#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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Yes

rich gulch
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Dad told me to go play with the dog.

livid crescent
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so are people doing this + savescumming until they get the right RNG, or is there some way to fully predict what the result will be?

latent moon
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save scumming is more for eury and anvil

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and there's no way to predict it really

rustic vale
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Just do it till you get the ones you want

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Ez

latent moon
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wasn't aware that existed

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does it tell you want boons you get tho

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because finding the god/whatever you need is one thing, getting the right boon is a different thing

latent moon
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oh that's neat

vital tapir
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i've purged curse of longing 3 times

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certified god’s pride moment

swift inlet
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64 heat strat: highroll into duos just to sell them and get proper boons

oak apex
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how do i unlock the music thats currently “???“ in the music stand?

latent moon
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Buy it

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Or advance story more

prisma wind
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Music that is "???" means you haven't encountered it in the game yet, so you need to progress the story and/or meet other requirements

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Oh, you're absolutely right. I was thinking in the contractor not the music stand

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If only I'd read the question fully squirtheh

oak apex
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i did actually mean the contractor

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ok yeah it must be the charon fight and em4

brisk trail
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i havent seen the bag of money that i steal to fight charon in a long time

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how do i trigger it again?

rich gulch
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You pray to Charon (really hard).

brisk trail
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wtf what

twilit lodge
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Imagine stealing charons lunch money in styxshop

vital tapir
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charon should have a bag in styx that gives you the money without going to erebus or anything but adds him to hades fight

brisk trail
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i almost always choose the other chamber when presented mid shop

twilit lodge
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That’s why you don’t see the bag then

acoustic bolt
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Do any of the melee weapons lack stabby bits?

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Without looking I don't remember

rustic vale
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Fists

twilit lodge
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Fists but there’s definitely somewhere to put a fist that would do bonus damage from behind

acoustic bolt
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I swear all the first aspects have pointy things on them

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Fist*

rustic vale
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I mean sword is more of a backslash than a backstab

twilit lodge
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Honestly shield is the least sensible

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Because you’re bashing

rustic vale
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Shield is bash or slash not stab

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If you look at how it be

twilit lodge
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Petition to rename backstab with shield to backwhack

rustic vale
twilit lodge
acoustic bolt
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The animations don't always match up with whats happening it's not like when Zagreus dodges you can see it

rustic vale
acoustic bolt
twilit lodge
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You can’t see it because he’s just that fast

rustic vale
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He actually stops time to dodge out of the way

twilit lodge
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He’s got… Lightning Reflexes

rustic vale
acoustic bolt
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I think I respect that boon more than it deserves

rustic vale
acoustic bolt
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I'll never take it over something good but I'll take it over revenge or a core I don't want

acoustic bolt
rustic vale
acoustic bolt
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Does it qualify for static discharge

rustic vale
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Yup

acoustic bolt
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Neat

rustic vale
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If you have zeus call w/out smair then it does your jolt work for you

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bouldy it’s lightning yes

twilit lodge
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Is jolted always good regardless of your jolt source?

rustic vale
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jolted doesn’t change by jolt source

twilit lodge
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I feel like with some sources it would be wasted

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If they don’t attack in between applications

rustic vale
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Lightning reflexes isn’t inconsistent

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Like if you hit hades with 10 lightning bolts but he only attacks once

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that means it pops once

rustic vale
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also yes fo2 gaming

twilit lodge
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Ayo I actually hit sneak with bouldy

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Epic brilliant riposte but my only deflect source so far is epic holy shield 😱

brisk trail
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i always save my money until the surface shop, isnt that the right way?

rustic vale
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Use money

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If you have obols you’ve failed the game

rustic vale
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anvil for rng manip

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Buy from well

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Guaranteed chaos and /or yarn are great

twilit lodge
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Lmfao

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The arrow traps in Elysium

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I have two of the trap well items

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21600 dmg

brisk trail
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is 11 heat high

twilit lodge
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11 heat shol

brisk trail
brisk trail
twilit lodge
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11 heat is not very high no

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And the stuff at the end is not much greater than the stuff at shops before

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There’s stronger Poms but they cost more and at the end of a run they’re less likely to hit your damage sources

brisk trail
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ok

mint coral
brisk trail
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does manip mean manipulation

twilit lodge
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Yes

brisk trail
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how do u manipulate rng？？

latent moon
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tbh if you find yourself struggling at any point, then it might be time to turn towards meta builds if you haven't been already

rustic vale
rustic vale
rich gulch
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Rare Crop applies to Hermes boons too, right?

latent moon
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no

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cant hit hermes

rich gulch
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Can't upgrade it through Euridice either then?

latent moon
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you can

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only eury can upgrade hermes

rustic vale
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Eury can hit hermes
Rare crop cannot hit hermes

acoustic bolt
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not to mention being far less likely to die on the way

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once you get to styx you should basically have your damage squared away and the rest is just gravy.

also, without purchasing boons, underworld customs becomes a real problem. having to sell a boon at the end of each biome would be even more limiting.

quiet lily
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I know you can't get Duo boons in trials, but are Legendary boons off the table as well?

twilit lodge
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They are available in trials

rustic vale
quiet lily
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Gotcha, thanks!

rustic vale
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Duos aren’t because… it’s a solo god vs god kinda thing I think

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If that’s a good way to explain it

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Not that that’s ever outright stated ingame it’s just how I rationalised it not being able to happen

twilit lodge
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I imagine it’s a balance thing

rustic vale
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I think it’s more like

twilit lodge
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Otherwise you’d be able to get tart duos ludicrously easily

rustic vale
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Why would a duo occur when it’s 2 gods fighting over each other

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Even duos from outside the 2 don’t make sense to occur

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Y’know?

acoustic bolt
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@twilit lodge yeah lp totally exists if you're not running something that can make good use of a cast

twilit lodge
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First of all

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How dare you say that about Poseidon sword

acoustic bolt
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oh for whatever reason i thought by poseidon you meant aspect of splash dash

twilit lodge
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Even if it is true

rustic vale
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Every aspect of every weapon is aspect of splash dash

acoustic bolt
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yes

quiet lily
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Do rarity boosting effects of "rare or better" influence Legendary boon rng or no?

acoustic bolt
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yes

lost hound
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I havent played this game in

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9 days

acoustic bolt
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they give some % bonus. like 10 maybe? to get a legendary

acoustic bolt
rustic vale
lost hound
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I want to play more but you know how it is with responsibilities

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I also played it a lot within a few days of getting it so im kind of burnt out too

rustic vale
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Speedrunning lets you experience more Hades faster 💪

lost hound
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maybe ill do dumb self imposed challenges

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like i dont know using the rail gun

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not dodging at all

rustic vale
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Not dodging is a bad bad idea

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will be rough

lost hound
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yeah

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I dont know how to take my relationship with achilles further

rustic vale
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Help him with his favour

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Reunite him with patty

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I think!

lost hound
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Patroclus?

rustic vale
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Yes

prisma wind
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Keep it clean, folks

twilit lodge
rustic vale
quiet lily
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I got so lucky this last run

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RNG is a skill

rustic vale
quiet lily
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I got duos 4 times, Mirage Shot, Grasp, Beowulf go brrr, I got both Brosiedon and Artemis's legendaries

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6 casts with Mirage Shot bugged with Beowulf, it just shreds through ||REDACTED||

rustic vale
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it’s already REDACTED anyways

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plus this is #h1-discussion so you don’t have to put a spoiler warning down

twilit lodge
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Based

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Used Meg on sneak and it teleported away

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But still in her path

rustic vale
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Used bouldy on sneak and it hit 😳

twilit lodge
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I did that earlier

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I felt like I joined tds

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Eris dio/arty with splash dash

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Do I take Pom room or Erebus arty

rustic vale
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Pom imo

twilit lodge
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If this run doesn’t go well it’s now your fault Ty

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When the nectar Pom hits your damage source 👌

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Knew I shouldn’t have taken Zeus as my 4th

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Rerolled miniboss arty from mirage shot to mirage shot and lightning rod

lost hound
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I still hate theseus and the minotaur

twilit lodge
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Asterius is a homie don’t hate him

rich gulch
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He's a horror movie on wheels at EM3 with FO and HL

twilit lodge
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What’s HR

lost hound
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yo

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i

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borrowed sonething from charon

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this repurposed shop theme goes hard ngl

twilit lodge
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It so does and now you can buy it for the music stand

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I hate whoever it was that pointed out that flame wheels make cat noises

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Because now it’s all I can think about when i encounter them

prisma wind
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They're so cute though

lost hound
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and im down

twilit lodge
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Maybe you’ll think twice before stealing someone’s lunch money in the future

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And only steal it in Elysium

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Hah. After heroes dad said “I shall have to have a talk with this King Theseus”

lost hound
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im gonna have to learn to uh

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actually play the game and not hide behind a shield

twilit lodge
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To which Zag replied “Mind asking him to tone it down a bit?”

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I uh

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Did Zag just fart?

tropic arrow
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Does Blown Kiss still work if I replace my cast with another god’s?

latent moon
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probably not

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it's a possibility tho i guess but i wouldn't replace the cast lol

rich gulch
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Does splitting bolt trigger on chain lightning?

latent moon
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judging from description i think so

rich gulch
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Let's see.

twilit lodge
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Presumably no (about blown kiss)

rich gulch
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I don't think it does.

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(For splitting bolt. At least, I see no mini bolts coming down. That's a shame).

twilit lodge
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They don’t come down

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Splitting bolt bolts are little yellow spheres I think?

latent moon
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yeah

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they come out of you

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iirc

rich gulch
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Actually, I think you're right on second thought - I see a damage difference. Moreover, I think I'm thinking of the ones you see in lightning rod.

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Got them mixed up a tad.

spice hearth
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Splitting bolt bolts come out of the thing you’re hitting

twilit lodge
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Makes sense

rich gulch
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Was going to be a perfect run but got demolished in Styx of all things. Quite frustrating

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Since I'm doing the while swift strike Lucifer run, being a sitting duck doesn't help against multiple satyrs and serpent stones.

twilit lodge
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Swift strike Lucifer bouldy

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Swift flourish doesn’t make the railgun special land quicker I learned today

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Disappointing

latent moon
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swift strike luci bouldy

acoustic bolt
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omfg i just quit and re-entered a run before the next screen loaded because i took an exit forgetting there was a chaos portal

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and it spawned me in lava

latent moon
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rip

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it do be like that

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autosave moment

twilit lodge
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Was that where you were when you killed the last enemy?

rustic vale
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Because of how the scaling works /tick

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Not sure how much of a downgrade it would be

latent moon
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lmao really

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that's hilarious

rustic vale
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Less ticks = less scaling

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But I may be wrong

cyan crown
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What gods should i try getting while I'm on hesty

lean timber
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i think people run zeus attack hestia

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aphrodite would be my choice tho. 150 base damage + 100% attack power is good

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wightfyre is telling me that i am wrong

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i must have confused eris and hestia again

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zeus attack bad

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aphro

rustic vale
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like literally isn’t a horrible idea it gives you your aoe

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Get your additive from chaos

lean timber
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bruh are you kidding

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stop reacting to my message 😭 i got eris and hestia mixed up again

latent moon
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Lmfao

swift inlet
lean timber
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LOL

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i am going to purchase every single hades item and resell them at ridiculous prices

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evil arc

rustic vale
latent moon
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Can you resell them to me for $0

swift inlet
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^

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massive profit

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0 dollars IS a ridiculous price

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Mattyboi is now obligated to give you his soul for 3 pennies

quartz flume
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Every time there's an announcement
Me: nu game?
SG: Hades T-shirts folks!

lean timber
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SIXTY-TWO CENTS

swift inlet
rustic vale
lean timber
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it's a soingbobe reference

twilit lodge
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Ayo there’s a hades controller in the SGG shop

lean timber
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switch pro right?

twilit lodge
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It’s a power-a

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But yeah

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That style

lean timber
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oh ehhh

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power-a isn't 100% imo

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would much rather have a nintendo-official

silent chasm
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i hope theres gonna be a hypnos pin in the second batch of pins

rustic vale
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Zigreus

rich gulch
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Zugreus

cyan crown
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Hai

quiet lily
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Does Exclusive Access make Legendaries and Duos more likely to appear?

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Me when dark thirst keeps alternating between spear and rail

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:SCWangery:

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Nitro gone moment

swift inlet
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Is there even a build that would want that god combo

latent moon
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Pos Dio?

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Eris I guess
Tdash, Dio call, Zeus atk, arty/aphro special

swift inlet
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No dad call sad

latent moon
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Actually that gets rid of sigil

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Yeah idk then

swift inlet
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Yeah exactly

latent moon
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Certain smair builds I guess tho

swift inlet
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Tbf most zoom zoom speedrun aspects want it

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But like if you do high heat

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Dio call + ea is nice

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Except it's very unlikely

latent moon
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Yeah

rustic vale
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I’ve literally be chasing EA using dio builds and it’s been working fine

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just so I can darkness farm better

mint coral
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End up selling sometimes to not mess hunting blades odds but still

rustic vale
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Does rng manip via cast work if you are using stygian?

twilit lodge
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Yes

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It’s just 3x more painful

rustic vale
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it seems to be doing nothing

twilit lodge
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Sometimes it be like that

rustic vale
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I cast 0 times I lose super nova for flurry and hoarding

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I cast 1 times and I lose super nova for flurry and hoarding

lean timber
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there's a random chance that it does nothing, which is changed by rng manips troll_face

twilit lodge
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I went up to 9 casts on my last eris run trying to drop triple for cluster

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And it was nearly identical results for all of them

rustic vale
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oh cast twice lose super nova for flurry piercing

twilit lodge
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Keep going I’m sure you can get cursed slash world splitter like you want

rustic vale
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I want dedge so I can apply dio twice as fast

twilit lodge
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Nah nah you want cursed slash flurry slash

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So you can hold down attack and tank dad

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Dio attack so you gonna drunk tank him

rustic vale
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Lmao

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I just lost breaching slash for flurry cursed slash

twilit lodge
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You just

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Won the game

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Breaching slash useless vs dad!

rustic vale
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Max hp 100 now

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but I won’t accept this

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This is gonna take forever I haven’t been counting inputs need to start over again

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Oh I have 420 attempts

twilit lodge
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Better start a new file

twilit lodge
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Also I’m nearly convinced that some dashes count for manip

rustic vale
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Which ones

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Oh

twilit lodge
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Probably passion nasty

rustic vale
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Lost super nova for dedge and shadow slash

twilit lodge
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Blade

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Ayo

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That’s almost as good as flurry cursed you should take that

rustic vale
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fingers crossed to get low tolerance

twilit lodge
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Ahhh it’s back to rail again

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Literally dark thirst has been spear rail spear rail spear rail

signal aspen
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imagine following the dark thirst

twilit lodge
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I do it just to keep things from getting stale

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Also for that passive boss gemstone income

rustic vale
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I’m pretty much at the same level of skill and enjoyment with all aspects of all weapons and I’m darkness farming for resource director so

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I’m following dark thirst

twilit lodge
rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Play splitting bolt Zeus strike dad spear

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Or sea storm tempest strike dad spear that could be horriblefun

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Play MEris

rustic vale
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I’m playing dioris

twilit lodge
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Also acceptable

rustic vale
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Oh bruh

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Spreadfire hazard bomb and piercing fire are all options

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Oh no

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Athena getting forced into pool in tart shadefear

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This is fine I’ll just play wierd eris

lean timber
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athena rail is awesome

rustic vale
lean timber
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where do you think i got all my wrong opinions

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Piercing fire MEris

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Yes shadesmile

rustic vale
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No this is crack eris

latent moon
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Yoooo free bronze skin

twilit lodge
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Grinded for chaos theme and I’m already tired of it kinda

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I do like the sidebar colors

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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How do you special only rama

latent moon
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it's literally delta chamber rail

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except you dont get iframes

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and you dont get a bomb

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well

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you get a budget bomb

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slap thunder flourish on it

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or drunken flourish

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find relentless i suppose

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swift flourish so you can get more arrows into that internal timer

twilit lodge
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Common flourish even after reroll

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So perhaps not this run lol

latent moon
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just get exclusive access c0

twilit lodge
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Smh no crush shot until 2nd reroll

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So there goes hera

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Cursed bow seed

latent moon
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just take the common boons lol

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or just

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die to reset the seed

rustic vale
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ME special only rama

latent moon
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True

rustic vale
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I’m doing lightning strike hesty it’s literally goated

twilit lodge
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True

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That would help with aoe clear!!

rustic vale
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Yup

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Arctic blast glacial flourish better

twilit lodge
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I have c3 door Poseidon option for Rama

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I should get tempest flourish

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Mistral dash Rama is gaming right

latent moon
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Yeah

twilit lodge
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Lmao

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I anviled from twin point blank

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Into twin perfect explosive

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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And then went fishing so guess I’m locked into this

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My arrow charges so slow

rustic vale
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That’s explosive shot for you bouldy

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Explosive shot should be base damage

twilit lodge
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830 damage non crit lmfao

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But I’m getting knocked out of charging by these archers shadegrief

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Almost died

lean timber
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explosive shot should absolutely not be base damage

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it would make itself meta and then i would have to deal with hera being budget rama

latent moon
twilit lodge
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I know but I was feeling froggy

latent moon
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Okay buddy

twilit lodge
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And then before I thought about it I hit the fishing point

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And realized I was locked in

lean timber
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froggy lol

rustic vale
rustic vale
lean timber
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explosive rama is hell

rustic vale
lean timber
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literally becomes completely unenjoyable

rustic vale
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That’s just because you haven’t experienced +300% base damage explosive shot rama

swift inlet
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Legacy is a scam

rustic vale
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True

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Actually I also have a new very very good legacy = scam photo as well

swift inlet
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First 40 attempt in awhile

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c34 patty blessed

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Unread sparkle at the bottom right

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Gaming

rustic vale
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imagine having unread sparkles

twilit lodge
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Couldn’t be me

swift inlet
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Taking a break from dad fight to fish 😩

rustic vale
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To fish?

swift inlet
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Didn't even burn sd lmao

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Patty goes hard

rustic vale
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Xiao when dad fight pauses for fishing

swift inlet
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Pommed athena call 💪

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Who needs ddash/extra sds

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Tdash carry

swift inlet
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I popped sd like 4 times during that run lmao

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I had like 2 fights where I was under 50 health because I forgot to kill myself for sd healing

twilit lodge
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My 32 run I popped sd like twice on purpose and once vs dad

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And then stubborn roots healed me to full

swift inlet
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🧠

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I mostly don't play heat because I dislike sd lmao

lean timber
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sd is almost an upgrade

swift inlet
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Pain

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Rama btw

rustic vale
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I’ve had purple rd in like

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7 of my last few runs

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before hitting EA for chaos eclipses

swift inlet
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I am going to dropkick you

latent moon
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Or 45

swift inlet
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50 is hell

latent moon
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45 isn't that bad tho

rustic vale
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Nana’s “45 isn’t bad”
Also nana’s “shackle beo at 40 heat shadegrief “

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The duality of bananas

latent moon
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Actually shackle at 40 heat was easy

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The problem was boonless

rustic vale
latent moon
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I'll break your toes

rustic vale
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that’s a matty thing to say

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Are nana’s and matty the same person 😳

lean timber
latent moon
lean timber
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i don't make empty threats i carry out on all my promises

latent moon
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Mine are all empty

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Except for the time I filled someone's shoes with spaghetti sauce

lean timber
rustic vale
swift inlet
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tisiphone with alecto backup is quite possibly the worst fury combo

lean timber
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yeah it is

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it sucks so much ball

left spire
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does egg make chaos gates appear more frequently?

prisma wind
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Sadly no

left spire
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unfortunate

swift inlet
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Sobbing

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I had an athena/dem/poseidon pool in tart

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Game crashed because I forgot two pots of gold and reloaded lmao

rustic vale
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That’s a wonderful pool

left spire
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worth

rustic vale
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Just hit artemis and win it all

swift inlet
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It really was

rustic vale
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Deadly reversal mirage blizzard shot = win

swift inlet
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It had a c3 hammer too

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Cshot my beloved

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Well I've got the pool again

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No athena but I have art this time

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Do I just go for mirage or force athena into the pool

latent moon
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Mirage

swift inlet
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I have legacy on

rustic vale
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force athena in for deadly reversal and unshakeable mettle and stubborn roots?

latent moon
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Beo doesn't need more DDs

swift inlet
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lmao

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Fair point

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I managed to get through with a l4 epic cast

swift inlet
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dash

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then I remembered I have splash dash

latent moon
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You don't need ddash either

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You have a dinner plate

swift inlet
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urite

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holy hell

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eury into fountain hermes 😳

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Pain

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Rerolled into hyper sprint but it was crossed out

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ap hell

twilit lodge
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Ap hell is punishment for prior good luck

swift inlet
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lmao

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Does buying key trigger the +1 reroll

twilit lodge
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Nope

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You wish

swift inlet
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i do

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i rly do

latent moon
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buying gemstones from the shop to get +20 gold back 📈

swift inlet
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🧠

twilit lodge
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Stonks

swift inlet
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I have haste + sprint + ichor

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At least I can zoom

twilit lodge
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Mans like a cat at 2am

latent moon
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lmfao

swift inlet
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Ok so

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This is embarrassing

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I may or may not have forgotten to trigger sd

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At 10 health

latent moon
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you'll be fine

#

it's beo

swift inlet
#

No no

#

I uh

latent moon
#

unless you're going into lernie

swift inlet
#

May or may not have died

latent moon
#

oh lmao

swift inlet
#

Because fo2 speeder shieldguy

latent moon
#

i personally would've just not died

swift inlet
#

Should've tried that tbh

#

This pool is pain

#

dio ares with mirage shot duo

latent moon
#

mirage is all you need lmao

swift inlet
#

Yes but ares = pom hell

latent moon
#

true

#

UC fodder tho

swift inlet
#

I hate it here

rustic vale
#

“Ap1 is free”

lean timber
#

it is

#

purely skill issue

#

you subconsciously wanted rush delivery blocked so u could clout post off it

latent moon
#

it's not too bad

#

it's when you start speedrunning with it when it becomes terrible

brisk trail
#

what does igneus eden mean

latent moon
#

that's luci special iirc

#

basically a bomb that pulses out a bit of damage, bomb blows up whenever it takes damage from anything

brisk trail
#

yes but what does the name mean

latent moon
#

idk google it

twilit lodge
#

“fiery paradise”

#

Source: I googled it

swift inlet
#

no mirage in ely

swift inlet
rustic vale
#

that’s how I connect the dots

latent moon
#

funny enough, the first time i cleared 40 i got a tart mirage my second try lmao

swift inlet
#

💀

latent moon
#

if you dont want to high roll for mirage, just do ps passion

#

ps passion works pretty well imo

#

snurst, frost strike, or mistral dash all work for procing PS

#

snurst obv the best, get aphro or any other status condition on the atk, and then all the casts will get the 40% boost

swift inlet
#

40????

#

Oh right it's ps

latent moon
#

lmao

swift inlet
#

It's fine I have pat + acorn

latent moon
#

should be fine lol

swift inlet
#

It IS em3 so

#

Ok I got it it's fine

sly ridge
#

balls

twilit lodge
#

SMH splitting bolt as my fourth boon

#

And third Zeus boon

#

But I’m playing Poseidon and just want LP

sly ridge
#

i only got splitting bolt once on rama

#

my last like 3 runs i did i kept using rama

#

cuz i was tryna get sb again

latent moon
#

special only rama

swift inlet
#

Speaking of which

#

I just got epic swift flourish lmao

#

Uh

#

What do I even take here

#

Athena to try and get call for smair?

twilit lodge
#

I don’t suppose phalanx shot triggers splitting bolt if you have lightning phalanx

latent moon
swift inlet
#

It's fine I have special spam rama

twilit lodge
#

Lightning phalanx so hilarious against heroes

spice hearth
#

I can never get LP before elysium 😭

#

It’s always either right before heroes or already in styx

twilit lodge
#

Me when I fall for the trap of casting at dad at the start of the fight

#

And he teleports and the stones get stuck off the edge of the arena

latent moon
#

lmao

#

i would've just hit him

twilit lodge
#

But phalanx shot kinda stronk even on its own so I wasn’t doing too badly

#

Just slow

twilit lodge
#

Playing Hera and there’s a

#

Maimed shot

#

Why

#

Whyyyyyy

#

Purple too

latent moon
#

Take it

#

Don't be a coward

twilit lodge
#

I didn’t take it

#

I was a coward

#

Didn’t need it tho

latent moon
#

smh

twilit lodge
#

Smh my head my head

lean timber
#

maimed is pretty rough but it's manageable, addled on the other hand has to be an epic level shot bonus before i even consider it

#

unless i'm desperate

latent moon
#

i'd take maimed on beo if it's tart

#

maimed hits twice during dragon rush lmao

#

i guess that would mean i'd also take addled lol

twilit lodge
#

It was a 4 chamber penalty in the middle of asphodel so

#

I said nah

latent moon
#

should've taken it for the funny

#

it'll last you all the way to lernie lol

twilit lodge
#

I’m fired from clown school

latent moon
#

never come back

twilit lodge
#

Stick drifted and I took the wrong boon 😱

#

Fortunately c1

lean timber
#

so that tracks

twilit lodge
#

Attack, addled is on cast

lean timber
#

did you win

twilit lodge
#

Leaving tart with 222 max Hp and tidal flare lv5

#

The hell is this

lean timber
#

it's gaming

twilit lodge
#

I’m so bad at power couple bro

#

Beo

#

The skullcrusher

#

Apparently some people call Patroclus “Sexy Eeyore” and I get it

latent moon
#

that's fair

latent moon
twilit lodge
#

Lmbo killing exalteds with 4x snurst is a mood

#

Dusa got promoted heck yeh

native blade
twilit lodge
native blade
#

Bruh.

#

Fine, Zeus can suck it.

#

Charon is seriously no joke.

#

Just… wow.

swift inlet
#

He is joke

#

Simply blow him up

native blade
native blade
#

Peeps, I can't choose pls help.

#

Note: I have 3 dashes, I have a trap problem and I scale on backstab.

raw herald
#

Divine dash

native blade
#

Athena's been killing it this run.

native blade
cyan crown
#

Damn

rich gulch
#

Is the crystal beam compatible with the artic blast?

high island
#

Frost Strike, Frost Flourish, Mistral Dash, Demeter's Aid, Snow Burst. Any one of those.

rich gulch
#

Thank you

primal sage
#

What is the best boon in the game, like where most people agree on that it is the best...?
Cause for me it would probably be the dash from poseidon

rustic vale
#

Bronze skin

native blade
#

I think Divine Dash is generally agreed to be pretty good.

rustic vale
#

There isn’t a definitive best boon since it’s uber subjective

#

I think

prisma wind
#

If you took a poll of all players, I'd bet that divine dash would come out at or near the top

rustic vale
#

Although splash and divine dash fits in pretty much everywhere

primal sage
#

Ah ok interesting didnt think of this one as the best tbh but I can see why it is consideres "the best"

prisma wind
#

As was said though, best is subjective. Ultimately the best boon is the one you personally look for or enjoy the most

rustic vale
#

Although obviously bronze skin is the best boon

#

🧠

native blade
slim geyser
#

idk man as

raw herald
#

someone with

prisma wind
#

The constant reference to this copypasta has really gotten old

native blade
icy knoll
slim geyser
#

sorry it was just the perfect opportunity

#

Also@i agree with splash dash

rustic vale
# native blade **Show me the copypasta.**

Idk man as someone with around 10 40 Heat runs under my belt I will literally always take Divine Dash over pretty much everything. Unless the build really requires a specific dash to create a broken interaction, Divine Dash is good with every build, every weapon, and is simply incredible. I agree with the top post of this comment chain that 8.5 is a little weird for easily the best Dash in the game.

icy knoll
#

yes but divine dash is outclassed a lot of the time

#

or you might have a build that doesn't want athena

#

i don't think greatest reflex is ever outclassed

#

at most it's tied by hyper delivery

#

wait that's the copypasta, oops

#

lmao

#

well 8.5 is a little weird for the best dash in the game tbf

slim geyser
#

Yeah lmao

latent moon
#

You know without context this seems extremely questionable lmao

#

"woah that's a bit harsh oh nvm reset SD fair enough"

rain relic
#

i assume you didn't have Guan Yu?

latent moon
#

What does guan Yu have to do with this

rain relic
#

Guan Yu has lifesteal, ergo, if you're in Aspho with a SD left, you'd still be fine if you had Guan Yu

latent moon
#

Or

#

Die to reset SD

#

If you have 1 hp left

#

And have an SD charge

rain relic
#

what is a SD anyway?

latent moon
#

Stubborn defiance

rain relic
#

oh

#

that makes sense

latent moon
#

When you die you get 30% of your hp back per room

devout terrace
#

okay

swift inlet
#

Average 64 heat player

cyan crown
#

Dad gave me sigil

#

Noice af

acoustic bolt
#

I must be at like 30 attempts at sword 40 lol

rain relic
#

question, how many redditors do you think i would i annoy if i said Quick Spin Guan Yu is objectively better then Charged Skewer Guan Yu?

acoustic bolt
#

Sword is the actual worst

swift inlet
swift inlet
rain relic
#

even if it is objectively worse then Skewer

acoustic bolt
#

i didn't have nearly this much trouble doing fist 40

rain relic
acoustic bolt
#

arthur is the worst sword for me. i hate how it feels.

rain relic
acoustic bolt
#

yeah i'm not debating whether or not it's effective. it -feels- uncomfortable for me to use. i can't get into it.

rain relic
#

fair enough

swift inlet
#

Artithur is only worth it if you also get hella chaos boosts

#

Otherwise you're just dealing way less consistent damage

swift inlet
acoustic bolt
#

can i get credit for 40 heat on sword with hestia? :p

rain relic
#

that is something i did not know

#

but i don't really like Hestia that much so i wouldn't have known to begin with

acoustic bolt
#

ugh

rain relic
#

i assume you found that right at the very end of the run?

acoustic bolt
#

while sweet nectar is fine sea storm would have made the run

rain relic
#

Sea Storm's nutty

acoustic bolt
#

plus i have greater reflex

#

so i could have just been invincible most of the time

rain relic
swift inlet
high island
#

The only builds that "need" Sea Storm already made the mistake of starting Tempest Strike. dusa

rain relic
high island
#

Sea Storm is not a target boon in rail builds.

#

Unless you're doing a meme "super soaker" build.

rustic vale
rustic vale
rustic vale
#

The enemies were flying out of my range way too fast

#

And I was not damaging them fast enough

latent moon
#

wow who knew

swift inlet
#

It's literally unfair how bad sword and fists are

rain relic
swift inlet
#

Once you push heat, they're bad

#

Sure, at 60 and higher there's only really 2 or so options

#

But from 40-60 they're just so much worse

#

You need better luck and more skill to survive with them than anything else

worldly sierra
#

Was there a patch somewhere along the line where they increased the chance of rolling a legendary boon whenever you attempt a Trial of the God's chamber?

It's crazy how often I get a legendary in those rooms.

Maybe it's just subjective bias?

latent moon
#

Subjective bias

#

This game hasn't been updated for a while lol

high island
#

You can't get Duo Boons in Trials, so legendaries will appear a bit more often.

high island
latent moon
#

Oh lol fair enough then

high island
#

Also, Dark Foresight didn't work back then. So if you're using that now... you're getting a lot more boons and hence more opportunities to get legendaries.

acoustic bolt
#

I might try this mod. Looks like it does a lot to make sword more reasonable

swift inlet
#

What are those nem/poseidon changes

#

Who uses the normal sword combo

twilit lodge
#

I don’t always get fishing spots in chaos

#

But when I do

swift inlet
#

Sword still looks pretty bad ngl

twilit lodge
#

I notice it after I take the boon and an exit

swift inlet
#

Like sure the actively harmful and entirely useless hammers now have some benefit

#

But they still pale in comparison to much safer and higher damage aspects

acoustic bolt
#

Yeah but it's something lol

swift inlet
#

Last stand charges being lost first probably screws heat players to a degree

acoustic bolt
#

I'm hoping it doesn't effect SD

#

Only the other one I can't remember the name of

swift inlet
#

It sounds like it does

#

Lmao

#

Homie played so much heat they forgot death defiance 💀

acoustic bolt
#

Bruh I don't remember the names of half the mirror lol

swift inlet
#

I can recognize what they are by name but can't name them all off the top of my head

#

Guan yu from 45 to 60 is kinda fat though damn

#

From 135 to 180 cskewer base damage is really nice

latent moon
swift inlet
#

33% flat damage increase is really nice

latent moon
#

Parting shot is global backstab damage this is based

twilit lodge
#

B*rge splitting bolt

#

Now where my smair at

acoustic bolt
twilit lodge
#

Fo2 Hestia is scary

acoustic bolt
#

Makes it a lot better

#

Cold embrace is +60% damage is solid

#

I love all the Demeter changes

#

Mistral dash hits three times

twilit lodge
#

Does this balance mod fix beo bugs

latent moon
#

Never

acoustic bolt
#

I don't think any of these modders are interested in fixing beo

swift inlet
#

Thoughts on legendary boons?

#

Chaos defiance can be really nice for a newer player but eh

latent moon
#

It's one of the lists of all time

swift inlet
#

Huge catch S+++ tier

#

750124 fish instead of 2 fish

high island
#

Bad News isn't specific, it's global damage.

swift inlet
#

ayy yo?

#

Bugs for days

twilit lodge
#

I like how that tier list only has two tiers

#

And then single named legends roses

#

Legendaries

swift inlet
#

Huge catch is as useless as black out but it's funny

#

Arguably more useful because you get meta benefits from catching more fish lmao

latent moon
#

Isn't black out actually good tho

twilit lodge
#

Blackout not useless pog

#

But not many trippy builds also take hangover

#

Dio is not a god you dive deep into cuz hangover mechanics

swift inlet
#

Only time I can see it not hindering you to play into is if you're doing dio eris and get both trippy + strike

latent moon
#

talos

twilit lodge
#

Trippy with dio call

latent moon
#

Yeah that's fair tho

swift inlet
#

Fair ig

#

But you'd likely want dad call anyway because you're using trippy beo

latent moon
#

Drunk strike trippy beo

swift inlet
#

Honestly black out would be cracked af if it didn't require hangover

#

If it was like vicious cycle and just stacked on trippy it'd be way better

#

That probably does 0 things because trippy will blow them up anyway lmao

twilit lodge
#

Clockets Hestia is so jank

#

Like

swift inlet
#

Why

twilit lodge
#

I never feel like I’m doing what I should be

swift inlet
#

It plays like regular hestia but you have clockets

#

You do the exact same thing

twilit lodge
#

Ig im just bad at the flow in my head

swift inlet
#

Your rockets just now do 7 million damage

twilit lodge
#

I keep trying to shoot when im reloading

#

And rocket when it’s on cooldown

swift inlet
#

Iirc the general thing is like

#

a ratio of 2 dashes to each shot, 2 shots to each rocket

#

To help with timing

#

And you can reload while dashing

twilit lodge
#

Smh unhealthy fixation

#

But i can’t get smair or heart rend to save my life

#

Reroll into smair and heart tend

#

Complaining always works

#

I have splitting bolt so I imagine I want smair more

#

And then unhealthy again from cheap shop aphro lmao

swift inlet
#

so true!!!!

#

i complained about my blessed rng 40 beo run crashing

#

then I squeezed through with crappy rng on the next run lmao

twilit lodge
#

Strong drink lc4 is a mood

swift inlet
#

So pissed

#

I got forced into dio call which ruined my mirage odds

#

And then styx didn't even have poseidon OR artemis OR hermes

#

it was dio/ares/poms/anvil

twilit lodge
#

All the times ares doesn’t show up for me when I’m trying to get HB

#

Are the times he does show up for me on literally anything else

#

He’s a little poopyhead

swift inlet
#

Ares would probably be better if he'd just focus on one thing

#

It's really annoying when a god splits like that

twilit lodge
#

Haha nah here have battle rage on a castspect

#

And also blade dash

swift inlet
#

feelsbad

latent moon
#

blade dash is based

#

what would his build be if he only focused on one thing tho

#

your dash now inflicts doom onto enemies

twilit lodge
#

Doom into impending doom into dire

#

And ME as soon as prereqs

#

But no

swift inlet
#

Y'know what'd be funny

#

No ME

twilit lodge
#

Where’s the punchline

swift inlet
#

Ares just has a boon that detonates dooms if blade rifts hit

twilit lodge
#

That wouldn’t be terrible

swift inlet
#

Downside: no ddash
Upside: no need for 3 prereq boons, instead just two

#

One of the biggest reasons ME is a pain to build is bc ddash doesn't count as a prereq

twilit lodge
#

It’s like ME but instead of ddash all you need is mirage shot hunting blades and doom attack!

swift inlet
#

You don't need hb

twilit lodge
#

So you can take ares atk arty special tdash

swift inlet
#

You can just rift dash

#

yeah but you'd also need ares cast there too

#

so

twilit lodge
#

Just dstrike spam into your blades

native blade
#

My dumb ass forgot I had Stubborn Defiance.

swift inlet
#

that's a very specific 4 core layout

#

not good

twilit lodge
#

Time for a trippy beo because flood beo makes me sad

swift inlet
#

bc it isn't reliable

native blade
swift inlet
#

well it's nice if you get it but it's even more demanding than regular achilles hb

twilit lodge
#

Smh just get the boons gamer

#

Purple trippy into Erebus Pom into nectar room

#

Stacked

latent moon
worldly sierra
high island
#

If it works, it works.

#

I take it the gameplan was apply Hangover and run lol.

worldly sierra
#

Rip current saved me for the Hades adds

#

The MVP skill for that run

twilit lodge
#

Drunk Nem goated

high island
#

I don't know about goated, but at least it's easy enough to get running. Just gotta get the poms.

worldly sierra
#

I ran mom pom for 1st two biomes

#

Got the drunk strike upped quick

high island
#

Nice.

worldly sierra
twilit lodge
#

I found a spreadsheet with Pom and rarity scaling for all boons on Reddit

#

Post is 1y old tho and didn’t mention patch number so idk if it’s current

worldly sierra
#

Also... Exclusive access and stubborn roots was kinda perfect for that build

twilit lodge
#

It said support fire isn’t pommable which it is so

worldly sierra
#

Had to sell 2nd wave though. Got it in Tartarus, and it was the only one I was willing to let go

swift inlet
#

I love when my support fire does 400 total damage per room instead of 300

worldly sierra
#

Support fire used to be insane before they nerfed it with the Zeus nerf

swift inlet
#

Sad

#

Support fire is so fun

worldly sierra
#

Fists + epic swift strike was hilarious

#

Also.. Rama plus lightning flourish pre nerf... Basically was a win button

twilit lodge
#

Unaruably

worldly sierra
#

Still is, really

latent moon
#

it's active in the modding server if you want to try it out

high island
twilit lodge
#

Is there an updated spreadsheet that you know of? I’d rather not message a bot a million times if I can just reference the source

lean timber
#

do you have a source for your claim

twilit lodge
#

I have pasta sauce

latent moon
#

you can message him in the modding server probably

quiet lily
#

I recently got a level 23 passion flare with Beowulf

#

I forget if I was able to get Mirage Shot that run or not

raw herald
#

free

lean timber
#

timer should stop during phase changes

#

imo

#

if that happened a 6 second dad would be free

native blade
#

Y’all are busted.

#

6 second Dad isn’t even a dream to me rn.

raw herald
#

its literally impossible

#

he phases for too long

#

lowest is around 21-22s if you instantly deplete each phase

signal aspen
#

i can do it

swift inlet
#

Do you not have room count 💀

#

💀

#

Always open codex unmodded

#

Or just play modded

#

You still want a good bit of rng in modded whether it's for heat or speedruns but at least the very core stuff is more consistent so you don't get gigascrewed by dumb stuff as often

twilit lodge
#

When the premium vintage nectar pom doesn’t go to my lv8 trippy flare

rustic vale
#

Oh baby it’s darkness farming with luci time

#

super soaker shadesmile

#

Or maybe I’ll do not heavy rng dependent luci who knows

twilit lodge
#

Would bad news trippy flare mean literally just 50% global

rustic vale
#

Leaving tart with only pos in pool 💀

rustic vale
#

Actually bad news is also just +50% global on beo cuz it never lodges I think

#

but that’s basically just common rd

twilit lodge
#

Without having to time damage to dashes tho

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

I love leaving tart with +157% darkness

twilit lodge
#

Lmao one 2stone rush phased Theseus

rustic vale
#

That’s trippy flare for you

twilit lodge
#

Don’t even have mirage cuz I didn’t take arty

#

Ugh this run has offered me approximately 1 million pos boons

rustic vale
#

Hmmm

twilit lodge
#

Should have taken mistral dash

rustic vale
#

I forget if I take a boon that isn’t dio will he not be forced again

twilit lodge
#

So I could have mirage shot SF and ice wine

#

If he’s your keepsake?

rustic vale
#

yeah