#h1-discussion

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deft canyon
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But he is actually a normal Teenage Boy who wants to escape while his father is the typical Grumpy dad thats regretted Puberty of his son lol.

mint coral
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I remember someone comparing zagreus to a capybara

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Cuz he is really polite

deft canyon
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Making goofy comments

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Ding wholesome stuff.

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And the fact that the Hydra has "Learny the hydra" as boss name at me now loooool.

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They included everything in Hades

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ABD ITS A INDIE GAME

mint coral
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There is also the edge cases like bringing yarn of ariadne to theseus

deft canyon
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I ask myself how this game lost to TLOU2.

acoustic bolt
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Zagreus is gen z af

deft canyon
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The game looks edgy

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But it has tones of Goofy humor

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Alone Hypnos with his Loading screen tips

acoustic bolt
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hypnos is so pure

deft canyon
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Yeah

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I love how he says "Could u kill maybe all mortals at once?" to his brother indicating that he wants to be reunited with his brother again.

mint coral
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Hypnos is great

deft canyon
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Charon is the best bro tho

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His lines are always so meaningful

mint coral
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Best sparring character

deft canyon
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Nearly as deep as the murder fury

wraith turtle
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whats the olympos aid

deft canyon
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But i love how Zagreus totally trolls her

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Murderzer Made me laugh lol

lean timber
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charon and tisiphone are probably on my list of favorite characters

deft canyon
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She tried

lean timber
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zagreus... zaa... zrr... murderzer!

deft canyon
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And Zagreus

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Murderzer?

mint coral
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She learns at her own pace

deft canyon
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Idk how she thinks about Zagreus tho

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The other one clearly hates u lol since u annoy her alot

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And Meg well becomes more and more friendly towards Zagreus

lean timber
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all she knows or cares about is that zagreus has entered her chamber, so she assumes that he's a murderer and she's been assigned to dish out his punishment

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and then is shocked when he bests her

deft canyon
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Probably being pissed

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Zagreus be like "No im Zagreus not Murderer"

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Him guessing who could it be is also funny lol

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Also the duo boom with Artemis and Dyanisus is still hilarious

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Artemis being like "Hey Zagreus here he is your problem now byeeee"

swift inlet
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Does Artemis in the game have some faint crush on Zagreus? I don't really know why she wanted to have some private conversation with him in Aphrodite's duo boon, only for said Aphrodite to show up and tease her about her heart

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She's a virgin goddess like Hestia and Athena, but she's also the only virgin goddess that actually contemplated breaking that vow (depending on the storyteller's take on Orion)

lean timber
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she's just odd and awkward i think

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i don't think she has anything for zag

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although i know the convo you're talking about and it is interesting to think about

swift inlet
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The only other thing I could think of is that Aphrodite wants to stop Zagreus from joining the virgin huntresses for obvious reasons

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But half of Artemis' dialogue is either "omg bestie you should come hunt with us!!!" or "we're both lonely... besties?"

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So I don't think that's it

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She's definitely socially awkward and it's a characterization that's pretty refreshing from the scornful uncaring princess type most people seem to cast her in

grizzled spindle
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I bought the fishing rod home come I can’t fish

rustic vale
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you can fish

mint coral
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@acoustic bolt tight deadline disables survival rooms which pause the timer

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So is bad for igt, good for rta

grizzled spindle
acoustic bolt
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where are you trying to fish exactly

mint coral
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Big glowing spot or just water

acoustic bolt
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what exactly are htey

mint coral
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The ones in tart where dad appears and makes you fight enemies for 45 secs

acoustic bolt
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ohhh

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i had no idea they pause the timer

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i also didn't realize they were disabled and basically forgot they existed.

dat objective permanence tho

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@snow skiff FO scares me. the bull is not chill.

mint coral
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Bull do be scary

snow skiff
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Bull scary

acoustic bolt
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i almost lost a run earlier where i didn't really consider the ramifications of my chaos choice and entered that fight with either very low movement speed or very short dashes i forget

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it did not go well

lean timber
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you will probably die at least once

acoustic bolt
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i've been running em3 for the last like 100 runs

snow skiff
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Idk i get hit by FO0 bull more than FO2

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Too used to FO2 timing

pearl relic
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alrighty, starting my 'get Hypnos's hearts unlocked' grind. wanna message y'all on my progress cause i need support lol

latent moon
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Have fun

lean timber
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fo2 em3 is a little scary

grizzled spindle
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I figured out fishing

acoustic bolt
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🙂

latent moon
latent yacht
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major spoilers (for affinity with a certain character)
||i just got friendzoned by a flying head and now i'm depressed||

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how do i complete Dionysus' favor? it says on the wiki i have to forge bonds with at least 6 character (i have 8 done) and gift at least 10 ambrosia (i maxed out Dusa so it's already 10 + i gave some to other characters)

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and the heart is still locked

pearl relic
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did a full run, Hypnos mentioned something about a survey for me to fill out and that was it. no Thanatos 😦

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wondering if i should do a few death runs

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maybe that'll help move things along

pearl relic
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Than showed up, after the run he talked about zag abolishing Sisyphus's sentence

lean timber
pearl relic
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Sisyphus?

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if so no, i just talked to Than

hardy spear
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bro he specifically didnt reply to you

pearl relic
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oh my bad

hardy spear
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lol

pearl relic
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going to do 3 quick death runs then another full run. maybe that will help me run into Than quicker idk

lean timber
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the death runs should really be all you need. each run gives a chance for it to happen

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a full run is just gonna cause more events to happen and slow you down

hardy spear
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is it not more fun to just do normal runs?

lean timber
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yeah it is but if you want to catch up on story events that are waiting the quickest way to do that is YouShould

hardy spear
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cringe

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just read a book or something then if you want story

lean timber
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plays indie game with huge story, "read a book if you want plot"

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definition of intelligence fear

warm nimbus
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tbh i didnt really find the story of hades to be particularly enticing

warm nimbus
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than only shows up after you see him during a run iirc

mint coral
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iirc they already had Than complimenting hypnos so shouldnt need him to appear again

quaint grail
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yeah than only shows up after the first challenge

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and then it takes ages for him to be basically permanent

mint coral
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there is also the fact that Than loooooooves talking about anything else

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so hypnos convo gets pushed a lot

quaint grail
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the flirting takes precedence

lean timber
mint coral
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hades story is nice but not smth i quite remember tbh

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i remember more of the funny bits or other character stories

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and if im talking on supergiant 4 games i remember transistor-pyre a lot more

warm nimbus
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but i cant fault them its hard to make a story based roguelike lmao

mint coral
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at least hades story is an actual story and not a "piece the lore by yourself"

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which for a roguelike it feels like a lot

modern tusk
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Finally did the duo boom fated list

mint coral
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gaming

modern tusk
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Also the mirror perks one

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(Me when death defiance is bad cuz I’m bad at the game)

lean timber
modern tusk
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In my opinion I kinda enjoyed the story

lean timber
modern tusk
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But

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It did get carried by the gameplay

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I love this game

lean timber
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good game

mint coral
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fun game

modern tusk
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I did like how the reasons for escaping end up changing due to parental issues

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That was an interesting twist

mint coral
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refering to reaching the credits as "solve your family issues" never gets old

modern tusk
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In the blood (think that was the name) goes hard

mint coral
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yesssss

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tho lament of orpheus is still my fav

lean timber
modern tusk
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THATS RXACTLY WHAT I DID I LOVE IT

lean timber
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music stand goated i like payback remix and chaos theme

modern tusk
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It’s the only music piece I’ve bought from the contractor

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So far

lean timber
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i think lament of orpheus unlocks automatically when you hear him sing it in the lobby

mint coral
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non vocal tracks i love god of the dead

lean timber
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god of the dead is literally my wake up alarm

mint coral
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unseen ones also great

lean timber
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unseen ones is top three music stand pieces

mint coral
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"banned for containing too many notes per second"

modern tusk
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Orpheus being this gullible is amazing

lean timber
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orpheus is not incredibly intelligent

modern tusk
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I just got the pardon for Orpheus and Euridicy (I can’t spell)

mint coral
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or incredibly trusting cuz the one time he did not trust dad

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or the most obvious is considering the result he is probably just messing with zag back bouldy

hardy spear
modern tusk
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What’s y’all’s favorite weapon and aspect to use

mint coral
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beo shield-rama bow-zag shield

hardy spear
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gun

mint coral
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no order in particular

hardy spear
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blastin

pearl relic
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progress, Than showed up and then there was a second talk about Sisyphus

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hopefully there's no third

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going to do a death run and then a full run hoping Than shows up again

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tried to do a quick google search on everything Than has to say before interacting with Hypnos, but no luck

modern tusk
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I love fists as a weapon

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Current favorite aspect is Arthur tho

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I just

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Love seeing big number

icy knoll
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play hestia, it's like arthur but better

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and big number

modern tusk
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I forg

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Which aspect is that for

icy knoll
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rail

modern tusk
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I have it I just don’t remember

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Oh

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Wait really

icy knoll
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reload and shoot 150 base power bullet

modern tusk
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I’ve been using it and it’s definitely strong but hasn’t gotten to that degree yet

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Well

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I haven’t done many actual runs recently

icy knoll
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use your special every other reload and get some dash-strike boosts and it's a monster

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also it aims itself so there's that

pearl relic
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just to make sure, since Than talked about Sisyphus twice today for me does that definitely mean i need to keep running into him to progress Hypnos? that would clarify things for me

icy knoll
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yes

pearl relic
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ty

digital orbit
stray echo
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so I keep hearing people say you can date in this game wtf is that about

modern tusk
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Yes u can

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Cuz why not

stray echo
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oh

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cool I guess

digital orbit
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💀

stray echo
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wow

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dant wait

digital orbit
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why do everyone love the fists

signal aspen
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good question

latent moon
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fast and vaguely simple to use

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also ME on fists is fun if you get it

digital orbit
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I always loved the spear when I started

latent moon
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i liked fists when i started because i somehow got ME quite often and now i despise it

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tried 2 times to clear it on 32 heat and they both sucked bouldy

digital orbit
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I love the charged uppercut on fist

latent moon
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demeter fists is the best fist

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talos kinda funny tho

rustic vale
lean timber
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dem is literally more fun and more functional than talos

signal aspen
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gilgamesh >>>>> the other fists

latent moon
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imagine not dealing over 1k damage with explosive upper on fists

rustic vale
digital orbit
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why isnt there any voice chats

rustic vale
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I haven’t seen someone play ping pong with demeter before

latent moon
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ping pong doodoo

snow skiff
signal aspen
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actually gilgamesh >>>>>> the other aspects

rustic vale
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Gilgamesh is cool because you get more dashes

snow skiff
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zagsword clears gilgamesh

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unfortuantely

signal aspen
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debatable

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both extremely overpowered aspects

digital orbit
rustic vale
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Wait why is the 40 heat zag sword wr faster then the 32 heat zag sword wr by 3 minutes

digital orbit
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rng manupilation?

rustic vale
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lmao

digital orbit
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:/

signal aspen
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who has the zag sword 40 wr

digital orbit
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god

rustic vale
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Magnil

digital orbit
signal aspen
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thats why

signal aspen
digital orbit
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oh ok

rustic vale
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Can they not submit a 40 heat run for 32 heat

signal aspen
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no

rustic vale
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I’m checking the rules and it literally says “32 heat or more”

signal aspen
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i think if its 40 heat then it goes to 40 heat

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but you can submit it to anyheat

rustic vale
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Talos 40 is 15 seconds faster then talos 32 and they’re both by magnil

signal aspen
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magnil moment

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ok but do you know who has MEchilles 40 heat wr

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me 😎

digital orbit
rustic vale
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Cuz there are 2 runs faster than yours in just 40 heat achilles

signal aspen
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yeah using ME

rustic vale
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Idk if they use ME

signal aspen
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they dont

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therefore i have MEchilles 40 wr

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🗿

rustic vale
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Nice

signal aspen
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if you cant get any wrs just make up a random category

rustic vale
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Nice luci 32 wr

signal aspen
digital orbit
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I wonder whats the next game of supergiant gonna be

signal aspen
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i hope its like a dungeon roguelike

latent moon
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it's gonna have horses

signal aspen
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with the greek gods

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in the underworld

digital orbit
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sounds unique

warm nimbus
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maybe it should be called like

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"pluto"

digital orbit
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zeus

rustic vale
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Hmm

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Chaos 40 heat unseeded is free lol

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Nobody has any submissions

signal aspen
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because nobody wants to play chaos 40

rustic vale
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I get that

latent moon
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do it to get the world record for like 1 day

digital orbit
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is bow useless

rustic vale
signal aspen
latent moon
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bow sucks

rustic vale
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bow is good

warm nimbus
latent moon
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the 50 heat wr is literally rama lmfao

warm nimbus
rustic vale
warm nimbus
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to an unreasonable degree

rustic vale
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It says 0 runs

warm nimbus
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hm

signal aspen
digital orbit
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wait

warm nimbus
signal aspen
rustic vale
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bow is actually fire lol

latent moon
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bow has 3 good aspects and 1 okayish one

signal aspen
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chiron is bad

digital orbit
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the pool where we cleanse the poison

warm nimbus
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i mean if you really want a wr just do seeded modded beo

digital orbit
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looks like gaia

warm nimbus
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lmao

rustic vale
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No hades 40 heat either

signal aspen
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yeah because nobody wants to play hades

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the spear

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i mean

digital orbit
signal aspen
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ok

rustic vale
signal aspen
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me

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i am totally gonna boot up hades for the first time in a month to play chaos

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my favorite aspect of the shield of chaos

rustic vale
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y’know I’m actually surprised that gilgamesh 40 has a run but demeter 40 doesn’t

digital orbit
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I would love to have a chat with the dev who added the poison in this game

signal aspen
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wait who played gilgamesh 40

signal aspen
latent moon
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there's 1 32 heat unmodded unseeded wr for chaos lmfao

signal aspen
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by who

rustic vale
latent moon
digital orbit
rustic vale
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Wait there is a 50 heat chaos run

latent moon
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actually by almost exactly a year ago

signal aspen
rustic vale
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Unseeded

signal aspen
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bright is the only person insane enough to play chaos 50 unmodded

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and then submit it to src

latent moon
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jesus christ lmao

warm nimbus
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lmao thats funny

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i mean anybody who plays unmodded is honestly insane but yeah

rustic vale
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Bright01 also the only dude with a hades 50 run

signal aspen
digital orbit
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bro deflecting poison darts to sender feels godly

signal aspen
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one thing i love is that nobody has touched high heat rta yet

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i wonder if anybody is ever gonna play that

rustic vale
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Idk

latent moon
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just noticed the 4th place icon is an onion lmao

signal aspen
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you know who has 32 heat onion

rustic vale
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Would they accept a run that was just my phone pointed at my tv or something

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if it had the ingame timer up

signal aspen
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i mean if you can see the run clearly enough then probably

digital orbit
latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
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nice sub7 gaming

digital orbit
rustic vale
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Lmao sometimes it isn’t

signal aspen
latent moon
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lmfao amazing

rustic vale
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bye bye frames

signal aspen
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is switch gaming that bad

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lmao

rustic vale
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Not all the time

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It’s usually 60fps

latent moon
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if y'all want an easy top 10 on speedrun.com just do all aspects

signal aspen
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arent there like 5 runs

latent moon
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8 runs, 7 people

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for unmodded

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modded is 8 people

signal aspen
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more than expected

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especially for unmodded

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spear fists bow and sword kinda would suck

latent moon
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2 of them are switch on unmodded

digital orbit
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are there any bow speedruns

signal aspen
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no

digital orbit
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must be a pain in the ass

latent moon
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the person who did 2 runs did it on pc and switch lmao

signal aspen
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bow definitely does not have both unmodded and modded anyheat wrs right now

digital orbit
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lmao

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time to get the no 1

raw herald
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Definitely not

latent moon
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bow has the second highest owo dang

stray echo
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Bow is annoying

digital orbit
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:d

raw herald
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Photoshop madman

raw herald
latent moon
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why do you have to show your death at the start of the run btw

raw herald
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Swowo might be kinda close actually

rustic vale
rustic vale
signal aspen
latent moon
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swowo is 1:06

raw herald
latent moon
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ah makes sense

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discord is not having a good time very cool

raw herald
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Discord broke

signal aspen
digital orbit
raw herald
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Routed

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Maybe

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It’s not feasible in a real run

digital orbit
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remember the damage shard guy

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his inventory

lean timber
digital orbit
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who had that photo

signal aspen
digital orbit
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yes

digital orbit
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how to make bow not suck

signal aspen
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idk

latent moon
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the fact that it's a bow has literally nothing to do with it lmao

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trap damage moment

digital orbit
signal aspen
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yeaoh

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yeah

digital orbit
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yaay

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found cerberus's thing in the last chamber

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sooooo lucky

lean timber
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better than a six-tunnel sack find

digital orbit
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thats what I meant

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🗿

warm nimbus
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nice like 8 hour run

signal aspen
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nah wr is 6 hours

lean timber
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15m per run average is kinda spicy

raw herald
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Modded

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And it’s 6:xx not 6:00

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And the meta aspects can consistently go 13:xx if you’re goated

latent moon
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wr is close to 7 hours lol

lean timber
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sure but two minutes off the average for like 8 aspects isn't a huge deviation from the norm which means guy's slowest run must still be pretty quick

digital orbit
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what does boiling blood do

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do I take more damage?

signal aspen
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yeah

stray echo
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It boils your blood

warm nimbus
digital orbit
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technically true

stray echo
digital orbit
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fax

raw herald
signal aspen
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yeah

digital orbit
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yeah

raw herald
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yeah

stray echo
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yeah

lean timber
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yeah

snow skiff
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yeah

latent moon
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yeah

pearl relic
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got Than again in the second dungeon, xcloud crashed. got Than in the third dungeon on the next try, xcloud crashed 😦 gonna try again after i eat

lean timber
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yeah

digital orbit
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yeah

stray echo
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yeah

acoustic bolt
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does parting shot work with hera

lean timber
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yeah

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(but it's not great)

acoustic bolt
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i got forced athena so i was wondering if i should bother qualifying for something

latent moon
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Get parting shot to sell for stonks

warm nimbus
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^^

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still worth taking over most things from athena because big money

pearl relic
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progress. got Than again and this time he and zag talked about Dusa's relationship with zag. going to do a quick death run and then a full run cause the last 3 times i did i got Than on my full run

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btw everyone's favorite character is Dusa right?

rustic vale
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artemis > dusa

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but it's a close second

signal aspen
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bouldy 🥰bouldy

snow skiff
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". . . ." ❤️

modern tusk
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Wait question abt hidden aspects

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To get the dialogue where the specific character mentions your prowess with the weapon, do u have to be using zag’s aspect or does any aspect work

pearl relic
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Bouldy would be my runner up to Dusa 🙂

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progress. got Than and this time they talked about Ares and Nyx. about to do another death and full run, but i'm getting worried ppl

void vigil
pearl relic
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i don't think i filled a heart in like 20 full runs

rustic vale
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Wait nvrmind it goes bouldy>artemis> dusa my brain malfunctioned

latent moon
pearl relic
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full run and no Than. time for another full run

spice hare
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ok so i completed malphon on one heat but i didnt finish it yet on 0 heat

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does that mean my hades 0 heat reward is gone

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cuz it wont let me go back to 0 heat

mint coral
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Just turn off all pacts

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You cant lose bounties

modern tusk
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Man these people really don’t wanna give me their hidden aspects

latent moon
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rng moment

modern tusk
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My Artemis keepsake is literally maxed now

latent moon
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you have the titan blood req?

modern tusk
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Yea

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Cuz I got all the other aspects for each weapon

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Like the not hidden ones

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Hidden ones I have so far are Arthur and guan yu

pearl relic
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got Than again and this time they talked about Charon. xcloud was acting up so i died in the lava to be safe. about to do another death run and full run

pearl relic
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progress. this time they talked about Nyx and Chaos spending time together. time for another run

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been getting Than early. this time they talked about Achilles

spice hare
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how many times do i need to talk to npcs to get the hidden aspects

latent moon
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rng moment

spice hare
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i already did the 5 blood

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its been two days chaos

latent moon
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got guan yu?

spice hare
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i think you can make two entire zagreus with the amount of blood he took

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yeah got it

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am trying to get the shield one

latent moon
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then get better rng i guess lmao

spice hare
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hell, i cleared the game twice already after the first victory

latent moon
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that's not a lot actually lmao

spice hare
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hades aint so hard despite his big health bar and skull wave attack

spice hare
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small baby victories for me

latent moon
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nice

pearl relic
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ran into Than on the 3rd dungeon and xcloud froze my pc so had to restart. going to start quitting the game at the beginning of every dungeon to avoid time loss

acoustic bolt
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how does twin shot interact with hera?

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do both arrows carry the spell? how does hera work with mirage shot?

latent moon
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twin shot just shoots a single cast at the end of it

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with mirage it shoots out a second projectile, same as normal mirage shot

warm nimbus
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and sadly its not bugged

patent mesa
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does hera have trippy flare?

warm nimbus
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yes

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it has the mirage bug on trippy flare

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but not the pom scaling bug

patent mesa
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tragic news

lean timber
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new chaos curse: -3 to 5 hp whenever you dash

latent moon
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that sounds fun

patent mesa
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breaking news: use rate of zag shield skyrockets to 100%

warm nimbus
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rounding error there

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im the one person not using it

patent mesa
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you can lead a horse to water smh

pearl relic
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game saved last crash as opposed to the times it didn't tonight

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progress. this time they talked about the blade zag is borrowing from Hades. about to do another run

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does anyone know of a site that has all of Thanatos's lines with zag?

lean timber
#

can check the wiki doubt it's complete tho

pearl relic
#

took almost two full runs, but progress. this time they talked about Orpheus, Than got a bit upset and left

short glen
swift inlet
#

Bullrush 24/7

rustic vale
#

how needs dash when bullrush

digital orbit
#

I love gilgamesh

rustic vale
#

who loves gilgamesh wdym

#

I mean I like it but I see it trashed a lot here

digital orbit
#

huh

#

ok let me change it

brisk trail
#

rare gilgamesh enjoyer

ionic dagger
#

so from what ive gathered, all the progress i made on hades through xbox gamepass on pc will not transfer to the steam version

stray echo
#

Guess not

pulsar hemlock
#

Hmm... Can somebody tell me why there's an obol coin on top of my save? 🤔

lean timber
#

because it was your last active save

#

just an indicator

pulsar hemlock
#

Ah, okay

ionic dagger
#

should i stop progressing on the xbox version and buy the steam version?

nova kite
#

Do what you will. I know I bought it on two platforms but I didn't mind.

pulsar hemlock
#

THat'd be up to you

nova kite
#

The game is the same so ultimately, it's up to you.

ionic dagger
#

its cheaper on steam but ill lose my progress

#

its being removed from gamepass

#

so i either grind it for a week or buy it on steam

#

i guess ill get it on steam

warm nimbus
nova kite
ionic dagger
#

I reached stix then died

#

I dont know what else to say

nova kite
#

Oh. You won't have time to finish before it goes out of the game pass, then.

#

Especially if you like it.

pliant cliff
#

I think if you have familiarity with the game you could probably get your progress back pretty quickly

rustic vale
#

Does anyone know approximately how much hp Dad has

latent moon
#

17,000 hp

rustic vale
#

Rad

#

I checked the wiki and there was no info for some reason

raw herald
#

17k per phase right

rustic vale
#

Lmao I started this arthur run and it was first chamber hammer, all were special hammers

latent moon
#

no idea i just remember Hat saying a number a bit ago and i found the number lmao

rustic vale
#

Is that +115% dash strike damage from chaos? Yes give it to me this second

#

wait I just realised I have zap dash on sword 💀

latent moon
#

based

rustic vale
#

Ok but +150 damage dash strikes are sweet

#

Praying for dedge in elysium

#

I used 6 rerolls to find hyper sprint

#

I should not have taken a call before hermes

#

Is anvil safer on arthur then other swords? I don’t think you can find as many bad hammers on arthur

mint coral
#

Cursed slash is like the only bad one

#

Others are just meh

rustic vale
#

How did I just go from 5 minute tart to 6 and half minutes and at lernie fight thanthink

#

I think this is the shortest asphodel I’ve ever had

mint coral
#

Short biome + skips

rustic vale
#

My dash-strikes are doing +200 right now so I’m really really hoping for dedge

#

There it is shadesmile shadesmile shadesmile shadesmile

#

My dash strikes deal 480 now holy

queen karma
#

What is the best Twin Fists aspect?

raw herald
#

Demeter

queen karma
#

Oh, I see

#

It needs to be upgraded to max to work good or can it work with level 1?

rustic vale
#

It does way better when maxed and tbh all the fist aspects are kinda sad at level 1

queen karma
#

Ok, thanks for the help

wind tendon
#

Fangamer EU just released the hades merch :3

rustic vale
#

No this was my closet 32 heat shackle run yet shadegrief shadegrief shadegrief shadegrief shadegrief

#

I just played really badly first phase of hades

#

Fo2 hades is too fast for my arthur gaming

#

Spreadfire zag rail my favourite melee aspect zagluv zagluv zagluv

magic wave
rustic vale
#

More like the bosses reach you faster

magic wave
#

however

boreal raven
#

FO2 isn't even more difficult tbh u just have to get used to it

rustic vale
#

That’s the thing

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I only just started using fo at all because I’m trying to jump from 20 to 32 heat

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while using shackle and not picking up cores

lean timber
#

my dad was on forced overtime 2 last night i think i could barely dodge him

magic wave
#

What do I choose in pact to increase heat to 32, but without gettin my ass beaten?

#

I hate those flying gloves

#

half of runs stop cuz of em

mint coral
#

Ban wringers

boreal raven
#

I have a skill issue so I don't even use EM3

rustic vale
#

I think this is fastest I’ve cleared barge

#

Spreadfire zag rail 💪💪💪

mint coral
#

Spread fire zag rail so fun

lean timber
#

my favorite pact

rustic vale
#

Lemme grab a photo real quick

lean timber
#

lol

magic wave
#

woa

boreal raven
#

how garbage is em4 I've never tried it

lean timber
#

on its own it's eh

magic wave
lean timber
#

with other pacts it's pain

magic wave
#

1500 per the vase he spawns

boreal raven
#

yeah you only start using it at pretty high heat

#

I already get my ass kicked by em3 at 32 heat

magic wave
#

I was completing with EM4, but it was low heat run

latent moon
rustic vale
lean timber
latent moon
#

buddy i've beaten em4 once and that was the only pact condition i'm never doing that again

mint coral
#

Is fun

boreal raven
#

Oh banger ost now I gotta try it

lean timber
#

as soon as you enter the em4 fight you unlock the music of the fight on the music stand and you can buy it for 5 diamonds

#

it's worth it

mint coral
#

Is also a bunch of new dialogue for the first few time both at the surface and talking with dad in the house

rustic vale
#

I have the check mark above the music section so I assume I’ve fought em4 atleast once to have unlocked it’s song

lean timber
#

you must have

rustic vale
#

Entering fo2 em3 heroes fight with spreadfire zag rail, too much additive damage on my attack and a dream

mint coral
#

Just dont get hit

rustic vale
#

ok so

#

I walked in with 2dd’s

#

Walking out with 0

#

Fun

mint coral
#

Do you have rolls for the wells bouldy

#

Or the gold

rustic vale
#

got a touch of styx

#

phew

#

3 pom 1 centaur heart 1 hermes shop holy

mint coral
#

Wait touch?

rustic vale
#

Dd gaming

mint coral
#

Dds is kiss

rustic vale
#

wait

#

Meant kiss

#

I want to have a talk with whoever thought adding poison to styx was a good idea it’s so annoying

mint coral
#

Welcome to the house of hades?

rustic vale
#

no

#

Still have my dd

#

its just annoyingo

#

Did I say I had my dd still? Cuz now I don’t, thanks to my favourite part of styx

mental vale
#

arthur aura should negate poison imo

rustic vale
#

At least if you have the arthur special hammer

mental vale
#

actually greater consecration should make you impervious in the aura

#

😃👍

rustic vale
#

5 sack nooooo

latent moon
#

unmodded gaming

mental vale
#

cheat engine gaming

rustic vale
#

damn it I saw a well but no dd

#

purple greatest reflex though

lean timber
#

wait it disables floor traps, does poison not count as a floor trap when it procs on the ground??

rustic vale
#

nice

latent moon
signal aspen
lean timber
#

whaaaat

#

arthur is useless

#

typical sword L

signal aspen
#

so true

latent moon
#

it disables lava damage doesn't it

signal aspen
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

Damn I dropped antos at the wrong time

latent moon
#

meg gaming

rustic vale
#

Aphrodite call coming in clutch

signal aspen
#

aphro call kinda meg

rustic vale
#

noooooooooooooo

#

I had him at 25% hp in his second phase

signal aspen
#

what are you trying to do

rustic vale
#

32 heat shackle

signal aspen
#

rip

rustic vale
#

I just had spreadfire zag rail with a lot of additive

#

screw it I’ll use hestia

signal aspen
#

besty

rustic vale
#

I just want to put out there that my 32 heat shackle run with zag sword, flurry and piercing wave and +20% attack speed got to heroes

signal aspen
#

nice

rustic vale
#

it was very funn

#

I might start running abyssal blood

signal aspen
#

lmao

#

why

rustic vale
#

I’m already using shackle so the extra damage boiling is giving to attack and special is half as useful as normal

signal aspen
#

meh

#

i still think its better than abyssal

rustic vale
#

Taking less damage good

signal aspen
#

i have literally never used abyssal outside of beo and meme runs

lean timber
#

SO LAVA IS A TRAP NOT STYX POISON PUDDLE??

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

poison is dropped by those big rats

#

therefore not a trap

#

bcs it came from an enemy

lean timber
#

it is a trap because it restricts ground space and causes damage

#

if they dropped landmines that would be a trap

signal aspen
#

wait the green pots are still traps thanthink

lean timber
#

yeah!

signal aspen
#

this game does not know what a trap is

lean timber
#

this is crap arthur sucks

rustic vale
#

they aren’t coming from hades

#

like

signal aspen
#

i mean hades is spawning them

rustic vale
#

They aren’t biologically part of hades like the poison

#

right?

signal aspen
#

idk

#

game is confusing

rustic vale
#

Bouldy gave me ambiguity bonus 💪💪💪💪

signal aspen
#

literally cant lose now

rustic vale
#

Omg

#

Nevermind

#

I lose

lean timber
#

rats spit poison, poison covers ground, ground is covered by an area that causes damage, trap

rustic vale
#

It’s a bunch of savour numbskulls

#

A room full of them

lean timber
#

daedalus creates spike plates, plates cover ground, ground is covered by an area that causes damage, trap

signal aspen
#

by that logic the pots in tartarus that drop those bombs should be considered traps

#

but they arent

#

they arent affected by anything

rustic vale
#

Wait

#

No way

#

Hangover for the win

lean timber
#

yeah but those aren't triggered by touching the ground itself so it's not a trap

rustic vale
#

hangover >>> trillions of savior numbskulls

signal aspen
#

they get dropped on the ground

#

and when you step near them they blow up

#

right?

lean timber
#

yes but it's motion not contact

#

poison is caused by contact, spike plates are caused by contact

#

the bombs don't instantly detonate by contact so it's not a trap

rustic vale
#

I made it out alive only losing 1 dd thanks to hangover and rocket bomb

lean timber
#

amazing

signal aspen
#

why are you using dds

rustic vale
#

Uh

#

I can’t afford to use rerolls of wells for touch of styx because rolling away cores

lean timber
rustic vale
#

All hermes wants to give me is blue rd

#

I’ve got it every run I’ve played today

signal aspen
#

cheating

rustic vale
#

Yup

#

I’ve hacked my switch so he only gives me blue rd

#

Definitely

#

That’s definitely what is going on

#

So I just thought about it and realised I had +360% attack/dash strike along with dedge during my arthur run earlier

#

Because I was hitting for 460

dull niche
#

hackerman

rustic vale
#

Chaos loves me

#

so +100% from shackle, +75% from rd, +115% from chaos, +20% from dedge, +25%(I think) from ff and that still leaves about 25% unaccounted for

signal aspen
#

wouldve been so much more damage if you took pstatus 😔

rustic vale
#

Pstatus zagluv

#

I should probably start running lc4 and sd but I don’t especially like it

#

Hazard bomb shouldn’t be incompatable with rocket bomb

#

Wait with flurry shot for bow you still have a dash strike right

signal aspen
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

I just took a trove to drop my sd and was at 2hp

#

Somehow something did 1 damage to me

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Well it ain’t free healing when you have no charon jtems

#

Plus I’m running shackle

#

So no charon keepsake

#

I think dd is better for me and I should be running something other than sd lc4 because I don’t have the rerolls for charon wells and rolling away cores and I’m not picking up charon keepsake

#

And I’m not used to fo2

#

it all compiles to lc 4 sd having me lose earlier

#

I’m gonna switch somethjng up from my standard shackle gaming

still egret
#

Well this sucks! I was gonna post a pic of my Dusa plush that just arrived but I can’t post pics in this server 💔

rustic vale
#

Sending image links works

signal aspen
#

cp2 bouldy

#

is that thunderdash too

rustic vale
#

Yeah

signal aspen
#

🗿

rustic vale
#

Can’t dash strike when you have flurry slash shadesmile

#

That run was very funny

still egret
#

O

rustic vale
#

But

still egret
rustic vale
#

Yeah just grab the image link for the image you want

still egret
#

Already posted it to twitter so figured this would make it faster

deft canyon
#

Defeated Hades

#

Now way more stuff

#

My God a dusa plush?

rustic vale
#

I just accidentally bought an anvil on sword and lost dedge only to get dash nova and hoarding slash

#

So sad to see such a good run lost

#

Wait lmao how did I win

#

why isn’t artemis aid a prerequisite for heart rend shadegrief shadegrief

#

I was gonna do something like triple shot zag with aphro dash and arte call but then realised can’t get heart rend like that

empty spear
#

Man listening to in the blood again, thinking about the ending and this game all over again, I want to thank everyone at supergiant so much for this masterpiece of a game

rustic vale
#

Who at ssg decided zeus and athena dash would be yellow and have lightning bolts

#

Why

#

I mean the icons for them

lean timber
#

are the icons different?

rustic vale
#

Slightly

#

Athenas is more pale yellow

latent moon
rustic vale
#

I’m talking the dash icon

latent moon
#

oh dash

#

and thanks dyno

#

yeah it's just a slight color difference

#

ddash has purple and paler yellow

lean timber
#

colorblindness be like

#

(epic noises)

rustic vale
#

yeah but like its hard to tell the difference from a distance or in screenshots

rustic vale
#

How do you do a 0 boon run? Hope for 2 sack and use all rerolls on purging boons?

mint coral
#

Fathed authorithy strats 💪

#

But also depends on what you wanna define the 0 boons

#

Cuz for the dialogue for example you still can take non pommables-chaos boons

rustic vale
#

I define it as whatever qualifies me for the dialogue yeah

mint coral
#

Fathed authorithy can legit work

rustic vale
#

It’s on the list after completing an RI4 run and an EM4 run

mint coral
#

But you will have to sell 1 boon between biomes minimum unless you skip miniboss

rustic vale
#

I’m doing zeus zeus shield RI4 rn and only one dash is painful

brisk trail
#

yooo

#

i loove hades

rustic vale
#

Same

brisk trail
#

ay anyone knows how to see how many hours on hades i have? i got it from game pass

strong ridge
#

save file should have it i think

lean timber
#

if you're anything like me, your total number of hours equals your total escape attempts lol

latent yacht
#

if i have Ares attack and i get +74% attack damage (from Chaos) will the doom deal more or just the regular attacks?

rustic vale
#

Just regular attacks

#

and dash strikes*

latent yacht
#

thank you

rustic vale
#

That’ll be the same with zeus and dionysus

#

Zeus just doesn’t want to appear after I pick up his flourish on zeus shield why me

mint coral
#

you should be normalized to that considering all the time you played with OF

rustic vale
#

Not really

latent yacht
#

which aid do i go for?

#

demeter twin fist, i got merciful end

mint coral
#

have you seen hermes yet?

#

also is this all 4 god pools or only 3

hardy spear
#

i just go hades' aid whenever i dont have one

signal aspen
#

Zeus is generally the best call especially for ME builds

mint coral
#

what biome is this in 1st place

signal aspen
#

But if you have all 4 God's I don't think it's worth forcing

mint coral
#

seems like styx?

latent yacht
#

i got 2 hermes boons already, +10% special speed and +50% movement speed

#

this is asphodel

#

just finished it

signal aspen
#

4 God's?

#

Or only 3

#

Not including hermes or chaos

latent yacht
#

no idea what you mean by god pools

signal aspen
#

How many gods do you have

#

Meaning how man God's gave you boons

#

Many

#

Not including hermes or chaos

latent yacht
#

only 3

signal aspen
#

Probably force zeus

#

For the call

mint coral
#

tl;dr on god pool
game will offer all gods till you take 4 different ones then those 4 will be the only ones offered

#

not counting hermes, chaos as said before and some cases allow for higher god pools

latent yacht
#

also my special and dash will both get to higher rarity later, i got that demeter thingy

mint coral
#

heroic titan toppler lets go

#

but yeah il force zeus too

latent yacht
#

thank you

hardy spear
#

is dio aid any good

#

i take it as a budget zeus aid sometimes

latent moon
#

They're both really good

signal aspen
#

Very good

latent moon
#

Both have the highest call dps

#

Zeus becomes better if you get more supporting Zeus boons but Dio aid is still really strong

lean timber
#

dio aid is quite nice

hardy spear
#

sometimes i just feel like it takes too long for the damage to do anything because by the time ive got high stacks going the boss is impervious in a phase transition or something

#

or the enemy is already dead

mint coral
#

good thing about dio call is that it basically starts charging itself

#

also i hope you arent saving for full calls

hardy spear
#

i barely ever save for full calls unless its like artemis or aphro

latent yacht
#

got epic rarity zeus aid

#

poggers

hardy spear
pearl relic
#

hope to get that Hypnos heart unlock today

latent yacht
#

i am speed

rustic vale
#

You is speed

latent yacht
#

what are wr times? this is probably far from actual speedrun times but i feel like i did it fast

rustic vale
#

Some are like half that

#

Are you wondering any specific category of speedrunning or

#

Unseeded any heat is 5:16

latent yacht
#

bruh the wr is 5:16-

#

🗿

#

i am not speed

rustic vale
#

don’t worry about it

latent yacht
#

still my fastest run so i'm happy

#

i'm really starting to enjoy twin fists

#

ares attack + athena dash is fun

lean timber
#

he said the b word

rustic vale
#

merciful end is infact good yes

mint coral
lean timber
#

modded is literally 2m

mint coral
#

and if you want ridiculous runs look at the routed runs

lean timber
#

routed eris is so nuts

rustic vale
latent yacht
#

seeded runs ae probably insane

rustic vale
#

Oh you mean seeded

lean timber
#

seeded modded

#

i.e. full cheating

mint coral
#

seeded isnt exactly routed

lean timber
#

modded unseeded is just cheating lite

mint coral
#

most of the time seeded is just the first boon

rustic vale
#

Seeded modded is 6:18 that seems off

lean timber
#

we do light trolling

rustic vale
#

I’m looking at any heat rn

mint coral
rustic vale
#

so guys losing 3 dd’s to meg was actually rng manipulation

lean timber
#

i mean technically if you get majority 2+ exit rooms you're choosing your route so troll_face

#

it's routed no matter what

mint coral
#

stepping on lava is totally rng manip

rustic vale
mint coral
#

but tbh i also like to throw cast at random doors as if it does anything bouldy

#

or mash summon

lean timber
#

me injecting code into the bootloader to run street fighter 3rd strike and practicing the daigo parry is literally how i route my runs

rustic vale
#

dying to hades is actually rng manipulation for the next run shadesmile

snow skiff
#

Yeah it makes you start with heroic attack

rustic vale
#

Heroic hermes attack

mint coral
#

lvl 20 heroic swift strike

snow skiff
#

Start with secret boon swiftest strike

rustic vale
#

Dedge doesn’t make 2 piercing waves happen right

#

Only 1

hardy spear
#

you actually get 5 options when picking boons instead of 3

warm nimbus
#

pretty much no reason to

mint coral
#

seeded is the hall of shame if you forgot to record previous death

hardy spear
#

what if someone gets 2 back to back really good runs

rustic vale
#

Hehehee

hardy spear
#

is this dramatic irony

warm nimbus
#

many runs lost to that sadly

rustic vale
#

Does dying post hades count

mint coral
#

and yeah

warm nimbus
#

i have pbed on the first run of the day before, it happens

hardy spear
#

if i ever start taking speedrunning more seriously i dont think i would even bother trying to set up recording to submit a run because im on console bouldy

rustic vale
#

Just go out and buy a tripod

#

point it at the tv

#

have ingame timer up

mint coral
#

i mean as long everything shows you could probably record with your phone lmao

rustic vale
#

Yeah but you aren’t holding your phone and the controller

mint coral
#

duck tape it to your head

pearl relic
#

progress! Than was in front of Hypnos and he apologized to him. anyone know if this was one of the two last conversations they have before i get the unlock?

latent moon
#

or wear a bike helmet with a gopro on it

#

absolute gamer set up

mint coral
#

optimal recording set up

hardy spear
latent moon
#

the people verifying the run won't know if everything is showing lmao

rustic vale
#

as long as it has clear vision of the screen

#

it’s probably fine?

hardy spear
#

the ultimate gaming experience

rustic vale
#

or do they want those key input things as well

mint coral
#

nah

#

they just require save icon showing/pic of victory screen/no quit give up

#

and ofc not banned things like god mode/codex tech

hardy spear
#

gotta make sure you can see my string bean looking ass in the reflection

hardy spear
pearl relic
#

Hades hearts are unlocked!

#

whoever said about 10 hours was spot on

mint coral
#

@hardy spear

#

is awful

hardy spear
#

a very promising title and description

#

oh no

pearl relic
#

Hypnos, i meant

mint coral
#

you can guess why is banned bouldy

#

can still open it during igt paused rooms or boon selection

hardy spear
#

does the speedrunning community vote on these kind of bugs because i know some other games do

rustic vale
#

Why no shackle only speedrun category shadegrief

mint coral
#

have you checked category extension if boonless is there?

#

basically the same

mint coral
#

i joined way after it was banned but from what i've heared no one wanted to play like this

hardy spear
#

wdym it looks so fun

#

i get to see my favourite characters from the game hades and read about them

mint coral
#

zag shield has sub 6 now zagluv

rustic vale
quaint grail
latent moon
#

Time stalling for igt

rustic vale
#

speedrun strats

mint coral
#

codex pauses igt, spam to barely allow time passing and reaching an exit

rustic vale
#

It’s not about actually beating the game faster irl, it’s about beating the game faster in game

signal aspen
lean timber
#

i hate that i require so much sleep to function. otherwise i would be grinding 50 after work

#

but i need so much snoozing that i have to wait for my days off

mint coral
#

going from 40 to 50? gamer

lean timber
#

bananas wanted me to and i was gonna anyway

#

two days at a time is slow going tho...

warm nimbus
#

when you do 50, i really would not recommend hera

mint coral
#

i did 45>50

lean timber
#

i'm doing hera btw

mint coral
#

idk how big is 40>50

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

but go ahead lol

warm nimbus
lean timber
mint coral
warm nimbus
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50 heat hera means having to take really bad pacts for hera

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like ri/em4/ap2/cp2/dc

mint coral
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castpects moment (not you beo)