#h1-discussion
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that's about the only good options here
the other option would be like idk
force dem for snurst or rav will
weird but not insane
is this good pace
yeah
highroll time
obv rd is good
we playing big now
yeah it's neat
uh
take hermes tho
because youll get arty midboss right
oh wait nvm
pool not full
is hermes movement a better time save than marked lol
got arty midboss anyways lmfao
dont think so to cshot
but it's fine
doesnt mess with fiery and the bonus dstrike can come in handy
also fills a core which is neat
i hate drakons
the one stone is big though
some of these
4 stones vs 3 is such a big deal lmao
yeah that tracks
i love onestoning lernie heads
well
323 exit
that would require of me
to average like
:(
this ely better be big
sub1 ely
dont mind me, just having a 23 second long chamber
mood
ely isn't a real biome
did you get the skips
no
i was in c33 at 44x and decided nope
who needs a sub7
me because i'm inconsistent as hell and i haven't done beo in weeks lol
i've only had like 3 or 4 sub7s
maybe i'll sub7 rama because i hate myself
Sub3
Or double it (2 sub3’s) and give it to Nyaanyaa
i find it incredibly based that ocaml has 2 unmodded world records on rama
for 50 yeah
lesson learnt don't underestimate poseidon's damage
All I remember is rama unmodded > rama modded for anyheat
ocaml didn't even do modded anyheat
Tbh I think anyone who plays on pc should probably install the dps meter mod so they can understand jolteds power
jolted is that good?
i rarely go for it
zamn
it's part of why eris can be so strong
i might be overthinking this
but is zeus legendary just free 40 damage with every hit
pfff
eris? what's that?
Am sure
for context, ocaml's unmodded is 5:26. best rama modded is 6:05
his 50 heat unmodded is 7:30, best modded (also rama) is 9:24
So it’s fair to say playing Rama unmodded is actually superior
💪
Indeed.
Rama is fun
i dont do speedruns yet
knowing when to release the shot early is such a big deal
actually aiming the special is one of my weak points lmao
doesnt it literally ricochet to enemies
i need to hit the wall or another enemy first
Left my switch at home when left for vacation can’t play Hades

Yeah but it’s ely, you either skip it or cry about it
Banas
banas
The big reason my 40 heat run died
You fool I brought my switch my phone my computer my doc for my switch AND A WATERMELON PILLOW
lmfao
Literally could’ve been 10 seconds
unarmored swordsmen or archers?
c34 do be like that
It looked like it’s be 10 seconds
It was like a full minute or 40 seconds or something
40 0 js??
bruh lmao
that's not uncommon
P sure it was cf2 instead
maybe
Don’t make me doubt myself
I’ll learn on monday night
Or tuesday night
you need a point in js cp or dc
if i have flood flare and hunter strike
and happen to get mirage shot
can i purge the attack?
this question applies to other stuff like most of the legendaries
Yes to the question, no to whether or not you should in this case
how broken would it be if guan yu had 50% reduced health by default
but titan blood increased how much life was stolen
by either 1 to 5 or the special attack speed
wow
i'm never playing ME again
only ME by ely
roll ares twice
no impending
shop chamber
no ddash
ddash in ely endshop and i misclicked on defiance
You can purge prereqs for boons as long as the duo isn't centered around it
Like you can't sell slicing shot and expect hunting blades to work with your base cast or any other one
sussy obama
what

why is this necessary
that's like the third time you've sent that at least
huh thats odd parting shot seems kinda bad seeing how i dont actually have backstab bonuses
i like dead memes and annoying people with dead memes that i like
I almost got parting shot on CoD once (I think they arent exclusive)
Anyone know if you can score a legendary boon from an Erebus gate? Or is it like Duos/Trials?
how long would an 100% take for Hades?
you can
i got the game
That’s all I needed. I’ll roll it. Thanks!
iirc erebus has a lower rate for legendary/duos
unless you have some sort of boosting rate
See this is the kind of stuff I wish were officially documented by the devs.
mood
tbf it's not by a large margin
and it's not really relevant if you're just playing casually
No, totally. Just would love an official source that says “You can’t get duo’s via god trails”, etc. 🙂
wiki
You think I’m here casually?! XD
i think reddit knows about the trials
😂
i had a person argue with me about this specific topic
but i do think the rates are on the wiki? i'm not entirely sure on that tho
nvm lmao
well some do at least
they said they had personally gotten a duo offered in a trial
i mean that’s the thing about reddit
some people know what’s going on
but some people don’t
and a random looking in the comments will probably upvote what sounds right
and this game is weird
a lot of possible combos makes it funky
How sussy is this game
there's literally an option for you to do the sussy with meg
More than that really. And it's a reoccurring event.
it's reoccuring
so occasionally you do the sussy
not jsut once
if than is there i'm easing off immediately
No you do the sussy with than
I don't think I've gotten the opportunity to do the sussy with Than
Apart from the first time
I completed something like 120 runs before hitting the chance to do it the second time
just luck I think
Rng
hmmmm i wonder what is the most broken aspect in the game
Beowulf
BeoBug
Bugwulf
what's a lucifer build
I would assume zeus attack aphrodite special and smair with maybe wine daddy aid
Triple bomb, big +% special, lightning strike and tidal dash
Explode bombs asap
Preferably aphro on the special
it took me over 500 hrs to get the 3way with than and meg
i think bc i usualy ignore than and didnt go to that area of the house very often
till i started chexking the records room more regularly
does it have to do with checking records? or is it just talking to than
It's just because Than is right next to the Admin Chamber.
thought so
what doesn't storm lightning affect?
zeus special, dash, cast if playing beowulf, call, static discharge, heaven vengeance
anything that doesnt says chain lightning
Yea
chain lightning cant get double strike, bolts cant get storm lightning
high voltage is also bolt only
I mean they enable lego so better than nothing
Lego?
legendary boon
pfff
yea
i would simply take dstrike
i always end up with storm
I mean yeah if you get the choice between the three of them then yes dstrike is a nobrainer
but RNG is cruel
what's the ranking for each chiron special?
no
it only procs once
or maybe twice? not sure
either way, chiron would be way better if the zeus special procced every arrow but there's a cooldown
oh like support fire
oh you mean aspect of charged skewer?
every spear but achilles is aspect of charged skewer
some just need exploding launcher first
how usable is Zeus cast on hera
Lel.
can you heal with guan you on lc4? i swear I've seen footage
i hate heavy weapons and lucifer in this game
i hate all of them hiddens
screw'em
i lost some speedrunning contest to her because i frickign died
to my sister i mean
absolutely infuriating
waste of blood
Yeah
Cursed slash/draining cutter/quick recovery also work
skill issue
tbf some of them aren't good
gilga and arthur aren't too great, esp in a speedrunning setting
beo only good heavy
guan yu, luci, and rama are harder to play
beo is prob the easiest to play and learn but still needs a learning curve
😂
F, better luck next time.
she's like
never spedran before
i died anyways
bananas was right about my skill issue i guess, but stil
screw heavies
(and lucifer)
Wait… So Guan Yu is a good LC4 exploit?
Pfffft.
"""good"""
no because using the spin in the first place is kinda not a great idea lol
With how little hp you are playing with and hl5 youa rent exactly being able to heal a lot
have you speedran lmao
And yeah spin isnt the definition of safe lol
well i had some bad attempts, but still i'm better than her at it
Nah, Zag just doesn’t know how use it properly, he’s too used to regular spears.
i lost still due to no skills
lol
what kind of speedrun was it
was it like a set of weapons or just like a 1 run thing
like, we each take a weapon seee who completes the game faster
basically
Ah, fair. But it’d be a good gimmick run for LC4.
and we gotta use the same weapon
6 aspects? or just 1
aspect up to choice?
she chose heavies for whatever (i suck at it)
eh it'd be okay but nothing spectacular
simply use hestia
so i didn't even complete the game, i just friggin died twice
lmao
she doesn't agree on using it
she doesn't like overpowered bolt action snipers
LOL
thats her problem
what aspects did she pick anyways
Ye, it’s for fun anyways. Preciate the clarification tho.
also mine actually, we use the same weapon
Damn, so she was better at Lucifer than you?
"hey lets speedrun"
"i'll fkin use lucifer to speedrun"
"aww crap"
lucifer isn't bad
not for speedrunning though, then it's bad
it's not easy to use tho tbh
maybe it's just me
yeah i think it's just you
also kinda dependent on triple bomb for speed but it's whatever
i have skill issue on that ig
this is why modded is so real
once i finish bounties I'll probably start modding
you can dash and still get the buff
simply dont die
^
how to not die:
step 1.
don't die
step 2.
not die
Isn’t it the only hidden that doesn’t slow down dps?
wdym by "slow down dps"
Lel, fair.
i would think six 300d casts would increase dps
Like Guan Yu and Arthur deals more damage just slower right?
oh i see
And I think the others too?
Ah, Beo isn’t slower? I swore it was.
beo literally has the modded wr lol
Huh, ok then, now I know.
beo is noticably slower but has the highest damage potential
^ See that’s what I was thinking.
luci's damage potential is just triple bomb basically
and it stays constant throughout the whole run
at that point it's your chaos additives
and jolted
luci is pretty minimalistic in terms of builds
granted it needs 3/4 cores but every rail wants that lol
just doesn't need a second hammer to rely on for good damage
eris and hestia for top end needs the second hammer, i'm pretty sure luci doesn't because i can't think of a second hammer that is actually important for luci lmao
Damn, thanks for the tips.
well like
every hidden aspect is slower, but like
how you play them determines the dps
if youre just gonna aspect of cshot beo and not use the cast, yeah it's gonna suck and be worse than chaos
if you're gonna special spam on rama, that's just delta chamber but on bow
the special is slower because you cant get rocket
Aww i just learned about Merciful End
and you have to detonate it
the atk is lightning strike, so there isn't any change for the atk (much)
I see what's all the heat with fists is coming from now
the duo that makes melee weapons good lol
heat fists is dio
ME needs like
5 boons
which is kind of hard to get??? on ap2
just be amb and get the boons
and also just is not safe
it's safe if they're dead
because you gotta be dashing near your enemies
but also
bosses:
when they said "heat" i think they meant like
literally em4 impossible
popularity
oh
lmao
spread fire ME is just better fists though
it's like heavy knuckle if the rotation was 18 hits long and it hit way faster
or colossus or whatevr
YOU CAN’T GET CLOCKETS?!???
Luci’s trash 0/10

i mean
looks pretty self explanatory to how you can't get clockets on luci lol
i will say cluster would make sense
but also
cluster would be cracked
i think there's a 4 bomb limit on luci
3
yeah
you can throw out a 4th but it'll det the first
F, no cluster too?
Yeah, true.
should i pick heavy knuckle or concentrated knuckle? the 2 main attacks boons i have are dio attack and hermes attack speed +30%
3rd option?
heavy knuckle is only for talos
sturdy is kinda meh
it's the only useful one lol
heavy isn't good, conc isn't good
conc resets on dash strikes
so it's negligible bonus damage
might as well take conc for some damage reduction
I just think you haven’t been hit enough tbh.
||btd6 reference||
wouldnt colossus be the one reducing damage?
ban
:maddxic
alright
i mean heavy knucle can be funny
with swift strike
but whatever lol i wouldn't take it
Ye, I like Heavy Knuckle cuz it’s fun but idk about its practicality.
Does conc work on d-atks or only atk?
Yeah… that’s why ion take conc.
How would conc be useful tbh? Cuz d-atks just seem better overall and the dmg doesn’t seem worth.
it's not lol
not every hammer is useful or good
heavy + conc on talos could be funny
real dash nova hours
no reason it wouldn't
because that would reset the combo right
Yeah.
That’s the sword one rii?
yeah
I thought World Splitter was the pure gimmick one tbh.
world splitter doesnt do anything negative unless you accidentally standing strike
What's some pros for Zagsword?
rush delivery
But isn't normal sword better?
dash striking is superior to standing striking on sword
and world splitter locks you into it’s animation if you accidentally standing strike
You get into a bad position
4 of the sword hammers are in some way negative for you and some are just neutral,
hoarding slash is the pure gimmick one
or you take it because your other hammers suck
Lel, true.
i would assume hoarding is better on non-Arthur
it doesn't really do anything
the damage is added after everything else
you're better off with anything else
Why?
doing damage
so long as you dont have another hangover core
give it a few poms and its great
even at no poms it's not bad lol
it's what base 23 at common?
more than your average hangover
yeah lmao
I thought it was 15
Oh cool.
i thought you were 12
Hi there. I'm a Game Design/Development university student in the process to making a game with similar themes and genres to Hades. As part of my research for this project I need to make a Budget for the game. Is there any information on the Budget for Hades?
same
Dps call like zeus
The 2 calls for dps are zeus and dio
Gotcha.
as opposed to calls that also deal damage?
the other calls have mediocre damage
As opposed to defensive calls and bad damage calls
Opposed to Ares, who doesnt have a call
but Artemis is my favorite :(
Artemis is just less dps, ares and poseidon are defense at cost of dps, dem is less dps but nice pick up, hades is also a dps call up there with dio and zeus on specific builds
wth decimal damage numbers
That’s literally linear scaling
Lightning strike goes 10 13 15 20
I know not all do
But the one we’re talking about right now is literally linear scaling
Rounding makes it not
1.5 increase per rarity
In game
Heeeello there, dear people!
Quick question - is there by accident a summary of all text lines from Hades characters? Gonna write a term paper and want to quote Sisyphos as pictured in Hades. Difficult to quote directly from the game itself though ^^
I remember something like that existing but I cant seem to find it anymore. Try asking in the modding discord, link is pinned in #self-promotion, I think you'll have better luck there.
Thank you, I'll check it out!
helloo
sword
piercing wave
cruel thrust
shadow slash
@stone rune
same run as last night with demeter's first boon.
im thinking piercing wave..
piercing wave
im genius
it's the only one that works on dash strikes
thanks
drunken dash ( rare )
premium vintage ( epic )
after party ( epic )
after party and vintage lookin good, always love a free nectar for than
vintage probably
sure
trippy shot?
i usually prefer having my cast inside someone rather than an outside thing
nvm
what keepsake is good for asphodel @stone rune
nvm i accidentallyclicked on
out
😐
if you hit quit you can pick a different one
WAIT I CAN QUIT
yeah
smart
127 tart exit rn
i will
mega based
yes
wait
no i do its for dem
okay
btw
miniboss dem over athena right
i picked dem
bc more non pommables and snurst and stuff
but also ddash
ok
?
? I DONT KNOW
ill ask speedcord then
rip
athena or dem
uh
either works
I don't actually take athena all that often
get atk
okay
I'm probably gonna try a fists merciful end build though
UGH
NO ATTAKC
i hate the witches circle with a shortrange weapon
THAN
YIPPE
double nova
dash nova
world splitter
2nd hammer
sword, same run
@stone rune
double nova
oki
dash nova and world splitter actively make the game worse
do u know sword dps rotation
no
so
for sword
the way you wanna deal damage is special -> dash strike x2
without standing striking
dash strikes deal more damage and come out faster
so world splitter essentially makes you stuck in one area if you accidentally standing strike while dash nova makes it really hard to keep up damage to a single target cause you keep hopping around
okay
i love beating up the bull while he does 7 damage the entire encounter 😊
" you think you can just walk away from me? "
" its more of a brisk jog
"

blood
titan blood?
yeah
boring
it's like the single most useful resource in the game
Well sometimes… He drops Darkness. 
me when the sack isnt in the normal tunnels 
i already used my death defiance's
PLEASE
END MY MISERY
😐 its fr in the last one
are u deadahh
GOD
DARN
" theres the sack, finally "
GOD IM FED UP
REALLY CERB 😭
ohgod my wrist hurts
off to fight my father!
2nd phase 2/3 thru
😭
NOOO
i wwas so close
WHY IS MEG IN MY ROOM
@stone rune do you have the codex filled
well i play on a max save lol
so
yes?
Does max save have erebus done
WHATS EREBUS
but i think on my save i have everything except the legendary chaos fish

Ik I have max codex
have you escaped yet
tis?
what the hell
I have a feeling it’s persephone
it should be tis
she's not chthonic
get in my book you braindead murderer
also
wait
what happens if you give hades nectar
is the wiki missing her
It should be tis
yeah i thought so
but i ctrl f the whole codex on the wiki and no pers
also tis is a prereq for than
yeah so you should have met tis right
i have
wait
Is tis elsewhere in your codex
shes not in my dex
it is tis
its tis but shes not there
even tho ive met her
ok so more questions
in " underworld "
chaos isnt the last one
?? theres more realms?
Remember when I said erebus earlier
yeah what the hell
unless i maxed erebus doing boonless mirrorless
🧍♂️
Rewards are a stage up, but if you get hit once you lose the reward
has a heat minimum for entry
None of that should make sense
I mean
should i keep playing hades or rest
Rest = refreshed and better at Hades the next time you play
amazing
🧠
since hades is an offline game can i have it running in the bg without consequences ?
mhnghmg
It’s not exactly using any computing power for aftive calculations
But it existing is eating it up
okay
just because it's offline doesnt mean the game runs on nothing lol
thanks
im not a tech dude
neither am i
lmao that was never implied but aight
i mean the 200% from charged skewer is nice
so could
heart rend isn't uncommon i dont think
because dash strikes into the special
deadly reversal seems nice but youd probably want the aph attack right
well
eh
divine strike is fine
it's not a bad % tbf
and getting a higher crit chance is still good
forcing 3 gods though
dont force all 3 
just pick one
it also isn't gonna mesh well
guan yu doesn't have an inbuilt crit chance so you can't do something funky like, true shot to open duos
doing aphro atk, athena special, and arty cast on nem is fine because of the inbuilt crit chance
do gy dash strikes come out the same as normal
wdym
like
it's just like
so
30 damage
on arthur the dash strikes are slow and weird
on gy are the dash strikes the same as the other aspects
sea storm isn't a great duo lol
it's alright
never really worth aiming for unless you're doing dash only
or you dont have anything better to do lol
you mean super soaker isn't meta????
oh yeah and super soaker
i like going for it on beo after i already get mirage because at least it makes zeus useful lol
thunder dash to get jolted is an idea that exists, idk if it's a good one but it does exist
might do 32 talos
based
wait im doing it
js3 dc2 cp2
EZ pact
They do 10 more damage
god my timer is so bad
survival room simulator
let's see how this goes lmao
What’s the best sword overall (not but u need specific build that’s hard to get)
nemesis
did you know js3 and 74% roiling is bad in a room with speeder cloner witches
i'm only in c4 lol
Js4 js4
i gave up lmao
was horrbile
new run tho
decent so far
it falls apart in ely tho and i just got to aspho lol
i stopped for a bit because i have an essay and 25 questions due
lmfao
https://imgur.com/a/12JWkSz another win
I feel like I'm now getting wins more consistently
also Hades said see you at home instead of some other insult when he died
when your father decides to not let you be fatherless anymore
js3 doesn't really feel that bad
I decided to remove all other heat modifiers and just take js3 to get rewards for 3 heat and it hasn't really been all that terrible
I was expecting it to be far worse
Js3 is so unnecessarily hard for 3 heat
i just had a 90 second chamber
It's not hard tbh it's more tedious
For most players, normal rooms are easy to deal with so js3 doesn't feel like much of an obstacle
Becomes more of an issue at higher heat tho ofc
talos 
Skill issue
i gave up in heroes because it was so annoying and bad
Just use aspect of cshot
so, double edge is op
what about double nova?
hammer is supernova, double nova and piercing wave
piercing wave
Double nova isn’t too great because of how easy it is to dash out before the second wave triggers
arty cast is hella fun wth
Pauper moment
wow this is getting quite fun humiliating poor old hades here
I went from being in danger to becoming the danger
jesus christ
that run was
certainly something
i literally got 3 grasps by c16
but also 0 scaling
i couldnt even 2stone lernie heads with mirage
ok I don't remember alecto shooting 4 blade discs before
I think... u dealt a lot of damage lol.
no way my damage is almost always crap
That is how Alecto's beyblades work rii? @stone rune
i think if you phase fast enough they might last
let me check
idk
i don’t pay attention
i think at one point during rage she spits like 2 or 3 of them
Right?
ok just got cluster
hopefully i get rockets
ah thats a shame i didnt get rockets but cluster is still really damn busted lol
Clockets is rare
cluster first makes it marginally more likely
I don't trust anvils
you can savescum anvils
You do it when you have trash
how do you savescum this game
you can quit out after buying an anvil and only an anvil
and it won't save the anvil buying
and then you do some rng manips
and just keep doing that
rng manips is like, casting or hitting summon
i keep not getting merciful end
have you tried getting it
i have tried
unfortunate
i got it once but that run is bad becuz 4 min fury sister is a bad time
wth
ok i want ur luck
gimme gimme
yeah lemme see what screenshot did i record that run on
Just savescum them
That’s definitely fun and not time consuming at all