might is good if u get a call that can be used regularly
#h1-discussion
pastel monolith
stone rune
might
pastel monolith
wait maybe I'm thinking of the wrong boon
manic vine
Lol
stone rune
hydraulic might is great
pastel monolith
which is the one where u do more damage after using a call
stone rune
50-75% extra damage is lovely
stone rune
which is the one where u do more damage after using a call
billowing strength
pastel monolith
oh ya nvm
manic vine
Might's Attack and Special up in the first 10 seconds
pastel monolith
right
manic vine
So might?
hardy spear
which is the one where u do more damage after using a call
also thats zeus 
pastel monolith
hahaa rly 🤣 sorry im dumb
manic vine
Damn-
hardy spear
lol
pastel monolith
i confuse boon names a lot still.. even at like 800hrs of playing
hardy spear
i got most of the relevant ones down
manic vine
What's a good cast in this kind of run though?
pastel monolith
ares or demeter if u have artemis for the duo
stone rune
you could do that
pastel monolith
zeus not bad for smaller enemies
manic vine
Doesn't demeter have 2 different casts?
stone rune
this is achilles
stone rune
Doesn't demeter have 2 different casts?
no?
manic vine
Just the beam?
stone rune
do you mean crystal clarity and cold embrace
manic vine
Yeah i think??
stone rune
those are the duos
manic vine
I only have 50 hours, I'm still stupid
pastel monolith
crystal clsriry is the good one
stone rune
we were all stupid
manic vine
Oh right cold embrace is the bad duo
pastel monolith
cold embrace is cursed and bad unless u practice with it a lot
stone rune
you just have to use nyaanyaa's beautiful visual guide
pastel monolith
i hate cold embrace bc it scammed me out of what would have been my first successful escape and i bought it from the styx shop right before I fought hades.. i wasnt ready for it and it totally ruined my style.. ive hated it ever since
but ive seen people make it work
manic vine
It could work but I can relate with it messing up your style
Almost got killed by theseus and asterius because i picked it not knowing about it
stone rune
stone rune
achilles special boons exist for duos and curses
latent moon
yeah pretty much
manic vine
I'm getting demeter's cast, Crystal Clarity will help out here.
latent moon
dem atk on achilles is pretty goood
latent moon
wait why'd i say dem atk
stone rune
lmfao
latent moon
i meant arty atk
tbf % atks are fine
but artemis to open up the duo is obv ideal here
manic vine
It is kinda funny that I think about it now
My 2 boon choices after getting a chaos boon was Aphro and Arty
Roiling Eclipse or Slippery Favor?
I'm leaving out the 3rd one for a reason.
latent moon
just for funsies what's the 3rd one lmao
manic vine
Maimed Shot
latent moon
maimed is -atk right
stone rune
yeah
manic vine
Yep
latent moon
if you dont care about time, then that's fine
manic vine
Yeah
stone rune
literally that one
manic vine
Really?
stone rune
what rarity
manic vine
Common
latent moon
i mean i'd take it, doesn't mean it's a good idea for you lmao
stone rune
what chamber is it
latent moon
if you dont have crystal clarity going yet, i'd take slippery favor
if you dont want to take maimed shot
stone rune
#h1-discussion message it's axiomatic
if you're comfortable with the maimed, shot is great
you just have to not get hit for a few chambers
don't take it if you've got like lernie coming up
manic vine
Yeah I don't have the cast yet so I'm gonna take Favor.
Oh yeah I checked the chamber it is not going to work well for me if I take Maimed Shot
I'm at chamber 20
stone rune
oh bruh
stone rune
meme beam dream
manic vine
Those beams almost got me my first win long before even without the duo
I love those beams to death
latent moon
did the beams win you the game or was it also like the atk and whatnot lol
manic vine
The beams didn't win me my game, but it was damn close to
Sliver health on hades, I just slipped up and ran face first into one of those jars
latent moon
oh i missed "almost" in the first message lol
manic vine
And now I have the beam
latent moon
but do you have crystal clarity
manic vine
No
stone rune
clystal crarity
manic vine
I forgot about cold embrace
Serrated Point, Triple Jab or the Forgettable Vicious Skewer?
manic vine
2nd, the other i have is flurry jab
stone rune
oh
triple
yup
Second Hammer
To be honest none of them make that big of a difference so it's not even worth going for. Mostly go for it if you are offered it against Poms that you don't need, Gods you don't care for, or non-menu reward before seeing Than.
Extending Jab: Happy to see it on Artemis build.
Triple Jab: Adds AOE which makes grouping enemies easier. Probably better than Extending Jab on Zeus build.
Serrated point: Reset
Other: Does not matter.
hardy spear
https://i.imgur.com/d4sJQ6Q.png
i haven't used cold embrace ever
never had aphro and beam in the same build i thin
manic vine
Got both a demeter and Arty boon and STILL no Crystal Clarity
And I have one more shot because both doors have the two gods in the boon
hardy spear
Got both a demeter and Arty boon and STILL no Crystal Clarity
not entirely related but its good to know that you cant get duos from trial rooms
hardy spear
latent moon
it do be like that
hardy spear
stone rune
time to get no grasps ever
stone rune
real storm lightning moment
manic vine
Real storm lightning moment
I have support fire, crystal clarity, storm lightning, and hopefully enough stuff to get me a 2nd win
Oh my god this was the superior run
empty swallow
Aspect of Gilgamesh 32.04% (66 votes)
Aspect of Demeter 67.96% (140 votes)
If Zeus don't win there is something strange happening
latent moon
wouldnt be surprised if chaos won tho
feral belfry
Chaos Chiron final
celest shell
Zeus makes sense but Chaos is Chaos
feral belfry
Chaos OP duh
latent moon
Anyone got tips for farming darkness?
Start Poseidon so you find oceans bounty at some point soon. Pick up sunken treasure if you see it
Take eclipse boons from chaos
Find Dionysus so you can get the duo exclusive access so you can get epic eclipses from chaos
Use bouldy summon, ideally use as late as possible so you get the highest % possible for your darkness
stoic spoke
Ty
latent moon
It does
It's only 30% lol
It's the lowest % possible for a chaos to put it into perspective
rustic falcon
It's the lowest % possible for a chaos to put it into perspective
wdym by lowest % possible for a chaos
rustic falcon
chaos shot meaning the cast boon Lord Chaos gives?
rustic falcon
ohh
latent moon
So like it is def gonna do something and it will do more damage, but it's not anything too insane
It'll help hit break points a lot faster and whatnot
rustic falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1079966024385953803/image.png
ah so chaos can basically give a free and most of the time better mirage shot
latent moon
As long as it isn't a flare, yes chaos will nearly always give a better buff
It's still worth shooting for on cast builds ofc because it's free bonus damage
rustic falcon
fair
latent moon
Never a priority unless it's Beowulf
rustic falcon
but getting cast boon from chaos gonna be a lot more damage if you can be lucky enough to get it during a cast build run
rustic falcon
Never a priority unless it's Beowulf
what about hera
latent moon
Generally yeah
rustic falcon
oh
latent moon
Artemis atk and some pos core (I heard the Hera players don't like tdash) to open mirage
But it's not like super necessary
rustic falcon
yeah i heard tdash knocksback the enemies knocking them out of your position or smth
latent moon
If you see the gods and get mirage it's like "oh sure I'll take that"
latent moon
yeah i heard tdash knocksback the enemies knocking them out of your position or ...
Pretty much yeah
You're not gonna turn down free damage on a cast build lmao
Not a priority, but sure might as well take it
latent moon
Like on crush shot Hera if I already get snow burst and rav will in Tartarus somehow and also somehow get pos or Artemis, I'm gonna take Artemis or pos into aspho because why not
rustic falcon
the special seems to take time to do damage and drop the cast
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1079967662483980288/image.png
you could talk to boudly??????????
best game
dam embed fail
latent moon
i dont know why i always run a cast build for pos sword
Speedruns and I think also high heat don't care about the cast lol
Speedruns is just ME because ME lmao
For heat, no clue
rustic falcon
how hard is EM4
latent moon
It's a learning curve
rustic falcon
i havent tried it yet but heard from some people its kinda hard
latent moon
You don't climb heat with it tho
rustic falcon
tho the fury sisters fight with/without EM is easy
latent moon
It's fine up until like idk 15-20 heat I guess? It gets worse the more bad pacts you stack up
rustic falcon
oh
latent moon
It's generally not considered even using for high heat until like 50+ because at that point there aren't too many options lol
rustic falcon
yeah sadly
wait hell mode gives +5 heat permanently right does that mean max heat in the game is 69 heat technically
latent moon
It's a pretty difficult and long fight in general, and stacking heat like FO, HL, to an extent LC hurts because no Dad's means you need a pretty clean fight
And if you don't get patty it's gonna be rough
latent moon
wait hell mode gives +5 heat permanently right does that mean max heat in the ga...
No, it automatically turns some on that can't be taken off
So your range is permanently 5-64 instead of 0-63
limber ether
It's a range
muted glen
5 heat - 64 heat
latent moon
Heat range yeah
rustic falcon
wait so what things are usually active for hell mode
woeful trout
It's still worth shooting for on cast builds ofc because it's free bonus damage
also mirage could sometimes hit 2 enemies
latent moon
Hl1 lc1 js1 cp1 pl
latent moon
also mirage could sometimes hit 2 enemies
Oh yeah that too it hits twice
I keep forgetting about that lol
rustic falcon
i feel like pos cast works best with mirage and if you have rupture boon too for more damage
latent moon
Yeah but pos cast for a lot of castpects isn't great lol
limber ether
It feels annoying to use with Hera
Maybe I'm just bad though
I like crush shot hera above all
latent moon
Flood shot with Hera isn't that great compared to crush shot yeah
limber ether
I'm mechanically pretty bad but for 32 heat I just forced aphro cast on Hera and it worked fine lmao
rustic falcon
why do people default to crush shot for hera
limber ether
Lots of damage
rustic falcon
is it cuz of the pom scaling
limber ether
The drawback to crush shot is the low range
But that's not an issue when you have a bow
rustic falcon
what about true shot from artemis it can do crit damage
limber ether
Isn't that still low damage?
I don't remember the stats
Can always get hunter's mark if you want crits
rustic falcon
fair point
latent moon
what about true shot from artemis it can do crit damage
low damage, low crit chance
it's pretty abysmal lol
latent moon
why do people default to crush shot for hera
good aoe, your casts dont go flying into the void, big damage
crush shot sucks on other builds because it has super short range, so applying boiling blood is more difficult
hera fixes that problem by slapping it at the end of the arrow
woeful trout
Yeah but pos cast for a lot of castpects isn't great lol
isnt it best with beowulf
or maybe thats just because it makes mirage shot easier to get
latent moon
because of mirage
if it wasn't for mirage, it'd use passion flare
probably
because flood flare and flood shot have the same damage iirc
and like, mirage flood is still weaker than passion i think
if not, then it's like marginally better so you'd rather have passion for the whole run instead
also mirage is literally bugged on beo to deal 100% instead of 30% lmao
so you'd never want to use passion over flood unless you're running high heat and want consistency
rustic falcon
arent flood flare and flood shot basically the same thing but flare is only available for aspect of beo
muted glen
has that not been patched
latent moon
arent flood flare and flood shot basically the same thing but flare is only avai...
i think some casts vs flares have different damages, but i'm not entirely sure
but yeah you're right tho
latent moon
has that not been patched
game hasn't been patched for a long while lmao
muted glen
lmfaooo
latent moon
they dont plan to either, so whatever bugs are in the game they're here to stay
muted glen
💀
latent moon
beo has like 6 bugs
latent moon
trippy flare on beo has the double pom bug and the crit bug
tiny flare when you do funky stuff with the atk for icy and passion flare
thunder flare isn't considered a cast, idk if that's intentional or not but it's horrid
dire tendon
aint there smth about crop
latent moon
yeah that's tiny flare
dire tendon
thunder flare isn't considered a cast, idk if that's intentional or not but it's...
what.
stone rune
does it not get shot bonuses????
latent moon
no
latent moon
it's literally not a cast
it calls down a bolt of lightning that does damage
oh i should reword
dire tendon
so what is it considered as then
latent moon
thunder flare isn't a flare i guess
it doesn't have the big boom around it like other flares
stone rune
no mirage bug right
latent moon
it calls down a bolt of lightning to the nearest target
and yeah mirage doesn't work on it
because it doesn't count as a cast
stone rune
its funny how a bug makes another bug not bugged
latent moon
you can figure this out when you're offered a replacement of thunder flare
it'll say like 0 -> 120 or whatever
dire tendon
does it work with double strike?
stone rune
but theres no reason ever to take thunder flare anyways
latent moon
or 120 -> 0 lmao
stone rune
so it could do 0 damage and it wouldnt matter
dire tendon
that is so bad lmao
latent moon
yeah you just never use thunder flare unless it's for memes
i'd argue icy flare is worse tho
stone rune
icy doesnt have a million supporting boons
latent moon
they shoulda made it just do 0 damage and drop a meme beam
i heard it used to
latent moon
and then the community was like "this sucks" so now it's a flare with horrible pom scsaling
latent moon
there's also a delay before it booms
stone rune
icy flare?
latent moon
yeah
stone rune
demeter has a cast boon on beo?
latent moon
unfortunately
dire tendon
demeter has a cast boon on beo?
ice wine
we dont talk about the other one
:)
ice wine feels like what dem flare should be
dire tendon
i mean non beo wine
latent moon
flares i mean
oh i dont remember ever using ice wine ever lmao
prophecy is done but idk when that happened
legit dont remember using half the duos that exist
stone rune
curse of longing
latent moon
i do remember using that unfortunately
stone rune
scintillating feast
pine silo
wonder how the dieing and respawning will work in hades 2 a time loop or same as last game?
stone rune
do i take it guys???
the issue with ely skip is that sometimes you get to dad with 1 hammer 💀
woeful trout
oh i dont remember ever using ice wine ever lmao
It’s funny with scintillating feast
woeful trout
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1079991902419570688/i...
Take it
latent moon
do i take it guys???
obviously
stoic spoke
It’s funny with scintillating feast
I read this as scintillating feet
woeful trout
I read this as scintillating feet
empty swallow
solar vault
latent moon
honestly surprised ngl
spring knoll
https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqRbEjAyN
Do you have a list of all the past polls somewhere? Is there a reddit thread with a bracket or something?
latent moon
there's a bracket
doesn't have like % of results but it has results
it's quite scuffed
spring knoll
hmmm, so the shield and the bow get byes? It looks like that was just random luck since the weapons appear to be listed in columns by order of in-game appearance
down the left side and up the right
oh wait no, the bow and shield would be reversed then, hmm
latent moon
He said it's completely random
spring knoll
I hope Eris wins! I already finished my rail bounties thanks to Eris clockets. Every other weapon is ~5 behind (except fists, which are like ~10 behind).
spring knoll
oooh, my first hitless Charon fight!
hardy crown
I joined this server to ask a question and kept forgetting to ask it. Must we clear pact of punishment one point at a time or can we rank it higher to get multiple titan bloods per boss battle?
high island
You can clear higher Heat; but when you do that, you'll only get the rewards for the current Heat that you need to clear.
hardy crown
Good to know! I'll go one by one then, as I have been.
I wouldn't have minded trying. The 8 heat curtain fast tracking would have been fun otherwise. Probably would be nice for speed 100% people/replays.
But I'm like here playing years after release. Little late for a gameplay critique.
Love the game though.
Definitely gonna get part 2.
high island
I wouldn't have minded trying. The 8 heat curtain fast tracking would have been ...
Rushing for 20 Heat early on all weapons and easily unlocking all weapons and upgrading them fully that way would kill a lot of replay value.
hardy crown
Suppose it would. That would make playing for story/rewards a little stilted, as rewards would disappear before story end.
Maybe it could be a new game+ feature post 100% completion.
As in a checkbox sort of thing in options.
At that point though, id probably just like the clean slate so it's just as much a nevermind kind of idea.
Anyway back to my run.
Thanks.
hardy crown
Artemis checking in on me like hey you gonna go unlock the next aspect? I have been strictly playing by whatever is gaining a gems/darkness bonus.
So there is no need to rush like that. I'll get to it.
And I'm glad the bow is ready to unlock because I'm just terrible with it.
I got one from Zeus as well now that I think of it.
7 weapons... 9 gods... Hmm.
Guess this kind of prompt isn't for each of them. Guessing Demeter wouldn't be one of them.
The call for Hades really surprised me, being split in two when so many were smaller. Guess it's for the best but still was a shock. Thirds would be nice, agree or no?
I'm on my 80th escape attempt and I'm very very close to having all the gifts ranked up to max.
Ooh. Just encountered my first erubus gate. Hmm.
Failed. Darn.
When choosing between two gods boons it's becoming a bit more like choosing to avoid the one who's attacks I dislike more. I feel like Demeter drops her ice vortexes right on me and thus is the most dangerous.
It's especially bad for stationary fighting styles plus inattention.
north shell
When choosing between two gods boons it's becoming a bit more like choosing to a...
that's kinda the point
i mean generally most people skip trial rooms, but when they take them they just avoid the one whose attacks are harder to avoid or are just more annoying overall
hardy crown
I was doing it for favoritism at first.
north shell
fair
hardy crown
Is there a punishment for failing erubus gate? I feel uncertain if I'm just imagining a difficulty spike.
north shell
as far as i know there's no punishment
i'm not certain tho, i haven't failed an erebus gate yet
spring knoll
if you fail then you get an onion instead of the reward
it still counts against the floor total as well (unless it's on the floor before an endshop), so you miss out on the rewards you could have gotten from another room instead
hardy crown
My next room was a shop before entering. My exit route was a shop.
fair basalt
why does everyone like aphrodite
umbral whale
why does everyone like aphrodite
Cuz they are horny and shes nude
fair basalt
show me one
limber ether
Heartbreak strike
fair basalt
Heartbreak strike
thats ok ig
lapis lantern
I have 21 ambrosia. How much can I safely turn to titan bloods without running into problems later?
high island
high island
I have 21 ambrosia. How much can I safely turn to titan bloods without running i...
You can trade in Nectar for Ambrosia anyway, so it's not really a big deal even if you trade in "too much".
brazen cargo
show me one
Heartbreak strike, heartbreak flourish, crush shot, passion dash
stone rune
i had not scrolled down enough
but
to whoeber said sphrodites boons are bad
she has highest % in the game
fair basalt
she has highest % in the game
what does that mean
stone rune
increase to attack and special
north shell
what does that mean
her boons give the highest % increase to damage
stone rune
her attack base increase is 50%
brazen cargo
Yesterday, i was doing a heat 20 run. Ii didn't know my controller was low on battery. My controller died the moment I beat Hades EM4
stone rune
special is 80%
brazen cargo
My controller is a trooper.
north shell
fr
brazen cargo
I am proud of my controller
stone rune
and can go up to 100% atk 160% special
fair basalt
and can go up to 100% atk 160% special
is that good
stone rune
yes
fair basalt
ok
stone rune
which is literally blown kiss from aphrodite
stone rune
With blown kiss
blown kiss flurry shot 
brazen cargo
Ez gg no re
stone rune
that means flurry shot must be a bad hammer
north shell
any tips for getting faster runs?
fair basalt
all of his boons are good
north shell
side hustle 
fair basalt
will he show up again if u sell one of his boons?
fair basalt
is it that good
north shell
common hyper sprint w
north shell
is it that good
yeah
fair basalt
what does becoming sturdy do again?
stone rune
but opens rush delivery from hermes
and since hyper sprint gives you temporary +100% movespeed
and rush delivery gives you damage from movespeed
north shell
rd goes crazy
stone rune
it is a very good combo
stone rune
what does becoming sturdy do again?
30% DR, your actions cannot be interrupted
north shell
any tips on how to get faster runs?
fair basalt
ig its good for spamming the dash attack
stone rune
dont take dash nova
north shell
is it a pin somewhere?
stone rune
hold on
north shell
alr
north shell
thanks
brazen cargo
and since hyper sprint gives you temporary +100% movespeed
I had a run with Demeter fist, dash upper, hyper delivery and Artemis special with heart rend.
fair basalt
dont take dash nova
whats dash nova?
stone rune
oh did i forget which is which
stone rune
no
uh
dash mova makes you sturdy and gives you dash special
it is bad for rotation
if thats what tou were asking about sturdy for
brazen cargo
Does anyone know of the damage tick from Dionysus hangover crits?
Like, if i have deadly reversal or splitting headache on, will the hangover crit for more damage than usual?
brazen cargo
I've never picked it up
north shell
it's not exactly that good
north shell
I've never picked it up
i played 2 sword runs and in both of them i was forced to take it ._.
just cause the other 2 were terrible
fair basalt
there is this spear upgrade that make u dash next to ur spear
north shell
that's an aspect
fair basalt
its a ton of fun idk if its good tho
north shell
Aspect of Achilles
fair basalt
i finished the game with it once
brazen cargo
just cause the other 2 were terrible
I feel ya. I once passed over divine dash , hoping for merciful end. I had 6 rerolls. Didn't get divine dash OR merciful end
north shell
yikesss
but
what if i told you
i aimed for ME 2 times in my whole playtime
both of those times i had gotten it in tart
brazen cargo
(;_;)
fair basalt
i played 2 sword runs and in both of them i was forced to take it ._.
really? its so fun tho
brazen cargo
Aspect of Achilles
Achilles with Demeter cast and arty duo is so much fun
fair basalt
Aspect of Achilles makes me feel like an anime character
north shell
Achilles with Demeter cast and arty duo is so much fun
ngl i haven't played it
fair basalt
one of those jojo teleports
north shell
most of my runs are on Achilles but i never take demeter
idk i just don't like taking demeter
brazen cargo
I used to do hunting blades but now I've been experimenting a lot of new builds.
brazen cargo
If you manage to get a few decent Demeter boons and her legendary, the build annihilates.
north shell
i've played Achilles for most of my play time
brazen cargo
Tested at 20 heat
I like aspect of Achilles, aspect of hera, aspect of Demeter
These three are my favourites
fair basalt
idk i just don't like taking demeter <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
i like demeter, i dislike aphrodite but everyone here says she is good so ill pick her when she appears ig from now on
north shell
i like achilles and any sword aspect that isn't arthur
brazen cargo
Hera with hunting blades and Mirage shot is surprisingly fun. Although I usually go with true shot
fair basalt
who is the worst god?
north shell
ig i kinda like gilgamesh as well
brazen cargo
i like achilles and any sword aspect that isn't arthur
Fellow Arthur hater. I like ya
I am ass with arthur
north shell
it's not that i hate it, it's just not my playstyle
brazen cargo
I just can't do it
north shell
it feels SO slow
north shell
who is the worst god?
i don't think any god can be considered the worst
they're all good on certain builds
north shell
I don't care if it hits like a truck
exactly
pastel monolith
if i had to pick a WORST god tho.. even tho of course they all are good in their own way.. personaly i think demeter is the worst
fair basalt
which gods should i aim for?
brazen cargo
they're all good on certain builds
This. I didn't care about Demeter but now that i have discovered crystal clarity and glacial gaze, there is no going back.
north shell
if i had to pick a WORST god tho.. even tho of course they all are good in thei...
yeah same
i never take demeter, but people say she's good as well
north shell
which gods should i aim for?
what aspect do you play
brazen cargo
which gods should i aim for?
Play the game the way you like. Once you understand the book mechanics and synergies, you will choose your own favorites
pastel monolith
crystal clarity pwns, and snow burdt can be awesome too
north shell
that as well ^
fair basalt
what aspect do you play
i didnt touch it at all, the zagerus one i think?
north shell
oh zag spear uhh
brazen cargo
Unlock aspect of nemesis for sword
fair basalt
oh zag spear uhh
i can get any aspect
brazen cargo
I think it's the best sword aspect
fair basalt
i have a ton of those blood thingies
north shell
i haven't played zag spear in a looong time
but i think probably something crit related would work
brazen cargo
i can get any aspect
You need titan blood. Clearing a run for the first time gives 2 titan blood
north shell
or some beefy special build
with exploding launcher and charged skewer
those hit like a TRUCK if combined
brazen cargo
Oh wait nvm, I'm stupid. I read it as "can't".
fair basalt
but i think probably something crit related would work
tbh i can beat the game with any boon cuz im chad like that but my friend says u deal no damage and roasts me for it
north shell
tbh i can beat the game with any boon cuz im chad like that but my friend says u...
yea that's kinda the whole reason people go certain builds
brazen cargo
Big damage number = neuron activation
north shell
exactly
north shell
tbh you don't even have to kill them
not sure if clearing or not clearing them matters at all
i've started to just focus hades and i haven't seen much difference
pastel monolith
ya focus on hades but of course kill them too if u can
fair basalt
i damage them when he uses the darkness thing
high island
that means flurry shot must be a bad hammer
True.
high island
any tips for getting faster runs?
Press buttons really fast.
north shell
real
high island
If you're not getting faster runs that way, you're not pressing fast enough.
north shell
makes sense
pastel monolith
buy rabbit feet and other good luck charms from your local witch shop for better rng luck.. praying might help too
brisk trail
I have every normal aspect and ||guan yu baybeeee||, what should I do now?
also beat the game w/ all weps
stone rune
do 32x6
pastel monolith
32 all weapons for sure.. all aspects eventualy
stone rune
32x24 is torture
you have to use zagspear
and zagsword
and talos
fists and sword in general
pastel monolith
ya i had the hardest time with probably zag shield
pastel monolith
actusly i dont remember which gave me the hardest time
stone rune
and second off it's a free 60% dmg increase
pastel monolith
probably a fist aspect actually
stone rune
if you had a hard time with zagshield you'd have had a harder time with chaos
since chaos is just worse zagshield
but yeah fists are harder for 32
gilga moment
pastel monolith
i thought guan yu would be rough but i got the hammer that makes the spin move faster and the one that makes it go longer and it ended up being super easy
my worst aspect is arthur i think but somehow that was the first sword i got 32 with
empty swallow
toxic trellis
pastel monolith
ya zeus aspect rips once u get the hang of it
brisk trail
also when u unlock true ending does persephone just stay in the underworld?
stone rune
until you get epilogue
brisk trail
h o w d o i d o t h a t
brisk trail
ya zeus aspect rips once u get the hang of it
fr fr especially with drunken flourish
pastel monolith
just talk to everyone every chsnce u get when they have a ! , gift them every chsnce u get.. eventually it happens
stone rune
chsnce
brisk trail
How many hours worth of fun does hades have
brisk trail
Fr?
stone rune
i have like 250 rn and im still going
brisk trail
Then ill wait for sale and buy it
void vigil
I played like 600 hours and I still have one more thing I want to do in it
your mileage may vary and at that point it’s probably a lot about challenging yourself, like increasing the difficulty or speedrunning
but you can get a lot out of it
stone rune
sub6
void vigil
I never actually tried speedrunning, my fastest time is 15:15
north shell
okay i just wanna make sure, gods stay in your pool even if you purge their boons right?
stone rune
yes
high island
zeus is actually winning
It's a subreddit plot to undermine my predictive authority.
stone rune
lol
high island
They saw me predict that they're all gonna vote Chaos #1.
stone rune
if gods didnt stay in your pool id be a lot more apprehensive about selling common boons from people i want epic boons from
high island
So now they want to trick the world into believing I was wrong.
But m never wrong.
pastel monolith
How many hours worth of fun does hades have
im at about 800 and still learning new things and getting better, always new challenge.. occasionally i still unlock new dialog
there have been days where im kinda burnt out on hades but it doesnt last long and before i know it im right back into it
but individual experiences may vary.. id say at least 100 hrs tho
there just so much to try.. different weapons different builds , pact of punishment heat combinations
speedrunning
funny "meme runs"
ever increasing heat difficulty.. i just broke my personal best heat record last week with 43
stone rune
grinding 2k hours to get routed tier rng
pastel monolith
skill and practice is a big factor too, the more u play the better u get and it can be really rewarding
there are things even after 800 hrs that i still suck at, like em4 or the charon fight or using arthur
im not very consistent with speedrunning either i havent gotten sub 9 yet
fresh file attempts are always fun just to see how far i can get but im hopeless that i will ever actually do it
my point is just there is endless amount of challenges u can play so many different ways and try to get better
I almost did a no hit run once.. i was really focused on that for a while.. ive done each part without getting hit but never all in one run
north shell
man
this is so sad
i've got
5 athena boons by now
not a single one was flourish
(i was going for me)
stone rune
this is why we play modded
pastel monolith
dang
north shell
i finally got it in ely midshop ._.
pastel monolith
i really wish i could play modded but i only have xbox
torpid cairn
this is why we play modded
what kind of mods are available for hades?
pastel monolith
i could have so much fun with the mods
stone rune
what kind of mods are available for hades?
the big one is speedrun modpack
pastel monolith
what kind of mods are available for hades?
there are some really cool ones that people added new gods and new boons
stone rune
clockets so silly 🤪
pastel monolith
some that let u spawn whatever boons u want whenever u want
i bet that could bebreally insane silly fun
stone rune
torpid cairn
i'd like some semblance of the game to still remain but a little more forgiving rng is always appreciated
pastel monolith
id want a mod thst just lets me practice boss fights non stop
dire tendon
i'd like some semblance of the game to still remain but a little more forgiving ...
speedrun modpack :)
pastel monolith
speedrun modpack does what exactly.. ?
guaranteed 2 sack, no barge maybe? ive seen some that guarantee first boon is what u want or guarantees what the first hammer will be
north shell
and now i'm not even getting me
pastel monolith
not entirely sure and there might be different ones
i only know from watching ppl on twitch
north shell
i should have reset 52309 years ago but oh well
stone rune
speedrun modpack does what exactly.. ?
guaranteed 2 sack, no barge maybe? ive...
2sack, not bad minibosses
dontgetvorimed
uh
guaranteed first hammer
so you're gambling on a 3/11 chance instead of a 9/132 chance
rustic falcon
wait proud bearing is pommable
so its possible to start with max god guage or atleast like 60% god gauge at the start of battle
dire tendon
how do you get 11 boons of 1 god in a single run
north shell
idk i got like 7 athenas in a row
rain merlin
guys last time i did heat 3 and now i did 12 for fun and to complete the quest to win with every type i havent won with of pact of punishment yet
and i played really well and reached hades with no revives
and then hades just let me go
with no fight
lol
north shell
real
rain merlin
i meant all revives not none
well i guess
free titan blood
oh what that was the end?
are there more that seems a bit early
more endings that is
stone rune
sure
rain merlin
oh alr
rustic falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1080177690969112696/image.png
hm which one would be best for hera bow
attack in general or more cast damage
toxic trellis
Atrophic
rustic falcon
aight
high island
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820856028321021982/1080177690969112696/im...
Always Grasp or Shot on Hera.
peak carbon
stone rune
HESTIA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
stone rune
hestia u can literally press r and shoot
although hestia bad low lvl
eris you have to keep up boost
no reset making me confront the fact that i suck
silver mica
I need to get better with spear
I only have four clears with it
Two Hades Two Achilles
stone rune
one more than me
warm zenith
use guan yu 👍🏽
silver mica
I suck at guan yu
stone rune
spam q
silver mica
I'm not used to taking hearts
warm zenith
just dont get hit?
silver mica
So Guan Yu and EM4 is kinda different for me
silver mica
just dont get hit?
Good advice not but I'm not some god of blood or whatever
I get hit 😭
silver mica
705 leaving ely
Bruh how
stone rune
idk man
didnt get rd or clockets ig
still though i had like 73 attack in tart and i left at 233 :(((
silver mica
I'm nowhere near that fast goddamn
stone rune
this is not very fast lmfao
silver mica
Tart is usually like 3.5 minutes average for me 😭
silver mica
this is not very fast lmfao
Idk maybe I just need to practice more
Tbf I don't use hestia that much
I only maxed it out like today and I haven't tested it out yet
candid igloo
I'm quite new to the game, 20 or so runs only
but I've beat hades with sword/spear/shield/gloves
but I was having such a hard time with the bow and gun that I couldn't even beat the 1st or 2nd bosses
Today I decided to try using controller instead of keyboard and mouse
It automatically aims...
from worst weapons to most OP things ¬¬
silver mica
Today I decided to try using controller instead of keyboard and mouse
It automat...
YAHH
CONTROLLER FOR LIFE
candid igloo
Using bow, I'd get to Meg in 10~15minutes on keyboardmouse, with controller it takes 5min
stone rune
you can autoaim on kbm
candid igloo
I still prefer K&M for shield (specially because I only have the basic weapons and it's way easier to keep dashing+hit the enemies)
stone rune
why would you not use rail though
latent moon
Rail sucks
stone rune
imo L
latent moon
Okay 6:06 beo
candid igloo
Well, personally I'm trying to collect blood to unlock the weapons, so I'm trying to beat with each weapon and the hardest was the bow
latent moon
Bow is difficult to get the hang of yeah
silver mica
Bow is like my easiest (controller)
silver mica
Yess
stone rune
Well, personally I'm trying to collect blood to unlock the weapons, so I'm tryin...
fists
latent moon
Fists are easier to play
stone rune
easier to die with*
latent moon
They're not better but easier
silver mica
I always thought fists would suck on KBM
And that the ranged weapons would be better
stone rune
fists suck on kbm
sour fog
all weapons are completely fine on KBM
latent moon
The only thing kbm isn't good at compared to controller is flurry shot hera
candid igloo
I had the easiest time on the "melee" weaposn on K&M
rail was doable because I basically went on the special bomb + dionisius cast all the way
for bow, I could only beat after getting a controller
stone rune
hera isn't a real aspect
latent moon
all weapons are completely fine on KBM
Yeah they really are
Kbm vs controller is personal preference and experience
sour fog
yep
candid igloo
wait, maybe the problem is that I have it set to dash towards the mouse 🤔
stone rune
YEAH NO LOL
stone rune
that's utterly terrible
i think that's a form of punishment
god
imagine trying to dodge em4 with dash at cursor
sour fog
I played the game completely couple times on KBM and when I tried controller for the first time afterwards I couldn't get through Tartarus
candid igloo
I think I found useful because I played mostly with Zagreus Shield and it's basically a dash + strike weapon...
stone rune
spam cshot weapon*
latent moon
Some aspects it's technically fine with
silver mica
I've never played on KBM so I wouldn't have a clue
stone rune
you don't want to dash towards your targets???
latent moon
Later in the game when you increase heat you don't want that
latent moon
you don't want to dash towards your targets???
I mean Hera does
stone rune
hera isn't a real aspect
.
latent moon
Oh I should try that for flurry Hera lmfao
candid igloo
I kind of realized that, the more I play, the less "agressive" I'm with my movements and I tend to change to precision.. Again, totally new to the game, haven't even saw the credits yet.
But I kind of sensed that it's better to study the room and each movement with more precision instead of hitting targets nom stop and praying for survival haha
latent moon
beowulf isn't a real aspect
6:06
stone rune
eris does not exist
latent moon
Still proves my point lol
stone rune
it's fake
silver mica
I kind of realized that, the more I play, the less "agressive" I'm with my movem...
I feel like I became kinda the opposite
stone rune
I kind of realized that, the more I play, the less "agressive" I'm with my movem...
the more you play the more you hug dad
silver mica
But I'm a crippling speed addict and will sacrifice a lot to punch people faster
And harder
latent moon
Speedrun moment
candid igloo
noob question on chaos shield:
What's the better playstyle with it:
A = Dash behind enemies and Q to hit multiple shields in the enemy trying to instakill
B = Stay away from enemies hitting Q and letting the screen "clean itself" with shields going all around while avoiding enemies
silver mica
Speedrun moment
Zoomy fists are like my favourite thing 😭
latent moon
noob question on chaos shield:
What's the better playstyle with it:
A = Dash beh...
Best way to play chaos is use zag shield and don't use the special
Unironically
candid igloo
Cool, so it's zag shield nerfed haha
silver mica
Charged flight + heartbreak flourish + beowulf + assorted pom the special/chaos buff the special
Was pretty funny
And I would have won that run but FO
latent moon
Lmao rip
silver mica
Charged flight + heartbreak flourish + beowulf + assorted pom the special/chaos ...
I did this with chaos too
- dread flight
It wasn't terrible cause I had swift flourish
So i wasn't just unarmed waiting to be speared
candid igloo
It's so weird to get a victory purelly on dash 😐
Tidal Dash (epic)(5) + Wave Pounding (rare)(4) + Greatest Reflex (Common)
It was strangely easy
stone rune
passion dash:
north shell
yeah everyone says aphro is really good yet i never actually tried to do an aphro build 
north shell
i figure it's about time
latent moon
Wdym by specific builds
hardy spear
be more specific
stone rune
prob like going for a duo or something
stone rune
sometimes it's not our turn to talk!
latent moon
Passion dash is cringe except for heart rend zag bow
stone rune
it's the best dash in the game
old dawn
arthur is fun when you don't run into a horde of angry skulls spamming invulns for each other
north shell
i can't physically play with it
stone rune
it's literally an aphrodite boon
old dawn
and being unable to strip that thanks to your attack speed
actually happened to me once
pain asf
i think the room took 2min because of that
silver mica
Passion dash is cringe except for heart rend zag bow
I always do aphro special
old dawn
once with hestia too like
north shell
ig i'll try zag shield
scenic glade
but Artemis dash though
(idk if it’s actually the worst, I just never take it because the effect sounds lame)
stone rune
it's great
on weapons that use it
with bow it's great
hestia if you don't care about speed
sword it's great
scenic glade
does it apply to dash upper?
scenic glade
true
scenic glade
does it apply to dash upper?
according to this one Reddit post with like 3 upvotes, it does
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/fhm9s1/til_dashstrike_increases_work_with_the_fists/
latent moon
Yeah dash strike modifiers affect duppers
latent moon
I always do aphro special
Heart rend on zag bow via Aphrodite special isn't very intuitive or smooth lol
The special on zag bow isn't that great
stone rune
the thing about heart rend is that you have to keep weak up lmfao
and specialing is a massive time sink for 10 dmg
latent moon
If you got the boon where weak lasts for longer than you could make a case for it but also just put weak on dash lol
If you're doing arty strike
The easiest would be Aphrodite strike ofc
But higher crit chance is nice
latent moon
just dont use the special on zag bow
not everything in the weapon has to be used
the special on zag bow, hera, zag shield, chaos, and beowulf are all largely useless and shouldn't be used
silver mica
I use it in hydra or miniboss rooms
latent moon
except for niche scenarios but for the most part you dont use it
stone rune
not worth it
silver mica
Apart from that not a whole lot
latent moon
just dont use it in hydra or miniboss rooms
because yeah sure spread damage
but it's super minimal
the only way you're gonna get value out of a special on zag bow (apart from the 1 hp finisher thing) is if it's point blank
silver mica
I think it's cause i had the mindset of thinking of it less like spread damage and more just spread status
latent moon
pstatus kinda not great to begin with
silver mica
If that makes sense
scenic glade
the special on zag bow, hera, zag shield, chaos, and beowulf are all largely use...
“Don’t use special on chaos shield” so really you’re just saying not to use Chaos shield?
latent moon
“Don’t use special on chaos shield” so really you’re just saying not to use Chao...
yeah
that's literally what i'm saying lmao
scenic glade
k
latent moon
chaos shield is only considered good because it's a shield, not because the gimmick it gives is good
scenic glade
I’m still going to use it
latent moon
sure i can't make you not use it
silver mica
pstatus kinda not great to begin with
I don't really see the point of running the other one if sometimes I'm not getting a whole variety of gods
scenic glade
Frankly all of the “meta” discussion I’ve seen is so contradictory that I’m inclined to just keep playing how I’ve been playing.
latent moon
it's consistent
latent moon
I don't really see the point of running the other one if sometimes I'm not getti...
family favs lets you not worry about having a 2nd status condition
by the end of the run, you should have a 25% boost from just playing the game
with pstatus, if you dont end up with a 2nd curse it's just a waste
stone rune
Frankly all of the “meta” discussion I’ve seen is so contradictory that I’m incl...
how so
latent moon
pstatus is generally only used on hangover builds, because they always want low tolerance in some way shape or form
latent moon
Frankly all of the “meta” discussion I’ve seen is so contradictory that I’m incl...
if the "meta" discussion is on reddit, then that might explain a lot
silver mica
I think I find pstatus to be it's most useful when I'm playing fists
stone rune
i'm utterly shocked they actually voted zeus over chaos
latent moon
lmfao yeah
scenic glade
Yeah see this is exactly what I mean
latent moon
yeah reddit doesnt have that great of a sense of what's good or not
scenic glade
of course you say that
silver mica
Cause that's like the only weapon that i actually use dash special and attack consistently
stone rune
reddit is a bunch of new or casual players voting other new or casual players opinions' up
silver mica
Cast I don't use a whole lot but I really should
latent moon
of course you say that
i mean i've been in the subreddit longer than the discord, and even before i was in the discord i was thinking "these builds don't sound intuitive"
also yeah