#pyre

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timid silo
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Only the finest relationships!

prime dirge
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Are they arc words though? The term seems to be used in the same way as IRL volfredthink

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I expected these as pairs: || tizomg and volfredthink or tizomg and Or. I think the epilogue descriptions even change a bit if they are together? Also tariq and celeste || Unless you mean "they call each other kindred spirits" at some point

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I got three of the pairs on my playthrough, but I don't remember the term being used at all failbag

trail talon
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wait, what are "arc words" in this game? is there a list?

spiral zealot
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yeah what is a arc word?

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because if there is I can find them, i just need to know what they are

vestal bluff
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It’s a storytelling thing, not a gameplay thing

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A phrase that signifies something to do with a story arc, which in Pyre’s case is “kindred spirits”

prime dirge
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To me, "kindred spirits" seems to be a concept used in the game, so not quite arc words

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"There is no escape" for Hades, "Remember Reach" for Halo Reach, sound like arc words though. Unless these are theme words or mottos volfredthink

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For Pyre, my best guess is " ajfingerguns Freedom is a privilege. Yours has been revoked! ajfingerguns "

stray jolt
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there's a very cool example near the end of the game ||where you make a speech to your remaining exiles, and that last line of the speech gets reused later on; you get to literally create your own arc words||

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but also, "The Eight Scribes gave their freedom so that we may yet have ours" (which i took from the tvtropes page)

heavy hill
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I always figured that pyre's arc words were chosen by the player in their speech, since that phrase comes up a lot near the end

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never thought of kindred spirits though!

vague chasm
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I'm getting Pyre on the Steam Sale
excited to see how it turns out!

mild falcon
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Get some tissues ready hehe

prime dirge
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It's a great journey, visually. Also musically and...storycally, or whatever the word for that is

vague chasm
prime dirge
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As usual, I must suggest you to play Pyre in a big screen if possible. The sights are very pretty. Also with speakers or earphones, since the music helps you vibe and also enhances the mood squirtnya
Also, reading the book is fun from time to time

vague chasm
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but books are for libraries

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amirite

mild falcon
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Books are for pyres i guess

prime dirge
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You'll know what we mean once you see it. For now it's time for you to wake up.

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Alan, wake up

trail talon
supple solar
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the book of rites awakened the nightwings and ignited the flame

toxic python
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Replaying, and jc first time i saw the lone minstrel in the wagon before he dissapears

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The first time i played it i got so confused when it was mentioned

trail talon
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i saw him and was just waiting for someone to mention him. odd that no one ever says "oh that guy, he's asleep all the time, don't bother him"

deep cedar
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I'm at the part in the Flagging Hands and I just ||told Rukey to shave his mustache and when he did he gained +1 hope||. I'm curious, does anyone know what happens if you tell him to keep it?

mild falcon
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He keeps it, gets the hope, and you don't anger the entire discord

deep cedar
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LOL i was wondering if it was the same result

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Thank you

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There were like chainsaw noises

trail talon
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let me be the first to say oh noooo

spiral zealot
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So you have chosen ... death

toxic python
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vs mode is great for messing around with a lot of talisman i never bothered to use SuiLaugh
did a team where all 3 of my team could banish with the orb

spiral zealot
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Vs mode is great

toxic python
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also understimated the wyrms, jc they go fast

spiral zealot
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Zoom wyrm. Have you seen lightning run tailwind dogs tho?

toxic python
spiral zealot
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My favorite is plunging crones although I know it's not very popular

toxic python
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tho i really want to get a better laptop, sometimes i lag and suddenly either me or the other team is on the contrary side of the map

spiral zealot
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Hate when that happens, suggestion, you get a better laptop and it only runs pyre. You fit it out just to run pyre perfectly. You could say it's just rite

toxic python
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i-... SuiFacepalm that was good

spiral zealot
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Thank you thank you. I live for bad puns

toxic python
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but gotta say, at first pyre didnt sound fun bc "sport game" but the gameplay is great
and the songs in game give so much feels

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brb crying to bound together

deep cedar
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ngl ||I'm not a fan of the gameplay but I'm playing it for the story/art/music 🥲||

trail talon
spiral zealot
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I love the pyre gameplay. I keep playing it just for that. ||Havent touched story mode in a while as I get too much anxiety thinking "I have to get rid of one of my people ahhh my team composition"||

toxic python
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my first playthrough i screwed myself agaisnt the essence by having no flying characters SuiLaugh by the ||last liberation rites||

deep cedar
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Ive won all the rites so far I just go zoom zoom

unborn copper
unborn copper
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^Live now!

prime dirge
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Was it a joke back when Babs said this was the summer of the Crone, or did that mean anything?

midnight hawk
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no now is the time for the crones

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so making bog crone content

prime dirge
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So Greg told you over the phone or something tizomg

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Been a while since I do anything, but Bertrude seems easy to draw

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Bertrude and Pam is better, but Pam is so detailed. Imma try Bertrude

glossy bolt
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I just finished the game recently for the first time and damn it's so good

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I love the music and the art
Everything's pretty

midnight hawk
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all of sgg's games are beautiful but i think pyre has some of the most stunning visuals

spiral zealot
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easily

deep cedar
calm hamlet
supple solar
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at what point does *ae not want to rite?

deep cedar
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to go against the harps

prime dirge
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This should happen too if she's ill or not able to be anointed. But I think the text says Unavailable (?) instead. Does the sprite change for this too?

supple solar
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yeah

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it changes like that when they cant conduct a rite, whatever the reason may be

midnight hawk
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i think pyre has very good designs but it'd be cool if non-humanoid races were a little more monster-y or feral

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like knocked it out of the park w the crones

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but what about harps

cobalt elbow
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I def would like more bird looking harps

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like they got the necks and all

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but face is just human

timid silo
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Like those fanarts on Tumblr, you know the ones? I think the artist deactivated but they had a lot of studies of more birdlike Pam...

midnight hawk
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yeah i think the artist's name was savi? i could be wrong. but they drew great more monster-y pam

deep cedar
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alright the beyonders in tizo's scribe trial are overpowered as HECK

deep cedar
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nevermind it turns out i have just been sleeping on Mae this whole time

glossy bolt
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On my previous playthrough I went into the game totally blind and I didn't really know what strategies use and stuff so I basically just centered half of the game on making Jodi faster

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In the end I got her to ~ 15 speed I think

timid silo
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She can go for a jog with Oralech (whose base walk is amusingly fast)

timid silo
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go for a jog and cheer each other up so he doesn't take a minute-long depression nap!!

untold quartz
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fanart of Jodi and Oralech out jogging in 80s headbands and legwarmers when

deep cedar
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so I ||liberated jodi first but I didn't get to learn that much about her (reason for exile, etc.) 🥺 will I still get to learn about her later?||

lime mural
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||Not unless you play through again.||

deep cedar
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aww dang, thank you for answering though!

calm hamlet
timid silo
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I don't think you can see everyone's past in a single game! They start unlocking after the first liberation rite iirc?

sour vector
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Hello all! ive just joined and spent my 10 minutes before being able to chat to search for other people with my issue, but it appears there wasnt much relatable/solvable in the replies.. so im gonna ask anyway, to see if somebody can help. sorry if im re-opening old topics but i feel i have to. so: my game keeps crashing/freezing. first it was when the steam overlay opened up, for example upon gaining an achievement, my game would freeze and stutter and all, and i would be forced to close it and redo a few minutes of the game. this is annoying but i can overcome, but now its doing that every 10 minutes or so, even when i disabled the steam overlay. the last time (the one that made me come here) my game just crashed, instantly closed, and made me sad and not willing to try starting it up again (ive restarted 5 times today allready, its getting annoying). i then decided i like the game too much to just give up on it, but i am getting close to that point. any idea why this happens and what i can do to counter it? i would love to finish the story and not just stop playing mid-2nd-liberation

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oh and to add to this: ive not had these crashes/freezes in the first 8/9 hours of gameplay, but about 20 or so in the last 3 hours

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so obviously im thinking something has changed, but i dont know what that would be

glossy bolt
glossy bolt
timid silo
young folio
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im pretty sure you can get everyones pasts if you dont liberate anyone

timid silo
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Oh, hah, there's that of course!

mental acorn
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i'm listening to the ost

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is that a sousaphone i hear in the last song?

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i can't help but think of veggietales lmao

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it could be a tuba idk anything about brass instruments

prime dirge
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(That's it, that's my only argument)

sour vector
supple solar
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Yeah I lost my first liberation rite cause i wasnt ready to let anyone go yet djfbjf

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||bit me later cause i didnt get a peaceful revolution||

timid silo
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Counterpoint: ||what stars?|| It has to be a memory...

prime dirge
timid silo
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I think those dots are stars, although not the Scribes' stars volfredthink But that can mean anything

prime dirge
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That'd make sense, since those are all of the same blueish color and don't have the same shape volfredthink

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My point was ||that the image above only happens if everyone remains. But that may be a dream or something||

timid silo
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Mine was that ||there are no stars in the sky by the time the game ends, they've all faded. So those tiny stars there seem to me to hint at the image being a memory or a wish!|| Besides, I can't imagine the game arguing in any shape or form in favour of leaving everyone down

prime dirge
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||THERE ARE SCRIBE-STYLE STARS IN THE CREDITS ROLL TOO.
I can see this as "decades have passed, but the Nightwings have lived on in song". Would make sense considering how songs and tales can live on even before/without literacy.

And if the stars in the credits are any indication, that could mean the rites are coming back at some point in the future (Ashpaw Rite League ❓👀) ||

faint hare
trail talon
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||i think it’s implied that the stars will return someday, though i forget when||

prime dirge
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||I also don't think the game gave any other indication to leave everyone down. And I like that wallpaper a lot (and want to print it). But it's funny how that could only happen if everyone remains :(||

zealous dawn
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||There is a phrase "Now, at the end, as we bid farewell and return to the stars, we shall find our way home". Always thought that current Nightwings were (in a way) a reincarnation of Scribes, and that line implied that they will be back together anyway and mere distance would not be able to separate them, and that was shown there||
Spoilers + theories, beware

trail talon
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||i thought that “we” referred to tariq and celeste||

zealous dawn
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||In my head, it was like "we all", since Tariq was with Nightwings all the time (even if it was his purpose or smth similar)||

deep cedar
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wait why do some of the titan stars give you advantages? I thought they were supposed to be challenges? or am I misunderstanding

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ohhh... nevermind I didn't notice the "your adversaries" part 🤡

prime dirge
# zealous dawn ||In my head, it was like "we all", since Tariq was with Nightwings all the time...

||I hadn't considered the other possibility, as I also thought that last verse refers to tariq and celeste. Tariq is clear in his "We'll finally be able to spend time together; I won't have to stay with the Blackwagon." near the end, even if Celeste admonishes him right then.

Also, the song refers to Nightwings as found their way home /remained in the end, but in that last verse it finally breaks the rule, just as it seems like it's not talking about the Nightwings anymore.

The last half-baked argument is: the moon and Nightwings drawing doesn't feature tariq , unless he's there as the Moon volfredthink This is also possible since Celeste wasn't really part of the NW, so she's not drawn there||

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(Not hellbent on this, just gravitated naturally since the first time to "They mean both of them, not all of us")

prime dirge
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(This is even more subjective than my points above)

deep cedar
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Im trying to beat oralech with all titan stars activated and having an extremely bad time

midnight hawk
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oof yeah that's brutal

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godspeed

prime dirge
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Have you considered...passing? Defending first and attacking once they're banished?

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That's a difficult rite and the game lets you get away with developing crutches otherwise, so changing the playstyle should help

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In what way to change it, I don't really know. But we can try volfredthink

deep cedar
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yeah ur right 😔 the whole time I have been getting away with just zooming with one exile but this... this rite make me want to uninstall Steam

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I might give up lol

prime dirge
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The only failure is to stray from the path.
This means if you uninstall Pyre right now I shall h(a)unt you 😤

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Would it be that bad to concede, though?

deep cedar
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No but i wanna Win 😪

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Also what does straying from the path even mean?

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I feel like u don't have a choice but to go where you're supposed to? or is it more a figurative thing

prime dirge
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It means to stop being the Nightwings' reader, or for the NWs to give up their robes

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So. You could ||restart the rite with fewer stars (haven't tried this, hope it works), or be more patient banishing them before throwing (don't plunge, you need your three exiles rn)||

deep cedar
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(i am afraid to read that because I have not finished the game 😢)

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also I am just going to give up on this rite I don't stand a chance against handsome demon man

prime dirge
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That's meant for you 😛

deep cedar
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Ohh thanks!

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I can't change the titan stars when restarting the rite though

prime dirge
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Oof. But you could still change your anointed so that you can have an easier time defending

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If it helps in any way, I had Fred anointed, so I could quickly place the sap near the orb and give myself some breathing room

deep cedar
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LMAO at the start of the rite oralech literally just jumped to our pyre and walked into everyone and banished them all instantly

prime dirge
deep cedar
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Ooh

prime dirge
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Who is your triumvirate for this? :/

prime dirge
deep cedar
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No they are all too fast and strong and respawn too fast shadegrief

deep cedar
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I wonder if this is like trying to beat Hades on ||50 heat|| or something

prime dirge
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So...do you have any amulet in store that may change your strats?

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Maybe something like +4 aura size in someone that has a massive aura already

deep cedar
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Ahh not really I haven't invested much in talismans

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I just accepted defeat here and I'm gonna deactivate some of the titan stars from here on out hah

prime dirge
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Also an idea. I tried a few stars but things got more tense than I'd like

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Plum tried with many but I believe every rite made him sweat so much it caused leaks in his house

deep cedar
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screw it. 0 titan stars

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I want to Enjoy

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I dont want challenge anymore i just want to be happy

prime dirge
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So play as you feel comfortable. I gave myself a bit of difficulty by using suboptimal amulets or compositions

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But for you, maybe Pyre means playing with some stars. Or none squirtnya

deep cedar
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thank you for the advice hehe

prime dirge
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The only failure is straying from the path intensifies

deep cedar
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so... ||that's not like... possible in the game though, right? 👀||

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it's more of like... a saying...?

prime dirge
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They mean to have the player give up, yes. Since some players could realistically lose most of the rites, they had to find a way to justify the NWs not quitting on the reader, and the story still had to advance in some way

deep cedar
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Ahh ok

prime dirge
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If I ever try a full-star run this is going to be quite useful 😅

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Point is there's no shame in losing. So you may carry on reading

deep cedar
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well to be fair I am pretty terrible at the game so you would probably do better hahah

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My playstyle is "Rukey go brrr"

toxic python
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i want to try use more titan stars but my laptop already struggles with normal matches and suddenly enemy team scoring on me SuiSweat

prime dirge
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I had fun with fliers squirtnya
At some point I had to use my plan B of banishing then going for a throw

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I've been told you can pass, ~~but I think that's locked behind a DLC squirtdevious ~~

toxic python
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pamitha is one of my fav characters bc aura burst go brrrrrrr

deep cedar
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but... rukey... FAST...

toxic python
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rukey zooming also is fun
(also that amulet that lets you banish with orb + _ae SuiLaugh )

prime dirge
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There's more than one strong strat, but whichever you choose you should have at least a plan B

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Like...fierce defense with Jodi, or something

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Hedwyn throwing the orb at some opponent and banishing them when they lose their aura

toxic python
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the most problems i got was oralech wich i ended taking the lost and the essence in the liberation rite
didnt have a good way to stop them from flying

prime dirge
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You can jump against a flyer. But that particular rite I think...I fought them with Pam?

deep cedar
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I used Pam too but ||in the middle of it she said she wanted the essence to win so I was like "ok!" and let them win||

toxic python
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yeah... that was my problem
was either pam or other 2 i didnt want to liberate
and i just didnt wanted to give the win SuiSweat

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i think the most i dissapointed myself in the game was getting hedwyn amulet and ||liberating him first||

deep cedar
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i love hedwyn and he is very pretty but MAN he sucks

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at rites

toxic python
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i think he is fine
more survability at least

deep cedar
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he should stick to cooking

prime dirge
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I didn't do much with him (first lib'd) but in skilled hands a nomad can zoom and banish and throw the orb

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Don't quite remember the strat but they can be dangerous is what I'm saying

toxic python
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i havent played the story mode in a while tbh
i like to mess around in versus (specially to test things)

untold quartz
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Hey, who's blaming me for what now??

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(also don't badmouth Hedwyn, my loves, he's a well-rounded boy and with the right skill tree he is deadly against Harps which is no small thing)

supple solar
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Pamitha is my main

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always felt broken to me

midnight hawk
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pamitha with her talisman..... chef's kiss

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especially before they nerfed it

supple solar
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this is after a nerf?

midnight hawk
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yeah iirc her chance not to be banished was 100%

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or at least around there

prime dirge
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😔
All I was saying is that we tried Tobu's "you're allowed to reset very important rites" plan, but the Stars couldn't be changed anymore, so Or walked all over Freeze's triumvirate

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Taken from the wiki, also matches what I remember: Triesta's Plume (only usable by Pamitha during the campaign): While flying, Pamitha shall not be banished by dousing the adversary's Pyre, and deal: +5 damage.

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Was there a nerf at all?

midnight hawk
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yeah it didn't use to be like that, the wiki only has the current talisman stats

prime dirge
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The Plume used to give a bigger damage bonus, then

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So broken. Wonder why they left it volfredthink

vestal bluff
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It was always a max of +5 damage (depending on the Talisman’s level), but the chance to come back after plunging while flying is 50% nowadays, whereas it was 100% before

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Basically a second Prayer Beads, which is already among the best Talismans

midnight hawk
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thank u failer

midnight hawk
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hey time sensitive questions that are also end game spoilers: ||do all the stars fade or just the titan stars?|| and ||what's the smallest amount of characters that you can keep down? like winning every lib rite and having the reader go up||

trail talon
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||the titan stars cause the other stars to fade: only the titan stars remain. you can leave as few as two exiles below, i think (three if the reader goes up)||

faint hare
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||yea you leave min2 max3 if you win every lib rite, I ended with 3 since I liberated oralech||

midnight hawk
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thank u!

untold quartz
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Oh dear, I didn't mean that as a plan so much as a philosophy 😅

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I tried to let go and accept it when I lost a rite, but I gave myself more leeway to ||try and start over as much as possible when it was a lib rite||

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That's all 🤣

prime dirge
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We got that, it's just that given the situation we were in, restarting became a plan (which didn't work cuz stars)

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Turns out nobody expects the speedy demon inquisition shadeohboy

midnight hawk
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if you exit to the menu and reload it'll get you right before the rite so you can start over on which stars you want

prime dirge
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Oh that's possible. Well. That's the cure for star overdose volfredthink

prime dirge
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So I just read a fun and friendly :) Pyre fic, but ||it didn't quite match the description. Is that common in the Pyrefic community, or was that an author's quirk?||

midnight hawk
prime dirge
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Yup, that one. Icy cold and all that 🥶

midnight hawk
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if it's any consolation i am working on things that are actually fun and friendly

untold quartz
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I mean, there's loads of fun and friendly fic for Pyre

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I'm very fond of the one where they fly around harassing people with the horn on the blackwagon

prime dirge
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No, no, that's canon tizomg

untold quartz
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and I just published one the other month that's effectively Jodi taking the Girl clothes shopping

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if you want cozy Pyre fic, there's a lot of happiness awaiting you on AO3

prime dirge
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Do you have a link? (if that's allowed in the channel)

midnight hawk
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i think a little linking on this channel should be fine

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but if there's a lot then it should be moved to #fan-works

untold quartz
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Sure, I can drop links in fanworks! Which one did you want? The horn?

prime dirge
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Yes. Crashing with other wagons was a minor highlight of mine squirtdevious

untold quartz
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Posted!

lapis creek
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ORB WIFE

spiral zealot
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IS ORB LIFE

crisp oxide
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got my baby sibling to start pyre

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they love it so far

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slowly immersing my family into sgg

midnight hawk
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hell yeah

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one of us one of us

crisp oxide
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ONE OF US 👏 ONE OF US 👏

unborn copper
unborn copper
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^Live now!

supple solar
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i revived my old wattpad account because i started writing again, it wasnt pyre related but

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i always had an idea for a fic and im thinking now might be a decent time to try ajfhf

orchid flicker
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Hi! I was directed here by a Reddit user because I had a question.
I was trying to find the specific voice clips for the victory cheers after dumping the VO .bank file, but couldn't find any (at least, as far as I'm aware). Am I looking in the wrong place?

scenic kiln
orchid flicker
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Oh! Alright.

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Thank you.

thick agate
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Check emotes.bank, too — if you're referring to the voice clips where they say "noxalas" and the like, you can find those in there

orchid flicker
fast ridge
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Well thanks Steam Summer Sale, now I have an easy excuse to download Pyre and complete my SGG collection!

deep cedar
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finished pyre for the first time shadegrief

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very curious ||as to what happens if you free yourself at the end?? as well as a bunch of other outcomes? guess it is time to play it againtizomg ||

timid silo
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Absolutely time to play again tizomg and now you can better plan ||who you can't bring yourself to separate, who you want to leave down etc||!

deep cedar
timid silo
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Oooooooof yeah that's insta-replay material. Same with Volfred for me 😔

deep cedar
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||I liked him too much so i waited too long to free him😭😭gotta free the others this time around!! ||

prime dirge
fast ridge
deep cedar
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the sheer amount of music, art, and writing in this game is mind boggling especially considering how small their team is

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like. Greg just wrote... all that?

spiral zealot
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greg writes with all 4 limbs at the same time

deep cedar
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I bet!!! He's gotta have at least 2 brains

deep cedar
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i feel like with this game i didnt truly appreciate it until after finishing it & letting it sit for a while

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listening to soundtrack again and everything makes sense now and making me emotional shadegrief

glossy bolt
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I had a dream there was a pyre choose your own adventure book

wise storm
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hi. so i just bought pyre yesterday and played with my old laptop but the fps are too low for me, around 17fps. while transistor, bastion and even hades runs well on my laptop, i got around 30-45 fps in hades. i have searched on how to fix this but haven't found anything that works. i have updated drivers, setting launch option and launch the game in borderless window but still lagging. i wonder if someone know how to fix this, it would be a big help for me

scenic kiln
wise storm
scenic kiln
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Alright--which launch options did you try?

wise storm
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/Bloom=false /DrawRecursivePaths=false/FullScreen=false /NoBorder=true /X=1920 /Y=1080
NoFixedStep=true /SwapInterval=0

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i have tried setting windowed/fullscreen from ingame too but still lagging

scenic kiln
# wise storm /Bloom=false /DrawRecursivePaths=false/FullScreen=false /NoBorder=true /X=1920 /...

alright, a couple things to try, with regards to those--

as far as I'm aware, it's /DrawBloom=false, not just /Bloom=false

I'm not certain the the FixedStep, RecursivePaths, and Interval ones actually do anything--either way, don't forget the / in front of the FixedStep

You can also try adding /DrawBlendMax=8 /DrawLights=false /DrawColorGrading=false, though I'm not positive that those'll work for Pyre (they're from Hades, but might've existed back then)

wise storm
scenic kiln
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Sure thing ^.^ Best of luck!

sacred lagoon
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Hello! I'm working on adding Pyre-based cards into the card game Binding of Isaac - Four Souls, and the images on the wiki are just a bit too low resolution for me to use. Is there anywhere I can get higher resolution images, either from the game files or from some other place?

scenic kiln
sacred lagoon
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All right, thanks!

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(If anyone here has some more information as well, I would be very appreciative of it)

thick agate
deep cedar
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||Bound Together|| really got me like shadegrief shadegrief shadegrief

deep cedar
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Pyre would make a great animated film

trail talon
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or a tv series, perhaps

fast ridge
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So wasn’t sure what I was expecting with Pyre, but so far I dig it.

prime dirge
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It's a journey that engages your eyes, ears, and heart.
Also your hands at times squirtnya

merry locust
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Pyre is one of my favourite Supergiant Games! Just leaving this message asking for a Switch port 🙂

Also, a physical release of this game would be amazing. I own a physical copy of Hades and the Limited Run Games release of Bastion and Transistor.

spiral zealot
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It probably will never be ported to switch

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Unless SuperGiant totally runs out of ideas or things to do, even then

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Pyre was hte least financially succesful game for them

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and the cost to port to switch would be too high for the profit it would make

merry locust
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They ported both Bastion and Transistor, so I still have hope 🙂

spiral zealot
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yeah, i highly doubt it tho

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also this

low gorge
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man i got pyre a while ago, made it a decent way through, and then haven't picked it up in a while so i decided to play again today

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first of all, going into a rite without practicing first wasn't my best idea lol

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second of all, idk why but the game just keeps crashing on my computer 😭

fast ridge
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That stinks

spiral zealot
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Is there an error or does it just close?

spiral zealot
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Massivly important qujestion that might split hte entire fandom apart

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who is better

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or

lime mural
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I was terrified you were gonna pull up an orb or just a picture of Sandra.

spiral zealot
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lol

spiral zealot
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I have acheived peak boredom

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so you know this concept art

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you see that text there?

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yeah i do too

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and you know what else

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its english

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and you know wht else

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i currently have notepad++ open writing all this down

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so far I have

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Desire, that they cannot forsee the pain and trouble that are bound to (presumably arise but hard to see) and equal blame belongs to those who fail in ther duty through /n
Every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided (indecipherable, potentially that) in certain circumstances and (indecipherable) is the claims of (indecipherable) or the obligations of business if (potentially "will") freq /n
orse prints. On the other hand, we (indecipherable) with righteous imagination and (looks like dislike, not sure) (men?) (indecipherable) are (to, might not even be a word, very hard to tell) (tainted?) and demoralized by the charms of plasure of the moment so blinded
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this thing talks about pleasure a lot

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hmm this text seems to be one block of text copy and pasted over and over

scenic kiln
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Could use the whole thing to get one clear copy of the block of text?

spiral zealot
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probably

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ill keep at it then trying to write this entire thing down

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then it can be stitched together

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then we can uncover the truths of the pyre that never was

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you think greg will giv me a prize if i do all this because boy is this a lot of text

prime dirge
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Is that anemic Rukey? The designs are a bit disturbing

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For a moment I thought you had OCR'd it. Maybe that's an easier path?

prime dirge
spiral zealot
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lol

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ocr probably wont help as each character is like 3 or 4 pixles and theres this:

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and this is early concept designs shown in the noclip documentary

prime dirge
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fi?minEb
? is I've no idea

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There must be a PS/Pinta/GIMP trick to raise contrast a lot

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Also, I think I see some ligatures. We could use some website to recognize the font, and thus the chars

spiral zealot
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yeah this block of text will undoublty pop up again and we can know what those pixels are

prime dirge
spiral zealot
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hmm picture too large

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for fontsquirrel at least

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hm seems like the text is just too small to be recognizable

prime dirge
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Yeah it was useless

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There should be some contrast trick to recognize the chars by eye 👀
Does anyone know about that?

scenic kiln
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I might be able to, gimme a few

spiral zealot
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got this done so im taking a break for tonight

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ill put what i have so far in a doc and post it here

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it'll be view only

prime dirge
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What the heck it seems to be ||ol' Lorem Ipsum||

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I SHOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT FROM THE PLEASURE AND PAIN ALL OVER gilmanrage

spiral zealot
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it is?

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ah that makes sense

midnight hawk
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hey hold up

prime dirge
spiral zealot
midnight hawk
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we can't pull things from the game file here

spiral zealot
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👀

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oops

prime dirge
scenic kiln
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was this from the game files, or was this concept art that was shared?

spiral zealot
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well both

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it is in the noclip

midnight hawk
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ohhh ok

spiral zealot
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but i did get it from the game files as i didnt want to search throug hte documentary for like the 3 seconds it was on screen

prime dirge
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sweats in Sahrian

spiral zealot
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^

scenic kiln
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shh, don't say that erumi

prime dirge
midnight hawk
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ok i cant tell how much is pulled from the game files and what's not so please like

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dont

spiral zealot
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yeah i wont sorry babs

midnight hawk
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it's alright just for future reference

spiral zealot
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👍

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On the other hand, we denounce with Righteous Indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammeled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains.

yeah that prefectly matches lol

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all my work brought to naught

prime dirge
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There should be something this parallels to in the Book. But can't remember it 😐

spiral zealot
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😐

prime dirge
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Impressive work recognizing the characters though squirtnya

spiral zealot
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yeah they are like 4 pixels a peice lol

prime dirge
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So back to topic. Was there a reason for comparing Ron to the spiky guy?

spiral zealot
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nah he just cute

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but guys

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so

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uh

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hows them ||spoilers||

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or but actual question that WILL split the fandom

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Sandra

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or

prime dirge
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That's an incomplete question. Unless you mean...personal preference or something

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Is there even a question if that's the case?

spiral zealot
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true

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its hard to really comapare them

prime dirge
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One helps you become the Reader the Downside calls for, the other...depresses everyone if left with for long? (Or short)

spiral zealot
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whos who?

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those decriptions fit both

prime dirge
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Huh. I meant Ron making everyone lose hope/a stat when you give him a ride.
How spooky is interacting with the orb for the other NWs? I never considered that

spiral zealot
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||I was thinking that its depressing if you elave her in the downside and she wants to be with you||

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||but yeah, she spooks ron out a lot||

prime dirge
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There was someone saying that the "The Beyonder Crystal seeks Rukey" happens in-universe as the Orb suddenly glowing and it yelling READER! I SEEK YOUR DOG

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Huh. It was you

spiral zealot
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lol

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RRReader, bring me your snake grandmother and tree grandfather

prime dirge
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So she has ||a moment when she's very depressed/given up/can't find the word. But heck, there's that "In their last moments, people show you who they are", that applies to Sandra but I was thinking of Ron here:||
||Business is one rite away from collapsing. I became a merchant of talismans seeking profit, and this is coming to an end.||
||What ever shall I do?||
||I know, give a 3% discount||
||So not even in the ballpark of how good the NWs seek to be.||
But then ||there's him becoming Rukey's (and Bert's?) partner after that, so he's not that bad||

spiral zealot
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Everyone: ||Ron please give us a discount your buisness will literally be useless and everythign obsolete after this||
Ron: ||Bah, 3% take it or leave it||

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I feel like if Ron talked like a human he would be cave johnson from portal

prime dirge
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Cave was a maniac with a purpose, Ron gives me easy-going money-focused vibes. So not sure

spiral zealot
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hmm yeah

prime dirge
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I thought you hadn't delved into the latter parts of the campaign volfredthink
So you knowing all that is a surprise tizomg

spiral zealot
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I have not

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I have seen every spoiler under the face of the stars tho sooo

prime dirge
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It's summer so I'd suggest you to play Pyre. Underrated indie gem IMO

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Whole channel can back me up on this; can't believe I'd say this to you
FeelsStrangeMan

spiral zealot
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i would, but the sheeer anxiety i get just murders me

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||just the thought of losing a character makes me die||

prime dirge
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Yes that's intended shadegrief

spiral zealot
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Maybe i shall play while my heart explodes and my rib cgae feels like it implodes

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but, since it would be the first time in a long while, and I am a fierce mae man, present your argument for any other name

prime dirge
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Once you finish it you'll have an informed opinion on Pyre being the best SGG game, unlike mine 😛

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Kae, since Logan gives a powerful K-sound. Makes you spring to attention.
Alternatively, TotalBiscuit picked Bae or Gae for funsies volfredthink

spiral zealot
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hm yes, aj screaming gae is funni

prime dirge
spiral zealot
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yeah

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the main problem is my main team consists of ||nomad, demon (very early characters so a lot easier to lose) and the Bertrude (THE FINAL CHARACTER)||

midnight hawk
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bertrude is so unbelievably powerful...... love that girl

prime dirge
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I couldn't last a second in the Rite Club, but managed to finish. On Normal. With few stars. But I count that as a win

midnight hawk
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hey beating the game is still beating the game

spiral zealot
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||AND I CANT VENE USE MEME STRATS OF TRIPLE ANYTHING RHKLJGWRGHKVB||

prime dirge
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Crones are broken on the Rite Club Babs 😛

midnight hawk
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i'm not surprised crones are ridiculously powerful, esp when you get bertie's talisman

spiral zealot
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oh yeah, that talismna

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  • looks around in never using it *
midnight hawk
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omg but it's so good

prime dirge
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AJ: You have been exiled. You shall have to learn to play as a newbie, without fancy chars or strats

toxic python
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the "walls are just a suggestion" talisman?

midnight hawk
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yes

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just destroying the other team immediately

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and her range is huge

spiral zealot
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i prefer ||nomads with their talisman and MASSIVE cast first||

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and then her with ||prayer bead yeeting her into the pyre||

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or with ||star splinter for the super fast uncatchable throw||

prime dirge
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It'd be a sight to see, two top players with triple OP crones. Maybe the difference wouldn't even be reflexes, but ping

toxic python
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my first campaign was weird once i got volfred
the other teams just sit there if you decide to put the sappling in mid of the orb
someday with a better laptop i will put higher difficulty to see if the overpass it

midnight hawk
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it is so funny to put the sapling on the orb

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the other team is just like ???? Something Is Different

toxic python
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they just walk

spiral zealot
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and then putting everyone next to int and making a massive linked aura

prime dirge
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But it's funny to watch them be puzzled nonetheless. Esp since the NWs have had to adapt to Manley's for some time by then

midnight hawk
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oh i'm just joking, like im sure doing the ai for this was ridiculous

spiral zealot
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ai hard

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especially for pyre

prime dirge
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Might be a reason Hades plays so well, there's more work on ARPG AI, and they had delved into that for Bastion already

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Greg: We're switching the genre for the next game
Programmers: shadedisgruntled

spiral zealot
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Greg: We're switching the genre
Programmers: Tell us something new

prime dirge
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(I meant on the whole 'read up on other methods, each with its own varied implementation possibilities' that SGG programmers have to go through every cycle)

spiral zealot
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yeah, i dont envy them

glossy bolt
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I low key want to do a playthrough where I fail every liberation rite

midnight hawk
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i think if you do ||at some point Volfred pulls you aside and is like dude what are you doing but in a Volfred way||

glossy bolt
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That's cool
I want to see it

lime mural
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What happens if you win every other Rite?

glossy bolt
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For now I'm doing a playthrough where I'm planning more now that I know the game

glossy bolt
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That's what happens if you don't have enough people liberated

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I think

spiral zealot
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(makign this up)

timid silo
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There are three tiers of success depending on the number of liberated exiles!

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The worst outcome is with 0 or 1 liberated exiles iirc, except if the one liberated exile is Volfred, in which case he's cool enough to count for two

midnight hawk
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he does give himself the highest percentage of having the plan succeed

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which is very funny

mild falcon
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Volfred arrogant... no one talks about that

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"I am very smart" - volfred, unprompted

trail talon
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he is probably right, though ||seeing as he was the original orchestrator of the movement, and his returning from the downside would be a monumental event for his supporters||

midnight hawk
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i wouldn't call Volfred arrogant, necessarily. he's the main agent in this and he knows the most of it, as well as having the closest ties to his informants. it makes sense, really.

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it's just funny he was bold enough to admit it

trail talon
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there’s a fine line between arrogance and confidence

timid silo
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It's all about the cause and not about himself

mild falcon
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Well it's all about the cause, but it is definitely HIS cause

fast ridge
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So I just finished the first liberation rite and the game just opened up a bit. Is there any real strategy as far as which order to pursue matches going forward?

mild falcon
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If you beat someone in a regular rite, you probably won't see them at that season's liberation

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And winning gives you more xp than losing

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That's mostly it

fast ridge
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Cool, that’s kind of what I figured. Thanks!

orchid flicker
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Just saying, I am currently obsessed with Vagrant Song

trail talon
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welcome to the club

midnight hawk
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vagrant song is a bop

orchid flicker
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My two current Pyre opinions:
Vagrant Song is great.
Hedwyn best boy.

timid silo
# fast ridge So I just finished the first liberation rite and the game just opened up a bit. ...

If you want to unlock the entire Book of Rites: try to go against different teams, in different arenas
If you want to follow the tiny storylines: try to go against a triumvirate with the Nightwing that's got some kind of connection to that triumvirate one way or another (eg, Sir Gilman and the Pyrehearts)
If you want to try to influence who's gonna be your opponent during the next liberation rite: as the riddler said, try to play whack a mole with the teams you don't want to face and consult Volfred's planner with the current scores!

timid silo
fast ridge
supple solar
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volfred pulling me aside sounds scary

heavy hill
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he takes you aside to give you a stern talking to about your grades

midnight hawk
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i feel like Volfred's "my kin" title would work for the all of the Reader gender options versus just the neutral one. "my girl/boy" can seem a bit like he views more as a child than a peer (although he probably has at least a hundred years on you anyway) but "my kin" places you as an equal, which makes sense with how he comes to treat you in the game

timid silo
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Agreed... It feels like the best option to me too.

untold quartz
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"my boy" is disastrous for me because all I can picture is CD-i Zelda

supple solar
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thats what he says when youre not they/them????

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im not sure if im amazed or terrified

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volfred: my girl
me: your WHAT

midnight hawk
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yeah! it's very weird

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like ive read people not liking Volfred bc of that, bc it becomes kind of like him talking down to you which really affects what his words mean

supple solar
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i can see that

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i hope i went with they/them then ajdjrnt

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that wouldve been a little weird

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and i really like volfred

midnight hawk
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hey actually what are the titles rukey used for you based on pronoun? i know he uses chum but i forget the others

timid silo
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Still chum for me with she/her

supple solar
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he called me sister when i was she/her

timid silo
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Huh, you're right, I remember sister too, but I could swear I also remember him using chum...

untold quartz
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Maybe he uses both?

orchid flicker
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He does use both when you play as a female.

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Right after you confirm your gender choice, he still calls you "chum"

orchid flicker
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"Can you play us a song to lighten the mood?"
"Sure, I can do that" (plays Vagrant Song)

rain pier
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Vagrant Song is for every mood.

timid silo
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It's a light bop if you're Tariq

strong turret
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Check my cover at #music please. thanks 😊

trail talon
timid silo
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For Tariq, sure!tariq

untold quartz
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My parents live near a beach and own a skiff my dad built, and I like singing when I'm out rowing, to keep time

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and I will often sing SGG songs, "Mother I'm Here/Build That Wall" and "Bound Together" and "Good Riddance" are especially good for that

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but I can't bring myself to sing "Vagrant Song" while I'm out on the water

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it just seems like inviting ill fortune 😰

molten gulch
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I don't know if someone ever mentioned this but Ti'zo's name is a little unfortunate to hear because its exact pronunciation in Egyptian Arabic means ||"his butt" (think NSFW word instead)||

untold quartz
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......you know, I think he would love that, though. 🤣

deep cedar
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I feel bad for ||not noticing that the liberation rite song changes depending on which triumvirate you're facing, until after finishing the game and checking out the soundtrack||

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unbelievable amount of effort went into this game

deep cedar
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that being said this game deserved a better combat system 😔💯

supple solar
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i like the combat system but i am completely incapable of learning it

timid silo
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I'm bad at it but I found it remarkably well balanced for a game that's only half based on it....

vestal bluff
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Haven't looked too hard, but you don't really see anything else quite like it

spiral zealot
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I love sportsball, but i can see why others dont

timid silo
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To the point that I find it surprising.. so PERHAPS Pyre wasn't enough of a smash hit to set a trend, but I find it weird that more people didn't separately come up with "made-up sport with superpowers in a narrative frame"

spiral zealot
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made up sport with superpowers is all I need but then you attach SGG storytelling and music

deep cedar
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I feel like it didn't really suit the type of game pyre is

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feels out of place

supple solar
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i loved sportsball but the mechanics clashed with my brain

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the frequent swapping the rest was fine

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i would do okay but id be slow and make many mistakes

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id still love to beat TN someday but id need at least 2 more playthroughs first

midnight hawk
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i liked the combat system, and this is coming from a person who previously never played any kind of sports game. just rebind your keys right and you'll be fine

fast ridge
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I’m enjoying the rites gameplay so far, but that said, I had to switch to a controller and reconfigure the buttons before everything started clicking.

spiral zealot
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yeah keyboard is harder to get used to at first as most people aren't used to using the mouse more then the keyboard imo

plush goblet
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Playing this again was such a good idea. I now think more methodically and understanding each character better,

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And I get the navigation now too,.

fast ridge
spiral zealot
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mm

untold quartz
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I didn't even start to get good at the Rites until 3/4 of the way through my first run

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So I enjoyed them a lot more on the second time through!

upbeat sage
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I don't think I ever got good at the rites bittieLUL

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they were still fun nontheless

untold quartz
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(Plus getting to know the characters that I'd sent up earlier the first time and unlock more content)

upbeat sage
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I really liked the changes in dialogue and character interactions based on who you sent up bittieAww

trail talon
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i can’t in good conscience throw matches, so i for one welcomed my natural ineptitude at the rites. a mix of wins and losses made the story and the stakes seem more real

midnight hawk
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i was pretty decent on my old computer (rip) but this new keyboard only set up is killing

prime dirge
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Seems like the new comp is a descent squirtheh

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USB mice are a lifesaver for many reasons, this included

haughty basalt
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I'm considering going for a fresh run with the intention to loose every rite possible but I have a feeling my heart may break ron

timid silo
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Yeah you losing streaks people are stronger than I'll ever be volfredthink

plush goblet
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I have never been good at the rites the first time I played. I failed miserably lol

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The second time around I actually was more calm to try and winning a few rounds do far

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It's a challenge for sure tho

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Im also learning to appreciate Jodiariel

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I didn't the first time

soft cliff
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I might try to use jodi mae ti'zo as my main, really curious how close i can get them to be as scary as the ||true nightwings||

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usually i send jodi away so quick im sorry-

unborn copper
midnight hawk
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me, who hasn't played pyre past the first rite in approx 500 yrs: i should write fanfiction

timid silo
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YOU SHOULD WRITE FANFICTION

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I'm currently in full Myst mode for the (virtual) Myst convention weekend but after this I've really been missing Volfred and all the gang... wanna draw all the things...

unborn copper
midnight hawk
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and ive had too much caffeine to sit still and play rip

deep cedar
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was looking in pyre files and WOW does AJ have a ton of voice lines

trail talon
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would he be considered to be the only fully voiced character of the game?

deep cedar
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i guess so, he has the most lines by far

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i counted about 6050?

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oh i found even more

native shard
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Makes sense. He's one of, like, two characters that are guaranteed to be with you the whole way through.

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Three, even.

mild falcon
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How many time does he say "GAAAEEEE"

soft cliff
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on my first run I actually got sad that he gets less friendly woth us

vague chasm
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I started to play a bit of Pyre today
I didn't start it right away because I was playing LEGO Games like a mature adult

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and I don't think I ever would have picked up this game if not for the fact that I've heard it's good from people here

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it's really...
weird
but not in a bad way, I like it

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and the gameplay is also weird

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it reminds me of, well...
soccer..?

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but it's still fun regardless

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this game has the weirdest things I've ever seen in a game
and yet I love it all

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so hats off to you SuperGiant, you have puzzled the hyuck out of me

timid silo
fast ridge
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I’m getting high fantasy NBA Jam vibes from Pyre myself, lol

spiral zealot
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AJ:"Come on lets slam welcome to the jam"

icy ocean
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Y'all, stop making the game look like apples or @midnight hawk will have to eat aplenty ablobowo

lavish ridge
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i know darren has called pyre “wizard basketball” before haha

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forget if it was in a panel or the noclip doc or something

spiral zealot
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We all call it wizard basketball

vague chasm
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if I ever recommend my friends to play the game and they ask "oh, what's it like?"

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I'm gonna say

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"basketball, but wizards"

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boom 12 new customers

trail talon
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“NBA Jam meets Oregon Trail” was logan cunningham’s description of it (in the noclip doc)

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wizard basketball is an unusual enough concept to catch interest, but it made me skeptical since i’m not a fan of sports games

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but pyre’s kind of a sports game, but also...not

fast ridge
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I can get behind wizard basketball.

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Sounds like a sub-genre in dire need of some more games.

untold quartz
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the Oregon Trail aspects are very underrated

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at one point you actually ||caulk the Wagon to float it across||, it's beautiful 🥰

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I cracked up laughing so hard

midnight hawk
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gonna play some pyre lads let's see if i can win a rite

spiral zealot
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good luck babs

midnight hawk
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pyre: Jodariel: consoling Hedwyn about something
me: 👀

faint hare
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i need to replay pyre lol

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i played it like nonstop for a couple days and got burnt out fast

midnight hawk
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replay it with me

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we're in this together

faint hare
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😳

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i have other games tho

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like ender lilies, im doing an ironman of fe7, and like a few horror things i wanna play

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pyre is amazing just idk if i have the energy to pick it up again

untold quartz
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I love that one of Jodi's off screen actions is braiding her hair, and another is lifting heavy objects

faint hare
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im curious what jodi looked like pre demon volfredthink

midnight hawk
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id imagine she was still pretty muscular

untold quartz
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She was a celebrated captain in the army, I assume she was pretty fit, yeah

spiral zealot
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imgaine seeing jodi pre demon and shes just this 4'11" little lady but everyone in the army has the exact same attittude to her as they do in the game

trail talon
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i imagine height wouldn’t change, and now i’m imagining a 4’11” demon

midnight hawk
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it might, the demons are super tall in the rights. and then looking at the ending screen, jodi is considerably taller than most of the others

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but a 4'11" demon would be hilarious

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itty thing with an absolutely massive aura

scenic kiln
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ti'zo but demon

spiral zealot
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I know need a drawing of tiny jodi

timid silo
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Haha picturing tiny buff Jodi sure is something!

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Demonified Downside ending ae is another mental image for sure...

haughty basalt
spiral zealot
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smol

vestal bluff
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Someone noticed that the triumvirate leaders for some teams used scaled-up models… so I found that setting and tweaked it for this

scenic kiln
#

Omfg, that's amazing

midnight hawk
#

the ittiest bittiest demon

trail talon
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the best part would be if these small demons had the same abilities as tall ones, like the shockwave/knockback effect that happens when they jump

midnight hawk
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Ti'zo just appeared in my playthru... a special boy

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You sense a depth of experience in this creature. At least judging by drive-imp standards.

faint hare
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ti'zo is a treat

mild falcon
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Jeez, reader pretty judgy in that first line

midnight hawk
#

what a backhanded compliment

trail talon
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reader’s still pretty new to the downside. hasn’t had a lot of experience with imps yet

orchid flicker
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Maybe one day I can commission some art of my Reader...

timid silo
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It'd be a lovely commission to get!

midnight hawk
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going thru flagging hands and my team's at -3 hope..... Scribes guide me

karmic whale
#

it's fine not the worst way to lose hope

midnight hawk
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good thing i funny use jodi she's at 7 sszxsdfg

karmic whale
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she's a very hopeless demon

faint hare
prime dirge
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Hah. I like how that's a gut punch that doesn't look like a gut punch

midnight hawk
#

great news i won and jodi got to score

prime dirge
#

Was it against the Pyrehearts? squirtdevious

midnight hawk
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withdrawn

prime dirge
#

Ruff matchup

midnight hawk
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they're almost as bad as the essence

soft cliff
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i'd say chastity is the worst, it makes tempers feel like a joke for me

supple solar
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oh yeah guess who had to fight both essence and withdrawn in lib rites 😢

midnight hawk
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i wish thinking abt the humor in pyre

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can you imagine if pyre wasnt a funny game. it'd be like the most depressing game on the planet.

trail talon
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it’s a human sort of game, a game that shows the extent of people’s adaptability. no humour would make it rather unrealistic

prime dirge
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The game is set in a depressing environment, with a depressing plot. But since it focuses on the NWs and their interactions and past and dreams, the game ends up feeling as a story of hope in a dark world (grimbright, was it?)

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But yes, the jokes and humor and Gilman's antics and tizomg being cute and the pretty sights* lift the mood a fair bit.

  • The Downside, and the game overall, may look worse than we think, as that could be the Reader's synesthesia at work.
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There's a moment with no interactions nor cutesy dialog. The ||credits||. So you naturally cry a lot shadegrief

lost lodge
#

I'm playing Pyre again. What a gem of a game. It is so beautiful and touching. Yet, I won't lie, I HATE playing Ti'Zo !

trail talon
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do what i do: don’t use his cast, just use him for his flight ability

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it’s even better ||when you get his talisman||

mild falcon
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No one dies in pyre unless you make biiig mistake, so it's a lot cheerier than every other SGG game

prime dirge
#

Even then, the story it tells is a downer. I was a frail farmer (?) that got booted from the place I grew in. Which has been a place of unrest and illiteracy from some time.

5 mins in and it's a depressing setting already, but not a depressing story

supple solar
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scratch five

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two minutes in and youre like

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oh thats me. and im dying.

midnight hawk
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see i wouldnt call it a depressing story. if pyre was dark and colorless and devoid of humor, if call it a depressing story. but you stay in this beautiful bright world and are immediately greeted with hedwyn, who goes out of his way to care for you and save you. id call it serious rather than depressing

timid silo
#

My first pick of descriptor for Pyre is "solemn" volfredthink

karmic vector
toxic python
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The one i hated the most was the one that sets up the banishment respawn to ultra long

supple solar
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cant remember tbh

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there was a lot of dunking though

vestal bluff
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Like the Howlers do in the Stowawae’s trial

prime dirge
#

It's a story of hope, or with hope, in a dark world. I think this contrast is what makes the game's end and the lib rite moments so strong (especially lib against the Fate, NWs lose)

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I didn't even get that particular outcome ||but reading about it broke me||

midnight hawk
midnight hawk
prime dirge
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Bastion is another story of hope with a background of despair, don't know about Transistor, and Hades is...not really something in the same mold. A story of hope and abuse, but doesn't have the same...let's say...imposing (?) background

prime dirge
#

Speaking of Almer, is there special dialog for using the talisman they give you during a rite against them?

trail talon
trail talon
trail talon
karmic vector
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Imagine killing stuff

trail talon
#

all you speedy folks can't stop to banish all your adversaries smell the roses

untold quartz
#

boom boom boom splattt

supple solar
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bless the scribes for the ability of custom Rites

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i might train up enough to best TN this way

unborn copper
vestal bluff
unborn copper
orchid flicker
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Happy birthday Pyre!

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🎉

vague chasm
#

wait it's Pyre's birthday?

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or am I late

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I hope I'm not late

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🥳 happy birthday to that weird basketball game! 🥳

midnight hawk
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nope! still the birthday of this lovely game

vague chasm
#

yaaaaaaaaay

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I didn't miss it

orchid flicker
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Four years of Religious Wizard Basketball

spiral zealot
#

PYRE BIRTHDAY?!?!

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Wizard Basketball i love you

toxic python
#

we all love wizard basketball SuiPray

spiral zealot
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jodi i love you more

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and Sandra, you are the best

deep cedar
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"was there" LMAO

orchid flicker
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I mean, he was

deep cedar
#

he stayed true to the end 😔✊

spiral zealot
#

these are amazing

plush goblet
#

Awesome

orchid flicker
#

This person gets it.

timid silo
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Heh. He's so loveable

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FANTASTIC choice for leader of the new Nightwings thank you very much

deep cedar
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What is this emote volfredpride

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Is volfred just thinkin about Gay

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like same but I thought it was kinda random lol

midnight hawk
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it's based off of :gaythink: i think

deep cedar
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Ooo i didn't know about this, ty!

supple solar
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Hedwyn was my favourite character right away and remained the fave until the very end

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contested only mildly by Volfred and Oralech later on

karmic vector
native shard
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Ye, he's also the only one who has someone specific waiting for him up there.

untold quartz
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this is Mama Greentail erasure and I shan't stand for it 😝

real laurel
#

Any resources for general tactics for the rites?

timid silo
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An entire server for multiplayer and exploring various tactics! I don't know if anyone's ever written down the basics though volfredthink

real laurel
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Hmm m not looking for multiplayer or another community, though.

supple solar
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Throw the orb at the enemy triumvirate and then banish them. Grab the orb. izi

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jk i kind of suck at this game

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but thats a viable tactic you can use

untold quartz
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Zoom+plunge is the most popular new player tactic I think, but throwing the orb into the pyre is worth learning to do

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2v3 is a setback for sure, especially if you tend to rely on a Speedy Boi or Pam

supple solar
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i didnt ask to be called out this hard

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also throwing instead of plunging is easier on your triumvirates lorewise

timid silo
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I mean, it's still the same game, campaign or multiplayer. I think they've also been refining strategies and overall fancy play that go far beyond the difficulty requirements of the campaign but it's still the same game - which abilities and talismans function best, basic play styles for the various classes etc. Who are you using?

untold quartz
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Oh my gosh, I took the car in for a safety check this morning and the mechanic reminded me so much of Jodariel

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A large and mighty blonde woman of frowning mien and powerful muscles, who was very gentle with my two year old and let him help pull the lever to lower a car on a hydraulic jack, then solemnly fist-bumped him

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Thank you for your assistance ma'am 😍

real laurel
# timid silo I mean, it's still the same game, campaign or multiplayer. I think they've also ...

I just do VS mode against the CPU (random teams), and my team is Sandra, Ti'zo, and one of the Nightwings depending on my mood at the time. Difficulty 3 has been pretty free wins for the most part, 4 I often feel like I don't really know what m doing and it's just tied for a long time with no one doing damage to the other's Pyre but I end up winning a small lead. The one time I did 5, I lost in like 30 seconds and did no damage to their Pyre lol.

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I turn talismans on/off and do Mastery anything from 1-4.

midnight hawk
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ive never thrown the orb in my life

orchid flicker
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You can throw the orb??

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📝

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(taking notes for my playthrough)

prime dirge
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You can, and most people would recommend it (it means your exile won't be banished for the next round). But it's a way to make your own difficulty. Which is clearly what Babs was going for tizomg

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Banishing the rival triumvirate then zooming was enough for me to finish the game (on normal).
Passing the orb helps a lot too, but I never figured it out volfredthink

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Pyre's true charm is not in its gameplay IMO, so playing it with your heart rather than your brain is...actually a good idea in my book. It's the journey that gives Pyre its beauty

stray rover
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just started my first Rite at Khaylmer...did I get tricked into playing soccer this whole time?

vestal bluff
stray rover
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ok so this is some BS that I keep seeing the AI do. They'll fling the orb into the pyre, and seemingly while it's in the air they'll plunge into it...Like the orb hasn't even hit the ground.

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what's that about? some mechanic I don't understand?

deep cedar
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also why is he called Khaylmer Rope-Caller? What is the meaning of rope-caller

stray rover
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ok I just played through the second liberation rite to the end, that's enough pyre

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is there a different ending song verse for every possible fate of each character?

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because if so, holy crap

supple solar
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i was streaming Pyre on a friends server and not expecting peoole to watch and suddenly someone goes "DID THE DOG JUST ASK IF YOU CAN READ"

supple solar
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i wonder if the pyre feels like normal fire. And for how long

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like shucks i dont wanna incinerate hedwyn every time i score a goal

mild falcon
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no one ever complains

untold quartz
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I mean, they complain a little? But about stuff like nausea and disorientation

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I feel like "horrible burning pain" world be included in that list if it was a thing, which gives me some peace of mind there 🤣

supple solar
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FEAR NOT THE PURIFYING FLAME

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can you imagine how it was figuring out what happens to you when you plunge into the pyre, though

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"i dont know about this milithe"
"lol no worries gol just yeet yourself into the fire youll be fiiine"

untold quartz
#

Tangent but I love the event where Hedwyn gets seasick and Tariq trolls Jodi that something awful has happened to him

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And then right when she's on the verge of a heart attack he pops up like "hello all, feeling much better, who wants dinner?" 😀

haughty basalt
timid silo
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Don't they say something.. somewhere.. about the raiments protecting the participants from the flames?

sturdy swallow
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Raiments - flameproof masks and orbs fashioned for the rites. - per the Book of Rites

toxic python
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Hearing some of the ost again and forgot how awesome is sky dance Sui_dance

supple solar
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if the raiments are flameproof then how do the triumvirates dissappear?

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if they dont get like

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consumed by the flames

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what happens to their body

young folio
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they get ~banished~

native shard
#

magic

supple solar
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broke: banishment sickness
woke: wizard basketball hangover

trail talon
#

it seems like they go somewhere, especially since they have to find their way back by the light of their own pyre

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Hope seems to influence how long it takes for them to find their way

orchid flicker
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No wonder why rite sickness is a thing, being constantly disoriented and dizzy sounds awful

wet olive
#

replaying pyre recently, oh the feels are mighty but they are nothing compared to reuniting with the nightwings c:

midnight hawk
#

shambles in late throwing the orb just stresses me out, you're too vulnerable for too long when you're throwing it

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just leap into the pyre

quasi turret
#

So I want to make a dnd character off of one of the pyre characters. What yall think is best?

sturdy swallow
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this isn't super helpful bc its another system but im running a pathfinder 2e campaign in the downside so lmk if you wanna know specifics about that

quasi turret
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Well still just what character would be fun to role play as

wet olive
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oh you wanna legit be one of them in dnd

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uhhh, thats tough honestly

#

pick one you have a good grasp of?

trail talon
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human characters may be easiest to translate (goliath Jodi, though...)

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Rhae as a cleric, perhaps

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Or Jodi as a straight fighter

quasi turret
#

Damn Jodi has always been my fav but I has reservation playing Jodi being a dude...

trail talon
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it’s ok to stick to what you’re comfortable with. are you limiting yourself to the Nightwings, or are you thinking of any pyre character?

#

and how accurate would you want to be regarding race class and personality?

quasi turret
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Naw, but its been a minute so I don't remember everyone

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I'm not set on race or class

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I was going to do my best reading the story and play with it

trail talon
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i don’t really have a lot of dnd experience myself, to be honest. i’d advise to reaquaint yourself with pyre’s story and characters and just choose the one you vibe with the most

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then the details would work themselves out

quasi turret
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That's why I asked. Im down with all characters, just wad thinking maybe someone would havr a favorite character. Maybe I'll do Jodi's sorry and make her more masculine

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I mean more than she is hahaha

trail talon
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i don’t think that would be hard. a hardened soldier with a soft spot for children and a fierce desire to protect those she cares about could work as a character of any gender

quasi turret
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Aight I'll have to figure out how ot work this.

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Thanks!!!

unborn copper
unborn copper
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^Live now!

wet olive
#

watchin the vods... thats a level of play i didn't realise existed

thorny ocean
#

hey all, i've tried googling for a bit but without much success; basically, pyre keeps crashing to the desktop every so often, making it virtually unplayable

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i don't have a dedicated graphic card (using an uhd 750 right now)

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could it be the reason?

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sorry if this is the wrong #channel

thorny ocean
timid silo
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tizomg Fingers crossed!

sullen nest
spiral zealot
#

most of the devs dont respond through these channels, you have a much larger chance of getting a response from their support / contact page: https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

orchid flicker
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It's a "turn up to In the Flame" kinda night

onyx cipher
prime dirge
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I was today years old when I realized that Knights of the Sea is very good. It could be the main theme of a tech-fantasy indie game

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And yet it's "another one on the pile" in Pyre. Mad stuff tizomg

trail talon
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Knights of the Sea is up there among Best Trimvirate Themes. it’s one of my motivation songs

midnight hawk
#

knights of the sea is an absolute bop

prime dirge
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It's funny how this is Deluge's theme. Do I need to be a coward or troubled medic to get a theme song this good? volfredthink

timid silo
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I hope Tariq made it for the Pyrehearts long before Deluge came around volfredthink Knights of the Sea, plural, good for wyrms in general but really not that one...

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OTOH Grand Ceremony is very much Manley in particular and feels nothing like the Chastity's founding principles...

native shard
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Knights of the Sea always felt more like Gilman's theme than the Deluge's

untold quartz
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Yeah, Knights of the Sea is more Wyrm Culture(tm) than Deluge specifically imho

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Which is funnier, the Pyrehearts being basically named "the Pirates" in English, or their Sahrian name translating to the Fire Fires

midnight hawk
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fire fires

timid silo
#

Concept, Celestariq occasionally rewrite the triumvirates' themes based on how their attitudes evolve, and the Chastity were the most recent. Tariq saw Manley once and went "okay I have to rewrite this whole thing"

untold quartz
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new triumvirate name: the Pretentious Glassbowls 🙃

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hand me the harpsichord, Celeste, I am inspired

orchid flicker
#

It's Moon Moon all over again

untold quartz
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the Moon Moon of triumvirates, RIP

timid silo
#

Truly

prime dirge
#

this?
Ah, you mentioned it's a theory but seems to be unconfirmed volfredthink

prime dirge
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(Might be wrong on the Milithe part, so someone plz confirm)

trail talon
#

Milithe might fit that theme, it might just be very bog-crone-ish. it's a stretch, but even Bertrude might be able to fit the theme

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Grand Ceremony has Manley's arrogance written all over it, in my opinion: doesn't seem like the original Chastity's theme

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Path to Glory has always stumped me with what it's meant to represent

prime dirge
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All three crones are dangerous in their own way, but I feel like Milithe and Bertrude are "I'll be dangerous for science!" whereas Udmildhe would curse you just for crossing her path.

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And Dread Design feels like walking through a dangerous part of town, so it might be me but it feels much more like Udmildhe than the other two

prime dirge
trail talon
#

it's not really happy either: it has sort of a "the stars are watching you" feel to me

untold quartz
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It's just an amusing thing that both of these sad sacks happened to get such jams for "their" themes 😅

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I get a sense of breathless excitement from Path to Glory - the chips are down and it's your first real Rite with real stakes 🌟

supple solar
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Glorious Tradition always felt like a bit of both

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first part definitely almer, the second more hopeful for Jomuer

prime dirge
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It's subjective territory here, but I feel like Glorious Tradition is the "energetic variant" of A Step Closer. A bit like the allegro and moderate versions of Phoenix Wright songs volfredthink

trail talon
#

but i think you're right: Path to Glory is more like the Theme of the First Rite than anything else

trail talon
timid silo
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Deluge defense squad rise up 😅

timid silo
prime dirge
#

Regarding Deluge, this explains his deep feel of betrayal by Gilman: what Deluge dreamed of his whole life Gilman did in a few seconds

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Is Manley an AA witness though? The witnesses are forgetful, unclear or get lost in Edgeworth's eyes, whereas Manley is devious and scheming

untold quartz
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Yeah, I don't fault Deluge at all for fleeing in battle or being squashed into an ill-fitting and traumatic warrior role, that's all legit

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But I do fault him for being consistently horrid to Gilman, who has never been anything but kind and encouraging to him.

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There was no need to take his distress out on an underling like that, and yet the scolding and screaming is incessant. Do better, Deluge.

supple solar
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do better for lady seagrass and ur kids

unborn copper
unborn copper
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^Live now!

orchid flicker
#

Okay, so lore question brought on by watching Rite Nite

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The Nightwings have to be an opponent at the Liberation Rites? Like, if two other triumvirates wanted to face off against each other there it wouldn't work?

native shard
#

i think so

mild falcon
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yeah that's the lore. the nightwings are the opponent that all other triumverates must test themselves against

orchid flicker
#

So, then, what happened when the Nightwings went defunct? Nobody got out?

thick agate
#

Yep! When the Nightwings disappeared, nobody went free until they came back MaD_swan

timid silo
#

For 5-6 years...

prime dirge
#

Lendel mentions this upon meeting him, says something like

Ah, so the rumors were true. You've finally returned, Nightwings. Let us finally fite rite.

trail talon
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"do you even rite, bro"

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terrible joke, i do apologize

midnight hawk
prime dirge
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"Do you even lift, bro?" is something that other leaders could unironically say to each other tizomg

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  • Ah, yes, so I used to have the finest food in the Commonwealth
  • That's neat Manley, but do you even lift (people at Soliam's Fall)?
  • No, wretched Nightwings disappeared years ago
  • Ah, that's true
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I feel like that has potential for funny dialog but it won't be me who finds it sneeb

stoic junco
#

Anyhoo, I have an interesting question, to all people who possess intimate Pyre knowledge. One of my friends plans on running a one-shot (with high hopes for a campaign) on Pyre and wants to have maps. I have measured the Book of Rites map some time ago (somewhat accurately), but I was wondering if there was another way to know the layout of the game fields.

prime dirge
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That might be in the game files somewhere. You could ask in the other servers volfredthink

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I don't think there's that big of a variability. The strangest example would be that field that gets smaller as the rite goes on

prime dirge
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Might want to spoilermark those T&T spoilers though sneeb

stoic junco
prime dirge
stoic junco
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It comes in Dual Destinies case 2.

prime dirge
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Now that we have an influx of (PS4) players, we could change our names and pfps to Pyre stuff, hoping to get people to play this masterpiece (of the lot)

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Then again I might be delusional sneeb

vague chasm
prime dirge
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Ah, fair point. We could still try some funny things with the nicknames like the mods did for April Fools'

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Failer must be having a giggle reading this shadeohboy

vague chasm
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:(

midnight hawk
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go khaylmer man

prime dirge
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But man. Coming up with the pun names is not easy at all. Coming up with something that time musta been between funny and frustrating

midnight hawk
prime dirge
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Nope. My own voice and a wiki preview showed Khalymer. Then opening the wiki shows it's Khaylmer

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gets exiled banne

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Hold on. Can't read, so I shouldn't get exiled 👉 🧠

vague chasm
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thank you very much

midnight hawk
prime dirge
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Let's see if this works

midnight hawk
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hell yes

prime dirge
#

The change does, but the Plan doesn't look as solid as Volf's

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Eh, we'll see

midnight hawk
#

speaking of Volfred

thick agate
#

I’ve got the perfect nickname for this haha

prime dirge
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You can make the case for using eyeliner in sports I think. There's all that "athletes with dark eyes perform better in sunny places"

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Volfred has green eyes, so...new headcanon? Volfred kept using eyeliner since || he hadn't given up fully on taking part in the rites||

prime dirge
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I'm ambivalent about my "About me". I had it since before Hedwyn, but it's a bit of a spoiler

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Then again, by the time someone gets it for the first time it's not a spoiler anymore volfredthink

untold quartz
#

Pyre fans represent 💕

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I swear it's turning into the FFIX of Supergiant Games

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"That one that hardly anybody tries in the first place because they think it looks weird/silly, but most people who actually give it a decent try end up as ride-or-die fans" 🤣

toxic python
#

Relatable dusa

timid silo
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Good comparison... 🤔

toxic python
#

I want to play again but at the same time the first time doing the ending was so perfect
Help SkyDontGo

haughty basalt
#

Same here

trail talon
#

i tend to wait until the memory of the story gets a bit foggy, but that doesn’t completely work for pyre because of how unforgettable it is

untold quartz
#

Personally, I think Pyre is definitely best experienced by playing it at least twice. 💕

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That way you can try out story branches you didn't pursue the first time through, and have a chance to get to know any characters you sent up early in your first run, if you want.

supple solar
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i would just like to say i keep reading hedwyns hedband as hedwyns husband

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i think my own wishes are kinda seeping through from my subconscious

stoic junco
#

I kept my profile pic Pyre-related specifically because of this server.

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Despite me not being here much anymore.

unborn copper
prime dirge
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You can always play on TN or in meanie mode to spice up playthrough ron

toxic python
#

When my laptop doesnt goes into 10 fps i will try dusa

prime dirge
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Another way to play Pyre is to convince someone else to play it and then watch them experience all the twists and reveals volfredthink

toxic python
#

...that doesnt sounds too bad actually

prime dirge
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New player: gets to the credits
SomeNoobDying: hands some tissues

spiral zealot
#

Another way to play pyre is to get anxiety and crippling analysis paralysis by simply talking to the cool dude riding on his dad selling some jewellery

toxic python
#

Reminds me when ron asked me to help him only to be thrown a -2 hope (or was it worse? I dont remember)

young folio
#

i think its -5 deepfron

spiral zealot
#

deep fry ron is the perfect emote to ever exist

prime dirge
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Is it wrong to think that we need deepfron on the server? Looks extra-ronny if that makes sense

spiral zealot
#

it looks more ronny then normal ron

prime dirge
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🦅 Ron v. 🍋 Ron