h1-discussion

[jovial forum]

screw you giys /nm

i just saw two hammer guys kissing

[rustic vale]

then he tricked Hades into letting him go back so he could arrange his funeral iirc

[stone rune]

shackle GY time

[jovial forum]

breaching bull, empowering flight, or sudden rush

im thinking breaching bull

[stone rune]

depends

1st or 2nd hammer

[jovial forum]

1st

[stone rune]

well

breaching and sudden both good

sudden gives you more mobility

[jovial forum]

breaching is on my fates

[rustic vale]

Empowered flight means you had to use your special on shield which is

[stone rune]

empowered flight sucks

[rustic vale]

never the case outside of zeus

[stone rune]

you use it sometimes in tart on beo

[rustic vale]

and on zeus it only works once it comes back

[jovial forum]

im gonna go breaching

[stone rune]

it'll one hit witches

breaching is fine

[jovial forum]

yippe

[rustic vale]

Ok but would rather funny charged flight beo

[stone rune]

ok so like

why the hell does shackle gy deal 0 damage

oh wait

it's special

[rustic vale]

shackle gy does 90 damage

[stone rune]

90, 0, same diff

[rustic vale]

True

[stone rune]

i forgot 100% is less on special than atk

[jovial forum]

pom or charon ?

[rustic vale]

Only 1 digit difference

[stone rune]

shop generally

[jovial forum]

i only have 159

[rustic vale]

charon means you don’t have to waste any time or hp

[stone rune]

that's enough for a boon

[jovial forum]

yes it is

UGHHH

ITS ARES

[rustic vale]

don’t take it

[stone rune]

well then dont buy it

[jovial forum]

should i get the other stuff

[stone rune]

what is it

heart and gyro?

[jovial forum]

theres darkness
or

centaur heart

[stone rune]

oh

[rustic vale]

Either way you didn’t end up wasting time or hp

[stone rune]

idk

[jovial forum]

mmehh

[stone rune]

if you want darkness thenf ine

[jovial forum]

ill grab the darkness

25 coin is nothing

[royal widget]

i usually only buy hearts when i have less than 125

[jovial forum]

meg here i come

[rustic vale]

Mfw I realised that darkness regularly costs 25

[jovial forum]

what does

mfw mean

[rustic vale]

Cf2

[jovial forum]

????

[rustic vale]

My face when

[jovial forum]

oh

ok

[rustic vale]

[stone rune]

are you cf2 brained

[rustic vale]

Cf2 brained

I don’t want to talk about it

[jovial forum]

meg is

mwa

[royal widget]

ong

[rustic vale]

I decided to switch down to cf1 but I still thought darkness was 45

[jovial forum]

i love killing meg

i love meg

love u meg <3

[rustic vale]

I love killing meg
I love killing

[jovial forum]

grah

asphodel my HATRED

OH HY

spoil me

does asphodel ever turn green again?

wasnt it
lava
cus persephone left?

[royal widget]

?

[rustic vale]

no

[jovial forum]

???

[rustic vale]

Never

[jovial forum]

as asphodel always hot

wait what

what am i on ab

[royal widget]

lol

[jovial forum]

anyway

is hades hard when youre high

[rustic vale]

Asphodel has never been lava

[jovial forum]

!??!/???

WHAT

DONT GASLIGHT ME

[rustic vale]

it’s underground

[jovial forum]

[royal widget]

high heat or like . . .

[jovial forum]

no.

m
marijuana

[rustic vale]

It’s winter on the surface cuz persephone isn’t with dem, asphodel is not magma filled because persephone left

[jovial forum]

ok asphodel time

[stone rune]

this is the second god damn time

i've rolled arty endshop twice

and gotten no mirage

[jovial forum]

huh?

[rustic vale]

No mirage shot

[jovial forum]

anyone got any good playlists to listen to

[stone rune]

hold on

[jovial forum]

while
pplaying ahdes

[stone rune]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5uiP3ZruvbhGTx4sUbDnly?si=2f2ce1ebac8d4055

[jovial forum]

wonderful

[stone rune]

literally what's the chance of that

[jovial forum]

my thanks

[stone rune]

does legacy even do anything

[rustic vale]

https://youtu.be/3GRKJ87S5cI

[jovial forum]

i hate you

[stone rune]

ive lsitened to this playlist for all my pbs

[rustic vale]

12% per boon option iirc since it’s from a shop

[stone rune]

coincidence? i think not

[stone rune]

WHAT

[royal widget]

i was listening to out of Tartarus on loop while playing a while ago

[stone rune]

WHAT

SHOPS ARE DIFFERENT?

[rustic vale]

or maybe it’s 12% overall

No

[stone rune]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS MINIBOSSES

oh

[rustic vale]

It’s every boon other then minibosses

[royal widget]

i thought it was styx

[stone rune]

im on legacy

so it'd be 22

[rustic vale]

To my understanding

Also I don’t know if that means that the 300 obol boons in endshop

count as miniboss odds

[jovial forum]

hermes or obol

im gonna pick hermes

[rustic vale]

Hermes

100%

[jovial forum]

hermes is so cute fr

[stone rune]

hermes big number

[rustic vale]

I believe hermes gets taken over every other option most of the time

[stone rune]

first hammer beo

[rustic vale]

Most of the time

[stone rune]

actually first hammer a lot

first hammer big

prob less on unm

[rustic vale]

Some aspects care about first hammer less

[stone rune]

rail overall first hammer is really big

sword too

[jovial forum]

evasion, haste, or quick recovery?

[stone rune]

rarity?

[jovial forum]

all common except evasion which is rare

[stone rune]

idk

whatever u want

[jovial forum]

qonderful

[stone rune]

all kinda suck

[rustic vale]

I would take evasion

[stone rune]

i'd prob take recovery

[jovial forum]

i picked quick recov cus it was on my uhhh

thingy

[rustic vale]

Fated list

fair

[jovial forum]

dances

ew i have posideon

better be worth the barge

[stone rune]

tdash is big

[jovial forum]

nope :(

i got uh

sunken treasure, flood shoot, or pos. aid. all rare.

im thinking aid

[stone rune]

flood shot is good

[rustic vale]

2nd highest flourish +%

[jovial forum]

ok flood shot it is

[stone rune]

worst atk %

[jovial forum]

i love eurydice

[rustic vale]

arte

[jovial forum]

my bf thinks shes hot

[rustic vale]

Refreshing nectar is usually the play

[jovial forum]

really?

i pick pom porridge

[stone rune]

hermes rarity is huge

[rustic vale]

it really depends on your current boons

Well

29/30 times it’s refreshingnnextar

[jovial forum]

hmN

hmm

hmmmm

[rustic vale]

The 1/30 times take it anyways

[jovial forum]

uh

ill take nectar

you guys probably right

i love her sm

just gonna have her sing in the bg

" chatting with eurydice " YES

god I LOVE discord's activity status

[royal widget]

damn
i usually go rarity

[jovial forum]

hammer or zeus

im thinking hammer

[royal widget]

build?

[jovial forum]

none

[rustic vale]

unless you want to rng manip for rd rarity

[jovial forum]

im gonna pick hammer

[royal widget]

i meant which weapon

[jovial forum]

aegis

anyway

oh god

trial of the gods
zeus or dionysus 😭 @rustic vale @stone rune

[barren cedar]

i just got back into hades after escaping my omori phase

and now im rusty-

i cant even do heat lvl 20

[royal widget]

for trials i found it only matters if you don't fight Poseidon/aphro/arty

as in pick them

[jovial forum]

grah

[stone rune]

dio

or zeus

both ez

[jovial forum]

" somewhere in chaos "

gonna stya here a bit :3

[rustic vale]

Both

[jovial forum]

idk ik the gods arent mad after i do it but i avoid picking the trial cus its just 😭 so sad

[rustic vale]

Avoid trial because it’s time loss

[stone rune]

not a speedrun

[rustic vale]

And annoying

[jovial forum]

i do not GIVE a FRICK

about time

[stone rune]

2 boons can be good

[jovial forum]

:3 ill sit here for 30 minutes hanging out with chaos, and eurydice

[rustic vale]

Eury is free

Timer stops

[jovial forum]

yippe

[royal widget]

i wonder why timer doesn't stop in shop

[rustic vale]

Intentional

[royal widget]

hm

[rustic vale]

same w/ chaos

[jovial forum]

YAY!!

[rustic vale]

But it’s such a minimal amount of time

[jovial forum]

i love chaos

theyre so cool

[rustic vale]

👍

[jovial forum]

drunken flourish ( epic )
dio aid ( rare )
or peer pressure? ( rare )

im so bad at making choices

[latent moon]

What's the build so far

[jovial forum]

none!

ITS RANDOM

[latent moon]

Well what do you have

[stone rune]

this is shield right

[jovial forum]

ueys!

[latent moon]

Because I don't have any context

[jovial forum]

same run as earlier

[stone rune]

drunken strike

[jovial forum]

why i rely on jazz

strike?

[stone rune]

why did u take drunken strike

[jovial forum]

????

[stone rune]

well

if it’s not aid

and you have zapdash

[latent moon]

Is peer pressure the one that spreads hangover to other enemies or no

[stone rune]

and it’s not flourish

[stone rune]

yeah

[latent moon]

Ew

[stone rune]

but you have hangober

[latent moon]

This is all bad

[stone rune]

the only other hangober source

[jovial forum]

my attack is hangover

[stone rune]

is drunken strike

yeah

drunken strike

[latent moon]

Hangover override is kinda cringe

Is this zag shield or what

[jovial forum]

tyea

[latent moon]

Just take the special but never use it tbh

Sell it asap

[jovial forum]

grah

can i take the aid?

[latent moon]

No

[jovial forum]

why??

[latent moon]

Hangover override

[jovial forum]

im

gonna take it

[latent moon]

It'll take the last value used instead of highest value

So it's gonna be literally useless

But okay sure take it

[jovial forum]

I NEED IT

[latent moon]

For what

[jovial forum]

theseus

( i have anxiety )

[latent moon]

??

But hangover override will literally make it pointless

None of the options here benefit you

They're all useless or harmful

[jovial forum]

sob

[stone rune]

i mean

[latent moon]

Taking special is prob the least useless because you don't use it so it's not a waste

[stone rune]

peer pressure isn’t negative

[latent moon]

Can be

[stone rune]

how

it does more damage

[latent moon]

If the hangover spread value is less

[stone rune]

pretty sure it deals 8x

[stone rune]

it’s not lol

it’s bugged

unless that bug was old

[latent moon]

Huh

What's the bug do

[stone rune]

iirc it does 8x damage to normal and 4x to bosses

peer pressure just sucks cause it takes 4 god damn seconds

[latent moon]

That doesn't seem right

Other people would've mentioned it

Specifically speedcord

[stone rune]

well peer pressure sucks

[jovial forum]

im gonna die in the middle of elysium

[stone rune]

it’s never worth taking

[jovial forum]

god imawful!

[stone rune]

unless ofc your other options are neg

[latent moon]

Considering how much damage it does? How is it bad

[stone rune]

so it doesn’t really matter

[stone rune]

it literally takes 4 seconds

[latent moon]

If it's really that multiplier

[stone rune]

and can be overridden

[latent moon]

Right the override

So it's useless

[stone rune]

yeah

but not useless and filling a slot

[latent moon]

Yeah it all sucks

[stone rune]

do you think if a new super game breaking bug was found they’d patch it

like you could just warp to dad or something

[jovial forum]

i love breaking all the pots 🧍‍♂️ and begging for heals

[stone rune]

are you using feather duster

[jovial forum]

yes

is it ethical to farm exalted

[latent moon]

At this point prob not lol

[stone rune]

source code gone 🤷

robtop moment

[jovial forum]

grahhh

i bet theseus and asterius kiss

:( i just know it

[rustic vale]

8x normal, 2x bosses

And only if it’s the first stack

[stone rune]

oh

same diff

[rustic vale]

Sorry I wasn’t specific

I meant (“2x normal” to bosses)

[rustic vale]

“If Peer Pressure applies hangover to an enemy that does not have any stacks of hangover, the hangover damage will be 8x (only 2x against bosses) what it should be” -myself at somepoint, either a direct or paraphrasing from the bug document

[jovial forum]

hi jazz

[rustic vale]

Yes

[rustic vale]

check my message above ^

[latent moon]

kinda cringe

so at no point should peer pressure ever be taken lmao

[rustic vale]

yup

The enemy should be dead by that point anyways

[latent moon]

"not negative" it's just neutral i guess but also wack

[rustic vale]

it’s free obols

Uc fodder

[stone rune]

and it doesn’t worthlessly fill a slot

it just worthlessly fills a pom slot

[radiant vale]

sussy obama

[radiant vale]

ok nah 💀 they disagree on a variety of things

is just that asterius is so unreasonably loyal

[jovial forum]

its canon im supergiant

[royal widget]

asterius is so polite i love him

[stone rune]

not too fond of beyblade

[jovial forum]

heartbreak strike ( rare )
crush shot
or passion dash

aegis
first boon

[stone rune]

strike

[jovial forum]

this goes a lot better when i ask yall ( last 2 lone tries i died by meg )

ok

[stone rune]

also if you ever see charged shot hammer take it

[jovial forum]

i did

[stone rune]

this run?

[jovial forum]

yes

[stone rune]

instant win

best hammer in the game

charge it off a dash strike

[jovial forum]

deadly strike ( epic, replace aphrodites )
true shot
artemis aid

[stone rune]

uh

whats the % on that strike

probably true shot

[dire tendon]

why not go for the funny meme call though

[stone rune]

it’s shield

[jovial forum]

39% on artemis, replaces 79% on aphrodite

[stone rune]

you’ll get like a full call off on dad

[jovial forum]

73

sorry

[stone rune]

yeah true shot

[dire tendon]

just go for true shot

[jovial forum]

koay

grahh

divine flourish
divine dash
athena's aid

all epic, all needed on my list.

[dire tendon]

what weapon is this

[jovial forum]

aegis

[dire tendon]

aspect?

[jovial forum]

none

[dire tendon]

ddash then

nice and consistent

[jovial forum]

thats what i was thinking

sigh

divine flourish
athenas aid
brilliant riposte

all common

[stone rune]

riposte i guess

[jovial forum]

okk

[stone rune]

opens lego for funny

[jovial forum]

why is alecto so EASY

deadass took 64/75 health and died in less than a minute

bffr

im on run 13

i HOPE i see than soon cus im going INSANE

[rose trench]

https://imgur.com/a/RvaDk6t

huh thats odd i've never seen this before

[jovial forum]

for some reason i aM SUSPICIOUS

[rose trench]

I also got Fish Man's legendary boon

it's useless

[jovial forum]

posideon or aphrodite

[rose trench]

poseidon

[jovial forum]

ok

[stone rune]

ok then

[rose trench]

why would you think i'm talking about aphrodite anyways

[stone rune]

no

they were asking which room to take

[jovial forum]

😐

[rose trench]

damn missed the conversation

[stone rune]

i assume

[rose trench]

my bad

[jovial forum]

yes

yes i was

[rose trench]

im sorry

[jovial forum]

ITS OK

NO ITS NOT UR FAULT

its my fault for assuming u knew what was going on 😭

[stone rune]

wait

gy me starts athena?

that's crazy

i guess it makes sense though

[radiant vale]

sussy

[jovial forum]

@stone rune
tempest flourish ( epic )
aid ( rare )
hydraulic might ( rare )

[stone rune]

might

[jovial forum]

kay

my boyfriend when hes high

" pizza roll "

WHAT

is it just me or do the realms seem
shorter?

[stone rune]

?

[dire tendon]

Aspho is shorter than tart

If that’s what you’re asking

[jovial forum]

HUH

thats
why?

why is that a thing

[stone rune]

tart is c1-c14, aspho is c16-c24, ely is c26-c36

second to last is always a free room

[jovial forum]

which keepsake should i use thru elysium

[stone rune]

in ely you typically will use a defensive keepsake

[jovial forum]

feather duster does me good

[stone rune]

usually acorn

[jovial forum]

heh

i dont got that

[stone rune]

tooth or collar also work

[jovial forum]

wonderful

[stone rune]

collar is better if you have all your dds

oh wait you dont have maxed

[jovial forum]

nope

[stone rune]

tooth is probably better

[jovial forum]

i picke dtooth

yippe! elysium!

PHOHH

OHHHH!!

@stone rune JAZZ

OMG

[stone rune]

yeah

[jovial forum]

RYRAHHRAYRAHRHAHA

YHAN

THAN

[stone rune]

cool

[jovial forum]

!! DEATH APPROACHES

YIPPE

im so happy

i f

freaking
finalLY

I WANNA DIE JUST TO GO SEE HIM

[radiant vale]

daedalussy hammer

[radiant vale]

thanos

[radiant vale]

you're definitely gonna nectar spam him right

he'll say he's gonna stash 'em

[jovial forum]

YES I AM

HIPPE

stims

I LOVE THAN

ARAARAHHRAHAHGAHGHJDSAUHH

[radiant vale]

he's gonna stash 'em

[jovial forum]

i beat the heros 😐 than wait for me 2 die rq

[radiant vale]

or you're gonna just romance him

[jovial forum]

@stone runewhat keepsake

[jovial forum]

of course i am

[stone rune]

have you used your tooth

[radiant vale]

get pat's or skellys i think

[jovial forum]

no

[stone rune]

keep it

[jovial forum]

kay

im so happy

thanks for all your help jazz

[stone rune]

np

always happy to dodge homework

[jovial forum]

HEH

[radiant vale]

i thought you're gonna go all 'HeStIa!1!!"

[jovial forum]

hey if u want help on that im here

[stone rune]

literally why

[radiant vale]

that's literally you

[stone rune]

hestia isn't a keepsake

[radiant vale]

you're gonna recommend it anyway

sooner or later

when the question "which is a good/best aspect" comes up inevitably

or

when you feel like it lol

[jovial forum]

why DO vermins carry coin 🤔

[royal widget]

Beowulf :)

[jovial forum]

FIRST FIGHT WITH HADES

wish me luck 😭

[radiant vale]

just duplicate yo save file 💀

[jovial forum]

😐

no

[radiant vale]

i do that

[jovial forum]

died on the second phase

ugh

THAN!

NOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOO HE WAS TALKING TO HYPNOS

NOOO

THAN WHYY I NEED TO GIVE YOU NECTAR 😭

[radiant vale]

i told u to duplicate ur save 💀

anyways

than is hyp's bro, so that's reasonable

[jovial forum]

i
i know.

i know.

but im hotter 🙄

[mint coral]

hypnos is funnier

[stone rune]

pretty sure this is what happens after your first run with than

[jovial forum]

TH-

huhhHGHJNngm

jazz

1 titan blood for 300 gems?

wait

200

no 300

[stone rune]

sure

[jovial forum]

SURE

ok

[radiant vale]

no like i was talking about his death on

hades boss

[mint coral]

[jovial forum]

nyx
let ur son kiss me

[radiant vale]

unpossible

[jovial forum]

hey guys will than like it if i made the house cool for him

[radiant vale]

you must turn in 6 nektarr and 3 amBROsia

[jovial forum]

3!??!?!

JEEZ THAN

ur a work

[radiant vale]

yEs!1!!

[jovial forum]

worth it

[radiant vale]

chill

for each run completion where the heat gauge is full

you get the bounty rewards again

[jovial forum]

i know

i am not new

[radiant vale]

i must've spent 6 and stil got 6 more

[jovial forum]

thank you

[mint coral]

be prepared for dusa

[jovial forum]

dusa is asexual and aromantic

so

im already prepared

[radiant vale]

dusussy is not interested

[mint coral]

i mean on ambrosia gifts lmao

[jovial forum]

she still wanna be friends tho <3

[radiant vale]

be friends ig

[jovial forum]

wow

anyway

[radiant vale]

she'll give ambro back

[jovial forum]

WOAH

dope

[radiant vale]

but you can also let her keep the super nectar

if you dont need that ambrosia

[rose trench]

oh btw what is poseidon good for? I'm not really too sure

[jovial forum]

being handsome

[rose trench]

ik his dash is really good for straight up damage but idk what more beyond that

[rose trench]

literally all of the gods are

[jovial forum]

I KNOW

also
uh

why does zagreus talk to his weapons

[radiant vale]

beowulf speedrunning

[jovial forum]

does he get that lonely in the underworld?

[radiant vale]

they're somewhat sentient. they dont absorb titan blood for no reason

[rose trench]

how does that work

what does beowulf even do?

[jovial forum]

again

[latent moon]

tidal dash, hydraulic might, resource farming, flood flare for beowulf

[radiant vale]

it deals big damage combined with cast basciallt

[jovial forum]

im getting a headache from the underworld

[latent moon]

hera, but instead of launching the cast, the cast explodes into a flare

[radiant vale]

thanos' toes

[jovial forum]

😐

got the whole squad laughing

[radiant vale]

totally bro

[jovial forum]

@stone rune first demeter boon
frost flourish
crystal beam
or minstrel dash?
all common except last which is rare

[radiant vale]

also demeter's boons aren't good on demeter fists at all

[stone rune]

hey

[radiant vale]

dont take crystal beam

[stone rune]

i think something got autocorrected there

[jovial forum]

huh

wha did

[radiant vale]

minstrel dash, hmmmm

interesting

[jovial forum]

im getting deja vu

sorry

[rustic vale]

mistral dash

Which weapon

[radiant vale]

it's mistral dash

[stone rune]

but take dash

[jovial forum]

ok

[latent moon]

meme beam would've been funny

[stone rune]

base shield

[rustic vale]

dash

[radiant vale]

true

base shield is amazing

[jovial forum]

n
no

[rustic vale]

Base shield = chaos shield

[jovial forum]

no.

[rose trench]

is hydraulic might that good? it's only a 10 second buff

[stone rune]

did you cahnge

[jovial forum]

uh

yea

[stone rune]

i thought you only did shield

[jovial forum]

sword

[stone rune]

oh

[jovial forum]

no

:(

its ok

[stone rune]

flourish would have been better then

[rustic vale]

…flourish

[jovial forum]

auh

what

[stone rune]

you can give up

[jovial forum]

do you want me to reset

ok

[rustic vale]

Frost flourish rather then dash for sword

[jovial forum]

bjut

[stone rune]

it doesn't kill you

[jovial forum]

i got a fish

UGH

[stone rune]

oh

ok

[rustic vale]

Which room was it

[jovial forum]

1

[stone rune]

oh

then you can reset

[rustic vale]

Reset

[jovial forum]

UGhaj

[stone rune]

it'll still be there

giving up keeps your seed

[jovial forum]

IT WILL

yippe

[rustic vale]

Resetting puts you back into the same seed

[radiant vale]

when you speedrun, and you can beat a room in 10 seconds or sooner, that boost is necessary

[rustic vale]

uh

[stone rune]

10 seconds is a long time no matter what lol

[jovial forum]

yes it is

[rustic vale]

Hydralic might is always good

[jovial forum]

especially in hades

[stone rune]

and room clear time is a lot more based on what room it is

[rustic vale]

Even if you aren’t speedrunning

[jovial forum]

so which one ami picking

flourish

[stone rune]

not every chamber is less than 10s

[rustic vale]

But the first 10 seconds of the room are the most important anyways

[stone rune]

flourish

[radiant vale]

me who enjoys stalling:

[latent moon]

your longest rooms at that point should last like 20 seconds

and if it's 20 sec it's because of bad enemy waves

[jovial forum]

NO FISH

[latent moon]

not because you can't kill them

[jovial forum]

THERES NO FREAKING FISH

[stone rune]

ely:

[jovial forum]

THERES NO FISH SPOT

[rustic vale]

Even if you aren’t speedrunning, the buff from hydraulic might is active for the most important part of your run

[stone rune]

did you give up

[jovial forum]

YOU ALL lIED

[rustic vale]

🤨

No we didn’t

[jovial forum]

yes???

[latent moon]

did you change anything

[jovial forum]

no

[latent moon]

like, weapon, keepsake, etc

[jovial forum]

no

[rustic vale]

Did you kill yourself to an enemy or go into the menu and hit give up

[jovial forum]

i gave up

[royal widget]

summons are unbuffable right

[latent moon]

wdym

[rustic vale]

Then it should be there

[jovial forum]

ITS NOT

ITS FUC

ts not

og well

[rustic vale]

We aren’t lying, reseting gives you the same seed

and that includes fish, or chaos in chamber 1

[jovial forum]

wheres my fish

:(

[rose trench]

ah ok must be a skill issue then lol

[royal widget]

cornsider this
i just hit myself with eris special
does meg deal +75%d?

[stone rune]

or you can get aspho'd

[royal widget]

i think not

[stone rune]

meg will deal more with gilga

[latent moon]

well speedrunning wise, that'd be the longest ever
even outside of speedrunning, it's still a good damage boost

[jovial forum]

holy crud

[latent moon]

oh no

[royal widget]

OMG

[latent moon]

it only works with like

debuffs that make them take more damage

like sweet surrender

[jovial forum]

i just switched my special keybind to ^ on the scroll wheel

[latent moon]

and gilga maim

[royal widget]

mmm

[jovial forum]

this just got 10x easier

[rustic vale]

Stupid question but
It was the first chamber right? The one you drop into at the start of your run

[stone rune]

cause you're not dealing the damage

[jovial forum]

i love keybinds

[rustic vale]

that the fish was in

[jovial forum]

yes

it was at that little edge spot

[radiant vale]

ssussy obama

[rustic vale]

That shouldn’t’ve happened then

[royal widget]

swapping cast and special keybinds was the best decision ever for me

[jovial forum]

i didnt change anything

[jovial forum]

my cast is m2

[royal widget]

only hurts a bit on hera/beo

[jovial forum]

my fight is m1 and my special is m3

all in one place

where it should be

hey guys srs question

[rustic vale]

Afaik you didn’t change anything, and you can’t change your seed by casting/summoning or killing skelly and the like prerun so

[jovial forum]

WILL i go to jail

[rustic vale]

Idk wth happened there

[royal widget]

scroll wheel is an interesting idea
i might try that

[jovial forum]

ITS??

amazing?

[stone rune]

???????

[jovial forum]

i always forget my special is a thing

[rose trench]

what

[jovial forum]

??

what

just answer the question

[stone rune]

this is a hades discord

[jovial forum]

is it illegal
yes it is
nvm

[jovial forum]

oh

mb

didnt know
it was
against the RULES

[stone rune]

i'd assume that's against rule 2

[rose trench]

oh btw is heavy knuckle a good hammer

[stone rune]

yeah

[jovial forum]

ok fine

sorry

[rustic vale]

on like talos

[latent moon]

wait what

heavy knuckle is bad

[stone rune]

oh

i thought it was good

[latent moon]

you punch slower

[rose trench]

nah demeter

[stone rune]

isn't that the one where you do the 3 hits

[latent moon]

yeah

[rustic vale]

Bad bad on demeter

[stone rune]

that's bad?

[latent moon]

yeah

[rustic vale]

It slows your attack speed

[rose trench]

yeah that was the tradeoff I was checking for

[stone rune]

oh on dem sure

[rustic vale]

Less dem special

[latent moon]

i mean it's not great anywhere either tbh

[rustic vale]

It’s better on talos since you got the innate +50%

[royal widget]

i feel like demspect benefits most from hammers

[radiant vale]

i love cows moo mo moo

[latent moon]

unless you start heavy knuckle in c1 and want to build around the 40 base hits with % modifiers

but like

why

[stone rune]

fists are just worse spread fire

[jovial forum]

does anyone know of a thingy for pc to make your mouse ( on screen ) look like the one in hades

[latent moon]

yeah pretty much

[jovial forum]

cus i want my perm mouse to be hades themed
please

[stone rune]

doesn't have enough icons

[jovial forum]

😨 WHAT

you mean im NEVER gonna have a HADES MOUSE

[latent moon]

yeah mainly because the special on dem is actually used unlike zag and talos lmao

[jovial forum]

😭 wa!

[stone rune]

talos:

[royal widget]

WHAT

[stone rune]

i guess talos isn't the actual special

[rose trench]

ooh double strike seems nice

I have lightning on my m1

[stone rune]

double strike is bugged to be really good

wait

[royal widget]

may as well use poseidon on talos special

[latent moon]

well i guess lol

[jovial forum]

[rustic vale]

For a period of time my fists pb was a talos build focused on getting heavy knuckle with +% attack but I just never got hammers

[latent moon]

it exists

[stone rune]

double strike doesn't apply to lightning strike

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1022844809855127572/IMG_2211.jpg

[stone rune]

that's chain lightning

[latent moon]

i mean ping pong is funny but it's not a goodo build

[jovial forum]

whats a gamma cleaner

[rustic vale]

it’s delta wraith now

[jovial forum]

😨 13 minute run

11 MINUTE RUN?

20 HEAT??

[stone rune]

lol

[latent moon]

lol

[jovial forum]

16K DARKNESS??

WHAT THE HELL

[rose trench]

yeah but i have static discharge does that count

[latent moon]

lol

[rustic vale]

It’s an old victory screen don’t

[stone rune]

what are your zeus core boons rn

[rustic vale]

I have a sub10 run now and am practicing 40 heat

[jovial forum]

WIUQUHAHAHA

quaking in my boots

[rustic vale]

and am delta wraith

[stone rune]

is your pb zeus

[jovial forum]

this is how u have fun 😨

[latent moon]

i have a 6:47 and a 51 heat clear lol

[jovial forum]

i

[latent moon]

others have better accomplishments

[jovial forum]

PUKES

[rustic vale]

No it’s sub10 zag bow

[stone rune]

oh

[rustic vale]

Zag bow 💪

[rose trench]

zeus attack, static discharge, zeus call iirc

[royal widget]

whats best to practice 32 heat rn
im prob gonna finish grinding bounties becase it sucked early on

[stone rune]

oh yeah, the double strike would only apply to the call

[rustic vale]

Anyways, the important part was my pb was talos built for heavy knuckle but I never picked up any hammers

For a time

[dire tendon]

my first and only 32 clear was on beo

[latent moon]

just have a good build and pact

[dire tendon]

and it was very easy

[rose trench]

oh come on, thats a shame

[latent moon]

just use whatever aspect you're comfy with

[rose trench]

im probably still taking it anyways

[stone rune]

it's still good

[radiant vale]

demeter has no chill 💀 despite literally chilling stuff

[royal widget]

dang i havent played with beo in a while

[stone rune]

i dont think it's bugged on zoos call either

[stone rune]

don't

[rose trench]

my other boon options are kinda bad anyways

[stone rune]

awful aspect

[royal widget]

lmao what

[latent moon]

what are they

[stone rune]

worst aspect in the game

[royal widget]

chaos:

[stone rune]

chaos is like a diamond in the sea of beo vomit

[latent moon]

aspect of demeter literally exists, she will punch the crap out of you

she already punched the titans to death

[jovial forum]

im hungry

[rose trench]

common storm lightning and common heaven vengeance

[latent moon]

oh yeah that's fair

[stone rune]

oh yeah

[latent moon]

double strike would be best here

opens up splitting as well so why not

[stone rune]

lego not real

[royal widget]

i cant believe i just noticed each weapons has an aspect of the 6 og olypmians

[latent moon]

lmao

it's the 3rd one down

[stone rune]

watch vorime 430

[latent moon]

watch vorime 2:43 (?)

[stone rune]

i thought it was 248

[latent moon]

idk

it was 2:4x

[stone rune]

yeah 248

there's a beo route?

i thought there was a nem route

[latent moon]

there's a beo route yeah

it's funky

[radiant vale]

that aspect makes you have no chill

demeter herself aint chill either

[royal widget]

do you only ever wanna pom cast on beo
i assume mirage shot and flood/passion is the only thing that matters

[latent moon]

takes a bunch of -speed chaos and uses +3 dashes lol

[latent moon]

yeah pretty much

nothing else to pom

except like

wave pounding

[royal widget]

mmm

[stone rune]

i think if you get snurst you can pom it once or twice

[latent moon]

pom it so it one shots flame wheels prob

[royal widget]

more on hera than beo for me

[latent moon]

idk what the snurst break point is for flame wheels

[stone rune]

wheels are 50 hp right

i think common snurst is 30 or 40

[latent moon]

but also you dont always need to get snurst on beo

you just pick it up if you see it on dem

[stone rune]

yeah

[latent moon]

unless it's passion beo

[royal widget]

snow burst over ravenous will?

[stone rune]

depends on rarity

and how many pommables u have

rav will isnt pommable

[latent moon]

depends where in the run too

[stone rune]

also

dont take crop

like

ever but also especially if cshot already

[royal widget]

wait what

[latent moon]

bugged to make damage weird basically

[royal widget]

:(

[latent moon]

it becomes a range

[royal widget]

why does being not pommable matter so much
is mom-pom just that good?

[latent moon]

no it's more like

nothing else is important

and poms on cast scale well

so you just pom it to hell

also you dont want to be stuck with a level 3 flare by the end of the run

[radiant vale]

aspect of amogus when

[royal widget]

peep my level 19 heroic run

[latent moon]

that's the idea lmao

[royal widget]

i should try and max dio cast on hera lol

[latent moon]

you just keep leveling it up because nothing else is worth pomming

[latent moon]

do it on beo

pom bug

more damage

[royal widget]

well ok then

[rose trench]

also is razor shoals a good boon?

rupture really seems to deal a lot of damage

[native blade]

Yes, yea it is.

[rose trench]

(albeit within a very short period of time but still)

[latent moon]

yes

it's good supplementary damage

[rustic vale]

They have to be moving to take the damage thou

[latent moon]

and also it has increased odds of showing up, so you wont see it again when picking up a pos boon

[rustic vale]

It’s good because it’s a priority boon so picking it up improves your duo/legend odds

[radiant vale]

where's the speedrun guide doc

[stone rune]

https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/1i726#ch2_Weapon_Aspect_specific

[rustic vale]

I think

nooo

Jazz

quicker then me

[stone rune]

uh

[rose trench]

oh my god I can purge my legendary boon for 440 obols

[stone rune]

in endshop

[rustic vale]

This is why I don’t have sub9 yet

[rose trench]

I'm gonna purge it

[stone rune]

i have mirage open

2 rolls

[rustic vale]

Which legendary

[jovial forum]

is it

[rose trench]

poseidon

[stone rune]

do i take blue shoals blue pounding or roll

[jovial forum]

obel
or obol ?

[rose trench]

the fishy one

[jovial forum]

i think its obol

absolutely purge it

[latent moon]

i'm assuming tart?

[stone rune]

yeah

tart endshop

[rustic vale]

I mean getting better odds for post Hades fish

[latent moon]

what level flare and do you have cshot

[stone rune]

i'm tempted to roll because it's a pos boon

lvl3 cshot

rare

[rose trench]

I'm terrible at the minigame anyways

[stone rune]

and i have conch

so it should be 32%

[latent moon]

yeah i'd roll

[stone rune]

got it

[latent moon]

gamer

[rose trench]

honestly I'll just purge it so I can buy more styx stuff

[stone rune]

god

finally an instaphase build

braid probably helped lmfao

[latent moon]

you prob didn't need to roll to instaphase tbh lmao

but oh well

easy aspho

[stone rune]

ix in well

[latent moon]

take egg

[stone rune]

do i sell mistral

[latent moon]

egg is based

uh

yea

messes up fiery

[stone rune]

yeah figured

[latent moon]

also pommable

disgusting

[stone rune]

others were atk and aid

[latent moon]

atk isn't bad tbf

[stone rune]

i follow the word of kirrby

[latent moon]

oh well if they said dash that's fair

[stone rune]

i think

[stone rune]

no the Not be an attack boon part of the guide

[latent moon]

oh lmao

i didn't really read the guide

[stone rune]

grahhh why is aspho keepsake so weird

plume is fake

[latent moon]

take purse

or egg

you have an ixion

[stone rune]

im rich

guess ill go egg

[latent moon]

egg or arty for marked