#h1-discussion
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ya
Tbh I’d do ap2 ri0 js2 cp1 dc2 rest standard
Have you tried beo?
or rama
beo is cringe
no i haven't tried beo and i don't want to
But some other people would recommend ap1 ri1
so true bestie
zeus is based
Maybe but it’s kinda based
beo is strong but in a cringe way
So?
im kidding use whatever you want
Beo maybe cringe but it’s my fastest aspect by nearly a minute 
🔫
nah you must use the meta aspects
i use zag bow more than anything else, if you wanna use the meta ill call you cringe but i wont stop you
can i scrap dc and ri2?? instead?? plz 😭
Zag bow kinda high heat meta tho
and then Achilles
I mean you can, but you’ll have to em4 rofl
i think my fastest aspects are
beo 6:43
hesty 7:03
eris 7:15
hera (slicing shot) 7:3x
achilles 7:5x
i hate aproval process
then dont use it
Did you ever make it to aspho with the js3 pact
how in the fk do you get sub ten
It’s horrible
fast
idk how ask the speedrunners
Go fast
ehhhhueiieuieee no 😭
There’s a lot of initial timesave that’s very easy
Chaos shield is one of the slowest aspects in the game
Chaos is the opposite of good 
choas
then how is chaos my fastest and most consistent weapon 
chaos is one of the aspects ever
me when lvl 0 zag shield:
Beo is tough to learn but is infinitely more consistent and has better top ends than chaos
If ur good enough, you can average sub 7 on modded Beowulf
Or flat dmg soup
There’s no way anyone can do that on chaos
i used beo once and it was braindead as hell
me
We found em
i mean, not really
That’s why it’s good
You get 3 boons, Pom one a crap ton, and you get loads of damage
its just straight up overtuned
Ok i thibk my switch is physically messed up
me too!
Save logo didnt appear
uh oh.
you have to use your brain by focusing your will into the computer during your rerolls for rng manips

Top end beo can be tricky
i have 90 on my first file
You need to group enemies
efficient gameplay
zeus is so much more funnnnn thoooo
i would rather die
I had 2.3k on my file before I finally wiped it
does trippy flare get the 2x bug or is that just trippy shot
why the helld you wipe it
Got my 5:48 like 20 runs later
the save will stop saving after a lot of runs
It lags so much at high numbers of attempts
yeah and lag
why?????
It’s only trippy flare on beo
Flare beo poms and mirage
Flare hera mirage
Shot: nothing
hades is made of spaghetti
kk
thats some wack ass game optimization
The game has to store A LOT of data
Especially for thousands of attempts
so what do you do then, start another save and file edit all the stuff in?
basically
Nah, I just use the maxed file on speedrun.com
cool guy made a save wiper, gets rid of runs but keeps pbs
oh nice
uu
Wait it keeps pbs
Ye
its din din time, cyall
cya
Take a break 
i have to beat this
i have to.
i made it to meg with no cast or attack so i think i did pretty well for myself that time
didn't even have fiery on lmao oops
forgot to turn it back on when i turned off dc
what are you trying
Is this 50 heat bow
Oh fun
it's called approval process. and routine inspection.
my favorite pacts.
hell is real.
power coupled.
what keepsake did you start
distant memory best keepsake
Does crit scale off of the attack's base damage or does it take into account buffs apllied it to it?
More specifically the attack boon, I feel like I have enough crit and should replace artemis attack for something with a higher dmg multiplier.
i have artemis strike, aphro special, ares cast, and divine dash
on hera aspect
this is a mess
at least you have hunting blades open
that's probably gonna be my aim, yeah
account buffs
also where is your crit source coming from?
Aspect of nemesis, pressure points, hunter's mark, and the Artemis Dio duo
maybe this is the secret
Yes
selling it isnt really worth cuz you can as well not be offered a decent atk
and replaces are hard to get on an specific boon
But I got an offer for an aphro atk boon with 150% dmg compared to artemis's 50%
Yes
pog
rare crop runs are something else
Beyblade bow?
or is it engulfing blades i forgored which is better
ok this is actually pretty great
what is better part of ares, blade rifts or doom?
Engulfing vortex is better
Usually doom with merciful end
Hunting blades is strong though
doom, if only because cast builds are less common
ares aid exists
i think blade rifts have better poetntial but doom is better early on
Oh true
ares aid is pog
It’s certainly a boon that exists
really, though, anything is better than poseidon aid.
lmao
was about to say, i don't think that pos aid is that bad
it's still an invuln call with damage
a crapload of damage lmao
ares aid is negative dmg
yeah ares aid is actively worse than having nothing
ri[ current goes crazy
plus if you try using it for iframes you just get hit
because you cant dash for a while after it ends
doesnt ares aid just remove your hitbox
what makes aries aid that bad
bad dmg, cant use weapon during it
no damage
JIUT GET Vicious Clyde 😄
and have to do a full call to get actual value from it?
literally.
WHO IS VICOUS CLYDE
wait i thought call was the one that didn't work with it
oh
my God if ares aid just removed your hurtbox??? yes please
SEE VIOSE CLYDE AKRES CALL OP
wait was someone slandering poseidon call
so chaos killed me 😄
because every other call is better
ares call is definitely not better 🗿
stella were you not paying attention to the above convo at all
no
figures
i am the girl who doesnt scroll
honestly i think my favorite calls are a tie between artemis and aphrodite
panic button + fre damag
big damage
artemis and aph are good but theyre very much the kin of call thats not good unless fully charged
i like the dionysus call and the poseidon call and the zeus call but not really the demeter call
zeus-pos-dad are my favs
dem call is okay imo
but once you do, the damage is absolutely chefs kiss
mhm
it's a nice cope pick for an otherwise chill-less build
aphro is basically a meg
i'm the type of guy who never really uses calls unless it's greater call, tbh
^
any call > none but demeter is like a weird blade dash
i will toss out small calls in tough rooms tho
thats bad since most calls are better lesser
use your small calls kids
big > small
arte is the best call for the occasional cast in a room that you need to be done quick
imagine saving for like max dio call 
therefore big call > small call
real
personality>>>>
lmao
tbh i don't really take dio call at all
ok but for real why did the buff the duration
probs because of that exact habit
it doesn't matter how big your call is
why not make it bonus dmg/faster procs
what matters is how you use it
me trying to decipher if thats a sex joke:
it is

i mean with things like aphro and artemis, i'm quite certain they're better at greater
yerp
im min maxing the hell out of my hp so it took like 7 eggs to die
hs isnt bad i just dont use it out of personal preference
hs = seconds faster for my sd regen
Resetting SD with 100 hp makes me want to use hs
Just don't get hit by the pot
oh ok
is a big green pot
also i think complaining just fixed my loading times
why would a pot hit you lol it's an inanimate object
lag is not more
Based
hit pot -> pot hits back
according to newton
the pots contain the souls of the condemned
ok i switched to rama and now it's giving perfect hera boons and hammers.
green pot- you mean the big pot at the end of certain river styx hard paths
gonna switch back and immediately get epic aphro attack
skill issue
indubitably
dad pots
no we mean the pots in the hades fight that deal 30 damage and stun if you touch it or attack it
oh those
OH SNAP
with heightened security they do 150
sure do.
30 damage aint even that much
LAST ARTEMIS BOON FROM ARTEMIS ON THIS HERA RUN
GUESS WHAT I GOT
those count as traps oh gog
30 damage is a huge chunk of your life at high heat
FULLY LOADED
you can take like 3
IT'S TIME
on em4 you can get double tapped by pots lol
awesome
he sometimes spawns 2 pots on the same place
LMAO is that a bug or intended
why wtf
\o/
i hope is not intended
im still too scared to use em4
that'd be amazing if it was
do it
do it for the dialogue
i'm doing it and learning a lot
and banger theme
dad does a little trolling
real gamers do em4 as soon as they hit 10 heat
but we know newtons laws are slightly flawed and are reasonably innacurate for values of v above 0.1c
em4 yoptimal 10 heat
i'm gonna do 45 i think
0.1c is still massive
why are you jumping a reasonable amount of heat????
theres a passive move which just spawns more pots
except they do it over the old ones and stack them
no its not, pretty slow
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOSER CUZ I CAN'T EVEN CROSS INTO ASPHODEL ON 50 OK
about 3 miles/hour
u can do i belif
yeah bc hera
try rama
ah yes, c, the speed of light, is 30mph. of course
yep
I'M TRYING RAMA DUDE 😭
i'm a failure. i don't deserve this title
someone name a completely rnadom aspect thats typically considered bad
gilga
okay
Eris
so true
eris is meta no
eris just rewards high luck gameplay
ima do a gilg run
can we go back in time where people thought eris was the only meta aspect
no
can we get much higher
lc1, bp1, MM, em1 with gilga, sound good?
ive found lc1 to be a pretty easy pact to handle
i would use TD1 but if i get a 5 sack im dead
yeah LC1 is fine
Whats your average time
you really should try TD1 though
beat dad
good god that was one of the most insane hera runs i've ever had
6 casts with hunting blades
i just buzz sawed him constantly
Hunting blades Hera is an interesting choice lmao
i got epic ares cast as my first boon, so i just ran with it
and i'm glad i did
that was awesome
i forgot how fun gilga is!!!
If you switch your keepsake the rarities stay the same lmao
i think its inbetween not and un
Could've been epic aphro
somewhere in there
26 mins, but i never go directly to hades even if i get a 2sack
That's td2 time
i mean sure but it was still effective, it was still fun, and i still won
so i don't feel like i need to regret it at all
Yeah fair but just a future fyi
Why tho
Just go to dad than risk messing up on an awful chamber
Because say if you wanted to play flood beo but have a common cast but see an epic atk, you can switch to like rama and aphro keepsake for big atk
As long as it's in chambers 1 or 2
well i was intending on playing aspect of hera, so i wasn't going to do that
once again, i don't think i need to regret it
Epic attack would probably be better for ME
The zeus special really do be nasty for rama tart
because im very consistent in river myself
Aphro and doom like an epic atk
I think you need 10 chambers
You're gonna need a lot of free rooms apart from midshop for it to last
Oh dark
yes
Yeah patty anywhere in ely will last
2 sack is 8 encounters
ri2 is destroying me. i need that 50 health. i'm dying without it.
Is that both short tunnels
Because somenoob is doing unmodded right
isnt it just 5 + 3 every time?
wait why are you doing unmodded
No
Wasnt 2 sack anyways
i thought tunnel lengths were fixed
They aren't
this game sucks
Lmfao
it's a range. aren't u the one i was discussing it with??
Because you play modded
modded guarantees short tunnels??
Yes
why
For the second tunnel yes
Yeah second tunnel is always 3
isnt first one always 5
three is the lowest, i've seen up to 6?? maybe? maybe it was 5
No
If everything goes right you will either enter dad fight in c50 or 51
Was so exited for duo then it was parting shot
parting shot goes nice
Where is my smair amir
wtf it can be 6 in first tunnel??
Hey good money
i dont feel like ive ever had that happen
Sack room
Oh
LOL
Do another tunnel lol
Rerolled and got broken resolve
let's go
Close enough
Idk go ask cgull
easy clap
But there is short tunnel and long tunnel
Modded can have first tunnel be short or long
Second will be short
Unmodded can have both long
ughurighurgukagbrdhar\g
i feel like ive always gotten the first tunnel as 5
i swear ive never seen a 6
Skill issue tbh
sis is sounding like me today
oh well we all have our little glitches
keep me accountable. twin shot rama, aphro attack, chaos +32% attack all before c8. if i lose, i'm not fit to play 50
Just get the boons
nice what heat
32 arthur
oh
i thought you were doing like 60 beo or smth
Dude fo1-fo0 arthur is so ez
Oh yeah I need to do my scuffed 58 beo run
Lernie was the only awful moment
Il blame blue head lernie
Oh yeah and meg
I lost athena dd there lol
Is there any way to keep track of your time in game without the mod and td?
There's an in-game yimer
settings>timer display
Many thanks
how the hell do i still have convos with Than
alright do i do zag spear 32 or talos-zag fists
i also need gy 
you know why 
holy wtf no wayyyy
ok i did 40 in a single night tho. how did 50 quintuple the difficulty
also if you can record you can probably try to check if someone can spot something you could do better
im choking so hard
What's your pact btw
What's the meg setup for power couple?
heat is like that
Difficulty is exponential lol
bc 40->50 is harder than 0->40 lmao
it snow balls stupidly fast
yeah i'm noticing that.
ive already lost 3 DDs (one was a kiss of styx) and i JUSt cleared asphodel 😭😭😭
sigh my pact is...
also game kinda not balanced beyond 40
i could probably reasonably streak luci 50 but i have no chance at luci 55
devs didnt expect it for people to go that high
i'm running the same for rama and hera, i'm flipping back and forth
Go to gorgon and wait for guy to fall down
Didn't work, he spawned to her left but my meg was vertical 😩
2 zap fists runs in a row lets go
ahem... HL5 LC4 CF2 JS1 EM3 CP1 BP2 MM UC FO2 HS RI2 AP2 TD3
Only standing upper
With Rama take dc
wait for dude to fall
stupid dummy game
Gilga moment
do this for rama 50
uuuurrngh dc...
add ap1 or js3
Well
Too much cf
Rama you always special first

rama has the easiest dc clearing probably
Yep
hey that looks... exactly like my pact except with dc on and ap off
yeah rama handles the dc the best out of any aspect
except you have pl... i don't
it literally almost doesnt exist on rama
oh yeah 
visual bug with swapping between hell mode and normal with the mod pack iirc
JS3
its honestly possibly reasonable to take dc2 as first 2 heat on rama
Stop
its literally that good
omg fated auth is carrying my run rn
sus
sus indeed
also matt before you self hate further, remember most people dont even do 32
you are already cracked by 40 hera
i have exactly what you have, but you have 50 and i have 47. pl would make it 48
what in the world am i missing
add js2 ap1
thats what i said
me paying super close attention as always
if you had pl i said either do js3 or ap1 but since you dont you have to do js2 ap1
this is true
well let's have some fun then... see if this does me any good...
feel like AP1 is an autopick for 50
for my beo 50 i did max js could rama not handle that
yeah AP0 then
console moment
ap1 is chill on rama tbh
you get a lot of good hammers to choose from
EM4 time
em4 is actually probably better here yeah
oh i just no hit the bull miniboss thats a huge morale boost for me
cracked
uu
uuubnghngnhrffrrr
third longest intermediate map
i considered em4?? but to go all that way and get clapped down is gonna get me into a fit of rage tbh
should i try it?
ohhh cold fusion thats really good here
wtf this is 50
all the homies hate EM4
how is that actually 50 that doesnt even compute
rama em4 can get rekt too easy tbh
lol EM4 pacts be like
yeah. that's 50.
one sneak and good bye to power shotting
hell is real. unmodded gaming
id run that pact for unmodded
js1 ri2 pogu
which btw is ALL I'VE BEEN GETTING
Speaking of which
I got zeus 4 rooms in a row
SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK
special only rama time
Didn't even open any duos with anyone else
do you only have tidal dash or smth
Nah
fresh file butterfly ball
why did i take the miniboss room
knowledge issue
gilga is SO satisfying ong
tidal doesnt open sea storm
yeah but if you dont get bad summons its really really good
I thought that was an athena issue only
i JUSt realised i have <200 max hp about to get to third boss i should fix that
it all just comes to dont get the summons anyway
yeah
for every aspect lol
where's God.
sea storm is still opens by cast at least
speeder savior numbskulls again.
Hey
hey bud i got questions for You
anyways yeah id run that pact
i am
i am assuming nourished soul does not make healing possible on lc4.
nope
its terrible
you cant even sell it for uc
frost flourish rama it is.
okay i passed the late game powerspike gilgamesh has, now im shredding everything
that one is actually good
simply for fo2 or some other hidden reason?
nice counter to fo2
yeah it certainly does help a bit
myrmidon bracer op
easier power shots
almost wish it was doom, but i can't complain about knocking out fo2 at all...
is pos worth anything on aphro attack/dem special rama? any ideas?
dash... eeehhhh... maybe? kinda wanna play it safe here
pos dash on bow is good to have
didn't think so
safety + extra damage
il take hunter dash over tidal
double tap them with your attack and shared suffering
i just know taking it is gonna bite me if i did find it
numbskull revenge
^^ same
you can consider flood shot + breaking wave for styx shredder but i think thats more of a speedrun tactic than high heat
other than that just uc fodder boons? and hydro might
but i also dont play enough hot rama so idk
absolutely not lol
i think i'd... oh... crap actually
well i can afford to sell dem if i have to. 
he could not, in fact, comfortably sell dem... if he even got into asphodel.
just get the rooms
oh good idea
Slippery can be fine if it's c2 chaos
c5
Unless you get armored thugs
also id take roiling over slippery c2
Lmao
That's just wrong
No it doesn't
it literally does
Having your casts honestly doesn't do much if it's just endless witches or numbskulls
Witches like to spawn far away
timed out
just beat champs on fresh file bow
wtf is this game
you could stand still and win i think you're good
I've never seen somebody unironically use bracer over acorn
i am terrified
you either win or you lose
bruh centaur soul
bracer is cracked wdym
isnt that the only downgrade well item?
Technically yeah
midas touch could be maybe
downgrade? centaur soul gives max hp wdym its a downgrade
you lose hc
high confidence
high con
heightened consequences
Acorn can block up to 340 damage on hl0 and you are playing Gilgamesh which makes you play hl2.5
ok i have tartrage im to get a furies pb
nearly incomprehensible
i have work at 6AM
should i show up
.no
true
damn it i got greedy on the prefires
not a pb
1:59.59 tart leave lol
Zag sword

wait thats not 0.01s less than 2m nvm
i would love to leave in 2m
2m is a pretty bad tart leave
i barely reach meg in 3.5 if i'm lucky
for the level im trying to run at
oh gee oh golly well
Bro take a break
i can do this
me or matty
mike tyson didn't take no breaks
Mat
MIKE DIDN'T BENCH HIMSELF
mike didn't chill
Seriously tho
what aspect has furies wr
c5 epic rare crop : |
Bruv guess
beo/hera prob
lol are you actually grinding this
well like
You'll never believe it
it is just beo
i'm on run 2
with lucky crits
OKAY OKAY LETS GO?
Yes
run 2 bow
use your call
I don't even have the sheet I just know it's beo
it should be hera
Hera sucks @ croven
unless you get a busted hera before furies that aint happening
or try triple shot runs ig
beo 8.54 hera 9.14
He dropped a gyro 😍
TRUE
He dropped some tacos
thats a tasty looking lasagna
i think i pissed myself
no gyro clear dialogue
streak 19 lets go
Gross
not the lvl 4 storm lightning
why live
yes the lvl 4 storm lightning
Aoe bro
did it just keep showing or what
wdym isnt it so good
it only has 2 jobs
yo you're never gonna be able to find where that cast is going lmao
storm lightning is my #1 pom on eris
opening splitting and uc fodder
in splitting we trust
splitting kinda jolted
delcous
Zeus cast can bounce back n forth between two enemies right
Storm lightning goated for heroes
Maybe
wanna test it
well i'm about to find out
also since i reached the surface, am i gonna see dem or hammer next run lmao
10
lit
red/black swirly ribbon around me? no ares boons?
(if all of the hits are from casts)
whuzzat
oh
what aspect
technically but the way that it can happen is kinda spaghetti coded
i think dem will have priority
idk
yeah i'm gonna die from 1 boiling blood hit
rama
thats it?
oh well i dunno what it is
Isn't that just a bp thing
hm
yeah that's it
it is?
The purple circles
probably
no it's like a red and black ribbon swirling around my waist
but yeah i dunno
idc lol
yeah the purple circles cause that
i wish there was a vc channel here
tmw you're not used to non fo2 hades so you get slapped by 2 swings
-80 hp 
make that -120 now
classic
welcome to the house of hades!
just reached first invulnerability phase and he spawned 2 exalted archers lmfao i'm dead i have 11 hp
hi hypnos!
nice got stabbed
best part of gilga is i can use relentless reflex without being criticised
ok i should probably know this but i don't pay attention, do mm summons have bp if they're armored super elites?
You won't be criticized about ruthless but you will be criticized for playing Gilgamesh
spear is 4
stupid spear
ok i'm sold on lightning rod
Spear is such a scam don't unlock it
this boon is really good
Rod moment
the damage is incredible, and it really is easy to just leave the casts there
and just set up a massive constant damage field
now add any other zeus boon
so fun fact if you don't unlock a weapon it stops you from unlocking any of the others
wish i could get rod...
does double strike work on the lightning rod zaps?
yup
and static discharge
i had jolted as well
no yeah i love this boon
okay lucifer is REALLY fun i just no hit the MM bomb dudes in tart
Rod is so dumb
it was a bit awkward since i had artemis cast, so i had to fling the casts right at walls to make sure they'd drop and not just stick to something
crush shot is fun for rod
it is a lot of fun actually
imagine if after you beat the epilogue and em4 then when you reach styx and hand over the sack, Cerberus says "um nope. not this time buddy. i'm serious"... and then you could lay the smack down.. i think it would be very controversial by some or even boycott if you could beat up on cerberus
it wouldn't be in the spirit of the game or the character lol
cerb could help out dad but not be fightable like the Em furies
yeh, that sort of thing wouldn't too far from a dusa boss fight lel very much out of canon
||say hi to em4||
hi!
i still havent tried it
you should
It's an experience
Do it with fo2 and cp2 lmao
ughhhhhhh why is sub 6 so hardjhdrfbgkuydghb
my current approximate reset point for tart is <1:55 and aspho is <3:20 but those are really hard to hit
no :)
Lmao fair
triple bomb and triple beam together on lucifer is just mwah chefs kiss
because you don't consider it legit without hard labor 5 on too?
i refuse to use anything higher than HL2 rn
do you hit an enemy three times with triple jab or does it just widen the hit box on spear?
right
they are fanned out a bit
makes a trident looking pattern
but does it hit 3 times at point blank? im assuming not
no
ah rip tyty!
omg i got acrtic blast with glacial glare, frost strike and swift strike on lucifer. im proccing arctic blast multiple times a second.
i don't need to turn on hl5, fo2 and cp2 for the boss fight, just one point in h security and the pot get me before i can tell the difference
bro.
this is a great lesson in
accepting imperfection and failure
i never was very good at it
damn, i was trying to get the fate stuff and ended up speedrunning
nemesis sword is too op man
no way
No hit him like a champ
so i was wrong
I also cant decifer which weapon is this
i WAS able to survive another hit
NOW I HAVE 3 HEALTH
its pos sword
oh
well
there goes my 20 streak
Streak come and go
dodge better
i won hades without using a single revive once
i take losses pretty well, it happens
i beat him with no DD literally last run 
Was there a reason you took earring tho
Wait why is your cast unpommed
because it was NEVER AN OPTION
shes a chad she dont need a pomme
i REALLY WANTED TO
Are you using olympian favor per chance
she*
common boon only run lets go
i like it honestly
i took pos for the cast % damage
i just special before i cast so i still get boiling blood bonuses
but i like saving up and buying titan blood
Going up in heat gives you 2 per win
that and i think the last shop is very powerful
i know, but consider this: 3 per win
You can have enough gold for styx shop and not take golden touch
perhaps
Sell unnecessary boons and don't take unnecessary gods
Any pom you get early is worth anyways
Before pom pool becomes a mess
Specially on castpects
Buying a pom with the starting 100 gold is gonna be more beneficial throughout the whole run than the double pom in styx
Styx shop can be awful
