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red would be the coolest cosplay tho
i wish there was an official version of her jacket its so pretty
aaaaaaaaa yes!!!
(sgg, probably: were a game company....for games.....we DONT know how to make custom leather jackets)
sgg: supergiant gackets
perfect. time for the company to move in a new direction
So the new motto is "We used to make games, now we make money merch"?
my Ideal Cosplay would be as the reader
I've totally seen a booth at a con that had really nice quality leather jackets and other accessories inspired by games
I hope I picked up a card from them. I mean everything was super expensive but still
hey....pyre t shirt. leather jacket. big black platform boots with spikes. black tutu skirt. striped tights. heavy liner. ABSOLUTE edgy chaos
dark purple or blue lipstick how could i forget
that is a powerful outfit
lookin like u walked off the back cover of a goth girl manga from the early 00s
.....i gotta assemble this and go to pax, dont i,
may i humbly suggest one of those rad lookin flower crowns w/ the spikes in
HMMMMMMM def some kind of headband......OOOOO DEVIL HORN HEADBAND
cait: ⌨
me: 👀
I have always wanted to cosplay Red, and I don't know if it's more appropriate or less appropriate now.
👀
oh way more
way more, just be at the booth in full cosplay, take pics with urself
what are they gonna tell u if u show up as red for work every day?? its unprofessional??? you Are Being your profession
Are all fandoms like this? The social dynamic here could probably be the subject of a dozen sociology papers. Not that I'm complaining, this is one of the best kinds of weird.
like what?
Nothing I can really put my finger on , it's just something to the way people talk that fascinates me. Maybe it's just that I've never actually observed a 'normal' social group before and actually everyone's like this. 🔭
oh huh....i think what youre seeing is various internet cultures being brought in and meshing together, id guess
have y’all seen the deus ex jackets?? i mean obviously thats a higher level than supergiant can probably achieve but they are from like a real fashion line
they are so pretty but so expensive 
oh, hi greg!
hope ur havin a nice day!
Tfw you guys talk about cosplay while I'm asleep
@cursive galleon Hey Greg, I never realized on the team page that you're the only writer I see listed. Are you solely responsible for the stories? If so, do you make a story that art is then added to, or does Jen do some random art that you at some point add a story to that turns into a game down the road?
Wait I missed cosplay
Dang
Also
🦆
(And I saw a Red at DragonCon last year, I think it’ll still be appropriate)
we can have our OWN cosplay convo!
I agree! So anyone got cosplays they're working on?
I do but it's not sgg
I'm sure that will be very nice all the same
I need an idea for a SGG game item to recreate in metal
I wanted to do a destiny ghost but it's too complex for my first project lol
I don't know about coloring stuff yet so trying to find something that will look cool even without coloring, just in case
But everything sgg is so pretty, colorful, and rarely metal
GUYS! Interview with @rain zinc about music in Transistor and Pyre!
btw you should check out the other episodes of Jake's podcast it's REALLY great! (they have a discord server too 👀 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sDAsJjVGo0&feature=youtu.be
Darren and Jake talk about Pyre, Transistor, dynamic music and much more in this jam-packed episode! Follow Darren: https://twitter.com/DarrenKorb https://ww...
@viscid stream Yeah I do the writing for our games. It's definitely not accurate to say I'm 'solely responsible for the stories' because we're a highly collaborative team and work closely together, though I work on developing the characters, world, and plot lines, and ultimately type the words and put them in the game (whether in text or audio form).
Story development is a collaborative and iterative process, and it's typically my responsibility to keep that work organized and moving forward. I often do need to adapt our stories to best suit the evolution of the design, art, and so on. A game like Pyre went through many many writing iterations before it took the form it did, and same goes for Transistor.
In addition to story writing I create our internal documentation around the gameworld, tone, and so on, which are resources other folks on team use with their work. I work closely with Jen on art, Darren on audio, Amir on design, and so on. Some of the benefit of being a small team is being able to do that and hopefully produce something that feels cohesive.
I am working on a non SGG cosplay
Doing the album cover from Trout Mask Replica because why not?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Didn't realise how much I wanted a Supergiant community till now.
welcome
hope you like it here
hi!!
@wheat jolt HYPE! Can't wait to watch it when I get home. Interview I saw last night was voice only type thing, but super cool. Had no idea about the layered music in pyre and transistor before the interview! Really explains that feel the music gives you and why it's so integral to the game, as well as feeling "alive" in a sense
@cursive galleon that's awesome to hear Greg. Thank you for the reply. I'm still amazed at the kind of uniqueness and quality that comes from just a handful of people. Although at the end of the day, a few people working closely together and sharing ideas beats people working separately and keeping most ideas to themselves, or just being unable to communicate one thing to the whole team quickly and get responsive feedback. Can't wait to see what the team will come up with next. Each game blows me away and is never what I was expecting going into it.
Thank you for your answer Greg. I'm sure everyone here is glad to have you here.
I would ping while wrapping up in a blanket in the corner of a room, chuckling evilly
but I'll pass on that for now
@viscid stream Thank you!! Your support really means a lot and helps keep me and the rest of us going and doing our best.
@cursive galleon Thank you, and everyone, for letting us all be here. If you guys ever need a cheerleader please look no farther than us! It really is amazing what you guys have made and I think all of it will stand the test of time, the real test. Turning a blank canvas into a masterpeice like you all have is harder than it tends to get credit for!
It is most amazing that you manage to bring all these people here, yet the server doesn't degenerate into the equivalent of anarchy in a bottle, like YouTuber discords. Perhaps this is a testament to how mellow the people who follow Supergiant closely are.
All Hail Supergiant! The DEVS have spoken to us!
@cursive galleon Any suggestions on character development? I'm working on a game of my own.
@clear thistle That's a pretty broad question...!
I like to think in terms of
- what does the character think they want?
- what does the character really want?
- what are the character's flaws?
Then triangulate.
oooooo, i love that what they THINK and REALLY want are separate
Yeah, the conscious and the subconscious/unconscious.
Sounds like Greg likes to write tragic characters!
I think it's very true-to-life that many of us think we know what we want but in reality it's not exactly the case.
pam comes to mind first but man, thats such a human twist !!!!
e.g. someone who wants fame probably wants acceptance, etc.
- thinks they want fame
OOOHHHH.......real tru tbh 😔
so then character development is the character realizing they didn't really want fame, they just wanted someone close to them not thinking they're a piece of garbage all the time
Stop it Greg! I can only cry so much. I will make myself a bunker, no supergiant games allowed!
(as an off-the-top-of-my-head, hopefully-not-too-revealing example)
HHHHHHH U KINDA READ ME FOR FILTH THERE ,,,, perfect tho
(with no relevance whatsoever to any work I may or may not have worked on or been working on)
I've noticed characters in your games all have some sort of motif to them. Perhaps it's because of this approach.
They all have a very clear distinction in their character.
That's either attempts at consistency or me being a hack!
YES
shhhh no spoilers pls
though yeah, I also like to think in terms of 'what is this character doing for the story / what dimension of the theme does this character represent'
As you've seen our games tend to have a tonal range, with some funny stuff and some serious stuff and shades in between, and it's fun to have different characters representing those different degrees along the range
But your writing really makes the characters distinct from one another. Jen's art style also carries that. Must go hand in hand with what you talked about earlier
Yea, tones
We talk lots and lots about tone and where tonally each character 'sits' within the boundaries of a given game we're working on.
u really get the feeling that sgg games are like.....everyone hand in hand, its nice
u hear abt some companies that are like "ya i didnt kno the role i was acting for" or "these two level developers didnt look at the others work till it was done", sgg is like......working together
I've wondered a while about Pyre's tone. It seems very jolly, in both its color palette and its characters. You're on this journey with all these characters, and despite how dire the situation is, your bonds with them will carry you through in some sense.
It could also have been an incredibly depressing game all around.
The Downside is really not a nice place
pyre feels to me like a witness to difficulty :') like it can observe and hold your problems if you need it bc the whole crew has issues
They do, but it never feels like the environment is the main issue. Well, that sounds weird since they're all exiles who in one way or another, want freedom. I suppose the best way I could put it, is that all the characters have some issue or motivation. The issues are carried by the characters, not the environment, and they're the interactions you get.
yeah!!
i think its nice, and it lets you feel that together-we-are-strong-ness
bc youre not really thinking about the awful downside, youre thinking abt your nightwing friends!
Hmm. Thanks @cursive galleon. I had been thinking of NPC characters you interact with in terms of jobs, but also giving them great personalities. Like what I'm working on right now- the Void Salesman, a shady, yet cheerful character that is somewhere between the Merchant from Resident evil 4 and Cayde-6 of Destiny.
Would this work, or do you suggest any tweaks?
His job? Sell you potentially cursed and dangerous items for a bit more fun.
Or is this the wrong channel for that?
I don't know if Greg is trying to reply, I'm typing some meanie things
I think that makes sense! I really like attaching characters to systems. Falcon Ron and Sandra from Pyre are examples of things that could have been character-less but I think benefited a lot from the attached personalities.
The game Hollow Knight has a fantastic example of this in its cartographer character (and you can probably think of many examples of your own). If it's a flavorful character it's already good, and if you can sneak in some development over time, even better.
You have a lot more tact than I do Greg hohoho
fiorinol, thank goodness he does 😂 😂 😂
Thanks @cursive galleon
we can all learn from his patience and graceful "its up to interpretation" deflecting technique hfnfnvmcncnv
I'm no writer, but personally, I think the character needs some work. Words are supposed to convey something, but in this case, I'm not sure what "shady but cheerful" is supposed to mean. Are shady characters never cheerful? You're also trying to convey what the character is supposed to be by mixing two characters from existing franchises. It's fine to inspire yourself from things, but I think if you had a better mastery of your character, you'd be able to describe in a way that I can kind of get it. I would also follow Greg's advice from earlier, Greg said he likes to gravitate his characters around their desires and their flaws.
Games where you can see characters other than the protag develop over time are really good
See, I'm being a meanie
Like just passing by an adventurer then seeing the same one later or whatever
Small things
The characters don't need to be developed in some cases
In the case of Cornifer I would think
The thing that's interesting with him isn't necessarily the personality, but how you get to find him
Btw to clarify -- I was commenting broadly on the idea of NPCs-in-terms-of-jobs, not giving feedback on the specific idea. It's not my place to give feedback on specific character/story ideas for a bunch of reasons...!
It's fine, I got what you meant.
I just thought you were dozen times more tactful than I could ever be. I should look up to you as an example haha
Ah. I mean that the Void Salesman is implied to be dangerous, other characters warn you to not go to him, but, yes he has cursed/otherworldy gear for sale, but his personality is disarming.
fio? honestly no joke i have gotten out of oversharing at like, job interviews, by going "how would greg answer this question?" in my head
WISE WORDS
@cursive galleon glad to know that hearing from fans keeps you guys happy and motivated 😃 this is seriously the first discord channel that I actually feel like I really want to hang out in and keep engaging with. Something about the games and the fans they attract really say something about your team and what magic you've all created!
I'm a bit late to the chatting, but if you don't mind one more question Greg, is there a reason for the crazy jump in characters between the games? It was 3 years from bastion > transistor and 3 again from transistor > bastion, so it doesn't seem like a time constraint. Or is there no method to the madness here, and it's just what happened to fit each story/world/gameplay style best?
wtf i missed deep greg wisdom smh
ive never seen greg type so many words in one post before 
greg can be very wordy, i mean, just look at pyre :')
:’’’)
@viscid stream If by 'crazy jump in characters' you mean the relatively large size of the cast in Pyre, that was just something we were excited to try after having living in Transistor's world for several years. It was a big new writing challenge for me.
My take on it was pretty simple going in -- our characters from Bastion and Transistor seemed to be well regarded, so I would like to be able to make more characters. Jen loves illustrating them, I love writing them, let's make a game where there's room for more.
(That's of course not the entire thought process but it's some of it.)
i wish i had your job
go write a game then......make it happen
🔪 watch out supergiant i’m coming to write your games
ay u hirin
🤝 collaboration
no i can do more cursed than that
hey you know, we used to do that in middle school
oh yeah i remember that
everyone writes a sentence of the story on a page
we pass it all around the classroom when the teacher isn't looking
yeah!!!
has anyone done the thing where you fold the paper into thirds and everyone draws a third of the character
AAAA YEAH
or you draw a line down the middle and draw two ppl kissing but you dont know who
lol i havent done that one
its funny when the hights are like, way different hfhjfjhfhj
the art in splatpergiant games is also round robined
what about the code
yes
One line at a time, everyone, including the people who aren't programmers, get a go
can we actually do a round-robin/cadavre exquis that sounds rly fun
inpbot part 2: this time with crowdsourced code
This time with even more commands that spam channels
INP 2: INPCLUDING EVERYONE
PERFECT
:no: :bleaseth:
HFKJHFKJHGVKJG SPECIAL NEWP INP EDITION
ok everyone programming class today im teaching u guys how to create a command that spams a channel
@cursive galleon Thank you again for the answer! I would love to see more characters from both you and Jen 😃 I also meant how Bastion was 1 main character, 1 narrator, and 2 supporting characters. Then transistor had 1 main, 1 narrator/supporting, and I forgot the count, but quite a few more...."other" characters? Not really villains, but not supporting either? Either way it had more people, more backstories. Then Pyre as you know had a whole cast, with even more and more other characters not in the main party, on top of a great main cast in your own party.
me neither!
i cry and get frustrated until i google it and copy-paste code from stackoverflow
my biggest coding accomplishment is when i figure out how to add custom cursors on a tumblr theme
tbh the inp is probably my greatest accomplishment coding-wise
Don't worry, nobody really knows how to program
It's just magical internet wizards telling you what to do
largest project I've ever done
i opened up renpy once and it made me cry so i immediately deleted it
inp is a real inpccomplishment
Games!
can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace? i dont think so
i dont even know what that is
GAME ENGINES EASY TO USE:
-twine
-microsoft powerpoint
i have an idea for a game in my head but i also have no idea how to execute it even though its something really simple..
is unity easy
no clu
who would win
method header(){
}
method header()
{
}
LOL ACTUALLY YOURE RIGHT
oooo what idea?
I've made a lot of game prototypes and I nearly almost finished something in time for a game jam kind of
i could make it in powerpoint
Kelp, EVERYONE gets frustrated and copies code from stackoverflow
The second one, you're wrong if you use the first one
i should probably learn that since im planning on majoring in game design 
guys what if
Pyre: Powerpoint edition
HFHJFHJFHJFJH
If we're offtopic now let's move to offtopic
ok
smh
I love the underlying philosophy behind the games as well. The questions and the feelings it evokes really give them a special place in the heart. Without getting spoilery of course.
Tbh the biggest reason I bought Transistor was the music. I barely knew what the game was about when I bought it. From there on I went and got the other two games and osts.
Oh yeah I come back to the music almost daily hehe
Ah, curse my normal sleeping hours and timezone
@neon kayak especially pyre for me so far. I need to beat it though so I can have a full opinion >_>
Oh maybe Greg can finally push me through it lol. I feel the game is MEANT for you to take a loss or two, but every time I am about to lose I alt+f4 :( reminds me of my old fire emblem days of quitting before losing anyone
Although it's not the "final" match I'm talking about.... Just a regular one in the main loop of the game. Can't get over that fear, and the less I play the worse I get and now I'm losing even on the first match when I start it up :x
I guess an alternative is new game, practice until I never lose..... And then proceed to never lose a match?
I found it difficult to lose even with the stars and higher difficulties
but I'm not a good reference
@viscid orchid I can't me good with 2d games for some reason. Isometric I can do OKAY. Platformer? I couldn't even beat LIMBO. @_@ 3d games though? No issues. I almost always play on hardest difficulties.
Bastion was great, transistor was a lot harder for me. Could do normal but ng+ was a bit too tough half way through or so
Great meaning I beat it without difficulty, and used the gods to make things more tough. Transistor I never used the things that made it tougher. Pyre I used the stars at first but since I started losing I've disabled them all
Oh hey it's @abstract carbon hello from the other side of Internet communication
I am everywhere!
(opens my front door) (michael is there)
EVERYWHERE
😱
hes got a m-eye-chael on us all
By that logic...
Welcome to Moscow, Russia, I guess
And at the same time - Pyongyang, North Korea
yeah!
And a whole bunch of unsavory places
yeah, he's having a great time in both those places and more!
@abstract carbon is in super smash ultimate
I need to find my green-screen photo
Now I wonder if @abstract carbon is the same person that's replied to all my emails to SGG in the past
All like.... 2 of them. But still
You will regret giving that to me friendo
Were all SGG games $20 on launch?
Nope, Bastion was $14.99 at launch
even if someone else replied, it was still michael who replied!
hahaha
I was just going to comment how I'm surprised at how cheap $20 was :o
I feel bad. Only spent $55+album costs and I've gotten more value than any $60 game I've had
Time to go finally buy merch I think
*pyre merch
Already have some transistor and bastion :)
Pyre T-shirts are awesome
As an added bonus one can feasibly sneak into metal concerts in those
the downside is, when i see someone wearing a metal t shirt, im like HEY YOU LIKE PY-aw,
haha
I'm kinda sad that in a lot full of 4000+ people I haven't found anyone into games or technology besides the VR team.... Which is a whopping 2 people lol
Uh oh. I'm being off topic on the wrong channel. Time to go home from work anyways
games? technology? hewwo? 👀
Exactly :c
im wearing my metal af jodariel shirt rn lol
it 100% looks like album art and i love it
I don't know if i should buy it or not
Jodariel is my fav character but I'm trying to wear more colorful things...
It's time for colorful Jodariel Iris
Are you suggesting that I color her in? lol
happy bastion day!
Hey, if you're looking for an appropriately sized bandana to cosplay as the Kid, I found one as a red table decoration of some kind. It works really well.
🤔
oh right the character wears one more like a scarf
@abstract carbon I would love to know how much AI in video games is held back by hardware at the moment. Might be a better question for Gavin, but I'm sure he's always busy hehe. The AI in Pyre on higher difficulties is impressive to me, from a layman's point of view. I just wonder if it is hardware that is holding more "life-like" AI back in other games. Or just general thoughts on that.
This might be a good question for @plush wadi or @rain anchor !
How did I not realize Amir was Amiracle, hahah.
Yo are we able to promo speedruns of supergiant games' games for charity in this server?
Sorry can't English well too tired
yea sure!! its sgg games so 👍
Yeah if I'd personally love to hear about any running tbh! I love watching speedruns.
"You're speedrunning the worst game"
oof
"Bastion is better than Transistor"
What is chat smoking?
:00000000 "the worst game" how dare they
I have multiple friends who dislike Transistor big H
Anyway I hope nyall are doing well!! Bye bye for now 💖 👋
if I’m being totally honest I did enjoy bastion more than transistor
But they’re both REALLY good
Transistor is like the game I would make if I had a million dollars.
youre gonna get rich and just blow it all on making a game that already exists??? 😂
I would finance the sequel Capacitor =D
i havent even played bastion yet oof
one million dollars to stare at a postgame cloudbank for hours smh.........make a new game w the same vibe hjgjhgjhkgjk
i would kill for another game with the same cyberpunk-but-also-art-nouveau aesthetic of transistor
i mean that 👀 🔪
-do an assassin job
-get one million dollars
-give it to carnagewake
-they use it to make a transistor-feeling game
-perfect end
the brightest timeline
why wouldn't we just fund Transistor 2: Despacito's Revenge

descapuccino
this is so sad red hum despacito
Oh no ;-;
bastion is def one of my favourite games
transistor was neat but I wasn't as in to it
I'd probably like pyre more if I'd actually play it but I just CANT
Pyre is still the only game out of the three I’ve played, but I bought Bastion a few weeks ago.
Transistor 2... Makes you wonder what games are next for Supergiant in the future...
Well not sequels, hopefully
transistor 2: this time its even more personal
transistor two: You Are Red
Transistor 2: Bastion
omg
Bastion 2: That One Time You Started Over But Something In The Bastion Went Wrong And Now Its Pyre
cant wait to play transistor two (exactly the same as transistor but the opening "hey red" is from rucks)
this takes 5 years to be done and released for no reason
transistor 2 is like ng+ except royce is there the ENTIRE time
😍
transistor asmr edition
Pyre 2: Manley
pyre 2: youre the archjustice and you have to yell at the characters
Pyre 2: Its Just Curs Down There Playing AirBuds
Transistion: The process strikes back
the process has struck enough, please no more, theres no cloudbank
SuperGiant Games: Electric Boogaloo
tired: sequels to supergiant's games
wired: sequel to supergiant games
Supergiant Games 2: Return of the Gays
Bold of you to assume they ever left
Supergiant Games 2: More Gays
Happy Pyre daaaay
my friend has made a deal with me, if I 10 idol/limiter/titan star all the supregiant games he'll buy me New Vegas
so time to sacrifice my sanity
Jeez man
They better get you the expansions for New Vegas as well for that
go for it! there's a bunch of steam guides available i think if you need help
Yeah i did 100% bastion with a guide
I barely check my email nowadays, is there a set date for when sgg blast emails are sent out?
I didn't get mine???
i JUST got an email and i was abt to be like "now" hdbfncmg but it wasnt it
check ur spam folders just in case i guess
Didn't get my email either - spam checked
then howd u get the discord link
Hol up
theres only been one
this months not out yet
O H
First one I got alright, you bet your behind I did
there were codes for extra secret merch
3 postcards!
if u sign up now theyll prob send it again? idk
like they might use the same code in the new one....idk im guessing lol
oh i see !! i heard something about postcards but i was just confused ,, sad ,, 
i did sign up a week or two ago so we re good
👏 👏
ty kam 💕
@neon kayak We have a handy newsletter archive coming soon! Keep an eye out for the link in our next edition.
Supergiant Games: E-mail madness
that was the first day after the blast went out before the welcome channel was seperated jgmvmnmgmcn
O
@sgg pls help I keep saying "Scribes" instead of "Oh god" when I'm surprised
oh supergiant blast july!!!
Lots of exciting stuff to share this month!
good email op
NOXALAS!
Oh boy
Thanks for being a welcome party @frigid agate, that's very sweet of you!
Gets ready for the e-mail to cause this chat to explode
what's up
👋 greetings
Hello
I havent even finished reading the email yet
Welcome everybody! ❤
welcome 👋
very good
hi guys!!!
Hello!
The server of kings
Oh boy
v_v
yeah!!
it did last time too
there sure is......a DELUGE of newcomers, huh???????
I've actually been meaning to join this server for quite some time, but it eluded me for some reason
^ same
big servers are kinda intimidating
I'm upset at myself for not finding it earlier
now you're here and life is good
it delugeded you
i didnt know about it before the email, so I just joined^^
I'd rather be delugeded than processed, so I'm fine with that
what is your favorite supergiant game guys 🤔
pyre!!
it's weird, every one of them is something else, so it's hard to choose, really
Bastion, probably.
mixed opinions
Transistor has been & will probably continue to be my favorite game in general for a long time. ❤
Transistor is really fantastic but I love the narration in Bastion.
mine's bastion, but that's for sentimental reasons because this game really changed my life, but i honestly would die for all of them
yeah all 3 games are amazing!!!!
I only just started playing Pyre though, so maybe I'll have a change of heart.
i would both kill for and die for pyre
transistor is also my favorite game in general
transistor has the best soundtrack tho imo
Bastion for the gameplay and the westernpocalypse setting, Transistor for how Red doesn't care about anyone's opinion, including the player's, and Pyre for all the lovely characters in it and allowing me to convince a talking dog to keep his styling mustache
dystopian futures are my thing
listen. listen i know my icon doesn't suggest it right now. but hedwyn is actually my favourite character supergiant has ever made
Bastion has had a massive influence on the way I write tabletop RPG stuff, and I think Pyre is probably going to as well.
hedwyn is hot
yeah, the worldbuilding in Pyre is impressive to say the least
i love him
@neon kayak you have good opinions i like you already
sparrow uve found a kindred spirit
heck yes i have
Transistor is up there because I was texting my friend who had already beaten the game while I was laying through and I was just a good experience all the way around
oooooooooooooooo
They're all so good for different reasons
You can't make me choose!
The last fight in Transistor legitimately gave me chills.
YES! Pls talk abt it in the transistor channel though
Transistor is fantastic
this is a spoiler free channel!
Yep! Sorry!
But anyone who doesn't want Jodariel to step on them is lying to themself
np!
i have an unpopular opinion
share
🔪
i don't really like jodariel
oh....
who did this to you
It's cool to be wrong
Several people are typing...
i wont judge dont worry uou
I can understand why someone would have that opinion, but it is not the correct opinion to have.
ily kamila
strong feelings Incoming...
pls be nice, its literally Rule One
Yes!
trna best
I behave!
ty!!
I'm consistently impressed by supergiant
whoops, hit enter too soon
but that statement holds
no, just soon enough
i can't wait for their new game
What I meant to say was, I'm consistently impressed by Supergiant's ability to marry worldbuilding with gameplay elements in ways that encourage the player to push outside their comfort zone
Like the biographical snippets in Transistor requiring you to use all the abilities in every configuration
Or the mechanic in Pyre which might be a spoiler to mention, but also encourages different team builds
I am so bad at pyre's combat, it's ridiculous
but I still really like the game x)
I'm kind of scared about them releasing a new game because I don't think they can top Pyre but then I didn't want to play Pyre at first because I didn't think I would like it as much as Transistor
i need to give transistor another shot
I don't mind being bad at Pyre's combat because the Voice sassing you is easily worth it.
i love both bastion and pyre
but transistor never really spoke to me
ill probably try it again sometime soon
I felt, playing Pyre, that even when the gameplay is sometimes lacking, the worldbuilding more than makes up for it
CzechMate, the Transistor is literally speaking to you the whole game, what are you talking about
even if sgg makes zero more games i still love them like.......we have such good stuff
@mint field lmao
Hi! I just wanted to say I'm happy to join your official Discord. I'm the Ginger [E]nforcer from PAX East 4(?) years ago when you were demoing transistor, who was the last person to day. I remember you guys taking video of me and talking to Greg to end my demo. It was a surreal experience, and still brings a smile to my face to this day. ❤ Thanks.
Have a great day everyone!
Jodariel can definitely be a little overbearing, and the stoicism is certainly intimidating. I think it's impossible to be universally palatable when you've been in exile for a hefty chunk of your life. 🤔
awwww!!!!
jodi is great
thank you for sharing @calm geyser ! ❤
Why so Ominous, kamila?
like sure, I didn't always enjoy the next astronomy basketball match, but I always wanted to know what happens next with all the characters I care about

because of deluge
@frigid agate bc like.....idk i think its rude to push for NEXT GAME PLEASE personally
i am like 2 achievements away from finishing transistor 100% and i never find the time to finish
Fair enough. I don't push, but speaking of the end feels... soon?
@atomic flicker And then you guys for making such amazing games; Bastion is still one of my favorites. I hope you guys still have the video of an excited Bastion fan in the files somewhere 😉
also, not sure if spoiler territory, but Pyre achieves some serious perfection in diegetic soundtrack area
i have no future expectations, whatever they announce ill be happy for!!
I would love to see Supergiant Comics from Jen
For real
jen's art style has influenced mine so much
Or Supergiant Records from Darren
oh man
But yeah, y'all are great dudes.
they are!!!
Yeah, very wholesome server

Most of my circle of friends are v wholesome supergiant fans.
I don't have many Supergiant fans among my friends, even though I'm trying my best to spread the word
SPREAD THE GOOD BOOK, READER
I'm glad I'm here
Hahah I have yet to meet someone IRL who knows Supergiants
kam
heck, I even did a lecture on one of the biggest conventions in my country on the themes of corruption and change in Supergiant games
it was rather fun
ooooooo!!!!!
hey real question is physical bastion gonna be in stores
can i hang out. outside a gamestop. and pester everyone into buying it
i peeked into this chat and i thought u meant like the Actual Bastion Environment
AAAAAAAAAAA
thats a big gamestop
DECORATE UR HOUSE W BASTION
"that's a big gamestop" not anymore it isn't
imagine the falling hazard everywhere
You mean decorate Bastion with your house
I mean, I would do that
oh man, I've had the greatest comment to the situation, but it's a spoiler for Bastion -.-
Thanks for keeping it spoiler-free here! 😄
Or face the wrath of The Kid's (ban) hammer
watch out hdnvnbn 
KEYSMASH RORSHACH TEST
is it a problem if Hedwyn's involved though
hedwyn wields his bannehammer against wrongdoers
I wonder when the next wave of newcomers will be?
Soon™?
Idk
Also, should I bother asking about the whole Sir Deluge thing going on?
we have a deluge of new arrivals
Maybe soon/now? I see a lot of people joined today with the email, myself included!
Lol
I meant through the profile pictures, but fair enough
rofl the imp sounds
They're adorb

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
I'm inconsolable.
Nooooooooo
Hol up theres a ti'zo pin!?
What my collection is 66% incomplete
well, Ti'zo pin is there, if you have a secret secret password from the newsletter
Is the new email out?
yup
Imediately purchased 👉 💸

omg darren's here
if only the shipping wasnt so expensive here... its what stopped me from buying the postcards last month :(
Bazukinier....your profile picture just makes me nostalgic T_T
I would get it, if only the shipping to my country didn't cost more than the pin :<
yeah, well, Solmyr was always my favorite guy 😄
And hello everyone : )
Yeah, we are always pushing for lower rates on international shipping, but it's a challenge! We'll keep trying, though.
this way i just wait until i can buy a bunch of stuff at once so its not too bad
but im a bit scared these will sell out :(
i really appreciate that though, i understand shipping internationally is expensive and that you guys are doing all of this on your own
When in doubt...buy more bandanas... that's how I convinced myself to get some of the things...
You can always find a use for a bandanna
The email was so nice. Haven't had a long and beautiful email like thay in a while 💜✨
This Discord is both amazing and scary because like everyone in Supergiant is like, right there, like oh my hello I love all of you so much
!!! Livestream!
We are being watched over
are we supposed to hear what they are talking? 🤔
oh my bad lol
video was muted
and game trailed was playing
lol
that was confusing
I would love to watch the stream it but I don't want to have Bastion spoiled 😥
not working for me..on steam though? I hope you guys arent going the way of Camp Santos
campo
whats wrong w them?
nothing
they were acquired by valve
It's the middle of the night where I'm from and I should totally be sleeping :D is there a way to watch the stream after it's ended? :(
ohh
I didn;t even know streaming on Steam was a thing
Me neither :o
steaming...
Yeah you can stream for your friends too it's interesting
It's a relatively new feature as far as I know! We're exploring it as a streaming option in tandem with the developer sale.
I think it's here at least since the last big sale
Oh man! I'm so hype, this stream is bringing back such good memories.
Imagine this
makes sense.. ive just been in the industry too long
Greg
I recall there being "see the games you're about to buy on these streams" as a highlight on the store's main page
Any chance a VOD will be saved for later?
Yes please, I'm on a bus and I can't watch haha
Don't make me destroy my data cap greg!
👀
I want to throw money at the sale but I own all of the the games at least twice already
@deep cedar buy them as gift and gift it to strangers 🤷
^^^^^
👀
@solid cobalt I won't talk to anyone who hasn't played Pyre all the way through
Fiorinol, I'm joking- don't do it. that's expensive
how do you know if I did or did not? 🤔
😭
I was considering for a second
It's been a rough week, could use some pick me up
I just wanted to say to @Supergiant Games that you guys are a huge inspiration, and in exactly a month I'll start university (Computer Science), and I intend to pursue a career in game design. I think Bastion set me down this path, as it really opened up my eyes for games as art, and my dream in life is to create games that can compete with yours in terms of how absolutely amazing they are. Keep it up, guys, and you'll go down in history, I'm sure of it!
Stole the words right outta my mouth :')
steam straming is kinda meh or idk, youtube/twitch usually worked better for me (I have meh internet 😦 )
that scumbag audio breakdown though
"you want your game to win an audio award? just go woooooo" -Darren Korb
"we cant be stopped, were unstoppable" new sgg motto please
everyone in supergiant SHOULD boast about everything they do because its all amazing
YEAH
Indeed!
top tier games by top tier people
i didnt notice there was a chat woah
LMAO THANKS
😄
noice
ICONIC
FIRST PIN
@olive hull, capitalize Darren's name, please?
haha
klsdaglsdgsdg
👍
It Has Been Capitalized
woooooooooo
this discord is now playable
oooowoooo
owo 
OWOOOOOOO WHATS THIS - dawwen kowb
It's been a few years since the game was released
@neon kayak hey, I'm a bit late, but about game AI I can almost guarantee it's not very limited by hardware. You can ask a proper game dev, but lots of modern games have TERRIBLE AI, and yet I still haven't found a game better than F.E.A.R. for it's AI. It really comes down to clever code that SHOULDN'T be too large. Most of game hardware is used to calculate how things look, not how they act. The exception being physics. I also know some games have engine and/or 32 bit limitstations on how many threads of AI can be going at once. I don't know if that's purely an engine limitation or what, but I know for instance Skyrim's huge "war/battle-thing" was limited to the old 32bit gamebryo engine, which the limitation was made a LOT better by upgrading to a 64 bit of the same engine. Anyone feel free to correct if I said anything wrong here! I've learned a lot about game engines over the years, but AI is something I've only lightly looked into, and only done very very basic stuff on my own with basic "if this then that" type of logic
Gavin is my hero 😄
When I first played the game, some were hard for me
Now, nah
But that's to be expected
that's the point of challenge
if it's not hard it's not good
and they are definitely not too hard 😛
How to multitask
I cannot
that is magic of a type beyond me
and apparently so is spelling
@viscid stream Dwarf Fortress would like to have a word with you
Im not convinced dwarf fortress dwarves should ever have been able to survive themselves
Yeah, I was considering trying once, but I gave up
One of the main issues you run into is
Humans don't move according to the most optimal path according to a mathematical equation
The other one would likely be that the more complicated the environment is, the more annoying making the AI is.
Another thing would be difficulty
Since steam broadcasts aren't saved is there gonna be a log for new information
Or a recording?
we already have the most important part pinned here
It's 6am and I wannq get all them deets but sleep
:( bye bye kam !!
have a great one!
For those trying to stay awake:
"I will not brew decaf. Decaf is the mind-killer. Decaf brings the little sleep that leads to total oblivion. I will embrace my caffeine. I will brew my beverages and let them flow through me, and when they are gone, I will remain... alert."
@indigo slate in terms of best AI? 😛 I've not tried it yet! Is it the same as it was about 5 years back? Or whenever it was I saw it last. I heard the depth of that game is INSANE, in a great way
where are they reading questions from for the livestream?
there is a chat there somewhere
@viscid stream I meant that this is one of the games where most of the computational power is spend on how things act and not on how things look 😄 . I can't tell whether it has the best AI or not but the simulation is definitely incredibly deep. Unfortunately I can't tell you more, I rarely play the game.
@turbid lodge wow that's a tiny link button lol
Indeed...
Yes... let the hate flow through you...
yeah, too much caffine makes me feel soo sick
cant joim ur coffee ways
decaf tea delicious!!
caffine is good but it dehydrates me more than i already am
even dark chocolate... ;0;
I like caffeine but monsters and red bulls make me feel weird 😅
i drink them a lot because they don't dehydrate me as much so i've kinda gotten used to it
they also (subjectively) taste better
Haha I prefer the whipped strawberry and orange rockstars since they’re loaded with sugar. Tho there are a couple of monsters that I find really good too
srry
it s fine 
Asfjsk I was just think that sorry
"We don't know what we're doing." - Amir
Waz you joking?
Does anyone know what they are doing?
Many people think they do.
the fools
Will the bastion livestream be uploaded to YouTube? I missed it...
"We don't know because... we don't know what we're doing."
or something similar, I don't remember the exact wording of the first part
Gourd Knocking, critically acclaimed game by SGG
Are you guys hanging out in discord & the stream chat, or just the discord? 🤔
Out of curiosity. 😄
I keep to the Discord
Hanging out in the Discord while watching the stream
Steam chat is slightly cancer
just the discord rn
Just the Discord too.
You might want to tell them to look at this too :3
I've been very pleased with the Steam chat so far, I know streaming chatrooms have bad tendencies, but everyone is pretty chill. 😄
Hence slightly 😄
i have the stream playing while im doing my online class
callout post to sgg for making me spend more money on pyre merch
oh cool, the stream's still going
Greg made us do it
does bastion is e-sport? 🤔
How e-sport do...
"mad 'sploits"
I'm tired, I'll go to sleep. Have a nice day or night depending on where you are. Also thank you SGG for the stream, it's been very inspiring so far!
when will the transistor stream start? same time this did?
We're planning to stream Transistor around 9am PST on Friday / tomorrow!
Ooh, very exciting
goes to look up timezones
I got the impression it was far in the future
Probably same time for Pyre the following day (Saturday) though we'll see how Transistor goes!
not sure what time that is for me but I know I'm usually asleep then
where are you from? 🤔
I really want to catch Pyre stream though
Well, kinda depends on what factors you consider
It's 7, so I guess for most people it's perfect
but I've got stuff I'll have to attend in the evening tomorrow
for me it's 6 which is perfect cause I can finish with work before that 😄
oh I see 😦
so I guess it's more like it's a bit unfortunate rather than too late
let's hope they are recorded streams
This takes priority though 😛
they said Greg will be there in Transistor stream, I hope we will get a lot of lore related info and not those "only Greg knows that' thing we had now 😄
Don't get your hopes up lol
@grave island Take it from someone who's tried.
or Greg will be like "that's something only I know... and I want to keep it that way" 🤔
Transistor fandom has been trying to get answers for like TWO YEARS
They have! I can attest.
maybe they asked the wrong questions 
Or more likely Greg will say "That's an interesting question!" and nothing else
csab, I'm pretty sure there are archives of past chats with Greg abt Transistor if you really want them, I won't be able to go digging for them for a few hours though
What would you say is an example of a question you wish I would answer but wouldn't answer?
don't forget the classic "Up to interpretation!"
😆 ok I know I sound salty but I mostly (mostly) don't mind
I honestly can't remember at this point but I'm sure other folks have some examples...
(i also just rolled out of bed)
People would definitely ask "what's mr. nobody's real name?"
Glad I've made a name for myself in, er, Greg interrogation tactics :') :')
Greg Interrogation Tactics sounds so intimidating
Is it "Nemo"?
How did Red and the transistor get to the starting location?
How was Red's voice taken?
@cobalt gust Ask us on stream tomorrow! There are stories we can tell at least.
Well we know how Red's voice was taken
also what s royce doing at the start of every recursion
i think the theory is that it takes one of your selections, right? and one of hers were linguistics?
Selections?
or maybe not even theory just canon, im not sure with transistor
I thought it was the spookiness of no selections from mr nobody
I might be able to come to the stream? Idk, working out times is hard
6 pm pacific right?
9 AM, yeah i cant do that probably that's uhhh 1 am
everyone in transistor (aside from mr. nobody) has selections, red's are music and linguistics. if the transistor takes one of them away, it explains why she can hum but not speak words
Will these streams be archived on youtube later for people who can't tune in live?
@full plover Short answer is we don't know. Our first time streaming on Steam and there isn't an obvious archive function. Maybe someone out there will record it or something if we aren't able to pull it off. Apologies for not having our ducks in a row on that just yet.
Transistor will always have my heart
same!!
"not having our ducks in a row"? You guys love words, eh?
closest I've found on the website is this:
Can I save my broadcast?
No, broadcasts are currently live only. However, if a video is reported for review, Steam may save some or all of the broadcast for review.
Article "Steam Broadcasting"
awwww
I'm going to try and record the Transistor one tomorrow, hopefully
Ah, here's a question about Transistor: is "the country" death, reality, or just another layer in the simulation?
Pyre was mmmm ambitious, and I acknowledge that! but either it's not what I needed from a game at this point in my life or not the kind of thing that resonates with me in general 🤷
Oooh country questions
In theory, Greg could just report the stream and then Steam might save it...
Another one: What does the Transistor really take from people?
pyre was actually exactly what i needed at that point in my life, so while transistor is still my favorite i really appreciate it and how much like real friends the characters felt
I think we wanted the Country to feel as ambiguous to the people of Cloudbank as the idea of the afterlife may seem to us.
What actually are the Process? Are they robots, are they aliens?
i think i said that a lot, but.. these games just all mean a whole lot to me!
The Process is...old. as old as this town...
It's also how many people have very different views of the afterlife; likewise in Cloudbank there may be people with different points of view on the Country. That's not to say the Country == the afterlife, though if you got a bit of that vibe from it that's hopefully not entirely by accident.
@cobalt gust the process is literally that, the process or programs that run the city
@cobalt gust They're a part of the world that reveal themselves and start doing what they're doing due to the events of the story. The average citizen of Cloudbank would be very alarmed by the sight of them.
ah cool
Speaking of, do the people of Cloudbank know that they are in a simulation?
If they actually are, that is
That's a pretty big assumption to make
We could maybe hop into #transistor if we wanna go spoilery btw or definitely load up on questions for the stream tomorrow if you'll be around!
Yeah :')
👍
@turbid lodge Who says it's a simulation?
As we speak I can hear all the users of this server taking out their blank tomes, jotting down questions
I don't like that theory personally but it's not off the table
What with all the programming imagery, it's a logical conclusion
I'll be able to get chatlogs from previous years' convos with Greg later, I can put them in #transistor
Yes please
I was also gunning for that most recent job at SGG but there were 200 reasons I couldn't take it, least of which being that I'm under contract in an entirely different country right now 😂 maybe someday
REAL FEEL
We always take cosplay as a huge compliment yeah.
hmm, if I would live in Cloudbank I would probably not believe in the Country
There are the cosplayers, and then there are the people who may or may not be low-key cosplaying
It's great seeing the low-key ones, too
Sort of like an Easter Egg but irl
RIP Amir
cues "All By MySelf..."
off on him own...
Staying up until 3 am for this stream is a bit too much for me, have fun everyone 👋 😴
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for streaming, it's been very fun! I'm looking forward to tomorrow's stream too!
omg
Darren is on the server
Wow there are a lot of new users here today
They're getting toward the end of the game, but it's worth tuning in. 😄
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@turbid lodge yes! our second Blast! was released today, which links to the Discord. People who missed the first Blast! flooded in today.

@neon kayak SGG people will be streaming Transistor and Pyre as well, tomorrow and Saturday. 😄
omg
I need to see the Pyre stream
I need to see ALL THE STREAMS
Yeah! So if you want to catch the streams, we're doing Transistor tomorrow (July 27) starting at roughly 9am pst. Pyre is on Saturday, though the time is a little more up in the air for that one.
Greg will always be tweeting about it/throwing up links in the Announcements channel here.
Very nice..
wow i stayed up pretty late for this stream.. its 4 am
Were I live is 6:02 p.m x'd
3 am, maybe time to sleep 🤔
200 millon number of endings at Pyre?
wooot
Welp, that was a fun stream
Sad days. But it was nice to revisit that game. Reminds me how much I enjoyed it
@olive hull I think Bastion is my favourite tbh
But Transistor is for sure up there
Close second?
bastion is my least favorite out of the three but i still love it a lot
this stream reminded me how emotional it makes me
Bastion and Transistor are really close for me. I love Bastion for the isolation, but I loved Transistor for all the geeky lingo
Pyre was an amazing story and I loved the characters, but I preferred the other gameplay styles. Still loved it though
cyberpunk without the traditional cyberpunkiness
transistor is objectively the best game because a giant sword tells you to order pizza
:O
cyberpunk without the Bad tropes of it
Also, that sweet jacket 
I don't think cyberpunk has bad tropes, just overused ones
only so many times you can add magic to "hackers hack into nasty corporations"
Transistor is so hard to explain to people though.
"So you're like... the heroine, and you have the giant talking sword... who's your boyfriend..."
It's like what if a Sword told you nice things and you cry
T_T
transistor's hard to explain to people who played transistor
😂
Things I said to my friend while playing: Playing it is like: I walk around the world. He speaks. I have to stop and wait for my heart to stop racing.
I tried to explain Bastion to someone who had only played Transistor once
"It's exactly like Transistor only everything is different."
😂
:neutral_face:
But an hour ago, he was my lover.
And the sword killed him.```
My friend: "And.... this is good... why?"
its about a singer who loses her voice and carries around a talking sword
and if that doesnt make you wanna play it
nothing will
that moment you realize SuperGiant games is like a bad relationship that keeps destroying your heart but you keep coming back for more
Heck, I looked at the little icon in the game store and wanted to play it.
@south ether Dawww hopefully it's not that rotten...!
i could never call the experience of playing a supergiant game a bad relationship even if it hurts :')
Haha, you know I'll always love you guys @cursive galleon
In all seriousness we really strongly avoid just trying to make players feel bad / sad, which IMO is not difficult to achieve narratively.
i like being sad about things that arent my life occasionally... haha.. ha
relatively speaking
I definitely do a lot more emotional pacing while playing SGG games.
i just feel a lot for these characters
