Haha.... yeah....
#h1-discussion
swift inlet
red coral
Tbf fair all I remember about Arther these days is
- Round table
- Camelot
- Eat hot chip
- Lie
mint coral
I only knew arthur and luci
swift inlet
You'd be forgiven for not knowing rama bc there's literally thousands of gods in the hindu pantheon
Rama alone is one of like 10+ versions of a single god it's wild
Long story short for Arthur
- wizard helps boy pull sword and unite England
- boy assembles the avengers- I mean knights of the round table
- they're tryna find a cup Jesus drank from
- oops turns out his wife was banging his bestie
- oops turns out his nephew is evil bc of his mom's influence
- oops Arthur defeats his nephew but dies in the process
It's
Certainly a story
red coral
“Boy assembles avengers” I’m deceased 
swift inlet
That's basically what they were
I'm like 95% certain the justice league made themselves a round table specifically because of Arthur
latent moon
The round table being the original avengers/justice league was not a take I was ready for today
swift inlet
Honestly they literally were
Superheroes are just the modern version of -gasp- mythological heroes
Basically every group of people through history fantasizes about noble people who put others before themselves and have the power to protect them
Even before chivalry type stuff, lots of divine pantheons are seen in the same way
Yeah they can be asshats
But most of the time they're protecting people from something much worse
agile orbit
Hi, Bone Hourglass of Charon can it be used with the purchasable item of fishing point?
agile orbit
😔
high island
9 guaranteed chaos gates
I'll upvote it if you suggest it in #hades-feedback. 
rich gulch
But most of the time they're protecting people from something much worse
It's the concept of noblesse oblige, no? So the common person can delude themselves into thinking that there are people in power out there who will use it responsibly and protect them, instead of throwing them under the bus to save their skin.
When they're not using them like tools, of course.
hardy spear
am i going to have to start using ri for 50 heat
signal aspen
Don't need to
hardy spear
theres hope yet
signal aspen
But that usually means em4 or ap2
hardy spear
agony
rich gulch
EM4 is child's play.
hardy spear
ive never done em4
signal aspen
It's ez
hardy spear
really?
rich gulch
Dad spins one more time, what's the bother?
signal aspen
Try an em4 run with hl5 fo2 and see what you think
rich gulch
As goth mom said "You can overcome any obstacle-"
signal aspen
Keep in mind you are using dds for that practice run while you are going to be using sds in the actual 50 heat run
signal aspen
hes got an extra phase right?
Yes
signal aspen
Yeah just do ri2
rich gulch
Hazard bomb time.
signal aspen
Em4 eris kinda sus
signal aspen
Last six mirror options
So gets rid of rerolls
Foresight
Health
Family favorite
hardy spear
oh man
signal aspen
Pride
high island
hardy spear
fiiine
signal aspen
It's scary over there
hardy spear
i just didnt want to because someone was already talking in there
hardy spear
It's scary over there
also this
hardy spear
Last six mirror options
wait you only listed 5 whats the 6th one
signal aspen
Money
hardy spear
goodness gracious
signal aspen
The one that gives you 100 money to start
hardy spear
is ri 2 or 3 heat
rustic vale
8
signal aspen
2 heat per
signal aspen
50 heat kinda hard!?!?!?!?
hardy spear
unbelievable
whats an expected amount of runs completed before you get to heat this high
rich gulch
It is possible with a dash of luck.
hardy spear
a skill issue if you ask me
mint coral
Need credits for em4 lol
rustic vale
Need credits for em4 lol
mint coral
And meet all bosses in 1st place for EM
hardy spear
and you need to unlock the mirror for ri
rich gulch
Speedrunners should be speerunning trying to convince Hades that he's a big dummy and just win the game in the first engagement.
hardy spear
that's very unexpected honestly
swift inlet
64 heat unseeded when
rustic vale
64 heat unseeded when
As soon as I open up a hell mode save
I need unconventional builds
On a scale from 1-10 how bad would dem attack arctic blast on rail be
signal aspen
1
high island
You'll want Arctic Blast, Killing Freeze, and Ravenous Will for that. And Privileged Status.
You can't scale her t2 boons with poms, so pick whichever has the highest rarity but try to aim for all of them + legendary.
rustic vale
I’m trying to find builds that aren’t bad but also are uncommon
latent moon
Just sounds like go for aphro clockets and Dem atk lmao
mint coral
i hated it from experience
high island
It can be better than a lot of people would think if you build it right, but it's a slow starter and obviously not a high DPS build either way if you compare it to something like Lightning Strike + Tidal Dash. But Chill is still pretty great in boss fights especially.
rustic vale
👍
lean timber
yep
hardy spear
i wish demeter had better builds
rustic vale
On a scale from 1-10 how bad would dem attack arctic blast on rail be
So I’m trying this and got spreadfire
This is kinda just shackle zagrail trading -22% additive for chill rn
latent moon
i wish demeter had better builds
there's snow burst passion flare beo lmao
snow burst is important because of PS
rustic vale
I love charon bag in tart lets goooo
Epic rare crop but I only have 2 boons that can even be hit
should I take it? I have epic demeter attack and blue tidal dash rn
rustic vale
Blue frozen touch purple crystal beam
rustic vale
and this is spread fire zag rail?
Yes
latent moon
uh
rustic vale
I could roll I have 4 rerolls
latent moon
i'd do rare crop but if you want money for future poms or whatever take crystal beam to sell
rustic vale
Think I’ll take rare crop
high island
Can't pom Lady Demeter's t2 boons anyway.
rustic vale
i'd do rare crop but if you want money for future poms or whatever take crystal ...
Who needs money I have charon card I’ll never run out
high island
Frozen Touch would have been good tbh.
rustic vale
now I have rare frost flourish, purple nourished soul and purple ravenous will or reroll
late valley
hi guys check out fan works XD
high island
Ravenous Will 100%.
rustic vale
Figured
high island
You'll want Arctic Blast, Killing Freeze, and Ravenous Will for that. And Privileged Status.
You can't scale her t2 boons with poms, so pick whichever has the highest rarity but try to aim for all of them + legendary.
Basically just that.
rustic vale
I got killing freeze and winter harvest mixed up for a second
high island
Hangover complements her well because can't really pom her boons and Hangover wants poms.
And good for Privileged Status.
high island
Indeed.
Either way it's good for spreading Chill for Killing Freeze and/or getting stacks for Arctic Blast.
latent moon
you dont have any good way to spread hangover at this point
do you have a special boon yet?
signal aspen
aspect of tidal dash
snow skiff
What the hell is that tart
signal aspen
56 seconds left after tart 🗿
high island
Oh right.
snow skiff
Ri0 ap0 tart 
high island
Honestly can just do whatever at this point. Poms on Tidal Dash.
rustic vale
56 seconds left after tart 🗿
A) I’m not a good gamer
B) Fought Charon
latent moon
i mean at this point maybe aphro/arty for a chunky special
swift inlet
Does eury affect duo chances 🤔
high island
Does eury affect duo chances 🤔
Yes.
swift inlet
Big
snow skiff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1016130353028669450/IM...
This is actually so jarring to look at
snow skiff
A) I’m not a good gamer
B) Fought Charon
Oh B explains a lot
high island
Can't people do a fun build anymore without somebody commenting that it's bad or jarring or whatever. 
high island
@rustic vale come to think of it, you could throw Flood Shot > Blizzard Shot into the mix lol.
rustic vale
What did that crop hit
Frost strike and tidal dash lmao it was my 3rd boon
snow skiff
Put on ares cast and get freezing vortex 😈
high island
lol or that.
high island
Put on ares cast and get freezing vortex 😈
Inb4 Curse of Drowning instead.
rustic vale
chaos is trying to give me a dd if I do rooms but attacking loses me hp lmao no
high island
chaos is trying to give me a dd if I do rooms but attacking loses me hp lmao no
Sounds like a good deal to me. Lose 2 DDs, gain 1.
latent moon
just use your special and dash lmao
high island
No, keep attacking to apply chill. It's the point of the build.
high island
Less DDs means better times because you carry less weight.
I mean you have Tidal Dash, should be fine.
rustic vale
I ended up taking max hp for no cast coming back
then fountain then charon then hydra fight
latent moon
that's an asphodel moment
high island
Yup.
rustic vale
Red frost strike and tidal dash
Dad is mad at me because the hydra had a family
Lernie deserved it
asphodel hermes I rerolled for rd and now it’s common flurry cast purple swift flourish common swift strike
high island
Epic Swift Flourish is good.
rustic vale
See I could get rocket bomb but like
Idk explosive fire on spreadfire sounds interesting
Should probably take rocket
high island
Whatever sounds fun, it's not like you're gonna lose that run.
rustic vale
But explosive fire slows and chill slows and I wonder how slow they’d be hmmmm
I’m gonna take explosive fire
signal aspen
spread explosive fire is funny
rustic vale
4 second basket ball fight
signal aspen
basket ball fight
rustic vale
Rocket faster or shoot more faster
signal aspen
shoot more faster
rustic vale
Is common arctic blast worth it
rustic vale
other options are blizzard shot and killing freeze
swift inlet
I'm not good enough but rng also isn't good enough to get me below 10 minutes with nem
swift inlet
I just got a 10:20 :')
rustic vale
common killing freeze
signal aspen
take the blizzard shot
swift inlet
I know nem wr is only 6 something but still
signal aspen
nem wr is like 5:3x iirc modded
swift inlet
I'm doing unmodded unseeded and the highest I saw was 6 ish
swift inlet
sobbing
latent moon
it do be like that
snow skiff
Unmodded sucks
signal aspen
you suck
red coral
I just got a 10:20 :')
Nice work!
swift inlet
I think I need to fully memorize rooms
snow skiff
Take note of what rooms generally take you longer and memorize those
That's what i did
swift inlet
I've remembered a couple but still end up chasing backspawns
snow skiff
No point going full study mode on every room
swift inlet
Stairs room in asphodel is annoying because sometimes skeletons just refuse to follow you up
snow skiff
Asphodel combat rooms are just annoying in general
3 wavemakers spawn and jump in different directions and then you cry
swift inlet
True hell is higher heat fo2 armored wavemakers
Like what are you supposed to do to that besides deflect everything
cshotless beowulf crying
high island
I know nem wr is only 6 something but still
Lol you're a few thousand runs away from times like that anyway. 10:20 is a decent time.
snow skiff
Like what are you supposed to do to that besides deflect everything
Turn on 30x damage hacks
swift inlet
Never going for anything like that, I just wanna break 10 itself
And 20 seconds is more than doable
snow skiff
ME is a very annoying way to go about speed
snow skiff
But crit build rolls for 1 specific hammer so there's really no escape :p
swift inlet
Enjoying sword gameplay really is hell
high island
True hell is higher heat fo2 armored wavemakers
If they fired at you from off-screen, nothing. You just get hit.
swift inlet
Yep
snow skiff
Does fo2 boost projectile speed?
latent moon
yeah believe so
rustic vale
That was the funniest build I’ve done in a while
swift inlet
Yes
high island
Well, FO2 probably still reactable but if they have speeder, you're done.
snow skiff
This is why you just skip asphodel
latent moon
just get all the skips
signal aspen
this is why calculated risk is top 2 boons of all time
swift inlet
And Athena refuses to behave
swift inlet
I keep getting specifically casts 😩
rustic vale
this is why calculated risk is top 2 boons of all time
Out of 2 boons
rustic vale
try just getting the boons
You forgot the ™️
high island
Does it count as skipping all regions if I haven't played since July?
latent moon
17
rustic vale
Yes
signal aspen
first chamber with enemies is 17
latent moon
yeah because 14 is meg, 15 is fountain, 16 is aspho intro
snow skiff
Yeah I said starting room
swift inlet
Should I just
signal aspen
no
signal aspen
no do ME
latent moon
ME is fastest but it's gonna take longer to actually get going
take longer in the sense of doing more runs
snow skiff
C16 start -> c17 chaos -> c18 midshop -> c19 midboss -> c20 fountain -> c21 than -> c22 endshop
It's really that easy
swift inlet
I keep exiting asphodel at like
snow skiff
Wait is endshop 23
latent moon
Wait is endshop 23
yeah
rich gulch
Does it count as skipping all regions if I haven't played since July?
One of the wisest decisions I've ever beheld.
high island
Merciful End, Tidal Dash + Lightning Strike, Heart Rend, Heartbreak Strike + Smair. All decent builds if you just want sub 10.
high island
Nah, not Sea Storm.
swift inlet
I will simply throw on stygian to get smair rend
snow skiff
Boonless sub 8
high island
Just Static Discharge, Tidal Dash, Breaking Wave and whatever t2 Poseidon boons you find pretty much.
Sea Storm isn't really a factor. Basically the same build you'd do on Eris.
rustic vale
So how 4iq is freezing vortex beo
signal aspen
easily top 1 worst slicing shot duo boons
rustic vale
slicing flare
high island
Try it and see for yourself.
signal aspen
slicing flare
whats a flare
swift inlet
Shadow slash doesn't even help dash strikes right
signal aspen
it doesnt
rustic vale
whats a flare
One of those things they have to shot in the sky to tell people where you are
high island
Shadow slash doesn't even help dash strikes right
Correct.
swift inlet
Cries in sword hammers
rustic vale
Is stygian better for slicing flare?
tepid light
swift strike on fists
it's actually pretty nice because i'm playing demeter aspect
signal aspen
Is stygian better for slicing flare?
no
snow skiff
signal aspen
who is that
rustic vale
Wait slicing flare is actually huge
signal aspen
Wait slicing flare is actually huge
no its not
snow skiff
who is that
Randy Z 524
signal aspen
gross
high island
I can't imagine the purpose of a mute is for you to circumvent it.
signal aspen
randy always finds a way
tepid light
speedy teleporting flamewheels
latent moon
Wait slicing flare is actually huge
it honestly is lmao
tepid light
i hate this so much
latent moon
freezing vortex with it honestly might not make any difference considering how large it is
well it will, it prob wont make as much compared to slicing shot
swift inlet
Why'd they get muted
snow skiff
Slicing flare freezing vortex is actually insane
latent moon
idk why i didn't think of that when i did 40 slicing flare
snow skiff
The main issue is that it's slicing flare though lmao
snow skiff
idk why i didn't think of that when i did 40 slicing flare
I mean it's probably still worse than mirage
snow skiff
Chaos rarity is the same as every other god though right
latent moon
probably
signal aspen
i think so
rustic vale
Ew dashing flight minotaur rush explosive return c1
signal aspen
but legendary chance might be lower than other gods
high island
Why'd they get muted
Serendusatea — 09/03/2022
Hey! So, we can’t and won’t disclose why members were muted. At the end of the day they are still valued members of our community.
Disclosing details would not be respectful to anyone involved.
snow skiff
Leg is probably same as hermes
signal aspen
yeah
signal aspen
yeah i think iti s
swift inlet
Ah, gotcha
high island
Is stygian better for slicing flare?
Tbh I think you should just try to figure it out yourself since part of the fun of doing those builds is figuring how to make them work, no?
rustic vale
Yeah
high island
So if you think Stygian might be better, do a run with that and then one with Infernal and see which worked better for you and what ideas you might get to make each of them better.
signal aspen
i think infernal is better because each flare lasts for like 1 second
signal aspen
Like whyyyyyy
flurry cast is busted
snow skiff
I'd rather have common bad news than flurry cast
signal aspen
thanathink
high island
Ah yes, the common legendary.
rustic vale
Vicious cycle in tart
signal aspen
scam cycle
rustic vale
True
snow skiff
Vicious cycle is op for maxed ares call!!!
signal aspen
fr
rustic vale
Fr
latent moon
Yeah
i used infernal myself because room clearing would take so much longer having only 1 at a time
raw herald
anyone know the % chance of seeing chaos defiance? with legacy
signal aspen
anyone know the % chance of seeing chaos defiance? with legacy
at least 10%
signal aspen
pogofgreed
swift inlet
Ok so-
I'm in tart, near the end. Ares/Athena trial or Chaos? I get that chaos is quicker but I'd get a lot closer to ME with the trial
rustic vale
why is cshot so much faster than beo charge lmao
signal aspen
I'm in tart, near the end. Ares/Athena trial or Chaos? I get that chaos is quick...
chamber 12?
swift inlet
10
signal aspen
hmm
snow skiff
What's the rarity distribution for midboss
signal aspen
idk i dont play ME
raw herald
also does anyone know the rarity rolls for miniboss rooms
signal aspen
also does anyone know the rarity rolls for miniboss rooms
nice try randy
raw herald
What's the rarity distribution for midboss
woah what a coinkydink
snow skiff
I'm in tart, near the end. Ares/Athena trial or Chaos? I get that chaos is quick...
Trial kind of bad idea
They can drag on for everrrr
raw herald
nice try randy
whats a randy
snow skiff
Like i'm a solid 3 minute pace tart on a 50 heat run and i take a trial
signal aspen
randy deez nuts
snow skiff
And it wastes like 2 minutes
signal aspen
skill issue
signal aspen
nice
swift inlet
It was nothing but attack/special curse
swift inlet
When I'm playing nemesis
latent moon
a 5 minute leave for aspho would be ideal here
and then 3 minutes ely, 1 styx, 1 dad
latent moon
what's zeus gonna do
swift inlet
Sucks bc of poms but oh well
swift inlet
Yeah that's why I'm like eh
signal aspen
guys i'm going into dad fight with 324/325 hp
reset
snow skiff
guys i'm going into dad fight with 324/325 hp
Reset
latent moon
guys i'm going into dad fight with 324/325 hp
reset
swift inlet
Gigachad
latent moon
same
swift inlet
I'm gonna make it a habit to spam casts and summons in unseeded
Just to give myself the piece of mind that whatever comes next
raw herald
its too embarrassing to have that in a pb
swift inlet
I caused it
snow skiff
Also reset whenever you get a non menu than
raw herald
unironically yea
snow skiff
And whenever you miss a fountain in a stage
raw herald
i reset for 1:20/2:30/3:40/4:48
snow skiff
Is it leaderboard legal to pause in every room to look at the bigp document
raw herald
yes
latent moon
lmao i mean they're going for sub 10 with ME they just need good rng
raw herald
as long as you dont tab out
swift inlet
If she doesn't give me dash or ME
snow skiff
as long as you dont tab out
Ok so i can like pull it up on my phone
snow skiff
Thanks
swift inlet
I will turn her inside out
snow skiff
Strat
latent moon
dash is nearly guaranteed because of last core slot i think
latent moon
now get the dash
high island
Is it leaderboard legal to pause in every room to look at the bigp document
You can pause and go afk for 20 minutes or something lol.
snow skiff
As long as you just don't like cut the video yeah
raw herald
there was an old wr with a tea break at the start
signal aspen
im gonna submit a run where i take a 3 hour nap in the middle
raw herald
me too
snow skiff
Somebody should submit anyheat with like top 10 igt but 2 hour rta
swift inlet
The real question is
snow skiff
Its perfectly legal as long as you leave in all the footage right
raw herald
yep
swift inlet
snow skiff
Cheese
snow skiff
Nectar
swift inlet
Might get me a good hermes too
raw herald
nectar for hermes
snow skiff
Hermes rarity is important too
signal aspen
why arent you using ruthless reflex
raw herald
impending rarity doesnt matter at all
latent moon
oh my dumbass was gonna say take the 2 boons rarity upgrade for heroic doom lmao
but yeah hermes and impending are kinda important
snow skiff
impending rarity doesnt matter at all
Ur mom rarity 😹
swift inlet
Gottem
raw herald
joy cat5
latent moon
damn
swift inlet
fml
latent moon
nice
swift inlet
Aphro forced herself into my pool
snow skiff
L?
latent moon
get parting shot
latent moon
just leave the dash open for athena
get the aphrodite replace for the cast and get smair lmao
latent moon
yooooooooooo 450 gold
latent moon
fat impending?
swift inlet
Witches room time
high island
Don't evade the swear filter.
latent moon
should've just gotten it
raw herald
poopy
latent moon
yeah that happens
mental vale
you can make hades do that too
latent moon
not chaos for sure
mental vale
22, got offered hermes/charon/chaos
Take erebus gate
signal aspen
hermes
swift inlet
Hermes
latent moon
i'd do charon in hopes you see athena
signal aspen
sub6able
swift inlet
If you have a keepsake on past its first trigger
Does it at all help your chances for finding the god again
latent moon
you just get the increased rarity bonus but not the guaranteed next god
generally not worth it
swift inlet
What do I bring to elysium, just acorn?
latent moon
what's in the well
latent moon
i'd do hourglass because that can carry over to the well before styx
swift inlet
Spamming reroll without the dice just to pretend my rng manip does something
latent moon
based
rustic vale
I used to have problems with styx poison but that was before I discovered: Broken Spearpoint
signal aspen
broken pear point
latent moon
that's my favorite one
snow skiff
Gonna start pronouncing pear like spear
swift inlet
Gonna facetank as much as possible so zeus call helps me out lol
latent moon
based
high island
7:50 elysium 😳
That's not sub 7 pace, better reset.
swift inlet
I'm sorry I'm not cgull 😔
9:59.44 lol
He pulled 3 darknesses and I had a whole dash string where the nerves got me and I missed but that's fine
high island
Congratulations!
swift inlet
Many thanks
Beowulf went 40 seconds faster with significantly less stress but that's ok
Just beo things
snow skiff
He pulled 3 darknesses and I had a whole dash string where the nerves got me and...
Corngrats!
swift inlet
Thank you :D
raw herald
amaizeing job!
signal aspen
poggers
haughty latch
corn
latent moon
true
latent moon
thanks i guess
haughty latch
corngrats
cloud juniper
Well I just found out Xbox Game Pass removed Hades from its list and now I can’t play it
I haven’t played it in a while so I was gonna hop on and see how I’d do.
Does anyone know why Hades was removed from the list?
Of Game Pass purchaseable games?
hollow urchin
Does anyone know why Hades was removed from the list?
Not too sure of how the game pass works in regards to the developers and how they interact with the actual system involved but yes games get removed all the time from game pass and there could be hundreds of different reasons for why. Its like Netflix removing shows.
Treat gamepass more as a premium demo
swift inlet
Call spam build where your sole goal is to get smair
cloud juniper
Not too sure of how the game pass works in regards to the developers and how the...
Yeah I feel violated, now in order to get it I have to spend $25
Which isn’t ideal
tepid light
got curse of drowning again, on a weapon that doesn't suck with it
let's try this again
snow skiff
If you have a computer it goes on steam sale relatively often
cloud juniper
I mean I can wait till it goes on sale, but I don’t want to wait for so long ya know.
cloud juniper
I have one but I don’t think it’ll run it even, lol.
Ehh but it was free when I got it.
haughty latch
i dont think there'll be a sale for hades any time soon
maybe maybe it;ll, be on sale during the steam bash sale
signal aspen
there definitely will
haughty latch
but i kinda doubt it
snow skiff
definitely worth
Wtf???? No!!!! 🤬 You would have to give me money to get hades 👎
haughty latch
pls gift me hades
cloud juniper
So I’d rather have it free than spend money on it, but if I have to I can spend the money to get the game.
hollow urchin
Yeah I feel violated, now in order to get it I have to spend $25
I got hades for 15$ during asteam sale
pretty ideal
but again treat gamepass as a premium demo
use a site like "how long to beat" to see how long a game takes to beat and base what games you will play on stuff like that you might be able to fully finish a short story games
How long to beat says completionist Hades takes 100 hours to beat which i cant tell if thats actually accurate
i have 30 hours and don't feel anywhere near close to completion >_>
cloud juniper
But Hades was so different and so immaculate. I don’t think I’d fine any game like it.
I beat Hades almost 20 times when I stopped playing
I just didn’t play in a while and since I wouldn’t have school tomorrow I figured I’d do a run or two
hollow urchin
well if you truly love a game buy it full price from the devs to show support
cloud juniper
Ok I could do that
hollow urchin
i dont like subscription type things for that exact reason you dont actually own the game
cloud juniper
I also just didn’t know Game Pass removed games so often
high island
Well, it can't be helped. At least you're prepared for when something like that happens again.
cloud juniper
And like it was “free” so I thought “Cool, a free game!!! What a deal that is!” And also my friend told me about it one day and I remember she told me and I found it and fell in love with it.
swift inlet
Technically even with steam you don't own the game
They seem pretty good about it though, like only the worst stuff would get your account blasted
But other stores/devs? Dunno
snow skiff
This is why you buy physical copies of every game smh
swift inlet
Does hades have physical copies lmao
hollow urchin
I also just didn’t know Game Pass removed games so often
there is a spreadsheet people made that has a list of all the games that got removed/ are currently active/ and what games might get removed soon to counter this exact reason
snow skiff
Technically even with steam you don't own the game
I mean you shouldn't get your account full banned unless you were really an idiot
swift inlet
Well exactly
That's why most people don't mind steam
But like I said, other stores and devs can screw you
cloud juniper
there is a spreadsheet people made that has a list of all the games that got rem...
Oh wow! That’s good to know.
hollow urchin
Does hades have physical copies lmao
there is a switch version of it that is in chip form
swift inlet
Big
True pain isn't when you get your entire games library obliterated
True pain is when you're racing to start your next run, and medusa says hi to you but you dash past her in a blind rush
Then come back out to see that she's gone
tepid light
Alright, curse of drowning isn't too bad
I do wish the duration was longer, and it's a bit awkward to use it alongside ravenous will
But not too bad overall
mental vale
beo curse of drowning 💪
rustic vale
Hera curse of drowning
lean timber
cursiful end.
void vigil
Does hades have physical copies lmao
it does for every platform except for pc, since pc doesnt get physical copies that often anymore
or at all. i dont even know
austere loom
it's not unreasonable to hunt for 3 specific core boons from 3 different gods and 1 duo, right?
like in terms of testing luck
rustic vale
Not really
latent moon
Well since it's just 1 duo that's not too hard to do and pretty consistent
It's more of finding the exact third god you need because your God pool might fill up before then. Yeah you can force a fifth if needed but a bit sketchy
If you're lucky enough you might get 2 gods in tart and get the last in aspho but worst case scenario force them all in each region besides styx
latent moon
Sometimes it do be like that
just get all 9 gods and get a bigger bonus from family favorites than ps
rustic vale
just get all 9 gods and get a bigger bonus from family favorites than ps
10* you forgot bouldy
austere loom
is breaching cross the only pretty good fist hammer?
old belfry
explosive upper is 
latent moon
10* you forgot bouldy
There's only the 8 and Hermes tho
Unless you want hades call
Don't think chaos counts towards ff
rustic vale
is breaching cross the only pretty good fist hammer?
Explosive upper, breaching cross, draining upper, heavy knuckle
long knuckle on dem
latent moon
Why only dem
rustic vale
Explosive upper, breaching cross, draining upper, heavy knuckle
Draining on dem* whoops
Giess draining on gilga works as well
snow skiff
Rending claws actually pretty insane
rustic vale
long knuckle is ok on every aspect but I don’t think it’d be my first choice idk my brain might be bad
Rending claws
Kinetic launcher so you can powershot your dem special
swift inlet
Wrong, kinetic launcher so you can have range longer than a toddler's attention span
latent moon
long knuckle is ok on every aspect but I don’t think it’d be my first choice idk...
I mean a bit of range is nice esp for fists
lean timber
Wrong, kinetic launcher so you can have range longer than a toddler's attention ...
exploding upper:
strong ridge
lonk uckle
slate acorn
goddamnnn i cant wait for the steam deck to bea available here
beigm able to play hades in bed is ongnaw be amaizng
LIFE CHANGING
latent moon
it do be like that
rustic vale
You will die if you escape
latent moon
i have decided that shackle beo at 40 is too difficult because of skill issues
short glen
That's very valid tbh
latent moon
There's no damage output and the heroes/hades fight takes way too long
Not to mention hl3
I'd need good chaos rng for a bigger % cast damage
swift inlet
Man I love when chaos gives me entirely irrelevant boons despite me sacrificing my firstborn child and my entire mortgage to them
Backstab on eris 😩
faint flint
mint coral
Backstab on eris 😩
Why are you using shadow on eris tho 
wraith sand
to use backstab, duh 
austere loom
what if pierced butterfly gave bigger bonuses the higher you go?
and as a joke, gave +100%when you beat the final boss
rustic vale
Oh B explains a lot
I’m actually just bad tbh that run went really well
I dunno how but charon fight didn’t really extent my normal tart by that long
I’m just slow
hardy spear
i just stay behind him
rustic vale
?
hardy spear
try stay behind charon
mint coral
He just does the shockwave usually if you are near him anyways
rustic vale
I know how to fight charon
The question mark was why you brought that up
After I said fighting him didn’t add much time compared to my normal tartarus fjnish
Tartarus is definitely my slowest biome
snow skiff
styx is my slowest biome 😤
hardy spear
He just does the shockwave usually if you are near him anyways
yeah but that doesnt do any damage it just knocks you back and stuns
hardy spear
The question mark was why you brought that up
brain is mush my bad
signal aspen
yeah but that doesnt do any damage it just knocks you back and stuns
its still annoying and stops you from doing damage
mint coral
yeah but that doesnt do any damage it just knocks you back and stuns
Can lead into bonk
hardy spear
just run faster than he can send you to erebus
rustic vale
styx is my slowest biome 😤
5 sack everytime
rustic vale
also how is ely not your slowest biome
In terms of I can shave a lot of time off of my tart
hardy spear
my fastest ever tartarus was like 2:25 granted i havent done many speed attempts
rustic vale
My tarts are slow and I think the main part holding my runs back
elysium is still slow as well but it’s elysium
hardy spear
once i learnt to use meg on minibosses to pretty much instakill them i shaved of like 20-30 seconds
hardy spear
based
signal aspen
skelly best companion
snow skiff
skelly best companion
Fidi:
burnt zealot
I bonded with Charon first b
finite holly
i had a very funny run with the beyblade shield special
hardy spear
I bonded with Charon first b
same
finite holly
support fire and zeus boon go brrrrrr
tepid light
Why is sea storm such a good duo boon
I love this so much
Zeus shield with poseidon special, zeus legendary, jolted, flourish, and sea storm
hardy spear
poseidon special?
tepid light
yes
hardy spear
is that normal
tepid light
'normal' is kind of a weird term to use
given that it's all determined by what boons rng gives you
hardy spear
i mean like is that a typical zeus shield build idk much about zeus shield
tepid light
zeus shield works best with pos or zeus in my experience
because with poseidon, you'll be constantly knocking back enemies
hardy spear
just seems like pos special will keep knocking the enemies out of your damage
tepid light
just seems like pos special will keep knocking the enemies out of your damage
that's why you angle it so that they're trapped between a wall and your blitz disc
and on bosses it's hilarious
latent moon
i wasn't ready for super soaker shield today ngl
hardy spear
sprinkler shield
latent moon
will say tho it just seems like budget zeus flourish on it lmao
but i guses all super soaker builds are like that so fair enough
tepid light
i mean given the boons that i have as listed above
it basically comes to the same thing in the end
sea storm, jolted, ruptured, zeus legendary
hardy spear
zeus pos is always pretty cool
tepid light
yeah in general i love the combo
signal aspen
Poseidon special on Zeus shield is pretty bad tbh
tepid light
esp. on fists
signal aspen
Knocks enemies away
tepid light
see above
hardy spear
thats what i was thinking
signal aspen
And does nothing before sea storm
And plus sea storm bolts deal less damage than Zeus special bolts
hardy spear
see above
you cant always sandwich enemies against a wall youre just giving yourself extra work
latent moon
Poseidon special on Zeus shield is pretty bad tbh
and pos atk on luci is pretty bad and yet it's got a whole speedrun category
signal aspen
and pos atk on luci is pretty bad and yet it's got a whole speedrun category
Because it's funny
hardy spear
and pos atk on luci is pretty bad and yet it's got a whole speedrun category
yeah but super soaker
latent moon
it's just shield super soaker
tepid light
well whatever, i'm having fun and it's still quite effective from where i'm standing
snow skiff
and pos atk on luci is pretty bad and yet it's got a whole speedrun category
Technically it's the best build if you don't get triple bomb
hardy spear
luci appears to be lacking in builds
tepid light
dad dead
that was easy
dumping zeus shield on him while he's using beam is always fun
Also, got to the final part of skelly's story
that 'tell me' back and forth has me giggling like a small child
mint coral
luci appears to be lacking in builds
I mean if you are recommending builds you just say "build it like eris"
snow skiff
Dire lucifortune
signal aspen
Pretty good but you need triple bomb
hardy spear
mean
rustic vale
ill just simply get triple bomb c1
You have a really good chance of seeing triple bomb on lucifer
first or second hammer
hardy spear
luci only has like 9 hammers right?
rustic vale
yeah
And if you take concentrated beam or eternal chamber your second hammer options drop down to 7
hardy spear
what does conc beam do again
lean timber
it concentrates your beam
lean timber
(your beam damage ramps up 100% faster)
hardy spear
hmm i dont like the sound of it
i never use the ramping damage of the beam
the one that lets you start shooting quicker is cool
lean timber
yah
hardy spear
i only use the beam to detonate bombs or spin around in a styx mini rat room
fried rat
rustic vale
i never use the ramping damage of the beam
It makes full mag 540 damage instead of 375 iirc
latent moon
i never use the ramping damage of the beam
i mean free damage and increases chance of triple bomb so why not
high island
ill just simply get triple bomb c1
It's still fine without Triple Bomb, but Triple Bomb will make it a lot stronger, of course.
tepid light
Hey Nyaa I have a question for you
hardy spear
then ask the question
lean timber
he is thinking about it 💔
signal aspen
Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food?
tepid light
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
rustic vale
Mayhaps
tepid light
https://tenor.com/view/disney-descendants3-descendants-mal-ben-gif-15647362
My actual question, though:
How often do you get stupid catgirl jokes made at your expense
rich gulch
It really does feel like feudalism is going strong in the server when some users can post GIFs and images and others can't...
mint coral
gifs are embeds and everyone has embeds perms
hardy spear
its an intelligence based society
high island
You could ruin it for everyone and spam gifs theoretically lmao
Link spam will get you muted by the bot lol.
latent moon
Oh right
rich gulch
gifs are embeds and everyone has embeds perms <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Nope, I clearly "miss permissions" when it comes to sharing a link of any sort. I guess I don't count as everyone...
Perhaps I am...no one 👁️
rustic vale
or just am incorrect idk
signal aspen
you can definitely post a link
high island
The bot will remove your link messages if you post links too fast. But that will happen to anyone.
signal aspen
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7126.The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo?ref=nav_sb_ss...
POSTING LINKS IN THIS SERVER???????
rustic vale
just post media links for images
rich gulch
Yet links from Tenor don't seem to work.
high island
Can circumvent that by posting multiple links in one message btw.
rustic vale
just post media links for images
signal aspen
Yet links from Tenor don't seem to work.
rustic vale
I use discord image links
rich gulch
Why even live with these shackles? Even Sisyphus is living better than we are.
high island
high island
https://tenor.com/bsjWG.gif
That's a tenor link.
high island
Why even live with these shackles? Even Sisyphus is living better than we are.
He's not living. He's dead.
rich gulch
Tried it myself, but got ye olde Upload Failed "Missing Permissions".
rich gulch
He's not living. He's dead. <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Is what we're going through even worthy of being called life?
signal aspen
high island
Tried it myself, but got ye olde Upload Failed "Missing Permissions".
Yeah, well, uploads don't work. Whatever you clicked on was trying to upload a file rather than just pasting a link. If you copy and paste this link, it'll work just fine: https://tenor.com/bsjWG.gif
snow skiff
I got to heroes on hestia 56 with lightning strike
signal aspen
new hestia meta
rich gulch
Many thanks.
mental vale
Manual reload and then pump the rest of your clip 😁👍
congrats you've invented budget eris mk.ii
austere loom
what if Pierced Butterfly gave like 20-30% damage at the start of every stage and lost 5% every time you get hit?
snow skiff
Same problem probably
austere loom
it just feels so slow
snow skiff
I said before that if pierced butterfly gave its dmg unconditionally it would still suck
austere loom
like I tried it and got it to a decent numbe
but it just felt like a half decent run with Chaos giving me an attack boost
signal aspen
i feel like butterfly would be good if they did something with movement speed
like dealing more damage when you have more movement speed
so like lvl 1 would be like 50% of your movement speed becomes damage
and then lvl 3 would be 100%
snow skiff
That sounds good
Maybe that would fit lambent plume more though
Maybe butterfly should give your attacks a damage buff when you don't have a boon on it
snow skiff
What if it blocked some damage on the front but made you take more damage from behind
signal aspen
that would be pog
high island
People have fun trying Pierced Butterfly runs, I think it's fulfilling its purpose just fine.
bitter anvil
Pierced huh
spice hare
slate acorn
is thjere a channel for hades suggestions or should i just do it here ?
latent moon
i dont think the devs are taking any suggestions unless it's a literal game breaking bug
suggestions were mainly for early access iirc but since that's over, they're not likely to add anything
but you're welcome to put your ideas here regardless
acoustic bolt
i just lost a really good run because i was standing in lava while fishing
high island
They closed #hades-feedback a looooong time ago.
acoustic bolt
i figured i wouldn't take damage because it also pauses the timer while fishing
but nooooo that only makes sense
bitter anvil
So what happens when it uses a death defiance while fishing?
high island
If you want to send them feedback, they have a contact form on their website. But don't expect them to make any changes anymore at this point. But it still might be helpful for future games or if they do ever wanna do another patch (which I really don't expect).
latent moon
So what happens when it uses a death defiance while fishing?
i think you continue fishing lmao
but it goes through the death animation
bitter anvil
"Gah!" "Hey look, I caught a slavug!"
acoustic bolt
"Gah!" "Hey look, I caught a slavug!"
yep
that was an achilles run with +130% dash-strike damage from chaos, artemis strike, athena special/dash, flurry jab and lightning rod
it was beautiful
stupid inconsistent game
latent moon
this is why fishing is a scam
acoustic bolt
i had just killed lernie too 😦
bitter anvil
Once lost a really good run with stygius, my game crashed mid hades fight and it sent me straight back to the house as if that run never existed
latent moon
yeah it sometimes does that
i almost won a fresh file on my third run but i crashed right before i entered dad fight
bitter anvil
After that crash I just completely converted over to pc
My xbox can't handle hades for some reason
Crashes at about 15-20 minutes in
latent moon
huh that's weird
hearty bramble
i figured i wouldn't take damage because it also pauses the timer while fishing
I never knew you can die during fishing 🤣 I wanna see it now
latent moon
there were a ton of people playing hades on xbox when it was on gamepass and no one seemed to complain about that issue
rustic vale
Crashes at about 15-20 minutes in
I’m like your xbox then
bitter anvil
there were a ton of people playing hades on xbox when it was on gamepass and no ...
It's not on ganepass anymore. Rip.
rustic vale
I cannot sit through an entire 15-20 minute igt run
rustic vale
you would not like shackle beo at 40 heat then
what do you run instead of td3 for that
latent moon
yeah you restart for cshot
bitter anvil
Td3?
latent moon
tight deadline 3
rustic vale
tight deadline 3
bitter anvil
Never done a deadline anything
hearty bramble
My runs average 20-22 minutes
bitter anvil
What happens when a deadline reaches 0?
rustic vale
sub20 minutes on shackle beo sounds like a struggle you have no damage
bitter anvil
It just says "or else"
rustic vale
What happens when a deadline reaches 0?
Take 5 damage a second
latent moon
Never done a deadline anything
last punishment on the pact, td1 is pretty free and td2 is a bit of a squeeze if you're not prepared for it
bitter anvil
Yeesh
hearty bramble
What happens when a deadline reaches 0?
You start to slowly lose health
bitter anvil
5 a second seems a bit more than slowly
latent moon
sub20 minutes on shackle beo sounds like a struggle you have no damage
you can enter dad with like 5 minutes ish granted you get a 2 sack
end champs with about 2 minutes
rustic vale
td3 is pretty free if you aren’t doing something stupid
hearty bramble
well it could be faster ig haha
rustic vale
td3 is pretty free if you aren’t doing something stupid
Like shackle beo where you have no damage
latent moon
td3 is pretty free if you aren’t doing something stupid
td3 is pretty free if you dont have any js, cp, or dc
latent moon
Like shackle beo where you have no damage
bruh i said td3 is comfy boss fights just take forever
rustic vale
Cp2 my beloved
latent moon
2 boss fights
bitter anvil
What that
rustic vale
Anyways
bitter anvil
I've only ever used extreme measures up to 2 and jury summons
rustic vale
I just typed “I shackle” instead of “I shall” by muscle memory
hearty bramble
EM3 isn't too bad
latent moon
What that
cp is calisthenics program, every enemy 15% more hp per rank
which is one of the worst pacts in the game
unironically
bitter anvil
I'd imagine it is
latent moon
adding 5k hp per phase to dad heck yeah
rustic vale
Cp2 is free
hearty bramble
Yeah I don't use jury summons or cal program because I don't want to suffer that much
bitter anvil
Jury summons isn't that bad