outsped
#h1-discussion
hardy spear
brisk trail
bro has the haste of hermes
mint coral
Hyper sprint irl!?
hardy spear
you cant keep up with me ive got lambent plume equipped
brisk trail
real
brisk trail
you cant keep up with me ive got lambent plume equipped
what rank? 🤔
hardy spear
e
strong ridge
21
mint coral
you cant keep up with me ive got lambent plume equipped
Oh no i cant keep up with your 1.2% speed bonus
hardy spear
quake in fear
strong ridge
yea you are 1.2% slower is this not clear
hardy spear
yea you are 1.2% slower is this not clear
no hes not thats not how math works
hardy spear
a rock even
brisk trail
dropping a big rock on people always seems to cripple them
rain relic
A pebble perhaps?
strong ridge
~~no hes not thats not how math works~~
yep it does sorry thats how it is
brisk trail
smh guys just get the spiked collars
hardy spear
i miss when spiked collar felt op
mint coral
dropping a big rock on people always seems to cripple them
It doesnt cripple Hades
brisk trail
it should
hardy spear
i reckon he'd fall to enough of them
brisk trail
i should start maxing out keepsakes
warm nimbus
when youre so cool that you instaphase furies without mirage or cshot
hardy spear
whats he going to do against a storm of boulders lets be real
brisk trail
whats he going to do against a storm of boulders lets be real
move
oh yay, i get to use the water gun again
hardy spear
thanatos summons after their targeted enemy moves 4 feet to the right
brisk trail
fun
hardy spear
water gun?
hardy spear
ah
mint coral
Super soaker gaming
brisk trail
got the hammer
hardy spear
does anyone actually charge the beam on that for an extended period of time
brisk trail
flash fire or concentrated beam?
patent mesa
both are eh
mint coral
Nah flash is blessed
hardy spear
what's the other one
mint coral
Faster start up kinda nice
brisk trail
i refuse to use greater inferno
hardy spear
fair
brisk trail
or the hellfire in general
warm nimbus
yeah greater inferno sucks
brisk trail
too boring
warm nimbus
or the hellfire in general
ok thats a mistake
patent mesa
bruh
brisk trail
ok thats a mistake
as long as i have fun, it isnt
warm nimbus
literally the thing that makes luci good 
patent mesa
or the hellfire in general
it's a literal ring of fire, how could it not be good
rof is insanely cracked
warm nimbus
rof
hardy spear
i fell in to a burning ring of fire
i went down down down and the flames went higher
brisk trail
im just gonna pick flash fire
hardy spear
how do you play without using hellfire
brisk trail
i just do
warm nimbus
i mean flash fire isnt as good if youre not using the special
if youre just using the attack id take concentrated
brisk trail
controllers are better than keyboard
mint coral
Eh for the rail special/trippy shot i feel kbm is better
But i cant use it anyways lol
hardy spear
Controller issue
i just fire it and then move myself to a place where its between me and an enemy so it actually hits
warm nimbus
Controller issue
kbm just better
mint coral
Dw i wont use luci in the near future anyways
snow skiff
artemis attack concentrated beam lucifer so true
mint coral
I already have 32 luci
brisk trail
kbm just better
doubt
hardy spear
aim assist op
hardy spear
yeah we do
warm nimbus
on controller you do lol
hardy spear
its extremely heavy aim assist
warm nimbus
yeah
brisk trail
i thought that was just
mint coral
So heavy it makes achilles special annoyinh
brisk trail
built in.
hardy spear
nop
warm nimbus
thats like
what makes it good
or useable, at least
doesnt exist on kbm which i actually prefer most of the time
snow skiff
controller suck
mint coral
So heavy it makes achilles special annoyinh
You aim not even near the enemy anf it sticks to it
brisk trail
controller suck
doubt
hardy spear
i wish i could lower the aim assist sens
warm nimbus
^^
hardy spear
You aim not even near the enemy anf it sticks to it <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
you try move it slightly off and you end up having to turn like 90°
warm nimbus
have you considered that youre wrong
hardy spear
overall the game feels really good on controller
brisk trail
Kbm has the wr so no doubt
you speedrunners.. gods almighty
snow skiff
i just don't have a controller
warm nimbus
i just don't have a controller
same but that doesnt stop me from having an opinion
mint coral
For me it just depends on the game
brisk trail
how much necter do you have to give bouldy?
strong ridge
yes
hardy spear
same but that doesnt stop me from having an opinion
how can you say you prefer one over the other when you dont have one of the options
mint coral
All of it
latent moon
how much necter do you have to give bouldy?
You just keep giving bouldy nectar there's no limit
warm nimbus
*how can you say you prefer one over the other when you dont have one of the opt...
because ive played a few games with controllers that everyone says are better on controller and i just find that kbm is better for me with them
hardy spear
douse that boy on nectar
mint coral
why all of it
Cuz bouldy needs everything
warm nimbus
it took me like 30 hours to get used to the controls of hollow knight on controller but i was used to them in like 5 minutes on kbm
hardy spear
because ive played a few games with controllers that everyone says are better on...
its probably just because youve used kbm for longer so its going to be more comfortable
warm nimbus
its just a lot more intuitive for me
warm nimbus
its probably just because youve used kbm for longer so its going to be more comf...
exactly so i see no point in switching when its personal preference in like every game except for mariokart
snow skiff
kbm mario kart sounds based
latent moon
Sounds funny
warm nimbus
tilt the monitor for motion controls
or just tap a and d?
hardy spear
why would i do that
warm nimbus
hardy spear
warm nimbus
do you use tilt steering in mariokart
brisk trail
i use a actual steering wheel
latent moon
I play Mario kart while driving 😎
brisk trail
now play bumper cars
strong ridge
bumper cats
hardy spear
on the motorway
brisk trail
ok american
ok british
brisk trail
no, we really need to start driving more tanks through them
warm nimbus
ok charged flight beo is awful this sucks
latent moon
whats so free about your motorways
The fact that we can play Mario kart or bumper cars on them
mint coral
ok charged flight beo is awful this sucks
Go back in time to where it was +400%
hardy spear
by the way am i supposed to be able to dodge things while using rama bow
warm nimbus
lol are you trying it
hardy spear
i just facetank everything i dont instakill
warm nimbus
here was my first attempt
warm nimbus
by the way am i supposed to be able to dodge things while using rama bow
yeah you just dont get hit
snow skiff
how did people unironically use charged/dashing flight
mint coral
It was old beo meta
latent moon
Because no one thought cast was useful probably
warm nimbus
because 700 damage specials in tart are pretty good
snow skiff
somebody go back in time and use flood flare
warm nimbus
It was old beo meta <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
is it because they didnt look into flood flare or because it was actually good lmao
latent moon
somebody go back in time and use flood flare
No that would make mirage shot work normally
warm nimbus
^^
mint coral
is it because they didnt look into flood flare or because it was actually good l...
Nobody knew of mirage shot
Bug
brisk trail
the fact that zag can casually fish in lava
mint coral
And also +400% kinda a lot
brisk trail
confuses me
snow skiff
nobody knew about it is the reason half the things in this game are the way they are
like flurry jab
hardy spear
the fact that zag can casually fish in lava
you dont?
warm nimbus
Nobody knew of mirage shot
yeah but flood flare beo was meta when mirage bug was discovered, right?
signal aspen
if i got a sub 10 do i classify as a speedrunner
No you need sub6
hardy spear
easy
brisk trail
you dont?
where in the great orange earth am i gonna find lava
not green, thank climate change for that one
hardy spear
texas probably
signal aspen
Um actually it's magma 🤓
brisk trail
Um actually it's magma 🤓
um, actually im going to toss your glasses into a pit of lava
hardy spear
give it a taste test
mint coral
yeah but flood flare beo was meta when mirage bug was discovered, right?
Flood flare use and mirage where post charged flight nerf
warm nimbus
Flood flare use and mirage where post charged flight nerf
oh damn
latent moon
um, actually im going to toss your glasses into a pit of lava
Didn't the devs rerecord every line that mentioned "lava" to "magma" because everyone said it was magma lmao
warm nimbus
i mean surely even if mirage bug didnt exist flood flare beo would still be better than cflight beo
warm nimbus
Didn't the devs rerecord every line that mentioned "lava" to "magma" because eve...
yeah
mint coral
Honestly both convos about discovering mirage shot bug-trippy flare poms is hilarious to read in the speedrunning server
signal aspen
i mean surely even if mirage bug didnt exist flood flare beo would still be bett...
Nah cflight is insane
mint coral
Flood flare without mirage kinda sad
latent moon
Just get fully loaded so it's budget mirage
signal aspen
Just get 3 extra casts so it's basically mirage shot
warm nimbus
Nah cflight is insane
using it rn it sucks
mint coral
Just get rav will
signal aspen
Skill issue
warm nimbus
Honestly both convos about discovering mirage shot bug-trippy flare poms is hila...
wheres the trippy flare poms one
mint coral
Imagine a world where mirage was fixed tho
latent moon
Just get 3 extra casts so it's basically mirage shot
Not me ending with 8 casts in a run and not knowing about the mirage shot big lmao
warm nimbus
ive seen mirage bug and bad news but not that one though
brisk trail
I thought of a good thing to deal a ridiculous amount of damage to bosses
hardy spear
hit them
latent moon
Imagine a world where mirage was fixed tho <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
It'd still probably still be good on beo tho
brisk trail
It’s probably already a thing but the blade spin dash thing from ares is good if you spam it in a corner near bosses I dealt like 3500 damage to hades in like 10 seconds
latent moon
Also considering that high heat doesn't even use mirage shot beo is still just good in general lol
mint coral
It'd still probably still be good on beo tho
It probably would run passion
snow skiff
hunter's flare:
latent moon
It probably would run passion <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Passion and high roll mirage if you're feeling spicy lmao
hardy spear
how much of each currency does bouldy drop
brisk trail
whats a gyro
hardy spear
10 gold
signal aspen
He drops like 3 gyros
brisk trail
man i need another hammer
raw herald
whats a gyro
Food
signal aspen
What???????
quaint pier
is cursed slash worth taking ??
brisk trail
nope
quaint pier
faur
brisk trail
you lose a bunch of hp and only get 2 hp per slash back
mint coral
In a timeline where it works with dash strikes, maybe
brisk trail
lmao true
how does the luci beam benifit from 'swift strike'
makes the beam charge up faster or something?
brisk trail
that was a couple minutes ago, already picked
not like im gonna sit on that screen for 10+ minutes
and it increases your atk speed%
pretty good.
warm nimbus
https://discord.com/channels/523766637212598276/787779451865399368/8817523772066...
thats beautiful
thank you scalar for playing dio beo so we could figure this out
strong ridge
not like im gonna sit on that screen for 10+ minutes
why not
brisk trail
yes
warm nimbus
how does the luci beam benifit from 'swift strike'
yes but its not great
mental vale
does it not tick 10% faster
hardy spear
that's barely anything
brisk trail
just got 5 sacked.. wish the AOL had more ammo
warm nimbus
yeah zag rail exists but thats
luci has enough ammo anyways
since you reload after you special
and special cooldown is i think less than reload + clip empty time
brisk trail
i dont use special : troll :
warm nimbus
oh yeah
brisk trail
i dont use it out of pure spite
warm nimbus
for what? who?
brisk trail
i have
warm nimbus
^^
brisk trail
didnt like it
warm nimbus
didnt like it
oh yeah you play on controller dont you
brisk trail
i perfer the water gun
brisk trail
oh yeah you play on controller dont you
yes
signal aspen
mfw i triple my specials base damage 
warm nimbus
yeah controller luci isnt great but its still really good
brisk trail
||time to finish the game's story||
brisk trail
this is why you dont play on controller
no
quaint pier
ive just completed a run with all weapons, and i now have 14 blood. i have unlocked all aspects except the fists secret aspect because i hate the fists
advice on what todo next ??
warm nimbus
you have a delicious name
warm nimbus
ive just completed a run with all weapons, and i now have 14 blood. i have unloc...
uhh what weapons do you like to play
quaint pier
you have a delicious name
thanks 🙏🙏
quaint pier
unlock the fists
i was researching what all of the aspects do and turned it off before i could see the secret
i care that little for it
quaint pier
uhh what weapons do you like to play
fav is bow
brisk trail
its pretty good IMO
warm nimbus
good aspects on bow are rama hera and zag bow to some extent
a lot of people find chiron fun (it gets a lot better at higher levels) but its not very good
if you like bow gameplay i would say to level up rama bc its fun
and has really unique gameplay
and big damage
signal aspen
idk man as someone with around 10 40 heat runs under my belt i will literally always pick chiron over the other bows.
latent moon
All the bows are pretty good imo, Chiron just has no big damage aoe so it falls off compared to the others
Chiron def the worst bow tho
quaint pier
what ab the shield ??
warm nimbus
beo is by far the best shield aspect
warm nimbus
zeus shield is good but it can be hard to get the hang of
zag shield and chaos are just terrible if you dont get charged shot
i would not recommend either of those (especially chaos)
for zeus you generally just do zeus on special and get a lot of zeus supporting boons or go for ares attack and athena special or vice versa
and then get ME
on beo you start flood flare, look for artemis and take her attack, or special if attack isnt offered then look for mirage shot
on beo mirage shot is bugged and the second cast actually does the same damage instead of 30%
quaint pier
is that smt thats gonna be patched in the near future
brisk trail
mfw i have 36 ambrosia
signal aspen
i have 69 ambrosia
brisk trail
nice
swift inlet
good aspects on bow are rama hera and zag bow to some extent
I thought zag was considered a good high heat weapon?
quaint pier
zag shield and chaos are just terrible if you dont get charged shot
so if i were to spend blood, what should i upg first
warm nimbus
I thought zag was considered a good high heat weapon?
it is but you need charged shot
warm nimbus
so if i were to spend blood, what should i upg first
id say beo on the shield
or zeus shield if you really want to do that
quaint pier
nah i aint really like zeus
swift inlet
Beo and hera seem like good options
quaint pier
what ab the rail ??
swift inlet
Oh yeah
Eris is like the easiest braindead weapon
Flexible and juicy
Theres still a lot of skill with it but the skill floor isn't super high
Get hit by your own special, enemy go boom
warm nimbus
eris is amazing
swift inlet
But considering the bow is your fave
swift inlet
Rama and hera are both super good but also super fun
warm nimbus
way better than rail
hmm
signal aspen
feck
swift inlet
way better than rail
Holup
swift inlet
Eris feels better for a newer player
signal aspen
eris is easier
warm nimbus
easier faster and hotter
swift inlet
Unless you have rocket bombs and can't aim
warm nimbus
im counting the retrash 60
signal aspen
hestia is hot
swift inlet
eris looks stupid
Fax
signal aspen
im counting the retrash 60
hestia actually has a 60
warm nimbus
wait it does what
swift inlet
Beowulf the best looking good weapon
warm nimbus
by who
quaint pier
if i upg the secret aspects, aint that gonna burn through my blood quicker
signal aspen
zyru
swift inlet
Nemesis kinda neat
warm nimbus
oh yeah there is
swift inlet
Celestial sharanga is sexy too
tepid light
i'd bring up guan yu but you said "good weapon"
warm nimbus
guan yu is pretty good
tepid light
it looks awesome af
tepid light
alas my playstyle makes using guan yu rather dangerous
snow skiff
beo worst shield no 62 heat clear
tepid light
why so much guan yu hate
i love guan yu
snow skiff
it just needs cskewer to be good lol
winged serpent:
tepid light
i just die a lot with it
swift inlet
Winged serpent is nice
snow skiff
no it's not it sucks
tepid light
no it's not it sucks
yeah well u suck
quaint pier
out of beo, rama and hera, should i upg 2 once and 1 twice ??
or save for some reason idk yet
warm nimbus
the one there that benefits the most from levels is rama
warm nimbus
although levels are still really good on hera/beo ofc
swift inlet
Rama gets a big damage boost, beo and hera just get qol
signal aspen
hera doesnt need levels just play trippy flare
warm nimbus
hera doesnt need levels just play trippy flare
snow skiff
i play crystal beam hera
tepid light
don't beo upgrades increase its damage
quaint pier
alr i got one on beo and two on rama
mint coral
Beowulf the best looking good weapon
Stupid noodle shield doesnt looks good
quaint pier
got 5 blood to spare
mint coral
Also is a big plate
snow skiff
it's a board smh
tepid light
silence, pyre fanboy
mint coral
I like beo but its design is ew
tepid light
poseidon sword looks cool but i cannot bring myself to use it
tepid light
it's a big choppy broadsword, i can respect that
warm nimbus
don't beo upgrades increase its damage
only the attack damage
which is good but not essential
signal aspen
poseidon best sword ngl
warm nimbus
although being able to do 240 damage just from attack with no attack boon in tart is pretty insane lol
tepid light
Arthur sword without the effects looks so bland too
i'd call it elegant tbh
mint coral
In game with the big glow it looks cool
Also reminder Eris has a scope but not hestia
tepid light
give shield a scope
warm nimbus
Also reminder Eris has a scope but not hestia
isnt the scope blocked by part of the weapon lol
mint coral
Yes
warm nimbus
lmao nice one sgg
snow skiff
i mean to be fair arthur is modeled after the excalibur which is literally the most "generic sword" weapon ever
warm nimbus
^^
mint coral
I think zag sword is the best looking sword
And thats mainly cuz i havent looked at nem
tepid light
tbh i think nemesis sword is the least interesting visually
snow skiff
nem kinda looks like a pool noodle ngl
tepid light
it just looks bland
mint coral
nem is so much cooler
Show me a pic
warm nimbus
qwtf is wrong with you people
tepid light
which is unfortunate because of how strong it is
warm nimbus
mint coral
No pointy stab
warm nimbus
er here wait lemme get i higher res one
mint coral
Bad
tepid light
yeah nemesis sword is kind of eh visually
formal sinew
I have a question
swift inlet
Is it a katana or not
formal sinew
It's a katana
snow skiff
it still looks like a pool noodle
hardy spear
poseiden asect looks weird
swift inlet
It's my favorite weapon low key but still doesn't look too great
formal sinew
Also. What kind of bow aspect is best for high heats
warm nimbus
rama
snow skiff
rama > zag > hera > chiron
snow skiff
zagbow is just damage plain and simple
swift inlet
Most fun bow no cap
formal sinew
Yeah I guessed as much. Ramas shared pain with hangover is ridiculously good
warm nimbus
rama > zag > hera > chiron
rama > zag >> hera > chiron
mint coral
rama > zag > hera > chiron
I think hera and chiron are tied
snow skiff
also wtf is wrong with you
a lot of things are wrong with me, actually
formal sinew
Why is zag over hera
mint coral
Both play bad zag anyways
tepid light
nemesis just looks tacky
the squarish blade shape, the engravings on the blade
warm nimbus
Why is zag over hera
hera not good at high heat
formal sinew
Oh
latent moon
Why is zag over hera
Big crits are good
warm nimbus
it struggles a lot with dc/js/cp/em4/ri/ap
snow skiff
Both play bad zag anyways
my logic is hera 50 plays far nicer than chiron 50
formal sinew
Makes sense. I abused heras one with crush shot
mint coral
Why is zag over hera
Losing your casts every 5 seconds cuz cant kill anything with it
formal sinew
Fair
warm nimbus
beo is much better at high heat as a castspect
formal sinew
I love shield
signal aspen
talos tho
formal sinew
Imagine Hades being salty
snow skiff
beo is much better at high heat as a castspect
poseidon 🔥
formal sinew
Because boiling blood fails
warm nimbus
as it can take em4 a lot better and cp better somewhat
mint coral
poseidon 🔥
Bad nem
warm nimbus
and its casts dont lodge lol
snow skiff
can't take routine inspection 3 though L
mint coral
But also based before castpects suffer
tepid light
so is the cycle with poseidon just cast - special - cast - special
warm nimbus
can't take routine inspection 3 though L
true thats why its worse than chaos
signal aspen
and its casts dont lodge lol
but then you cant get boiling blood!!! 😧
snow skiff
absolutely chaos. chaos is by far the best shield aspect and dont let anyone
mint coral
true thats why its worse than chaos
The fact Angel made this a reality
warm nimbus
so is the cycle with poseidon just cast - special - cast - special
yeah for the most part
swift inlet
Hades spear best weapon on god
snow skiff
no the cycle with poseidon is you run merciful end
tepid light
yeah for the most part
that sounds clunky and boring imo
warm nimbus
unless you play it like bad nem which is probably better lol
snow skiff
lightning phalanx goes hard
mint coral
that sounds clunky and boring imo
Casts are fun
warm nimbus
or hell even zag sword is better
mint coral
And i get to avoid sword so 💪
signal aspen
as a poseidon sword main the combo for pos sword is dstrike -> dstrike -> special
warm nimbus
The fact Angel made this a reality <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
i know and i love it so much
^^
snow skiff
poseidon suck because dislodge cast loses boiling blood
signal aspen
or do special first
warm nimbus
just play nem or zag sword dont play poseidon
its the least interesting sword aspect imo
snow skiff
play arthur arthur is tolerable
mint coral
Poseidon 🤝 Arthur
Being used to avoid sword
snow skiff
its the least interesting sword aspect imo
i mean dislodging bloodstones sounds very nice on paper
just that it falls flat in practice
warm nimbus
yeah which is why it sucks
tepid light
person below me has to do shield using only special on their next run
signal aspen
ok
warm nimbus
cflight beo isnt bad
snow skiff
zeus blitz disc solo
signal aspen
ill just play zeus
mint coral
person below me has to do shield using only special on their next run
Does a zeus shield run
:croven:
signal aspen
best part is i dont play hades anymore
tepid light
no casts
warm nimbus
ill just play zeus
post the dad fight to reddit so people can tell you to use attack
snow skiff
best part is i dont play hades anymore
doesn't play hades but wastes hours at a time on sggcord
signal aspen
hey
warm nimbus
lol
tepid light
gottem
tepid light
play this PantsGrab
warm nimbus
idk i might play it again
play modded
signal aspen
no
warm nimbus
get the sub6 for beo week
signal aspen
thats not even hades anymore
smh
what even is hades if you dont get frustrated after 30 mins of playing
warm nimbus
thats not even hades anymore
yeah youre right its basically cheat engine
snow skiff
download codex menu and give yourself an entire build in c1
signal aspen
ill just keep playing until my save stops saving
and then get a new one
and do it again
snow skiff
does that actually happen
signal aspen
yeah
warm nimbus
signal aspen
knew it
signal aspen
cheat engine
warm nimbus
what's with the tiny icon
wide image
tepid light
i'm confused
warm nimbus
i put that right above you smh
patent mesa
yeah but that was game guardian
warm nimbus
oh true
snow skiff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661812833771847703/1011352425036259458/...
ello is literally cheat engine no way
rotund galleon
what's the fastest way to farm 0 heat with dark thirst?
Thanatos keepsake for damage?
warm nimbus
no, thanatos keepsake sucks
mint coral
Def not butterfly
rotund galleon
but damage
mint coral
Consider actually gettinga build
warm nimbus
choose a good build for whatever weapon you are using and use god keepsakes to force it
mint coral
Just run your fav weapon and add some poseidon-chaos for big darkness
warm nimbus
^^
mint coral
Also dont consider dark thirst much
mint coral
20% aint nothing compared to a chaos boon
warm nimbus
what
rotund galleon
I need darkness
warm nimbus
yeah its 20%
mint coral
Chaos can go up to 100%
rotund galleon
20% is a lot when you need 14k more
warm nimbus
which will make like a 6% difference with chaos and poseidon lol
warm nimbus
also if you really want to get it as fast as possible its worth just doing something consistently fast like beo every time
rotund galleon
I can practically run most weapons fast
warm nimbus
but beo for 15 runs in a row isnt exactly enticing
rotund galleon
so dark thirst is important
mint coral
Also should use the speedrun pact
warm nimbus
^^
mint coral
So em2 + fo2 + td
mint coral
Survival rooms wont help grinding darkness
rotund galleon
I need to test whether EM A&T dies faster or not
mint coral
- asterius spin wasting time
signal aspen
Yellow Theseus dies faster for sure
no
warm nimbus
Yellow Theseus dies faster for sure
also def not
he has more hp + its harder to hit him
mint coral
How much hp they gain with em3 again
signal aspen
i think he has the same health
mint coral
Oh
warm nimbus
i think he has the same health
nah i think its more
signal aspen
maybe not
rotund galleon
I am fairly certain I kill yellow Theseus faster than normal
warm nimbus
yeah its 12000 instead of 9000
according to the wiki
which ill give 93% confidence to
mint coral
Bypassing the shield isnt exactly the hardest thing
rotund galleon
it's not but he is still easier to hit with the chariot
warm nimbus
it's not but he is still easier to hit with the chariot
no hes not lol
rotund galleon
and he looks dumber
mint coral
Thats a fact
warm nimbus
he zooms around the arena
mint coral
But not worth for faster runs
rotund galleon
chasing him is easy tho
signal aspen
if you are playing something like sword and dash towards him you will get hit by a bomb/ by his chariot
mint coral
I love having to predict cast to which place he is going just to apply boiling blood
warm nimbus
yeah
or cshotless beo just missing most of your casts
or luci where he literally just doesnt even go near your special
is there any weapon where it is actually easy to hit him lol
hestia?
signal aspen
gilgamesh
warm nimbus
ive never played gilga so i dont even know to what degree that statement is incorrect lol
signal aspen
its probably the worst weapon for em3 tbh
mint coral
I mean you dash a lot
warm nimbus
honestly sometimes on luci em3 i just give up trying to use the special lol
mint coral
What is a special
snow skiff
is there any weapon where it is actually easy to hit him lol
poseidon
strong ridge
is there any weapon where it is actually easy to hit him lol
eris supremacy
strong ridge
zoos atk ezpz
tepid light
thank god that theseus is an egomaniacal blowhard who pauses to bask in the crowd and allows you to wail on him for 5 seconds straight
safe tinsel
Lmao
formal sinew
Anyone who says chariot is harder doesn't know how slow each missile is
raw herald
FO2
formal sinew
As for the machine guns, they only go along both axis so just follow behind
I use Exagryph alot so for me dashing and spamming fire from behind was so easy
tepid light
I mean yeah it's easier with ranged weapons
But with melee ones, you have to watch out for the bombs, the machine guns, and the chariot itself
So it's a hernia and a half
mint coral
@quiet ice fury is personal preference but tis can be a lot slower on bad builds
Most hp of the bunch + the screen transitions are longer
quiet ice
yeah that makes sense
mint coral
But most of the time it wont make such a difference
quiet ice
What's a good fast sword build?
latent moon
ME nem lmao
quiet ice
I feel like you could really move fast with nemesis
mint coral
ME unmodded
latent moon
Other that that probably heart rend nem
latent moon
Yeah it's def possible
quiet ice
I wouldve gotten sub 10 with early satyr sack there tbf
mint coral
Ah i should specify
quiet ice
or at least pretty close
latent moon
Oh yeah pray for 2 sack lol
quiet ice
Dedge is a sword hammer, right?
latent moon
Double edge
quiet ice
double edge. the one that makes your thrust hit twice?
latent moon
Dash strike hits twice
quiet ice
yeah
latent moon
Thrust and dash strike are technically different lol
Cruel thrust exists and it doesn't apply to dash strike
quiet ice
even though the dash strike is basically a thrust
mint coral
Other builds can be crit nem, tidal dash, shackle start into whatever attack etc
mint coral
Dash strike hits twice
And +20% dash strike dmg
quiet ice
wait cruel thrust doesn't apply to dash strike?
mint coral
No
latent moon
And +20% dash strike dmg <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Yeah was too lazy to type that
quiet ice
can you get both at the same time though?
and one just cancels the other?
because I could swear I've gotten both before
latent moon
I mean you can get both, cruel thrust just doesn't give you the bonus damage to dash strike
mint coral
Dedge is only dash strikes, cruel is 3rd hit of the combo only
They dont interact at all
latent moon
The thrust is part of the normal atk combo
quiet ice
oh wow I wish I'd know that before lol
latent moon
Nem atk Arthur gaming
quiet ice
so what's the best attack to put on nemesis
latent moon
Aphro or arty if you're not doing ME
quiet ice
artemis is what I usually go for
latent moon
Just put the other on the special and you're good to go
quiet ice
and then heart rend is the go to
latent moon
Yeah
mint coral
When it doubt can probably flat dmg soup it
latent moon
Zeus atk?
mint coral
Just get a bunch of flat dmg + rd
latent moon
Flat damage soup tasty
quiet ice
what is souping
tepid light
rd?
tepid light
that's the one that increases damage based on speed, yeah
i've only taken that one once i think
very rarely been offered it
mint coral
Need hyper sprint-greater haste-plume to be offered so makes sense
tepid light
ah
mint coral
And only 2 hermes boons normally (and 50/50 for styx hermes)
lean timber
normalize greater haste rd
mint coral
Also taking calls before 2 hermes boons makes rd/dashes chances worse
mint coral
normalize greater haste rd
No
signal aspen
RD overrated side hustle underrated
tepid light
can't decide whether i like sprint or haste more
mint coral
Haste is for cope
lean timber
RD overrated side hustle underrated
ong
signal aspen
Sprint is always better than haste
tepid light
i just want to go fast so that asterius doesn't headbutt me into oblivion
lean timber
um actually two ichors is 44% speed boost, NOT 40%! 🤓
mint coral
Even better
tepid light
Or just go arthur and tank everything like a boss
mint coral
If i get hit i cant do big swing tho
tepid light
sturdy 4head
signal aspen
Imagine playing arthur
tepid light
skill diff
signal aspen
Skill issue
tepid light
ayyyy
signal aspen
🗿
latent moon
Last time i played arthur i lost due to switch crashing
You had arty atk didn't you and just one shot a lernie phase didn't you lmao
tepid light
glorious
signal aspen
Arty attack Arthur 🗿
tepid light
feels so good
mint coral
You had arty atk didn't you and just one shot a lernie phase didn't you lmao
Aphro pretty sure
Il die before i run arte atk again
Yeah was a common pp crit lmao
warm nimbus
@quiet ice you have the game on steam, yeah?
quiet ice
yes
warm nimbus
alright then its really simple
quiet ice
I'm actually gonna take off for now, I've got covid and I'm getting dizzy sitting here
warm nimbus
alrighty
quiet ice
Is there a pinned comment somewhere in this discord with a guide?
warm nimbus
but first i need to use the modpasta ive made
if you want to download the speedrunning modpack it is available at https://www.speedrun.com/hades/resources
all of its features can be toggled on or off and it includes:
- guaranteed 2 sack
- guaranteed first hammer
- first boon offers all 4 core boons
- removes tiny vermin, asterius, and barge of death minibosses
- shows fountain rooms
there are also a few qol features such as a quick reset feature and the ability to toggle hell mode, as well as a colorblind mode.
instructions for downloading the modpack are in the file "instructions.txt" in the modpack folder
quiet ice
oh wow i didn't think that would fall under inappropriate language, my bad
patent mesa
sgg's treatment of hell mode is kinda mind boggling imo
patent mesa
is it done
quiet ice
removes barge of death??? okay I'm in
patent mesa
lmao
humble acorn
barge sucks
mint coral
removes barge of death??? okay I'm in
Hate for barge is universal
Unless you are a heat player
Then is aight
warm nimbus
yeah in high heat hate for barge becomes hate for power couple
signal aspen
Power couple is honestly not that bad
warm nimbus
I legit loathe them
also same ive lost so many 50 runs to them
probably not as many as lernie but still quite a few
tepid light
ah, the gorgon head and the cyclops?
warm nimbus
its a crusher but yeah
they suck with mm
mm barge is epic and easy though
and so cool
mint coral
2 against 1
im chill with power couple
warm nimbus
being able to be stunlocked into 80 damage is such bs
lean timber
yeah it's honestly not terrible the trick to them is not getting hit
warm nimbus
i hate dc witches tho
dc witches easy on eris
tepid light
yeah it's honestly not terrible the trick to them is not getting hit
4head
signal aspen
I can't remember the last time I died to power couple
warm nimbus
yeah because you havent played hades in like 5 months
tepid light
i never really die to them but i very often come out with a lot less hp than i'd like to
tepid light
yeah because you havent played hades in like 5 months
gottem
signal aspen
It's been 1 month
tepid light
clearly i think he's never played hades at all and is just trying to trick us
signal aspen
Yeah I've never played
warm nimbus
dude omg why are 4 note low bpm bursts so hard
like 2 notes and 6 notes? easy
but something about 4 makes me just fingerlock and miss and drop acc
they should be weighted so much higher
sorry that was completely unrelated to hades anyways yeah power couple sucks
it literally just takes a few hits and youre dead
patent mesa
one bad dash = stunned then 60d from crusher
warm nimbus
isnt it 80
lean timber
i know the shockwave is 40 idk abt anything else
tardy shard
tepid light
em4 dad continues to kick my ass
but it's nice having something to learn and a challenge to beat
tepid light
WHY IS THIS FIGHT SO HARD AAAAA
covert bobcat
This is the strength that slew the titans
tepid light
True
near knot
anyone know any save editors for the game ive beaten it and have done everything i want to do in it i just want to mess with my save and have fun
patent mesa
signal aspen
whats this
signal aspen
modding server pinned in #self-promotion might have some stuff about that
near knot
i just wanna mess with my save and just mess with my game one last time
warm nimbus
https://imgur.com/5lHEGMX bruh
I’m not sure dude, personally I’ve completed 32+ heat numerous times, there isn’t a situation where I wouldn’t take divine dash. Except for a few specific scenarios, divine dash is undoubtedly the best, most versatile dash boon that the game has to offer. Me and the most voted contributor to this post are on the same wavelength, 85% is simply too low for what has got to be the best boon in the game.
patent mesa
the more I play high heat the more I strongly believe that dio dash is one of the best
I know it sounds crazy
but I think it's top 4
signal aspen
it has none of the safety from divine dash and it has none of the damage from tidal dash
warm nimbus
and then theres like ares at number 4
patent mesa
but it strips DC and builds god gauge insanely fast
warm nimbus
so it literally cant be top 4
signal aspen
and doesnt have the god gauge building of blade dash
patent mesa
I remember I had an arthur 50 that almost worked
and it was carried by a last minute drunken dash that helped build calls like there was no tomorrow
warm nimbus
drunken dash... might? be better than dem dash
patent mesa
I think that's the case now
patent mesa
people say aphro's is good but I've never liked it at all
warm nimbus
i honestly hate aphro dash but good weak applier so i think its better
signal aspen
its a tiny radius but its decent damage and applies weak
warm nimbus
whats the god im missing
patent mesa
arty
signal aspen
zeus?
patent mesa
too niche imo
patent mesa
ok no more discording
warm nimbus
because jolted exists
patent mesa
wish me styx luck
signal aspen
wish me styx luck
no
warm nimbus
arty
also arty is top 3
so drunken dash #7 out of 8
what an amazing dash boon
actually yknow what im going to say dem dash is better
it applies chill
warm nimbus
yeah exactly
patent mesa
warm nimbus
common does literally nothing except tickle the enemies
patent mesa
well I already got calculated risk randomly so too much boon luck already
almost tempted to roll
signal aspen
roll for what
warm nimbus
almost tempted to roll
do it
signal aspen
why did you even buy a boon
patent mesa
broken resolve would be nice
signal aspen
are there like no poms there
patent mesa
there are but I wanted aphro and heart
signal aspen
what can you get from aphro
patent mesa
broken resolve was what I was after
warm nimbus
hey are either of you willing to make my spectroscopy presentation for me
patent mesa
ok no more discording for real
signal aspen
hey are either of you willing to make my spectroscopy presentation for me
yeah sure
signal aspen
will they accept it in video form
warm nimbus
nah i just need the slides
signal aspen
ok nvm
warm nimbus
damn
also fun fact its called ultraviolet light because its like right below purple in wavelength
crazy
warm nimbus
well yeah those are like bottom 3 dashes
raw herald
Purpe
lean timber
do not care what color they are
lean timber
they are stinky
warm nimbus
bruh not 50 arthur
brisk trail
Purpe
lean timber
that's true
lean timber
let's gooooo swift
midnight apex
Can you have multiple duo boons at the same time?
I have mericful end rn. can i get unshakeable mettle without it erasing my merciful end
warm nimbus
Can you have multiple duo boons at the same time?
yes
midnight apex
ty sorry havent played in a while
on an insane pace run right now
finished elysium in 7:48
tepid light
finally beat dad with spear on em4
midnight apex
praying on a 2 room satyr sack otherwise i might quit
midnight apex
just pb'ed by 50 seconds with FOUR SATYR ROOMS
it would have been a sub 10 min if it was 2
11:08
austere loom
just pb'ed by 50 seconds with FOUR SATYR ROOMS
I've been getting good Satyr RNG
always got the sack in 2 rooms
austere loom
nice
tepid light
GO SOAK YOUR HEAD, DAD
austere loom
man, that Arthur dialogue is backed up in Nyx's list
austere loom
I want to unlock Lucifer
but I kinda don't want to use the gun rn
also I want to get through my runs so I can talk to Nyx again
but my pride doesn't allow me to lose
on purpose
austere loom
I know
but I'm feeling kinda tired rn
man Aspect of demeter is p fun
got a bunch of Chaos boons to buff the special
brisk trail
Chaos....
latent moon
EM4 BEATEN WITH ALL WEAPONS
Now do it again but with FO1 or 2 lmao
latent moon
Could do tight deadline 1 instead for 11 heat
strong ridge
stunlocking hades with aphro attack and legendary aphro boon
enemies coming out of charm will use the attack they were charmed on twice
tepid light
enemies coming out of charm will use the attack they were charmed on twice
i noticed, but a charm at the right moment means i can get my attacks in and dash out safely
strong ridge
jst felt worth mentioning since it can cost like 200hp
tepid light
yeah it's an important point
i noticed it when hades did his spin attack three times in a row
tepid light
Could do tight deadline 1 instead for 11 heat
tight deadline makes me nervous, i just prefer jury summons because the impact isn't too high
strong ridge
if ur doing em4 im sure you can at least manage td2
td3 can feel tight at first but its plenty
td1 is 9 min/biome and td2 is 7 per
tepid light
eh
i still feel more comfortable with jury
if the impact isn't huge either way, i might as well use the one that i prefer, no?
strong ridge
js has big implications for whenver you try td
no js would make td more approachable
but ydy
tepid light
i mean i can just switch out the modifiers
strong ridge
right
tepid light
i don't have to use both at the same time