#off-topic-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 183

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:24 AM

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ffs

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it just odd really

vivid ridge Feb 17, 2020, 6:24 AM

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When Johnny gets his stand in part 7 all it did was let him detach and regrow his fingernails

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:24 AM

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fingernail machine gun

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Part 6 was also spoiled to me

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So uh like I know the ending

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But I have no idea how it plays out fully.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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the pucci's buildup is awesome

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thats why you cant exactly skip it like part 3's ending

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which is literal meme itself

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and still understandable even for people who doesnt watch the 34 same battles before it

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part 4's story is done really well tbh

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Man I feel like part 3 just went on for long, if it was cut much proper than the old movie I think it would have been way better, leaving out the highlight stuff.
And I agree with part 4, a thriller murder mystery, where you know who done it, but not the characters.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:28 AM

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tbh its just the crusaders rampaging from pakistan to eygpt

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and i really hate the fact that they dropped the color namesake with the stand name

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i think right after temperance yellow and thats it

vivid ridge Feb 17, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Yeah half the tarot boy fights before the egyptian gods could been cut

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:30 AM

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tbh so does the eygptian gods lol

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god osiris is terrible

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but again if you cut that much you wouldnt have a lot of stands, consider thats leaving only 9 enemies left

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with the 9 god

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i think part 3 on its own is fun, its just long winded compared to future part as the future parts has better story due to araki grown as a storyteller

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Keep hol horse, the hanged man, oingo bongo brothers, Darby brothers, Empress and Vanilla Ice Cream.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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with less stands but still makes an interesting story and each have their own arc

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you cant cut enya

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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You got the most major encounters.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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the hyuck

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she is important character

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Oh right

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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and hanged man

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vanilla i wish its gone

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it literally killed guys whose story so far only meant to get hurt

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like avdol and iggy

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sure i guess they beat one or two people and thats about it, iggy with 1

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and its not even related to crusader's main line story

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and kakyoin, god hes just sad

vivid ridge Feb 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Weird that the filler-ey fights have the most funny meme moments around them

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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doesnt even have a good defeat of enemy, death 13 arc is terrible

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i mean

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Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

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also lovers is also the longest ora i might add

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:35 AM

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"Baby Stand"

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:35 AM

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if he were alive in part 3 at least we can see him in part 4 and he would play a much more important role

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as none of the part 4 stand is long ranged

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echo was going to be that but act 3 becomes a fighting ghost, again

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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I really prefer act 2 over act 3

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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if act 3 pretains the act 2 power it would be great

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act 1 is just a meme

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Act 1 is like "wanna hear the SOUNDS"

vivid ridge Feb 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I completely forgot what act 1 did

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It was just a weird sound maker right

tardy ore Feb 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I know nothing about Jojo other than memes.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@sudden torrent act 1 more like YA LIKE JAZZ

sudden torrent Feb 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Act 1 was basically: "put this on someone/something it will make a sound, that can annoy or translate the words" I think.

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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it just basically is the equivalent of trumpet boy meme

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also star platinum

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but is purple

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star platinum: am i a joke to you

vivid ridge Feb 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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JoJo can be any color you want

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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yes

slate acorn Feb 17, 2020, 8:57 AM

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I am so happy right now. I finally beat The Radiance in Hollow Knight. 45 hours of gameplay.

vocal brook Feb 17, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Nice!

hexed hollow Feb 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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noice

autumn pasture Feb 17, 2020, 11:58 AM

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congratulations!

tardy ore Feb 17, 2020, 4:22 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369491013791645696/678997258921836575/nrcyzqmv8hh41.png cerberus duck included

autumn pasture Feb 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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cerberus but he's a big duck

dense wren Feb 17, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Oh god

gaunt valley Feb 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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what the duck?

upbeat scroll Feb 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491262380555108366/679068693774336001/gjig88xcuyd41.png

autumn pasture Feb 17, 2020, 9:05 PM

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thank you permit crab

tardy anchor Feb 17, 2020, 9:11 PM

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thank you permit crab

golden nebula Feb 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Is there any way to see what's on a bluray version of a movie and dvd version. I just want to know if there is any extras on one and none on the other?

velvet fjord Feb 17, 2020, 10:50 PM

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usually they'd list on the back of the box?

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assuming you're looking at a physical copy

tender cobalt Feb 18, 2020, 12:14 AM

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The bad thing I did today was eating a big slice of lemon meringue pie 🍋 🥧

north hamlet Feb 18, 2020, 12:14 AM

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mmmm

hexed hollow Feb 18, 2020, 1:00 AM

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that sounds like a good thing though maxyyThink

serene tulip Feb 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I wonder if given enough time and food/drink if I could demolish an entire house using only my (gloved) hands and (booted) feet.

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probably wouldn't be able to do anything about the foundation

brittle finch Feb 18, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Spelling of Orpheus and Eurydice up in Discussion, y'all should go listen to Hadestown if you haven't yet

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It annihilated the Tony's last year when it hot Broadway

somber ferry Feb 18, 2020, 4:40 AM

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hadestown is INCREDIBLE

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if there's any show i wish i could see for the first time again it's absolutely that one

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every part of that show is so lovingly crafted

brittle finch Feb 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I CONDUCT THE ELECTRIC CITY

wild nest Feb 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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persephone's intro... whoo

dense wren Feb 18, 2020, 7:15 AM

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so yeah, 4k screen

faint panther Feb 18, 2020, 7:15 AM

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You can make your icons bigger.

dense wren Feb 18, 2020, 7:15 AM

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still too overkill for now, and not gonna mention whatever 8k and 16k those gimmicks are

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@faint panther and with windows magnifying tool

faint panther Feb 18, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Man, gimmick is the right word.

dense wren Feb 18, 2020, 7:16 AM

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it breaks some of the application

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and you have to resize back to 100% sometimes

faint panther Feb 18, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Yeah, would not use 4k on a desktop.

dense wren Feb 18, 2020, 7:17 AM

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could be nice on a tv but i dont watch tv these days

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not even netflix

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i feel like i dont have a lot of desire in my life compared to others

faint panther Feb 18, 2020, 7:17 AM

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The only thing I could think of is like, a projector or really big TV for party applications.

strange terrace Feb 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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1440p 144Hz is the sweet spot yousee

vivid ridge Feb 18, 2020, 9:07 AM

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i got a 4k monitor

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running not 4k on it makes stuff crusty

tardy ore Feb 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369491013791645696/679265227535024133/FB_IMG_1582018535157.jpg

sudden torrent Feb 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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I

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I am speechless

wide falcon Feb 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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ever heard of Omo?

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turn it upside down

tardy ore Feb 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

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@sudden torrent Hi speechless, I'm dad.

sudden torrent Feb 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

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rtgameGun ron

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Dad jokes

gaunt valley Feb 18, 2020, 6:01 PM

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peak German humour

fringe sparrow Feb 18, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Another Non-Nintendo Direct, Im gonna shot my console

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I need Hollow Knight Silksong release date

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I need xenoblade X

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I dont need Animal Corossing wut

velvet fjord Feb 18, 2020, 11:18 PM

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me caring about animal crossing but not hk or xenoblade

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Actually didn't hear about the animal direct

autumn pasture Feb 18, 2020, 11:24 PM

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yeah, i'm waiting for silksong, but it's not like people don't care about animal crossing

velvet fjord Feb 18, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i just don't care for hollow knight

autumn pasture Feb 18, 2020, 11:27 PM

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valid opinion! i personally love it and it's one of my favorite games, but everyone's allowed to like what they like

gaunt valley Feb 18, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I am waiting for a competitor in the handheld market.

velvet fjord Feb 18, 2020, 11:30 PM

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~~switch lite~~

gaunt valley Feb 18, 2020, 11:33 PM

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No thanks.

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I was considering buying a vita, but I'd be late to that party. Too late in fact.

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Nintendo is basically the Japanese Disney of videogames and I'm not into that.

north hamlet Feb 18, 2020, 11:57 PM

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i'm excited for the pokemon mystery dungeon re-release

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makes me wish i had a switch

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i'm excited for the pokemon mystery dungeon re-release

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makes me wish i had a switch

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:05 AM

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There will be a new Switch coming up this year. Considering the technical issues the current has, you could also consider yourself lucky. Just wait a little and see if the new model is a good fix.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Oh. I bought one like three weeks ago.

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Oh. I bought one like three weeks ago.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:08 AM

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You could still check if they offer you a refund. Some places are quite generous in this regard.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Oh. I bought one like three weeks ago.

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 12:13 AM

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i'm super excited for the pmmd release

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red rescue team was my Childhood, i loved it so much

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Zadok, totally agree with the Disney comparison. Thats why I'm not excited every time they talk about another #9000 part of Mario or Pokémon. But the Switch have plenty of games to play. Including Hollow Knight, Ori, Dead Cells, Warframe, Astral Chain and many more i like.
Of course i need to mention bastion and transistor.

And still wish for Hades to be released on switch too!

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 12:19 AM

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that's true, it does have many indie games

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that being said. i grew up on pokemon lmao

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so maybe the disney comparison is accurate

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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I mean

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The Vita still has a ton of good games

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Its not getting new ones (actually thats a lie it still is, but theyre not good), but there are more than enough good old ones to keep you entertained for many hours

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But yeah, there wont really be any new competitor in the handheld market

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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i wish consoles in general had a longer lifespan

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Sony peaced out, and with mobile gaming as big and lucrative as it is

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Well, not really much of a point

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Main issue is that tech used to move too quickly

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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The Pokémon could maybe pull me in but... For me the Pokémon games which are released on switch are jump for the money without any quality. Reused models, low Quality environment, no voicelines. Hades looks superior to this...

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Youd rather develop a new, much more powerful console than continously supporting an old one

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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i suppose regardless of 'official' shelf life i still got like ten years out of my old gameboy, so........

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i guess if you take good care of it it doesn't matter too much for your older games

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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For real

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I still got a functioning DS and Gameboy Micro around

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Though my 3DS made my DS mostly obsolete

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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i'd love to buy a gameboy and mod it for chiptune music some day

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problem is they're not getting any more common or cheaper

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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What I meant with the Disney comparison:
-they have a colourful family-friendly image that people grew attached to as kids although it is bought by parts through utter backwardness on social issues
-the cute image lets people forget how bad the companies actually are. I don't think I need to discuss Discney in detail here, but Nintendo consistently ranks last in environmental records and is pinkwashing the heck out of their image (because pink dollars are still dollars). also Nintendo's business side is pretty awful. But can you really be mad at Toad?

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I am waiting for a competitor in the handheld market.
@gaunt valley
I recently wondered if maybe Samsung could try thier strength here. They are gonna release arm exynos with Navi rDNA graphic in 2021. Could be great if they release portable console based on Android to quick game ports and load a bit money for few exclusives like Apple arcade did.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I don't know. The handheld market is shrinking due to the rise of mobile games, so putting out a dedicated handheld console would be a huge risk. The Switch Lite profits from sharing the same games with a hybrid platform and from Nintendo's brand value. Competition would most probably arise from other console manufacturers, but Sony's last endeavour wasn't too successful and I bet Microsoft will not attempt to copy Sony's failure.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I mean in essence the market for 3DS style handhelds has more or less vanished

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Because for easy to carry mobile gaming, you have your phone

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So now its Switch-style

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Oh the Microsoft can have the element here. They partner samsung so much. Thier new phones have deep integrated my phone app. So the phones can be wirelessly used from PC app without even touching the phone. Calling, SMS, syncing.

The same act is for gaming and thier xcloud

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Which is fairly powerful, but less practical mobile console

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Basically, the Vita

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Ironically the Vita wouldve done much better

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Had it been released just a couple years later

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It was, quite literally, ahead of its time

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Today Ms announced even deeper partnership for the xcloud and probably the new samsung devices will have the app also integrated

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Yeah, it had dedicated games with huge production costs.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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But yeah, starting to create consoles basically from scratch is just a no-go nowadays, so the only options are existing console producers

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Compared to the Nintendo games.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Sony peaced out, Nintendo already made the switch, and Microsoft doesnt seem interested

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Best bet would be some mobile phone manufacturer creating a phone console hybrid

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Like the Xperia Play way back

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Alienware?

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Where's the consumer choice my economics professor told me about?

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:36 AM

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They announced the switch-like pc

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I'm sketchy about Alienware.

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:37 AM

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It's too big imo

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And it's still windows...

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:38 AM

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But yeah, for better or for worse, were stuck with the Switch

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At least Nintendo realised that they have one hell of a monopoly and decided to loosen the restrictions on what games could get onto the switch.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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And I'm also stuck with Windows. Linux is technically an option, but my time is limited, so not really. But since anti-trust is a thing of the past...

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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So yknow

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For accidentally lucking into a monopoly, Im glad its Nintendo who did it

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Why?

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Because enough people at Nintendo care for gaming over just being a corporate machine for profits

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Sorry, but I harbor little sympathy towards them.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:41 AM

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So the Switch became open to far more devs to put their games on it

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I mean hell, the Switch has gotten countless indie games on it

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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They don't. Nintendo is a stock company, and the shareholders care for one thing and nothing else. It's not games.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Once upon a time, indie games on a handheld was essentially unthinkable

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Didn't the vita have plenty of those?

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Indie games Overall ware less popular

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:43 AM

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A couple

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But only towards the end of its lifespan

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When Sony already figured out theyre gonna peace out of the market anyway

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I have a feel that indie games get popular when more and more AAA studios started doing loot boxes, rng things etc. These times.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I mean theyre a result of stagnancy in the mainstream video game market, yes

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:45 AM

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...or gaming industry is just a growing field and the difference between newcomers and established developers wasn't that significant back then.

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Quite true

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Isn't Nintendo the peak of stagnancy though? They are everything but experimental.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Idk, they made Splatoon, Arms, Ring Fit Adventure, Labo (however you see that), Mario Rabbids ...

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Rabbids, Rabbids, omg I want rayman 3 😭😭😭😭

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Even Zeldas new game was fairly unique

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Which isnt to say they dont have a lot of tried and true games they still make

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Besides, even if they themselves only made tried and true games, the people they work with for switch games dont

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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And still, technologywise they're lagging behind other consoles since the Wii U.
Also, what is so experimantal about Splatoon? It's just a shooter.
Nintendo classics like Mario, Fire Emblem, Zeda and (arguably) Pokemon are ages old and the basic formula hasn't changed.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I mean their tech isnt up to snuff, but they also experiment more with their consoles, so eh

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And Id say that calling Splatoon "just a shooter" is doing it a disservice

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Tech power isn't the end-all be-all.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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The entire ink idea is pretty unique and rad

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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We're all mostly here for Hades, and that's not a powerhouse.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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True

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I do wish the Switch was just a tad bit more powerful tho

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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No, but it cannot be ignored when discussing stagnation in the field.

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Also, Nintendo MAKES the consoles, so of course the tech is the matter.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I think it can be, actually.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Yeah

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Tech is if anything a source of stagnation

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Hollow Knight is running perfectly well on a 5 year-old CPU and GPU.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Games are focused more on being as high tech as possible, with incredible graphical fidelity, to the point that most of its multi-million budget is blown on that

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Which ultimately just ends up looking like another vaguely realistic game with a difference that is frankly minor

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I run hades without graphic card

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It's all about code not hardware

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Of course till you want to do rtx

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yeah

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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And games with super realism

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Indies are mostly low-tech games

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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So pixel games have the inherently best stories?

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Because they just dont have the money for more

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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No, but you don't need Crysis to have a good story.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yeah

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And if youre focused on being the new crysis

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You wont have money for a good story left over

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Besides, limitation breeds creativity

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Don't you think that the story department and the graphics department are two different issues that do not to stand in conflict?

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Take Ace Attorney, the games were very limited, by both budget and technical limits, which made it impossible to have full animations

fringe sparrow Feb 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Speaking about tech trick, (because crysis graphic was done thanks many of tricks) cryengine is now supported by switch

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 12:59 AM

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So instead they created a very limited kind of stop animation

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Basically the animation consisting of just the keyframes

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And it was such a brilliant success that even the modern Ace Attorney games still do it

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Even though they dont have that limitation anymore

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And nah, when it comes to budgeting, anything that goes to one department cant go to another department

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I really don't believe that the costs of storywriting are even comparable to that of graphics design.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I think we're getting away from the point, which is innovation in game design isn't 100% tied to technical limitations.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:04 AM

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That was never my point.

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But it still is a part of it.

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You can't have your BoTW on a GameBoy.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:05 AM

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No, but you can have Pokemon on a GameBoy.

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And it's not like the Switch is incapable of running absolutely incredible games.

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The problem isn't in the console's power, it's in the companies aims.

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And in an overly-profit-motivated world, lowest common denominators win.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Why take pokemon, a franchise that is mostly criticized for failing to reinvent their main formula?

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Because at the time it was revolutionary.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Ehhhh

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Extraordinary, then.

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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But today it would not be anymore.

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That's the point.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Because they've stagnated creatively, not because they're being held back by the tech.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Ok Ill go on a brief tangent, and this is kind of an "ackshually" thing but

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The concept of capturing enemies and using them to fight had existed for almost a decade by Pokemons release

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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You're correct.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Specifically, Megami Tensei did it in 1987

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But it was also quite different in concept

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I think Pokemon did it in a more consumer-friendly way, and it's obviously more popular for it.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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So I guess its less revolutionary, and more perfecting an existing formula

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Being aimed at kids is what helped Pokemon achieve supremacy tbqh

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That was a time when kids were the main people who would play video games

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Do you really believe that, if it arrived today, leave green would be as successful as it was in the early 2000s?

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Because story aside, the tech is just outdated.

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I mean, 30 years is a long time

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Obviously tech will jump

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But would Transistor still be a success today?

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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that's very true

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Even though its half a decade old?

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Id say yes

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 1:10 AM

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i definitely have uh. more problems with transistor's idea of lgbt rep than people who played it in 2014, lmfao.

faint panther Feb 19, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Hollow Knight, Celeste, and Baba Is You all are graphically simple games that do not require extreme power.

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 1:10 AM

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^

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:10 AM

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@autumn pasture Which problem? Didn't play it yet, but gonna do so soon.

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 1:11 AM

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the gay people are evil

hexed hollow Feb 19, 2020, 1:11 AM

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best to move to #transistor if you want to continue down this conversation

autumn pasture Feb 19, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yeah

gaunt valley Feb 19, 2020, 1:11 AM

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At least Hades gives me some good MxM romance.

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But I see the point.

abstract star Feb 19, 2020, 5:18 AM

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This game is so good, I just have to share it with everyone I can! There is a link in the video description where you can pick up a free beta key for Steam or Xbox One. It has a really awesome Bastion-like vibe to it. https://youtu.be/QBNXff259DI

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dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:07 AM

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does anyone have any tips on how to do better in league :'(

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i keep trying to learn in regular 5v5s but end up getting rolled by smurfs

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:31 AM

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i don't play league, but in mobas you kinda have to carry yourself out of the lower ranks

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after that the next most common problem is not paying attention to your objective

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positioning and prioritising targets also makes a big difference

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it can also help a lot to watch replays of yourself and skilled players

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since you can't always be analysing in the heat of battle

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:34 AM

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i've kind of gotten the hang of last hit on minions so i can get gold, but i struggle so much with smurfs lol

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also the pathing around minions is weird sometimes, which i'm really not used to

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:34 AM

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theoretically you should have the same amount of smurfs on your side and the enemy's

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so the difference should come from your own ability

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unless matchmaking is super wonky

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:35 AM

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i find it's usually the opposite case in most games i play, tbh

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that or the smurfs on my side don't really group up

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i usually play mid

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:35 AM

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i've heard getting out of bronze isn't really possible with certain characters too

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since some depend a lot of coordination

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when i've been in games with players i recognise as being better than me i also try to follow their cues

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since they usually know better than i do what is a good idea at a given time

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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most people also seem more inclined to flame than to be helpful; there usually aren't any "mentor" types

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pings are okay up to a certain point, and then it just gets too toxic when i'm seeing someone purposefully spamming another lane that isn't doing well

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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eww

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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probably best to learn with friends rather than solo queue

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it's too much with randoms

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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also a good idea

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and if nothing else it makes it a bit more fun

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mobas do tend to have a lot of hidden interactions and mechanics too

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so doing research and reading guides is also important

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:41 AM

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league's got such a huge catalogue that it makes it a huge pain to anticipate what they're going to do next if it's a champ i know nothing about

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:42 AM

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the basics of each role won't change

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:42 AM

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i've been following a few league people on yt but there's just such a huge gap in understanding that i don't think it's entirely the right path to take to learn the basics

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:43 AM

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look for stuff oriented towards beginners too

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:43 AM

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ranged is ranged, melee is melee, you mean? or adc/supp/jg dynamics

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:43 AM

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all of the above

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:43 AM

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it's really hard to know where the deficiency is coming from unless i'm obviously feeding to oblivion

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the concept of roaming when you're supposed to be in a set lane is also so confusing when the enemy team does it but you don't get any support as well

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:44 AM

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that's why you should watch replays

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roaming is about map awareness and paying attention to the status of your teammates

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:44 AM

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getting too many smurfs in one game that outstrip your collective team's skill is one of the main reasons why i see people start to flame each other

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xyz person doesn't come to help, jg just get a kill top but bot flames them for not coming earlier

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also another reason why i dread learning jg too, ugh

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:45 AM

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blaming others is never as effective as improving yourself

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rather than relying on others to protect you in that case, you want to pay more attention when your enemies leave lane

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and know where common gank spots are

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choosing someone you're comfortable with and sticking with them in the early stages of learning is also good

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it cuts back on how much you need to learn, and it makes dealing with the roster less work since you only need to learn one matchup at once for each character

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:48 AM

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i never blame others or flame, but pinging missing and following to see if they initiate a fight elsewhere or straight up just trying to push lane is so variable, esp if i'm certain i'll just get rolled by whoever just left and is about to come back to kill

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i'm certain it's a skill thing, but the problem is that i don't know how to improve in the moment when i panic and i know i'm outplayed

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:49 AM

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practice will definitely help with the panic part

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:49 AM

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99% of the time i leave to help but don't have much map awareness, so i end up also contributing to the kill count

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probably warding practice

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although i'm not certain how that works in league

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or playing with camera unlocked lol

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still not used to that either

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:51 AM

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from my experience you use warding to monitor objectives, commonly used paths and hiding places

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probably want to put your wards in spots that people use to attack you

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you can use the unlocked camera to look where you're going rather than at yourself, so you have more time and more information to plan with

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otherwise you'd be wasting half your screen space

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:53 AM

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that's something i struggle with a lot for some reason, using the unlocked camera

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:53 AM

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there's definitely a learning curve

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:53 AM

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prob something to do in bot games before i go 5v5

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 6:54 AM

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good idea

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seems like you have some idea of where you're lacking, so i'd suggest focusing on those areas starting from the fundamentals

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when you have an idea of how some things work the whole thing comes together a bit better

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:00 AM

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some idea, yes, but it's the actual experience that's so offputting that it makes me really not want to play any longer

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a year ago i probably would have had the time to invest into the learning

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but i've got such heavy work hours now that i feel like i've lagged behind everyone who was interested in learning alongside me or otherwise can't follow up on consistent playing to even improve

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the community is so toxic but at the same time, i get it-- you don't owe it to anyone else to teach them how to not die so much

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:09 AM

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you need to develop a thick skin to deal with the toxicity unfortunately

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or mute people liberally

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if you don't feel like it's satisfying to play though you entirely have the right to pursue a hobby that isn't as unpleasant

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:10 AM

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it's what i'm thinking of, tbh

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i'm really sad that i'm even thinking of giving up on a video game of all things

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because in my head it should be like any other game i've tried my hand at and enjoyed a lot

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but mobas really are just something else

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:13 AM

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The main question is, do you enjoy the game? Why/why not?

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:14 AM

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there's a lot of variety in games

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people don't have to find all kinds fun

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:17 AM

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i honestly really do enjoy league-- the characters are so varied and the mechanics are interesting

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part of my motivation to learn it is for social reasons since a lot of my friends play it already, but it feels pretty bad seeing everyone else destroy in their lanes and i'm just desperately trying to stay alive lol

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at the end of the day, it really is just more practice

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but it's kind of embarrassing doing all of the dumb elo things and realizing that i'm doing it, but not being able to correct it

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:20 AM

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I don't think it's worth playing a game just for social reasons if you don't enjoy it.

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:20 AM

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the awareness that i can be doing much, much better is there, so it just makes the losses or KDA ratio really soul shriveling if i do badly in one matchup, but decently in another

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lol

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:20 AM

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everyone improves at their own pace

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as long as you're getting better than you were before then it's all good

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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that's true re: playing for social reasons and improving at one's own pace

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in my head it's just a video game, though

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and of all the mobas out there, not one of the most intricate

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god forbid i learn something like dota

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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dota's not that much harder

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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really?

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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and games are fun when you can take them as seriously as you like

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:23 AM

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If you genuinely like the gameplay, keep at it and don't mind what other people think as long as you're trying and improving at your own pace.

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:23 AM

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i had a friend tell me it was so much more delicate than league

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:23 AM

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If it stops being fun, stop playing the game

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:23 AM

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it's still the same genre

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i find people who are good at one are also good at the other

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the core skills are about the same

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it's the finer details that make them distinct

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:25 AM

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ffxiv and fpses and single player games get so dull after a while

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i guess why i'm so hung up on league particularly is because it's the first in its genre that i've tried my hand at and encountered such a wall with

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i'm probably too used to games that kind of spoon feed you the mechanics

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and if i can get at least league down, maybe i can start dota, etc

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but if it's really not for me, i think i'll accept that

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...in a few months lol

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:27 AM

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mobas really are brutal in that regard

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:27 AM

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I never saw the appeal of mobas myself, but I'm generally not competitive and not a PVP person.

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:28 AM

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same, i'm not a fan of pvp either

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the complexity and coop aspects were a lot of fun though

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:29 AM

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I'd play something like that in a PVE environment

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Is there such a thing as a PVE game with moba gameplay?

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Bot matches, usually

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Some people just play bot matches with friends because it's less toxic and stressful

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:30 AM

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guilty as charged

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although it was at my own request

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Isn't that progression locked down in some form?

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Depends on the game

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I have no friends who would team up though tbh

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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In dota you have complete freedom

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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in league it's way too simple to encompass what actually goes on in a 5v5

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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That's definitely true

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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the first time i went to 5v5, i was shocked when the enemy team invaded

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and fed for the rest of the game

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:x

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Well, I wouldn't play PVP if I could avoid it

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:32 AM

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it's pretty fun watching the bots do weird things though

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i just feel bad letting my team down if i'm doing badly in pvp

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so sometimes i stick with pve even though it doesn't necessarily lend itself to improving any skills

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:33 AM

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If it's any comfort you're probably just not noticing the mistakes your teammates make

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And all good players think critically about their abilities

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:36 AM

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i really only notice the obvious things when i'm observing mistakes, like missing a skillshot or whatnot

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definitely a lack of knowledge though

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if i was able to identify those mistakes, i probably wouldn't be making them myself 🤔

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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It be like that lol

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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it really do

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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I have the opposite problem in videogames.

north hamlet Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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The other good thing to do is look at what others do right

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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I know exactly what I'm doing, but I can't execute motions I know consistently.

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See: Monster Hunter

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:37 AM

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enough knowledge but not being-- ah

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I've triple carted to a boss on the run right after nearly setting a personal best no deaths

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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lol, monster hunter

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i actually haven't played solo, but quit a while back because the multiplayer is terrible and glitchy

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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getting facerolled by basic monsters after soloing elder dragons/10

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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and my SO hated having to chase things down

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I played most of it solo, some duo

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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i'll have to go back to it

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i really liked it

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:39 AM

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SO likes the game, but kinda struggles with mechanics

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I just use my Player Side RNG™️ to sometimes win.

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:39 AM

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i bought the game because those palicos make food look incredible

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:40 AM

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yeet

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a worthy decision

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also

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:40 AM

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that and because i ended up gathering plants most of the time

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:40 AM

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"because palicos" is enough of a reason

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:40 AM

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ahaha

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it actually made the work feel like a fair tradeoff for the frustration

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i think i'll get the dlc too

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I sometimes feel like I'm an above average player alchemically fused with a below average player.

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Either legit good or actual trash, fluctuating every so often

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:48 AM

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I consider myself pretty good at most games

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except league

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which really rankles me lol

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i usually suck for a little bit, and then something clicks and I go oh! that's not so bad

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I have no sense of competitive spirit, except with myself.

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:49 AM

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and then I get really good

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but league is just something else

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I don't know what it is

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 7:50 AM

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But I get inconsistently good, because my muscle memory is not consistent

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 7:50 AM

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that's interesting

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muscle memory is pretty much what I rely on, going through the motions

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It actually hinders me sometimes when I'm switching from a certain game to another

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because I'm used to this control being bound to this action, and that control having the opposite effect in another game

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really messed me up with Pyre initially because the controls were finicky and not anything I'd actually experienced before

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although if the gameplay stops me from enjoying a game, I won't hesitate to set it to easy baby mode. no shame

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wide falcon Feb 19, 2020, 8:32 AM

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a snail with visible eyes

tardy ore Feb 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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yes

wide falcon Feb 19, 2020, 8:35 AM

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indeed

dense wren Feb 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

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snel

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Biggest tip I can give for league is to learn to abuse enemy mistakes

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Which I guess requires you to know what mistakes are, and general strategy

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Mobas are a different beast bc of the snowball effect

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I play a decent amount of league and like to think I'm at least a little ok at it (d3 last season) but it takes a lot of practice and time

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And not just the practice where you play, but actually good practice, including things like vod reviews, "studying" of champion kits, and drills to the point that micro becomes second nature

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It's really hard and definitely not for everyone

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Though if you want any specific advice I can link you to a couple useful resources for in general and the role(s) you like to play

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@dusty tree

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:07 PM

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!!!

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i would really appreciate that, thank you @sudden chasm

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:D

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:08 PM

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What role and champs do you play?

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:08 PM

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i usually end up filling because I'm not quick enough on the draw lol, but if I'm duoing with a friend I usually end up going supp because I'm not super great with last hit

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I've been getting into jg too

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Ahhh you still do blind

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I'd recommend avoiding that if you can

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Draft is a much better experience

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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:o

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Takes a bit longer to get into a game but they're higher quality

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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huh, that's good to know

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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If you don't know the difference

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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err, I play a lot of kayn and ekko

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Kayle if I'm supp

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Blind pick is no roles, and both teams pick at the same time

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Draft pick is role lock (you pick two roles you are willing to play beforehand), has bans (each player bans 1 champ), and takes turns picking

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Also unlike blind pick you can't have 2 of the same champ in the game, which means mirror matchups aren't a thing and that there's a lot more strategy and depth to picking

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If you like Kayle, btw, she's more of a top laner than a support

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:11 PM

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oh rip

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:11 PM

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If you like being a healer you could look into another "enchanter" champion

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Enchanters are champions that buff and support their team directly

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Things like Soraka, Sona, and Nami heal their allies quite a bit more than Kayle too

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:12 PM

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i play a little Sona

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I'd recommend her, she's pretty easy so she's good to learn support with

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There's a few types of supports btw

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Enchanters, tanks (in two flavors, peel and playmaker), and mages

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You might wanna try a champ from the other types too

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Leona is a straightforward tank and is pretty easy, and mage supports are all kinda hard but Brand and Zyra are the most popular

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Uhh let me find a good little video for ekko

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Idk one for Kayn, but I can just answer questions because I play a lot of Kayn

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He's my main jungler

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I'll keep that in mind!! I might buy brand, he looks interesting

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:16 PM

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dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I lag behind a lot with kayn sometimes because I play maybe too safe sometimes

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:16 PM

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The thing about champs like ekko is

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They have a high skill floor

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So you're not necessarily learning to play jg, you're learning to play ekko, which makes it harder to improve

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I actually play Ekko too, but as a mid laner only

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I think my biggest struggle early game is if I'm matched up against a ranged character and I end up getting pushed up against my tower

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Up until I hit 6, but then by that point I still play scared because of enemy jg

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Yeah, melee vs range is tricky especially for beginners

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If you're referring to Kayle that's kind of why she's not really good as a support at all

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I do ward, but it's just hard for me to understand the concept of escaping if I use up all my abilities and end up having to run away

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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She just kind of doesn't provide much for a 2v2 at all

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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hmm, I see

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would lux count?

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Something like Soraka, Sona, or Nami will heal more and also do more damage just by virtue of being ranged

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Lux is ok as a support

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I have some experience with her but not a lot

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And morg

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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She's like a middle ground between a mage and enchanter

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Morgana is an enchanter, but not a traditional one

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I'd recommend Lux for a beginner over Morg

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Lux can be a decent lane bully in lower elos because it's a lot easier to hit her skillshots than to dodge them at low elos

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Have you heard of the concept of a trading stance yet

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I know what trading is, but not a trading stance :'D

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sorry if I'm misunderstanding lol

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yeah trading is something everyone learns quick and is self explanatory

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Trading stance is the positioning you'll take in lane that lets you win trades and makes it easier to land skillshots

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:24 PM

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ohh

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Basically, when people aren't doing anything in particular, they're much more unpredictable

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But when you position correctly next to your dying minions

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The enemy adc will have to approach to cs them

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And it's at that moment that they're predictable

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You can throw a spell and an auto attack and they'll be forced to choose between taking damage or missing the cs

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And it'll highly improve your accuracy because they're more predictable

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I'll have to practice that

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0 idea it was a thing lol

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:26 PM

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It's especially important on support since you don't cs

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So you're free to position as you want

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:26 PM

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but I should never actually touch the minions, right?

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:26 PM

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You should but frankly not yet

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Sometimes I try to hit the cannon minion to bring it low enough, but my adc usually says it throws them off

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Minion wave management is a much harder concept and you're still learning the very most basics

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I see!

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Thank you for being so helpful, btw

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:27 PM

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There's a lot of concepts related to minion wave management and it's actually arguably the best tool to win lane, but it's also hard to do correctly and will take a lot of practice

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'm about to head out for work, but thank you so much for all the advice

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:28 PM

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So better to just ignore it lol

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Yeah basically the rundown is

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:28 PM

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is it okay if I ping you for a few more kayn and supp questions later?

sudden chasm Feb 19, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Practice a more support-y champ like Lux, practice tradinf stance, and study champion kits

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You should have a pretty good idea of what literally every champ and ability does in the whole game

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Which just takes experience

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And yeah that's fine

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I'd say work on your support first and worry about jungle later on

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Playing support will actually help your jungle, and support is easier to start with

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Since jungle and support are very similar roles

dusty tree Feb 19, 2020, 6:31 PM

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👍👍👍

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Eh, Im not sure I agree with Jungle and support being all that similiar

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I guess theyre both tecnically roles that support their teammates rather than trying to build a lead for themselves, but the way they accomplish it are radically different

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Anyway yeah, support is easier to start with, and you dont have to worry about lasthitting

velvet fjord Feb 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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me playing HoTS and not knowing last hitting

hasty kernel Feb 19, 2020, 11:26 PM

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I mean HoTS is pretty sweet for new players

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Does away with a bunch of the obscure nonsense

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I also liked it because it had minimal RNG

velvet fjord Feb 19, 2020, 11:34 PM

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I like it for the faster matches and more unique heroes

I mained abathur hard when I played

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:05 AM

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My only issue is that a lot of heroes felt too simple, I guess?

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Abathur was sick tho

velvet fjord Feb 20, 2020, 12:32 AM

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a lot of them were pretty easy to play as but there was plenty of higher skill ones as well

abathur, alarak, cho'gall, some of the other ones that I don't remember cause I haven't played in too long

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:40 AM

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This might be a bit of an odd question, but has anyone here made up a language (for a game/story/etc) or know anyone who has? Is it common?

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:43 AM

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r/conlangs might be helpful (ymmv: it Is reddit, after all)

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Ah, great! Thank you (:

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:44 AM

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no problem! i'm a lurker there but there are a lot of more knowledgeable people thereabouts

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I mean its a niche hobby

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Or perhaps a niche subset of other niche hobbys

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But people certainly do it

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Its interesting

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I considered making a language, but Id need a better grasp of general linguistical rules before Id try my hand at them

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:47 AM

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same

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i can come up with linguistic ideas, but never sounds in combinations that don't sound weird or ugly, hahah

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I'm currently making two, for DnD.

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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oh, cool!

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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For me its just my perfectionist streak

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Abyssal and Celestial, and the rules between them are polarized because of the angels and demons idea.

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I dont want to do something I dont have at least a fundamental level of understanding of

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Yeah, that's the hard bit.

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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One time I made a language collaboratively, it was a cool experience

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:48 AM

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That's awesome!

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Have a bunch of friends write texts in the language, and they make up words and grammar and tenses when they need them

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It fills out a dictionary nicely

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

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@autumn pasture Abyssal sounds "ugly" but I've designed it to sound that way. I could send you a sample of random sentences in it, if you were curious!

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

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yeah, sure!

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

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@upbeat scroll That sounds like an excellent idea!

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:49 AM

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i'm very fussy about aesthetics, hah

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Understandable. DMs alright? I'm not sure where I would put original content here. Maybe self promo?

autumn pasture Feb 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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self promo i think would work

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dms are okay though

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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So you want them to be in sharp contrast?

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I.e. tonal vs non-tonal?

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Carefully choosing what sounds a language uses can make it feel really cool and different, but for the collab thing I just went with "things are pronounced how you expect them to"

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Not quite that sharp, I would like them to be simple to learn, and tonal languages are generally hard for me to learn well.

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Yeah they certainly are

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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They're both non-tonal, but the way sentence structure works is exactly opposite from each other.

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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How so?

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Abyssal simple sentence structure: Subject / Object / Verb
Celestial simple sentence structure: Verb / Object / Subject

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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One of them puts the adjective before the noun, and the other puts it after?

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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More like that above.

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Oh ok

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Ah, so theyre more restrictive in their grammar compared to, say, english?

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I just haven't gotten that far yet.

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I'm moreso slowly building little baby sentences and stretching them out by adding extra words when I feel comfortable that the sentence structure works throughout.

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Translating little stories into your languages is a good way to figure out how it works

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Ohhhh I love that.

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Someone asked me earlier if I was going to write songs with this language and I thought that was a really neat idea!

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I developed the language pretty deeply by writing "the ants go marching one by one" into it

gentle bear Feb 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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That's an awesome idea!

upbeat scroll Feb 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Good luck

sudden chasm Feb 20, 2020, 6:39 AM

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@hasty kernel Late response but they're definitely pretty similar

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Both are very intense macro roles with lower micro requirements compared to other roles, with a focus on vision control and rotations more than anything else

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Compare it to the solo lanes which more or less balance micro and macro to a certain extent and adc which is much more intensely micro

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Both are also very 2v2 although jungle less directly so, but mid/jg are tied to each other quite a lot

magic heron Feb 20, 2020, 8:29 AM

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shadesmile

cobalt python Feb 20, 2020, 10:32 AM

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shadeembarassed

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Man, really enjoying Coffee Talk so far

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I dont know why these barkeep/barista simulator games are so enjoyable

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Almost makes you want to try that kinda job, til you realise most real customers arent as talkative/pleasant

deft comet Feb 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Lol

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Driving Uber is nothing like crazy taxi, either

sudden torrent Feb 20, 2020, 7:33 PM

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it's supposedly feeling of talking to interesting characters and their stories I suppose, it's main focus of these games and barkeeping/driving is just a sideline of it really. I think most of the time such games try to make these interactable characters so real or at least enjoyable that you can't really not fall in interest with them.

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Basically, yeah

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But even so, its essentially just a visual novel with a bare minimum of gameplay

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Yet I prefer it over actual visual novels

sudden torrent Feb 20, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I suppose it's due to how they are looking more lively with the animation, when usually VNs are a bit more less on that

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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That is probably part of it, yeah

sudden torrent Feb 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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it's the things that make characters more eye-catching, since even then they mostly don't use voice acting, so better use all resources they can.

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I guess the designs are also more interesting, and they have some neat little touches

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For example, it has a vampire character who obscures his mouth in the majority of his animations, which feels pretty neat

raven harbor Feb 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Ubers are exactly like Crazy Taxi in my area

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Since nobody apparently knows how to use a blinker or hazards

serene tulip Feb 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Anyone in here particularly familiar with fractional factorial design of experiments?

fervent zenith Feb 20, 2020, 10:56 PM

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wut?

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Statistics I believe, abusing the sparcity-of-effects principle to run experiments with less than full factorial design, cutting down on effort while still obtaining valuable results

hasty kernel Feb 20, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Alright, finished Coffee Talk

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Very charming game, I recommend it

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Its a bit short, but I feel this kind of game works best when its fairly short

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My only gripe is that one small plot point is a bit weird and is easily ignored entirely

serene tulip Feb 21, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I have like 3 factors each with at least 5 levels

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I could expand it to 5 factors if I wanted.

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Actually just 4.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I should note, Im not familiar with it, I wont be able to help

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I just explained the concept as well as my limited understanding could

serene tulip Feb 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Yeah I'm just complaining

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Ah

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Carry on then

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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ok graphic designer rant

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delete JFIF

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You are making a fool of yourself and jfif isnt even a better version of jpeg, its literally the same

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and a lot of the programs still cant open jfif these days to prove how unpopular this format is

serene tulip Feb 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I've never heard of JFIF but I'm now mad at it on your behalf

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 2:39 AM

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JFIF is just jpg under a different name

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literally, its still lossy

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its still small size great for web

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but its just unable to be open by me

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unless im using paint or something

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and i have like 30 files that are jfif that are sent by my client

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now i have to convert them 1 by 1 and theres no way to bulk convert them unless i need to use some shady online converter products lol

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adobe get on it release a format converter already

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 2:56 AM

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ok jfif is like jpeg but smaller by half

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but it really does not matter when jpeg is already doing its job well for being small, and we all have at least 1mbps internet these days its so negligible to reduce from 200kb to like 100

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the problem is just the accessibility of it :/

tardy ore Feb 21, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Hey, some poor buggers still live with dial-up in the rear ends of the planet

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but no one uses jfif so they don't benefit from it anyway, right

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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So we were talking about BoI in the #h1-builds-and-combat

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I did manage to get lost unlocks without cheesing on delirium.

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but the fact that holy mantle was an afterthough after a year shows you how poorly the game is balanced/designed.

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Obviously its not multiplayer; so balance is not character based. But it should be "allow the single player to have fun"

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 3:06 PM

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tbh tboi was never balanced when azazel exist

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azazel is such a crutch

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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@dense wren are you on windows? I think it's a one liner with imagemagick

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If you are on unix.

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Azazel was "let's try melee; wait why is everyone playing as this? Oh god what have we done?" character

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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yes and ive fixed the problem by saving them via paint

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but i would love to able to bulk doing it anyway

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32 of them, saving them one by one

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in 2020, it was a stupid thing to do lol

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Lol send them to me next time.

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If you have any unix; i can send you a command you can run to batch it.

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I used to dual boot windows and linux together.

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And windows and osx

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It's nice to be able to work on windows; but switch for these things that I have no idea how to do in windows.

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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i have no idea what that is

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Unix is an operating system layout. They are used by Apple computers (in their own OS called OSX). There is also Linux; which is a UNIX based OS.

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I'm on Linux now. Steam has good support to run windows games on linux now. Steam is doing amazing work in this regard.

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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oh so thats why they look so similar?

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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It's easier to interface with the command line in Linux. So you could issue a command that would automatically run your batch conversion for you.

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Yes. Well i think a lot of linux people appreciate the design principles of apple; and moving in that direction.

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There is a snowleopard (my most fav OSX version) lookalike Linux distribution called ElementaryOS for example.

dense wren Feb 21, 2020, 3:18 PM

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design principle of apple...

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really

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i feel like that term is a joke

ashen zenith Feb 21, 2020, 3:32 PM

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No they have good guidelines in UI designs

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well at least while steve jobs was in charge

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Do note, not hardware but UI

tranquil bay Feb 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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have a pun https://twitter.com/ArcinThePea/status/1227775899510112262

Archie E. Steelswart (@ArcinThePea)

How the Greek Fates took control over my life: a thread

Retweets

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Likes

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tardy anchor Feb 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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jhgvhjfchjgfchj

tardy ore Feb 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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heh

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@tranquil bay hey there's no thread. OP was just stringing us along

tranquil bay Feb 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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🤧

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im just really not going to get over the fact you responded to a pun with another pun [knifeduck.jpg]

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 8:55 PM

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just learned that doosk is a thing

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aPES_Cheering oh im gonna have so much fun this weekend

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 8:57 PM

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if you have two lasagnas and you stack them, how many do you have?

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 8:58 PM

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peepoThinkHYPER

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one lalasasagna

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 9:03 PM

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if you have a stack of chairs, is it one chair or multiple? if its 1 lasagna its also 1 chair

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yeah but a lasagna is already a pile of layers of cheese and meat

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so you're basically just adding more layers

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and besides - if you stack them together the cheese might melt a bit making distinguishing the layers harder

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 9:05 PM

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you make the two lasagnas in two different pans

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they are completely seperate

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just stacked onto each other

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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yeah but if you stack two hot lasagnas together they will melt into each other

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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hypothetically they didnt melt or degrade or anything

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they are just stacked onto each other normally like any other object

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:07 PM

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so - like i said
you get one lalasasagna

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sip

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anyway - lasagna is basically just a pasta cake so pepoShrug

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i'm not gonna say no to cake

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Strictly speaking still 2 lasagnas

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Lasagna should only have cheese on the top layer

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As such, having 2 layers of cheese means 2 lasagnas

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Eeehh.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Same way 2 sandwiches stacked ontop each other isnt just one sandwich

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:32 PM

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big mac begs to differ

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it has two distinct layers
with an extra bun in the middle

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and yet - it's just a one sandwich

raven harbor Feb 21, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Idk every lasagna I've had has cheese every or every other layer

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:33 PM

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⬆️ this

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I'm "eeehh"ing more at the word "should". There are super ultra-traditional ways to prepare food, but "the" heritage way isn't the only way, otherwise the second a single ingredient deviates you're suddenly not making that food, so, uh.

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 9:48 PM

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i...
kinda want to tweet gordon ramsay and ask him about this whole lasagna kerfuffle

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pepeLUL

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I mean, a Big Mac isnt 2 burgers stacked ontop of each other

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Its a single burger that has a slice of bread that has neither top nor bottom side as one of its toppings

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Also I should amend: I meant the layer of Mozzarella

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There is a layer of cheese inbetween, but its Parmesan I think

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So there is still a distinct top layer

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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You're still being too specific.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Anyway this all ends up being the sandwich alignment chart part 2

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/5e/77/215e7750ab98549fe7304e26cac36881.jpg

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Tag yourself, Im "a pop tart is a sandwich"

wide falcon Feb 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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sub

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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For the record, the Ingredient alignments for Purist and Neutral are, uh, the same.

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"Meat, cheese, lettuce, condiments (salsa), etc."

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I know, it's not yours.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Eh, Id say that purist is specifically sandwich meat

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As opposed to meat in any form

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Chicken salad?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I mean chicken strips are sandwich meat, no?

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At least thats how I always saw it

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The burrito one is odd though

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I see more shredded or cubed chicken than strips in chicken salad, but you're not wrong.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I dont really think burritos have anything that doesnt traditionally go on sandwiches?

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Would you put potatoes on a non-breakfast sandwich?

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I immediately thought of potato chips, but anything else?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Do Burritos usually have potatoes?

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Anyway Id say no, potatoes usually dont go on a sandwich

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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They can.

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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breakfast ones do

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Huh

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Fair enough

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I'm also a fan of potato in dinner burritos.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Ive never really had a Burrito I dont think

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Although now thinking about it

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I wonder if a sandwich with mashed potatoes would be any good

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You could make it a german sandwich, throw on it some Leberkäse and Sauerkraut

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ooh.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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.... Im gonna write that down for the future

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Please do!

karmic karma Feb 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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The top layer of a lasagna has less moisture than the rest of the lasagna, so if you stacked another lasagna on top of it, you either have two lasagnas or one poorly cooked lasagna

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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The big question is what kind of bread youd use for that sandwich

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Potato bread. squirtdevious

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:22 PM

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bake some potatoes until they're rock solid

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smush the mashed potatoes between

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I mean that sounds interesting, but raises the question of structural integrity

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Because ideal oven-baked potatoes are soft

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Well not soft as much as

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Not hard?

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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http://prntscr.com/r5wz7g

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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if we're seriously doing this, fried potato patties probably

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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this is a sandwich too

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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That could work

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I was thinking some kind of flatbread, personally

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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ok

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can we all agree that garlic bread is the best?

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aPES2_Cheer

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Ehh

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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potato patties with mashed potatoes and potato chunks between

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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oh don't you dare

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I mean Im a bit of a breadsnob given that is one of the proud cultural elements germany has

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Making sandwiches with garlic bread. shadeohboy

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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But I feel like there are many more interesting types of bread

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Oh, now this is an interesting concept

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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sweet bread

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Using Flammkuchen dough as the bread

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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so according to the chart, i'd be a rebel/rebel if i considered mochi a sandwich

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah thatd be total sandwich anarchy

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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where does my bread and bread sandwich fit in that chart?

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Structure purist, ingredient neutral?

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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more like
structure purist, ingredient beggar

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Yeah, Id say so

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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i just feel like this chart disparages the possibilities of sweet ingredients in sandwiches

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fruit sandwiches for example

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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That's under ingredient rebel.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yeah, though I do feel like it operates on a slightly different axis

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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But I don't know how to feel about that considering "ice cream sandwich" is such a thing.

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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is it rebellious to think that a sandwich can be more than just pure savory

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Ice cream sandwiches are pretty nice tbh

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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And the bread has to be separated? Come on, a sub is a structure pure sandwich.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Well purist is a pretty extreme standpoint Id argue

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But thats also fair

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I think the end goal was to have the "a Pop Tart is a sandwich" joke in there somewhere.

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

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caitlin is prolly looking at this conversation like

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gah

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wat

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Apparently Whole Grain bread is called "brown bread" in english?

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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"They're not breaking any rules, just don't think too hard about it."

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Because I was thinking maybe make the potato leberkäse sauerkraut sandwich as a whole grain bread sub

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Like, British English?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Unclear

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Because in America I'd call it whole grain wheat (bread).

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Thats just the name of the english page

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i've never called any bread brown bread

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though i am american

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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When I switch the language of the german page called "Vollkornbread"

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Which literally translates to whole grain bread

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i just say whole grain/whole wheat

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Curious

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Browser translation or an option on the page?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Its just the english wiki page

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Yeah, I got nothing.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Oh well

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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so would two structure purist sandwiches smushed between bread still be considered structure purist

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Yes.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Huh

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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hardline traditional?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Curiously that means that using recursion, there is a loophole

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If you keep recurring sandwich between sandwiches

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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is hardline traditional sandwiches to the 2nd power still hardline traditional

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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At some point the ratio of bread to non-bread becomes so large

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That its basically just a bread sandwich

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At which point it would technically become ingredient neutral

faint panther Feb 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Two d00ds on opposite sides of the world place bread butter-side-down on the ground you've made a structure-pure ingredient-rebel sandwich.

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Technically that would mean the world would violate all the food safety standards

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

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here's an idea: if we Big Mac™️ any sandwich, would they still be in the same category as before

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

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You mean add another slice inbetween that is neither a top nor a bottom slice?

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Yeah Id say so

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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🤔 👀 but if we did it multiple times

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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In germany we call those "Doppeldecker sandwiches"

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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um

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i think the achivement hunter guys did the exact thing

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they took a big mac

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Not sure if Doppeldecker is one of the words english appropriated from us or not

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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then put another, smaller burger inside

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then another, smaller burger inside

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until they had this.... fractal borger that was three feet tall

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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double-decker buses are a thing, does that count

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Like the ultimeatum from Regular Show?

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Yeah Id say so

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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double-decker bus is a sandwich

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I mean, structure neutral ingredient radical, but yes

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Now I wonder what Caitlins take is on sandwiches

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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does that mean that...
all the humans inside that bus are ingredients ?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Strictly speaking, yes

opaque quail Feb 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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A curious thing to want my take on, overall. 🤔

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Likewise, any humans who are below ground after 2 jokers put a buttered slice of bread on opposite ends of the world would likewise be ingredients

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i'd argue ingredient neutral, bc humans are savory

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yeah but metal isnt

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Yeah its curious indeed, but thats what makes it interesting

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:38 PM

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according to the chart, it specifically says sandwich toppings

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the metal would be the "bread"

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I mean the seats would be toppings

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And those still have metal frames

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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true

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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this discussion is a lot to digest, in a good way

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If a bus is a sandwich wouldn’t a human be a sandwich too?

royal relic Feb 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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ron

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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HI

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someone can help me

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I mean, are humans covered by a top and bottom part

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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when you put on a shirt you made yourself a sandwich roll, no?

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(help with?)

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Cotton = pita bread, human = inside

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And this would make a bus either a sandwich rack or a sandwich with sandwiches inside

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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i have a texture bug when i enter to the asphodel

opaque quail Feb 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Hey Ponsone! You can report bugs in game with F10.

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And for any tech solutions, look a bit further north in the channel selection for hades-tech-support 👍

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I mean technically humans are poptarts with a skin dough

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And that is officially the most cursed thing Ive ever said

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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...you’ve outdone anything my mind could imagine, I’ll have to sleep over this

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so if definition of a sandwich can stretch that far, can we have concept sandwiches?

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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What do you mean by "concept sandwiches"

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I’m trying to think a way to explain that concept without breaking my own mind

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like, a process like conceptualisation, marketing, production, marketing

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there’s two marketings there, that’s the bread

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The conceptualisation is either the topping or the dish, and the production is the ingredient inside the bread

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Unfrotunately Im not sure processes can have a location, as such making them into a sandwich or sandwich-adjacent product is impossible

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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why are you so involved in a discussion of sandwiches?

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you are fine?

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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it's the off topic

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people are allowed to have silly discussions

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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yes i know

opaque quail Feb 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Food is both a (widely) neutral subject AND something you can argue harmlessly about, it seems like a popular internet topic overall. 😄

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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but why sandwiches?

tropic garden Feb 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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cereal is a very wet salad

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I would phrase it as

opaque quail Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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It's really the curse of this website that started it all: https://cuberule.com/

tropic garden Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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your reaccs fuel me

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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ven i'm going to have to block you over that

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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"Cereal is a salad with a lot of dressing"

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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😬

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Also, Coffee is just bean soup

opaque quail Feb 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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sandwiches just have a lot of room for aesthetic debate I guess...
https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/859117370455060481

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The Sandwich Alignment Chart:

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hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Its also easy to make an alignment chart for it

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Also, since Ravioli are Poptarts

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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aguante el guiso pa

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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That means that, by transitional property, Ravioli are a sandwich

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

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they are not

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:31 PM

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ravioles

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jajaajaja

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Pop tart is a sandwich

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Pop Tart is also a ravioli

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Concuerdo con el de arriba

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Ergo Ravioli -> Pop Tart -> Sandwich

near mulch Feb 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Buena conclucion

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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are dumplings ravioli

blissful charm Feb 21, 2020, 11:34 PM

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whatever kind of "sandwich" those uncrustable things are are ravioli too

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Id say so

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Yknow, thats a good point actually

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Can it really be a sandwich if doesnt crunch

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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so a wet or untoasted sandwich...

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or on the other side, a taco broken in two from the bottom...

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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no. i'm a structural purist or at most structurally neutral.

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ravioli is not a sandwich!!

blissful charm Feb 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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im structural purist ingredient rebel

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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the best way to have fun in life is to be ingredient rebel

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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same, babs

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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and does samosa fit in this-

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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samosa falls into a different category

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Im radical sandwich anarchist

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

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the venerable category of 'fried things with stuff inside of them'

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the backbone of society

blissful charm Feb 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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the most delicious category

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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True

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~~Incidentally that category is half of all slavic food~~

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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good

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as i said, the backbone of society

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god i want dumplings now

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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The other half mostly involves mayo

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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ALSO good, mayo is delicious

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Personally I generally dont like mayo

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But it is pretty good in russian food

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I thought the other half’s ketchup

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Nah, ketchup isnt big in slavic food

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I though we were talking about society in general, tho sure in Slavic food it would be mayo

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Ah

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In general Id say that there is still the big part that is "potato-based food"

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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mhm, agreed

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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potatos are also real good

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Can’t imagine the society without rice, wheat or potatoes

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the holy triangle of carbs

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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~~I dont like rice~~

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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out

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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i'm not a huge fan of bread but rice and potatoes are very good

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Not a huge fan of bread?

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Blasphemy

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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it makes my mouth dry

slim bobcat Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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potatoes > rice > bread

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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agreed

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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^

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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There are tens of thousands different kinds of bread

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Surely you must enjoy at least a couple hundred

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For me its Bread > Potatoes >>> Rice

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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i enjoy bread sometimes, it's just not on the top food tier list

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like say. rice. clams. fresh veggies.

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I love bread if it’s covered in crunchy cheese and fragrant herbs

autumn pasture Feb 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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yess

hasty kernel Feb 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Im a big fan of just bread with nothing else

wide ember Feb 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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maybe then sliced and topped with fresh tomatoes and cheese