#h1-discussion

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stone rune
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start zeus

heady monolith
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I'm sorry but

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What does that emote even mean lol

formal orbit
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It’s bouldy

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You just got to believe in it

heady monolith
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Yeah was hoping for zeus normal atk but zeus wasn't in the selection of gods in the run

drowsy linden
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"why(pain)" is typically the emotion it expresses

latent moon
latent moon
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get the damage off the bat

heady monolith
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So i took zeus keepsake going into asphodel

stone rune
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you can take athena into aspho

heady monolith
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Didn't get zeus normal atk

stone rune
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how do we have no zeus boons if we took zeus into aspho

heady monolith
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So i thought i can't get aphro cause fists aren't a big dmg boon liker, I'll just take whatever i get, i like chill as an effect so i said screw it and got that

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Complimented me very well

drowsy linden
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frost strike fists without arcticbouldy

formal orbit
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You really have to move away from athena dash at some point because always dash striking is not a good habit

heady monolith
latent moon
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i think it's more like "starting ddash is not a good habit"

heady monolith
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Idk zeus boons were very rare that run

heady monolith
latent moon
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it looks like you forced him

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and then never took him

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so he was never in the pool

heady monolith
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Yeah i did force him then he never showed up wym. Took him

drowsy linden
latent moon
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well like

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he's guaranteed to show up in asphodel if you took his keepsake

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that just means you didn't take his door

heady monolith
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I did take his door

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Look at me boons

latent moon
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i dont see a zeus boon

drowsy linden
signal aspen
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bruh

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athena dash

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no zeus

drowsy linden
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nvm

heady monolith
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I cannot see any zeus boons

latent moon
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yeah so you didn't take his door lmao

heady monolith
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I'm too tired for this I'm contradicting 2 runs at this point

jagged hamlet
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Which weapon are you using? How many runs have you done?

heady monolith
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It's 4:45am gn

latent moon
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lmao yeah you might be confusing runs at this point

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bruh go to sleep

heady monolith
formal orbit
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The madlad even fought charon

drowsy linden
signal aspen
latent moon
heady monolith
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I had an idea with chill and it worked out pretty well giving me my fastest run, not saying it's optimal but it worked lol

latent moon
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i guess zeus boons being scarce would make sense but also there should've been 1 there if you know zeus is good for your build lmao

drowsy linden
heady monolith
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Trust me i know nothing about who's good for what, which is why i asked about the aphro thing

heady monolith
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Fastest 10 chill stack I've ever seen

drowsy linden
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well, problem is that chill lasts for quite a while

formal orbit
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I only go for chill if i want to see grandma cool scythe

heady monolith
drowsy linden
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so reaching 10 stacks in 0.1 seconds is about the same as 1 second

heady monolith
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oh

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Yeah that's... Whatever ig

drowsy linden
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arctic blast would make your dps skyrocket

latent moon
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idk about skyrocket

heady monolith
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Because it's either no chill or getting that for chill

latent moon
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but it'd make your dps more existant

heady monolith
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So seeing hades become a sitting duck was entertaining

formal orbit
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The thing about artic blast is you can’t pom it

heady monolith
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Is that the one that makes. A blast at 10 chills?

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Didn't i have that?

drowsy linden
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yep

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idk dem boon icons, so i dont know if you had it or not

signal aspen
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no

drowsy linden
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was that will?

formal orbit
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Nope

drowsy linden
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oh soul

signal aspen
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thats killing freeze

drowsy linden
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🤦‍♀️

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i only know what soul looks likebouldy

formal orbit
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Killing freeze at least does something at dad

signal aspen
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yeah its like bad dio attack there

drowsy linden
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no numbing sensation, wouldve made the build funnier

heady monolith
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He was too tired to even do his phasing fire beam stuff

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Or summoning the green pots

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The funniest part is him mentioning how he's scared of persephone and her mother's powers

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Little did he know

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(i had the pom keepsake)

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Also he kept on being charmed but idk what that does for me.

drowsy linden
heady monolith
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Ik, just a funny coincidence

drowsy linden
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charmed i think make sit so that he doesnt attack and just runs away

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the first time you enter dad with pom, hell say that line of "you know nothing about their powers"

heady monolith
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He was attacking but yeah i suppose no darkness

jagged hamlet
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Charm makes him friendly for a moment. Also interrupts whatever he was doing

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Makes him giggle

mint coral
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also makes him repeat his last move after the charm

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so careful if you interrupted him mid spin

heady monolith
heady monolith
mint coral
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charm on bosses last 1/3rd of the normal charm duration too

heady monolith
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Getting meg's and achilles companion is gonna take forever at this rate

latent moon
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on bosses it's a very brief stun

heady monolith
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Meg is almost never home

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And achilles doesn't want to accept ambrosia

latent moon
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that means you need to complete his favor

mint coral
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how are you going with patroclus hearts bouldy

heady monolith
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Like 3-4 hearts, is he relevant?

mint coral
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also pretty sure achilles needs either sisyphus or orpheus favor first

heady monolith
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I just sometimes give him pity nectars

mint coral
heady monolith
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Ik I'm working on that

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Didn't know gifting patroclus had something to do with it

latent moon
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so maybe give him normal nectars regularly instead of occasional pity nectars lmao

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you gotta get both sides happy, not just one

heady monolith
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I'll make sure of that

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Achilles is the homie, patroclus is just... "A stranger" as he likes to call me

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Well what about meg never being home

latent moon
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rng moment

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just gotta check the lounge and gift her whenever you can

heady monolith
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And if she is, she has new dialogue and if i go through that dialogue chances are she's upset with me, after that I'm locked away from. Gifting

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I like to hear them out then gift, in case it would interrupt whatever they had to say

jagged hamlet
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Don't worry it'll probably only take you until your 140th run to unlock her favor. That's how long it took me

formal orbit
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Sexy Eeyore is easily the best part of elysium, you should drown him in nectar tbh

mint coral
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you can always talk after the nectar

latent moon
heady monolith
heady monolith
mint coral
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patty lmao

jagged hamlet
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Yep. Took me until my 140th run to unlock her favor bouldy

drowsy linden
heady monolith
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Why so long??

mint coral
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dialogue system being somewhat rng basically

drowsy linden
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i started gifting at about 30-40

heady monolith
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Had I known i would've started with her

mint coral
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it can be delayed to hell and back if you have a lot of main story progress done too

heady monolith
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Only started after i joined this server and learned that her support is the best one

mint coral
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as meg will try to comment on that the most

jagged hamlet
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Hoo hooo hooo I'd maxed her pre-ambrosia hearts very early too

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RNG will get you toooooooo

heady monolith
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Man come on

drowsy linden
formal orbit
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I regretted romance than first

heady monolith
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Guess skelly is here to stay for me to bully theseus every time he uses his calling

formal orbit
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Should have do meg first to get the extra dialogue

mint coral
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I don't know how long it took me for any summon cuz I wasn't focused on it lol

heady monolith
mint coral
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it just happened

heady monolith
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I'm at 37hrs so far

mint coral
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other side stories can also interrupt the dialogues for the favor but that's better at least

drowsy linden
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with no knowledge of summons

heady monolith
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Didn't focus much on the rest before

mint coral
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my first bond was with charon of all lol

heady monolith
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I generate nectar through trade exchanging jewels into keys and keys into nectars

jagged hamlet
mint coral
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and hermes was the last one

heady monolith
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But i got bored and now I'm back to cosmetic decos

heady monolith
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Rarely used his keepsake after i understood what it does

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And idk what I'm getting out of the stamp

mint coral
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is a cute sticker

heady monolith
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Ig

formal orbit
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My first bond was with the dog lmao

mint coral
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Charon is just easy to max cuz his favor is spending money

drowsy linden
mint coral
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cerberus and skelly are also easy ones

heady monolith
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So like, now that i got the credit card

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That's there permanently right?

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Or do i have to obtain it every run

mint coral
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the discount is only for the run you got it

heady monolith
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Lame.

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Felt like a key item

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No wonder it usually shows up at the beginning, when i absolutely have no chance at beating charon

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Tried twice and got folded so hard

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This time was the only time it showed up late

mint coral
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fight is stupid easy in ely so a permanent reward would be kinda lol

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but yeah if you want the most value from it gotta do it in tart

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good thing is that if you die, you didn't get that far anyways bouldy

heady monolith
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It's just not worth it for the amount of death defiances you'll lose

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Assuming u even beat him

drowsy linden
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he's really only scary because of the damge

mint coral
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Charon patterns are well telegraphed

drowsy linden
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once you learn how to do charon and dont panic at the damage, youre fine

heady monolith
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He's scary cause i have no idea what he's gonna do next and always get surprised cause of his scythe range

drowsy linden
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he does the summon->melee/wave

mint coral
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is mainly scare factor cuz funny oar swings and the fact the bag rarely shows up

drowsy linden
mint coral
drowsy linden
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never seen that

mint coral
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that's just an oar

heady monolith
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Sure then the oar

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Whatever it is, it's nuts

mint coral
drowsy linden
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oh

heady monolith
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Anyways, 2 trophies today so that's great

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30/49

mint coral
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so yeah is hard to get practice against him and you'll rarely want to even start the fight in first place

heady monolith
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20% discount to buy the death defiances u lost fr fr

mint coral
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I've done charon on 32 heat runs when I'm confident on it lmao

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I leave tartarus with like 30 seconds left but still

formal orbit
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Charon speedrun bouldy

mint coral
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I prefer jesus christ% strats

stone rune
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that route is so annoying to run

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each of the first 3 chambers has enemy rng that is pain

formal orbit
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Cgull also did that seed https://youtu.be/j53xDm8cFzk?si=35qOvw-dfJ7SabTw

YouTube
cgull
HADES SECRET BOSS CHARON EVISCERATED IN ONLY 93 SECONDS

Seeded/Routed A.K.A RNG Manipulated from a certain seed to produce this.

Why does your call charge so fast?

Call charges when you take damage as Damage Taken / Max HP, so Charon's big swings all create full charges.

Why Aphrodite's call?

Most damage, comes out fastest.

Why Eris Rail?

The +75% damage from Eris's special buff is needed to be...

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stone rune
formal orbit
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The thumbnail tho residentzag

mint coral
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hades speedruns/heat runs and peak thumbnails

native blade
native blade
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Y'all have any nicknames for characters?

mint coral
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Tony/anthony for the rat mini bosses in styx

native blade
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I just call em Trix and Brix.

open hull
native blade
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What about Gods tho?

visual iris
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How do I gift ambrosia to the gods?

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I was only able to gift it to zeus for some reason

formal orbit
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You have to do some specific requirement, ||listen to artemis story with calypso for example||

rose roost
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they're called god favors

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they're mostly hinted through dialogue

visual iris
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So I'll get them all eventually if I play enough?

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By just getting dialogue

rose roost
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some are specific but yeah

visual iris
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Ok

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Where can i find this?

rose roost
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you can also look them up on wiki

visual iris
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Thanks

native blade
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There's no way to use controller on Steam Hades huh?

mint coral
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Just connecting it should work?

stone rune
mint coral
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Otherwise open the steam overlay and see if you can configurete it there

stone rune
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that’s how most people play

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if the controller is connected to the pc it should work

native blade
mint coral
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Just press the controller

stone rune
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there’s no option

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just press buttons

native blade
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Finally

open hull
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why use controller

stone rune
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lot of ppl do

native blade
jagged hamlet
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Controller's comfy!

open hull
open hull
mint coral
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Well you got your answer then

stone rune
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is this some weird flex that u think controller is bad

native blade
open hull
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I only switched recently 1.5~y

native blade
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Sigh...

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Fauth is... cool Ig, it gets more koney or whatever...

wary iron
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Is it possible for the dyno bot to show you your deleted text, so that you can just simply cut the word out?

void vigil
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I don’t think it’s possible with dyno

native blade
void vigil
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It’s easier to get used to not swearing

wary iron
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Yes, it’s just surprising sometimes (and it always happens when I type something long)

jagged hamlet
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I don't swear at all here or elsewhere, yet Dyno still smacks me zaglol

formal orbit
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Hades is rated T, make sense for no swearing policy

native blade
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Teens swear more than anyone else tho

open hull
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Drunk 30yo who stubbed his toe:

native blade
void vigil
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there’s a time and a place for swearing and it’s pretty easy to control what you type and where

native blade
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Ofc.

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What are boons that are better to stack Poms and boons that are better to upgrade rarity?

formal orbit
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Sweet Nectar (aphro and pos duo)

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Pom +1 level

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Exclusive Access (dio+pos) duo

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Boon guarantee epic

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Or you mean rare crop?

jagged hamlet
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Chaos, Hermes, and Ares (Doom) like rarity

native blade
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Wait lol, I think u misunderstood me.

formal orbit
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Oh yeah

native blade
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What are some boons that scale well with poms and others that it's better to raise rarity?

formal orbit
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Welp, i’m suck at reading lmao

native blade
native blade
stone rune
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rarity matters on % attacks/spec and dashes

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rarity does not matter on any cast other than eshot

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nor any calls

raw herald
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Impending doom doesn’t care

coral kite
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Is there a list for like house contractor upgrades that aren’t just cosmetic? Like how the pool in your room shows your escape attempts and foes slain
Are there any more that aren’t purely cosmetic?

raw herald
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On the wiki I think

native blade
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Gotcha.

native blade
jagged hamlet
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Lyre and fountains for the house also have uses

coral kite
native blade
coral kite
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And I have trouble picking up subtle stuff

native blade
coral kite
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For example for pool scryibg it says contains faint traces of the past if you look closely

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And it has functions

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So because of this I struggle with knowing which things do what with the house contractor stuff

heady monolith
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Is there some sort of flowchart for every weapon and it's best normal/special boon?

coral kite
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So I guess I should ask what I should commission?

coral kite
native blade
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Nothing better than a Mort Double kill on Heroes.

coral kite
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So if you’re going for a certain build you’ll want to aim for some boons

coral kite
coral kite
native blade
heady monolith
native blade
coral kite
open hull
native blade
coral kite
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I hope the mods don’t ban me

heady monolith
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I don't need builds specifically, simply some common sense stuff like fists having zeus normal atk

Bow having dio special

coral kite
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Ahh I see

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So yeah also uhh what stuff should I get from the house contractor

native blade
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Gold pots, fountains, etc. Other peeps will tell ya what else.

coral kite
native blade
open hull
coral kite
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Lemme check

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What’s that one

latent moon
open hull
coral kite
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No

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Should I get that

latent moon
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like i know what the meta is and it makes sense why things are built they way they are, but before hand i just never thought about them

coral kite
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Is is 4 diamonds and I only have ten

latent moon
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yeah probably

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if you like

open hull
latent moon
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want to buy stuff with gemstones at least lmao

open hull
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And thus everything else

latent moon
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oh yeah trades

coral kite
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Po ok

native blade
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Late game you get really good stuff.

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Or mid game maybe.

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But it makes Darkness, Nectar and Keys so much more valuable;.

native blade
native blade
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This section btw, in case u didn't know.

stiff obsidian
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i didnt know you could simply not use the keepsake charge?

mint coral
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"fun" when it happens

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First time I've seen it in ely tho lol

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Mostly in aspho cuz short biome

stiff obsidian
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bruh

stone rune
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buildge

native blade
stone rune
native blade
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Very nice.

stone rune
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unfortunately fists still do not deal damage

stiff obsidian
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how do you hit the enemies with tidal dash

stone rune
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press spacebar

stiff obsidian
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but the bounce away

wary iron
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Dash and hope

native blade
stone rune
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nothing about fists kills anything ever

stiff obsidian
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oh i meant with the lightning

jagged hamlet
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You just dash right at 'em, preferably pushing them toward walls or other enemies (to bunch 'em up)

native blade
stone rune
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fists just suck

stiff obsidian
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what in the build

wary iron
wary iron
stone rune
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it was hyper

native blade
wary iron
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True

native blade
native blade
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I have bad memory btw, pretty sure u showed me b4.

stiff obsidian
wary iron
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Depends on the weapon

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Or did you mean button?

native blade
native blade
wary iron
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Took me time to get away from it

native blade
native blade
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Charon diffed.

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Arthur feels really good with Dash Nova.

stone rune
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wat

native blade
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Two Charon runs in a row is insane.

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I feel like a true god with Arthur.

native blade
drowsy linden
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draining, kick, or concentrated on gilg ME

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second hammer, first was colossus

stone rune
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you can fit two dashes

latent moon
drowsy linden
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concentrated it is because lc4

latent moon
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although idk enough about gilga to know whether or not if it's actually bad

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draining works through lc4

drowsy linden
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eh i also have stubborn roots

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bruh died to the connection bp effect because poseidon call ended

native blade
native blade
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Damn, Than beat my butt

stone rune
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maybe because we’re on ruthless reflex arthur bouldy

drowsy linden
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does hunter dash affect hestia

mint coral
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Yeah

torn phoenix
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mfw I have 100+ hrs in hades but still haven't unlocked half of the hidden aspects

lament estuary
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I just accidentally stumbled my way into a cast build

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I had Crystal Beam and ended up getting Crystal Clarity, Fully Loaded, Glacial Glare and Pressure Points, and I was using Stygian Soul

mint coral
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Gg

lament estuary
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so I could just spam super homing crystal beams that have a crit chance I think

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I was trying to go for an arti attack zagbow build but I didn't get flurry like I wanted

mint coral
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Flurry is fun but perfect/point blank also work

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As a secondary hammer

drowsy linden
lament estuary
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I didnt get either of those either

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I got like

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pierce special

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and triple attack

drowsy linden
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pretty sure stygian is worse for beam

mint coral
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Is better

latent moon
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nope

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stygian is much ebtter

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esp with glacial glare

lament estuary
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I traded triple and ended up getting twin shot from anvil so that was nice

latent moon
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based

mint coral
lament estuary
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but I already had a cast build by then so

mint coral
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Who got that stupid anvil in rama again

lament estuary
mint coral
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Something like triple + point blank

lament estuary
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one of them was sniper shot

mint coral
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Rough

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But triple is good at least

lament estuary
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yeah

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It'd be so nice if you could just reroll hammers

torn phoenix
jagged hamlet
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I think you can change one line in one file to make hammers rollable

lament estuary
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demeter fists does so much damage omg

native blade
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Haven't been tested by Than in a while.

native blade
native blade
stone rune
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unfortunately demeter is not known to make anything dead

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very sad

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very tragic

jagged hamlet
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The poor mortals on the surface

upper wolf
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demeter, a notoriously kind and pacifist goddess in the pantheon of kind and pacifist gods 👼

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in other news

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Did a zagbow run. I didn't get flurry shot, but I did get twin + explosive

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Charging ? What's that ? I'd have you know a bow is a melee weapon

lament estuary
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i tried explosive once and it did not feel fun

upper wolf
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Put an arrow on the string, then just yeet the arrow instantly without even using the string

mint coral
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I like explosive on zag bow

upper wolf
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been a while since I did that much damage on dad

mint coral
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Too bad I mainly play rama

lament estuary
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bow except zagreus just hits you with the bow

upper wolf
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byleth's neutral B

brisk trail
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sup folks

stone rune
latent moon
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imo it's more worth it to fully charge on zag bow than low charge it with explosive

drowsy linden
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do i have to run not guan yu/achilles for launcher

mint coral
languid ruin
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guys what is there to do after you’ve done the queens plan 💔

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is there anymore story left after that

drowsy linden
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yes

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involving overall story, i think theres some for 100% the game(not including 63/64 heat)

mint coral
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Queen's plan is the epilogue so main story is fully done

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Can clean up on any characters sub-story and also finish opening Demeter's lock @languid ruin

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Idk what's your progress with most characters so can't go too deep

languid ruin
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OKAY! Ty sorry I need something to look forward to to motivate me to play

drowsy linden
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well, 64 heat

languid ruin
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I cant mod…. Since i play on switch

drowsy linden
mint coral
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Speedruns/high heat can be fu but it seems you are mostly looking towards the story

languid ruin
drowsy linden
mint coral
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It has been beaten unmodded too

drowsy linden
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mods are only there to influence rng so its actually possible more often

languid ruin
languid ruin
mint coral
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Yup

languid ruin
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I saw the video pf 64 heat is impossible LMAOO

mint coral
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Funny enough a week after Haelian's video on why it would never happen was uploaded

drowsy linden
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yeah that got proved wrong 1 week later

languid ruin
mint coral
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Oh you need to look at the thimbnail

mint coral
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Wow discord killed the quality so hard lmao

languid ruin
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Alrr ty guys ^^ just kinda wanted to know what I can do while I wait for the next game ig🔥🔥🔥

mint coral
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play it from a new file again

languid ruin
drowsy linden
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yooo ff

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ff boonless whenbouldy

languid ruin
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But I’m not sure it’s worth it cause I don’t think the story rlly changes 😭

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just the pace

mint coral
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Is fun carrying gameplay to new files

drowsy linden
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you get special dialogue

languid ruin
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Wait actually?

mint coral
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Escaping on 3rd run and all the dialogues getting messed up

mint coral
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Rest of the story plays like usual

drowsy linden
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plus, ff makes you experience me

mint coral
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I really should try harder for a first run win but ehhh

languid ruin
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Thanatos challenge take no damage full run!!

mint coral
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Those have their own leaderboards squirtnya

languid ruin
#

Where…

mint coral
latent moon
latent moon
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which is what most people do

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or just playing casually, playing random builds and see what works or doesnt work and still winning with bad builds

languid ruin
latent moon
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ah

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you can look them up and see if you've beaten them lmao

languid ruin
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😭😭mb

latent moon
#

like all keepsakes at 3 stars, 30% butterfly, beating thanatos, etc

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epilogue

native blade
#

Was there an achievement for heat 64 btw?

latent moon
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nope

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steam achievement is 16

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because devs thought 32 would be too hard

native blade
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Damn, oof.

latent moon
#

there's the skelly statue of 32 heat but that's about it

native blade
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I hope they're working on one, it'd be pretty cool.

latent moon
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i dont think a 64 heat steam achievement would be good lmao

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because i can quite literally count on one hand the amount of capable players that have a chance at it

formal orbit
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I'm still trying for bad call btw, the rng is just sad

latent moon
#

oh yeah that sucks

native blade
#

Well ofc but as a sort of reward for what Angel1c accomplished.

stone rune
#

bad call is a little annoying

latent moon
stone rune
#

tip for getting full call though

latent moon
formal orbit
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lucifer is quite good for building god gauge

stone rune
#

just eat a bunch of hits

native blade
latent moon
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or do a bunch of tiny hits that deal no damage (chiron)

stone rune
#

getting hit builds god gauge a lot more efficiently than doing hits

latent moon
#

chiron charges calls very fast

stone rune
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it{s based on damage you take

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so if you run hl5 you get it faster

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damage you take proportional to your max hp

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thats used in the loyalty card route

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the jesus christ strat

formal orbit
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i'm doing js3 cp2 lmao

latent moon
#

oh that's so based

stone rune
#

just do hl5

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makes it easier to get to a trial

latent moon
stone rune
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cause its faster

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no

#

aph call

native blade
#

Wait, so would it be a bad idea to take damage reduction sometimes or does it calculate that too?

stone rune
#

it phases

latent moon
#

oh fair

stone rune
#

it would be bad

#

most DR sucks anyways

latent moon
#

is the strat like

stone rune
#

the only useful is like weak

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and sturdy

#

you take an atrophic curse from chaos

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so each hit you take from charon instantly builds greater call

latent moon
#

shackle hestia with tdash start and pray for aphrodite call between there and c5 or in midshop

stone rune
#

in the route

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oh you dont do it in normal

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thats only for routed

latent moon
#

does everyone do it routed

stone rune
#

no

latent moon
#

oh the jesus chrsit strat

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fair

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although wouldn't it still be good in unrouted

stone rune
#

people play unrouted a}

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little bit

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well you dont run hl5 i think

latent moon
#

just dont get hit lol

stone rune
#

its hestia with targeting

latent moon
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or do get hit idk

#

why not hazard?

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is the global 30% just better

stone rune
#

idk

latent moon
#

for like tdash

stone rune
#

i thought the same

#

and i have no answer

#

the wr is mistral dash 🗿

latent moon
#

lmfao

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who knows

stone rune
#

i think

#

turns out when u have no poms or flat tdash less gud

latent moon
#

why not just start tdash

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reset with shackle lmao

stone rune
#

i think whatever boon you start with just doesnt make that much difference i believe

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you just need to get the c6 shop in modded

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and good enemies or maybe a skip or two

latent moon
#

i feel like first boon would def matter in terms of getting to the room faster lmao

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more damage, etc

#

and also just more damage in charon fight

stone rune
#

its just like

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you cant get poms in anything

#

especially since the cat is rta

latent moon
#

oh right rta

#

so it's more damage but an overall time loss?

stone rune
#

idek

latent moon
#

that doesnt feel right lmao

stone rune
#

i dont actually know anything about the cat

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its just like

latent moon
#

fair

stone rune
#

there are only 5 chambers in the run to go through

#

and like 2 of them are gonna be blue laurel

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its just hard to get a thing that does a hurting to the boss

latent moon
#

makes sense

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well the 100 starting gold is a pom i guess lmao

#

just get nectar

lament estuary
#

I really want to like rail but it just feels like reloading kills the flow of it for me

jagged hamlet
#

It has a nice rhythm to it once you start dashing out of the reload animation

lament estuary
#

it just feels so much nicer to me if I can get infinite reload

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and if I can't then it just feels bad

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also

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why is hazard bomb available on the weapon that requires you to stand inside your special to power up???

latent moon
#

i mean you still get the boost

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it's not like it completely negates the gimmick

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you can also iframe dash out of the damage from hazard and still get the boost

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it's not like flurry jab on hades spear
flurry jab makes it so you can't spin, but hades spear is all about spinning

formal orbit
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accidentally take smair right before trial

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painge

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thought it was low tolerance

lunar ferry
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Guys how many fazes does hades have I got to him once with bow but only got to second faze and I wanna know if that is all

dull ledge
#

Yall the main character is speaking in a different language for me even though all the other characters speak english and I have my game on english do you know how to fix????

formal orbit
#

also screw tdash em4 man

#

pot is pain

jagged hamlet
#

Shame you didn't get Concentrated Volley with that setup

formal orbit
#

yeah, no hammer L

lament estuary
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if I have aphrodite on demeter fists special and also have the boon that makes weak foes take more damage, do the hits after the first one do more damage when special is charged

jagged hamlet
#

I wonder where the other mods are. Did the lungblossom smell drive them away?

void vigil
#

huh?

jagged hamlet
formal orbit
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what is lungblossom?

jagged hamlet
#

Thank goodness we don't have poison cloud enemies in Hades

stone rune
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🗿

jagged hamlet
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It was so hard to avoid rolling right into poison sometimes

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I wonder what drove SGG to make poison a status thing instead of an area hazard as it was in Bastion

formal orbit
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that reminds me, I should really go finish transistor, I have that for years now

jagged hamlet
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🎵 I hear you buzzin': a fly on the waaall 🎶

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It's a fair bit slower than Hades, but hopefully you'll enjoy the ART DECO

formal orbit
#

I actually know ssg from transistor, not hades

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it just hades actually hooked me way harder than transistor

jagged hamlet
#

Hades do be addictive

formal orbit
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and transistor is hard, really hard man

jagged hamlet
#

Oh! My oooold memories vs my new say that Hades is much harder. I don't recall having too much trouble in Transistor

#

I wonder if going back to it now, you'd destroy it

formal orbit
#

perhap, probably still died to the first boss

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tbh, I play it for like 3-4 hours only, not hundreds like hades

jagged hamlet
#

Hm. Hades with Turn() thanthink

#

Is probably what happens in good speedrunners' brains

formal orbit
#

the constant pausing kinda give it away

brisk trail
#

can someone help me with a few achievements?

latent moon
#

which ones?

brisk trail
#

Bad Call, Thanks but no thanks, Divided by death

latent moon
#

bad call is kinda just pain, but tanking damage helps a bit with that

#

call charges by dealing hits, taking damage, and dealing damage

#

a lot of small hits and tanking a bunch of damage should help you charge for a full call

#

is thanks but no thanks selling a legendary boon?

brisk trail
latent moon
#

make sure to take dark foresight

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and idk probably fated authority so you can force the same god more than once

stone rune
#

that’s basically just getting a legendary boon

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nah pers

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to get the lego

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and make sure u can sell it

latent moon
#

1 god runs do better with authority

stone rune
#

easiest is probably athena

latent moon
#

oh true i guess

#

why athena

stone rune
#

since after core there’s only 1 prereq

latent moon
#

it's the same as like zeus

#

and aphrodite

stone rune
#

oh

#

well yeah

#

does aph not need 2?

latent moon
#

dont think so

#

either way

stone rune
#

zeus actually easier tho

latent moon
#

dark foresight and fated persausion

stone rune
#

easier to get the prereq since there are more of them

latent moon
#

yeah try for zeus

#

divided by death, idk what that one is

formal orbit
#

Dio is easy as well

#

2 core to lego

latent moon
#

oh dio is just 2 cores

#

that's probably the easiest actually

jagged hamlet
#

It's Archilles and Patty

latent moon
#

since cores are forced

raw path
#

I say just give up w/conch until Huge Catch pops up zaglol

latent moon
#

divided by death, you kinda just have to give them nectar and talk to them more

latent moon
#

what even is teh chance for that

#

i've never seen it from just conch

short glen
#

I've seen huge catch literally one time ever

formal orbit
#

Bad new need only plume

raw path
#

I've seen it like 5 times and took it twice

formal orbit
#

But hermes is fickle

latent moon
#

i know first boon can't give it to you (excluding the story boon)

#

but like after that?

#

hermes legendary off of plume has happened somewhat often i think

raw path
latent moon
#

i said after that excluding the story boon

formal orbit
#

Hugh catch need ocean bounty, sunken treasure

latent moon
#

but like it actually does have prereqs

#

those yeah

formal orbit
#

I mean, who take those

sour fog
#

no you need conch shell, sunken treasure and ocean bounty, you need to have 2 of those 3

latent moon
#

unpommable lmao

#

oh it's 2 of 3

sour fog
#

you won't get offered huge catch otherwise

latent moon
#

that makes a whole lot more sense

raw path
formal orbit
#

2 out of 3, the last one is conch

raw path
#

thx for clearing that up

latent moon
#

i forgot it was 2/3 lmao

#

i was like "i literally speedrun beo with legacy and i've never seen it from just conch"

raw path
latent moon
#

based

void vigil
jagged hamlet
#

Ah, sorry. Was trying to make a funny along with something I'd observed, but I guess it wasn't very amusing

void vigil
#

no worries :)

native blade
#

Any nicknames for gods?

jagged hamlet
#

Arty Dio Zoos Grandma Aphro Pos. Unless you mean something different?

native blade
#

Artie, Dio/Nice/Sus, guy I hate, Grandmother, Aunt 'Dite, Uncle POS, Cuzzo, etc.

jagged hamlet
#

Aphrodite's expression kinda scares me

short glen
#

Aphrodite doesn't scare me. I'm aroace I am immune.

#

That's totally how it works

jagged hamlet
#

Little godling

short glen
#

No, I am Scourge

jagged hamlet
#

Oh, sorry. Little Scourgeling

short glen
#

True!

jagged hamlet
#

Aphrodite and Demeter: masters of barely concealed turbo rage

#

And they have the most affectionate nicknames for Zagreus too...

short glen
#

No I think godling might actually qualify as racist by divine standards ngl

#

I'm like. Semi confident I remember hearing that they call Zag that because they're under the assumption he's the son of Nyx, the titan who some of them seem to treat as other than a god in like a bad way. So if that thing I'm pretty sure I've heard is true they're calling him that because of his supposed half titan heritage. It's entirely possible this is just not true though

jagged hamlet
#

Oh hm. What's your reasoning? Zagreus doesn't seem to mind

#

Ohh

short glen
#

I'm not confident any of that is actually true I might have just heard it on a Tumblr post for all I remember

void vigil
#

The entire “bird” thing is because he calls hermes’ symbol a bat wing and not a bird wing

#

It’s not a bird wing either it’s just his wing symbol

jagged hamlet
#

Oh hecc that tidbit flew by me. And I only just realized the lack of birb in Hades

native blade
#

Can an endearment be racist?

void vigil
#

There are butterflies and bats in the underworld but I guess not birds, but I feel like people overplay it a lot

jagged hamlet
#

I think so, given some modern slang

short glen
void vigil
jagged hamlet
#

Probably not the forum for humanities thanthink

native blade
#

Fair, just saying that I think they're just trying show their care for Zag in their own way.

jagged hamlet
#

I think if I can smush parallelism into the Olympians' dialogue I will take "little godling" unironically as endearment as much as one can "little sprout" from gramma

#

Or nephew this, nephew that

native blade
void vigil
#

Artemis (or aphrodite?) does use it in a derogatory way once iirc when betrayed in a trial

#

If I’m not mistaken

jagged hamlet
#

"Some lesser god ugh"

void vigil
#

Yes thanks

native blade
#

Lmao, redblood is my favourite slur from Alecto, she insults him based on his mortal lineage which he prolly feels the most proud about.

short glen
#

I would have never guessed the Greek gods were problematic

raw path
#

Especially when Zag didn't know what he was the god of

short glen
#

I mean I think if Alecto could beat Hades she'd have done it by now

jagged hamlet
#

Probably popped too many pots dashing about as she does

native blade
jagged hamlet
#

I love that onions are as reviled and feared as they are

native blade
#

Tisiphone just gets grinded by minions.

raw path
#

Maybe even trampled if we're talkin EM?

short glen
#

She just hits every pot every time and dies instantly

native blade
#

Magaera gets Darkness'd.

short glen
#

Tis wouldn't try. I don't think she's aware enough of what's happening to do it tbh

native blade
jagged hamlet
#

So long as [redacted] doesn't get involved in murder!

short glen
#

Hades has never killed anyone ever!

jagged hamlet
#

Poor lady is surrounded by the clueless

raw path
short glen
#

That's what they tell her

native blade
jagged hamlet
#

I ate a bit of raw onion once. My stomach was like "why am I on fire?"

short glen
#

Onions are just gross tbh

native blade
#

Also they taste good.

jagged hamlet
#

Oh heck that reminds me that raw garlic buuuurns too

#

The way the furies dash is so funny. Maybe I miss a bit of their animation, but it looks like they dash right out of a sprinter's getting-ready-to-get-ready stretch

#

Especially when it's Meg since she's so professional and dignified

#

Are their wings clothing or body part?

#

Love their personality-matching ponytails

short glen
#

"dignified" for sure. Only by comparison of everyone else in the underworld except Hades being the exact opposite of it

native blade
native blade
jagged hamlet
short glen
#

That doesn't make her dignified in action

jagged hamlet
#

Ech you're right

native blade
short glen
#

She's not even that professional

native blade
#

Cap.

#

Show your reasoning.

short glen
#

She's arrogant and aggressive even to her coworkers which are usually not considered professional traits

jagged hamlet
#

Hm actually that does kinda show up in corporate culture

short glen
#

Only if you're in charge of those coworkers

#

Also she's visibly drinking in front of the shades she's supposed to be intimidating too on a fairly regular basis

native blade
#

LEZZZZZ GOOOOOO!!!! RUSH DELIVERY!!!

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Professional is determined by the environment, that's very typically done and accepted in the Underworld.

jagged hamlet
native blade
#

Plus you neglect that she only lets her guard down in front of Zagreus.

short glen
jagged hamlet
#

Oh dear imagine any shades witnessing the plushy trades

short glen
#

Imagine the ones standing outside zag's doorless room when she and zag. You know.

jagged hamlet
#

I love that the grimdark setting has this incredibly dorky undercurrent

short glen
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I'm sorry you have to think about that now. I'm not sorry at all

short glen
jagged hamlet
#

I'd hate to be a shade burdened with such sweet yet dangerous gossip

raw path
#

Yeah the secondhand embarassment must've been real bad when Meg ||was rejected||

#

I eased off on the individual run-ins tbh, didn't want that other decision to be burned into the save

native blade
#

I forgot why i loved Beo...

#

I might be starting my Beo arc soon.

heady monolith
#

worth it?

#

fists demeter aspect

#

or should i take the bottom one instead

native blade
#

Worth

upper wolf
#

Depends on if you already have ME or not I imagine

heady monolith
#

whats ME

native blade
#

Merciful end

tepid light
#

Me misreading ravenous will as "do less damage and take more"

#

And having to do a double take

heady monolith
upper wolf
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ares/athena duo

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procs doom instantly

#

on dash basically

#

totally OP

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best reason to go Ares on fists

#

otherwise I'd only use %increase on special on dem

jagged hamlet
#

Really nice of SGG to make the dash damage come after the strike damage

heady monolith
#

Which normal atk boon to go for with hera bow

#

Also do u ever use special with that?

#

And which cast

upper wolf
#

aphro cast

#

never special

#

kinda whatever atk boon

#

avoid poseidon but that's about it

heady monolith
#

So aphro keepsake starter?

#

And which dash?

upper wolf
#

yeah aphro keepsake 100%

#

probably poseidon dash

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when in doubt, you either take pos or athena dash

#

but you don't really care about core boons

#

you just want crush shot there, and zeus call

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other than that you care more about chaos, hunter's mark + pressure point + fully loaded, smoldering air + all the call boosting things, and snow burst

heady monolith
#

What's the atk pattern like

upper wolf
#

load as many casts as you need

#

shoot

#

gather cast stones

#

repeat until everything is dead

heady monolith
#

Reload cast not mag cast right?

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The green one

upper wolf
#

nah

#

more cast stones 1000%

#

your casts dislodges faster

heady monolith
#

oo

upper wolf
#

you'll end up using 3 times as many casts with infernal sould than stygian

heady monolith
#

This is the first time. I'll ever use the default one

upper wolf
#

and since casts are 90% of your damage -> more casts more good

#

not to mention you usually OS enemies

#

so you can get all three cast stones instantly

heady monolith
#

Don't think i have the darkness for default cast but I'll see what I can do

#

Might refund

native blade
#

Which one?

heady monolith
#

First

#

That dash with poseidon on styx is a rat extermination program

native blade
brisk trail
#

why does the little chariot make cat noises

#

like, not only does it meow, it also purrs

#

i don't wanna kill it anymore

#

or is the fact that they're in elysium mean all cats go to heaven

#

or elysium i guess

native blade
native blade
brisk trail
#

dammit, cat hater

#

oh well

#

I guess I could make them kill themselves

native blade
brisk trail
#

that's true

native blade
brisk trail
tepid light
#

After trying to clear with gilgamesh far too many times and failing miserably every time

#

I must come to the conclusion that I have already gotten to the point where this aspect just can't pull its weight

#

Which makes me sad

native blade
brisk trail
native blade
brisk trail
#

cat owners tend to hate cats

#

me who can't beat the game at 0 heat still

tepid light
native blade
brisk trail
#

even though I got thick skin maxxed, pstatus maxxed, and death defiance at 2

native blade
brisk trail
tepid light
#

i may just be a bad player, alternatively

heady monolith
#

Guys is titan blood for ambriosa a good trade?

native blade
heady monolith
#

For the amount of ambriosa i have, it's pretty unaccessible so even if I somehow went to 0 I'd have enough by the time i can use them

native blade
heady monolith
#

With that said, how to unlock nyx's ambriosa option?

native blade
heady monolith
heady monolith
#

Chaos just talks about whoever i have a boon of

tepid light
#

it's more just

heady monolith
#

Last time it brought up aphrodite

tepid light
#

everything is too fast and hits too hard

brisk trail
native blade
heady monolith
#

Idk how to work with tight deadline when styx have the same timer as hades

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But i guess i won't have that issue anymore since I'm killing hades in 2mins nowadays

brisk trail
#

can someone help point me to a page with all the shade conversations

heady monolith
#

Idk, used tight deadline before and it messed up my win so i said never again

tepid light
brisk trail
native blade
tepid light
#

I've never seriously considered using ruthless reflex

native blade
heady monolith
#

Charon already maxed

tepid light
#

But I'm worried that the reduced mobility will mess me up even more

native blade
#

Also FO might be your problem on that note.

heady monolith
#

Guys does the prophecy scroll count towards trophy completion?

#

Cause I'm not sure what's the condition of the prophecy that mentions all kinds of mirror boosts

#

Am. I supposed to play with them or do i have to clear

#

Or simply unlock?

#

Or is it having them maxed

native blade
tepid light
native blade
native blade
tepid light
#

Yeah forced overtime has definitely given me problems
But the reason why I'm taking it is also the same reason why I'm not taking other modifiers

I strongly dislike modifiers that directly make the player weaker rather than just making enemies stronger

native blade
#

More hard labour to replace FO?

heady monolith
#

for some reason i have only one or 2 wins with the spear while the rest have multiple wins, the spear also always breaks my win streak

#

is it just me?

tepid light
native blade
native blade
heady monolith
#

If I'm in a respawn phase i charge the spin

#

Using ganyu spear

#

My biggest trouble with ganyu is traps

#

Always catch me offguard and u can't afford that

#

Then there is the poison at styx

native blade
heady monolith
#

How to use it properly

#

I tried achilles aspect and... The damage wasn't there ngl+ it was too much hand strain with the spam

#

Zagreus aspect is meh

native blade
#

Cast first and special is good, but when u dash strike in don't dash out unless you need to. Use the reach to keep them in range and deal with ranged enemies with special and cast.

heady monolith
#

That's what i said..?

native blade
heady monolith
#

Dash strike is a killing blow

native blade
native blade
heady monolith
#

Using zeus for norm atk is that good?

#

Aphro for special

#

Poseidon dash

#

Not sure which cast to go for

native blade
native blade
heady monolith
#

Wha

#

Why cc special

#

Isn't special supposed to be the main dmg

native blade
native blade
heady monolith
#

Are u use u used ganyu?

native blade
heady monolith
#

It doesn't function like normal spear

native blade
heady monolith
#

Normal atk is very punishable and special is used 90% of the time

native blade
heady monolith
native blade
#

lmao, dyno trapped.

heady monolith
#

Keep forgetting about that bot

native blade
#

Same lol.

upper wolf
#

yeah you 100% go special on guan yu

#

Going for attack as your main move is just asking to die

#

at that point might as well play arthur

#

about as unbelievably slow, but at least you gain extra tankiness instead of becoming wet paper

amber kraken
#

Why is there always just one good shade?
After over 100 runs I thought Zag would get a slightly larger fan base

native blade