#h1-discussion

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lean timber
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+100 armor? not sure

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in general, everything is viable... until you run mid heats

rustic vale
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zag sword, honestly a lot of the sword hammers, and like talos?(maybe), hades spear. that's all I can think of off the top of my head

warm nimbus
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there are a lot of things i can think of but its much more from a meta standpoint

mint coral
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Olympian favor ig?

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Not bad per se but dark foresight exists

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Oh wait, wouldnt call it worst

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Just weaker

patent mesa
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cold embrace

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underdrive

lean timber
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erm cold embrace is actually helpful with positioning if you don't have the artemis-demeter duo! 🤓

lean timber
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in the actual greek mythology, is chaos ever personified in any way? i can't recall any

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i guess my question is "is chaos an original interpretation"

latent moon
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so chaos isn't exactly an original interpretation, but maybe the way the game writers wrote them is original

lean timber
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i know that most forces like chaos and night were named and worshipped and all that, but i wasn't sure if they were like

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really "well described" as having a form or personality and all that

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so yeah, good enough answer for me

chrome wharf
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iirc Ponywarrior was working on a mod like that, buffing the less meta boons

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I'll say Ares' Aid not letting you attack, and Dark Regeneration

spare tartan
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What does the hollowed ground from the arthur sword aspect do

rustic vale
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Makes you take less damage while in it

spare tartan
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How much lssz

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Less

rustic vale
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Based on level

spare tartan
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Wdym

rustic vale
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It’s based on the aspects level

spare tartan
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Oh

rustic vale
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I’m pretty sure it also slows down enemy projectiles in the hallowed ground but I have no source for that

spare tartan
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How much damage reduction at level 1

rustic vale
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25% I think?

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Scaling up to 40% at level 5

spare tartan
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So if i have godmode at max am i invincible in the radius

rustic vale
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No it’s 20% to 40%

hot ether
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So im trying to go for a few achievments, and one is really starting to bother me, How do you go about getting the Infernal Trove one?

rustic vale
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Not additive

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So

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I don’t use godmode idk how much damage reduction it gives

spare tartan
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Its 80% at max

rustic vale
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But you won’t be invincible

spare tartan
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Aw man

rustic vale
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You’ll be taking 16% of the damage instead of 20%

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at level 1

spare tartan
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With godmode 16 or without

rustic vale
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If you have godmode on

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And arthur

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You’ll be taking 16%

spare tartan
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Okay

rustic vale
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If you have just godmode you’ll be taking 20%

spare tartan
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Thats still pretty epic

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Makes heat easier

rustic vale
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Turn off godmode shadesmile

spare tartan
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No

rustic vale
spare tartan
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I turned in on after i beat the game

rustic vale
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What

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Why

spare tartan
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Cuz i didnt know it existed before i beat the game

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I never opened settings

rustic vale
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I’m so confused about why you would turn it on after you beat the game like you were good enough to get that far without it

spare tartan
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Its fun

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Less worrying about dying yk

latent moon
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if you beat the game without it then you wont need it afterwards but to each their own lol

rustic vale
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To each their own I guess

spare tartan
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Yee

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Im trying to get high win streaks without worrys

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Im at 4

latent moon
latent moon
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the thing before each biome?

hot ether
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i have no clue, the achievment says to enter and infernal trove without taking damage and it looks like a choas thing

latent moon
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with the keepsakes?

spare tartan
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Nonono

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It makes u do a fight for stuff like gems and health

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Sometimes darkness

latent moon
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oh yeah so i was right

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well if it says to do it without taking damage then just do that lol, do you normally take damage in rooms

hot ether
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oh they are the chests nvm

spare tartan
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Lmao

hot ether
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im just being dumb i thought they were the chaos gates

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well it has a picture of the chaos gates next to it so I thought thats what it was

latent moon
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i'm assuming you're doing steam achievements?

spare tartan
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I wish switch had achievements

rustic vale
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Same

spare tartan
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I could actually grind it with purpose then

latent moon
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take a screenshot of the steam achievements and check them off as you go lmao

hot ether
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yes itd that one

latent moon
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i didn't remember doing an achievement for infernal troves so i was confused

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yeah that's an erebus gate

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there's an upgrade with the house contractor that allows erebus gates

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5 gems or something idk

hot ether
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.... bruh

latent moon
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erebus gates also require you to take heat levels, 5 for tartarus, 10 for aspho, 15 for ely

hot ether
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I just want achievements, and what's even better is Poseidon chipped me out of the fated list, bc i beat em3 Elysium

latent moon
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dang i didn't realize how many achievements there were

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iirc i finished most of them by just playing the game and doing whatever and didn't grind them until i had like 6 left or so

wheat orchid
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Hey guys, does aanyone know how to transfer my xbox live save to steam? cheers.

mint coral
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Beo moment

warm nimbus
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beoment

tall holly
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beo best shield

mint coral
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Zag shield exists so wrong

sleek kite
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Em 4 is hard. I had gotten used to winning.

rustic vale
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I wasted way too long getting an erebus gate in tart and actually hit 0 seconds during meg fight

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Albeit during literally the last second of meg fight so nothing bad happened

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I have +39% rare from chaos and +20% epic from god pride and somehow my 2 hermes rolls have only been common

mint coral
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Hermes moment

rustic vale
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Got hyper sprint though so

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Atleast I got something good

spare tartan
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I think i beat the game

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The credits are rolling

latent moon
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yep you did

spare tartan
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Finally beat it

latent moon
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now get the true ending lol

spare tartan
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Yee

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This is the only game ive bothered to read the dialoug for

runic meadow
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i've cleared Hades 5 times now... now working on heat level 1 with all the weapons. but i am trying to figure out what an offramp to playing will be. i don't want it to become a chore. i can't imagine going to high heat levels. earning all of the companions seems like a ton of work. is there a reasonable goal i can set to call it good?

rustic vale
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20 heat is where you stop getting bounties if that sounds like an attainable goal

runic meadow
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so like 160 clears if my math is right? seems like a high bar

signal aspen
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It's fun tho

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There's still a lot of story left

raw herald
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I wouldn’t set bounties as an end goal

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I’d just play around with different builds and weapons and see if you enjoy that

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You’ll end up getting bounties if you do enjoy it

runic meadow
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how much effort to unlock all the hidden aspects?

rustic vale
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Not much

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Have you got hidden spear?

latent moon
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they're hard in the sense that sometimes the people you need to talk to won't give you the line

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and you need 5 titan blood invested into the weapon, so 30 titan blood needed total

rustic vale
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And 5 blood per can be expensive earlier on

latent moon
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trading ambrosia for titan blood can be an option if you want to prioritize weapons over companions

runic meadow
spice hare
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man, they cant do this

rustic vale
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You’ll need to get hidden spear before you can get any of the others

spice hare
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they cant just MAKE A CERB AND DUSA PLUSHIE AND EXPECT MY BROKE BUTT NOT TO WANT IT

rustic vale
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Which means 5 blood in aspects that aren’t zagreus on the spear then talk to

spice hare
latent moon
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it do be like that

rustic vale
ancient sigil
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why is it 179$ for the 3 posters 💀

brisk trail
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the zagreus pin is sooo cute

thorn oak
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Cerberus Stuffed (With Stuffing)

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You love to see it!

spice hare
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the shipping to my country is gonna be more expensive than everything combined

hushed wren
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omg the plushie

latent moon
ancient sigil
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oh

latent moon
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alas i am broke and cannot afford such an expense

spice hare
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me fr fr

rustic hollow
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the cerberus plush confirms that the hound of hell has a butthole, this is new lore

spice hare
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bro

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why you looking at plushie buttholes

void vigil
rustic hollow
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don't shoot the messenger

ancient sigil
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💀

brisk trail
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why not

spice hare
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💀

sacred hatch
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merch looks sick

spice hare
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yeah but my bank account look deceased

rustic vale
tiny frigate
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omggg the prints look awesome but way out of budget shadegrief

spice hare
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just like most darkness upgrades

narrow hemlock
ancient sigil
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why can't powerA only release lithium battery controllers

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im glad the hades one is

gray bone
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57 dollars shipping 😭

brisk trail
azure osprey
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So question are the devs going to keep working on new games

ancient sigil
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but all of their wireless switch controllers should be lithium lmao

azure osprey
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Or

brisk trail
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they can just milk out hades for a while longer at this rate

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i give it 2 more years

ancient sigil
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lol

narrow hemlock
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chances are they probably are working on something new at this point

spice hare
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hades releasing on your eFridge

mint coral
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I would be more surprised if somehow a new hades update appears than a new game

delicate flame
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babe wake up new hades merch just dropped

spice hare
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everytime i play hades something terrible happens to me so i think im cursed not to play it lol

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blackout, isp stops working, laptop froze to death, bsod

halcyon smelt
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the horrible thing that happens for me is i dont come out of my room for a week bc i must get one more run

civic rose
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So happy they have a hades shirt

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Already got the controller so if anyone is debating it its worth it 100%

spice hare
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nyx on the poster look absolutely smashing

tiny frigate
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why only 4 pins thanthink

spice hare
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you only need meg and nyx

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maybe zag

tiny frigate
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i want a whole ass collection

ember oak
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hi guys

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have a question

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is there a "the art of hades" book yet?

narrow hemlock
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no

ember oak
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:/

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thx

brisk trail
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yeah why havent they come up with an artbook.. i would buy 😭

narrow hemlock
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think there was a more recent reply to this on the reddit ama but im not going to look through that currently since their general sentiment on the topic hasnt shifted much when they've responded to it

#ask-supergiant message

'Are there any plans/talk for an art book?'

Really appreciate the interest from folks on something like this though it's not something we have in the works right now...! As a small team, we always have to make trade-offs between staying focused on game development vs. opportunities to do cool stuff like this. We would want to make it really special if we were to do it.
weak shadow
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thank god i got paid today so i could splurge on this

narrow hemlock
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though with their merch shifting to fangamer that may open up some options. no guarantees though

sinful nebula
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Eight dollars on shipping residentzag

delicate flame
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i get paid on thursday although i already have plenty in my account

sinful nebula
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The more expensive option for me is about 35 dollars haha

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I can wait a little..

delicate flame
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i already had planned to spend $30 for something, another $140 elsewhere, but because of the hades merch ill postpone the $140 etsy spend lol

sinful nebula
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I spent a lot of money on the fma pop parade figure line.. but then again i haven't been ordering any food for about two months now

delicate flame
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tryna calculate how many more weeks left i have of this job before it interferes with schooling, then ill be taking shifts at a lower paying one during the school year again

sinful nebula
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😭 being a nerd is expensive

delicate flame
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capitalism... pensiveclown

delicate flame
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this one thing i planned to get in the $140 etsy order was this undertale diorama cube of Frisk and on one side it says it's you! in color and the other is despite everything, it's still you its by console cubes look it up

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rip im getting off topic of channel

sinful nebula
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Dioramas are nice

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That sounds super cute

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I've been eyeing the other merch on site because of this as well

celest shell
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THE DUSA PLUSHIE TALKS

delicate flame
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YEAH!

civic rose
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Cerbie plushie cuter

delicate flame
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i bought it hehe

small raptor
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Dammit Supergiant, I was trying to save money this month! This collection is beautiful

thorny mirage
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plushies?

unique scaffold
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Plushies!!

topaz sequoia
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Yusss Cerberus plushy time

deft mulch
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Cerberus plushie here I come

smoky igloo
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really wish i could buy just one of those limited edition posters..

shut palm
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Aww heck yeah I just got paid it’s time to buy some m e r c h

small creek
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I bought the No Escape Shirt and the Cerberus Plush.

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Worth it.

green dune
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needs more t-shirts

gilded helm
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Can't wait for pin collection 2 with my fav Chaos, Hypnos and speed × skeletor ahahhaha

dry acorn
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I want that dusa plush so bad

molten skiff
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Broo why switch controller 😭

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Can't even use that on my pc

sinful nebula
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They're limited edition???

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Nooo 😢

quiet smelt
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Cerb Plush ordered

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let’s go

sand stump
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Everytime i see a notification in this server, i have a sliver of hope for a DLC

dry acorn
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dang, 32 usd for dusa

quiet smelt
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It ain’t easy being green

dry acorn
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almost 50 with shipping/taxes dusa

copper canopy
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I was going to get her but I’m reconsidering now.

idle furnace
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I desperately want those prints failbag

latent moon
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mood

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anyone got a couple hundred bucks they can spare lol

frigid coral
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Waiting for fangamerJP's order newsresidentzag Asian site need that cool plush and shirt

hollow path
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anyone know more similar games than hades especially with the heart system where you give gifts basically also like a bit of stardew valley when it comes to their npcs.

wind sluice
small creek
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If you're talking about Non-Roguelikes, Neon White and Danganronpa come to mind.

hollow path
wind sluice
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I see

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beat Hades 4 times so far

latent moon
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very nice

copper canopy
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6 more to go

sterile sail
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are there only 1000 of the poster sets? is that what it means

timid solar
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Need to have a vinyl for the soundtrack!

sterile sail
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dang

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might have to splurge

copper canopy
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What is in limited quantity in the store?

latent moon
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the triptych print set

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in the image previews it shows the posters having x/1000 at the bottom corner of it so i'm assuming it's limited

thick cypress
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Will only a limited amount of the items be available on fangamer EU?

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shipping from the US + customs + administrative custom fees are kinda killing so i wanna know if everything on the US store also comes to the EU one

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or at least the Dusa plush

tall cloak
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hey just making sure i'm not blind or dumb, but there isn't a long sleeve version of the "there is no escape" shirt, right?

hollow path
# copper canopy 6 more to go

||well for me 10th escape was merely the prologue of the story i love how there is an individual story for each npc||

copper canopy
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Ah okay

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Same

ivory perch
tall cloak
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Would have been perfect if there were options for that, but oh well

wise pecan
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i was going to buy the Cerberus plush and the shipping was $100 so yeah, no hades merchandise for me 😭

lean timber
wind tendon
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The Zag and Than pins are sold out, the thanzag brigade acted fast 😂 I was out and missed them

snow hazel
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i checked out the store! the shirts are so nice, i might snag them !!

molten skiff
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ah

coarse iris
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I have no regrets with how much I just spent.... (~$300 USD)

lofty raptor
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Is it worth to buy 500 Darkness for 1 Ambrosia in the beginning?

latent moon
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yeah, ambrosia doesn't have a use until later in the game

left wigeon
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early game u wanna get as much darkness and gems as possible also nectar everything else is more geared for late game

brisk trail
ivory perch
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I just had a wonderful idea in the shower

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A Theseus talking plushie

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You fiend

chrome wharf
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also a dad helmet
darkness

lean timber
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darkness.

spare tartan
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I just had the greatest run ever

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My main attack did like 700 damage

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With the power volley

lament lake
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I was a Cerebus dog toy haha

last mantle
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I just found this server and wanted to say hello all, and a massive thank you to all the amazing folks at Supergiant! I bought Hades on a whim a few months ago and it very quickly became one of my favorite games, period. The music, the artstyle, the characters, the humor, the voice acting, the story (I love Greek mythology as is so i may be biased, but the sheer amount of detail is astounding) the gameplay, the brutal yet satisfying challenge, everything is just so damn good. I know im rambling and gushing but i hope that my inability to contain myself is understandable.

tl:dr, Hades gud, ty supergiant

prisma gorge
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Gotta ask: has this game ruined other roguelikes for anyone else too? I haven't been able to find something as fluid/fun as Hades, and everytime I open up a new roguelike to test it out, it's always "huh, it's not as good as Hades, I'll stop". Please, if anyone knows a good roguelike besides Hades, I'm taking recommendations.

dry acorn
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have a nice death is in early access but it's pretty decent

spare tartan
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Does hades give a keepsake

rustic vale
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Eventually

spare tartan
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Wdym

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How much nectar

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Cuz it doesnt let me give him any

rustic vale
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2? I think

spare tartan
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How do i give it to him after the first one

rustic vale
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Just need to compelete more dialogue

spare tartan
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Mannnn

rustic vale
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I think

spare tartan
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I hate reading

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Looks like im gonna be mashing the a button

rustic vale
spare tartan
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Lmao

latent moon
spare tartan
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I still cant

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I already did a run after getting the credits and the option still isnt there

rustic vale
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Bumbytire mashing a through the credits

spare tartan
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It doesnt work lmao

latent moon
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you can't offer him nectar at all?

spare tartan
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Nope

latent moon
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It is obtained by giving Hades two gifts of Nectar in the House of Hades (NOTE: 10 clears are required for the second Nectar gift).

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from the wiki^

spare tartan
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Wth

latent moon
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did you try giving him one before you reached the credits?

spare tartan
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Yea

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I try every time i open the game

snow skiff
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I think you need to trigger some dialogue event

latent moon
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that's weird

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how many times past the 10th clear have you tried?

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because maybe if he's busy talking with someone else you can't give it to him

latent moon
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do a few more and try each time, he might've been busy with someone or something so you couldn't try

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tbh a lot of issues in the game of "i can't get x from y" can be solved by "do more runs"

spare tartan
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Bet

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I need to get morr boons for the prophecies anyways

snow skiff
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the last duos i need for the prophecy are freezing vortex and blizzard shot

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not thrilled to say the least

latent moon
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i heard blizzard shot is pretty decent with talos if you want to give that a try

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shoot the cast and pull enemies into it

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freezing vortex, idk just get a weapon you're most comfortable with and get it with that

snow skiff
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cheese it with me and dem call troII

spare tartan
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How rare are legendary boons

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Ive only gotten 1 in my 38 runs

latent moon
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i mean obv they're pretty rare but there's a decent chance you're not seeing them often because you aren't taking the tier 2 boons that'll lead to a legendary boon

snow skiff
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they aren't super rare

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if you take their requirements and try to get them youll probably get them

spare tartan
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I didnt knkw there was requirements

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I got a zeus legendary and thought i got cuz i had a ton of zeus boons

latent moon
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i mean if you take enough of a god's boon you'll eventually get the legendary lol

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you can look at the reqs in the codex

lean timber
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i feel like legendaries are definitely rarer than duos tbh in terms of realistic gameplay lol

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then again, i don't chase legendaries very often

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on that note, i think huge catch should be pommable

rustic vale
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Huge catch should be multiplicative with global damage

snow skiff
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i mean personally if i try to get a legendary its very likely i'll actually get it

warm nimbus
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bruh this is the third time in the past like hour that ive gotten a 3:30 aspho leave into a 6:00 ely leave

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what is this game bouldy

lean timber
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you're in gamer mode

warm nimbus
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no, 6:00 ely leave from a 3:30 aspho leave is really bad

patent mesa
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yeah I like having 1:30 for styx

warm nimbus
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same

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well i can do with 1:10 if i have clockets

patent mesa
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still eris abuse?

warm nimbus
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yeah

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im no stinky beo user

patent mesa
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where sub 6

warm nimbus
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thats a minute away bouldy

patent mesa
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I expect sub 6 by tomorrow

warm nimbus
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hmm

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tbh i think i can get like 6:3x if i actually get clockets + free rooms in ely

latent moon
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what's a good ely leave time?

warm nimbus
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for a 3:30 aspho leave? a 5:20 ely leave is reasonable

latent moon
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rip i need to learn room layouts better

warm nimbus
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a big part of speedrunning on all aspects is learning how to group enemies well so you can kill a large number of enemies at the same time

latent moon
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makes sense

warm nimbus
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i still dont know optimal pathing for rooms tbh

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i should learn it but im too lazy

lean timber
spare tartan
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Whoever told me to do another run for hades keepsake was right

latent moon
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Lmao when in doubt do another run

warm nimbus
void vigil
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pins them to your screen so you can show off your build in a screenshot

lost ermine
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where is my sub 9 :wmicsad:

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oh right i've been grinding heat

lean timber
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when 30 second run

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rta

lost ermine
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my pb is .97 seconds

safe tinsel
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mine is 45 mins oof

tall holly
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30-ish with beo because beo best shield

latent moon
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Only 8:4something with beo lol

tall holly
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no surprise from you

signal aspen
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6:43 on beowulf the shield

warm nimbus
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6:52 on eris the rail

safe tinsel
raw herald
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What if I lied

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It’s 5:57 on beowulf the shield

short glen
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Alright everyone: least favorite weapon

raw herald
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Chiron

short glen
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I was thinking more weapon overall, but fair enough

signal aspen
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Fists

short glen
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For me personally, my least favorite is rail

lean timber
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mine is probably spear

latent moon
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same i dont like the spear

lean timber
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i think my record is 18m but i don't much try for speed

raw herald
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I don’t like sword much

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Hmm I probably prefer it to fists

ivory perch
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I like the nemesis and arthur

short glen
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There is not a single aspect I like for either rail or spear, but spear is less annoying. There's a single bow aspect I like, shield is alright, and I enjoy fists and sword

signal aspen
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Why don't you like rail

latent moon
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i only play like 1 aspect for each weapon basically lmao

signal aspen
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It's a gun

latent moon
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i dont think they're american

short glen
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I find it stressful and unpleasant to use

short glen
signal aspen
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How's it stressful thanthink

latent moon
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dang there goes that point

latent moon
ivory perch
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somehow I prefer aspect of hades over achilies for spear

short glen
signal aspen
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Understandable

ivory perch
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there are some magical hammer thinge for railgun

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it makes u the boss

signal aspen
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Hmm

ivory perch
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such as 5 special

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or huge missile

lean timber
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i love all the bow aspects

ivory perch
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I feel like I am the boss

lean timber
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they go so hard

signal aspen
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Chiron sucks

ivory perch
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how

lean timber
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skill issue chiron is awesome

signal aspen
#

Aight mb

ivory perch
#

chiron with hammer is op

latent moon
#

chiron sucks at high heat but at a more casual level of heat i think it's pretty decent

lean timber
#

chiron sucks balls in styx

latent moon
#

just get tdash

ivory perch
#

what do u guys think of rama

lean timber
#

love rama

signal aspen
#

Best bow aspect

latent moon
#

rama is amazing as long as you get twin shot lmao

lean timber
#

twin shot power shot ggs wp

ivory perch
signal aspen
#

There's a reason rama holds all the rama world records

lean timber
#

TRUE!!

ivory perch
#

so for bow player its either chiron or rama

lean timber
#

hera's great too

#

hera is probably the most "viable" for heat

signal aspen
#

All of the bow aspects are good

signal aspen
lean timber
#

really? i'm surprised

signal aspen
#

Hera kinda sucks at 32+

ivory perch
#

I dont like hera much

latent moon
#

i think hera falls off once dc comes into play

lean timber
#

oh yeah of course.

#

i hate dc.

signal aspen
#

For Hera you just shoot your casts at the enemy and then wait 5 seconds

#

Not good for heat

lean timber
#

that's true

latent moon
#

there's probably other factors but dc limits a lot of weapon viability for high heat in general

lean timber
#

see thinking is not my strong suit

latent moon
#

oh yeah i forgot time is an issue lol

#

js hurts hera a lot too

signal aspen
#

Hera is very good at speeds tho

#

Right croven?

left jay
#

does supergiant games get a portion of the profit if i bought the plushie from fangamer

high island
lean timber
#

ok

steep bobcat
#

damnit

#

i was gonna buy the art prints and the shirt

#

and ofc they sold out already

#

;-;

latent moon
#

lmao it do be like that

patent mesa
steep bobcat
#

hopefully they'll restock soon

#

really wanna get them

random loom
#

I really love the aspect of chaos on the shield

#

I got it fully upgraded and I'm loving it

patent mesa
#

easily the most broken aspect by far

#

needs immediate nerf

signal aspen
#

so true

hearty bramble
#

guys guys. what if. There was a Hades panel at a con or something, and the VAs acted out a little skit in-character shadeohboy

patent mesa
#

that skit should be zag with RD ichor spammed clockets instaphasing dad

lean timber
#

[nukes the convention hall]

warm nimbus
#

i am willing to say that chiron handles js the worst out of any aspect (if you arent playing it as bad zag bow)

ivory perch
#

I love chainshot and relentless volley with chiron

patent mesa
#

gamer

lean timber
#

i hate chainshot on chiron because it changes where the reticle goes and it makes me do things i wasn't planning on

lean timber
#

i will say my merciful end chiron experiments were funny as heckaroni tho

ivory perch
lean timber
#

nouuu

ivory perch
#

u can add more randomness matching artemis and chiron

#

random crit

#

random mark

lean timber
#

nah the chiron build is aphrodite attack + artemis special for heart rend on the crits

#
  • chaos buff on special
mint coral
#

Have you ever seen the eris routed speedrun?

#

Is basically that

latent moon
#

it's honestly such a shame there's an internal cooldown for it

mint coral
#

Just mod the cooldown out

latent moon
#

lmao is there a mod for that

mint coral
#

Idk, can ask the modding server if its too hard to make

latent moon
#

bro what lmfao

mint coral
#

Ah yeah sbeve

gray apex
#

Could be easy if it's just editing some numbers in an lua file

#

If it's not then cry

warm nimbus
#

that plus high voltage would give the aspect aoe

lean timber
#

if (internalcooldown)
{ no(); }

warm nimbus
#

the way to do it supergiant sttle would be to leave the original cooldown code unrouched and then reverse it a few lines later

latent moon
warm nimbus
#

nah storm lightning wouldnt work on it

#

because its not chain lightning

#

its a lightning bolt

dusty shoal
#

Joined just so I could say, It'd be really cool if Supergiant added Thanatos' Scythe or Meg's Whip as dlc weapons. 🙂

latent moon
#

it would be pretty cool, but they're not adding dlcs to hades unfortunately

lean timber
#

unlikely anyway

#

technically didn't hear a no

latent moon
#

true

lean timber
#

[pot stirring intensifies]

latent moon
#

but it's gotta be like an extremely good idea that would add on story not just "here's this have fun" probably

#

and that type of energy might be better worth spending on a new game they're working on, especially since it's a relatively small team

dusty shoal
#

Haha. well maybe one day they'll do a special edition with more Gods, Bosses, Weapons, maybe even meet the Fates. If they wanted to add more story they could have ||Zag look for a way to exist on the surface or something.||

mint coral
#

he doesnt really have a reason to chill on the surface now tbh

vale whale
#

what about ||persephone’s garden 🥺||

mint coral
#

he still can check it sometimes (at least if the post credits deaths are smth to tell about lol)

rustic vale
#

Zag will never be able to travel to mount olympus and party with dionysus shadegrief

mint coral
#

just deal with dad so you can invite them all in again

dusty shoal
#

I wish you could add stuff to the ||Garden|| in the underworld. Besides the || Statue || you get.

brisk trail
#

Can I stream/record hades

rustic vale
#

Yes?

signal aspen
#

Idk can you

rustic vale
#

I see hades streams and recordings all the time so I figure that it’s ok

signal aspen
#

I uploaded some of my hades runs to yt and amir personally came to my house and pinched my cheek

chrome wharf
#

Did he say anything else

signal aspen
#

He was completely silent

#

There was no emotion on his face

runic meadow
#

how does Cold Fusion work? does that mean they get jolt damage with every attack?

snow skiff
#

yeah until it times out

rustic vale
#

Think so

#

Unless it’s also subjected to the zeus boon internal cooldown curse

snow skiff
#

is dash at cursor even that terrible of an option for sword

#

i feel like i'm constantly missing my mark because i'm dashing slightly to the left of something

rustic vale
#

No clue

#

Am console player

signal aspen
#

Dash at cursor is pretty much always bad

lean timber
#

fo2

rustic vale
#

Fo2 💪💪

warm nimbus
patent mesa
#

wtf is that chaos

warm nimbus
#

ik, so blessed

#

but also lvl 5 lightning strike is kinda bouldy

patent mesa
#

too bad no arty special

warm nimbus
#

yeah im hoping to see it in aspho

latent moon
#

bruh lmfao

latent moon
#

homie's zoomin

rustic vale
#

zoomin

#

so where's the heroic rd to go along with it

warm nimbus
#

yeah i rerolled twice for rd and got epic greater haste instead

latent moon
#

styx shop hermes and demeter, get rare crop

#

ez

warm nimbus
#

yoo i got another ichor in ely end well

signal aspen
#

Eris route at home

warm nimbus
#

bad or good

signal aspen
#

Bad

latent moon
#

pray for hermes now lmao

warm nimbus
#

oh

#

well yeah im bad at the tartarus

#

most of my good tart leave paces are like 1:50

latent moon
#

you didn't get a sub 30 tart smh

#

is that even possible

signal aspen
#

Not a true Speedrunner yet

#

We spend 90% of runs in tart

signal aspen
latent moon
#

very cool

signal aspen
#

Only sub1 routed

#

And like 1:06 unseeded

spare tartan
#

Does having an unbreakable bond with a character do anything

signal aspen
#

No

warm nimbus
latent moon
#

you get a cool chibi art thingy

warm nimbus
#

i reset in tart to get a 1:50 tart leave, i then get a 3:30 aspho leave and then a 6:00 ely leave

#

thats how my runs have been going for the past day pretty much

signal aspen
#

Nice

rustic vale
#

getting the cool chibi art thing is the only real reason to play the game

latent moon
#

and once you get them you just keep playing because it's fun

warm nimbus
#

no this is the least fun game ever i hate it

#

highly recommend playing

warm nimbus
#

lmao

#

yo i can get somethign for the list

latent moon
#

yo that's pretty good

signal aspen
#

Take frozen touch

#

Can get an insane time skip with that

warm nimbus
#

good idea

warm nimbus
#

lol 5:30 ely leave with an awful build

#

i never got offered +dashes or hs from hermes lol

lean timber
#

cold fusion is a nice flex for casual play at best

#

i can't imagine it being super helpful at heat remembers fo2 never mind it might be good to have

raw acorn
#

Hi
So guys I just reached the true end made a few escape attempts after
Upgraded the my rank in hades chamber to one cost me 3k darkness and 1 titan blood
Still have some achievements not done yet
Gifted all characters in game ...
So is there anything worth playing more? I'll sure keep playing it but maybe after a break playing another game

raw acorn
latent moon
latent moon
#

might be more i'm missing

raw acorn
latent moon
#

wdym

#

hear ding, pull up the fish as fast as possible

lean timber
#

the bobber will dip and there will be a flash of light. pull it up then

raw acorn
latent moon
#

steam achievement is the 2nd statue, 3rd statue has none but it looks nice

#

you get companions by giving ambrosia to a certain 5 people

raw acorn
raw acorn
latent moon
#

pretty sure it's 5 but nice

#

there's also maxing out all aspects if you want lmao

raw acorn
latent moon
#

oh there's a ton

#

in total it costs like 300k darkness

#

so dont expect to be completing that any time soon

raw acorn
# latent moon pretty sure it's 5 but nice

I have enough titan blood to max them maybe but for me I'm not having any benefits from most of the upgrades cuz i don't use the skills they upgrade if u understand what I mean

#

😂

raw acorn
warm nimbus
raw acorn
lean timber
latent moon
patent mesa
#

and anything that destroys asterius is good because asterius sucks

raw acorn
latent moon
#

for each weapon, not including zag aspects, it costs roughly 15 for each (give or take 1) so that's 50 each (including zag aspects)

#

so like 300 titan blood or so lmao

raw acorn
latent moon
#

well yeah they do

#

but they cost a bunch each

#

like getting the hidden aspects +1 is 3 titan blood each

raw acorn
#

Ah now I get it

latent moon
#

you can get 3 titan blood each run if you trade the ambrosia, every 2 diamonds is an ambrosia as well

#

so in like 100 completed bounty runs you can max all weapons or something lmao

raw acorn
#

Not interested still 😂
U know some upgrades about cast or something like maim things I don't use

latent moon
#

the cast based weapons in this game are really good lmao

patent mesa
#

eh

#

beo sucks and hera is just worse beo

latent moon
#

says the person who's done 50 heat on beo

patent mesa
#

that was a joke but unironically beo 50 isn't really the easiest

latent moon
#

yeah ik lmao

patent mesa
#

because 50 is "comfy" with RI and AP but beo hates both

#

and if you don't know EM4 that heat is hard to make up

latent moon
#

fair

patent mesa
#

also EM4 is hard even if you know it because non cshot is preferable

#

and non cshot beo can be a pain since you lose time everywhere

lean timber
brazen cedar
brisk trail
#

Spoiler warning

#

Does Charon get new moves or anything that makes him harder if I fight him in Elysium vs Tartarus?

rustic vale
#

Don’t think so

#

Just checked the hades wiki and it says nothing changes

brisk trail
#

I just challenged him in Tartarus with nothing but a Artemis boon on my Achilles spear excepting him to kill my run cause I had to leave and I ended up beating him

rustic vale
#

he’s same difficulty in any biome

#

Uh

#

Bad wording

#

He has the same strength across the all biomed

#

The only difference is how much stuff you have

#

fighting charon in tartarus is harder because you’ll have less boons and hammer but more rewarding because you’ll have the loyalty card for the entirety of your run

#

Fghting charon in elysium will be easier due to you having more boons/hammers but you get less value from the loyalty card since you have it for less time

brisk trail
#

Oooooo the card is temporary gilmanrage

#

Good to know

rustic vale
#

The card lasts the whole run

sleek kite
#

Having it earlier lets u get more value out of it.

rustic vale
#

but since you’ll have it for more shops if you get it earlier you get more value from it

#

rather then picking it up later and only having it for the last few shops before hades (which is still good, don’t get me wrong)

#

Anyways that was a side tangent

#

He’s the same in every area the only thing that changes is what you have when you fight him

rustic vale
#

Is common hyper sprint good enough for rush delivery dash striking?

latent moon
#

yes

#

.5 sec is still a good chunk of time

gray apex
#

Hyper Sprint Rarity doesnt matter

latent moon
#

i mean if you reroll for rare it'll just be .6 which is marginally better

rustic vale
#

Should I be trying to powershot? It seems like hyper sprint is wearing off before I can powershot

gray apex
#

Dash after you powershot

rustic vale
#

oh

#

4000iq

warm nimbus
#

yeah you chain dash strikes together

rustic vale
#

If I pick up flurry shot I should just dash dash and hold my attack button

#

Right

hollow path
#

does artemis' hunter dash affect shattered shackle?

rustic vale
#

No

#

shackle is only attack, special, and cast

hollow path
#

so the bonus applies?

rustic vale
#

Yes

#

On your dash strikes you’ll be doing +100% and your hunter dash bonus

#

Which weapon are you using?

hollow path
#

aspect of arthur

#

i wonder if i should go for the 145% backstab or 70% damage from chaos

raw herald
#

Ik this is 3 hrs later but I’d take 70% damage if it’s attack damage

#

If it’s dash strike I’d maybe not

trail citrus
#

yo

#

Only need to beat hades witht he aspect of guan yu and I'm done with the aspect dialogue for the spear. Which builds could you peop advise me to use to unlock the rest of the spear's bounties?

trail citrus
#

I gotta copy that somewhe4re. I wasn't saying only the aspect of guan yu. I'm just ooking for the fastest aspect and build to aim for to unlock the rest of the bounties. I'm doing aspect of guan yu because of the unique lines XD

#

I don't know who you are, but I give you the highest award I can bestow: saving this text for future use and a green heart

high island
feral belfry
#

She holds many great pieces of knowledge

trail citrus
#

just died against hades when on his last few hits.

#

GUess I gott get good, I suppose

trail citrus
#

Non-optimal build, but it was a fun one. With aspect of guan yu, athena strike and quick charge, just throw and forget

#

plewase, qwuick: massive or quick spin as guan yu?

trail citrus
mint coral
#

Makes spin safe to use mid combat

trail citrus
#

ty

#

athena on strike. Suggestion for combo?

outer nova
#

Umm, can I ask for help here?

latent moon
#

Yeah

outer nova
#

Awesome!

#

So

trail citrus
#

I'd like some ideas for a combo of using athena strike on Guan Yu, if somebody may. I get that it isn't optimal, but I wanna do it just for fun XD

outer nova
#

I kind of have a serious issue after turning off God Mode... I beat the game, at around 45-50 attempts, and I decided to give myself more of a challenge by turning god mode off. The thing is,I don't think I'm fighting easy enemies like you do the first time you play the game. I think they're throwing much tougher and armored enemies into early levels. When you players turned off god mode, did this also seem this way to you?? Or is it maybe just in my head? Bc I really don't think so. I might even start a new game to see if I'm right.

#

Sorry, it's a bit long. But I'm just worried that I maybe actually suck at Hades!

#

Or I'm right, and they do put tougher enemies at beginning stages after you've done enough runs/beaten the game

#

Kind of like Devil May Cry

mint coral
#

Reaching the surface adds the wringers (grabby hands) and sneak mini boss to tart but outside of that not really

#

Unless you are using the pact of punishment, so for example the enemies do more dmg feels more punishing

#

Or where benefits package makes armored enemies show up earlier (which is true for god mode and without it)

#

God mode is only the dmg resistance that showns

outer nova
#

Ok, that sums it up quite nicely. Thank you so much for the insightful answer.

#

I guess I'll keep my god mode turned off. I may suck (for now), but I'll keep playing and practicing.

mint coral
#

Ah to be specific a bit more

Some things do change the more runs you do (like the other 2 furies showing up, different colors on the hydra heat, heroes gaining new moves after a certain event)

#

But once again, is not cuz you turned off god mode, it will be the same

outer nova
#

After playing Dark Souls, Sekiro, DMC5 Dante Must Die, and many other games on their highest difficulty, I have no idea what made me turn God Mode on, lol

mint coral
#

Game still hard/want to enjoy the story

outer nova
#

Ok, even more valuable information.

mint coral
#

On a bit of tips, your dashes have full iframes, but dash striking removes them

outer nova
#

Haha, yeah, that's what it was! I wanted to enjoy the story, beat the game, and then turn it off!

#

I remember now

#

LOL

patent mesa
mint coral
#

Massive is for the funny

patent mesa
#

taking massive spin with guan yu is kinda a cope pick for me

outer nova
patent mesa
#

just like that guan yu exclusive hammer

spare tartan
#

Whats the best keepsake

#

I mainly use persephones

patent mesa
high island
trail citrus
high island
#

Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat, pretty much. So assuming you take Divine Strike, you'll want a good Special boon. Deadly Flourish would be great for damage and to get their Duo Boon.

#

The go-to build in Guan Yu speedruns is Curse of Agony + Divine Flourish to get Merciful End and then also get Divine Dash.

#

That'll get you the best DPS on Guan Yu.

#

So that's a strong option if you want to use Lady Athena in your build.

trail citrus
vestal plank
#

I just mash together strings of stuff and have fun

#

Up to hear 10. Trying to diversify more away from the swords hidden aspect

#

Since it's a bit heavier and slower

And higher heats tend to get busy

high island
#

But you're right it falls off at high heat.

#

If you avoid taking Forced Overtime and Damage Control, you should have a relatively easy time.

brisk trail
#

can confirm 32 is pretty easy with arthur

#

even 40 was

#

I wouldn't go higher than that tho

viscid snow
#

Would anyone know why after I killed Extreme Measures Theseus and have seen Poseidon a couple of times why I am not getting the prophecy fulfilled?

latent moon
#

i think dialogue/story stuff only pop up the first time you meet the god, and at that point it's also still rng

trail citrus
#

I'll leave the button mashing andd extra optimizing for when I start uwing mods

trail citrus
latent moon
#

well they said they're not getting the prophecy fulfilled so i'm assuming they already had the prophecy

willow mural
#

When you purposely anger a god and get their god gauge up to full, only to get back to your fated list and realize that's a Steam achievo and not something that does anything when you play on the Switch

lean timber
#

the other fated list

high island
candid laurel
#

what keepsakes are "standard" im achievement hunting

high island
#

God 1 > God 2 > Acorn/Bone Hourglass > Acorn

runic meadow
high island
#

Since runs are pretty quick, you can just do a quick run or two whenever you feel like playing some Hades.

viscid snow
#

How often if ever would you take any other room over a Eurydice/Sisyphus/Patroclus room?

latent moon
#

i might take chaos over sisyphus but i'd dont think i'd skip any of the other ones over chaos

lone kernel
lean timber
#

i almost always take euridyce, sisyphus is pretty good but i skip patroclus a lot

#

(because i don't need it)

#

(because i don't run heat)

latent moon
#

true at low heat patty can be pretty unimportant if your build doesn't rely on atk and you have full DD's and hp

#

thing is with eurydice tho nearly every time i take her, the next room is generally a miniboss room for whatever god's keepsake i have equipped so it's a free rarity upgrade

lean timber
#

well aren't you lucky

lone kernel
#

But I’ve skipped him for a trial before lol

#

Just cause I had a Chad build and wanted to destroy more stuff

chrome wharf
#

also edge cases where extra damage from Earring helps against TD timeout

latent moon
#

oh dang i never considered earring helping with that

#

very niche use

chrome wharf
#

Angel streams has educated me on the marvels of Earring Ely even if you take pat

#

Suddenly TD comfy, just don't die to EM3

latent moon
#

is it a global damage boost?

signal aspen
#

Ye

latent moon
#

dang

#

earring with sd kinda sounds not bad then

signal aspen
#

It's pretty good at beeg heats

lone kernel
daring lantern
#

bro

#

hades extreme measures has a third phase💀

latent moon
#

fun stuff

lone kernel
daring lantern
#

i died the moment it happened

#

i was blind and then boom i got impaled

lone kernel
#

welcome to em4

#

where you’re gonna lose but try not to

chrome wharf
lone kernel
trail citrus
#

ight, unlocking spear bounties now

#

what may be the most consistent buil, pls?

latent moon
trail citrus
#

ty

latent moon
#

i believe lightning phalanx is also good with achilles spear

trail citrus
#

got wrecke with an achiles meme beam T.T

#

artemis was stingy

latent moon
#

lmao rip

trail citrus
latent moon
#

athena zeus duo

#

athena cast bounces between enemies

trail citrus
#

That's why I was asking for cosnsistent ones, that on't require a secific combination or hammer upgrae

latent moon
#

it'll clear rooms pretty fast but probably struggle more against bosses

#

none of what i said had anything to do with hammers

#

obv hammers improves the build like flurry jab for achilles and charged skewer for guan yu but not completely necessary

mint coral
#

spear doesnt really go with consistent bouldy

#

hammer needy af

#

or if you go a cast related build and no duo

trail citrus
#

T.T

latent moon
#

true lmao

trail citrus
#

In short: ba rng, no final boss fight

#

-_-

hollow path
#

what is guan yu special spam? i'm almost 16 heat and with spear and i still haven't really built around guan yu's special

patent mesa
#

you pray for charged skewer, put beefy +% on it, and spam it for long ranged area damage

latent moon
#

the main gimmick of guan yu, the health steal part, isn't exactly bad, it's just the fact that the spin takes too long to charge for it to be good

#

so you essentially play guan yu like a weird hestia, dashing and using 1 button to deal damage

viscid snow
#

Just got to the Epilogue shadesmile

#

Only a few more achievements for a 100%.

mellow slate
#

do you have to wear myrmidon bracer every time you talk to patroclus to initiate convo about achilles or no?

mellow slate
#

guess i'm getting unlucky then

daring lantern
signal aspen
#

extreme measures 4

hollow path
#

i got used to hard labor max then my friend saw it he was like surprised? is it that hard?

brisk trail
#

For some people yeah. I personally dont find it too hard but I rarely activate it bcs it's kinda annoying. It's just me tho ehe

latent moon
#

i mean ofc it's more punishing when you get hit, but there are easier pacts to take that dont require max hard labor

#

but at the same time just dont get hit lmao

#

if you need a bit of extra heat to fill up a bounty then HL isn't a bad fill up option

#

it's probably the best one that only costs 1 heat

hollow path
#

my dead ass thought it was one of the easier pacts lmao

#

i always have it on 100% which is 5 heat

hearty bramble
chrome wharf
#

Lernie bops doing 32 per hit can easily be 1 SD down

latent moon
hearty bramble
latent moon
#

ngl i dont remember where i read that from

#

but i do remember the "small team, not likely" bit

hearty bramble
#

Sometimes I compare official merch to like fanmade merch and I'm like, people put together really nice looking fanzines with small teams... I guess it's because SGG always holds themselves to a really high standard

raw nimbus
#

if I get stubborn defiance at the mirror, can I later upgrade it to have 2 charges/room? Also, if I use skelly's tooth, can I have 2 stubborn defiances/room, or will it add a regular death defiance?

#

I for the love of god can't manage to kill the boss in elysium, no matter how good the run

rustic vale
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Skelly tooth works like a regular death defiance where it goes away upon usage iirc

raw nimbus
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so ig it's better to have 3/run than 1/chamber

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also any good boons besides cerberus collar, zeus signet or skelly's tooth? And if so, from who?

rustic vale
rustic vale
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It depends on the weapon

raw nimbus
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oh yeah keepsakes, not boons. Mb

rustic vale
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Because different gods work better on different weapons

raw nimbus
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I found that zeus works really well on the spear

rustic vale
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But unless you are a certain psychopath you’re gonna want to start a run with the keepsake of the god who’s attack/special/cast/dash you want to start with

raw nimbus
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any tips for the damned elysium boss then?

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closest I got was getting the bull of minos to a quarter hp

rustic vale
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Hmm

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It’s been so long since I haven’t played with em3 I can’t remember

patent mesa
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stay by pillars since they block theseus potshots and asterius charge

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take down asterius first obviously

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when he does his leap attack it's safe to dash into him to dodge it

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also if you just wanna cheese the fight, shield breaks it since you can block every attack in the boss encounter

raw nimbus
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I'm also not too sure how to use the titan's blood. A friend told me I can upgrade my weapons with it, but dunno how to unlock that

patent mesa
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unlock all weapons first

raw nimbus
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does it block when charging the regular attack into a dash?

patent mesa
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not sure what you mean

raw nimbus
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like

patent mesa
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any time you're charging bull rush the block is in effect

rustic vale
raw nimbus
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no I meant the shield

rustic vale
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The bullrush

raw nimbus
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you can charge it's basic attack into a sort of 'dash'

rustic vale
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When you hold attack on the shield

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It charges your bullrush

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and blocks attacks that hit the shield

raw nimbus
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and that blocks when holding it?

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aa

patent mesa
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so the way to cheese fights with the shield is attack and hold to block while pointing it towards any enemy that's attacking you

rustic vale
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Don’t call it a dash since that’s a different thing already existing in the game and bullrush is the actual term for it

patent mesa
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the moment they're done just release to bull rush and do some damage, then immediately put shield back up

patent mesa
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you're effectively invincible while doing this

raw nimbus
patent mesa
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both as long as you're pointing it the right way

raw nimbus
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oh wow

patent mesa
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and the angle is very generous

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so yeah just block while asterius does his thing and when he's done bull rush him

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nice and simple

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remember that you're completely invincible from all angles while bull rushing

lean timber
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except from directly behind yourself

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if you get hit in the back it's an instadeath

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it's to balance the shield

raw hatch
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If you could add any weapon to hades what would you add

lean timber
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a nuke

patent mesa
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fighter jet

raw nimbus
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well, tried the shield

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still got owned by them

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this is beyond stupid

lean timber
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did you use an aspect

raw nimbus
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a what?

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I don't have that unlocked I don't think

lean timber
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most of the shield aspects are great

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they make runs easier once you learn to use them

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when you find them your success rates will improve

raw nimbus
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who the hell even created that boss

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it's beyond unbalanced lmao

mint coral
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which boss, champions of ely?

raw nimbus
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yeah

mint coral
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what part is giving you trouble?

raw nimbus
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everything

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too tanky, too much damage, too hard to dodge

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having 4 titan's blood and not being able to use it

mint coral
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on your last run what boons you had? i know you used the shield

raw nimbus
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oh that's not the last run by now

signal aspen
raw nimbus
mint coral
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last run you mentioned dying to heroes

signal aspen
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a way to use titan blood should be unlocked by now

raw nimbus
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I die to them every run

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can even do each of the sisters no-hit by now

raw nimbus
lean timber
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should be the run after you unlock them all

mint coral
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are you in a run rn?

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after unlocking the last weapon i mean

raw nimbus
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nah, just died again

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you can guess to who

mint coral
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then check your equipped weapon in the backyard now

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should be unlocked

void vigil
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try to interact with your selected weapon again

raw nimbus
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nope, nothing's happening

void vigil
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if you have all weapons unlocked that is

signal aspen
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do one more run and then it should unlock

raw nimbus
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I'm sick of this boss ngl

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I'll just take a break since I'm dangerously close to doing something I might regret

mint coral
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do you know about dashes giving iframes? and dash striking removing those

void vigil
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im sure people here can give you tips on how to beat them more easily, or how to get a more powerful build. i believe you can do it, but taking a break when youre frustrated is good

mint coral
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during a dash you are full invulnerable

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but using a dash strike removes that

raw nimbus
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is the gun a good weapon btw?

mint coral
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for specific attacks
spear throw: keep attention to the mark that starts getting brighter, means theseus is about to throw it, can hide behind a pillar

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also yeah the rail is good

void vigil
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5 runs to get to the heroes is really good time

mint coral
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what keepsakes you normally take into elysium btw?

raw nimbus
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skelly's tooth

mint coral
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do you have eurydice keepsake?

raw nimbus
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no

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I have one nectar, though

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wanted to give it to thanatos but since that one time I haven't seen him since

mint coral
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try to get it at some point, it blocks the next 3/4/5 hits from the boss of that area

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at max is normally most than the 100 hp from tooth (unless you also use it in normal combat during ely)

raw nimbus
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I still dunno whether I should get death defiance lvl 2 or unlock stubborn defiance

mint coral
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def 2nd lvl

warm nimbus
signal aspen
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death defiance is a lot better for boss fights