off-topic-discussion

[left linden]

the motherboard the kingpins are going on is an x570 dark with a 5800x3D and an insanely rare ram kit (Corsair Dom Plat SE Torque edition)

desktop pc that escaped and went feral

they’re kinda roaming around

[sand swallow]

Ah yes

Silly me

[fair cloud]

fortunately, my fan controller is cheap

though there are some color settings I could only use with my currently defective one, that's a shame...

[tranquil bay]

did you remember to feed them

[true vapor]

I thought late shifts would be my thing... they aren't

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-10606272476729293300

[fair cloud]

Man I hate offboarding people at work. Especially those I know well

answered. Hope it helps

[fast marlin]

today in chronicles of being sick i was watching drawfee and dropped my phone (i have a loft bed) so i iust sat there lisyening to quieter far away drawfee for like 10 minutes

[fair cloud]

Hope you get better soon

I spent the last three weeks with the nastiest cough of my life

thought it was covid all over again. Me and my wife were sick. We're all better now though

[celest cedar]

It definitely sounds better on paper lol

[blissful charm]

hope you get better soon abigail

[celest cedar]

I worked overnights at a few jobs, brutal each time

[snow jungle]

get well soon

[true vapor]

OOOOF... yeah i can imagine :/

[true vapor]

Yeahhhh it does lol

[fair cloud]

This particular case is of an employee in a 10 year tenure. Lovely lady, always treated me well

Breaks my heart to just cut off her accounts

[true vapor]

Why was she let go?

[tender cobalt]

Thanks!

[tranquil bay]

forgot what just happened already and was like huh

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-13719248636774070662

[runic sparrow]

giys i learned how to say good afternoon my gamers in irish gaelic

[coral kettle]

Hi everyone

[leaden fossil]

Hiyaa! :D

[coral kettle]

Hruuu!!!

^_^

[leaden fossil]

Pretty good, got some classes at the moment, you?:)

[true vapor]

Good morning everyone!

[sharp grail]

morning!

how goes it

[coral kettle]

Ohhhh!!! Im alr!! Ty fot asking

(My pfp is a cry for help guys)

[royal relic]

morning

[coral kettle]

Helloo

[royal relic]

i'm two coffee cups away from calling it a good morning

so it's just a morning now

[leaden fossil]

Morning! ^^

[sharp grail]

how do yall drink so much coffee damn

then again if i get a bottle of mocha or something from the store i will drain it in one day

[leaden fossil]

Same here but with chocolate milk😭

[royal relic]

with our mouth, usually

[true vapor]

AD hi!

It's going alright, I'm tired and have a late shift again but otherwise I'm okay.

My boss can't be that angry with me since she was acting pretty normal towards me yesterday so that's a good thing ^^

[dry stratus]

growing up in the supergiant community means witnessing all your friends getting into coffee as adults

(or... energy drinks... like i have...)

[true vapor]

I don't drink coffee or energy drinks xD

[dry stratus]

i so admire adults who don't consume any caffeine - used to be one of them but then the gym + work happened to me

i've been trying to counter my habits by consume yerba mate occasionally and it's kinda working

[true vapor]

I drink coke xD
That has caffeine in it too xD

[fast marlin]

id be an energy drink girl if not for tachycardia 😔

[dry stratus]

okay. i will say. american energy drinks are crazy

[fast marlin]

oh are they different there

[dry stratus]

i'm a big fan of the ghost sour watermelon energy drink - the american version has 200mg of caffeine, the aussie version has 160mg

the american version of the c4 smart energy drinks have 200mg, the aussie version has 150mg etc

[fast marlin]

oh thats crazy

[dry stratus]

american energy drinks seem to have around half a shot of espresso's worth of caffeine more in their energy drinks across the board

(with one shot of espresso usually being around 70-80mg of caffein iirc)

[fast marlin]

thats fascinating woah

[tall owl]

Good morbing

[junior sable]

good morbing

[fair cloud]

Morning

Literally woke up 5 minutes ago

With my cats chasing each other around the house

[vocal yoke]

awwww man Helldivers 2 is forcing PSN account linking now

Frick Sony

[fair cloud]

That's probably for crossplay

[vocal yoke]

It already had without PSN

Also let's reminisce about Sony's SPLENDID cybersecurity

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach

[fair cloud]

Well then that sucks

[vocal yoke]

Yeah I got over 100 hours in that game. I had an account before but it's still an injustice

Apparently it was in the TOS but why make a skip button for linking your account

Also the 2014 PS4 hackings were crazy

[faint panther]

What supergiant game is worth playing after Hades?

[tall owl]

all of them

[faint panther]

I will play all of them at once

[royal relic]

at the same time

one game per limb

[faint panther]

I’ll probably play Bastion first

[sharp grail]

like those tiktoks that show like 3 things going on on the screen

all at once

[royal relic]

and none of those things are worth watching

three times the garbage for the price of one!

[mild pelican]

and fourth is being spoken at the background

[faint panther]

https://tenor.com/view/bastion-overwatch-hello-greetings-gif-21091403

[mild pelican]

and unrelated song is playing

[faint panther]

It’s pretty cool supergiant games made a game about bastion from Overwatch

[mild pelican]

woo-ee-oo-i

[faint panther]

I actually had a teacher who named his son after Bastion

[coral kettle]

Woah

Awesome

[tall owl]

couldve just named them sebastion

[spark stone]

star wars

[junior sable]

aint no way

[faint panther]

Yes way

[junior sable]

🗣️

the beep boop

im a newer player and i boutta grind this game to get sigma

i need to be sigma

[faint panther]

https://tenor.com/view/so-sigma-sigma-trans-talking-flower-mario-gif-17069754521250683205

[junior sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-overwatch-gif-25662008

[faint panther]

Ligma from Overwatch

[sharp grail]

i thought they gave everyone all heroes now

[junior sable]

naw you gotta play games to unlock em

I NEED SIGMAAA

[sharp grail]

unless youre talking about hades. in which case dont its not worth it

[junior sable]

hadeez

[tall owl]

sigma like all projectile heroes in ow feels terrible to play

feels like they‘re all shooting wet tissues

[sharp grail]

as mercy i love my pistol and accidentally killing people by the travel time

[spark stone]

it's on a future update

right now they still have the missions thingy

[sharp grail]

got u

[spark stone]

i played a bit when the cowboy bebop collab happened

and then stopped again cause idk life is hard

[sharp grail]

i just got a bunch of "hero unlocked" popups for... heroes ive already had unlocked because i preordered the game

overwatch sux

[spark stone]

i grinded like

10 hours to unlock Illari

i this that was her name

then i found out she isn't as good as the heroes i was playing to unlock her and got a bit mad

[sharp grail]

shes pretty fun but as per usual the new heroes introduced to the game are way powerful, then get nerfed when theyre actually out

[spark stone]

feel like most competitive games are like this

they wanna sell a lot when the champion/hero releases

but then they nerf them so the status quo isn't changed

[fair cloud]

I'm 1 month away from my first year married

crazy how time flies

[sharp grail]

wow!! how has married life been

you talk some about your wife and marriage here so i assume its been well 😊

[fair cloud]

It's been great! It's definitely an experience with ups and downs, but that's life. I don't regret it, not one bit

My wife is the most amazing person I've ever met, truly

[junior sable]

yoooo congrats my bro

[coral kettle]

I'm hungry

[faint panther]

I dropped my phone again

And then the screen looked like it had white paint on it

And there was a red line

[spark stone]

you'll never see it coming

[faint panther]

persona 5 reference

[spark stone]

yeeee

i love persona 5

[faint panther]

I'm in the last palace

[spark stone]

vanilla or royal

i have yet to play royal

[faint panther]

vanilla on PS4

[spark stone]

bought the special edition but never played it through

[spark stone]

oh okay

if you mean the ||ship palace||, that's a cool one

cause there's a bit of game after that

like some sort of "wrapping up"

[leaden fossil]

I've never played a persona game, would they be worth getting into?:D

[spark stone]

yeahh i love persona

play 3 reload, 4 golden or 5 royal

[faint panther]

I'm in the casino

Is it not the last one?

[spark stone]

those are the complete edition of each game

you can start by any of these

[spark stone]

nope

you've got quite a while ahead

[leaden fossil]

Ooo okay! I'll take a look at those once I get home later! Thank you very much!

[faint panther]

People talk about a Persona 4 remake, but I rather have a Persona 1 or 2 remake

[spark stone]

you're in about 80% of the story at that point

there's another palace and an final act of sorts

[split crow]

I'd rather SMT remakes then again I'm a weirdo who dropped P5 because I couldn't cope with the story

[coral kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-the-musical-singing-cartoon-characters-gif-17842985

[faint panther]

the story of undertale

[coral kettle]

I screamed when I got a notif

[faint panther]

A good scream or a bad scream?

[coral kettle]

A scared one

[faint panther]

Who is your favorite undertale character?

[coral kettle]

Undyne

[faint panther]

I like Mettaton

because they change, but they are also funny

I saw someonee cosplaying as Mettaton and got a picture with them at comic con

[coral kettle]

Mettaton is also my favourite, they're zesty

It's funny when ppl think they're a girl..

[faint panther]

I gotta replay undertale sometime

And I need to finish the Deltarune demo

[sharp grail]

i replayed it recently-ish

it was a very different experience from when i played it when it came out

[fast marlin]

my #1 tip for beint overwhelmed is literally just play coconut mall

it is impossible to be mean to urself when coconut mall is playing actually because then you start laughing

[royal relic]

oh my god

thank you youtube for recommending this to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCuCFH2PvJ8

i don't even know how i got here

but im glad i did

[left linden]

bad ak

not 3d printed

[loud garden]

taking a week off from gym is a good idea

[left linden]

also not real, giga cringe

[left linden]

true and real

[fast marlin]

hmmm bit of a niche question but thjs usually is the place for those does anyone have tips for lighting a room

specifically i have a area under my bed where my pc and stuff is and even with the uv lamp it is darkk

plus im working on finally making my room nice after like 11 months oops

[mossy moss]

edison style string lights maybe?

[true vapor]

I have led strips underneath my bed

They're nice

[uneven forge]

I got LED lights and have not turned them on in months

[fair cloud]

I have an RGB lamp on my bedside table

Maybe you could swap your UV light for one of those, you can control colour and brightness over your phone and/or a voice assistant (Google, Alexa)

It's really handy

[vocal yoke]

i love finding youtube channels that only archive their works and not try to be famous. i literally found a japanese guy that covers technical death metal songs and posts his metal gear solid v clips. it's like a glimpse into someone's life

like seeing some dude cover Death while the TV in the background plays some anime

[fair cloud]

I like this one restoration channel, it's a French guy restoring old stuff, to the point of making new parts resembling the original as close as possible

He doesn't even talk or anything, it's just his work, and it's pretty relaxing

He has a cat too

[vocal yoke]

Cant forget Steve1989MREinfo

how did this guy not get into ER for dysenthery is beyond me

my man eating century old colonial british food and not dying

[fair cloud]

Haha

if it was me, I'd probably be dead

[vocal yoke]

He probably just chose the Lead Belly perk from Fallout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoHuMwZwTk

Like the comment said, this guy might have been the last victim of the Boer war ☠️

[fair cloud]

wish I could do that. My life would be so much better

[vocal yoke]

allergies?

[fair cloud]

Weak stomach, basically. It got better as I aged with treatments and such but I can't eat anything that's about to expire or expired

Last time I ate a bologna sandwich I made and I didn't realize it went bad. Won me a trip to the ER and a 10kg weight loss. Not fun.

[vocal yoke]

bruh....yeah im checking expiration dates like a lunatic

[fair cloud]

Normally people eat expired foods and get a bellyache for a day. I get destroyed for a week

[vocal yoke]

this reminds me of canned food

lord oh lord

cant go wrong with a can of chilli beans

the only bad outcome is flatulences for an entire day

[fair cloud]

Yeah, those are verboten to me hahaha

I'd rather cook chili beans myself

that gave me an idea for tomorrow's lunch. Chili con carne, with a side of mashed potatoes

and maybe some grilled chicken to go with it

[coral kettle]

I love churros

[junior sable]

steals your churros

chat im feeling malicious

feeling malignant

[coral kettle]

YELLS
SCREAMS
SHOUTS
SOBS
CHASES YOU DOWN.

[faint panther]

hello fellow llama

[junior sable]

whats up llama

[junior sable]

kills asterius 👺

[coral kettle]

WHAT.

HAUNTS YOU DOWN.

[plush cove]

YO DON'T KILL MY BULL BROS

[junior sable]

uh steals you r ambrosia ‼️

[coral kettle]

Chases you down again

[junior sable]

ok but

thesus when he has 2 attacks

[bleak sierra]

Hi guys I just wanted to let you all know of a scam thats going around. Had it this afternoon where my friend messaged me saying that they 'accidentally' reported my account and I needed to conctact this specific support person to get my ban undone. Luckily they only sent me a screenshot of the link I was so stressed at the time I didn't think about it and contacted the REAL discord support instead of the strange link. I got lucky and I'm spreading the word now because their going through their entire freinds list with the same 'accident'

Anyways, please don't feel pressured into anything if discord has a problem with you they'll email you directly, here's a friendly reminder not to share your phone number or email on here because you never know whatll happen and they don't have control of that account the hacker has so much information that could be used to stalked them. Please please be careful!

[hexed hollow]

Hi Hyperion,
we're well aware of the scam, it's been one of several we've been affected by here over the years

appreciate you mentioning it

[bleak sierra]

No problem! I had no idea it even existed until today so I thought I'd share in case anyone else lives under a rock

[true vapor]

Hey you lovely people!
May the Fourth be with you!

[spark stone]

yeahh happy may the fourth skywalkers

[leaden fossil]

Hiya, heck yeahh, may the fourth be with you!! :D

[fair cloud]

Also, enable MFA for all your accounts. Discord will never contact you asking for personal info in any way. And never use the same password in more than one place

[bleak sierra]

Whats MFA?

The password thing is obvious

[fair cloud]

Multi Factor Authentication

[bleak sierra]

Oh I can't do that

[fair cloud]

It's an extra step to log in

[bleak sierra]

I don't have another device

[fair cloud]

Do you have a mobile phone?

[bleak sierra]

Yup!

[fair cloud]

That works

use Authy and set up your tokens

[bleak sierra]

Tokens?

[fair cloud]

Yes, MFA requires you to input a randomly generated token after the password. That token is shown on whatever app you use as your token manager

there's Google Authenticator, Authy, many more

setting it up is easy too

[bleak sierra]

Also thank you!! Super useful info

[bleak sierra]

Oooh thank you

[fair cloud]

Anytime. Part of my job is making sure users at my workplace are safe from attacks, so MFA is mandatory there

[bleak sierra]

So Google authenticator is what you'd recommend?

[fair cloud]

It works, I prefer Authy myself but use what you like the best

[bleak sierra]

Oh thanks!

[fair cloud]

You're welcome 🙂

[fast marlin]

oh wait i didnt mean uv lamp just realized that

no i have a specific uhh SAD light there

[faint panther]

https://tenor.com/view/limpbizkit-nookie-freddurst-gif-11194320

[junior sable]

quick question are your pronouns legit or /j

[faint panther]

Finally someone mentions my pronouns

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[faint panther]

just a joke, he/him is okay

[junior sable]

man i tap on everyones profile

you would not BELIEVE how many people have slightly vague but emotionally charged single sentences as statuses

i mean it makes sense, a status is like

your facial expression

people who are gloomy have gloomy faces

[faint panther]

Oh yeah I need to make a funny status

before it was:

"I used to get booty calls, now I just get butt dialed"

[tardy ore]

@faint panther so uh, there are actually neurological causes for a lot of that silliness.

Groupthink is, unfortunately, a brain thing humans have

[faint panther]

Yeah

It gets exploited alot

[tardy ore]

I don't understand it myself because I was somehow born without it

Like

[faint panther]

No you weren't

[tardy ore]

I do not have a sense of group identity. Or a way to understand how anyone can have one

[faint panther]

When all of your friends say something you don't have a urge to agree with them?

[tardy ore]

No, I mean. There are things that are supposed to have effects on people

No

Never

I will die on the hill fighting even close friends if I think what they all say is nonsense

See the thing is

There's a simple test

The rock concert phenomenon

Or whatever it's called.

[faint panther]

Explain the scenario professor

[fast marlin]

true tbh

mine is just a taylor swift lyric

[faint panther]

I need to find someone to make a Hades rap with

We will of course rap Nyx with Styx

[tardy ore]

This thing where, when a bunch of people are all grouped up and there's some kind of loud participatory music event ongoing, they start feeling less... Self-y... And more like "part of something bigger than themselves"

This happens at concerts, in religious gatherings, etc. It's just a brain response humans evolved to foster community-belonging

[faint panther]

I do not have this

[tardy ore]

I, uh, distinctly recall my first experience in a church during a hymn. I got bored and spent the whole time staring at the stained glass windows thinking "ooh, pretty"

That's pretty much an a+ test for a specific type of neurodivergence that involves lacking that ingroup response

Some researchers call it tribal empathy

Names are all wibbly though, don't expect one term to mean anything consistent

[tardy ore]

This kind of thing can be conditioned to a certain extent, like, even ND people who don't have the underlying biological mechanism can be conditioned to do it anyway to avoid conflict

Unfortunately, I am an incorrigible goblin whose fight or flight response is at least 80% fight

Basically, I don't really mask. Can't

Part of that is also because of severe childhood trauma and alienation, to be fair, but that mainly just disinclined me to put in any more effort to Fit In or Get Along.

That one brain-music-trick is super easy to exploit though, which explains a lot about history

Humans kind of have to be educated out of doing dumb things. Everyone is capable of it (never too late to grow a little more frontal lobe), but people are often actively conditioned not to by big dumb powerful people with big dumb sticks to hit the braincells out of them with.

[faint panther]

Dumb people are easier to profit off of

[tardy ore]

P much

[faint panther]

Which is why I think humans aren't naturally stupid

There's always been an elite

[tardy ore]

No one is naturally much of anything, it's all just causality and environmental factors

[faint panther]

Who want a flock of idiots

[tardy ore]

I'm a firm believer in majority nurture

[faint panther]

I disagree

Literally all life is hardcoded

All of reality operates on a list of laws

[tardy ore]

Never seen much evidence for strong determinism, only robust evidence for weak determinism

Too early to have a definite answer on that stuff.

Gets to be almost like religion. I prefer to be agnostic on that

[faint panther]

No I mean like literally all life has DNA

Hardcoded

[tardy ore]

Doesn't determine high level behaviors or identity or any of that, just tendencies

Genetics is your starting point but you aren't stuck to a track after

Might limit the range of things you could potentially do or be, but it won't decide. Environment influences that

[faint panther]

But you have a limited amount of responses to your environment

[tardy ore]

Me, I prefer to just not bother trying to derive certainties.

Embrace the chaos.

[tardy ore]

That's what I just said though.

Like no amount of brute force is ever going to just make my brain receptive to the concert effect.

[faint panther]

I think that's a cop out

It's not chaos

[tardy ore]

Well, it's technically probabilistic weighted responses

But all it means is that things aren't predetermined.

[faint panther]

Look up Laplace's demon

[tardy ore]

Note: Half of my language is non-literal and unserious, so I don't literally mean you can't predict anything

[faint panther]

All of reality is predetermined

[tardy ore]

Nah. I really don't think that's substantiated beyond a quasi-religious belief in fate or destiny or whatever.

It's leaping to a conclusion that can't be backed up with current knowledge.

[faint panther]

I'm coming from a scientific standpoint here. If you know the position and momentum of every particle in the universe, as well as completely understand the laws of physics, then you can predict the future with 100% certainty

That's laplaces demon

[tardy ore]

So am I, but I'm from a different scientific school of thought

Frankly, we do not know that. It can't be tested right now.

Literally impossible with current scope technology or anything else

[faint panther]

It is impossible to test, but you don't really need to test it

What scenario could you not predict if you had such knowledge?

[tardy ore]

So you're from the rationalist school of thought, basically, but I'm a hardline empiricist

[faint panther]

I guess

[tardy ore]

I think it's premature to conclude that when we don't even have good ways to test for the properties of quantum phenomena, for instance

[faint panther]

But like

Laplace demon knows the properties

[tardy ore]

Some people just say "well, all the quantum uncertainty automatically resolves into predictable deterministic phenomena at the macro scale anyway so it doesn't matter", but we genuinely do not know that for a fact

We do know that at specific scales in the cosmos, pretty much every accepted formula we use to understand "normal" physics hits breaking point

And past that point, there are phenomena that as far as we know are not perfectly regular or predictable.

[tardy ore]

The thought experiment has just created another god, then

Demon is an appropriate term

It's a cognitohazard

[faint panther]

Nah

Cognitohazards aren't conceptual

They don't exist yet

And they aren't hypothetical ideas like rokos basilisk

[tardy ore]

Pfft, that one was such a silly idea

Roko's basilisk is incredibly stupid.

[faint panther]

A cognitohazard is information that hijacks your brain by being observed

[tardy ore]

Can't take it seriously

[faint panther]

Like a computer virus

Rokos basilisk is so dumb

[tardy ore]

But really, that so-called Laplace's demon is just another way through which someone made up the idea of a god

It's just the omniscience claim repackaged

And my response is, really, to just dare it to prove it exists

[faint panther]

It doesn't exist

It's a hypothetical

[tardy ore]

Then it doesn't matter to me

It means just as much as the hypothetical of God creating a corndog so big he couldn't eat it

I don't concern myself with those specific kinds of hypothetical thought experiments much.

I always just think through them once or twice and conclude "okay, but does it matter... Nah, not really"

And go back to empirical reality in the end

Accepting all the limits of testable knowledge. For now.

We'll get them someday

I prefer to accept my lack of knowledge on any subject that can't adequately be proven or tested. Null hypothesis

(also if I use terms imprecisely it's because I have what seems to be a mild form of aphasia, in which I forget exact terms constantly)

Every specific term I say is with the full knowledge that it could be horrifically misused.

Or swapped with some other thing.

[tardy ore]

Anyway, we got way off topic. Where were we

Humans do silly things. Usually because of evolutionary baggage and social conditioning. I just think it would be logical to engage in reciprocal altruism for mutual benefit, and just chill on all the meaningless distinctions, but apparently I'm weird for thinking that.

[junior sable]

i actually didnt recognize there was a difference until now 💀💀

[uneven forge]

oh man, I just spent all afternoon and night with my friend and her foster kid since it was the child's birthday. the party was great! she got a few presents and skated with her cousins. she then invited me later on to watch a movie with her and her foster mom so I got to see the new king kong movie

[junior sable]

i like to take this and think that everyone is capable of fundamental change no matter who

like a tabula rasa but it isnt rasa yet you have an eraser

[tardy ore]

It's true, but it requires incentive structures and conditions to align, can't expect people to just "do better" when nothing about their circumstances has changed

[junior sable]

true

[tardy ore]

That's why it's useless to focus on moral judgments and useful to focus on cause and effect

[junior sable]

but its a nice mindset to have when helping someone (mentally i mean) when it seems tough

[tardy ore]

Like... You can't understand or explain natural phenomena by calling things good or evil.

[junior sable]

man i cant wait to take sociology and psychology

i love this stuff

[uneven forge]

Sociology is fun!

[tardy ore]

You can however identify the cause of something (behavior or anything else) and derive solutions that work based on understanding the causality and addressing the underlying problem.

This to me is simple, but apparently it is alien to a lot of people.

[junior sable]

rip

not my freshman brain barely understanding the jargon

[tardy ore]

Many people seem to think psychology and sociology are about judging people as "good" or "bad" or "normal" or "abnormal" or "lazy" or whatever else.

Those people should not be practicing in the field

[uneven forge]

Oh it’s ok I’m my tired frog brain is miss firing a neuron 😂

[junior sable]

????

why??? its like

not that

[junior sable]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-freeza-frieza-dbz-minor-spelling-mistake-gif-22504422

[tardy ore]

Because their culture is set up to incentivize this behavior and mentality, usually - they're taught to see everything as a competition and a hierarchy of value

[uneven forge]

I have a love hate with psychology. I like it but I don’t like learning about theories and the philosophy of “why”. I like straight forward science. Just tell me what something is I don’t want to go into the details of philosophy 😭

[tardy ore]

I like all of it.

[junior sable]

wait incentivize the assumption that psychology and sociology is labeling people as lazy and stuff??????

i may be trippin

[junior sable]

but i love ittt

[tardy ore]

Well, yes, because in a lot of cultures that gives people power

[junior sable]

buh

[tardy ore]

[glances at half of America]

[junior sable]

i mean humans have gone FAR out of their way to prove that you can leverage power from practically anythjng

[uneven forge]

It’s so interesting!! It god is it boring 😂 it’s someone’s favorite thing tho!! Like how data entry and cataloguing is mine

[junior sable]

so yeah i believe it

[tardy ore]

To me, the "why" is pretty much the most important thing. That's how you find solutions

[junior sable]

wait how tf

data entry

[uneven forge]

Take data, organize it, and enter it into database. No why just do

[tardy ore]

Neurodivergence do be wildin

[uneven forge]

I love technical science I think. It’s a bit easier for me to understand. I know the beginning of one of my classes we legit were learning what is browsing and how to define it and I was just frog blinking like lord

That it do

[tardy ore]

Also where ya from llama

I'm kinda surprised that you're not familiar with the idea of people, say, becoming psychologists just so they can tell people "you don't have ADHD you're just lazy" or some nonsense like that.

It's apparently hideously common in a lot of places

Utterly pointless though.

It's just cruelty driven by ideology.

[tardy ore]

I am legitimately only good at two things and one of them is critical analysis. The other is editing and iterating on preexisting work, whether it's writing or game design or anything else not visual-art-based

[hollow raft]

Someone… should i sleep to my liked playlist, rock music, or lofi hip hop?

[uneven forge]

Oh god ain’t that the truth. I think it’s also cause different people express things differently and we don’t have a good book of symptoms 😂 the dsm5 is kinda booty

[tardy ore]

Oh, yes, it's terrible.

[uneven forge]

Hmmmm do you want a peaceful sleep? I recommend peaceful piano music since that’s super nice

[tardy ore]

Option A sounds good to me

[tranquil bay]

[uneven forge]

I envy those who can sleep to music. I legit cannot but need a fan to sleep

[hollow raft]

Well all 3 work for me.. its less about the songs and more for the noise.. atm idc which

[hollow raft]

I have both 🙂

[uneven forge]

Aye! I fellow fan

My fan stays on even in winter

[hollow raft]

Without it.. i get so anxious idk why

[uneven forge]

God same. Silence is so painful to me. I don’t want to sleep with my THOUGHTS. I’m not that crazy 😂

[hollow raft]

Silence just like makes me itch physically.. and thats ignoring the tinnitus i get since i always have noise

If silence then i get loud ringing wooo

[uneven forge]

That too! My mom and sister need like total silence when studying and I cannot. I need noise even if it’s just a tv on

[hollow raft]

Rightttt yessss.. issues unite! xD

[uneven forge]

Yea! I love studying in the library in the louder floors since I get to just let all the noise happen. It starts to turn into a hum

[hollow raft]

One i do to sleep, and i think its crazy but it works… is i have gone to sleep to a metronome

[hollow raft]

I can literally only work, with either both earbuds in.. or in noisy areas

[uneven forge]

Huh! That honestly doesn’t sound crazy! A fan is basically that. It’s a constant noise that’s similar.

Oh I keep my earbuds off cause sometimes you get to listen to some insane convos

[hollow raft]

That is truee… i once heard my math teacher shes like “i can ask you, oh wait your good at math… i will ask this person instead”

I felt so bad xD

[tardy ore]

See, the problem is partly over-standardization, I think. The DSM is more for insurers than clinicians, so they want things all... Standard. Regular. One size fits all.

Unfortunately, reality exists. That's not how brains work.

[tardy ore]

ADHD brain moment. My tinnitus is due to ear damage from school bullies though lmao

[uneven forge]

Yea it does suck since standardizing something so complex really doesn’t help a lot of people ;;

[hollow raft]

Exactly lmao..

[uneven forge]

My tinnitus likes to randomly show up like “hey you haven’t had your hearing go out completely in one ear for a while….lets change that”

[hollow raft]

To be fair.. i have been grading math papers for awhile.. how many inches are in 10 feet

Easy question right?

Apparently not

[uneven forge]

Panicking

[hollow raft]

Answer i got was 5 inchest#

Aaa i cant type

Inches

Got it

[bronze lintel]

that was funny mistake

[hollow raft]

Shhhh it never happened

Idk how i did it

[uneven forge]

I closed my eyes it’s ok

It’s 120 inches right

[hollow raft]

But yeah 12 feet into inches is 5inches apparently

[hollow raft]

Yes lmao

[uneven forge]

Aye! I am smart

[hollow raft]

Its 12x10

Im assuming everyone knows how many inches are in a foot soo

[uneven forge]

I can’t tell you how many millimeters are in a centimeter sadly

[hollow raft]

I also saw one… where 5+3 is 4

[hollow raft]

KHDBDCM

[uneven forge]

[hollow raft]

M to C is one.. so add a 0

King henry died by drinking chocolate milk

[tardy ore]

I'm planning to one day go into research level psych so I can fix the damn problem myself. Insert Thanos "fine I'll do it myself" gif meme

[uneven forge]

I swear I passed college

Please y’all fix the book. It’s so broke

[hollow raft]

Freakin meter stuff and genotypes… is all i remember from science class

[tardy ore]

The idea that there is one Standard Brain™️ that is Normal and Good, and any deviation from that brain is Bad and Sick, is ridiculous

That's the paradigm a lot of old-fashioned psych operates on, and it's wrong, wrong, WRONG.

It's not even a moral thing. It's just incorrect.

[uneven forge]

Yea it’s why I honestly switched from psychology to environmental science since a lot of the stuff was really outdated it just not wanting to admit they’re wrong.

[hollow raft]

I hope the college is go to is updated.. im doing psychology

[uneven forge]

Also getting a research lab credit was like pulling teeth

[tardy ore]

Yep, it's infested with a lot of deeply conservative-minded individuals who just can't admit their knowledge is outdated

I don't consider those people to be real scientists. If you're in a science field, you update your knowledge to accommodate new facts, or else you aren't actually a scientist - you're just dogmatic.

[hollow raft]

3.14159 this is pi followed by 2653589 circumstance over Diiii ameter 79 and 323 omg cant you see 8462643 and now where on a spree

Scuse me lol

[uneven forge]

I’m also a rare breed of “I like to dumb down science so that non science people can understand” and that kinda makes me stand out since a lot of science people cannot for the life of them talk to people

[tardy ore]

Oh gods does it involve surveys and other crap like that

[hollow raft]

Thats how i learn.. they say big words, and i dumb it down in my head and go ohhhhhh

[tardy ore]

I am bad at dumbing things down. I can only do full AuDHD firehose

[uneven forge]

That or none of the professors are doing research it was horrible

[tardy ore]

I just forget exact terms anyway

So I only talk about concepts with any real confidence

Or data

[hollow raft]

It also takes me hours to like process info.. so i will question it at the time then suddenly omg really?

[tardy ore]

Terms? Who cares. They all just get made up

[uneven forge]

Yea it takes me a bit to process some stuff. Math was not my best subject

[tardy ore]

I have slight aphasia

So my brain just forgor words constantly

[hollow raft]

I love mathhhh

English is my worst

[uneven forge]

Sometimes numbers are colors to me. Like 7 is green

[tardy ore]

Despite that, my reading comprehension is my biggest strength and I have an intuitive understanding of grammar.

[hollow raft]

What did the author mean by this choice of words.. how ta frick am i suppose to know ask them

[tardy ore]

Oh, synesthesia, neat. I got aphantasia instead

But also a weird sort of pseudo synesthesia sometimes where it's abstract concepts instead of colors or tastes or something

Like... Oh, this word is pointy.

[uneven forge]

Yea! I may honestly have a form of it 😂 sometimes some things have a taste or smell? Like some colors or sounds I can taste or smell them

[hollow raft]

I want something like that.. i read a book where a character saw auras in color and would take a picture of it… then when they looked at the picture if it kept the aura he would keep it

And i just think its so coolll

[tardy ore]

This one's razor sharp, that one's kinda spicy actually, this phrase kinda feels like lying...

[hollow raft]

Like i see it as a deeper understanding of how you look at things… if that makes sense?

[tardy ore]

I can read tone in text. Lmao

[hollow raft]

I could never wrong, i dont got that… i do have a “power” of reading people lmao

[tardy ore]

The downside: I can barely read body language and the only spoken tone reads I get are probably just CPTSD

Lul

(i.e., usually wrong because woo trauma)

[uneven forge]

The brain is so weird sometimes. I think I’ve read that synesthesia is basically the brain getting confused and just going “well now we can taste blue”

[tardy ore]

Oh hey this convo is a collect em all of neurodivergences

[hollow raft]

Thanks to family member… i get anxiety when people knock on my door

but i also get mad when they barge in xD

[uneven forge]

I hate knocking one people’s door! Like please just have a doorbell it’s so much easier

[hollow raft]

I would prefer it if they yelled through the door and i question if im hearing things

[tardy ore]

Lmao based

[uneven forge]

LMAO I get so caught up in what’s a good knock like am I knocking too loud? Too soft? Was that too many knocks??

[hollow raft]

I just do the sheldon knock

Knock knock knock penny? Knock knock knock penny? Knock knock knock penny?

[tardy ore]

Also, fun fact. According to one specific model of neurodivergence (my favored one), the connectome model advocated by Temple Grandin, these are all just different flavors of Asperger's (which is defined there as brain making way too many connections in one processing cluster of neurons at the expense of others, basically)

[uneven forge]

Lmaoo that works! I knock 3 times. My OCD number is 3

[hollow raft]

Oh uhhh i do… do this thing… where if im counting something.. and i start in 3s… so 123. 456. 789… no matter what, i cant switch to 2s or 5s.. i have to stay in 3s

[uneven forge]

SAME

[hollow raft]

I do the same with 2s and 5s.. so if i start with 2… it has to stay 2

5s.. has to stay 5

[uneven forge]

2 is too little and 4 is too much but 3 is just right

[tardy ore]

So, hyperconnectivity means you get way better at processing one or two specific kinds of info and get way worse at the others. Like this probably just means the info was delivered in a way your brain can't brain very well

[hollow raft]

3 is the perfect number

[tardy ore]

The ocd symptoms are p.much caused by the same thing

[hollow raft]

Its how i build in Minecraft xD

[tardy ore]

Lots of connections = less flexibility, but more directed processing power so to speak

[hollow raft]

Im also that person that has everything possibly needed… sharpies? Yep.. altoids? Yep.. charger, yep.. freakin hand sanitizer.. yep

Ask and i have it.., i even had print outs of a book for class as an extra xD

[uneven forge]

Oh I’m a walking pharmacy. I have everything on me incase I need it or others. I have to carry things on me or I will start spiraling

[hollow raft]

I know nothing of medicine stuff.. literally i can be told take this much Tylenol and then forget it in the next 5 seconds.. stuff about medicine just poof gone

[uneven forge]

I have all my pills like heartburn medicine, Tylenol, and other stuff in a little pill thing that’s shaped like a pea pod :3

[hollow raft]

OMG do you know what i learned a couple days ago that makes me feel so much better (if its true)… apparently if someone is telling you a story.. and you reply with a similar story.. chances are ADHD is the culprit.. you react with a story to show you understand.. so its not a making it about yourself its a relating to them

[uneven forge]

Bro I may have adhd

[hollow raft]

I hope this is true.. or i am a very self absorbed person xD

[hollow raft]

I was diagnosed and given medication for it… but the meds gave me really bad headaches and so i stopped taking them

[uneven forge]

Honestly the more I learn about adhd the more it’s starting to make sense like how did no one know when I was a kid…

Oh no ;; that sucks I’m so sorry.

[hollow raft]

Do you happen to have.. like in your room… a corner for these items.. and a corner for these ones.. and these go here

[uneven forge]

Controlled chaos? Yes my desk is the perfect example

I cannot put anything away or it is gone forever

[hollow raft]

I have a corner for my nerd stuff.. a corner for my stuffed animals

[hollow raft]

I do that with laundry.. i keep putting stuff in the washer then just leaving it and never moving em

[uneven forge]

I cannot put clothes up. They will be moved from the bed and desk until I get to it

[hollow raft]

I live out of my clothes basket.. fear meeeee

[tardy ore]

That makes infinitely more sense than all the made-up moral judgment nonsense of accusing people of "making it ahout themselves" with no basis

[hollow raft]

Right?! Its just kinda like.. “wait a minute 🤯”

I still feel bad but now i know why xD

Im not a rude blunderfluff after all

[uneven forge]

So it’s not normal to tell a similar story to show understanding?? 😂 like if my friend told me they fell down the stairs I would go “oh my god are you ok?? That’s sucks. I’ve almost done that too in like high school”

[hollow raft]

Yeahhh apparently your suppose to keep the convo on them? i never do xD

[uneven forge]

See that’s where people are wrong. It’s called a conversation for a reason!

[hollow raft]

And if i cant relate.. i just go “oh cool” and then cant speak

[uneven forge]

Honestly same. Sometimes I tell them idk how to react to this sorry

[hollow raft]

When someone is sad… i literally just sit there and just like hmm hmm wow look at this table. Pat pat and then go back to table

Or offer them water

Idk why i always do

[uneven forge]

I try to make people laugh

Laughing does help when you’re sad sometimes!

[hollow raft]

Give them food… you cant be sad while eating, its weird

[uneven forge]

True true. Food is so good

[hollow raft]

I do that thing… where if im crying, i question why o cry then i feel dumb and stop crying

But then i feel like crying but cant

And now im just frustrated

[uneven forge]

Emotions are weird. I’ve gotten a bit better at working through them. I get that thing where if I’m frustrated I just get angry. I think it’s a symptom of adhd to get so overwhelmed you just get mad. I’ve been getting better at going “ok why are we mad?”

[hollow raft]

I believe its described as… uhh disconnecting yourself from the problem, i hate it but its like an instinct response

[hollow raft]

I was once walking at night… closed my eyes, took a deep breath, and started tearing up… no explanation, just huh

[uneven forge]

Sometimes a good cry is all ya need

[hollow raft]

I like crying then sleeping… sleep when sad is divine xD

[uneven forge]

Oh it is! Sometimes you just get sad and it’s ok! Sometimes you gotta have your sad days

Get comfy in the bed and just sleep

[hollow raft]

Im on anti depressants and i still gets sad

Idk if it means i should up my stuff or not

[uneven forge]

Same! I tell people that they don’t fix everything and sometimes you get those sad days

[hollow raft]

Idk the extent of what they do.. like are they suppose to work like how spongebob sees the world, or are the suppose to neutralize you

If its the neutralize part then im good

[tardy ore]

This kind of thing is what we can call... A wrong explanation. Attacks on moral character are explanations used by people who don't actually know what is going on but find it socially convenient or emotionally self-assuring to judge anyway.

[uneven forge]

That’s a good question. I think it just kind keeps the brain chemicals happy?

[hollow raft]

So from what i was told… depression is brain chemical being out of balance.. and the meds help balance them back to “normal”

[tardy ore]

All those arbitrary social "rules" that are invisible and unspoken but people will punish you for either violating them or just asking about them are ridiculous.

[uneven forge]

I think! Mental health is so complicated honestly. It’s wild how my depression is so different from yours even tho it’s the same diagnosis

[hollow raft]

Yeahh thats why. From what i have been told.. is im insensitive, cause i just say whatever

[tardy ore]

Lmao same

[hollow raft]

For example, i was talking sheet about a student next to their mom

Just cause i had stuff to say and so i says it

Get bent lol

[uneven forge]

Oh no 😂

[tardy ore]

As I said, moral judgment is what people say when they can't answer things properly 🤣

[hollow raft]

Okay so the girl i was talking bad about… she was in the choir concert and was singing over the entire choir

That’s all i was talking about

[tardy ore]

I fail to see the problem with bringing that up

[uneven forge]

Oh that’s not too bad. If she got upset about that then yea that’s her issue 😂

[tardy ore]

Politeness and formalities are just wasted processing power to my brain

I just cannot

[hollow raft]

Its a choir! You harmonize! I should not hear you ober everone

[tardy ore]

I just don't bother lmao

[hollow raft]

Yeah when i was saying it… my friend was ignoring me then punched in the shoulder for being rude

Its choir! A performance! Your going to get judged let me do that!

[uneven forge]

Yea! I’ve been told I am blunt and don’t care about things but I am legit a tired frog. I gotta pick and choose what I wanna be angry about

[tardy ore]

I never liked group singing stuff though. As I mentioned way earlier, I have literally no sense of group belonging or whatever

[uneven forge]

I can’t sing to save my life so choir scares me

[tardy ore]

A choir to me is just a bunch of individuals singing at more or less the same frequency and timing

[hollow raft]

Oh also one time… my friend did a solo for the choir.. and she masked me who was my favorite solo… and i said i like this person the most… she got mad at me and left the room

My other friend said that was rude

What did i doo

[tardy ore]

It's supposed to have an ~effect~ on people but not me

[uneven forge]

I love working in groups but I can be a bit overbearing I think? I just like to make sure everyone is included

[tardy ore]

Wow, almost as if "rules" of "politeness" are mostly just about lying in highly specific ways.

Hmmst

[hollow raft]

I literally without hesitation and a how dare you tone said “its my opinion, im not gonna change it just because”

[uneven forge]

But she asked you who was your favorite and you answered 😭

[hollow raft]

Yeah its my opinion, scuse me for having the wrong one

Like i dont understandddd

[uneven forge]

People can be a bit weird sometimes but it’s ok! Honestly I like when people are blunt.

[hollow raft]

Im not very smart when they arent blunt

Either say what you mean.. or make it insanely obvious you mean the opposite

[tardy ore]

Truth

Neurotypical social norms are just so weird and arbitrary.

[uneven forge]

As I’ve gotten older it doesn’t hurt my feelings as much when someone tells me no they don’t want to do something like if I asked someone if they wanted to go get coffee and they said no like ok! That’s fine I understand maybe they are busy or not in the mood for people

[tardy ore]

Like... Seriously, most of it is just "this kind of lying is good and that kind of lying is bad"

Are you also expected to just guess people's wants or intentions without them telling you anything about those things, or only ask things if you already think the answer will be yes?

[hollow raft]

RSD.. rejection sensitivity disorder “ your not sensitive, your afraid of rejection that wil not happen bs being sensitive to rejection that has already happened”

[tardy ore]

If so, you may be a victim of Guess Culture™️

[uneven forge]

What more do I not know about myself

[tardy ore]

AKA bad communication skills "justified" by culture

[hollow raft]

I was doing lights for someone.. and they said turn on all the light… so spotlights, audience lights, and stage lights? Or just stage lights? As she walks away

[tardy ore]

I think they were putting something in quotes

[uneven forge]

Oh my god I absolutely hate that. Like give me specifics!

Oh XD

[hollow raft]

I do that when i grade papers to… if someone puts 4/3 when the answer 1. 1/3

I ask if they both fine

[tardy ore]

And also talking about people who ARE uncomfortable with being told no... I can explain why that is though

[uneven forge]

I will say I am guilty of the lights person. Sometimes I just forget to explain things well if they make sense to me

[hollow raft]

I dont mind being told no… i mind it when i thought i would be told yes xD

[tardy ore]

It's usually because the culture someone grows up in is one where a simple "no" is treated like a value judgment or tied to shame or something

[hollow raft]

Like idk how many times i have asked to go to the bathroom.. and my teacher says no as a joke.. and my heart drops xD

[tardy ore]

Like. Honestly. A more open and direct culture would fix those problems for most people

[hollow raft]

I was not mentally prepared for it i guess

[tardy ore]

Where people are taught from day one that it's okay to ask for things, okay to answer honestly and directly what you actually think, okay to just say yes or no depending on the real circumstances

[uneven forge]

Oh I do that 😂 my mom will ask me for like a pen or ask me to go check on something and I’ll go “no” as I’m n my way to do it.

[hollow raft]

Oh fun fact ahdh people… when your lying in bed and you get itchy… the itchy is actually your mind trying to get you to move cause it hates trying to sleep

[hollow raft]

My mom once asked if i was awake.. and i said nope.. she replied with a bad word xD

[tardy ore]

I also get that but it's sometimes literally just oops chronic nerve pain

[uneven forge]

Tell my brain to stop being itchy

The pollen level is so bad here I am just itchy

[hollow raft]

I believe in the school yearbook.. i was given most sarcastic im so proud of myself xD

[tardy ore]

I take medication for the insides of my feet and knees hurting

[hollow raft]

I dont have feet… i have foot 😭

[tardy ore]

Oh?

[uneven forge]

Aye chronic pain gang! I got the fibro but we vibing

[hollow raft]

Yeahhh i got a prosthetic legg

[tardy ore]

I have I Can't Believe It's Not Fibromyalgia™️

[hollow raft]

Its why i cant do blades and mechanical stuff… ptsd is a biscuit

And sleep issues.. also a side effect of ptsd

[tardy ore]

That is to say... My rheumatologist said by the standards they're using she can't technically make that my diagnosis, but I get the same meds anyway, because it acts exactly like fibro

[uneven forge]

You can take your leg off and hide it and say you can’t do anything since you can’t find your leg. Unless you have one that can’t be taken off

[tardy ore]

AKA goblin mode medicine

[hollow raft]

I once woke up… and couldnt find my leg.. it was hiding under some clothes

[tardy ore]

Or hide their arm in a big jacket/coat, and complain about things costing an arm and a leg.

Commit to the bit

[uneven forge]

Oh that’s a good one!

[hollow raft]

I once took my leg off in class.. and told them to pass it around 🙂

[tardy ore]

Hah, nice

What do you say when someone doesn't give it back? "Leggo"

[hollow raft]

It was funny cause someone just stared at it and said “ no thank you next”

[tardy ore]

Or better yet. "leggo my leggo"

[uneven forge]

[hollow raft]

I stare at them til they feel bad… works everytimee

[tardy ore]

On another note I appreciate that both my psychiatrist and my rheumatologist subscribe to the Goblin Mode school of thought

And just kinda gave me meds instead of gatekeeping

[hollow raft]

One of my friends.. has me as Pirate.. in snapchat

[uneven forge]

We all need to support goblin mode thoughts

LMAO

Could be worse. I’m Ben Stiller in my sisters phone cause when I got my braces off my teeth looked big

[hollow raft]

My friendship language is bullying.. so all my friends are constantly like “ well atleast i can wiggle my toes” and all i say back is wowwwwwww

[uneven forge]

That’s me and my sister! We constantly bully each other but it’s out of love

[hollow raft]

Sameeee

Everytime i see my sister i do s disgusted face at her and she does one back

Then she gets in trouble 🤫

[tardy ore]

Also can I say I just enjoy the unfiltered neurodivergent experience of multiple people infodumping about unrelated things in the same space

[hollow raft]

Conversation switching is the most stimulating thing ever istg

[uneven forge]

Same! It’s honestly how I talk about things. Randomness is a nice flow for a convo!

[tardy ore]

So much better than "no, it's Wrong to talk about something else, you have to do conversation This Way in This Order"

[hollow raft]

I cant do thatt cause idk how to talk about one thing for thay longgg

[tardy ore]

Can't people just relax and only have rules that are beneficial

Not just to control others

[uneven forge]

Yea the “correct” way does not work for me. Once I get a thought I need to get it out or it’s gone

[tardy ore]

If it isn't making people's lives better and happier why have it

[hollow raft]

Same reason why i never say “normal without quotation marks

I forgot the other “ i have failed

[hollow raft]

Capitalism?

[uneven forge]

Some stuff I can talk about for a long time like get me talking about bloodborne or god of war? That’s all we’re talking about

[hollow raft]

Did you say god of war?! 😈

[tardy ore]

True, that is a source of pointless nonsense™️

[uneven forge]

[tardy ore]

This emote... You're my little frogchamp

[hollow raft]

Its so cute xD

[uneven forge]

I love frogs. I gotta stick with the bit

[hollow raft]

I need to sleep, but i also dont wanna leave these adorable hoomans

[uneven forge]

Apparently someone on campus liked my frog stickers on my laptop and said “ I like how committed you are to the bit” like ma’am this is my life

I also need to sleep

[hollow raft]

Why cant my town be as relatable as this chat

[tardy ore]

It's early afternoon for me

[hollow raft]

I have pride stickers on my laptop.. i get the “customer service voice so cooolll”

[uneven forge]

My laptop is FULL of stickers. I like looking at other peoples stickers

[hollow raft]

I have so manyyy stickers omg

I dont wanna use them cause i dont wanna waste them

[tardy ore]

But are you a smal beaste with foure leggys

[uneven forge]

Perhaps 👁️

[hollow raft]

Frogs are cute… but im not a nature person.. i even panic a bit to flies

[uneven forge]

Sticker books!! Get those and store your stickers! They are a game changer!

[hollow raft]

Those are a thing?!

[tardy ore]

I just like making everything purple.

[hollow raft]

😳 my king.. purple is my fav

I have purple bed sheets.. they coolll

[tardy ore]

I'm most fond of royal purple or rich blue-violet

[uneven forge]

Yes! They’re called sticker book holders or like sticker book notebooks. The pages are release paper like the backing of stickers and you can put stickers on them and take them off!

[hollow raft]

Oh thats freakin cooolll

[tardy ore]

That's one way to stay out of a sticky situation

[hollow raft]

I like soft purples.. soft colors in general really… loud colors are well, loud

[hollow raft]

Ha….

[uneven forge]

I need to get more since I collect stickers from all the places I go like national parks or events

[tardy ore]

I like dark but vibrant ones

Bright things hurt my eyes easily

[uneven forge]

Shockingly I like green

[hollow raft]

Noooo! 😱

[uneven forge]

I love like pale green! Or blues

[hollow raft]

Purple is the color i came home to after i lost my leg… so its kinda engraved and a good omen to me

As a* not and a

[uneven forge]

Purple is a solid color tho

[hollow raft]

Everyone in town put purple ribbons up for me… some still have them up to (it happend 11 years ago)

I think

[uneven forge]

Awe that’s still sweet tho 🥺

[tardy ore]

Pale green ain't bad, although I like it as mint green. With blue I like ice blue.

[hollow raft]

Mm ice blue is really nice

Like ice

Ha ryyhesm

[tardy ore]

Huh. How old were you? Like really young?

[hollow raft]

Rythmes

Aaa

[uneven forge]

I don’t hate a lot of colors but yellows are the bane of my existence. I can’t tell some shades apart and I think that’s why

[hollow raft]

According to my math… i was 8 years old

[tardy ore]

Oh damn

[hollow raft]

Ew yellowww

[tardy ore]

I'm okay with yellow. The hallways of my house are yellow. Nice shade though, buttery, not too aggressively saturated

[hollow raft]

But you dont understand… i was on the stretcher getting wheeled into the hospital.. i saw my mom and crying…. AND I TOLD HER it was gonna be okay

Like tf

8 year old me is brave af

[tardy ore]

Me when I was on the edge of a hypoxia coma from covid

[hollow raft]

I never went into shock so i was relatively aware of what was happeninv

[uneven forge]

8 year old you was on the next level

[tardy ore]

Me casually getting out a map while my mom drove

[hollow raft]

Now im over her.. im leaving school cause of a headache

Here* not her

[uneven forge]

Make sure to drink water! Headaches suck ;; or sip on some soda since caffeine can help that too

[tardy ore]

"oh that sucks, I have dying™️ levels of oxygen. Gotta look for the next hospital though, this one has no room"

I have been getting temperature shock headaches lately

[uneven forge]

Oh god I remember those days. I’m so glad you are ok!!

[tardy ore]

Like, leaving air-conditioned rooms and entering hot rooms

[hollow raft]

I drink caffeine every morning… but not past 12… caffeine is known to cause nightmares and i already have issues with those

[hollow raft]

I have been having like heat waves over myself for the last 3 weeks.. the only thing that seems to help is fever reducers

[tardy ore]

Yeah, unfortunately my dad didn't make it. Mom was barely symptomatic, I got the blunderbuss of "survivable but permanently debilitating and also agonizingly painful for two weeks"

[uneven forge]

Oh man I can drink coffee before bed and conk out how does it feel to be normal

[uneven forge]

I’m so sorry ;; yea 2019 was. It a good year at all and glad it’s over. Heck 2020 was rough too

[hollow raft]

😭😭😭 i sowwy

[hollow raft]

Honestly my self hate issues made wearing mask so good.. i have never felt more comfortable at school then when i was wearing a mask

[uneven forge]

I miss wearing masks! I get to make faces under them! But I don’t miss the sweating. God my face was so oily after wearing a mask all day

[hollow raft]

Oh i do wanna say this just because it makes me mad

I have these bracelets… normal bracelets nothing special bout them

But they help my anxiety a lottttt like exponentially

Granted i have like 40 different ones lmao

[uneven forge]

Oooo I had to stop wearing jewelry since I would break them but yanking on them 😔

[hollow raft]

My mom… could care less… forces me to take them off for graduation (i play band so i was at all of them) basically i would leave early to have a mental break down SHE WOULD KNOW and could care less

I would be gone for say 3-4 hours after graduation and come back and get no questions asked

And okay my dad still farms (its how i lost me leg) and shes like “ you need to just deal with your ptsd and go help him”

Wtf

You mean forcing unreal amount of anxiety upon myself is the right move?

F off

[uneven forge]

Yea I don’t see how that’s gonna help like you could get your foot stuck in the dirt! And then what? I know how farming works there’s mud

[hollow raft]

You know what an auger is?

[tardy ore]

Exceedingly bad parenting attitude

[tardy ore]

I heard of those. They have layers and live in a swamp, right

[uneven forge]

I wanna say it’s a tractor thing?? It’s not the hay bale maker right

[hollow raft]

I hate you xD

[tardy ore]

Like onions. But not cakes.

[hollow raft]

Spinny circle blade thing that moves grains really fast

[uneven forge]

OH the grain machine 👁️👄👁️

[hollow raft]

Mmmhmmm

[tardy ore]

Ouch. I thought that was a thresher though

Aren't augers like chisels but not

[hollow raft]

My dad needs help cleaning the bins.. which is basically push the corn into the auger which is in a hole in the ground of the bin

So you gotta enter the bin

Frick that no

[uneven forge]

Yea no that’s not OSHA approved

[tardy ore]

Well that sounds awful

[hollow raft]

But of course my mom “ no its okay go help”

I did… helped like for 5 mins then got out and had a small breathing episode with a lot of whats the word

[tardy ore]

Again, terrible parenting

[hollow raft]

Pacing

Thats it

[uneven forge]

I may be an idiot but I’m not getting into a spiked machine 😭

[hollow raft]

Thing sterotype white Christian family

Thats her

[tardy ore]

"Have you tried just like, not having trauma" is the dumbest idea that is still unreasonably common, mostly among those kinds of people

[uneven forge]

What kinda corn y’all grow 👁️ peaches and cream corn?

[hollow raft]

MY GRANDMA SAID THAT ONCE… she literally saw my anti depressants and asked what they were for so i said “bad thoughts” and she said “oh……… dont have those” then walked out

Like omg she solved everythinv

[hollow raft]

I dont like corn… surprisingly 😳

[uneven forge]

Bro my dad is the same way 😂 he’s like “it’s all in the mind” like father no that’s not how that works

[hollow raft]

My dad tries to support but in a wrong wau

Way*

Like i would say i didnt leave my bed for days cause of bad days and he would say “okay but i have those days and i still get up”

Okay? So? I didnt realy both our issues are exactly the same

My bad

[uneven forge]

My dad is Hispanic so I guess him not understand makes sense

[hollow raft]

Realize? Not realy

** not ?

Aaa xD

[uneven forge]

Yea my dads the same way 😂

[tardy ore]

Well yes, that's the entire-ass problem, it is in the mind and that's a damn organ

Like, it's technically true but that's also like saying an ulcer is "just in your stomach"

[sharp grail]

lol i was just going to say

[uneven forge]

I mean this is the man that just told me you can fix your eyesight with carrot juice

[tardy ore]

Or four broken ribs are "all in your chest, you can still totally lift things and do football tackles though"

[hollow raft]

I use glasses., is quicker

[tardy ore]

Hey have you just tried not not having a leg

[hollow raft]

Yes 😭

Scuse me xD i had to

[tardy ore]

This is why I want to get into the professional psychology field

Out of spite

[hollow raft]

“Rub some dirt in it” or “ should i give you something to whine about”

[hollow raft]

So relatable

[tardy ore]

literally just threats of violence

mfw

[hollow raft]

“Back in my dayyy” well this isnt in your day now is it?! Grrrr

[sharp grail]

i have a neurological condition and yet nobody would tell me "its all in your head" like people might do with my mental health

it is my head. that is da problem

[tardy ore]

Back in your day everyone just repressed their trauma and none of you are fine, old man

[sharp grail]

thats probably true though

[tardy ore]

It's objectively historically true

[hollow raft]

“Mom i have hip problems”… “when i was your age i just dealt with it and kept working”…. “Yeah but you also complain about your hip pain constantly”

[uneven forge]

We have technology now 👁️👄👁️ the back days are over

[tardy ore]

All these ultra-conservative attitudes just perplex me

[sharp grail]

its over as long as you have access to decent healthcare

ive heard so many medical horror stories or even just bad stories from friends

[tardy ore]

Like... Brother you are suggesting that people delude themselves out of being aware of their issues

[uneven forge]

Oh man don’t get me started on that! I just went to the eye doctor and my glasses were the cheapest they have ever been!

[tardy ore]

Oh yeah. I was complaining earlier about the horrorshow that is quack psychologists who only entered the field for money and gatekeep people out of diagnoses and medication constantly.

[hollow raft]

Scuse me comedy real quick.. everyone is like “yelling” in anger and all i can thing is LOUD NOISESSS

Think*

[tardy ore]

I have literally zero patience for that crap, like... If you wanted to get into a job just to bully people with authority, get the hell out of the medical field

[sharp grail]

ive been feeling like my eyesight is blurrier even with glasses but i went to an optometrist and apparently my eyesight is not bad enough to get new glasses. which is good. because i just finished paying the pairs i have now

[hollow raft]

Did you know that becoming a psychologist (therapist) is actually part of that… unfortunately in order to medicate you need to be a psychiatrist to give the meds… so in a case of just being a therapist and telling them they need meds, you just send them to the next guy

[tardy ore]

Public healthcare is cheaper for everyone involved, so the American system is baffling

[uneven forge]

Huh! Maybe it’s astigmatism? That can make things a little blurry. Mine have FINALLY started to level out. My eyesight stopped getting worse for the first time in years 😂 doctors kept telling me my eyes won’t get worse by 20 and I’m almost 30 like say to go

[hollow raft]

I plan on doing psychology in addiction cause its one of my anxieties

[tardy ore]

Well, yeah, the thing is, doctors who don't want to do their jobs shouldn't be doctors

At all

And by do their job, I mean listen to, diagnose, and treat the patient

[sharp grail]

yeah psychologists and therapists cannot diagnose you. but when the psychiatrist refers you to a psychologist so they can refer you to a psychiatrist for a diagnosis i will simply not do that over pingponging between professionals

[tardy ore]

Not just scold them or accuse them of lying like some absolute lunatic

[sharp grail]

i know my experiences

[tardy ore]

Wat

This is insane

[mild pelican]

well, psychologists are technically not doctors
that's what is told constantly

[tardy ore]

Look, I got on a google meeting call with a psychiatrist and she agreed that I had ADHD within five minutes and gave me medications that helped

[mild pelican]

619 unread holy moly

[uneven forge]

Ye they can’t prescribe medicine but can diagnose

[hollow raft]

Also shoot i forgot to mention… that things my mom has done… when she took me to get my anti depressants.. they asked if i would like her to leave the room to answer some questions, i said yes of course… afterwards, shes like “ you can tell me anything” the frick? When was that the case.

[tardy ore]

They should be :v. I'm going to drag this field into a total overhaul of professional standards or die trying

[royal relic]

good morning everyo-

oh dear lord what is happening

[uneven forge]

Oh god it’s morning. I need to sleep it’s 2am 😭

[sharp grail]

they dance around diagnoses anyway even if they can somewhat diagnose

[hollow raft]

Rage of the neurodivergents!

[tardy ore]

Sincerely, how hard can it be to just do a job you're supposed to be trained for in some capacity

[sharp grail]

i wouldnt know

[hollow raft]

This makes me feel bad cause of the face he made xD

My eyes are burning from being awake lmao

[tardy ore]

Apparently half the damn field is incompetent people who will take one look at you, say "no you're just lazy and need to exercise more", and boot you out in five minutes while billing for an hour

Not serious people with serious professional standards

[mild pelican]

"you're sad? well, don't be sad, be happy"

[hollow raft]

To some extent it is true… exercise does give happy brain juices, same with eating healthy and suck

Such

Not saying no its correct all the time

[sharp grail]

no i agree

[hollow raft]

But it is something that brain happy

[sharp grail]

however there can be something else

[mild pelican]

but imho, people who deliberately make you visit them again and again without long-term progression are even worse

[tardy ore]

You see, the correct approach is to ask questions of the patient and try to diagnose things with critical analysis

[hollow raft]

Thanks for joining my Ted Talk 😊

[tardy ore]

Not just look and make something up about a person

Basic frontal lobe use

[sharp grail]

thats why i stopped seeing my psych, i didnt feel like there was any progress being made. but i saw her for a very very long time and i definitely can not say she wasnt a big help

[hollow raft]

My college im going to provides free therapy so 🙂 why not

[sharp grail]

oh i hope its a good experience for you

[hollow raft]

Me too, worse it can do is confirm what i already think of myself xD

[sharp grail]

i dont trust school therapists and psychs anymore

[hollow raft]

So nothing new

I trust no one

[sharp grail]

well tbf college is leagues better than school probably

[tardy ore]

I just think this field should have standards!

And be guided by reasonable evidence-based approaches

[hollow raft]

You mean gasp! Doing their job? Never

[tardy ore]

Yeah lmao

The bar is on the floor and many people will break out the power tools to dig under it.

[mild pelican]

the whole mental health care in my country is in such a poor condition, i can only trust the one and only psychiatrical institute in the capital city..

[tardy ore]

Where is that

[mild pelican]

despite there being numerous single specialists here and there, working almost from their homes

[hollow raft]

I dont got anywhere near me that does therapy

[mild pelican]

moscow

[tardy ore]

Oof

Russia gotta be rough lately

[sharp grail]

its good to have such discussions but if i get your insinuation right, since this is a huge server and you never know how people lurking on or in the conversation may react to it (especially without a content warning on the spoiler) please refrain from it

[mild pelican]

yeah.. and the very fact of being there is not helping either

[hollow raft]

I understand apologies

It gone lmao

[sharp grail]

thank you, and no worries

[tardy ore]

Best of luck, hopefully the whole dumb pointless war thing will end soon

[mild pelican]

thanks, i hope so

wish it would be possible to just leave it for good

[tardy ore]

No chance to bail out like all the upper middle class folks, huh

Ow

[hollow raft]

Ugh i hate water.. i cant drink it unless its almost ice cold

[tardy ore]

I ate water... It was pretty ice

[sharp grail]

looove drinking water but its been coming out of my water bar mildly warm 😭 gotta prepare a cold bottle LOL

[hollow raft]

Me: scared of creatures in my house at night
Also me: crawling on the floor cause i dont have my leg on

Me… omg im the monster

xD

[tardy ore]

Lmao

[mild pelican]

water is much tastier when you're thirsty and/or it's hot outside

[sharp grail]

its true but even in winter i would not want to drink warm water

[tardy ore]

I live in the Philippines. It's always hot outside

[sharp grail]

for some reason it tastes/smells like strawberries to me

[tardy ore]

Also warm water is blech

I don't like water any temperature below icy

[hollow raft]

I usually stay hydrated by.. 5 cans of soda? If i dont have cold water

[mild pelican]

warm water tastes like metal

[tardy ore]

Five? Damn

[hollow raft]

Broo i chug sodas lmao

[tardy ore]

Das a lot of sugar

[sharp grail]

omg thats not good 😭 unless its just carbonated water

[tardy ore]

If it's sugar free it's fine

Mostly.

[hollow raft]

Tbh… my diet on the weekends is soda and takis

[tardy ore]

Takis?

[hollow raft]

So soda is probably the healthier part xD

[sharp grail]

i still dont think consuming cola zero in large quantities (like i do kinda) is healthy

[hollow raft]

Chile and lime tortilla chips