#h1-discussion

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misty jungle
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ok i did sone testing and something strange is happening, everything is the exact same (except shades and stuff obviously) except boons, the boons are different but nothing else is

rustic vale
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Do you mean the c1 boon?

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Which aspect did you switch to from which one?

twilit lodge
misty jungle
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nvm my questions are unimportant

twilit lodge
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C1 is the same, c2 can differ depending on the enemy that spawns in c1

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And rng changes from attacks and casts start to change the rooms beyond

rustic vale
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i think almost everything will change apart from c1 unless you’re particularly lucky with your rng manipulation

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I think I’ve been able to intentionally keep it the same all the way up to c4 before?

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Routed runs though

twilit lodge
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🎵 Under the mortal ring 🎵
🎶 Prisoner to his kiiiiiiing 🎶

cyan anvil
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I bought hades yesterday and accidentally played it all night

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Please send help I’m addicted AF

misty jungle
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we're all in the same position

cyan anvil
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What’s the best weapon

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I kinda think it’s the globes or the shield

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What do you think

chilly flume
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Is there anything I can do to increase odds on the flame wheel shop item?

lean timber
lean timber
cyan anvil
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How do I upgrade my weapons because I only have the base forms of them

lean timber
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you have to beat the boss

misty jungle
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hey guys my aspect of nemesis doesnt have any particles after i use special

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is there something im missing or is sonething broken

gray apex
cyan anvil
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Alright sounds good

gray apex
short glen
gray apex
short glen
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Pretty sure winning changes house rng

misty jungle
gray apex
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Yea winning changes the house rng

cyan anvil
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I’m playing shield

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What boon

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Divine strike +40% or divine dash 10

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@gray apex

twilit lodge
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Take ddash

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And probably don’t ping people

signal aspen
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@people

misty jungle
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if someone were to use mods to allow you to use authority on normally unusable doors, what would happen if you used authority on a door that takes you to the next level?

twilit lodge
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Find out and tell us

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Maybe it takes you to the safari zone but you can use normal pokeballs

old dawn
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maybe you actually escape

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who knows

magic fern
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just beat charon with doom shield

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that's what he gets for charging ridiculous prices

misty jungle
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hey guys, so im at a predicament, i can afford charon's titan blood (im mid early-mid game rn so titan blood is still pretty usefull) but i also have hoarding slash

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should i keep the money for the extra attack damage or get titan blood

rustic vale
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Hoarding slash kinda bad
Is your damage good anyways?

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And when I say kinda I should’ve said really

short glen
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Doesn't increase nearly fast enough to be worth not buying boons

latent moon
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as a hammer, hoarding slash is neutral
in practice, you shouldn't build for it lol

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or "save" for it rather

misty jungle
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so not really but kinda ish

rustic vale
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What boon on attack?

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and which sword?

misty jungle
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nemasis sword

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and i dont have anything on attack (this was a terrible run)

rustic vale
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Are you dash striking or relying on world splitter rng

rustic vale
latent moon
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what lmao how do yo not have an atk boon

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do you have a special, dash, and cast boon

rustic vale
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It’s practically impossible to not find an attack boon in a run

misty jungle
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I DON'T KNOW HOW MAN

rustic vale
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And nem sword can really roll with anything on attack

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other than like poseidon

misty jungle
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ok so should i buy the titan blood

latent moon
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are you confident you can actually win with what you have

misty jungle
latent moon
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because if you buy it and lose, it's gonna have the same impact as if you didn't buy it (to buy other stuff) and win

misty jungle
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ill probs buy it cuz i highly doubt i can win with my current loadout

rustic vale
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4 possiblities
Buy it and lose
Buy it and win
Don’t buy it and lose
Don’t buy it and win

latent moon
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i'd simply buy it and win

rustic vale
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don’t buy it and lose means 0 titans blood

rustic vale
latent moon
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i'd simply buy it and win

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buy yeah buying it is the safest option tbh

short glen
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^

rustic vale
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It means you at least guaranteed get 1 titans blood

latent moon
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the fight is gonna suck because you dont have an atk boon, but if you do happen to win it'll be a nice bonus lol

misty jungle
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im pretty sure that my only chance at an attack was demeter and because i had world splitter at the time a 10 stacking effect didnt seem like a very good thing when instead i took the beam cast

rustic vale
latent moon
misty jungle
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eh well anyway ive missed it now so i doubt ill win so ill buy it

latent moon
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do you have any more tunnels to go through or did you already get the sack

rustic vale
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Plus you don’t need to stack chill a bunch to profit from demeter attack

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And chill lasts 10 seconds anyways so you’d probably be able to keep up a decent amount of chill stacks

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Plus you can just dash strike and completely disregard world splitter

short glen
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You could also use Arthur and get free wins

misty jungle
latent moon
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but did you get the sack yet

misty jungle
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nah

latent moon
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so go get something on your attack lmao

misty jungle
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ok

short glen
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Inb4 tunnels go: Oops! All hearts

brisk trail
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Oh shit

latent moon
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ayo dyno bot where you at

brisk trail
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If you put full heat in the 11th time you fight hades

latent moon
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isn't it 10th

brisk trail
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Well he doesn't even fight you that time right?

rustic vale
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10th time

brisk trail
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10th yeah sorry

latent moon
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you got that off reddit didnt you

misty jungle
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ok luckily i got deadly strike

latent moon
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i saw that this morning lmao

misty jungle
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so i atleast got something on my attack now

rustic vale
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bruh 64 heat clear for 10th clear shadesmile shadesmile shadesmile

brisk trail
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Yeah😂

latent moon
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60 is highest

rustic vale
rustic vale
brisk trail
rustic vale
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hades reddit is a super bad source of information

latent moon
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it doesn't have a lot of good builds lol

rustic vale
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I mean if you’re looking for reasons other than information then it should be fine

latent moon
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i've rarely ever seen anything correct

misty jungle
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why do fishing spots only appear sometimes

rustic vale
latent moon
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lmao i dont know what other answer you expected

short glen
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Probably some kind of trigger

latent moon
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oh yeah the subreddit has some cursed pacts

rustic vale
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40 heat with no td bouldy

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54 minutes holy

latent moon
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frost strike eternal beam luci lol

misty jungle
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yeah i died before even reaching second phase glad i bought the blood

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hey guys so apparently you need to spend 5 titan blood in all weapons inorder to get hidden aspects but i got guan yu despite not doing that

rustic vale
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No

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You don’t need 5 blood in all weapons

magic fern
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I accidentally sent theseus into phase 2 early with hunting blades, which forced me to get a new time record on heroes

rustic vale
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Iirc

latent moon
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you need 5 aspects unlocked to get guan yu i thought

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oh wait

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yeah yours make more sense

misty jungle
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oh ok

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thanks

latent moon
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5 TB in a non-zag aspect for a weapon gives you the hidden aspect for that

latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
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yeah

misty jungle
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which weapons do you guys reccomend getting secret aspect on first (after gy)

latent moon
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shield is fun

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bow

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sword is hit or miss

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same with rail kinda

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fists is garbage but fun

rustic vale
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All of them

misty jungle
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im pretty good at hitting my shots with swords

strong ridge
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shield and bow secret aspect are very good

latent moon
misty jungle
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well im gonna focus on sword because the npc is the easiest to talk to

strong ridge
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sword is objectively ok but i like it a lot

magic fern
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do I need all spear aspects for guan yu

rustic vale
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Hidden sword good because it removes 2 bad hammers and 1 neutral hammer

latent moon
umbral summit
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Zagreus's "Uh..." the first time you do Extreme Measures and get to Tartarus's boss is kind of funny

magic fern
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I have 5 aspects bought so do I just have to wait for achilles to give it to me?

latent moon
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yeah

crystal star
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Guys can you still find and fight the other furies

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And how do I unlock the gold things in keepsakes

rustic vale
crystal star
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i havent beaten the game yet btw

crystal star
rustic vale
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It just happens

crystal star
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In tartarus?

rustic vale
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The fury fight switches between the different furies at random

crystal star
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Or the story? Or after I escape

rustic vale
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In tart

crystal star
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I always get meg tho

strong ridge
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you sound farish away from it but it happens soon enough

rustic vale
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I think you have to beat meg an amount of times before that starts happening

crystal star
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Oh

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The farthest Ive gotten was to styx and than I died immidietly

strong ridge
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f

crystal star
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And now i get to elysium every time

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but I die before the boss

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Also how do I fosh

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i have the rod but i cant use it ever

latent moon
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look for fishing spots

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it's a glowy beacon thingy

crystal star
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And what do I do with ambrosia and titans blood

umbral summit
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You can't use Titan's blood for much until you have all 6 weapons

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Just trading, which I suggest against at that point in the game

high island
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Titan Blood unlocks and upgrades weapon aspects. Ambrosia is for character affinity same as Nectar, just a higher tier.

crystal star
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And how do I unlock the gold things in keepsakes

latent moon
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advancing bonds with certain characters

crystal star
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And why havent I found any demeter boons

latent moon
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you have to reach the surface for that

crystal star
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oh

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Why is there no apollo boons

latent moon
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because he's not in the game?

high island
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Because Apollo is boring. dusa

crystal star
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Oh why not

high island
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Because Apollo is boring. dusa

latent moon
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iirc the devs wanted different gods that weren't as popular

high island
swift inlet
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Artemis doesn't really have much to do in the story either, but she still makes more sense than Apollo

strong ridge
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hades somewhat mimics traditional mythology in that sense because not every god has a role in every story

swift inlet
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She has a kindred soul in Zagreus since neither feels like they belong around their family, and to an extent would have the same relationship with Hades if they'd talked since Achilles points out their similarities

crystal star
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Whos patroclus

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When do i find him

strong ridge
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play more

swift inlet
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Achilles' partner, killed in the trojan war

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And the entire reason Achilles decided to fight after swearing he wouldn't

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Mans was so pissed he found the prince that killed Pat, killed him, then dragged his corpse around behind his chariot as he rode around the city walls

latent moon
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relationship goals

strong ridge
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nep most of things will just happen the more you play

swift inlet
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Apollo also wouldn't make much sense because he'd just be kind of a repeat of Dionysus

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They're both laid back pretty boy frat boy party animal himbos

crystal star
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Do i find patroclus in elysium

strong ridge
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id say apollo is much more prideful than dio

crystal star
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like you find siph guy and that slinging lady

strong ridge
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yes

swift inlet
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Yes

crystal star
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Whos the worst boon

swift inlet
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Smoldering air

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Worst duo

crystal star
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whos the best call

swift inlet
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Worst boon

swift inlet
crystal star
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Whats she do

swift inlet
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Thats why smair is bad

strong ridge
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zeus has best base dps and dio poms the best

swift inlet
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She shoots an arrow that does 700 damage

crystal star
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Dam

strong ridge
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arty and aphro can breakpoint bosses so they have use

swift inlet
strong ridge
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dang

swift inlet
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Sorry, more experienced players are just trolling

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Best boons are most likely between splash dash and divine dash

crystal star
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I just beat meg only using the poseidon dash boon cuz I did a chaos right before the fight that made me lose health when I attacked

swift inlet
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Splash invalidates an entire region and is just free big damage, divine dash is just defensively busted

strong ridge
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ambiguity 1% gives zag more zwag

swift inlet
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  • offensively busted against witches
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Those are witches

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Witch type enemies

misty jungle
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inorder to get hidden aspects can you buy zagreus upgrades?

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k ty

mint coral
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Thats only for gy

crystal star
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Whos the best goe

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God

strong ridge
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magnets

crystal star
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And how to I get companions

mint coral
old dawn
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haha hermes go brrr

strong ridge
misty jungle
crystal star
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Ok

mint coral
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The others can use it

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Gy is 5 non zag aspects
Others is just invest 5 blood on weapons

lean timber
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guan yeezy

old dawn
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yea i was confused about wiki info when i saw fists get gilgamesh with only max zagspect

misty jungle
mint coral
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Luck issue

mint coral
crystal star
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Any way to garuntee boond

misty jungle
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ohhh

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i see

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alright ill upgrade zags on my sword

mint coral
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Zag sword gaming dusa

crystal star
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How to get duo boons

mint coral
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Get core boon from 2 gods, chance to get duo from either of them then

misty jungle
crystal star
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Is sword good

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I like it the most

mint coral
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Can look at requisites on wiki or codex if you have its upgrade

strong ridge
twilit lodge
crystal star
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I dont have one

mint coral
strong ridge
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dang

mint coral
twilit lodge
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Curse of Nausea can unlock from a core and a non-core

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🤓

signal aspen
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just use codex mod for c1 duo boons

cyan anvil
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How do you get more casts does it come from mirror upgrades?

latent moon
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Mirror can give +2

old dawn
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mirror, chaos

latent moon
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You can get more from wells, chaos, or arty legendary

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True

tepid light
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i don't think i've gotten artemis legendary once when playing a castspect

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i always get offered it when playing something like arthur

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and i'm just like

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"why"

old dawn
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lol

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ye xD

crystal star
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What character s can i give nectar to

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Ambrosia i mean

tepid light
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You can give ambrosia to characters for whom you have maxed out your hearts

mint coral
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Tidal dash + artemis special moment

crystal star
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Guys is the cursed slash on sword worth it

cyan anvil
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Shield of beowulf is so far my favourite weapon

misty jungle
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i think sword is the only time i prefer using zagreus aspect rathar than other aspects

umbral summit
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Got a question. I've just unlocked access to the administrative chambers, and the Orpheus and Achilles quests have both mentioned their pacts a couple of times, with the implication that that something needs to be done about them before resolution can happen. I don't see anything in there regarding those quests; does that mean I just need to progress them more by talking to them?

tepid light
tepid light
umbral summit
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Okay, thanks

crystal star
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Hwats administrative chambrrs

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And whats the pacts

umbral summit
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Pacts are extra difficulty modifiers you can put on runs after you've completely escaped at least once

crystal star
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Ok cool

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And the chambers?

umbral summit
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The administrative chamber is what the door on the west part of the home area goes to; you can unlock it later in the game, and it's used in story and quests

crystal star
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Btw do you ever get access to hades room and nyxs and the purple tree room

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ok coop

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When do you unlock

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do i need to escape?

umbral summit
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At some point you can buy access to the administrative room at the remodulating guy, but I'm not sure what the conditions are

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I didn't really notice when I first got the option

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You can go into Hades's room eventually as part of the story, but I'm not sure if you ever unlock it to enter freely

sly ridge
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you can

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i believe its after persephone returns to the house of hades when you can enter freely

magic fern
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ok I thought styx was easy until I picked fists and got wrecked

sly ridge
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talos superiority

misty jungle
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hey guys so ive unlocked nemesis, unlocked poseidon, and have upgrades zagreus 3 times on blade, do i qualify for the hidden aspect yet?

old dawn
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ah yes fists and the curse of getting poisoned all the time

umbral summit
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I didn't really like the fists until getting the aspect that draws enemies in on the special

old dawn
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i liked them the moment they were unlocked, but man they do take a while to get used to

umbral summit
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The gun is my least favorite weapon unless you get one of the reforges that makes the special really awesome

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Like the triple or spread shots

twilit lodge
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Either way unless you have guan yu revealed (not necessarily unlocked) you’re not eligible for the hidden sword

rustic vale
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You need 5 blood in it
And guan-yu revealed

rustic vale
rustic vale
twilit lodge
sly ridge
rustic vale
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Non zag aspects is only for unlocking gy

misty jungle
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wtf how did i mispel that so bad

twilit lodge
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Then you just need to uhhhhhh I don’t remember the rest

misty jungle
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but yeah i got the spear

misty jungle
twilit lodge
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Talk to nyx until she tells you the phrase

rustic vale
misty jungle
twilit lodge
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A what now

misty jungle
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now i just talk to nyx whenever i can

rustic vale
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Illegible shadesmile

twilit lodge
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Sounds like it (to talking to nyx whenever)

misty jungle
rustic vale
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Eligible is the word you were looking for

misty jungle
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ok

sly ridge
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the big sad

twilit lodge
misty jungle
sly ridge
twilit lodge
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Holler Knight

sly ridge
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hole night

twilit lodge
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Keep it clean dusa

sly ridge
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what

misty jungle
sly ridge
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hollow knight fans when the bug gives them the plague instead of love and affection:

misty jungle
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zagreus seems to have inconsistensies with charon, i fight and he says before the fight "right so taking the coin is a sign of fighting" or something then next time i take the coin to fight he immediatly forgets and say "thanks charon" or something

umbral summit
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Can you deflect Hades's laser beam?

sly ridge
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hades laser beam is the equivalent of a brimstone laser

misty jungle
umbral summit
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I was wondering if standing it in during Athena's call would make you laser him instead

misty jungle
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i did that once and you just become invincible

umbral summit
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Ah, too bad

misty jungle
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unfortunately no opposite Lazer

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also he gets iframes as the move ends but not while the move is happening no idea why

sly ridge
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id experiment with that cuz i have a chaos curse

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but its the one that increases the enemies

lean timber
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it doesn't as far as i know

sly ridge
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i love fighting 79% more enemies for 37% more attack damage

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i have a question btw

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is there a list of all the dialogue that characters have from using their companions

misty jungle
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not sure but i doubt it would as i dont think the game classifies curses as "attacks", rathar just taking away your health, and I don't think invincibility can block direct health taking

sly ridge
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ive tried the wiki

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in my opinion

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there should be a pact

misty jungle
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what's td

sly ridge
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that makes curses from chaos more potent

twilit lodge
sly ridge
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(completely pointless pact)

sly ridge
twilit lodge
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If you need free heat just run em4

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That last phase was a joke

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I didn’t even get to hear the new music

sly ridge
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🗿

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i feel personally offended after that one time i beat em4

high island
umbral summit
twilit lodge
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That’s negative heat at that point

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Guaranteed chaos gates sign me up

sly ridge
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make every chaos curse the more enemies one or caustic

umbral summit
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Just have to tweak it to make them negative, like having the penalties be permanent

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Or just last a really long time

sly ridge
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inferno bombs when enemies die

twilit lodge
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More damage I think

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Oh inferno bombs

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Inferno bombs free

sly ridge
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exactly my point

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what if someone make a mod that made every enemy flame wheel except for bosses

umbral summit
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A mod that makes every enemy turn into Elysium regenerating blobs when killed

twilit lodge
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Ddash stocks go through the roof

twilit lodge
sly ridge
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10 flame wheels at the start of a run

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every flame wheel room has at least 2 of those blue brimstones

umbral summit
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Do the Elysium warriors drop gold when you kill their first form, or just when you perma kill them?

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Wondering if you can farm for infinite gold if you aren't on a time limit

twilit lodge
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Mans wants that diamond

sly ridge
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i honestly dislike the nemean chariots more than flame wheels

umbral summit
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I thought Numbskulls don't drop gold

cyan anvil
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YO I GOT AN HEROIC BOON

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What is it

sly ridge
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at least flame wheels have barely any health

cyan anvil
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Heroic divine dash

sly ridge
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but my god i cant stand when i get swarmed by like 3 elite chariots

cyan anvil
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Is it good?

twilit lodge
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Only at lv50

cyan anvil
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Rip

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How do you level up

umbral summit
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I like to take the Zeus or Athena casts, which mop up Flame Wheels really well

cyan anvil
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Oh

sly ridge
twilit lodge
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I like to just kill them

umbral summit
sly ridge
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gotta be my second least favorite enemy in the game

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(screw satyr cultists)

twilit lodge
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Pro strat: take peer pressure and drunken dash to easily kill flame wheels

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/j

sly ridge
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of course you'd think that heroic

devout terrace
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styx unarmoured enemies are a joke

twilit lodge
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Drunken dash is nasty dash smh

devout terrace
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But armored they are worse than elysium in my opinion

signal aspen
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yeah

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2 hp

sly ridge
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i love being sniped from across the room by a satyr cultist because i wasnt able to see the projectile shooting towards me

devout terrace
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If you unironically go to a non miniboss encounter on purpose on BP2 you will get clapped enormously hard

cyan anvil
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2hp and I have to fight a boss

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Rip

signal aspen
umbral summit
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My current build is shield Aspect of Zeus + Special damage bonuses, so the Flame Wheels just walk into their deaths

devout terrace
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Sacc unmodded

twilit lodge
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Why can’t every chamber in tunnels be two unarmored bothers

devout terrace
sly ridge
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why does a vase have so much health anyways

signal aspen
devout terrace
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Doubt

sly ridge
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why do the bothers have guts inside of them

devout terrace
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I once got 5 sacks in a row bro

signal aspen
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they are when you are about to pb

devout terrace
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3 5 sacks in a row

twilit lodge
sly ridge
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i always get lucky with sacks

signal aspen
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no angel doesnt do a lot of runs

devout terrace
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I don't play unmodded

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I used to

devout terrace
sly ridge
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nearly always on the second

devout terrace
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I play like one hour every few days

signal aspen
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idk tho

devout terrace
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Occasionally its a heat record, occasionally I just die in ely over and over and then rage quit

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Very healthy

signal aspen
devout terrace
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Considering how winning doesn't give me satisfaction

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But losing ruins my mood

sly ridge
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this only applies to the final huge room

signal aspen
sly ridge
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tf is the cerb skip

devout terrace
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Society if being trans was actually a choice, would be so nice to not have crippling dysphoria

signal aspen
umbral summit
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Lmao, Aspect of Zeus wrecks the butterfly miniboss so hard

signal aspen
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fr

sly ridge
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society if people didnt hate primal aspids for no reason

signal aspen
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what the hell is a primal aspid

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did i miss a hades update

devout terrace
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Say heck from now on 👍

signal aspen
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heck

sly ridge
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this is a blood and darkness moment

devout terrace
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This is the highlight of my day btw

umbral summit
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Wow, spinning shield toss completely ignores enemy shields

signal aspen
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chaos still better than zeus

devout terrace
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Who would win
Hades, god of the dead, king of the underworld
Or
One spinny disk

sly ridge
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whats the least amount of health you can have in the game

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like max hp wise

signal aspen
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christian server

umbral summit
sly ridge
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is it fr possible to have 1 max hp

devout terrace
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Yes

signal aspen
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0

umbral summit
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You can get a -49 hades curse I believe

devout terrace
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high confidence and -49 chaos

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its so funny

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You don't even get high confidence from 1/1

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Literal scam

sly ridge
#

whats high confidence

umbral summit
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Or a hades curse, then accept the -60% HP sword reforge

devout terrace
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You need atleast 2 hp to trigger high confidence

sly ridge
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oh god what does any of this mean

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theres a hades curse???

cyan anvil
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1 titan blood for 200 gems that’s a good deal

eternal marlin
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you can mod your health to negative values and you'll only die once you get hit bouldy

sly ridge
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o h

signal aspen
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i wish i had high confidence outside of hades

sly ridge
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im pretty sure the only green side i have in mirror is the fated persuasion one

eternal marlin
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dunno

signal aspen
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i wish i was thick outside of hades

devout terrace
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uwu

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(Ultimate weapon Understanding)

signal aspen
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uone weapon uonly

umbral summit
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What's max boon level? I've never seen higher than 5, I think

signal aspen
#

there isnt a max boon level

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highest ive seen was like 51

umbral summit
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Wow

signal aspen
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owo

umbral summit
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How do you even get it that high in 1 run

signal aspen
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get some poms

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skill issue

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is YOUR CHILD texting about HADES (game)?
brb - big rare boon
lol - lots of louts
smh - so many hydras
tbh - that boy hypnos
sfw - skeleton for work
stfu - sisyphus teaches friendship unconditionally
tfw - that freaky wretch
rofl - reaching olympus for laughs
idc - i die constantly
btw - boons too wild

umbral summit
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Oh sweet, Dionysus's cast also ignores shields

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3rd boss is my least favorite just because of that shield

tired karma
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would u rather have ur kids play hades or fortnite

lean timber
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fortnite

signal aspen
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Fortnite

native blade
signal aspen
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No

native blade
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You’re mean.

signal aspen
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It's not even mine

native blade
old belfry
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based content stealer

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free upboats

signal aspen
# native blade Oh, cool, I don’t need to worry then.

You know why I despise speedrunners? They keep hiding behind this illusion of speed called cheating while it doesn't matter what they do, they can compete in ANYTHING and still be winners. If they don't use any exploits, they will still form a ladder of champions. So WHY use exploits? It adds nothing. It simply makes the path shorter. Like running 95 meters instead of 100 at the Olympics. Who the hell cares how much if they BOTH run the same distance?

Instead of all this nonsense I'd gladly see a skill contest. Show something cool. Show how quickly you can destroy enemies, not run the game. Show aim, show dodging, show anything that requires skill, not being boringly cheating. And no, I don't care how much time they spend seeking these exploits. In fact, the amount of time they sink into that is absurd. To me it would be impressive to see how fast people can master a game starting at day 1 when they bought it. ANYONE can find shortcuts if they waste YEARS playing the same damn maps over and over. This is insanity. This is repetitive actions in hope of different results. That's mud. The illusion of speed, not speed. Since every second saved took them a month of practice. BS. Olympic runners train too? Well they can run ANYWHERE, they gain real skill. A speedrunner cannot use the found exploits in any other game, they suck at games, they can't shoot, can't teamplay, can't do anything. Otherwise they'd become champions of, say, Dota International. They don't take part in any money winning competitions because they suck. That's why to me it's the lowest cast of gamers. Even below MMORPG farming no-lifers. What they do is beyond boring. 97% of speedruns should not exist due to being ungodly boring.

native blade
signal aspen
#

Post this in there

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They gonna love it

native blade
umbral summit
#

What's the status effect that Hades gives you (from the green skull fireballs, I think) that causes effects on the edges of the screen?

rustic vale
rustic vale
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Makes hades do +100% damage

umbral summit
#

Ah, I see

latent moon
rustic vale
strong ridge
twilit lodge
#

That’s not the deal you’re getting lol

devout terrace
cyan anvil
twilit lodge
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You’re giving up a Titan blood (rarest resource) for 200 gemstones (most common resource)

cyan anvil
#

Titan blood isn’t that rare

twilit lodge
#

the way you worded it sounds like you thought you were going the other way

cyan anvil
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You get it for killing bosses?

umbral summit
#

I've found more bloods than diamonds

cyan anvil
#

Oh

twilit lodge
#

Gemstones aren’t that rare either bouldy

chilly flume
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Something weird happened on my fight with Redacted just now

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He died to what looked like Thanatos' reap?!

magic fern
#

with 9999?

chilly flume
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And someone said "Reap what you sow" or something

chilly flume
#

Just a scythe

eternal marlin
#

You have Demeter's Legendary.

chilly flume
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I do, just acquired it

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Completely forgot about that

eternal marlin
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That killed him.

chilly flume
#

That makes a lot of sense

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Never saw the effect, got the legendary just before redacted

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Looks pretty nice too

umbral summit
#

Can you earn the ability to post images or clips here?

eternal marlin
#

You can link stuff, or upload victory screens in the boasting channel.

latent moon
sly ridge
#

what would evil theseus be like

cyan anvil
#

Are titans blood an infinite recourse or will you eventually hit the cap and never be able to get them again

umbral summit
#

Even if you include all the songs you still need more blood?

#

blood is infinite

sly ridge
cyan anvil
#

Titan blood is infinite correct?

#

Ah

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Ok

umbral summit
#

You can trade for it, and you can often buy for 1200 gold from Charon in Styx

sly ridge
#

fishing being one i know for

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i forgot which fish it was that you trade for titan blood

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but i know its a surface one

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i think sturgeon

umbral summit
#

From my experience, Charon offers a blood in Styx about 80% of the time

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Which isn't hard to get enough gold for if you save up

sly ridge
#

whats the worst companion

rustic vale
#

Skelly or dusa or mort

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Imo

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Bouldy has situational use

sly ridge
#

how much damage does skelly take

rustic vale
#

Meg always good, fast damage

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Antos is cute

sly ridge
#

ive never tried skelly

rustic vale
sly ridge
#

the

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wait so whats so bad about him then

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if he distracts enemies with 250 health

rustic vale
#

Not much good about him

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I think it just depends on what you value but I don’t really think skelly is worth it over other companions

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the sooner the fight is over the less damage you’ll take over the course of the fight anyways so the other companions which damage the enemies are actually helpful in that regard

sly ridge
#

oh

crystal star
#

Guys

rustic vale
#

Damage solves

crystal star
#

How do I acces the codex

sly ridge
#

wait so why is dusa one of the bad ones then

rustic vale
#

Dusa doesn’t do enough fast enough

sly ridge
#

oh

crystal star
#

How do I access the codex guys

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I bought it

sly ridge
#

are you on switch

rustic vale
crystal star
#

Switch

umbral summit
#

Hmm, to trade an ambrosia for 500 darkness or not

rustic vale
#

On switch it’s the minus button

sly ridge
#

l button

rustic vale
umbral summit
#

I've not yet gotten the chance to use any ambrosia yet, so I'm tempted

crystal star
#

Nah the codex of boons

sly ridge
#

oh

crystal star
#

oohhhh I got it

rustic vale
#

I mean I would always take that now since I have like 30 or 40 ambrosia built up

sly ridge
#

yeah minus on switch shows you all your boons and upgrades you have

rustic vale
#

hmmm

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I can’t remember then

umbral summit
#

I've currently got one of the sides of every category maxed but the bottom 2

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So It wouldn't be a huge boost

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I guess i'll hold off

#

Currently all red except for Family Favorite, Gods' Legacy, and Fated Pursuasion

rustic vale
#

God’s legacy bouldy

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where is your dark foresighg

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Turn on dark foresight and god’s pride

umbral summit
#

Mostly boosting God's Legacy so I can get all of the Legendary and Duo ones at least once for the codex

#

Then I plan to switch it

sly ridge
#

tbh i dont see whats so good about dark foresight

rustic vale
#

Hammers boons centaur hearts obols, instead of darkness gemstones keys and gifts

sly ridge
#

i thought that it made the gemstones and that stuff appear more often

umbral summit
#

I still need tons of darkness/gemstones

#

Not so much keys, but I can trade those in

rustic vale
#

you will get more resources by actually just winning which is why dark foresight good

umbral summit
#

At least right now, I prefer +40% rarity to boons

rustic vale
#

Noooooo

umbral summit
#

My heat isn't high enough that I really fail yet

#

Still working up to get each set of rewards

rustic vale
#

Winning faster means you’ll get resources faster too

sly ridge
#

what is yalls fastest time to beat a run overall

rustic vale
#

Uhh

latent moon
#

6:42

rustic vale
#

A slow 10:30

sly ridge
#

jesus how do you manage to speed through the game that fast

latent moon
#

modded gaming

rustic vale
#

Knowing vaguely what I’m doing

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I don’t mod my game

sly ridge
#

my fastest was with aspect of eris with like 25 minutes 💀

latent moon
#

i mean modded doesn't make you play better lol it just removes the bad rng

rustic vale
#

My fastest is dioris

rustic vale
latent moon
#

flood mirage beo gaming

umbral summit
#

I'm still building up my stuff, and I usually take my time, but my fastest is about 25

latent moon
#

very nice

rustic vale
#

Still haven’t got sub 10 shadegrief

umbral summit
#

Does Hades have any TAS runs?

latent moon
#

dont think so

rustic vale
#

I don’t think so?

latent moon
#

there's a TAS for picking up the first boon iirc lmao

umbral summit
#

Yeah, I saw that one when google searching Hades TAS

rustic vale
#

I managed to catch myself on a sub1 c1 yesterday

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Like noticed it before I picked my boon

latent moon
#

i've done it twice

umbral summit
#

Is there any story content locked behind beating Charon multiple times, or is it just the first?

latent moon
#

i think there's a fated prophecy thingy

umbral summit
#

To beat Charon multiple times?

rustic vale
#

2 times in a row

umbral summit
#

I see

#

Nice, love it when the reforge you get has good synergy with your aspect

#

Just got Concentrated Fire with Aspect of Chiron

rustic vale
#

Last I checked my bow PB was using chiron as discount zag bow

lean timber
latent moon
#

google it

#

idk

lean timber
#

no that requires effort

#

i hate you

umbral summit
#

I think my favorite build so far was Zagreus Sword + Sword Waves + Doom curse on attack + movement speed + 5 dashes + sturdy dash + damage based on movement speed

lean timber
#

yeah that goes pretty hard

#

that's a nice buff right there

#
  • zag sword has built in move speed so you're seriously profiting off that
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good build

magic fern
#

right now I have a 4 cast trippy shot hera build

#

things die quickly

umbral summit
#

Doom curse didn't do much on bosses compared to how fast I was hitting, but it helped on large groups of normal enemies since I think I was lacking AoE damage that run

#

I'd really love to get Demeter's special damage boost on this run

twilit lodge
#

Demeter trash god

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Hate her frfr

#

Only good for snurst and rare crop everything else can go

crystal star
#

What are all the different hydras

twilit lodge
#

Green yellow purple blue

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I think

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Wiki has info

umbral summit
#

Eww Witch's circle

crystal star
#

Are they different in any other way

#

Ok

twilit lodge
#

They attack differently

umbral summit
#

Least favorite Asphodel miniboss

twilit lodge
#

One summons eggs that hatch into adds, one puts magma everywhere and headbangs 37337383933826262 times, basic one does deflectable projectiles

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Honestly can’t remember the other

umbral summit
#

Last one spits out waves of energy instead of arrows

twilit lodge
#

Yeah that

crystal star
#

Thanks

twilit lodge
#

The miniature heads can have these different types too

#

It’s annoying

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And the arena hides all your cast stones off the edge of the screen if you ever dare to miss a cast

magic fern
#

I thought the lava one and the headbanger were different types

umbral summit
#

If you have 2 dashes you can dash out and back in to retrieve a bloodstone

twilit lodge
#

They all headbang

magic fern
#

yeah but the blue one does it more

twilit lodge
#

Sometimes it’s behind foreground decorations

umbral summit
#

My bigger bloodstone annoyance is if you aren't careful and hit it with your casts right before it turns invincible

#

So you don't have any casts when the adds pop

twilit lodge
#

Also a lot of what I’m complaining about is only relevant to em2

magic fern
#

I thought it immediately drops all bloodstones when it goes invincible

umbral summit
#

Don't need them, but if your cast is decent you can burst one down basically on pop

#

At least if you don't have HP+ pacts on

#

I like to dabble in casts for AoE damage when my aspect is mostly single target

twilit lodge
umbral summit
#

And upgrading them if the other options kind of suck and don't want to reroll

magic fern
umbral summit
#

The boon that makes 10 stacks of chill explode seems like a straight downgrade to me

#

I'd usually prefer -40% enemy speed than a small bit of burst damage

twilit lodge
#

It’s free damage

umbral summit
#

Doesn't it consume the stacks?

twilit lodge
#

It does but if you put 10 on you’ll put more on shortly

#

Unless you running revenge ablast

#

Which is a Chad move

#

No

#

Merciful end Arthur

rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

Dire misfortune says hi

rustic vale
#

That’s why you want merciful end from athena special and the divine dash

rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

You aren’t doom stacking

umbral summit
#

Wasn't great on bosses, but was nice when I had like 10 mobs and I was dashing between them for 1-2 hits at a time

rustic vale
#

Killling freeze also huge

rustic vale
umbral summit
#

Oh sweet, Relentless Volley with Aspect of Chiron and Concentrated Volley

rustic vale
#

Relentless + concentrated volley chiron zagluv

#

Not as good as twin shot + perfect shot chiron but

umbral summit
#

Neat, finished Ares' boons

#

I am regretting picking up Crush Shot

#

Finally, a special additive boon

#

And Shattered Shackle is maxed, so I can drop that deadweight

#

Lmao, I thought I was softlocked

#

Was in a room that I couldn't find the reward, yet the doors were still locked

#

Turns out it was completely hidden behind one of the destructible objects

twilit lodge
#

Shackle is amazing tbh

#

Perception issue

high island
#

Crush Shot is also great.

twilit lodge
#

Nyaa2 Mew2 with the Lady Aphrodite propaganda

#

Crush shot is pretty decent tho

crystal star
#

When do i meet thanatos

#

And how

twilit lodge
#

Randomly out on a run

umbral summit
#

Normally it's good, but on this build my only use for my casts is to apply them to the enemy to get the 50% damage boost

#

So the close range is hurting me

twilit lodge
#

After a certain point in the story

crystal star
#

Ok

twilit lodge
#

Then he shows up in the house after you see him

crystal star
#

I just got to hades for the first time but I just spam buttons so I lost

twilit lodge
#

But only after you see him, is kinda annoying. I’m still getting new dialogue from him when I see him because of this

#

I do believe that than should be able to show up after first time to the surface

crystal star
#

Ok

#

But do i have to beat hades

umbral summit
#

He also shows up in the house moderately rarely

crystal star
#

Cuz i lost

umbral summit
#

I like to keep spare nectars around to give to him because he's one of the rarer denizens

#

I think I saw him before I beat Hades

#

Might be based on total number of runs

twilit lodge
#

After seeing either Alecto or Tisiphone for the first time, Thanatos has a chance to first be seen after the 3rd chamber of Elysium. Once this occurs, Thanatos has a chance to appear in any area except for the Temple of Styx

high island
crystal star
#

But how do i get the other furies

twilit lodge
#

Not intending to make fun of it, sorry if it’s coming off that way.

rustic vale
crystal star
#

I only get meg

twilit lodge
#

Beat meg enough times

brisk trail
#

How many gods do i need for the epilogue?

crystal star
#

Ok

brisk trail
#

Some say 6 and some say all of them

twilit lodge
#

And then you’ll start seeing other furies

rustic vale
#

Everyone is coming to the party so I assume all of them unless my memory fails

twilit lodge
#

Nah it’s only a certain number

#

There’s a prophecy for it tho so like

#

Should be pretty self explanatory

rustic vale
#

Perhaps memory fails then

#

distant memory fails shadesmile

twilit lodge
#

I’m envisioning mensch rationing out ambrosia in advance for the epilogue

rustic vale
#

Just do

#

Why wait

#

Why ration ambrosia you’re just going to end up with more then you need later

twilit lodge
#

Because people like to trade them for blood I gather

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

You’ll end up with more blood then you need as well later

twilit lodge
#

Cuz they want to unlock the best aspect in the game quicker

#

Guan Yu

rustic vale
#

I am praying every time I finished a run to get the trade broker to take away one of my 30 something ambrosia or titan blood for darkness but

#

Alas

#

It does not happen often enough

twilit lodge
#

I did the ambrosia for 500 darkness one time

umbral summit
#

Do any of the speedruns go on the run where Hades just lets you pass?

twilit lodge
#

Because it was all I needed to get the chaos theme

rustic vale
#

Wait

twilit lodge
rustic vale
#

Fresh file to credits

#

right?

high island
#

I invited all of them in one run on my hard mode save, but I wasn't able to invite Master Chaos because you need some dialogue with them and Lady Nyx first.

umbral summit
#

I meant single escape speedruns

twilit lodge
brisk trail
rustic vale
#

No single escape runs skip dad fight by being 10th run

rustic vale
high island
#

Skipping dad fight is not leaderboard legal, no.

twilit lodge
brisk trail
umbral summit
#

Can you get chaos boons in Styx?

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

Oh damn

rustic vale
#

“Victory screen cosmetic”

brisk trail
#

Would've been cool

umbral summit
#

Would be funny to get the Hades skip, then kill yourself using an HP down chaos boon anyway

rustic vale
rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

Liberals owned

rustic vale
#

It cannot kill you it’ll leave you at 1 hp

umbral summit
#

That's a pity

high island
#

It's not like skipping dad fight would do you any good in speedruns, the IGT keeps running after that lol.

rustic vale
#

Oh wait nvrmind you could just grind that before 10th win

umbral summit
#

You could purposefully not progress to that Hades fight until you've grinded up your other stuff

high island
#

You could also just max out all of that with mods, there's no rule against that.

twilit lodge
#

What other stuff?

umbral summit
#

darkness, accessories, gemstone boosts, stuff like that

twilit lodge
#

The only funny thing to do with dad skip would be dad skip 64 heat

rustic vale
#

Can’t em4 before 10th win

twilit lodge
#

L

#

Dad skip 60 heat

rustic vale
#

Last I checked I was like ~210000 darkness away from maxing resource director still a long way to gi shadegrief

high island
twilit lodge
#

Is that why he always dies at her cottage?

#

Mind blown

#

C1 hammer zag spear

#

Exploding charged serrated

rustic vale
#

Explosive

twilit lodge
#

Is charged easier to get later?

rustic vale
#

Charged is garbo without explosive

twilit lodge
#

True

#

Also I should switch god keepsakes now

#

Was gonna splash dash start

umbral summit
#

Does Eurydice still sing in the credits if you've never met her?

high island
#

This time. dusa

rustic vale
high island
rustic vale
#

I’m always right except for when I’m left

twilit lodge
#

This is a crucial decision

high island
#

Both will sing, whether you've met them or not.

twilit lodge
#

I feel like arty always lets me down

rustic vale
#

Zag spear gives you additive obviously arte flourish /j

#

Whichever one you want
I’d use arte but you can do what you want

twilit lodge
#

Wait

#

Zeus flourish

#

I can cosplay Zeus

#

Shackle exploding launcher shadesmile

high island
#

Heartbreak Flourish best, obviously.

rustic vale
#

Nyaanyaa when Lady Aphrodite exists:
zagluv

twilit lodge
#

True, heart rend exploding with 3% pp

#

Basically ten times stronger than arty flourish trash crit chance

rustic vale
#

Arte flourish ain’t trash crit chance

twilit lodge
#

Random crits are fair and balanced

rustic vale
#

When is twin skewer hammer when yoy need it

high island
rustic vale
twilit lodge
#

I’ll just get 4 chaos flourish

#

And bring 5 chimaera jerky to dad fight

rustic vale
#

Obviosuly zag spear giving +25% additive is enough to make up for that

high island
#

Obviously not.

#

Doesn't even inflict Weak either.

native blade
#

She got a point.

rustic vale
#

Just like dedge gives enough additive to justify taking arte strike

rustic vale
twilit lodge
native blade
#

Honestly I think it's a matter of preference and how you use Spear Special.

native blade
rustic vale
#

Idk my best experience with spear special is shackle

native blade
twilit lodge
#

Idk man as

high island
native blade
#

But if you use Shackle u prolly have enough base damage that Arte makes a lot of sense.

umbral summit
#

I had a great single-target build with arrows upon arrows, only for Hades to step aside when I got there. He must have saw my loadout and been afraid

high island
rustic vale
#

Wait bruh that was at 13 heat 💀 shadegrief

native blade
high island
#

Pressure Points is good with Hunter's Mark.

rustic vale
native blade
rustic vale
native blade
twilit lodge
native blade
rustic vale
#

Deadly reversal + shackle big w

#

just sell your cores afterwards

twilit lodge
#

Deadly reversal users when there’s no deflectable attacks:

rustic vale
#

/j imagine taking cores when you have shackle

twilit lodge
#

(They are very sad)

native blade
#

Also... I way underestimated Tight Deadline 3, I beat TD3 easily so I was like "5:00 minutes, Ez clap" and then Meg clapped my cheeks.

rustic vale
native blade
#

Very sadge.

twilit lodge
#

Nah you have to deflect something

native blade
twilit lodge
#

It’s not like ME and exposed which are “attacks that can deflect”

#

Unless the game is lying again

high island
#

There's very few attacks that can't be deflected.

#

You need to deflect something for it to proc, yes.

twilit lodge
#

Guess it wasn’t free

#

If your Sub10 doesn’t save enough time for a 5sack are you even gaming

umbral summit
#

For experienced players that have played through many times before, how common is it to be able to escape on a first attempt?

#

Still pretty rare?

twilit lodge
#

First attempt of a file is doable just very strict

#

Since there’s only 3 gods that can show up

#

I think

#

Or 2

mint coral
#

4

twilit lodge
#

9 maybe

mint coral
#

athena-ares-dio-arte

twilit lodge
#

Possibly 23

#

Why is Zeus being forced onto this exploding launcher run

#

I’m boutta act up and fight Charon in Tartarus to dodge Zeus

raw herald
crystal star
#

Where do I go to use the titans blood

high island
# umbral summit Still pretty rare?

Vast majority of more experienced players here wouldn't be able to beat first run first try. Takes quite a lot of practice even when you get a good build.

crystal star
#

Yeah but how do i use it

brisk trail
#

I'm confused, i just found an article saying you don't need to max out the gods at all for the epilogue, but you do need a heat level 8 run?
And you only need to max out hades and Persephone

native blade
crystal star
#

But where do i use it

#

like theres no option saying use titan blood

twilit lodge
crystal star
#

Ohhh

#

Ok

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Thx

native blade
mint coral
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and no heat is required (technically cuz you still need to get ambrosia)

brisk trail
twilit lodge
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stop getting info from random articles

high island
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Just follow the wiki or what people here tell you for things like that.

native blade
twilit lodge
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Credits moment

native blade
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I'm dumbfounded that I never thought of that.

high island
native blade
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I was worried I was missing important dialogue

twilit lodge
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Me when the unarmored witches don’t die to a single exploding launcher

high island
twilit lodge
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True

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I should never have strayed from the path

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However this was pre flourish

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Not running fiery is why

raw herald
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Shadow presence with exploding launcher is like running it with no darkness invested

brisk trail
twilit lodge
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Max out hades and Persephone and eventually Persephone will tell you what else to do

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And you’ll get a prophecy that tracks it

brisk trail
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Oh cool

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Thx bud

high island
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You don't need max affinity with Queen Persephone or anyone for her to tell you the plan.

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You just need to go through some dialogues first.

rustic vale
native blade
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Oh well.

brisk trail