Hmm.
#off-topic-discussion
tardy ore
This thread... the reasoning described does sound like ADD/ADHD to me, but it's not a personality trait that is exclusive to ADHD, by a long shot.
I have a friend who does the same and has BPD, not ADHD. Different reasons for similar behavior.
arctic basalt
this thread came at my adhd self hard tbh
faint panther
Part of the reason I'm an anti-natalist is because I've got ADHD, depression, and anxiety and I did none of these things to myself.
Also possibly autistic, but between being the quiet middle child with a raging hand grenade of a youngest sibling, a lot of my issues were passed because I was quiet in class and at home.
So now I'm like 60% non-functional as an adult. It's great and doesn't make me hate being alive at all.
Thanks, Kam. 
tardy anchor
it can be a real treading water to try and function, i know 😔
autumn pasture
i'm in a similar boat. the good thing is that functioning is a learned skill, so we can all grow and improve 
hasty kernel
See the thing is, I do have issues with sitting still (or sitting in general, I kinda hate it) or focusing on one thing exclusively
But I chalked that up to me having been engulfed in the internet too much, to the point where I need a barrage of information or I get bored
But it could be ADHD
I should check that at some point
weary jacinth
is there a dedicated channel where I can report bugs I find ?
glass rover
press f10 ingame
weary jacinth
ah thanks
glass rover
there i corrected it
weary jacinth
keep getting asterius stuck in the lower right pillar and he doesnt respond
figured might as well report it
glass rover
also wtf is up with this chat ? circle jerk of complaining and victim mentality
opaque quail
Djee this is off-topic, people are allowed to find encouragement from others.
glass rover
but that's not encouragement the one guy just said he literally wants to kill himself
that person needs help
like medical help
tardy ore
Uh, no one said that 🤔
glass rover
"So now I'm like 60% non-functional as an adult. It's great and doesn't make me hate being alive at all." that's how i interpret it
atleast
hating being alive is akin to suicidal thoughts
tardy ore
That's called "overreading"
tardy ore
Also, wow, dude. And I thought I was rude and inconsiderate.
opaque quail
Let's move on from this, folks. While this is off topic and people are allowed to find support and encouragement, it's also not the place to offer or suggest medical advice.
glass rover
yeah might as well
opaque quail
If you feel genuinely concerned about a user, please don't hesitate to message me in the future, but this is not the appropriate place to make judgements about what others have to do for their health.
hasty kernel
Also damn, I feel like my german got worse to the point where I wouldnt feel confident applying as a community translator
And I still live in germany
Like just the sentence "In the name of someone very sore right now"
I have no idea how you would translate that to german
old aspen
I don't know how I would translate that into my native language either, without making it sound super awkward
hasty kernel
I mean the "in the name of" part still kinda works
But the second part really doesnt flow
faint panther
Surely there's a German word for "Someone who is very crotchety/sore about something right at this moment."
It's the language for goofy oddly-specific words like such.
hasty kernel
Shockingly, no, I cant think of such a word
faint panther
Now's the time, be the change you want to see in the world.
tardy ore
@hasty kernel I read your name as UN Oven a lot by mistake, on another note
Great. Now the concept of Flandre Scarlet as an oven haunts me.
hasty kernel
Instinctively I would translate it as "Im Namen von Jemandem dem Alles weh tut"
Which is something along the lines of "In the name of someone for whom everything hurts"
It does however slightly miss the meaning
Also its not a Touhou reference, its an Agatha Christie reference
I didnt even know Touhou at the time I chose my username
tardy ore
Well, it still evokes the notion of a touhou as an oven
faint panther
I didn't know "Flandre Scarlet" at first glance, so something tells me you've had this conversation before. 
hasty kernel
Yes. Yes I have
More times than I can count
I think 2 people asked me if it was an Agatha Christie reference
I was so happy when they did
tardy ore
Alternatively, a murder mystery where the culprit is an oven.
The point was, I keep misreading it as oven.
faint panther
Like, a sentient oven?
hasty kernel
Well technically this version would be pronounced as Ovven
Or Oven
So yknow, fair point
Anyway I should read more in german
Before I lose all prowess of the language
tardy ore
I mean, maybe. It could be alive. Or just left on way too long.
raven harbor
PSA: the Outer Wilds soundtrack is on Spotify
wide ember
I've never played Outer Wilds but I do listen to the OST on youtube and I have to say, it's one of the top tier music
very relaxing and cozy
raven harbor
Absolutely my game of the year for 2019
My only problem with it is that I can't play it again fresh
hasty kernel
Same
Its one of those "once in a lifetime" experiences
Like Transistor
And yeah the OST is great
Both in its soothing nature, and in the more anxious panicked tones as you approach 21 minutes
wide ember
So, how do Australians survive the summer? My friend said “just like that” but like, do you have tricks??
30-50 Celsius with 50-80% humidity
If it’s just cold it’s possible to wear more or use heating but how do you live in what’s basically a steamer?
hexed hollow
30 to 35 isn't too bad, anything above 40 is stay inside where the air con is
the humidity varies quite a lot, some days it's manageable others it's the worst and cold showers don't do anything to help
but in short air con is kinda a must during summer or death happens
the humidity is particularly bad today because we've just have a few days of nonstop rain
tardy ore
Philippines here. 100% humidity gang
north hamlet
On cooler days fans and light clothing plus staying away from sunlight
Oof
How hot does it get up there?
hexed hollow
yeah, I've heard in Darwin you have a shower, as soon as you walk outside you need a shower again it's that humid
north hamlet
We're basically having tropical winter here
As you go up it gets hotter and wetter, as you go south it's cooler and drier
Tasmania is pretty mild
It's also pretty dry around adelaide even in hotter weather
It also gets hotter and drier as you go inland
So around alice springs will often be 40 to 50 C
There's some weird microclimate shenanigans in sydney too
hexed hollow
Tasmania is pretty nice :3
north hamlet
Where it's 5 degrees hotter on the west side compared to the east
hexed hollow
yeah, the coast has a lot of things affecting its weather so it makes it incredibly hard to accurately predict anything more than 3 days of weather for it
tardy ore
The best way to describe Metro Manila weather most days: Urban heat archipelago
sudden torrent
So, guys, do you want -10 C° or less temperature with big amount of snow and heavy gusts of wind?
Can share
north hamlet
Ideally we would go halfsies
But I'd prefer it as someone who's fairly cold tolerant
sudden torrent
I am cold tolerant too, but I much hate how runny my noise gets
Or how I have to wear gloves outside.
wide ember
is it because minus 10 Celcius isn't cold enough to remove most cold germs or because it's just the coldness to make your nose dry and cold so your body tries to heat it up and hydrate the nose?
tardy ore
Ori and the Blind Forest for Lots% off, Dead Cells for 30% off, worth picking up now?
sudden torrent
Second probably. Because indoors I usually rarely sneeze unless it's spring or Autumn.
wide ember
at least cold and dry means cotton is a viable insulation
tardy ore
man DMC5 is also on sale for reasonably cheap
autumn pasture
i quit ori at the second dungeon (frustrating....) but i can recognize it's objectively well made, felis
tardy ore
I finished it once, I think before deluxening
just thinking of actually supporting the devs properly this time now I have the means to
copper lichen
ok
I updated discord and now discord give me a desktop notification on every single server I am in for every single message people send
I turned off everything, message notification, desktop pop up
it still does it
please help
tardy ore
Neat. Steam has soundtracks on sale now.
A great time to pick up, say... the Supergiant soundtrack collection c:
autumn pasture
;>
sudden torrent
tardy ore
those are lomg cats
sudden torrent
very loong
tardy anchor
one of these cats tells the truth the other only lies
tardy ore
whew. I have... $80 worth of game soundtracks and DMC5 in my cart
and Dead Cells and Ori
autumn pasture
tardy ore
should I do it...
autumn pasture
what soundtracks??
tardy ore
well, DMC5, Doom, Dead Cells, Ori, Hat in Time, and Supergiant: All the Things
sudden torrent
go ahead! Big boy sales are away from right now, so I think why not.
tardy ore
Man, I wonder why Transistor Extended isn't in the soundtrack list though?
autumn pasture
it might count as a dlc?
tardy ore
Oh, it was just snuck in unofficially as a free update to soundtrack owners
Just... it hasn't been converted to Steam's new soundtrack format yet
Ah right. I also have Hollow Knight and Monster Hunter World soundtracks.
autumn pasture
yeah
tardy ore
That's... an unholy amount of music
autumn pasture
the hollow knight soundtrack is so good though 
christopher larkin really goes off
tardy ore
Roguelites... well, Children of Morta is Hadeslike but slower. Dead Cells is on sale right now o'clock and has many fans.
Rogue Legacy, the old school classic, still pretty good
mellow token
I love this game - Anyone got recommendations for more roguelikes/lites?
tardy ore
I like Dungeon of the Endless, turn based ish, not for everyone but it's fun
north hamlet
By this game you mean hades and not one of the other three?
autumn pasture
it's less of a combat game and more of survival
sudden torrent
I would say it's more lite than like, since in like the progression is very little between runs as for the games to play, here is a link to the previous time I have recommended. https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/461234513427562517/673755484104425493
tardy ore
classic roguelike style - Tangledeep, Tales of Maj' Eyal
sudden torrent
oh man, another person who played Flame in the flood. 
sudden torrent
Crying Suns, but it's basically FTL, but you control a fleet instead of one ship.
mellow token
I've played RoR and FTL, Enter the Gungeon, Binding of Isaac, RoR2
@north hamlet sorry yeah, Hades
Although I have also played a bit of Bastion
autumn pasture
i've just started flame in the flood! i like it so far
post apocalyptic americana is good
tardy ore
Anyone played Dead Cells?
sudden torrent
good luck dealing with all the diseases and animals!
tardy ore
Wondering if I should pull the trigger or not
sudden torrent
Yes I have, but I never gone through a successful run beyond zero cells. :/
tardy ore
Was it worth
sudden torrent
it is, but if you are up to play the game, expect it to be quite heavy on platforming and 2D fighting, it needs a precise timing and strategizing, part of it is also like in Hades, you buy upgrades by clearing zones and then spending the cells thingy in shop, however, if you die, you don't get the stuff back, you need to redeem them at checkpoints.
Though honestly Flames in the Flood is good, but do I wish the river system wasn't so annoyingly scary when controlling it.
tardy ore
Well, is it significantly harder than Hades...
sudden torrent
definitely harder I suppose? Honestly depends what weapons you also run (yes there is this one thing about it that it has its own thing with weapons) though if I am not wrong there are mods out in steam workshop for easier experience.
mellow token
I've played Dead Cells. It's super good. Got quite far as well. Might pick it up again
north hamlet
I'm personally fond of the roguelites crypt of the necrodancer, heroes of hammerwatch and one way heroics
tardy ore
Oh yeah, Necrodancer!
Hard if you're bad at timing like me, but great, and amazing soundtrack
On another note, not roguelike/lite at all, but should I get DMC5
north hamlet
Heroes of hammerwatch is probably closest to hades of the three
mellow briar
The roguelite that makes me think of Hades the most is Forced Showdown
Also tied with Asura
faint panther
I'll say you lose just a little from DMC5's story without having played 3 and 4, but it's arguably the best hack'n'slash ever made.
fringe sparrow
I loved dmc4
Its great and run on my low-end pc at 60fps
god, I would love if Hades had style indicator huh
wide ember
Haven looks so cute
I sure hope it stays the Public Display of Affection: The Game all the way
autumn pasture
i'd like it better if it were mlm hahah but i definitely plan on picking it up
wide ember
I'd like it better if they are literally two lovebirds
I saw the demo video and they are hella cute, they can shield each other and attack together, and there's cooking elements beside the RPG and... gliding?
and the relationship seems so healthy
wide falcon
The couple vs The stranger
wide ember
I am their fury, I am their patience
I am a conversation
serene tulip
tardy ore
@fringe sparrow oh I'm sure people have commented on Zag and/or Than and Meg's... smokin' sexy style before
autumn pasture
yess sol i saw that when i played the demo
i'm always a sucker for a good cooking minigame
sudden torrent
That rpg somewhat reminds me of romancelike? Roguemance? Basically was a little game where you share a controller with someone and play through the game by cooperating with the move set and thinking through each other's decision. Very small game, but very good none the less.
autumn pasture
aw, that does sound interesting
sudden torrent
Came out like 3 years ago on Valentine's Day for 2-3 dollars I think.
tardy ore
damn, nice
sudden torrent
It's only problem I suppose is how it's stretched and doesn't have many varieties and replayability, but I suppose the stretch was done for balance purposes and so that people couldn't just buy and the refund the game after doing one full run. Dunno honestly.
autumn pasture
ah yes, the classic steam short game exploit
tardy ore
🧀
faint panther
Anyone know how I can launch Steam games from my Desktop without actually opening Steam?
I'd love to play Dead Cells without this bloatware, but it's just not as sleek as the EGS.
tardy ore
Uh... EGS sleek?
faint panther
Yeah, I buy my game, update it once in a blue moon, and never touch it besides.
Steam and Origin won't let me run their games without opening them.
tardy ore
that's not sleek, that's avoidable clunk.
sudden torrent
Can go offline mode, but that's all that you can do I think. Don't know any other means.
faint panther
I'm being partially facetious because I think elitism about launchers is absolutely absurd, but I'd actually like to run my games without opening the launcher.
Thank you, @sudden torrent
sudden torrent
That will just practically disable it however. It will still run, just at lowest amount.
faint panther
The first line was facetious, and I wasn't attacking you specifically.
tardy ore
Remember when Steam was a lightweight godsdamn native app?
faint panther
No, actually. It's been clunky ever since I started gaming on PC in 2013.
tardy ore
I mean clunky to navigate yeah. But it didn't consume nearly as many system resources back when it wasn't rendering 80% of the UI as a webpage.
faint panther
So, what, it's intentional design flaw that makes it run poorly?
tardy ore
No, it's laziness and ineptitude
App developers code in Chromium because it's braindead easy.
But, as the million memes about Chrome can attest, Chromium as a platform is a disgusting resource hog.
faint panther
So, yes, EGS is more sleek currently. Less features, maybe, but so much less clunk that it's made a difference in my gaming experience.
tardy ore
The thing is, EGS is coded the same way.
faint panther
And yet it lets me play my games without having it execute.
sudden torrent
Honestly, I did wish Steam wasn't so heavy to say the least, but not really a problem for me, for now. Has EGS yet released a 2FA or what was the name of function? Because that's what keeps me away from it mostly I suppose.
tardy ore
The only advantage is not having to run it, yes
faint panther
That's all I use Steam for.
tardy ore
as I said: Avoidable clunk
faint panther
I'm missing your point, apparently.
I use Steam to play games, and its inability to let me play them without hogging resources is an issue for me.
EGS lets me play my games without hogging resources.
north hamlet
Egs does have 2fa now @sudden torrent
sudden torrent
Oh cool. May try it out
north hamlet
It does have no drm and free games
tardy ore
Yeah, that does not make it a sleek program
north hamlet
If that helps with any other security concerns
tardy ore
That makes it a bloated program that doesn't have to run in the background, which I suppose is an upside
That said, if you close down Steam and set your friend list to offline and close THAT window, it helps significantly.
north hamlet
It kinda has the same effect, so it's something
faint panther
Yeah, so less sleek. Takes more steps to get where I'm trying to go.
north hamlet
The new friends thing is pretty wasteful when most people use discord on the side
faint panther
Alright, thanks, @sudden torrent, guess I'll just keep dealing for now.
north hamlet
Nice as it is
tardy ore
Saying it's sleek implies the launcher itself is coded well, though.
Completely different
faint panther
No it doesn't.
I means it works more smoothly.
Stop putting words in my mouth to fit your ideas. Please.
faint panther
I asked for help with a technical problem and then you butted in to correct my language.
tardy ore
Holy crap.
Okay, if you're that easily offended, feel free to ignore the suggestion I made which also actively cuts down on the program's resource use, just to pursue your excuse to get mad.
sudden torrent
My only concern could be though the "selling data" part that been running around but never fully explained to me properly with some stuff, but I suppose since it wasn't said in a while it's not much of concern or really not truthful at least fully.
tardy ore
Well, everyone sells data nowadays.
Only way to avoid that is to have no accounts.
My only concern is Epic Games' business practices, its particularly underhanded way of securing exclusives.
faint panther
Big upfront paychecks?
tardy ore
Don't really care about anything else, it's just objectively as badly coded as Steam otherwise, and the China scare is mostly just racism.
Upfront paychecks, refusing to carry indie games that DON'T take the exclusivity deal, and bulldozing over Kickstarter promises to have Steam keys.
faint panther
You've got me on the last one, I didn't know about that.
tardy ore
Supergiant is one of the few devs who are unequivocally in the clear
Because they didn't go back on any promise, they were launching on EGS from the start.
👌
But, #2: DARQ's dev was offered exclusivity. He said no, and asked if he could launch his game non-exclusively. He was refused, despite the company taking on high profile games cross-platform.
"Take the deal or your game isn't on our store" isn't a cushy deal for devs, that's strong-arming.
faint panther
It's one storefront.
tardy ore
The latter? Uh. Lots. Many many games.
Shenmue 3...
is just the most pathetic, because it's an overfunded piece of trash
faint panther
"Take the deal or your game doesn't launch" is strongarming.
tardy ore
but also, stuff like Metro Exodus being preorder on steam and yoinking out
I mean, it's a lesser degree, but it is still blatantly unfair
Because clearly they have no issue carrying other games non-exclusively
faint panther
Other games have more market power.
I'm not looking to steal people's shirts out from them, but if I were to run a business I would want to make money.
This isn't any different from Sony paying for Bloodborne exclusivity, but we all still played it when we could.
tardy ore
They'd still... make money, though
They don't lose money from signing a normal deal to sell a game
also, console exclusivity is a horrible practice.
faint panther
If they want to prioritize curation for bigger draws, that's their business prerogative.
tardy ore
¯_(ツ)_/¯
faint panther
Games aren't entitled to sell on every launcher, and again, I want to emphasize that it's a separate launcher on the same system.
tardy ore
I don't think it's aboveboard. It's legal, but it's not fair play
faint panther
It wasn't like myself buying a Switch to play Mario Kart.
I installed another singular program to get access to Hades.
sudden torrent
Alright suppose will go EGS for the games then, It's been really hard for me to consider it actually viable due to how hard hitting were the "EGS is bad" stuff back in the day, been lacking a proper explanation and view on it.Though I have been thinking the EGS hate was getting tiring after the summer definitely. Thanks for the discussion on it.
faint panther
Thank you.
tardy ore
At the time Hades came out though it didn't have regional pricing - not an option for me.
I don't have any hateboner nonsense for it
I just don't like them, personally, as a corporation
faint panther
No corporation is good.
sudden torrent
I seen people there and there saying some stuff about how EGS was good, but I wasn't really convinced due to that mob feeling I have possible gotten carried over or the fact the people who have been saying good things about it quite frankly one time weren't exactly so good with their words or were as mean as the egs hate discussion stuff.
tardy ore
Well, that was a very obvious statement to make
tardy ore
not you, schpoon's "corpos bad" is pretty water-is-wet
faint panther
Your unspoken defense of Steam in the same sentence is pretty damning.
earnest pier
I say come to your own conclusions by using either one
tardy ore
"unspoken defense"
see, you're reading things that aren't there into everything I say again
faint panther
Steam is okay by your own usage of them, but the EGS isn't.
sudden torrent
oh, well still. I get that a lot that I say pretty obvious stuff.
earnest pier
Going on mob mentality will make you miss out on many things based on fear
faint panther
They've both got their problems.
tardy ore
@earnest pier I don't really care for mob opinions.
I thought the overblown rage against the Epic store was... thoroughly pointless.
chilly briar
hey now, obvious or not, reiterated points have their place. As for EGS, it has many problems to solve and a competitive mature market to enter, but the support it offers developers to get off the ground with new products is something we all benefit from in the long run.
earnest pier
True true, I really do think that's the beauty of their deals is they are able to help games get a running start
tardy ore
@chilly briar Their place is not assuming someone said something they didn't and arguing against that.
sudden torrent
Yeah definitely, previously I just didn't feel like it was mob feeling, but like after it gone to ridiculous stuff I just became very apparent of it.
tardy ore
For someone who claims to hate having words put in their mouth...
faint panther
This entire discussion was spurred from "EGS does something better than Steam, can I improve Steam to work like that?" and I had to get around "How dare you praise the EGS" to get technical advice.
chilly briar
There is definitely a large group of people that are strongly against EGS and the exclusivity, but it's a small price to pay for helping these things grow, and in most cases the titles spread to other platforms after the timed exclusivity is up anyway.
tardy ore
I feel like the words I am putting on the screen are completely different from the words you are reading.
earnest pier
But it just feels bad to wait 
i want gaems now
chilly briar
valid
tardy ore
I say what I mean, and mean what I say. I don't screw around with such nonsense insinuations.
faint panther
tardy ore
Okay, what part of the conversation did I say "how dare you praise EGS" in?
Quote it.
Right now.
faint panther
I admit I escalated, but it took a third person entering the conversation to turn it back to technical advice.
tardy ore
I GAVE you technical advice for making Steam less bollocks.
You ignored it to attack me again.
earnest pier
just agree to disagree and talk about what really matters...who the best romance partner in mass effect 2 is
earnest pier
I hear a huge lack of Jack romance in your words
chilly briar
I should really play mass effect
sudden torrent
definitely the big buff alien.
earnest pier
That hair though 
tardy ore
Thane was pretty ok
tardy ore
Liara's alright but
earnest pier
basically like going back to college
tardy ore
See, I was kinda mad, and still am, that you're not allowed to threesome Tali and Garrus.
I mean, if you don't date them they date each other.
So why not...?
earnest pier
Liara's story is much more fun to watch when you are not committed to her
tardy ore
(Thanks, Hades)
It would have been significantly funnier for the Shadow Broker to be a dog. That is to say, a Shadow Borker
earnest pier
I will say I should have picked Kaidan over Ashley, cause man does her racism just feel so out of place in the rest of the games
earnest pier
In the first game yeah, but he gets way better in 3
tardy ore
I think she gets better if you actually go through her arc.
tardy ore
...Carth?
faint panther
Carth Onasi.
tardy ore
Wasn't sure if it was Carth or someone else.
on that note, Visas Marr best girl
ah crap I just realized KotOR II also had that problem of "Handmaiden versus Disciple"
And that one wasn't even the damn Bioware one
🧂
chilly briar
🌶️
earnest pier
spicy
sudden torrent
Spicy stuff
chilly briar
🧂 & 🌶️
earnest pier
🔥
sudden torrent
I say both
chilly briar
RIP I said the lexical bundle backwards
tardy ore
smh my head, not having a pepper emote
sudden torrent
I like my dinner spicy and salty.
tardy ore
Hm?
chilly briar
I grow ghost chillies
earnest pier
Oof
tardy ore
Who says pepper and salt?
earnest pier
Mad man
tardy ore
speaking of, my least favorite lexical bundle is "women and children"
sudden torrent
and meanwhile I am growing coffee bean tree.
chilly briar
it's a tree??? I always thought it was a vine
tardy ore
🅱️eans
sudden torrent
well it is a vine
earnest pier
🅱️ig
chilly briar
☕ eans
tardy ore
So you're doing it for the vine?
tardy ore
eee
sudden torrent
coffee beans tree does sound bizarre, but thankfully I know when to correct myself.
I did own a lemon tree though too!
tardy ore
we have a... sadly overgrown oregano plant
sudden torrent
but I kind of failed with the lemon tree, so I had to let it go.
tardy ore
kinda feel bad for it, but no one has time to trim it all off right now
sudden torrent
mean it did grow lemons, but not great ones.
chilly briar
lemon trees are hard to get started but once established are usually pretty good
tardy ore
When life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back
chilly briar
they need soooo much water
tardy ore
GET MAD.
chilly briar
I should replay portal 2
earnest pier
MAKE LIFE RUE THE DAY
tardy ore
still need to finish co-op with partner
lot of achievements to farm out
lot of amusing ways to yeet each other into the death acid
earnest pier
Man the best bit of Portal 2 co-op was standing on those buttons that activated the panels and infinitely slamming your friends into walls 
tardy ore
donk
chilly briar
y'all are EVIL
earnest pier
tardy ore
what game should I be bad at next?
chilly briar
yes
tardy ore
I just got Ori and the Blind Forest and Dead Cells
earnest pier
We also used to steal the laser from each other and shoot each other
tardy ore
do I go and just figure out if I'm too bad to keep dad cells
...dad cells
that sounds like a hades crossover
earnest pier
I do have a few single player games I need to run through 
tardy ore
At least I now have warframe cosplays, so even when I'm not playing Hades, I can play Hades. 4Head
earnest pier
I am like 17% from 100% Far Cry 4
tardy ore
well, that's not exactly a far cry from completing it fully
100%ing Ubisoft games is infuriating though.
Just... ugh.
The obsessive collector in me wants to do it, every other part hates that it's even a thing
earnest pier
Well they make the process of it somewhat worth it since certain guns are only available if you do a majority of the side stuff
tardy ore
Yeah, it's just that the Ubi formula of SO MUCH BUSYWORK is psychologically designed to screw me over
sudden torrent
I think only Far Cry was successful at least making it fun.
sudden torrent
remember trying to 100% Assasian Creeds 2 on PS3.
earnest pier
Oh god
tardy ore
(not bloody AC3 which was half tutorial)
earnest pier
Feathers for days 
tardy ore
Never touched MP
sudden torrent
yes I remember its existence
earnest pier
Black Flag was fun but i think that's because of the pirate aesthetic for me
tardy ore
And yet, it had the rope dart, the single most fun tool in the series
yeah same degen
pirates good
earnest pier
Getting upgrades by exploring was hella fun
sudden torrent
I think only thing that generally didn't stick well with black flag is the ship stealth missions
like
earnest pier
most days when I grind out side stuff I was listening to podcasts
sudden torrent
who came up with such
tardy ore
rofl yeah why does a ship have to sneak
earnest pier
helped me catch up on ones i wouldn't have other wise
tardy ore
You know what kinda open world with collectibles was super fun?
Okami
(Capcom knows it. They milk that game to death)
sadly since Clover's demise and Capcom's continued ownership of the IP, Platinum Games can't make a sequel.
autumn pasture
what's the gameplay like on okami? it's one of those big indie games i haven't played
tardy ore
Zeldaish
amusingly not indie, it was made by a Capcom subsidiary that dissolved and reformed independently as Platinum (Clover Studios)
It's like Zelda, but with a magic paintbrush, and you're a wolf
and also the sun goddess
Lots of ways to mix up combat with different weapon types, RPG elements, exploration and discovery
little puzzles everywhere, like 80% of the world is interactive in some way with your powers, collectibles and things.
style kills exist, other fun stuff
autumn pasture
hahah is zeldalike a genre now? i wasn't aware
tardy ore
Yeah, it's like, the Dark Souls of Zelda, you know? /s
Hmm. Dead Cells... died at 113 minutes in game, but like 50 of that was paused.
Do I keep it...
It's fun to start with but man am I bad at it.
fervent zenith
Anyone knows any interesting SP game coming soonish?
wide falcon
I'd unironically support that term
fervent zenith
With so many delays its impossible to keep track
Also yeah, if I had an euro for each time someone compared a game to Dark Souls
tardy ore
I prefer Doofensteins.
wide falcon
🎵 Doofensteins Evil Incorporated🎵
autumn pasture
i'm an american, can i also get a euro every time someone compares a game to dark souls? that's better than getting a dollar
@fervent zenith what kind of games do you like/are you looking for? i might have some recs
fervent zenith
Anything with a good plot
autumn pasture
a gamer after my own heart. lemme look through my wishlist
upcoming releases or released titles?
tardy ore
I'm in the Philippines, can I get a whole-ass euro for that too
worth a lot in excahnge
fervent zenith
So I want to ply games I literally couldnt before
autumn pasture
ooh nice
tardy ore
Buy hades again 4head
fervent zenith
2017 up
autumn pasture
well, have you played hollow knight? play hollow knight
tardy ore
the HD Okami is technically 2018 or 19 rerelease
autumn pasture
firewatch, mutazione, the gardens between, katana zero,
tardy ore
Man, I play games released in the last two years so infrequently.
autumn pasture
samorost 3 is 2016 but it was just recommended to me and it looks beautiful,
yessss mutazione is a Good game
tardy ore
Yakuza
autumn pasture
!!! luna: the shadow dust releases TODAY so i'm going to buy and play that
fervent zenith
Yakuza is a beat-em up right?
autumn pasture
GORGEOUS looking point and click
i haven't played disco elysium but apparently that's very good
autumn pasture
florence also comes out/came out today
'this game is planned to unlock in approximately five hours' 
tardy ore
VA-11 Hall A comes very often recommended, I have it but haven't played it...
Sexy Brutale likewise
autumn pasture
ooh yes, heard sexy brutale is also good
the shovel knight series got updated in that time period, those are all great games if you want better-than-retro retro style platformers
like the most recent game came out this last december
those come highly recommended from me, i'm watching my brother play the third one right now
tardy ore
Most of my games are older.
That, and lately I've just been getting recs via Can You Pet The Dog
autumn pasture
heheheh
my wishlist is so full.........oof
lightmatter just came out but i played the free demo and didn't find my enjoyment outranked my need to take dramamine
always have to factor that one in with 3d games
tardy ore
https://twitter.com/CanYouPetTheDog/status/1218201001687207938 man, now this is a throwback
okami content is always good
You know what I want to see?
A pirate game where the captain is a seal
A grumpy seal.
In other words, a salty sea dog.
autumn pasture
sudden torrent
should I worry if I during my nap I encountered a bug in Hades?
sharp grail
@tardy ore sorry I’m a bit late, but I deleted the wolfendoom twitter link because that picture had swears in it! Please don’t post images with swears, as we keep a clean language in the server
tardy ore
oh right. I forgot about that.
sharp grail
also, are we recommending games?
because hey..... pathologic 2 has a GOOD plot...... and it’s also on gamepass if that’s relevant to you
it’s called that but it’s not actually a sequel but a remake, so you can play it without any previous knowledge of pathologic
tardy ore
That is such a weird name
sharp grail
also, you can report bugs with F10 @sudden torrent! You might want to visit #h1-tech-support
sudden torrent
no no, I didn't encounter a bug in game, I encountered a made up bug in my own head during a sleep.
sharp grail
yeahh it is. I am pretty sure tinybuild made the devs change the name to that from just “pathologic” which caused tons of confusion.. which is just one way they messed it up for them. They didn’t market it at all, people didn’t even know the game came out.
ahhhh... 
in a dream.....
sudden torrent
yeeah
sudden torrent
I did have game related dreams, but never a dream where I encounter an actual visual/gameplay bug.
sharp grail
I’ve played way more of the original game than I have of the remake but what I’ve seen is amazing, and I keep shilling bc the publisher did the devs dirty and I want to see people support the studio so they can keep working on it
sudden torrent
I seen the reviews and analyses on the game, hell even seen it get a promotion way back from one of the russian gaming tv channel (yes we have those for whatever, but it's helpful one at that suppose, it talks about some interesting indies time to time), but after hearing that they were done dirty I tried to recommend it to others during autumn but kind of failed since no one was into horror really or survival stuff to even consider the game. :/
I am thinking on maybe manning up and trying out the game myself, my only really worry for Pathologic 2 is if I am good enough at trying out the way it is intended and actually play through the game fully as it is right now, because the game just sounds so niche and yet new, I can't let myself pass up on that.
fervent zenith
The problem now is that shovelware has bcome so prevalent the good titles get drowned in mountains of bettle dung
old aspen
I'm late but Disco Elysium is extremely good and I recommed it to everyone who doesn't hate reading a lot for hours and hours
sudden torrent
I still have to grab Hypnospace Outlaw
the game looks like my thing, but I keep grabbing it on the sale.
hasty kernel
Well the catch with Disco Elysium is also that its very intelligently written
To the point where its hard to follow along at times
sudden torrent
oh yeah playing Disco Elysium was sure something. Mean I think I have gotten everything, it may be written sophisticated but I think most stuff is easily understandable if well you are mature enough to read into things and such.
hasty kernel
It is understandable, but its exhausting
noble solstice
I feel like I need a lot of concentration sometimes to keep track of everything
sharp glade
raven harbor
fringe sparrow
Just listened to DMC4 soundtrack, it went randomly through Transistor, bastion, dead cells, zelda and now hollow knight... Spotify know what i like huh
fervent zenith
I love how heavy and flowery the language in Disco Elysium is.
silver maple
Has anyone here played Kind Words? Does it work as well as you hoped?
tardy anchor
ive used it! i think its sweet! ive only seen people using it correctly, myself :>
silver maple
hm, might pick it up then, thanks
autumn pasture
kind words is very nice!
nocturne crypt
tardy ore
@nocturne crypt I mean, any investment for a pun is good
odd grove
Man i'm feeling really mad
serene tulip
Someone just pointed out to me that centrifuges un-stir things and I am entirely too shaken by this revelation.
tropic garden
shaken, but not stirred
tardy ore
Unscrambled eggs
autumn pasture
......my god centrifuged eggs
tardy ore
The sharpest tofu knife in the world.
Centrifuged tofu
https://youtu.be/JKi85QNr7zo Meanwhile. Happy Valentine's Day!
north hamlet
tardy ore
sand nacelle
queen summit
as it's the off-topic channel, i believe everything here is relevant
faint panther
@sudden torrent I played and beat HLD, but after the first area I ran into a hard wall so I grabbed an item map and ground that out.
tardy ore
Speaking of grind...
hrgh, Ori and the Blind Forest on hard is kicking my ass
I didn't expect it to, but the opening sequence where you functionally get oneshot by everything doing double damage is... oof
Pretty sure it's reasonable after the first couple hours, except for that bloody flooded tree which is never going to be reasonable unless they nerfed it hard
tardy ore
fringe sparrow
In Hollow Knight I played on switch with full map opened on 27 inch pc screen.
I just had no F.. Idea where to go
In ori I think I was doing fine since start to finish
fringe sparrow
Keep saving it
Take a perk to heal health when you do it as well
Next ori will be harder, there will not be saving where ever we want
I'm hyped btw 13 March
dapper rivet
I can’t post images here, I wanted to post a meme :/
somber ferry
ori's coming out next month too? dang, everything's coming out in march, huh
dapper rivet
It’s semi related to hades
autumn pasture
you can post images, you just need to post a link
hexed hollow
yeah ori 2 comes out march 11
serene tulip
Will y'all be my valentines?
autumn pasture
sure, friend
wide falcon
ouch
autumn pasture
dhfshdjfshjfd that's not an ouch
i was being friendly
friend valentines are real, don't you remember grade school
wide falcon
ah
tranquil bay
wow guys zagreus looks different https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357344472880644118/678066855826554890/20200214202436_1.jpg
wide falcon
what are your options?
serene tulip
many
wide falcon
is warframe one of them?
serene tulip
I didn't like it when I tried it
wide falcon
oh well, dead cells?
autumn pasture
hollow knight or katana zero
blissful charm
bastion
autumn pasture
that too
faint panther
Hyper Light Drifter.
sudden torrent
beat HLD deathless.
faint panther
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.
sudden torrent
though actually don't try, I think that one was made if you are extremely bored and NG+ wasn't enough
since
who in their right mind beats the game deathless fair
faint panther
People who are really good at video games and appreciate the work of art that is Hyper Light Drifter?
sudden torrent
yes them
faint panther
It might not stay in my top 10 favorites but it's probably on my "objective" top ten list.
sudden torrent
but it's like very few of them though, which is like congrats to them, but I defiantly won't be able to do it fair. I lack the time to practice the game to such extreme.
And yeah same honestly, I view it quite well as objectively good game, minus the fact they have a collectables achievement for all gearbits.
faint panther
I've only ever completed the achievements for one game (Armored Core 4, required no collectible hunting), so I've never been bothered by completionism being gated by that, but I get your frustration.
sudden torrent
Honestly I have very few games that I have 100%, but if I do so, it means the games really mean something to me honestly, they definitely deserved my time. But yeah some HLD achievements maybe go way extreme for me at least.
I really wanted to 100% Kero Blaster, but the game really gets difficult on second NG+
tardy ore
@tranquil bay Is that Warriors Orochi 4?
tardy ore
Nice
tranquil bay
honestly surprised anyone recognized it
tardy ore
Long time Warriors fan
tardy ore
faint panther
cute 😭
fervent zenith
@autumn pasture
The Talos Principle
Code Vein
Tower Hunter Erza Trial
Eliza
Crystar
The Vagrant
Assasin Creed Chronicles China
Zanki Zero Last Begining
Kingdom Come
autumn pasture
hm.......i say the talos principle, because my brother recommends it
fervent zenith
o:
serene tulip
I loved the Talos Principle on its first play.
faint panther
dead in vinland was a pain imho, you'll know whether you'll love or hate it within the first 30mns though so that's a least a positive of sorts
autumn pasture
what Shouldn't you cut with it
upbeat scroll
Aren't laser cutters for wood?
serene tulip
not this bad boy
1030nm 4500W peak power
the 1030nm means its good at pretty much only metals
sudden torrent
attach it to the shi- oh wait this isn't FTL
serene tulip
doesn't quite have the range
north hamlet
How about making one of those fancy lightbox things with the silhouettes in the front
Or a really nice dice roller
fervent zenith
I loved FTL
Shame Into The Breach didn't live for me to expetations in comparison
nova pilot
What were your expectations for Into the Breach!?
I thought it was amazing, different from FTL but still very true to the Subset name
faint panther
I never got Into The Breach, though I loved FTL.
sudden torrent
I looked at gameplay of ITB, but yeah, it kind of was too much of a puzzle than a grand scheme strategy with its own quirks
old aspen
I think I liked ITB more than FTL, though both are very good games
ITB also happens to be one of the few games I got all the achievements for. Usually I wont bother 100% anything
fervent zenith
Doesn't help half of the games the achievements are either useless pad or things you would have gotten anyways during normal PT
nova pilot
Not for the more advanced squads you unlock
There's definitely some pretty strange squads with some fun achievos
serene tulip
Itb just wasn't as engaging as ftl. Not as much writing or interaction.
copper lichen
ITB fixed the one issue with FTL
namely too much RNG
maybe it's just me being me and everytime I see RNG I can't help but yell at it like an old man
also completely off topic
the new Rainbow Six Siege season
faint panther
Ooh, then I should get ITB. FTL and to a greater extent, frankly, Isaac got a little unwinnable if you didn't have God Mode on tap like players like BrainTM do.
wide falcon
you guys heard of Apotheon?
autumn pasture
i've heard of it, is it much good?
wide falcon
A 9/10 on Steam
A 78% on Metacritic
And a 94% on Google
autumn pasture
i was asking more if you'd played and enjoyed it
copper lichen
In ITB the only part that is RNG are map generation (which is good), prize reward (with difficulty increase for missions with better prizes), and shops item (which is 1/RNG, 2/generally you have better uses that is not based on RNG using currency and 3/the stock loadouts are generally good enough to beat the game with a few upgrades.)
and also if I am correct the two core items, a literal power core which you use to upgrade your mechs and weapons is garuanteed to show up in shops, plus the repair for your grid hp
raven harbor
Yeah while FTL is absurdly good, I think ITB is a more finely-tuned game and is better for it
wide falcon
Haven't played it lol
faint panther
Who else is at least 25 years old, regularly consumes alcohol, but approaches a 10 mil shot of Robitussin like it's the devil's liquor itself?
autumn pasture
to be fair, cough syrup is the devil's liquor itself
faint panther
It's doing wonders but my goodness it's practically lingering.
Tequila isn't this bad.
somber ferry
tequila’s p good
i don’t really drink a lot of straight up liquor tho. mostly just wine and mixed drinks lol
i’m weenie hut jr.
tardy ore
I can't stand the majority of liquor that isn't super sweet like dessert wine.
But I like the taste of cough syrup.
And that stupid fake orange flavor.
:V
autumn pasture
are you sure your name isn't on a federal watchlist somewhere
people who like cough syrup
(jokes)
tardy ore
I am the Food Heretic
tardy ore
Yeet
north hamlet
the tastiest medicine i've ever had is the children's panadol syrup with the orange flavour
tardy ore
Ayy
north hamlet
strangely sherbert like but with a bitter aftertaste
tardy ore
I see you're a dragon of culture
north hamlet
👍
the other flavours are certainly less pleasant, but i've never had problems downing medicine
autumn pasture
ugh, sometimes i retch trying to get down cold medicine
north hamlet
the powdered ones that you mix into water are pretty intense
autumn pasture
i like those better than the syrup
some of those aren't bad
there's one i take mixed with hot water and it's not the worst thing in the world
serene tulip
Wolcen really makes me wish for a Torchlight 3
hasty kernel
Aren't we getting Torchlight 3?
faint panther
yup
was gonna be an mmo but they changed their minds
pretty sure it’s out this year too
deft comet
continuing a discussion from hades discussion, what the christians did to greek knowledge was preserve it. The dark ages were caused by germanic and steppe nomad invasions,not religion.
If it hadn't been for the christian monks, it's likely that the dark ages that started around 400 AD would have been a collapse like what we saw in the bronze ages where people lost written language entirely
dense wren
they did changed a lot of way
like making them extremely CHASISTY
so you wont get the original flavor
deft comet
I don't mean to be rude, but could you rephrase that thought
I can't understand what you're trying to say
dense wren
for example, Aphrodite has another epithet that is more of a motherly love type rather than the usual amor type
deft comet
I thought mother's love was Hera's area
dense wren
which is suspiciously christian work since it is alot parallel to Mother (i forgot the name)
Nope
there is another one
deft comet
...You mean Mary?
dense wren
Yeah mary
deft comet
where are you from
dense wren
Japan
deft comet
ah, okay that's fair
dense wren
ok the epithet is called Ourania
its heavenly love
so its not exactly the sexy kind
Pandemos (the all the folk) is the sexy kind
deft comet
yes
dense wren
also pandemos aphrodite is the one we know
deft comet
And if we're talking epithets, one of Aphrodite's titles translates to "She of the beautiful buttocks"
dense wren
the sexy, sleep around, extreme salty if ppl dont make love
deft comet
to be fair, that's aphrodite in most of the stories and myths
dense wren
yeah ourania is nothing like that
deft comet
Pygmalion+Galatea, the Iliad, debatably Cupid and Psyche
dense wren
again, no jealousy involved in a heavenly loved
deft comet
It mustn't have been a very popular aspect of the goddess, given that it doesn't come up in any of the myths that we still have
dense wren
Yep
thats why some people think its probably christian's work
since a lot of their version involves a lot of no sexy mode
even tho they literally draw nudes on their paintings 
deft comet
funny story about that
at certain points, people actually painted over the nude figures on the sistene chapel to make them decent
dense wren
Huh
deft comet
At the time, Michelangelo's nude paintings on the ceiling were seen as....I guess risque, is about the right level for it
gaunt valley
Too avantgarde for a catholic church in full counterreformatory swing.
dense wren
Michelangelo: i dont get paid often
deft comet
people raised an eyebrow, but it was difficult to impeach Michelangelo's morals because he was an obviously very religious guy
dense wren
Also Michelangelo: yeah lets paint them naked to piss the pope off topkek
deft comet
no, nothing like that
gaunt valley
and he was gay afaik
deft comet
ehhhh
deft comet
queer theory is frankly the least interesting thing you can do in biography
like, it's necessary in some cases, obviously
dense wren
idk but at some point it might turn into very intoxicating
like just assume everybody is gay
deft comet
Baldwin II was noted as struggling with homosexual urges by contemporaries, Oscar Wile went to prison for it
gaunt valley
@dense wren There is historical evidence for him being gay.
dense wren
sure its fun to imagine "insert fiction god here" to be gay but again its odd
if you make it too often
deft comet
that's exactly what has happened in queer theory, fortunately that fad is largely over and there is a modicum of actual academic rigor involved in that sort of thing these days
dense wren
also im ultra gay for apollo so shush
deft comet
Apollo would probably bang anything tbqh
Ganymede may possibly be an example of the eromenos archetype
dense wren
also if you date apollo you have 10% innate chance to die
tardy ore
lmao, how
gaunt valley
@dense wren
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s15013-015-0775-y
This is the best source (scientific publisher) I found so far, although only in German.
So far meaning in a short search.
dense wren
@tardy ore refer to every single lover he dated has either run away from him due to the weird curse of them die somehow also turns into flora by apollo because they died in some ways that either is from jealousy of others or straight up T H E P R O P E C H Y
deft comet
that kind of happens to the lovers of the gods
srsly does it work out for anybody at all
dense wren
not happening to Poseidon's lover
deft comet
which one would that be, the gorgons he metoo'd in a temple?
dense wren
Nah
deft comet
I actually tend to be skeptical of people who read that as rape, alot of old cultures had a much thinner line between assault and seduction
gaunt valley
Well, the line is still blurry today.
dense wren
its Nerites
@deft comet its because they read the salty poet edition
yknow that guy who got exiled by roman emperor
he rewrite the gods as being some of the most selfish being
dense wren
its Ovid
deft comet
oh him
dense wren
there goes your $2000
deft comet
tch, well
wheel of fortune is a better show
I should read the metamorphoses
but right now I should go to bed XD
gaunt valley
Being exiled is such a good source for inspiration, you should try it sometime.
Nighty.
dense wren
Well its time for the night show of Fade trying to sarcastically mock the story that happened thousand years ago
first episode
gaunt valley
@dense wren Sorry, you don't have to answer, but where in Japan are you from?
dense wren
Hokkaido island
dense wren
Hakodate
gaunt valley
I have to say though, you're an odd one (not in a negative sense). Most Japanese I know barely speak English and even fewer play PC games.
dense wren
Im not a real Japanese its just happened that half of my family is Japanese and I moved there after 10 for a good 8 years
also Japanese can play PC games
dense wren
ehhh not really? I mean i know quite a handful of them are pretty epic on Overwatch
yeah im hafu
gaunt valley
i don't say they don't
dense wren
god i wish there is a word that is better than the word that literally means half
meanwhile the translation for mixed blood has been degratory
gaunt valley
mixed heritage?
dense wren
we do have the term for it
gaunt valley
you mean the English or Japanese?
gaunt valley
stiff?
dense wren
Nah
straight up degratory or discrimination
but its been better
also i like how some of you guys really loved the way native-japanese speaks engrish
some comes with a mocking way
gaunt valley
I hated it.
gaunt valley
I feld so bad because the teacher apparently changed the seminar into English and some students were really struggling.
i felt bad for them.
I could not follow their speeches at all.
dense wren
hold up are you japanese as well
gaunt valley
No. But I lived there for a year.
gaunt valley
Exactemento.
But I wasn't aware of the discrimination against hafus... the (two) hafus I talked to so far were rather positive about their reception there.
dense wren
its mostly the politic manipulation
the normal folks here does not really care
they just happy to have more people here
but the old people who cared about politics have higher chance of grow a thorn armor against you
gaunt valley
oh, I read about it
something something immigrants having lower IQ babies or such nonsense
dense wren
its just the politicians are salty
I feel pretty great with my japanese friends here
they also admired me for being able to assist them with English
so yeah its clear the problem only happens in the older generation
also with what Logan did really does not help
gaunt valley
The only time I experienced discrimination was when we were a group of Japanese and foreign students returning from Yodogawa hanabi in the train and everyone was talking (as the festive mood still stuck with ppl) but some ojiisan just yells at us to not speak English so noisily.
And we weren't louder than the rest.
dense wren
yeaaaaa
if you are a dirt in their eye they will always see it even though its just a speck
japan society really needs a wake up call just like every country out there
gaunt valley
I think the younger generation is already on a good way.
dense wren
hopefully
but older generation generally loooves the guilt trip
and make sure the newer gen will follow their footsteps
gaunt valley
I had a very warm reception there, even as an openly homosexual foreigner.
dense wren
anyway i feel like it could get us banananed for talking about politics yeah?
gaunt valley
Do the rules prohibit politics?
dense wren
im not sure
gaunt valley
I dunno, this is more social issues/ life issues in general.
Shall the mods decide whether they deem it too political or not.
dense wren
@cedar rock sorry to bother you giorno giovanna but is it okay to talk about this
cedar rock
Politics are not inherently against the rules here, so long as everyone acts respectful to others and are not inflammatory.
cedar rock
sure thing!
dense wren
also kinda related to prove that normal folks really does not care about immigrant and xenophobic stuff
jojo part 5 and 6 is probably the best received parts in japan
gaunt valley
Didn't watch JoJo. so...
dense wren
part 5 is italy based
part 6 is america based
sooo yeah
part 7 is amazing too i must say
part 7 is cowboy amurica
gaunt valley
I don't know how you get from xenophobia to JoJo...
Because, again, I did not watch it.
cedar rock
yea, the american reception to part 6 weirdly seems worse than the japanese reception
I have a feeling it will change when it gets animated
dense wren
tbh its the story that hurts the plot
even I feel like im reading some bible type from all these unique but too complicated power description for a light reading media
and you have anasui, explaining a stand for 5 pages
standing there
tbh i think thats why part 7 is not a continuation of part 6 rather an alt universe so they can reuse the power in a simpler but more specific way than part 3
part 3 stand are vague
and most of them can be powerful since they arent restricted by further stand's power limitation
tardy ore
Everything is a Jojo reference :^)
vivid ridge
Never actually read much of part 6
I kinda liked the campiness of part 5 and those before it though
mystic nymph
Part 6 is my personal least favorite but it was still a really fun read, can’t wait for it to get animated
Jolyne’s also a cool protagonist
sudden torrent
I read it into til one part and didn't finish it since I didn't manage time well enough with ut
mystic nymph
And stone free is an interesting ability that makes for some really fun fights, it also isn’t broken as all living hell like the other protagonist stands
sudden torrent
What I have been told starting with part 6 the stands are more commonly go beyond simply being a fighting stand
vivid ridge
I haven't caught up with jojolion since 2014
And my body has rejected anime and manga for a few years now
dense wren
stone free is pretty weak
not sure why
@sudden torrent Araki is exploring some more but again with so many stands before part 6 its pretty sure the inspo well is running dry
but again part 7 has some more tool stand such as cream starter
and its epic you dont see them often
i wish suit stand will be a thing again in part 8
sudden torrent
I really need get back to reading part 6 but I forgot what I was using for that and on what page I stooped.
dense wren
yep thats how forgetful part 6 is
vivid ridge
Yeah they get pretty weird
dense wren
since some of them are just straight up too complicated
vivid ridge
Cause they kinda have to be
dense wren
we dont need you to explain 6 pages of how this stupid compass work annasui come by and help