#h1-discussion
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What about sudden/ferocious
and then spear kinda needs flurry jab for good dps
Or they are just ok for you
Best hammer
its just that your dps in the beginning will be a bit lacking
You become hera but buggy basically
Yeah
we're talking about the one where it turns into a piercing shot
Yep
well that's something for next run
rail has the highest potential from hammers (clockets) but is still really good without it
and fists just has a lot of cool but very meh hammers
Charged shot beowulf takes the OP close ranged flare blast, and allows it to have range
And it also does 80 damage by itself which is a lot
except for breaching which is the only boring fists hammer but its actually the best one
And it can go through shields and obstacles
And also 160 base dmg with a cast loaded kinda strong
does charged shot Beo cast at the point of contact or at the shield itself?
Then add a crit
yeah cshot is def in competition with clockets
I’d say it’s better
maybe
Triple flurry hera is prob better too
i would not go that far lol
how do the different flares differ from each other?
from just regular hera to triple flurry vs regular rail to clockets
Dmg/pom scaling/aoe
Damage, AOE
especially Ares' and Demeter's
How bugged they are
those both suck
Dont look at them
ares and dem sucj
Those dont exists
bottom 3 flares
Demeter sucks?
I was just wondering how they'd function
You don’t get a beam with Demeter
along with thunder flare
It’s just a blast
but yeah
Her flare boon does
Dem flare has no size no damage no scaling
flood flare got it
Big rift, icy kaboom
Her actual cast is better than her flare
We are talking about the cast that is exclusive to hidden shield btw
And she does have some really nice boons

Eyebrows
Oops
I saw that
Rma's into older women
🗿
Can you Really say Milf when shes older than Hades? Its straight up a god Grandma
Ggilf
God Great Grandma
When i saw the unlimited cape supply of hades i died of laughter lol
Cause that proves exactly what Zagreus said
He only has capes to dramatically burn them.
Its basically perma boiling blood
Its supposed to only apply to your cast but it applies to all damage
but most cast builds use Infernal soul, right?
Yeah but it's technically worse than just having hs rd
hs rd?
Hyper sprint and rush delivery
ah
Perma common rd to be specific
Boiling blood is only atk/special
Aphrodite's married? 😩
technically not technically
what do we think boys, grind 50 at work on my break for fun
or do my work like a good little drone
But you don't get it if you lodge a bloodstone which is why it's just perma boiling
hello im new here
Hi new here
i main the adamant rail
nice what's your heat
Not me on run 57 still unable to complete Aphrodites boons 😭 I swear she's ghosting me
Blown kiss 
i find blown kiss sucks with hera it serms to miss and like hit behind them
i guess i have to adjust and fire earlier maybe
Best boon in the game.
Undershoot your arrows so your Cast is the first thing that hits to get all of that bonus damage.
my very first escape was run 46 lol it's rough
they say it's got a weird hitbox
(i do not think it does)
the bosses in this game are kinda hard, but still predictable enough
Go slow and take your time unless you're running tight deadline
Bull is incredibly predictable and just watch for the spear throws
Once bull is down the shield is annoying but you can get 2 shots off after each spear throw
And for his god call honestly just pray it's not Demeter and play slower if needed
hera bow
hera bow with artemis cast heart rend (yes I know it's not good but it's easy to set up) is how I beat hades for the first time on hell mode
is demeter really that bad
got it once
was the same deal as the others imo
It closes a lot of AoE compared to others
Is annoying
But the real solution is just get dem on your god pool
So Theseus cant call her
agreed i always avoid fighting demeter in double boon rooms lol
i don't rly like dem boons tho... maybe im not using them right >.>
Every spear throw and spin atk activates her call thingy
Nah they arent that good
Good alternate picks if rarity is decent but not much
ok yeah cuz chill isn't that appealing of a debuff to me
It does make it a bit easier if you are a bit lousy with the dash timings
like me cough
Sometimes it can be bad tbh
Specially if you have the muscle memory for higher speeds
Yeah, that's an issue too
i do find clarity meme beams pretty funny with arthur tho
I tried but i dont get much DPS on him before the bloody shield Pops up
turn on my special, sit back and lazy dodge while everything else gets melted
That's why I said go slow
Just keep baiting spear throws and backstab him
2 shots after every spear throw
Yep
You can save your call for Theseus god call
Hmm ill try that next time i use the bow
He cant block so free dmg
Clapped theseus ass with the Rail gun tho
Bow has piercing shot right you could just get that hammer lol
Does it not have a hammer that lets normal shots pierce shields
No
Damn I've been scammed
Outside of the shield btw
What was your build for theseus
Honestly i love the rail gun so much now Lmao
Rail is sooooo annoying for me
The 2nd one, the one with the Lock on When using the Special
Eris 
Chiron fun
Oh wait thougjt that was rail lmao
Also spected Heavly into drugging the normal Attack
Lv2 or 3 i believe
with chiron, i think you can get 1 special off before he turns for the shield
maybe 2? i haven't played chiron without fo2 before so not sure
What special you had? Or you played like zag bow
Athena's, which sucks but i didnt have much of a better choice
use your keepsake to force arty on special
No no it was Chiron's bow
Ik is chiron
you can play chiron like zag bow if you ignore the special lol
But playing the other aspects like bad zag bow is a thing
Well you cant play hidden bow like bad zag bow but still
admiteddly i did kinda play like that and Neglected the special
What attack you had then?
Also how many arrows is chiron lv2-3
I wouldnt force artemis depending on the amount
5 at lv 2 and 6 at 3 irc
why not just play zag bow then and have a free crit chance lmao
for chiron if you want bigger dps: arty on special, aphro on attack, try to get heart rend duo. could just be a problem with your dps output
Rend duo?
heart rend is the duo btwn artemis and aphro
Ah i see
Arty special on Chiron?
Aphro for Attack
Also 2 other Upgrades on Attack
I always tried to go Hangover
Ironcially enough it was the one with Quicker Charge time and SLOWER, both with DMG boosts
Good hammers? (Like twin/triple/etc)
cuz there's so many specials the likelihood you crit on one of them is high
i thought the dio was the best for chiron have i been scammed
But I am not touching bow for now
Also arty scales so well with conc volley
Zeus shield is too fun
- chaos boons
and also want to try out Guan Yu
Zeus Shield is Very fun but Once again Theseus and Bull Homie body me 
Gy is fun
I wish they sold the underworld map as a poster
i found images of it but dont know how to go about printing it in the future
Perosnally dont like Twin beacuse it Limits my Range
It was like, Charging shot and Quick Shot at the same Time (?)
bros b4 foul servants of darkness
Idk man, double dmg good
Bow is a melee aspect

i was stuck on them for a long time too, but now i can kill both pretty fast with any weapon. i think major things are this: a) are you building correctly and do you have enough dps. for me this was the biggest issue cuz i was mostly dashing correctly but it was taking so long that i would make mistakes and die before i could kill them. to fix this you just gotta learn what builds work for each weapon. b) are you dodging correctly in order to maximize dps. for ex for asterius i used to run away from him to dodge but actually when he does that thing where he leaps in the air and lands on the ground you should dodge through him so you're behind him, and then free dmg on him for a few seconds and rise and repeat. for theseus really try to maximize as much dps in the time that his back is turned to you after he throws the spear. aka dash immediately to him rly fast when the spear misses. eventually as you get better you can also dash through his spin attack and also occasionally just walk behind him lmao
The one with 300%+ damage but Charges slower
And got in the same run the upgrade that makes the charged shots FASTER and 150%+ damage
Oh dam
isn't the 150% damage from perfect shot hammer
One makes more dmg at nesr distance and other makes.power shots easier and do +150% dmg
Point blank/perfect both are 150%
I doubt im the kind to build Correctly but if i managed to actually complete a run i dont think im completly incompetent
I think
An ez way to get into builds is heavy attack = % boons
Low but quick = flat dmg
Chiron can do hangover too due to ez stacks, but other flat dmg arent that good
Then if you know what boon start look at the codex if you have the upgrade to see what boons synergize
chiron can't do zeus special because of stinky internal cooldowns
And doom is more of a meme
I quess its better than nothing
if you get early dire misfortune on chiron then it might be more viable lmao but that's never a guarantee
The best wah to build smth you dont know how to play is just use tidal dash
Just grab it, add some poms and things like shoals/breaking wave an ez
Ah, so i quess i did made the Right call to always give The Rail gun's Special and Dio for the Normal Attack
tdash breaking wave carried my fresh file bow lmao
I think low tol is better
But at least CoN have the benefit of using curse of vengeance
So i dont need to put doom in my cores lol
how does one do math to calculate this lmao
say hangover does 6 damage per tick, low tol stacks 8 so ticks 16 times, 6*16?
con hits every .35 and normally stacks at 5, so ticks 14 times?
i am very good at math
Curse ticks 30% more often, low tol gives 60% more stacks at max
43% more often
Crush Shot will be stronger even without any Duo Boons.
not how that math works
and yes this is the right way to think about it
low tolerance is slightly better until you realize that means you need all 8 arrows to hit which doesnt always happen
id rate them about evenly except you can use curse of vengenace which is why you do aphro attack
really lol
Low Tolerance better.
Cuz its aphro?
until you realize that means you need all 8 arrows to hit which doesnt always happen
Git gud.
Does curse of vengeance open longing and drowning
In practice, you'll often do two volleys anyway on any enemy where it matters.
Just ignore the volley and play bad zagbow
hmm
dont think so
Not longing
wait it opens cod?
does it actually
Thought you checked the codex
No.
impending misfortune
Dire Doom.
that's true but the extra spice
What have the devs said about the topic of Dlcs?
check the very first pinned post
dlcs extremely unlikely, they believe the game is completely finished story wise and there's nothing to add
tldr basically
something about early access basically being the dlc or something i dont exactly remember i'm pretty sure they mentioned early access somewhere in their response
But the setting and gameplay is so cool
might be wrong on that last one tho
I would have liked to see Daedalus
Characters are so rich
But otherwise it's perfect rn
I have a question:
Does the boons stats upgrade stacks with each other, or multiply?
for example, basic crit damage are 200%, and I have an item that adds +30% to crit dmgs, so the final crits damages are 230% or 200% * 30% ?
almost all are additive
they are additive
so in that case 230
the only thing that's multiplicative is speed i believe
its often better to end something than drag it out
if sgs feels satisfied with it then thats that
i wouldnt mind them fixing bugs but alas
ok, thanks!
and trap damage for some reason lol
Leave my beo alone

lmfao please no bug fixes
I 100% would've liked a qol update
dont even "fix" it just display the right numbers
because game has a lot of qol issues
bugwulf is nice and dandy where it is
I also wanna keep clockets
what
message boards
aight
@mint coral run 3 after reaching the surface on run 2, still gives hammer and got charged shot with mod
although the hammer gave 3 options instead of the normal 1
Nice
i'm assuming demeter is gonna show up on run4
no clue
bruhhh my game crashed as soon as i got a 2 sack
was about to walk into dad fight with 300+ hp cshot 
skill issue
Modded issue

im' actually sad that would've been a clear
also well within td3 time lol
tdash and epic athena atk
with jerky going into dad
common aphro atk 
pain
wait demeter showed up naturally on my run 3
weird
i'm not gonna take her
but
she's there
actually i have to lmao 97 gold moment
u reach surface run 2?
why does charged shot do double the damage of the regular bull rush
because funny
i was confused as to why that upgrade is loved so much, so i looked at the numbers
Why not
yep and it does max damage even if you barely charge it
absurd
i remember getting charged shot on beowulf once
no wonder it did so much damage, in retrospect
charged shot can do some damage
just a bit, yes
hypnos is a cutie
yeah as long as you know what you're doing that's not particularly hard
Ff strat where you suicide until hermes
wasnt disbelief more of a inquiry
thx tho
Yeah, had bow
Managed to get to first phase of invincibility for dad before dying
Fo0 dad slapped me three times for 40 each
f
I mean I don't think I would've won in the long run solely because my arrows were hitting for like 80 damage
Crits were nice but also still would take forever
bow on run 2 
Champs fight took forever
I think run 1 I died on c2 to test something lmao it was an old save
why would you do bow before run 3 lmao
But also I didnt want to play sword knowing that I had a Zeus guaranteed next run
zeus cast good
Because I don't like sword
i dont like bow without hammers 
I doubt I would've reached surface with sword
youd be surprised how easy it is
I also don't like shield without hammers lmao
sword was my favorite for a while but jesus past asphodel it does NO damage
thats why you play sword first 2 runs
I had 1 DD and 1 dash on run 2 lmao it would've been easier to just play slow with bow to reach the surface
what weap is this
I'd take it and just special spam
lol same tbh
If you lose a DD you get one back lmao
or just take the top one
i took addled shot because i feel i dont need the DD
these are the goings so far: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/934969306842791946/1012828153137340576/unknown.png
yeah you could easily make it then lol
but i do sometimes get 40s
40s is pretty fast, thats wr by about 4:36
oh shut it you
lmao
try with pos cast and beaver in styx lol
that literally what i had two runs ago, remember when i said "how did i just kill a satyr through its dc with just a tidal dash"
OOOOOOOO epic wave pounding with tidal strike YES PLEASE
still less damage than epic aphro attack
yeah yeah, whatever
Hades is the most addicting game I have ever played
is thay a normal thing to do
A lot of people do from what i've noticed
most of my binds are the same as default except reload is onbthe left stick and cast is right bumper
controller user 
Ah yes kbm on the switch
Kbm supremacy
this is oppression
Ok worstlos sucks
yooo based kbm user
Screw fists im doing 32 spears first
Worbsetl5
What does champ mean
cthonic champion
and yes, i do have an entire numpad on my mouse
I feel like with a mouse like that you might misclick often
I would 
normally when i show people my mouse they say something along the lines of "what the f*** is that thing"
that has to be extremely hard to use for precise mechanical gameplay
hun, i ONLY play precise mechanical games. this mouse it fifteen times better than having to move one of my precious movement fingers on my left hand to a different key for abilities.
because pressing, for example, Q, means i cant move to the left while im doing so
what about your pinky finger
my shift key is sticky and my pinky isnt very strong so spamming shift hurts a lot
meanwhile my mouse has small buttons that can easily be pressed in tandem with m1, m2, space, or even eachother with no difficulties spamming or otherwise
true ig but that seems difficult to coordinate using 80% of your controls with 1 finger
well i relegate my numbers to binds typically only used one at a time. one such example is i typically have 1, 2, and 3 set to primary weapon, secondary weapon, and melee respectively in fps games
oh i forgot fps games exist
in ULTRAKILL, i have 1 on punch, 2 on dash, 3 on pistol, 4 on shotgun, 5 on nailgun, and 6 on railgun
whats ultrakill
funny boomer shooter style game that has way more complicated interactions than it has any right to and its amazing
i use dash at cursor
ig now that i think about it all of the precision games i play are keyboard only
Die
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/934969306842791946/1012837091899613204/unknown.png
oh maaan the pressures on now, that could be a free diamond or titan blood right there
tbh i really like keyboard only games lol
based
DANGIT i always get trout and never bass
Ye
rip
try getting a perfect catch smh
also what were the devs thinking with making legendary fish 5%
its not about the timing is it?
it is
Bruh it's 50%
faster than 333ms its 50/50 between legendary and rare
this is blasphemy
slower and its 50/50 between common and rare
yeah but they intended 5%
Maid Dusa, Medusa
well yeah but
thats still very much
a
yknow
as a trans person i REALLY relate to it
Oh I've never noticed that lmao
That's kinda funny actually
"the past me... it wasnt even me" is something that as a trans person i HEAVILY RELATE TO
alright
what should i do next?
mhm but i have other keepsakes im still working on
Which ones?
hold a moment
rama
man, trying out guan yu for the first time
and GODS does it feel good
guan yu is so fun!
thunder flourish start rama
Guan Yu is divisive to say the least.
mmm
just makes me go MMMMMMMM
Fin
Special only rama gaming?
no ew
YES i got epic thunder flourish
Why would you start flourish with Rama then
nah
i already did too late
bc the damage is enough for tart
and then you just take epic athena/dem/aphro or arty attack when you see it
Oh that's true I guess
I guess a 97% bonus to your atk is overkill for tart lmao
yep
guess what i got
When you really gotta make sure the numbskull is dead, take epic aphro start on rama
Epic aphro gaming?
beautiful
Now don't lose 
Mono dash rama is interesting
no guarantees its my first time on FO2
That bonus damage from ruthless is gonna be so unnecessary lmfao
honestly id sell and replace with hunter dash lmao
Hunter dash rama goes crazy
She has budget hunters dash with ruthless reflex already

RR rama let's gooooo

Does your bot have a randomized mirror and pact command
Mistral dash better
i am actively pogging rn look at this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012840822145810435/1012843581930745906/unknown.png
pact yes
Nice
bruh
do mirror too thatll be easier
Yeah do mirror roo

Discording your run is a curse that many have suffered from
If it's blessed then where is meme beams
true
im honestly surprised by how much my aim improves when i singletap
anyways back to the sub6 grind
repulse shot or perfect shot?
Randomize mirror level
Perfect
oki
Hopefully the other option wasn't twin or triple 🗿
the triple spread was there
okay
which one of you said to sell tidal for hunters dash?
im giving you a promotion
greater evasion too, what is this run
for rama you take twin > triple > point blank > perfect >>> everything else
no you didnt wtf that was me
Probably not
nah like literally no matter which boon gets the poms it will be great for me
ill do it for elysium then pick up spearhead for styx i think
would be better to take like acorn in ely
thats fair but its too late now
you are only going to get 1, maybe 2 poms from it in ely
ely is typically around 10 rooms, thats DEFINETELY 2 poms, maybe three. mom pom is one every 4.
sweet nectar, dont mind if i do
ely can have maximum 9 encounters
and thats if you dont get midshop
if you get a fountain or chaos then you only get 1 lmao
if you get midshop and then either fountain/patty/chaos its only 7
you get midshop like 90% of the time in ely and its reasonably common for any of the other 3 to show up
WHOAH FO2 BULL IS FAST OH GOD I PISSED MYSELF
hello people
oh my GOD thank goodness for RR dodge chance
and also worth noting that sweet nectar doesnt affect mom pom
which is so stupid
well it specifies found poms, not passively gained poms
pom ely isn't a bad idea if you're 100% confident you won't need defensive keepsake
but in that case it's generally preferable to slap on the hourglass and have a good time spamming well items
it really is
well i thought i didnt need defensive keepsake but uhh, i may be stupid for not realising i might need it for my first time on FO2
hourglass is just way better
insane you got this far with rr rama
im at 7 hp and 3dds left
its really not
yes it is lmao
likely only a handful more poms left, im almost at ely boss
oh
like one more room til
how many poms on your attack lol
perfect point blank not bad
couldve been triple point blank lmao
hades spear is fun!
shush
id just sell tbh
okay
can just buy everything in styx shop
swift strike!!!! just what i needed
rip
if you had taken hourglass into ely instead of mom pom you could be just buying 5 bajillion items from wells and rerolling wells rn
swift strike doesnt work for dash strikes
sadly
reminder: 40% price
dammit
ill go to patty for the DD recover
right, but youll have 800 obols lmao
okay i JUST realised i have 155 max hp rn
honestly id take jerky over the single dd
or hydralite, maybe
hmm...
60% attack damage pretty good
i think getting a dd back is a lot more important than a temporary attack bonus
but maybe that's just me
keep in mind that hourglass means that cyclops jerkies from wells last 14 encounters, regular hydralite lasts for 11 chambers which is absurd, ichors last for 16 encounters, etc
eh the attack bonus lasts throughout styx and potentially into dad
extra dd/more regen is easier to use but jerky is objectively faster
i'd rather be safe and guarantee that i clear
being fast doesn't matter if i die
not the right mentality for beating pbs
not that you have to play to beat pbs
but alas
also hydralite gold is better than 1 dd a lot of the time anyways
pbs?
pb = personal best
well i'm not wrong, am i?
ehh idk
literally what i just said
this is rama were talking about, ridiculous attack scaling can get up to the point of instaphasing bosses
even for survivability its somewhat reasonable to take jerky
fair enough
more kill = more live
actually yeah if this is regular dad and you have rama (and, by the looks of it, lvl 4 aphro attack?), i can see why you'd take the damage bonus over the dd
i'm always looking at things from the em4 perspective, which is probably a mistake on my part
oh
fated persuasion scored me an extra DD, lets go
for me that would be more than enough, but i obviously can't speak from your perspective
hope it goes well, either way
good luck with fo2 dad lmao
i can oft beat hades with 0-1 DDs, but this time i have less than 200 max hp (ive never even had that little entering elysium and first time on FO anything, and im doing FO2
win time
just go fast
so its not the end of the world
i always did wonder what the penalty is if you fail td
so glad i took hydraulic might going into styx!
It only works on the end tunnels
More than good enough for TD2. There's plenty of moments where you can easily save time where you aren't now because you don't need to. Like when you're considering the exits or what to buy in Charon's Shop, you can just pause the game to pause the timer while you're thinking.
not really actually
if you have 300 hp thats a whole minute of time
as long as you dont get hit at all
big if, that
and also a minute is not very long if youre not used to going fast
ezpz
Ez
lmnpz
okay, i timed that hades sweep just fine with FO2 RR
lets see how the rest of this goes
fo2 RR brave
its probably bad that my dad fight tactic is pretty much kill him before he can kill me
pretty good imo
good enough for 32 heat apparently
ah a fellow man of culture
that was good though, that was good
if i had my usual amount of health that mightve succeeded
use GR
if i move around sporadically enough he wont be able to hit me 🧠
but hades summoned the grabbers and the invincibility crystals and i couldnt kill them fast enough
how many times do i have to say that i wont do that?
oh i just ignore those most of the time
in that scenario u ignore the summons go for hades
you literally cant ignore the crystals, they make hades invulnerable
YOU LITERALLY CANT IGNORE THEM THEY MAKE HADES INVINCIBLE
kill him before they can make him invincible 
use tactic of patience
this is what happens
what gr
i do not care, stop telling me to use GR
GR is a crutch and youll never convince me otherwise

dude omg razor shoals actually did something for once
it always does something???
it's a generally useless boon lol
hey what aspect should i use next
fairish but tbh i dont think its something you should worry abt rn
ydy tho
Are you for real
Also who cares if its a crutch
Is good
wait is gr greater reflex theres no way youre using ruthless reflex
if i get used to GR ill never be able to take advantage of the free 30% damage that RR has
no its just that it almost seems to do literally nothing bc you just kill everything so fast
Is 50%
always have, always will
is this shoals slander
i thought you were worried about RI lol the damage buff is worthless on rr
but in this case a wavemaker was barely alive after my cast hit it
not from me, no
I barely use ruthless and remember that
deranged individual
and it jumped across the room and died of shoals
it was rather beautiful

epic embed fail
thanks discord
shoals is cracked, get this slander out of here
facts
hmm

crazy

also greatest reflex is cracked, ruthless reflex is one of the worst mirror perks in the game
i just want to share that modded did not give me the hammer it was supposed to
alright which aspect am i doing next folks
RR is a crutch, it gives you free damage
on fresh file
persuasion is also a crutch
you arent playing the game the right way unless you arent allowed to reroll things
persuasion is a crutch, it gives you the boons you want
got breaching rush, dread flight, and empowering shot on shield very cool mod
if you absolutely have to use RR use an ATK heavy aspect like rama
dark foresight is also a crutch, it gives you better builds
not using ri4 is a crutch
@latent moon did you quit and re-enter game
thats not playing the game the real way
nope
exactly
should i
wack
i
was
using
rama
that's usually the source of guaranteed hammer failing
also you shouldnt be using aspects, those make the game easier
based
should i quit the game before entering hammer room then
try beo time
someone just name a random aspect preferably not meta
moving isnt necessary it clearly wasnt intended by the devs
keepsakes are also a crutch because your build should just actually be completely random
no don't do that, it causes hammer to become unmodded
beo
poseidon
i am going to hit you
welp i didn't hit quit so idk lmao
what
okay
dont worry they wont be able to catch up to you while using ruthless reflex
in fact fresh file is the only way to play the game without a crutch
youre only a real gamer if you never unlock anything
Zagreus
also boons are actually crutches too
you shouldnt be able to get outside support
thats cheating
Bartholomew
Using buttons is a crutch
lvl 0 boonless keepsakeless mirrorless zag sword
Playing hades is a crutch
What keepsake should I change my tag to
skull earring
RR best mirror option
Acorn that one sucks
How to I copy the corner thing
I did that but then it just copied aoeui
^
are you on mobile?
『distant memory best keepsake』
Yes
Here is a template
#Olympian Favor Sweep
Whats that
somenoob change your name too
The funny keepsakes are already taken
Cosmic egg
shawl
Do it quick
There aren't actually that many outrageously bad keepsakes
Force me
@ moderators
I lied all keepsakes suck because they're in hades
real
shawl, butterfly, egg, spearpoint, and pom blossom are left
Egg is best one cuz it made Chaos laugh at dad dying
Spear point isn't outrageously bad
it honestly is
It has some uses
Spearpoint is good
what are the uses
i just did that today
bballs?
Em4
aaaand thats it
Can be pretty good for that
and even then its worse than tooth
I like taking spear point in tart
Ok what if you ate a tooth in asphodel already
why are you taking tooth in aspho when you know youre doing em4
save that for dad
Dont

spearpoint has to be one of the most overrated keepsakes by the good players in this server
hi
it honestly is awful
BRUH
Nice
you suck
True
Thunder signet is overrated ngl
Zeus boons kinda suck
yuo suck!
Name 1 good player in this server
i think im about to get a really good aspho leave
Checkmate
My phone tried to autocorrect boons to blons
Tree
if i get rush delivery on my second hermes this run i'm deleting this save file
Run died
Bruh who is that
i got common rd
WAIT WTF
no wau it's tree
I JUST GOT MIDBOSS SKIP
Yo sup Tree69420
Skill issue
do i keep my word of deleting the save file or actually keep going
Keep going
go
fair
dude aspho midboss skip is insane
still no atk boon let's go
this is fresh file and i dont have shackle
Tree you suck
huh
because i am
there’s a more definitive answer
omg @ nyaanaa mee
God keepsakes are good depending on the build u going for
shocking news
Lmao
Zeus's duo boons are usually decent and I don't usually have any problems with anything except call and cast
It misses almost every single shot
???
The thunder just hits the ground 60% of the time
I usually go for artemis call
Do you only full call btw
is it not literally just worse than tooth
So instead of 6 60 damage bolts you get 1 100 damage bolt 😈
Stops you getting wombo combod
wait retrash uses spearpoint?
Ye
Anything retrash uses is based by default
facts
lots of factors go into it but spearpoint has potentially higher than 5 blocks total
Cursed slash
But only when he uses it
spearpoint haters in shambles
L
Em4
🍐 ☝️
pearpoint
god bless
God bless with true! True will never die
Wait what does spearpoint do again, I haven't used it in a while
after u get hit u get a buffer
Ah yes patroclus
How long is the cooldown again
7
and it has a 7 second cd dont forget
is it not literally just worse than tooth
I actually use that a lot I thought from the name it was achilles'
poison is a complete non issue
Well poison isn't that hard
