#h1-discussion

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mint coral
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Wasnt the first run the one with worbsetl5 pact?

lean timber
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pretty much this

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i just pulled this out of my *ss

latent moon
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js3 sounds like hell ngl

lean timber
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it wasn't the worst of it tbh

latent moon
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couldnt you turn up td and remove js

lean timber
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no bouldy

latent moon
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td gives more heat than js and less enemies = faster

lean timber
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td killed me first go around

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almost

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it took 2 stocks

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i don't do well with time

mint coral
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Whats your pb, as a note?

lean timber
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time or heat?

mint coral
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Tine

latent moon
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what weapon was it

mint coral
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*time

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Also heat too

lean timber
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lemme go check my funny record room

mint coral
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Big jumps are hard

lean timber
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hmmm... i guess i was wrong

latent moon
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16 to 32 can be pretty rough at the start but it's still doable with the right pact and build

lean timber
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my best heat is in fact only eight. on beowulf. 19:13

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rama is close behind at 19:17, but only 5 heat for whatever reason. i gotta start running bounties lol

latent moon
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i dont want to sound condescending or anything, but you should wait on the 32 heat

lean timber
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i wasn't expecting to finish the run lmfaoooo

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i was just trying it out

latent moon
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oh lmao

lean timber
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lol zag sword has 27 clears, my most used aspect apparently???

latent moon
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if you want to finish 32 as soon as possible then just pick a weapon/aspect and git gud with it so you can take it up to 32

lean timber
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i like bow best...

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eh idk. think i'm just gonna do it one at a time as "intended"

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no jumps

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but starting with hard pacts so i'm used to them by the time 32 rounds the corner

latent moon
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lmao you can jump from 16 to 32, that seems to be the most acceptable i think

latent moon
mint coral
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20 to 32 also works

lean timber
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those are hardest for me

latent moon
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EM as well actually

snow skiff
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Getting used to fo isn't bad

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It's like relearning the game at first but then it becomes second nature

latent moon
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the start is kinda bad but you can learn it pretty fast

snow skiff
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Like riding a bike that turns in the opposite direction

lean timber
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em is okay... it's not too hard. then again i've only ever done up to em3... haven't done hades yet

latent moon
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em3 is all you need for 32 heat

lean timber
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i'm fine with em atm.

snow skiff
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Em4 sux

latent moon
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em3 with fo2 you're gonna have to learn tho, bull go nyoom

lean timber
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let me check my mirror

latent moon
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not too bad once you get used to it obv but you want to at least take them together at some point

lean timber
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*pact

snow skiff
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Bull scary

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Theseus stays an L

latent moon
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actually true lmao

snow skiff
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Just a slightly more flashy L

latent moon
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theseus can shred acorn tho if you're not careful enough but whatever

lean timber
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lc and cf are ok on their own but together they're pretty hard for me to deal with tbh

snow skiff
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What

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..convenience fee?

lean timber
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ya

snow skiff
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Well imo u shouldn't really be using lasting consequences as filler heat anyway

latent moon
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i mean when you do 32 heat you wont need to take them together

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if you're just doing bounties just do whatever you want

lean timber
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...bouldy

snow skiff
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Em4 ri4 pact

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24 heat

lean timber
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ok forget i said that

snow skiff
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Routine inspection makes me sad

latent moon
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i've never taken it before because that thing is cursed

lean timber
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MM power couple is pretty hard... that's about all i worry about with that one. barge is okay, theseus doesn't change, butterfly ball... i forgot what that becomes

latent moon
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teleports around the room

lean timber
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oh yeah i do okay with that usually

latent moon
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but it stays in the middle long enough for you to meg it

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power couple, what you can do if you have SD LC4 chase the gorgon head and as soon as the stomper thingy is nearly down summon meg

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gorgon head teleports so be wary

lean timber
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fo is of course hard... hs is gonna be pain in styx... not touching RI unless hades himself signs me up for it... dc is weapon dependant... ap is not great but it's not intolerable... td is hard for me

latent moon
lean timber
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that's abt it for what i struggle with

latent moon
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32 heat doesn't need to run hs i believe

lean timber
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i wouldn't expect

latent moon
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DC isn't necessary either

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also makes using meg more difficult but manageable

lean timber
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i wonder how far i could get on an "accepted" 32 pact

latent moon
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oh AP also isn't necessary iirc but if you want to run it it can take some heat off

lean timber
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never running ap2 it will be the last heat i ever fill

latent moon
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lmao ap2 is terrible unless modded

lean timber
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but ap1 is 2 so that might be nice

latent moon
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do you have any idea what weapon you want to use?

lean timber
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i will run ri3 before ap2

latent moon
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well if you dont run ri3 and run ap2 you can at least reroll the 1 boon lmao

lean timber
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i love bow and i think it will do me well. honestly... i would love to run fists. but not with fo2

latent moon
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fair

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hera or zag bow might be some of the easier ones i think
rama if you think you can handle it with fo2

lean timber
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ok i'm trying 32 again now shadesmile

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i was running hera for these last attempts

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rama fo2 might challenge me a bit

latent moon
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do hera trippy flare no balls

lean timber
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no

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k HL5, LC2, JS3, EM3, CP2, BP2, MM, UC, FO1, HS, DC1

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here i gooo

latent moon
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JS3 CP2 oh god

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have fun with that lmao

lean timber
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is that rly that bad? maybe next run i'll use a normal pact

latent moon
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well like 60% more enemies i guess is manageable

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but then they also have 30% more hp which can suck

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more hits needed and more enemies to kill leaves a lot more room for error

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tbh i'd rather risk fo2 here and get rid of cp2 and some of js

snow skiff
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why is LC2

latent moon
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oh also that i was just about to ask

lean timber
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cuz i dunno how else to fill the heat

latent moon
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lc4 SD

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turn down HL5 a bit, could probably remove JS if you want

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and if you're gonna down JS and CP you can turn DC up a bit if you want

lean timber
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kill.

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kill.

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kill.

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kill.

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LC4, JS1, CP0, BP2, FO2, DC1

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misery

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autoaim is ruining my life!!!

lean timber
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i'm doing it... i made it to elysium...

mint coral
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Gaming

lean timber
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UC just almost ruined my life

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is flurry shot hera as good as they say? justified over perfect shot...?

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i've never taken flurry...

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except to fill the prophecy which quickly ended in suicide

mint coral
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Can be less safe if you dont drop the attack quick enough

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Is this first hammer?

lean timber
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was worried abt that

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2nd

mint coral
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Whats first

lean timber
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first was twin

mint coral
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Ah same run

lean timber
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nope different one

mint coral
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Hmm i personally would take flurry as it makes cast basically instant travel but going perfect is fine too

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Still good dmg for downtime between cast volleys

lean timber
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i think i'm gonna stick to what i know. i want to win this

warm nimbus
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dude holy what take flurry

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twin + flurry is already insane zag bow cheese

lean timber
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i have angered the gods!

mint coral
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Nah im with them, i wont take a hammer i barely know how to use lol

warm nimbus
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add on the fact that you are playing hera and its even better

warm nimbus
lean timber
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if i start eating chip because i don't drop attack quick enough i'm gonna throw my switch at the wall

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so i took power lmao

mint coral
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What was the 3rd option btw?

lean timber
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concentrated LMAO

mint coral
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Ah

lean timber
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should i have taken it bouldy

mint coral
lean timber
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speedrun strat?? concentrated point blank hera??

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new meta get on it

mint coral
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The old discussion was between flurry vs triple bouldy

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For 1st hammer

warm nimbus
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btw @lean timber if you ever decide to do zag bow and get offered flurry as second hammer take it

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it is ridiculously easy to use on zag bow

mint coral
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Yeah flurry is fun

lean timber
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zag is probably on my list somewhere

mint coral
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My 32 hera from earlier has it lol

lean timber
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also real quick BEFORE I COMMIT SUICIDE stubborn defiance gets used BEFORE SKELLY correct?? so i don't bone myself and lose skelly dd?

mint coral
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Yeah

lean timber
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ok. took skelly in ely because i am scared

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i will now blow myself tf up

mint coral
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Wait do you have athena in your pool/know about dds trick?

lean timber
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i do have athena in my pool yes. what is the trick? some funky dd mischief?

mint coral
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Also tooth is fine if scared of normal rooms-bull

mint coral
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Then sd regens next room

warm nimbus
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and sd gets used before the dd

lean timber
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so i just have to suicide before taking it. got it. next room is athena. 3 lives sd gaming?

warm nimbus
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that would be incredibly based

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remember to use your sd before you pick up the boon

mint coral
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Remember you need an athena core too before they show up

lean timber
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yeah i have special athena

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(gaming)

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would love dash almost as much tho...

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bronze bull time. wish me luck

mint coral
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Have fun with the spin

lean timber
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excuse me.

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exit wounds and athena call saved my life. i'm poopin myself rn

mint coral
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It do be like that

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What chamber you are in?

lean timber
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  1. christ.
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the end is nigh.

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if i can beat them... i'm good.

mint coral
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Praying for patty

lean timber
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epic bronze skin or divine dash?

mint coral
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Divine dash

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Idk man as someone with-

lean timber
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surely dash but geez, that bronze skin might make a difference now that i'm hl5 gaming

mint coral
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You already have weak

lean timber
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ja

mint coral
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Dr is multiplicative so it aint doing much

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Also remember to check ur wells for cast dmg/+1 casts/touch of styx

lean timber
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hmm wait that's true. why do i feel like i'm taking full damage? hl5 gaming

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yep i'm checking every single darned well i come across

mint coral
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Or they might hit you without weak applied-just ran out

lean timber
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k tooth is gone.

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i'm scared

warm nimbus
mint coral
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How is the timer going?

lean timber
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HAHAHAHAHA

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HOW IS THE TIMER GOING he asks me

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sir i turned off td entirely because i was simply getting stomped by it

mint coral
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Ah lmao

lean timber
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but if you must know, chamber 33, 19:07

mint coral
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Wait whats your current pact then

lean timber
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sigh

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gimme a sec

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HL5, LC4, JS1, EM3, BP2, MM, UC, FO2, DC1

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🦍

mint coral
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Gaming

lean timber
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i'm so scared i still have tooth hp left but man

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i'm losing it kinda quick!

mint coral
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No patty?

lean timber
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no. c34 and he's not on the doors

mint coral
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Finally an opportunity to post this

latent moon
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good meme

lean timber
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died.

latent moon
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certified patty moment

lean timber
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savior linker exalted greatspears.

latent moon
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oof

warm nimbus
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god i love that

lean timber
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well... c35... not so bad...

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maybe next time

mint coral
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Wait c35? Did you take an extension earlier

lean timber
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how does hera even handle that...?

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not in elysium. no idea what happened

mint coral
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I mean in tart-aspho

lean timber
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oh. i took 2 chaos. is that what killed me

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DID CHAOS KILL ME

mint coral
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Nah was wondering cuz normally c35 is the shop before heroes-free reward

lean timber
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yeah it should have been and i knew that...

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i don't know how it got extended

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game punished my hubris i guess

latent moon
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chaos before end shop probably

lean timber
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kinda sad about that

mint coral
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If you took erebus-chaos at c12-22 that explains it

warm nimbus
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if you take a chaos in c12/c22/c34 that adds an extra chamber onto the biome

lean timber
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it was c12.

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ugh.

warm nimbus
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it didnt kill you though

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you had the same combat count as if you wouldnt have

lean timber
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oh. that makes sense i guess. i didn't know what conditions extended

mint coral
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When in doubt, blame bp2

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It can be nasty

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Also that was a lot better of an attempt at hera 32 than my first one ages ago lol

lean timber
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oh i'm blaming it. how does hera deal with savior anything on dc1 and js. they just kept giving each other armor hearts. what do i even DO THEY BECAME BASICALLY INVINCIBLE

mint coral
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That one got sent home at like c28 lmao

lean timber
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THIS HAPPENS EVERY RUN WITH BP FOR ME

mint coral
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Or if you can get away with no divine dash can use drunk-blade dash

warm nimbus
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and then also for saviors try grouping them together

lean timber
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why? first attack does almost nothing, cast is the damage

mint coral
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Also yeah hera suffers a bit on heat, and that gets aplified the higher you go

warm nimbus
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just like beo with cshot

lean timber
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dc feels like "ok i'm ignoring your attack but oh i'm still gonna get murked by these casts that do 200 each"

warm nimbus
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its a lot easier to kill things without dc

lean timber
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well of course it is

warm nimbus
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right so like dont take it lol

latent moon
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not having dc also makes your runs faster, the initial hit does like 100some or whatever idrk i've only been playing rama

mint coral
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In words of Nyaanyaa "acorn is the strongest defensive keepsake in the game and you are giving them 1-2 charges to all enemies"

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They also get a free no stun

warm nimbus
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the initial hit you get from like arty attack + ff +fiery does like 150 damage (no crit)

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which is a lot

lean timber
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lol fiery presence

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is that heat approved?

warm nimbus
lean timber
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figures

warm nimbus
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so like

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dont take dc

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unless youre playing rama

lean timber
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yeh i got that. i just don't know what to sub

latent moon
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only take dc if you're playing like rama or fists

lean timber
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rama eats dc for breakfast lol

warm nimbus
latent moon
lean timber
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i can't make it bro i just can't do it

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td1 might be tight... but maybe i could do it with sd and lc4...

latent moon
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td1 is a 36 minute run and you got to chamber 35 at like 20 minutes you're fine

lean timber
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just maybe

latent moon
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like actually

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with dc

warm nimbus
latent moon
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TD1 is def manageable if you're pulling that off

warm nimbus
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yeah youre completely fine with td1 lmao

lean timber
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well alright... that's a decent point actually

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alright. one more shot. i can do this

latent moon
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ngl i find it impressive that took you 20 minutes with dc 1

mint coral
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How was the hermes on the run?

lean timber
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it was ok. i had ummm... 10% dodge and rare quick reload? not the worst esp for heat

mint coral
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Quick reload on hera is goated

lean timber
mint coral
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Specially if you get tanky enemies

lean timber
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it feels so right

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also had epic exit wounds as a bonus

mint coral
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But yesh you can see a little bit the problem of hera at high heat

lean timber
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yep

mint coral
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Either your build starts to fall off/cant kill enemies on time or plain both lmao

lean timber
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twin shot helps a lot with dc tho... if i got that again i could do it...

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ahh i'm too stubborn

mint coral
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How sage you consider yourself at aspho?

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*safe

lean timber
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it's not skelly worthy for me. i took it in ely

mint coral
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Can try to force dem then

lean timber
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my dashes and directionals are pretty ok

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for snow burst? doesn't that proc at zag when he loads cast in, not at the arrow?

mint coral
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Snowburst also helps with finishing off the stupid eyes in ely

mint coral
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Is also chill which counter fo

lean timber
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i would rather force athena for call and dash...

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but i can try that

mint coral
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Cant go wrong with that too

lean timber
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damn saviors have eaten me up too much

mint coral
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Gettong cores for chance at dds gud

latent moon
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rng into demeter/athena tart and get the other in aspho ez

mint coral
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That too lmao

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"just get the boons™"

warm nimbus
lean timber
warm nimbus
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sometimes i trick myself into just randomly loading all 3 cast in trying to kill numbskulls with snow burst and then i have to unload them by shooting them

mint coral
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Praying for your chaos boons to be croven tier boons

warm nimbus
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definitely use snow burst to kill the warrior souls though

latent moon
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"don't take PS if you're doing ap2 you're never gonna get snow burst"
me: gets demeter tart on attack and reliably chill every enemy

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Also just wondering, whats your mirror looking like?

warm nimbus
latent moon
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lmfao

lean timber
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ok new pact: HL5, LC4, JS1, EM3, BP2, MM, UC, FO2, TD1. let me go get mirror

latent moon
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just get the boons™️

lean timber
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mirror is maxed btw

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flipped to fiery because DC off, chthonic, sd, greater reflex, boiling, infernal, deep pockets, thick skin, fam fave, dark foresight, pride, persuasion

latent moon
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pact looks solid to me for not running td3 imo

lean timber
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thanks i tried to mix match

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Gaming mirror

lean timber
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yeah i simply can't. i dunno how y'all do it

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Practice dusa

lean timber
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td2 would send me into overtime, let alone td3 killing me in c10 lol

lean timber
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i'm not that dumb anymore y'all beat that one out of me pretty quick

warm nimbus
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no seriously its better for high heat

lean timber
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explain.

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feel free to share

mint coral
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You are on lc4

warm nimbus
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it just is, youll get more healing from it

lean timber
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you're so full of it

warm nimbus
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same way abyssal is just better on beo

lean timber
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HAHA

warm nimbus
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anyways feel free to change to dark regen for the memes on lc4 lmao

latent moon
warm nimbus
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otherwise that mirror is perfect

mint coral
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Cf on cast build cringe

lean timber
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HL is maxed... cf and js don't work for me

latent moon
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yeah exactly

warm nimbus
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dont listen to @patent mesa about js

lean timber
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how am i missing 5 heat? i'm at 32 i'm looking at it rn

warm nimbus
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js sucks

latent moon
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oh i should be clear, you're missing the 5 heat from not running td3

lean timber
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i did js max for my first try

warm nimbus
latent moon
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ye

lean timber
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ah. yeah nope

warm nimbus
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and putting it into hl is def the right play (if not doing td3)

lean timber
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i learned it all thru osmosis from listening to you guys talk about ur builds and pacts

latent moon
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CF cringe, but not the worst thing if you really despise JS

lean timber
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cf is too cringe for me

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bad!

latent moon
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based

mint coral
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Taking hs would been funny i think

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No dc no td, just dodge traps

lean timber
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ah yes suicide 400% quicker!

mint coral
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Actual benefit for tight deadline lmao

lean timber
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ok here we go.

snow skiff
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if you're ever running CF just remove both the CF points and add an RI

mint coral
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Sd resetting takes ages on traps

snow skiff
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certified method of winning

latent moon
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RI based

latent moon
warm nimbus
latent moon
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get egged

mint coral
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Doesnt egg deal 15

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Oh wait

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Dumb bouldy

lean timber
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NOOOO ARES GET AWAY FROM ME

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AAAAUUUUUGH

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absolutely amazing spawn rng tho getting like 3 enemies per chamber with js1

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ok heroic doom on attack? what do we think...? (guessing meh)

mint coral
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Ares is "fine* all around uc fodder lmao

lean timber
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or epic battle rage...

mint coral
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What attack you have

lean timber
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aphro because stingy with rolls

mint coral
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reset

lean timber
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nah fr?? that bad??

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i'm taking epic battle rage we'll see what happens. can't reset unmodded so might as well try it

mint coral
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Casts want poms, missing the early ones before you get a lot of boons can hurt

warm nimbus
mint coral
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But depending on your hammers you probably can do bad zag bow lol

snow skiff
sudden summit
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Is Hades still worth playing rn ?

mint coral
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But battle rage on zag bow/hestia is funny anyway

snow skiff
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blood frenzy sounds too high risk for me

lean timber
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nah blood frenzy is good but battle rage is also worth something

mint coral
lean timber
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artemis roll??

mint coral
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At 30% hp constantly chances are is just a global dmg for that chamber

warm nimbus
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its also unpommable

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Urge to kill also kinda smth for casts?

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No much cast dmg% out there

lean timber
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ok this is a stellar run so far fountain chamber and only missed one cast pom so far let's go

void vigil
lean timber
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urge to kill goes hard bro

void vigil
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however its extremely unlikely there will be new updates and patches

sudden summit
mint coral
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I still find it funny bouldy can match the stats of urge to kill (even if only 1 slot lol)

warm nimbus
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and no hyper delivery is not cheating

mint coral
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You are taking HS/greater haste into account it doesnt count

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Unless you use plume for it then remove it

lean timber
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chaos time??

latent moon
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i like how someone asked if Hades is worth playing while 4 people are passionately discussing the game and ignoring them lmao

warm nimbus
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i didnt see the question 😔

lean timber
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gaming

latent moon
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thank you moderator

warm nimbus
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also yes thanks

mint coral
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Didnt know how to answer bouldy

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Like yeah i love the game but is like "idk its pretty?"

lean timber
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ungh [moans]
dash strike +110%, +1 bloodstone, +75 attack?? what is this chaos bro

warm nimbus
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10/10

mint coral
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There has to be a catch

latent moon
warm nimbus
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yeah what are the curses

lean timber
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inferno-bomber, cannot collect for 11.25s, hidden chamber rewards in that order

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tbh... feeling dash strike

warm nimbus
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oh definitely not the second one

lean timber
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ya

warm nimbus
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and definitely not the last one

latent moon
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inferno bomber doesn't sound too bad and like the only option

lean timber
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dash strike time

mint coral
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Enshroudded kinds free

lean timber
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i already have hunter dash

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Just get the rooms!

latent moon
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exactly

lean timber
latent moon
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get the midshop and bouldy ez

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at the same time tho, you're only dash striking anyways

warm nimbus
latent moon
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first one has a bigger number and better curse

warm nimbus
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that was so funny but why did it have to be pos sword bouldy

latent moon
mint coral
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Unless is like c11/c12 then its legit free

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Specially if its only 1 exits

warm nimbus
#

yeah c11/12/21/22/33/34 enshrouded is free

lean timber
#

yeah i know it was c10 but it wasn't great i hate hidden

#

aaaand garbage hammer

latent moon
#

poggers

lean timber
#

God. this run was so good.

mint coral
#

Special only time?

lean timber
#

triple and point blank...

warm nimbus
#

triple is really good

mint coral
lean timber
#

hera tho

warm nimbus
#

yeah

#

its really good

lean timber
#

is he joking i can't tell

mint coral
#

No joke

warm nimbus
#

its best hera hammer if youre bad at flurry

lean timber
#

ah. well... alright then. but why? what makes it good?

mint coral
#

I told you earlier for speedruns there was discussion between flurry vs triple

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

it never seems to help me very much...

mint coral
#

Is great dmg while casts stuck

#

Tho gotta shotgun with it to give the dmg

latent moon
#

point blank enemies so all 3 can hit for beeg damage

#

on the other hand, you can still just play it normally and be pleasantly surprised when you hit something you weren't aiming at

mint coral
#

Point blank is aight too if you wanna keeo going till 2nd hammer for chance at twin

lean timber
#

js1 skullomat room... bomb curse got me

#

that's ok actually. i didn't like that run

mint coral
#

I like point blank more than perfect for hera too

#

Ah rip

lean timber
#

run er back

warm nimbus
#

the best hammers for zag bow are the best hammers for hera (except for hera flurry is best)

lean timber
#

k saviors still give dc hearts. was no one gonna tell me that or

#

savior linker numbskulls + skullomat chamber

#

kill

mint coral
#

I thought you knew

lean timber
#

did not know that

#

but we trudge on

mint coral
#

Savior can die anyways

#

Stop messing with fiery pls bouldy

lean timber
#

k twin shot rolled into artemis let's go

#

wdym?

mint coral
#

Savior doesnt allow me to use fiery well on rail for example

lean timber
#

oh ur talking to the game not me lol

mint coral
#

A rocket bomb boosted by eris +fp is heavy dmg to a lot of things in tart

#

Ah yeah

lean timber
#

twin shot, crush shot + heroic artemis atk + marked, all before the furies

#

thank you AP and RI for not being mandatory

#

on td2 pace rn

latent moon
#

heck yeah buddy

lean timber
#

hermes or chaos

#

nah i alr know the answer nvm

warm nimbus
#

yeah hermes shows up later lol

#

chaos does not

lean timber
#

ah yes. exactly what i chose.

#

i just worry abt missing the 2nd one i guess

#

got epic quick reload tho so think it paid off

warm nimbus
#

not very likely if you only skip 1

warm nimbus
#

epic quick reload = win

lean timber
#

see with that i always figure ahh i'l find a well and get light of ixion! hermes i can't force! yk

#

oh well. on to the next chamber

#

MM barge.

warm nimbus
#

anyways for future reference alway choose chaos

warm nimbus
#

mm barge is fun

lean timber
#

that took 12 seconds. holy crap

#

meg goes nasty i always forget to use her. a consequence of 0 heat!

#

epic exit wounds ok i win

latent moon
#

not having more than 1 cast on trippy beo feels like a really crappy zag shield charged shot run every 3 seconds

lean timber
#

lernie dead, actually on td3 pace rn

warm nimbus
#

thats why i dont like trippy beo

lean timber
#

i am going to say a bad word

latent moon
#

found a stone in a well in styx and have 2 chances at it

#

already prided into mirage shot somehow

#

lmfao i got it let's go

lean timber
#

what can i do to remove EM3, i wonder...

latent moon
#

td3 i think lmao

#

maybe ap1 and something else but td3 sounds the best imo

lean timber
#

TD2 + CP1

#

again...

warm nimbus
#

cp1 at 32 heat is just bouldy

snow skiff
rustic vale
lean timber
#

i got bronze bulled btw

rustic vale
lean timber
#

can still get touch of styx dd with sd right?

latent moon
#

yeah

lean timber
#

ok i kept having nightmares of being one frame too slow and taking thousands of damage in one room

#

maybe i need help

frail wedge
#

Just completed EM4 Hades for the first time

#

Chiron ME

mental vale
mint coral
#

Why is the game rigged each time i do fists lmao

#

Both dem 32 and now talos has splitting bolt in tart

lean timber
#

talos

#

lol

mint coral
#

Im going all aspects 32 heat so yeah

#

Also i dont have a zag sword win lmao

lean timber
#

do you guys always take kiss of styx if you find it no matter what just for the suicide potential?

lean timber
mint coral
#

Suuure

lean timber
mint coral
#

Safety nets gud

lean timber
#

they feel slower i'm telling you!! zag sword changes you

mint coral
#

Keyword on "feel"

lean timber
#

17.6% slower

#

i swear bro right hand in the air zag sword is a game changer for the other swords

#

you will feel the difference i promise

acoustic bolt
#

are you supposed to be able to get multiple charon sacks in a run?

lean timber
#

theoretically i don't see why not... 22% chance could re-roll but you shouldn't get another loyalty card. tho i've never heard of it

#

guess if you like midshops...

acoustic bolt
#

i wasn't going to fight him again to find out

#

i just didn't know that was even possible

lean timber
#

if you're seeing it unmodded then i guess it is!

#

fight him again and see if you get another loyalty card for 44% off

acoustic bolt
#

it's not unmodded but i thought i turned the charon sack thing off. there's some mod in the speedrun pack that guarentees it and that sounded not fun

mint coral
#

Once you fight him once it shouldnt appear again

#

I think...

lean timber
#

i kinda didn't think so?

#

i have no idea tbh

#

sounds a bit broken to see it twice

acoustic bolt
#

i didn't take it anyway but i'll have to double check the mods

#

might just delete that one

lean timber
#

300 obol sack every single midshop for the rest of time clueless

acoustic bolt
#

lol it hasn't appeared it every shop but it did appear twice

rustic vale
#

If I lose 2nd hermes in an erebus gate does that no 2nd hermes

acoustic bolt
#

No it shouldn't

#

That's not how the bags work. They only care about what you have. Might be a bit before you see another Hermes though

warm nimbus
#

seeing hermes on erebus gate is annoying but hell show up again later

#

well, most of the time

acoustic bolt
#

I guess depending on where you are in the run it's possible you get unlucky. How many items are in the bag? I didn't count

rustic vale
#

Does double strike work on jolted? and does jolted trigger splitting bolt?

mint coral
#

Yes x2

warm nimbus
#

does splitting bolt trigger jolted?

rustic vale
#

Today I learned that pos dash isn’t a prerequisite for sea storm shadegrief

acoustic bolt
#

really? it bugs me every run i have poseidon lol

warm nimbus
#

that was one of the nerfs they made to eris around release date lmao

#

and its really annoying

patent mesa
mint coral
#

Ah alright

patent mesa
#

you can take three because the mod just forces it unconditionally

mint coral
#

Thats funny

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

yeah and probably should be fixed since that's exhibiting behavior impossible to get in vanilla

warm nimbus
#

i didnt realize that was the case lmao

patent mesa
#

I don't recall if loyalty is additive or multiplicative

mint coral
#

I doubt is gonna get fixed se as quitting and exit to allow the 4 boons tl show up again

patent mesa
#

@snow skiff which is it

mint coral
#

Is just gonna get disqualified for leader boards

lean timber
#

correct me if i'm wrong but patty on lc4 with full dd's does nothing?

patent mesa
lean timber
#

i'm in ely again :)

mint coral
#

Lc4 dds?

patent mesa
#

in fact I think quitting out can remove the guaranteed charon sack

mint coral
#

Or you mean sd + dds

lean timber
patent mesa
lean timber
#

more artemis time

patent mesa
#

well you can get the jerky

#

jerky's good

mint coral
#

Wait but why are you doing lc4 and dds

patent mesa
#

because he's a gamer

mint coral
#

Ig lol

warm nimbus
#

now if you were on sds youd get tosd smh

lean timber
#

not dd's

patent mesa
#

damn were you RI4ing it up

mint coral
acoustic bolt
#

i thought i had turned off the charon thing but it was on that's why i got 3

lean timber
#

that is my "dd"

mint coral
#

🗿

#

Patty doesnt offer kiss of styx on sd

lean timber
#

oh? what does he...

#

what does he offer

mint coral
#

It offers touch of styx dark (+50% healing for sd for 14 chambers)

#

So a 80% revive

lean timber
#

ok you guys could have told me that.

#

that would be amazing

warm nimbus
#

you couldve read the label bouldy

mint coral
#

They asked before choosing

lean timber
#

I DIDN'T ENTER HIS CHAMBER

warm nimbus
#

bruh

mint coral
#

And was told it does nothing with full dds

lean timber
#

WHY WOULD I ENTER HIS CHAMBER IF I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA GIVE ME SOMETHING I CAN'T USE

mint coral
#

Not their fault lmao

lean timber
#

grr

patent mesa
#

bruh

#

you just lost the best chamber pickup possible

warm nimbus
#

i mean tbf you shouldve also just taken the free room lmao

lean timber
#

whatever tho, no prob. got thru bull with tooth intact

lean timber
mint coral
#

This is still hera right

lean timber
#

ya

warm nimbus
#

anyways yeah patty is literally the best thing you can possibly get in high heat

#

and tbf you did keep saying dds and not sd bouldy

lean timber
#

cuz skelly is technically a dd in certain terms

#

i didn't think it mattered

warm nimbus
#

like

lean timber
#

got skelly + athena dds so idc i got this

#

shutty mouth i know what i did i get it

warm nimbus
#

oh damn

lean timber
#

not complaining

mint coral
#

Absolute safe lol

warm nimbus
#

also acorn better than skelly for dad tbh

lean timber
#

i'm gaming

latent moon
#

simply do not throw

warm nimbus
#

esp bc youre on hl5

lean timber
#

on fo2 tho?

warm nimbus
#

yes

#

fo or not doesnt make a difference

lean timber
#

ah yes hl5... good point...

#

oh boy

warm nimbus
#

dad does like 50+ damage per hit lmao

lean timber
#

don't get me nervous

latent moon
#

hl5 dad hits hard lol 3 hits is gonna do over 100 damage

warm nimbus
#

its ok though hera has insane burst damage

#

you got this

mint coral
#

Being safe from boiling blood hits also gud

warm nimbus
#

oh yeah sometimes dad will do like 80 damage in a single hit lmao

#

hence acorn good

patent mesa
#

what's max non trap damage

#

boiling spear throw?

lean timber
#

9999 bouldy

warm nimbus
#

or is that 200

mint coral
#

Dog hitting you is 100 or 200

warm nimbus
#

oh yeah dog is 200

#

wait with boiling is that 400 lmao

#

i think thats more than a pot

#

by about 100 damage

lean timber
#

i got five sacked.

#

i got

#

FIVE

#

SACKED

#

I HAVE THIRTY SECONDS TO BEAT HADES

latent moon
#

ez

warm nimbus
#

rip

latent moon
#

how much hp do you have left rn?

warm nimbus
#

^^

#

with enough hp and burst damage you might have like 2 minutes

lean timber
#

i did not succeed. thanks styx

warm nimbus
#

rip

#

that sucks

latent moon
#

very cool styx

mint coral
#

Styx moment

lean timber
#

i'm really genuinely unironically upset about that. i would have won if the timer hadn't killed me along with dad doing his thing

#

actually dad wasn't more than half of it. the timer did me in again...

latent moon
#

certified styx moment

warm nimbus
mint coral
#

Valid to be annoyed lol

warm nimbus
#

and yeah^

mint coral
#

Styx very uncool

lean timber
#

but td2 is doable. em3 is pretty rough so i'm ok with the swap off. just gotta do it again and get a better tunnel

#

skill issue of the highest caliber tbh

mint coral
#

Oh em2 gaming? Nice

lean timber
#

this is fun even if i do get a bit salty sometimes

#

yeah em3 asterius was too much for me with all the new pact challenges

mint coral
#

Makes sense

lean timber
#

i turned off em3, turned up td2, and added cp1? i think

warm nimbus
#

thats pretty good

lean timber
#

but something like that. it's doable

#

no no i have it off rn

warm nimbus
#

ohh

mint coral
#

I mean if you got to dad you basically already done

#

Just dont get cgull tier rooms

lean timber
#

yeah and i was too essentially

deft canyon
#

U can fish in that game too?

#

So it's a Dungeon game

#

Dating sim

#

Visual Novlf

#

And a fishing game

lean timber
#

had parting shot too. it was pretty good

deft canyon
#

And it didn't won GOTY?

lean timber
#

all things considered really good run

#

i thought it did win goty?

deft canyon
#

Nope lost to The last of us 2

signal aspen
#

how can it win goty

latent moon
#

lmfao

deft canyon
#

This game is amazing

lean timber
#

wdyt noob, parting shot or common blown kiss? did i make the right decision

#

and the rest of u too

latent moon
#

what does blown kiss do again

deft canyon
#

A Indie Game

signal aspen
lean timber
#

shoots farther + stronger against undamaged opps 50% -> 100%

signal aspen
#

take parting shot

warm nimbus
deft canyon
#

Made it into nominations for GOTY

mint coral
deft canyon
#

Indie Games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AAA Games.

lean timber
#

how is it bugged?

deft canyon
#

Most AAA dames

warm nimbus
#

parting shot i take to sell for big money

signal aspen
lean timber
#

figured as much tbh. it was actin a lil wonky last time i used it

mint coral
#

It tends to pass the enemy if you dont undershoot

deft canyon
#

And I wondered how u can darn stuff so quickly in Hades

#

It's fishing

mint coral
#

And if you have flurry you cant undershoot

lean timber
#

ok good i picked right for the wrong reasons

deft canyon
#

Sadly i need 1 diamond

#

But when i got it its fishing time

lean timber
#

i wish i had flurry. only had triple + uhhh i forgot what else

lean timber
#

too bad you don't have a rod clueless

#

wonder how you can get one of those

deft canyon
#

Hmm need to kill a hydra with a weapon i haven't killed it

#

Hmmm

latent moon
#

the fishing minigame doesn't pop up that often and you can't always go around fishing lmao

deft canyon
#

Fists yes

#

Sword yes

#

GUN yes

#

Bow yes

#

I think shield not

#

Spear too

lean timber
#

even if u see it once every 30 chambers it's broken

deft canyon
#

Yep

latent moon
#

i never said it wasn't i just said it doesn't show up that often lol

deft canyon
#

The rewards are great

patent mesa
#

god I hate fishing so much

lean timber
latent moon
signal aspen
deft canyon
#

U can get alot of more stuff than dungeon runs sometimes

latent moon
#

it was fun and then td and speedrunning happened

deft canyon
#

I still need to kill Hades still

#

Lost 2 times to him

short glen
#

I hate fishing because my reaction time is slightly too slow to get perfect catches with any consistency at all

lean timber
#

epic crush shot lv. 6, athena's aid (def huge help), quick reload, exit wounds, parting shot. it was so good... i could have won...

deft canyon
#

He does 30 damage and i can half him lol

#

I remember having the chill damage over time effect plus hangover

#

That combo was fun

lean timber
#

after work i'm grinding... i'm jumping from 8 to 32 and i'm not taking no for answer cuz i can do this

#

SO doable. just have to get a little lucky

signal aspen
#

do 8 to 50

short glen
#

8 to 63

gray apex
#

I jumped from 8 to 50

warm nimbus
#

lmao

lean timber
#

yeah 32 is my limit

#

for now

acoustic bolt
#

Unrelated to the game but has anybody else been following the progress of Epic: The Musical? Based on the Odyssey? I can't stop thinking about it while playing.

#

Poseidon ruining Odysseus' homecoming

lean timber
#

throwback to the queen's plan prophecy when i got zeus' favor done during a run that i gave up on and it took me 10 runs to get his favor done again

warm nimbus
#

oh yeah i still need to do epilogue bouldy

lean timber
#

aren't u on pretty high heats

warm nimbus
#

yeah

#

i just havent maxed out very many gods bonds

#

because i keep forgetting to

lean timber
#

is your mirror maxed?

warm nimbus
#

yeah lmao

#

although maybe fated authority isnt

snow skiff
snow skiff
#

Ohhh tocuh of stux dark

lean timber
#

i have the story and the mirror done and all that. all i need to "beat" the game is a 32 heat clear and a bit more blood

#

for aspects that i will never ever use

warm nimbus
#

i mean after 32 you can do 40

#

then 45

#

then 50

#

then 53

#

55

#

60

#

62

#

64

signal aspen
#

66

warm nimbus
#

how

lean timber
#

it's just funny, your heat is way higher than mine but you don't have the "story" done. what's 53?

warm nimbus
#

heat

lean timber
#

64 heat pact + PL twice

#

(for fun)

warm nimbus
#

upon taking damage you take it twice more?

lean timber
#

correct

#

boiling blood go brr

snow skiff
signal aspen
#

enemies get a shield whenever they take a bunch of damage

snow skiff
#

Enemies get broken Spearpoint

acoustic bolt
#

@wooden dagger messaging here so it's in the correct channel.

lean timber
#

for that to work you would have to be considered an endboss

patent mesa
#

CP66 is +990% hp

#

epic

signal aspen
lean timber
#

get spambotted

acoustic bolt
#

dang it bot i'm trying to help someone

signal aspen
#

no helping here

warm nimbus
#

@acoustic bolt You're posting links too fast.

patent mesa
#

actually CP64 is probably faster than JS64

signal aspen
acoustic bolt
#

@warm nimbus your face is posting links too fast

warm nimbus
#

except for aspho bouldy

signal aspen
patent mesa
#

touch lava for instant death

signal aspen
#

dont have to do all that bouldy

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

JS64 TD3: VineBoom

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

just get free rooms

warm nimbus
#

wait

signal aspen
#

and enemies with the biggest difficulty rating

warm nimbus
#

you know what the easiest aspect for hs64 would be

signal aspen
#

itll take like 40 mins max

lean timber
signal aspen
acoustic bolt
#

@wooden dagger the speedrunning server has a speedrun modpack that's like 90% of the mods worth using. Ello's dps isn't in that though, and the other really cool one, Olympus Extra that adds Apollo is also not there. Those are on nexusmods though

warm nimbus
#

arthur would actually be good

acoustic bolt
patent mesa
#

arthur for sure is my pick

snow skiff
#

Hs64 = just play normally

warm nimbus
#

same even though i dont know how to play arthur i can definitely beat 0 heat with it

snow skiff
#

Smh

lean timber
#

oh yeah disables floor traps

warm nimbus
#

anyways i just fc choked a top play in osu very much sad

lean timber
#

hmm actually... that's a pretty good power all things considered. maybe i was wrong about arthur...

signal aspen
snow skiff
#

Arthur can be good tbh i'm just awful

patent mesa
#

I'll actually try CP64

boreal raven
snow skiff
#

Attack combo too hard

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

best build? hunting blades?

signal aspen
lean timber
snow skiff
#

WINTER HARVEST !!!!

patent mesa
#
  • legendary
acoustic bolt
#

arthur is more excruciating to play than explosive shot imo

warm nimbus
signal aspen
#

yeah winter harvest gets extra value

warm nimbus
#

vicious cycle moment

#

also take blade dash and ares call

patent mesa
#

that makes sense

#

sad to have to use ares call though

lean timber
#

[three days later] ok guys made it to c5

signal aspen
#

why would you need ares call

#

🗿

snow skiff
#

gonna prank randy when he finishes cp64

#

Day 1

patent mesa
#

full call vs bosses with legendary

snow skiff
#

Day 2

warm nimbus
#

ddamage/dt is going to be linear due to vicious cycle so thats pretty epic

snow skiff
#

Day 742

patent mesa
#

lmao

acoustic bolt
#

don't most of those blade boons not effect the call or dash?

signal aspen
lean timber
#

legendary does

signal aspen
#

with vicious cycle its gonna be like 5 beo casts

snow skiff
#

Ares aid is asss

lean timber
#

wrong

#

it needs some love but it can be good

warm nimbus
raw herald
#

No

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

a full ares call does like 1k damage bouldy

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

enters chat, "no," does not elaborate

signal aspen
warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

I wonder what best companion would be since it's obviously not meg

#

think it would be bouldy

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

lmao

wooden dagger
warm nimbus
#

one sec wheres the haelian clip

lean timber
#

i didn't expect to hear that name in here

signal aspen
#

who

lean timber
#

haelian

signal aspen
#

whos that

acoustic bolt
#

it's pretty cool. i think blind is a tad unbalanced but it's fine. he feels otherwise like the other gods. follow the instructions and nothing should break. the worst thing that happens is you have to delete mods and your game goes back to normal.

lean timber
#

speedrunner/memer. used to stream hades a lot and go for just ridiculous crap

signal aspen
#

i was gonna post the pic of haelian with the knit pp on his head but mods are gonna be mad

lean timber
#

kinda like me but doesn't have an insufferable personality and is good at the game

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

didn't expect him to be very highly esteemed

#

since he kinda just does it all for fun and whatever and is just after views

#

just my opinion tho

snow skiff
#

Huh

lean timber
#

nvm

#

i'm eating subway sammich

snow skiff
mental vale
raw herald
#

Streamers like Haelian are pretty rare

#

It’s not often that the most subscribed/followed streamer is also actually really good at the game

lean timber
#

that's true

#

really really good run rn

#

please asphodel go well

acoustic bolt
#

I wonder what Hades and Poseidon were the gods of before they gained dominion over the underworld and sea. like what would poseidon's boons have been right after he was released from Cronus' stomach.

patent mesa
#

I've seen very little of haelian's stuff but he seems quite good

#

so no complaints from me

lean timber
#

nah it's great to watch i didn't know if you guys took him seriously is all

#

also leaving aspho with extra 5m i have a good feeling abt this

mint coral
#

You got this (again)

lean timber
#

misinput

#

i took point-blank instead of twin.

#

but that's ok! range is ok

#

not a problem

upbeat shore
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My brother just opened a Heroic Side Hustle in Tartarus bouldy

lean timber
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PATTY WOOOOOO!!!

upbeat shore
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Or that's what he said

lean timber
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TOUCH OF STYX DARK YEAAAAAAHHHH

lean timber
mint coral
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Hermes can only get heroic with eury

latent moon
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what chamber?

upbeat shore
rustic vale
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Rare crop wouldn’t be fast enough before end of tartarus either

lean timber
latent moon
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f

rustic vale
lean timber
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it's completely random now how i do. complete rng

mint coral
rustic vale
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Rare crop can’t hit hermes?

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My life is a lie

lean timber
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nope