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latent yacht
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non-native English speaker here

lean timber
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syzyf

tepid light
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epic thunder flourish with chiron

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this is gonna be fun

latent yacht
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i died to Hades

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aaaaaaaa

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on 32 heat

latent moon
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internal cooldowns go brrr

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it'll only hit like twice or something

tepid light
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that's disappointing to know

mint coral
tepid light
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but i can still work with it

mint coral
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you got there once now do it again

latent moon
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yeah it's not terrible, just kinda sad

mint coral
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🔫dusa

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wow got a duo boon in tart!

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(is parting shot)

latent moon
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that's a stonks moment

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440 gold or something right

mint coral
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4 mins out of tart bouldy

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got hammer at end shop

latent moon
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based

mint coral
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also i should've done artemis special

latent moon
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if you have exploding launcher on the spear are you actually stabbing stuff

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because when i played guan yu i just did not care about the atk

mint coral
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probably to finish off an enemy

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but otherwise i just spam exploding too

latent yacht
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i just rerolled boons

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and got the exact same 3 boons

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why tf does it work like that

latent moon
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it do be like that

mint coral
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it normally blocks 1 option so it couldnt have been the exact same thanthink

lean timber
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do you have proof of your claim

tepid light
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so, just to clarify

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lightning rod only works if the collectible is just sitting on the ground uncollected, right

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or does it also shock enemies who have the cast stuck inside them

signal aspen
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only if it is sitting on the ground

tepid light
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that seems

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kind of bad

latent moon
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it's free damage

tepid light
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unless there's something i'm missing here

signal aspen
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nah

latent moon
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the casts are harder to pick up so it stays on the ground longer

signal aspen
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it scales with zeus boons too

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so if you are playing on a non cast weapon

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you will usually stick one cast in the enemy if you need to

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and then throw your other two casts on the ground

tepid light
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i guess it just goes against my instinct to instantly go pick up the casts

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even if i'm not doing a cast-centric build, i'd prefer to just use them whenever i can

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rather than let them just

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sit there

thin cypress
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lol good one KEKW

signal aspen
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thanks

latent moon
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Np

lean timber
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GET AWAY FROM ME

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YOU DON'T PLAY THIS GAME

pulsar hemlock
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This is just BS. So many runs and I just CAN'T get this friggin' boon .-.

icy knoll
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which boon?

pulsar hemlock
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Rip current from Poseidon

icy knoll
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you have to have his call first

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use poseidon keepsake and rerolls

pulsar hemlock
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Sometimes I can I get Poseidon 5 times in a row without getting his call

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Lik,e FFS

icy knoll
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then reroll the boons

pulsar hemlock
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Just did. Still not getting it.

icy knoll
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not getting the call or not getting the boon?

pulsar hemlock
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Not getting the call

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2 Poseidon rooms and 2 reroll and 0 calls 🙃

icy knoll
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well just keep on trying

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the first boon is guaranteed to not be a call, you should probably know that

lean timber
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except in one single scripted interaction

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call is forced in one of your first runs and never again

manic bobcat
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also Lightning Rod used to be A LOT worse lul

modern tusk
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I’m gonna 1v1 Artemis I swear

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Gimme the aspect

spice hare
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how long does weakness last

pulsar hemlock
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4 seconds, I think? 🤔

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There's a boon that increases it by 5 seconds, though

austere loom
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what are some good gun builds?

pulsar hemlock
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Can't I use summon against the final boss? 🤔

latent moon
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Story stuff, some of them won't attack their boss

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Eventually you can tho

latent moon
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If you're feeling spicy you could do ME

austere loom
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but I already did that though

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ME?

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ah

latent moon
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Merciful end

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Oh I forgot the thing I said doesn't really apply to hestia lmao

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That's just aphro atk and have fun

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Arty dash

austere loom
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scintillating feast works with trippy flare, right?

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the wiki doesn't list it

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but I just assume

warm nimbus
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yeah it does

austere loom
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how does ME gun build work?

rustic vale
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You use rail like a melee aspect

tepid light
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1749 DARKNESS OUT OF 1750 NEEDED

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AAAAAAAAAAAA

latent moon
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For what lmao

tepid light
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Fated Authority upgrades

rustic vale
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Isn’t authority the useless one

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I just checked it is

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I use my darkness on rank ipgrades instead

tepid light
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It probably is, but I'm just upgrading it fully for the sake of completion

latent moon
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Complete the rank upgrades instead lmao

rustic vale
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Why would I waste a few thousand darkness on authority

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I need 325000 for all the rank upgrade if hades wiki is correct

tepid light
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The rank upgrades? As in, the cosmetic upgrades from the resource director?

rustic vale
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Yes

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Obviously those take priority over fated authority

tepid light
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Uh huh

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Yeah I'm pretty ok with spending darkness on fated authority

rustic vale
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I’m in no rush to level authority when there are infinitely more useful things like pure cosmetics to buy

tepid light
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Well, I've found authority useful enough, but you do you I guess

rustic vale
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Persuasion >>>>> authority

latent moon
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Authority is good for meme builds like hp/gold/pom runs

rustic vale
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I would use authority only if persuasion didn’t exist

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Or I guess a meme run like that

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hoarding slash obol hoarding gaming zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv

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It’s not like those obols could’ve been used to buy more useful things

tepid light
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Tbh I didn't realize the alternate talents existed until I'd already devoted a lot of darkness into the first talent chart

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So by now I've just decided 'eh, I'll just max these out'

rustic vale
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I have every mirror upgrade except for authority maxxed hehheeheheheh

tepid light
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Suit yourself, I suppose

rustic vale
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I mean if I was actually ever going to use it I might put levels into it

signal aspen
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Authority is better if you don't want boons

rustic vale
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But I don’t see it out weighing the usefulness of persuasion

tepid light
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Well, I'm using it

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So

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I don't feel bad about ranking it up

rustic vale
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I would like to know why you are using it over persuasion though

tepid light
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Because, as I mentioned above, I didn't realize the alternate talents existed until well after I'd already put a lot of darkness into the first talent tree

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So I've just decided to finish up ranking the first tree to the max

rustic vale
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can’t you just reset mirror for like a key

tepid light
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As of now, authority is the only one I have left on the first tree

rustic vale
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And get your darkness back

tepid light
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Sure, but completionist instinct

rustic vale
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I guess

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We’re both kinda doing the same thing just prioritising different things at different times

tepid light
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I am making no argument as to whether or not authority is good or not

latent moon
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Are you at least using persuasion while upgrading authority

tepid light
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But it's what I've been using so far just by chance

tepid light
rustic vale
latent moon
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See now there's the issue lmao

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I get the completionist idea, but you can still use the good side while upgrading the other one

rustic vale
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Like using whatever it’s called over olympian favour

latent moon
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Use a key, get the good mirror upgrades, then whatever you have left spend it on the other side

latent moon
tepid light
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Well at this point my authority is one off from max rank while my persuasion has no darkness devoted to it at all

So I'd prefer to use the talent that's better ranked up

rustic vale
latent moon
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Aren't they technically the same darkness amount

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I think

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The wiki has the values

rustic vale
latent moon
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wait fated persuasion is cheaper than authority lmfao

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by 1k

rustic vale
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Wait persuasion is 10000 to max versus 11000 authority

latent moon
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dark foresight is also cheaper than olympian favor

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Ff cheaper than PS

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are all the good mirror alternatives cheaper than their counterpart lmao

tepid light
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Look, here's what I'll say: you guys are probably perfectly right that by comparison, persuasion is infinitely better than authority. But speaking as a new player who has been only using authority so far and has no frame of reference, I don't feel any urge to change my course (especially since at this point authority is one rank away from max), so I might as well just finish up what I've been doing already, then explore the alternate talents

latent moon
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gonna be a pain in the ass to upgrade the alternate talents but aight bouldy

rustic vale
tepid light
rustic vale
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But you can rearrange your mirror to make it better and then upgrade the other stuff

latent moon
latent moon
rustic vale
tepid light
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Eh, I suppose you're right

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I just once again don't feel a huge need to do so

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I don't feel like I'm suffering so far

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Despite my choice of talent maxing

latent moon
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i mean if you're farming darkness you're probably doing low heat aren't you

tepid light
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I'm at heat 9 bounties atm, yes

rustic vale
snow skiff
latent moon
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fair

rustic vale
tepid light
latent moon
# tepid light I'm at heat 9 bounties atm, yes

until a certain point, nearly any mirror can get you through runs, you're probably good enough at the game where it doesn't really matter yet. at some point it will tho, and that's when you'll realize that the mirror matters

rustic vale
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you can have an easier more enjoyable time with a better mirror is what I’m trying to push here

latent moon
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also some of the mirror upgrades, you won't really notice at all

signal aspen
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Idk what you guys are going on about I just play without a mirror

latent moon
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olympian favor vs dark foresight, you probably won't consciously be thinking about it

rustic vale
latent moon
rustic vale
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Ri4 is as free as dc64 is on arthur

signal aspen
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Ri4 free heat just don't get hit

tepid light
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yes, i could reset it using a key

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but imo i'm so close at this point

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that i might as well just finish up

pallid hull
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Hey gamers, I want to buy this game, but I have a question, does it have any exclusivity?

I mean exclusive skins/rewards/content for beta/demo/time-limited events/preorder?

latent moon
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nope

pallid hull
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Was there any reward for playing Early Access or if I buy the game today I will not miss anything?

latent moon
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you're not gonna miss out on anything

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the only thing you're missing out on is early access gameplay/balances

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but that's just how every game you download is gonna be

pallid hull
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I hate games if there are some rewards like for pre-order or battle pass or ingame events and I will never get them just because I started playing the game not at specific time or date
Thank you, buying it right now

latent moon
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oh also the devs are completely finished with the game, so there's an extremely low chance of any dlcs

pallid hull
latent moon
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yeah

pallid hull
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Thank you

void vigil
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other than things that have changed and are no longer in the game, yeah

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but dont worry about that stuff

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i wouldnt count it as exclusive content or rewards, rather cut content

pallid hull
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For example

void vigil
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for example powers that function differently now or areas that look better now

pallid hull
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You mean just game fixes/balance/updates?

latent moon
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yep

void vigil
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sort of

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yeah

latent moon
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iirc early access was more like, the devs asking players how the game felt and them making changes accordingly

pallid hull
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It is ok, I'm afraid of skins or other cosmetics stuff

void vigil
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yeah nothing like that

latent moon
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there's no exclusive stuff in the game

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everything in the game is obtainable by just playing for a while

pallid hull
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Thank you dudes

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👍

austere loom
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ok just won with a pretty good Hera bow build with Crush shot

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got the extra cast, Hermes' quicker drops and a couple boosts to the main attacck

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Wanted to win with hestia rifle too

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but I feel like my damage was abit too low

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need more titan blood

latent moon
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what level is your hesty?

austere loom
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2 or 3

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I'm relatively early in the game

latent moon
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oh yeah the empowered shot is kinda terrible at low level

austere loom
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at what point does it get good enough

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4 and 5?

latent moon
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yeah

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3 might be fine, base 100 isn't terrible

austere loom
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it was good for mobs

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especially with Ares' boon that buffs your next attack after a kill

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but felt lacking for bosses and Elysium big guys

latent moon
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oh yeah that's great for normal rooms

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i mean it's still a safe aspect to play it just takes longer i guess

austere loom
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in meme beam builds

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is Cold embrace just as valid as crystal clarity?

latent moon
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cold embrace is the one where the beam follows you right

austere loom
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yeah

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and bonus damage

latent moon
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from a completely neutral perspective considering i've never played either of them, i'd say crystal clarity is much better because you just have to place it down and it'll do it's job, you wont have to put yourself in an awkward position to get the beam right

latent moon
austere loom
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30

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I guess the aim is much better for safety reasons

latent moon
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oh also if you're doing meme beam, use stygian soul and hope you get good poms on glacial glare

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you can get a lot down if you get a lot of poms on glare

latent moon
tepid light
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how does demeter cast work with aspect of hera, out of curiosity

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i've never tried it

latent moon
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drops the crystal at the end of the shot, not worth it

tepid light
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yeah that's what i figured

latent moon
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equivalent of dashing to where the shot landed and dropping a cast there

tepid light
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pity it doesn't work the same way as the flares with beowulf

latent moon
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trippy shot becomes trippy flare on hera but that's about it

tepid light
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huh

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didn't know that

latent moon
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but yeah demeter cast should become a flare for hera but oh well

tepid light
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aphrodite or dionysus casts would be best for hera, right?

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in terms of damage

latent moon
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apho is gonna be more consistent so you wont have to rely on chaos

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but yeah you are right

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if you want to use dio use stygian soul

tepid light
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i had a lot of fun with aphrodite hera

latent moon
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just pray for a noncommon cast

tepid light
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ares cast

latent moon
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lmao based

pallid hull
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Was there any event ingame like new year or halloween?

austere loom
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if I went into higher heat but not high enough to get new rewards

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are the darkness rewards bigger?

tepid light
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heat requirements increase by 1 each time you clear, so i don't see how you're in a situation where you're somehow not having enough heat while still increasing the amount

austere loom
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just a hypothetical

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if for some reason I wanted to farm more darkness

manic bobcat
austere loom
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huh

manic bobcat
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you can farm by taking +resources boons, troves, etc. so lower heat is generally better

austere loom
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so if I want to farm darkness, 0 heat it is

manic bobcat
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though if you really want to optimize farming

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try 9-12 heat, the speedrun strat :D

austere loom
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why those

latent moon
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em2 puts hydra heads closer together so faster to navigate, fo2 makes enemies spawn faster

austere loom
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I see

manic bobcat
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so you take
Extreme Measure 2 (Hydras heads are closer so you clear faster)
Tight Deadline 1 (Eliminates 45s survival rooms)
Forced Overtime (optional so enemies spawn faster)

austere loom
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also any spear build ideas?

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I think I like the spear least

latent moon
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pray for exploding launcher and spam the special lol

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that or classic ME

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or hunting blades on achilles

austere loom
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I have no good idea on how to utilize either aspect

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hunting blades eh

manic bobcat
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this is very jank but fun

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you need crit and massive spin

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and just dont run forced overtime

latent moon
void vigil
acoustic bolt
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so i just tried EM4 for the first time on 23 heat with nemesis

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just

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wow

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got him down to half on the last bar

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i had heart rend, sea storm, hyper rush, epic splash dash, epic jolt and full death defies

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ow

austere loom
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ah man

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so close with actually clearing with a hestia buil

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died when he was at 30

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bad luck when he started shooting lasers

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did clear with a hera build, got lucky when Chaos gave me both +1 cast and +66% cast damage

deft canyon
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Okay taking from Charon is a mistake

brisk trail
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Hahahah

deft canyon
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He hits harder then bads

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Hades

brisk trail
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Yes. He’s pretty tough.

deft canyon
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This guy damn

brisk trail
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The first time I took the money I was unprepared and a noob.

deft canyon
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His haaaaaaahg

brisk trail
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Did you kill him? Or did you die?

deft canyon
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I died

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Cause i never fought him

austere loom
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Charon isn't actually that bad

brisk trail
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Wanna know what you get when you beat him or na?

austere loom
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he hits hard af but he's rather easy to avoid

deft canyon
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And the theme

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U know je got the drip now to kick your ass.

brisk trail
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Zagreus: snacks some money
Charon: „heuuuuugHHHHHH“ proceeds to turn into goldmine

austere loom
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he spends all that money on drip

brisk trail
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Godmode*

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Tf wrong with my autocorrection.

austere loom
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anywya

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gotta rest

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my neck's starting to strain

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had some good runs, had some bad runs

deft canyon
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His theme is legit in the boss fight drip

austere loom
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man

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every time I want to go for a cast build

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my first boon is never a cast

brisk trail
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I LITERALLY SPEND 2 minutes WRITING THAT JOKE AND DINO BOT DELETES IT IN 1 SECOND. 😭😭😭

deft canyon
brisk trail
spice hare
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man, how come i can beat theseus no problem but hades wiped all my revives clean

safe tinsel
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Tough luck oof

brisk trail
silk river
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Howdy

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It's fun when I'm just working my way through my prophecies and I complete my first run on a fist with heavy attacks...

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Seriously they are so slow but with Aphrodite boon. They be chunking

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Oh yeah and I only got 1 DD unlocked.

austere loom
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need more titan blood

thin cypress
lean timber
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go away.

brisk trail
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I’m just wondering if Theseus and Zagreus are cousins or not since in some iterations of Theseus’ backstory he’s the son of Poseidon

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which would mean him and zag are technically cousins

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ofc not sure if that’s the canon in hades

austere loom
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it's actually been mentioned in the game

brisk trail
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really?

austere loom
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Poseidon refers to it as Zeus joking around

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calling Theseus his(Poseidon) son for being such a good warrior

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Poseidon isn't amused

brisk trail
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surfer dude uncle isn’t having any of it

silk river
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I really like the line between dionysus and zag

austere loom
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man, hunting blades is one of the most elusive duo boons

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my ares cast build turned into a beatdown build

austere loom
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okay

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I take it back, Achilles spear is super good

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now my least favorite is the fist

latent yacht
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how much worse is Ares aid than Zeus/Dio?

raw herald
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Very much so

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Mediocre damage, makes you unable to attack for the duration

deft canyon
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I first laughed when i saw Charon

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And then the drip

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But then he dealt 25 damage per hit (Weak debuff and that mirror skill btw) and i qas like "WOAH DUDE CHILL"

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His drip killed me.

lean timber
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yeah he does 50 base

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two hits is pretty much an instakill in tartarus

austere loom
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good thing he's rather predictable

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not easy but predictable

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but I'd rather take him on if I have decent damage

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otherwise I wouldn't dare

lean timber
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he's slow enough and strong enough that you can accidentally double dash out of fear to avoid the first swing and then take the 2nd full on

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at least i used to do that

strong ridge
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charon breakpoints enrage me

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man fullstops ur combo the make u do dance dance revolution hades edition

rustic vale
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50% of the time I see him in tart I’ll fight him anyways because I want his card and feel I can take him

lean timber
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i could take charon

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[said with a suspicious aura]

ivory perch
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there is a super dad form right?

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from the pact

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somehow I didnt unlock it

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how though

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I thought complete epilogue will unlock

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but it didnt

void vigil
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you need to buy it from the contractor

ivory perch
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oh that one

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I see

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I thought its something about inferno trove

void vigil
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extremer measures

ivory perch
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I know, thx

rustic vale
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EM4

ivory perch
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super dad lets gooo

austere loom
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thoughts on God's legacy over the alternative?

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(10% higher epic chance vs like 10% more Legendary or Duo chance)

signal aspen
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gods pride is almost always better

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and it also goes up to 20%

austere loom
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that's the epic, I assume?

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must have misremembered, maxed it out too

signal aspen
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yeah the epic

austere loom
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figured

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I think I'm just annoyed at hunting blades evading me

shy fable
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which duo boons are better? of course getting EA early is nice but what else

austere loom
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depends

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Hunting blades is good for Ares casting obv

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scintillating feast and Ice wine are good for trippy flare

shy fable
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true true, i really like playing with ice wine

austere loom
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Merciful End if you can switch between the triggers quick

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like attack with ares attack and trigger with Athena special

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also Artemis+Dio seems good

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if you can stack up Hangover quick

shy fable
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i see i see

mint coral
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ME is also stupid

austere loom
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quick question for smoldering air

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does the whole gauge cap at 25

shy fable
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for now i still gotta get all the duos for the prophecy so i won't hurry lol

austere loom
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or just the charging?

mint coral
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whole gauge

austere loom
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ohh

mint coral
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but most calls dont use full calls so whatever

austere loom
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which calls does it work best on?

signal aspen
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zeus

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dio

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athena

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poseidon

rustic vale
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you do need athena flourish still for the duo

austere loom
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yeah thought that was the case

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they nerfed divine dash

rustic vale
austere loom
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forgot about thsoe

rustic vale
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So basicslly you get to minor call every 5 seconds

ivory perch
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LMAO

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I died to super dad

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I am not even upset

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its just funny

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CEBERUS

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brrrr

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its more unexpected

austere loom
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ahh dang

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dark thirst is Malphon again

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are any of Malphon's non-Gil aspects good?

signal aspen
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yeah

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demeter is the best fists aspect

austere loom
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the one with multiple special?

signal aspen
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yeah

austere loom
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what goes well with that?

signal aspen
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ME

austere loom
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other than that

signal aspen
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or zeus attack artemis special poseidon dash

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ZAP

austere loom
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does it trigger sea storm on its own?

signal aspen
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what

austere loom
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just asking if the punches technically do knockback

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which triggers sea storm

signal aspen
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no

austere loom
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ah

echo galleon
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Yo can i ask a question here

signal aspen
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ye

echo galleon
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in the quest of Denizens of the deep
do i keep fishing and gathering the fishes
or am i allowed to give em to the chef and it still counts

signal aspen
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i think you can give them to the chef

echo galleon
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I see

pastel monolith
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ya u just need to catch them, doesnt matter if u give em to the chef or not

echo galleon
#

I see I see

lean timber
rustic vale
#

Like imagine spending your darkness on fated authority when you could use it on the resource director and increase your purely cosmetic rank

lean timber
#

literally authority is more useful

rustic vale
#

Authority is more useful than legacy? 🤨🤨🤨

snow skiff
#

Black out better than pride honestly

lean timber
warm nimbus
#

this is why you start arty special on gy

rustic vale
#

Rad

latent moon
#

Based

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

It do be like that

quaint pier
#

are erebus gates worth getting over 2 work orders ??

strong ridge
#

idrk wat work orders means tbh but erebus gates r pretty worthless

mint coral
#

But how will you get your onions without them

lean timber
#

speeder slugger is pretty ruff i guess

rustic vale
mint coral
#

I keep forgetting those

lean timber
#

speeder spears, especially in a group like they always f***** are force you to dodge every frame to avoid getting hit and you can barely get hits in

#

regular spears are okay

mint coral
#

I mean oretry much anything + speeder is awful

#

And i think shield dudes + speeder is worse

strong ridge
lean timber
#

yeah but spears in specific have pretty bad timings because if you interrupt your dash with an attack you get hit (depending on your weapon)

#

and ofc range

#

they are pretty annoying but i find if you just bait them into the shield slam you can get away with murder

#

at least in my experience

warm nimbus
#

what are you talking about

lean timber
#

nah bruh

#

u trippin

mint coral
#

I have more problems with swordmens than spears

lean timber
#

oh yeah i forgot about them.

#

yeah they're rough

mint coral
#

Instant attack hurts a lot

#

And other times they just stall by dashing all over the place

warm nimbus
#

it goes like greatshields>bowmen>>>all of the others

lean timber
#

mmm dash away i cannot, wait 30 seconds for an opening i must

warm nimbus
#

imo

mint coral
#

Bowmen depends for me

lean timber
warm nimbus
#

also if you dont think greatshields are bad you clearly havent dealt with a speeder one lmao

acoustic bolt
#

at what point does high heat need to turn on EM4

#

because uh ow

lean timber
#

yeah i have it wasn't fun but it wasn't hard either

mint coral
#

50+

lean timber
#

yep

mint coral
#

Or less if you wanna have fun

warm nimbus
mint coral
#

I did 45 em4 for zag shield

warm nimbus
#

you can do it at 45 on some aspects

#

like shields

raw herald
#

I personally don’t think it’s optimal on any aspect at 50

#

Modded

acoustic bolt
#

oh that's fair i definitely would have killed him on rail

lean timber
#

it should be on at 32

signal aspen
#

i use em4 at 10 heat

warm nimbus
raw herald
#

Angel did all aspects 50 heat without it iirc

mint coral
#

I havent gone higher than that so thats why i didnt specify but yeah makes sense

raw herald
#

Maybe even higher

rustic vale
#

I definitely didn't do some runs with only td3 and fo2 on so I could make my best times look better when I send my victory screens

mint coral
#

Angel also really dislikes em4 tbf

warm nimbus
#

yeah but so do most people lol

strong ridge
#

unrelated but when zag does a little chuckle or quip in a fight is that random or do you need to be doing majorly good

mint coral
#

You can also just be retrash and have all your clears be em4

#

👍

lean timber
acoustic bolt
#

i've had cleras where i definitely feel like i could have killed him

#

cleras*

#

dlm,jhfa;lsdkjfas

#

clears*

lean timber
rustic vale
#

lmao

#

cleras
cleras*

mint coral
#

Worst part of em4 is def the summons

#

Who doesnt love doing rama em4 till you see sneak/B.ball appears

lean timber
#

don't know how to combat the spear throws + raging rush but i can't imagine the summons

#

hell is real

rustic vale
lean timber
#

true

rustic vale
warm nimbus
mint coral
#

Spear throw is funny till you try to block it at point blank

#

Spoiler it wont go well

warm nimbus
#

bballs/sneaks can literally make it near impossible to clear sometimes

rustic vale
#

just dash

#

s

lean timber
#

mmm take one hundred damage in a single frame i must

mint coral
#

Idk just keep him in your range of view to see the throw coming

lean timber
#

with PL active do you still become impervious on sd or no

signal aspen
#

ye

acoustic bolt
#

rama em4 seems real bad

#

oh i loved hades doing the achilles spear dash

#

nice touch

signal aspen
#

rama is actually one of the best aspects for em4

#

if you know how to play it

snow skiff
acoustic bolt
#

cause ybou just ignore hades and run to the clumps of doomstones and do a billion damage?

warm nimbus
snow skiff
#

Tank the damage from butterfly ball

#

Definitely works

rustic vale
#

What gets hit first; acorn or athena legendary

acoustic bolt
#

woah

lean timber
#

athena i think

acoustic bolt
#

wait does that matter

lean timber
#

yes absolutely

warm nimbus
#

yeah you dont want your acorn charges to be burned

acoustic bolt
#

oh i forgot athena legendary comes back after 20 seconds

#

sorry i'm stupid

signal aspen
snow skiff
#

I want to get hit without burning my acorn actually

#

Sorry

mint coral
#

I love how acorn is strong that even if the chance that it gets burned after b.ball or sneak is still a stupid strong options

warm nimbus
#

yeah lol

mint coral
#

Just dont get those summons

#

:hypnos:

acoustic bolt
#

i maybe would have won if i had not burned all of my acorn on phase 1

#

i fully did not expect his entire moveset to be different

#

i just thought he'd have a third phase

warm nimbus
strong ridge
#

he goes all out man

#

ive always loved how em4 recontextualizes the whole game

acoustic bolt
#

because he's been holding back and therefore let zag find persephone?

strong ridge
#

ye

acoustic bolt
#

yeah that line was a surprise to me too

mint coral
#

He isnt exactly holding back iirc

acoustic bolt
#

i mean i already love hades. he speaks the absolute most sincere apology i have ever heard in fiction or real life

mint coral
#

More like he didnt need that strength so just forgot to use it

acoustic bolt
#

"i ask no forgiveness"

deft canyon
#

Yeah

#

He thinks that he doesn't need to much to beat this brat

strong ridge
#

brat goes brrt

acoustic bolt
#

oh he's doing a goku

warm nimbus
#

sigh common rd

signal aspen
#

why do you hate common rd so much

strong ridge
#

in eurydice we trust

warm nimbus
mint coral
#

Just get the ichors

rustic vale
mint coral
signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

i was really tempted to roll over it looking for epic rd lmao

mint coral
#

Stop being greedy

strong ridge
#

shouldve

#

no god run without god luck

signal aspen
mint coral
snow skiff
#

Roll for rarity

strong ridge
warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

source????

snow skiff
#

Ok but 50% is better than 0%

rustic vale
#

literally double the damage

warm nimbus
#

rd rarity is so much more annoying than doom rarity smh

signal aspen
#

hermes moment

snow skiff
#

They should make rd values variable like mark

#

To make it extra infuriating

warm nimbus
#

lmao

signal aspen
#

imagine getting purple rd but its only like 10% more damage than rare rd

warm nimbus
#

also ugh heroes are so hard on gy

rustic vale
snow skiff
#

Have you tried using quick spin

#

For starting hammer

rustic vale
#

have you tried charged skewer

snow skiff
#

/joke

rustic vale
#

quick + massive on guan-yu zagluv

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

winged serpent is really good for heroes imo

#

better than quick spin

deft canyon
#

I like how Charon got the drip in his boss theme

snow skiff
#

Have you tried extending jab

#

It's really strong on guan yu

warm nimbus
#

lmao athena dd + patty

rustic vale
#

Have you tried hestia shot in guan-yu

#

It’s really strong

snow skiff
#

Still thinking about that time my friend lost 32 heat with both athena dds and a chaos dd

rustic vale
#

Hmm

#

Gaming

#

wait he had both athena dd’s so he had both effects

warm nimbus
#

yooooo stubborn roots

rustic vale
#

Extra health and invulnerability post dying

snow skiff
#

Yeah

rustic vale
#

how tf did they lose

snow skiff
#

They had touch of styx dark

rustic vale
warm nimbus
#

4 acorn charges left

snow skiff
#

The power of winged serpent

warm nimbus
#

nah it was stubborn roots and quick spin

#

really helped me heal wuite a bit

#

bruh im 30 gold short of styx hermes

#

im tempted to go down the other miniboss tunnel lmao

signal aspen
#

skill issue

#

missed 2 gold pots

warm nimbus
#

what if its greater haste?

#

i could get 90% from rd instead of 50%

#

wait that doesnt even sound that good

signal aspen
#

?

warm nimbus
#

id lose tosd for that lmao

signal aspen
#

oh

warm nimbus
#

im still not used to fo2 hades times

#

feels really weird

signal aspen
#

did you actually play that much ff

warm nimbus
#

yes

#

i gave up on it after a string of like 20 attempts with no ares attack in tart though

deft canyon
#

So what's the best Status effect in your Opinion?

latent moon
#

weak

patent mesa
rustic vale
#

plus weak interacts with so many duos

signal aspen
#

hunters mark kinda pog tho

patent mesa
signal aspen
rustic vale
#

Hangover doom and jolted are up there as well

#

Upon remembering that ruptured only works when the enemy is moving I no longer call it better hangover

rustic vale
latent moon
#

chamber 10 smair with zag shield lmao this is a pride moment

rustic vale
#

athena status effect kinda negligible tbh

latent moon
#

lvl 2 common aphro atk, also a pride moment

rustic vale
#

chill exists I guess

#

I think chill has a long duration so higher pstatus uptime thou

deft canyon
#

Chill can get into a better hangover too

rustic vale
#

Not really

signal aspen
#

killing freeze would be a lot better if it was pommable

rustic vale
#

Killing freeze isn’t nearly hangover

#

and I’d take ruptured over killing freeze tbh

#

Hunters mark good but I’m not sure how good

signal aspen
#

honestly id say its like third best status

rustic vale
#

Off the top of my head I’d go Weaken > jolted, hangover, doom > Hunters mark > ruptured > chill > athena status

#

can status effect damage crit off of hunters mark?

signal aspen
#

weak, jolt, mark, chill, doom, hangover, rupture, athena for me probably

signal aspen
rustic vale
#

I wouldn’t rate chill high why do you

#

is it that good?

signal aspen
#

slow enemies good

#

for high heats

#

and for doom and hangover it really depends where its coming from

#

like dio dash is awful

rustic vale
signal aspen
#

dio call is amazing

#

doom special on something like arthur sucks

latent moon
#

I'm glad we can all at least agree weak is the strongest lol

rustic vale
#

Weak good

signal aspen
#

no weak sucks

rustic vale
#

Damage reduction good

#

Synergy with other things good

#

Duration can be good

#

Sweet surrender good

#

opening 600 aphrodite supporting boons bad

warm nimbus
snow skiff
#

weak is only 10% smh

signal aspen
#

maim is actually the best status effect

rustic vale
#

It’s 30% reduction

warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

🤨🤨🤨

warm nimbus
#

what

rustic vale
#

Weak is 30% damage reduction

#

Wdym it’s 10%

warm nimbus
#

no, its 10%

snow skiff
warm nimbus
#

magnetized zagluv

signal aspen
#

punishing sweep isnt global

snow skiff
signal aspen
#

literally just dont get hit

#

you are playing gilgamesh

#

use the extra dashes

#

smh

strong ridge
#

extra small dashes extra long recharge

warm nimbus
#

yeah but more dashes = more iframes so youre wrong

#

therefore gilga is the safest aspect

strong ridge
#

no

warm nimbus
#

yes, it is

#

ive used it myself

strong ridge
#

lol

warm nimbus
#

why are you laughing at me

#

thats rude

signal aspen
#

hahahaa

warm nimbus
#

ok im going to stop using aim assist on gy

#

i think its making it worse

rustic vale
strong ridge
#

tooltips in this game are at best moderately informative

rustic vale
#

it literally says 30%

#

For the ingame tooltip

strong ridge
#

game says lots of things

signal aspen
#

it is 30%

strong ridge
#

game often isnt correct

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

oh

#

its 10%

rustic vale
#

It just lies sometimes

strong ridge
#

beo moment
mirage moment
bad news moment
etc.

warm nimbus
#

Your Cast fires a second projectile, though it has reduced damage.
Secondary Shot Damage: 30%

rustic vale
#

Beo moment?

#

mirage shot is just bugged on beo though

strong ridge
#

sweet sun,er child

signal aspen
#

yeah its just beo

rustic vale
warm nimbus
#

Fiery Presence Each rank makes you deal 15% damage when you strike undamaged foes.

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

bruh thats supposed to say attack/special lmao

signal aspen
#

actually its global in c1

warm nimbus
#

yeah ik

#

thats the thing i was talking about

lean timber
#

you know what else is global in c1

warm nimbus
#

15% lets go

latent moon
#

That's all you need

signal aspen
#

just get like 20 ichors

warm nimbus
#

bruh died to p1 dad

#

im still not used to fo2 again this sucks

boreal raven
#

Just force yourself to use it and you'll get used to it quick

warm nimbus
#

i know how to play with fo2 lmao

#

its just that a did a ton of fresh file attempts and fresh file dad fight practice over the last week

boreal raven
#

oh fair

queen karma
#

I ||eased off on Than|| and didn't get the chibi thing, did I mess up somewhere?

rustic vale
#

No

formal sinew
#

I have it.

#

Idk, he just gave it after ||gave him Ambrosia||

mental vale
queen karma
#

Yeah

formal sinew
#

Oh

#

I thought they meant companion

queen karma
#

I guess I need to have more dialogue with him to achieve the bond?

rustic vale
#

Yup

#

I’m fairly certain you get the bond forged when you cannot gift them anything at all anymore

acoustic bolt
#

Some require dialogue too. Someone had an issue getting dusa even after maxing favor

mint coral
lean timber
#

mirage hera goes nasty

#

(i have not used it)

mint coral
#

It only works on trippy flare

hardy spear
#

dionysus too drunk to follow the rules

rustic vale
mint coral
#

Yeah

#

Trippy hera doesnt get poms bug

dull niche
#

:(

mint coral
#

Hi croven

lean timber
#

CROVEN

#

hi

rustic vale
#

Hullo

signal aspen
#

"dont talk to this guy. he'll peddle you something called "hera" or whatever" - mystic

lean timber
#

i have consumed his goods.

rustic vale
lean timber
#

i want more.

tardy shadow
#

am I super unlucky with RNGesus?

104hrs into game so far, into epilogue

Can't get the last bit of dialogue to prompt for ||Patroclus & Achilles|| to reunite

Lately when I get to ||Patroclus|| he just gives me a one liner and sends me on my way...

dull niche
lean timber
#

you're my hades hero croven

signal aspen
signal aspen
lean timber
#

no the obsession came first

#

the idol came after

warm nimbus
#

YOOOO

#

RD IN TART

#

epic

rustic vale
#

Based shackle start

warm nimbus
#

shackle nem is best nem

#

dude tos and chaos in midbiome well

lean timber
#

also unironically feather duster is op on low heat

warm nimbus
latent moon
warm nimbus
#

hows the build looking

lean timber
#

bro

warm nimbus
#

i dont think ive ever had 4 at once

austere loom
#

what to do with chaos shield?

warm nimbus
#

charged shot and aphro attack

#

the special is still pretty bad but you can but dio special on it to still have it be bad

austere loom
#

ahh

#

beat the boss for the 10th time

rustic vale
#

static discharge really doesn't open any of the zeus supporting boons shadegrief

austere loom
#

sounds like a good place to stop for now

rustic vale
#

over my dead body

warm nimbus
austere loom
#

but I have yet to unlock Guan Yu, Achilles is usualy busy

rustic vale
#

you have yet to beat the game at 64 heat

austere loom
#

just relax Speedy Gonzales

rustic vale
warm nimbus
austere loom
#

I just used the Shield of Chaos as a beatdown strat

warm nimbus
#

only affect lightning bolts anyways

rustic vale
#

lightning strike moment

austere loom
#

got lucky with the hammer and Chaos Boons

latent moon
#

just died to dad on 32 chaos bouldy

#

chaos is pain

warm nimbus
#

chaos = zag shield

latent moon
#

yeah i was just playing bad zag shield

rustic vale
#

Aegis is called shield of chaos

latent moon
#

still pain

austere loom
#

talking about the aspect of chaos specifically

rustic vale
#

aspect of chaos is... an aspect

austere loom
#

because it really was Chaos' shield at first

rustic vale
#

it certainly is an aspect

austere loom
#

anyway

#

is Aspect of Nemesis any good?

rustic vale
#

best non-arthur sword aside from zag

austere loom
#

I see

#

welp time for Aphrodite again

rustic vale
#

arthur sword is kind of just a different game

austere loom
#

I've come around to her

#

while Weak is not that good a debuff

rustic vale
#

weak is top tier

austere loom
#

her stat buffs are absurd

austere loom
rustic vale
#

weak is a top tier debuff wdym

austere loom
#

bonus damage

rustic vale
#

pstatus or hunters mark

austere loom
#

status

#

the one where you get bonus damage for debuffs

rustic vale
#

weak is top tier debuff why do you say it isn't good

austere loom
#

it seems mediocre

#

esp for early game

rustic vale
#

30% damage reduction is a lot

austere loom
#

but PStatus makes it real good

#

since it just sticks

#

also Aphrodite has that boon where weak enemies take more damage

rustic vale
#

sweet surrender

#

just remember pick up dedge and don't pick up flurry, cursed slash, hoarding slash or dash nova and you should be good

#

it's so funny that sword has a lot of either useless or negatively affecting hammers

#

definitely not aggravating

latent moon
austere loom
#

yeah maybe

#

I'm guessing it's better when enemies start hitting like absolute trucks

rustic vale
#

idk it's still useful before that

#

especially with all the duos that rely on weak being good except for COL

tepid light
#

weak isn't 'explosive' like say zeus or poseidon but you really start feeling the difference after a while

rustic vale
#

ah yes ruptured is explosive

tepid light
#

when enemies start hitting for a lot less than expected

rustic vale
#

definitely

#

definitely

#

this isn't ironic at all

tepid light
#

?

latent moon
#

we're talking about status effects, and ruptured is probably one of the worst lol

rustic vale
#

plus tidal dash and pos cast/flare are the only explosive things pos has

tepid light
rustic vale
#

zeus is overall explosive once you hit jolted

tepid light
#

by 'explosive' i literally just meant 'visually striking'

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

hmmm

#

lernie roaring = an attack according to jolted

tepid light
#

hey, free damage

rustic vale
#

free lernie kill tbh

#

I dropped antos on them and then they roared and jolted finished them off

#

c

#

where is zeus call

#

or any call in general

#

I've had smair boons since tart

manic bobcat
#

how are your other core boons looking

rustic vale
#

lightning strike/heartbreak flourish/zap dash

manic bobcat
#

it should come, eventually

rustic vale
#

dark foresight is a scam

#

definitely

latent moon
#

true

rustic vale
#

like

#

what's the use if I'm not getting zeus boons anyways?

#

I didn't see a single one post tart

#

at least with whatever the other option was I was seeing more keys for more rerolls when I actually saw the gods I wanted

#

oh my

#

I just witnessed God

#

A hand dude grabbed me in tartarus but he was laser connected to 2 other hands so I got locked into the lasers

manic bobcat
#

get comboed nerd

rustic vale
#

tbf

#

I'm playing sword the best way

#

so it's fair

#

game I do not need 6 hundred other gods in tart

#

I just want zeus

manic bobcat
#

didn't you guarantee him?

rustic vale
#

I did

#

but zeus wants more zeus

#

I mean I have 244hp leaving tart and did find purple jolted so

#

complaining in hades discord = better luck thanthink

latent moon
#

legacy is a scam

#

this is literally my second one this run

rustic vale
#

hl is a scam

#

I'm going back to js3 and cp 2

#

I take it back I take it back

#

chaos gave me +60% foes on top of JS3 I'm going to die in tart

#

I had tunnel vision

latent moon
#

very cool i burned all my DD's on the champs lmao

rustic vale
#

chaos +60% enemies was a non-issue because I picked up draining cutter

#

and at the end had an exclusively numbskull room

#

any hp I had lost I regained

#

epic doom strike and epic impending doom leaving tart is kind of a free win

#

wait

#

I have 294 max hp rn

#

walking into asphodel

#

how does this happne

#

is this

#

7 dash gilgamesh

#

holy

#

it's happening again

manic bobcat
#

lul

rustic vale
#

when I needed zeus they just wouldn't show up after first boon

#

now that I need athena

#

I get ddash

#

then she ghosts me

#

theres an athena boon:
it's an ares versus athena room

#

oh I didn't realise plume had a little timer telling you how long was left

#

that's neat

#

my damage is literally too slow for td3 oh no

#

I went from 0 seconds at c33 to a w against heroes

tepid light
#

Question: how does ravenous will interact with hera/beowulf

#

if you have the casts loaded into your weapon, do you get the bonus

raw herald
#

Yes

tepid light
#

Nice

rustic vale
#

I had hades at 25% hp after like 1 minute over the timer was up and I died with what could've been the best ME build

#

level 6 heroic doom strike, +3 dashes on gilgamesh, level 3 epic impending doom