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copper lark
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eureka pyros is a pvp thing isnt it :/

honest glade
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No. It's... hard to explain what it is.

copper lark
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oh ,,, the wikis lie,,

honest glade
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It's an instanced place where you level up on a completely separate system.

copper lark
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i want the form and function hairstyle rooCry

honest glade
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The whole point of it was for legendary/artifact gear.

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I think the overall impression was that most Eastern players either liked it or were indifferent, because they like mindless grinding over in the East.

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Most Western players haaaate it.

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I also hate it, because it reminds me of all the worst parts of FF11.

copper lark
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oof

kindred delta
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Y'sh gets a lot of love from me because of her roasting of "Little Sun" in 4.X

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I mostly did raiding, though I wasn't hardcore to do PUGs.

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I mostly stuck around Alliance or the rare raid where I could help with clearing content that wasn't Savage.

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Shin-chan EX was a right pain in the you-know-what.

radiant lynx
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old but gold

kindred delta
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Indeed.

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But I think my least favorite part about XIV is how much of a slog it can be to get iLVL stuff raised along with doing multiple job class levelling as an aside.

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(Getting my PLD levelled while my DRG sat at 70 kind of was hard to adjust since I'm REALLY not good at tanking.)

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iLVL stuff makes me turn redder than Mr. Krabs' body.

hasty kernel
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Thats most MMOs for ya, unfortunately

kindred delta
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Yeah, but the grind in XIV is probably what got me to drop it for a bit.

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Plus I also don't like that iLVL locks story progression too.

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So imagine my frustration with going through a patch and not being able to finish the patch's storyline because of my iLVL being low.

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Now THAT made me angry.

hasty kernel
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Thats dumb

kindred delta
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Especially considering I'd been micromanaging a lot of my gear slowly.

hasty kernel
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Though I think most MMOs also do that unfortunately

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Its the dreaded gear treadmill

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The gear dreadmill

kindred delta
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Yeeeeep.

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That's why I refuse to raid or go into dungeons because it's a slog.

hasty kernel
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Which GW2 doesnt have, which is why GW2 is great

kindred delta
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XIV is a bit more forgiving.

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Though it really sucks when you can't get the gear piece you wanted.

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looks at the Ivalice Raid

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starts shaking

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Rabanastreeeeeeeeeeeee

hasty kernel
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Imagine an MMO without levelling or gear

analog spear
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Destiny 2 is the closest thing to an mmo I will play

serene tulip
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There are custom RP servers without leveling or gear

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but, y'know, you have to do that whole RP thing

hasty kernel
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Right but I dont want that either

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Actually, maybe keep some of the gear?

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I just want an experience where you dont have to basically work on the game to be able to eventually enjoy it

serene tulip
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Heroes of the Storm:Mobas::???:MMOs

serene tulip
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turns out Alphinaud is gay

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fancy

copper lark
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GFDVGHKFG

analog spear
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I love hots

ionic viper
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what a fancy little boy

copper lark
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i was saying bless u bc

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hraesvelgr sounds like a sneeze

kindred delta
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I like Alisae a lot.

hasty kernel
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Idk, sounds like normal danish to me

copper lark
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i havent seen enough of her but she saved me from the sultana's chambers cutscenes

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so i love her

kindred delta
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Alphy's next to her too but my favorite of all XIV characters is that magnificent guy named Raubahn.

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Raubahn is a god among men.

copper lark
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i love him

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but

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alphi is higher than him for me GWqlabsMmSad

kindred delta
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Also find it funny that his adopted son is voiced by Shulk in the new dub cast.

hasty kernel
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Huh

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Hraesvelgr is actually danish

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That was a good guess

copper lark
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:O

kindred delta
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all of the current dub cast in XIV worked on Xenoblade 1 and 2.

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If my memory serves me correctly on the English-side of things.

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All the while the Japanese cast is just as big.

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(I'm boring and I play XIV in Japanese.)

hasty kernel
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Oh yeah, the JRPG Im playing has a character voiced by the same guy who voices the human male commander in GW2

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Its so weird

kindred delta
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(Thancred's voice in Japanese is to die for.)

hasty kernel
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And I think another character is voiced by either the guy who voices Ezreal or Ekko in league

kindred delta
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I know that the Japanese cast for XIV has a lot of top-billers for most anime or JRPGs.

copper lark
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i had the voice acting on japanese forARR but i love the voicework for heavensward

kindred delta
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Most of them returning from previous FF games too.

hasty kernel
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I was right on the first, but wrong on the second

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Ohhh

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He voices Robin in Teen Titans

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I see

kindred delta
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Japanese Zenos is Yuri Lowell.

hasty kernel
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I do wonder what the next MMO the FFXIV guy is going to make is going to be like

kindred delta
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Well from what I know

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it might not be an MMO.

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might be a mainline game

copper lark
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:O

kindred delta
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but that's neither here nor there.

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since it's mostly rumors

copper lark
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wait-

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is yoshi-p making a new ff game?

kindred delta
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yeah

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He's still the general director / producer of XIV

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but he has roles elsewhere in the company

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like the dude's gone up in the rank and it's unsurprising if he has a handle on the next FF game in a way.

copper lark
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:OO thats so cool!! good for him

hasty kernel
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I heard rumours that its actually a new MMO

kindred delta
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Probably from a producer's role.

hasty kernel
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Since its specifically in the same MMO division

kindred delta
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I think XIV is going to last longer or as long as XI has.

copper lark
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imagine yoko taro making a ff game GWqlabsKek

kindred delta
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Don't think they're gonna do another MMO soon.

hasty kernel
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Its supposedly not an FF MMO

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But rather totally standalone MMO

kindred delta
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Well what other IP could they do?

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They have DQX on one hand.

copper lark
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SE please i dont have the money for another mmo

kindred delta
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which is Japan-only.

hasty kernel
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Could be a New IP

kindred delta
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Could be.

hasty kernel
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Then again, itd probably be a sub-based MMO so, eh

kindred delta
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But for a while I heard that the next project he was overseeing was a console RPG.

copper lark
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UGH I LOVE ALPHIS NEW VOICE

kindred delta
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So who knows, there might be multiple projects he has a hand in.

copper lark
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hes so baby

hasty kernel
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Still kinda wish Riot just made an MMO set in Runeterra

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I wanna hang out with Viktor

kindred delta
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I also heard that due to the success of the Rabanastre / Ivalice-themed raids, there was something about Itsuno coming back for something.

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Might have been for 5.0 since two of the important locales in Ivalice are in 5.0 as part of Eorzea

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Dalmasca and that major area from Vagrant Story were name dropped.

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Though another Ivalice game has always been in my interest.

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Hoping Square-Enix does return to that world at some point while Itsuno's around.

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Because I do want to see something to follow up on Tactics.

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Plus XII Zodiac Age sold very well from what I recall.

hasty kernel
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I just want to see a proper followup to Dissidia

kindred delta
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NT's gotten somewhat better.

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But I agree.

serene tulip
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doot doot

kindred delta
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Honestly speaking? I kind of want to see Square-Enix revisit the idea of a western studio doing something with Ivalice.

hasty kernel
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Im sure it has

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But its still not Dissidia

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It lacks the ludicrous sky battles

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Also all of the good characters

kindred delta
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Well we know the rest of the DLC cast

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most of them are returning from 012

hasty kernel
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Like, just what they did to my boy Exdeath

kindred delta
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I'm more excited for when Gilgamesh returns.

hasty kernel
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Seriously

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How do you take an iconic shield and parry character

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Whose coolest gimmick was the ability to block literally everything

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And make him into a stance character

kindred delta
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I think they went with a different direction for NT on the basis to make it work better for Arcades.

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That's why I feel the gameplay isn't like the original games.

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NT was originally Arcade only before they finally brought it over to PS4 and PC.

hasty kernel
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I know

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Hence why I want a proper continuation

kindred delta
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I feel like the chance of it happening is found more in OO.

hasty kernel
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Even Kefka is less zany

kindred delta
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OO is actually a bit better with the story at least.

hasty kernel
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The only fun move they kept was his switching fireball

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OO?

kindred delta
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Opera Omnia

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the mobile game

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it actually has better story and character interactions

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stuff's really good

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plus almost every playable is in the game from each games are in

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also includes the CC main protags, WoFF protags and a few others from spin-offs

hasty kernel
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Looks like a normal RPG, except on mobile

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Not my thing tbh

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But yeah, after waiting so long after the masterpieces that Dissidia, and Dissidia 012 were

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Dissidia NT was a massive disappointment

kindred delta
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also they just added Ignis from XV as of late

hasty kernel
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Oh you mean in OO

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I was almost ready to forgive NT

kindred delta
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I think NT only got my respect when they gave me another XI rep.

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XI is probably the game that gets a lot more love in OO than in NT

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because OO gives you Lion, Lillisette and Aphmau in addition to Prishe and Shantotto

hasty kernel
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Look if Dissidia NT had Ignis Id probably forgive it

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But it doesnt

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Smh

kindred delta
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I think we're gonna get ||Ardyn|| at some point.

hasty kernel
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But yeah, give us Dissidia 006

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With FFXV guys

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Noctis, Ignis and Ardyn would work

kindred delta
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Because now only XV, T and T-0 are missing villains iirc.

hasty kernel
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Though Im not sure what Ardyns moveset would be, exactly

kindred delta
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XV's villain should probably be Ravus imo.

hasty kernel
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Ehhhh

kindred delta
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if not Ravus than Aranea to throw people a bone

hasty kernel
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Ehhhhhhhhhh

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Neither of them are really antagonists

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Theyre more side characters

kindred delta
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I wouldn't mind them.

hasty kernel
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I mean theyd be alright, but Noctis and Ardyn are set

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And of the rest, Ignis is the only correct choice

kindred delta
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I think Tactics' villain is one I'm unsure of

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because I dunno how they'd handle Ultima / Altima.

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Delita would be a nice secondary rep from Tactics, but he isn't a villain.

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(Then again, neither is Snow and yet he gets his LR-self.)

hasty kernel
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Hm

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What other mainline FF game was there where the main character wasnt the prettiest

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I guess FF7

kindred delta
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T-0's villain is probably the one where I'm very confused on who it'd be.

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Because I really don't know who they'd pick.

copper lark
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Wrong, cloud is gorgeous

hasty kernel
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Oh and 2, because Firion is not pretty

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I mean yes he is

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But Vincent exists

copper lark
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you think vincent > cloud?

kindred delta
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Zack was datamined with Tifa for a S2 of NT.

hasty kernel
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Yes

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Easily

copper lark
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Oof

hasty kernel
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Even with his edgelord costume

copper lark
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tbh,, i have a model of vincent so

hasty kernel
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He is so pretty

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But yeah, Cloud and Firion

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Who else

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Bartz I guess?

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Though its unfair being in the same game as Gilgamesh

kindred delta
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Honestly speaking the best looking FF character will be Balthier.

hasty kernel
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Very strange way of spelling "Ignis"

kindred delta
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Always and forever will be. No exceptions.

Unless your name is Ignis.

hasty kernel
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I honestly love how Ignis became such a breakout character

copper lark
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balthier is voiced by gideon emery so

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ill take it

kindred delta
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I've always taken a fancy to Balthier, honestly. He's that kind of guy I love.

copper lark
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i dont like ignis ,, oops

hasty kernel
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Excuse you

copper lark
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rooFeels i wish i could have liked him more

kindred delta
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My favorite of the XV boys is Prompto.

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But that's because I want to give that boy a hug.

hasty kernel
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I liked Prompto the least tbh

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I hear his DLC might change that

kindred delta
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It does.

hasty kernel
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But I never played it so, whoops

copper lark
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promptos dlc is. wonderful

hasty kernel
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Actually no

copper lark
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hes my fav chocobro but

hasty kernel
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I liked Gladio the least

copper lark
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aranea and iris out here doing bits for me

hasty kernel
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As a character he isnt terribly interesting

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Which is why he is shirtless and ripped probably

kindred delta
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I'd say my favorite character from XV is Ardyn himself.

sly stump
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I like Gladio the most, I'm a sucker for protector types

copper lark
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ech

hasty kernel
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Hm

kindred delta
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I like Ardyn because there's something about his personality.

copper lark
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why do people like ardyn i Dont understand

sly stump
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Also his wing tattoos are cool as hell

copper lark
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disgusting man

hasty kernel
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Id say my order is Ignis, Ardyn, and maybe Iris

sly stump
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Ardyn ... greasy and mean

hasty kernel
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Iris or Noctis himself

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Ardyn is just a cool and effective villain

copper lark
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arDYN IS GREASY TY

kindred delta
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Ardyn's a very effective villain.

copper lark
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im so mad he got a playable dlc but aranea and luna didnt?

kindred delta
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He also has a funny moment or two during his DLC.

hasty kernel
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He is just evil enough to not have any moral ambiguity, but still sympathetic enough to not be cartoonish

copper lark
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i dont wanna play a whole dlc with him

hasty kernel
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Plus his english VO is ๐Ÿ‘Œ

kindred delta
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Darin de Paul is a great VA.

honest glade
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God, I can't stand FF15. Those annoying characters, that clunky gameplay, those boring maps, that lame story, an entire movie dedicated to sheer exposition... The only saving grace is the soundtrack, which, I mean... It's a FF game. The score is always going to be fire.

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The rest? SE can keep it, baby.

kindred delta
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meanwhile his Japanese voice is Axel's voice actor.

hasty kernel
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Im just a sucker for Affable Villains

sly stump
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Now is maybe the time to say I have never played an FF game X) only watched chunks of XV over my friend's shoulder

hasty kernel
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Hold up, annoying characters

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This is an even worse take than not liking Ignis tbh

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Eh, thats fair

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JRPGs are a slog

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Not for everyone

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I still dont know why I play them sometimes

copper lark
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WAIT I HAVE A BALTHIER MODEL TOO I FORGOT

hasty kernel
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Actually, no, I do, the characters

kindred delta
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Honestly, I'd like if the next mainline returned to a world more akin to FFIX.

hasty kernel
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Hm

honest glade
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I'm super salty about FF15. I wanted for the game for years because I thought it sounded so cool, then it came out and it was trash to me.

sly stump
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I think I would like it if I played it, I was just in the middle of an FO4 kick, and I don't have a PS4 of my own so /shrug

kindred delta
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Rather than the modern fantasy.

honest glade
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So SE can keep it.

hasty kernel
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Honestly

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I think FF has long outgrown the old-school fantasy

kindred delta
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Doubt.

hasty kernel
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There really wasnt that much to be done with it, and Id argue theyve done all they could already

copper lark
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lol kismet if u liked what nomura presented for ffxiii vs then GWqlabsSpyEyes wait for the next kh

kindred delta
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Look at XIV.

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It's still got its roots in old-school fantasy.

hasty kernel
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Thats ... still closer to FF6 than FF9

honest glade
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Nomura is a hack to me at this point.

hasty kernel
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I think?

kindred delta
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It has elements of 9 as part of the world.

copper lark
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OOF

hasty kernel
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Ive not really played 9

copper lark
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ive basically sold my soul to nomura, its an issue

hasty kernel
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Other than briefly at a friends place

honest glade
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I enjoyed KH1&2. Everything else he's touched? Nah, I'm not here for it.

kindred delta
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In-fact the big airship that takes you to Rabanasty in XIV is from 9.

honest glade
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I don't think KH3 is bad, per se. But it just didn't impress me.

kindred delta
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Ozma's a boss in XIV too.

hasty kernel
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Like, not full modern fantasy like FFXV? Yeah thats fair

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Though honestly, I want more actual modern fantasy

honest glade
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And that ending was straight butt. Even by typical ridiculous KH plot standards.

copper lark
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oh no kh3 was awful

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but i enjoyed it

hasty kernel
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FFXV was kind of a compromise

kindred delta
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Honestly, I played KH3 and I think it was a perfectly fine game. Story-wise is a different perspective.

hasty kernel
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I just want full-on modern cities with fantasy elements

kindred delta
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I did enjoy some moments of the story.

hasty kernel
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Make it shadowrun but less depressing

kindred delta
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But I can't say that it was entirely great.

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I grew up with KH.

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So I was in this ride from the very beginning.

hasty kernel
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Like there is so much to be done there, and so much cool stuff unexplored

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But maybe thats too modern for Final Fantasy

honest glade
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I think the "moment to moment" bits in the story were good, but the overarching narrative and how it wrapped up? Nope.

hasty kernel
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FF7 was probably as modern as its gonna get

honest glade
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As for gameplay... I guess if you like your games super easy it was fine?

kindred delta
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I'd like a Final Fantasy game more along the lines of the Atelier games with style and world look.

copper lark
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try critical

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i wanna play the atelier games so baaaad rooCry

hasty kernel
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Atelier games?

honest glade
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Nah, I'm not going back through that mess. I have a thing where I don't really like replaying games unless I consider them above and beyond exceptional.

kindred delta
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Atelier Escha and Logy really makes me appreciate the artist.

honest glade
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And KH3 is not that. Not even critical is worth it.

kindred delta
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That's a bit of an elitist approach, but alright Kis.

copper lark
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i mean,, i dont like replaying games bc i get bored

hasty kernel
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Eh, thats fair

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I rarely replay games

kindred delta
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I replay a lot of games because I see the value in not only playing but also to analyze them.

hasty kernel
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I think there are only 10 games total Ive replayed

copper lark
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the only game ive replayed ,,, uhh

hasty kernel
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Every SGG game

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AA1-3 (since they were rereleased)

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Ghost Trick

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MGRR

honest glade
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Let me rephrase. I don't like replaying games because... I've experienced it once. I don't see why I should spend time going through something I've already seen again. I could spend that time playing another game I've never touched before. But I break that exception if something about the game truly stands out to me.

hasty kernel
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And Persona 3 and 5

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MGRR is probably the outlier in that list tbh

copper lark
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ohh ive replayed all the kh and AA games but like,,, theres been whole years inbetween replays

honest glade
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If I was getting paid to review a game, it'd be different. But I'm not, and I don't have endless hours in a day. So I'm conservative with my time.

hasty kernel
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Mainly because its not a super-high quality narrative

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Even if it was bloody hilarious

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But damn, slicing up everything is so fun

kindred delta
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I've replayed:
almost every Tales of game up to this point.
Octopath Traveler twice.
Chrono Trigger multiple times.
FFXII probably three times.
DMC3, 4SE and I'm going to return to 5 at some point.
Persona 3, 4 and 5 (4 due to Golden)
Dragon Quest 3 and 5 (both equally)

there's more but these are a handful I can bring mention to.

hasty kernel
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I might have to replay TOCS II when 3 comes out later this year

kindred delta
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OH RIGHT

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TRAILS

hasty kernel
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Because Im sure Ive forgotten elements of it

kindred delta
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thank you for reminding me UNO

hasty kernel
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Huh?

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Ovven

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Just go with Ovven

kindred delta
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aight

hasty kernel
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Most servers have multiple UNOs, so it gets confusing

kindred delta
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Ovven thanks for reminding me about Trails.

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Because I started revisiting ToTS1-3

hasty kernel
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Ah

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Ive never actually played the sky series

honest glade
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To me, an elitist mentality would be not even bothering to TRY a game because I have a preconceived notion of it that's "beneath me". Simply choosing to spend my time on what I think is cool and/or what I know I'll enjoy is just me... playing what I like (or will potentially like) to play. Those are two different things.

hasty kernel
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I only got on a JRPG binge because of Crosscode (go buy it, its an amazing game)

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And the sky series was just a bit too dated by that point

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Still, played TOCS I and II

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The first one was honestly really weak, mainly just setup and good lord the characters were unbelievably stupid at times

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The second one was actually really good

kindred delta
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My first JRPG (or rather Tactical RPG) was Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.

full socket
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Whoa, that's a really niche game to be your first!

kindred delta
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I have Japanese cousins so playing that game was a bit of a convenient spot in my younger years.

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I was probably the one kid who got to play a lot of games we never got due to cousins visiting.

hasty kernel
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My first proper JRPG was uh, hm

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FF4 I think

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I still got a softspot for it

kindred delta
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Though as a result of the one cousin, he also got me into Anime.

hasty kernel
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Ah

kindred delta
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my first major anime was G Gundam.

hasty kernel
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Guess everything comes with a downside

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Mine was Digimon Adventure I think

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So more mainstream

kindred delta
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I think over the years I kind of started looking into more niche things to find what makes them enjoyable.

copper lark
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iโ€™m gonna say it

honest glade
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My first JRPG was Legend of Legaia. It, uh... didn't age well. And it's sequel is awful.

copper lark
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digimon > pokemon

honest glade
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But I never finished it.

full socket
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I think my first JRPG was Pokemon, if that counts? actually wait, no, I think I might've played a Dragon Quest/Warrior game first? It's all kinda fuzzy. something on the Gameboy, probably.

kindred delta
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It's how I got into that tangled web of a universe written by Kinoki Nasu.

hasty kernel
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You are correct Syd

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Looks like there is something we do agree on

copper lark
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i see youโ€™re a man of culture uno

full socket
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Also at least in terms of anime yeah, Digimon > Pokemon. haven't played the Digimon games enough to have an opinion on them.

honest glade
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The first JRPG I finished was Legend of Dragoon. All 60 hours of it. And that's the game I have to thank for making me a gamer.

hasty kernel
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Ovven, still

kindred delta
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I liked both Pokemon and Digimon.

hasty kernel
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I was never much into Pokemon

copper lark
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oh rooKek sorry

hasty kernel
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The games didnt interest me

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The show was weak

kindred delta
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The game that made me into someone who appreciate games as an art form was probably Chrono Trigger.

hasty kernel
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Mystery Dungeon is the exception

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I mean, the one that made me appreciate games as an art form was easily Ghost Trick

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Or Transistor

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Im not sure which I played first

kindred delta
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Oh no definitely agreed on with Ghost Trick.

hasty kernel
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I think Ghost Trick

honest glade
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I like both Pokemon and Digimon, but I prefer Digimon overall. It's a little edgier.

kindred delta
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Ghost Trick is really good.

honest glade
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(In a good way.)

kindred delta
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Shame the creator's dog passed away.

hasty kernel
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I prefer Digimon because its a fascinating world with fascinating creatures

kindred delta
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;_;

hasty kernel
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Plus the shows handled darker themes in interesting ways

kindred delta
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Rocket was an adorable lil' Pommy.

hasty kernel
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Wasnt it Missile?

honest glade
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I think the Digimon shows have been superior to Pokemon from the get go... well, maybe everything before the 5th season. 4th is where it started going downhill.

kindred delta
#

my bad

#

Missile

hasty kernel
#

Eh, even at its worst Digimon is better

kindred delta
#

I couldn't remember the name. Excuse my brain fart.

honest glade
#

Pokemon sort of has the game market on lock. But I thought Digimon Dusk/Dawn was fantastic.

hasty kernel
#

But yeah, 4 was a bit of a decline

#

5 was perfectly fine

#

Carried by the main character punching everything

#

Including god, at the end of it

honest glade
#

I disagree when it comes to the 5th season (is that Savers? I don't remember the name) and Xros or whatever it's called where all the kids are younger.

kindred delta
#

punching god

#

reminds me of SMT3

hasty kernel
#

Savers/Data squad, yeah

honest glade
#

My absolute favorite season was Tamers.

hasty kernel
#

Fusion/Xros Wars was mediocre in the first season

#

And bad in the second

honest glade
#

That's the pinnacle for me.

hasty kernel
#

As it should be, its the best

#

And then we got Appli Monsters

#

Which was actually really really good

#

Even though the first 15 or so episodes were slow

honest glade
#

I remember hearing about Appli, but I didn't bother to look into it.

hasty kernel
#

Also the whole punching god thing wasnt a joke

honest glade
#

Speaking of SMT, I hope that Switch title ends up being good.

hasty kernel
#

He literally punches god

honest glade
#

I could really go for another SMT.

hasty kernel
#

I still wish I had someone to play the Digimon Tabletop with

kindred delta
#

2019 release for Japan.

#

That's what I'm betting on.

#

We're supposed to be getting more news for V soon.

#

Though really, the game I'm most excited for coming out of Sega is probably Shin Sakura Wars.

#

and that's in 2020.

honest glade
#

I'd really like for them to go back to something along the lines of Nocturne in terms of aesthetic and theme, or even dark and dismal like Digital Devil Saga, but we'll see.

kindred delta
#

Well the artist who did SMTIV and IVA is leading the art from this point on.

#

So far it seems to be more of his ilk when it comes to the art direction.

#

He did a fantastic job with IVA's demons.

#

Odin from IVA is probably my favorite design of his.

honest glade
#

Rather, by aesthetic I didn't mean character designs/art. I mean more... Erm...

#

"I want it to be dark and edgy."

hasty kernel
#

Atmosphere?

honest glade
#

Yes, that.

kindred delta
#

I think there's certainly a chance it might be, but I dunno.

#

SMTV might be Chaos-themed given how the teaser trailer went.

full socket
#

I only sorta liked the only Sakura Wars game I've played and even THEN I'm hyped for the new one, lol. It's awesome to see an older series come back, and really the reason I was frustrated with the one game I played was the writing, the gameplay was cool.

kindred delta
#

So something more along the lines of Nocturne.

hasty kernel
#

Also not sure how I feel about TCOS III being PS4-only

kindred delta
#

Because each game seems to follow the different routes as a canon

hasty kernel
#

Different localization team too

kindred delta
#

SMT1 = Neutral
SMT2 = Law
SMT3 = Chaos
SMTIV & IVA = Neutral
SMTV = Chaos(?)

#

if not Chaos then I could see V being from a Law angle to a degree.

#

that teaser that they gave us certainly made me think of Blasted Tokyo from IV a bit.

hasty kernel
#

Maybe go for a 2-dimensional alignment chart

kindred delta
#

If there's one thing I want to know about V.

#

Is if it's the return of the Turn Press System from 3 and 4.

hasty kernel
#

Also I wanna know when FF7 is finally gonna be here

kindred delta
#

or a new system entirely for combat.

hasty kernel
#

Hopefully they can improve it to the current day without losing what the original charming

kindred delta
#

Square-Enix conference in June.

copper lark
#

imo SE has already won E3 but capcom could easilt bring it back to me

hasty kernel
#

Also I swear to god if they dont make Cloud upbeat and sarcastic

#

And instead mopey

kindred delta
#

Capcom announcing an Onimusha reboot would rock my socks off.

hasty kernel
#

I will be nettled

copper lark
#

they arent sticking to the old canon ff7 so like,, ,zack if ur out there come home honey

kindred delta
#

Either a reboot or further rereleases for 2 and 3.

hasty kernel
#

They arent?

#

Or do you mean not sticking to the extra canon outside of the game itself

kindred delta
#

Dawn of Dreams should never be remembered.

copper lark
#

crisis core, advent children and ,, vincents game

#

are irrelevant

kindred delta
#

7R is based on what we know, but it's a new scenario entirely.

hasty kernel
#

Oh ok, thats fine

kindred delta
#

Like think of it as an AU to the original

hasty kernel
#

Dirge of Cerberus was the last one

copper lark
#

ty

hasty kernel
#

I liked Crisis Core, but the other 2 made like no sense

kindred delta
#

DoC is a pile of crap.

hasty kernel
#

So Im fine with that

copper lark
#

@ SE PORT CRISIS CORE COWARDS

hasty kernel
#

Also I really hope they dont weaken the message of the original FF7

#

Lord knows itd be appropriate right about now

kindred delta
#

Honestly speaking, I really want Square-Enix to just bite the bullet and do something with Monolith Software to remake Xenogears as a Switch title.

#

Either that or Bandai-Namco does something with Xenosaga with Nintendo due to KOS-MOS showing up in XBC2.

#

I'm just really excited to see how E3 goes this year given the rumors.

#

Between Capcom, Square and what FROM Software has to offer down to any other titles coming around...certainly will admit that I'm curious to see what games get dropped in our laps this year.

hasty kernel
#

Are Platinum Games showing anything?

kindred delta
#

Probably more Astral Chain

#

maybe Bayo 3

#

maybe whatever else they're working on

copper lark
#

please please capcom

#

AA7

kindred delta
#

I want to see more stuff from Capcom, either that or them announcing something for DMCV.

copper lark
#

or localise miles edgeworth 2

kindred delta
#

AA7 is all but confirmed, but I'd wait until TGS for that j/s.

copper lark
#

or DGS

hasty kernel
#

Agreed on AA7

#

Give Athena some time in the spotlight

#

Let Maya appear more without getting accused for murder again

copper lark
#

BRING KLAVIER BACK!

hasty kernel
#

But Platinum Games had a game called Fall of Babylon that they announced at some point

copper lark
#

bring franny back too

hasty kernel
#

Hopefully we see something about it

#

Franziska, sure

kindred delta
#

Yeah their second Square collab.

hasty kernel
#

And her wife Adrian Andrews

kindred delta
#

that's one I expect them to bring up a bit about.

copper lark
#

wh y does no one like klavier

#

please

#

his story isnt finished

hasty kernel
#

Because he is a fop

copper lark
#

hes wonderful

#

thats what he is

hasty kernel
#

If Ema doesnt like him, I dont like him

copper lark
#

ok i love ema

#

but she likes nahyuta

#

so

#

clearly somethings up there

hasty kernel
#

She ... doesnt?

copper lark
#

look i just want capcom to finish the kristoph story line

hasty kernel
#

I mean, she likes working abroad, but its pretty clearly shown she is rather irritated with him at best

#

I dont know what there is to finish tbh

copper lark
#

oh F

#

i didnt play much of SoJ oops

hasty kernel
#

I hope thats not a spoiler

copper lark
#

uhh kristophs black psyche locks/

#

nah ive already gotten spoilers lmao

#

i know what happens

hasty kernel
#

I mean, they arguably already were revealed

copper lark
#

im just too lazy to play

hasty kernel
#

We just dont break them

copper lark
#

pls,, jsut let me have klavier back

#

NOT KRISPYHP

#

KLAVBIR

#

oops

hasty kernel
#

Only if we get more Maya, and Franziska and Adrian von Karma show up

copper lark
#

i want franziska back

#

so bad

#

her and simon would get along

hasty kernel
#

Honestly

#

I dont think they would

copper lark
#

oh ๐Ÿ‘€

#

they give off similar vibes to me

kindred delta
#

Honestly

hasty kernel
#

Oh this isnt anything ever said

#

But I think their personalities actually kinda clash

kindred delta
#

I want an AA spin-off that's more like LA Noire.

#

or Judgement from the Yakuza guys

copper lark
#

have u,, played investigations

kindred delta
#

it's been a minute

#

I don't remember Investigations.

hasty kernel
#

Yeah that sounds kinda like Investigations 2

kindred delta
#

probably is then

copper lark
#

i have yet to play investigations 2 but ,,, i have the fan-made localisation downloaded

hasty kernel
#

But, anyway, Franziska got a major superiority complex, while Simon has a weird self-depricating side, and a rather odd sense of humour

kindred delta
#

because the last game I played was The Great Ace Attorney.

hasty kernel
#

Theyre similiar in that theyre intimidating, but different in everything else

copper lark
#

hmm,,, yeah i suppose

#

i wanna play DGS,,, but

#

capcom are cowards

hasty kernel
#

I just watched the subbed playthrough

#

I still have to finish DGS2

#

Because the youtube channel that did it originally kinda stopped

#

And there is a series of twitch VODs with live translation, but its harder than just reading it

#

Oh and I forgot the by far most important part of AA7

#

Gumshoe back as the detective

copper lark
#

hes busy as phoenix's chef GWqlabsKek

kindred delta
#

Actually thinking about it.

#

I'd like a Ghost Trick sequel.

hasty kernel
#

Absolutely same

#

I dont know what the story could be

#

But I still want more

#

Plus more jokes about Lynne dying

tardy anchor
#

gt was a perfect game, but another story in the same world would b neat

hasty kernel
#

Yeah

#

Maybe explore the blue country

tardy anchor
#

beauty backstory!!!

kindred delta
#

^

#

Honestly, I kind of want to see another, proper Breath of Fire game.

hasty kernel
#

Oh yeah, since we talked about replaying games earlier

#

I think Crosscode might be the first game where Ill go for a full New Game + run

kindred delta
#

A red-skinned wyrm and girl in blue~โ™ช

rain mortar
#

๐Ÿ‡ท โ„น ๐Ÿ‡ฒ ๐Ÿ‡ช is free on the Epic Store right now! None of you have an excuse for not having this delightful game anymore friendly

olive junco
#

FREE STUFF! YAY!

#

I was debating whether or not I should buy Rime. This sure simplifies the decision.

rain mortar
#

The answer is yes, you should buy it (were it not free)

sharp salmon
#

Someone else hates Epic Games store?

tardy anchor
#

it is a popular opinion, yes

sharp salmon
#

I need Hades in Steam :c

tropic garden
#

It will have a steam release once it's out of early access

sharp salmon
#

I know, but now i can't get the game

sharp grail
#

why not?

upbeat scroll
#

Need me that hades itch release yeahh

sharp salmon
#

Because i buy with "rapipago"(payment method of Argentina) and Epic does not have this, only Paypal and other

#

I do not have Paypal

sharp grail
#

i think you can pay directly with credit card as well, no?

sharp salmon
#

Yes, but i do not have a credit card either

rain mortar
#

You can buy prepaid visas

sharp salmon
#

I think in this option, but i don't know

#

I don't know if i have money for Hades

wicked lagoon
#

That's weird, Rage 2 Collectors Edition, with the physical goods, game, extras, and box sells for like 50 bucks

#

Is that gamers' way of saying they would rather get it on steam? lol

olive junco
#

"Time to wake up Trace...."

#

Just finished Axiom Verge

#

It might have melted my brain a bit

serene tulip
#

Earthbind and poof

#

this is where I'd put :MeepoHiyo: if I had nitro

copper lark
#

hrm,,, the xiv battle changes

quaint thicket
#

Gimmie new ghost trick owo

north hamlet
#

That would be so cool

kindred delta
#

huh

#

speaking of the Atelier games

#

seems like their developer teased a new game today

cosmic vortex
#

Hey @opaque quail send u a media inquirie via dm.
Thanks for your time and best regards

graceful lotus
#

blublubblub

copper lark
#

me when i was little putting my head in my bath water and making bubbles

#

anyone else do that or am i weird

#

im crying bc of ffxiv

#

this is th e sweetest thing anyones ever said

#

alphinaud is my real son

graceful lotus
#

i loved doing that too!! and i liked seeing how long i could hold my breath ahha

copper lark
#

oh thank god ghfjkgdf

graceful lotus
#

i go blubublbublublublub

serene tulip
#

I was of the opinion that everyone did that

graceful lotus
#

dog!! shark dog!!

hasty kernel
#

Is it a Shog, or a Dhark?

#

No wait, I got it

#

Dork

copper lark
#

DO RK

velvet fjord
#

praise dork

copper lark
#

uk government is a shambles atm

hasty kernel
#

Implying it hasnt been for the last 2 years

copper lark
#

youre absolutely right

#

but its gotten worse

#

๐Ÿฆ€ theresa may is gone ๐Ÿฆ€

hasty kernel
#

I heard one of the potential replacements is bloody stupid johnson

copper lark
#

imaGINE

#

i'd have to leave ngl

hasty kernel
#

I was going to say "come to germany"

#

But Merkel is gonna leave soon-ish

#

And thats probably gonna be the same kinda mess

#

And with the SPD squandering everything, the only real left options are the green party (Who are anti-GMO idiots and have a strong anti-vax wing) and the left party (who ... are actually totally fine, they just never get good enough results to have a major impact)

north hamlet
#

I too believe everyone does the bath thing

hasty kernel
#

I dont do it

#

My bath is too small :S

faint panther
#

Only have a shower, kinda hard to blow bubbles in there...

serene tulip
graceful lotus
#

oh big mood

slate acorn
#

Can someone help me? I'm having this very weird and specific problem where in my new keyboard, the spacebar doesn't work if I am pressing the a and w keys together, meaning i can't dash towards the upper left. (it also happens with q and w because i tested with typing, and it's a problem with this keyboard specifically because I use a laptop and I tested with the laptop keyboard).

graceful lotus
#

that is indeed.............a very specific problem.........

#

what kind of keyboard is it?

brittle jetty
#

had a similar problem once, had something to do with the settings

#

was able to fix it

#

but if it's only like that on one keyboard, it sounds like a different thing

#

i think there's some keyboards that are just like that

#

can only use so many keys at once

#

could be wrong

slate acorn
#

the problem is that it's not a roll-over

#

i can use other 3 or more keys combinations just fine

#

it's just the A+W+Space or Q+W+Space (and maybe others that I haven't found)

#

it's so weird

brittle jetty
#

yeah, that sounds kinda weird

slate acorn
#

it's multilaser

#

don't know which one though

#

it literally just says "gamer keyboard" on the box lmao

#

oops sorry

#

thank gosh i got warranty

graceful lotus
#

u can try using a controller in the meantime or something

north hamlet
#

my old keyboard wouldn't take more than three inputs

#

i got a second hand corsair now so it's an improvement

radiant lynx
#

okay question: for what reason do you play Hades?

hexed hollow
#

I assume the main answer will be "because it's fun" don't wanna speak for anyone though

radiant lynx
#

that's a valid answer

#

could you develop why is it fun? as in what you enjoy about it? story, gameplay, etc?

hexed hollow
#

I don't own/play the game so I cannot elaborate and honestly this discussion would be more suitable for #h1-builds-and-combat

radiant lynx
#

fair point

graceful lotus
#

me kill bad guy release serotonin

faint panther
#

1 i will buy any title supergiant games releases as i am a huge fan i love the art and the battle systems and the music residentzag ๐Ÿ‘Œ 2 what ^ said

#

ive only played transistor and hades but i own all but pyre and i plan on getting pyre and the ost asap

graceful lotus
#

pyre is really fun!!

inner lichen
#

pyre's So fun

blissful charm
#

pyre is a good time

graceful lotus
#

but also pyre make me cry

serene tulip
#

bastion made me cry

#

transistor got me close

#

I don't think pyre ever did

#

Bastion: ||Rescuing Zulf tho ๐Ÿ˜ข ๐Ÿ˜ข ๐Ÿ˜ข||

inner lichen
#

yeah that was rly good

#

the first time around playing bastion i was mostly like cool next, but when i replayed it....ouch

serene tulip
#

I've played it three or four times and Bastion: ||I can't leave Zulf ;n;||

blissful charm
#

cried at bastion, almost cried at transistor, didn't cry at pyre

serene tulip
#

I think that someone more skilled than me should do a mashup of Coheed and Cambria's Welcome Home and Transistor's Spine of the World

copper lark
#

cried at all three rooEZ

inner lichen
#

same

hasty kernel
#

For me its similiar, except swap Bastion and Transistor

inner lichen
#

pyre messes me up in a way i cant fully articulate

copper lark
#

IS THAT PETER NUREYEV

hasty kernel
#

Then again my opinion is that Transistor was a major improvement over Bastion in most aspects

copper lark
#

OWO

inner lichen
#

the tender agony of loving sacrifice lays face down on the ground

#

yeah!

copper lark
inner lichen
#

:DDDD

copper lark
#

aaages ago i had a joshua ilon pfp from the live show

serene tulip
#

Transistor: ||"Hey, what are you doing? Wait, wait, what are you doing. Red. Don't you do it. Don't you dare. Don't do this.... please... If you do this.... Red please don't..... WAIT RED"||

inner lichen
#

god the liveshow is so GOOD

copper lark
#

IT IS it was so cute

hasty kernel
#

Then again I played Transistor before Bastion, and I imagine that makes a difference

serene tulip
#

Between Logan's amazing voice, and Darren's Amazing music

#

Bastion and Transistor had some stupid powerful scenes

inner lichen
#

yhhh

hasty kernel
#

For me Transistor and Ghost Trick showed that games could be a kind of art that other media are incapable of replicating

#

Bastion merely reinforced that idea

serene tulip
#

Ghost trick, you say?

#

is it on steam?

inner lichen
#

GHOST TRICK!

#

its a DS game

serene tulip
#

so much for that idea then

#

=\

hasty kernel
#

You can play it on an emulator

#

Or on iOS if you have that for some reason, I believe

inner lichen
#

yeah, or watch a playthu, its by the same ppl who did ace attorney

serene tulip
#

Yeah

inner lichen
#

ghost trick is one of my top fave games

serene tulip
#

Did cryaotic do a lets play?

hasty kernel
#

Its probably my favourite of all time, and Im ashamed I overlooked it so much

serene tulip
#

๐Ÿ˜›

hasty kernel
#

Its so good

inner lichen
#

i dont know tbh!

serene tulip
#

I doubt it

inner lichen
#

but yeah its So good

opaque quail
#

I'd highly recommend playing Ghost Trick over watching it, it's a pretty singular experience if you can get into it.

hasty kernel
#

Also, it has this dog

opaque quail
#

Missil!!! ๐Ÿ˜ญ

inner lichen
#

Best Boy

serene tulip
#

That is such a good dog

copper lark
#

can you pet the dog

inner lichen
#

hes the BEST dog

opaque quail
#

Based off of a real life dog, too!

#

Both of them, absolutely the best.

hasty kernel
#

Well I wont go into spoilers, but

inner lichen
#

h a

hasty kernel
#

You will be able to interact with the dog

opaque quail
#

There will be dog interactions, that's a guarantee.

copper lark
#

:o

inner lichen
#

yes, the dog is very important

hasty kernel
#

But yeah, definitely play it if you can

#

Its great

inner lichen
#

i would honestly say its a prime specimen of a perfect video game

hasty kernel
#

And emulators for DS are pretty easy to come by

#

It and Transistor, yes

inner lichen
#

yeah

opaque quail
#

If you have a DS and want to invest in buying it physically I recommend it because it's getting harder to find overall, but otherwise yeah DS emulators are really easy to get going.

hasty kernel
#

For both the only flaw I have is "its kind of short, but I also dont think it shouldve been longer"

opaque quail
#

And uhhh you can support the devs through Ace Attorney purchases instead since that series just hit it big everywhere, finally. ๐Ÿ˜„

hasty kernel
#

Yup

#

I think the Trilogy is on the switch now

inner lichen
#

the mechanics are so fun and refreshing... the music goes hard AF, the graphics are Astonishing to behold

opaque quail
#

It is!!

#

And steam I believe.

hasty kernel
#

Yeah its definitely on steam

#

Also highly recommend checking that out

serene tulip
#

Do you know what game was stupid powerful for me?

#

The beginner's Guide

#

its not like, the most traditional videogame

#

and didn't really have a whole lot of gameplay

#

but it hurt

#

I sent an email to its maker

#

I'm sure he laughed at its response

opaque quail
#

I've... never heard of it?! The reviews are awesome hmmm......

copper lark
#

iโ€™ve bought the AA trilogy so many times there so good

inner lichen
#

is it on steam? :0c

serene tulip
#

yup

hasty kernel
#

Still need AA7

serene tulip
#

I'm going to really emphasize that its not traditional

hasty kernel
#

I kind of hope its on the 3DS and not the switch

#

Because I dont really want to get a switch yet

ionic viper
#

SLAMS THE DOOR OPEN WHO SAID GHOST TRICK

opaque quail
#

Buy the Stanley Parable and The Beginner's Guide

serene tulip
#

I'm not exactly sure how to describe it

hasty kernel
#

I did

opaque quail
#

I see what type of game it is then. ๐Ÿ˜„

inner lichen
#

non-tradidtional is funky fresh im defs gonna look into it

hasty kernel
#

We were talking about good games

serene tulip
#

Yeah, its by the guy that did the stanley parable

hasty kernel
#

Also tangentially good dogs

serene tulip
#

which is also a great game

#

but less powerful

opaque quail
#

Sparrow we've all said Ghost Trick I think. ๐Ÿ˜„

inner lichen
#

ahahah

serene tulip
#

Ghost trick

#

wait

#

I already said it

ionic viper
#

honestly i wasn't that impressed by what i've seen of beginner's guide

serene tulip
#

I mean

#

If you're just watching a trailer

#

I can totally get that

ionic viper
#

no, i mean i watched a playthrough and was pretty :| throughout

serene tulip
#

ah

opaque quail
#

Luckily there are many, many games to choose from. ๐Ÿ˜„

ionic viper
#

yup!

serene tulip
#

Lies and deceit

#

you must like my games!!!!!

opaque quail
hasty kernel
#

Too many games in fact

#

Even moreso if you play multiplayer games that take up a lot of your time

opaque quail
#

What are the thoughts on the Ultra Deluxe version of Stanley Parable that was announced at TGA? In a night of a lot of excitement for Supergiant I was actually... really pumped to see it. ๐Ÿ˜„

hasty kernel
#

Curse you League and your characters Im way too invested in

serene tulip
#

I didn't even know there was a ultra delux version

#

casually glances at 3000 hours of Dota 2

opaque quail
#

It's not out yet still, but supposed to be out this year.

ionic viper
#

personally i'll be waiting on untitled goose game

#

i sincerely hope they decide to keep that as the name

hasty kernel
#

Well, at least Dota 2 doesnt have lore to get invested in

#

I think?

ionic viper
#

i can't think of it as anything else by now

serene tulip
#

god

#

Remember when goat simulator

#

just

ionic viper
#

man, the stanley parable narrator could say anything and it'd be funny

serene tulip
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remember it?

ionic viper
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remember it? i think i still have it installed.

serene tulip
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@ionic viper I use his announcer pack for dota 2 a lot

opaque quail
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When goat simulator Happened. ๐Ÿ˜„

serene tulip
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WHY HAVEN'T THEY MADE SANCTUM 3 YET?!?!

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I cri

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Not that goat simulator and satisfactory aren't freekin' amazing

ionic viper
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djfhkjghd the highest rated comment on that trailer: "They waited for the "Go Outside" achievement to be possible before announcing anything I see"

sharp grail
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lmao

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also god yeah i loved the beginners guide

graceful lotus
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transistor made me cry silly................

sharp grail
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i replayed it not too long ago and i was like

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yep, still cryingcat

ionic viper
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"It is a lovely morning in the village, and you are a horrible goose."

graceful lotus
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i've had that goose game on my wishlist for a while hahaa

ionic viper
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oh same

sharp grail
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i remember when people slowly started uncovering some mystery with ominous whispers in one of the levels, it never went anywhere but i still think about it from time to time

ionic viper
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i'm so ready to be a horrible goose

sharp grail
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i actually,

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have a fear of geese

somber ferry
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understandable

sharp grail
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because i was attacked by one lmao

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theyre so VICIOUS

somber ferry
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that sounds like something a goose would do

graceful lotus
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oh god

somber ferry
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we had them all over my high school campus

serene tulip
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geese are evil

somber ferry
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they would run after you honking aggressively if you looked at them wrong

graceful lotus
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HONK HONK

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im not sure if i've ever seen a goose

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im absolutely sure i've seen ducks though

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hrmm

somber ferry
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geese are evil

rain mortar
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Geese are delicious

ionic viper
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i just keep giggling at the wigglewalk of the goose in that trailer

obsidian fern
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@kindred delta sup

kindred delta
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sup

somber ferry
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also re: extended stanley parable, i am VERY excited about it

graceful lotus
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i wanna know what goose tastes like

somber ferry
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evil

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so lemons, presumably

ionic viper
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okay but as long as the new endings don't involve having to do something like press the same button for four hours

rain mortar
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Isn't that all games, when it comes down to it? squirtdevious

ionic viper
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yes but sometimes the buttons are different

hasty kernel
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It depends on what kind of geese

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Ive heard Canadian Geese are the worst

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In fact, it is my theory that the canadians are so nice and apologetic because of the geese

rain mortar
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Most ill-tempered? Maybe. Still delicious

serene tulip
hasty kernel
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Idk, I never liked goose meat much

somber ferry
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oh yeah...........the โ€œsave the baby by pressing this button for four hoursโ€ game fjdkfjsjfhskfjkdjf

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Letโ€™s not forget about the achievement you get for not playing the game for like three years

sharp grail
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at least that ending didnt have an achievement tied to it

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i dont think i did it myself and i have all of them

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well, i cheated with the go outside achievement, but not with any of the rest

ionic viper
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five years, actually

opaque quail
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It's definitely been multiple years since I've played The Stanley Parable but I'm not positive it's been five years so I'm afraid to launch it and try. :l

rain mortar
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If it's on Steam, it should tell you when you last played, right?

serene tulip
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lol, ditto

opaque quail
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Ahhh, the easy obvious answer I missed. ๐Ÿ’ƒ

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Okay no, checking achievements to see if that'll help me know.

hasty kernel
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It says Last Played when its installed I believe

serene tulip
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it has apparently last played the stanley parable 5 years 7 months and 2 days ago

opaque quail
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The achievements also tell me May 1st, we're doing this!

rain mortar
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Achievements should have unlock dates, yeah

opaque quail
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And I've also never.... launched the game twice, at all. I'm gonna get Welcome Back and Go Outside at the same time.

serene tulip
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so you launched the game and played it for an entire tuesday without ever closing it once

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๐Ÿ˜„

opaque quail
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No actually, I'm missing the Tuesday one. blobpensive

serene tulip
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me too

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apparently its the least achieved achievement

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even the unachievable objective has 2.8% higher completion

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globally

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also am I the only one in here who plays dota 2 because 7.22 is crazy

ionic viper
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i suddenly really wanna replay ori and the blind forest

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i suddenly really wanna replay ori and the blind forest

hasty kernel
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I played it a lot a long time ago

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But League is just better, and has characters I actually care about, soooo

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Lemme see what 7.22 actually does

serene tulip
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Yeah

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Somehow dotas characters do not attach to me in the same way that leagues did

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but the gameplay is so much more in my wheelhouse

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also all my friends play it

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or tbh I'd play hots

hasty kernel
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Its because Dota 2 doesnt really have much of a lore

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They have some good VOs though

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Like Timber

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But VOs only give you so much characterization

serene tulip
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I like Nyx assassin, but mostly because he's fun to play

hasty kernel
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Nyx nyx nyx

serene tulip
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heheheh nyx

hasty kernel
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HotS was fun actually

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I never played it much because I didnt like the random map gimmick

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But honestly, it did a lot of things right

serene tulip
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I never played it much because I couldn't convince any of my friends to play it longer than a month

kindred delta
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did someone say DOTA

serene tulip
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I did!

kindred delta
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Tinkers.

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Everything goes boom.

serene tulip
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techies?

kindred delta
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yes

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Techies my bad.

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It's been ages.

graceful lotus
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autochess > normal dota

serene tulip
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no biggie ^^

graceful lotus
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hahaha

serene tulip
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lol

hasty kernel
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Tinker was fun in Dota 2

kindred delta
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Also

hasty kernel
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But I guess the big problem with Dota 2 is that it doesnt care about "anti-fun"

kindred delta
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"I don't want these lemons.

I just want limes."

hasty kernel
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A lot of things in Dota 2 are just awful to play against

serene tulip
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like techies

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๐Ÿ˜„

kindred delta
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anti-fun

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ah yes

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SILENCE

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every minute

serene tulip
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anything with mana burn

kindred delta
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that

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and anytime you run into a meathook

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"OI FRESH MEAT"

serene tulip
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like, seriously, I only started banning drow recently because she was OP, but freekin' antimage and his mana burn would get my ban every game otherwise

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also, as someone who plays a lot of puck and Nyx, hooks don't bother me ๐Ÿ˜„

hasty kernel
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Also, 5 second stuns

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And other such nonsense

kindred delta
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I used to play Vlad in League.

serene tulip
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I love instantaneous dodges

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and/or stuns in nyx's case

hasty kernel
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Not to mention so much clutter Dota 2 kept because its just leftovers from the WC3 engine

kindred delta
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Then I picked up a character like Skeleton King / Specter King (or whatever his name is)

serene tulip
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However

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wraith

hasty kernel
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Also, Dota 2 does not have a hero that is literally just a cat

serene tulip
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However

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However

hasty kernel
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Therefore, League > Dota 2

serene tulip
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Dota does have one thing

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that I have seen no other moba have

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that makes it the best

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Blink. Dagger.

serene tulip
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What's flash's cooldown?

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is it 12 seconds?

kindred delta
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my favorite League character is uh...

hasty kernel
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In that case

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Kassadin

kindred delta
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Jeopardy theme

serene tulip
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What's its range?

hasty kernel
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1.2 second cooldown blink

serene tulip
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is it like, half the screen?

hasty kernel
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Take that

serene tulip
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does it cost no mana?

hasty kernel
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It might as well not cost any tbh

graceful lotus
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the cooldown of flash is 5 minutes...........................

hasty kernel
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But still, Yuumi is great

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She is basically the Ghost Trick support

serene tulip
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I liked that one character that everyone was getting mad at for being a lesbian

hasty kernel
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You possess champions, hop between them, and heal them and throw out projectiles you change the trajectory of mid-air

serene tulip
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the chameleon?