pyre

[faint hare]

im very excited

[timid silo]

Awesome! Do share any impressions!

[faint hare]

is there local multiplayer lol

since thatd be sick if i can play fantasy basket ball with friends

also is the game massive or is my computer bad .-.

[midnight hawk]

there is a local multiplayer

im actually about to sit down and replay pyre so hell yeaqh

[faint hare]

oooo nice :3. im going over to a neighbors house tomorrow so now i have something to play with someone lol

[faint hare]

pog 😎

:0 I CAN GIVE MYSELF THE ALL THE GAMES ROLE NOW

hehe i have ascended to gold name

[midnight hawk]

welcome to gold name

[spiral zealot]

their is local multiplayer, and every week there are organized games over steam remote play (its always promoted, its the rite nite channel)

[faint hare]

oooo that sounds fun :3

cant wait to dump like at least 100 hours into this

[spiral zealot]

lol trueee, i still havent finished the campaign, but probably have at least 20 hours in game of playing just from steam remote play multiplayer

[faint hare]

its at 88% >_>

[spiral zealot]

OOooooo

[faint hare]

im not gonna play it today i dont think ;-;

but ill have it for when i need it >:3

[spiral zealot]

when the stars align, the pyres shall be lit and prepared

[faint hare]

lol i already listen to in the flame and never to return

and now ill have c o n t e x t

[spiral zealot]

c o n t e x t and g o a t m o m

[midnight hawk]

so is there a list of places in the Downside online or am i just gonna have to write all of them down?

[faint hare]

i see goat mom and my mind instantly jumps to undertale .-.

[spiral zealot]

https://pyre.fandom.com/wiki/Locations

not very good but has a lot of places listed

[midnight hawk]

thank u!

[spiral zealot]

generally the fandom wiki isn't good, but it also isnt bad

[midnight hawk]

yeah that's what ive heard

[spiral zealot]

i did overhaul the classes a while ago so they are accurate, as well as the items page, but everything else is wild lands

[midnight hawk]

thank you for your work!

[spiral zealot]

it was mostly for myself to make modding easier lol but thanks

[midnight hawk]

i really love that pyre is just like... "drive imps power the blackwagon. how does it work? don't worry about it"

[prime dirge]

Maybe they 'row' with their wings like you would do on a boat?

Hadn't thought about this 😦

[spiral zealot]

they have the thickest legs in the downside, easily

explosive thigh power

(im sorry thats the worst pun ive ever made ill see myself out)

[midnight hawk]

the game calls it a centrifuge... maybe something spins them around really fast

[prime dirge]

I'm not saying that's necessarily true, but I recently noticed that Jodi ||appears to be walking on stilts. For real||

[midnight hawk]

gotta be extra tall

[prime dirge]

||Skipped leg day for 16 years it seems. So maybe the imps have their own surprises too||

||https://i.imgur.com/0Feecte.png||

[spiral zealot]

||stilt legs is right||

[midnight hawk]

||the kid is also buff with chicken legs, they can be buddies||

but omg this computer is terrible for pyre, my trackpad is terrible and so are my arrow keys

im just gonna have to remap everything hhhhh

[prime dirge]

||They look almost regular to me But the bracer thing on his left arm does make them seem off||

I think there's a WASD preset?

You could go full-keyboard, but you'd be unable to throw

[midnight hawk]

i never throw lmao. i might go full keyboard... hhhhh i miss my old computer it was perfect 😭

[prime dirge]

Why...would you not throw? That's basically a Titan Star

[midnight hawk]

idk i just never got into it

[trail talon]

neither did i! but i also played on keyboard and trackpad. which i’m used to, but i often don’t use certain moves regularly

[prime dirge]

USB mices are cheap, at least

Throwing is easy to remember when the other triumvirate is banished. So maybe Babs is of the zoomier type rather than the banisher

[trail talon]

i game in my room, on my bed because i don’t have a desk. so - no mice. honestly, you can just get by by outmaneuvering the opposing triumvirate

[midnight hawk]

i do like to zoom

which is why i play ae so much

but i Hate using mice i got one but i never played w one for years so it just feels unnatural

[prime dirge]

I am impressed

I was considering using a trackball for the challenge, but you two are way above me

[midnight hawk]

keyboard+trackpad gang rise up

[prime dirge]

Babs throws the orb instead of rising up
Wrong key Babs

[trail talon]

you talking about the hands i put there?

can imagine aj yeeting the orb now

[prime dirge]

I meant Babs is rebinding everything, so instead of rising up funny things can happen

[trail talon]

might have used throw more if i’d rebinded it, actually. never thought about it while i was playing

[jovial sparrow]

I always completely forget about throwing until I see oralech use it. I then proceed to use it once and then promptly forget about it again.

Which is the same thing that happens with saluting

[trail talon]

yeah he especially has the throw the orb at you then banish you method on lock

has anyone ever used salute?

[jovial sparrow]

I think everyone uses it once and then realizes why no one uses it

I'm sure there's some madman out there who beat pyre on nightwing difficulty while only saluting

[scenic kiln]

don't give me any more ideas, I'm already doing a nightwing + all titan stars run and losing horribly

[jovial sparrow]

Oh my. I can barely beat the game on heightened without titan stars

[prime dirge]

Saluting is introduced too late, and I never took the perks for that since I knew I'd never remember
Peeps at the Rite Nite do use it to finish a game and such

[scenic kiln]

I haven't had time to play for a few months, but pretty sure I was 1:6 win:lose?

[midnight hawk]

ive never done saluting, it just didn't seem beneficial enough

and then i have to press enough keys as is

[spiral zealot]

saluting is basically only good on harps (except for the jankiest of jank setups only possible in multiplayer with mods)

[prime dirge]

Bogs have that imp trick too

[jovial sparrow]

what is the design purpose for salutes though?

[spiral zealot]

they are flair and can be used to trigger certain skills

like the demon salute providing a temporary +10 glory

(the mastery allows for this to happen)

[jovial sparrow]

but I mean what do they add to the gameplay that required new skills and button when they could've just not been included

[spiral zealot]

more masteries and style points??

[prime dirge]

It allows the player to do something referenced in the dialog, and also there's the abilities that happen after saluting

[jovial sparrow]

I guess

[spiral zealot]

plus its super fun saluting on friends when playing with them after triple banishing their entire team with a 360 power cast

[jovial sparrow]

I'm just kind of confused about salutes because everything else is so well created and integrated but then there's just salutes which no one really uses that much. That makes sense though.

[spiral zealot]

harp salute is actually really good if you play it well, as you can just teleport a demon to the enemy pyre

[jovial sparrow]

woah

[spiral zealot]

plus crones is basically a free score

and there is a interesting strategy where you
a) Savage with their mastery for salutes and quick flinging throws a ball
b) Savage salutes and teleports to ball
c) press run immediately after pressing salute so you dont get end lag
d) profit
allows you to quickly teleport across the map as long as you keep throwing. found by @trim prawn and its been named the ninja savage

[prime dirge]

Doesn't saluting take like one second?

[spiral zealot]

if you run immediatly after pressing the button it kinda cancels it

example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEJNmy_QJcY

[prime dirge]

That...reminds me of the Lashings in Stormlight

Mad stuff. I'd have stood no chance

[jovial sparrow]

woah

[spiral zealot]

yeah Ninja Savage is janky

[spiral zealot]

the worst jank ive ever layed my eyes upon is this

1. Crone 1 has Frozen Soul, hex of victory, & taunt mastery
2. Crone 2 has any talisman, hex of victory, & taunt mastery
3. Crone 3 (requires mods) has any talisman, hex of victory, & taunt mastery

its literally an instant win

[prime dirge]

I suppose that's a banned build, then. Are there many like this?

[spiral zealot]

thats really it, and yeah its generally frowned upon and was banned in the last tourney

no other combos i know like that

you could do it again with crones if you do the same thing but score with crone 2 which has curs fang but no other class has an ability to just completely shut down the enemy team like the crones

[prime dirge]

Uh huh. So triple crone can take the fun away. I suppose double crone is dangerously close to that

[spiral zealot]

yeah, with 1 on frozen soul and 1 on cur fang you can get the opponent down to 22, one crone score away

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite starts in half an hour! Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[unborn copper]

^Live now!

[supple solar]

i played through the whole game not knowing how to salute

i still don't

please help me

also how do crones do that

i never learned how to play them since i never really planned to liberate bertrude

[trail talon]

“t” to salute on keyboard

[midnight hawk]

crones are so fun

especially when you get the talisman where your cast goes thru objects

[spiral zealot]

"y" to salute on xbox 360

[spiral zealot]

i love plunging crones

[untold quartz]

I love the dreadful implications of something called an "imp centrifuge"

I remember a discussion of what it actually was, in like 2018?, where it was generally agreed that the least disturbing mental image was one of those Conan the Barbarian wheels being pushed by lots of strong little critters

but that the name conjured a first guess of some sort of horrible contraption akin to a tumble dryer full of hamsters, set to high 😰

[faint hare]

i think its time for me to finally play pyre >:3

cant wait to suck at basketball and read and cry all at the same time

itll be great

jodariel's voice lowkey terrifies me o-o

[west pollen]

I am once again popping in to cry about having every supergiant game except this one on switch when this one would probably be the most perfect for switch

That is all

[trail talon]

i love her voice. honestly i've always wanted to have a deeper voice myself, but it was not to be, i think

[spiral zealot]

agreed

[faint hare]

man having to name the girl was just stressful =w=

i went with fae

[spiral zealot]

mae gang

[west pollen]

Ya I always go with Mae since then she’s Mae the Moon-Touched, which iirc they call her moon-touched anyway

[deft quail]

The best name

[spiral zealot]

Fae the Fair, i can kinda see it, but also mae

[prime dirge]

Nyx's and Meg's voices are also deep, but they don't feel intimidating. Whereas Alecto's higher voice feels more hostile because of her demeanor.
I think that Jodi's standoffish traits and tone, and also her intimidating appearance are necessary to complete the scary voice perception

[prime dirge]

Mid-game spoilers:
||Some of the Vinci designs in Rise of Legends had helices and blimp-like tanks. With the centrifugewheel and some magic it should be enough ||

||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/riseoflegends/images/7/79/Pirata_Flyer.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/699?cb=20150814140050||

[faint hare]

ok so i finished the 3rd rite

and i am very much loving the game :3

after playing va11 halla i gained a new appreciation for vn's and pyre is just great

[amber pawn]

I just started Pyre today and the stakes in the game make the rites so exciting

[trail talon]

not many people went with Rhae first, i guess? i kind of just listened to my instincts. and Rhae sounds nice, especially with aj's rolled R

[trail talon]

her voice never really scared me, but maybe that's because i sensed my own standoffishness in her. i've been told on occasion that that's how i come across: aloof and intimidating, but i'm just not terribly social. that was a while in the past, however. not sure if i'd still come across that way in public

we're both Not Social, so i've always felt a huge soft spot for Jodi

Alecto's downright aggressive by comparison, and Meg can sound intimidating in a cold way when you're standing against her

[prime dirge]

After the pandemic we'll all have to re-learn to behave outdoors again. So maybe people see Kae in you rather than Jodi

[kind plank]

I am team rolled /r/.

I liked Jodi, but I’m so bad at using demons in the Rites ||I sent her back first.||

[prime dirge]

Alecto is openly hostile, whereas Meg stands against you by duty, not by hate. But both are strong in their own way

I liked Jodi. Great defender 😦
That said, her ||backstory should be reason enough to yeet her ASAP||

[kind plank]

||Yeah, she’d been down way too long.||

[prime dirge]

||We've newcomers, Rhae||

Two people are playing for the first time, and there's Babs too

invests in paper tissues

[trail talon]

We must paint the channel black with spoiler tags

yeah, jodi’s always been one of the first ones up for me

[kind plank]

I’m better with the speedy players. I wanted to hang on to ||Rukey|| but I had to let him go.

||Sir Gilman|| was tough to say goodbye to too.

[trail talon]

slow and steady is my jam, so i’ve used jodi a lot ||and really missed her after she was liberated||

[prime dirge]

Scoring with Jodi is rare but her defense prowess is something else. You could run two fast bois and her in the center 🏃

[kind plank]

She does tend to bulldoze the field 😆

[trail talon]

hoestly, the times i’ve sped over to the pyre and either (a) thought i’d been banished or (b) thought i’d already plunged into the pyre all add up to paint a picture of a player not proficient in speediness (it’s me, i’m the player)

[kind plank]

Leveled up ||Betrude|| can be really broken when ||her aura goes through objects and bounces||.

[trail talon]

a second later, of course, i actually get banished and lose my advantage

bertrude is solid on all counts

she has both speed and presence

[kind plank]

Yeah… I had the “yes, I scored no I didn’t crap they’re banished” sequence more than once.

I think my best set up was Betrude, Gilman, and Rhae.

[trail talon]

pam and tizo, regardless of who’s third (maybe rhae for her jumping power): flying is a crutch i can’t give up

[kind plank]

YES! The flyers are great.

I just get mixed up on the controls since they are slightly different for each character.

Ti’zo is wonderful for clearing a field when the AI bunches up.

[midnight hawk]

i was always terrible with ti'zo, but i was pretty good at pam

[kind plank]

You need a plan with Ti’zo. You can’t just run out and hope since his tiny legs don’t go that fast.

But he does fun things with the in Rite dialogues.

[midnight hawk]

i would just forget his special was to hecking explode and then use like i was casting and aiming

[kind plank]

And then he gets stuck where you hit the button.

I would have appreciated a way to cancel a cast before you let it go.

[midnight hawk]

that'd be so nice

[kind plank]

I want to do another play through with my five year old making the choices. He’s too young to play the Rites, but I think he’d enjoy the story.

I’m curious to see what choices he would make.

[deft quail]

You can cancel casting an aura

[kind plank]

How?

[deft quail]

Sprint

[kind plank]

Welp.

The more you know.

[deft quail]

Ive been playing multiplayer for a little over 2 months. Learned so much and improved greatly.

Ill charge up tizo’s aura as area control and then zip out of it

[kind plank]

takes notes for next play through

[trail talon]

never used tizo’s aura cast. could never figure out the timing

[deft quail]

Heres a cool clip I got yesterday:

https://clips.twitch.tv/WanderingShinyTurtlePeoplesChamp-hTWCGvobPk86yjgC

(Gameplay spoilers for the newer players)

[prime dirge]

Boomsplosion-related: || 's cast must feel very painful and...well, you get the idea. That's yet another not-pet-like trait he has ||

[trail talon]

||tizo: y’all mind if i just...
e x p l o d e||

[prime dirge]

||Yes I mind that's a horror story||

|| : What is my purpose?
Pro players: You go boom
: Oh god||

[kind plank]

Also fly over things and be adorable.

If you use Ti’zo ||in the final lib rite|| there’s some special dialogue.

[prime dirge]

||I did! Felt like a gut punch! 10/10 would rite again||

[kind plank]

Our little fuzzy flying jelly bean has some history.

[trail talon]

||even more of a gut punch if you use tizo in the first encounter with the true nightwings and in the final lib rite. the emotions i felt that day..||

[kind plank]

I can’t remember if I did both. Ti’zo is one character ||I have no worries about leaving in the Downside|| so he was moral support a lot.

Is there a scenario where ||Oralech and Ti’zo reconcile||?

[trail talon]

||not within the storyline of the game. they never truly disllike each other, of course: it’s just that each one feels like the other is on the wrong side.||

[kind plank]

||I feel the need to write fan fic now… Ti’zo keeping Oralech company in the Downside. Or Oralech showing Ti’zo all the wonders of the Upside.||

[trail talon]

||it’s been a while...if i remember correctly, oralech tries to convince ti’zo to join him, and that we the new nightwings can’t be trusted, ti’zo has an outburst (something like “just stop talking”), then softens and tries to convince oralech that he doesn’t have to stand against the new nightwings, but can join them instead||

i could be getting the details wrong: i only remember ||the outburst, because the conflicting emotions were there and it cut deep||

[prime dirge]

||This would happen more easily with Fred on the same side as the other two||

[kind plank]

||Happy cabin ever after 😁||

||All SSG must end with a bittersweet reconnection!||

[untold quartz]

@kind plank yeah for playing with five year olds 💕

Mine was four when I debuted my Jodi cosplay and I was worried he'd be scared of me in full makeup and horns and costume with padding and platform hoof boots

but he loved it? he immediately dubbed it Monster Mama and followed me around the convention like a pleased little duckling

[prime dirge]

||Jodi does well with her (foster) children.|| It's canon but also law

[faint hare]

whats the consensus for kbm vs controller??

[spiral zealot]

yes

[faint hare]

since i started with controller having played every other sgg game with controller

[spiral zealot]

kbm is generally more accurate

[faint hare]

so just the general argument lol, kbm is accurate but controller is comfy

[spiral zealot]

but I play controller and hold up equally as well against keyboard players

so its just preference

[faint hare]

ight

[spiral zealot]

it is harder to swap with controllers as kbm you can just click on the exile you want to swap to, but thats really the major difference

[faint hare]

kk :3

once i get farther and better at the game i might participate in the little tournaments yall have :3

[spiral zealot]

we'd be happy to have a new player

[young folio]

i play pretty much every game with kbm, pyre was no exception

[faint hare]

well imma play some more pyre :3, last time i got to my 3rd rite iirc for story so ye

[spiral zealot]

i cant play hades with kbm, feel like ill break my space bar lol

[faint hare]

omg sandra is so pretty and just looks so smug

god i love the characters designs ;-;

[spiral zealot]

best orb girl

[faint hare]

oh also when you lose a rite is it like "try again" or is it just deadass "you lost lets continue the story with that"

[scenic kiln]

the latter, though iirc you can restart a rite before it finishes if you want to

it's fully possible to lose every rite and finish the game

[faint hare]

ahh ok

considering this is my first run ill just do what i feel like and when i do subsequent runs start experimenting

for example atm i refuse to take fae out of my party

i love her with my entire being, shes getting out on the first lib rite >:3

[faint hare]

ok so i have more of an optimizing question

with fae would it be better for me to give her the +3 quickness tali i have or the +15% speed when holding the orb

since idk if +3 overall would be better than 15%

assuming that it takes from base quick then i suspect the answer is the +3 but im just wanting to make sure :3

since as of right now i use her as more of a plunge/throw character(idk the exact terms) with her movement

[prime dirge]

Talking to her is a great experience, with the snark and the great BGM. Also you learn about the lore

So back to your question, you can get a partial answer by equipping (if available) a +2 quickness trinket, and comparing the meter-per-second speed from before and after

Then, for the 15% increase, we need to know if that's an increase on her score or her meter-per-second speed. I don't know which one it is but Erumi probs does.
Since she seems to be your "fights for the orb"/plunger, the on-orb increase makes sense IMO, but that's still subject to crunching the numbers

[spiral zealot]

I can get back to you tomorrow about to go to sleep

[prime dirge]

Also I think that's my longest spoilerless comment on this channel

What made you jump into the game, Plum?
Uh. I ask since so many fans bump into the "What if I try Pyre?" question, but the vast majority prefers not to read

[faint hare]

ahh ok thank you! and goodnight :3

[faint hare]

i love sgg and i mean i wanted to play it :3(also jodi is very pretty i love her design, i saw horns and just went p l e a se) but i also have a solid appreciation for vn's after playing va11 halla. its also on my brothers steam account and we have family share so thats also cool :3

also please im in an emotional gridlock rn ;-;

first lib rite

ill start speaking in spoiler tag now

||ok so like my options are hedwin, jodi, and fae. my first thought is like "fae, i love her and ive used her in every rite since ive gotten her" but then the more logistic part of me with the plan in mind is hedwin, he seems like he'd be the best in terms of just being able to support the commonwealth side of the plan. and idk if jodi is even a contender but maybe, just her being a demon and just how she acts doesnt seem like the best option to hold up a very fine operation such as this but i love her to bits she just has strong mom vibes and i love it||

i just ;-;

hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

||like me sending jodi or fae has more emotional implications while hedwin has more logical thoughts with it||

||also i dont know anyones crimes or convictions yet, i have no standard really to bid them on besides my own thoughts and thats stressful||

||also when hedwin said he wants to go back to see a loved one i just 😭, like jodi said she doesnt even know and fae is like, idek what fae wants lol||

[prime dirge]

Whew. So. A few pointers about that:
||* Erryone on the blackwagon is commited to the plan. There's plenty of ways to help, even for Jodi.||
||* Go with your current information for now. It's the best you can do 😦 Trust your gut with the intel you have||
||* A big part of the game is to liberate your MVPs (sometimes) and finding a way to stay strong with the rest of exiles. They are stronger than you think too. But maybe your playstyle changes a bit||

Also: staring at the screen while trying to decide is natural. As happens in so many VNs

[faint hare]

hhhhhhhhh T-T

i think...

i think ill wait a bit before i do anything

just think it over yk

[prime dirge]

It's fine. You can think it over while you walk a bit or so. While you eat a bit

[faint hare]

||at least i think ive narrowed it down to jodi and hedwin, since i want to keep fae considering i know nothing about her and just, idk it doesnt sit well leaving her in the commonwealth mostly on her own||

[prime dirge]

||She wouldn't be alone if that's your concern. But I get why you'd prefer to learn more about her||

[faint hare]

||and i feel like a lot of the reluctance for choosing one of em is because i dont know a lot, i want to learn more about them and i assume whoever i chose i lose most all personal communication with||

[prime dirge]

||You'll miss whoever you manage to liberate. It pangs your heart ||

||That's a solid consideration, but do keep in mind anyone who stays is going to suffer for a bit longer. Although that's not that important since you can only pick one at a time||

[faint hare]

||ok but like from a gamer perspective ive put more work into jodi and fae than i have hedwin, like jodi and fae have whole builds going while hedwin kinda exists as anti air and basic util||

||but i think ill go for hedwin, ill think it over a bit more and thank you for the help ;-;||

also i hate among us, it has tainted the words among and impostor so when it was said all i could think was amogus >:[

[prime dirge]

Pragmatic considerations are also important. But the non-lib rites will give XP to your preferred exiles and at some point you'll have to send someone you like to play with

I do think Hedwyn is easy to use, but you have your own playstyle

[faint hare]

also man gotta love the entire ||they need to be enlightened lvl3 to chose them therefore forcing me to chose a more used character >_>||

[faint hare]

yea i mean so far ive been going with a fae for just rushing with throws and plunges, a jodi built with the farie trinket that drops the things on a banish for infinite stamina(i forgot the name ;-;) so she has funny movement options and a 3rd slot up for whatever

sucks that i cant use pam with jodi rn >_>

also pam is just 😳

[prime dirge]

Ah, you mean Pam " @prime dirge 's crutch" Theyn

[faint hare]

||and when volfred spoke in english and fully va'ed for that bit i was just genuinely terrified||

[prime dirge]

Huh. Mobile Jodi. I don't think I tried that

[faint hare]

its funny just to have her banish, pick up the thing, and just hop everywhere

its like im using tizo but massive

[prime dirge]

Yeppers. Pyre has a good shout at being the best SGG game. Also def my fav SGG. haven't played T please don't kill me

has flying though. But Jodi was a great defender

[prime dirge]

||Also this is one of the major arguments for "Reader is you (the player)" hypothesis||

[faint hare]

||i mean thats what i was already thinking lol, it makes a lot of sense||

[faint hare]

as of right now pyre has taken #2 fav spot for sgg with transistor as #1

and with the sheer emotional rollercoaster of a game this is it might take #1

[prime dirge]

YES. Join the dark side. I mean. Downside

We have , also Jodi and Pam

[faint hare]

also whats the name of the vibin song darren sung for the ocean segment, since like..... it was really good ;-;

pyre has also taken hold as most favorite ost so far

[prime dirge]

Close between Pyre and Bastion for me. But I haven't vibed as much as I'd like with Pyre's

[faint hare]

:0 i found it

[prime dirge]

There's Time Passes , Will of the Scribes, The Old Ways (don't listen to it yet), Downside Ballad, Forbidden Knowledge (Sandra's BGM), and there's more distilled vibes but I don't remember them

[prime dirge]

I want names, Plum

[faint hare]

hehe i understand the emote now 😎

https://open.spotify.com/track/6YtEjJLXLVjNcnpyIHv0PT?si=319bfbac568c4b04

it just slaps

[prime dirge]

Ah. Uh. His instrumental songs are easier to vibe with IMO. But then again I'm a dog
woof

Nvm I see what you mean

[faint hare]

i honestly just vibe with any vocal tracks from sgg

besides good riddance in hades ._.

i just dont vibe with it

everything else i do

||but im curious does the tension between jodi and pam settle if i keep jodi there a bit longer?? since i really wanna see how that ends up 👉 👈||

||if so im sending hedwyn in my first lib rite :3||

[prime dirge]

Uh huh. Do consider asking for some tracks then. Maybe not to leave them as you play but maybe to take in the sights, to brighten the room while you do something else nearby, that kind of stuff

[faint hare]

tfw you spell rite wrong ._.

[prime dirge]

Sent Hedwyn first myself

[faint hare]

cool im sending him first then :3 just itll be later ive played at least 5 hours of it today =w=

[prime dirge]

It'll be a good point to end the session. While you ponder your decision and its outcome

[trail talon]

this has been my strategy! i’m somewhat surprised that i haven’t seen others using Jodi in an Offensive position: she can steamroll her way to the pyre if you let her

[trail talon]

||the fun is only beginning||

vagrant song is great, you can just sit back and hum along

[prime dirge]

Some of us are good with speedy bois

[faint hare]

im sure with fae's personal tali being the ricochet aura shots i could play her more as a sniper

[prime dirge]

I used that for fun, but the sniper idea seems difficult to pull off

Unless you have mad prediction skills

[faint hare]

well you see i play fighting games 😎 but im not good at them

[prime dirge]

Hey that's me with FPSs

Erumi's word is worth more than mine on this, but if you git gud with *ae as a bouncy sniper, you'd have a strat that few people can play against in the Rite Club

[faint hare]

hehe *ae

but oooo that sure is incentive if ive ever seen it

i mean like im a bow main in hades and that requires a bit of aiming sometimes

so im sure i could be decent at it

[prime dirge]

The problem is the delay as the aura travels. It would be a good area-denial strat if you're good at that

Jumping is enough to cross it, but if you defend the orb with the aura and that gives you enough time to grab it...

[faint hare]

and thats where speed jodi comes in

[prime dirge]

We tried that, it doesn't work

• Erumi, possibly

[prime dirge]

Well, yes, but that doesn't use the bouncy aura

[faint hare]

ill start getting into my stupid competitive thoughts and builds after i finish my first run lol

[trail talon]

for bouncing aura, you have to account for both Delay and Range. which makes that ability more trouble than it’s worth unless you’re willing to practice using it

[prime dirge]

That's true competitively. But it adds a layer of fun on singleplayer.
We could even have a "only try plunging after you've bounce-banished someone" type of challenge

We could suggest this to anyone currently playing coughs Babs coughs

[faint hare]

ok ive eaten a bit, taken abt a 30 minute break, and i think im ready to go through with the first lib rite ;-;

[prime dirge]

You're not. Nobody ever is 😭

But you've gotta do it anyway

Still set on Hedwyn?

[faint hare]

its been done ;-;

he's gone now

i looked at the cooking tools and just the line of "he used to do most of the cooking but now..." just 😭

it already feels so empty ;-;

[prime dirge]

THE PANGS. Yup. Playing Pyre is an...abusive relationship?

[faint hare]

emotional wreck of a relationship

[prime dirge]

May he return in glory

[faint hare]

😭

well anyway back to the downwell with me ;-;

[prime dirge]

The ||white robes ||

Sit down and contemplate a bit ;-;

But as you were saying, it's a good point to stop for today

[faint hare]

THE ROSTER JUST OPENS ON JODI NOW ISTFG

[prime dirge]

May he return in glory intensifies

Yeah, that's another pang I didn't notice

[faint hare]

this game is gonna make me cry by the time i finish it ;-;

im just hurt emotionally rn

[prime dirge]

[faint hare]

;-;

well anyway yea i think thats it for me today lol

thanks for all the help!

goodnight =w=

[prime dirge]

Glad to have you with us

Pyre's playerbase has increased by 10%

[faint hare]

lmao

[faint hare]

glad to be here

[timid silo]

Lovely backread, glad you're enjoying it in full!

[calm hamlet]

Just finished Pyre yesterday- standard with all titan stars! Legit took 15 minutes crash course on philosophy to make a choice😴

[timid silo]

What did you choose in the end? (possibly spoiler'd for the sake of the other new player here?)

[calm hamlet]

I chose ||to release Oralech, really think he deserved it||

also because ||he would yeet himself off the cliff||

[native shard]

same

[timid silo]

YEAH same

[calm hamlet]

i only wish we could see other dialogues in the game and interactions without like replaying the whole thing
small details like that are a shame to miss

[untold quartz]

Ah, backreading and also enjoying 😀

There's a Discord server that has huge swathes of text pulled from the game and indexed, I use it for fanwork reference

Labor of love from a longtime pillar of the fandom

I dunno if they're still linking people though?

[calm hamlet]

they are real MVPs then😆 . Do you know the name of the server?

[spiral zealot]

Alright so, the ball speed is applied after quickness (as you can imagine), if its level 15 then you get 15% more speed, that means a 16 Speed (500 units) plus 15% is 575 units (don't ask me what the units means). +3 quickness is level 19 which is 545 units. 575 Units is the same as quickness 21. So use the +15%

[faint hare]

:0 n u m b e r s ok thank you!

[spiral zealot]

yeah glad to help

[faint hare]

ok so im on my second lib rite and man it happened faster than i thought it would ;-;

||i think im gonna send rukey, since one of the rites i did was against barker so knowing that his debts are paid and having taken the route where he gets the lil buff from the scribes with him noting that he needs to take care of his family is just ;-;. like i was thinking pam but i havent used her much and id like to see what she can do along with the fact i feel like she might kill someone thanks to that one interaction with her. and having learned fae's entire reason for exile im just ;-;, i kinda dont want to send her back at least not this rite since. so yea imma send rukey and see how it goes :3||

||NVM IM PISSED WTF DO YOU MEAN I CAN ONLY SEND FAE JODI OR PAM RUKEY IS ALSO RANK 3 WTF||

now im sad ;-;

||since like i wanna keep jodi and pam since i wanna see if they develop more but that would mean sending fae back and i just dont want to do that either ;-;||

[deft quail]

are ya winning son?

[faint hare]

god no im not winning im torn rn

i didnt think they would pull a bs level minimum that doesnt even scale by level ;-;

[deft quail]

Im not saying you should do it, because I would never invalidate the sanctity of the rites, ahem but you can decide to throw the rite.

[faint hare]

:0

truuuuuuue

and i mean

hold on lemme reopen the game it crashed ._.

[deft quail]

haha wink

[faint hare]

||i mean i wouldnt hate to throw it since dalbert would go instead and i feel like they deserve it||

but like, then id have to throw but i dont want to lose one of the 3 i can choose ;-;

[deft quail]

maybe sleep on the decision

[faint hare]

yea ill just save and quit and think it over for a bit ;-;

[deft quail]

or you could flip a 3 sided coin

[timid silo]

Not a level minimum, for the record! Slightly different system.

Best of luck, it doesn't look like an easy choice with what you've said about your priorities so far

[faint hare]

oh then how does it work?? just so i know for later :3

[faint hare]

its not easy at all ;-;, im choosing between my 3 favorite characters here

[timid silo]

The three characters with the most exp!

[faint hare]

._. man sgg really knows how to make me miss those i use a lot huh

[timid silo]

SGG employing increasingly aggressive methods for making us mix up our playstyles 😂 no wonder they went on to make a roguelite after this 😂 next one will have a dev physically materialize in our homes wielding a baseball bat

[faint hare]

oh god please no ;-;

but yea i really dont know what to do here

||since say i throw the rite, the option most favorable on a personal level with just my love for the characters. i end up hindering the plan but at least the other team gets to return someone and i get to keep my favs, but then theres the bit of keeping them in the downside idk if it would sit well for me, and it would require me to really just power level one character to even get a different choice in the next lib rite||

||vs i send someone and win, that breaks it down to jodi(i want to keep her to see how she will develop with pam if there is more that happens), pam(i just started using her and i dont think she wolud be the best fit to send back to the commonwealth anyway considering shes a harp that maybe has some murderous intentions), and i refuse to send fae back rn(she's super fun to use and with her backstory laid out i just dont feel well with sending her ;-;)||

||hhhhhhhhh im leaning throw or jodi now ;-;||

[deft quail]

I think in your heart you wont win even if you tried

[faint hare]

i-.... hhhhhhhhh i think i might set jodi to be liberated

but i dont want to let her go

does jodi have more development with pam if i keep them actually?? since if there is more that might change my decision

since literally the rite before the lib one i was able to use them together :3

[trail talon]

if they can participate in the rites alongside each other, then you may have more or less completed their arc? if i’m wrong, someone correct me

[faint hare]

ahh ok since my head has taken the leap to start shipping them and i just want to know if theres actually more to their arc or not lol

[trail talon]

i don’t recall the jodi/pam ship being made official in the events of the game, though from what i’ve seen they are a popular fanship

[deft quail]

There’s definitely more interaction between them. Although i dont think anything more significant

Could be wrong tho

[faint hare]

;-;

i dont want to look anything up and potentially spoil it but i also dont want to make a decision that ill regret ;-;

[trail talon]

that’s what future playthroughs are for

[faint hare]

hhhhhhhhh ;-; the thought of having to play the game again doesnt seem as painful as first run but still

[untold quartz]

(definite spoilers, fair warning) Jodi and Pam ||are an extremely popular ship, but their relationship arc doesn't get a very satisfying conclusion, unfortunately||

[timid silo]

Yeah there's quality fic but not a whole lot of canon

[untold quartz]

||There's a great buildup to them agreeing to conduct the Rites together, but not a lot of interaction in events after that. Minor stuff here and there, a few nods in the late game.||

||It feels like Greg brought them as far as that point and then got distracted with other characters' arcs. Which, to be fair, there is a lot of material to cover, the cast is huge.||

||So they end the game in a state of ongoing truce, and that's about as far as canon goes. /shrug||

(plot spoilers done!)

As far as your dilemma goes, I think Pyre is deliberately designed to leverage the typical habits of your average gamer (pick my favorites! use them a lot!) to force us to let our favorites go.

It's clever and subversive game design, and it can hit you real hard the first time you realize you've played yourself that way. 😭

[faint hare]

ahh ok :< that def helps my choice a bit more lol

[deft quail]

||sometimes life goes on and relationships dont have closure||

[untold quartz]

That said, if you're gonna ||throw a match||, the Fate is one of your best options 💕

[faint hare]

IK JUST MY 3 FAVORITES ARE THE ONLY ONES UP FOR LIBERATION AND I WAS JUST SAD

[faint hare]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;-; i just dont know if i want to throw any lib rites this run

[untold quartz]

||Yeah, I think it resolves decently well and it's only a major disappointment if you ship them. Which, I mean, I do! But it wasn't a priority for Greg and that's his call.||

[faint hare]

ok what if and hear me out

[untold quartz]

It's your call! And then you live with it. The burden of the RRRRRRRRRRREADER is a heavy one.

[faint hare]

i make it a best of 3 for the lib rite

like i turn on the smarter ai titan star

and have it be a best of 3

[untold quartz]

(Taking your knocks, moving forward anyway, and making the best of things is a Big Theme in this game, haha)

Hmm, leave the fate of the Fate up to fate? 😀

Well, fate and skill.

[trail talon]

got to go with where your heart leans

[faint hare]

IDK WHERE IT LEANS THATS THE ISSUE >:(

[trail talon]

not sure i could see pam and jodi together Unless they both had a lot more time together than the duration of the game’s storyline

[untold quartz]

When I can't decide something, I like to roll a dice or flip a coin (depending on the number of options) and then, if I find I'm disappointed with the result, I do the other thing anyway. 😂

[faint hare]

since like i feel like the fate deserve to win the lib rite, they've been trying for a while and i just show up and havent lost a single rite yet, but i dont want to make my team suffer more than they have ;-;

[faint hare]

lol

but yea i think im gonna go with the best of 3 thing with jodi as the one to be liberated

[untold quartz]

I do think it's worth noting that there are different levels of desperation to escape the Downside among the Nightwings, from "My life will lose all meaning if I'm trapped here forever" to "Could be nice, I suppose, but I'm good either way" ||to "I run a successful Etsy shop and I'm just here to help a friend, dammit". 😝 ||

So the suffering of your team does depend on the teammate, if that helps the sense of guilt at all. 💕

[faint hare]

yea and i feel like jodi has more of a "im fine either way", same with pam but i feel like she has a lean to staying with the crew in the downside(same with fae at least thats the vibe i get)

[trail talon]

it’s true: i sent the ones who really missed home up first

[faint hare]

WELL NOW I FEEL BAD THAT I DIDNT USE RUKEY ENOUGH SINCE I WAS PLANNING TO SEND HIM BACK IF IT WASNT FOR ME USING JODI PAM AND FAE ALL THE TIME

[untold quartz]

Jodi's outcome if you liberate her is ||really charming, tbh, so I always try to send her up||.

[trail talon]

without intending to sway you either way, i feel like jodi has simply lost all hope of freeing herself: that’s why she’s usually among the first ones i liberate

i was totally in the same boat during my first playthrough: wanted to send rukey up but couldn’t

[untold quartz]

Yeah, she's terse about it (she doesn't do Talking About Our Feelings the way Hedwyn or Rukey do), but it feels less like she doesn't want it, and more like she's resigned herself to being an irretrievably changed demon who doesn't deserve it. 😭

[deft quail]

I sent all the main three up first

[faint hare]

i think thats where im heading lol

[untold quartz]

Also ||she's got kids waiting for her up there! As a mom of tinies myself, I can't leave her separated from her kids!|| 🤣

||Let. 👏 Jodi. 👏 Meet. 👏 Her. 👏 Grandkids. 👏||

[faint hare]

but yea i think im gonna send the main 3 first since tbh i dont really feel much of a conviction to send gilman tizo or fae

[untold quartz]

||She's got to have a little grandbaby or two by now, if Hedwyn is as old as he is.||

[faint hare]

or pam for that matter, i feel like she might kill someone ._.

[untold quartz]

Pam...has her own issues. If you keep her around and get to know her better, well, you'll see. 😁

[faint hare]

AaaAAAaa but i dont even know why jodi was exiled in the first place ;w;

[deft quail]

||send falcon ron up next||

[untold quartz]

This is what multiple playthroughs are for ❤️

[faint hare]

true ;-;

[untold quartz]

I had to play Pyre twice to even begin to feel like I'd covered a decent amount of the content

(which is still way less time than you'd spend completing Hades, fwiw)

[trail talon]

same: did my first playthrough, then an unfinished business playthrough

[faint hare]

oh also does pyre have a new game plus thingy where i keep talis, bio info, book pages, etc

[deft quail]

yes

[faint hare]

ahh ok ok

[deft quail]

but dont expect to win any rites

[faint hare]

w-wut

[trail talon]

well, there’s an extra hard mode unlocked after finishing a playthrough

[faint hare]

oohhh yea yea that

i mean im already getting challenged with the titan star lol

[untold quartz]

According to Greg Kasavin, from a post in 2017:

`Hey, thank you very much for playing, and it's great to hear you enjoyed the game!

To answer your question, there is no New Game Plus feature in Pyre. We figured that with this being our biggest-ever campaign, and it being inherently replayable, and the inclusion of Versus Mode all meant that Pyre packed a lot of lasting value, especially compared with our previous games. Note you can also play the campaign at the 'Heightened' difficulty setting if you didn't try that on your first run.

That being said, it's reasonable that folks like you who might have played and enjoyed our New Game Plus modes in Bastion or Transistor would hope to see the same in Pyre. Let us know specifically what you would have wanted to see here, if anything. Part of the reason we didn't pursue it with Pyre was that the game just wouldn't work (or work well) if you started over with all your characters at a high level already. On the other hand, maybe the idea of playing again vs. significantly more challenging adversaries would have been appealing.`

[faint hare]

huh ok

i mean like ive been broke ever since i saved up for the moon shard tali so a new game to buy other things would be nice lol

[untold quartz]

You can always buy other things your second time through! I thought of it as another form of having to let my favorites go, haha.

Gotta learn how to play with a different array of talismans instead of accumulating all of them.

[faint hare]

mhm and if im gonna participate in the community rite stuff im gonna need to learn how to play with and against different things lol

[untold quartz]

Yup! I honestly appreciate that aspect of Pyre, it has so many built-in ways to boost you out of your rut and encourage you to engage with all the options it has to offer.

You can't just OP your preferred party and steamroll your way through the game with them every time, the way RPG mechanics usually encourage.

[faint hare]

mhm, and honestly its really cool how the game forces you out of your comfort zone but letting you still stay mildly in it

but anyway i think im ready to do the lib rite ;-;

[untold quartz]

It's well balanced that way. 💕

Good luck! 😁

[faint hare]

so thank you all for the help <3. it very much assisted since otherwise idek if i wouldve done it today ;-;

[untold quartz]

Let us know how it turns out.

[faint hare]

will do

[faint hare]

its been done

it was actually pretty close ngl, i had a lead and just needed one more plunge but i kept choking and i was one plunge away from losing lol

but man

it feels so empty ;-;

the roster opens on rukey now

just 😭

well now i gotta wait for the next cycle ;-;

[deft quail]

Godspeed, Captain Jodariel

[timid silo]

It is done

[deep cedar]

i just met tariq he is very handsome 😳

hello sir

can i romance him

[young folio]

Alas, you cannot romance characters in pyre ||...mostly||

[spiral zealot]

large spoilers||Orb waifu is orb laifu||

[timid silo]

He is indeed very handsome!

[untold quartz]

||💚 💚 💚||

[faint hare]

ok so i finished the 3rd lib rite

and man

||oralech is kinda 😳||

||but now all of the main 3 are gone ;-;||

[prime dirge]

Oof. ||That's...a good thing?||

[faint hare]

honestly i just wish i figured out jodi and hedwyns backstories

but that can wait for another run

my fae is lvl5 now 😎

and pam is less than 1 rite away from lvl5 too lol

[prime dirge]

||Aches to not be able to talk with them anymore. I'd miss Rukey the most. ||His dialog is funny

Everyone is well written. You'd miss things no matter what you do.
Pyre abusive relationship etc

[faint hare]

you see thats why i just do every possible combination 😎

[prime dirge]

Ooh. Pam and Fae are mobile

You'll have to ponder for your next annointed. Which is by design 😛

[faint hare]

my pam i just gave her the prayer beads and movement

[faint hare]

my next anointed is gonna be someone i dont care about like gilman >_>

i refuse to let fae or pam go this run

[prime dirge]

Wait for the dialog. You'll be getting a few combinations I didn't, so maybe that makes you change your mind

[faint hare]

maybe

but ||when i went against oralech i specifically wanted to beat him so i did on my 3rd try lol||

||got really close on the first and second try tho, i learned that the ai does inputs at a speed i physically cant begin to try to match||

[prime dirge]

Jodi would have helped as a central defender, maybe. I don't remember how I eked out a victory

I also played without titan stars

[faint hare]

ahh i just did the last lib rite with 3-4 titan stars lol

[prime dirge]

The Plan is supreme. Game difficulty be damned

[faint hare]

||oralech|| i did with 4 iirc

[prime dirge]

Hitting the gym for the Rite Club I see

[faint hare]

specifically the +30 enemy life, -50% stam reduc for enemies, return faster from banishment, and one more i know im forgetting

[faint hare]

hehe its fun when ||oralech|| hops 3 times so fast that i cant react taking out my entire party and plunging at the same time

also the quick cast on fae feels really weird ngl

since i have her built for a mix of speed and cast with a bit of throwing but like

the cast feels wrong to only have to tap for like .5sec for power cast

[prime dirge]

Next playthrough I should play with TS. And taking the trinkets more seriously instead of saving my sol till the endgame

[faint hare]

the only stars im scared of rn are the stat increases

like the presence buff i could maybe deal with but the quickness one im not even willing to try

[prime dirge]

For a mere...5 points per star, IIRC?

[faint hare]

8

its +8 lol

i think

yea its +8 of the correlating stat for the star

but i mean that enlightenment buff 👀

[prime dirge]

I meant enlightment points. 5 points 😑

[faint hare]

oh mb lol

[prime dirge]

+8 is a lot 🙀

[faint hare]

the extra enlightenment is percentage based isnt it??

eh i might be remembering stuff wrong lol

also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848416301059538997/854887178827726848/unknown.png

do people just not read

[prime dirge]

It's %-based, yeah. I think 5%

[prime dirge]

Well. There's plenty we can speculate with this information.
But it does look like a big bunch of Pyre's playerbase doesn't care about the lore

Which means...well, many things should this be correct

Before I freak out, we should consider the "finished the game" percentage. Maybe the "has the game, hasn't played" playercount was inflated by people buying the SGG bundle without caring about Pyre, and also there was the "preorder Hades, get Pyre" promo for a while IIRC

I really don't get how such a chunk of the playerbase could like Pyre while not caring for the lore, but this makes sense of the number

[faint hare]

i mean ive come to a point where i skim the book since like

it is a lot

but i at least still read it lol

[prime dirge]

Read it after lib rites or big shocks
Helps soothe the Reader

[faint hare]

but man, at least ive passed the sheer pain that was the first 2 lib rites

since tbh those hit the hardest

3rd one i was like "yea ok ik what im doing now"

[prime dirge]

End To Torment? Nah fam, that happens in Hades. Pyre is Tear City

Here we have replays and tissues, no here

[faint hare]

yk can i just mention how like submersion breaking the generic masked character art is lol

like

seeing the smol lil fae unmasked one line, then masked and she grows to like twice the size the next

[prime dirge]

FWIW, Rukey is sitting on a box (?) on his sprite

"Normalize same-height meetings" and all that

[faint hare]

so.... how many more lib rites are there??

well maybe a less spoilery question could be how much longer is the main story lol

[trail talon]

you’ve done two lib rites? there’s still a ways to go

[prime dirge]

Three. Main cast are gone

[faint hare]

^^yea

[prime dirge]

Righto. They're called Scavengers in some obscure file

[faint hare]

liberated rukey a bit ago

[trail talon]

congrats! there’s still a ways to go though (just slightly less of a ways than i originally assumed)

[faint hare]

ahh cool cool :3

[midnight hawk]

re: reading the book, i didn't read it during my playthru because i didn't like that it was out of order in a, way i felt was confusing rather than interesting. so i just read the book online afterwards

[prime dirge]

In a more serious note, the design of the book was majestic and it was very interesting to see the role of those characters that went from "minor reference'd char" to "MC of another story". What we do in life echoes in eternity and so on

A meta-example of this is that this channel housed so many different users in the past. They've left/moved on/lost interest
Not sure how that makes me feel

I went off track but I was aiming at a "This is why I read the Book"

[spiral zealot]

Pyre dlc but you play as the original scribes and then what you do is saved and can be transferred to a normal game to change it?!?!?! Like imagine your playing as (book spoilers and late game spoilers) ||Underking Ores and you are controlling the boat, and if you miss when attacking Unfathomed Plurnes when your traveling with the night wings normally the boat rite doesnt exist and instead you fight against the titan, in a span of multiple battle across multiple cycles, whittling down her health and destroying that which the original scribes couldn't or never being able to defeat her, causing a different outcome to occur||

[prime dirge]

I'm getting a vibe like that SC2 trailer,
The zerg brought ruin to our world. Our proud people became refugees. But they could not shatter our unity...

[spiral zealot]

||or even Ha'ub dies inside shax six shoulders, but his power still remains, undeotanyed. Years later as you travel the downside, shaz starts to awaken again. You have to make the choice to potentially sacrifice a exile to dove into shax and detonate the remains of ha'ub. OH THE POSSIBILITIES||

[prime dirge]

||I feel like a bad person for suggesting this but after you mentioned 'detonate' I could only think of . Also the Deliver Hope trailer ||

[spiral zealot]

||well yeah ha'ub was the imp scribe so I do mean blow him up||

[prime dirge]

||I meant sending to blow it up 😭 ||

[spiral zealot]

||Oh I was thinking a nice aura blast would do it but either works||

[prime dirge]

||This is reminding me of so many climax moments in so many stories . Hadn't realized it's a trope||

But it's a great idea nonetheless. We've two Pyre DLCs that we I know of so far

[spiral zealot]

2! what's the first?

[prime dirge]

I mean. It wasn't explicitly presented as a DLC, but it cracked me up to see your reply there

[spiral zealot]

Ooooooooooh right yeah

||3 part story
Act 1) You play as the scribes
Act 2) You play as the night wings with the story fundamentally changed base don how you played as the scribes
Act 3) Guitar dog go nyoom with guitar puppies in the epilogue of Act 2||

[prime dirge]

That would scratch so many itches

[trail talon]

||potential act 4) Generations into the future, yslach wakes up: the triumvirates must work to send him to sleep again||

[prime dirge]

||MFW Barker's puppy school is the only thing that saved Earth/Whatever planet this takes place in||

||Maybe the books, having been left untouched for millenia, start moving on their own and assemble into a fragment (?) of Yslach||

||The notes of the school must be read, and they point towards other pages explaining how to attend the rites. These must be read too||

||Pyre+sequel = Bastion? I don't think I did my math right||

||Whoops. I was thinking of an archaeology-like gameplay. Like Heaven's Vault.
This means the equation looks like
Pyre+sequel = notBastion||

[untold quartz]

okay but I loved Gilman though?

he's so over-the-top and enthusiastic and noisy, and yet so polite and so kind~

I mean, granted, in the Rites he handles like trying to sling around a weighted tennis ball on the end of a very long rubber band and I never really got the hang of it 🙄

but as a character? he's /chefskiss.gif as far as I'm concerned

[tulip garnet]

I dont know why my cpu usage is always at 90%, my pc shouldnt have any problem with a game like this, specs:i5 9400f,1660,16 gb ram

[upbeat sage]

Is your cpu usage like this in other games/applications? @tulip garnet

[tulip garnet]

Of course not

[upbeat sage]

You're not the only person I noticed who's had the same issue from doing a little bit of searching
Unfortunately I don't know of any possible solution, sorry

Your best bet might be to send supergiant an email through the 'contact us' page detailing out the issue @tulip garnet

(unless you've done that already)

[tulip garnet]

Nevermind it’s not a big deal nothing’s wrong with framerate smooth 75fps it’s just weird is all

[upbeat sage]

My thought is pyre is heavily using 1 or 2 cores so cpu usage appears incredibly high
It's incredibly common for directx 11 games to do this

[tulip garnet]

Nah

Msi afterburner shows all cores at 80-90% all the time

[upbeat sage]

Wow that is real weird

[deft quail]

I didnt like him much in the campaign, now i love playing with him

[lime mural]

Rukey, Gilman, and Ti'zo were probably my favorites.

[calm hamlet]

cliche opinion, I liked Pamitha but prolly because of combat

[lime mural]

Nah, Pam's great.

[deft quail]

I liberated rukey first so I didnt get really good with him

dont play him much

[calm hamlet]

i liberated hedwyn first so now Im thinking of replaying the game so that I can use him and Jodariel properly

[untold quartz]

Jodariel is incredible with the right skill tree

people get turned off using her because she's so slow to start with

but you can turn her into the magnificent earth-shaking grasshopper from hell if you play your cards right

BOOM BOOM BOOM plunge~~ 🔥

[scenic kiln]

I liberated her first, except she hard-carried me through that rite so I was like :/ well drat

XD

[faint hare]

ok so im on my 4th lib rite

options are fae, pam, bertrude and its against the essence

so im leaning pam or bertrude, pam for story or at least for the theme of being against her sister, and bertrude for the free keep of my favorite 2

[lime mural]

I liberated Pam against the Essence.

[faint hare]

did anything neat happen :3

[lime mural]

No, I just felt a surge of "You have a ship called the Qwib-Qwib?" energy but a little more righteous indignation?

Pam: "You know my sister? Who sucks? I want you to throw the Liberation rite for her."
Me: "Sending you up, got it."

[faint hare]

lol

might just send bertrude to keep pam and fae since i think im at the end of the game and id like to stay at least mildly comfy in terms of gameplay

[lime mural]

Bertrude can be surprisingly mobile, and her wide Aura Cast is a good defensive tool.

That being said, I never got used to Fae's playstyle.

[faint hare]

i only use her for the cast lol, she feels to sluggish otherwise

[faint hare]

s p e e d a n d t h r o w

i love using fae

she just zooms and chucks the orb into the pyre so fast

and im running pam with speed and prayer beads for optimal plunging lol

i just really miss jodi since she was so fun to use and i loved her character ;-;

but ill def think it over for a bit

[spiral zealot]

Crones are my preferred scorers, their jumps are so long and they can get really fast

[stiff tangle]

_ae was my best player and carried half the rites omg???

[faint hare]

i ended up almost soloing my 2nd encounter with chastity(literally right before where i am rn lol) with _ae

it was great

like just have her cast a bit, maybe banish one or 2 adversaries, then just use her massive jump and just throw

its great

[stiff tangle]

Why throw when you can jump twice and plunge
And then suffer while she's banished because you're not very bright

LMAO

[faint hare]

lol give her prayer beads and make her a plunge bot

[untold quartz]

Prayer beads are so good 🤩

[verbal haven]

Slow but powerful, she was hard to give up but I felt she deserved it

[faint hare]

GUYS

GUYS

PLEASE

||FINAL LIB RITE||

IDK WHAT TO DO

my options are tizo, fae, and volfred

but like

[prime dirge]

Bahaha this is great to read 🤣

Well, it's not an easy choice. Freaking out is commonplace

[faint hare]

but idek if i should even try since just ;-;

||oralech really deserves freedom but just...||

[prime dirge]

Who did you annoint?

[faint hare]

and idek if i want to lib fae since i had the lil convo between her and the fate and i was like "please i dont want her to go now since she has friends"

[faint hare]

i havent yet

but i also wanna maybe do volfred since like...

why not

[prime dirge]

Oh nvm. Welp. We could make a pro/con list of choosing each of the three

[faint hare]

and tizo i might do for a joke who knows

[faint hare]

please i need help here

and like ||what happens with oralech, does he just not get to go free ;0;||

[prime dirge]

First off, do you have any role-play factors you should consider?
Then, how does the Plan factor in all this?
Also, would you rather ||send Oralech, or one of your Nightwings||?

There's more but let's start with that. Imma be your rubber duck for the next...while

[faint hare]

oh i need to eat dinner actually ._.

great timing

but yea ill be back in a bit

[prime dirge]

Give a thought to these as you dine

You could also increase the volume so you hear the music in the kitchen

[deft quail]

for my last lib rite I ||chose fae to be liberated. Eventually won and I didnt give oralech his freedom cause i was really into the us vs them mentality. At the end I still chose fae to be liberated because I wanted her to be with tizo, and she really deserved freedom||

[prime dirge]

I don't think it's time to talk about the ||at the end part||. He's about to start the rite

[deft quail]

agreed, but what's the point of ||spoiler|| then

[faint hare]

ok im back

[prime dirge]

Uh. I'd suggest not clicking Coranium's comment yet

[faint hare]

ahh ok

but so ive already have liberated
hedwyn, jodi, rukey, gilman, pam, bertrude, and i think thats it

[prime dirge]

(Read it after you end, of course)

[faint hare]

like my heart wants fae to be liberates but just she made friends with the fate and i dont want to take her away from them but she deserves freedom ;-;

[prime dirge]

So there's a reason for her to stay. Is there a reason for her to ascend?

[faint hare]

and volfred i feel like he should at least be there to see his plan actually work and happen, he orchestrated the whole thing so the least he can get is to see it unfold, also potential drama between him and ||oralech||

[faint hare]

not.... particularly :<. looking at her reason for exile she didnt deserve it at all, but through dialogue she just doesnt seem like she wants to go to the commonwealth. shes mentioned how she hasnt really felt loneliness since she has nothing to compare to, and she mentioned how those in the commonwealth told her to not be herself. but with the plan happening and everyone i liberated there too she'd have friends to be with :<

but i dont want to take her away from the fate

and tizo is tizo

he's there to be funny

[prime dirge]

She won't be devastated if she stays, is what you're saying

[faint hare]

yea

[prime dirge]

Uh. I think neither of the three would be devastated for staying. Volf would take it in the chin, but he values the plan more than his freedom

I think that's what he'd do?

jdfgadsf getting invested into this as well

[faint hare]

lol

[deft quail]

its not an emotional decision, its a gamer decision

[faint hare]

but for me its mostly a question of

1. do i even want to deny ||oralech|| another shot :<
2. if i do want to liberate another should i go with fae or volfred, since both i want to see liberated but i just dont know who ;-;

[faint hare]

lol there is no gamer decision left to be made

also if i do throw it ill soil my 100% win rate >_>

[prime dirge]

I cared a lot about the Plan. If you care about the winrate, then that's your guiding axis. You should follow if this is the case

How's your Plan success chance?

[faint hare]

like 92% iirc

[prime dirge]

Do you feel comfortable with that?

[faint hare]

i mean

if i was playing fire emblem id be more than comfy with a 92

but theres always that evil 8% >_>

[prime dirge]

Whoever you send is going to increase the chances. And the agents are going to keep inching towards 100%

[faint hare]

hmmm but then fae or volf ;-;

since like fae ive been keeping since i didnt see much of a good reason to send her

but now its really the last chance

[prime dirge]

Yeah, seems like the Plan isn't much of a factor. It's about the three-way tie right now

[trail talon]

if you’re not sure whether to throw the match, you could enable a bunch of titan stars and let fate decide

[faint hare]

lmao i always have 4 active

[prime dirge]

Oh that's good. But we still have to decide betw Fae and Fred

[faint hare]

like fae im just torn since theres reason as far as i can see for both choices

and volfred is more of a theres no downside to leaving him, but no upside either

[trail talon]

bring all the stars to bear and i think for your particular quandry, consider who would be better for the Plan, as both fred and fae don’t care much either way about achieving their own freedom

[faint hare]

well assuming the plan succeeds they all get freed right??

at least thats what the plan was vying for

[prime dirge]

Not at all. Made that mistake myself. Uh. The only way up is via lib rites. This is the last lib rite

[faint hare]

also i really wanna see fae dressed in those white raiments ngl

[faint hare]

hhhhhHHhhhHHh

[prime dirge]

That is stated at some previous point, but then stated more clearly close to the rite

[deft quail]

ya im pretty sure volf talks to you many times about the stakes coming up to the final rite

[prime dirge]

Before my last rite, I had ||Rukey pray before the end. But I didn't choose him. Since Plan and all that.||
||I was heartbroken when I picked him for a flank, and he barked proudly and said "He's as good as gone!"||. ||He wanted it so much, I denied it to him, and yet he stood like an ultimate professional to ensure my anointed's freedom||

On the other hand, Plum, you don't seem to have something like this brewing

Go with your heart? I went despite my heart

[faint hare]

aaaa im being forced to watch a movie with family

ill think it over

i just dont know who i want to send ;-;

[prime dirge]

Who'd you be more able to sleep at night, so to say, considering who you're leaving and who is going up?

[prime dirge]

(Don't read this, Plum) ||It took a while, but my view is that your comment looks like you're giving advice for his situation. And in the same spoiler block, the after-rite twist is revealed/hinted, and he'd be prone to read it fully before noticing he's read something he's not supposed to. IMO, simply marking the second part as after-rite content would be enough||

(Do note: my judgement may be somewhat off today)

[deft quail]

(also dont read)|| no i understand/agree, I read one of your comments earlier about letting oralech up and it didnt register that you meant throw the rite||

[prime dirge]

(still don't read)||Aha. All is fine then. Happened to me too, I didn't remember if the TNs are revealed before selection, so I had to play dumb with the "Who'd you anoint"||

[deft quail]

(you can read this message plum) ||liberate ||

[prime dirge]

(read if you like) ||I like , but his 0.3% discount after promising a Steam Sale didn't make me feel like liberating him||

(related)

[deft quail]

||I love how he's blissfully unaware his detriment to the ppl around him||

||like letting him hitch a ride for -stats on all your exiles||

[prime dirge]

||I forgot about that one . I felt like that was a jab at overly chatty people during road trips. At specific people in Greg's and Amir's life||

||Was it -2 Hope?||

[deft quail]

i dont remember, i think it was hope tho

[trail talon]

||it was hope, i believe, though to be fair, it wasn’t just ron that was the problem, it was the aura of the super cool not cursed at all talismans he was carrying||

[prime dirge]

Wiki says:

||In a random event he asks the Nightwings if he can hitch a ride, if they agree, his sheer annoyingness causes everyone to lose Hope temporarily.
https://pyre.fandom.com/wiki/Falcon_Ron||
This guide says:
||Travel far south, landing in Shunt for the Webbed Lanthorn Talisman or Licksand for something valuable. Next, Falcon Ron will ask you for a lift; if you give it to him, your exiles will lose -5 Glory for the next Rite but you will also have the option of buying up to three cursed Talismans in his shop, each of which offers tremendous upside and downside, or has a 50% chance of either in a given situation.
https://www.neoseeker.com/pyre/walkthrough/Liberation_Rites||

||So it's Glory but it may have been the talismans||

[midnight hawk]

it's been a minute but i think the game is basically like it's both

at least that was the impression i got

[prime dirge]

Lose every rite? No problem
Get anywhere close to and his wares? Even the drive imps get depressed

[deft quail]

big ron energy

[prime dirge]

Ah, he must be one of those people who are very skilled at brightening up a room. All they have to do is ||leave||

[native shard]

Oof

[faint hare]

I HATED THE -5 GLORY

especially since it was when i was against the accusers, had the +30 adversary pyre life, and they had a +35 pyre life trinket

so i had to deal with 165 pyre life with -5 damage to everyone

it was painful

and since i was mad i refused to lose that one

but yea ill make my decision by tomorrow ;-;

[prime dirge]

May PlumFox return in glory

[faint hare]

it wont be in glory itll be in tears ;-;

[calm hamlet]

you guys have any favorite Pyre soundtracks? Mine was Knights of the Sea and Never to Return

[untold quartz]

Strange Voyage is a big fave for me, it's so cozy 💕

[timid silo]

This is not helping Plum in the least but I don't think it's fair to say Volfred doesn't want to go... it's his life's work, he's being selfless about it in the same way other characters aren't upfront about their desires...

(don't read: ||in their situation and KNOWING THE FINAL TWISTS, I'd throw the rite and then go up myself - Volf, Oralech, ae and Ti'zo is a great Downside bunch I think. But they don't know about being able to free the Reader and don't know about Oralech's fragility||)

[lime mural]

Wait, hold up. end of Pyre spoilers ||I thought if you lose the Rite and then manipulate Oralech into sending you up, he jumps off the Falls again.||

[timid silo]

||I'm not sure of the specifics, of how much is due to winning Vs losing the Rite and how much is your telepathic approach, but you can be gentle about it and not leave him suicidal. He has a regular Downside ending too||

[deft quail]

You should listen to never to return: pyrehearts. It mixes those two songs, absolute bop.

[faint hare]

ok so like idk if i have the sheer strength in gonna need to do the final rite yet but like can we all just agree that when in the flame started playing when you go to it it was just 😳

[trail talon]

one of the best moments of the game

be sure to listen to the full version of the song as well! the in game version is a shortened one iirc. in the flame has got to possibly be my favourite song with lyrics in any supergiant game

[faint hare]

i had never to return and in the flame in my spotify playlist before i even played the game lol

[faint hare]

i still dont know who to appoint ;-;

plus idek if im gonna be able to do it lol since ||oralech|| has like 170 pyre life

and last time i went against him his ai was a p a i n

[trail talon]

all i can say is to do the best you can and make a decision based on the outcome. (any more than that would be a major spoiler)

[faint hare]

but i just dont know what to do

i just dont know if i can pick between volfred and fae

this game is just

😭

[trail talon]

honestly, flip a coin and go with that. if the outcome makes you unhappy, go with the other possibility

[deft quail]

Volfred be like: "Do you take me for a sap?"

Me: "Yes"

[faint hare]

ok i think im gonna try to liberate volfred ;-;

since just

my thoughts with it are yes i could liberate fae, but then i detach her from the fate that she just made a solid relationship with, and if i liberated her i had the point of she could be with the nightwings again but they all have lives to get back to, she might just be left alone again, which i dont want.

so i think im liberating volfred today ;-; or at least gonna try

so ill go do that now

ill let yall know how it goes

[untold quartz]

Apropos of nothing being discussed in here, I am spray painting some boards for a project, and Thrash Pack came on shuffle on my headphones while I was spraying a coat

Suddenly I feel like a Badass Punk Girl(tm) 🤣

(I am not remotely a Badass Punk Girl 😅 )

[faint hare]

ITS DONE

😭

I JUST FINISHED THE CREDITS

IT WAS JUST PERFECT

THE SONG

THE ART

JUST

AAAAAA

[deft quail]

who'd you liberate

[faint hare]

||oralech||

it felt right

[deft quail]

rest in peace || ||

[faint hare]

lmao

god i love this game

its so good

but just

it was so good

subtracting the bit where i had to restart the final rite

but other than that

perfect ending

i need to do another run with different people getting liberated since im curious abt a few

and like ||in fae and jodi's epilogue bits i felt really bad for separating them so next run im either liberating both or neither ;-;||

||and iggy's left open a nice bit if he's on the same side as jodi ngl||

is there any official art of fikani(i think thats her name right??) actually??

outside of the lil face when you hover the name

and im assuming ||bound together|| changes on who you liberate and whatnot??

since that song was just perfect

[deft quail]

Yes

[faint hare]

nice

and just the scrolling image for the credits i just... it was great ;-;

i love this game

who needs hades when i have basketball

[stiff tangle]

One of us, one of us

[faint hare]

but man i think pyre takes the spot of favorite sgg game since i just have such an emotional connection to the characters

while transistor i was just like "this is super cool"

so pyre is now my favorite :3

and now is when i join the rite club lol

[prime dirge]

This is the correct reaction to finishing Pyre

[untold quartz]

There's no official art of Fikani outside of the little tooltip portrait, but I did make an edit of it years back that at least scaled it up, put it on a Harp raiment body and added in the rest of her hair etc.

I can't share images in this channel but I can toss it into Fanworks if you like 😅

[faint hare]

:0 if you would please 👉 👈

[untold quartz]

Done 💕

[young folio]

its not exactly fikani, but in the july 2018 supergiant newsletter some early concept art of harps was featured and one of them shares fikani's face, so i assume fikani is just that concept art repurposed

[faint hare]

oooo neat :3

when fikani was mentioned in the epilogue for hedwyn i looked at the tooltip and went 😳

so i was curious lol

[faint hare]

||oralechs|| theme is just 😩 ngl

like i hear it and i just get terrified in context of pyre lol

[timid silo]

The fact that it's called Will of the Scribes is just... so sad

I mean, it's probably true (Tariq titles these things and I defer to Tariq's judgement in these matters) and nobody asked him to be the harbinger of the end of an age...

[faint hare]

also i better not be the only one that thinks ||oralech|| is hot >_>

[timid silo]

(I shrug and dozens of my own fanart fall off, let alone other people's work I've hoarded) WHAT

[faint hare]

like just look at him

when i first saw him i just went 😳

but then again i do that alot with sgg games

[timid silo]

I am looking respectfully

[scenic kiln]

hmm, who would we do a or emote for from Pyre...?

or is that just ?

[faint hare]

i think one of the moontouched girl makes sense :3

ive decided to put will of the scribes on loop for the next few hours

[trail talon]

i love will of the scribes: i’m of the opinion that it’s a great example of music contributing to the story

[supple solar]

fikani is so pretty

not to be gay but oh my god oh my jesus

[supple solar]

sir why are you in my wagon 😳

will of the scribes is an amazing piece

that immediately sets the mood

Darren is super good at conveying super specific but very understandable feelings through music

other examples of this I can think of, Old Friends from Transistor

[prime dirge]

The most what moment I remember in Pyre is...||AJ tormenting us in our sleep||. We don't see his actual face freaking out, but the desperation in the voice was enough for me to picture that.

It wouldn't work as an emote, but it's the only moment I remember.

Other chars that I can see staring in awe are (but we have the emote already) and Kae. But we never saw them o_0-ing us, dangit

[scenic kiln]

that's true, we do already have

[prime dirge]

We could use Brighton's smol pic though. But then only us would know him, unlike Zag's or Red's

Ah. Also Gilman and Deluge are somewhat prone to emotion. Those could work, but we get Brighton's problem too

[scenic kiln]

plus I'm not sure how well :gilmanlook: would convey, with only one eye (it would probably end up very similar to )

[prime dirge]

Wait really? I thought Will of the Scribes was the theme of "||talking with Volfred and Tariq after a lib rite, pondering who to yeet next, taking in the horizon and the oppressive feeling of 'maybe the Plan fails' and 'we def won't all be getting back up'"||
It feels just right to picture the Reader in the Wagon after a lib rite, looking at the full-in-trinkets but emptier-in-exiles overview, looking at the broken bell and Hedwyn's (former) cookware. It's raining and cloudy. Wagon's emptier but the Plan is a little bit more full.

^That's why it took me by surprise to see that Will is Or's theme

:gilmandelugelook:

[scenic kiln]

pfft

both of them in one emote?

[prime dirge]

It's my best idea. It's funny, but barely functional

[untold quartz]

I mean, technically Path to Glory is hecking Lendel's theme 🙄

I've seen the theory that it really functions as the music for your first real Rite against an opponent, which explains why such a trash fire gets such an exciting, catchy jam for his theme

[prime dirge]

Does not compute, aye

[trail talon]

regarding this: you may be thinking of Time Passes? or Downriver, perhaps.
Will of the Scribes is great for the story and I've given it way too much thought
You first hear it ||when Volfred tells you about the Original Nightwings of which he was a part, and how they fell apart.|| It's the acoustic version of the song, of course, and it has the perfect levels of melancholy and wistfulness with which you might ||explore fond and painful memories||
||When Oralech first shows up is when you hear the full, bass-boosted (?) version of the song, and here's the awesomeness about it: it's the same song as the one that played while you talked with Volfred of the past, so all the melancholy and wistfulness is still there. But NOW there's an aggressive bass layered on top, which adds a powerful layer of anger to the song. And with the addition of that bass, the song perfectly captures the complexity of Oralech as a character as well as his conflicting emotions|| It's super well done, really

[trail talon]

i feel like this is true, honestly. lendel isn't the most distinctive character in the downside either: he's just the sort of person you expect to be fighting, and it's a surprise when your other adversaries turn out not to be like him

[untold quartz]

Lendel is the mundaneness of everyday evil, as unpleasant as he is basic. 😅

[faint hare]

ik its a bit unrelated but still so does the AI for pyre just deadass do actions impossible for us to execute??

[untold quartz]

Not flawed-yet-sympathetic like Barker or Iggy, not terrifyingly dangerous like Tam or Udmildhe, just... unpleasant. Meh.

[faint hare]

like the throw -> jump -> catch to get full damage plunge

and its not like its picked up off of the ground

they pick it up before that since they jumped almost the same frame it was thrown

since ive also seen swapping during the cast anim and i try it and i cant

so like, is the AI just unfair lol

[faint hare]

his vendetta against tizo is funny tho

[untold quartz]

https://youtu.be/VQ5Sr9l7xnM same energy

[faint hare]

well at least tizo feels a bit of remorse :<

[deft quail]

I dont think ive ever seen this. Maybe im not understanding correctly but it seems like it would be the same as jumping and plunging.

[untold quartz]

Just the idea of this grown man being that angry at a smol potentially lethal fluff is very funny to me

Sir, please calm yourself

[faint hare]

like.... hhh i dont have a clip or anything but like they essentially skip the rest of the animation and cut strait to jumping so the follow the same arc as the throw and at the same speed too so i physically cant stop it

and it happened too many times >_>

same with just swapping at the most impossible times since afaik you cant swap during a cast animation but the AI can

[deft quail]

So they throw the orb than immediately jump to catch it and than plunge?

[deft quail]

Are they switching during the cast windup? Or while the casting animation is happening?

[faint hare]

during the animation

i found this happening a lot on standard with the harder AI titan star

[deft quail]

Well there is a titan star, ||Yslach|| I believe that makes their reactions faster. That could be it.

[faint hare]

ahh maybe

titan stars being bs i see >_>

but if i want that steam achievement i need to win a rite with all of em active ;-;

[scenic kiln]

|| the first rite against Deluge & co. is great for that ||

[faint hare]

truuuuuee or i can do a whole run without losing with it on to really flex

[scenic kiln]

Tried that on TN mode

it's really hard

that was the only rite I've won so far

[vestal bluff]

Oh yeah, True Nightwings, All Titan Stars, All The Time is the way it was meant to be played

imo

[prime dirge]

Will and Passes have the same...feel? Mood? to me. Heck, it's these two I sought first among the 79 tracks.
The way I feel those two, Passes is a bit more hopeful, as we're looking at the road ahead; Will is more...melancholic? More focused on the task at hand and also reminds me of that earlier drawing of robe-clad Jodi and Rukey, with Hedwyn having a foot over the Nightwing sigil/emblem.

I don't think of Or when listening to Will
Maybe that's what I get for playing without sound sometimes.
What I felt the most during the first encounter with him was ||"JODI COME BACK HALP ME" and "I stand where you used to do so and you have every reason to feel angry at me taking the Nighwing from you ||

Didn't pay much attention to the music right there. But your analysis of Will's role is rather thorough and helpful. I wouldn't have noticed it on my own

[trail talon]

playing pyre without sound???

[jagged pebble]

illegal

[trail talon]

it really struck me on the replay, and it’s super amazing. this might be part of why pyre has my favourite soundtrack: the songs tie in so well with the story and the characters

[prime dirge]

I sometimes played on low or no volume. I did listen to many of the tracks in the proper setting, but in my defense it's unreasonable to expect tracks with such significance and flair on every game

(Won't make this mistake on Game 5)

[trail talon]

i used to do the same thing before i got a laptop that wasn’t a five year old hand-me-down and a pair of headphones. the desktop my sister and i shared was in the kitchen and i didn’t want to disturb anyone

thankfully i could enjoy supergiant’s games with full sound

[prime dirge]

Hades' and Bastion's enhances the experience, and I knew that. So I should have tried to fix my audio before every session

Even if Hades' is not as easy to listen during the day, it's a very good fit for wrecking the underworld

But I just wanted to know what happens next 😦
Thus was my demise

[supple solar]

TI'ZO, SON OF HA'UB!

SKREEEE-HA!!! (LENDEL, SON OF A -)

But

Pyre's soundtrack was the one that immediately captured me

the moment i turned Pyre on, seeing the aesthetics and art style and the lantern in the dialogue box, I was already caught, and the moment I heard Surviving Exile I knew this game was made for me

[stiff tangle]

wow we had the exact same experience

i was like 'wow its called pyre and the title screen is crackling'

[bright surge]

Have anyone ever lost a liberation rite on purpose just for the sake of seeing one of your enemies that you empathized with free

[timid silo]

Not me but I know it's a thing! Mostly for the Fate...

[karmic whale]

I was too hyper competitive to lose a liberation rite

Just looked up what happened when you lost a liberation right

[bright surge]

I dont think any other rite would deserved it

[faint hare]

tfw you played pyre much more than the 4.3 hours steam tells you since you were offline for like at least 10 hours

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite is live! Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[plush goblet]

Starting a new campaign in Pyre. holds breath

[timid silo]

Ooooooh

[plush goblet]

🔥 I'm not ready lol

[timid silo]

do it for him

[prime dirge]

Do it for the outcomes you didn't see the last time

And the dialog. I got a very cute Rukey-Gilman scene near the end
which I only got to see since I took a while to liberate them, so there's def new content awaiting for you

[plush goblet]

You right lol.

[untold quartz]

Rukey and Gilman's friendship is so charming

trivia point, there are just a few pairs of characters in the game who call each other "kindred spirits" at some point, and Rukey and Gilman are on that shortlist

(it seems to be an arc word, the Scribes themselves reference it in the Book: Yet, for each danger which we faced, for every failed ambush by Arch, we met with gentle souls and kindred spirits in the Downside, who deserved more than to fade from memory within this land.)

The others are ||Pam and Bertrude, Sandra and the Reader, and Volfred and Oralech||, for the record.