h1-discussion

[latent moon]

if the wall trap itself is in the aura i think it gets negated tho

[dusky basalt]

also can aspect of beowolf still block while charginf up the rush

[jagged hamlet]

Yes

[dusky basalt]

ok its because the model has zagerus hold it to the side while charging up the dragon rush while every other shield points is forwards while charging

[formal orbit]

tbh, beowulf block is pretty unreliable

but the damage is nut

offensive is the best defensive anyway

[stone rune]

beo block is like double the amount

[latent moon]

It'll block the direction you block, but because he holds it at the side kinda it also blocks more on that side too

[dusky basalt]

"It'll block the direction you block" Ahh yes the floor here is made out of floor

[latent moon]

I mean you're asking if a shield can block lmao

[dusky basalt]

a better way or wording it is it will block pretty much the same as anyother shield

[upper wolf]

RI4 is faster I think

Wait was that what you meant by turning off

[latent moon]

No dash

You don't wanna take that much ri

And you gotta turn off DD/SD

So it's better to just manually change the mirror

[jagged hamlet]

Nuh uhhh. The floor is lava

[balmy dagger]

i downloaded this game today and i have no clue whats happening but i'm absolutely loving it

that being said, does anyone have any advice on where to go for a basic run down of what on earth is happening

[dusky basalt]

oh shi-

[latent moon]

It's actually magma lmao

The game devs changed all the dialogue and whatnot from lava to magma in early access because people brought it up lmao

[dusky basalt]

🤓

[latent moon]

Hey man the devs changed it for us we gotta show respect

[upper wolf]

I don't really get it ? Like, you understand more as you play the game, I don't see what a guide could bring

[upper wolf]

the devs are nerds

[balmy dagger]

is there any info i need beyond controls to enjoy it more than just "Pretty art, fun combat"?

[upper wolf]

I mean, you can go into theorycrafting and Easter eggs and all that, but that's something you do after 50 hours

[jagged hamlet]

You should probably keep to #h1-for-new-players unless you enjoy seeing spoilers 🙀

[upper wolf]

Also that yeah

[latent moon]

Ea players are nerds lmao

[dusky basalt]

if you give somone nectar for the first time you get a keepsake that gives you a passive buff and for certain characters after enough necter and a sidequest and some ambrosia you can summon them in battle and those characters are
Megaera
Thanatos
Skelly
Sisyphus
Dusa
Achilles

[grand lotus]

character sidequests are honestly what kept me playing the game when it got a bit boring

[balmy dagger]

this game deserves miles more attention

i sat on it for ages but this is incredible

[grand lotus]

real

[formal orbit]

Would chiron be good again if mod bring back charged volley?

Feel like it would be busted

[latent moon]

Wouldn't that make dealing damage with the special take even longer

What's the damage bonus on that

250% of base damage

i guess that is like 200 extra damage but also kinda depends how long it takes to charge lmao

still doesn't solve the issue of aoe but at least it can kill something lmao

[jagged hamlet]

If only it had had piercing by default. Alas

[stiff obsidian]

for lucifer do u rather take dashes or hyper delivery

[latent moon]

rd is almost always better than dashes on everything

the only exception is like ME builds and that's just rarity dependent at that point

you can also make a case for achilles i believe

[stiff obsidian]

i shouldve specified i meant for heat

well if im going to be specific at 40 heat

[formal orbit]

Kill thing faster is always better than dodge thing easier

[stone rune]

probably rd unless its like +3 vs common

cause dashes r really nice for dodging and luci is unsafe

even then tho prob rd

[latent moon]

oh yeah for heat i'd consider dashes more, gonna be rarity dependent at that point

[formal orbit]

At 40 luci, I probably take athena call for that, but luci damage is kinda meh compared to eris

Does eternal chamber work similar to delta chamber for iframe?

[stiff obsidian]

idts

triple bomb is probably better even if it does

[stone rune]

no

targ

[stiff obsidian]

does that mean if u shoot and dash at the same time u still get iframes

[formal orbit]

Nope

[stiff obsidian]

but its not a dash strike

its a dash

[stone rune]

no

you get no iframes

[stiff obsidian]

does dio call have more range than zeus?

[brisk trail]

i just found that administrative chamber privileges actually allows me to open a door

I just sorta forgot about where it is after the cutscene

and now I have to ask, who is redacted

[formal orbit]

||the titular character||

[brisk trail]

||hades?||

[latent moon]

yeah lol

talking to hypnos also confirms that

[formal orbit]

Yes

[latent moon]

or at least it's like super implied

[brisk trail]

another thing is uhhm, what happens if you show aspect of hades to hades

or will it trigger the usual spear dialogue

[latent moon]

i dont play hades spear so idr lmao

do it yourself and see what happens lmao

[brisk trail]

also, now I start remembering the days when meg was hard

now I sometimes pass her without taking any damage

[stone rune]

hmmmmmm

[formal orbit]

Something about the spear he used to use and about he has gigaros now

[brisk trail]

oh

[stiff obsidian]

i mean the distance from which it will hit the enemy btw, not the aoe

[brisk trail]

where is it in the code

[stone rune]

somewhere

[latent moon]

none of us here know anything about code lmao

[brisk trail]

I found the house of hades shade cause of death texts in the code

with like, roof collapse, organ rupture

[latent moon]

you're better off asking in the modding discord

[formal orbit]

You can actually use it behind the pillar at dad, zeus call doesn’t

[latent moon]

they probaby know where stuff are

[brisk trail]

they know everything from what I can sense

[brisk trail]

really?

i thought dio call wasn't that great

artemis call is really good for bossing

[latent moon]

dio call is one of the highest dps calls in the game

arty call is only good at full call

so only good at bosses

dio call is good everywhere

[brisk trail]

so what is the generally good call

[latent moon]

you can actually use it in normal rooms and boss rooms

dio and zeus

[stiff obsidian]

wow nice to know

[latent moon]

small calls are better than big calls

dio and zeus just have the most damage

and you can also do your normal attacks and whatnot while that's going on so you dont drop dps

[brisk trail]

I usually build with dem/aphro, dio, ares, and arte (and sometimes force a athena if I can get all of the previous in the pool in tart)

what is a good call

[formal orbit]

Dio call is like spear range or something, I use rail and it hit, you can tell by the glowing circle directly under enemies

[latent moon]

dio and zeus, like i said earlier

[brisk trail]

ok

[latent moon]

also if you have a 4 god pool leaving tart, you generally shouldn't force a 5th in unless you absolutely need that god for your core build

[brisk trail]

also, if I use pstatus, is dem better or aphro better

[latent moon]

and you got rnged into 4 gods

[stone rune]

don’t use pstatus

is the answer

[latent moon]

the better option is to not use pstatus
if you are using pstatus, that's just build dependent

[brisk trail]

I uhh, force dio

[latent moon]

generally speaking, aphro is better for pstatus

the secondary is build dependent

so it's like aphro + something

usually dio or dem

[brisk trail]

I thought it was like, dio+sth

[latent moon]

dio isn't that versatile

[brisk trail]

so like, dio + aphro

[latent moon]

i mean it's kinda eh

[stone rune]

like the actual real solution is to just use fam fav

[latent moon]

i mean frankly it generally doesnt matter

[brisk trail]

but dem and aph both just hamper the foe, while dio does damage

[stone rune]

removes this question entirely

[latent moon]

aphrodite has the largest % modifier in the game

[brisk trail]

should I try 5 god pool with famfav

[stone rune]

no

[latent moon]

when you use pstatus, the idea is like
big damage with aphrodite, pstatus for extra damage on top of that

[brisk trail]

just cram some useless boons into the build

[latent moon]

if you use dio, you want to use aphrodite because it's a bigger % anyways instead of dem

[brisk trail]

ohhhh

[stone rune]

pstatus is 15% more additive than fam fav for not applying on hits 1 or 2 and not being up for half the videogame

[latent moon]

also yeah pstatus is just not great most of the time

[stone rune]

ff is still 25%

[brisk trail]

so that's why I was dying, I didn't take into account the actual damage buffs

[stone rune]

doesn’t require status application

[brisk trail]

I only picked dem because the effect is better

rip

[stone rune]

works from start

works on first and second hit

[brisk trail]

I do zeus shield anyways so pstatus is almost always applied

[stone rune]

how so

[latent moon]

well i dont think taking dem vs aphro is the reason you're dying tbh
pstatus procing god isn't like essential

[brisk trail]

so what would be a good zeus shield build

[latent moon]

if your big thing is dio + some god for pstatus, then the supporting god isn't helpful except for pstatus

[stone rune]

zeus special

jolted

[latent moon]

dio is carring the damage for zeus shield generally

[stone rune]

double strike

etc etc

[brisk trail]

I poured 7 titan's blood into it

[latent moon]

that's fine lmao

zeus shield is good

you just gotta build it good

[brisk trail]

yeah, I heard it's the best aspect both bcs 64 heat and stuff as well as ranked highest in ease of use tierlists

[latent moon]

i mean zeus isn't that easy to use

kinda

it's like

[brisk trail]

can y'all point me to a easy way to build a good zeus shield

[latent moon]

you can get good results by half assing it

if you want to really push yourself with zeus shield, then it's insanely difficult

[brisk trail]

I uhh, throw the shield and hide in the corner

[latent moon]

yeah that's what i mean by half assing it lmao

it can work but the potential for zeus shield is super high

[latent moon]

jazz already mentioned it

thunder flourish, static discharge

[stone rune]

and it also sucks at speed

[latent moon]

any other zeus supporting boon

[stone rune]

it’s definitely not the best aspect in terms of overall

[brisk trail]

so like, aphro attack, zeus spec

[stone rune]

beo has no competition there

arty attack would be better

opens rod and pp and marked and stuff

[brisk trail]

so zeus on spec, and arte on attack

[stone rune]

yea

and jolted

and double strike

[latent moon]

attack doesnt really matter tbf

[stone rune]

everything from zeus

[latent moon]

it's just nice to have a good attack

[brisk trail]

ok

I thought aphro was best attack

[latent moon]

just dont take poseidon attack and you're fine

i mean it is

[brisk trail]

or is arte better

[latent moon]

but that's not the main dps of zeus shield

the atk is more utility/supplemental

like it's important, but i wouldnt stress about getting arty or aphro atk on it

if you get like epic athena attack then just take it

[brisk trail]

but arty is good for support fire

and hunters mark

and pp

[stone rune]

support fire is just ok

[brisk trail]

arte has great t2's so I've heard

and how about dash and cast

[stone rune]

don’t rlly need anything

[latent moon]

support fire eh
cast is eh, easier to apply boiling blood
dash is eh on zeus shield

[stone rune]

it’s not like u need to always have all your slots filled

[latent moon]

your build is quite literally just "zeus and more zeus"

more zeus tier 2s not zeus cores btw

[brisk trail]

just fill out the god pool for famfav and I'm good

[stone rune]

that happens naturally

don’t take bad gods for fam fav

[latent moon]

yeah it just happens most of the time you dont have to try to get gods

[brisk trail]

and arte on cast for that sweet sweet better seeking

I'm a mk player don't ask

[latent moon]

the only time you wont get 25% fam favs is if every time a different god shows up, it's up against zeus
and zeus is probably gonna be better

[stone rune]

we all are

[latent moon]

i mean sure but that doesnt matter lmao

[brisk trail]

I can't aim

[latent moon]

the cast isn't doing anything other than boiling blood

[stone rune]

all casts have seek

[brisk trail]

but arte adds better seek

[latent moon]

even if you can aim, any cast you pick up isn't that valuable here

[brisk trail]

right?

[stone rune]

yeah

[brisk trail]

so zeus shield really is just about special

[stone rune]

but it’s not that necessary

[latent moon]

like i said, the cast is literally for boiling blood

arty cast makes it easier to apply and that's it

but otherwise it'd serve the same function as base cast

[latent moon]

quite literally yes

only like 4 aspects care about what cast you take

because those aspects are cast based aspects

[brisk trail]

also, if I get famfav then I'll no longer need to force dio in tart, what would be a good keepsake sequence

[latent moon]

you should force zeus at the start

thunder flourish is the main part of your build

[brisk trail]

cuz rn I do dio-any god that I'm missing for a build-collar-tooth

[latent moon]

into asphodel take arty or aphro for the attack, athena if you want her dash, whatever

into elysium and styx, acorn is the best defensive keepsake

assuming you only struggle on bosses

if you're dying to like ely enemies and/or poison then other stuff can be better

[stone rune]

if u wanna see a good zeus build https://youtu.be/4YlfpY27MV0?si=40_M_WOHaF0bEEhq&t=1069

[brisk trail]

so zooz-if no attack then attack, otherwise athena-acorn-tooth

[latent moon]

acorn is better than tooth

[brisk trail]

really?

[latent moon]

yes

[stone rune]

yea

[latent moon]

tooth is 100 hp

[stone rune]

acorn is like

150 worth

[latent moon]

the lowest damaging thing in the dad fight is 20

[brisk trail]

but uhh, I didn't build acorn yet

[latent moon]

well you have to level it up at some point

might as well start now

[brisk trail]

true

[latent moon]

also negating 3 hits with acorn can still give more value than tooth

[brisk trail]

so start by forcing zeus then put acorn on to build it

[latent moon]

dad swings for 40 each, if you eat 3 swings then that's already 120

[latent moon]

well acorn into elysium and styx

aspho shouldnt be a problem generally

[brisk trail]

i do that just to build acorn

[latent moon]

in aspho you can still develop your build

oh if you want sure

oh i forgot you can build into smoldering air lmao

[brisk trail]

in styx im prolly still gonna use tooth bcs a half-done acorn is probably worse, and you can't really level up much in styx

or does every tiny encounter count as an encounter

[latent moon]

acorn refershes each biome

acorn is only for boss fights

[brisk trail]

is styx good for leveling keepsakes

[latent moon]

yes

each room counts as an encounter for it

[brisk trail]

really

dang

[latent moon]

so just take it with you for styx

yeah

[brisk trail]

so how many rooms for styx

[latent moon]

apparently the strat for leveling up keepsakes is to take every styx tunnel

uh

[brisk trail]

like, for example 2-3 tunnels

[latent moon]

i think like minimum is 4

4 encounters minimum in each tunnel

[brisk trail]

what is the usual chamber count for 2 or 3 tunnels

[latent moon]

8-11 i guess

something along those lines

[brisk trail]

so still not as good as the other ones for leveling

[latent moon]

there's a range for how long each tunnel can be

[latent moon]

i mean it's better

[brisk trail]

I'll still use tooth just to not die to dad

[latent moon]

if you take every tunnel it's objectively better

3 tunnels could be better

[brisk trail]

I mean, sure

[latent moon]

tartarus is the lognest biome iirc, 13 encounters maximum

styx is guaranteed like 12 on 3 sack

[brisk trail]

so I really should be doing leveling there

[latent moon]

there being styx or tartarus

because styx is just better

[brisk trail]

ok

[stiff obsidian]

what things lose status when they teleport?

does the bp perk make them do that

[latent moon]

sneak and dad lose status when they teleport

idk about bp perks tho

[stiff obsidian]

those drakon heads too

?

[latent moon]

no clue on those

i think they keep the status

ik the thwomps do since they can die in the air

idk if the drakons follow that rule because they technically dont teleport, they dig underground?

idek about that last point tho lmao

[stiff obsidian]

funky game

[tepid light]

iirc drakons keep status

[stiff obsidian]

thats good

[heady monolith]

Are we sure tartarus is longer than asphodel?

Tartarus takes 2-3mins tops

Asphodel takes a while

Like 5

[strong steppe]

I suppose it means there are more rooms in tartarus

[fading rune]

how do i proggres relation
i went to aphrodite page and the next heart has a lock on it and i cant give her nectar in game

[wary iron]

You need a specific line or complete a certain task (I think it was the latter in aphrodites case)

[mint coral]

Yeah her task is lso one of the longest

Need to max Than, Meg and Dusa

[wary iron]

Meg was talking? Dusa doing some constructor stuff I think, and than was beating him with a more than 20 lead right?

[mint coral]

Ngl I have no idea for meg and Than

Is probably just talking tho yeah

[latent moon]

Chamber wise Tartarus is longer

Tartarus is 1-14, asphodel is 17-24

[heady monolith]

Weird, i guess the smaller rooms of tart make it go by faster

I have to run around looking for the last mob before the next wave can spawn in asphodel

[upper wolf]

Oh yeah, asphodel hide and seek sucks

[noble quarry]

Cant seem to win with sword ans shield what aspect do you reccomend

[wary iron]

Zeus

[noble quarry]

And sword?

[wary iron]

All 3 are equally good ig, go with Poseidon if you want a cast build, I think me build is kinda good for nemesis, and just whatever on Arthur, hard to die with that, probably just aphro attack or smth

[noble quarry]

Look into that more then

Also this in exchance shop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069831327744008233/1165334221066354688/20231021_185723.jpg?ex=65467911&is=65340411&hm=4ff60c27be00d629c78565cd6aba234b1fe5085c638884a6d88b9a83c48f1597&

[wary iron]

It depends on what you need

[noble quarry]

Have sword and shield aspects on 1 so was thinking of ambrosia for titan blood but i only used that in meg so need more

Diamond i need cosmetics but inly upgrade i can get from thhose i still have left is gateway erebus

[wary iron]

Erebus gate can be useful you should try to buy that, in the beginning you don’t need that much ambrosia, ig it would be enough if you keep 2

[noble quarry]

I bought

[latent moon]

zeus for shield, otherwise hidden if you have it
nemesis for sword

[noble quarry]

Oh nemesis not poseidin

[latent moon]

nemesis is considered better than poseidon

but poseidon can be easier to play

[drifting panther]

Every time I do latte art it looks like the symbol for the Demeter boon and now I can’t not see it.

[noble quarry]

really debating what to put blood in

[latent moon]

Just do nemesis

It's just stronger

[upper wolf]

Remember to always dash strike though

Never standing strike

(honestly sword standing strike is my main gripe with the game. At least chaos shield only makes one aspect annoying, not three)

[drowsy linden]

chaos shield isnt annoying, its a shield(therefore its immediately decent)

[upper wolf]

It's annoying to be dicentivized from using the aspect's "strength"

If chaos and zag shield play the same, it's one less aspect to play the game with

But overall having bad options like shield/bow special or sword standing strike is a bit annoying. It means less diversity in gameplay.

Bad options are good if they have a niche. Shield special kinda does at least.

[noble quarry]

any hammer advice?

[latent moon]

the only good sword hammer is double edge

just special -> 2x dash strikes

[upper wolf]

Yeah, double edge is what you want

Avoid flurry slash and that one who makes you lunge on special

Breaching wave is pretty alright too. But not important at all

Damn I want to play the game now

But I don't have my PC

Woe

[noble quarry]

anybody a good build for it can seem to get a clear with it

[latent moon]

aphrodite/artemis attack, then opposite god on the special, and try to get heart rend

you can also start artemis attack, go for athena or aphrodite, whichever you see first, and go for their respective duo

deadly reversal works a lot better with divine dash, but it's pretty doable without it still

i prefer heart rend but it's personal preference

[drowsy linden]

me seemed to work pretty well for me

[latent moon]

i mean that also works

but is a pain in the ass to actually get most of the time

[brisk trail]

what pacts do I use for 3 heat, or 4 heat

or even higher

is there a video pointing which pacts to go for first

[latent moon]

There's a heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

It takes em3 too early for casual running imo so you can just replace that with something else

As long as it's not jury summons, calisthenics program, damage control, routine inspection, or approval process

[drowsy linden]

em3 i find to be easier most of the time, due to the lack of theseus

though the shockwave can take a bit to learn

[noble quarry]

Did actually just try managed to beat him

Now i have 1 run with every weapon

Got a lv5 bow and gu winder if i should use blood for upgrading othercwealons or use it to unlock legendar ones

[stone rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779451865399368/1165476173845889064/perfect.mp4?ex=6546fd45&is=65348845&hm=f688fff04758b01a93c338b9ded580a516036df562892aae44a39680ddb83de1&

[grand lotus]

whats with the pausing

[stone rune]

habit

[signal aspen]

how do you pause that fast on kbm

too much hand movement

[stone rune]

65%

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/1162263438026879026/IMG_1922.jpg?ex=654487ad&is=653212ad&hm=ebbd464081e06b9eb176020108243c3f1a97269c1a9c6f52e7f062e26abd382a&

[jagged hamlet]

What's that crazy polygonal thing on the side?

[stone rune]

ghost cube

[jagged hamlet]

Thanks!

[latent moon]

Dear god it's my c17 vod review

[stone rune]

the legendary 20 minute chamber review

[latent moon]

Lmfao

I did so bad

[stone rune]

it was certainly a chamber

[upper wolf]

That's s cool setup

[stiff obsidian]

chaos rarity boons are the best boons in the game cant change my mind

[stone rune]

blown kiss:

[stiff obsidian]

close 2nd

[upper wolf]

That reminds me I should ask the modding discord for a mod that increases rarity on Hermes boons. Y'know, the only boons where rarity actually matters. Well that and curse of agony I guess

[stone rune]

download hypermodfed and configure it to only do that

rarity matters on a lot of stuff tho

[formal orbit]

rare crop

[stiff obsidian]

how instant is double strike?

if it is instant wouldnt it hit the internal cooldown

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1165588560959766608/image.png?ex=654765f0&is=6534f0f0&hm=fd51c4367a3336ca976bcd04247fe7fa0b1ca20159ce1ffe77f4a70cbe2977fb&

patty at home

[tepid light]

cleared with gilgamesh again

fortunately didn't take fifty billion tries like last time

[upper wolf]

Oh, thanks so much ! I'll do it... Once I get my computer back -_-

[upper wolf]

Bruh I can't with reddit

Jazz getting clowned on for absolutely no reason everytime

I think what kills me is how confident the redditors are about their knowledge of the game even when they don't know anything about speedrunning

[lunar mulch]

What makes a game good for speed running

[wary iron]

Being able to finish it quickly

[upper wolf]

Being fun

Which does usually mean it doesn't take 20hours straight to finish

But there are madmen out there

[lunar mulch]

When I study I speedrun that bish

It takes more than 20h

Thinking about it now, I even get a certificate for it

Game of life huh...
Good graphics, bad ai

[formal orbit]

life speendrunner any % record is probably under 1 month

[lunar mulch]

Anyways, I asked cos hades is rly good and opened my eyes to what speed running should look like.

[formal orbit]

dev forget to balance it

[lunar mulch]

Some people are just born different ig

[formal orbit]

there is a speedrunning discord pin in self-promotion

[stiff obsidian]

theres some tech which allows you to insta complete

[formal orbit]

you can start there

[lunar mulch]

Nowdays, i only play games with my sibling when I come home from college.

So I'm looking for something challenging while being local coop

[formal orbit]

#self-promotion message

[heady monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897428059966279700/1165674505667088486/image.png?ex=6547b5fb&is=653540fb&hm=e076b5ff60046cf43486172536ec167e462aec3a1052ddb0b1e1897ec26e8e68&

what was i thinking gong for this while using frost blade...

lost all of my death defiances against meg

[stone rune]

it’s 40 health

[heady monolith]

yeah leaving me with 40 health left

this run has all sorts of bad rng my boons are dio ares asphodel and i only saw asphodel once what even am i supposed to use for normal atk/special

[upper wolf]

Aphro on special

Kinda whatever on normal, I personally like Dem and Athena but it really doesn't matter much

Zeus is cool to open smoldering air, but cast and call are better options

Mayyybe Dio attack can be cool for low tolerance? But yeah it's mostly whatever. And another where call is much better

[heady monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897428059966279700/1165680554428084394/image.png?ex=6547bb9d&is=6535469d&hm=23f25420b637f816a852db8afd9480a49017327578e2b9ae20353783a9138166& just the man i needed to see

[upper wolf]

We do Stan Pat

[main talon]

got back into hades recently and finally got rid of the guan yu reach the surface prophecy

[upper wolf]

Congrats !

[stiff obsidian]

who was the person who said lernie doesnt do the same move twice in a row

because my lernie just headslammed 18 times in a row

[wary iron]

Someone said that two years ago, you don’t mean that do you?

[stiff obsidian]

probably not lol

does chaos attack affect bullrush/cshot?

buff not curse

[wary iron]

If other boons do, chaos probably does aswell

[latent moon]

yes

it procs twice lol

-4 hp for putting the shield down to block, another -4 for using bullrush/cshot

[fading rune]

which is better aspect of chaos or aspect of zeus for shield

[mint coral]

Zeus

[stone rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1028112977100017666/1165738696432177262/IMG_1956.png?ex=6547f1c3&is=65357cc3&hm=19a9157dad8ab9e1eab083b3d66af4694fdcc662c799631e3bb12dcb419822ce&

[latent moon]

Rta moment

[upper wolf]

Biggest brain

[brisk trail]

Hey guys !
Is the xbox series s and x versions for hades the same ?

I looked at comparaisons and it looks identical

[upper wolf]

I don't see what differences they could have tbh

But honestly I have no idea if they're the same or not

Didn't even know Hades is on Xbox

I stopped at PC, with the thought that it's on switch maybe sometimes crossing my mind

[noble quarry]

what you think is better eris or lucifer

[upper wolf]

Eris

[stone rune]

eris is better at nearly everything

except like boss splits

[noble quarry]

thanks im thinking of the boons i want to use hades alway gives me problems

[stone rune]

on eris/luci it’s always

zeus attack

artemis/aphro special

tidal/divine dash

on luci you want triple bomb

on eris rocket > cluster > triple > delta/targeting

[noble quarry]

yeah that build is waht i thought im between tidal and divine mostly for that likely apho on special for survialbility

what im not sure about is if there are any good dual boons i want or if i wanna work and get a legendary one

[stiff obsidian]

splitting bolt from zeus is nice and smouldering air duo doesnt hurt

@stone rune can you link one of your beo runs

[stone rune]

ok

https://youtu.be/7dnWrZ4QfFM?si=THHCRi0ACCRELsQA

this one was from yesterday

[stiff obsidian]

524

nice

[stone rune]

yeah it was cool

my first decent time in ages

[noble quarry]

so how about the dual and legandry boons for eris

[stiff obsidian]

.

[upper wolf]

Honestly you can do well without them. Yes splitting bolt and smoldering air are great, but in the end you are already having a great build even with just the cores

[noble quarry]

thanks

[upper wolf]

Eris is not a very restrictive weapon buildwise. Well, there are definitely better options, but as long as you have Zeus on attack, a damage special and either tidal dash or divine dash you're good

If anything is important, it's more the hammers

[latent moon]

and static discharge

[noble quarry]

i know you want the multiple bomb special ones but what else

[upper wolf]

Rockets

Rockets is the best hammer

By a fair margin

Most special hammers are great and most attack hammers are whatever

[stiff obsidian]

personally if i had to choose between delta chamber and rocket i will choose delta

not just for the safety but its very comfortable to use

the clickclickclick when ur empty is super annoying

[upper wolf]

That's totally fair

[noble quarry]

thanks remember that

[upper wolf]

I think I still like rocket more, but I can perfectly understand why delta chamber is preferred

[stone rune]

i'd take rocket

if you want damage

the thing is delta doesnt really increase damage

[noble quarry]

i have a bit of a off topic question too

[stone rune]

it only increases safety

[upper wolf]

I mean, safety can be made into damage

[stone rune]

time ur reloads better 🗿

[stiff obsidian]

[noble quarry]

im a bit low on ambrosia and am wondering if the olympian gods need them

[upper wolf]

One per god

[noble quarry]

hmmm

[stone rune]

well

one per most gods

[upper wolf]

Oh yeah

[stiff obsidian]

apparently lucifer doesnt auto reload when u dash unlike the other rails

[stone rune]

one for all the olympians yeah

[upper wolf]

Hermes is two, right?

[stone rune]

idk

[mint coral]

yeah hermes is 2 ambro

[stone rune]

but i know some people COUGH COUGH DUSA COUGH COUGH take more

[upper wolf]

Delta chamber Lucifer 🧠

[stone rune]

u wanna be reloading anyways

while u special

[noble quarry]

i did max megs companion already and working on her quest just used first on thanatos and got his companion

and i heard our boulder guy has a pretty usefull one too

[upper wolf]

False side do be special to us, that's right

[noble quarry]

but only have 6 ambrosia left

[upper wolf]

Meg is usually the best one

Bouldy is nice if you're struggling

But really a clever meg will just help you more

[noble quarry]

heard its handy too for buying stuff in last shop

and healing

[upper wolf]

While I agree that Dusa is an absolute goddess queen of slay, she is technically not a god, nor an Olympian. shes too pure for Olympus. Don't mind the stone statues.

[upper wolf]

Yeah, but still you shouldn't really need it. Hoarding money and avoiding damage by making enemies dead is usually more consistent

And also

Maxing two companions cost a ton of ambrosia

So if you already have a good batty I wouldn't dump more into bouldy until you're swimming in the thing

But you do you ofc

[noble quarry]

fair

also are any of them usefull agains final figth ||hades||

[mint coral]

no need to spoiler

also meg is still the best one

but for anyone that works for hades you need permission from dad himself first

so bouldy/skelly can be used before that

[stiff obsidian]

where can i find a hera speedrun video

[latent moon]

on speedrun.com lol

[stiff obsidian]

that site sucks cant see anything

[latent moon]

can't you filter for hera

[stiff obsidian]

i think ill just googl

[latent moon]

croven works i suppose

[noble quarry]

I heard i think im spending ambrosia fully on meg rhen after that ficus on the gods

[mint coral]

still should get at least one of the companions I mentioned btw

pretty sure is needed for dad to give permission

[upper wolf]

Fun fact: skelly is unusable only on a single fight in the whole game. ||It's against Charon.||

Arg, I wish I had my puter to keep fan designing Hades cards for LoR

I like my concept for Charon

[stiff obsidian]

i want to pom hermes

atleast hypersprint rarity 100/200/300% boostge instead of 0.5/0.6/0.7

[upper wolf]

I feel like 300% hypersprint would just send you to hell on a regular nasis

At least you'd finally be able to find wherever the heck asphodel enemies went to

[plain skiff]

Shook

Just built a rn to defeat Hades

and he just lets me pass

O.O

WooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooW

[upper wolf]

I love how the reaction to the single hades bypass are either "nooooo I had such a good build I wanted to kick his butt" or "water and light I am blessed I had literally 1 health, no death defiance, no boons and three chaos curses (don't ask) and he let me win for free !"

[plain skiff]

Mate i had 5 lives and full health with fists fully locked and loaded with Dio/Zues/Athena build.....it was a sure win

guess which Weopon is the only one still waiting for a complete run though

[latent moon]

spear

spear stinky

[plain skiff]

nah i found zag spear to be pretty good, but i loathe the bow, which is whats left to complete the prophecy for aspects

[chilly jasper]

how do i make chaos shield silly

also do boons apply to the extra shields you throw

[tepid light]

yes

the most success i've had with chaos shield is getting a stackable effect special and shotgunning enemies with it

[chilly jasper]

so dio on special

[tepid light]

or demeter

zeus also works

[chilly jasper]

demeter sounds sillier than dio

what are best hammers? does explosive return trigger 5 times?

[tepid light]

no, unless i'm grievously misremembering

[stone rune]

get charged shot and never use the special

[chilly jasper]

but its so silly

[tepid light]

i'm pretty sure the point here is to actually use the chaos shield gimmick, jazz

[stiff obsidian]

It's made me lose

Using the special

[chilly jasper]

isnt chaos shield the worst weapon

[stone rune]

in terms of aspect bonus yes

the aspect bonus is quite literally worthless

[chilly jasper]

but its good cause shield good

[stone rune]

there are worse things but their bonuses still do something

[chilly jasper]

isnt hidden spear bad

[tepid light]

oh boy here we go

[chilly jasper]

is it bad, or am i bad

[tepid light]

guan yu is divisive, for lack of a better word

[stone rune]

not really

you’re the only one who thinks so

it’s generally agreed to be good

[chilly jasper]

idk what that funy word means

[stone rune]

very safe

and decent damage

[chilly jasper]

the one time i used it it felt really bad

is gilgamesh bad

it seems bad

[stone rune]

yes

[tepid light]

ah yes because if i disagree with you i'm the only one who thinks so

[stone rune]

gilga is the worst aspect

[chilly jasper]

worse then chaos?

[stone rune]

there is nobody else i know other than redditors who thinks gy is bad

[stone rune]

chaos isn’t the worst aspect in any respect

[chilly jasper]

i love aspect of demeter fist. funy big damage

[stone rune]

it’s pretty bad but it’s still a shield

[tepid light]

i've seen plenty of people here dislike guan yu as i do

[jagged hamlet]

Guan Yu's good though, esp with Charged Skewer. Just never use the spin

[chilly jasper]

rama is silly too

[tepid light]

we've done the whole 'is guan yu safe' argument before so i'll just leave that aside

[chilly jasper]

is Hades spear good? it seems cool

[jagged hamlet]

Guan Yu least melee of the melee weapons

[stone rune]

cherry just sub6 gilga

5;41

24/24

[jagged hamlet]

(aside from Poseidon, Archilles)

[stone rune]

we are done

[stiff obsidian]

Now play heat

[tepid light]

we must have very different achilles playstyles

[jagged hamlet]

Welp! Time to drag out Hades 2!

Oh, I normally play Archilles as a melee weapon, but for many, they use it as a cast weapon

[chilly jasper]

how do you make Lucifer good

and hestia

[jagged hamlet]

Triple Bomb for Lucifer. Hestia just needs Aphrodite or Artemis+Chaos on attack. If you can get Cluster Bomb + Rocket Bomb on Hestia, that's also really, really good

[chilly jasper]

cool

[chilly jasper]

isnt cluster rocket just always really good

[jagged hamlet]

Yesh

[stone rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1165867502010650654/Screen_Shot_2023-10-23_at_12.20.50_AM.png?ex=654869b9&is=6535f4b9&hm=7ae13c033767d9d1818de83f1f5f38049097655decf9c8d69ddfa0934ebf7264&

[tepid light]

unless you're running eris

[chilly jasper]

how do i make the worst build possble

[stone rune]

and then it’s better

[tepid light]

you'd have to chase after the rocket and be there when it detonates, no?

[chilly jasper]

actually no, how do i make the silliest build

[stone rune]

dawg

have you never played eris clockets before

[stiff obsidian]

Sheesh

[tepid light]

if i'm wrong, then feel free to correct me

no need to be condescending

[stone rune]

it is literally a non issue

just be close by

[stiff obsidian]

All sub530 whwn

[jagged hamlet]

Eris and clockets are like 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[chilly jasper]

what are best duo dio boons

[tepid light]

if i'm mistaken in my impression then by all means correct me and give me the right info

i don't need to be treated like an idiot to learn

[stone rune]

you are mistaken in thinking that it is an issue to proc the eris buff with clockets

[tepid light]

you could have just said that from the beginning instead of being derisive

[jagged hamlet]

jazz is a tortured speedrun artist

[stone rune]

i had assumed you were being facetious

[tepid light]

well i wasn't, so

[latent moon]

define silly lmao

[chilly jasper]

whenever you attack you giggle cause its silly

[latent moon]

is it because it's bad or because it does big damage and it's funny

[chilly jasper]

either

or just like stupid

like ramp up damage on lucifer

its silly

[stiff obsidian]

i always giggle when i play

[chilly jasper]

i play lucifer, i get hammer, i take ramp up damage, i giggle, i lose

Projectile special hammer on aspect of demetet is really silly

[latent moon]

could do trippy flare beo

it either does mediocre/okayish damage or a lot of damage depending on rng lmao

[tepid light]

or super soaker

super soaker is quite silly

[latent moon]

true

[chilly jasper]

sound silly

[chilly jasper]

what that

[tepid light]

any rail with poseidon attack

[chilly jasper]

lmfao

i like

[tepid light]

actually y'know what i'm gonna do it right now as well

[latent moon]

i wouldn't say "any rail"

isn't it really just luci

maybe like flurry fire rail i guess but eh

super soaker is kinda just only luci

[tepid light]

well i'm using lucifer anyway so

the vfx on poseidon attack with lucifer are excellent

[stiff obsidian]

justnposeidon or u need seastorm too??

[jagged hamlet]

You super want Sea Storm

[latent moon]

no sea storm means no dps lmao

[tepid light]

so far so good

lvl 3 purple poseidon attack with lvl 2 purple razor shoals

and triple bomb

[latent moon]

not bad yeah

[tepid light]

just cleared tartarus

[latent moon]

it kinda becomes a problem in ely tbf

it's fine for like first two biomes

and then the enemies get too chunky

[tepid light]

zeus special acquired
this is especially funny in asphodel where you can just push enemies into the lava

sea storm acquired

[latent moon]

i mean yeah

but also ely

great shields probably shaft you

that's assuming you get breaking wave

wall slam damage still exists without it but it's not like

that signficiant i dont think

yeah ik but like is it really "yeah this'll carry my damage" sort of damage

[stone rune]

it scales with biome

it still sucks

luci main source of damage is special

[stiff obsidian]

how do you reset without getting the entire meg animation first

only after the circle

fair

it sure as hell isnt defense

[tepid light]

aaaand i got potted

build's fun, though

[stone rune]

hold the buttons into a room

or reset when you can’t summon

[stiff obsidian]

how much is hammer in cf2 shop

360 nvm

[latent moon]

80% kinda a lot

[stiff obsidian]

true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1165712955757834280/image.png?ex=6547d9ca&is=653564ca&hm=926c7ae30a3c04cb1314607d1479fdcd06f0d67ac6169aa181691d3e69824a6d&

[latent moon]

it do be like that

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1165911043277598820/image.png?ex=65489246&is=65361d46&hm=4722e32b1df89286b8299f051ad03509a98904700ddc0828c715ced70356f426&

proud or concerned

idk

[void vigil]

I have over 600 it’s ok
Just take comfort in the fact that some people in and out of this server have at least triple that time

[stiff obsidian]

hitting 80 hours per week lol

wow

ive only been playing

for 3 months

3 months 15 days now

[void vigil]

[noble quarry]

And 1000 in damn

[void vigil]

I accumulated that 600 hr playtime since dec. 2018 so yours is more impressive (… or concerning)

[noble quarry]

Likely the second

Msay what are you guys thoughts on the hidden aspects

?

[open hull]

a true hades enjoyer

[tepid light]

Are you asking in terms of objective strength, or personal preference?

[stiff obsidian]

hades truly a. game of all time

[formal orbit]

Probably most of the time is afk

[stiff obsidian]

true

[open hull]

"socialising has always come fast to you, but you have been faster"

[stiff obsidian]

ong

[tepid light]

It defintely had a development budget, as well as a development cycle

[short glen]

They're pretty cool

[autumn rose]

thats a very broad question

[latent moon]

Half of them are pretty eh the other half are pretty strong

[noble quarry]

i only have looked at them with skelly but i dont think im the biggest fan of arthur

and feel guan lu is pretty risky

luficer seems instressting though

[latent moon]

Gaun Yu is only good with charged skewer, which also makes it safe to play while giving it insane damage

[noble quarry]

it does lower your health though

[latent moon]

I mean yeah but charged skewer guan Yu is hella safe

It can be used for hitless runs

[noble quarry]

intressting

[stiff obsidian]

i mean you better play hitless

or u dying

[open hull]

butterfly with guan yu is the only thing i will use with it

its like theyre made for each other

[noble quarry]

dont you run a god boon one first before that?

[tepid light]

I just want a real aspect of guan yu that lets you run in and wreck faces like guan yu himself did

[open hull]

huh

[autumn rose]

god keepsake

[noble quarry]

yes

[open hull]

nah tartarus is the easiest to no hit with the most chambers

and if you get lucky enough god keepsakes dont matter

[latent moon]

"just get lucky" lmao

[open hull]

and you can just reset until a god you want comes on

[open hull]

ecxactly

[latent moon]

Resetting for a starting god or getting a god you want in Tartarus isn't fun

[noble quarry]

thinking if i should put blood in i have 9 left
got eris and cirron on level 5 wonder what i should dumb the rest in

[formal orbit]

just get good and start purse like retrash lmao

[latent moon]

True

That's more useful than butterfly tbh

[tepid light]

nice to know i'm not the only one who starts purse

[formal orbit]

if you want a chill run, purse is the way

meta slave is fun and all but can get pretty tiring

[tepid light]

i usually go purse in tartarus, god keepsakes in asphodel and elysium, and something that'll help me against dad in styx

[open hull]

zeus aspect is safe

[open hull]

acorn

[tepid light]

that's a frequent choice, yes

[short glen]

Use acorn in tart trust me

[noble quarry]

then in order i get zeus to 5>spear5?(not sure what spear aspect i want>demerter5>nemesis5

[open hull]

what

[noble quarry]

order of aspects i will level to 5 first

[open hull]

zeus imo is great for farming wins

and is good at high heat

[noble quarry]

hench why its first

[open hull]

yeah

[noble quarry]

though how is beowulf compared to it?

[open hull]

achillies is the best spear aspect

[open hull]

i dont have much beo experience

[formal orbit]

beowulf is the best for speed and very decent for heat

up to about 55, after it, it's a slog

[short glen]

Beowulf is generally considered the best weapon in the game

[stiff obsidian]

not really

[noble quarry]

more of a curiousity seing hidden ones are expensive so likely start those only after i have level 5 on 1 aspect of every weapon first

[formal orbit]

the price for all aspect is roughly the same

except zag aspect

5/15/16/15 to fully upgrade

[noble quarry]

oh thoughts hidden kept wanting 1 more then the others for every level ok

thats better then

[formal orbit]

beo and zeus is playable at lv1

stuff like chiron is unplayable at low level

[short glen]

Level one guan yu GOAT

[noble quarry]

have that one on level 5 kinda intressted in the hidden one of bow too seems intressting

[tepid light]

Was about to say

If you wanna talk about unplayable low level aspects

Guan yu

[formal orbit]

the hidden bow is bonker

but kinda hard to use effectively

[short glen]

I love -70% max hp

[noble quarry]

are any of the hidden easy and strong then

[tepid light]

inb4 jazz "lvl 1 guan yu is good just don't get hit"

[formal orbit]

I'm pretty sure it's midnight rn at american

[tepid light]

"reduced hp doesn't mean anything"

[formal orbit]

probably not gonna see jazz now

[formal orbit]

zeus is easy enough but the skill ceiling is huge

you can play with half a brain at low heat but to really push it, zeus is hard

[noble quarry]

zeus is not a hidden aspect though

[stiff obsidian]

em4 is hard

[tepid light]

Or just go demeter zeus and slow the entire room to a crawl
this is a joke

[tepid light]

real gamers go em4

[formal orbit]

oh i misread it, I think beo is easy enough

[stiff obsidian]

im not a real gamer i guess

too hard

[tepid light]

but you can be one

[stiff obsidian]

id rather win

[tepid light]

tbh i can't see myself ever turning off em4

[open hull]

i dont like chill at all

[formal orbit]

nah, HL5 FO2 CP1 EM4 is not easy

espcially with SD

no patty is just pain

FO1 EM4 is doable

[stiff obsidian]

i got devine protection crossed out 3 times in a row lmaoo

[tepid light]

i fee like stubborn defiance is the real crippler there

[stiff obsidian]

had to take holy shield

[tepid light]

it's what i do, after all

but forced overtime 2 is

brutal

[noble quarry]

so how storng is lucifer?

[stiff obsidian]

pretty neat

[noble quarry]

it looked intressting form what i saw

[tepid light]

lucifer requires some getting used to but is quite strong

[formal orbit]

lucifer is one of the harder one tbh

and you need triple bomb to actually do damage

[noble quarry]

so rng based

[formal orbit]

you can do without it, but it's kinda a slog

most of lucifer come from the special explosion

[tepid light]

without triple bomb, detonating hellfires is a massive pain

[noble quarry]

fair

[formal orbit]

targeting system is a good cope pick

[tepid light]

targeting system on lucifer is entertaining

if not very good

[formal orbit]

because its exclusive hammer are kinda bad

[tepid light]

if only hazard bomb worked with lucifer

single big hellfire that just nukes the entire room when it detonates

[noble quarry]

so you said half of the hidden aspects are good
of course beowulf is 1 of those but what are the ohters?

[formal orbit]

beowulf, rama and lucifer are good

arthur is well... arthur

[tepid light]

arthur is hilarious and satisfying but falls off at higher heat

[formal orbit]

gilga is kinda fun but reduce dash range plus clunky attack make it bad

[tepid light]

honestly the worst thing about gilgamesh for me is the fact that the maim makes enemies do more damage

[formal orbit]

guan yu take practice, it can be good

[tepid light]

it doesn't make sense and it's very unpleasant

[stiff obsidian]

time to do all fists at 40 heat

[noble quarry]

Thanks lined up with what i expected

[stiff obsidian]

ME simulator

[tepid light]

Guan yu can potentially be very strong but dang is it unforgiving

[stiff obsidian]

very punishing yes

[tepid light]

And it needs to be played very differently from other spears

[noble quarry]

Back on zeus shield what do you like more on special zeus or our drunk boy

[formal orbit]

zeus^2 is a think

all you need is zeus

[tepid light]

neither, artemis special for crit buzz saw
/jk

zeus is better

[formal orbit]

crit buzzsaw cleared 63 heat

the dude just doesn't want to turn on hell mode lmao

[stiff obsidian]

64 essentially

[tepid light]

you can get away with a lot of builds on zeus tbh

[formal orbit]

https://youtu.be/O60matizhFU?si=BuDAd1LKfMrWUuH2

[noble quarry]

Sounds cool but yeah likely worse am considering her or aphro on attack though

[tepid light]

good stuff

[formal orbit]

he've just cleared with ares special yesterday

[noble quarry]

Hades was doomed

[formal orbit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779476888354816/1165530512421560340/HGAGI4PR6_TN6NF0ND9.jpg?ex=65472fe0&is=6534bae0&hm=700db83a70281c5b5ad6f9e82e6dbcba530571573ca0ef4b7222b2ccd8d2f884&=&width=1177&height=662

[open hull]

hes good

sometimes

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1165930193664344114/image.png?ex=6548a41c&is=65362f1c&hm=c8f50306b7e38df51553a3e979bbbd72c11646dfe78d5a70f29b1c3ef2db1e36&

pom nectar or abrisia for red

[formal orbit]

pom is reasonable but I would gamble lmao :V

[stiff obsidian]

nectar it is

[formal orbit]

the hermes gamble, noice

[noble quarry]

what do you guys normally pick from her?

[stiff obsidian]

depends on what im using

like for eris you usually have a ton of boons which cry for poms so you take poms

[formal orbit]

ambrosia is almost never worth it unless you doing really high heat

nectar for better hermes is always nice

[stiff obsidian]

if you have just 2 boons and need higher dmage you can take abrisia for heroic

[noble quarry]

boulder boy i often get gold though when i started darkness too
3rd level i either get my deffiance back if i spend any or get the damage buff

second one im most of the time not sure

[formal orbit]

patty is either game changer or do nothing lmao

[stiff obsidian]

do you want dashes or hyperdelivery for hermes

+3

[formal orbit]

if epic, I would settle dash

ME love dashes

[stiff obsidian]

i keep dashing out

*of bounds

[formal orbit]

you gambled?

[stiff obsidian]

wat

[formal orbit]

I thought you gambled for hyper rd

[stiff obsidian]

dash safety tho

[noble quarry]

what do you guys end up using authority or persuasion

[stiff obsidian]

persuasion

[noble quarry]

same

also most important question do you pet cerberus everytime before you head out

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[heady monolith]

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Guys what exactly does the skull mean

That picking poseidon is gonna be the harder encounter?

[blazing kestrel]

it just mean that Gods trial will have elite monsters.

[heady monolith]

So both?

[blazing kestrel]

those with shield on.

[heady monolith]

It looks like it's going towards poseidon

Right below it

[blazing kestrel]

its both.

[heady monolith]

Weird placement then

[stiff obsidian]

not really its always to the bottom corner of the circle

if you get what i mean

[noble quarry]

what system to you think the game is best on anyway pc, switch, ps4

[wary iron]

Probably pc bc of mods

[noble quarry]

i like switch for portability even if it doesnt look as good but yeah pc close second for me

(also cross save between those is nice bonus for that)

[pliant perch]

Is hades platinum harder than dead cells

[noble quarry]

looking at them hades doesnt seem to hard think hardest would be ||skelly prizes|| and the ||true ending|| rest likely take time but not too hard

[pliant perch]

kk

[noble quarry]

On pc keyboard or controller

[sour fog]

up to you really

[last veldt]

Luckily getting Unseen One isn't a trophy.

[noble quarry]

Thats ||boat guy secret boss right||

[last veldt]

No, that's spending 300k+ darkness at the resources manager.

End game bragging rights.

[noble quarry]

oh i unlocked him yesterday

not sure if i wanna spend though havent maxed everything in mirror and its 1000 darkness

[raw charm]

Why do my posts on reddit keep getting taken down?

Theres nothing wrong with them

I just asked how to unlock "Malphon" / Twin Fists of Malphon

[noble quarry]

maybe its a frequent asked question then it get pulled down

also if its in faq

[raw charm]

It says unlock first four weapons

I already did

And the weapon still isnt showing up for me

[noble quarry]

so you used keys on them all

also how far did you make it in the game?

[raw charm]

Eryssylium

The 3rd biome

[mint coral]

After unlocking the 4th weapon did you do another run

[last veldt]

It should be available the run after you have unlocked the first 4

[raw charm]

ohh

Yea

Okay thanks I just unlocked the fourth weapon

[noble quarry]

nice

[raw charm]

Im only using the bow tho I dont like the other weapons

[last veldt]

Use what works for you

[raw charm]

Any tips on how to beat those butterfly guys in the 3rd biome I keep taking massive dmg from them

[noble quarry]

well maybe the aspects help

[mint coral]

Dps check

[last veldt]

Basic bow it's good for early runs

[noble quarry]

yes

[mint coral]

Just need the dmg to kill them before they fill the place with buterrflies lol

Or use your attacks to destroy the projectiles

[noble quarry]

also dont be like me and put blood into chiron it needs a lot to be good

[last veldt]

Aspects might change your mind on favourite weapon. Secret aspects even more so.

Yeah, Chiron takes a bit, but it's very good with Dio special.

But not much else tbh.

[noble quarry]

it is but was bad idea to use it early on

[last veldt]

You end up not having blood for other stuff.

[noble quarry]

what bow do youlike best hidden?

[last veldt]

Hang on, how are you putting blood into Chiron before you unlock Rail?

[open hull]

dont get hit by them

[last veldt]

I thought you needed aspect unlock to get Chiron

[noble quarry]

already had it just used everything on chiron

[mint coral]

Rick already has rail ig

[last veldt]

Ah okay

[mint coral]

Hazey was asking how to unlock the other weapons

[noble quarry]

yeah

[last veldt]

Oh my mistake

Ta