h1-discussion

[tepid light]

i'm hungry, i think i'll eat some @swift inlet

[native blade]

Why?

[rustic vale]

Smair arte call free iframes

[native blade]

Lel.

[latent moon]

I'd you don't really care about that then take hourglass

[swift inlet]

I don't need collar

If I was bad I'd just put on thick skin

[native blade]

You have Plume?

[swift inlet]

plume not that needed

[native blade]

True.

[native blade]

Egg?

Ye, just spitballin’

Broken spear?

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699090167788470284/1031659410730266654/unknown.png

Pain

[latent moon]

Do it

Enshrouded is free

Or take slippery

[swift inlet]

Slippery hera

[old belfry]

man enshrouded is my least favorite chaos boon

[swift inlet]

I just rolled

flayed lunge

trash but eh

[latent moon]

Could be worse

[rustic vale]

Poison

[latent moon]

Can't check rn bots down 😔

[swift inlet]

you get to do 64 heat with personal liability half off 🧠

[latent moon]

Lmao

[swift inlet]

ok run has a nice pace fr

issue is

0 dds thanks to excruciating

I have to commit tax evasion against lernie

[latent moon]

Lmfao

Maybe should've taken tooth lol

[twilit lodge]

Just get sexy eeyore dd refills

[swift inlet]

honestly

[latent moon]

True

[swift inlet]

unironically should've

because uh

i saw no wells

[latent moon]

Lmfao it do be like that

[swift inlet]

40 second lernie fight

[latent moon]

Based

[swift inlet]

i guess it's ok given I had to play safe

[twilit lodge]

Say it with me. Bl**d and d*rkness

C1 Achilles flurry serrated breaching hmmm

[rustic vale]

Bl**d and d*rkn*ss
I just took charon bag to avoid getting forced into arte only to remember that arte was in my pool

[twilit lodge]

Lmfao

[rustic vale]

Lava

HS lava

[twilit lodge]

🧠

[high island]

I expected no less from you.

[twilit lodge]

Fo2 speeder bloodless

That’s why you take spearpoint to aspho

[latent moon]

It's a good bot lol

Has Apollo and hesty I'm pretty sure as well

[rustic vale]

Fo2 charon test real 😳

[high island]

Did you lose to Charon?

[rustic vale]

Lost a dd

[twilit lodge]

2nd boon aphro and she wants to replace lightning strike why

Is passion dash Achilles bad

[rustic vale]

but

I didn’t lose a dd to lernie

So it evens out

[twilit lodge]

Not paying lernie tax? That’s a paddlin’

[high island]

300 and a discount is more than a DD. At least it wasn't a loss.

[rustic vale]

Is a net gain

Prayers for double hermes in ely

[twilit lodge]

Snurst castless Achilles 💪

[swift inlet]

3:55 should be able to sub8 right

3:55 styx btw

(aspho)

[rustic vale]

I swear I’ve hit purple rd 1/3 of my runs recently

[swift inlet]

^

[rustic vale]

C35 chaos 🧠

[twilit lodge]

Incredible threatable egg

[high island]

3:55 Asphodel exit?

Should be good.

[twilit lodge]

3:55 aspho exit is not on track for sub5 smh

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1031665062445858826/IMG_2370.jpg

Taking enshoured flourish into heroes fight

c35

[twilit lodge]

Mystery Styx

[rustic vale]

isn’t a problem

15 second heroes fight

Oh what

Enshrouded flourish just immediately evolved on styx entry

[twilit lodge]

Refund now SGG

Glitchy game smh

[rustic vale]

No

I think it’s the timing

Next 5 chambers

1 chamber prior to heroes fight
1 chamber heroes fight
1 chamber to mid room
1 chamber to clockwork room
Styx entrance

[vital tapir]

yea it tracks staircase areas

or like entering chaos

[twilit lodge]

But it says encounters smh

[hardy spear]

no it doesnt

[rustic vale]

it says chambers

[hardy spear]

might be the only one that doesn't

[rustic vale]

“For the next 5 chamber(s) chamber reward previews are hidden”

[twilit lodge]

Literally says for the next x encounters

[hardy spear]

can you read

[twilit lodge]

SMH enshrouded is different

[hardy spear]

the top one

[rustic vale]

Look at enshrouded flourish

[hardy spear]

💀

[twilit lodge]

Me brain big

[hardy spear]

[rustic vale]

Some say standard encounters as well iirc

[vital tapir]

only flourish says chambers

[hardy spear]

i think its the enshrouded curse

[vital tapir]

is joke

[hardy spear]

[twilit lodge]

Whoever was asking, slippery requires infernal

As is expected

Roiling is the one that says standard encounters

Otherwise you would have to fight more hydra heads 💀

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699090167788470284/1031667051758092401/unknown.png

Holy moly

[twilit lodge]

Trash build where’s your damage smh

[vital tapir]

big hourglass

[rustic vale]

Encounters:
Slippery
Addled
Excruitating
Halting
Caustic
Atrophic
Slothful
Paupers
Maimed
Flayed
Roiling* (wth is a “standard encounter?” Why does it specify standard?)
Abyssal
Chambers:
Enshrouded

[twilit lodge]

Non boss or mini boss

[rustic vale]

Ih lol

[twilit lodge]

So you don’t fight an extra thwomp

[rustic vale]

Makes sense

[twilit lodge]

[rustic vale]

If only I could fight 50% more heroes

[vital tapir]

bring me the second lernie

[twilit lodge]

Lernie but it spawns extra heads and you still only have to kill 3 and 6 to phase her

[vital tapir]

imagine two blue heads desynced

[twilit lodge]

Screen just covered in heads

All blue

Flurry serrated or flurry triple

[rustic vale]

Triple

Flurry serrated is actually bad

[twilit lodge]

Serrated funny tho

Oh ok Ty

[rustic vale]

You take flurry or the serrated, both is worse iirc

[twilit lodge]

Serrated chaos dash curse chaos run curse

Speed crawl

[sly ridge]

real

[rustic vale]

I bet dash range is additive knowing Hades

[hardy spear]

does it scale with speed?

[sly ridge]

having an attack curse while using arthur is pain

[swift inlet]

holy c35 than

[twilit lodge]

Holy died to dad because build never happened

[rustic vale]

Matty rn

[swift inlet]

this is why you use god keepsakes

[twilit lodge]

I did

Zeus showed up twice the whole run lmao

[sly ridge]

i only got 1 hammer by elysium

[swift inlet]

I highrolled into midshop patty fountain ixion flame wheels release

I love it here

[sly ridge]

that stupid wave projectile upgrade, shadow slash, or the jumping lunge thing

[rustic vale]

The only real way to scale hoarding slash is dedge and greater reflexes

Piercing wave or shadow slash

I’d take shadow slash

[sly ridge]

i did

im just saying what my choices were

[twilit lodge]

Not getting hammers isn’t the worst outcome for sword

[native blade]

Ayo, fellow Talos enjoyer.

[rustic vale]

On arthur sword it’s ok

[sly ridge]

real

[twilit lodge]

Imagine a sword run with c1 world splitter cursed slash and dash nova

Uninstall Hades

[sly ridge]

im getting an anvil in styx first chance i get

i dont care what i get as long as its not piercing wave

[twilit lodge]

50% Hermes chance wins

[swift inlet]

so um

5:25 ely

[sly ridge]

i am in ely with epic divine strike, epic heart flourish

and rare tidal dash

[latent moon]

Gaming

Sub 7 able

[swift inlet]

low key fr

I forgot what my beo sub 7s were

[latent moon]

Is this Hera?

[sly ridge]

oh nice

another hammer chamber

[latent moon]

6:40 was one of them

[swift inlet]

Sorry

I mean the ely exits on those runs

[latent moon]

Ah

Prob similar

[swift inlet]

I actually don't think it was this fast

[sly ridge]

piercing wave, super nova, or double nova

[swift inlet]

this ely was insane

[latent moon]

Piecing or super

[native blade]

Doing a Talos run rn.

[sly ridge]

i do need double for the prophecy tho

[rustic vale]

Double nova bad because you can dash out of it before the second nova goes off canceling it

[latent moon]

Take double then

[sly ridge]

im kinda willing to do double when my special already does like 300+ damage

[sly ridge]

when do you dash for it to cancel

[rustic vale]

uh

Anytime before the second one visibly starts to shoot out iirc

[sly ridge]

heroic divine flourish or epic heartbreak flourish

[native blade]

Lez go, I got Divine Dash, Heart Break.

[sly ridge]

epic

ill just keep heartbreak flourish

ah yes

1100 damage backstab

[twilit lodge]

Me when I accidentally open curse of drowning

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[sly ridge]

whats curse of drowning

[rustic vale]

Ares + pos

[sly ridge]

oh

[rustic vale]

Is cringe and not great

[native blade]

What about 1200 front stab?

;]

[sly ridge]

seamare moment

[twilit lodge]

Pauper curse right before bouldy

Cringe

[sly ridge]

oh yeah

how do i do sisyphus' favor

i got the prophecy unlocked

but i dont know what to do

[twilit lodge]

Talk to nyx

Also get sissy’s hearts maxed

Maybe become friends with bouldy idk

[sly ridge]

already talked to nyx

[twilit lodge]

Then do what she told you to do

And you’ll unlock a new item at the contractor

[vital tapir]

just keep playing the game

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1031675491452715068/unknown.png

ce acquired

[sly ridge]

is there anyone in this discord server who unironically likes theseus

[vital tapir]

nice 3 well defiances lmao

or is that patty

probably patty.

[twilit lodge]

Sexy eeyore*

[rustic vale]

Yes

you

[sly ridge]

what

[twilit lodge]

Exposed as filthy Theseus enjoyer

[sly ridge]

dont do this to me

[twilit lodge]

Canceled for being a Theseus apologist

[swift inlet]

Eww

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372719694932869122/1031666736669413476/unknown.png

Theseus enjoyer

[sly ridge]

when have i ever openly said i liked theseus

or said it at all

[twilit lodge]

Have you ever denied it?

Hmmm

[sly ridge]

theres such thing as being neutral

[native blade]

Do these stack?

[swift inlet]

BEST BOONS

[rustic vale]

Y’know I’ve never seen Talos Enthusiast and theseus in the same room

[swift inlet]

BEST BOONS IN GAME

[native blade]

True.

[rustic vale]

They are multiplicative

[native blade]

Indeed.

[native blade]

Noice!!!

[rustic vale]

so they stack but they do it the worse way

if it was additive it would be better

[twilit lodge]

They only stack if you’re being hit by enemies near you 🤓

[native blade]

Oh.

[rustic vale]

If it were additive you could have 100% damage reduction

[strong ridge]

you can get 100 dodge anyway

[twilit lodge]

Using three reroll tokens to get common rd

[rustic vale]

Temporarily

[twilit lodge]

📈

[sly ridge]

so i used the anvil

lost double nova

and got breaching slash and piercing wave

[rustic vale]

rng manip

Oh rad

[strong ridge]

even on the off time it’s still probably better than equal dr

[rustic vale]

perfect

[twilit lodge]

Rng manip until you get cursed slash

Arthur is tank aspect, needs healing

[strong ridge]

curse slash ri2 time

dozens of hp

[sly ridge]

no elite enemy is safe from me anymore

wait

is the damage i do to armor additive to shadow slash

[rustic vale]

Yes

Both hammers are additive damage increases

Breaching and shadow are both additive

[sly ridge]

finally i can take out those annoying satyrs so much easier

no more armor!

still dont get whats good about piercing wave

[rustic vale]

Well

It’s better on non arthur swords
On arthur it’s still good but not as much

[sly ridge]

i dont get how the 30 damage could be good at all

[strong ridge]

most options for sword don’t give you 30 damage

also deals with dc good

[rustic vale]

Normal sword dstrikes a lot faster and standing strikes way faster then arthur tbf

And it’s affected by global additive

[twilit lodge]

Whose trident do I have to polish to see Zeus more than once per run smh

Oh wait it’s probably Zeus

Why even ask

[rustic vale]

and the bar for “good” sword hammers isn’t high

[strong ridge]

at least 1/3 are detrimental

[sly ridge]

yeah but i dont see how piercing could be good at all for arthur

[strong ridge]

it’s not really spectacular

[rustic vale]

On arthur it’s mediocre

[twilit lodge]

It’s good because it’s not detrimental

Welcome to sword hammers

[strong ridge]

well for arthur ig pwave would help a lot with its dc issue

but otherwise

[rustic vale]

it’s also just free damage

And goes through shields which can be helpful

[sly ridge]

ah yes

[strong ridge]

30 thru shield is basically 0

[sly ridge]

fr

[rustic vale]

can

[sly ridge]

arent the first shield enemies in ely anyways

where they have a few hundred health

[rustic vale]

The only shield enemies reallt are in ely

[strong ridge]

can’t they be in boss phase 1 ?

[sly ridge]

cant they be spawned by hades too

[strong ridge]

yes i think

[rustic vale]

aside from erebus and hades fight sometimes

[sly ridge]

what does the made friends along the way thing relate to

[strong ridge]

ur friends

ur good pals

etc

[rustic vale]

Maybe the real {insert x here} was the friends we made along the way

[strong ridge]

it means u met all 3 special people in the run

[sly ridge]

maybe the real heartbreak flourish was the friends we made along the way

[rustic vale]

Maybe the real aspect of Beowulf was the friends we made along the way

[strong ridge]

the real beowulf was the bugs along the way

[twilit lodge]

2 second Styx bother miniboss lol

[swift inlet]

my brain hurts

I was robbed of sub 6:50 by voidstones

[quiet lily]

Were my mirror and pact choices really that based?

[swift inlet]

actual worst enemy pattern I'd rather deal with em4

[latent moon]

what's wrong with 6:50

[rustic vale]

Everything other than legacy on your victory screen is based

[quiet lily]

Or cursed? I don't know well enough to tell which one is being serious.

[latent moon]

sub7 is sub7 unless you wanted to get a pb

[swift inlet]

it was a pb lmao

[latent moon]

cursed lol

[rustic vale]

Oh wait cp1 and em4

[twilit lodge]

Lc1

[swift inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1030685905457008761/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676

By nearly 2 minutes too

[latent moon]

em4 is fine for 32 tbh, but then cp1 also makes dad have like a total of 12k hp more

[rustic vale]

Aside from cp1 em4 and god’s legscy I think that pact+ mirror is based

[swift inlet]

8:44 spike down to 6:50

[latent moon]

no i meant overall pb

not weapon pb

[quiet lily]

Why is god's legacy bad?

[crystal star]

I JUST BEAT HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I HAD SUCH A GOOD BUILD AND I GOT THE BAG THING SECOND TRY AND HE REGAINED HIS WHOLE HEALTH BAR 😭

[rustic vale]

Doesn’t do enough

[twilit lodge]

The bag thing?

[quiet lily]

Increased chance of duos?

[crystal star]

In styx

[latent moon]

it do be like that

[twilit lodge]

Oh satyr sack

[rustic vale]

Not enough to be important over god’s pride

[twilit lodge]

Imagine how dad feels when he realizes you have 4 health bars 😱

[rustic vale]

plus I have plenty of god’s legacy slander photos

I practicslly have a collection

[crystal star]

How

[rustic vale]

Death defiances

[quiet lily]

extra health and em4 is cursed?

[crystal star]

Oh i have 2

[twilit lodge]

Kind of like how you felt when you realized dad had two health bars

[crystal star]

yeha

[quiet lily]

I mean, I figured I would deal enough damage with this build that it wouldn't hamper me all that much.

[rustic vale]

Cp1 is cursed for 32 it’s unnessarily making your game harder when other options exist

[crystal star]

If i had a different aspect i would have one probably

i only have 2 but i was trying it out

[latent moon]

pact: em4 is valid enough if you feel like doing it, but there are easier pacts to do at 32 but whatever. the issue was that you paired it with CP1, which gives bosses so much more hp. that 1 heat could've gone to HL or LC or even JS.
mirror: high confidence over thick skin is definitely lowkey based at high heat lol. people typically would run thick skin just for more hp.

[rustic vale]

Doesn’t sound like you beat him to me

[latent moon]

they're using beo

beo uses legacy

[rustic vale]

Oh true

Nevermind

Double damage is that important and beo doesn’t need rarity for anything else really

[twilit lodge]

Beo uses legacy? But my purple flood flare

[rustic vale]

Rarity on flood flare is garbo

[latent moon]

rarity doesnt matter too much yeah

[quiet lily]

High confidence + Firey Temper makes Bull Rush 1-shot witches in Tartarus, and I tend to find the healing througout most of my runs recently, so the extra damage felt like an ok trade-off.

[rustic vale]

Unless I’m reading what you wrote badly

[twilit lodge]

But my purple snurstrare crop second boon

[latent moon]

yeah for sure, but it's more like
for your first 32 most people would go on the side of safety of more hp

nothing wrong with it

that's what we call a based pick

[quiet lily]

Heh.

[crystal star]

How much does thick skin upgrade to

[latent moon]

50

[twilit lodge]

It’s bursed

[quiet lily]

50 hp

[crystal star]

ok

Thanks

[twilit lodge]

50 hp

It’s 50 hp

[quiet lily]

I wasn't thinking I was going to get Rush Delivery, but the extra damage is always nice.

[latent moon]

hyper delivery is busted lol

[twilit lodge]

But like

Common hyper

Is so short

[latent moon]

it's still a boost

you're short

[rustic vale]

greater delivery 💪

[twilit lodge]

It’s not still a boost if the speed runs out before your damage hits lol

[latent moon]

0.5 compared to 0.7 isn't that much of a difference

[latent moon]

that's a skill issue

[quiet lily]

It was something at least.

[rustic vale]

Skissue

[twilit lodge]

Skillet chew

[quiet lily]

Wait, RD only applies when you've moving fast the second you're making some kind of attack?

It's not just a static bonus once you get it?

[rustic vale]

It applies when you have bonus movespeed

[twilit lodge]

I mean the damage is based on bonus movespeed

[rustic vale]

It’s a percentage of your bonus movespeed

[twilit lodge]

Which if hyper sprint is your only source, means it only lasts however long after you dash

[swift inlet]

oh yeah

[latent moon]

well they weren't exactly wrong when they said this

the only wrong part is, you have to have the move speed boost when it hits rather

[quiet lily]

Huh, good to know for future reference I suppose.

[rustic vale]

and movespeed is multiplicative so you can get it huge through well itmes

Hyper sprint + rush delivery is big 👍

Real gamers rng manip +10% movespeed from bouldy for this reason

[quiet lily]

I wonder if I'll ever get a sub 12 clear.

[rustic vale]

Yes 👍

I can do it so can you

[quiet lily]

Have you seen me play the game? lol

[rustic vale]

No

That is irrelevant
You can get better

[quiet lily]

I would normally joke rng is a skill, but it seems like in this game it technically is since rng manips are a thing?

[rustic vale]

And almost unarguably will get better as you play more

[rustic vale]

Rng manipulation is a thing

[quiet lily]

that goes way over my head on how to do.

[latent moon]

rng manips only really utilized in routed runs

[rustic vale]

It’s just inprecise

[raw herald]

Rng manips are only legal in seeded runs

[swift inlet]

^

[twilit lodge]

I wonder if I’ll ever get a sub 10:00.48 clear

[raw herald]

The vast majority of runs are unseeded

[rustic vale]

I can’t spell for the life of me

[raw herald]

You will

[swift inlet]

I do them in unseeded runs just so I can bask in the comfort that whatever happens next is my fault alone

[latent moon]

tmw you forget to record previous death but have a banger run

[rustic vale]

Rng manipulation is real it’s just not precise

[raw herald]

Been there done that

[rustic vale]

so you need to trial and error it till it works

[quiet lily]

Didn't I post a clear screen the other day with a level 23 Passion Flare and Mirage Shot for Beo?

I feel like I did.

[raw herald]

I think I remember that

[swift inlet]

I can't be as salty if I get trash chaos boons if I spammed summon and cast 43 times before entering 🧠

[twilit lodge]

Lv23 passion flare

[raw herald]

Build isn’t everything though

[quiet lily]

4 duo picks and 2 legendaries that run, that was just funny.

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1030685253368545343/20221013181659_1.jpg

[raw herald]

Rooms matter a ton

[rustic vale]

This one?

[raw herald]

And enemies

[twilit lodge]

Wait does summon change rng even if you don’t summon anything? Game changer

[raw herald]

(sacks too)

[rustic vale]

It does

[quiet lily]

Yeah, that was just silly.

[rustic vale]

I mean

Level 50 dio would be mega silly

[twilit lodge]

Past me trying to manip anvil into cshot while playing Stygian trippy:

[quiet lily]

It may have been on another run where I got Fully Loaded and Posiedon's pushing legendaries.

wut, level 50?

How?

[rustic vale]

Lvl 51 is possible w/out mods

Higher than that is probably possible

[quiet lily]

Sweet Nectar + lots of Poms + keepsake then?

[raw herald]

Yea

[rustic vale]

It’s just the highest I’ve seen has been 51

[twilit lodge]

Starting passion flare and still getting mirage shot is gaming

[quiet lily]

Does Sweet Nectar affect the keepsake?

[rustic vale]

No

[twilit lodge]

Meanwhile I barely get mirage with flood shot start on beo

[rustic vale]

Lvl 50 hangover would be giga gaming

I think you legit take fated authority for it

[twilit lodge]

Surprised my phone didn’t autocorrect beo to bro like it usually does

Browulf

[quiet lily]

I didn't always get Mirage Shot starting with Passion Flare in these last several runs, but I still managed without it.

Not going to lie, I would have prefered getting it on those runs though.

[rustic vale]

Of course you would’ve preferred the runs if they had gotten double cast damage

🧠

[quiet lily]

Unrelated, but my game files are slightly altered, the only thing different is that Aphrodite's protrait is replaced with Artemis's portrait, that's it.

[rustic vale]

Based

Like the one in zag’s bedroom?

[quiet lily]

Modest is hottest, and I'm still surprised Aphrodite's design wasn't altered more for a game of this rating.

No, the boon portrait.

the same one that's used for her in the codec.

[rustic vale]

Wha

K I think I understand what you mean but it seems like a pointless alteration

[latent moon]

that's why you dont start passion if you want mirage lol

[quiet lily]

pointless to you perhaps.

More modesty is preferable to some people.

[swift inlet]

wait what

so she just looks like art?

[quiet lily]

Yes.

[swift inlet]

So every aphro boon

[quiet lily]

There's 2 artemis's in my codec as far as artwork is concerned.

[swift inlet]

Is just art giving it to you

Amazing

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/lfh2eu/theseus_gets_a_booboo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[tepid light]

I mean do you expect Aphrodite, goddess of love and lust to be modest

[twilit lodge]

[tepid light]

Mb

[native blade]

Isn’t she Love & Beauty?

[tepid light]

Love, lust, beauty, sex

[swift inlet]

All of the above

[tepid light]

All that stuff

[vital tapir]

her status is weak i think

[quiet lily]

I mean, they altered other aspects of Greek mythology for modern sensibilities like the convoluted Alabama family tree being re-worked.

[native blade]

Ah.

[twilit lodge]

She’s the goddess of rubbin’ booty, not love and beauty

[tepid light]

Yes but there's a difference between avoiding incest and invalidating what the god is all about

They kept elements such as Athena being loved as a paragon of strategy and wisdom and Ares being despised as a ruthless murderer that delights in bloodshed

Why would they change how Aphrodite is portrayed in the classics as lustful, flirtatious, and vastly immodest

I get the feeling you're more just uncomfortable with borderline nudity itself

[quiet lily]

Because that level of immodesty honestly should have landed the game an M rating imo.

[tepid light]

Rather than believing that Supergiant should have censored Aphrodite

[native blade]

I don’t think they strayed that far.

She’s literally naked.

[twilit lodge]

Ever seen Ancient Greek statues?

[tepid light]

They make sure to avoid showing her actual private parts, which may seem like a minor change to you but that's an important distinction between an M rating and otherwise

[quiet lily]

She makes the game harder to recommend to people without also inviting them to the hades modding server and walking them through swapping her art for Artemis's artwork.

[native blade]

No duh, but that’s a matter if personal preference.

[latent moon]

?? just recommend the game like a normal person

[tepid light]

I literally don't understand what you're saying here

Like what

[latent moon]

you make it sound like the game revolves around aphrodite lmfao

[tepid light]

You're also assuming everyone finds Aphrodite's portrayal as disturbing as you

[quiet lily]

She is the main character though. /jk

[latent moon]

she's hardly important

[twilit lodge]

There’s a poster of her in zags bedroom

[latent moon]

you can take that down

[native blade]

Point is, it’s just not that deep.

[twilit lodge]

That’s more disturbing

[tepid light]

'Personal preference' is exactly the reason why I'm so confused by what he's saying

[quiet lily]

It's not some what-if I described, it did make a friend uncomfortable and I had to walk him through swapping the portrait out.

[native blade]

Yeah, I got that. My b.

[twilit lodge]

To be fair I have a friend who only plays handheld because they don’t wanna explain to grandpa why there’s a naked lady on the screen

[latent moon]

lmfao

[vital tapir]

yea if you’re 12 years old aphrodite is p bad

[twilit lodge]

Not everyone lives alone or plays in a private setting

[latent moon]

spam skip dialogue 🧠

[tepid light]

Well I'm sorry about your friend, but I echo my previous point: it's an incredibly rare occurrence that someone would be so put-off by Aphrodite's design, and the simple fact is that her portrayal is consistent from what a player would expect from the infamously flighty and lecherous Greek Goddess of Love and Lust.

I'm sure someone out there is offended by Ares being a murderous maniac, but no one's going to ask Supergiant to change his design. I'm sure someone out there is troubled that all the gods don't wear much clothes, but again: that's not a reason to change the art design, because it makes sense.

[magic fern]

it's beowulf time

I have unlocked the beowulf

[quiet lily]

Or maybe people care about modesty in general? Beauty and love shouldn't immediately equal nudity, and it's not like they stuck with accurate protrayals in every other department of the game's lore.

Aspect of lucifer being a prime example of that.

I accept that I've got a different and minority opinion on this topic.

[remote iris]

3 of my fav daedalus hammers just came up

do i pick pefect shot, relentless volley, or chain shot for Aspect of Rama

[rustic vale]

👆

[tepid light]

But the more you change, the farther you stray from the source material, and the less compelling it becomes for the consumer.

They've already changed a lot about the lore as you said, from the incest stuff to the gods not being complete horndogs like they are in classic greek mythology. But eventually, it gets to the point where you're clearly just changing things for the sake of changing things.

We can argue all day and night about the "definition of beauty" in general, but the point is that the Greek Goddess Aphrodite was an infamously shameless and flirtatious person, and so it stands to reason that she'd be portrayed in the immodest way she is in the game.

[swift inlet]

Bruh the greeks just had naked mfs because it showed off their anatomy skills

People painted nudes to appreciate the human form or whatever and flex that they can draw flaccid peens

[remote iris]

bro whos so offended by breasts that they go into the files and change the artwork

[tepid light]

^ Indeed. Having no nudity in Hades is already a significant concession to modern sensibilities.

[swift inlet]

I'm also pretty certain they designed her a la birth of venus

aka literal artistic nudity censored by hair

[tepid light]

And even if that was a coincidence (which it most likely wasn't), it's still a very believable way to portray Aphrodite in general.

[swift inlet]

Side note I'm chilling with an achilles run after that hera mayhem

[tepid light]

good ol achilles

[swift inlet]

no hb components but I have lightning phalanx in the cards

Hopefully I get it, that'd be fun

[rustic vale]

Game has curses such as bl**d and d*rkn*ss, it should be m rated

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004618422094667777/1031694610516414524/unknown.png

[tepid light]

Oh yeah that's another thing

[swift inlet]

lernie tax fraud

[rustic vale]

We can’t have children seeing that

I mean reading

[tepid light]

You can't convince me that the greek gods wouldn't swear like sailors if they had access to modern lingo

That's another concession

[swift inlet]

some would be more discerning

poseidon would swear like a sailor for obvious reasons

[tepid light]

Ares too

[rustic vale]

I should start using bl**d and d*rkn*ss instead of regular curse words

[swift inlet]

hestia would shake her head

[tepid light]

dionysus

[vital tapir]

the british empire and its consequences

[rustic vale]

The real questions is which words can be replaced by bl**d and/or d*rkn*ss

[swift inlet]

s and p

500

[rustic vale]

D*rkn*ss is 2 syllables doesn’t work as good as a curse

[tepid light]

Blood and darkness

[rustic vale]

Omg where is Dyno rn

[twilit lodge]

Blood and dorkness

[rustic vale]

[tepid light]

I'll say it in bold too

Blood and darkness

[rustic vale]

Dyno really lacking today

[twilit lodge]

I like to eat eat eat

Bleed and deerknees

[tepid light]

Get ready for this though
BLOOD AND DARKNESS

[twilit lodge]

I like to oat oat oat

Bload and dorknose

[rustic vale]

That was anticlimactic as hell

[tepid light]

ur mom

[remote iris]

athena wouldnt

artemis maybe, and maybe apologize riggt after

[tepid light]

aphrodite would toss in some naughty words, just to be scandalous

[swift inlet]

Artemis literally has an army of her gal friends and is only ever around them by choice

She'd cuss non stop because she can do what she wants

[tepid light]

plus she's all about living outside of civilization and in the woods, who's gonna stop you from swearing

[swift inlet]

Also lightning phalanx is hilarious for heroes fight

[twilit lodge]

Very this

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/l776j6/literally_died_of_thirst/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_term=link

[twilit lodge]

Roddit dot com

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/628664449972305965/1031710459105132564/IMG_3002.jpg

[rustic vale]

🧠

[native blade]

[crystal star]

How high can you upgrade aspects

[rustic vale]

level 5

[crystal star]

Ok

[magic fern]

how do I not die with guan yu

[vital tapir]

don’t use standing attack

[magic fern]

ok

[rustic vale]

You can’t die with guan-yu if you know how to build it and lack a severe skissue

just focus on building the special

Take charged skewer

Use arte or aphrodite on special

Get more special additive from chaos

I don’t don’t lack a severe skissue

Don’tn’t if you willp

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/jjtuy2/i_thought_id_met_everyone_in_hades_but_has_anyone/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/kjxkji/demeter_cast_build_be_like/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_term=link

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aQha_gJJc4sQHg1SvkGhTc_xyJX2qzRmmhQPgYXCX7M/%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc37f7b785c5b12f2fb5c65751fbea1aecfebf53b/https/preview.redd.it/6r32dcp2jb761.png?width=1114&height=701

[magic fern]

I went with guan yu and died to theseus :/

[rich gulch]

Your mistake was laying your hands on that spear aspect in the first place.

[rustic vale]

When did so many guan-yu haters get here smh my head my head

We should purge all the guan-yu haters from the sgg discord server rn

[rich gulch]

Please. You'll be doing the gods' work.

[magic fern]

do I really have to sit and use this lyre 300 times for the prophecy

[rustic vale]

210 times

Just play a few times between rums

[magic fern]

oh I put on a podcast lmao

[magic fern]

approval process consistently blocking the best choice

[latent moon]

mood

i had mirage shot blocked 4 times in a row with 2 boons

and then the next run twice again

reroll

wasn't offered at first, rerolled and saw it crossed out, rerolled and saw it crossed out again

and then next room, saw it crossed out, rerolled and saw it crossed out

[vital tapir]

i’ve had runs where i sold a duo or legendary 3 times then get offered it again

[native blade]

Theorycrafting is very easy to get lost in.

[latent moon]

@native blade i guess since it's zag fists it doesn't matter too much what you put on the special

curse of vengeance might be better actually since it takes a core

[snow skiff]

I'd put tempest flourish for the op yoyo build

[latent moon]

so you could slap whatever you want for the cast (as long as it doesn't open any duos) and hunt for low tolerance and curse of nausea

[snow skiff]

If you remove 'zagfists' and add 'talos' zagfists is talos

[latent moon]

cant argue with that

[rustic vale]

Curse of vengeance is better because it doesn’t take a core

And doesn’t open up most other ares duos

[latent moon]

well you already have 3 gods if you want those two duos mentioned earlier

if anything taking a core is better so you have less to fill for pseudo ap1

take like crush shot

or any of the other casts

[rustic vale]

I guess but ares special opens CoL

[native blade]

Ofc.

[latent moon]

oh forgot about CoL

yeah vengeance is better then

[snow skiff]

*any other

[rustic vale]

then pick your poison, throw on zeus for zeus call smair, or perhaps pos for tdash + sweet nectar on your hangover

[rustic vale]

Vengeful mood 😳

[native blade]

So… Dio atk then?

[snow skiff]

What i would personally do is arty attack dio special -> splitting headache, then sell dio special for aphro special -> heart rend, then sell arty atk for zeus atk -> smair dadcall

[rustic vale]

Dio attack for fists

[native blade]

So Curse of Longing is worse?

[rustic vale]

Truely 4.000 iq

[snow skiff]

Doesn't open vengeful mood by itself

Need an ares core

[rustic vale]

You don’t want it

[native blade]

Ah.

[snow skiff]

I think

[rustic vale]

so you take curse of vengeance so you don’t open it

Since hangover builds care about their hangover more then the doom and doom fiends poms as much as hangover does

Curse of vengeance is purely there for the duo

[native blade]

What should I put dio on then?

[rustic vale]

?

[snow skiff]

Nasty dash

[latent moon]

nasty dash is so based

[native blade]

I need Dio for Low Tolerance right?

[vital tapir]

curse of longing kinda ass

[native blade]

Ok, Dio Dash then.

[rustic vale]

What are you smoking rn that you need to ask that

Noo

Put dio on attack

you are using fists righg

[native blade]

Oh, so you were agreeing with me.

[native blade]

Ye.

[rustic vale]

The whole build relies on your hangover

You do not want hangover from your dash

[native blade]

Ok.

[rustic vale]

You get aphrodite on your special for low tolerance

And curse of vengeance from ares for curse of nausea

Then you either go zeus call for smoulder air or pos dash for sweet nectar

Put all your poms on hangover when you have the option to

[native blade]

Kk.

Oh yeah, I got Meg Companion.

[latent moon]

aspect of duos

[rustic vale]

Equip them

[rustic vale]

Still run pride

[latent moon]

this is big "if you get 4 duos on chiron it actually feels good to play" energy

[rustic vale]

But hangover works without any duos

chiron… is chiron

[latent moon]

true

well chiron also uses hangover

[rustic vale]

Chiron applies it dumb

[latent moon]

what are you trying to say then

[rustic vale]

And isn’t as cool as fists

so is obviously worse

[latent moon]

true

i finished 32 heat on chiron easier than i did with fists lol

[rustic vale]

Also look for hyper sprint and rush delivery idk if you know about them I know you’re a relatively new player but don’t know how much your game knowledge spans

[native blade]

Yeah, fists is just objectively the most based weapon.

[latent moon]

beo in shambles

[rustic vale]

Most based weapon is actually zag rail

[native blade]

Yeah, I’m clueless about a lot but Ik Plume and Rush Delivery are a great synergy.

I couldn’t unlock it this time before Styx tho.

:/

[rustic vale]

Hyper sprint and rush delivery have way better synergy

[twilit lodge]

[native blade]

Well yeah, but I have Plume.

[rustic vale]

why do you have plume

[native blade]

Cuz Zagfist Plume Gaming.

[rustic vale]

true

But plume and hyper sprint are not mutually exclusive

[native blade]

Also that’s been my winning combination for the past three runs.

[native blade]

TrueZ

Why not have all three?

[rustic vale]

hyper sprint works way better than plume with rush delivery

and it means you can take other keepsakes

[latent moon]

well taking plume opens rd so you could get it first hermes

and you can buy ichors

not a bad strat

[twilit lodge]

That’s different than using it for the whole run

[rustic vale]

Chironic Uniron Enjoyer

[twilit lodge]

Unaruably Enjoyment

[rustic vale]

Arguably moment

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/k643un/that_must_be_my_problem/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[twilit lodge]

This tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997466907030605934/1031773991062470656/IMG_3574.webp

[native blade]

OnlyFacts.

[polar marsh]

The shades when they see zag be like

[native blade]

Indeed.

[twilit lodge]

Sea storm c13

[magic fern]

how does dad call work

[twilit lodge]

It makes you invisible for a period of time and your first attack exits the stealth and does bonus

[rustic vale]

that’s small call

[twilit lodge]

Or full call makes you “unseen” for 5 seconds and you do more

More than the small call bonus dmg

[magic fern]

ok cool

[twilit lodge]

If you equip the keepsake in the courtyard you can look at dad call tooltip

[magic fern]

so it's good with big damage things like hera and beo?

[rustic vale]

Ye

[twilit lodge]

Epic snurst offered when I’m playing eris

Preemptively complaining about no cluster offered from this hammer

So I get cluster

Let’s see if it works

It did

[twilit lodge]

Dad dialogue for finishing bounties I think?

Or else it’s for em4 but if so it’s way late

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997466907030605934/1031787585263112214/IMG_3576.jpg

[native blade]

Huh.

Weird.

[latent moon]

that might not be em4

because like

pacts are meant to add difficulty

and hes like "damn you still beat me with all those pacts"

[twilit lodge]

Tbf

He says conditions

Single pact

But tru

He was talking to than when I came back from em4 so I’m forever thinking I missed some em4 dialogue

[latent moon]

"conditions" can mean anything really

[latent moon]

do it again lol

[twilit lodge]

It was ez

Tbh

But it was just em4 so lol

I know Nyaanyaa was talking about em4 in #h1-high-heat-strategies and it definitely isn’t easy at high heat

[latent moon]

oh yeah def not

mainly hl5 and hs being a pain

and you might not have a good build because of ri/ap

obv if you learn the fight it's def not too bad

but a lot of things can go wrong quickly

bad summons, pots, bad timings

[twilit lodge]

What could possibly go wrong smh

Just beat your dad up in the dark

[native blade]

What’s HL again?

[twilit lodge]

[latent moon]

hard labor

all the abbreviations are pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[native blade]

Oh, I keep forgetting that even though it’s so obvious:

Thank you.

[latent moon]

np

[twilit lodge]

HL is the currency of the Disgaea series of games

But here it’s Hard Labor, enemies do more damage

Hmm c2 Aphrodite on fists

Maybe I won’t go ME

[latent moon]

did you start doom atk?

[twilit lodge]

Yeah

Switching to dio

[latent moon]

lmao based

[twilit lodge]

Low tolerance dem fist sounds fun

[latent moon]

i've never done drunk fists

big fan of zap fists tho

[native blade]

I hate Zeus so even though I begrudgingly accept that he one of the best I ain’t taking one of his boons if I have a choice.

[twilit lodge]

That was me for a while

[native blade]

I am gonna do an all Zeus run at some point, but it ain’t gonna be now.

[twilit lodge]

Should have gone zap fists smh

Since he has shown up twice now

3 times lmao

[native blade]

Lel.

[latent moon]

Why do yout hate Zeus lol

[native blade]

Bruh.

Because he’s a poopoo head.

[latent moon]

Thats not very descriptive

[spice hearth]

I dunno, if a poopoo head is offering me lightning powers, i’m taking the lightning powers regardless of the poopooness of their head

[latent moon]

Based take

[magic fern]

tight deadline has been ruining me

[latent moon]

Rip

Td1 rn?

[magic fern]

yeah

[native blade]

That’s fair, but if I’m completely honest I like hating him.

[spice hearth]

Also fair

[native blade]

What weapon?

[magic fern]

I'm kinda just switching between weapons

[latent moon]

Pause before making decisions, always take free rooms, don't take trials

[spice hearth]

Why do you think you’re taking so long to clear each room?

[latent moon]

And if you're still struggling maybe pick up some meta builds

[magic fern]

I think I might just try to get shield shot

then steamroll everything

[latent moon]

Based

[magic fern]

I think the problem is I'm combining it with other pacts

[latent moon]

Which ones

Js cp and dc will impact it

[magic fern]

I'm just trying to get the pact prophecy done

but now all I have to do for that is win with td

so maybe just 1 heat shield run

[spice hearth]

Honestly, try doing EM 1234 first before doing the minion affecting pacts

[magic fern]

then never touch td again

[latent moon]

Lmao

Once you get better at the game, td becomes a lot easier

[spice hearth]

Td123 are basically free heat after a while

[magic fern]

that's reassuring because I got the game 2 weeks ago

[native blade]

Ye.

[latent moon]

That's good progress lol

[magic fern]

I have crippling hades addiction

[spice hearth]

Ah i remember when i was 2 weeks into the game

[latent moon]

It do be like that

[magic fern]

I have done my 10th win today

[spice hearth]

Good job!

[latent moon]

Gaming

[native blade]

Nice, I’m working my way there.

Tryna maintain my streak while keeping em fun.

[magic fern]

I was looking forward to beating up hades with beowulf shield but I wasn't keeping count

anvil gave me shield shot+faster charge

[latent moon]

Based

[magic fern]

ok I gotta go sleep

[native blade]

Same, I’ve found a balance though, taking a break rn.

[vital tapir]

just keep climbing heat and then take a break after you die to lernie 5 runs in a row

👍

[twilit lodge]

Picked midshop through enshrouding

Boom

[latent moon]

just get the rooms

[twilit lodge]

Man I wish I had never learned about the summon button affecting rng

[latent moon]

get than -> patty -> miniboss -> fountain through enshrouded tbh

[twilit lodge]

I keep trying to make this c2 Aphrodite seed work

I got epic aphro flourish this try so I’m probably sticking with it

Imagine doing 80% more with dem fist special when you could be doing 140% more

[latent moon]

what did you start this time

[twilit lodge]

🤜🤛

Zeus

[latent moon]

based

[twilit lodge]

Hmm what to bring to asphodel

I already have Zeus aphro pos and arty

Guess I’ll take coin purse bc I don’t want to bloat my pool

[latent moon]

you could take one of those gods' keepsakes to get a duo

what do you have pos and arty on

[twilit lodge]

Jk forgot Poseidon only gave me cast

So I’m taking him to get dash and or sea storm

Arty pp

Pos cast

[latent moon]

yeah i would do that

[twilit lodge]

Not me getting dunked on by an armored inferno bomber

Sea storm from barge and then splash dash from random bag at endshop

Ayo

And I got eury, this run is lucky

Well not anymore since I got an extra enemies chaos curse and the worst Elysium rooms imaginable

[twilit lodge]

Simply get mirage shot c7

7:15 ely exit

2sack plz

When you have a c2 cshot c7 mirage shot run and still manage to not Sub10

I should uninstall and play candy crush instead

[lean timber]

you should uninstall... now

[twilit lodge]

Uninstalling…

[brisk trail]

POV: you’re a wretched shade

[twilit lodge]

TRUE

[brisk trail]

Wow aspect of giglamesh is op

[lean timber]

lol

[devout terrace]

facts

[rich seal]

What's the base legendary and duo chance?

[raw herald]

12% iirc

10% for miniboss

For some reason

[rich seal]

Mini boss has higher rare/epic chance but lower duo/legendary?

[rustic vale]

💀

[rustic vale]

Yup

[umbral summit]

For a specific seed, does choosing different doors result in different rooms (when it comes to things like boon rewards, not special rooms like Charon's shop or the region's special NPC), or do you just get the same room except with a different reward?

Like, if I wanted to encounter solo Asterion but didn't see him, would restarting the run and choosing different doors let me encounter him, or do I need a full reset?

[rustic vale]

It would affect rng yes

I believe

But you can go through multiple miniboss chambers in elysium

And by the point you hit the end of elysium why are you giving up the run rather than going all the way

[umbral summit]

Mostly if I didn't think I could beat Hades that run (loadout didn't work well, out of revives, etc.) and wanted to save a few minutes

Not a big difference, but was just wondering

[rustic vale]

Just try anyways!

[umbral summit]

Another question; do you get a new set of rewards for every level of heat up to the limit, or does it start skipping heats later?

I know, but do you get a set for every heat before that, or do you say, have to start increasing heat more than 1 to get to the next tier at some point?

Okay, thanks

[rustic vale]

I think it goes up by 1 heat each time iirc

Up to 20

Matty went from 8 to 32

I went up 1 heat each time up to 20 then jumped to 32

[umbral summit]

That's what I'm doing; I'm hoping to have all the accessories maxed out by the time the runs start getting hard enough that I need to actually focus on builds

[rustic vale]

💪

Completionist gaming

me when I still need a little over 200000 darkness for mr resource director

[umbral summit]

Makes me sad that bosses halt damage completely when getting to their next phase

Would be nice to chunk Meg from 50% to 0 with Than's keepsake

I think Witch's Circle is my least favorite miniboss unless I've got a good deflect boon

And I just realized I could have just killed several of them instantly with my keepsake

I keep forgetting about it outside of bosses

[umbral summit]

Do mini-bosses with spawning adds, like the giant rat and the giant butterfly ball have infinite adds, or do they stop after a while?

[raw herald]

Good question

[umbral summit]

Also, why is my summon unavailable? I'm in Styx and I used it on the giant rat miniboss, and I wanted to use it in a later chamber against a group of armored satyrs, but it's unavailable

I've still got uses left

[umbral summit]

Hmm, maybe

[umbral summit]

Minotaur Rush + Sudden Rush makes shield a lot more fun

[high island]

Either you were out of summons, already summoned in the chamber, or tried to summon vs Hades. Most summons are unavailable against Hades initially.

[obtuse lark]

I had the worst run possible (didn't get any duo boons, got gods I really didn't need, wasted all 3 death defiances in elysium and had around 50 hp remaining) and then just casually nohitted the temple of styx and hades.

[strong ridge]

ezpz

[umbral summit]

Wait, one of the post-clear messages has Zagreus die by stepping on a cactus?

oof

[strong ridge]

yes he gets into all sorts of tomfollery

[stable dagger]

Daily reminder that everyone should praise Artemis the goddess of the hunt as she is best girl in the pantheon

[native blade]

Artemis Supremacy.

[chilly edge]

yes

[rustic vale]

based

Best girl in pantheon
Best girl in hades is bouldy

[chilly edge]

Guys question

[latent moon]

answer

[rustic vale]

Guys answer

[chilly edge]

Oh can't send pics

[rustic vale]

Send the image link

[chilly edge]

Can't

Whatever, I'll describe

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1027412687799468042/IMG_2293.png

[chilly edge]

So basically, there's a room with skull, it's locked
How to enter in

[rustic vale]

Like so

[chilly edge]

Oh

Too late

[rustic vale]

Is that the right photo I can’t remember

and it isn’t loading for me

[umbral summit]

Probably means you haven't picked up the room reward yet

Or talked to Thanatos if he's in the room

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[umbral summit]

Or touched a fountain in some of the fountain rooms

[rustic vale]

Or haven’t talked with the npc

Or haven’t killed all enemies yet

[chilly edge]

I haven't ever met Than

[rustic vale]

Still holds true

What type of room are you in

[obtuse lark]

Erebus gate?

[chilly edge]

I have no idea

[umbral summit]

Not Erebus if he's not met Than yet

[rustic vale]

Erebus gates are like chaos

[obtuse lark]

Send a pic.

[rustic vale]

What type of room are you in?

[chilly edge]

Bru

[rustic vale]

Pop up from ground

[chilly edge]

It's not a room

[rustic vale]

No what room are you in now

Your current chamber

[chilly edge]

I'm not in Hades rn

xd

[obtuse lark]

🤨

[rustic vale]

Are you talking about hades bedroom in the house of hades

[chilly edge]

Maybe

[rustic vale]

Is it in the house of hades

[chilly edge]

Yes

[rustic vale]

I can’t remember what the information log chamber or hades bedroom door look like but it’s likely one of those 2

[umbral summit]

The NW and SW doors are locked until you get story progress

[chilly edge]

Damnnnn

I see

Yes

[umbral summit]

At some point in the story you'll be able to buy the key to the SW door from the remodeling guy, but the other 2 locked areas in the house are purely story progress