#h1-discussion
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zag sword, honestly a lot of the sword hammers, and like talos?(maybe), hades spear. that's all I can think of off the top of my head
there are a lot of things i can think of but its much more from a meta standpoint
Olympian favor ig?
Not bad per se but dark foresight exists
Oh wait, wouldnt call it worst
Just weaker
erm cold embrace is actually helpful with positioning if you don't have the artemis-demeter duo! 🤓
in the actual greek mythology, is chaos ever personified in any way? i can't recall any
i guess my question is "is chaos an original interpretation"
so chaos isn't exactly an original interpretation, but maybe the way the game writers wrote them is original
i know that most forces like chaos and night were named and worshipped and all that, but i wasn't sure if they were like
really "well described" as having a form or personality and all that
so yeah, good enough answer for me
iirc Ponywarrior was working on a mod like that, buffing the less meta boons
I'll say Ares' Aid not letting you attack, and Dark Regeneration
What does the hollowed ground from the arthur sword aspect do
Makes you take less damage while in it
Based on level
Wdym
It’s based on the aspects level
Oh
I’m pretty sure it also slows down enemy projectiles in the hallowed ground but I have no source for that
How much damage reduction at level 1
So if i have godmode at max am i invincible in the radius
No it’s 20% to 40%
So im trying to go for a few achievments, and one is really starting to bother me, How do you go about getting the Infernal Trove one?
Damage reduction is multiplicative
Not additive
So
I don’t use godmode idk how much damage reduction it gives
Its 80% at max
But you won’t be invincible
Aw man
With godmode 16 or without
Okay
If you have just godmode you’ll be taking 20%
Turn off godmode 
No

I turned in on after i beat the game
I’m so confused about why you would turn it on after you beat the game like you were good enough to get that far without it
if you beat the game without it then you wont need it afterwards but to each their own lol
To each their own I guess
remind me what the infernal trove is lmao is that the one that gives you rewards in the middle of the run the faster you kill stuff
The yellowish glowing chest
the thing before each biome?
i have no clue, the achievment says to enter and infernal trove without taking damage and it looks like a choas thing
with the keepsakes?
oh yeah so i was right
well if it says to do it without taking damage then just do that lol, do you normally take damage in rooms
oh they are the chests nvm
Lmao
im just being dumb i thought they were the chaos gates
well it has a picture of the chaos gates next to it so I thought thats what it was
i'm assuming you're doing steam achievements?
I wish switch had achievements
Same
I could actually grind it with purpose then
take a screenshot of the steam achievements and check them off as you go lmao
is it this?
because that's an erebus gate
yes itd that one
i didn't remember doing an achievement for infernal troves so i was confused
yeah that's an erebus gate
there's an upgrade with the house contractor that allows erebus gates
5 gems or something idk
.... bruh
erebus gates also require you to take heat levels, 5 for tartarus, 10 for aspho, 15 for ely
I just want achievements, and what's even better is Poseidon chipped me out of the fated list, bc i beat em3 Elysium
dang i didn't realize how many achievements there were
iirc i finished most of them by just playing the game and doing whatever and didn't grind them until i had like 6 left or so
Hey guys, does aanyone know how to transfer my xbox live save to steam? cheers.
Beo moment
beoment
beo best shield
Zag shield exists so wrong
Em 4 is hard. I had gotten used to winning.
I wasted way too long getting an erebus gate in tart and actually hit 0 seconds during meg fight
Albeit during literally the last second of meg fight so nothing bad happened
I have +39% rare from chaos and +20% epic from god pride and somehow my 2 hermes rolls have only been common
Hermes moment
yep you did
Finally beat it
now get the true ending lol
i've cleared Hades 5 times now... now working on heat level 1 with all the weapons. but i am trying to figure out what an offramp to playing will be. i don't want it to become a chore. i can't imagine going to high heat levels. earning all of the companions seems like a ton of work. is there a reasonable goal i can set to call it good?
20 heat is where you stop getting bounties if that sounds like an attainable goal
so like 160 clears if my math is right? seems like a high bar
I wouldn’t set bounties as an end goal
I’d just play around with different builds and weapons and see if you enjoy that
You’ll end up getting bounties if you do enjoy it
120 i think
how much effort to unlock all the hidden aspects?
they're hard in the sense that sometimes the people you need to talk to won't give you the line
and you need 5 titan blood invested into the weapon, so 30 titan blood needed total
And 5 blood per can be expensive earlier on
trading ambrosia for titan blood can be an option if you want to prioritize weapons over companions
haven't got hidden anything yet
man, they cant do this
You’ll need to get hidden spear before you can get any of the others
they cant just MAKE A CERB AND DUSA PLUSHIE AND EXPECT MY BROKE BUTT NOT TO WANT IT
Which means 5 blood in aspects that aren’t zagreus on the spear then talk to

it do be like that
Achilles after fighting hades
why is it 179$ for the 3 posters 💀
the zagreus pin is sooo cute
the shipping to my country is gonna be more expensive than everything combined
omg the plushie
i think it's because there's only 1000 of them so it's a limited thing
oh
alas i am broke and cannot afford such an expense
me fr fr
the cerberus plush confirms that the hound of hell has a butthole, this is new lore
i think its the paper used that makes it so expensive
don't shoot the messenger
💀
why not
💀
merch looks sick
yeah but my bank account look deceased
Just like all the skulls people putting in this channel rn
omggg the prints look awesome but way out of budget 
just like most darkness upgrades
bc theyre high quality giclee print on heavier paper
why can't powerA only release lithium battery controllers
im glad the hades one is
57 dollars shipping 😭
lol huge mood
So question are the devs going to keep working on new games
but all of their wireless switch controllers should be lithium lmao
Or
lol
chances are they probably are working on something new at this point
hades releasing on your eFridge
I would be more surprised if somehow a new hades update appears than a new game
babe wake up new hades merch just dropped
everytime i play hades something terrible happens to me so i think im cursed not to play it lol
blackout, isp stops working, laptop froze to death, bsod
the horrible thing that happens for me is i dont come out of my room for a week bc i must get one more run
So happy they have a hades shirt

Already got the controller so if anyone is debating it its worth it 100%
why only 4 pins 
i want a whole ass collection
no
yeah why havent they come up with an artbook.. i would buy 😭
think there was a more recent reply to this on the reddit ama but im not going to look through that currently since their general sentiment on the topic hasnt shifted much when they've responded to it
'Are there any plans/talk for an art book?'
Really appreciate the interest from folks on something like this though it's not something we have in the works right now...! As a small team, we always have to make trade-offs between staying focused on game development vs. opportunities to do cool stuff like this. We would want to make it really special if we were to do it.
thank god i got paid today so i could splurge on this
though with their merch shifting to fangamer that may open up some options. no guarantees though
Eight dollars on shipping 
13 for me plus 4 for tax ripp
i get paid on thursday although i already have plenty in my account
i already had planned to spend $30 for something, another $140 elsewhere, but because of the hades merch ill postpone the $140 etsy spend lol
I spent a lot of money on the fma pop parade figure line.. but then again i haven't been ordering any food for about two months now
tryna calculate how many more weeks left i have of this job before it interferes with schooling, then ill be taking shifts at a lower paying one during the school year again
😭 being a nerd is expensive
capitalism... 
it really is phew
this one thing i planned to get in the $140 etsy order was this undertale diorama cube of Frisk and on one side it says it's you! in color and the other is despite everything, it's still you its by console cubes look it up
rip im getting off topic of channel
Dioramas are nice
That sounds super cute
I've been eyeing the other merch on site because of this as well
YEAH!
Cerbie plushie cuter
i bought it hehe
Dammit Supergiant, I was trying to save money this month! This collection is beautiful
plushies?
Plushies!!
Yusss Cerberus plushy time
Cerberus plushie here I come
really wish i could buy just one of those limited edition posters..
Aww heck yeah I just got paid it’s time to buy some m e r c h
needs more t-shirts
Can't wait for pin collection 2 with my fav Chaos, Hypnos and speed × skeletor ahahhaha
I want that dusa plush so bad
dang, 32 usd for dusa
It ain’t easy being green
almost 50 with shipping/taxes 
I was going to get her but I’m reconsidering now.
I desperately want those prints 
Waiting for fangamerJP's order news
Asian site need that cool plush and shirt
anyone know more similar games than hades especially with the heart system where you give gifts basically also like a bit of stardew valley when it comes to their npcs.
think it's the only game with those kind of rougelike and relationship system
If you're talking about Non-Roguelikes, Neon White and Danganronpa come to mind.
yeah i figured it would be a stretch although i would love to play new games even with the seperate mechanics
very nice
6 more to go
are there only 1000 of the poster sets? is that what it means
Need to have a vinyl for the soundtrack!
believe so
What is in limited quantity in the store?
the triptych print set
in the image previews it shows the posters having x/1000 at the bottom corner of it so i'm assuming it's limited
Will only a limited amount of the items be available on fangamer EU?
shipping from the US + customs + administrative custom fees are kinda killing so i wanna know if everything on the US store also comes to the EU one
or at least the Dusa plush
hey just making sure i'm not blind or dumb, but there isn't a long sleeve version of the "there is no escape" shirt, right?
||well for me 10th escape was merely the prologue of the story i love how there is an individual story for each npc||
I was looking for the reversed version of fury xd
Would have been perfect if there were options for that, but oh well
i was going to buy the Cerberus plush and the shipping was $100 so yeah, no hades merchandise for me 😭
you can use a pro on steam!
The Zag and Than pins are sold out, the thanzag brigade acted fast 😂 I was out and missed them
i checked out the store! the shirts are so nice, i might snag them !!
ah
I have no regrets with how much I just spent.... (~$300 USD)
Is it worth to buy 500 Darkness for 1 Ambrosia in the beginning?
yeah, ambrosia doesn't have a use until later in the game
early game u wanna get as much darkness and gems as possible also nectar everything else is more geared for late game
Also Darkness being heavily geared later in the game, if you like aesthetics 🙂
also a dad helmet
darkness
darkness.
I just had the greatest run ever
My main attack did like 700 damage
With the power volley
I was a Cerebus dog toy haha
I just found this server and wanted to say hello all, and a massive thank you to all the amazing folks at Supergiant! I bought Hades on a whim a few months ago and it very quickly became one of my favorite games, period. The music, the artstyle, the characters, the humor, the voice acting, the story (I love Greek mythology as is so i may be biased, but the sheer amount of detail is astounding) the gameplay, the brutal yet satisfying challenge, everything is just so damn good. I know im rambling and gushing but i hope that my inability to contain myself is understandable.
tl:dr, Hades gud, ty supergiant
Gotta ask: has this game ruined other roguelikes for anyone else too? I haven't been able to find something as fluid/fun as Hades, and everytime I open up a new roguelike to test it out, it's always "huh, it's not as good as Hades, I'll stop". Please, if anyone knows a good roguelike besides Hades, I'm taking recommendations.
have a nice death is in early access but it's pretty decent
Does hades give a keepsake
Eventually
2? I think
How do i give it to him after the first one
Just need to compelete more dialogue
Mannnn
I think
That’s a nerd thing to say
Lmao
it's not more dialogue, i'm fairly certain you need to reach the credits
I did
I still cant
I already did a run after getting the credits and the option still isnt there
Bumbytire mashing a through the credits
It doesnt work lmao
you can't offer him nectar at all?
Nope
It is obtained by giving Hades two gifts of Nectar in the House of Hades (NOTE: 10 clears are required for the second Nectar gift).
from the wiki^
Wth
did you try giving him one before you reached the credits?
I think you need to trigger some dialogue event
that's weird
how many times past the 10th clear have you tried?
because maybe if he's busy talking with someone else you can't give it to him
1
do a few more and try each time, he might've been busy with someone or something so you couldn't try
tbh a lot of issues in the game of "i can't get x from y" can be solved by "do more runs"
the last duos i need for the prophecy are freezing vortex and blizzard shot
not thrilled to say the least
i heard blizzard shot is pretty decent with talos if you want to give that a try
shoot the cast and pull enemies into it
freezing vortex, idk just get a weapon you're most comfortable with and get it with that
cheese it with me and dem call 
i mean obv they're pretty rare but there's a decent chance you're not seeing them often because you aren't taking the tier 2 boons that'll lead to a legendary boon
they aren't super rare
if you take their requirements and try to get them youll probably get them
I didnt knkw there was requirements
I got a zeus legendary and thought i got cuz i had a ton of zeus boons
i mean if you take enough of a god's boon you'll eventually get the legendary lol
you can look at the reqs in the codex
i feel like legendaries are definitely rarer than duos tbh in terms of realistic gameplay lol
then again, i don't chase legendaries very often
on that note, i think huge catch should be pommable
Huge catch should be multiplicative with global damage
i mean personally if i try to get a legendary its very likely i'll actually get it
bruh this is the third time in the past like hour that ive gotten a 3:30 aspho leave into a 6:00 ely leave
what is this game 
you're in gamer mode
no, 6:00 ely leave from a 3:30 aspho leave is really bad
yeah I like having 1:30 for styx
still eris abuse?
where sub 6
thats a minute away 
I expect sub 6 by tomorrow
what's a good ely leave time?
for a 3:30 aspho leave? a 5:20 ely leave is reasonable
rip i need to learn room layouts better
a big part of speedrunning on all aspects is learning how to group enemies well so you can kill a large number of enemies at the same time
makes sense
my apologies that's usually 15 minutes for me lmao
Whoever told me to do another run for hades keepsake was right
Lmao when in doubt do another run
also, wheres your sub 7? have you just been grinding heat lol
pins them to your screen so you can show off your build in a screenshot
my pb is .97 seconds
mine is 45 mins oof
30-ish with beo because beo best shield
Only 8:4something with beo lol
no surprise from you
6:43 on beowulf the shield
6:52 on eris the rail

Alright everyone: least favorite weapon
Chiron
I was thinking more weapon overall, but fair enough
Fists
For me personally, my least favorite is rail
mine is probably spear
same i dont like the spear
i think my record is 18m but i don't much try for speed
I like the nemesis and arthur
There is not a single aspect I like for either rail or spear, but spear is less annoying. There's a single bow aspect I like, shield is alright, and I enjoy fists and sword
Why don't you like rail
i only play like 1 aspect for each weapon basically lmao
It's a gun
i dont think they're american
I find it stressful and unpleasant to use
I am actually
How's it stressful 
dang there goes that point
managing ammo can be a pain if you're not used to it
somehow I prefer aspect of hades over achilies for spear
This, and I forget about the special half the time. And I'm also really bad with it which is also stressful
Understandable
Hmm
i love all the bow aspects
I feel like I am the boss
they go so hard
Chiron sucks
how
skill issue chiron is awesome
Aight mb
chiron with hammer is op
chiron sucks at high heat but at a more casual level of heat i think it's pretty decent
chiron sucks balls in styx
just get tdash
what do u guys think of rama
love rama
Best bow aspect
rama is amazing as long as you get twin shot lmao
twin shot power shot ggs wp
if u have the hammer of penetrate 3 enemy its very nice
There's a reason rama holds all the rama world records
TRUE!!
so for bow player its either chiron or rama
All of the bow aspects are good
Nah it's rama
really? i'm surprised
Hera kinda sucks at 32+
I dont like hera much
i think hera falls off once dc comes into play
For Hera you just shoot your casts at the enemy and then wait 5 seconds
Not good for heat
thats why
that's true
there's probably other factors but dc limits a lot of weapon viability for high heat in general
see thinking is not my strong suit
does supergiant games get a portion of the profit if i bought the plushie from fangamer
I'd say all of the other bows are better in high heat.
ok
damnit
i was gonna buy the art prints and the shirt
and ofc they sold out already
;-;
lmao it do be like that
yeah chaos memeing
I really love the aspect of chaos on the shield
I got it fully upgraded and I'm loving it
so true
guys guys. what if. There was a Hades panel at a con or something, and the VAs acted out a little skit in-character 
that skit should be zag with RD ichor spammed clockets instaphasing dad
[nukes the convention hall]
chiron is fine for single target damage but its really lacking when it comes to multiple targets which makes clearing rooms a nightmare
i am willing to say that chiron handles js the worst out of any aspect (if you arent playing it as bad zag bow)
I love chainshot and relentless volley with chiron
gamer
i hate chainshot on chiron because it changes where the reticle goes and it makes me do things i wasn't planning on
flood shot + a good call helps with that somewhat
i will say my merciful end chiron experiments were funny as heckaroni tho
randomness makes the life full of surprise
nouuu
nah the chiron build is aphrodite attack + artemis special for heart rend on the crits
- chaos buff on special
What
Just mod the cooldown out
Idk, can ask the modding server if its too hard to make
bro what lmfao
so true
that plus high voltage would give the aspect aoe
if (internalcooldown)
{ no(); }

the way to do it supergiant sttle would be to leave the original cooldown code unrouched and then reverse it a few lines later
chain lightning as well right?
nah storm lightning wouldnt work on it
because its not chain lightning
its a lightning bolt
Joined just so I could say, It'd be really cool if Supergiant added Thanatos' Scythe or Meg's Whip as dlc weapons. 🙂
it would be pretty cool, but they're not adding dlcs to hades unfortunately
true
[pot stirring intensifies]
but it's gotta be like an extremely good idea that would add on story not just "here's this have fun" probably
and that type of energy might be better worth spending on a new game they're working on, especially since it's a relatively small team
Haha. well maybe one day they'll do a special edition with more Gods, Bosses, Weapons, maybe even meet the Fates. If they wanted to add more story they could have ||Zag look for a way to exist on the surface or something.||
he doesnt really have a reason to chill on the surface now tbh
what about ||persephone’s garden 🥺||
he still can check it sometimes (at least if the post credits deaths are smth to tell about lol)
Zag will never be able to travel to mount olympus and party with dionysus 
just deal with dad so you can invite them all in again
I wish you could add stuff to the ||Garden|| in the underworld. Besides the || Statue || you get.
Can I stream/record hades
Yes?
Idk can you
I see hades streams and recordings all the time so I figure that it’s ok
I uploaded some of my hades runs to yt and amir personally came to my house and pinched my cheek
Did he say anything else
how does Cold Fusion work? does that mean they get jolt damage with every attack?
yeah until it times out
is dash at cursor even that terrible of an option for sword
i feel like i'm constantly missing my mark because i'm dashing slightly to the left of something
Dash at cursor is pretty much always bad
it is, but hardly any enemy attacks fast enough to dodge jolted
fo2
Fo2 💪💪
dash at cursor strats in boon% and fountain rooms tho
wtf is that chaos
too bad no arty special
yeah im hoping to see it in aspho
bruh lmfao
homie's zoomin
yeah i rerolled twice for rd and got epic greater haste instead
2 min tart exit 😩
yoo i got another ichor in ely end well
Eris route at home
Bad
pray for hermes now lmao
oh
well yeah im bad at the tartarus
most of my good tart leave paces are like 1:50
No
very cool
Does having an unbreakable bond with a character do anything
No
yeah i reset a lot in tart
you get a cool chibi art thingy
i reset in tart to get a 1:50 tart leave, i then get a 3:30 aspho leave and then a 6:00 ely leave
thats how my runs have been going for the past day pretty much
Nice
getting the cool chibi art thing is the only real reason to play the game
and once you get them you just keep playing because it's fun
yo that's pretty good
good idea
lol 5:30 ely leave with an awful build
i never got offered +dashes or hs from hermes lol
cold fusion is a nice flex for casual play at best
i can't imagine it being super helpful at heat remembers fo2 never mind it might be good to have
Hi
So guys I just reached the true end made a few escape attempts after
Upgraded the my rank in hades chamber to one cost me 3k darkness and 1 titan blood
Still have some achievements not done yet
Gifted all characters in game ...
So is there anything worth playing more? I'll sure keep playing it but maybe after a break playing another game
- is there any way to find a rare fish or its about luck ? i catched 2 types from chaos chamber thought they would be rare but they're not
perfect catches give you a 50/50 between legendary and rare i believe
you need to get it like .33 seconds after the ding or something
32 heat for skelly statues, companions, some storylines with sisyphus and achilles (i think that's tied with companions), storyline for nyx
might be more i'm missing
Is there a specific time I should wait after the ding or just wait much longer before I start fishing?
the bobber will dip and there will be a flash of light. pull it up then
Got first statue is there any reward from it or just like achievement?
Didn't get it what is companions 😅
steam achievement is the 2nd statue, 3rd statue has none but it looks nice
you get companions by giving ambrosia to a certain 5 people
Ah got it
I'll try
Got 5 or 6 companions already
Is there more titles or ranks (idk what it was called) upgrades from hades chamber after the one that cost 3k dark and 1 Titan blood?
oh there's a ton
in total it costs like 300k darkness
so dont expect to be completing that any time soon
I have enough titan blood to max them maybe but for me I'm not having any benefits from most of the upgrades cuz i don't use the skills they upgrade if u understand what I mean
😂
Oh great
cold fusion is pretty bad, anything that you put zeus on is going to be used frequently enough that cold fusion doesnt really matter
Thx for help bro
6 companions. meg, than, dusa, skelly, achilles/patroclus, bouldy
that's a lot of titan blood you have in stock then because thats like 15*18 titan blood lmao
ah very cool
one benefit of it is that it can destroy asterius
and anything that destroys asterius is good because asterius sucks
Got like 30 idk how much it costs to fully upgrade all cuz as i said most of the upgrades weren't useful for me😂
for each weapon, not including zag aspects, it costs roughly 15 for each (give or take 1) so that's 50 each (including zag aspects)
so like 300 titan blood or so lmao
Oh thought all aspects were like zag aspects get maxed after 3 or 4 upgrades 😂
well yeah they do
but they cost a bunch each
like getting the hidden aspects +1 is 3 titan blood each
Ah now I get it
you can get 3 titan blood each run if you trade the ambrosia, every 2 diamonds is an ambrosia as well
so in like 100 completed bounty runs you can max all weapons or something lmao
Not interested still 😂
U know some upgrades about cast or something like maim things I don't use
the cast based weapons in this game are really good lmao
says the person who's done 50 heat on beo
that was a joke but unironically beo 50 isn't really the easiest
yeah ik lmao
because 50 is "comfy" with RI and AP but beo hates both
and if you don't know EM4 that heat is hard to make up
fair
also EM4 is hard even if you know it because non cshot is preferable
and non cshot beo can be a pain since you lose time everywhere
beyblade mode = KILL

Spoiler warning
Does Charon get new moves or anything that makes him harder if I fight him in Elysium vs Tartarus?
I just challenged him in Tartarus with nothing but a Artemis boon on my Achilles spear excepting him to kill my run cause I had to leave and I ended up beating him

he’s same difficulty in any biome
Uh
Bad wording
He has the same strength across the all biomed
The only difference is how much stuff you have
fighting charon in tartarus is harder because you’ll have less boons and hammer but more rewarding because you’ll have the loyalty card for the entirety of your run
Fghting charon in elysium will be easier due to you having more boons/hammers but you get less value from the loyalty card since you have it for less time
The card lasts the whole run
Having it earlier lets u get more value out of it.
but since you’ll have it for more shops if you get it earlier you get more value from it
rather then picking it up later and only having it for the last few shops before hades (which is still good, don’t get me wrong)
Anyways that was a side tangent
He’s the same in every area the only thing that changes is what you have when you fight him
Is common hyper sprint good enough for rush delivery dash striking?
Hyper Sprint Rarity doesnt matter
i mean if you reroll for rare it'll just be .6 which is marginally better
Should I be trying to powershot? It seems like hyper sprint is wearing off before I can powershot
Dash after you powershot
yeah you chain dash strikes together
does artemis' hunter dash affect shattered shackle?
so the bonus applies?
Yes
On your dash strikes you’ll be doing +100% and your hunter dash bonus
Which weapon are you using?
aspect of arthur
i wonder if i should go for the 145% backstab or 70% damage from chaos
Ik this is 3 hrs later but I’d take 70% damage if it’s attack damage
If it’s dash strike I’d maybe not
yo
Only need to beat hades witht he aspect of guan yu and I'm done with the aspect dialogue for the spear. Which builds could you peop advise me to use to unlock the rest of the spear's bounties?
#h1-discussion message
Gy guide by Nyaanyaa
I gotta copy that somewhe4re. I wasn't saying only the aspect of guan yu. I'm just ooking for the fastest aspect and build to aim for to unlock the rest of the bounties. I'm doing aspect of guan yu because of the unique lines XD
I don't know who you are, but I give you the highest award I can bestow: saving this text for future use and a green heart
Thanks for the kind words! 💝
She holds many great pieces of knowledge
just died against hades when on his last few hits.
GUess I gott get good, I suppose
Non-optimal build, but it was a fun one. With aspect of guan yu, athena strike and quick charge, just throw and forget
plewase, qwuick: massive or quick spin as guan yu?
I may require your exprertise later on. Hope to come across u again ^_^
Quick personally
Makes spin safe to use mid combat
Umm, can I ask for help here?
Yeah
I'd like some ideas for a combo of using athena strike on Guan Yu, if somebody may. I get that it isn't optimal, but I wanna do it just for fun XD
I kind of have a serious issue after turning off God Mode... I beat the game, at around 45-50 attempts, and I decided to give myself more of a challenge by turning god mode off. The thing is,I don't think I'm fighting easy enemies like you do the first time you play the game. I think they're throwing much tougher and armored enemies into early levels. When you players turned off god mode, did this also seem this way to you?? Or is it maybe just in my head? Bc I really don't think so. I might even start a new game to see if I'm right.
Sorry, it's a bit long. But I'm just worried that I maybe actually suck at Hades!
Or I'm right, and they do put tougher enemies at beginning stages after you've done enough runs/beaten the game
Kind of like Devil May Cry
Reaching the surface adds the wringers (grabby hands) and sneak mini boss to tart but outside of that not really
Unless you are using the pact of punishment, so for example the enemies do more dmg feels more punishing
Or where benefits package makes armored enemies show up earlier (which is true for god mode and without it)
God mode is only the dmg resistance that showns
Ok, that sums it up quite nicely. Thank you so much for the insightful answer.
I guess I'll keep my god mode turned off. I may suck (for now), but I'll keep playing and practicing.
Ah to be specific a bit more
Some things do change the more runs you do (like the other 2 furies showing up, different colors on the hydra heat, heroes gaining new moves after a certain event)
But once again, is not cuz you turned off god mode, it will be the same
After playing Dark Souls, Sekiro, DMC5 Dante Must Die, and many other games on their highest difficulty, I have no idea what made me turn God Mode on, lol
Game still hard/want to enjoy the story
Ok, even more valuable information.
On a bit of tips, your dashes have full iframes, but dash striking removes them
Haha, yeah, that's what it was! I wanted to enjoy the story, beat the game, and then turn it off!
I remember now
LOL
quick >>> massive tbh
Massive is for the funny
taking massive spin with guan yu is kinda a cope pick for me
I did not know you lose iframes while dash striking... I do that A LOT
just like that guan yu exclusive hammer
all god keepsakes are SS tier
Both work just fine. Definitely Quick Spin if you're running Forced Overtime.
Tnx. How should I go if I get neither and I wanna use athena's strike? I guess aohro would be a lot better for survivability, but, u know, gotta go wild and have fun sometimes XD
Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat, pretty much. So assuming you take Divine Strike, you'll want a good Special boon. Deadly Flourish would be great for damage and to get their Duo Boon.
The go-to build in Guan Yu speedruns is Curse of Agony + Divine Flourish to get Merciful End and then also get Divine Dash.
That'll get you the best DPS on Guan Yu.
So that's a strong option if you want to use Lady Athena in your build.
ironic the optimal dps is not about using it's gimmik XD. I wonder if rhis can be changed with modding. Still like 100 hours rill I get thete, though.

I just mash together strings of stuff and have fun
Up to hear 10. Trying to diversify more away from the swords hidden aspect
Since it's a bit heavier and slower
And higher heats tend to get busy
It's still one of the easiest to clear 32 Heat with. You're pretty far off from where Excalibur falls off.
But you're right it falls off at high heat.
If you avoid taking Forced Overtime and Damage Control, you should have a relatively easy time.
can confirm 32 is pretty easy with arthur
even 40 was
I wouldn't go higher than that tho
Would anyone know why after I killed Extreme Measures Theseus and have seen Poseidon a couple of times why I am not getting the prophecy fulfilled?
i think dialogue/story stuff only pop up the first time you meet the god, and at that point it's also still rng
I mean, that works. But I like exploring everything XD
I'll leave the button mashing andd extra optimizing for when I start uwing mods
There are some specifics as well. They may give you some challenges to do (poseidon and ares only, I think) after some pre-requisites I think u can see on the wiki. They have specific dialogue as well for duo boons, as well as some weapon aspects and their own keepsakes.
well they said they're not getting the prophecy fulfilled so i'm assuming they already had the prophecy
When you purposely anger a god and get their god gauge up to full, only to get back to your fated list and realize that's a Steam achievo and not something that does anything when you play on the Switch
the other fated list
Still fun interaction. A priceless memory. 
what keepsakes are "standard" im achievement hunting
God 1 > God 2 > Acorn/Bone Hourglass > Acorn
Someone should have mentioned that credits roll after 10 clears, that would have been a good answer 😄
I would say don't worry too much about a long-term goal and just play when you feel like it knowing there's always gonna be new stuff to discover. But there's a lot of mini goals you can set like any prophecies that sound fun or unlocking a weapon aspect you wanna try out.
Since runs are pretty quick, you can just do a quick run or two whenever you feel like playing some Hades.
How often if ever would you take any other room over a Eurydice/Sisyphus/Patroclus room?
i might take chaos over sisyphus but i'd dont think i'd skip any of the other ones over chaos
If I’m in sweat mode, I usually prioritize the free room; but yeah same as bananas. But I’ve skipped Eurydice for a zeus Poseidon trial numerous times; that was worth it
i almost always take euridyce, sisyphus is pretty good but i skip patroclus a lot
(because i don't need it)
(because i don't run heat)
true at low heat patty can be pretty unimportant if your build doesn't rely on atk and you have full DD's and hp
thing is with eurydice tho nearly every time i take her, the next room is generally a miniboss room for whatever god's keepsake i have equipped so it's a free rarity upgrade
well aren't you lucky
Yeah once you’re on stubborn defiance lc4 you will never not take Patty
But I’ve skipped him for a trial before lol
Just cause I had a Chad build and wanted to destroy more stuff
also edge cases where extra damage from Earring helps against TD timeout
Angel streams has educated me on the marvels of Earring Ely even if you take pat
Suddenly TD comfy, just don't die to EM3
is it a global damage boost?
Ye
It's pretty good at beeg heats
just use mods ez
fun stuff
yup have fun try not to die
Mods won't save you much in Ely
Can’t hurt
achilles spear for various cast builds such as hunting blades or meme beams, guan yu for special spam
ty
i believe lightning phalanx is also good with achilles spear
lmao rip
lightning phalanx?
That's why I was asking for cosnsistent ones, that on't require a secific combination or hammer upgrae
it'll clear rooms pretty fast but probably struggle more against bosses
none of what i said had anything to do with hammers
obv hammers improves the build like flurry jab for achilles and charged skewer for guan yu but not completely necessary
spear doesnt really go with consistent 
hammer needy af
or if you go a cast related build and no duo
T.T
true lmao
what is guan yu special spam? i'm almost 16 heat and with spear and i still haven't really built around guan yu's special
basically special is the strongest part of guan yu since it has good base damage, range, and big boy aoe
you pray for charged skewer, put beefy +% on it, and spam it for long ranged area damage
the main gimmick of guan yu, the health steal part, isn't exactly bad, it's just the fact that the spin takes too long to charge for it to be good
so you essentially play guan yu like a weird hestia, dashing and using 1 button to deal damage
do you have to wear myrmidon bracer every time you talk to patroclus to initiate convo about achilles or no?
nope
guess i'm getting unlucky then
whats em4
extreme measures 4
i got used to hard labor max then my friend saw it he was like surprised? is it that hard?
For some people yeah. I personally dont find it too hard but I rarely activate it bcs it's kinda annoying. It's just me tho ehe
i mean ofc it's more punishing when you get hit, but there are easier pacts to take that dont require max hard labor
but at the same time just dont get hit lmao
if you need a bit of extra heat to fill up a bounty then HL isn't a bad fill up option
it's probably the best one that only costs 1 heat
my dead ass thought it was one of the easier pacts lmao
i always have it on 100% which is 5 heat
On youtube SGG confirmed no plans for an artbook 
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/763965577202106373/1002812710460858448/Screenshot_20220730-013634.jpg
on its own it's not super bad, but with stuff like FO2 and BP it can hurt sometimes
Lernie bops doing 32 per hit can easily be 1 SD down
i think they went more in depth somewhere else in a different comment, it was something along the lines of "takes too much time and effort for a small team like us to organize that, but with fangamer helping it might be a possibility in the future"
oh thank you for sharing, I didn't see that!
ngl i dont remember where i read that from
but i do remember the "small team, not likely" bit
Sometimes I compare official merch to like fanmade merch and I'm like, people put together really nice looking fanzines with small teams... I guess it's because SGG always holds themselves to a really high standard
if I get stubborn defiance at the mirror, can I later upgrade it to have 2 charges/room? Also, if I use skelly's tooth, can I have 2 stubborn defiances/room, or will it add a regular death defiance?
I for the love of god can't manage to kill the boss in elysium, no matter how good the run
Can’t upgrade it later to be 2 defiances per room
Skelly tooth works like a regular death defiance where it goes away upon usage iirc
so ig it's better to have 3/run than 1/chamber
also any good boons besides cerberus collar, zeus signet or skelly's tooth? And if so, from who?
Farther into the game eventually you start running it to heal at all I think
Are you asking about good starting keepsakes?
It depends on the weapon
oh yeah keepsakes, not boons. Mb
Because different gods work better on different weapons
I found that zeus works really well on the spear
But unless you are a certain psychopath you’re gonna want to start a run with the keepsake of the god who’s attack/special/cast/dash you want to start with
I see
any tips for the damned elysium boss then?
closest I got was getting the bull of minos to a quarter hp
stay by pillars since they block theseus potshots and asterius charge
take down asterius first obviously
when he does his leap attack it's safe to dash into him to dodge it
also if you just wanna cheese the fight, shield breaks it since you can block every attack in the boss encounter
I'm also not too sure how to use the titan's blood. A friend told me I can upgrade my weapons with it, but dunno how to unlock that
oh I see
unlock all weapons first
does it block when charging the regular attack into a dash?
not sure what you mean
like
any time you're charging bull rush the block is in effect
Did you call the bullrush a dash?
no I meant the shield
The bullrush
you can charge it's basic attack into a sort of 'dash'
When you hold attack on the shield
It charges your bullrush
and blocks attacks that hit the shield
so the way to cheese fights with the shield is attack and hold to block while pointing it towards any enemy that's attacking you
Don’t call it a dash since that’s a different thing already existing in the game and bullrush is the actual term for it
the moment they're done just release to bull rush and do some damage, then immediately put shield back up
Just for future usage
you're effectively invincible while doing this
does it block asterius's charge or leap into smash attack?
both as long as you're pointing it the right way
oh wow
and the angle is very generous
so yeah just block while asterius does his thing and when he's done bull rush him
nice and simple
remember that you're completely invincible from all angles while bull rushing
except from directly behind yourself
if you get hit in the back it's an instadeath
it's to balance the shield
If you could add any weapon to hades what would you add
a nuke
fighter jet
did you use an aspect
most of the shield aspects are great
they make runs easier once you learn to use them
when you find them your success rates will improve
which boss, champions of ely?
yeah
what part is giving you trouble?
everything
too tanky, too much damage, too hard to dodge
having 4 titan's blood and not being able to use it
on your last run what boons you had? i know you used the shield
oh that's not the last run by now
do you have all weapons unlocked
I just unlocked the last one, yeah
a way to use titan blood should be unlocked by now
well it doesn't seem it is
should be the run after you unlock them all
try to interact with your selected weapon again
nope, nothing's happening
if you have all weapons unlocked that is
do one more run and then it should unlock
I'm sick of this boss ngl
I'll just take a break since I'm dangerously close to doing something I might regret
do you know about dashes giving iframes? and dash striking removing those
im sure people here can give you tips on how to beat them more easily, or how to get a more powerful build. i believe you can do it, but taking a break when youre frustrated is good
well the last 6 runs out of 11 in total were ended in that same room
is the gun a good weapon btw?
for specific attacks
spear throw: keep attention to the mark that starts getting brighter, means theseus is about to throw it, can hide behind a pillar
also yeah the rail is good
5 runs to get to the heroes is really good time
what keepsakes you normally take into elysium btw?
skelly's tooth
do you have eurydice keepsake?
no
I have one nectar, though
wanted to give it to thanatos but since that one time I haven't seen him since
try to get it at some point, it blocks the next 3/4/5 hits from the boss of that area
at max is normally most than the 100 hp from tooth (unless you also use it in normal combat during ely)
I still dunno whether I should get death defiance lvl 2 or unlock stubborn defiance
def 2nd lvl
very disagreeable statement there
death defiance is a lot better for boss fights





