#h1-discussion

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austere loom
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I presume Charged shot is bad on Beo?

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good thing I didn't take it

mint coral
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What about sudden/ferocious

warm nimbus
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and then spear kinda needs flurry jab for good dps

mint coral
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Or they are just ok for you

warm nimbus
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and same for sword and dedge

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although sword can do without it if you do ME

mint coral
warm nimbus
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its just that your dps in the beginning will be a bit lacking

mint coral
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You become hera but buggy basically

raw herald
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It’s broken

austere loom
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huh

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really

raw herald
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Yeah

austere loom
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we're talking about the one where it turns into a piercing shot

raw herald
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Yep

austere loom
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well that's something for next run

warm nimbus
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rail has the highest potential from hammers (clockets) but is still really good without it

austere loom
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been loving the rail recently

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such a good power spike with Eris/Hestia

warm nimbus
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and fists just has a lot of cool but very meh hammers

raw herald
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Charged shot beowulf takes the OP close ranged flare blast, and allows it to have range

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And it also does 80 damage by itself which is a lot

warm nimbus
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except for breaching which is the only boring fists hammer but its actually the best one

raw herald
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And it can go through shields and obstacles

mint coral
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And also 160 base dmg with a cast loaded kinda strong

austere loom
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does charged shot Beo cast at the point of contact or at the shield itself?

mint coral
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Then add a crit

warm nimbus
raw herald
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I’d say it’s better

warm nimbus
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maybe

raw herald
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Triple flurry hera is prob better too

warm nimbus
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i would not go that far lol

raw herald
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One has a 23s dad

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The other does not

austere loom
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how do the different flares differ from each other?

warm nimbus
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from just regular hera to triple flurry vs regular rail to clockets

mint coral
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Dmg/pom scaling/aoe

raw herald
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Damage, AOE

austere loom
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especially Ares' and Demeter's

mint coral
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How bugged they are

raw herald
mint coral
warm nimbus
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ares and dem sucj

mint coral
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Those dont exists

warm nimbus
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bottom 3 flares

karmic gulch
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Demeter sucks?

austere loom
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I was just wondering how they'd function

raw herald
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You don’t get a beam with Demeter

warm nimbus
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along with thunder flare

raw herald
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It’s just a blast

austere loom
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but yeah

raw herald
snow skiff
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Dem flare has no size no damage no scaling

austere loom
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flood flare got it

mint coral
karmic gulch
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I taught in General

raw herald
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Her actual cast is better than her flare

mint coral
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We are talking about the cast that is exclusive to hidden shield btw

raw herald
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And she does have some really nice boons

mint coral
snow skiff
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Eyebrows

raw herald
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Oops

snow skiff
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I saw that

raw herald
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That’s never happened to me before lol

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I see it all the time

snow skiff
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Rma's into older women

raw herald
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🗿bouldy

karmic gulch
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Can you Really say Milf when shes older than Hades? Its straight up a god Grandma

raw herald
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Ggilf

karmic gulch
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God Great Grandma

deft canyon
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When i saw the unlimited cape supply of hades i died of laughter lol

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Cause that proves exactly what Zagreus said

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He only has capes to dramatically burn them.

austere loom
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what's Hermes' Stygian soul legendary?

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is that any good

snow skiff
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Its basically perma boiling blood

austere loom
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huh

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isn't that kinda busted if you somehow get it?

snow skiff
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Its supposed to only apply to your cast but it applies to all damage

austere loom
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but most cast builds use Infernal soul, right?

snow skiff
austere loom
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hs rd?

raw herald
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Hyper sprint and rush delivery

austere loom
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ah

mint coral
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Boiling blood is only atk/special

karmic gulch
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Aphrodite's married? 😩

lean timber
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technically not technically

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what do we think boys, grind 50 at work on my break for fun

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or do my work like a good little drone

snow skiff
sturdy steppe
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hello im new here

latent moon
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Hi new here

sturdy steppe
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i main the adamant rail

lean timber
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nice what's your heat

karmic gulch
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I cant for the life of me beat Theseus with the Now

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Now

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BOW

stone holly
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Not me on run 57 still unable to complete Aphrodites boons 😭 I swear she's ghosting me

pastel monolith
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took me over 50 runs to even beat hades

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so ur probably doin fine lol

mental vale
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Blown kiss bouldy

pastel monolith
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i find blown kiss sucks with hera it serms to miss and like hit behind them

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i guess i have to adjust and fire earlier maybe

high island
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Best boon in the game.

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Undershoot your arrows so your Cast is the first thing that hits to get all of that bonus damage.

lean timber
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they say it's got a weird hitbox

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(i do not think it does)

wraith sand
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the bosses in this game are kinda hard, but still predictable enough

latent moon
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Once bull is down the shield is annoying but you can get 2 shots off after each spear throw

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And for his god call honestly just pray it's not Demeter and play slower if needed

humble acorn
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hera bow with artemis cast heart rend (yes I know it's not good but it's easy to set up) is how I beat hades for the first time on hell mode

wraith sand
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got it once

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was the same deal as the others imo

mint coral
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It closes a lot of AoE compared to others

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Is annoying

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But the real solution is just get dem on your god pool

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So Theseus cant call her

split wedge
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agreed i always avoid fighting demeter in double boon rooms lol

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i don't rly like dem boons tho... maybe im not using them right >.>

latent moon
mint coral
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Good alternate picks if rarity is decent but not much

split wedge
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ok yeah cuz chill isn't that appealing of a debuff to me

wraith sand
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It does make it a bit easier if you are a bit lousy with the dash timings

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like me cough

mint coral
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Sometimes it can be bad tbh

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Specially if you have the muscle memory for higher speeds

wraith sand
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Yeah, that's an issue too

split wedge
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i do find clarity meme beams pretty funny with arthur tho

karmic gulch
split wedge
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turn on my special, sit back and lazy dodge while everything else gets melted

latent moon
mint coral
latent moon
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2 shots after every spear throw

mint coral
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You can also bait the spin attack

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And dash through him

latent moon
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Yep

mint coral
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You can save your call for Theseus god call

karmic gulch
mint coral
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He cant block so free dmg

karmic gulch
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Clapped theseus ass with the Rail gun tho

latent moon
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Bow has piercing shot right you could just get that hammer lol

mint coral
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Bow only pierces enemies

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There is piercing volley

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Which is special only

latent moon
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Does it not have a hammer that lets normal shots pierce shields

mint coral
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No

latent moon
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Damn I've been scammed

mint coral
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Outside of the shield btw
What was your build for theseus

karmic gulch
mint coral
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Low dps will always suck

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And yeah rail is fun

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What aspect you were using

wraith sand
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Rail is sooooo annoying for me

karmic gulch
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The 2nd one, the one with the Lock on When using the Special

mint coral
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Eris zagluv

mint coral
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Oh wait thougjt that was rail lmao

karmic gulch
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Also spected Heavly into drugging the normal Attack

mint coral
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What lvl was chiron?

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It can be eh at low

karmic gulch
latent moon
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with chiron, i think you can get 1 special off before he turns for the shield

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maybe 2? i haven't played chiron without fo2 before so not sure

mint coral
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What special you had? Or you played like zag bow

karmic gulch
split wedge
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use your keepsake to force arty on special

karmic gulch
mint coral
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Ik is chiron

latent moon
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you can play chiron like zag bow if you ignore the special lol

mint coral
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But playing the other aspects like bad zag bow is a thing

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Well you cant play hidden bow like bad zag bow but still

karmic gulch
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admiteddly i did kinda play like that and Neglected the special

mint coral
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What attack you had then?

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Also how many arrows is chiron lv2-3

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I wouldnt force artemis depending on the amount

karmic gulch
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5 at lv 2 and 6 at 3 irc

latent moon
split wedge
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for chiron if you want bigger dps: arty on special, aphro on attack, try to get heart rend duo. could just be a problem with your dps output

karmic gulch
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Rend duo?

mint coral
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Arte-aphro

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Another ez build is dio special + aphro attack and aim for their duo

split wedge
karmic gulch
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Ah i see

wraith sand
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Arty special on Chiron?

karmic gulch
wraith sand
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I always tried to go Hangover

mint coral
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Hangover is very safe too

karmic gulch
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Ironcially enough it was the one with Quicker Charge time and SLOWER, both with DMG boosts

mint coral
split wedge
latent moon
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i thought the dio was the best for chiron have i been scammed

wraith sand
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But I am not touching bow for now

mint coral
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Also arty scales so well with conc volley

wraith sand
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Zeus shield is too fun

mint coral
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  • chaos boons
wraith sand
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and also want to try out Guan Yu

karmic gulch
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Zeus Shield is Very fun but Once again Theseus and Bull Homie body me failbag

mint coral
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Gy is fun

jade pebble
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I wish they sold the underworld map as a poster

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i found images of it but dont know how to go about printing it in the future

karmic gulch
wraith sand
mint coral
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Bow is a melee aspect

karmic gulch
mint coral
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Also what is charging shot

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Perfect shot?

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Wait no i assume quick is flurry

split wedge
# karmic gulch Zeus Shield is Very fun but Once again Theseus and Bull Homie body me <:failbag:...

i was stuck on them for a long time too, but now i can kill both pretty fast with any weapon. i think major things are this: a) are you building correctly and do you have enough dps. for me this was the biggest issue cuz i was mostly dashing correctly but it was taking so long that i would make mistakes and die before i could kill them. to fix this you just gotta learn what builds work for each weapon. b) are you dodging correctly in order to maximize dps. for ex for asterius i used to run away from him to dodge but actually when he does that thing where he leaps in the air and lands on the ground you should dodge through him so you're behind him, and then free dmg on him for a few seconds and rise and repeat. for theseus really try to maximize as much dps in the time that his back is turned to you after he throws the spear. aka dash immediately to him rly fast when the spear misses. eventually as you get better you can also dash through his spin attack and also occasionally just walk behind him lmao

karmic gulch
mint coral
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Ah explosive and i cant figure the other one

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There isnt a charge shots faster

latent moon
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isn't the 150% damage from perfect shot hammer

mint coral
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One makes more dmg at nesr distance and other makes.power shots easier and do +150% dmg

mint coral
latent moon
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ah

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well neither charge faster lmao

karmic gulch
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I think

mint coral
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An ez way to get into builds is heavy attack = % boons
Low but quick = flat dmg

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Chiron can do hangover too due to ez stacks, but other flat dmg arent that good

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Then if you know what boon start look at the codex if you have the upgrade to see what boons synergize

latent moon
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chiron can't do zeus special because of stinky internal cooldowns

mint coral
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And doom is more of a meme

karmic gulch
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I quess its better than nothing

latent moon
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if you get early dire misfortune on chiron then it might be more viable lmao but that's never a guarantee

mint coral
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The best wah to build smth you dont know how to play is just use tidal dash

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Just grab it, add some poms and things like shoals/breaking wave an ez

karmic gulch
latent moon
wraith sand
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One thing about hangover

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Do I always go Ares duo boon?

mint coral
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I think low tol is better

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But at least CoN have the benefit of using curse of vengeance

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So i dont need to put doom in my cores lol

latent moon
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how does one do math to calculate this lmao

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say hangover does 6 damage per tick, low tol stacks 8 so ticks 16 times, 6*16?

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con hits every .35 and normally stacks at 5, so ticks 14 times?

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i am very good at math

snow skiff
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Curse ticks 30% more often, low tol gives 60% more stacks at max

raw herald
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43% more often

high island
loud citrus
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Hey

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New here

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
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low tolerance is slightly better until you realize that means you need all 8 arrows to hit which doesnt always happen

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id rate them about evenly except you can use curse of vengenace which is why you do aphro attack

mint coral
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Got the same answer from Cgull lol

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And rman

warm nimbus
high island
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Low Tolerance better.

mint coral
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Cuz its aphro?

high island
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until you realize that means you need all 8 arrows to hit which doesnt always happen
Git gud. squirtnya

snow skiff
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Does curse of vengeance open longing and drowning

high island
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In practice, you'll often do two volleys anyway on any enemy where it matters.

snow skiff
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Just ignore the volley and play bad zagbow

warm nimbus
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hmm

warm nimbus
mint coral
warm nimbus
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wait it opens cod?

mint coral
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Wait fr

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Lol

warm nimbus
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does it actually

mint coral
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Thought you checked the codex

warm nimbus
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no

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i was asking a question

high island
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No.

snow skiff
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Huh

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Kinda weird that it only opens nausea

high island
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And Vengeful Mood.

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Also opens up Impending Doom but not Dire Misfortune.

lean timber
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impending misfortune

high island
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Dire Doom.

humble acorn
lean timber
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spice is nice but not at heat

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unfortunately

timber fox
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What have the devs said about the topic of Dlcs?

icy knoll
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check the very first pinned post

latent moon
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dlcs extremely unlikely, they believe the game is completely finished story wise and there's nothing to add

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tldr basically

timber fox
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They're not wrong

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Its a masterpiece experience

latent moon
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something about early access basically being the dlc or something i dont exactly remember i'm pretty sure they mentioned early access somewhere in their response

timber fox
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But the setting and gameplay is so cool

latent moon
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might be wrong on that last one tho

formal sinew
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I would have liked to see Daedalus

timber fox
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Characters are so rich

formal sinew
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But otherwise it's perfect rn

timber fox
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Lot of investment in them

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So we wanna see more

opaque peak
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I have a question:
Does the boons stats upgrade stacks with each other, or multiply?
for example, basic crit damage are 200%, and I have an item that adds +30% to crit dmgs, so the final crits damages are 230% or 200% * 30% ?

patent mesa
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almost all are additive

signal aspen
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they are additive

patent mesa
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so in that case 230

latent moon
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the only thing that's multiplicative is speed i believe

strong ridge
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its often better to end something than drag it out

if sgs feels satisfied with it then thats that

i wouldnt mind them fixing bugs but alas

opaque peak
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ok, thanks!

patent mesa
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and trap damage for some reason lol

latent moon
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lmfao please no bug fixes

patent mesa
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I 100% would've liked a qol update

strong ridge
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dont even "fix" it just display the right numbers

patent mesa
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because game has a lot of qol issues

latent moon
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bugwulf is nice and dandy where it is

mint coral
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I also wanna keep clockets

strong ridge
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i like bugwulf too

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but without goin on boards you dont even know abt the bugwulf

lean timber
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message boards

signal aspen
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aight

latent moon
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@mint coral run 3 after reaching the surface on run 2, still gives hammer and got charged shot with mod
although the hammer gave 3 options instead of the normal 1

mint coral
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Nice

latent moon
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i'm assuming demeter is gonna show up on run4

mint coral
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What run calls become available again

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5?

latent moon
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no clue

latent moon
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bruhhh my game crashed as soon as i got a 2 sack

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was about to walk into dad fight with 300+ hp cshot bouldy

signal aspen
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skill issue

mint coral
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Modded issue

latent moon
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im' actually sad that would've been a clear

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also well within td3 time lol

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tdash and epic athena atk

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with jerky going into dad

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common aphro atk bouldy

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pain

latent moon
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weird

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i'm not gonna take her

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but

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she's there

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actually i have to lmao 97 gold moment

strong ridge
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u reach surface run 2?

tepid light
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why does charged shot do double the damage of the regular bull rush

signal aspen
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because funny

tepid light
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i was confused as to why that upgrade is loved so much, so i looked at the numbers

mint coral
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Why not

tepid light
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that's ridiculous

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no wonder it's so good

warm nimbus
tepid light
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i remember getting charged shot on beowulf once

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no wonder it did so much damage, in retrospect

signal aspen
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charged shot can do some damage

tepid light
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just a bit, yes

vast folio
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hypnos is a cutie

patent mesa
warm nimbus
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yeah even on run 1 its easy

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ff dad fight is really hard though

snow skiff
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Ff strat where you suicide until hermes

strong ridge
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thx tho

latent moon
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Managed to get to first phase of invincibility for dad before dying

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Fo0 dad slapped me three times for 40 each

strong ridge
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f

latent moon
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I mean I don't think I would've won in the long run solely because my arrows were hitting for like 80 damage

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Crits were nice but also still would take forever

latent moon
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Champs fight took forever

latent moon
warm nimbus
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why would you do bow before run 3 lmao

latent moon
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But also I didnt want to play sword knowing that I had a Zeus guaranteed next run

latent moon
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Because I don't like sword

warm nimbus
latent moon
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I doubt I would've reached surface with sword

warm nimbus
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youd be surprised how easy it is

latent moon
dusky solar
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sword was my favorite for a while but jesus past asphodel it does NO damage

warm nimbus
latent moon
dusky solar
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bruhhhhhh

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of course its maimed

dusky solar
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this is me picking up last nights run

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asp of hades

latent moon
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I'd take it and just special spam

warm nimbus
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lol same tbh

latent moon
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If you lose a DD you get one back lmao

warm nimbus
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or just take the top one

dusky solar
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i took addled shot because i feel i dont need the DD

latent moon
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And you can just buy back the one you lost

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Welp

dusky solar
warm nimbus
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oh you were on td0

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really couldve just taken it lol

dusky solar
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yeah lol

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i think ill try TD1 soon?

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ive been averaging 28

warm nimbus
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yeah you could easily make it then lol

dusky solar
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but i do sometimes get 40s

warm nimbus
dusky solar
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oh shut it you

warm nimbus
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lmao

dusky solar
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you know what i mean

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mirage shot with zeus cast is so fun wth

warm nimbus
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try with pos cast and beaver in styx lol

dusky solar
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that literally what i had two runs ago, remember when i said "how did i just kill a satyr through its dc with just a tidal dash"

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OOOOOOOO epic wave pounding with tidal strike YES PLEASE

warm nimbus
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still less damage than epic aphro attack

dusky solar
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yeah yeah, whatever

brisk trail
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Hades is the most addicting game I have ever played

mint coral
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Im finally forced to remap dash ti a shoulder button

hardy spear
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is thay a normal thing to do

mint coral
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A lot of people do from what i've noticed

hardy spear
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most of my binds are the same as default except reload is onbthe left stick and cast is right bumper

mint coral
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Im doing it cuz my B button is broken

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And doesnt register most of the time

hardy spear
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hm

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maybe ill bind dash to left bumper

dusky solar
mint coral
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Ah yes kbm on the switch

signal aspen
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Kbm supremacy

hardy spear
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this is oppression

mint coral
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Ok worstlos sucks

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Screw fists im doing 32 spears first

signal aspen
signal aspen
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What does champ mean

dusky solar
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cthonic champion

signal aspen
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Oh

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I have that on shift

dusky solar
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and yes, i do have an entire numpad on my mouse

signal aspen
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I feel like with a mouse like that you might misclick often

dusky solar
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i actually dont at all

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the buttons are very distinctly tactile

signal aspen
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I would bouldy

dusky solar
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normally when i show people my mouse they say something along the lines of "what the f*** is that thing"

warm nimbus
hardy spear
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that a chunky mouse

dusky solar
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because pressing, for example, Q, means i cant move to the left while im doing so

hardy spear
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what about your pinky finger

dusky solar
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my shift key is sticky and my pinky isnt very strong so spamming shift hurts a lot

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meanwhile my mouse has small buttons that can easily be pressed in tandem with m1, m2, space, or even eachother with no difficulties spamming or otherwise

raw herald
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I can only play beowulf on kbm

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Disclaimer: I have never actually tried anything else

warm nimbus
dusky solar
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well i relegate my numbers to binds typically only used one at a time. one such example is i typically have 1, 2, and 3 set to primary weapon, secondary weapon, and melee respectively in fps games

warm nimbus
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oh i forgot fps games exist

dusky solar
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in ULTRAKILL, i have 1 on punch, 2 on dash, 3 on pistol, 4 on shotgun, 5 on nailgun, and 6 on railgun

warm nimbus
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whats ultrakill

dusky solar
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funny boomer shooter style game that has way more complicated interactions than it has any right to and its amazing

signal aspen
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What do you think of my binds

raw herald
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i use dash at cursor

warm nimbus
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ig now that i think about it all of the precision games i play are keyboard only

signal aspen
dusky solar
warm nimbus
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tbh i really like keyboard only games lol

dusky solar
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i didnt even need a DD for hades hell yeah

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broken spearpoint op

patent mesa
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based

dusky solar
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DANGIT i always get trout and never bass

warm nimbus
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spearpoint ew

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is trout diamond?

signal aspen
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Ye

warm nimbus
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rip

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try getting a perfect catch smh

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also what were the devs thinking with making legendary fish 5%

dusky solar
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its not about the timing is it?

warm nimbus
dusky solar
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WHAT

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ive been tricked

warm nimbus
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faster than 333ms its 50/50 between legendary and rare

dusky solar
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this is blasphemy

warm nimbus
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slower and its 50/50 between common and rare

warm nimbus
signal aspen
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Wait really

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That's nice

warm nimbus
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yeah

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if it was 5% bouldy

signal aspen
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Nah I think that's just talking about Medusa

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Because

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Medusa

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Dusa

quiet lily
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Maid Dusa, Medusa

dusky solar
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well yeah but

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thats still very much

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a

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yknow

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as a trans person i REALLY relate to it

latent moon
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That's kinda funny actually

dusky solar
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"the past me... it wasnt even me" is something that as a trans person i HEAVILY RELATE TO

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alright

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what should i do next?

quiet lily
#

Do you have a fuly upgraded Broken Shackle keepsake?

#

3 stars?

dusky solar
#

mhm but i have other keepsakes im still working on

quiet lily
#

Which ones?

dusky solar
#

hold a moment

wraith sand
#

man, trying out guan yu for the first time

wraith sand
#

and GODS does it feel good

dusky solar
#

guan yu is so fun!

quiet lily
#

Guan Yu is divisive to say the least.

dusky solar
#

mmm

wraith sand
#

just makes me go MMMMMMMM

dusky solar
#

sounds good to me

#

hows this? (i wanna practice FO2 early)

raw herald
#

Fin

dusky solar
#

maybe i swap ep for lc1 and cf1?

#

ima do that

#

bp not ep

latent moon
warm nimbus
dusky solar
#

YES i got epic thunder flourish

latent moon
#

Why would you start flourish with Rama then

warm nimbus
dusky solar
#

i already did too late

warm nimbus
#

oh you already did lol

#

i was going to say do like dc2 or smth lol

warm nimbus
#

and then you just take epic athena/dem/aphro or arty attack when you see it

latent moon
#

Oh that's true I guess

warm nimbus
#

rama speedruns start special i think?

#

yep

latent moon
#

I guess a 97% bonus to your atk is overkill for tart lmao

warm nimbus
#

yep

dusky solar
latent moon
#

When you really gotta make sure the numbskull is dead, take epic aphro start on rama

latent moon
warm nimbus
#

yoooo thats amazing

#

now go for zeus call and smair

dusky solar
#

truly

#

OHHH

#

T DASH

#

the god run

latent moon
#

Now don't lose bouldy

signal aspen
#

Mono dash rama is interesting

dusky solar
#

no guarantees its my first time on FO2

latent moon
#

That bonus damage from ruthless is gonna be so unnecessary lmfao

warm nimbus
snow skiff
#

Hunter dash rama goes crazy

latent moon
#

She has budget hunters dash with ruthless reflex already

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

RR rama let's gooooo

warm nimbus
latent moon
signal aspen
dusky solar
latent moon
#

Nice

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

Yeah do mirror roo

warm nimbus
dusky solar
#

MM

#

SWEET SURRENDER

#

the ACTUAL blessed run

latent moon
#

Discording your run is a curse that many have suffered from

signal aspen
#

If it's blessed then where is meme beams

latent moon
#

true

warm nimbus
#

im honestly surprised by how much my aim improves when i singletap

#

anyways back to the sub6 grind

dusky solar
#

repulse shot or perfect shot?

snow skiff
signal aspen
dusky solar
#

oki

signal aspen
#

Hopefully the other option wasn't twin or triple 🗿

dusky solar
#

the triple spread was there

#

okay

#

which one of you said to sell tidal for hunters dash?

#

im giving you a promotion

signal aspen
#

I said that

#

Ty

dusky solar
#

greater evasion too, what is this run

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
dusky solar
#

hmmmmm

#

do i...

#

take pom blossom?

#

all of my boons are goated rn

signal aspen
#

Probably not

dusky solar
#

nah like literally no matter which boon gets the poms it will be great for me

#

ill do it for elysium then pick up spearhead for styx i think

warm nimbus
#

would be better to take like acorn in ely

dusky solar
#

thats fair but its too late now

warm nimbus
#

you are only going to get 1, maybe 2 poms from it in ely

dusky solar
#

ely is typically around 10 rooms, thats DEFINETELY 2 poms, maybe three. mom pom is one every 4.

#

sweet nectar, dont mind if i do

warm nimbus
#

and thats if you dont get midshop

latent moon
#

if you get a fountain or chaos then you only get 1 lmao

warm nimbus
#

if you get midshop and then either fountain/patty/chaos its only 7

#

you get midshop like 90% of the time in ely and its reasonably common for any of the other 3 to show up

dusky solar
#

WHOAH FO2 BULL IS FAST OH GOD I PISSED MYSELF

brisk trail
#

zaggrin hello people

dusky solar
#

oh my GOD thank goodness for RR dodge chance

warm nimbus
#

which is so stupid

dusky solar
#

well it specifies found poms, not passively gained poms

patent mesa
#

pom ely isn't a bad idea if you're 100% confident you won't need defensive keepsake

#

but in that case it's generally preferable to slap on the hourglass and have a good time spamming well items

dusky solar
#

well i thought i didnt need defensive keepsake but uhh, i may be stupid for not realising i might need it for my first time on FO2

warm nimbus
#

hourglass is just way better

dusky solar
#

first time on FO anything actually

#

but i went straight to 2

warm nimbus
#

insane you got this far with rr rama

dusky solar
#

im at 7 hp and 3dds left

dusky solar
warm nimbus
#

yes it is lmao

latent moon
#

rama needs space to get shots off, esp on fo2

#

double dash helps a lot with that

dusky solar
#

oh i can purge sweet nectar for 400, worth it or...

#

hmm

warm nimbus
#

depends

#

this is into styx?

dusky solar
#

likely only a handful more poms left, im almost at ely boss

warm nimbus
#

oh

dusky solar
#

like one more room til

warm nimbus
#

how many poms on your attack lol

dusky solar
#

lemme just show you my boons

warm nimbus
#

perfect point blank not bad

tepid light
#

trying hades spear again

#

let's see how this goes

warm nimbus
#

couldve been triple point blank lmao

dusky solar
#

hades spear is fun!

dusky solar
dusky solar
#

okay

warm nimbus
#

can just buy everything in styx shop

dusky solar
#

swift strike!!!! just what i needed

patent mesa
#

rip

warm nimbus
#

if you had taken hourglass into ely instead of mom pom you could be just buying 5 bajillion items from wells and rerolling wells rn

warm nimbus
#

sadly

dusky solar
dusky solar
#

ill go to patty for the DD recover

warm nimbus
dusky solar
#

okay i JUST realised i have 155 max hp rn

warm nimbus
#

or hydralite, maybe

dusky solar
#

hmm...

warm nimbus
#

60% attack damage pretty good

tepid light
#

i think getting a dd back is a lot more important than a temporary attack bonus

#

but maybe that's just me

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
strong ridge
tepid light
strong ridge
warm nimbus
#

also hydralite gold is better than 1 dd a lot of the time anyways

strong ridge
#

thats the reasoning for taking jerky over dd

#

more damages = more betters

tepid light
#

pbs?

warm nimbus
#

pb = personal best

warm nimbus
#

ehh idk

strong ridge
warm nimbus
#

this is rama were talking about, ridiculous attack scaling can get up to the point of instaphasing bosses

#

even for survivability its somewhat reasonable to take jerky

tepid light
strong ridge
tepid light
#

actually yeah if this is regular dad and you have rama (and, by the looks of it, lvl 4 aphro attack?), i can see why you'd take the damage bonus over the dd

#

i'm always looking at things from the em4 perspective, which is probably a mistake on my part

latent moon
#

it's her first time on fo2 dad tho

#

so that might be rough

tepid light
#

oh

dusky solar
#

fated persuasion scored me an extra DD, lets go

tepid light
#

ayyyy

#

how many dd's you have now

dusky solar
#

just 2

#

lost a lot in ely boss

tepid light
#

for me that would be more than enough, but i obviously can't speak from your perspective

#

hope it goes well, either way

strong ridge
#

2 dd is doabkle

#

belif

warm nimbus
#

good luck with fo2 dad lmao

dusky solar
#

i can oft beat hades with 0-1 DDs, but this time i have less than 200 max hp (ive never even had that little entering elysium and first time on FO anything, and im doing FO2

strong ridge
#

win time

dusky solar
#

okay i have EXACTLY 200 hp

#

18 mins till auto loss

mint coral
#

You dont instant die with td

#

You start taking 5 dmg per second

dusky solar
#

really?

#

oh

#

thats a lot

hardy spear
#

just go fast

dusky solar
#

so its not the end of the world

tepid light
#

i always did wonder what the penalty is if you fail td

dusky solar
#

so glad i took hydraulic might going into styx!

mint coral
#

It only works on the end tunnels

high island
# dusky solar ive been averaging 28

More than good enough for TD2. There's plenty of moments where you can easily save time where you aren't now because you don't need to. Like when you're considering the exits or what to buy in Charon's Shop, you can just pause the game to pause the timer while you're thinking.

warm nimbus
#

if you have 300 hp thats a whole minute of time

hardy spear
#

as long as you dont get hit at all

strong ridge
#

big if, that

hardy spear
#

and also a minute is not very long if youre not used to going fast

dusky solar
#

alright

#

2DD, 200/200 hp

#

hades time

strong ridge
#

ezpz

mint coral
#

Ez

strong ridge
#

lmnpz

dusky solar
#

okay, i timed that hades sweep just fine with FO2 RR

#

lets see how the rest of this goes

strong ridge
#

fo2 RR brave

dusky solar
#

okay

#

this is going far poorly

hardy spear
#

its probably bad that my dad fight tactic is pretty much kill him before he can kill me

hardy spear
#

good enough for 32 heat apparently

dusky solar
#

ah

#

i got hit by like every shockwave and died

dusky solar
#

that was good though, that was good

#

if i had my usual amount of health that mightve succeeded

strong ridge
hardy spear
dusky solar
#

but hades summoned the grabbers and the invincibility crystals and i couldnt kill them fast enough

dusky solar
hardy spear
#

oh i just ignore those most of the time

strong ridge
dusky solar
#

YOU LITERALLY CANT IGNORE THEM THEY MAKE HADES INVINCIBLE

hardy spear
strong ridge
#

use tactic of patience

snow skiff
#

Just ignore them until they stop immunizing hades

#

Easy

strong ridge
hardy spear
#

what gr

dusky solar
#

GR is a crutch and youll never convince me otherwise

latent moon
warm nimbus
#

dude omg razor shoals actually did something for once

dusky solar
#

it always does something???

latent moon
#

it's a generally useless boon lol

dusky solar
#

hey what aspect should i use next

strong ridge
#

ydy tho

mint coral
#

Also who cares if its a crutch

#

Is good

hardy spear
#

wait is gr greater reflex theres no way youre using ruthless reflex

dusky solar
warm nimbus
mint coral
#

Is 50%

dusky solar
patent mesa
#

is this shoals slander

strong ridge
warm nimbus
#

but in this case a wavemaker was barely alive after my cast hit it

dusky solar
mint coral
#

I barely use ruthless and remember that

hardy spear
warm nimbus
#

and it jumped across the room and died of shoals

warm nimbus
#

it was rather beautiful

latent moon
hardy spear
#

epic embed fail

latent moon
#

thanks discord

patent mesa
#

shoals is cracked, get this slander out of here

dusky solar
latent moon
hardy spear
#

crazy

dusky solar
patent mesa
#

also greatest reflex is cracked, ruthless reflex is one of the worst mirror perks in the game

latent moon
#

i just want to share that modded did not give me the hammer it was supposed to

dusky solar
#

alright which aspect am i doing next folks

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

on fresh file

warm nimbus
#

persuasion is also a crutch

#

you arent playing the game the right way unless you arent allowed to reroll things

patent mesa
#

persuasion is a crutch, it gives you the boons you want

latent moon
#

got breaching rush, dread flight, and empowering shot on shield very cool mod

strong ridge
warm nimbus
#

dark foresight is also a crutch, it gives you better builds

hardy spear
#

not using ri4 is a crutch

patent mesa
#

@latent moon did you quit and re-enter game

warm nimbus
#

thats not playing the game the real way

latent moon
#

nope

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

should i

patent mesa
#

wack

patent mesa
#

that's usually the source of guaranteed hammer failing

warm nimbus
#

also you shouldnt be using aspects, those make the game easier

patent mesa
#

based

latent moon
strong ridge
dusky solar
#

someone just name a random aspect preferably not meta

hardy spear
#

moving isnt necessary it clearly wasnt intended by the devs

warm nimbus
#

keepsakes are also a crutch because your build should just actually be completely random

patent mesa
dusky solar
latent moon
warm nimbus
dusky solar
hardy spear
# warm nimbus what

dont worry they wont be able to catch up to you while using ruthless reflex

warm nimbus
#

in fact fresh file is the only way to play the game without a crutch

#

youre only a real gamer if you never unlock anything

warm nimbus
#

also boons are actually crutches too

#

you shouldnt be able to get outside support

#

thats cheating

signal aspen
snow skiff
#

Lvl 0 zag sword is the only way to play the game

#

RI4

#

not using 64 heat is a crutch

raw herald
#

Using buttons is a crutch

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

Playing hades is a crutch

raw herald
#

What keepsake should I change my tag to

hardy spear
#

skull earring

warm nimbus
signal aspen
raw herald
#

How to I copy the corner thing

warm nimbus
#

copy it from someone elses name

#

thats how i did it

raw herald
#

I did that but then it just copied aoeui

snow skiff
#

^

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

『distant memory best keepsake』

raw herald
#

Yes

signal aspen
#

Here is a template

warm nimbus
#

youre a gamer aoeiu

snow skiff
mint coral
#

Whats that

warm nimbus
#

somenoob change your name too

mint coral
#

The funny keepsakes are already taken

signal aspen
warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

Do it quick

snow skiff
#

There aren't actually that many outrageously bad keepsakes

mint coral
#

Force me

signal aspen
snow skiff
#

I lied all keepsakes suck because they're in hades

hardy spear
#

real

warm nimbus
mint coral
#

Egg is best one cuz it made Chaos laugh at dad dying

signal aspen
#

Spear point isn't outrageously bad

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

It has some uses

snow skiff
#

Spearpoint is good

warm nimbus
#

what are the uses

hardy spear
warm nimbus
#

bballs?

signal aspen
#

Em4

warm nimbus
#

aaaand thats it

signal aspen
#

Can be pretty good for that

warm nimbus
#

and even then its worse than tooth

signal aspen
#

I like taking spear point in tart

snow skiff
#

Ok what if you ate a tooth in asphodel already

signal aspen
#

Especially when you are running hl5 bp2 fo2

#

Witches and numbskulls are scary

warm nimbus
#

save that for dad

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

spearpoint has to be one of the most overrated keepsakes by the good players in this server

raw herald
#

hi

warm nimbus
#

it honestly is awful

warm nimbus
signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

you suck

raw herald
#

True

snow skiff
#

Zeus boons kinda suck

raw herald
#

yuo suck!

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

i think im about to get a really good aspho leave

signal aspen
#

Checkmate

snow skiff
#

My phone tried to autocorrect boons to blons

raw herald
latent moon
#

if i get rush delivery on my second hermes this run i'm deleting this save file

signal aspen
#

Run died

snow skiff
#

I'm your biggest fan

signal aspen
#

Bruh who is that

latent moon
warm nimbus
#

WAIT WTF

hardy spear
#

no wau it's tree

warm nimbus
#

I JUST GOT MIDBOSS SKIP

signal aspen
#

Yo sup Tree69420

warm nimbus
#

I JUST GOT ASPHO MIDBOSS SKIP

#

NO WAY

signal aspen
latent moon
#

do i keep my word of deleting the save file or actually keep going

signal aspen
#

Keep going

strong ridge
#

go

latent moon
#

fair

warm nimbus
#

dude aspho midboss skip is insane

latent moon
#

still no atk boon let's go

hardy spear
#

put on shackle

#

problem solved

latent moon
#

this is fresh file and i dont have shackle

snow skiff
#

Tree you suck

latent moon
#

lvl 3 mistral dash gaming

#

bro aphrodite give me an atk pls

raw herald
#

no

#

disclaimer: i am not aphrodite

signal aspen
#

No

#

Disclaimer: I am Aphrodite

raw herald
#

huh

dusky solar
raw herald
#

there’s a more definitive answer

raw herald
snow skiff
#

@rma city

#

Do you think spearpoint is good

raw herald
#

I’ve literally never used it

#

But Retrash thinks it’s good and he’s cracked

safe tinsel
#

God keepsakes are good depending on the build u going for

snow skiff
#

Nope.

#

Thunder signet always bad.

hardy spear
#

shocking news

safe tinsel
#

Lmao

#

Zeus's duo boons are usually decent and I don't usually have any problems with anything except call and cast

snow skiff
#

Question mark

#

Zeus call is one of the best ones

mint coral
#

Call is the best dps one tho

#

Just get zeus t2s

safe tinsel
#

It misses almost every single shot

mint coral
#

???

patent mesa
#

dio > zeus call tbh

#

but zeus call still op as heck

safe tinsel
#

The thunder just hits the ground 60% of the time

patent mesa
#

you have to be somewhat near your enemy

#

it has a pretty small range

safe tinsel
#

I usually go for artemis call

mint coral
#

Do you only full call btw

warm nimbus
raw herald
#

So instead of 6 60 damage bolts you get 1 100 damage bolt 😈

safe tinsel
#

Thats stupid

raw herald
patent mesa
#

wait retrash uses spearpoint?

raw herald
#

Ye

patent mesa
#

that's so freaking based

#

I love you retrash

mint coral
#

Anything retrash uses is based by default

patent mesa
#

facts

strong ridge
#

lots of factors go into it but spearpoint has potentially higher than 5 blocks total

signal aspen
#

Cursed slash

mint coral
#

But only when he uses it

patent mesa
#

spearpoint haters in shambles

snow skiff
#

L

strong ridge
#

which would make the hp gian from pearpoint greater than acorn

#

pearpoint

snow skiff
#

Em4

mint coral
hardy spear
#

pearpoint

strong ridge
#

god bless

snow skiff
#

God bless with true! True will never die

safe tinsel
#

Wait what does spearpoint do again, I haven't used it in a while

strong ridge
#

after u get hit u get a buffer

snow skiff
#

1.5s of iframes after you get hit

#

Its cracked

safe tinsel
#

Ah yes patroclus

mint coral
#

How long is the cooldown again

snow skiff
#

7

dusky solar
#

and it has a 7 second cd dont forget

warm nimbus
safe tinsel
#

I actually use that a lot I thought from the name it was achilles'

dusky solar
#

no its great

#

it hard counters poison too

warm nimbus
#

poison is a complete non issue

snow skiff
#

Well poison isn't that hard