You can directly measure that without getting into weeds that make objectivity harder to measure.
#h1-discussion
calm zenith
stone rune
it is objective to say that zeus is the best aspect for heats above 60
calm zenith
No it isn't
royal widget
HESTIA 💪
calm zenith
It's true to say it is the most relied on for high heat
stone rune
are you trying to imply that people are sleeping on gilga for high heat
calm zenith
Look I saw people take a brand new game and completely misunderstand its meta. Now I am even more distrustful of the meta.
Cause those players were struggling way more with the game with their "meta" than I was with the bad characters.
calm zenith
My theory was they just didnt understand scaling in a roguelike
But that's besides the point. The real issue with meta is, it's more like the easiest way to get the best results.
Nothing objective about that.
It's just a route
stone rune
are you being intentionally obtuse
stone rune
hades is a rather studied game
calm zenith
Usually from community learning
calm zenith
Yeah same with other games. That doesnt mean much still.
stone rune
but there are also objective things
calm zenith
It's still literally a game.
stone rune
objective things include that gilga is a bad aspect
calm zenith
Like I think you're missing the point
Interesting how you cant prove any of this.
Totally objective though.
Meeting an arbitrary goal in a game is totally objective.
stone rune
yeah this is pretty intentionally obtuse
calm zenith
That isnt what objectivity is.
stone rune
you know precisely what i mean and you're misinterpreting that
calm zenith
No you just dont know what objectivity is. You're applying it to what is convenient or what fits how you play.
Instead of realizing it's literally a game lmao
Like lots of stuff is well studied.
stone rune
yeah i’m not doing this
calm zenith
Lots of stuff is also incredibly wrong and based on bias.
Like do I need to go through the history of scientific development.
They all thought they were objective.
And now you're saying this video game that is like 5 years old, somehow people found objectivity in it unlike in any other game where it is clearly impossible.
Like I have 2200 hours in a game and that includes modding it, so I know how the game works from the ground up. Some comparisons can be objective in some contexts
If I said there were some objective right way to play I would be lying.
In fact people recently proved there are alternate ways to play completely opposite to how my community usually played. Our meta. The Korean community had their own distinct meta.
I really want you to try to prove there is some objectivity here instead of just group thinking about how a game should be played.
Because I've seen this lots in the past and trust me, the meta you worship is probably just 1 meta of many.
Now you have to deal with the real implications of deciding which community who plays this game is "right".
Or you can just simply not be a nerd and pretend video games can be objective.
Like let people have fun and just explain how things work.
raw herald
No high heat player has even mained gilga for pushing 50+
calm zenith
Missing the entire point. Good job.
raw herald
I made 1 comment
calm zenith
One that had already been answered and is irrelevant now
royal widget
aspects such as beowulf and hestia generally outperform aspects like talos and arthur
would it be wrong to say beo is objectively stronger than arthur?
calm zenith
Yes because it's a game
That's my entire point.
Like explaining it as "there can be multiple metas" is just one way I'm trying to debunk meta.
This game is just as old if not older than Hades
And there is an entire meta just alien to NA/European players.
Like literally opposite to how those players play.
remote iris
Zagreus: Hey Orpheus and Eurydice, where did a new study show that microplastics were found in?
Orpheus and Eurydice: https://youtu.be/ojx8dyes__8
mint coral
The paws are fun
remote iris
yes
hardy spear
i find them yucky
latent moon
If someone wants to play gilga just let them play gilga 
The average player isn't gonna go past 32 and everything works for 32
And the average player isn't gonna care much about speed either
Just give them a build or whatever and guide them
If they just want a certain number like sub10 or 32 heat and they're struggling on gilga you can suggest something else but if they want to do it on gilga that's fine
(have fun grinding for ME tho lmao)
normal marlin
is this "gilga" everyone is talking about the hidden malphon aspect
rustic vale
Yea
normal marlin
true
rustic vale
Or guan-yu aspect of achilles
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779451865399368/1098025126647300156/im...
btw this is not my screenshot
it was posted
22 minutes ago in speedcord
stone rune
yeah
normal marlin
yeah I just noticed that
stone rune
there's lucifer, arthur, guan yu, gilgamesh, rama, beowulf
normal marlin
is rama the coronacht aspect
rustic vale
Guan-yu = chinese
Arthur = roman
Beowuld= some european
Gilga = idk
Rama = indian iirc?
Luci = christianity
rustic vale
i’m
normal marlin
isn't arthur english
normal marlin
like
king arthur
stone rune
no
normal marlin
the guy who pulled the sword from the stone
rustic vale
yes
rustic vale
It’s from england I think but it’s really far back
normal marlin
so what does rama do
rustic vale
Special is a 3 burst that ricochets and inflicts shared suffering so your attack deals extra damage to all inflicted
Attack is slower heavier and wider
normal marlin
um
what is the 3rd statue
The 32 heat one
royal widget
Guan-yu = chinese
Arthur = roman
Beowuld= some european
Gilga = idk
Rama = indi...
chinese
British
old English
mesopotamia
india
christian
normal marlin
it is just another skelly statue right
royal widget
it is just another skelly statue right
no it's actually Zagreus this time
rustic vale
chinese
British
old English
mesopotamia
india
christian
Thnx
rustic vale
Do you want the spoiler
royal widget
every copy of hades is personalized
rustic vale
Oh true
The supergiant from supergiantgames actually comes to your house and modifies the game himself
rustic vale
This is why I avoid #h1-for-new-players
thin cipher
Guan-yu = chinese
Arthur = roman
Beowuld= some european
Gilga = idk
Rama = indi...
Wasn't Beowulf Scandinavian?
rustic vale
chinese
British
old English
mesopotamia
india
christian
This one
calm zenith
Beowulf is both effectively tbh
Both cultures had connections to the other, especially in story telling, which lead to the development of the modern English language (well, Old and Middle English).
Tolkien has an interesting but of course very old academic translation.
Gilgamesh is a very interesting story if you really study it. Did a pretty good paper on it in my 1st year and would have had the chance to see a tablet piece, but the museum in Berlin didnt have it on display when I was there.
The Hidden aspects are all myths that are sort of scattered in time and space. Future or past or distant forms that weapon has taken.
Instead of literally more familiar forms, wielded by your family and other more distant relatives.
They're neat and challenge the weapon's meta for the most part. I like that. I get that isnt for everyone though.
Lucifer doesnt but is still quite fun and different
calm zenith
Yeah. People struggle with Rama the most, which I imagine is having to learn it, and maybe some unoptimal bow play.
Standing strikes, improper use/measurement of distance, the fact it requires setup and payoff in certain timeframe
It can punish hard. If you mess up and dont get a good enough shot out before Shared Suffering expires, you lose so much dps.
stone rune
Lucifer doesnt but is still quite fun and different
i mean the build sure is just eris but the playstyle is significantly different
calm zenith
Yeah
stone rune
more different id argue than most other hidden aspects
arthur is just sword but worse
calm zenith
Fair yeah
stone rune
guan yu is like if exploding launcher was good
rama is still dash striking but you press q now
beo is beo whatever
and gilga is fists but if they sucked even harder
stone rune
longer dash delay = less often
signal aspen
shorter dashes + longer dash delay = get hit more
dire tendon
hold down button = funny
junior leaf
couldn't be me
junior leaf
imagine just getting some Athena boons and skelly tooth and just mashing everything to win
couldn't be me
ever.
rustic vale
Imagine using skelly tooth ever
junior leaf
true
junior leaf
couldn't be me for half my runs
rustic vale
was me when I was getting it to 3 star, haven’t touched it since
royal widget
and high heat asph
rustic vale
me personally i would just not take the damage
Same (because of acorn)
stone rune
but i need to take athena into ely for the heroic replacement dash
royal widget
does toothe get buffed by ToS
stone rune
holy crap
rustic vale
Me omw to post a vaguely related victory screenlike usual
stone rune
town of salem
royal widget
i do love touch of styx
junior leaf
Hermes the goat with that one
once you go Hermes you can't go back
everything feels slow
dire tendon
pressing button in rapid succession
carpal tunnel
stone rune
i play geometry dash
royal widget
common jazz w
royal widget
everyone did that
stone rune
have u beat
mint coral
i do love touch of styx
Touch of styx my beloved
stone rune
dire tendon
i dont think so
stone rune
necropolix
junior leaf
stereo madness
dire tendon
stereo madness
i beat that one
junior leaf
congratulations on your achievement Menaxelum#6550
dire tendon
thank you
dire tendon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M7Y6OHRcQI
i dont think i can beat that one
rustic vale
maybe because it's more "buffable"
No it’s stockholm syndrome
stone rune
i dont think i can beat that one
it only took me like 15 thousand attemtps
junior leaf
I don't think i have 15 thousand of anything
stone rune
i have 15 thousand cents
hardy spear
i have 15 thousand cents
prove it by sending them to me
short pawn
Whats the cue that hades is about to use death beam cannon?
latent moon
he stands still and his spear starts spinning around him
iirc
also he yells "fire" i think
latent moon
lol that's fine
any weapon is fine tbh
as long as you learn it enough
bow is pretty good tho
also i recommend sticking to #h1-for-new-players
just make sure to spoiler the boss hades in that channel
i guess for the boss fight you can ask here so you dont have to spoiler anything tho, but anything else i recommend staying there
short pawn
Cheers
I am mostly struggling with hades himself and the shield creeps in third atage
Stage*
latent moon
do you have aspects unlocked yet?
latent moon
eh that's fine
short pawn
I got chiron dor bow
latent moon
what did you level up
short pawn
And i think spear or shield
latent moon
which shield and spear
short pawn
Honestly dont remember im at work
latent moon
ah that's fine
could just stick to bow, shield is also good
for spear, if you got achilles then you could use that too
latent moon
lmao happens to the best of us
short pawn
Fists are actually pretty strong i found out
latent moon
they're alright
stone rune
bigp moment
latent moon
lmao i love bigp
stone rune
he wasn’t lying when he said it happens to the best of us
short pawn
Triangle attack the one where you pull and upper cut is too good for skulls and as a main attack pattern
Haha
latent moon
talos kinda funky
calm zenith
For shield creeps focus a hammer that says Piercing really
short pawn
What does bigp stand for tho if its okay to ask
calm zenith
Piercing ignores shields
stone rune
What does bigp stand for tho if its okay to ask
player lol
latent moon
What does bigp stand for tho if its okay to ask
one of the better speedrunners in the community lol
stone rune
top speedrunner
latent moon
yeah
short pawn
Aha
latent moon
he didn't play the game btw
stone rune
who also i think hasn’t seen the end credits or something
latent moon
he just got a maxed save file and started speedrunning
stone rune
lmfao
latent moon
so he straight up did not know a lot of basic stuff lmfao
calm zenith
The weirdest people to me
stone rune
should play fftc
latent moon
there was one really bad one but i dont remember exactly what it was
latent moon
The weirdest people to me
i also find it really weird but it's honestly extremely funny
short pawn
Honestly this is the one game i am enjoying the lore and conversations
I am so invested in the bard and his waifu
calm zenith
Yeah its funny
Just a very specific way to play video games
Like you are just a speedrunner
short pawn
Kinda sad i cant waifu her, but getting them to reconcile is a close second choice
It is sooo hard to bring myself to leave her room
stone rune
short pawn
latent moon
nice message link
latent moon
yeah lmfao
stone rune
goat thought process
calm zenith
I legitimately just think the process of thinking about the game exclusively like that leads to just not thinking about mechanics
latent moon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1028112977100017666/1098501529771716688...
his first message in speedcord was 5 months before this
so like
plenty of time
calm zenith
Of course that falls off when you need to know how the mechanic works
stone rune
bigp is also better than all of us here by a long shot
calm zenith
Yeah thats why it's funny to me
Literally just not considering Hades as anything but a fancy hurdle
(The boss)
Like you can kinda ignore stuff and kinda need to when you're going fast
latent moon
he was shooting for a sub8 at that time and he didn't know how dad phases work this is amazing
short pawn
To reconcile the bard i have to finish the boulder guys quest first?
calm zenith
Yeah sounds like a tendency to just phase smash Hades
latent moon
To reconcile the bard i have to finish the boulder guys quest first?
those shouldn't be related
calm zenith
Yeah I dont think they are
latent moon
now he's one of the few with a sub5 lmao
calm zenith
You must bring back Orpheus to the house, then I believe do some make-up work between them, then allow Orpheus to leave the house, then more make-up
Basically between any quest you'll have some dialogue to follow
Exacts can be hard to determine because there are so many event triggers.
short pawn
Aha i was checking the wiki
It said the pre requisite to making them reconcile was to have the boulder guys quest completed
I got both nyx bard and his waifu to 5 hearts
And talking to them at every chance
But rng is making it difficult to see the waifu
Not sure how to get orpheus to sing tho
Just convos or need to get him more drinks?
graceful flicker
I have some of my quests stalled out right now too
Been basically handing out drinks at random since
Also played with the final sword aspect for the first time, hits like a truck
empty swallow
Why does no one talk bout curse of drowning the duo is so underrated
royal widget
because it's more of a meme
empty swallow
But its so good ngl
latent moon
It's not lmao
It's got a niche on Achilles and a secondary duo on fists after ME
But that's about it
rustic vale
Why does no one talk bout curse of drowning the duo is so underrated
It isn’t
it is not underrated
latent moon
i think zyru said it's the second best cast for achilles and it's underrated lmao
but like in general it's pretty eh
stone rune
ok but like
you need doom somewhere too
for it
and
if you got ares
just like take slicing shot???
latent moon
you need doom somewhere too
might not be offered lmao so you just slap it onto the special
rustic vale
I require the context
latent moon
you're not guaranteed slicing shot
latent moon
I require the context
trying to find it but i do remember him saying it's good
stone rune
you're guaranteed after 3 rolls 🤤
latent moon
on achilles
rustic vale
you're not guaranteed slicing shot
Then just build ME 
rustic vale
Ez exchangep
latent moon
It is very good, it’s probably second best or maybe even best cast for Achilles imo
Hunting blades is probably better for rooms
-zyru
i dont want to screenshot, post somewhere else, and grab image link
so you're just getting it that way lmao
stone rune
is this in speedcord
latent moon
yes
latent moon
rustic vale
Also
stone rune
also lol sea storm
rustic vale
No other aspect wants it as a cast
latent moon
i think it might just be achilles gud with cast
yeah that's why i said it's got a niche for achilles lmao
stone rune
achilles crush shot 🤤
latent moon
zyru also got cod on pos sword
but it also had ME lmao
but hey basically free braid
stone rune
lmfao
latent moon
but yeah, it's got an achilles niche but idk how easy that is to actually use in practice
bosses are a lot easier, room clearing kinda funky
on paper anyways
latent moon
gaming
everyone progresses at different rates so don't feel bad if you take longer lol
also i'm pretty sure the former wr holder took like 50
stone rune
50 yeah
latent moon
some take more
stone rune
also i'm pretty sure the former wr holder took like 50
crazy that it's actually former now
drk so based
latent moon
feels wrong that croven doesnt have either wr tbh
speaking of speed, speedrunning 40 heat kinda difficult
latent moon
that's too boring
latent moon
skill issue
latent moon
L;MFAO IT WORKDE
bruh lmao
short pawn
i was expecting they get more dmg or something
latent moon
do you wanna grab me a nitro while you're at it
latent moon
oh that's one of the better ones to take first lol
stone rune
do you wanna grab me a nitro while you're at it
i mean i prefaced htis with 3 days of like meeting these people
latent moon
for 1 heat it's honestly not that bad
short pawn
short pawn
for 1 heat it's honestly not that bad
yeah that was my reasoning too
latent moon
i mean i prefaced htis with 3 days of like meeting these people
wanna grab me one anyways
short pawn
but just so i understand, i can stay at one heat and repeat it with the same weapon and i still get rewards?
or do i need to increase the heat as i go?
sour fog
you need to increase
latent moon
increase heat as you clear said heat
royal widget
could i beat 20 heat 20 times for 20 rewards though?
sour fog
yes
stone rune
wanna grab me one anyways
if you're also a suicidal trans person i can shoot u an invite but you also gotta be terminally online to a degree
sour fog
you could either do 20 runs starting at 1 and ending at 20 or just do 20 at 20 the result will be same
royal widget
if you're also a suicidal trans person i can shoot u an invite but you also gott...
👉👈
normal marlin
For the conditions prophecy
do you need to have them all active at the same time or can you split them into a few runs
calm zenith
Every time you unlock a certain heat's reward you get darkness instead next time
So yes you need to increase heat again to get new rewards
stone rune
For the conditions prophecy
do you need to have them all active at the same time...
you can split
calm zenith
I'm replying to someone else
normal marlin
oh ok
normal marlin
thank you
calm zenith
Just use them once
normal marlin
yeah
calm zenith
For a successful run I think
stone rune
yeah it’s escaping with them
normal marlin
and
I just got the lyre
can you sit there until you've tried it like 200 times and eventually get good
calm zenith
So yes you need to increase heat again to get new rewards
But you need to complete a heat's rewards to get the next tier iirc
normal marlin
or does it have a limit each escape attempt
normal marlin
ok
Do styx encounters not count towards the pierced butterfly
just the final room does, of there is one?
stone rune
Do styx encounters not count towards the pierced butterfly
only final
normal marlin
damn
stone rune
same with plume
normal marlin
what about blossom
raw herald
it works
normal marlin
oh nice
normal marlin
normal marlin
sweet surrender <:DisappointmentChampion:730313310888788029>
what do you mean by that
stone rune
mom pom bad
rustic vale
what do you mean by that
Working != working well
short pawn
question about the lambent plume do i keep the dodge and move speed bonus from it if i switch the item out?
royal widget
nope
short pawn
ah sadge
so gotta keep it to maintain its dodge buff, hmm seems like it could be strong
but also limits your building path if you want to hunt for specific god powers :"C
booo
latent moon
but also limits your building path if you want to hunt for specific god powers :...
That's why it's bad lol
rustic vale
but also limits your building path if you want to hunt for specific god powers :...
That’s what makes it bad
In reference to all the stacking keepsakes:
“because taking it early (tartarus or asphodel) is opportunity cost and taking it later (elysium or styx), you don’t get enough stacks to make it worth it”
rustic vale
That's why it's bad lol
I mean if you’re routing your runs why not take plume or butterfly
short pawn
i got 7.9 bonus on it
in 14 chambers
though it wasnt full upgraded on start
lets see if it helps or not ;-;
empty swallow
short pawn
i actually thought opheus was a girl for a long time
latent moon
~~I mean if you’re routing your runs why not take plume or butterfly~~
It'll make routing much harder than it already is lmao
rustic vale
I HATE YOU
calm zenith
I used to do Plume gilga runs a lot
Besides that I've put it on to aim for Hermes's legendaries.
latent moon
Plume has a niche or two but it's not a great pick most of the time
calm zenith
Yeah I'd mostly use plume if you just know what you're doing or arent building.
lapis harbor
What was the very first early access like? What content existed?
Used to end on the hydra?
rustic vale
What was the very first early access like? What content existed?
Tbh you can scroll at the way back to the very begining in patch notes
The patch notes do go all the way back to early access
lapis harbor
That’s what I did but it only lists changes
rustic vale
What was the very first early access like? What content existed?
Yeah but based on what got added
You can kinda trace back what was already in the game
lapis harbor
Yeah, but that’s a lot of work lol
latent moon
hitting "give up" makes it as if the run never happened
it's not an insta-death button, it's a reset button
toxic trellis
You die
latent moon
if you feel like the run is gonna suck you can hit give up
mainly if your first boon/hammer is good
could also hit give up to keep your win streak
stone rune
muted glen
Probably idk
void vigil
You can’t combine it with exploding launcher, or aspects of achilles or guan yu - if you take those try running something else
muted glen
Zag spear basically
upper thorn
and how to do the lyre learning minor prophecy
void vigil
Play it a lot
upper thorn
and the poseidon catch one
i am so sure that i catched enough
and I am just curious but does the timing of fishing matter?
or is it purely random
void vigil
You can also catch a fish in a previous run and not turn it in, then talk to him
muted glen
i am so sure that i catched enough
Caught*
void vigil
Yeah, rarity is tied to catch time
upper thorn
so the faster the better? or the other way
void vigil
Faster means rarer
void vigil
Just for the one prophecy, yeah, after you can sell
upper thorn
ok
thanks for the info
couldn't have known that you can't sell the fish
the fishes
void vigil
Main tip is it can only false bob 3 times, so the 4th will be a catch for sure, but otherwise just learning the patterns and improving your reaction time maybe
calm zenith
and how to do the lyre learning minor prophecy
For the lyre one you just need to do it a LOT
upper thorn
so just play it
calm zenith
Like it will take longer than a run
void vigil
You can also do it by catching a fish in the run and then using poseidon keepsake for the next biome, but then he might talk about something else
calm zenith
If you have turbo that works
latent moon
For the lyre one you just need to do it a LOT
210 to be exact, and you have to talk to orpheus once somewhere in the middle or something
calm zenith
Yeah
latent moon
well you have to play his instrument
calm zenith
Yeah
upper thorn
Okay thanks for the infp
calm zenith
You get better at it
latent moon
the easiest way is to just like, play it 2 or 3 times before you do a run
"easiest" meaning like
void vigil
Yeah so it’s better to do it over multiple runs imo and not stress about it
latent moon
less brain dead lmao
latent moon
the other option is sit there for a while and spam it
upper thorn
I have three left
Chain skewer (all varatha hammers)
Fish
Lyre
So im gonna do it lol
Thanks, its been a pain in the a for a while
void vigil
I did it like 5 times between each run and it went by quickly enough
calm zenith
Np
upper thorn
And why does approved process exist 😭
latent moon
i used to do 1 each run before realizing i had to do it 210 times lmao
latent moon
And why does approved process exist 😭
to make life bad
calm zenith
That's like a week even if you go slow
upper thorn
And I can't get in bed with dusa even after doing everything, giving ambrosia and all that
latent moon
i've been speedrunning 40 heat a lot recently and oh boy the amount of times i had mirage shot crossed out
calm zenith
She is platonic love
upper thorn
The bond bar is full, and there are 3 hearts after the love arrow
calm zenith
She has a friend crush on Zag
upper thorn
So no bed?
latent moon
no
upper thorn
No cutscene or anything
latent moon
she's just a friend lmao
upper thorn
Bruh sad
calm zenith
Yup
latent moon
oh yeah there is a cutscene
upper thorn
Wasting all of my ambrosia
calm zenith
It just doesnt end up in sex scenes being a random mid-run event
upper thorn
Okay thanks, gave me motivation
calm zenith
Those mostly happen with Meg though Thanatos is busy.
upper thorn
It just doesnt end up in sex scenes being a random mid-run event
Yeah ik I've seen the meg scene
calm zenith
||you can do both at once too||
calm zenith
Yeah definitely a spoiler
brazen quiver
hey what's up?
mint coral
1% base chance moment
brisk trail
upper thorn
Its actually 1%???
I got lambent plume with + rarity from well and quick reload and the +10% from the mirror
How
gray apex
Its actually 1%???
Base is 1% yea
gray apex
I got lambent plume with + rarity from well and quick reload and the +10% from t...
Plume does not affect rarity, it only makes you eligible to have it offered
upper thorn
Go on pls
mint coral
Go on pls
If you have plume equipped you can see he legendary from the first hermes boon basically
gray apex
How many hermes boons in a run?
Most of the time you'll get offered 2 throughout the run. The maximum is 3 but you'll have to buy the third in Styx.
void vigil
there is, https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hades_Wiki
gray apex
And chaos?
There is technically no cap on how many Chaos you can get in a run but after each gate there is a cooldown before another gate can spawn naturally. It varies depending on your current biome. 10 chambers for Tart, 8 for Aspho and Ely.
void vigil
but a lot of players in this server are very knowledgeable about the game from playing a lot of it 
gray apex
Yea I have atleast 3 hours of playtime
void vigil
omg me too
upper thorn
30 hours you meant
gray apex
If you want the real answer it's actually closer to 900
latent moon
How do u know this stuff?
A lot of playing lol
upper thorn
If you want the real answer it's actually closer to 900
Why
Would you choose to suffer
raw herald
Fr
upper thorn
Wtf level 40 divine dash
raw herald
It’s fake dw
upper thorn
Yeah 900 hours very nice
I spent like 2000 hours on smash so i probably can't judge lnao
Lmao
Do you play any other rogue lites?
royal widget
im at only 202
stone rune
im at 250
pastel monolith
im over 900
approaching 1000
i wonder how long before i get bored
maybe when hades 2 arrives
mint coral
Last time i check I had like 700+ hrs
But probably closer to 500 due to the switch sleep function
signal aspen
im at 692
latent moon
nice
raw herald
Neither
upper thorn
How to see it?
rustic vale
How to see it?
See what
rustic vale
Hours played depends on your system
rustic vale
Go to your profile
rustic vale
It also may display it in the save file menu in game
upper thorn
Longer than i expected
rustic vale
It also may display it in the save file menu in game
For time on that save
But I don’t remembee
upper thorn
Okay thanks
normal marlin
for a prophecy, I need to reunite Eurydice and orpheus
I guessed that I need to bring Orpheus's keepsake to Eurydice?
is that right
stone rune
uh
hold on
As you deepen your relationship with both Orpheus and Eurydice, Zagreus will ask Eurydice for a copy of her song, Good Riddance, which he will share with Orpheus. After receiving the song, Orpheus will begin singing it in the House. After several more conversations with both, Eurydice will begin a meeting with:
What happens now, hon...? What I mean is... now you got me thinking about Orpheus again, so... what am I supposed to do with that?
To progress further you will need to have:
Both Orpheus and Eurydice at a minimum of 5 hearts.
Access to the Administrative Chamber.(purchased through the House Contractor)
A conversation with Nyx (who must be at 5 hearts) about the Admin Chamber (which can also be triggered by starting Sisyphus's liberation quest).
A conversation with Hades about Orpheus' contract (which requires Orpheus to have started singing again).
A followup conversation with Nyx about Orpheus's sentence, in which she tells you the location of his file in the Admin Chamber.
After finding the document in the Admin Chamber, speak to the House Contractor to purchase the Singer's Gamble for 3 Diamond.
The next conversation you have with Orpheus will earn his favor and complete the Musician and Muse prophecy in the Fated List of Minor Prophecies.
normal marlin
Ok I recently got the "what happens now hon" line
I know
gotta get them both to 5 hearts
hold on what's nyx's favor
stone rune
just like talk to her and give her nectar and stuff itll pop up eventually
normal marlin
ok
I looked it up too
thank you
I have actually heard multiple lines about reconnecting with chaos
rose trellis
What was the very first early access like? What content existed?
If you're still interested, here's an ancient speedrun of mine from the 2nd patch of the game during early access. TLDW: no fists, no weapon aspects, no demeter, no hermes, Lernie is final boss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ_9WzpyzBs
Also and most glaringly, the dash looks and feels very wonky.
dull niche
this is so disorienting lmfao
rose trellis
Ya it was really weird LOL some runners from way back when hated when they changed the dash to its current form and said they were gonna quit.
Change scary
rose trellis
That was just the name of the patch since it introduced Chaos, I didn't understand naming conventions back then lol
rose trellis
thanks for the link this is so funky
The next patch is when stuff got cool kinda and I got some cools runs using, of all things, spear special spam because the damage was legit
stone rune
no fists 🤤
imagine allweps without fists
i forgot that lernie arena normally looks like that
royal widget
If you're still interested, here's an ancient speedrun of mine from the 2nd patc...
was 3 dashes from mirror and then nerfed to 2?
royal widget
also how can you collect heat skulls
stone rune
that was the old heat thing
look through the history of the heat page on the wiki it was funny
signal aspen
never use orpheus keepsake ever
distant memory best keepsake
upper thorn
Any super super fun cast build?
upper thorn
Differences between flare and shot?
rustic vale
and so it isn’t beo exclusive
upper thorn
I swore I commented a question
stone rune
well for 99% of purposes
flare is beo exclusive
we dont need to pick hairs about this
upper thorn
Wtf my discord having troubles loading messages
stone rune
like
upper thorn
aspect of shield
Yeah
rustic vale
Like immediately release and prok in an area around the end of your dragon rush
rustic vale
I am playing flood shot tho
the difference is that beowulf gets flares instead of shots
stone rune
unless ur doing it for speedrun and it’s a flavorful addition
flood shot as a starting boon is bad
rustic vale
the difference is that beowulf gets flares instead of shots
They act differently
stone rune
beowulf is good with flood flare because they come out very fast
upper thorn
Ah yeah thats my question
rustic vale
Ah yeah thats my question
beowulf specifically has a different set of cast boons because the way it casts is different
Instead of having shots it has flares
upper thorn
Okok
stone rune
you can watch my super duper awesome amazing vod to see flood flare in action
upper thorn
Ok thank you
latent moon
Oh so that's why my build doesnt do much damage, because of flood shot
Flood flare on beo damage wise is fine until like elysium-ish but even then it's not bad
stone rune
rustic vale
Flood flare on beo damage wise is fine until like elysium-ish but even then it's...
They have floodshot
Which
stone rune
yeah flood shot is slow af to shoot out
latent moon
Yeah that's beo
upper thorn
Yeah but i currently have flood shot and not flare
stone rune
yep
upper thorn
Lol
upper thorn
Do you want a picture or what
latent moon
I mean a pic would be nice considering beo is only meant to have flares
stone rune
or more likely they aren’t on beo
latent moon
Or another classic beo bug
upper thorn
Pls just wait
rustic vale
Is shooting out floodshots?
rustic vale
🤨
upper thorn
It just comes out a lot of poseidons cast
I never choose poseidon cast so i don't know how it acts
rustic vale
Flood flare is significantly larger then floodshot btw
latent moon
Flares explode, shots shoot out like a projectile
rustic vale
I never choose poseidon cast so i don't know how it acts
I have a feeling this is actually just flood flare
now
stone rune
yeah
rustic vale
latent moon
I mean functionality wise it's definitely describing a flare
stone rune
maybe diff language or something
upper thorn
No
latent moon
The only thing we're debating is the actual name of the boon
upper thorn
English
stone rune
ok can we see pic
rustic vale
Yeah but do I want to give Jazz views
rustic vale
https://youtu.be/4NEoJWOAXOM
@upper thorn does this look like your experience of the cast
stone rune
https://youtu.be/t91u-ELZ4xg
rude
latent moon
Lmao
latent moon
Does imgur really take this long lmao
upper thorn
Yes
rustic vale
It being slower is sus
upper thorn
It says browse while its something
stone rune
Mines slower i think
do u mean no charged shot
upper thorn
I don't remember
stone rune
Does imgur really take this long lmao
usually it uploads literally instantly for me
rustic vale
it’s about the cast itself
upper thorn
If u want i can post to drive
rustic vale
Not the charge up for the bull rush
stone rune
put in victory screenshots if u need to
latent moon
usually it uploads literally instantly for me
Might be internet issue then?
stone rune
watch them have cod
rustic vale
Mines slower i think
Exclusively the cast happening is slower? The faster bullrush speed is thanks to charged shot
upper thorn
It won't be long now!
Please hang tight while your post finishes uploading, or browse while you wait. We'll notify you when it's done.
Lmao
I swear imgur
rustic vale
Literally on a sidequest rn before I fall asleep and your internet speed is keeping me awake in anticipation
dreamy flume
Anyone else here feel that hades shouldnt be an overwhelmingly positive game?
Ive just finished it completely
dreamy flume
this is 7/10 at best
stone rune
👍 ok why do you need to say that here
rustic vale
This is quite literally flood flare
stone rune
that is literally flood flare
rustic vale
Problem solved
stone rune
what is slow about it
rustic vale
We can go home
upper thorn
Idk I've never seen played beo with flood
stone rune
what the hell
rustic vale
Tf is up with your game
rustic vale
That shouldn’t say flood shot
stone rune
can i post this in speedcord
stone rune
i’m gonna
upper thorn
can i post this in speedcord
Yeah sure
upper thorn
Lmao 7 loaded casts on hera bow https://imgur.com/a/ucxcnQO
Look at this lmao
upper thorn
Ok gotcha
rustic vale
I didn’t use imgur at all
I just ripped the media links straight from what you sent me
dreamy flume
Is there anyway to make this game better?
dreamy flume
isnt it supposed to become more fun after youve beaten it
stone rune
Is there anyway to make this game better?
idk man play it better
dreamy flume
and everything is unlocked?
rustic vale
isnt it supposed to become more fun after youve beaten it
Yeah? It does
dreamy flume
theres only 4 levels
upper thorn
Is there anyway to make this game better?
Yeah sell the game and go buy minecraft or smth
Smh