#transistor | Supergiant Games | Page 10

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:11 PM

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ah ok

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:14 PM

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how well does it work with stealthed mans

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:14 PM

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god, men were the worst on my first playthrough

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 7:15 PM

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...I just used Ping and the Men went down easy

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Very well

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I'll look up my build

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 7:16 PM

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It's been years since I've played but I remember being confused as to why the late game enemies were so easy

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Yeah

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:16 PM

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i was just frantically switching half the men against each other

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Haha I tried that too

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But it's soooo slow

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 7:17 PM

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@full peak I just read that line without understanding the context and my gosh was that an odd thing to read until my brain started working

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:17 PM

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lol

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:19 PM

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a good man strat is to wait until one unstealths and then turn into some dumb combo

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:19 PM

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thats what i do

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how many playthroughs did it take you to get all achievements, for those of you who did?

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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3-5 i think? i just kept playing though, so idk

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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my 1st playthrough was in 2015, but i barely got any achievements, and after a while i uninstalled the game

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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once you get that 10 acheivement limiter, your possibilities open up

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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then i picked it back up this year, played once then recoursed

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:21 PM

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you can play with only the fun limiters

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:22 PM

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What are your dumb combos ? Would love to try new ones

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void() + crash() then spam tap() + purge()

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if enemy not dead then ping() + jaunt() in recovery

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void() in passive

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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void crash is probably the best use of void

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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is it?

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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void(crash purge), maybe

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:25 PM

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i see

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But purge is capped right ?

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yeah

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It only does so much damage

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:25 PM

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if you can get your voids out irl then you have more dmg in turn

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yeah but i think purge also slows

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:25 PM

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Though i never tried with void

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i think it gets capped anyway

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even if you do something like void() + purge() then purge()

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2nd purge gets capped

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Yup

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:28 PM

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if I'm using something out of turn to inflict debuff, i want to inflict slowness, so that i have more time to inflict more debuff

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:28 PM

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I never seriously tried anything outside of turns

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Except for jaunt haha

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:29 PM

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if you run switch on something you dont have to turn at all

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:29 PM

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in my first playthrough i was dumb and didnt use turn much

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That must've been sooooo hard

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it was

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:30 PM

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there's viable out of turn strats, but you need to learn to turn, especially if you disable emergency turn

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:30 PM

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I always combo'd load in so I was forced to

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offtopic() but i really wish someone sold red's ring online :<

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i'd buy in a heartbeat

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actually any sgg ring would be awesome

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:31 PM

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which ring?

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:31 PM

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the one with the triangle and red center piece

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:31 PM

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wouldnt it be nicer if you commision a jeweler and then you're the only one with that ring?

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:32 PM

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cosplayers have done it already

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Ah i've never completed transistor on this account, but at the end of the game you get the functions twice, right ?

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but eh

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you can

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I'm with cake, that'd be dope

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you still choose them in ng+ tho

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Okay

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:33 PM

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you get functions twice after a certain level, dunno if it has anything to do with ng+

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can you get a twice func in first through using limiters

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:33 PM

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oh

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i didnt know

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Then i believe my dumb combo was something like void+crash/get , load+load/? , crash+cull/stealth

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:35 PM

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i never understood get. why would i want my enemies that deal touch damage to be closer to me?

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:35 PM

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ikr

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And for the stealth men I think that if I sent them airborne they would run from the packet so I just voided them and send the packets flying

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i always used it as passive or not at all

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Well get was situational

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:35 PM

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what does get passive do?

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Really efficient against numerous ennemies and protected cells but useless when facing one ennemy

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brings cells closer to you

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useful for youngladies

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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and cheerleaders i guess

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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yup

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Yeah

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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i let the youngladies come to me

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Bad cells when numerous are hell to dodge

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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like in that big worm boss

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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The spine ?

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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i have more trouble with spine than i do with royce tbh

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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See the interest of load ?

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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but load also breaks cover

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id rather have stealth

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:37 PM

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It just goes sblap

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And zveryone dead

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Well stealth is good if you use something like cull

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But I find it slows the game too much as an active

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Just my preference really

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Im ok with slowing down if it gets those dogs off me

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Those damn dogs

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it does, but i used it as backup if tap got overloaded

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Hated 'em too

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indeed

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:39 PM

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when those dogs get sneaky they get as dangerous as men

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Their 2.0 version ho lord

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And they pack quite a punch

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i hate their bark noise

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its like, deep and scary

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Transistor turned dogs into the ultimate ennemies of mankind

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Maybe sgg is evil after all volfredthink

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 7:42 PM

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and somehow help just isnt as good

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:42 PM

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fun fact, dogs actually kill lots of people a year

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more than you would expect

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sgg was just too woke

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Read something about wolves killing about 130 sheeps in denmark since the beginning of this year, then a reminder that dogs usually kill thousands a year

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This is offtopic but dogs in most videogames are usually painful ennemies to deal with

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someone make a video essay about evil dogs in videogames

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"Small hitbox, the beginning"

foggy fable Aug 12, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Number one bite breed in America is the dachshund. It makes sense when you learn that they were bred to hunt badgers out of their holes.

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 7:46 PM

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luna tho

foggy fable Aug 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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LUNAAAA

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Luna is a robot

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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hfjfjfh all fetches are ~~queens~~ robots

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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roboqueens

foggy fable Aug 12, 2018, 7:48 PM

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If it barks it’s a bot

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:48 PM

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lol

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Having worked with dogs for several years, I'm quite over them

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Probably a very unpopular opinion but bluhhh... At least Fetches look cool?

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:49 PM

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im just gonna say it

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cat > dog

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Are fetches a breed ?

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owning luna irl would be cool tho

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utopian future

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 7:51 PM

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fetches are process

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:51 PM

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living in cloudbank pre-process would be my dream tbh

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Ha k that's how they're named ig

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I love how they implied the structure of the city and its architecture could change day to day

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ikr

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i think royce said it changed with the seasons

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 7:54 PM

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I mean there are polls to change the sky's color

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and the weather

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:54 PM

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And the gold bank or something like that

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 7:54 PM

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not really sure seasons matter much with that

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Oh yeah you vote for a bridge at some point

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ok serious question here

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:55 PM

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i like thinking of the "seasons" as in like... you know how fashion works, where people are like "this season, houndstooth is IN!"

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:55 PM

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light precipitation or placid snowfall?

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 7:55 PM

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OH GOOD IDEA

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:55 PM

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And bam whole city is houndstooth

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:56 PM

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but also there's some arbitrary weather consensus...es based on what the season ought to be according to the majority

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i am all about the light precipitation

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:56 PM

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same

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But they never show what happens outside of cloudbank

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i wonder what the other cities look like

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 7:57 PM

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i mean...transistors only abt red and boxer

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i dont think we need the info

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:58 PM

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my understanding is that outside cloudbank there may very well be...... nothing

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that's the world

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Yep

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:58 PM

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kind of a dark city situation, if you've ever seen that film

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Or like poor plebes

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And desert

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:58 PM

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(which is amazing and iirc greg mentioned once that it helped influence transistor? don't quote me on that)

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I disagree, transistor is about way more than just red and boxer, they just leave it quite vague and very much for asking questions about the world and what it all means

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I mean cloudbank is an utopia in itself

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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i love the idea of cloudbank being a world unto itself

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I think grant says that

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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with all the unnerving implications thereof

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Or something along these lines

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It's never explicitely said what the country side may be ?

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And what bothers about cloudbank being one city is that they alone may have ruined the entire world

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i always interpreted it as the world inside the transistor

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:02 PM

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oh yeah. lmao in my view the world totally ended there.

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:02 PM

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the afterlife

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:02 PM

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but clearly it's not the end for them!

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:03 PM

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I hope they're soulmates

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Do the other people "functions" live inside the transistor or were they too damaged for that ?

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:05 PM

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i do like to imagine that wherever red and boxer ended up, the others are there too

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Yeah

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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yes!!

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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could be a little complicated with the camerata present too, but if you're gonna hash out your differences, the country seems like a not so bad place to do so 😌

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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as far as I can remember, you can only hear the people you were close to from the outside of the transistor right? or that you personally knew or something?

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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boxer punches royce so hard hes stuck alone in the country 2

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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or was that a fan theory, it's blurring together now

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:06 PM

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so royce's theory goes, anyway

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MKLDS

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kam no

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

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its ok his other friends will spon join him uou

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Yeah but the whole world is dead and they probably have loved ones so they might hold grudges toward the camerata

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

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boxer would totally be like HEY ROYCE YOU WANNA SEE WHAT'S BEYOND THE COUNTRY

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:07 PM

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HFJFNVNFB
royce: yes! i love the, the exploratiin, the kno-
(gets punched)

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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And they may be immortal

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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entirely possible!!!

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:08 PM

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"We gonn punch your sorry buttocks (more kid friendly) for the next 100 years royce, that's purgatory for you"

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:09 PM

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i've poked around the idea before of the country being kind of... unspoiled ground on which something new can be built

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:10 PM

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-Ho snap what's that ?
-My old man called it grass.

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If that's the case they're dead

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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pretty sure when you get impaled on a giant sword you're dead

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I kinda always took it as that

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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and yet...

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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That too

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But they may live inside a simulation too

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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yeah, I always found that theory cool, and terrifying

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Like that episode from adventure time

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shivers

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May live in space too

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Where cloudbank could be the whole world

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:14 PM

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and indeed the idea of a simulation raises further questions--a simulation of what? begun by whom? are the citizens of cloudbank people or are they data? and does it even matter to them, since this is their reality? 😌

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Stahp

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:15 PM

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exactly

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so many questions

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:16 PM

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haha, and that is partly why i think having the narrower focus of red and boxer's relationship is so important to the narrative

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:16 PM

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That's why I never chose to restore on bastion, no closure

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:17 PM

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gives you something to anchor you so you're not floating in a sea of questions

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Kinda looks like the good place (beginning of s1) in this regard

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Everything you need and leisure and changes to suit you

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:20 PM

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i wanna live in cloudbank........

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:21 PM

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oh good place au??????

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@spring plover look at this when u wake up

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:22 PM

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I should go to sleep, i'm definitely gonna be tired in the morning 😑 it's good to finally talk about those excellent games squirtyay
G'night ppl !

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:22 PM

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gn!!!

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:22 PM

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gently disregards suggestions that cloudbank has really serious problems under the surface, i wanna live that digital gatsby life

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:22 PM

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hfnfkfmgj YES

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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you want to die in your digital pool?

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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i cant habdle that kinda constant change but id do it for the style....the ATTITUDE

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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cloudbank is SO like... cyber-jazz age to me and i want to roll myself up in it like a carpet

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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where's the resurrection button I need to fix that error

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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It looked really packed tho

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I hate that

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:24 PM

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just live closer to royce

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:24 PM

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yeah, he needed to get work done so he moved to an uninhabited frickin island lmfao

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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PEOPLE ON ROYCE ISLAND
-royce
-xel

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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this island looks promising

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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i laughed when i realized royce legit put a body of water, a field, a barebones town, and a forest between cloudbank and the bracket residence

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:26 PM

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(royce voice) halo halo welcome to my caeve

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 8:27 PM

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Royce is the Grinch confirmed?

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 8:29 PM

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bfjvnvnvnvb

full peak Aug 12, 2018, 8:43 PM

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if the country is so good why isnt there any country 2

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👀

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Cause the sequal is called No Country for Old Men

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Weirdly enough

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:00 PM

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i should really write my transistor theory down somewhere

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the idea is that boxer's voice in the sword is just his trace, a simulation of the man.

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 9:02 PM

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nononono don't do that to my heart

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do write it down bUT THAT HURTS

rare moth Aug 12, 2018, 9:03 PM

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:no:

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:03 PM

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when red goes to country she decides to face a bitter truth rather than live a lie

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in recursion, you play as red's trace, because the real red is in the country

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(and of course, you play as red's trace's trace, and so on)

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:05 PM

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It's just Transistors all the way down

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 9:05 PM

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aaaaaa

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 9:06 PM

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well alright I didn't need a heart anyways

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:07 PM

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I would say you didn't read the right books growing up if that's the case but it sounds botu hearthless and makes me question said books

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:09 PM

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within the context of cloudbank, it's interesting to consider the difference between reality and simulation

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something's simulated, because of all the computer terminology, and different theories try to determine what that is

frigid grove Aug 12, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I mean, at the end of transistor was it ever even possible to get people back? So I wouldnt want to stay there alone either

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:12 PM

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https://screenshots.firefox.com/sN33RVkMvb46Mviv/www.google.com could just hang out with man forever

Firefox Screenshots

transistor man - Google Search

From google.com

jolly radish Aug 12, 2018, 9:12 PM

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what a handsome boy

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:14 PM

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what a power pose

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how has no one dressed up as this character

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Most people have faces which might prove to be an issue for Man up there

dire pollen Aug 12, 2018, 9:17 PM

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not gonna lie, feel like that hair would be a mission to do accurately

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that too

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:17 PM

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The main character from Dead Cells? Now we're talking

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:24 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456936596227358720/478312674023964674/unknown.png

near dew Aug 12, 2018, 9:26 PM

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JFHFGJFHKGHFGJ

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I was just going to set my head on fire

calm jackal Aug 12, 2018, 9:28 PM

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gotta use some ammonium so the fire turns green

slow ridge Aug 12, 2018, 9:28 PM

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See?

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All works out

languid trail Aug 12, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Wait is that suggesting we stick our heads into tumbleweeds?

calm jackal Aug 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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yes absolutely

languid trail Aug 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Oh okay 👌

calm jackal Aug 13, 2018, 12:15 AM

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you also gotta strap a fog machine to your head

slow ridge Aug 13, 2018, 12:23 AM

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I've been hit in the head with "And the Ladies of the Club", a lather large book hard enough I blacked out and don't recall hitting the floor. Bring on the fog machine, I got this.

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:18 AM

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@slow ridge Dead Cells is awesomeee!

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@calm jackal OH....MY....GOSH. I NEVER, EVER, thought about Resurrection Mode like that before, that's brilliant!! MY MIND IS BLOWN!!!!!!

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Oh damn

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I remember asking my friend if Boxer in the Transistor is his actual consciousness or if it's just a simulation of him and the reason why Red killed herself at the end

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But the latter is way too depressing;;

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:22 AM

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I think it's his real soul!

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Well it better be

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:23 AM

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(Personally I don't buy the whole Cloudbank is virtual thing, not at all!)

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Yes!!!

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Also apparently Red hums Paper Boats when there's no music (as well as after Royce's fight) & that's probably because that's the song she wrote for herself and Booker and she constantly hums it to remind him that she will find him no matter what

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But what if she wrote the song about them and meant to debut it at her next concert as a surprise to Boxer

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:26 AM

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AWWWWWW

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:26 AM

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But she never got a chance too she just tries to hum it to him during the game

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:26 AM

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that would be amazing

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nooooooooooooo stop MY HEART!

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no no no!

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:27 AM

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And at the end, when they reunite she can finally sing it to him

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haha

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I feel like that theory goes well with the one about how Boxer was planning to propose to Red after the concert but also didn't get a chance to & she found the ring in his pocket;;

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:30 AM

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I've never heard that theory before!!! 🤔 🤔 🤔 heyred

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...I LOVE IT!!!! 😍 😍 😍 😍 😍

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oh my gosh it's so sweet.

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:33 AM

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Yeah! I heard that one from someone in here. It's so bittersweet but at least they're together in the end 😭

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 6:33 AM

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OMG I looooooooooove it

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I have a thingamajig to add about this but it's 1:30 a.m. here, gotta go for now, but I'll be back tomorrow!

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Have a good morning/day/afternoon/night. Eggmil! 👋 ☺

hollow sable Aug 13, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Aw, you too! Nice talking to ya transistor

viral token Aug 13, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Great talking to you, as well! 😄 😄

echo sedge Aug 13, 2018, 8:00 AM

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Umm what's the difference between being "real" and a simulation? We're all a simulation of ourselves using some particle magic. I suppose that there's nothing in Transistor just "roleplaying" as the absorbed people without actually believing it's them. I don't know how it works in Cloudbank, but I don't really believe in this soul/consciousness thing anymore, they're just an illusion we create in our brain. If they froze you, made a perfect copy of you, and then revived the copy and destroyed the original, no real change would be done.

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 8:55 AM

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personally my beef with the simulation theory is when people say "it's just a simulation", or "it's just the inside of a computer", as if that reduces the reality of it somehow. ultimately there's not a whole lot of difference between theories if you say it's a real place versus being inside a computer! it's more about how people view it, how hopeless they feel the situation is, or what they think of the outcome. whether "people" died or programs just got deleted, etc.

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also i don't personally like theories that apply programming or computer logic whole-cloth to Transistor's world - I think I tend to view the comp sci references more as...well...references, that, if you know what they refer to, give you some idea of how they function, rather than being literal denotations of What Everyone Is

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oh! yeah another thing about simulation theories is that they tend to disregard the fact that Transistor is as much a social commentary as it is a fun cyberpunk scifi action rpg

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because if they aren't "people" then it's not as immediately relevant to social issues in the real world

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you can just say "oh it's just a representation of a computer! that's why everything is like that" instead of examining the societal parallels and the way that Cloudbank plays off of, for example, silicon valley futurism, the concept of democracy, and the way we idealize technological advancement

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(of course, none of that is to say that people who enjoy Transistor as a scifi action rpg only, or who really prefer it to be a simulation or a computer program are wrong! this is my personal preference because i'm a social science nerd :P)

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 9:50 AM

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What is reality even? Why can you make a distinction about things which are real and things which aren't? The only thing you can do is to observe, and induce existence from that.
Is the question "are we all in a computer simulation" even a physical question if there's no difference between yes and no? So why would being in a simulation be something that makes things unreal? (I guess I'm reformulating here what you said)
So in that regard I'd think of Cloudbank. Yes, we know "it can be just a simulation" (in some way), but that doesn't make it less real, as the people in it act and think like people.

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And yeah, the programming and computer references seem to be more thematic rather then "real".

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Also I think "San Junipero" (the Black Mirror episode) analyses the question "Are people in a simulation real" somewhat nicely too.

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(San Junipero is more of an emotional story then an analytical one, but I feel like this question is more of an emotional then an analytical one)

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 9:57 AM

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If there is social commentary it's weak, ohmagad we can't control the technology we've created/discovered we're doooooomed, oh no the power is concentrated in the hands of a few we're doooooooomed, these tropes have been explored through and through and were even used in bastion (let's secretly build an a bomb oh no it backfired), transistor like someone said earlier is really centered around the relationship red-boxer, not that nothing else matters but in doesn't matter much

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:01 AM

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I mean...I'd say the commentary is a little deeper than that but you're welcome to that

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:03 AM

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I'm not sure that's the social commentary there, I would rather say that it's: We should not leave our technological powers in the hands of the few, even if they have good intentions. The few cannot oversee what results the tech will have, but together we might.

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I mean, Cloudbank is clearly technological, so we must have gotten there somehow, and it's portrayed as a good city.

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I guess if I reread your comment you did say something like that, sorry.

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:06 AM

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But this is what most people would get (dangers of technology and concentration of powers) if they were to seek social commentary. I'm fine with all the theories but saying this game has a somewhat strong social commentary, no. I mean just getting informed about even your city or region should get you further than transistor should ever do.

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:09 AM

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What do you think has a strong social commentary then? To me, getting really informed about your city or region is quite a high bar to set, especially considering the amount of historical information you can get about your city or region. Is the density of social commentary similar?

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maybe I'm just ignorant, I don't have the background to make any claims here I guess.

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Meant that as getting informed day to day and about recent history, economy, geography (since there are a lot of americans here don't really think going thousands of years back useful or relevant). And there is social commentary to draw from that but the most important part is trying to analize and build criticism about what's been done, what's done today and what will be done today. Social commentary is nice and all but commentary for commentary is just useless, if you confront yourself to a real situation, close to you well you kinda understand that if you don't want things to go a way you disagree with you need to act. That's why to me drawing social commentary from transistor, is, at best (I don't mean that to hurt anyone but this is an opinion on which I won't change my mind) useless.

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Depending on your answer we may have to go to #off-topic-discussion

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:21 AM

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I don't think the two are unrelated tho, or that like...getting involved in current events means you can't enjoy or analyze media

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It's not like everyone has a sheet that says "play transistor or get involved in local goverment: choose a life path"

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Media can inspire people who might've otherwise been apathetic or ignorant to seek out or create change

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It provides a different perspective from which to see the world

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Regardless of what Transistor "actually" says, which is in itself kinda silly to say, people will read it differently and take away different things

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None of which is trying to change your mind btw, I understand you're gonna stick to your guns and I'm not trying to start a fight haha

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:28 AM

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I understand but drawing social commentary from transistor, meh the words seem too strong for me. And on a lot of matters being neutral when the information is given easily looks a lot like being complacent, which is a frustation to me.

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:28 AM

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I mean, I think I agree with what venhediss is saying, but I also feel like there is more to transistor which I haven't really had the time in my current mindset to explore (but I could certainly be wrong; I played it when I was young and am replaying it now). Regardless, I disagree with the idea that a social commentary in media is useless. You could argue that transistor's social commentary is useless, but there certainly is media whose social commentary is useful, for instance to open people up to new ideas.

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:29 AM

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Don't wanna start a fight either but I know mediterranean culture clashes a lot with american one haha

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:29 AM

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Ok, let me say it like this: you can think the social commentary in Transistor is bad while also not thinking it's useless

pseudo pulsar Aug 13, 2018, 10:30 AM

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i don't think you should be afraid of an argument

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:30 AM

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No media is without context, so even poorly executed media offers a glimpse into the time in which it was made

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the time and the culture

pseudo pulsar Aug 13, 2018, 10:30 AM

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nobody wants a fight, so i think you can argue well, right?

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:30 AM

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i should say

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There's a debate, and then there's talking in circles, Arccc 😂

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if two people who've already made up their minds are just snapping at each other, it doesn't really go anywhere

pseudo pulsar Aug 13, 2018, 10:31 AM

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hmm

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:31 AM

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It's good for the audience though!

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might make someone else think

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we all have different backgrounds and it's good we can come to Transistor with different perspectives

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like I said I view it as coming out of a very specific like...techno-utopian silicon valley idealism

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Because, you know, that's where SGG works and lives

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they're surrounded by that stuff

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but from a different lens it can seem toothless and frustrating

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:35 AM

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I mean, games like this war of mine may make you want to inform yourself on current or past events but transistor not so much, not a lot of people will be drawn to that.

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But it may have drawn some people into the world of sci fi and cyber punk, where social commentary is often the point of the work

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:37 AM

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it could even convince someone like you to make what you think is a better social commentary!

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media's cool like that. you can just, keep making it

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transistor's produced a lot of thinkpieces so i don't think it's necessarily right to say nobody is thinking about it or inspired by it

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i mean look at the fallout around detroit: become human

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TERRIBLE social commentary

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awful

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:38 AM

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Haha

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:38 AM

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it's produced a ton of good writing about why it's terrible though!

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lots of youtube videos and essays

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probably a chapter in a book somewhere down the road

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and someone in the future might hold onto that kernel of an idea and do something impactful with it

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i'm not defending dbh it's. terrible

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but, you know.

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:43 AM

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The thing that bugs me is that while it may make material for a lot of good articles, vids and all, the impact irl is neglectful.
I've got quite a few friends from syria, which kinda explains why I'm so frustated. Also racism is getting worst where I live and I ain't white and most of my friends aren't sooooo... it'd be nice to have some real change you know. I'm definitely frustrated sorry about that 😂

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:43 AM

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no i mean, like i say that's valid! i don't think transistor has a lot to say about that specifically which is, like

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yeah, no one piece of media can address every social ill happening in the present day

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this war of mine and transistor aren't trying to do the same thing but that doesn't mean that every piece of media that's made has a moral imperative to be about the same set of issues

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there's more than one social to be commentaried

dire pollen Aug 13, 2018, 10:45 AM

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wow this has been so cool to read, I love how one game can go so far when people start to think on it and ask questions which can then lead to asking questions about our own world and the people and things that happen here

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and I think this is one of the first times online I've seen people chill enough to just debate/discuss a topic from different viewpoints and be okay with it, it's great I love it

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Yeah, agreed. I'd certainly like to see more media (or games) about racism and the horrors of war(for the victims), but that doesn't mean that other topics cannot be talked about (there are certainly other topics I'd like to see more of, things like gender, climate change, injustices in our world).

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:48 AM

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and different people have different ways of addressing the ills in their world. even for people directly affected by war, hatred, poverty, etc, sometimes art is the way they express themselves, rather than involvement in organizations or governments or protests

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i know if i made a game that was trying to say something i wouldn't make it about racism, or war, or technology, i'd make it about things that i've lived with and that affect me because that's what i know and feel like i want to convey

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climate change game...i can't actually think of a climate change game off the top of my head

dire pollen Aug 13, 2018, 10:53 AM

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good point, I also feel like art (in all its numerous forms) can get past some barriers more easily than other things can, if that makes sense? like someone who is say, prejudiced towards asians might stay away from consuming any news that shows good things about them, but may like an artist/art piece who has a strong point of view regarding them and get the person to actually think and ask questions
art can seem more of a passive and less practical approach, but I shudder to think what this world would be without any art or inspirational sorts of creations

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:55 AM

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I don't really know any climate change games either (or even any general art that's not a documentary or just descriptive in some other manner, but I'm somewhat ignorant with respect to art), whilst I think it's one of the largest troubles mankind as a whole is facing currently. I'd be interested in an artistic response to that.

pseudo pulsar Aug 13, 2018, 10:56 AM

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little inferno maybe

bitter phoenix Aug 13, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Yeah, art is good at breaking barriers, or suggesting concepts without pushing them too much.

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Hmm maybe. I feel like Little Inferno is more a criticism of consumer society in general, rather then just about climate change.

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but it's been a while since I've last played it

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anyway if we want to discuss climate change games further we should probably move to #off-topic-discussion I think

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:59 AM

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probably a good idea, yeah!

languid trail Aug 13, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I wonder how the devs feel if they read all this

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in general, not the present topic

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like if they have to keep themselves from jumping in to talk about each topic or if they just enjoy the show

frigid grove Aug 13, 2018, 5:40 PM

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cuppShrug

rare moth Aug 13, 2018, 5:41 PM

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i imagine theyre knife catting

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📎 smug_knife_cat.jpg

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reading thru with that expression exactly

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Making that cael banhammer shiny

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:23 PM

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@spring plover sorry i know this is off topic but, why is detroit become human bad? i watched a playthrough of it and am just curious

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no spoilerino for detroit become human plz

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also i found all those messages pretty interesting, haha it was a fun read to see the different perspectives

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im planning to play it

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:24 PM

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No spoilers :P

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It uses extremely charged imagery related to slavery and the holocaust in ways that are offensive or don't make sense

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Also its conception of how racism works is just...not correct lol

slow ridge Aug 13, 2018, 10:25 PM

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David Cage is a writer who needs to be better to be at the helm of a game studio, to be as kind as possible

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:25 PM

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Oh yeah David Cage is also kinda terrible

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Just give him a google

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

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ohhh, i wasnt that focussed on the playthrough i was watching

spring plover Aug 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

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sorry this is probably off-topic

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Let's move :')

full peak Aug 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

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yep

jolly radish Aug 13, 2018, 10:38 PM

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david cage is a complete hack lmao

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OH OOPS wrong channel

slow ridge Aug 13, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I mean, it could be it's own channel

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David Cage, bigger hack than smoking a carton of unfiltered marlboros

inland mirage Aug 14, 2018, 1:04 AM

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man I love reading this channel after not looking at it for a while
we went from how people deal with war to knife cats to david cage's hack fulfillment

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 2:05 AM

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right? supergiant discord is my fav discord

viral token Aug 14, 2018, 4:01 AM

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LOL it's my only Discord 😛 😄

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All of these unread messages have been fascinating to read!

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@bitter phoenix I reccommend Ori and the Blind Forest--it's not exactly about climate change, exactly, but nature is an extremely heavy focus and theme. It's a game about the beauty of nature, and all the "bosses" are natural phenomena like waterfalls or gales of wind. All throughout the story, you wander through a world that has been altered from the one the protagonist grew up knowing. The story is a love story between parent and child, and its wonderful. ☺ 🌿 🍂

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 4:14 AM

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its weird seeing people with only one or two discords

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cause i have like

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20

languid trail Aug 14, 2018, 5:19 AM

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this is one of the only discord i actually check and keep up with

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emotional energyyyyyy 😄

boreal lily Aug 14, 2018, 5:34 AM

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haha im in 10 servers exactly and i only check 3 of them regularly, this is one of them

viral token Aug 14, 2018, 6:07 AM

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I agree, SummerSquash! I've never really met another SG fan in real life, so hanging out and talking with allll you guys on here is really amazing and special! Plus that awesome Q and A....this is such a cool place, and I'm so glad I'm here and can connect and talk with everyone! Everyone I've talked to is sooo nice, and reading all these discussions about different viewpoints and theories is just awesome--plus being around the immense love and appreciation for Supergiant! Logging on and instantly finding people already here who cares about what I do is just....so awesome! Perhaps I feel so strongly because my mom doesn't even LIKE video games, and I'm the only one in my family who likes this studio!!

bitter phoenix Aug 14, 2018, 8:37 AM

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@viral token I've heard of Ori, but not played it yet. Thanks for the recommendation, might give it a shot when it's on sale. It doesn't fill the niche of a climate change game, though, but still seems nice.

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:23 AM

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last night i had a dream that transistor was made into a movie

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an animated movie

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it was more about red's backstory and i kind of disliked it :/

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 4:54 PM

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why did you dislike it and how did it portray red's bg?

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all i remember its it was very cliche and wholesome

smoky zealot Aug 14, 2018, 8:18 PM

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I like cliche and wholesome but probably not for something with deep lore like transistor

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 8:25 PM

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yea

humble copper Aug 14, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Not when it completely undercuts the tone and theme.

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 8:26 PM

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@supergiantgames when is transistor movie coming out >:(

humble copper Aug 14, 2018, 8:26 PM

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You can go family-friendly without veering into "wholesome."

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 8:29 PM

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what do you mean by wholesome?

humble copper Aug 14, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I always interpret someone calling a piece of media "wholesome" as meaning it's squeaky-clean, upbeat, saccharine cheerful, morally straightforward, etc.

viral token Aug 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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LOL that doesn't seem like it would fit Transistor's tone, which has always seemed more adult to me, not like a PG movie...

humble copper Aug 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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All of which can be fine qualities, but not exactly the best to fit on to something that's about exploring control and humanity's darker urges at its core.

viral token Aug 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Funny dream!

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Yeah.

humble copper Aug 14, 2018, 8:40 PM

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( @full peak Please correct me if you meant it differently and I'm horribly off-base here. 😬 )

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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i mean it was a dream

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any interpretations allowed

drowsy wharf Aug 14, 2018, 9:20 PM

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stability test is funny, i often manage to reach a point where standing in one place and waiting is the solution cause the enemy can't find me or idk

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 9:37 PM

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stability is the copy one?

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usually its just hide behind something for me

drowsy wharf Aug 14, 2018, 9:38 PM

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it's when you have to survive for a x sec

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 9:46 PM

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ohh

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yeah those tests were ezpz

smoky zealot Aug 14, 2018, 10:09 PM

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I think of wholesome more as something that is emotionally fulfilling (like calming or innocent), not really something that relates to family friendly. For example in Transistor, when Red plays with the dog I feel that is a wholesome moment. But the definition definitely changes depending on someone’s exposure to the word

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:11 PM

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☝ oh same

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:11 PM

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wholesome can certainly be used in either sense depending on context

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:11 PM

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i think of wholesome as something that like, leaves you feeling peaceful

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:12 PM

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an unironic, non-pejorative version is yeah, something nice

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 PM

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It makes me think of bread

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 PM

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like whole grain?

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:13 PM

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something that, suitably, fills one with a sense of wholeness 😌

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 PM

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👀

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 PM

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like asher and grant's marriage

smoky zealot Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Bread reminds me, does Red ever get to eat any of the dinners she orders, it’s been so long since I’ve played

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:14 PM

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she gets to eat once

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and go to the restroom

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:15 PM

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also happy anniversary to grant and asher kendrell 🎊

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we dont know when they were married you say? then their anniversary is every day

smoky zealot Aug 14, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Power couple

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:16 PM

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sometimes i wish royce, red and boxer wouldve lived happily rebuilding cloudbank :/

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:17 PM

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~~how did u guess my ot3~~

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oh ok strikethru

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:17 PM

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nah cloudbank is donezo
the country is a second chance!

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its 2 ~~s

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:17 PM

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gdi

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:17 PM

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~~ot3 hiding behind the squiggles~~

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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it's safe there

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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hfhmghjgkj

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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~~my keyboard doesnt have a strikethrough key so i always have to copypaste it~~

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hey it works

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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u did it!!!

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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~~in strikethru no one can see my ot3 (luna/badcell/clucker)~~

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:18 PM

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Isn't the Transistor itself everyone's true mate?

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Cause it uh...

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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i was joking but actually interprocess romance would b wild

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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i want to hear more, shoshana

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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interprifsjdgkbd

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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It gets around and plays for keeps

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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i mean

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you're not wrong

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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royce sees 2 youngladies kissing and goes CLEAR MY SCHEDULE IM RESEARCHING ALL DAYS

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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SJFLDLG

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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lolll

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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They don't have faces

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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so?

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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u dont need faces to kiss

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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dont let that stop them...live ur dreams

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Which is certainly interesting and worth investagating!

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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YEAH NOW UR THINKING LIKE ROYCE

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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I'm IN!

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The Transistor help

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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gjkgkjhgjkhkjhjk

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cheerleader/jerk romance....high difference couple

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oh i think that i found myself a cheerleader 🎵 she is always right there when i need her 🎵

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:22 PM

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creep x snapshot

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:22 PM

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yells

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u guys

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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they suit each other

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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ok but see

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this is wholesome

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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HFHJFJHFHJFHFHJ
YEAH ACTUALLY

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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👀

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:24 PM

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2 Men taking care of their haircuts (sons) and a fetch.....domestic and dangerous

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:24 PM

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haircut sons

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:25 PM

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haircut just a son that rides on his dad's shoulders all day :3

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:25 PM

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haircuts are the most dangerous thing in the game but ok kam i like your version

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:25 PM

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OH YEAH I HATE FIGHTING THEM

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:25 PM

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...Do you think Sybil being around Asher and Kendal fueled her obsessive fixation on Red?

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

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? i mean maybe in a grumble grumble you have partners and i dont way?

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Potentially

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

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contagious gayness

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

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She saw something that worked and wanted it for herself

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:26 PM

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nah sybil was gay on her own first probably hfhjfjfhj

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Royce was putting chemicals in the water that turned the fricken Camerata gay

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:27 PM

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lol

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:27 PM

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I've been bitter about not being with someone before and while I wasn't unhinged, I can see where it could lead

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:27 PM

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okay while we're talking about unusual ships i have a confession which is i..... love........ the idea of royce/sybil as a very intimate friendship that almost crosses into more but doesn't bc of who they both are

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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we all know the only ship that matters is Royce x Young Lady

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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that ship sounds great

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both of them

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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imo red is just the latest of people sybil's been into....not rly like Her Only Gay Crush Ever but just the latest one that unfortunately had consequenses

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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that is a good ship ur right

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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younglady x royce x man

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Hmm, that sounds right Kamila

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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owo

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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royce/process lbr

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Only this time she had the Transistor and friends to back her up

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Asher's cat x Luna

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:31 PM

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i'm unironically so into red/royce, you can shame me if u want to, i don't apologize

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:31 PM

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I've basically written fanfiction about my own fictional characters, I've got no judgement for anyone in this realm

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:32 PM

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i don't really like to ship non canon stuff

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:32 PM

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i Do 👀

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:32 PM

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but i can see royce being into red kinda

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Royce is only into the Transistor

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:33 PM

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royce x boxer, discuss

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:33 PM

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im not redroyce myself but non canon ships can be real goodt imo

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oh huhhh........i cant see it but itd sound amazing fjgjkgjkgjk

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Royce x Science

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:33 PM

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honestly i can see anyone falling in love with boxer

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everyone's gay for boxer

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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royce/boxer is goodt but i have conceived of it and it is not wholesome

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Royce and Rucks, men of science

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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therefore i cannot comment further

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Royce x that one Ursa girl

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no wait

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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hgjkgjkgjkgkjhjk nsfs (not safe for server)

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Red x the one Ursa girl

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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fjskfk

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Zia

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:34 PM

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yes her

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singers unite

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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...huh

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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zias young tho isnt she?

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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^

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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i always think of her like...babey girl...babey

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Red steals her harp

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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tbf its hard to tell exactly how old anyone is in the game

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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HarpRed

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:35 PM

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cause they're all kinda
portrayed as short

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they're all the same size

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:37 PM

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harp red GOODT

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oh you know whats a gr8 ship. lemme find

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:37 PM

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tbh ive always seen Zia and other Ursa guy as being around 20-ish
with The Kid being around 15-16

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:37 PM

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http://snakeshax-six-shoulders.tumblr.com/post/165626866731/i-cant-believe-ashley-and-barrett-smooched ....damn this was 10 months ago....love ur art always savi <33

Tumblr

totodile and up audiences

snakeshax-six-shoulders

I can’t believe Ashley and Barrett smooched

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:38 PM

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OK NOW THAT'S A SHIP

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:38 PM

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im so here for pyre au trna

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:39 PM

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speaking of voices

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:39 PM

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royce is the Voice for the camerata i'm not wrong

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:39 PM

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i love royce's voice

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

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wait did that not delete

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

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it's so great

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

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same

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

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nvm carry on nothing happened

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:41 PM

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luna is a cur in red's team

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definitely

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:42 PM

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maybe red plays like a sap, with jaunt being analogous to the underground thing

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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royce is the voice which is why jen has not drawn him in the pyre au, i tell myself this to console myself

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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oh sap red........

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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what is boxer tho

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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sap red!!!!!! with a voice that seems to echo

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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voice ?

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:43 PM

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demon boxer...

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:44 PM

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boxer as reader might fit, or boxer as sapling might be cute

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Imp Cell

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:45 PM

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maybe all the dead cloudbank citizens could also be on red's team

sturdy gale Aug 14, 2018, 10:45 PM

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iggy boxer

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DEMON BOXER

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:45 PM

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boxer moves like a demon

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him Big

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so does grant

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OMG I REMEMBERED MY LIKE, HEADCANON FOR THIS

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:46 PM

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OH??

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:46 PM

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grant is a demon, he was exiled significantly before asher

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who cast himself down voluntarily 😭

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grant's crime was something to do with political insurrection

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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implying grant would ever get caught

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:48 PM

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(assuming he was cast down, royce's was heresy because he was SUPER into astronomy from a scientific and not theological perspective)

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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i say asher is hedwyn's class (don't remember name)

rare moth Aug 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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nomad

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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nomad yeah ia

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royce is either camerata voice or reader

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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also i think sybil and the moontouched girl would be great friends

sturdy gale Aug 14, 2018, 10:49 PM

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i could see a moon touched asher too

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or wait i mean savage

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:50 PM

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my main narrative point i wanted to hit with it was that asher followed grant to ruin 😭

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:50 PM

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sybil and bertrude, both very schemey, gotta keep an eye on them

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Sybil should be a Curr
get it
cause shes a bit- shot

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:51 PM

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jen drew sybil as a human so mentally I'm with that but I like the idea of harp sybil too

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:51 PM

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harp or savage sybil is what i was thinking

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:52 PM

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let's not get into pyre spoilers here, but kind of a reverse hedwyn situation

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let's not forget people who practice "heretical" beliefs can be defined as savages too

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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I wanna see the Transistor in a robe with a mask

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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royce is Super into the titan stars imo

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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royce would definitely read, although he might not read

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Royce would dab

slow ridge Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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If it could just move, man, it's be great at the rites

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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dab for science

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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where's saba

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:54 PM

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royce would replace the white lute and play the transistor like a guitar

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:54 PM

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i love royce as the camerata's voice because the camerata would take like 2 hours longer to conduct a rite than anyone else

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:55 PM

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it takes so long it becomes day and the rite just ends

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:55 PM

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downside: don't forget, you're here forever
sybil: do it for her

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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who would the camerata liberate first

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also red's team

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Grant

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and probably Luna

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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royce bc he was the first to go down

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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that or Red herself

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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luna is team red and boxer tho

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idk what they call themselves

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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royce would want to stay and poke at ys### to see if there's a sword in there

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:56 PM

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"also red's team"

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:57 PM

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i say boxer would stay in the downside because he just wants to see everyone else is happy :^(

dire pollen Aug 14, 2018, 10:57 PM

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boxer is already staying in the downside

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:57 PM

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~~is this pyre spoilers~~

dire pollen Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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no this is me hurting my own heart

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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minor early spoilers i think

dire pollen Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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for which game

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wait what

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I'm lost

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have you played transistor magno

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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pls don't go too spoilery for pyre in here folx

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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i dont think the others on Red's team would let them be apart
They'd make Boxer go

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:58 PM

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ive gotten all the achievements muzeek :^)

dire pollen Aug 14, 2018, 10:59 PM

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okay then was it pyre spoilers or what? @.@

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 10:59 PM

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i think they're asking if discussion of the Liberation Rites are considered spoilers

dire pollen Aug 14, 2018, 10:59 PM

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ohh

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 10:59 PM

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yeah that

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:00 PM

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i say its not cause they're introduced very early on and we're not really talking about any big spoilers for Pyre's story

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especially involving any actual characters from Pyre

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if we were actually talking about Pyre's characters, I'd say we move channels

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but as it is, we're simply talking about the very basic parts of Pyre's world, and not really talking about any real part of Pyre's story

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:01 PM

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dw of it gets too much we'll say sth

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:02 PM

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i think we all should have enough common sense not to outright say things that spoil Pyre, but yeah, thanks

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but anyways

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the uh

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one sports guy

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from Cloudbank

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he would be a demon

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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the bastion reference guy?

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yeah totally

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skypainter gal would be a savage

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:05 PM

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journalist would be a nomad

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Olamaq

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Olamarq?

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Olamarc?

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the uh

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guy you get Jaunt() from

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:06 PM

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yeah

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:06 PM

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he would be a Curr

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:07 PM

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@bright hearth dw, you'll know squirtyay

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jaunt() is preston moyle!

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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preston is the driver fast boy?

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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olmarq is uhhhhh someone help me out here

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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cull?

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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olmarq is the sports guy

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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gotta go fast boi

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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that i mentioned

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM

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id like to say shomar (mask()) would be a crone, because of the performative mystery

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:09 PM

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there's this one green woman, idk what her name is

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i think she'd be a harp

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Lillian Platt?

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:09 PM

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oh wave tennegan is a sap

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:10 PM

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yeah i was gonna say

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:10 PM

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green woman is niola isnt it

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or is lillian also green

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:10 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/transistor/images/6/63/LPlatt.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20140522184450

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:10 PM

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that one

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:10 PM

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thats Lillian

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Niola looks more blue to me

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tbh Lillian and Niola would also probably be saps

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since Lillian is into physics and Niola is into politics

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both being the intellectual type

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Jallaford too

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since he's a detective

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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they're all saps tho

bright hearth Aug 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Farrah Yon-Dale would totally be a harp

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/XREf3hE.png

Imgur

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wave tennegan yaaaa

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:13 PM

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i don't see the connection between sap and intelligence

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:14 PM

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saps are talkers

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leaders, some might say

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they might not have smart plans, but they sure will tell you all about them

full peak Aug 14, 2018, 11:14 PM

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i can see niola being a sap

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but lillian and jallaford, eh

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:15 PM

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grant would be a sap before royce, is what I'm saying

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:16 PM

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camerata is an all human team, in the end it's one of their major weaknesses

calm jackal Aug 14, 2018, 11:17 PM

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yeah thats fair

jolly radish Aug 14, 2018, 11:17 PM

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i have always seen mr. tree dad as being very similar to what grant would've been in terms of personality

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 2:32 AM

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whoa wait did jen zee ever post the finished camerata pyre team?

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because i've been waiting for the finished product for like a year 😂

jolly radish Aug 15, 2018, 2:35 AM

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sadly it is still camerata minus royce

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maybe one day........

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 2:36 AM

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such a tease...

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the tweet did say it was unfinished, although it looks suspiciously finished to me...

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 2:51 AM

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also i'd like to respond to red x royce with red x asher

calm jackal Aug 15, 2018, 2:54 AM

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two people in canon relationships?

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bold move

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 2:55 AM

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when asher signs off for the last time boxer is being all grumpy and mad but red understands

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red understands because she makes the same choice later on

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THEY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER SOB

viral token Aug 15, 2018, 2:57 AM

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OH. MY GOSH.

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That's....that's....[is speechless]

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Holy cow.

calm jackal Aug 15, 2018, 3:06 AM

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"our stories have deep parallels to each other, we should date"

bright hearth Aug 15, 2018, 3:06 AM

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isnt asher gay though

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 3:21 AM

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could be bi

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don't have enough information really

manic lava Aug 15, 2018, 4:59 AM

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asher is absolutely gay and also married

jolly radish Aug 15, 2018, 11:26 AM

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i would honestly love to see the parallels of red and asher explored via them having more character interaction, though i don't personally favor that in a romantic context

frail fulcrum Aug 15, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Transistor left me starving for more time with all of the camerata, but I think the scarcity of interaction is what makes them so deep because of how much character is crammed into such a small amount of content

sturdy gale Aug 15, 2018, 1:59 PM

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It was super effective how it worked out but like I wish there would’ve been more grant time

young yew Aug 15, 2018, 2:29 PM

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This design over here REALLY reminded me of Transistor, it has that specific cyber+country aesthetic to it! 🔌 ✨ 🌾
https://assets.digitalocean.com/ghost/2017/09/Hacktoberfest17-Blog-01.png

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Tbh I just like to think of red and asher being really good bros, but since crack ships were being thrown around ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Do you mean you wish there had been any Grant time?

languid trail Aug 15, 2018, 4:00 PM

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http://summersquashpatch.tumblr.com/post/127833398672/grant-who-designed-your-clothes-good-lord-grant#notes

Tumblr

The Summer Squash Patch

summersquashpatch

Grant, who designed your clothes, good lord.
Grant looks extra derpy today. I have no sympathy for him.

jolly radish Aug 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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what do u think...... everyone's mbti is

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i want word of god on this but we shall never receive it so let us discuss it instead

drowsy wharf Aug 15, 2018, 10:13 PM

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fetch is damn OP in performance test, just can't get rid of them with all limiters I have so far 😢

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just died I the last wave (3th trial)

foggy fable Aug 16, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Farrah is enfp, because someone has to be my mbti type tbh

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@mods prove me right

calm jackal Aug 16, 2018, 10:40 AM

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uh also we gotta get every character's blood types plz

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and uh, favorite beverage

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sybil drinks martinis in public, but she actually prefers ciders

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wave tennegan will eagerly recommend to you the latest craft beer he's discovered

frail fulcrum Aug 16, 2018, 10:59 AM

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I thought tennegan was more of a quality whiskey type

full peak Aug 16, 2018, 12:23 PM

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Dunno but camerata members have all done their mbti while boxer curses at mbti being useless, corporative garbage

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Dunno what red would think

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She's kinda quiet

jolly radish Aug 16, 2018, 1:42 PM

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red's done it but she doesn't think it means anything of particular consequence

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maybe it factors into your selections hahaha

full peak Aug 16, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Given how everything is planned such a test would definitely exist

spring plover Aug 17, 2018, 12:51 AM

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I'm nosing around in the transistor files, did you know that grant and asher's times of death are generated randomly between a range of numbers?

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grantTimeOfDeath = math.random(40,50) asherTimeOfDeath = math.random(12,16) deceasedPrefix = GetDisplayName({ Text = "Rooftops04_DeceasedPrefix" }) deceasedSuffix = GetDisplayName({ Text = "Rooftops04_DeceasedSuffix" }) totalGrantTimeOfDeathString = deceasedPrefix.." "..grantTimeOfDeath.." "..deceasedSuffix totalAsherTimeOfDeathString = deceasedPrefix.." "..asherTimeOfDeath.." "..deceasedSuffix

calm jackal Aug 17, 2018, 12:54 AM

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I noticed they were different, for sure

tough canyon Aug 17, 2018, 12:54 AM

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i never noticed that!

calm jackal Aug 17, 2018, 12:55 AM

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interesting to see that the ranges aren't linked in any way, so they can be as far apart as 38 or as close as 24

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or that it isn't linked at all to the time you spent getting there

spring plover Aug 17, 2018, 12:55 AM

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the time does increment if you stand around too long

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        wait(37)
        if not grantIntegrated then
            RemoveCustomInfo({ Id = 10479 })
            grantTimeOfDeath = grantTimeOfDeath + 1
            totalGrantTimeOfDeathString = deceasedPrefix.." "..grantTimeOfDeath.." "..deceasedSuffix
            AddCustomInfo({ Id = 10479, Text = totalGrantTimeOfDeathString })
            AddCustomInfo({ Id = 10479, Text = "Rooftops04_GrantText01" })
        end
        wait(23)
        if not asherIntegrated then
            RemoveCustomInfo({ Id = 10480 })
            asherTimeOfDeath = asherTimeOfDeath + 1
            totalAsherTimeOfDeathString = deceasedPrefix.." "..asherTimeOfDeath.." "..deceasedSuffix
            AddCustomInfo({ Id = 10480, Text = totalAsherTimeOfDeathString })
            AddCustomInfo({ Id = 10480, Text = "Rooftops04_AsherText01" })
        end
        TimeOfDeath()```

calm jackal Aug 17, 2018, 12:57 AM

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now that's worldbuilding

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it's always the little things

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you think anyone who spent more than a minute in that room noticed that time passed

full peak Aug 17, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Woah,, love the attention to detail

spring plover Aug 17, 2018, 1:00 AM

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...wonder how your jumps are rated

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gkdfhgdf it's random

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{
    RemoveCustomInfo({ Id = triggerArgs.triggeredById })
    wait(1.0)
    local jumpRatingNumber = RandomFloat(7,10)
    local jumpRating = round( jumpRatingNumber, 1 )
    local jumpRatingStringComponent = GetDisplayName({ Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText02" })
    local jumpRatingString = jumpRatingStringComponent.." "..jumpRating

    nearestJumpPad = GetClosestToPlayer({ Name = "JumpPads", Distance = 300 })
    AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = jumpRatingString })
    wait(0.5)
    if jumpRating < 8 then
        AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText03" })
    elseif jumpRating < 9 then
        AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText04" })
    elseif jumpRating < 10 then
        AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText05" })
    elseif jumpRating == 10 then
        AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText06" })
    end
    wait(1.5)
    RemoveCustomInfo({ Name = "JumpPads" })
    if nearestJumpPad == 40265 then
        AddCustomInfo({ Id = nearestJumpPad, Text = "Rooftops02_JumpPadsText07" })
    end
}```

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<Text Id="Rooftops02_JumpPadsText02" DisplayName="> Jump Rating:"/> <Text Id="Rooftops02_JumpPadsText03" DisplayName="> Good"/> <Text Id="Rooftops02_JumpPadsText04" DisplayName="> Great"/> <Text Id="Rooftops02_JumpPadsText05" DisplayName="> Superb"/> <Text Id="Rooftops02_JumpPadsText06" DisplayName="> Perfect"/>

foggy fable Aug 17, 2018, 2:22 AM

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I cannot figure out for the life of me what the randomization and the scores mean in the transistor universe

calm jackal Aug 17, 2018, 2:23 AM

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oh right the surveys

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sometimes id like to think those are real and they come from other players

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but it's gotta be random, with a much larger range

foggy fable Aug 17, 2018, 2:24 AM

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I think that the weather is voted by real folks, and I know that the traces of Red are other folks running around but still

calm jackal Aug 17, 2018, 2:25 AM

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who's all these people voting for facsimile then

foggy fable Aug 17, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Facsimile themselves

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They have a lot of fake accounts

frail fulcrum Aug 17, 2018, 2:56 AM

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I feel like red would have voted for Facsimile

languid trail Aug 17, 2018, 4:04 AM

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she's nice like that

jolly radish Aug 17, 2018, 5:44 PM

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per the q&a this is a friendly reminder that i lllllllllllooooooooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeee cloudbank's aesthetic more than anything and i want to go to there

blissful blaze Aug 17, 2018, 5:44 PM

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honestly cloudbank feels kind of likeart deco had a baby with a computer

jolly radish Aug 17, 2018, 5:46 PM

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it's so good.

full peak Aug 17, 2018, 5:49 PM

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every day I’d play as many as I could both in a test map, just to make sure they worked, then in a few real combat scenarios. I’d track damage output, visual effects, if they felt unique, and if they felt OP
let's not talk about jaunt(spark(),purge()) heheh @lethal crow

slow ridge Aug 17, 2018, 5:49 PM

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That's one way to test all those functions and completely lose all sanity

lethal crow Aug 17, 2018, 5:58 PM

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@full peak I'D RATHER NOT hahaha

viral token Aug 17, 2018, 5:58 PM

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I'd love to be in Cloudbank, too, Xel, it's so gorgeous!!

upbeat sky Aug 17, 2018, 5:59 PM

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What’s the story with that function combo?

slow ridge Aug 17, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Even without knowing the story, I bet it sounds like something being strained close to breaking

full peak Aug 17, 2018, 5:59 PM

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@frigid raven sorry to bother by sort of repeating the question, but I meant more like "did other pieces of media influence the style of transistor other than combining the noveau + cyberpunk styles?"

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I guess that's maybe more of a question for Jen tho heh

jolly radish Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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m-morgan...

rare moth Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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wrong....channel.......

lethal crow Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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oops

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byeeeee

mighty spade Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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^^" Wrong chat...

rare moth Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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😂 😂 😂

slow ridge Aug 17, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Having watched a little bit of Blood Bowl, all I know is skinks are broken and the dice god loves irony

mighty spade Aug 17, 2018, 6:05 PM

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xD welp, it happens

frigid raven Aug 17, 2018, 6:07 PM

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@full peak It's really hard to pin down the specifics since it's so many different pieces of media for different members of the team. It wasn't a small set of specific touchstones or anything...!

full peak Aug 17, 2018, 6:07 PM

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haha allright

viral token Aug 17, 2018, 6:15 PM

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😂

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Oo cool to know!!

glass quail Aug 19, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Totally not the usual level of deep analytical discussion that goes on in here, but y'all...

Does The Boxer/Mr Nobody/SubjectNotFound/Blue wear an ascot??

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sK9W0pzw3wg/maxresdefault.jpg If you look at his collar in that opening cutscene more closely... it looks like there's a darker piece fo fabric around his neck, peaking up beyond his shirt collar. An since Red's already wearing his jacket at that point...

languid trail Aug 19, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Maybe its a scarf?

glass quail Aug 19, 2018, 4:10 AM

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also a good possibility!

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I just... never noticed he had anything there, before

upbeat sky Aug 19, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Should ask Jen

languid trail Aug 19, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I always imagined him as an open collar kind of guy

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 4:54 AM

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Jen, probably: "it's up to interpretation!"

glass quail Aug 19, 2018, 5:07 AM

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I almost wish there was a spreadsheet of all the art decisions/aspects/details that Jen said were up to interpretation

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Rewards for the best/wackiest interpretations for each

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 9:47 AM

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reminder that Red is tall

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its canon

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201074694236012544/406184151373447188/image.png

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also i hope im not the only excited to see Red in Indivisible

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:15 AM

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So that kind solves the question is cloudbank itself a simulation

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Not to restart that debate again but this is solid argument

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:17 AM

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so does that mean she shrunk when she went to the country

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if so this is terrible and im cancelling Transistor's ending forever now

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:18 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4YEQqLqtYT
This made me understand the game and its nuances so much better
Strong recommendation to check it out

YouTube

Games As Literature

Games as Lit. 101 - Literary Analysis: Transistor

Supergiant Games' sophomore effort is a sci-fi action RPG that's just as beautiful as Bastion and significantly more confusing. Let's talk about what it mean...

▶ Play video

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:18 AM

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GOD IF RED IS TALL THEN HOW TALL IS BOXER

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Eff'ing tall

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Also

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"Among other things" 🙃

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They really want us to become mad

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:20 AM

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i asked what other things but they never replied again

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:22 AM

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gilmanangst
Betcha they just set up this discord to read some homemade drama

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:23 AM

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its sad that they probably have all this other Transistor info and stuff hidden away but arent sharing with us

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give us the forbidden Transistor lore, Supergiant

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Wonder what they'd trade for it

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I mean, I'd trade my soul easily

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:26 AM

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oh yeah they absolutely have a lorebook

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greg's talked about it once or twice

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:29 AM

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On the day they cash out : Hey I have these uniques lorebooks about our games how much you want for that ? And only one person can have 'em all obviously.

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

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greg will burn them

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Just like franky (one piece)

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

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i've been asking this man lore questions for like 4 years, i've become jaded 😂

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

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hack supergiant and steal their FORBIDDEN LORE

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

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They'd trade that for a mech

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Who can build one ?

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:31 AM

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well imean

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if you have a mech you could just take it by force

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:31 AM

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They could destroy it

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Build another mech in case they try to cross you with their mech

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:32 AM

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we could just go ahead and recreate a Metal Gear

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Dunno squat about metal gear

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Metal Gears are basically giant mechs with nuclear capabilities

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:33 AM

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That's what the kid has on its back right ?

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Damn too slow

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Ho like pacific rim

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:35 AM

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except most of these could nuke you

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/5/5f/Rex.png/revision/latest?cb=20140728091245

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https://guides.gamepressure.com/mgsrevengeance/gfx/word/263638054.jpg

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/7/73/TheShagohod.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080528212742

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Obtaining magical powers seems easier than building em bad boys

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Just a wee bit off topic I guess

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

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true

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but still

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

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But hey we've not forgotten this is all to get that sweet sweet lorebook

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

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bulgroz saw me typing and was like "WAIT WE'RE ON TOPIC, WE SWEAR" 😂

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

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3 mods vs 420 ppl online FIGHT

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

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419 😛

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

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3 mods vs the rest of us morons

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

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eventually we'll have something resembling a lorebook anyways lol

blissful blaze Aug 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

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(ง'̀-'́)ง

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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many, many years of people asking questions across platforms

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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TRANSISTOR 2 WHEN

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Country sims when

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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hey was ?faq ever made into a real command

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nope lol

austere furnaceBOT Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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undefined, please check #480043381888647168 for the answer to your question!

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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PFFF

round sable Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Works 😄

full peak Aug 19, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Hhhhh

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:40 AM

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I like transistor as a self-contained thing

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honestly it kinda wraps in on itself

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:40 AM

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Transistor 2 is a terrible flash game on a shady website

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:40 AM

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it's one of the "problems" (i say in quotation marks) i had when trying to write fic and stuff

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Transistor Red Give Birth A Baby
Transtor Sybil Dress Up For Kids

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:41 AM

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everything in the transistor universe feels so tightly tied into the story and the process apocalypse (processpocalypse?) that it's sorta hard to think outside the game's plot lol

quaint silo Aug 19, 2018, 10:42 AM

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procalypse

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aprocalypse

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Transistor Frozen Elsa Red Minion Surgery

spring plover Aug 19, 2018, 10:42 AM

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well now it sounds like you're in favor of the apocalypse 😂

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aprocalypse is good tho

quaint silo Aug 19, 2018, 10:42 AM

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process me 🅱, you won't

bright hearth Aug 19, 2018, 10:42 AM

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T-Poses on the Process to assume dominance

pulsar lily Aug 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Jen can take the mental image of tiny spitfire Red out of my cold dead hands lmao gilmanrage

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Or... brain, I guess

subtle sand Aug 20, 2018, 12:55 PM

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I just realized you can get ringtones for free in the store

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So I did this

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https://youtu.be/kUoRyA5KLME

YouTube

Pepelu

Vivo en Cloudbank bitches

▶ Play video

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(Title in spanish, I was showing it to a friend originally)

full peak Aug 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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jaja sí

primal glacier Aug 20, 2018, 2:16 PM

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That's so cool O-o

round sable Aug 20, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Cool, I've been using that terminal sound as my "new mail" sound for my email program for 2 years now 😃

full peak Aug 20, 2018, 6:53 PM

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i downloaded them to my laptop but forgot to set them

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the only thing on my itunes is that

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 7:38 PM

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question

blissful blaze Aug 20, 2018, 7:39 PM

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answer

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Anyone else here choose their abilities by the back story and all that of the traces over the actual gameplay usage?

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Sure internet, fail me right as I ask the damn question

calm jackal Aug 20, 2018, 7:46 PM

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i mean, crash and breach is best early game combo, and i think that was intentional

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but how do you do it? you just ship different trace characters so you put them on each other?

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Nah it's more of a priority system based on who I liked best apart from the times where I thought traces really got along with each other

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I actually don't remember who I put Moyle with but good thing I like the guy, Jaunt is useful to no end

full peak Aug 20, 2018, 8:26 PM

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He just wanted to go fast

subtle sand Aug 20, 2018, 8:26 PM

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I picked them to unlock the backstory

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like

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I would change my loadout depending on the backstory I wanted to unlock

full peak Aug 20, 2018, 8:27 PM

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I need the lore

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The summon doggo one is super annoying to unlock

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So much ram ugh

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 8:29 PM

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I don't remember who the summon was

full peak Aug 20, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Sybil ?

jolly radish Aug 20, 2018, 8:30 PM

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help()? that's sybil

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 8:35 PM

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I thought sybil like

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converted peeps

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or is that the upgrade version?

jolly radish Aug 20, 2018, 8:35 PM

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that's switch()

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 8:35 PM

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I think the passive was the super form

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gotta admit I do kinda like randomly being able to just blow someone up

dire pollen Aug 20, 2018, 8:37 PM

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unless ofc it doesn't completely blow them up and then just takes up your whole planning bar

jolly radish Aug 20, 2018, 8:37 PM

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yeah, help() also gives you kill() which. lmao... sybil

calm jackal Aug 20, 2018, 8:41 PM

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typical sybil

quaint silo Aug 20, 2018, 8:43 PM

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oh Sybil
sitcom laugh track

rare moth Aug 20, 2018, 9:07 PM

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"I would do anything for u, id die for you id kill for you PLEASE let me kill for u"

full peak Aug 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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And how do we deal with these protected cells sybil ? Tsssss

calm jackal Aug 22, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Anyone got the weird animation that load packets do on hand?

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I wanna get a closer look

drowsy wharf Aug 22, 2018, 9:02 PM

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any tips for speed test 4? I have void and purge and no idea what to do

slow ridge Aug 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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I would make a Lemmy joke but I'm not sure anyone would get it

drowsy wharf Aug 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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if a joke is cool who cares if people get it or not 😄

slow ridge Aug 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Heard of a band called Motorhead?

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Motorhead is 60's British slang for a speed freak

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So listen to some metal and give it another shot

drowsy wharf Aug 22, 2018, 9:09 PM

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I don't

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but managed to win the test

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so nvm 😄

lethal crow Aug 22, 2018, 9:09 PM

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@slow ridge Motorhead's cool and all, but Hawkwind is where it's really at

slow ridge Aug 22, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Someone knows their Lemmy history!

full peak Aug 22, 2018, 10:07 PM

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what's speed test 4 again

slow ridge Aug 22, 2018, 10:08 PM

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...4 pills of speed?

rare moth Aug 22, 2018, 10:09 PM

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💊 💊 💊 💊 💥 🏃

slow ridge Aug 22, 2018, 10:09 PM

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BAHAHA

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You win

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:18 AM

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I just finished Transistor for the first time and RED JUST HECKING STABS HERSELF??

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:18 AM

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Heck yeah

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She gotta be with her bf

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:19 AM

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the plot twists

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its too much

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Pay attention to the credits

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:19 AM

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^

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:20 AM

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It has cute couple photos uwu

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Well they are together again finally....

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but the town...

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She just leaves it all janked up

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:20 AM

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I mean

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:20 AM

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What could she do?

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Its not like anyone but her was left in the town

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She wouldve still been alone even if she fixed it

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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So was that basically the apocalypse and no one survived?

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Define survived

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Im 90% certain that everyone got uploaded into a server

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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sg games have weird sad endings... Not sure I want to finish pyre anymore

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I think it's confirmed no one's alive in cloudbank anymore

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Pyre has the best ending

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Pyre ending less sad

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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And transistor is open to interpretation

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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What I took away from Transistor is this: What makes life worth living?

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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junction jans

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Is it other people? If so, then Red made the right choice by being with the people that gave her meaning

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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It's definitely not an empty city

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Its been awhile since ive played transistor but there were theories that had evidence supporting it that everyone in cloudbank were AIs

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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the meaning of life is flatbread

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Heck, the town is called cloudbank

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Like the internet cloud

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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It took me too long to get that

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Didn't they say that all the computer jargon was flavor in the qanda

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I always assumed Cloudbank was like a simulation or matrix type thing

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Sorry i just find the lore of transistor utterly FASCINATING

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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RIP computer doods

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Who here has played Bastion as well?

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:25 AM

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me

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those end choices tho

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:25 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=337587422

Steam Community :: Guide :: The Plot of Transistor

Finished the game and confused about the story? Don't worry, this guide is here to help....

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Think back to Calford Cauldron, Ruck's dialog there

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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i beat bastion

slow ridge Aug 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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It has the same themes that Camrata use in Transistor

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They saw something of power and peered inside of it, wanting that power for themselves and seized it

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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1: create a time loop where the world ends over and over forever
2: kill countless people for ultimately no reason and then spend the rest of your life with a guy that hates you cause you killed his people, a guy that's angry you didn't undo the apocalypse and a girl that's strangely just ok with everything

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Transistor ending is like bastion ending but red makes the choice, not the player

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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yea

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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i like bastion ending 2

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because ending 1 doesnt go anywhere but with ending 2 there's a sense of moving on from a tragedy

grim current Aug 25, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Does no one else find it strange that Zia is just chill with everything going wrong?

wispy grail Aug 25, 2018, 4:28 AM

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let's move this to bastion

viral token Aug 25, 2018, 8:18 PM

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YAY you finished it!!! I was shocked, too, when i saw the ending for the very first time.

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I assume a lot of citizens evacuated because there were all those articles about it on the Terminals. 😃 That's what I like to think. But your overall impression of the game was a positive one, I hope?

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Oh, please finish Pyre, the ending is phenomenal, SO worth it!

calm jackal Aug 25, 2018, 10:32 PM

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hmm when i look up "transistor load" i get a whole bunch of weird ee diagrams

fresh void Aug 25, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Try "Transistor game load"