#h1-discussion
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just dont get 5 sacked
which ones left?
maxing out keepsakes (i'm missing only a couple) and getting all companions (i don't have 1, i think from Patroclus)
oh that shouldn't be too hard
it's actually Achilles, just checked
well, close enough
these two, Aphrodite and Meg are the only ones i don't have max affinity with yet
Aphrodite locked because of Meg, Meg one ambrosia away from complete and the gay dudes i just unlocked the remaining hearts
Support fire except it does 40 damage per arrow
Support Fire except it does 40 arrows per damage.
40 damage arrows
for rama, which duo would you be more inclined to go for, smair or heart rend?
Smair.
ok but consider: funny big number
literally
2:12 tart leave?? hello??
Yeah
If you're going for a good time expect to see tartarus a lot
I HATE THIS RAT!!!!!
I HATE HIM!! STOP APPEARING IN MY RUNS!! I'M SICK OF HIM KNOWING I HAVE A GOOD TIME AND APPEARING OUT OF NOWHERE!!
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSDD TO BE COMMON SO WHY HAVE YOU BEEN IN 75% OF MY RUNS WITH GOOD TIMES
this rat has STOLEN sub 10 from me three times today. TODAY. JUST TODAY
tony rat winning
i give up bro.
rat + 4 sack
went from sub 10 to sub 13 MAYBE.
12:51.
this swear filter is really disheartening.
well, i got one good thing out of this... i managed to get the "death defier" clear message with dd's. lol
Don't beat yourself up so much over a number. You're doing it for the practice, no?
With more practice, you'll be able to get a sub 10 even with a 3-sack and Tiny Vermin.
now that would be crazy
Very doable.
sounds like a lot more practice...
i can get vermin done in like 45s. it just sucks cuz i can finish dire bother and snakestone in 5. satyr is a little slower usually
Well, you've only practiced for like 2 days now, right?
And already make good progress in that time.
"through the expanse of time, i often wondered, is it necessary to be fair?"
- chaos, the first time seeing him after the Rat Incident
tbf i did like a day worth of practice before this
but that was a while ago
It takes you more than 8 hours per run?
I got sub 5 walking to Persephones garden rn lets go
beo doesn't need mirage or more casts to be good, it's already really strong to begin with
You don’t need luck for beo, it’s nice but not required
You only need mirage + ammo to instaphase
my 40 heat boonless runs are a testment to that even though i never finished a run
Otherwise you can just meme on em by holding block 24/7
but yeah, mirage, more casts, and hyper delivery on beo only exist for instaphases
doom strike rarity, ME, impending doom, cshot, hyper delivery for instaphasing 🧠🧠🧠
Phalanx flare as well
heck yeah buddy
Heartbreak strike artemis flare oh wait hunter flare is the tiniest step up from castless
10% crit chance who did this to you buddy
same on hunter cast
I know that was supposed to be a joke but in theory wouldn't dash strike MEowulf do more dps
heart rend time baybee
i doubt it? dstrikes on beo aren't exactly the fastest things
heck yeah buddy
Not funny
I still don't know how dash strikes actually work

Are they bounded to the attack cooldown
wdym
Cause if you just blow your dashes quickly wouldn't you just attack on both dashes
Or does slower weapons make dash striking slower
i'm pretty sure there's still wind up time before you actually hit
like dstriking on beo makes you block faster than a standing strike on beo right
idk how to explain it
but like, the time it takes to do 2/3 dash strikes on beo to instaphase dad, i doubt MEowulf can be that fast
13:17 ☹️
heck yeah buddy
4
we're at two so far let's see
Dw this time you'll get gigantic rat instead
i would love that.
Is giant snakestone or satyr considered faster
I'd wager satyr since he's in melee range + there's walls and the funny spinning blades
Anthony 
snakestone i can crush pretty easily. satyr takes longer for me personally
ok well this run doesn't count because i let meg kill me because chain shot + chaos curse took all three of my dd's
i thought i could manage
i was wrong
Sloth curse in elysium, and all 4 of the encounters I had to do with it were the fiery chariot guys and the normal chariots
Hyper sprint + reflex ez
I had 1 Hermes boon and it was attack quicker
Hermes really goes
"Today I offer you god tier speedrunning setup. Tomorrow? Flurry cast"
Common, shield with double attack
F
F
Was still something
pulv blow only really viable on zag shield anyways
Ok but imagine if they buffed the special/attack speed boons
Do you remember your other options
Imagine Arthur swinging as fast as regular swords
I think it was dash to regain health and special speed
Oh lmao
Quick recovery kinda nice but like
Not my favourite options all around
Like if you said hypersprint I would’ve been worried about your sanity
Considering I spam dash 90% of the time and I don't regain any noticeable health, I don't really like it
Yeah idk I don’t pick it up often
Hyper sprint is the one that makes you sturdy and 100% faster after dashing, right?
Or is it just a plain speed boost
Finally, chaos mentioned my shield
👍
chaos time
Do I have to do his little mission for beowulf?
No
Well I'm doing it anyways
If he tells you the waking phrase, all you have to do is go back to the shield and reveal it
quick recovery is really good at high heat because it goes through lc4 lmao
maybe not good but really nice
Quick recovery mid
ngl the only times i remember having quick recovery on high heat is when it was epic
and like
I was gonna ask about that but knowing it works is really nice
epic quick recovery over swift flourish is a no brainer
uh what 😭
lmao
was anyone gonna tell me this VITAL information
i mean i found that out after i had my high heat stint
that's true i guess
i didn't trust that i figured it was an oversight
Second wind, rd, legendaries are nice but hard to get
Quick reload on specifically hera is good
Everything else is either cope pick or swift strike
bro
Hermes has legendaries?
yes
I have never gotten one
just get it then
i think you guys get tunnel vision sometimes lol. hermes has a lot of great stuff. it's just situational sometimes
they have specific conditions that are generally not worth picking up tho lmao
L untrue
Hermes legendary base rarity is 1%
Idk dude i have never been like 'man i really want a greater evasion right now'
I really gotta upgrade God's Legacy
I just want legendaries man
why waste a hermes on a legendary when you can get hyper delivery lmao
greater evasion?? ond of the best damage reduction in the game??
man
Unreliable
I wonder if it's possible to reach 100% dodge
technically yes but it's not up all the time
Feather, gauntlets, Hermes boons, I'm sure I could eventually
zag fists
Too many words
God i hate that. don't say that sentence.
Equivalent of old people listening to modern slang
i mean it definitely is possible, it just wont be up all the time
What that mean
you can't get up to 100% with just that stuff, you need ruthless reflex and that gives dodge temporarily
feather + gauntlets + greater evasion seems possible if not
Very very rough to accomplish
Gonna try that tomorrow
no
81.8 assuming 39 encounters which is not possible
then ruthless reflex gives +50% dodge chance for a low duration if you dodge
with ruthless reflex it works
Can't wait to 100% the game and then use mods to do stuff that shouldn't be possible
+second wind for 15 seconds so like
Like getting a chaos portal in the satyr tunnels
Only doable temporarily I guess
exactly

Wait
feather only gives the bonus on the last room in styx, i added 5 on top of 34 which is the second to last combat chamber in ely
34 encounters before champs isn't even possible but i didn't want to count the rooms
What about the one duo boon that makes the call charge really fast with only 1 bar, and the boon that increases dodge after using a call?
still temporary
Smair
Smouldering air
Ye
i guess if you can chain calls back to back within 10 seconds you can
Comes back in 5 seconds
Smair, I don't like that word
how fast does smair charge again
Use it with Artemis call for max efficiency
dammit now i have to actually count the encounter chambers then
does c1 count even though there's like 1 enemy
lmaoooo
aight
Do I become visible after attacking using hades call?
I just got the keepsake so idk how it works
12 tart, 14 last
22 aspho, start 17, end 24
34 ely, start 27, end 36
13 tart encounters
7 aspho enc
9 ely enc
5 styx
34 total?? welp i wasn't too far off with my guess lmao
on minor calls yeah, you keep the atk bonus and i think speed? on greater call you keep the invisibility too
if you get swind and greater evasion you can get it but you need good rarities
need to read the call tool tip to know it
interesting that doesn't need ruthless
Look at the call
Also it turns out all the info I saw on the call was stuff I thought was on the keepsake
So uh, am currently in bed, how good exactly is the attack buff?
if you get common swind you need at least rare greater evasion, if you get common greater evasion epic swind
100% dodge doable without ruthless reflex i guess
+50/75/100% global? right
I can do some crazy things with that
Or is it just attack and special and call
Always global
Also a fun one is that it clears poison
it's typically only taken into the dad fight, maybe champs fight if you want but less likely/needed
That brings up a question I have that I will answer myself tomorrow
on small call you lose all bonuses after attacking or after two seconds, whichever comes first, with greater call you keep everything for five seconds? i think?
Champs if you already have second hermes
Don’t want to open up quick favour and second wind if you want rd
Bad wording from the game
You only lose the invisibility
So I keep the damage buff at all times or...?
you lose it after 2 sec
That'd be a bit busted otherwise
L
On activation you get +100% global for 2 secs (minor) and for 5 seconds on greater
I think the speed doesn't stack properly with hypersprint though
Yeah is weird
Not that broken ol
so it's like a temporary epic rd then? or does it still stack a bit on top of rd
I wonder how much I could do if I got lucky with it, minotaur rush, charge shot, Artemis attack boon, all the mirror stuff, an attack buff from chaos and hades call
Stacks with rd
so what's the funky stuff happening then?
Dad call also offers move speed but smth smth doesnt apply if you have hyper sprint
You still get the dmg buff
i miss zeus shield and feather duster 😦
so it doesn't give you the speed boost but the game recognizes the number it's supposed to be?
Honestly idk exactly
lmao all we know is that it gives more damage and that's all we care about
I like how with the demeter aphrodite duo for demeters cast, you can block it
that's a meme beme moment
I like meme beam
awesome. thanks chaos for being a pal again
Atrophic W
i gave up to take a different curse lmao
also legacy is a scam
yes i'm trying to speedrun hera
4:57 aspho leave i am not good with hera
oh
why 😦
i want to get at least a sub 10 on every weapon
i've done 32 each weapon (not aspect)
also i think bow is my second best weapon
true
theseus?
i never trust snurst pstat. i usually opt for fam fave
i appreciate the funny
but no, the tiny vermin
it's a real rat
And it's so small u can barely see it
yeah. it's not supposed to be common. i've fought it five times today.
:))
but now i'm going beddy bye and hopefully my luck changes for the better because rn i need a little to get a chance at sub 10
actually I think I died the first time because I remember hypnos laughing at me
Technically speaking zag just needs to jump and land on it, crushing its internal organs, bones and burning its flesh off with his fire feet
throw it into the styx as fish bait
If I don't it will come back as a vengeful spirit
Until they are buried properly
Bc those are the rules set out by the Greeks and Romans
Still sucks. 
I think rd might be less valuable than low tolerance on eris hmmmm
Selling a duo and seeing it again is big stonks
True
But I think because of eris
Actually nevermind
You can see low tolerance multiple times
Can’t do same with hermes boons
Who?
yeah
Not quickly
("quickly" in this context means 30s rta)
Tree only clears with omega broken builds
nycta. lol
nycta is speaking about Chaos in this dialogue
and she uses word "Он" which translates as "he " sooo......
yeah
interesting...
i just noticed it after 30+ hours of playing lol
may be cause i dont like and dont use Chaos lol
Chaos gud tho
may be. Personaly i dont like his time courses. I want get bonus now , not after 3-5 fights. Plus i play as Leroy
Chaos either gives you not earning gold in exchange for an extra cast, 70% attack damage, and double gold in the future
Or sends the armies of Satan after you for two nickels and a toothpick snapped in half
Or they challenge you to beat dad with the egg
wait a min. Are you artist of hades ?
What-
yeah iirc the decision was made in some languages to translate the gender neutral "they" into "he" because of lack of gender neutral pronouns but chaos is still very much intended to be non binary
i cant tell which dialogue that is in the screenshot, because my russian is very bad. duolingo beginner level lol
also members of supergiant have red names
after giving chaos a gift
red names ?
oooooh ok i got it
sorry
Yeah it won't be fast but it's still a lot of damage
If you don't want to rely on mirage shot you can use passion flare with snow burst with privileged status
Typically only done at high heat when ap2 isn't active but it's still strong
Tbh I think the only high roll thing you need is cshot
Doable without but it's kinda a pain
so on gy even if i don't die with low health i can't seem to get enough damage out with td3 to make it past tart on 31 heat
Need charged skewer
Or always take free rooms even if they're useless to you
i think i already was but i'll try
gy bad
i can't guarantee a hammer
Yeah but that's what u need
Reset if u have to
I just don't touch spear
i like achilles a lot more than gy that's for sure
Gy insane with guaranteed charged skewer
it do be
I made the mistake of taking a styx hammer thinking I could savescum
It didn't work, no idea why
I didn't buy anything else before it
Its like good hestia
i switched to achilles
is there any way to make trippy shot give you your crystal back faster?
will that hermes boon effect it?
Use stygian soul
well then i have only 1 anyway
Just get more casts
Ur either stuck with stygian and forced to pray for more casts or you're stuck with infernal
Trippy bad
You would probably get fully loaded on trippy anywaus
See you in about half a hour after i've gotten the Gift of Song Prophecy
did you guys forget about the hermes legendary that gives you two extra casts and allows you to recharge OR pick up, whichever is faster?
i love that boon when playing Beowulf
it's awesome with certain casts
fr
Hermes legendary isng the +2 casts
me when i try to make a joke in the hades server (nobody realizes it)
Artemis is +2 casts although I've seen legendry boons maybe two dozen times in 200+ runs
Fully loaded on cast builds are a myth
Support fire
why do i hear Exagryph and Malphon enthusiasts suddenly bursting into laughter
even crazier idea, make SF trigger normal attack boons
Except faster and with better tracking
Artemis deserves it
Let it happen
Doesnt splitting spawn directly on the enemy anyways
I ain't gonna complain.
Probably, but it also sometimes goes to waste if an enemy dies and it wanders off
Trust me 90 damage support fire is balanced
i would argue it's necessary
i have been spamming the E key on the lyre for the last 10 minutes
WHY DO I HAVE TO INTERACT WITH THE DAMN THING 210 TIMES
Remember you need to interact with orpheus too
awesome
i have a feeling that you can't get the remark from Zagreus if you buy it and then go for it immediately
i'm probably wrong, but it helps to be sure
turns out that it did help
Just did a run of 8 heat for Skelly's first prize trophy, but didn't realize you had to beat the main story for that first 
Will it unlock automatically after I beat it, or do I have to run again?
I mean, it's not too much of a problem, but yeah asking if anyone knows
it should unlock automatically
i didn't realize there were skelly statues until after i beat 16 heat lmao
i think i found out on accident when i missed the interact button to exit and interacted with the skelly statues lol
Oh nice, that's cool if true
big if true
imagine someone doing 32 heat and not realising that there were Skelly Statues until they tried heat 50 or something lol
Smh steam not having an achievement for 32 heat
i mean the skelly statues don't give you anything really, i think they only exist just as a goal of 32 heat
fr fr
still pretty funny though, there isn't even a Prophecy for getting all the Skelly Statues, just the first one
32 heat is pretty difficult for casual players and for the 100% completionists it might take a very long time unless they get outside help
I did it with crappy beo rng so can they
most people dont realize beo is good lol
it's the most fun shield aspect by a country mile imo
casual players dont realize the potential of beo because it feels clunky at first
which is also the reason why they're drawn to chaos shield even tho it's really bad
it's fun if you know how to build it
I was drawn to zeus shield at first
Despite never playing it
Chaos is just braindead
Is Smouldering Air good with Zeus Aid?
yeah
nah
it's a blessing that zeus aid is good with smair and that it's a prereq for smair lol
Best Duo Boon in the game.
if it wasn't it'd be more of a pain to get smair going
Poseidon rip current smair my beloved
Merciful end just requires so much setup
Even without stacks of zeus support boons zeus smair just melts
Is there any particular build that goes into cold fusion really well?
Off the top of my head hera seems perfect for it
Easy specs into smair and cf
cold fusion is dem zeus duo that makes jolted last 10 sec or something
Hera? I can't see that.
Probably wouldn't be able to
fists i guess with zeus atk and dem special
Mirage Shot isn't too important on Hera.
Didn't you yourself say that mirage is wanted on hera-
mirage isn't needed but it's really nice
Could've sworn you wrote a guide for hera
It's good to have, but it's not the priority.
and tbh since you want aphro cast and tdash, if you happen to find arty naturally it's something worth shooting for tbh lol
but like i wouldn't force arty
unless i already have tdash in tart
i meant arty not aphro in the 2nd message lol
Ah
Heresy.
aphro mid use dem cast on hera
For what reason
i still can't believe dem cast just gets dropped off and isn't a flare
You get snurst anyway
Crystal beam hera is insanely op
i do not like the word snurst
and i do understand that it's a good boon but i've never liked it lmao
yeah
Snurst is op
every god can proc PS
half do it naturally, other half need a secondary boon
that's why cold fusion is great
if you get jolted yeah lmao
🧠 run fo2 so cold fusion jolt does more damage
Enemies attack more = more jolted procs
All 8 of the status curses listed here. https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Status_effects#Status_Curses
but the slow counteracts the fo2
does it not lmao
Why the need to short name everything 
Broke: using smair dio/zeus aid for damage
Woke: using smair aphro aid to interrupt every one of dad's attacks
so it's curse of longing but jolted
Her boons are great at high heat, though. Well, not Nourished Soul.
Dem sux don't buy her
frozen touch unironically pretty insane
Dem no make number go brrrr
because snurst is hilarious and i love it
Do you guys know when the game is up for sale
Nah.
Well crap looks like I will have to wait a bit more
Generally with the typical big steam sale times like thanksgiving and Christmas
New year, lunar new year, and summer too I think?
What is the upcoming holiday
my birthday
Closest is Thanksgiving I guess so late November but idk if it'll go on sale earlier for any reason
Bro I will just borrow my friend's account who has the game but that dump mofo didn't play it once so I will just tell him to give me his account
Halloween
my birthday was 3 months ago
Thats what you get
ok
Still don't understand my friend buying the game and never playing it well I do that Alot like I have the whole series of cod and assassin's creed but never played it
True
Well he is giving me his account atm but I have a question
Can we use the Xbox app on pc like at the same time
The account I mean
Why can't I eqp two gift
Like I want the lucky tooth and one more
But I can't equip more than one
I remember I can equip two
you cant
You say you rember, but you clearly forgor
sup
Yeah
If you're on PS, it's on sale now
how does hades being on sale have to do with privileged status
is this family favorite user discrimination
I don't really know you but my guess would be you're kidding
this man has never told a joke in his life
I am 100% serious
Mhm
He’s dead serious
hello hello
very based
Oh it's been a week already lmao
sup
not much
can anyone take a screenshot of mom pom with bond forged
max save file doesn't have it
sweet thanks
np
hi :3
hello
Nope pc race
No discounts for you then 
Omg that first one 
It's like 1 encounter off lmao
“Max” save file
scam
No one uses mom pom
Also it's like 1 encounter off you'll max it mid run
Not having the bond forged is 1 ambrosia off too iirc
anyone doing runs with a maxed file on speedrun.com could change that
you never know!
Tmw you reset 40 times just to get the starting god you want because you have to show your last death
They maxed distant memory and not mom pom 
maybe the meta of beo becomes cast + mom pom for the entire run afterward, not picking up anything after...

Distant memory should’ve been base damage
the keepsake is maxed
it's just no bond forged
assuming max save file was created before true ending and all that
yeah its me my bad
wait
i swear it wasn't maxed
damn
talos gimmick doesn't work with dupper right, only standing upper?
I think it does work on duppers
it works on duppers iirc
no it still sucks
yeah ofc
but doesn't suck as badly
but standing uppers suck, at least it works on duppers
Hold yp
Can rare crop just not hit heroic boons
I mean it makes sense but
I never thought about it till it just happened
Also this is the second time my attempts at a demeter run with demeter special have been derailed by another god offering and exchange for a heroic flourish
first was artemis with +100% special damage now is poseidon with like +200%
what aspect is this lmao
oh dem aspect
reading comprehension
tempest flourish sounds terrible on enemies ngl lmao do all the uppers land fast enough before they go flying
Idk I just see things hit walls and die
based
no
ofc
not gonna lie
i would 100% prefer if it didn't work on duppers
the magnet pull makes the special so STICKY
“Bad”
like you
What happens if you hazard bomb yourself after beating hades
You can't
😩
That'd be a hilarious supergiant moment
The entire house of hades gives Zag grief for it
"Only you would slay the countless legions of the underworld and your own father to escape, then blow yourself up 10 feet from the exit"
can you kill yourself with hazard bomb?
Or is it like chaos curses where you can’t actually kill yourself if you keep attacking
you can
time for lightning strike start
shackle start
get lightning strike anyways
Hmmmm
I’m taking a zeus erebus gate right now because the other room option is literally useless
Obols but I have a chaos boon meaning I can’t get any obols
Lightning strike is insane
Literally didn’t get offered zap strike anyways
C5 epic jolted lets goo
119 damage
Chaos giving +157% backstab damage is like
Literally golden
except
Not literally
I just mixed up my in game timer and my td timer and almost had a heart attack
Zeus aid over Dionysus for overall damage?
zeus does more damage if you have more zeus boons
dio does more damage if you have more poms
dio aid does more damage if you have duos
True
install some mods
you can have a companion and a keepsake if that’s what you mean
or you can switch your keepsake midrun
I know that
Max out some people with gifts and ambrosia
kinda lategame stuff
I think?
yeah you need to build relationship with some people
complete certain people's favors
Can’t believe I forgot antos who gives you the achilles companion
Just get meg and a random one to unlock using it on dad
meg and skelly
Meg and Than
that won't let you use meg on dad
Dropping bouldy or antos on dad 💪💪💪
Amir lets me use Meg on dad. Thanks, Amir. 
Bouldy best girl
is bouldy female?
Bouldy best thing
what is bouldy's gender
bouldy gender is …
idk what gender bouldy is but
looks hella disappointed
fair
Hmmmm
How is that disappointed
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Bouldy is always smiling
Bouldy always has a look of awe on his face
bouldy looks disappointed but happy
bouldy is a boulder
based
He's a bo(uld)y
uld
They a bouldy

Thanatos won't leave, I've been in hermes menu for 30 seconds
Do I just have to go to him
Ye
Level 4 rare crop

5 minute asphodel on a keepsake upgrading run
I think for that you have to end near where than ends for him to leave
actually funnily enough i think the better way to use it is to stupper then cancel it with a dash
how good is talos stupper + snurst
sbad
oh pretty bad
I had an absolutely nasty hera run
Except I got screwed by sack rng and lost all my items so it didn't beat my pb
it do be like that
Ugh, I struggle so hard with the shield enemies in elysium
The spin throws me off guard and it’s harder to aim specifically for their back
did you know that the charged shot hammer for shield ignores enemy shields
just saying
what
Fists and shield are my favorite weapons, so I will look into that hammer
cshot shield is just better bow
https://imgur.com/vxYtG6x what color and thumbnail should I use for this command?
https://imgur.com/N81fiIO for reference this is where color and thumbnail show up
is brown taken
nope but why brown
that's the color of the keepsake box
hm
can you get me a brown color you think would look good
I'll ask amber for the keepsake box asset then
i'm not good with colors so i doubt i'd be able to find a good one but i can try lol
Leveled up aphro cast on hera, rush delivery, 2 ichor to boost speed for rush delivery, 3 braids for more cast damage, and a stone for an extra cast
It instaphased heroes fight and would've deleted hades
Except all my items wore off and I lost 7 years thanks to styx :)
gawd damn
tragic
@swift inlet rod is definitely my favorite replacement for being actually good at dodging
you can just run away while the bolts kill things
@latent moon nobody knows how to do that stop lying
Just get the boons
Oh ok I see
Amb gets c8 ME on 50 heat consistently so just get the boon
@swift inlet delta chamber hesty still let's you manually reload btw so it's just a wasted hammer and doesn't actually harm you
Rail privilege fr
Side note
Does rail or bow have better overall hammers? Because bow feels a bit more consistent with giving at least something you can use, and rail is just delta clockets with a smattering of hazard bomb maybe
How about Cursed Slash still lets me have my normal HP if I choose to not use my normal Attack. 
I think Lucifer specifically has the best hammer balance, even if Triple Bomb is the clear winner. But all of the other hammers are pretty nice upgrades.
That reminds me, I need to play more lucifer
It's also the aspect with the most unique hammers. Probably a cause and effect there.
Mess around with super soaker a couple more times then do some regular luci runs
Is eternal chamber good for anything but super soaker? Maybe zeus/dem attack or something
Eternal Chamber is pretty nice. Not having to worry about reloads at all is a bit underrated tbh.
It would be funny if hangover stacked higher but had a shorter duration
And you could just get 15 hangover stacks up
It's more a utility hammer than DPS, but it's good utility.
Lucifer reloads always also mean you need to go through the long Attack startup again. Skipping the reload entirely will save some downtime there.
- Adamant Rail (Lucifer Aspect): fixed Dash invulnerability persisting after canceling with an attack; range normalized with other Aspects; fixed cases where it triggered some Boon effects very frequently
Aspect would be a lot more popular if they hadn't fixed that. 
Why must they nerf the fun not-as-busted things and let beo have 43 bugs buffing it 😩
i kinda like delta chamber on hesty 

what is ''extreme measures'' ?
makes each of the bosses harder in different ways
Furies get back up from 1 or 2 of the sisters that aren't fighting you (example, if Meg is fighting you, either Alecto, Tisiphone, or both can assist her)
Lernie gets a new arena and his head starts flying at you in the final phase
Theseus gets a chariot and 2 miniguns, and Asterius gets a shockwave during his slam attack AND a new attack where he spins around, covering a large area and doing massive damage
and Hades, well, i haven't done EM4 yet so idk what changes in that
well now you know
have you beaten Hades and gotten the Pact of Punishment?
ye.
it should be available for you to activate when you're making attempt preparations
Hades fight changes a lotttttt
i haven't tried it yet both because i'm not at a high enough heat to justify it and also because i'm deathly scared for what will change lol
its actually a slight upgrade
since you get i frames on your dash strike lol
you dont get iframes on your dashstrike if you do the empowered shot on hestia
Who cares about ap1/2 when you can just seed your runs 🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠
yeah but you do if you use delta chamber right
no
yes
i need proof
Hammer should be possible in erebus and give more options if completed in erebus
I mean
Fully invulnerable dash strikes are pretty cool
Empowered shot sucks
Lightning hestia bestia
Bestia is a word that triggers flashbacks in quite a few people in a different discord i'm in lol

question, i just unlocked the Themes from the house contractor and they don't seem to actually change anything
what do they do exactly?
victory screens
cool
This be all it do to my knowledge
You need them to get the cool checkmark above the work order tab
that happens when you buy everything in that work order tab
I don't even have lounge checkmarked
speaking of that checkmark, i'm working on the Sisyphus prophecy rn, i've maxed out his hearts as far as i can get AND gotten pretty much all of his available dialogue related to his punishment, but the option to buy his freedom isn't available yet, i assume i need to max out Hades' hearts as well in order to get it or is there something i'm missing?
Need a dialogue with nyx
noted
L
I have all the everywhere checkmarked
kill
Just tried out the Aspect of Arthur Sword
I got Heart rend on it and HOLY SH i dealt 3,4k Damage on Hades in one Swing
yep, aspect of arthur is v satisfying to use
aspect of arthur players in shambles when fo2 dc2 js3
dc deez nuts
so i just got the game
is it based on greek mythology?
cuz i read all of percy jackson
im an expert, if you will.
For the most part
no its based on mexican mythology

it's actually hindi that's why rama is the best
It's actually Welsh, which is why Arthur is so good.
what
The Arthurian legend is Welsh in origin. The English stole it
welsh
You know, from Wales
thats an animal
the welsh stole it from me
Wales is south of England. The English got that title by murdering all of the Welsh nobility
Then they marched troops in and just decided they were in charge now. Conquering, ya know
aren't these two """countries""" just the same thing? they are both part of the UK
Classic English lmao
Yes and no, the countries in the u.k are separate entities as well as one country. I'm not sure how it works as I don't live there.
Would it be like the United States
But like the "states" there have more power than the states here or something
I think that's fairly accurate
I'm not super familiar with how it works currently besides that Wales keeps getting outvoted for things like "should we flood Welsh villages to make a new dam"
Also if their independence movements get large enough they can leave
It's not quite the same thing since the original people are still in Ireland and Wales
While native Americans are minuscule in the regions they used to live in
I guess you can compare it to Hawaii? America absorbed it too, but there's still a large number of native Hawaiians there as far as I'm aware. Their culture is still comparatively intact
not really south of england its like on the south west edge of england
True
more west really
Side note
Is exit wounds good on hera specifically?
I got my first sub10 bow run last night and wound up with 7 casts
840 damage on every cycle drop seems really nice
it's good but not something you should be trying to force or anything
if it shows up cool
Yeah, I already had pp and I figured well was a better gamble in elysium than hoping for poseidon
Actually, no, by that point my cores were already filled
So id have to sell a boon, hope for 2 or more poseidons, not get screwed by treasure boons, and luck into mirage
When I could just well and pick up some useful stuff
in that case yeah I think giving up mirage and just going for more arty stuff was the play
i removed the heat thing that gave me the double fight against the sisters and meg mocked me because of it "oh you removed it? lol too much for you?"
the fact that i can get interactions based off of random game choices is so cool
There's an ungodly number of them, yeah
Putting it back on again will give you Alecto/Meg going "oh boy, now I gotta work with my sisters again smh"
Hades has some for if you arrive at him boonless
Side note, Achilles is a lot of fun
The mobility is my favorite part honestly
Achilles is fun until you get a hammer without flurry jab in it
I got flurry lol
Sub 5 lernie on my first real achilles run
Esketit
Should I take ares and try to roll for hunting blades?
I got an extra cast from chaos and all
Hunting blades is probably stronger on Achilles than heart rend
But you might want to get rid of the aphro boon so you only qualify for cast duos
Just a bit worried about not getting blades at all
So at least aphro strike gives some damage
Besides aphro special Arty attack is going to do a lot better with flurry jab
Ah
Right now I'm sure most of your damage is tidal dasg
Dash
If you get hunting blades OR mirage shot you'll still do a ton of cast damage
thanatos just commented on my achilles boon that was cool
Isn't Achilles 150% damage? Aphro attack isn't providing all that much tbh especially not compared to an Arty attack and definitely not at common
Yes
tfw forgetting % bonuses are additive 😩
Lol yeah I feel that
awesome.
That’s more than a 3 sack 🗿
time to play modded
This was after getting the sack
Hot take selling all of a god's boons should punt them out of your pool
It'd help for getting forced unwanted gods out
But ig that'd mess up uc runs
double edged sword lol
I got poseidon on a nem build when I'm not doing tdash
You can just turn it on, can't you
Have you beat the final boss?
Post it to another server then copy message link


