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the CoD campaigns were also havily advertised when CoD did campaigns
cough ridley
that doesn't change that CoD is mostly for the multiplayer
60$ is quite high for a multiplayer exclusive game
i mean, The witcher 3 came out at 40$ off the bat
point being, i hate games from nintendo at that pricepoint because they retain their value so well...
trying to buy used is a nightmare with nintendo xD
i dunno, I've found copies of used nintendo games for under 40 aussie dollars before
it's just a matter of knowing where to look
40
i bought Halo 4 for 8$
And it's still going to sell out
It's a good game
i bet it feels slick mechanically
i just don't like how it's priced tbh
and that some of the stages in the game are just reskins
but that's just me /r/unpopular_opinion
Smash 4 for the 3DS is still 30$ to this day used
;>_>
don't get me wrong
i love nintendo but i've just now realised how high they price their stuff
the 3DS uses such little/cheap hardware 250$ is insane for how much it actually costs to build, ship & sell
the Switch uses an x64Arm chipset that the Nvidia Shield TV uses
except, more dated
should be like a 180$ console at msrp tbh
but life doesn't work like that :/
except the 3ds doesn't cost 250$ anymore
Thanks Alma o/
Also it's been a minute, but @slow obsidian please watch your language! Proxy catches cursing but we get flooded with mod alerts, so
@grave island it's so hard to refrain >_>
You get used to it
Yes, well.
try using heck instead
heck you aggy
it works for me 😛
We try to keep it friendly and accessible in here, and limiting cursing is part of that
Anyways
_> is there a place for me to upload images aside from #fan-works
You can use an imgur link
boi
sorry, I tend to forget other channels exist when discussions happen
Whats popping Supergiantheads
only 2 infinity stones to go
once supergiant makes two more games after this gonna have infinity gauntlet as my background with each game taking up a slot lol
Does anyone know if there will be an early access version of Hades on consoles?
/when can I or anyone else expect to be able to play Hades on a console.
whats some good study music from any of the games?
Probably the Transistor soundtrack, Vegan.
Hey @ancient galleon ! Check our FAQ either in #hades-faq or here: https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades-faq/
Last Updated December 6, 2018: Here are answers to frequently asked questions about our fourth game, Hades!
What is Hades?
Hades is a rogue-like dungeon crawler from the creators of Bastion and...
Strange Voyage from Pyre
Strange Voyage, Shattered Lands, Surviving Exile, and Forbidden Knowledge are pretty good
old friends and to the stars
Thanks, Caithlin!
Caitlin *
So, it won’t be out on consoles until about a year and a half from now? 😕
It doesn’t run on Mac either. Guess I’ll just have to wait.
Man this server is having floods of users
Because supergiant rock and should have ALL the users 
big discords are scary but my love for supergiant overcomes all
Big mood, friend
Solid nickname btw
You can tell a few of us are playing Hades!! 😄
What little I've been able to play of it so far has been amazing! Big love 
Are y'all at work on a Saturday?
I'm trying to stay unspoiled until i can play it, so I'm staying out of the hades chat
but what's the trailer song called
It should be somewhere in the music chat
Out of Tartarus I believe
Yeap! Got work to do!!
Stay strong y'all!
Can't imagine what it is to launch a game just before a week-end, and with christmas so close... Wish you courage and good luck 
I imagine a lot of people come here to ask about when Hades will be released on console, considering their answer in the FAQ is rather vague.
you guys work on the weekend 😮
Hey Supergiant, just letting you know I am absolutely not touching Hades as long as it’s exclusive to the Epic Games Launcher. I love your games and I know you’re all great people, and I don’t want you to think I hate you or that I’m mad - but by making this exclusivity decision you have lost my interest. Best wishes.
maybe then it's time to state that I will use any platform or buy any console if that's the only way to play an SGG game 😄
Same

also steam needs competition, that would make life easier for everyone so I'm happy you are doing this 
@lean nebula I guarantee you that no one here thinks you hate us! No worries friend. 💖
just saw some guy on a polish news site saying that all the supergiant games are bad, bastion is the most overrated game he's ever played and that the only thing the devs got right about it was the music 
wonder what exactly makes that guy happy
:V
ha gotem
yes you did
thank you for that, I needed that
If you don’t like Transistor or Pyre idk what you would like
I can see not liking Bastion though
My brother hated Transistor
O:
He didn't like the storytelling and how the game didn't explain anything
But he didn't even get to Sybil
Before he quit
eh some people just dont like certain types of games 🤷 nothing you can do about it
Yeah
I don't exactly have the greatest of relations with my brother anyway so whatever
oh, i also remember that one guy on gog.com, in his review of pyre he said that the game is trash cuz "it's just basketball with three people on each side, how could anyone think that this is fun"
aaaah
eh, just his opinion. game wasnt for him. although thats not an excuse to call the game trash tho
Everyone's differant, it's impossible for everyone to agree on everything
It would make life boring if that were the case where it were possible

it's just hard for me to imagine someone starting one of these games up for the first time and after 15 minutes or so saying: "I literally hate everything about this"
Personally I loved how transistor presented it's story to the player, forcing you to think about what's going on
i personally just dont like people who say a game is bad just because they dont like it. like, i dont like dota but im not gonna call it a bad game
But like, subjectivity is implied
🤷
It's implied sure, but games have quite a few objective elements to them that "bad" isn't the best way to describe not liking something
if someone were to say that Pyre has a bad story because they didnt like it, then they're just wrong. if they were to say that they didnt like pyre's story or the way that it was presented then thats cool
Similar with music in general, you may not like let's say for example the bastion soundtrack (first thing that popped into my head) but it doesn't make it bad by any stretch due to how much went into making it what it is
On the other hand something like "call me maybe" or "friday" those 2 songs are objectively terrible songs on many levels
I find a lot of people are also not great at divorcing the idea of "bad" from the concept of "not enjoyable to me"
like for example I get very little out of competitive shooters -- I'm generally not great at them and that sort of ranked competition doesn't appeal to me as much as it does to a lot of people
that doesn't mean Overwatch isn't a fantastic game
it's just a genre that i don't enjoy, so it's never going to appeal to me in particular
I think this is happening a lot with fortnite, people who don't like it saying it's bad, when it's actually a well made game, that's just not for me/them
exactly
whenever I see someone say that something is bad bcuz of one very specific thing I'm super frustrated, this one time someone literally told me that Mortal Kombat X is the worst because Cassie Cage takes a selfie during one of her fatalities
at that point I was like
lmao that selfie is the (imo) best part of the game
if you're gonna crap on a fighting game for its fatalities, crap on Guilty Gear
because oh boy does that game have some weird finishers
I’ve loved all of Supergiant’s games thus far, but they appeal to a relatively niche type of consumer, compared to the likes of overwatch and Call of Duty.
I still haven't beat transistor or pyre
I need to go back to both of them
pyre the matches just take a while, and transistor the combat was a bit difficult for me
I agree that it’s silly that so many people can’t seperate the idea of bad from a subjective disliking of something, but the majority of people who play games fit into that category, from my experience.
Are you playing both on the highest difficulty, ever?
That reminds me, I should play through pyre again on true nightwing mode and get absolutely destroyed by everything 
I’m not usually that into it, but I really enjoyed the dark and gloomy atmosphere throughout Transistor, and it was complimented perfectly by the beautiful tracks playing in the background. Gameplay was enjoyable as well, in my opinion, but everything that contributed to creating the atmosphere is what appealed to me the most.
I didn’t find Pyre quite as unique or appealing in that respect, but the gameplay felt less repetitive and the allies and foes were more fleshed out, compared to in Transistor.
Each genre of game has their strengths and weaknesses in that regard, it's a lot easier to fully flesh out a character in a visual novel type game where the majority of the story/character interactions are mostly done through text, compaired to the isometric rts/action type game of transistor where most of the plot is presented through either the surrounding environment or vaguely given to you through the character interactions or experimenting with the transistor itself
That’s true.
will Hades be available on Steam when it's finished?
So naturally that will appeal more or less depending on how you like plot delivered to you
@neon kayak #hades-faq
oops
Personally I love games like Hyper Light Drifter and Transistor, where the plot is very vaguely given to you and it requires you to figure it out for oneself from what's given to you through character interaction and the environment around you
All good mate, it can be very easy to not notice a specific discord channel x3
there are actually a few things from Supergiant games that remind me of Hyper Light Drifter
the multi-dash upgrade in Hades makes me want to just zip around everywhere like a maniac with the chain dash from HLD
Chain dash in HLD is
i love that ability sooo much
Totally hasn't led to me falling off many ledges at all
Yo
Hi 
cannot decide if I should start playing Hades now or wait until its finished, what are you guys doing??
its amazing that they achieved that in such a short amount of time
I can't decide if I should buy it now or wait till I get a better computer, though with the way I keep putting off that purchase I might as well be waiting for the ps4 release
It runs fine on a bad computer (I have a 4 year old laptop and it runs fine), although you might need to turn down the resolution
how well does your computer run pyre, because it's super choppy on mine
Not great, but if it's super choppy on yours hmm
the trailer looks so awesome though I want
do i need a controller?
Nah, you should be able to play with mouse + keyboard
M+K works
Hades gets pretty choppy on mine during the first boss fight
Yeah to anyone wondering, Hades looks and feels finished. But there's only 30ish rooms per run and it is not fully optimized or balanced. But it is easily the BEST early access game in a long time.
Absolutely
Whereas a lot of companies use early access as an excuse to sell a buggy mess, hades has a lot of polish already
It's kind of awesome to see it evolving right in front of me.
I was streaming, and the game Updated MID-STREAM
So I launched it again and we were reading the patch notes and stuff
It was so badass xD
I never realized they had a discord up until now!
imagine a fighting game with SG characters
either way, I'm super happy to be here 😄 Time to download Hades and give it a try!
Creators of Bastion and Transistor. Currently working on Pyre, coming to Steam and PS4 on July 25th, 2017.
that youtube about page 😄
is a bit out-dated

roger that, thanks!
with pleasure!
Huh, https://supergiantgames.com doesn't work if you enter it that way directly, but http://supergiantgames.com will redirect you to http://www.supergiantgames.com instead of https://www.supergiantgames.com
Supergiant Games is an independent game developer in San Francisco, California. We created the games Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre.
Supergiant Games is an independent game developer in San Francisco, California. We created the games Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre.
Supergiant Games is an independent game developer in San Francisco, California. We created the games Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre.
Hey, you are right
I was just messing around and noticed that. The latter isn't secure, the store doesn't suffer from this problem though. Maybe just some htaccess redirect
That's odd!
It's somewhat of an issue for SEO, all your domain combinations should redirect to one spot, so if someone links Supergiant's website in any form, it always lands on the same URL. Although I don't think Google will make much of a distinction between https and http. I think most people would just grab the URL off Google to begin with, which points to the right URL.
I don't think this is intended behavior since you do use Let's Encrypt for your certificate on the store, but not on the main section
I also noticed that the HTTPS version of the site (not the store) is not secure because the content served is mixed.
For example
Should be served over HTTPS
If you check it, you'll see that it redirects to https, but the browser itself doesn't know that.
Just me being a stoopid nerd 🙃 . This happens to me sometimes when I forget things, they're small details, but details nonetheless
Just wondering if we're going to get a goodie box for pyre (and eventually hades but like that literally just came out so...
) because I bought the bastion and transistor ones and I require......... more. Always more. But also, y'know, please don't like... push yourselves
because you're already doing so much.
ok honestly i'm holding out for an art book
Ohoho yesssss
i don't need posters, just a whole book of the Pyre backgrounds, single images, the Transistor backgrounds...
(the posters are gr8 tho don't get me wrong)
Please tell me it's the kiss
ok, add SGG art book and 'a picture of red with the gold foil like klimt' to the list
i'm like...98% sure someone did 'portrait of adele bloch' but with red
but then again, maybe I dreamed it??
I've just googled and can confirm both portrait and kiss have been done
I did my own artwork for red/blue years ago but I can only find the wip now. I'll try to take a picture of it over the holidays. I've always loved klimt and transistor's style being based on klimt makes me so so happy
Odd question that I don't know where to ask. I've played about half of bastion and transistor, and kind of watched most of the rest including the end.
Should I.
- Finish those two games first.
- Play pyre
- Skip and get early hades
I'd say finish the games first before pyre cause that's what I did
All games are great and the endings are worth experiencing for Bastion and Transistor (idk the ending for Pyre yet)
Finish Bastion first
^^
Right. Part of the spoiler is.
I've seen both bastion and transistor endings.
And they're both. Really sad
Then Pyre (but I'm biased cause it's my favourite)
Yeah, in Bastion you get the choice
Otherwise, I'll take biased answer
It's kinda personal, y'know?

I finished the games chronologically (bastion, transistor, pyre)
But that's just me
hades isn't finished yet so i think you might wanna finish previous games first :v
I finished Transistor before Bastion, but I wouldn't say that's better
It's just the game I got first
I beat the games in reverse. Pyre -> transistor -> bastion
I had a really good time doing that
the gameplay is worth it imo
even knowing how transistor ends, i cried the second time
callback to earlier topic too: if SGG ever put out an IRL Book of Rites i would buy that
i just want so much stuff from their worlds
I did Bastion -> Pyre -> Transistor
I played them in order
played bastion, found transistor after I beat it, pre-ordered pyre the morning it became available
i will say (again, personal op here) it's really interesting to compare the games and see how SGG has developed and changed
Pyre is very different, whereas Bastion and Transistor seem more similar to each other, but Pyre just feels...right. like a proper continuation of Supergiant's work
I found pyre first after seeing Mark Brown's video about feedback loops
Then I played Transistor, and finally, bastion
And now Hades
I did transistor first after Totalbiscuits review of it, then bastion since that was the only other one at the time. Since then I've been following very closely as transistor and pyre are tied with Ori and the Blind Forest as my favorite games
I screamed louder than I care to admit with that reveal at the game awards this week o.o
Hahaha I think we all did
yeah
I was just like 'wait what omg omg thats so cool", clicked on the link, said words I'm not allowed to say here for about 2 minutes straight, and then bought it
^^^^^
didn't even check the price or what the game was about i just instantly bought no questions asked
sg has all my trust and my soul too
yeah, I fully trust supergiant
my response as soon as the SGG logo appeared in the trailer at the game awards was shouting "OMG OMG OMG" and proceeding to be giddy about the reveal for the majority of the day afterwards
Let's see, got Bastion first, played Bastion first, haven't finished it yet. Then bought Pyre, then a sale happened and I figured "lets just get the whole kit" and in came Transistor. Playing Pyre, will probably finish it before Bastion, and will probably start Transistor before finishing Bastion. (It's not that I don't like Bastion, I'm just not that great at it.)
When you watch a bunch of analytical videos about movies and shows that you feel stupidly inspired
Yess
@plush wadi Hey Morg, can you pass on to all of Supergiant two things for me?
1st. The stories, character development, color scheme, mechanics, music settings, and anything else I might be missing ... Are complete and other Master pieces. You, EVERY. LAST. ONE. OF. YOU. made me cry, laugh, get to that one point of sheer determination/rage, in a time where I needed it the most. not only with Transistor (the first game of Supergiant's that I have ever played) , but with Bastion, And Pyre as well. (there is so much I want to say, but the fact that I am like Red an at a loss for words.)
2nd. Thank you isn't enough, cause I have fallen in deep an hopeless love for you guys. I know I sound like a die-hard fan-girl ATM, but I guess I am.
I love what Supergiant is doing, so please, Keep at it! I would be willing to wait for however long anything you make gets out. ~<3
Also I really hope turning my text box into that isn't rude at all!!!
@polar rock i was just going to try get some sleep, and that was the nicest way to sign off. Thank you so much! You’re the reason we do what we do. ❤
I concur with Emerald xP
Transistor was my first game too
Then about a year later I finally got around to playing Pyre, and then when I was done with that I played and finished Bastion, and now I've finished Transistor four or five times, Bastion twice and am working on a third, and Pyre is definitely next
I love all these games so much and I really look forward to playing Hades
Hades is early access on Epic Games's platform. Worth it
Cerberus is the goodest of bio
Transistor was my first ever SG game
And I only got it because I was curious about how it'd feel if I was stuck in my girlfriend's sword
It felt emotional is how it felt T__T
that's some extra dedication to experiences)
imagine having a girlfriend

imagine having a friend
imagine all the people
Sometimes I turn on my transistor and get him to sing and flash because I love him
Huuuh I played Bastion first and used to comment on the blog when it had comments., Greg responded to those haha. I was well familiar with his work at Gamespot
I would be interested in SSBU if it had SSG characters in it
All I'm asking for are Kid, Red and Joldy
Ayy Amir has an actual icon now
🎊
4k members...!
almost 5k!
hey guys! just wanna say i love what u guys do at supergiant games! your art designers are some of the best in the indie space imo, amazing music everytime by darren, great narration that never gets old,and the attention to little details is just amazing ,the passion just drips off it! thanks for the amazing work each and every one of u do! keep being awesome
guys
do you ever skip dialogues in SG games?
i had this big discussion the other day about god of war and how it doesn't allow you to skip all these prolonged walking sections and how the option to skip cutscenes wasn't available until they patched it in
I never do unless its one I've heard before
I accidentally skipped one about 10 minutes into Hades so I got pissed and restarted my save 😂
especially now that in Hades all of the dialogue is fully voiced, I've probably payed more attention to it than ever
YES
Even after five playthroughs of Pyre I don't skip dialogue
I only skip the dialogue in hades now that it's started repeating
It still hasn't started repeating for me
I think
My memory's pretty bad so i might not have noticed
I do at the moment after I've read it because I'm deaf due to an ear infection but when I am well again I'm so excited to finally hear how everyone sounds
It's like another part of the gift that keeps on giving!
I love listening to sgg voices though, even when I've played the game hundreds of times
Late, but skipping cutscenes should be illegal
It always was
Skipping cutscenes that you havent seen should be illegal
I will never forget dying to riku and having to hear the same goddamn lines over and over again in the 1st kingdom hearts
"There's no way you're taking kairi's heart!"
Ugh
I would say it could be worse, but listening to the Riku the edgelord more than once is pretty bad
😂
that battle. That battle
gais, random question, any ideas where to get like good quality official wallpapers
Check the supergiant store! I know they had some wallpaper versions of postcards recently
pretty sure their store lets you download some wallpapers for free
@umbral bone we also have some wallpapers available on the game pages on our official site (www.supergiantgames.com)
thanksss will look into it right away
Yes

Allowed and encouraged! I love watching them. 👀
yes let the world see how amazing the game is:)
WAIT WHAT, A NEW GAME???
suuuup
sup
How would everyone feel about a supergiant con
Ala blizzcon
Of course it wouldn't be yearly lol
Maybe something like the Olympics every 4 years maybe ?
i assume you mean years, haha
Indeed I did
i hope you said every four days id show up like clockwork jfmfjfjfjf
supergiant con is everybody baking cookies and bringing them to the sgg office
Heyo!
You folks wouldnt happen to have a png for the Supergiant Games logo I can use for the subreddit?
Oh nevermind I found one as I said that

It's funny how the Hades trailer says "From the makers of Transistor and Bastion"
Transistor and Bastion are more recognizable than Pyre
Pyre didn't sell nearly as well as either
can't believe y'all did Pyre dirty like that hahaha it just got thrown under the bus

I think it still did well, just not as much of a boom
loved the story and art though
its fine ill talk about pyre to ppl enough to cover it 💪 hfhfhg
tbh yeah I was shocked as well when I found out it was magic basketball instead of the usual isometric hack and slash
but it's still goood
and I liked how the songs have so many variants
It's a game in a strange genre. A large part of the game is reading text, and the rites feel more like an excuse to have a "game" part with disjointed RPG elements.
Others say it's the other way around
A top-tier sports RPG with words in between
It's all over the place
is NG+ worth a try
Ye
I wasn't interested enough in Bastion's NG+ tbh
I liked both aspects
But maybe playing a lot of PES as a kid helped
Actually, it probably did
ng+ on steamhas a portal cameo and imo its worth it for that
NOOO BASION
(what's PES)
I semi-spedrun Bastion on NG+ tbh
wait what's the portal cameo
Pro Evolution Soccer
portal turret. baby girl....baby
Marketing-wise I think the game could have done better too.
how come I've never heard of a portal cameo lmao
The game kind of just hit it halfway out of the park with the reveal
and then deflated
its called gel cameo secret skill its for stteam only
Transistor is easily my favorite though, the insane amount of function combinations you can have is amazing
oh transistor fighting is the BEST
But see, that allows to be the cool gamer kids that say "dude you missed out on Pyre"

👆 Basically yeah
I'm not even a hooman 😛
Supergiant really didn't give us any room to get hyped about Hades lmao
they just went and released early access
YEAH IT WAS A SURPRISE GAME
I think the success of procedural games like Slay the Spire and Dead Cells led to Supergiant making the decision of going towards that type of game. It also fixes the marketing issue they had with Pyre where they reveal the game, and then it doesn't get as much fanfare as their prior games did afterwards to some extent as it becomes a fixture. However, and maybe that's just my uneducated opinion, but Hades being on the Epic Store is a risky decision in some ways.
There's a certain visibility that comes from being on Steam, and I would argue that's part of why games like StS and Dead Cells succeeded
I get the feeling that was kind of the idea there though
But we don't have a looking glass into the future
To get a more focused testing audience
I think SG is still trying to aim for Steam early access
No, it's not a testing thing, it's mostly a way for them to keep the audience engaged.
it's p cool that they supported the epic store though
more competition in the market
The fact that it was revealed at the game awards of all things kinda mitagates the risk of being on the epic launcher somewhat
you have hundrend's of thousands of eyes on the trailer
at the one time
I don't think that's the problem, there were a lot of eyes on Pyre as well, just half as many as Transistor did
half of a million is a lot of people.
people were hyped about the song from pyre
where as all the pervious announcement trailers you never had that, sure they had trailers aty e3 i think, but they were definitely not reveal trailers
Supergiant going for a genre that's already been done by other studios isn't a bad thing. I could say it also mirrors their decision to use mythos that already exist and put their spin on it.
mhm I love that idea
it's amazing how it's hard to believe Logan Cunningham was the narrator for all 4 games lmao
he sounds really different each time
maybe except Bastion and transistor
but I rlly thought it was someone else in pyre haha
he sounds similar in bastion ans transistor
yeah
in pyre I thought it was a completely different VA
He went Stephen Russel mode
But it will be interesting to see how this develops for Supergiant. Putting their game on the Epic Store is a risky move, but I think if that fails, Supergiant knows full well they can release on Steam whenever they want as a backup plan, and it's likely better for them to get their dedicated fanbase to buy the game on the Epic Store. Also this Discord also fulfills part of that objective; it will help launch whatever they put out there out of the stratosphere so-to-speak. It's very good to have a velocity on social media.
If they put out a Youtube video for instance, and 500 on this server watch it, it's 500 people that not only come off platform, but they're also 500 people who are dedicated enough to be on here, and thus they're far more likely to interact with the content, which will make their video garner more attention through the algorithm.
I just make everyone here sound like numbers
We're all numbers in the simulation called real life
Real life is just a terrible MMORPG with a tonne of microtransactions 😛
And going from the amount of interaction they got on social media, that was a resounding success for them. Hades has done better across the board in a week than Transistor has in many months.
Hopefully no reviewer plagiarizes another when 1.0 drops
That was great publicity for dead cells lmfao
I mean if they be, a) good publicity for the game and b) that reviewer will get found out and lose their job for being bad
It definitely wasn't intentional, no writer would agree to ruin their career to make someone's indie game popular unless they got something from it
It may have been intentional, humans are very strange beings and sometimes do things that make no logical sense whatsoever
wait... a reviewer plagiarized another ? Was he that lazy?
It was found out he plagiarised multiple times too
🤔
on one hand i'd love to apply for mod but on the other i'm unsure if i even have the time for that lol
I have the time for it, but I don't know if I'll be good at it...
you never know unless you try ^_^
i hope applying for this gets me more active in the community
nothing ventured, nothing gained so the saying goes
Wait a minute! Is that a Cubone in a raincoat!
That's an Aron is a raincoat ^_^
GASP
aron is also a very good boi
I got it commisioned by a good friend of mine ^_^
gotta stay safe vs. that water type damage
i too rep hoenn pokemon, and got my pfp from a friend
I LOVE YOU ALL
does that make "aggy" short for "aggron"
oh beans they figured it out

Partialy yes, and partialy my friends starged reffering me by that name, i liked it so adopted it x3
heyy @tulip cedar havent seen you in a LONG time
ayooooo alma
all this time lmao I'm like
it's been a bit, yeah
good to see you active in the sg community again :D
new game i don't have yet getting me amped to be active in sg fandom again
x3 is very similar to :3
yeah i figured that in the end
but like up until then I thought you meant multiplied by 3
gods i wish there was voice chats
and I'm like 🤔
Yeah, that's understandable, very easy to get the two mixed up
oh yeah, why aren't there any voice chats
Hard to moderate voice chats, though
i can only assume it's because they were processed
yep, thats the reason we dont have them here
ah right fair enough
If people in this server set up one for SGG fans, they could promote it in #self-promotion
A server for chatting, I mean
i mean, that exists
yeah
This place needs further moderation? I'll think on it
it doesn't appear to be there at present
and yeah, a server of 1600+ is gonna need a mod or 10
I can put the invite link in #self-promotion , in silicio
People selfpromote?
you know what let me self promo
i never guaranteed a thing about my promo
lmao
almus in latin means kind/nourishing
alma being the feminine form of almus
no clue if that's where the name comes from
but perhaps
and then alma was dlc for hades
congrats on becoming a mod btw! ✨
Okay, not getting Hades then, I guess.
You can wait untill full release where it will be on muliple platforms 😉
I haven't watched the video, but I saw a reddit post about Epic not complying with GDPR laws so I directly asked them about it and they responded to me saying that they do (I'll watch the video to see what is actually about but if anyone is worried about GDPR there's that at least)
See, this is literally the exact reason why I wanted to wait for steam
Always use corner store burner cards, folks
It doesn't seem like a difficult fix on EPIC's end though. And I'm a person with a personal vendetta against EPIC games. Offering my Paragon refund in VBucks of all things.
Just remember steams lack of refunds were breaking Australian consumer law until very recently after a good 3 year battle with the law over there.
No company is a saint ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just want a safe place to get my games and play them without having to look over my shoulder or check my bank statements


big mood honestly
is there any way on EpicGames to check how many hours you have played of a game?? Like how Steam does??
Couldn't find anything on about how to do that on the website
To be fair, the Epic Games store implementation is still in essentially it's infancy phase
I imagine these things will come
no i checked allready sadly u cant see how long u played
that's fine. no one needs to know how many hours I've spent playing certain games.
i like to know for myself tho
Fair enough. Looks like we'll be waiting for that feature for a while.
I'm not a fan of youtubers in general
Or the entire streaming extravaganza for that matter
👌
Epic does let you use paypal, so if you're worried about putting in a credit card that can work.
@wraith frigate it's legal department isn't, though.
@ivory hazel what? To log your in game hours?
Bye!
I guess it's easier than trying to kick the habit
Which I still need to work with tbh
and you can vote on it!
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I got a notification this morning let's said claim your unclaimed prize you don't know what it's from though so big sad
I completely forgot about this but GUESS WHAT IT'S SNOWING TODAY!
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Can it be a sunny day with light snow
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Sky looks blue snowy 'cause we Ven wants it to
vens just powerful like that
In fact there are already lasting snowy days in my city
yo
I wonder if I should replay Pyre, it's been a year
YES
Aight
always replay pyre
I'll probably almost tear up again at the best ending like I got in my first run lol
VALID...
It wasn't even the choice that got to me
are you really playing a sg game if you dont cry
It was the epilogue and seeing how everyone did what they wanted to and were happy
I didn't tear up at transistor
I mostly just had fun with it and killed all the robots
i havent played it in a while but it probably still makes me cry
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nice
Leaked image of them buffing the sword special
random question, do I need to have the epic game launcher to buy and play?
You need it to buy and to update the game
^
but it's DRM-free so you don't technically need it to run the game
ah just thinking if I even wanna mess with epic or just wait for the actual release
Hello, did anyone have trouble purchasing the game from the official website? Ive tried multiple times over multiple days. I have sufficient funds as well. No clue what the problem could be. Also sent a email to customer service but no reply yet. Thanks
i found that the game doesnt open without the launcher for me but its fine
@viscid canopy did you try through the client?
and also through paypal. i tried more than one card and it wouldnt let me until i did it through paypal
ah then I might just wait till steam release
if people are even havign trouble buying it
Didnt try via the client, only by website. Unfortunately I dont have a paypal.
trying through the client might work!
Oh man it appears im late to the news but NoClip is making a doc on supergiant?? omg I cannot wait
I love their work this feels like the best crossover in history
all we need now is red for smash ultimate
big mood
Has anyone made a "Building the Hellion" joke yet?
That would be sweet but doesn't really fit the mo of smash characters
Do smash characters have an mo?
A dog secretary can fight an angel slayer
Point is that red could fit just fine
idk, i thought bayonetta was too risqué to get into a smash game but they made her work anyhow
also i feel like if piranha plant can get in then it’s fair game
alternatively, i doubt it would happen, but I’d love to see jodi from pyre in smash
Build red off of shulk with his monado fx
I'd argue that pyre characters would be harder to translate into smash because of aura
I bet they could make a basic cast work. They use tangentially similar mechanics for characters like Greninja.
This reminds me of that time I saw some fun little fan concept for an "Indie cross-over fighting game" like Smash. Had Red, The Kid, characters from Furi and Darkest Dungeon and other indie games. It looked fun but it was nothing but a small little idea.
I take back what I said
I didn't realize Transistor was on switch
with the MO being on a nintendo platform
both transistor and bastion are on the switch
I can't keep up with what's on switch. I haven't owned a console in 4 years or so.
Woaaaaaat
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Wait is this you lot?
Ohh it is I see someone posted it already xP
My bad
Ahhh I was too busy crying about a 9 day work week @__@ to even bother clicking my little notification icon.
But this is exciting
something to look forward to
heck yea it is
Darren plucking the ukulele at the end has me so hyped
it sounds like he was playing downriver from pyre
How in trouble am I for "beating" hades before pyre? >_> I usually binge to beat supergiant games over a day or few but pyre is harder and I usually take a break when I lose haha.
Hades kind of had me in an addictive loop though.... Took forever to beat Meg, but not much longer for the hydra. Makes me more confident to take on pyre again
Who knew supernatural sports were harder than attempting to escape hell for me?
Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHAT is that NoClip video AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SO MUCH HYPE RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS AWESOME!!! When is that coming out?!?!!??! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL
how do i remove myself from a role
do the same command that you did to get the rank. If you already have it, it'll go away
afaik pyre is also a longer game than hades in its current state. (it’s the longest competed sgg for sure with an average play time of 8-10 hours.) you’re welcome to play the games in whatever order and at whatever pace because the only thing that matters is if you’re having an enjoyable game experience in the end
Every time someone mentions average playtime for Pyre, I feel the need to share the fact that my first Pyre playthrough took me a total of 44 hours
I read pretty slow when I'm trying to absorb what's going on, but not 44 hours slow on one playthrough
Bless being a fast reader
my first playthrough took about 15 hours
For me each took about 20 hours, give or take, each playthrough
@worn rampart sorry but how
Mine was like...20 hours give or take?
and I don't mean this in a rude way at all
but yeah
For transistor it was closer to 30
bastion too
It was more than a year ago so I don't remember exactly, but I always take my time to enjoy every aspect of the game ^ ^ ''
pyre i felt had less gameplay than reading so i just breezed through medieval NBA
I'm just worried that I missed things
Every single time the blackwagon stopped, I would just check everyone's item to see what they were doing, and also would check up on Sandra
^
I really enjoyed the moments of the game inbetween rites
pyre is more about the comfy in between stuff than the rites themselves imo
Superdupergiant
Yo
hello!
i just want to say that i have no idea what’s in the water of the supergiant office, but you guys are crazy
i don’t know how you have made this many consistently unbelievably games
and i love you for it 
Played Hades and Bastion, should I play Transistor or Pyre next?
Anyone works. You can go in order and play Transistor first then Pyre.
whichever
they drink games juice every day
if you're looking for a longer experience, Pyre
if you're looking for something fairly short, transistor
Thanks, I'll go with Pyre since I'm not a huge fan of sci-fi. Is there any replayability in either game?
I'd say excluding Hades Pyre is their most replayable game.
Or to be more appropriate it has the most replayable story. Transistor's gameplay is probably more replayable with the randomized enemies. But the story of Pyre can be rather different depending on what choices you make.
Thanks for letting me know, I'm looking forward to both
I like Transistor better than Pyre personally
But like, there isn't a bad game from Supergiant
Oh yeah. They are all great.
My ranking would currently be Transistor > Bastion = Hades > Pyre
Though it's hard to rank Hades since it's early access
I'd say Pyre > Transistor > Bastion.
They all have superb stories and I don't know if I can even really rank them but I did feel like the wilds section of Bastion dragged on for too long which isnt helped by the annoying enemies. Pyre's soundtrack is genius and as I said, considering they are all rather short games, I feel like Pyre is the one which best utilizes it's short length as it's story (and soundtrack!) has variables.
Hades is looking like it will end up having the best gameplay.
Although I will say bastion probably has the best ending of the lot.
Pyre > Bastion > Transistor for me
and no clue where to put Hades because for me it's largely about story/worldbuilding
which are strong for all of them, but ultimately Pyre's worldbuilding/atmosphere give it the top spot for me, as well as the integration of mechanics and story
Eh, I never really got into Pyre; the sports game aspects never really appealed and the fact that losing a match changed the story irreparably put a lot of pressure on every interaction (since you could never fix your mistakes, you have to live with them until the end)
See that's what's good about Pyre for me
failure doesn't cost you content, it changes the narrative
and makes the game feel like it has more weight for me
Eh, I very much disagree. It's like if in Hades, dying early in the first run would mean that you never got to talk to Nyx later on.
The fun part of these games, for me, is that failure is a challenge to overcome
Not an albatross that can never be removed
you can't really compare Hades to Pyre though, they are very very differant games
Oh, they are indeed
But that's why I like Hades more
In Hades, dying means you're a bit stronger to try again and do better next time
In Pyre, losing means a failure that sticks with you forever and can never be overcome
And philosophically I enjoy the first a lot more
that's not exactly the case
It means a different story, idk. Like if you fail you get more time with a companion, and a lot of branching things in the narrative based on who does get out.
Yah
and winning is also a compelling choice because of that imo
I like narratives to be based on what I choose to do, not based on how skillful I am at the sports game
But to each their own; I just don't think I'll ever enjoy Pyre as much as the other games for that reason
yeah I guess so. For me Pyre is what I always want out of games. It's really hard to make a game feel like it has genuine stakes without punishing the player for certain choices, and I think Pyre rides that line really well.
each to their own ^_^
but yeah, I get why it could feel frustrating rather than like just a fun time
I admire how Pyre has a different take on what failure means in the narrative, especially paired with how there are no definitive "best" or "worst" endings
^
Yeah. Part of it is also I struggle with anxiety, so hearing "your success or failure in a ball game irrevocably alters the story in a way that you can never overcome or try again" is an instant turn-off.
yeah fair enough. My favorite games in general tend to be kinda stressful 🤔
That's legit
(I do btw really enjoy Hades because while it's intense and stressful, each run through takes a handful of minutes, so taking the wrong boon etc doesn't penalize you for very long)
and for that you can restart rites and try again if you feel like you're going to lose
yeah, I agree with that as well. Hades is fun and interesting for completely different reasons. I 100% believe in supergiant to use the rogue-like genre's potential for storytelling really well.
that's something I never realised that existed untill True Nightwing mode came out 
enjoying it already and excited to see where it goes
(Also Pyre is not at all a bad game! I just don't like it as much as Transistor, which is a pretty damn high bar to reach)
yeah, there are no bad choices with SG games at this point imo
played through all the games in the last year after I discovered Pyre and very quickly became a rabid fan
I got into Bastion when it came in a Humble Bundle and have bought each as it came out since
On every platform I have
hades are really good omg
"Mac
Do any members of the dev team play Dungeons and Dragons? I feel like the races from Pyre would make amazing homebrew character options!
Greg
Indeed, there are a number of D&D nerds at Supergiant, and D&D has directly or indirectly influenced aspects of each of our games. In the early Bastion prototyping days, back before there was ANY artist working at Supergiant, monsters scanned from D&D books served as placeholders...!" And thanks to that answer I love you even more <3. It is not like I "borrowed" Jodi's design for my D&D campaign, not at all :x
Is there any particular reason you guys chose to write your engine in XNA over using an existing engine for Hades?
This is the same engine they've used for all their games
Just modified a bit over the 7 years since they created it
probably lets them personalize the engine to fit their games' specific needs if i were to guess. you can usually build tools in pre-existing engines, but this lets them create something best suited for their pipeline specifically.
i'm no expert on engines, but that's my guess
There's even bastion and pyre dialogue in the game files
Couldn't find anything transistor related
What happened to the non-Hades tech support?
its the very last channel now
Yeah, but it's -archived now
What's up with that?
if you have a non hades tech problem from now on you just die
JK IDK i was wondering too
It's double weird, they shut down a feedback channel just as they get their own feedback bot working
now that the tech support channel is gone everyone take a moment to remember the very first message uou 🙏
but yeah if i had to guess id say theyre trying to redirect tech support another way ?
@cursive galleon you were the one messing w channels last night right, whats up w this mystery? :0
Morgan made the changes though I had proposed some of them. The best way to get tech support is using the Contact page on our official web site, as we're best equipped to track and respond to inquiries there.
Referring to tech support for games other than Hades.
OOPS hfhfhg thats what i get for not checking the log itself 😅
There was very little traffic in that channel and, as we grow the number of channels on this server, we want to be mindful of retiring channels that aren't actively in use. The more channels there are the more intimidating it can be for new members of the server to get their bearings.
Speaking of which, we're over six thousand now
Seems like just a few days ago we passed 5K
And Jen still doesn't have her Supergiant role
if you remember when this server had like 30 people you qualify for a veterans discount
Re: Jen's server role, don't know what happened there but should be fixed, thank you for the heads-up
I joined after that, no discount rip
just found this:
https://youtu.be/ZxmyMaBZ-Mo
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Looks like an awesome place to work! Really nice and creative environment
Congrats Supergiant. Also. Do you peeps think Ashley Barrett is going to have a part in this anywhere? (she isn't in it, right? Don't have the game yet)
GOD I JUST NOTICED HOW GOOD THE EMOJIS ARE IN THIS SERVER


you're welcome for that one

and that one
sparrow, creator of emojis
bless
why isn't this called :swordboyfriend:
they have the same names as the steam emojis
aj finger guns are legendary
Greg is typing in announcements 👀
😂 i missed that when watching ahaha
Hopefully they used that Bed Bath & Beyond coupon 
Andhsvsb mood
gotta get through those if you want to charge your switch
😂 i saw that and it was a glorious few seconds of confusion
hhhhh nier,,,
i didnt know the text was there hdfgkj
most important part of noclip video: pot that is shaped like a heart
thats so cute.....................
i liked the pile of pies... and then i got hungry at work :')
I was thinking the video would be like a series of 5-7 minute videos so I’m SUPER happy with how much content was there!
tbh tho like i hope it feels ok to have them filming......................i hope they can still like feel comfy at work......... gjgkgjkgk
did you see Michael sipping some nice drink while audio recording
he looked comfy as heck!
yeah tho aren’t they sending the clips themselves? Don’t think there’s a dude from noclip there at all but idk
oh good!!
it was both i think, according to the introductory video
Cuz that’d be awkward you’d permanently be in The Office
oh? i thought it was like "one of our noclip guys lives near them"
YEAH
AAAA THE OFFICE BUT ITS SGG
i think it said one of the noclip guys lived nearby and dropped by to film for a few days a month
VERY GOOD
Ohok at least it was the same person so they weren’t like a stranger
yep I read that was well
SGG but it's a sitcom
"I think playhades.com is working"
Narrator: It was not working.
awww i felt so bad at that part
he looked so stressed
im glad the launch turned out well for them in the end
yes!!!
I wonder if Greg was typing the announcement here while at the game awards I wasn’t around right when the trailer dropped but it seemed he was pretty quick about it
might have had it copypasted and ready to send
i really liked watching the noclip video about you guys. when playing your games i imagined how you guys must've produced such wonderful experiences. it is just as deliberate and with the attention to detail and careful handcrafting as i expected. looking forward to the next episodes and to the rest of hades!
The noclip documentary was HNNNNNNNGGG 👌
How do I leave feedback?
go to the bot commands and type ?rank Early Access
if you have a bug to report, do that with the in-game bug reporter
F10
thanks!
@pine crescent there's an option to turn off auto-lock in the settings menu; did you mean something else?
ok, cool, didn't fidn it on my own ^_^
Altho disabling it for certain enemies would still be a good feedback
pot guys pathing is super offender
You mean make it so some enemies never have aim assist?
or when moving at least
mk, if you make a more specific suggestion along those lines i think it would be welcome feedback!
helpful mods are helpful, thanks @grave island ^_^
no problem!
I need to test a bit more though.
IDK how bad aiming at pots is on gamepad, and I remember hating on bomb throwing skellies dying at the end of the room, which locks you in place, unable to dodge their spam
@odd forge hey milk heyyy
KAM i didnt know u modded here hello !!
HIIII
THE NOCLIPS VIDEO WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad it was so long, too!!!!!
thanks to ur pic i realized the welcome message is messed up so thanks milk jfkcngb
Hi Kamilla, too 😄
AND ITLL KEEP ON GIVING !!! A FULL SERIES...
hi janeen!!
i got excited about the milk emoji listen
(through tears) its me...!!!
ill do my best to chuck some fanarts here during xmas break im so excited!! i didnt know there was a server
A....milk.....emoji?? Okay then 😛 LOL that is hitting my funny bone right now 😄 😂
You're a newcomer?? WHOO YAY In that case, welcome, Milk!!
I didn't know there was a server for ages, either--being here makes me so happy!!
Will Hades released in mobile apps ??
Not until it's out of early access I suppose, which will take 1 year+, it's on #hades-faq
Still, nothing confirmed at this stage
ahh.. well, will be waiting for mobile version, maybe like transistor 😄
hey! if i want to play all supergiant games, what ordershould i go with?
any order you like! they're not connected
it depends entirely on which story or what sort of gameplay you're more interested in
You could pick them all up at discounted prices at Steam right now
I recommend Bastion or Transistor first becausr those two a pretty similar gameplay wise and Pyre is pretty different but still really good
i have them all
i only bought transistor and i guess ill play it first
then bastion then pyre
Can’t wait for the next episode of the documentary!
Also shoutout to the one and only K120 keyboard haha 😄
Bastion, Transistor, Hades imo
this is Pyre erasure represent
haven't played hades yet, but i think pyre ha some of the most replayability of the first three
Pyre is by far my favorite of their games
but if you came for the gameplay with Pyre you'll me sorely disappointed, as the meat of it is the story
and the characters
ahhhhh im hoping to get hades tonight and im real excited
i havent finished pyre yet but im a sucker for roguelites and dungeon crawlers
you'll enjoy Hades then!
im sure combo that with supergiant games its freakin amazin
do you play with a mouse/keyboard, or controller?
why do all of the games soundtracks have to be SO GOOD
all of the ones with lyrics, especially in Pyre and Bastion
@pallid willow Be careful of the language please 🙏
But I agree, the songs with lyrics have always been my favorites throughout the series. Darren and Ashley have such amazing voices
Oh my god, I'm so sorry!
I'm sleep deprived, sorry for the use of any inappropriate language
It's all good, just try to keep aware 👍

🤔 quiet hours
I'm decorating my tree now and I just figured they could make ornaments, like limited Christmas merch or something
Imagine transistor lights
Figure it's a lot of work but it would look great 😄
😱
Would be cool promo merch
it would
Nightmare Fuel
Why not Blue's iconic symbol?
I thought we were still talking about terrible and frightening ideas 😛
A star of caelondia would be a legit nice one
Or an orb of rites bauble
I got the socks from the store yesterday and wore the Bastion ones today. they're so beautiful and soft. I kinda wanna buy a second pair to keep as art!
ahhhh i need to get some of their socks heck
well then, it started with bastion...and now im downloading pyre and transistor (cause theyre on sale and i cant get the dlc soundtracks unless i own the game)
but yah, fun
Oh hold on i have an official statement
👌
Is Hades a multiplayer game, or are there any plans for multiplayer?
Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind.```
damn
not a reason to not play it, but like...would've given me more of an incentive to buy it : /
still prob a great game
their other games dont really have multiplayer either ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lol wtf is with the mod names
snek overlords

i have no idea either


the dusa collective has descended upon us
Le dusa has arrived
oh you know !
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