#pyre
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Are they arc words though? The term seems to be used in the same way as IRL 
I expected these as pairs: ||
and
or
and Or. I think the epilogue descriptions even change a bit if they are together? Also
and
|| Unless you mean "they call each other kindred spirits" at some point
I got three of the pairs on my playthrough, but I don't remember the term being used at all 
wait, what are "arc words" in this game? is there a list?
yeah what is a arc word?
because if there is I can find them, i just need to know what they are
It’s a storytelling thing, not a gameplay thing
A phrase that signifies something to do with a story arc, which in Pyre’s case is “kindred spirits”
To me, "kindred spirits" seems to be a concept used in the game, so not quite arc words
"There is no escape" for Hades, "Remember Reach" for Halo Reach, sound like arc words though. Unless these are theme words or mottos 
For Pyre, my best guess is "
Freedom is a privilege. Yours has been revoked!
"
there's a very cool example near the end of the game ||where you make a speech to your remaining exiles, and that last line of the speech gets reused later on; you get to literally create your own arc words||
but also, "The Eight Scribes gave their freedom so that we may yet have ours" (which i took from the tvtropes page)
ohhh ok
I always figured that pyre's arc words were chosen by the player in their speech, since that phrase comes up a lot near the end
never thought of kindred spirits though!
I'm getting Pyre on the Steam Sale
excited to see how it turns out!
Get some tissues ready hehe
It's a great journey, visually. Also musically and...storycally, or whatever the word for that is
story-wise?
thanks for the advice
let me go get them right away
Yup. Sorry, words hard
As usual, I must suggest you to play Pyre in a big screen if possible. The sights are very pretty. Also with speakers or earphones, since the music helps you vibe and also enhances the mood 
Also, reading the book is fun from time to time
I'm sorry, the book?
but books are for libraries
amirite
Books are for pyres i guess
You'll know what we mean once you see it. For now it's time for you to wake up.
Alan, wake up
always read the book
the book of rites awakened the nightwings and ignited the flame
Replaying, and jc first time i saw the lone minstrel in the wagon before he dissapears
The first time i played it i got so confused when it was mentioned
i saw him and was just waiting for someone to mention him. odd that no one ever says "oh that guy, he's asleep all the time, don't bother him"
I'm at the part in the Flagging Hands and I just ||told Rukey to shave his mustache and when he did he gained +1 hope||. I'm curious, does anyone know what happens if you tell him to keep it?
He keeps it, gets the hope, and you don't anger the entire discord
LOL i was wondering if it was the same result
Thank you
There were like chainsaw noises
let me be the first to say oh noooo
So you have chosen ... death
vs mode is great for messing around with a lot of talisman i never bothered to use 
did a team where all 3 of my team could banish with the orb
Vs mode is great
also understimated the wyrms, jc they go fast
Zoom wyrm. Have you seen lightning run tailwind dogs tho?

My favorite is plunging crones although I know it's not very popular
tho i really want to get a better laptop, sometimes i lag and suddenly either me or the other team is on the contrary side of the map
Hate when that happens, suggestion, you get a better laptop and it only runs pyre. You fit it out just to run pyre perfectly. You could say it's just rite
i-...
that was good
Thank you thank you. I live for bad puns
but gotta say, at first pyre didnt sound fun bc "sport game" but the gameplay is great
and the songs in game give so much feels
brb crying to bound together
ngl ||I'm not a fan of the gameplay but I'm playing it for the story/art/music 🥲||
that’s fine, since ||you don’t need to be good at the gameplay to finish the game and in fact it’s worth doing a run of losses at least once||
I love the pyre gameplay. I keep playing it just for that. ||Havent touched story mode in a while as I get too much anxiety thinking "I have to get rid of one of my people ahhh my team composition"||
my first playthrough i screwed myself agaisnt the essence by having no flying characters
by the ||last liberation rites||
Ive won all the rites so far I just go zoom zoom
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Was it a joke back when Babs said this was the summer of the Crone, or did that mean anything?
So Greg told you over the phone or something 
Been a while since I do anything, but Bertrude seems easy to draw
Bertrude and Pam is better, but Pam is so detailed. Imma try Bertrude
I just finished the game recently for the first time and damn it's so good
I love the music and the art
Everything's pretty
all of sgg's games are beautiful but i think pyre has some of the most stunning visuals
easily
I love how when they dont want to participate in a rite they are just like "I pretend I do not see it" https://i.imgur.com/Mo8ju1I.png
"hey you got 3 essays overdue"
me: ^
at what point does *ae not want to rite?
It was when I met Tamitha and no one else wanted to volunteer first
to go against the harps
This should happen too if she's ill or not able to be anointed. But I think the text says Unavailable (?) instead. Does the sprite change for this too?
yeah
it changes like that when they cant conduct a rite, whatever the reason may be
i think pyre has very good designs but it'd be cool if non-humanoid races were a little more monster-y or feral
like knocked it out of the park w the crones
but what about harps
I def would like more bird looking harps
like they got the necks and all
but face is just human
Like those fanarts on Tumblr, you know the ones? I think the artist deactivated but they had a lot of studies of more birdlike Pam...
yeah i think the artist's name was savi? i could be wrong. but they drew great more monster-y pam
alright the beyonders in tizo's scribe trial are overpowered as HECK
nevermind it turns out i have just been sleeping on Mae this whole time
On my previous playthrough I went into the game totally blind and I didn't really know what strategies use and stuff so I basically just centered half of the game on making Jodi faster
In the end I got her to ~ 15 speed I think
She can go for a jog with Oralech (whose base walk is amusingly fast)
That 0 hope tho 😩
go for a jog and cheer each other up so he doesn't take a minute-long depression nap!!
fanart of Jodi and Oralech out jogging in 80s headbands and legwarmers when
so I ||liberated jodi first but I didn't get to learn that much about her (reason for exile, etc.) 🥺 will I still get to learn about her later?||
||Not unless you play through again.||
aww dang, thank you for answering though!
happened to me as well :/ but with different character
I don't think you can see everyone's past in a single game! They start unlocking after the first liberation rite iirc?
Hello all! ive just joined and spent my 10 minutes before being able to chat to search for other people with my issue, but it appears there wasnt much relatable/solvable in the replies.. so im gonna ask anyway, to see if somebody can help. sorry if im re-opening old topics but i feel i have to. so: my game keeps crashing/freezing. first it was when the steam overlay opened up, for example upon gaining an achievement, my game would freeze and stutter and all, and i would be forced to close it and redo a few minutes of the game. this is annoying but i can overcome, but now its doing that every 10 minutes or so, even when i disabled the steam overlay. the last time (the one that made me come here) my game just crashed, instantly closed, and made me sad and not willing to try starting it up again (ive restarted 5 times today allready, its getting annoying). i then decided i like the game too much to just give up on it, but i am getting close to that point. any idea why this happens and what i can do to counter it? i would love to finish the story and not just stop playing mid-2nd-liberation
oh and to add to this: ive not had these crashes/freezes in the first 8/9 hours of gameplay, but about 20 or so in the last 3 hours
so obviously im thinking something has changed, but i dont know what that would be
I think you can if I remember my playthrough correctly
||i liberated hedwyn first but after some earlier rite you can ask him about his reasons and all and he just tells you. Then I guess I just tried to be nice to everyone and chat with them on every occasion||
I had this problem too
Try restarting your computer, that fixed it in my case
Oh huh! Nice! I can say for sure it's never happened to me in three playthroughs so it may be... somewhat rare?
im pretty sure you can get everyones pasts if you dont liberate anyone
Oh, hah, there's that of course!
i'm listening to the ost
is that a sousaphone i hear in the last song?
i can't help but think of veggietales lmao
it could be a tuba idk anything about brass instruments
Coincidentally, this can be argued to be the canon ending: ||Remember that drawing with all of the Nighwings looking at the stars? That can only happen if everyone stays down||
(That's it, that's my only argument)
that would be an easy fix, thanks! ill try that for sure
Yeah I lost my first liberation rite cause i wasnt ready to let anyone go yet djfbjf
||bit me later cause i didnt get a peaceful revolution||
Counterpoint: ||what stars?|| It has to be a memory...
||Whoops. I got mixed up with the stars during the credits. The drawing at the end has the
but no stars: https://i0.wp.com/www.nerdspeaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Pyre-Wallpaper-Ending-5-3840x2160.jpg?ssl=1 ||
I think those dots are stars, although not the Scribes' stars
But that can mean anything
That'd make sense, since those are all of the same blueish color and don't have the same shape 
My point was ||that the image above only happens if everyone remains. But that may be a dream or something||
Mine was that ||there are no stars in the sky by the time the game ends, they've all faded. So those tiny stars there seem to me to hint at the image being a memory or a wish!|| Besides, I can't imagine the game arguing in any shape or form in favour of leaving everyone down
||THERE ARE SCRIBE-STYLE STARS IN THE CREDITS ROLL TOO.
I can see this as "decades have passed, but the Nightwings have lived on in song". Would make sense considering how songs and tales can live on even before/without literacy.
And if the stars in the credits are any indication, that could mean the rites are coming back at some point in the future (Ashpaw Rite League ❓👀) ||
This entire credits sequence made me so happy and sad at the same time
||i think it’s implied that the stars will return someday, though i forget when||
||I also don't think the game gave any other indication to leave everyone down. And I like that wallpaper a lot (and want to print it). But it's funny how that could only happen if everyone remains :(||
||There is a phrase "Now, at the end, as we bid farewell and return to the stars, we shall find our way home". Always thought that current Nightwings were (in a way) a reincarnation of Scribes, and that line implied that they will be back together anyway and mere distance would not be able to separate them, and that was shown there||
Spoilers + theories, beware
||i thought that “we” referred to tariq and celeste||
||In my head, it was like "we all", since Tariq was with Nightwings all the time (even if it was his purpose or smth similar)||
wait why do some of the titan stars give you advantages? I thought they were supposed to be challenges? or am I misunderstanding
ohhh... nevermind I didn't notice the "your adversaries" part 🤡
||I hadn't considered the other possibility, as I also thought that last verse refers to
and
. Tariq is clear in his "We'll finally be able to spend time together; I won't have to stay with the Blackwagon." near the end, even if Celeste admonishes him right then.
Also, the song refers to Nightwings as found their way home /remained in the end, but in that last verse it finally breaks the rule, just as it seems like it's not talking about the Nightwings anymore.
The last half-baked argument is: the moon and Nightwings drawing doesn't feature
, unless he's there as the Moon
This is also possible since Celeste wasn't really part of the NW, so she's not drawn there||
(Not hellbent on this, just gravitated naturally since the first time to "They mean both of them, not all of us")
Maybe it's just me, but I didn't get happy vibes from it. Triumphant, yes. Sad too. But it doesn't sit right with me to call it happy 
(This is even more subjective than my points above)
Im trying to beat oralech with all titan stars activated and having an extremely bad time
Have you considered...passing? Defending first and attacking once they're banished?
That's a difficult rite and the game lets you get away with developing crutches otherwise, so changing the playstyle should help
In what way to change it, I don't really know. But we can try 
yeah ur right 😔 the whole time I have been getting away with just zooming with one exile but this... this rite make me want to uninstall Steam
I might give up lol
The only failure is to stray from the path.
This means if you uninstall Pyre right now I shall h(a)unt you 😤
Would it be that bad to concede, though?
No but i wanna Win 😪
Also what does straying from the path even mean?
I feel like u don't have a choice but to go where you're supposed to? or is it more a figurative thing
It means to stop being the Nightwings' reader, or for the NWs to give up their robes
So. You could ||restart the rite with fewer stars (haven't tried this, hope it works), or be more patient banishing them before throwing (don't plunge, you need your three exiles rn)||
(i am afraid to read that because I have not finished the game 😢)
also I am just going to give up on this rite I don't stand a chance against handsome demon man
That's meant for you 😛
Oof. But you could still change your anointed so that you can have an easier time defending
Dang, I was about to say that you should blame Tobu if anything goes wrong with that plan
#supergiant-games message
If it helps in any way, I had Fred anointed, so I could quickly place the sap near the orb and give myself some breathing room
LMAO at the start of the rite oralech literally just jumped to our pyre and walked into everyone and banished them all instantly
Fred? 👀

Ooh
Who is your triumvirate for this? :/
Man's commited 
Are you able to deal some damage while he's out? You could try this sort of "eye for an eye" plan with extra HP on your Pyre
No they are all too fast and strong and respawn too fast 
I was changing it around a lot but generally trying to be Fast
I wonder if this is like trying to beat Hades on ||50 heat|| or something
So...do you have any amulet in store that may change your strats?
Maybe something like +4 aura size in someone that has a massive aura already
Ahh not really I haven't invested much in talismans
I just accepted defeat here and I'm gonna deactivate some of the titan stars from here on out hah
Also an idea. I tried a few stars but things got more tense than I'd like
Plum tried with many but I believe every rite made him sweat so much it caused leaks in his house
screw it. 0 titan stars
I want to Enjoy
I dont want challenge anymore i just want to be happy

So play as you feel comfortable. I gave myself a bit of difficulty by using suboptimal amulets or compositions
But for you, maybe Pyre means playing with some stars. Or none 
thank you for the advice hehe
The only failure is straying from the path intensifies
so... ||that's not like... possible in the game though, right? 👀||
it's more of like... a saying...?
They mean to have the player give up, yes. Since some players could realistically lose most of the rites, they had to find a way to justify the NWs not quitting on the reader, and the story still had to advance in some way
Ahh ok
If I ever try a full-star run this is going to be quite useful 😅
Point is there's no shame in losing. So you may carry on reading
well to be fair I am pretty terrible at the game so you would probably do better hahah
My playstyle is "Rukey go brrr"
i want to try use more titan stars but my laptop already struggles with normal matches and suddenly enemy team scoring on me 
I had fun with fliers 
At some point I had to use my plan B of banishing then going for a throw
I've been told you can pass, ~~but I think that's locked behind a DLC
~~
pamitha is one of my fav characters bc aura burst go brrrrrrr
but... rukey... FAST...
rukey zooming also is fun
(also that amulet that lets you banish with orb + _ae
)
I heard a while back about some programs that close other processes so that gaming is smoother. You could...clean your comp? That could increase performance
There's more than one strong strat, but whichever you choose you should have at least a plan B
Like...fierce defense with Jodi, or something
Hedwyn throwing the orb at some opponent and banishing them when they lose their aura
the most problems i got was oralech wich i ended taking the lost and the essence in the liberation rite
didnt have a good way to stop them from flying
You can jump against a flyer. But that particular rite I think...I fought them with Pam?
I used Pam too but ||in the middle of it she said she wanted the essence to win so I was like "ok!" and let them win||
yeah... that was my problem
was either pam or other 2 i didnt want to liberate
and i just didnt wanted to give the win 
i think the most i dissapointed myself in the game was getting hedwyn amulet and ||liberating him first||
i think he is fine
more survability at least
he should stick to cooking
I didn't do much with him (first lib'd) but in skilled hands a nomad can zoom and banish and throw the orb
Don't quite remember the strat but they can be dangerous is what I'm saying
i havent played the story mode in a while tbh
i like to mess around in versus (specially to test things)
Hey, who's blaming me for what now??
(also don't badmouth Hedwyn, my loves, he's a well-rounded boy and with the right skill tree he is deadly against Harps which is no small thing)
this is after a nerf?
😔
All I was saying is that we tried Tobu's "you're allowed to reset very important rites" plan, but the Stars couldn't be changed anymore, so Or walked all over Freeze's triumvirate
Taken from the wiki, also matches what I remember: Triesta's Plume (only usable by Pamitha during the campaign): While flying, Pamitha shall not be banished by dousing the adversary's Pyre, and deal: +5 damage.
Was there a nerf at all?
yeah it didn't use to be like that, the wiki only has the current talisman stats
The Plume used to give a bigger damage bonus, then
So broken. Wonder why they left it 
It was always a max of +5 damage (depending on the Talisman’s level), but the chance to come back after plunging while flying is 50% nowadays, whereas it was 100% before
Basically a second Prayer Beads, which is already among the best Talismans
thank u failer
hey time sensitive questions that are also end game spoilers: ||do all the stars fade or just the titan stars?|| and ||what's the smallest amount of characters that you can keep down? like winning every lib rite and having the reader go up||
||the titan stars cause the other stars to fade: only the titan stars remain. you can leave as few as two exiles below, i think (three if the reader goes up)||
||yea you leave min2 max3 if you win every lib rite, I ended with 3 since I liberated oralech||
thank u!
Oh dear, I didn't mean that as a plan so much as a philosophy 😅
I tried to let go and accept it when I lost a rite, but I gave myself more leeway to ||try and start over as much as possible when it was a lib rite||
That's all 🤣
We got that, it's just that given the situation we were in, restarting became a plan (which didn't work cuz stars)
Turns out nobody expects the speedy demon inquisition 
if you exit to the menu and reload it'll get you right before the rite so you can start over on which stars you want
Oh that's possible. Well. That's the cure for star overdose 
So I just read a fun and friendly :) Pyre fic, but ||it didn't quite match the description. Is that common in the Pyrefic community, or was that an author's quirk?||
do you mean the one i wrote? i was joking about it because it is actually not fun or friendly. it's an author's quirk
Yup, that one. Icy cold and all that 🥶
if it's any consolation i am working on things that are actually fun and friendly
I mean, there's loads of fun and friendly fic for Pyre
I'm very fond of the one where they fly around harassing people with the horn on the blackwagon
No, no, that's canon 
and I just published one the other month that's effectively Jodi taking the Girl clothes shopping
if you want cozy Pyre fic, there's a lot of happiness awaiting you on AO3
Do you have a link? (if that's allowed in the channel)
i think a little linking on this channel should be fine
but if there's a lot then it should be moved to #fan-works
Sure, I can drop links in fanworks! Which one did you want? The horn?
Yes. Crashing with other wagons was a minor highlight of mine 
Posted!
ORB WIFE
IS ORB LIFE
got my baby sibling to start pyre
they love it so far
slowly immersing my family into sgg
ONE OF US 👏 ONE OF US 👏
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i revived my old wattpad account because i started writing again, it wasnt pyre related but
i always had an idea for a fic and im thinking now might be a decent time to try ajfhf
Hi! I was directed here by a Reddit user because I had a question.
I was trying to find the specific voice clips for the victory cheers after dumping the VO .bank file, but couldn't find any (at least, as far as I'm aware). Am I looking in the wrong place?
Heyo! I'd ask that in the modding server, pinned in #self-promotion ^.^
Check emotes.bank, too — if you're referring to the voice clips where they say "noxalas" and the like, you can find those in there
Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for! Thank you.
Well thanks Steam Summer Sale, now I have an easy excuse to download Pyre and complete my SGG collection!
finished pyre for the first time 
very curious ||as to what happens if you free yourself at the end?? as well as a bunch of other outcomes? guess it is time to play it again
||
Absolutely time to play again
and now you can better plan ||who you can't bring yourself to separate, who you want to leave down etc||!
yeah! ||I feel so bad i left hedwyn's freedom for the last rite but didn't realize he wouldn't get to go free. he deserved better 😭||
Oooooooof yeah that's insta-replay material. Same with Volfred for me 😔
||I liked him too much so i waited too long to free him😭😭gotta free the others this time around!! ||
It's a great journey 
As usual, I have to suggest you to play with sound on (music is very atmospheric), and to take in the sights whenever you want to chill or feel like taking a moment planning your team composition and such.
Do read the Book sometimes too, it adds to the experience
Thanks for the tips. I plan taking my time with this one, so I’ll be sure to soak the atmosphere in.
the sheer amount of music, art, and writing in this game is mind boggling especially considering how small their team is
like. Greg just wrote... all that?
greg writes with all 4 limbs at the same time
I bet!!! He's gotta have at least 2 brains
i feel like with this game i didnt truly appreciate it until after finishing it & letting it sit for a while
listening to soundtrack again and everything makes sense now and making me emotional 
I had a dream there was a pyre choose your own adventure book
hi. so i just bought pyre yesterday and played with my old laptop but the fps are too low for me, around 17fps. while transistor, bastion and even hades runs well on my laptop, i got around 30-45 fps in hades. i have searched on how to fix this but haven't found anything that works. i have updated drivers, setting launch option and launch the game in borderless window but still lagging. i wonder if someone know how to fix this, it would be a big help for me
have you made sure you don't have anything else running in the background that could be slowing it down?
yes i even stopped steam from running
Alright--which launch options did you try?
/Bloom=false /DrawRecursivePaths=false/FullScreen=false /NoBorder=true /X=1920 /Y=1080
NoFixedStep=true /SwapInterval=0
i have tried setting windowed/fullscreen from ingame too but still lagging
alright, a couple things to try, with regards to those--
as far as I'm aware, it's /DrawBloom=false, not just /Bloom=false
I'm not certain the the FixedStep, RecursivePaths, and Interval ones actually do anything--either way, don't forget the / in front of the FixedStep
You can also try adding /DrawBlendMax=8 /DrawLights=false /DrawColorGrading=false, though I'm not positive that those'll work for Pyre (they're from Hades, but might've existed back then)
alright I'll try it out, thanks for helping me
Sure thing ^.^ Best of luck!
Hello! I'm working on adding Pyre-based cards into the card game Binding of Isaac - Four Souls, and the images on the wiki are just a bit too low resolution for me to use. Is there anywhere I can get higher resolution images, either from the game files or from some other place?
I'd ask the modding server, link pinned in #self-promotion ^.^
All right, thanks!
(If anyone here has some more information as well, I would be very appreciative of it)
Pyre's graphics can be extracted from the "packages" folder, if you haven't checked there yet 
||Bound Together|| really got me like

Pyre would make a great animated film
or a tv series, perhaps
So wasn’t sure what I was expecting with Pyre, but so far I dig it.
It's a journey that engages your eyes, ears, and heart.
Also your hands at times 
Pyre is one of my favourite Supergiant Games! Just leaving this message asking for a Switch port 🙂
Also, a physical release of this game would be amazing. I own a physical copy of Hades and the Limited Run Games release of Bastion and Transistor.
It probably will never be ported to switch
Unless SuperGiant totally runs out of ideas or things to do, even then
Pyre was hte least financially succesful game for them
and the cost to port to switch would be too high for the profit it would make
They ported both Bastion and Transistor, so I still have hope 🙂
man i got pyre a while ago, made it a decent way through, and then haven't picked it up in a while so i decided to play again today
first of all, going into a rite without practicing first wasn't my best idea lol
second of all, idk why but the game just keeps crashing on my computer 😭
That stinks
Is there an error or does it just close?
Massivly important qujestion that might split hte entire fandom apart
who is better

or
lol
I have acheived peak boredom
so you know this concept art
you see that text there?
yeah i do too
and you know what else
its english
and you know wht else
i currently have notepad++ open writing all this down
so far I have
Desire, that they cannot forsee the pain and trouble that are bound to (presumably arise but hard to see) and equal blame belongs to those who fail in ther duty through /n
Every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided (indecipherable, potentially that) in certain circumstances and (indecipherable) is the claims of (indecipherable) or the obligations of business if (potentially "will") freq /n
orse prints. On the other hand, we (indecipherable) with righteous imagination and (looks like dislike, not sure) (men?) (indecipherable) are (to, might not even be a word, very hard to tell) (tainted?) and demoralized by the charms of plasure of the moment so blinded
this thing talks about pleasure a lot
hmm this text seems to be one block of text copy and pasted over and over
Could use the whole thing to get one clear copy of the block of text?
probably
ill keep at it then trying to write this entire thing down
then it can be stitched together
then we can uncover the truths of the pyre that never was
you think greg will giv me a prize if i do all this because boy is this a lot of text
Is that anemic Rukey? The designs are a bit disturbing
For a moment I thought you had OCR'd it. Maybe that's an easier path?
It could very well be a hidden message 
But I guarantee you Greg forgot about it by this point 
lol
ocr probably wont help as each character is like 3 or 4 pixles and theres this:
and this is early concept designs shown in the noclip documentary
fi?minEb
? is I've no idea
There must be a PS/Pinta/GIMP trick to raise contrast a lot
Also, I think I see some ligatures. We could use some website to recognize the font, and thus the chars
yeah this block of text will undoublty pop up again and we can know what those pixels are
I think I used this site at some point, https://www.fontsquirrel.com/matcherator
or maybe it was this one https://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/
Also found this one, seems to need registration and fee https://www.whatfontis.com/
hmm picture too large
for fontsquirrel at least
hm seems like the text is just too small to be recognizable
Yeah it was useless
There should be some contrast trick to recognize the chars by eye 👀
Does anyone know about that?
I might be able to, gimme a few
got this done so im taking a break for tonight
ill put what i have so far in a doc and post it here
it'll be view only
What the heck it seems to be ||ol' Lorem Ipsum||
I SHOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT FROM THE PLEASURE AND PAIN ALL OVER 
hey hold up
I ruined it 😭
I mean. Greg ruined it. But still.
Desire, that they cannot forsee the pain and trouble that are bound to (presumably arise but hard to see) and equal blame belongs to those who fail in ther duty through /n Every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided (indecipherable, potentially that) in certain circumstances and (ind...
we can't pull things from the game file here
Might have not done that
was this from the game files, or was this concept art that was shared?
ohhh ok
but i did get it from the game files as i didnt want to search throug hte documentary for like the 3 seconds it was on screen
sweats in Sahrian
^
shh, don't say that erumi
So you can search "1.10.32" in https://error4hack.com/lorem-ipsum-dolor-sit-amet-meaning/ , and it has a translation for a placeholder text that is used in places sometimes
ok i cant tell how much is pulled from the game files and what's not so please like
dont
yeah i wont sorry babs
it's alright just for future reference
👍
On the other hand, we denounce with Righteous Indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammeled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains.
yeah that prefectly matches lol
all my work brought to naught
There should be something this parallels to in the Book. But can't remember it 😐
😐
Impressive work recognizing the characters though 
yeah they are like 4 pixels a peice lol
So back to topic. Was there a reason for comparing Ron to the spiky guy?
nah he just cute
but guys
so
uh
hows them ||spoilers||
or but actual question that WILL split the fandom
Sandra
or

That's an incomplete question. Unless you mean...personal preference or something
Is there even a question if that's the case?
One helps you become the Reader the Downside calls for, the other...depresses everyone if left with for long? (Or short)
Huh. I meant Ron making everyone lose hope/a stat when you give him a ride.
How spooky is interacting with the orb for the other NWs? I never considered that
||I was thinking that its depressing if you elave her in the downside and she wants to be with you||
||but yeah, she spooks ron out a lot||
There was someone saying that the "The Beyonder Crystal seeks Rukey" happens in-universe as the Orb suddenly glowing and it yelling READER! I SEEK YOUR DOG
Huh. It was you
So she has ||a moment when she's very depressed/given up/can't find the word. But heck, there's that "In their last moments, people show you who they are", that applies to Sandra but I was thinking of Ron here:||
||Business is one rite away from collapsing. I became a merchant of talismans seeking profit, and this is coming to an end.||
||What ever shall I do?||
||I know, give a 3% discount||
||So not even in the ballpark of how good the NWs seek to be.||
But then ||there's him becoming Rukey's (and Bert's?) partner after that, so he's not that bad||
Everyone: ||Ron please give us a discount your buisness will literally be useless and everythign obsolete after this||
Ron: ||Bah, 3% take it or leave it||
I feel like if Ron talked like a human he would be cave johnson from portal
Cave was a maniac with a purpose, Ron gives me easy-going money-focused vibes. So not sure
hmm yeah
I thought you hadn't delved into the latter parts of the campaign 
So you knowing all that is a surprise 
It's summer so I'd suggest you to play Pyre. Underrated indie gem IMO
Whole channel can back me up on this; can't believe I'd say this to you
FeelsStrangeMan
i would, but the sheeer anxiety i get just murders me
||just the thought of losing a character makes me die||
Yes that's intended 
Maybe i shall play while my heart explodes and my rib cgae feels like it implodes
but, since it would be the first time in a long while, and I am a fierce mae man, present your argument for any other name
Once you finish it you'll have an informed opinion on Pyre being the best SGG game, unlike mine 😛
Kae, since Logan gives a powerful K-sound. Makes you spring to attention.
Alternatively, TotalBiscuit picked Bae or Gae for funsies 
hm yes, aj screaming gae is funni
I think this is intended too, as the VN format allows for deeper stories and punchier punches.
Also, if this lasts longer than 4 hours, contact your doctor immediate
yeah
the main problem is my main team consists of ||nomad, demon (very early characters so a lot easier to lose) and the Bertrude (THE FINAL CHARACTER)||
bertrude is so unbelievably powerful...... love that girl
I couldn't last a second in the Rite Club, but managed to finish. On Normal. With few stars. But I count that as a win
hey beating the game is still beating the game
||AND I CANT VENE USE MEME STRATS OF TRIPLE ANYTHING RHKLJGWRGHKVB||
^
Crones are broken on the Rite Club Babs 😛
i'm not surprised crones are ridiculously powerful, esp when you get bertie's talisman
omg but it's so good
AJ: You have been exiled. You shall have to learn to play as a newbie, without fancy chars or strats
the "walls are just a suggestion" talisman?
i prefer ||nomads with their talisman and MASSIVE cast first||
and then her with ||prayer bead yeeting her into the pyre||
or with ||star splinter for the super fast uncatchable throw||
It'd be a sight to see, two top players with triple OP crones. Maybe the difference wouldn't even be reflexes, but ping
my first campaign was weird once i got volfred
the other teams just sit there if you decide to put the sappling in mid of the orb
someday with a better laptop i will put higher difficulty to see if the overpass it
it is so funny to put the sapling on the orb
the other team is just like ???? Something Is Different
they just walk
and then putting everyone next to int and making a massive linked aura
There's potential here for one of those images of people laughing and pointing at peepo on the ground, with Babs pointing and SGG's programmers having done their best on a rather diff project
But it's funny to watch them be puzzled nonetheless. Esp since the NWs have had to adapt to Manley's for some time by then
oh i'm just joking, like im sure doing the ai for this was ridiculous
Might be a reason Hades plays so well, there's more work on ARPG AI, and they had delved into that for Bastion already
Greg: We're switching the genre for the next game
Programmers: 
Greg: We're switching the genre
Programmers: Tell us something new
(I meant on the whole 'read up on other methods, each with its own varied implementation possibilities' that SGG programmers have to go through every cycle)
yeah, i dont envy them
I low key want to do a playthrough where I fail every liberation rite
i think if you do ||at some point Volfred pulls you aside and is like dude what are you doing but in a Volfred way||
That's cool
I want to see it
What happens if you win every other Rite?
For now I'm doing a playthrough where I'm planning more now that I know the game
I think ||you do the revolution but there are fights and people die||
That's what happens if you don't have enough people liberated
I think
Everyone is disaappointed yet amazed at your ability
(makign this up)
There are three tiers of success depending on the number of liberated exiles!
The worst outcome is with 0 or 1 liberated exiles iirc, except if the one liberated exile is Volfred, in which case he's cool enough to count for two
he does give himself the highest percentage of having the plan succeed
which is very funny
he is probably right, though ||seeing as he was the original orchestrator of the movement, and his returning from the downside would be a monumental event for his supporters||
i wouldn't call Volfred arrogant, necessarily. he's the main agent in this and he knows the most of it, as well as having the closest ties to his informants. it makes sense, really.
it's just funny he was bold enough to admit it
there’s a fine line between arrogance and confidence
It's all about the cause and not about himself
Well it's all about the cause, but it is definitely HIS cause
So I just finished the first liberation rite and the game just opened up a bit. Is there any real strategy as far as which order to pursue matches going forward?
If you beat someone in a regular rite, you probably won't see them at that season's liberation
And winning gives you more xp than losing
That's mostly it
Cool, that’s kind of what I figured. Thanks!
Just saying, I am currently obsessed with Vagrant Song
welcome to the club
vagrant song is a bop
My two current Pyre opinions:
Vagrant Song is great.
Hedwyn best boy.
If you want to unlock the entire Book of Rites: try to go against different teams, in different arenas
If you want to follow the tiny storylines: try to go against a triumvirate with the Nightwing that's got some kind of connection to that triumvirate one way or another (eg, Sir Gilman and the Pyrehearts)
If you want to try to influence who's gonna be your opponent during the next liberation rite: as the riddler said, try to play whack a mole with the teams you don't want to face and consult Volfred's planner with the current scores!
Someone has to be at the top, direct and coordinate! ||It used to be THEIRS... not exactly his fault the other half got murdered...||
Thanks, I’ll keep all that in mind.
volfred pulling me aside sounds scary
he takes you aside to give you a stern talking to about your grades
i feel like Volfred's "my kin" title would work for the all of the Reader gender options versus just the neutral one. "my girl/boy" can seem a bit like he views more as a child than a peer (although he probably has at least a hundred years on you anyway) but "my kin" places you as an equal, which makes sense with how he comes to treat you in the game
Agreed... It feels like the best option to me too.
"my boy" is disastrous for me because all I can picture is CD-i Zelda
he
thats what he says when youre not they/them????
im not sure if im amazed or terrified
volfred: my girl
me: your WHAT
yeah! it's very weird
like ive read people not liking Volfred bc of that, bc it becomes kind of like him talking down to you which really affects what his words mean
i can see that
i hope i went with they/them then ajdjrnt
that wouldve been a little weird
and i really like volfred
hey actually what are the titles rukey used for you based on pronoun? i know he uses chum but i forget the others
Still chum for me with she/her
he called me sister when i was she/her
Huh, you're right, I remember sister too, but I could swear I also remember him using chum...
Maybe he uses both?
He does use both when you play as a female.
Right after you confirm your gender choice, he still calls you "chum"
"Can you play us a song to lighten the mood?"
"Sure, I can do that" (plays Vagrant Song)
Vagrant Song is for every mood.
It's a light bop if you're Tariq
||story of a titan's death and a never ending storm|| = a light bop
For Tariq, sure!
My parents live near a beach and own a skiff my dad built, and I like singing when I'm out rowing, to keep time
and I will often sing SGG songs, "Mother I'm Here/Build That Wall" and "Bound Together" and "Good Riddance" are especially good for that
but I can't bring myself to sing "Vagrant Song" while I'm out on the water
it just seems like inviting ill fortune 😰
I don't know if someone ever mentioned this but Ti'zo's name is a little unfortunate to hear because its exact pronunciation in Egyptian Arabic means ||"his butt" (think NSFW word instead)||
......you know, I think he would love that, though. 🤣

I feel bad for ||not noticing that the liberation rite song changes depending on which triumvirate you're facing, until after finishing the game and checking out the soundtrack||
unbelievable amount of effort went into this game
that being said this game deserved a better combat system 😔💯
i like the combat system but i am completely incapable of learning it
I'm bad at it but I found it remarkably well balanced for a game that's only half based on it....
This has always been kinda polarizing. Some people don't like the sportsball, but I thought it was super cool and original
Haven't looked too hard, but you don't really see anything else quite like it
I love sportsball, but i can see why others dont
To the point that I find it surprising.. so PERHAPS Pyre wasn't enough of a smash hit to set a trend, but I find it weird that more people didn't separately come up with "made-up sport with superpowers in a narrative frame"
made up sport with superpowers is all I need but then you attach SGG storytelling and music
i loved sportsball but the mechanics clashed with my brain
the frequent swapping the rest was fine
i would do okay but id be slow and make many mistakes
id still love to beat TN someday but id need at least 2 more playthroughs first
i liked the combat system, and this is coming from a person who previously never played any kind of sports game. just rebind your keys right and you'll be fine
I’m enjoying the rites gameplay so far, but that said, I had to switch to a controller and reconfigure the buttons before everything started clicking.
yeah keyboard is harder to get used to at first as most people aren't used to using the mouse more then the keyboard imo
Playing this again was such a good idea. I now think more methodically and understanding each character better,
And I get the navigation now too,.
Yeah, the mouse is what was throwing me off. I’d think I was jumping into the pyre only to miss cause the cursor was hovering around in the wrong area
mm
I didn't even start to get good at the Rites until 3/4 of the way through my first run
So I enjoyed them a lot more on the second time through!
(Plus getting to know the characters that I'd sent up earlier the first time and unlock more content)
I really liked the changes in dialogue and character interactions based on who you sent up 
i can’t in good conscience throw matches, so i for one welcomed my natural ineptitude at the rites. a mix of wins and losses made the story and the stakes seem more real
i was pretty decent on my old computer (rip) but this new keyboard only set up is killing
Seems like the new comp is a descent 
USB mice are a lifesaver for many reasons, this included
I'm considering going for a fresh run with the intention to loose every rite possible but I have a feeling my heart may break 
Yeah you losing streaks people are stronger than I'll ever be 
I have never been good at the rites the first time I played. I failed miserably lol
The second time around I actually was more calm to try and winning a few rounds do far
It's a challenge for sure tho
Im also learning to appreciate Jodiariel
I didn't the first time
I might try to use jodi mae ti'zo as my main, really curious how close i can get them to be as scary as the ||true nightwings||
usually i send jodi away so quick im sorry-
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me, who hasn't played pyre past the first rite in approx 500 yrs: i should write fanfiction
YOU SHOULD WRITE FANFICTION
I'm currently in full Myst mode for the (virtual) Myst convention weekend but after this I've really been missing Volfred and all the gang... wanna draw all the things...
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im workin on it!! i just...... gotta work on speech patterns rip
and ive had too much caffeine to sit still and play rip
was looking in pyre files and WOW does AJ have a ton of voice lines
would he be considered to be the only fully voiced character of the game?
i guess so, he has the most lines by far
i counted about 6050?
oh i found even more
Makes sense. He's one of, like, two characters that are guaranteed to be with you the whole way through.
Three, even.
How many time does he say "GAAAEEEE"
on my first run I actually got sad that he gets less friendly woth us
I started to play a bit of Pyre today
I didn't start it right away because I was playing LEGO Games like a mature adult
and I don't think I ever would have picked up this game if not for the fact that I've heard it's good from people here
it's really...
weird
but not in a bad way, I like it
and the gameplay is also weird
it reminds me of, well...
soccer..?
but it's still fun regardless
this game has the weirdest things I've ever seen in a game
and yet I love it all
so hats off to you SuperGiant, you have puzzled the hyuck out of me
Super Mario Strikers but with lore 😂
I’m getting high fantasy NBA Jam vibes from Pyre myself, lol
AJ:"Come on lets slam welcome to the jam"
Y'all, stop making the game look like apples or @midnight hawk will have to eat aplenty 
i know darren has called pyre “wizard basketball” before haha
forget if it was in a panel or the noclip doc or something
We all call it wizard basketball
if I ever recommend my friends to play the game and they ask "oh, what's it like?"
I'm gonna say
"basketball, but wizards"
boom 12 new customers
“NBA Jam meets Oregon Trail” was logan cunningham’s description of it (in the noclip doc)
wizard basketball is an unusual enough concept to catch interest, but it made me skeptical since i’m not a fan of sports games
but pyre’s kind of a sports game, but also...not
I can get behind wizard basketball.
Sounds like a sub-genre in dire need of some more games.
the Oregon Trail aspects are very underrated
at one point you actually ||caulk the Wagon to float it across||, it's beautiful 🥰
I cracked up laughing so hard
gonna play some pyre lads let's see if i can win a rite
good luck babs
pyre: Jodariel: consoling Hedwyn about something
me: 👀
truuuuuuuue
i need to replay pyre lol
i played it like nonstop for a couple days and got burnt out fast
😳
i have other games tho
like ender lilies, im doing an ironman of fe7, and like a few horror things i wanna play
pyre is amazing just idk if i have the energy to pick it up again
I love that one of Jodi's off screen actions is braiding her hair, and another is lifting heavy objects
im curious what jodi looked like pre demon 
id imagine she was still pretty muscular
She was a celebrated captain in the army, I assume she was pretty fit, yeah
imgaine seeing jodi pre demon and shes just this 4'11" little lady but everyone in the army has the exact same attittude to her as they do in the game
i imagine height wouldn’t change, and now i’m imagining a 4’11” demon
it might, the demons are super tall in the rights. and then looking at the ending screen, jodi is considerably taller than most of the others
but a 4'11" demon would be hilarious
itty thing with an absolutely massive aura
ti'zo but demon
I know need a drawing of tiny jodi
Haha picturing tiny buff Jodi sure is something!
Demonified Downside ending ae is another mental image for sure...
There you go
https://prnt.sc/1e42ovq
smol
Reminds me of something I did once
Someone noticed that the triumvirate leaders for some teams used scaled-up models… so I found that setting and tweaked it for this
Omfg, that's amazing
the ittiest bittiest demon
the best part would be if these small demons had the same abilities as tall ones, like the shockwave/knockback effect that happens when they jump
Ti'zo just appeared in my playthru... a special boy
You sense a depth of experience in this creature. At least judging by drive-imp standards.
ti'zo is a treat
Jeez, reader pretty judgy in that first line
what a backhanded compliment
reader’s still pretty new to the downside. hasn’t had a lot of experience with imps yet
Maybe one day I can commission some art of my Reader...
It'd be a lovely commission to get!
going thru flagging hands and my team's at -3 hope..... Scribes guide me
it's fine not the worst way to lose hope
good thing i funny use jodi she's at 7 sszxsdfg
but not the most hopeless
Hah. I like how that's a gut punch that doesn't look like a gut punch
great news i won and jodi got to score
Was it against the Pyrehearts? 
withdrawn
Ruff matchup
they're almost as bad as the essence
i'd say chastity is the worst, it makes tempers feel like a joke for me
oh yeah guess who had to fight both essence and withdrawn in lib rites 😢
i wish thinking abt the humor in pyre
can you imagine if pyre wasnt a funny game. it'd be like the most depressing game on the planet.
it’s a human sort of game, a game that shows the extent of people’s adaptability. no humour would make it rather unrealistic
wish thinking
The game is set in a depressing environment, with a depressing plot. But since it focuses on the NWs and their interactions and past and dreams, the game ends up feeling as a story of hope in a dark world (grimbright, was it?)
But yes, the jokes and humor and Gilman's antics and
being cute and the pretty sights* lift the mood a fair bit.
- The Downside, and the game overall, may look worse than we think, as that could be the Reader's synesthesia at work.
There's a moment with no interactions nor cutesy dialog. The ||credits||. So you naturally cry a lot 
I'm playing Pyre again. What a gem of a game. It is so beautiful and touching. Yet, I won't lie, I HATE playing Ti'Zo !
do what i do: don’t use his cast, just use him for his flight ability
it’s even better ||when you get his talisman||
No one dies in pyre unless you make biiig mistake, so it's a lot cheerier than every other SGG game
Even then, the story it tells is a downer. I was a frail farmer (?) that got booted from the place I grew in. Which has been a place of unrest and illiteracy from some time.
5 mins in and it's a depressing setting already, but not a depressing story
see i wouldnt call it a depressing story. if pyre was dark and colorless and devoid of humor, if call it a depressing story. but you stay in this beautiful bright world and are immediately greeted with hedwyn, who goes out of his way to care for you and save you. id call it serious rather than depressing
My first pick of descriptor for Pyre is "solemn" 
Ti'Zo is one of my favorites
I hate Jodariel because goddamnit she can't move
also she has like no stamina
What does the withdrawn do in the lib rites?
The one i hated the most was the one that sets up the banishment respawn to ultra long
I think their power is that whenever someone gets banished, it leaves a puddle of goop on the ground that’ll slow you down
Like the Howlers do in the Stowawae’s trial
This is a bit funny considering your latest Pyre fic
. Maybe not funny. Ironic?
It's a story of hope, or with hope, in a dark world. I think this contrast is what makes the game's end and the lib rite moments so strong (especially lib against the Fate, NWs lose)
I didn't even get that particular outcome ||but reading about it broke me||
my next fanfic was a lot happier i promise
there's definitely that, the bright colors and the kindness only work with the background of despair
Bastion is another story of hope with a background of despair, don't know about Transistor, and Hades is...not really something in the same mold. A story of hope and abuse, but doesn't have the same...let's say...imposing (?) background
These can work on their own, but won't be as strong. Reminds me a bit of Samwise's climactic monologue about...people making the world a better place (see second-last quote on https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Two_Towers#Others )
Speaking of Almer, is there special dialog for using the talisman they give you during a rite against them?
with jodi
you have to hopscotch
don't think so, i carried his talisman for a while and never heard anything about it from the fate
you could totally parallel Sam's monologue with the Reader's speech
Eh I just go for haha tag team 20+ speed characters
Imagine killing stuff
all you speedy folks can't stop to banish all your adversaries smell the roses
Grasshopper of doom, gooooooo~ 💕
boom boom boom splattt
bless the scribes for the ability of custom Rites
i might train up enough to best TN this way
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Misread this as “it’s a story of hope […] in a dank world” and just agreed without thinking about it
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wait it's Pyre's birthday?
or am I late
I hope I'm not late
🥳 happy birthday to that weird basketball game! 🥳
nope! still the birthday of this lovely game
Four years of Religious Wizard Basketball
we all love wizard basketball 
"was there" LMAO
I mean, he was
he stayed true to the end 😔✊
these are amazing
Awesome
Heh. He's so loveable
FANTASTIC choice for leader of the new Nightwings thank you very much
What is this emote 
Is volfred just thinkin about Gay
like same but I thought it was kinda random lol
it's based off of :gaythink: i think
Ooo i didn't know about this, ty!
Hedwyn was my favourite character right away and remained the fave until the very end
contested only mildly by Volfred and Oralech later on
I freed him first. I used him way too much and was a severe blow to my build to lose him, but the man deserved it.
Ye, he's also the only one who has someone specific waiting for him up there.
this is Mama Greentail erasure and I shan't stand for it 😝
Any resources for general tactics for the rites?
An entire server for multiplayer and exploring various tactics! I don't know if anyone's ever written down the basics though 
Hmm m not looking for multiplayer or another community, though.
Throw the orb at the enemy triumvirate and then banish them. Grab the orb. izi
jk i kind of suck at this game
but thats a viable tactic you can use
Zoom+plunge is the most popular new player tactic I think, but throwing the orb into the pyre is worth learning to do
2v3 is a setback for sure, especially if you tend to rely on a Speedy Boi or Pam
i didnt ask to be called out this hard
also throwing instead of plunging is easier on your triumvirates lorewise
I mean, it's still the same game, campaign or multiplayer. I think they've also been refining strategies and overall fancy play that go far beyond the difficulty requirements of the campaign but it's still the same game - which abilities and talismans function best, basic play styles for the various classes etc. Who are you using?
Oh my gosh, I took the car in for a safety check this morning and the mechanic reminded me so much of Jodariel
A large and mighty blonde woman of frowning mien and powerful muscles, who was very gentle with my two year old and let him help pull the lever to lower a car on a hydraulic jack, then solemnly fist-bumped him
Thank you for your assistance ma'am 😍
I just do VS mode against the CPU (random teams), and my team is Sandra, Ti'zo, and one of the Nightwings depending on my mood at the time. Difficulty 3 has been pretty free wins for the most part, 4 I often feel like I don't really know what m doing and it's just tied for a long time with no one doing damage to the other's Pyre but I end up winning a small lead. The one time I did 5, I lost in like 30 seconds and did no damage to their Pyre lol.
I turn talismans on/off and do Mastery anything from 1-4.
ive never thrown the orb in my life
You can, and most people would recommend it (it means your exile won't be banished for the next round). But it's a way to make your own difficulty. Which is clearly what Babs was going for 
Banishing the rival triumvirate then zooming was enough for me to finish the game (on normal).
Passing the orb helps a lot too, but I never figured it out 
Pyre's true charm is not in its gameplay IMO, so playing it with your heart rather than your brain is...actually a good idea in my book. It's the journey that gives Pyre its beauty
just started my first Rite at Khaylmer...did I get tricked into playing soccer this whole time?
By the Scribes…
ok so this is some BS that I keep seeing the AI do. They'll fling the orb into the pyre, and seemingly while it's in the air they'll plunge into it...Like the orb hasn't even hit the ground.
what's that about? some mechanic I don't understand?
yeah... Im doing my second playthrough on ||true nightwing difficulty and it is so frustrating I lowkey don't wanna continue 🤣🥴||
also why is he called Khaylmer Rope-Caller? What is the meaning of rope-caller
ok I just played through the second liberation rite to the end, that's enough pyre
is there a different ending song verse for every possible fate of each character?
because if so, holy crap
i was streaming Pyre on a friends server and not expecting peoole to watch and suddenly someone goes "DID THE DOG JUST ASK IF YOU CAN READ"
there is!
i wonder if the pyre feels like normal fire. And for how long
like shucks i dont wanna incinerate hedwyn every time i score a goal
no one ever complains
I mean, they complain a little? But about stuff like nausea and disorientation
I feel like "horrible burning pain" world be included in that list if it was a thing, which gives me some peace of mind there 🤣
FEAR NOT THE PURIFYING FLAME
can you imagine how it was figuring out what happens to you when you plunge into the pyre, though
"i dont know about this milithe"
"lol no worries gol just yeet yourself into the fire youll be fiiine"
Tangent but I love the event where Hedwyn gets seasick and Tariq trolls Jodi that something awful has happened to him
And then right when she's on the verge of a heart attack he pops up like "hello all, feeling much better, who wants dinner?" 😀
Unless it actually hurts 👀
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Don't they say something.. somewhere.. about the raiments protecting the participants from the flames?
Raiments - flameproof masks and orbs fashioned for the rites. - per the Book of Rites
Hearing some of the ost again and forgot how awesome is sky dance 
if the raiments are flameproof then how do the triumvirates dissappear?
if they dont get like
consumed by the flames
what happens to their body
they get ~banished~
magic
broke: banishment sickness
woke: wizard basketball hangover
it seems like they go somewhere, especially since they have to find their way back by the light of their own pyre
Hope seems to influence how long it takes for them to find their way
No wonder why rite sickness is a thing, being constantly disoriented and dizzy sounds awful
replaying pyre recently, oh the feels are mighty but they are nothing compared to reuniting with the nightwings c:
shambles in late throwing the orb just stresses me out, you're too vulnerable for too long when you're throwing it
just leap into the pyre
So I want to make a dnd character off of one of the pyre characters. What yall think is best?
this isn't super helpful bc its another system but im running a pathfinder 2e campaign in the downside so lmk if you wanna know specifics about that
Well still just what character would be fun to role play as
oh you wanna legit be one of them in dnd
uhhh, thats tough honestly
pick one you have a good grasp of?
human characters may be easiest to translate (goliath Jodi, though...)
Rhae as a cleric, perhaps
Or Jodi as a straight fighter
Damn Jodi has always been my fav but I has reservation playing Jodi being a dude...
it’s ok to stick to what you’re comfortable with. are you limiting yourself to the Nightwings, or are you thinking of any pyre character?
and how accurate would you want to be regarding race class and personality?
Naw, but its been a minute so I don't remember everyone
I'm not set on race or class
I was going to do my best reading the story and play with it
i don’t really have a lot of dnd experience myself, to be honest. i’d advise to reaquaint yourself with pyre’s story and characters and just choose the one you vibe with the most
then the details would work themselves out
That's why I asked. Im down with all characters, just wad thinking maybe someone would havr a favorite character. Maybe I'll do Jodi's sorry and make her more masculine
I mean more than she is hahaha
i don’t think that would be hard. a hardened soldier with a soft spot for children and a fierce desire to protect those she cares about could work as a character of any gender
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watchin the vods... thats a level of play i didn't realise existed
hey all, i've tried googling for a bit but without much success; basically, pyre keeps crashing to the desktop every so often, making it virtually unplayable
i don't have a dedicated graphic card (using an uhd 750 right now)
could it be the reason?
sorry if this is the wrong #channel
the crashing stopped. so weird, well hopefully it wont come back lol
Fingers crossed!
Hello ! I am a big fan of Pyre music and would love to buy this merch (https://store.supergiantgames.com/products/pyre-original-soundtrack-vinyl). It's still in the store so I imagine it will be available again one day but do you know when it will be and especially in Europe ?
Thanks for your replies !
most of the devs dont respond through these channels, you have a much larger chance of getting a response from their support / contact page: https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/
Supergiant Games is an independent game developer in San Francisco, California. We created the games Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre.
It's a "turn up to In the Flame" kinda night
Thanks, I will try this way
It's also on Black Screen Records and is seems to come back in stock irregularly. I've not been able to get it, having missed the drop yesterday, but that might be your best bet
I was today years old when I realized that Knights of the Sea is very good. It could be the main theme of a tech-fantasy indie game
And yet it's "another one on the pile" in Pyre. Mad stuff 
Knights of the Sea is up there among Best Trimvirate Themes. it’s one of my motivation songs
knights of the sea is an absolute bop
It's funny how this is Deluge's theme. Do I need to be a coward or troubled medic to get a theme song this good? 
I hope Tariq made it for the Pyrehearts long before Deluge came around
Knights of the Sea, plural, good for wyrms in general but really not that one...
OTOH Grand Ceremony is very much Manley in particular and feels nothing like the Chastity's founding principles...
Knights of the Sea always felt more like Gilman's theme than the Deluge's
Yeah, Knights of the Sea is more Wyrm Culture(tm) than Deluge specifically imho
Which is funnier, the Pyrehearts being basically named "the Pirates" in English, or their Sahrian name translating to the Fire Fires
fire fires
Concept, Celestariq occasionally rewrite the triumvirates' themes based on how their attitudes evolve, and the Chastity were the most recent. Tariq saw Manley once and went "okay I have to rewrite this whole thing"
new triumvirate name: the Pretentious Glassbowls 🙃
hand me the harpsichord, Celeste, I am inspired
It's Moon Moon all over again
the Moon Moon of triumvirates, RIP
Truly
This makes sense considering the song's vibe. That said, what happened to
this?
Ah, you mentioned it's a theory but seems to be unconfirmed 
I think this makes sense
. Esp considering Dread Design, which feels very Udmildhe but not that much like Milithe
(Might be wrong on the Milithe part, so someone plz confirm)
Milithe might fit that theme, it might just be very bog-crone-ish. it's a stretch, but even Bertrude might be able to fit the theme
Grand Ceremony has Manley's arrogance written all over it, in my opinion: doesn't seem like the original Chastity's theme
Path to Glory has always stumped me with what it's meant to represent
All three crones are dangerous in their own way, but I feel like Milithe and Bertrude are "I'll be dangerous for science!" whereas Udmildhe would curse you just for crossing her path.
And Dread Design feels like walking through a dangerous part of town, so it might be me but it feels much more like Udmildhe than the other two
Darren made a happy sportsy song for the first rite, then Greg backtracked and had the Accusers be the first opponent?
Can't explain it otherwise
it's not really happy either: it has sort of a "the stars are watching you" feel to me
Yeah, I don't think it's functionally Lendel's theme any more than Knights of the Sea is Deluge's
It's just an amusing thing that both of these sad sacks happened to get such jams for "their" themes 😅
I get a sense of breathless excitement from Path to Glory - the chips are down and it's your first real Rite with real stakes 🌟
Glorious Tradition always felt like a bit of both
first part definitely almer, the second more hopeful for Jomuer
It's subjective territory here, but I feel like Glorious Tradition is the "energetic variant" of A Step Closer. A bit like the allegro and moderate versions of Phoenix Wright songs 
still defending Deluge: in his position, i doubt i'd do things differently, and i freely admit it
would suck being quiet/introverted, & wanting a quiet life, only for your entire society to force you into the role of Battle Hero instead
he and Lendel aren't the same
but i think you're right: Path to Glory is more like the Theme of the First Rite than anything else
there are similarities, and i think they have similar tempos & rhythms. interesting theory, to be sure
Deluge defense squad rise up 😅
Also a bit like Phoenix Wright songs, period, doesn't it! Fitting for Manley who's am Ace Attorney witness through and through..
Regarding Deluge, this explains his deep feel of betrayal by Gilman: what Deluge dreamed of his whole life Gilman did in a few seconds
Is Manley an AA witness though? The witnesses are forgetful, unclear or get lost in Edgeworth's eyes, whereas Manley is devious and scheming
Yeah, I don't fault Deluge at all for fleeing in battle or being squashed into an ill-fitting and traumatic warrior role, that's all legit
But I do fault him for being consistently horrid to Gilman, who has never been anything but kind and encouraging to him.
There was no need to take his distress out on an underling like that, and yet the scolding and screaming is incessant. Do better, Deluge.
do better for lady seagrass and ur kids
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Okay, so lore question brought on by watching Rite Nite
The Nightwings have to be an opponent at the Liberation Rites? Like, if two other triumvirates wanted to face off against each other there it wouldn't work?
i think so
yeah that's the lore. the nightwings are the opponent that all other triumverates must test themselves against
So, then, what happened when the Nightwings went defunct? Nobody got out?
Yep! When the Nightwings disappeared, nobody went free until they came back 
For 5-6 years...
Lendel mentions this upon meeting him, says something like
Ah, so the rumors were true. You've finally returned, Nightwings. Let us finally
fiterite.

"Do you even lift, bro?" is something that other leaders could unironically say to each other 
- Ah, yes, so I used to have the finest food in the Commonwealth
- That's neat Manley, but do you even lift (people at Soliam's Fall)?
- No, wretched Nightwings disappeared years ago
- Ah, that's true
I feel like that has potential for funny dialog but it won't be me who finds it 
He is more of a criminal. Considering the nose, he might be compared with ||Luke Atmey. Also in terms of self-indulgence and arrogance combined with clever plotting||.
Anyhoo, I have an interesting question, to all people who possess intimate Pyre knowledge. One of my friends plans on running a one-shot (with high hopes for a campaign) on Pyre and wants to have maps. I have measured the Book of Rites map some time ago (somewhat accurately), but I was wondering if there was another way to know the layout of the game fields.
That might be in the game files somewhere. You could ask in the other servers 
I don't think there's that big of a variability. The strangest example would be that field that gets smaller as the rite goes on
This makes so much sense. ||The smugness is right there. Hand gestures too. ||Nice find 
Might want to spoilermark those T&T spoilers though 
The less knowledgeable people might jump to more recent ||Florent L'Belle, but he is more of a fop than a planner, and his plans are too much over the top. Although I used the same voice for Manley as the one I used for L'Belle when playing Dual Destinies, because it fits much better with the vocalisations.||
Only played through T&T case 2, so I saw a weird name and stopped reading 
But maybe someone else can tag in
It comes in Dual Destinies case 2.
Now that we have an influx of (PS4) players, we could change our names and pfps to Pyre stuff, hoping to get people to play this masterpiece (of the lot)
Then again I might be delusional 
I'd probably consider that if I could change my pfp for specific servers
Ah, fair point. We could still try some funny things with the nicknames like the mods did for April Fools'
Failer must be having a giggle reading this 
I haven't played enough Pyre to make a pun out of Go Kart Man
:(
go khaylmer man
I think it's Khalymer, Babs 
But man. Coming up with the pun names is not easy at all. Coming up with something that time musta been between funny and frustrating
thank u for the correction i actually thought it originally was spelled khalmer
Nope. My own voice and a wiki preview showed Khalymer. Then opening the wiki shows it's Khaylmer
gets exiled 
Hold on. Can't read, so I shouldn't get exiled 👉 🧠
im glad to help :3
Let's see if this works
hell yes
speaking of Volfred
I’ve got the perfect nickname for this haha
You can make the case for using eyeliner in sports I think. There's all that "athletes with dark eyes perform better in sunny places"
Volfred has green eyes, so...new headcanon? Volfred kept using eyeliner since || he hadn't given up fully on taking part in the rites||
Don't think anyone's going to have a smoother switch than this 
I'm ambivalent about my "About me". I had it since before Hedwyn, but it's a bit of a spoiler
Then again, by the time someone gets it for the first time it's not a spoiler anymore 
Pyre fans represent 💕
I swear it's turning into the FFIX of Supergiant Games
"That one that hardly anybody tries in the first place because they think it looks weird/silly, but most people who actually give it a decent try end up as ride-or-die fans" 🤣
Relatable 
Good comparison... 🤔
I want to play again but at the same time the first time doing the ending was so perfect
Help 
Same here
i tend to wait until the memory of the story gets a bit foggy, but that doesn’t completely work for pyre because of how unforgettable it is
Personally, I think Pyre is definitely best experienced by playing it at least twice. 💕
That way you can try out story branches you didn't pursue the first time through, and have a chance to get to know any characters you sent up early in your first run, if you want.
i would just like to say i keep reading hedwyns hedband as hedwyns husband
i think my own wishes are kinda seeping through from my subconscious
I kept my profile pic Pyre-related specifically because of this server.
Despite me not being here much anymore.
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You can always play on TN or in meanie mode to spice up playthrough 
When my laptop doesnt goes into 10 fps i will try 
Another way to play Pyre is to convince someone else to play it and then watch them experience all the twists and reveals 
New player: gets to the credits
SomeNoobDying: hands some tissues
Another way to play pyre is to get anxiety and crippling analysis paralysis by simply talking to the cool dude riding on his dad selling some jewellery
Reminds me when ron asked me to help him only to be thrown a -2 hope (or was it worse? I dont remember)

i think its -5 
deep fry ron is the perfect emote to ever exist
Or saving money for the longest time for a talisman that looks like the best bang-for-the-buck, then not use it once you have it :deepfron
Is it wrong to think that we need deepfron on the server? Looks extra-ronny if that makes sense
it looks more ronny then normal ron
🦅 Ron v. 🍋 Ron

