#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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Using titans blood on zag sword isn’t a scam wdym

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Zag sword is over powered

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Rush delivery

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🧠🧠🧠🧠

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And uh

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Attack speed

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Much good

turbid dagger
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i preffer malphon

rustic vale
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Definitely aren’t dash striking 10000% of the time on sword anyways

turbid dagger
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its the same thing but better

rustic vale
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definitely

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Speaking of malphon

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I guess that’s my next shackle run

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Talos or demeter hmm

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Save the pain for later or use talos

latent moon
latent moon
snow skiff
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Use talos

latent moon
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just get ME lol

snow skiff
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True

latent moon
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wait shackle

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uh

snow skiff
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Just completely ignore the shackle

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Build into me anyway

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Talos sucks

latent moon
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my dumbass forgot about the whole shackle bit

snow skiff
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Either of the aspects just sound like tidal dash run #2726626262

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Dem just has a bit more single target to hoot

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Boot

rustic vale
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speaking of malphon

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I have charge shot on beo rn and feel like I’m definitely using it wrong

latent moon
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charge and shoot what else is there lmao

turbid dagger
rustic vale
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wait not beo, I meant chaos 💀💀💀

turbid dagger
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they are my main weapon

latent moon
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nice

rustic vale
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Fists were my main weapon before I discovered :zag spear:

latent moon
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literally nothing else to it tbh

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special does like nothing

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you can point blank it for a good chunk i guess actually

rustic vale
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Anyways today I learned charge shot goes through shield bois shields

latent moon
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yeah it does

rustic vale
latent moon
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shields aren't an issue with cshot anymore except with beo when you want to crowd control

rustic vale
latent moon
rustic vale
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ME with beo shadesmile

latent moon
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MEowulf???

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ares atk, athena flare

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sounds terrible i'm in

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gimme a sec

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i'll let you know how that goes

rustic vale
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You need athena special

latent moon
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ah fiddlesticks right

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and i have to rng the duo

snow skiff
turbid dagger
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also, why i dont get the interaction which allows me to get the secret for malphon, i have used 5 titan blood on it and i still dont get the interaction with asterus, what to do?

latent moon
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do you have hidden spear yet

turbid dagger
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yes i do

rustic vale
snow skiff
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Just rng then

latent moon
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yep

turbid dagger
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i also have beowulf and lucifer

snow skiff
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Fight him with fists and he'll say something about your bare hands

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Then rng into the wakeup thing

latent moon
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steam is deciding not to open rn for some reason very cool

turbid dagger
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he did comment about me beating him bare handed

latent moon
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you're almost there then i think

rustic vale
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You just need to 1v1 him till he gives the phrase then

latent moon
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yep

turbid dagger
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ty then

snow skiff
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No

turbid dagger
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also i gave skelly ambrosia now, hope the thing he gave me was worth the 5 titan blood+the ambrosia

snow skiff
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After you get the line where he says you fight him barehanded he'll give you the words without caring about what weapon you have

turbid dagger
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oh, incredible, i can finnaly try the zag sword, ty

snow skiff
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Lol

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Lol

latent moon
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Lol

warm nimbus
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lol lmao

turbid dagger
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his keepsake was amazing

warm nimbus
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his companion is very bouldy

turbid dagger
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so the secret stash should be worth the same right? 🩺

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:copeium:

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also how do i check how close im to finish learning to play the lyre?

rustic vale
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Uh

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As you play it more eventually it changes the sounds

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You need to interact with it like 210 times before you get the thing though

turbid dagger
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yes this much ik, its currently at its 3rd stage (it plays short parts of the theme of the game)

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but i cant know exactly how much is left?

latent moon
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not to my knowledge

rustic vale
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Otherwise no real way to know I believe

latent moon
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you're probably somewhat close tho

rustic vale
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Yeah

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At least within 210 interactions of getting there

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Idk you’re getting close though if it’s changed a few times

turbid dagger
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its probably in the final 50 if i really have to guess

void vigil
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just keep on strumming until you get the orpheus dialogue i suppose

turbid dagger
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but it could also be in the final 100 as far as i know

void vigil
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but i would do a few in between runs

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and not stress about it too much

turbid dagger
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i need the ambrosia tho

void vigil
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there are quicker ways to get it imo shadesmile

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unless you havent cleared yet

turbid dagger
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i have, but with every weapon i have gotten the ambrosia from theseus

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including in harder heat difficulties

warm nimbus
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you shouldnt need more than the 120 you get from that, i dont think

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what do you still need it for?

void vigil
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if youre having a hard time with heat it could be that youre choosing pretty difficult ones

turbid dagger
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im at maximum of 2 heat

void vigil
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that shouldnt be too much harder but it depends which ones you turned on

turbid dagger
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extreme measures/ benefits package are what im using

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oh it has now expanded into a maximum of 3 heat

void vigil
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i didnt turn benefits package on even at 20

turbid dagger
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time for ambrosia (unless i die before elysium)

void vigil
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its pretty difficult imo

warm nimbus
turbid dagger
warm nimbus
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the usual ones that are recommended for starting out are tight deadline 1-2, extreme measures 1-2, underworld customs, benefits package 1, and middle management

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benefits package 1 is generally fine but benefits package 2 can have some really nasty combos

turbid dagger
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ty

rustic vale
void vigil
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what

rustic vale
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Idk

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I’ve been using it forevver

void vigil
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i find it really hard

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i kept losing with it

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so i changed stuff around

rustic vale
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Idk

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I feel it’s free heat

void vigil
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my 20 pact again

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rustic vale
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Huh

void vigil
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LOL free heat

rustic vale
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Your 20 pact is psychopathic

warm nimbus
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idk i think its fine

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except for cf2

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i hate convenience fee so much

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its so inconvenient for a pact thats so easy lmao

turbid dagger
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also whats generaly better to do with lucifer gun, to shot at the enemies directly or to set up a chain of specials for a big boom?

rustic vale
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Big boom

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If you see triple bomb grab it

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Actually wait

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Isn’t luci special only good at higher levels

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Otherwise it’s low big boom

turbid dagger
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higher levels?

rustic vale
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High level on the aspect

snow skiff
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That is ... Quite the 20 pact

rustic vale
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The special big boom scales with aspect level

turbid dagger
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oh i see

rustic vale
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So big boom for 100 base damage at level 5 is pretty sweet

turbid dagger
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so in lvl 1 i should mainly shot and not do the big explosion

rustic vale
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idk

warm nimbus
rustic vale
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I don’t know if level changes how you play luci

snow skiff
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I personally would never take cf or uc below 40

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They're so deeply unsatisfying to have

warm nimbus
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but the difference between 50 at level 1 and 100 at level 5 is massive

rustic vale
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I have uc on my 20 pact but that’s just because who needs boons when I only run shackle

void vigil
# rustic vale Your 20 pact is psychopathic

it was aimed at me in this case but just in general dont dismiss peoples builds and pacts in such a harsh way, if you want to give someone criticism its fine but not outright insults. everyone has their own way of playing and what works for them

turbid dagger
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so what i should do then, mainly use the attack to shot ppl or to set up the special?

snow skiff
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You go zeus attack and fish for triple bomb

snow skiff
warm nimbus
void vigil
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also i think cf is fine its my 1 heat go to, its inconvenient but not run ending like bp

warm nimbus
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savior greatshields on something like hestia are awful lol

turbid dagger
void vigil
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i used to not buy anything like the whole run so it made no difference to me

snow skiff
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I like buying boons 😁👍

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Cf means no buy boon

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Which means me sad

void vigil
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also that pact worked for me most of the time on every weapon i played so 🤷 when i tried playing with em3 or fo or bp i would die way more often

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but you dont have to play with it active, its just the pact i used

snow skiff
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I mean when you really pick it apart it's a pretty tame pact

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Just kind of weird in a 20 setting

void vigil
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it was a 32 pact and i removed all the things i didnt like in it

snow skiff
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Oh

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Lol

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Yeah u really don't see lc4 often in 20

void vigil
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it seemed the easiest

rustic vale
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Does that make sense? I alway worry about my cohesivity

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Or maybe cohesiveness is the right way to put it

latent moon
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pride finally working

warm nimbus
latent moon
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totally didn't give up for aprho epic special haha

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and got zeus chamber 3 somehow lmao

warm nimbus
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bruh wtf

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you almost dont even need a special boon in tart

latent moon
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oh nvm chamber 4

warm nimbus
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and also i think you generally want arty special not aphro

latent moon
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oh

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welp

snow skiff
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I'd use tempest flourish and go for Sea Storm 😁👍

latent moon
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too far into this to restart

warm nimbus
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aphro special is second best though

snow skiff
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Isn't aphro better without cluster

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To be fair no cluster is dead anyway but still

warm nimbus
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arty is just good on all rail specials, not entirely sure why but probably because you get a lot of % scaling for special outside of special boon

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and crits on luci specials are insane

snow skiff
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I like curse of pain 🙂

rustic vale
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Curse of nausea zagluv

warm nimbus
rustic vale
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When do jolted poms fall off?

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Have my purple level 4 jolted in tart rn and wondering when I should stop pomming

warm nimbus
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fourth pom only adds 12

rustic vale
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191 jolted zagluv zagluv zagluv

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Just need hyper delivery

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Unironically hoping for dem for cold fusion rn

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Since zeus dash is kinda a slow way of applying jolted

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Does “for the next 3 encounters you cannot gain obols” apply to charon bag?

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Because usually it’ll show the spurce of obols being +0 but at the bag it still says +300

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Nevermind

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I learned the impatient way that it still means +0 obols

warm nimbus
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lmao was about to say

latent moon
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Get scammed kid

rustic vale
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Wdym scammed

warm nimbus
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at least you get a loyalty card

rustic vale
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Now I have loyalty card

latent moon
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Oh yeah I forgot about that

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Get slightly scammed kid

patent mesa
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who wants to see jolted's pom scaling

rustic vale
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I got tunnel vision on chaos with lucifer and took special damage before seeing it was attacking means you take damage

rustic vale
patent mesa
raw herald
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📈📈📈📈__

vapid narwhal
patent mesa
raw herald
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Do divine dash

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Can you set x to go up to 40

patent mesa
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yes indeed

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need to add ddash first

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so far only have zeus and pos non duos added

rustic vale
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Pom scaling artemis boons

snow skiff
rustic vale
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Pom scaling fully loaded

snow skiff
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Invite me to test 2 pls 😇

raw herald
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Man

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That’s not what I typed

snow skiff
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U have to bold the first space

rustic vale
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Pom scaling heart of stone

snow skiff
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Cause discord cuts leading spaces

raw herald
snow skiff
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@raw herald wait you're awake

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That means i have to sleep

raw herald
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It’s 9:34

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Oh yeah

patent mesa
raw herald
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Jeez

patent mesa
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insane

gray apex
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1 tidal dash

patent mesa
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is divine dash not actually good for dps

rustic vale
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Wdym

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Divine dash is best dps

raw herald
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Clearly is

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Numbers don’t lie

patent mesa
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101 > 100 I guess

gray apex
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yea

patent mesa
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damage on y axis lmao

rustic vale
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Wait

patent mesa
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huge catch > sweet surrender

rustic vale
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Huge catch does 20 damage 😳

patent mesa
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huge catch built different

rustic vale
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How about hypersprint pom scaling

patent mesa
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wait wtf

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is it true that heroic brilliant riposte doesn't exist

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the two sources I'm using are conflicting on this

snow skiff
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There's no reason it shouldn't i think

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Not that I've ever seen it

patent mesa
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wiki lists n/a for it

snow skiff
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try boon selector mod

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I don't see how it can't get hit by like crop or something

patent mesa
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god there's so much conflicting information

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wiki claims deathless stand rarity scales by +2 +2.5 +3 +3.5s

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hades megasheet claims +2 +3 +3 +4

snow skiff
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well if the btd6 wiki means anything you can't trust wikis

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I mean the best method would just be to check in game obviously

patent mesa
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@cursive canyon

snow skiff
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but that could easily be rounding jank

patent mesa
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I bet that's the case

short glen
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@patent mesa meme

patent mesa
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lmao that's good

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the clutter of text at the bottom unironically adds to the effect

short glen
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I'd agree after looking at it again

eager kindle
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TFW I have successfully convinced a couple of my friends to play the game

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But they skip all the dialogue

gray apex
shy fable
safe tinsel
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They dont appreciate the masterpiece

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Watch them say that the game is mid bc they didn't know wbout the amazing story

snow skiff
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Lol yeah

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I had to actively coerce my friend to read the dialogue

safe tinsel
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Actually I bested the Underworld with nemesis twice now. Cursed slash moments fr

boreal badge
safe tinsel
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Hmmm you were quite easily outside the blast radius

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No idea

turbid dagger
boreal badge
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oh

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so this is a bug and it happens often?

gray apex
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You are out of the dash by the time the crusher lands

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So you have exactly 0 iframes

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Take another look at it

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Zag takes a step

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Before the crusher lands

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You dashed too early

strange skiff
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Ye but I think the issue is with the range, not the timing

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The pink wave visual makes it look like zag is out of range of the attack when it hits

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Phantom hitbox

mint coral
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For me it looked like it connected

gray apex
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Yup

acoustic bolt
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lol i have satyr sack control and i'm still on the 5th chamber. maybe i set it up wrong

warm nimbus
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anyways i dont see any reason for heroic hrilliant riposte not existing

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itd be strange if it didnt

acoustic bolt
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i did have it set wrong

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what do most people set satyr sack control to?

patent mesa
acoustic bolt
warm nimbus
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modded gaming

lean timber
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L

acoustic bolt
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So I understand the reasoning because the satyr rooms are basically bad attrition battles.

What is the reason for speed runs to cut out certain mini boss rooms? Is it so everyone "competing" gets somewhat normalized effects on their time?

lean timber
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because some of them suck

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barge is way too long for no reason to be fair for speedruns

warm nimbus
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the 3 minibosses it cuts out (barge, asterius, and tiny vermin) take an absurdly long amount of time compared to alternatives

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barge itself is like a 20s timeloss at best

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but the difference in speed between something like sneak/doomstone/bombers is like 1 or 2 seconds so thats not really a big deal

acoustic bolt
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That makes sense. I always use Thanatos because I don't know the reason people use Meg (and have never asked because I forgot) so the barge doesn't usually take that long.

But there is a lot of time waiting

warm nimbus
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meg is good for speedruns and heat because than is often just overkill and takes too long

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you use meg on midbosses in tart aspho and ely to strip their armor

acoustic bolt
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How do you control her trajectory? She always goes perpendicular to the mobs for me

warm nimbus
latent moon
signal aspen
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nice cheat engine

latent moon
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thanks

warm nimbus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Iovk-sbe8 this is the guide for doing meg summons, the one for 4 witches is a bit outdated

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and even if you miss it it groups them up really nicely

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wait wtf that video is privated

acoustic bolt
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So my issue is I'm facing the enemies instead of the side of the mobs

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Well walls or whatever

warm nimbus
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this imagine is approximately correct

mint coral
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I love this pic

acoustic bolt
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Cool. I tend to just use than to 1 shot 2nd phase theseus and a few other random things I could do without

warm nimbus
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i think youre actually supposed to stand a bit to the left of what it looks like in that picture

mint coral
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For weapons that cant hold charge to line yourself can use casts iirc

acoustic bolt
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That's what the guy did in the speedrun video I watched earlier. I remember thinking his positioning was interesting

warm nimbus
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its great

mint coral
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Also if your weapon has tidal dash be careful to push 1 witch away bouldy

warm nimbus
acoustic bolt
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How does the bow in that image effect Meg?

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Since it says aim here. Does Meg start at a mob you're facing?

warm nimbus
mint coral
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Meg position is based around zag shoulder iirc, dont remember the exact angle

warm nimbus
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because the line is always parallel to zags shoulders you want to face a certain direction before you meg

acoustic bolt
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What makes her go through the mobs instead of a line between the mobs and zag?

warm nimbus
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which only comes in play in bombers/witches/heroes meg

warm nimbus
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idk how to explain it

acoustic bolt
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Like she'll always start on a mob?

warm nimbus
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yeah

acoustic bolt
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Ah ok

warm nimbus
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unless there are none on the screen

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like in bombers meg

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in which case it starts on zag and just angles itself

acoustic bolt
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Which mob does she aim for? The one zag is facing or the closest or the last one hit?

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To be the first I meab

warm nimbus
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idk but it doesnt really matter

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because youre trying to hit all 4

signal aspen
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it targets the closest one

warm nimbus
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oh ok

acoustic bolt
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Right it does make sense that it doesn't matter lol

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Donno what I'm thinking

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Gotta think with portals

warm nimbus
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are you on controller or kbm

acoustic bolt
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Controller

slim geyser
rustic vale
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Patrocolus dies of dysentry at age 23

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💪💪💪

shy fable
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oh to be a silly little shade who died of an infection and sits around in tartarus

slim geyser
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oh to be a depressed and divorced king whos disapproves of his sons love for a gardener boy

shy fable
patent mesa
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can sweet surrender take on a range of values

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because I swear it can't but maybe I'm losing my mind

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same with arty hide breaker, I'm getting conflicting results

mint coral
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Always set from what i remember

patent mesa
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do you recall what those numbers are

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megasheet reports them as 10 15 25 27 which seems off

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I thought it was 10 15 20 ?

warm nimbus
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i thought it was like 10 13 15

patent mesa
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yeah but you also thought weak was 10% so idk if I can trust you

raw herald
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10 15 20

warm nimbus
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epic sweet surrender definitely is not 20% at epic

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im positive its 15%

raw herald
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im positive ur wrong

mint coral
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thought it was 22% but im probably thinking clean kill

raw herald
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yeah

warm nimbus
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wait which one is hide breaker

raw herald
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Heart rend for armor

warm nimbus
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oh

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also sweet surrender is weak v2 right

snow skiff
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i'ma be real i haven't taken that outside of quest

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sweet surrender is weak +dmg

warm nimbus
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oh wtf

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which one is weak v2

mint coral
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broken resolve i think

snow skiff
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idk wtf ur referring to with weak v2

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empty inside is + duration

warm nimbus
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oh

snow skiff
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broken resolve is +dr

warm nimbus
raw herald
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Different league is kinda broken resolve but worse

warm nimbus
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true

snow skiff
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weak just kinda sucks

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10% lame

raw herald
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um

warm nimbus
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yeah

raw herald
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@ nyaanyaa mewmew

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oops

warm nimbus
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they should buff it to like 30% or something

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then itd be good

snow skiff
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bruh gy heals through lc4

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time to switch 2 high confidence

raw herald
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Pls no

signal aspen
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Yeah that's why gy is the best aspect

warm nimbus
snow skiff
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getting dying lament is so nice

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u just wipe all of tart with it and then sell it for uc

signal aspen
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Selling aphro boons????

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Smh

warm nimbus
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ye

signal aspen
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@ nyaayaa mewmee

mint coral
snow skiff
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i would sell smolering air

raw herald
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mewmee

snow skiff
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it would be funny

signal aspen
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What the hell is smolering air

raw herald
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I’d rather see a victory screen

raw herald
snow skiff
raw herald
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I’ll do ravine lcc with Benspike

signal aspen
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I've seen a couple of those it's not impressive

snow skiff
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gonna switch my

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hammer thing

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to quick spin

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and just run quick spin aphro attack with hc

signal aspen
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Die

raw herald
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And DC2

signal aspen
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Ri4 while you're at it

slim geyser
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do ri4 instead

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LMAO

signal aspen
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Too slow

slim geyser
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who needs high confidence when you have ri4

slim geyser
snow skiff
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ri4 should let you use 5sec stygian soul tbh

mint coral
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@quiet ice Believe you really not notice distance memory 🗿

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is bad, like really bad

quiet ice
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Welp, at least I got it maxed for the achievement

latent moon
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I think I took distant memory once on bow on accident lmfao

mint coral
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i took it all time on styx while i played chiron casually

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i never missed it

quiet ice
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that's primarily what I've used it for

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chiron in elysium

mint coral
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the problem with it (and sniper shot too) is that the range for it to proc is quite a lot

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and twin/point blank really get more dmg than the 30% (even if its global dmg i think) from orpheus keepsake

quiet ice
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I'm such an achievement hunter that while I was maxing out my Aspects I kept selling my ambrosia for titan blood to max the aspects faster and now I'm saving ambrosia for the final work orders and I have a stupid amount of titan blood lol

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I'm so close to 100% this fil;e

latent moon
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What about the darkness sink lol

mint coral
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are you counting the ranks for 100%?

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tbh i wouldnt bouldy

quiet ice
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i literally have like 5 construction projects, one more loyalty card and i need to catch one more voidskate

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no i'm not counting ranks

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Although I'll probably play this file until I finish that

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I am close to maxing out rewards too

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Still have 4 more on bow and spear and about a dozen on shield

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I will officially be finished on this file when I have all contractor work done, all rewards collected, all weapons with a 32 heat clear and full codex

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Still debating whether I want to grind to Unseen One

latent moon
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Themes kinda expensive as well lol

quiet ice
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i only have 2 themes left to get tho

mint coral
#

i should do that actually

quiet ice
#

im genuinely considering it

snow skiff
#

that doesn't sound that bad

quiet ice
#

But there are some really bad aspects, man

mint coral
#

but that means unmodded spears ron

snow skiff
#

32 is still fairly lenient on pact

quiet ice
#

The idea of having to do zag spear 32 is not fun

snow skiff
#

spear when you don't get 2 specific hammers

quiet ice
#

there would be so much praying for good hammers

mint coral
#

zag at least can get 2 good starting hammers: flurry or exploding

#

rails are gonna be ez at least

quiet ice
#

there are some aspects I've only even played with for the achievement

#

I've only used Talos a single time II'm pretty sure

mint coral
#

and i think im only missing chaos shield

snow skiff
#

i used talos for curse of drowning blizzard shot and black out

quiet ice
#

to those who say 32 heat is relatively easy, please understand: I am simply not as good at this game as you are

#

Not even close

acoustic bolt
quiet ice
#

if you go into the room with all the records and files and stuff you can see your success with each aspect

acoustic bolt
#

ooh neat

mint coral
#

admin chamber logs yeah

acoustic bolt
#

when i get to 32 it'll just repeat nemesis, chiron, achilles, beo, demeter and then eris/hestia alternating

latent moon
#

Like I've only done it with beo so it was pretty easy but with other aspects I'd probably die

quiet ice
#

I've done it with Demeter with ME and with Hestia with Shackle and that's it

slim geyser
#

chiron*

quiet ice
#

I really really don't want to deactivate my mirror though

#

I need my rolls for builds

#

that's the one thing that I never touch when I'm designing pacts

mint coral
#

thats for 50 heat dw

slim geyser
#

Do not use ri for 32

#

yeah

quiet ice
#

I don'

#

i don't

slim geyser
quiet ice
#

Why would you use stubborn defiance at 32?

signal aspen
#

lc4

#

no healing

slim geyser
#

then you can use lc4 yeah

quiet ice
#

what is IC4

#

i have no idea what that is

slim geyser
#

no healing

quiet ice
#

ohhh

slim geyser
#

its a pact thing

quiet ice
#

yeah okay that makes sense

slim geyser
#

you die to heal with stubborn

quiet ice
#

I just don't know the abbreviations

#

for this

slim geyser
#

ye ye

quiet ice
#

yeah I get it

slim geyser
#

there should be smth pinned somewhere

quiet ice
#

i can picture how that would work

#

that seems like work

signal aspen
#

its not that bad

quiet ice
#

I might just continue using DD and hoping Patroclus saves me lmao

latent moon
acoustic bolt
#

because i like chiron

#

i mean maybe i will figure out rama by then

mint coral
latent moon
mint coral
#

i argue pat is more busted on sd than dds

quiet ice
#

i dont even know what he does on SD tbh

mint coral
#

you also dont need to be at 1 revive all the time thanks to Athena

mint coral
#

so an 80% revive

acoustic bolt
#

that does seem like enough for most rooms

#

unless it drastically changes i've finished most of my runs only dying once if that to dad

mint coral
#

with nice sack luck you can carry it to dad too

acoustic bolt
#

maybe i should try it now so i can stop using customs

#

i hate customs

latent moon
#

Customs is a 32 pack isn't it

mint coral
#

yeah

latent moon
#

Or is it not necessary okay yeah

mint coral
#

but is 32, you can get away if you really hate it ig

latent moon
#

True

acoustic bolt
#

i'm at like 17

latent moon
#

32 is pretty flexible

mint coral
#

oh god i finally see Than again

#

unmodded moment

acoustic bolt
#

does the speedpack get rid of than?

#

i kind of hate than rooms

lean timber
#

yeah

mint coral
#

when you install the mod pack is on rta preset at first

#

which means no Than

#

igt preset has it allowed as he pauses the timer

#

and im on switch so i was stuck on rta 🗿

#

cant access the mod settings

acoustic bolt
#

i never noticed he pauses the timer

signal aspen
#

the next modpack might have igt preset enabled when you install it

acoustic bolt
#

i still hate it. his rooms are boring and he takes too long to give me a heart and even when i know i've won or i don't care about winning i still feel the pressure to rush around and try because my brain hates me.

latent moon
#

Well than pauses timer anyway so the heart waiting time is still fine

#

And if you're not required to win if you want the normal room reward so you can just run if you want

signal aspen
mint coral
#

now i got barge'd

signal aspen
#

so while you wait for the heart the timer goes

latent moon
#

Overall compared to actually clearing the room

#

Sometimes than can be weird tho I guess but mostly fine

acoustic bolt
#

because i said even when i know i've won or don't care about winning i still feel the pressure to and before that i acknowledged that it pauses the timer XD

rustic vale
#

Must rush

#

Must kill

acoustic bolt
latent moon
#

his whole thing is death ofc he's gonna one shot everything lmao

patent mesa
#

don't forget to sweet surrender and targeting system enemies than's attacking so he feels better about himself

mint coral
#

or set up hunter's mark for the funny crit

patent mesa
#

is than buffed by crit buff boons

acoustic bolt
patent mesa
#

yep

#

sweet surrender, targeting system, and gilgamesh maim are the three sources of "true" global damage

#

buffing than is one side effect

acoustic bolt
#

sweet surrender is Thanatos' Dark Matter weapon

#

got it

snow skiff
#

Is sweet surrender still additive with standard damage buffs

rustic vale
#

Yes

#

True global additive is still additive with normal additive

patent mesa
#

god there are so many freaking discrepancies

#

does numbing sensation slow take on a range of values

#

does peer pressure do

#

how about high tolerance

#

please help

signal aspen
#

maybe

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

ok how much damage does lvl2 common trippy flare do

mint coral
#

220

#

on beo

#

160 on hera

patent mesa
#

so first pom does 50

mint coral
#

isnt common 100?

signal aspen
#

doesnt it do 60

patent mesa
#

common is 120

signal aspen
#

since when

patent mesa
#

trippy shot common is 100

#

since never because both wiki and megasheet are wrong

#

I'm losing my mind

signal aspen
#

bro

#

wtf

#

common is definitely 100

patent mesa
#

yeah and wiki says 120

#

cool stuff

mint coral
#

if you can check the wiki rn better just boot up hades to check yourself dusa

patent mesa
#

I'm in game as well

#

problem is game doesn't give rarity

warm nimbus
#

thats hilarious

#

its definitely 100

patent mesa
#

the amount of wrong info I've probably already inputted is making me sick

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

please do oh my god I'm going crazy

hardy spear
#

deep breaths

patent mesa
#

I need trippy shot and flare first poms

#

along with trippy flare rarity scaling

warm nimbus
#

ill get trippy rarity scaling

#

bruh hammer start

patent mesa
#

lol time for another zshield attempt instead

warm nimbus
#

2 hammer starts

signal aspen
#

skill issue

warm nimbus
#

rare trippy is 120

#

so common is def 100

signal aspen
#

really??

#

no way

mint coral
#

couldnt see it coming

warm nimbus
#

lmao

#

epic trippy flare is 140 @patent mesa

#

its 100 120 140

#

idk about heroic though

patent mesa
#

thanks you're a lifesaver

#

should be 160

mint coral
#

prob 160 lol

patent mesa
#

so don't bother testing

warm nimbus
#

yeah

mint coral
#

so a normal pom

signal aspen
#

its 250

patent mesa
#

thanks

signal aspen
#

np

warm nimbus
#

what other things do you need

patent mesa
#

high tolerance / bad influence / numbing sensation / peer pressure

#

are they range rarity boons

signal aspen
#

yes

#

(i have no idea)

patent mesa
#

oh did you test pom on flare/cast

warm nimbus
warm nimbus
#

and what it tapers off to

patent mesa
#

just the first level to see if megasheet is a filthy liar

warm nimbus
#

its 120 on flare and 60 on cast

#

right?

#

i can quintuple check if you want me to though

patent mesa
#

megasheet claims 72 on flare

mint coral
#

is 100 to 160

warm nimbus
#

thats not right lmao

patent mesa
#

so I'll assume it has same pom scaling as cast minus bug

mint coral
#

220 on beo

warm nimbus
#

yeah its that

#

that sheet is a filthy liar

#

yeah it went 140->200

#

and on beo thats double

patent mesa
#

k thanks

mint coral
#

huh i just noticed i did have chiron 32

#

since when bouldy

#

then im done with bow

patent mesa
#

I'm sorry to hear that

mint coral
#

now on to rail ig, double budget eris time

brisk trail
#

hello hadescord

warm nimbus
#

good afternoon

mint coral
#

lmao enshroudded really do be free sometimes
1 exit (pom)>bouldy>pos>zeus at c13

lean timber
patent mesa
rustic vale
#

Started my lucifer run and had forgotten I had chaos making me take damage when attacking

#

Now I’m at 1 hp

lean timber
#

i'm gonna try to run one (1) 32 heat run. keep in mind my best is 11

#

what weapon should i try

mint coral
#

oh we are both doing lucy rn lol

patent mesa
lean timber
rustic vale
patent mesa
#

getting away with it is so rewarding and it gives an absolute light show

lean timber
#

besides rail

mint coral
patent mesa
warm nimbus
lean timber
#

hmm i dunno... i think i tend to leave myself a little too open on beo... i never did SUPER super well with it. but perhaps

patent mesa
warm nimbus
snow skiff
#

it's almost 8 guys

warm nimbus
#

its 9:56 here

signal aspen
#

there is only one timezone

rustic vale
#

21:56 💪💪💪💪💪

#

Bestest timezone

patent mesa
#

the only timezone is HST (hades standard time)

rustic vale
warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

I use it because discord does

lean timber
#

love opening hades and hearing payback remix as i enter the courtyard

warm nimbus
#

i turned my language to english UK so i could get 24 hour time lmao

lean timber
#

how do we feel about 32 hera?

rustic vale
#

I use english UK by default

mint coral
#

good

signal aspen
warm nimbus
#

and now its trying to correct z into s and or into our

lean timber
#

got it

warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

Long live the queen

lean timber
#

ah, my bow heat is 6...

#

well, time to blow that open

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

that's odd. bow is my favorite

warm nimbus
#

imo

rustic vale
#

not pushijg heat on all weapons the same amount?

#

Odd

mint coral
#

why would i do that

warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

Idk

lean timber
#

nah. lowest is 5 highest is 11. not too much of a difference

#

i don't run spear at all anymore

mint coral
#

also this is the 2nd time a 32 heat run is my last bounty on a weapon lol

#

first with 32 on rail and now on fists

warm nimbus
#

i tried to make a 0->50 jump on sword the otbher day but pos sword sucks so i gave up

rustic vale
#

I mean my spear heat is lower then every thing but now I have experienced zag spear and guan-yu special so

#

I’m going to push it higher

mental vale
#

bruh i just ran dark thirst until everything was done 😭

warm nimbus
#

i did that when i was starting out until after about 5 runs it did fists 3 times in a row

#

and i hate fists

#

so i stopped doing that lmao

#

i still dont think i have bounties on any weapon done actually

signal aspen
#

i think sword is my lowest heat

lean timber
#

ok who wants to hear my pact

warm nimbus
#

sure

signal aspen
#

oh god no

lean timber
#

HL5, LC2, CF1, JS3, EM3, CP1, BP1, MM, UC, FO2, DC1, TD1

mint coral
signal aspen
#

HL5 JS3 EM3 CP1 FO2 shadesmile 👍

patent mesa
#

that's not too bad

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

minus lack of TD2

warm nimbus
#

you like js3 too much

signal aspen
#

oh td1

#

bruh

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

JS3 is so freaking based

lean timber
#

i fear running td2 i think with all the new pacts i will run out of time

#

hera bow

warm nimbus
signal aspen
mint coral
#

js3
i fear running out of time

lean timber
#

i'm absolutely peeing myself rn i feel like i have the WANTED 5 stars above me rn

patent mesa
#

JS3 is free heat idk what these guys are on

mint coral
#

also you dont want enemies tanky on hera

warm nimbus
signal aspen
patent mesa
#

ok but seriously JS3 TD2 is fine

lean timber
#

ok ok fine i'll turn td up and js down but that's IT i'm sticking to my crap pact rn

patent mesa
#

CP less fine

lean timber
#

smoking that crap pack...

mint coral
#

you will cry when you are left poking your enemies every 5 seconds with your attack cuz it wont die with a cast volley

warm nimbus
#

anyways i still recommend the standard 32 heat pact for every weapon except rama and arthur

mint coral
#

(you also cry at bruisers anyways bouldy)

lean timber
#

OK i have JS1 TD2 that's it

#

I'M DOIN IT

warm nimbus
#

gl

mint coral
#

have fun dont die too early

signal aspen
#

do this

lean timber
#

zag said absolutely nothing. i do not feel good about that

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

yo that would be a cool hellfirebot feature

#

give it a list of abbreviations and it generates an image of the pact

warm nimbus
#

ooh yeah

patent mesa
#

I need a queue channel in the server

warm nimbus
#

although im not sure how useful it is it sounds fun

signal aspen
#

do this then

warm nimbus
signal aspen
mint coral
#

fun fact about switch

#

you can recognize asterius mini boss by the loading time

signal aspen
#

switch when

#

switch moment

patent mesa
signal aspen
#

whats that

lean timber
#

i am smoking this crazy pack rn fr fr holy crap

#

this is rough af

#

i timed out in tartarus bouldy

#

still have 80hp left

rustic vale
#

My chaos shield run had 225 hp by c8 or c9

snow skiff
lean timber
#

glad you enjoyed yourself

rustic vale
snow skiff
#

that is

#

quite the take

rustic vale
#

It is definitely a take

snow skiff
#

omg zagsword is the same average damage boost as nem if you get purple rd

rustic vale
warm nimbus
warm nimbus
#

no its not

#

crits are x3, not x2

#

and global damage is additive, crits are mulitplicative

rustic vale
#

Nem is multiplicative

#

Nem is a 60% damage boost

snow skiff
#

i forgot

#

sorry

rustic vale
#

Zag would never overtake nem even if you had red rd and multiple speed boosters

#

But

#

Idc

lean timber
#

i should have never listened to you about td2 noob

#

i'm doing my original pact this time

rustic vale
patent mesa
#

bruh

lean timber
#

i've said so many times that i'm slow lol

rustic vale
lean timber
#

no thanks

rustic vale
#

Chiron do big damage

snow skiff
#

Wait

#

Did you fail td2

#

Bruh

lean timber
#

yeah at 32

#

my highest is 11

#

oh i gotta check my stats

snow skiff
#

Are u using fo

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

obviously

lean timber
#

died in asphodel, i think c17? a bloodless got me during a than trial when i zoned out

#

lasted 9:53

rustic vale
mint coral
#

shackle hera volfredthink

lean timber
#

k new pact is JS3, CP2, TD0

#

one more try

#

i can do it without the timer

rustic vale
#

Js 3 fo 2 td 3

lean timber
#

also i didn't get a cast at all that run so

mint coral
#

got vorimed'd?

lean timber
#

ja

#

90 -> 100 -> 110 crush shot scaling right?

warm nimbus
#

yeah

mint coral
#

yeah

warm nimbus
#

rarity doesnt matter

lean timber
#

yeh not gonna worry about epic

mint coral
#

also god Cshot is such a god send unmodded

#

i always took it as granted on modded but here im so happy lol

rustic vale
#

Unmodded gaming

#

💪💪💪

lean timber
#

twin shot hera gaming...?

mint coral
#

cant be mad about double dmg on attack

acoustic bolt
#

what does Remove Getting Vorime'd mean?

rustic vale
#

Twin shot should work like mirage shot on hera

mint coral
#

reference to Vorime rolling 2 times and not getting flood flare during gdq

acoustic bolt
#

lol

rustic vale
#

Gdq?

mint coral
#

games done quick

#

charity speedrun event

warm nimbus
#

speedrun charity event

#

lmao

rustic vale
#

Lmao

warm nimbus
#

lmai

rustic vale
#

Lmai

#

lmai

#

Imai

signal aspen
#

Lmoa

rustic vale
#

lmaL

lean timber
#

WTF WAS THAT BULL****

#

SAVIOR CLONER NUMBSKULLS???

rustic vale
lean timber
#

THAT TOOK ME 2 WHOLE MINUTES

rustic vale
#

Slow

#

should’ve used arthur

mint coral
#

oh finally another fury that isnt alecto lol

#

tis time

rustic vale
#

Is tis faster or slower then the other furies

#

Cuz only 3 break points

mint coral
#

slower afaik

signal aspen
#

Slower

lean timber
#

tis is way slower

signal aspen
#

Most health

mint coral
#

i was just bored from alecto lol

snow skiff
warm nimbus
snow skiff
#

Savior cloner doesn't exist

warm nimbus
#

yep lmao

lean timber
#

THEY KEPT GIVING EACH OTHER THE STUPID ARMOR HEARTS

warm nimbus
rustic vale
#

Were there numbskull spawners mayhaps?

lean timber
#

maybe there was just a lot of them that spawned as soon as the room loaded? maybe they weren't cloners

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

nope no spawners

#

there was just a crapton

snow skiff
#

Do u have js3

lean timber
#

i guess they weren't clones mb

#

yes

snow skiff
#

That would do it

lean timber
#

yay.

#

oh wait i'm only running bp1

signal aspen
#

Was gonna say

lean timber
#

so i guess there was just a crapton

#

nvm!

#

false alarm. why "there's another one" what does that mean

mint coral
#

lmao lvl 5 common aphro just to match epic lvl 1

rustic vale
lean timber
snow skiff
#

Lol the savior cloner effect strikes again

lean timber
#

there was so many 😭

signal aspen
#

Js3 moment

#

You still wanna run that instead of td2 or 3

lean timber
#

YES

#

YES I DO

signal aspen
#

Bruh

#

This isn't gonna end well

snow skiff
#

Wait so what pact is he using exactly?

signal aspen
rustic vale
#

Just run em4 as well

#

Just for lols

lean timber
#

i removed td1 i forgot exactly what i changed

signal aspen
#

Bro

#

It keeps getting worse

warm nimbus
lean timber
#

LEAVE ME ALONE I'M JUST DOING THIS FOR FUN

#

i'm just trying it ok 😭

signal aspen
#

This is not fun

lean timber
#

i'm having fun

#

kinda

#

almost

signal aspen
#

🗿🗿🗿

rustic vale
#

Almost

lean timber
#

entered bouldy's chamber at exactly 5:00.00

rustic vale
#

Bouldy zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv zagluv

lean timber
#

ok something is def wrong here how did i enter asphodel this run with a LOWER TIME but LOWER HEALTH

#

man i really do suck at this game

mint coral
#

finally got a "blocked!"

takes 23 dmg

#

ofc it was asterius bouldy

rustic vale
patent mesa
#

"what shield?"

lean timber
#

NOOOO LERNIE GOT ME

rustic vale
#

🦕🦕🦕

mint coral
#

lernie tax

lean timber
#

screw it i'll run beo...

#

one last try

rustic vale
mint coral
#

this bad zagshield run turned into dash only lmao

#

thunder dash + jolted + splitting and double strike

lean timber
#

if fo2 wasn't on i would

rustic vale
#

Js3 fo 2 gaming

snow skiff
#

Lernieez nuts

latent moon
#

gottem good

rustic vale
#

Goddem

lean timber
#

k done with 32 for now i think

latent moon
#

how'd it go

lean timber
#

i really don't have an appropriate answer for you other than it was a complete failure lmao

#

first run was somehow the best one

#

then went downhill from there prrtty quick

mint coral
#

Gotta keeo practicing then

latent moon
#

what was the pact again? i skimmed the chat and it seemed pretty cursed lol

lean timber
#

it was sub-optimal