h1-discussion

[twilit lodge]

Because it never happened

[rustic vale]

Umm… um… rare rd?

[twilit lodge]

Me when I never even see rd

[old belfry]

yeah but not like you want

[rustic vale]

I love the mirror aspect that lets you find heroic boons

[old belfry]

they stack in terms of your next 2 boons are boosted

not double boosted 1 boon

[rustic vale]

They don’t mean even more increased rarity

[twilit lodge]

Imagine if yarn literally boosted the next boon you saw

[sly ridge]

i can only use a companion once per chamber right

[twilit lodge]

Like the top one of three

[old belfry]

yes

[rustic vale]

Yes

[twilit lodge]

And then eury nectar would boost one single boon choice lmao

[rustic vale]

The same way yarn + yarn works

[sly ridge]

just so i know

who all aside from dusa and skelly has a companion

[rustic vale]

meg

Than

Sisyphus

achilles

[old belfry]

meg than achilles susypus

[twilit lodge]

Everyone you can romance and everyone who is cool

[sly ridge]

you can romance sisyphus???

[twilit lodge]

(And bouldy)

[rustic vale]

🤨 cerberus is cool though

[rustic vale]

“And everyone who is cool”… except it isn’t everyone who is cool

everyone who is cool would mean every npc would have a companion

[twilit lodge]

Kinda weird they included Skelly

[sly ridge]

i only have dusa's comapnion rn

[twilit lodge]

Instead of it being 3 romance + 3 story chamber npcs

[rustic vale]

Arte should have a companion

[twilit lodge]

Eurydice companion when

[rustic vale]

hades companion when?

Housing contractor companion when?

Resource director companion?

[twilit lodge]

Wretched broker keepsake when

[rustic vale]

You don’t have that yet?

Smh

Mom companion when

[sly ridge]

oh god

so

[old belfry]

pom is the only companion i need tbh fam

[sly ridge]

i can do trial of the gods

which has aphro and dio

or a second hammer

[old belfry]

hammer

always tho

[sly ridge]

whatever you say

[old belfry]

always hammer

[lean timber]

not always really

[sly ridge]

i forgot i also have no cast

i have no dash boon, cast, or attack boon

[lean timber]

i can think of at least two instances where you would want to skip it but those are speedrun reasons to be fair

[old belfry]

are you going for shackle run

[lean timber]

what are you running anyway

[sly ridge]

no

[old belfry]

ok always in a general sense

[sly ridge]

im not

[sly ridge]

rama

[old belfry]

i concede that there are times when a hammer doesnt matter

[sly ridge]

only core boon i have is epic thunder flourish

and i have the hammer upgrade that makes special shoot more arrows

[lean timber]

that's literally fine you just started your run

relentless is good

it's not anything better than mildly useful

[sly ridge]

pointblank shot
triple shot
chain shot

🗿

[lean timber]

point blank is great

triple is as well

your choice

[sly ridge]

i have poor experience with triple

since the last time i use coro

[lean timber]

that's why i always recommend point blank over triple

[old belfry]

i like point blank a lot

it fits many builds

[sly ridge]

i guess ill do point blank

end shop

another zeus

splitting bolt

???

[rustic vale]

Other options?

Probably splitting bolt though

[old belfry]

splitting bolt is gaming but other options

[rustic vale]

If you already have jolted it’s 99% splitting bolt but just asking for curiousity

[sly ridge]

the others are lightning strike and billowing strenght

strength*

[old belfry]

splitting

[sly ridge]

aight

going into theseus em3 with 170 health and 1 dd

OH NAHHH

THIS DUDE GOT A WHOLE CHARIOT

[old belfry]

oh no

he didnt know

[sly ridge]

WHY DOES HE HAVE GUNS

[old belfry]

youll be ok

just play like normal

[sly ridge]

this is going so awfully

[lean timber]

ur fine

[old belfry]

u got it

em3 is light weight

[sly ridge]

last chance

[lean timber]

literally

LIGHT WEIGHT BABY YEAAAAAHHH

[sly ridge]

bruh

why did a single shockwave from asterius

hit me twice

i died from that

[old belfry]

u dodged into it

[sly ridge]

i almost killed asterius too

jesus christ what in the world kind of fight was that

[old belfry]

it seems crazy

but really you just use the same strategy, just going crazier

[sly ridge]

i just unlocked the last two mirror upgrades

[rustic vale]

Lets go

[old belfry]

you have to really go aggro on em3

but luckily you will have the boons to do so by end of ely

[rustic vale]

Primal how was the non-god mode experience

[old belfry]

ez right

[lean timber]

prime these nuts lol

[rustic vale]

They literally didn’t Get the Boons™️

[lean timber]

gosh i'm so funny

[old belfry]

happens to the best

[sly ridge]

no

[lean timber]

lol

[old belfry]

it ez u'll be fine

i believe in youy

[sly ridge]

rama did pretty well for me at least

did better than my god mode lucifer run

💀

[rustic vale]

I believe in you too you just have to get adjusted to taking 5 times more damage then you did with god mode on

[old belfry]

what pact?

[lean timber]

rama is the most pick up and play weapon in the game

[sly ridge]

10 heat, just e4

[lean timber]

requires no skill

[old belfry]

how do you feel about shield

[sly ridge]

i really dont use shield much anymore

[old belfry]

try em4 shield please

[sly ridge]

what aspect

[rustic vale]

Matty my ~~ pos flare beowulf~~ tidal shot hera run died

[old belfry]

you can pick it

thats the best part

they are all good

but zag

[sly ridge]

hm

[old belfry]

zag is best

[rustic vale]

Chaos*

[lean timber]

ping me again i darevyou

please do it

[rustic vale]

All are good but chaos

[old belfry]

i could have worded differently

yes i agree

[rustic vale]

chaos is aspectless

[old belfry]

even tho i am a chaos enjoyer

[sly ridge]

ill do zeus

[old belfry]

zeus is great

[lean timber]

zoos

[rustic vale]

Why should I matty

[lean timber]

so i can block u

[rustic vale]

Noooooooooooes

[sly ridge]

i got the rose this time for tart

[old belfry]

.

[sly ridge]

i forgot

[rustic vale]

🧠

[swift inlet]

Maybe chaos would be workable if it had the zeus effect of keeping the attack

[sly ridge]

im not using rama

[rustic vale]

What are you using?

[sly ridge]

at least i got heartbreak strike this time

[rustic vale]

Shield loves aphrodite attack

[sly ridge]

zeus

ima try to get thunder flourish

[rustic vale]

They forgot to switch keepsakes

but it’s fine anyways all shields can work with aphrodite

Or you could reset

[sly ridge]

nah ima go with this

[lean timber]

chaos and zeus shield don't care about aphro really

trust me i am a shield expert...

[swift inlet]

Smair

[sly ridge]

aight so i got an athena boon

[lean timber]

so

[sly ridge]

holy shield
bronze skin
or divine flourish (rare)

[lean timber]

that's literally universal

[old belfry]

all 3 good

[swift inlet]

Zeus shield probably wants aphro over any other attack

[lean timber]

flourish is good

[rustic vale]

🤨

[lean timber]

now you're running MEucifier

[rustic vale]

Lies and slander mr.discount zag bow stan

[lean timber]

take divine flourish

[sly ridge]

aight

[rustic vale]

Wait no

[old belfry]

i am a bronze shield enjoyer but early on it's probably not a good pick

[rustic vale]

Did I @ matty by accident :shadedisgr:shadegrief:

[lean timber]

i'm

literally

[sly ridge]

finally

[lean timber]

going to assault yo7

[sly ridge]

im able to stun enemies

[lean timber]

this is a credible threat

[sly ridge]

i love doing knockback to enemies!

[rustic vale]

Matty your credit score is in the negatives you can’t say tha

[lean timber]

my credit score is just fine thanks

[swift inlet]

How will matty assault you if you have a better time

[sly ridge]

i forgot i got all those work orders except the erebus one

[rustic vale]

Matty is uncredible

[sly ridge]

what does erebus do tho

[rustic vale]

so are his threats

[swift inlet]

He has to chase you through every biome

[lean timber]

it instantly kills you it's like a trap

[sly ridge]

so is it like another pact

[rustic vale]

If you have atleast 5/10/15 heat you can hop into them
If you clear it without getting hit you’ll get the reward

[lean timber]

it's exactly like that.

[rustic vale]

Otherwise no reward

[sly ridge]

whats the reward

[lean timber]

IT'S ON THE GATE

[swift inlet]

Miniboss reward

[sly ridge]

oh

[swift inlet]

It just buffs it the way minibosses do

[sly ridge]

so i have to no hit a miniboss basically

[swift inlet]

No

[old belfry]

tbh if you get hit you get a reward

[swift inlet]

It's random enemies

[old belfry]

it's just ... 1hp

[rustic vale]

It’s not a miniboss

[sly ridge]

oh

[swift inlet]

It just gives the same rewards as a miniboss

[lean timber]

more or less. a lot of them are easier than minibosses except in elysium

[old belfry]

its just a room

[rustic vale]

but the reward is that of a miniboss room

[lean timber]

poms give 2 levels btw

[old belfry]

its always a heroic/miniboss room

reward

[rustic vale]

And hearts give 50 max hp

[lean timber]

a heroic room mmm yes

[old belfry]

but its just a regular room difficulty wise

[swift inlet]

Heroic room based

[lean timber]

not always you would be surprised at the combos

not for a casual

[old belfry]

who here is casual

[swift inlet]

Imagine if rare crop applied to next boons the way eury/yarn does

[lean timber]

the one asking questions

[swift inlet]

Would be funny but bad

[sly ridge]

🗿

[rustic vale]

Matty I’m going to play discount zag bow/discount beo using mirage shot pos cast what do you think

[swift inlet]

Heroic rd tho

[old belfry]

yes

[lean timber]

i'm going to actually block you if you keep calling hera discount zag bow

it's not even close

[sly ridge]

id rather no hit a miniboss than flame wheels

[rustic vale]

[rustic vale]

That part is true at least

Zag bow and hera aren’t even close /j

slash j

[lean timber]

you can get flame wheels in tart erebus btw

lol

[rustic vale]

Slash jay

[lean timber]

it's funny

[old belfry]

idc about flamewheels but i still feel like the shop item that removes flamewheels is goated

is that wrong?

[sly ridge]

id say something about hera if i actually used it

[sly ridge]

no

screw flame wheels

[rustic vale]

Hera is good enough to not be called discount zag bow I just like annoying matty about it

[sly ridge]

just dont use bows

real

[rustic vale]

Chiron on the other hand is discount zag bow

[swift inlet]

Pause

Aim at cursor

[lean timber]

it's definitely a nice benefit but unfortunately the difficulty has to be fulfilled somehow so it could always just throw two elite strongbows in the room and call it a day

myself i would take the flamewheels

[sly ridge]

console players:

[rustic vale]

True shot gaming

[livid crescent]

24 to 0, suck it than

[lean timber]

HERA LITERALLY HAS EXTENDED REACH OVER ZAG BOW ARE YOU GUYS SPECIAL

[sly ridge]

im still confudled about that theseus fight

[rustic vale]

Matty revealing secret tips I don’t know about

[sly ridge]

even though theseus didnt do really any damage to me compared to asterius

that em4 run had to be one of my most unlucky runs ever

[rustic vale]

Matty bestow more hera wisdom upon me

[rustic vale]

Kinda true

[sly ridge]

even though i got lucky with the zeus boons

[rustic vale]

Electric shot 🤮

[sly ridge]

no

anyways

what boon should i get on cast and dash

if im doing zeus aspect

[rustic vale]

Rn you have aphrodite dash and

zeus special yet?

[sly ridge]

i have athena special and aphro attack

no dash or cast

[rustic vale]

True might as well just take passion cast if you see it to knock core that out of the way

[rustic vale]

Oh perhap the play would be artemis cast then

hope for deadly reversal

also still force zeus anyways just for zeus call tbh

[sly ridge]

i wanna know something tho

what is it that makes legendary boons show up

[rustic vale]

They have certain prerequisities

And so do duo boons

You can see those in your codex

[sly ridge]

oh

so it isnt just really rare to get

[swift inlet]

• a small chance

[old belfry]

its not really rare, but it's definitely not common

[sly ridge]

oh

[swift inlet]

Yeah you need to build to them unless you get lucky w hermes plume

[old belfry]

but usually the main factor is the prereqs

[rustic vale]

so something like fully loaded artemis legendary requires you to have 2 of pressure points, support fire or exit wounds to even find

[rustic vale]

This is as an example

[sly ridge]

so i basically need 2 of a certain group of boons for it to have a chance to show up

[rustic vale]

No

It varies

Yeah

Arte might’ve been a bad example

demeter legendary no?

[sly ridge]

ive gotten like

3 legendaries from all my runs

[old belfry]

they are all pretty specific

[sly ridge]

that fishing one from poseidon

the charm one from aphro

and splitting bolt

[rustic vale]

demeter legendary requires 2 of ravenous wind, killing freeze or arctic blast

[rustic vale]

Poseidon has another legendary

[swift inlet]

Is splitting the best one

[rustic vale]

Requires either breaking wave or typhoons fury

[raw herald]

💯

[rustic vale]

The best legendary?

[sly ridge]

doubt it

all it really did for me was 40 damage extra every time i used my special

[rustic vale]

Splitting bolt probably is the best legendary aspect pending

It still has an internal cooldown

Plus I’m 90% sure splitting bolt procs off of jolted and also procs jolted

Divine protection is nice

Not great but nice

It’s like 1 acorn use every 20 seconds

Talos perhaps

[swift inlet]

It would be better if td didn't exist

[sly ridge]

whats td

[rustic vale]

Tight deadline

[sly ridge]

oh that

[rustic vale]

or tidal dash true

[sly ridge]

not sure why tidal dash shouldnt exist

[rustic vale]

But real chads just say splash dash instead

[rustic vale]

Tidal dash shouldn’t shouldn’t exist

[swift inlet]

Heat strat fr

[rustic vale]

or if you will

Tidal dash shouldn’t^2 exist

[sly ridge]

next time i do an em4 run

im doing guan yu

just to make it even worse

[rustic vale]

Guan-yu is gaming just focus on using the special

[sly ridge]

im awful at paying attention to attacks

no

[rustic vale]

Lies

Guan-yu doesn’t suck

[sly ridge]

all it does is lower health

and slightly slower attack

[rustic vale]

Tbf you don’t standing strike with gy

You special

[sly ridge]

i prefer it over achilles anyways

or hades

[rustic vale]

And you spin if you don’t have fo2 on

[sly ridge]

whats fo2

[rustic vale]

forced overtime 2

[sly ridge]

what does fo2 do

[rustic vale]

When you’re new

[rustic vale]

40% more attack speed and movespeed for enemies

[old belfry]

it make game go fast

[sly ridge]

i just get the faster charge upgrade on hammer most of the time with it

[rustic vale]

You are literally just biased against it major skissue smh

[old belfry]

cursed slash is goated with the sauce

guan yu is cringe

[sly ridge]

and then the larger spin radius if im lucky

[old belfry]

(its because spear is cringe)

[sly ridge]

guan yu is funny extra challenge

[old belfry]

unless using explosive spear + charged spear

[sly ridge]

yeah youre not catching me with that kinda setup

[rustic vale]

Guan-yu already has built in explosive launcher

So you just get charged skewer

and you win

[old belfry]

yeah but -50% life

[sly ridge]

70% actually

[old belfry]

"dont get hit"

[rustic vale]

which is why guan-yu is better than hades

[sly ridge]

wait

[rustic vale]

-50% if you level it up

[sly ridge]

does upgrading guan you

oh

[rustic vale]

That’s like saying chiron actually only shoots 3 arrows

[old belfry]

lel

[sly ridge]

my fault

[old belfry]

it ok

[sly ridge]

didnt know about the concept of upgrading hidden aspects

[rustic vale]

It ok

[old belfry]

GY is not an aspect unless its lv 5

it doesnt exist

[rustic vale]

Iies

Lies

[sly ridge]

is it just me or are like ALL the hidden aspects bad in some way

[rustic vale]

Lvl1 guan-yu is real if you’re a gamer

[rustic vale]

It’s a trade off

They aren’t bad just different

[old belfry]

I completed 40heat every weapon before i became a beo believer

i am here to say, beo is king

[sly ridge]

i mean id take 50% less health as bad

or maim making the enemy you main do more damage to you

[old belfry]

gilgamesh is good if you can just "dont get hit"

[sly ridge]

id prefer zag shield over chaos

[old belfry]

more dashes

[rustic vale]

That is a copy pasta

It’s a meme

[sly ridge]

yeah i know that

but i still wanted to get that out there

ive even grown accustomed to using cornacht

but i just hate chaos aspect

[old belfry]

bow is good period

its good tho

base bow is good

[sly ridge]

i used to despise bow

probably cuz i just was using zag

( i am never touching chiron or hera)

[old belfry]

base bow is automatically good

just because its ranged

it only goes up from there

i see

you arent wrong

but its good tho

i agree with you

[sly ridge]

i cant wait to get back to theseus and hear him smack talk me for dying to him and asterius

(screw theseus)

[old belfry]

are you still doing em4

[sly ridge]

yes

well im taking a break from the game as of right now

[old belfry]

i believe in you

em4 becomes second nature

[sly ridge]

i was convinced as of last night to turn off god mode

but instead of just listening and going 0 heat

i just decided to go with em4

[old belfry]

we jump in with both feet

[sly ridge]

i still feel like extreme measures is one of the easiest pacts though

cuz all it affects is the bosses

and at this point, em1 and 2 dont really make it that much harder

im honestly nervous about heightened security tho

[old belfry]

thats why its recommended as the first one to push when working up

[sly ridge]

em or hs

[old belfry]

atleast em3, em4 is pretty hard

em

[sly ridge]

oh

[old belfry]

hs is tough

yeah

i dont ever HS

[sly ridge]

ive only done hs on godmode like once

and i still hated it

[old belfry]

i did hs for the uh

prophecy

and then never

it makes hades pots hit for too much

[sly ridge]

ive heard

it does like

30 right

[old belfry]

and asphodel is annoying with hs

man it does like 30 normally

skill issue for sure

[rustic vale]

Heightened security is usually put off till about 40 heat iirc

Since getting hit for 150 by hades pots is not gaming

hs

[old belfry]

its quite possibly the WORST +1 heat you can choose

[sly ridge]

i did guan yu once with hs

[old belfry]

idk

[sly ridge]

died in styx

[old belfry]

i take ri before hs

[rustic vale]

So taking normal damage from traps lmfao

[sly ridge]

stupid saw traps

[sly ridge]

yeah but that normal damage was like 10% of my health

[rustic vale]

[old belfry]

this is how my life is normally. I play hades this way, too.

[rustic vale]

It’s still affected by gy health reduction

[sly ridge]

is strong drink reduced in any way by gy

like does it just not full heal

[twilit lodge]

Imagine thinking “you have less max life” stops applying at the start of gy run

[old belfry]

its sad

you get used to it

[sly ridge]

it would be kinda nice if it traded it off

like 70% less health, 20 % less damage

or something like that idk

[rustic vale]

It’s based on your maximum hp

[old belfry]

boi if you dont level your gy to 5

[twilit lodge]

You get…. A heal tied to your slowest attack!

[sly ridge]

i dont find upgrading most of the hidden aspects all that useful

[rustic vale]

It full heals because it’s based on max hp

[twilit lodge]

Gy is one you need to max

[old belfry]

+20% max hp means 20% more heals

[sly ridge]

thats a good lot of titan blood just for it to still leave you with half of your max health

[rustic vale]

Tbf the only ones that really should get maxed are luci beowulf gy and debatably rama

arthur and gilga don’t really need levels

[old belfry]

man i wish i was good enough to reliably clear at -70% hp

[rustic vale]

Smh

[sly ridge]

do people even use arthur for the aura dmg reduce

[old belfry]

i cant

ima be honest

[old belfry]

yes

[twilit lodge]

People use Arthur for the chonk chonk

[rustic vale]

Yes

well lik

[sly ridge]

i honeslt just like arhur cuz of the trap disabling

[rustic vale]

They don’t use it for that

[old belfry]

but its nice

[rustic vale]

They use it for the big base damage

[sly ridge]

and the projectile slowing

[rustic vale]

And the dmg reduction/trap canceling is a bonus

[old belfry]

i use the sword for BOOM but the extra 40% dmg reduction is NICE

[sly ridge]

helps out in styx when i keep getting shot by cultists because i wasnt able to hear them making the noises of the black death

[rustic vale]

The damage reduction and trap disabling are like bonuses

[twilit lodge]

Arthur heightened security free

[sly ridge]

i will forever love using talos

[old belfry]

based

[sly ridge]

free extra damage

[rustic vale]

Talos is based but like demeter exists

[old belfry]

i now think talos is worst fist but i still love it

[rustic vale]

Same imo

[old belfry]

talos made me like fist

[twilit lodge]

Ping pong talos my beloved

[sly ridge]

i prefer talos over gilga

at least talos doesnt make enemies do more damage to me

[rustic vale]

Tbf I’ve been using talos a lot recently as a castpect and it’s funn

[rustic vale]

Gilga kill enemy before that matter slash s

Gilga so good because more dashes for splash dash

/j

[sly ridge]

yeah but can gilga do za hando

[rustic vale]

yeah but does za hando matter
yeah that’s what I thought

[sly ridge]

yes

[twilit lodge]

ME gilga extremely based

Just hold down attack and dash together

[rustic vale]

Talos is fun as a castpect tbh

[sly ridge]

i dont understand these terms

[rustic vale]

It semi consistently let me freezing vortex some enemies

Castpect= cast focused aspect

or

More like an aspect that benefits casts

so achilles poseidon talos beowulf hera and eris by technicality

[twilit lodge]

Hades benefits casts?

[sly ridge]

objectively, what hidden aspect is best

[rustic vale]

Wait. I was wrong

[twilit lodge]

Beowulf

[rustic vale]

I said hades by acicdent

Meant achilles

[rustic vale]

beowulf

[sly ridge]

why does everyone always say beo

im not seeing whats so good

[rustic vale]

Beowulf is perhaps objectively the best aspect in the game

[twilit lodge]

Because it’s objectively the strongest hidden

[rustic vale]

Yes

[twilit lodge]

Why do you ask if you don’t like the answer lmao

[rustic vale]

Sorry can’t explain better rn

I gaming and have to pay attention

[twilit lodge]

Casts scale extremely well

[sly ridge]

if i asked subjectively would the answer be any different

[twilit lodge]

Cast ammo aspects scale even better than cast using aspects

Subjectively I’d say Rama because it’s more flexible

[old belfry]

beo is BUSTED

[twilit lodge]

And pretty fun

[rustic vale]

Personally I think gilga is on level with beo for fun

[old belfry]

cast builds are automatically strong

cast builds on cast aspects are super strong

[sly ridge]

i have yet to see a single person unironically say they liked guan yu

[rustic vale]

I like guan-yu

[twilit lodge]

Nobody likes guan eww

[rustic vale]

It just isn’t my favourite

[sly ridge]

and i just never see lucifer being mentioned

[old belfry]

i levelled GY last

and lucifer was next to last, but also I like lucifer now

[rustic vale]

lucifer is kind of just aspect of triple bomb and super soaker

[sly ridge]

oh yeah that super soaker run i did went awful

[twilit lodge]

Lucifer is less “strong” and more “neat”

[old belfry]

+1

[sly ridge]

id rather just use zag aspect than lucifer

[old belfry]

its nice to have a new playstyle

when bored

[sly ridge]

all i found that to be useful for was wall slamming enemies

what even is sea storm

is it a duo

what does it do

[old belfry]

build maker

[sly ridge]

you act like it'd be obvious for this game

[latent moon]

Extremely large base atk damage, mirage shot big, large aoe, large cast damage, scales great with Hermes and benefits a lot from wells

[rustic vale]

You need it for super soaker

[latent moon]

And also shield

[rustic vale]

Knock back boons drop lightning

[sly ridge]

how would that possibly be something i could guess

thats on par with that one boon that repeatedly does doom damage to weak-afflicted enemies

[twilit lodge]

It’s much better in fact

[rustic vale]

It literally isn’t

It’s far far better

Magnitiudes better

[sly ridge]

im talking about how random it is

wouldnt it make more sense for it to be on rupture

instead of just knockback

[rustic vale]

Wdym

That isn’t a valid arguement

But also

[rustic vale]

Wdym by that

[twilit lodge]

Dem Zeus duo affects a t2

[sly ridge]

wouldnt it make more sense for the lightning to be done to rupture afflicted enemies

[rustic vale]

Lightning drop when rupture procs?

[twilit lodge]

Arty Athena also requires t2

I think

[sly ridge]

it just seems weird for it to be on knockback boons

the same weird for that one duo boon i mentioned

[rustic vale]

Curse of longing isn’t wierdb

Stubborn roots

[sly ridge]

doom being put onto weak affected enemies seems weird to me though

[rustic vale]

?

putting 2 status effects on same enemy != wierd

[sly ridge]

yeah but where does that mesh together in any way to make sense

[old belfry]

i concur

[sly ridge]

but why

why weak + doom

[twilit lodge]

Are we being cleverly trolled

[sly ridge]

🗿

[rustic vale]

What else would aphrodite + ares do

[twilit lodge]

Charmed enemies take 100% more damage from your blade rift effects

😎

[sly ridge]

what are the chances people would have the build to charm that effectively

[rustic vale]

Incompatible with hunting blades

[sly ridge]

wouldnt weak + hangover work tho

[twilit lodge]

That’s why sea storm (and curse of longing) only need t1s

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

And are strong and egg

[sly ridge]

like hangover making them do less damage

i feel like it'd make more sense than simply constantly putting doom on weak enemies

[rustic vale]

what

primal you lost me way way earlier

And you still don’t have me

[sly ridge]

what if there was a duo boon between aphro and dio

instead of aphro and ares

[twilit lodge]

Spoilers

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

There’s a duo between every pair

[rustic vale]

Every olympian pair has duos

[sly ridge]

that works somewhat like the current duo for ares and aphro

where hangover inflicts weak

[twilit lodge]

We are actively being trolled

[rustic vale]

That is

Something I have realised

Or at least

[sly ridge]

bruh im being serious

[rustic vale]

Really really hope

I really really really hope you are trolling rn

[sly ridge]

are you implying thats a thing already

[twilit lodge]

Look at the codex and you can see what every boon does

I’m going back to eating and watching LOST

[sly ridge]

what part of the codex are boons in

[rustic vale]

low tolerance

Aphro dio

Makes you be able to inflict hangover 8 times to weakened foes

Instead of 5

[twilit lodge]

Look at the codex page for a god and then press whatever button it says to view boons

It’s - on switch

[rustic vale]

It’s - on switch

[sly ridge]

i was thinking of just making it so hangover inflicts weak

[rustic vale]

That’d be so useless

[twilit lodge]

Weak already inflicts weak

[sly ridge]

i mean like

a stronger weak

wait

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

Curse of longing is non useless because it does something the two statuses don’t do in their own

[sly ridge]

its still weird to me though

[twilit lodge]

Aphro dio duo is non useless because it makes hangover stack higher on weak enemies

Making hangover inflict weak when you already have another boon that inflicts weak (as a prerequisite to the duo) is useless

[sly ridge]

that makes sense

but what if the weak that was inflicted

was like

70% or something like that

unless weak effects can be upgraded

[twilit lodge]

Pointless argument because the game is finished and that’s not how any Aphrodite duo works

[rustic vale]

They can

With 3 other boons

[sly ridge]

now i feel stupid for dragging this on

over sea storm

[old belfry]

it ok

[rustic vale]

It ok

[sly ridge]

i think ima get back to my beo run

[twilit lodge]

How did the Rama em4 go

[old belfry]

beo is unironically godmode

[twilit lodge]

Beo is godly unironic mode

[rustic vale]

Do you know how to build beo or are you just doing whatever feels right

[twilit lodge]

Sea storm beo 💪

[rustic vale]

so the core of normal beo is pos cast/arte strike mirage shot charge shot hammer

tag on sea storm if you want ig

but you can really take it whichever which way

With kinda any boons

[sly ridge]

i forgot im not even doing beo

im doing zeus

i got mixed up after the whole beo thing

[sly ridge]

i died on theseus

got caught by a shockwave from asterius that run

[twilit lodge]

Purple shockwave or green?

[old belfry]

unironic purple shockwave enjoyer

[sly ridge]

purple

somehow it hit me twice and the two 16's killed me

[twilit lodge]

Me below 32 health in heroes, fully expecting to die:

[sly ridge]

i wasnt even that low

i had a dd left and i went in with 170 health

i almost got asterius killed

if i didnt keep getting hit by that spin attack he did

[lean timber]

the one that hits for 10 and has a nice n high rehit rate which means you usually take 30 or more

yeah

they call it the beyblade

[sly ridge]

a single hit did 22 damage to me

[lean timber]

yeah

[latent moon]

Beyblade moment

Classic hp delete move

[lean timber]

slicing shot if it was good:

i wish there was 30% more hitlag

honestly

rofxic

kill yourself immediately

still garbage

chad

[sly ridge]

back to zeus run

i ended up getting pressure points from artemis

breaching rush
minotaur rush
ferocious guard

which one

@lean timber sorry to ping but i kinda need an opinion on this

no

[lean timber]

listen bro i hate shield with a passion but minotaur rush is good and so is ferocious guard

[sly ridge]

its the one that has the white flash while charging

[lean timber]

i'm the bow guy

[sly ridge]

💀

[lean timber]

please stop

[sly ridge]

i hit a crit on a wringer and did 41 damage

[lean timber]

L

on special right??

[twilit lodge]

Time to try to make hades spear work again with this cursed no Artemis attack c1 seed

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699090167788470284/1027037501069721631/unknown.png

Spicy build so far

Just one issue

[sly ridge]

no

[swift inlet]

THREE witch rooms

[sly ridge]

normal attack

[twilit lodge]

Imagine doing damage

[sly ridge]

nice

unhealthy fixation

AND parting shot

on the same aphro boon

which should i do

forget it ima pick on me own

goin in with only 105 health

[snow skiff]

WHY DO TRIALS TAKE LIKE 10 YEARS ON JS3

[swift inlet]

because everything takes 10 years with js3

[snow skiff]

i was spawnkilling everything and that room took like 1:30

[sly ridge]

going in aspho with feather duster

ah yes

12 damage crit

oh boy

i can fight charon

kinda scared to do it tho

ill just pass on it

ayyyy zag finally called bone hydra lernie

time to go back to ely

[rustic vale]

Zag finally called lernie* lernie

[twilit lodge]

Man I probably shouldn’t have taken this damage on attack chaos curse

But I wanted a third epic dash strike

[sly ridge]

i hate aphro so much in trail of the gods

it was a trial between artemis and aphro

[latent moon]

Dem is also pretty bad

The thing stun locks you so bad I hate it

[lean timber]

dem is easily the absolute worst god to go against in any space, either trials or on theseus' side

[old belfry]

i dont like dio either

[lean timber]

the vortex stun locks because of its ridiculously high rehit rate, which wouldn't be so bad if you could dash out of it, but you pretty much cannot and it's HUGE

[latent moon]

At least against Theseus you kinda know where it's gonna start but also the range is so freaking big

[lean timber]

dio is ok it's ramdom

[twilit lodge]

Oh good you can still give up after dad kills you

Lmao

Hades spear not based

[lean timber]

you didn't use it correctly then

wrong

[old belfry]

z

z

zag

zag spear gud spear

[rustic vale]

True

Literally all of them

Varatha

ez

[sly ridge]

YES

I GOT ASTERIUS OUT THE WAY

now i just gotta beat the goofy gun man

i lost my least dd

last*

but i broke the chariot

YES

SCREW THESEUS

now i gotta get through styx without any death defiance

[swift inlet]

Yooo

[latent moon]

Get patty in styx

[swift inlet]

2:06 tart with hera and no fountain

[latent moon]

Based

[swift inlet]

yes

story rooms > midshop

[latent moon]

Yeah

Also nectar is incredibly good

Free gold I guess

Yeah

Good for Hermes and duos

It honestly depends on your gold count tbh tho

You'd either have to take plume to aspho or get both Hermes before eury

Rare crop can't hit hermes

If your build is done in tart you could take it for aspho

Hourglass better for Ely tho

[rustic vale]

Bouldy boons

[latent moon]

True

[sly ridge]

im so close to dying in styx

and ive only been in one path so far

[swift inlet]

Sobbing bc of flame wheels

Really upset bc I had a zoomin dad fight

[twilit lodge]

Oh my god hades spear is cursed

Or this seed is

[rustic vale]

Wdym hades spear is cursed

[twilit lodge]

Flame wheels in a tart Erebus gate

[rustic vale]

Cursed seed hades spear is baswd

[twilit lodge]

Took this cursed seed and ran eris

Doing so much better

[chilly flume]

Just got my first win with all 6 weapons.
Do heat rewards stack? Like going heat 3 will give me rewards for heat 1 and 2 if I didn't get them?

[twilit lodge]

Nope

Going above the heat requirement does nothing

Nothing that going exactly at the heat requirement wouldn’t do, anyway

[chilly flume]

Oh, I see

Thank you!

[twilit lodge]

You can do (per) weapon: 1 2 3 4 5 6 and get a bounty each time or you could do 16 16 16 16 16 16 and still get a bounty each time

Is triple bomb incompatible with rockets?

[rustic vale]

No

[twilit lodge]

Bet ty

My options for hammer 1 are targeting, triple, ricochet

[rustic vale]

Cluster > triple bomb though for rocket bomb

[twilit lodge]

Hold up lemme just mod my switch mid run

[rustic vale]

Which weapon?

[twilit lodge]

Eris

[rustic vale]

I thought you meant you already had rockets

[rustic vale]

Aspect*

[twilit lodge]

No I wanna make sure I don’t lock myself out of rockets

[rustic vale]

are you running zeus or dio attack because arguably ricochet when dio attack is possibly gaming

[twilit lodge]

Zeus

[rustic vale]

Ah then triple bomb

[twilit lodge]

I have storm lightning so basically I already have ricochet

[latent moon]

the lightning damage drops off per chain

[rustic vale]

Lightning strike already bounces without storm lightning

[twilit lodge]

Now it will mega bounce

[rustic vale]

and yeah it’s a 20% multiplicative reduction per chain iirc

[twilit lodge]

Ryze from LoL collab when

Let me bounce my chain lightning off myself

[rustic vale]

It doesn’t need to bounce more than it already does

Storm lightning is the only cringe zeus boon

[latent moon]

opens splitting tho so it's based

[twilit lodge]

And it’s the only way Zeus strike can open splitting so

I think?

[rustic vale]

Just use a different zeus core and get double strike or high voltage

[twilit lodge]

Just get Zeus aids

[rustic vale]

Honestly high voltage >>>>>>>> storm lightning

[latent moon]

i mean if it's offered and the other two aren't great options like lightning reflexes or vengeance, might as well take storm lightning

[rustic vale]

Zeus aids 😳
I wonder how many greece women had that

[swift inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797154925447741483/1027060291055398984/unknown.png

[rustic vale]

wait am I thinking about the wrong disease

[swift inlet]

Legacy is a scam

[latent moon]

true

[twilit lodge]

You mean how many living creatures on the planet

[swift inlet]

Then again I have 1 epic boon so

Pride is also a scam

[latent moon]

true

[rustic vale]

I have a whole portfolio of victory screens proving legacy is a scam

[swift inlet]

same

I had one with a legendary + 3 duos lmao

[rustic vale]

I have multiple with 4 or 5 duos+legendaries

a lot with 3 duos/legendaries

[swift inlet]

bussin

[twilit lodge]

What’s the most duos possible I wonder

Or achieved I guess

Since possible would be potentially v high (just get the boons)

So many cast specific so that knocks it down quite a bit already

[rustic vale]

You can theoretically have a 7 god pool

excluding chaos and hermes

[twilit lodge]

Wasn’t it 8

[rustic vale]

Uh

Actually yes

8 in styx

[twilit lodge]

Shop+exit to get 5 tart

Then force 3 more

[rustic vale]

sorry I got confused because I remembered 7 from talking about theseus god call

[twilit lodge]

8pool any%

Why is asphodel so short

And Elysium so long

[rustic vale]

Cuz the devs want you to suffer

why is there no hades infinite mode

[twilit lodge]

Why is there no unlimited hammers mode

SMH where is my zen garden mode SGG

[rustic vale]

Smh where is my hunting blades freezing vortex SGG

why are they incompatible

[twilit lodge]

First room of Elysium and zag says “more strong bows?”

SMH zag

[rustic vale]

It would be so funny if freezing hunting blades was a thing

Pop mirage shot and arctic blast and

boom you win

[lean timber]

having to live and die all those times confuses zag

[twilit lodge]

Yay rocket bomb hammer2

Trockets heart rend time

[rustic vale]

trockets gaming

[twilit lodge]

Zeus strike who

[rustic vale]

zeus strike is for a needs

Real gamers use dio

[twilit lodge]

Sia strike

https://tenor.com/view/sia-furler-chandelier-titanium-clap-claps-palmas-gif-17098837

[rustic vale]

[vital tapir]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/989083298099785730/1027072034192248852/unknown.png?width=1053&height=592

miserable screenshot

[twilit lodge]

C1 boon world record time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997466907030605934/1027074793083768912/IMG_3436.jpg

[latent moon]

gamer

[twilit lodge]

gilGAMERsh

[vital tapir]

gilgamesh is a different category surely

[snow skiff]

they literally removed it because it was too good

[twilit lodge]

TFW tart me but c35 ddash 💀

[vital tapir]

just got 5 sacked two runs in a row

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/del-bosque-oof-gif-18305836

[twilit lodge]

100 deaths Hypnos dialog

Based

[twilit lodge]

@cyan crown early heat should probably be things like extreme measures 1, tight deadline 1

Middle management

[cyan crown]

Okay okay

Also can i discuss hidden aspects in here?

[twilit lodge]

Jury summons isn’t terrible but some weapons get overwhelmed easily by extra adds

Yes

[cyan crown]

Um so

I have 5 Titan blood invested in the bow rn

What do I have to do to get rama

[twilit lodge]

Have to learn about Guan Yu first

By unlocking 5 non zag aspects

Which costs at least 5 blood

[cyan crown]

I have it unlocked

I also have Luci

[twilit lodge]

Oh ok

[cyan crown]

My Hera and Eris are lvl 2 rn

[twilit lodge]

Then you need to get a conversation from Artemis about coronacht the bow

[cyan crown]

Arty?

Damn

[twilit lodge]

I think? Idr lmao

[cyan crown]

How many runs does it take approx

[twilit lodge]

Yeah it’s arty

I dunno, once I actually had 5 aspects unlocked and guan Yu revealed they all showed up pretty quickly

[cyan crown]

Lmao okay

Ig I'll just have to use her keepsake more often

Also do i have to have the bow on me?

[twilit lodge]

So for me I had already had most of the “you’re using this weapon I know something about” first conversations

Which meant I just had to see the right god after guan Yu to get the awakening phrase conversation

If you’ve already had the first bow conversation with Artemis you don’t need to be using it for the second conversation

But if you don’t remember/know if you’ve had the first conversation yet, you might wanna keep doing bow runs with Artemis keepsake start

[cyan crown]

Okay

Also

Suppose I'm searching for heart rend alr?

I've got Artemis atk and Aphro special on sword

When i get to Aphro next time suppose the boon doesn't show up

Can I risk the fated circle to presumably get the boon the next time or

Will both of the gods always show up before a duo boon apoears

Yk what I'm talking about right?-

[twilit lodge]

They don’t have to have the unique conversation with both of them, before a duo

[cyan crown]

Okay so I'm cool with using one of the fated balls?

[twilit lodge]

And as long as it’s not a double god room

You can reroll it and have another chance at the duo

[cyan crown]

Trial ym?

[twilit lodge]

Yeah

[cyan crown]

Okay tysm

[twilit lodge]

Trials can’t have duos

[cyan crown]

Okay

What are some gd aids in the game after zeus's

[twilit lodge]

I like Aphrodite and Artemis

[cyan crown]

Okay

[twilit lodge]

I don’t like the others so much

[cyan crown]

Is Dio good?

[twilit lodge]

Dionysus is good if it’s your only source of hangover

If you have other sources they can overwrite the hangover from call

[cyan crown]

Um

I dont really know what hangover does exactly

[twilit lodge]

Like drunken dash hangover does 2 damage

Every 0.5 second

[cyan crown]

Like does it slow down or smh

[twilit lodge]

Does damage over time

[cyan crown]

Okay okay

[twilit lodge]

And it stacks up to 5 times normally

[cyan crown]

Oh

Okay

[twilit lodge]

Dionysus call does a decent amount of hangover damage but if you have another attack that does hangover it will replace the hangover from call

And be weaker

[cyan crown]

Okay so i just got to have Dio call only

[twilit lodge]

Just one dio core at once in general really

Because of the overwrite issue