I always though it was about Sybil
#transistor
low cypress
I don't know that Sybil held any major significance to Red
more like the other way around
rare moth
ooooh i love that actually, a really fresh take!!
low cypress
Sure, they knew each other, but I think it takes a lot more to write a song about someone
rare moth
what if sybil sings she shines to herself....thinking about red ;o;
tardy slate
The more they mention its an entirely 2d engine the more I recognize the kinda tricks they pull
low cypress
Go head and make that your headcanon, but it's not the case
spring plover
Mojken, you can disagree with people all you want but please don't shut down discussion.
low cypress
I didn't intend to come off that way
I'm just saying that they confirmed on stream that it's one of Red's songs
cedar grove
its not sybil's song but she can still sing it to herself thinking about red
its not not canon
low cypress
That is true
I took what they said more as She Shines being Sybil singing about Red, rather than that just happening
So, slight misunderstanding
slow ridge
That was always my read on it
low cypress
I'll ask, but I most likely won't get an answer
They read the comment three above mine, then mentions refreshing chat
Let's hope it was before that then, not after 😄
upper portal
They’re talking about it!
low cypress
They read, it, said that they want it to be up to interpretation, it's from Red's discography, and is partially about the city to some part
But Greg holds steadfast to not explaining symbolism
slow ridge
Cool
low cypress
But, yeah, I agree with what he said, many songs are tangentially about something, but they don't have to explicitly tell a cohesive story about that thing, but instead are just vague references to related experiences that evoke feelings
So, basically, summarizing She Shines is hard, and not everything is about the City at face-value, but that is the subject, yes
tardy slate
Yeah welcome to Deep up for interpretation Lore
upper portal
I think I’m gonna ask about ÍÕMPÆØË
low cypress
Ì*
upper portal
Oh whatever
low cypress
lol
They have mentioned that it means something, but dodged a question about if it was just æsthetic or mapped to the language of Cloudbank by saying yes
tender frigate
lul
it says that on my poster
but i dont care what it means coz it looks super sexy
i just roll with it
low cypress
Darren said my name perfectly yesterday I think, but Amir butchered it 😂
But chat is much calmer today, pretty nice
"They are just friends who chose to have the same last name" - Greg
tardy slate
How did you even type that
low cypress
I use Dvorak
low cypress
Yeah
tardy slate
.... it’s a lot less impressive written that way
low cypress
I use Dvorak, lets me combine symbols into joint letters and such
It's at least three button presses per letter, and unusual ones so it's pretty hard, but it works
ÌÕMPÆØË
Takes a while lol
`I~OMPAE/O:E, with the combine button before every pair
I get the impression that Greg can't stand people who don't readily accept the LGBTQ community. I respect that.
cedar grove
well, can you stand people who think others are lesser just for existing?
jolly radish
popping in to say i missed the kendrells convo. what was said
cedar grove
it does mean a lot to me though, because people who think like that really are out there
low cypress
I respect that
*personal attack*
cedar grove
it wasnt a personal attack, im sure you can see how its a personal/touchy subject
sorry though
cedar grove
woah what am i missing
full peak
#confirmed
foggy fable
It’s more of a place that folks go to enjoy themselves tbh
low cypress
I've always kinda gotten that impression of Cloudbank though
That you chose to be there
Just like everything else
Leisure, red lights, ...
fresh void
I gotcha
low cypress
Ninja'd
fresh void
Nevermind
low cypress
Lol, he hit a haircut(), then dodged it into where it landed
I don't understand, what would it be if not a leisure city
Movark, we didn't get an answer
I'll ask again
Actually, I'll wait a bit more, since the chat hasn't buried it yet
foggy fable
My chat keeps shooting out, I really hope that this is being recorded;-;
The whole thing about leisure cities for me is that I live in one, and I know that those places run fast and efficiently because someone behind the scenes works REALLY hard
So like
low cypress
They are reading it
Not a direct reference, no, but there are very strong connections to an iMac. They both started laughing. @tardy slate
tardy slate
Dam
low cypress
It was basically like "Yeah, I mean, basically, but it's not supposed to be a reference per-se"
So, I take it like it is one, more or less
That was a really nice answer
tardy slate
when your stream starts cutting out right as they get into Royce’s lab
full peak
It s telling you something
tardy slate
Sunkish
tardy slate
Boxer is tall
low cypress
No concrete answer
But they are as tall as they want to be
So I'd wager 1.87 or so
Which is a bit taller than me, but beyond that it starts becoming a problem (at least in this world, and that's the only reference we have), and 2m is just scary for everyone
I've experienced being much taller than everyone else when I lived in Japan, and you really don't notice it until afterward
I look at pictures and it shocks me how short people are by comparison
This is #off-topic-discussion
sorry
Thank you again @fickle maple and today @frigid raven for yet another amazing stream! It's been a joy watching it, and I'm gonna stay up all night trying to finish Pyre in preparation for tomorrow.
Also, thank you for answering all of my questions :3
Much appreciated!
full peak
thanks a lot guys!
i tuned in to the stream a bit late, was it recorded by anyone?
few people recorded it
myself included , but you know how steam is a bit iffy and gets stuck at random 
so some small parts will be missing
it's alright!
may i have the link?
low cypress
It ended a like a min ago, there's no way it's already uploaded somewhere
full peak
i haven t uploaded it yet ! i still have to edit it ’n’ stuff too
full peak
@full peak thanks, thats really nice of you
low cypress
Cut it when they open the menu at the end, their awkward ending doesn't need to be immortalized 
full peak
i ll consider
lethal crow
hahaha
cedar grove
uninhibited
full peak
i ll give what i can !!
cedar grove
trna stream: directors cut
full peak
though it s like 4 am right now and im . deceased
cedar grove
god please sleep
full peak
i ll do the simple trimming and share some other time !! sorry for those who r excited 
lethal crow
Get some rest!
frigid raven
@low cypress Thank you!!
Thank you folks for tuning in if you caught the Transistor stream today.
languid trail
Wait did someone say the kendrells are just friends????
devout ledge
Unfortunately yes! They ended about an hour ago.
wintry trench
Noooo! *pout*
Oh well.
I really needed to go outside.
I looked at a tree today and though, "Whoa, these graphics are really high resolution."
spring plover
A few people recorded it! @full peak is gonna have a copy up in a little while
I'd record/watch but the time is literally my overnight ^^;
wintry trench
Oh, that's great news!
languid trail
I need answers :'D
spring plover
Did you see the previous years' transcripts above?
devout ledge
Someone did ask about their relationship, but I assure you the answer was not they're just friends.
spring plover
Oh wait, about that, sorry :')
languid trail
Thank you @caitlin there was a quote out of context and I was freaking out a little bit XD Ive been packing for a trip all day so i couldnt watch
spring plover
Yeah, Greg would never say that hahaha. I think the quote was just a joke
languid trail
Thanks for clarifying! :D
Worst part is ill be away without internet all week so I wont be able to watch the stream for quite a while :'D
Also just want to say I love this discord, everyone is so nice
wintry trench
Yep!
jolly radish
foggy fable
‘Can you read?!’😂
‘You are mean’🤣
At the same time, it’s a little creepy that the world responds like it has its own morality system tbh😨
(I’m just gonna get into why I’m excited over ‘leisure city’ now) I feel like we got confirmation that there are other cities besides cloudbank tbh.
As mentioned earlier, leisure cities need a lot of work to run. Some of these materials (petroleum, diamonds) aren’t offered in the city, so you have to get them from somewhere else, and use trained labor to get these specialty goods. Thus, the need for ‘working’ cities, tbh.
(I mean, there’s also wherever the hell that the Process came from-maybe the Process were from a working area, got tired of sweating it off while cloudbank partied, and decided that they wanted their turn in the sun? 🤷♀️)
spring plover
I always thought it was kind of implied that the Process provided whatever was needed, and were responsible for making the changes in the city
If you have these things that can apparently rewrite whole structures at will, it makes sense that they could produce just about anything else
wintry trench
coughfabberscough
spring plover
nanofabricators
i think
wintry trench
Pick your favorite recycling/fabrication technology.
slow ridge
Taking the name litterally, they are the process that anything is done and probably similar to a computer process
spring plover
imo it was the fact that the process existed in cloudbank - whether they're "natural" or invented - that allowed Cloudbank to be a leisure city at all
if people don't have to be concerned about production, they can be "anything they want"
without being concerned about their value in a strictly capitalist, production-based system
does that mean social value systems don't still exist, of course not
but, you know. different
slow ridge
There would be no working class then, and that'd be... Weird
spring plover
There is probably still an underclass though
foggy fable
Scary stuff, tbh. It changes everything
spring plover
Whether they're underclass because they do hard labor or not
Niola's whole thing was advocating for "underrepresented" populations
the "rule by majority vote" thing obviously leaves a lot of people on the sidelines
foggy fable
(I’ve always wondered what causes she was working for.)
spring plover
And it's implied that Bailey faced discrimination from a young age despite the whole "you can be anything you want in this town" bit
if you're a minority, you're still...well...a minority
and that, combined with the ability to change the whole city structurally through voting, brings direct power to a tyrannical majority
slow ridge
Explains Red's disillusion
foggy fable
There’s a joke about American politics here, but I’m too tired to make it.
spring plover
I mean
Transistor is an explicitly political game, imo
most cyberpunk is. or should be.
it's responding to problems we still have, things we still value or look down on as a culture, etc
which is why I thought it would be cooler if Cloudbank was a post-technological singularity world, rather than just a simulation, or the inside of a computer
once you remove it from human society it gets a lot less...interesting
slow ridge
It took me far too long to realize Cloudbank is probably a server bank supporting a cloud
foggy fable
@spring plover Then they lose that recursion part, which I want to say is tied closely to the ‘working overthrowing the leisure’ part, but I’m not sure how, tbh. Unless there’s a way to keep it in that I’m missing.
@slow ridge same😩 It makes me wonder if it was the cloud that got wiped, or the server that got wiped
spring plover
I honestly never thought too hard about recursion, which is my own mistake
I sorta just treated it like new game+ lol
slow ridge
I asked a tech friend if recursion is a tech term and it is
spring plover
Yeah, it is
recursive functions are functions that call themselves, if I remember correctly
if you don't close it properly a function can call itself infinitely, locking up the program
slow ridge
Betheda joke here?
foggy fable
Ngl, recursion is hard to think about tbh. I remember the steam forums tearing themselves apart over it😅 I almost want to say that’s because you can’t really read red.
(But if the program locks up, wouldn’t it just freeze?)
spring plover
Technically you don't have to recurse
You could view it as Red trying things again, somehow, only to realize eventually that it always ends the same way
and just, stopping
slow ridge
Could also be that recursion is a on theme term for New Game +
spring plover
I mean that's how I always took it 😛
slow ridge
Then again, there's the opening line...
spring plover
y'all know watsonian vs doylist explanations
sometimes you can admit that there's a "doylist" or meta-explanation for something that is outside the lore of the game
but it's just so much more fun to be watson and stay inside the story
different people like different answers and usually it's possible to accept both
slow ridge
I agree, having read The Dark Tower as a teenager and talking that over and over...
spring plover
i don't like thinking about recursion too much because there's not really a good answer and it just makes my head hurt lol
i tend to just say "it's just ng+" but i know a lot of people have fun thinking about it too, and there's a lot of cool possibilities
slow ridge
I mean, if the Transistor is a giant USB, is there a back up of Cloudbank in it?
It's monkeys all the way down!
spring plover
Cloudbank's logo is a transistor diagram
monkeys, huh? I always heard it as turtles all the way down in school 😂
it sure is something all the way down
foggy fable
If there’s a backup; is it the same folks in there, or new ones? Are they gonna make the same mistakes?
glass quail
I vote squirts
spring plover
foggy fable
I read a kids book about that. Scary stuff lol
spring plover
Here's a fun little bit
in the final fight with Royce, you see all the traces you've collected in their trace banks
mr. nobody isn't there
foggy fable
jesus
slow ridge
Oh good,, that is a great thought
glass quail
oh damn
Personally I'd always liked the theory of Cloudbank as an isolated server a la Tron's Grid, and the individual people as programs developed to simulate a world-setting
sort of like a modeling-system?
but then you have someone like Mr. Nobody, who's possibly a Flynn, or a Clu
so they're developed as people, and they fall into human patterns of behavior
slow ridge
Maybe he intragrated into the Transistor, as his is the only voice coming out?
spring plover
I personally think he's stuck somewhere he shouldn't be. not just that Red can hear him because she knows him, but that he's not actually in the place he "should" be in
in a filter of some sort
glass quail
but without the RL historical context that predetermines where prejudices fall in here
slow ridge
Nobody.exe can't be found?
spring plover
he can only communicate with traces while they pass through the Transistor, once they're gone, they're gone
foggy fable
Like norton antivirus’ quarantine system
slow ridge
I'm due for another play through after I beat Bastion again and soak in all the lore
spring plover
Because like the way Mr. Nobody describes the inside of the Transistor is weird, imo
It sounds like he's too close to the surface
It's certainly different from where he and Red are in the end of the game
glass quail
I always assumed it was something like, Boxer couldn't be processed
spring plover
"nothing" doesn't sound like a description of wheat and a nice blue sky
glass quail
properly, I mean.
slow ridge
So if Cloudbarnk is a pleasure city, then what is the country?
spring plover
The natural counterpoint to The City
slow ridge
In classical American literature, it depends on the tone of the novel
So, Cloudbank is a utopia corrupted, then the country is old school wide open freedom?
foggy fable
That’s a good question, because I’m not sure how folks here irl see the countryside.
spring plover
it's an ideal, imo
i like to think of it as a real place that became a metaphor for the afterlife
slow ridge
I live in Kansas, depends on who you ask
There' a sense of do it yourself grit and endurance and quiet, peace
glass quail
huh
foggy fable
Folks are proud of coming from there.
glass quail
I'd always thought of the country as, like, an afterlife/program deleted concept
maybe a maintence set
spring plover
i think what you think of the country has a lot to do with what you think the nature of cloudbank is
glass quail
a place people say they want to visit bet never go, and they don't know a ton about it?
slow ridge
With the Process consuming Cloudbank and people getting taken into the Transistor, then the country would be individual focus, as there's room for everyone
glass quail
a descriptor for what happens when someone gets removed from the server-system
but also, to be fair, I've always viewed Cloundbank itself as an isolated post-scarcity society and less of a straight leisure-city
like a model for "in a post-scarcity society, what do we see with human behavior?)
spring plover
hmm this is what i wrote...uh...two years ago
Farmland seems to be aligned with the Country, a place that seems both made-up and very real in the way it’s spoken about. Either way, it does have a sort of fantastic quality - if they consider farmland to be fantastical or magical, it’s unlikely that they have much of it just lying around in Cloudbank, and while they know about it in concept, it’s almost mythological in the collective mind. Food can’t be brought in from the Country, because no one returns from there.
slow ridge
The way Red sings about it in "We All Become" lends to it's mythic status
spring plover
people would rather die with their city than flee it, assuming fleeing is an option...
this essay was about people actually worshipping Cloudbank
like...as a quasi-religion
we do see churches in game
slow ridge
"She Shines" certainly is a song dedicated to Cloudbank and those exist here
spring plover
Cloudbank does a lot of the things deities do. It shelters the people that live there, it provides for them, it “listens” to their requests and changes shape to suit them. It can change the weather, the landscape, even the very color of the sky. It is an entity of incredible power and incredible generosity and to those who know nothing of the Process, it seems to act autonomously, it seems to have agency. It is hardly strange that a population living with such an entity would consider it divine, or a deity in its own right, and would build up a mythos around it and around its peculiar physics and its own type of reality.
This explains a lot of things, including the fervent love many people seem to have for Cloudbank; the feeling that Cloudbank comprises the entire world for these people, that they would rather die with it than flee (assuming fleeing is a possibility); the characterization of one entire sphere of the world, not as “Earth” (as opposed to Heaven), but as “City” (as opposed to Country).
Even for those of a less religious bent, the “way the world works” is still a study for the faithful. Royce can be described as “an atheist looking for god”. It’s safe to say that he found it, in exactly the way he had hoped. Physics, science, and math are their own sort of faith, a belief in the way that the world holds together, and those theories panning out would be like holding the mathematical key to the universe in the palm of your hand. It would be its own sort of revelation.```oh yeah there seems to be a difference between going to the Country and dying
with going to the Country being a conscious choice made almost like retirement
which would imply, you know... a real place, somewhere
even if it's just a soylent green type deal
slow ridge
Cloudbank is sitting on a server loaded into the Bastion and Rucks isn't that good of a programmer
bam, wrapped up with a bow
primal glacier
I feel like the characters themselves contradict each other on what the country is sometime
hollow sable
Wow so much discussion, that was great to read
spring plover
found what i was looking for!
this is a window used in the sanctuary area of Fairview, with sanctuaries being a seeming equivalent to churches
there's some symbolism for ya
slow ridge
...Huh
My second playthrough will be a deep dive cause that makes me quite curious
In "She Shines", Red refers to the city as female but that's nothing new. Cloudbank is certainy something of a mother figure, providing everything for the people
spring plover
if y'all aren't aware there's a toooon of meta and art and fic archived at transistored.tumblr.com
my own tags are poorly organized so i keep going there to dig up my own writing lol
slow ridge
I'll have to check when I'm more awake, as my brain is failing me
I'd love to have a conversation about themes and what we each drew from the game
languid trail
If im not mistaken, isnt there an ovc terminal where they talk about the citizens gathered at the edge of cloudbank
languid trail
Chilling and watching the world burn
spring plover
she basically says there's nowhere to run
which implies hard boundaries around Cloudbank of some sort...water, maybe
which, again, raises the question of where exactly Mr. Nobody thought he and Red were gonna escape to at the beginning of the game
languid trail
I had read it as past some sort of threshold
Like you go past point x and the process just leaves you alone
spring plover
I think it's even mentioned that the Process don't like water
languid trail
Also, jumping in late to an earlier point, theres a theory floating around somewhere that while the transistor is in the possession of a user the traces are locked up like in royces fight, but when its inactive they go to the country area
Doesn't explain boxer but
slow ridge
...intruiging
languid trail
Doesn't explain boxer but
Its interesting nontheless
Curse you internet, sending double messges
slow ridge
I love this place, will return after sleep, thanks for the compelling conversation!
iron atlas
Is there a recording of transistor stream?
iron atlas
Ah alright,thank u! Also hi Ven
spring plover
Heyo!
wintry trench
Eeheeheeheehee
I figured out how to get the Transistor ringtones into my computer for custom alert sounds.
young yew
Backreading this was so interesting
inland mirage
I love Drunk Transistor's little "woooo" when you win a fight
full peak
ikr
drunk boxer is so cute
i just read this entire conversation and found it really interesting, im glad there are other people who think so deeply about transistor
some really good arguments in there
boreal lily
did you guys see the game as literature transistor episode?
wintry trench
I think it's posted somewhere in here.
boreal lily
oh okay
tardy slate
The first thing I see on that blog is a redraw of the Spy saying "Gentlemen" but it's Royce
And I love it
Also this is rleateed to yesterday's stream
But they said the Spine hallway used to be some stand in art for like moving around Cloudbank or something like that, and I do remember a GameInformer article saying that the art used there was something like backdoors Red can use to traverse the city, not the gut of The Spine
full peak
guys i dont mean to be annoying but is there any link up for the transistor stream yesterday or not yet?
workin on it
Awesome!
thanks!
calm jackal
did anyone ask about the spooky ghost reds that pop up from time to time?
cedar grove
iirc theyre "ghosts" of other players
calm jackal
yeah, but like, why?
devout ledge
It follows the theme/ominous hinting of recursion.
calm jackal
I guess it is pretty thematic when you put it that way
wintry trench
[Dark Souls intensifies]
tardy slate
Is that what they are?
inland mirage
Supposedly. I asked but never got a response.
full peak
what do you guys think Recursion actually is?
inland mirage
I don't know if there's actually a plausible reason for it in-game like in Bastion. The only reason Royce speaks at the beginning is more than likely just a programming joke
fringe ledge
To respond to an earlier point, the process does not like water because even the water by the stage has only been 8% processed when you get back to it near the end. Hence boxer suggesting they don't seem to enjoy water.
pulsar lily
Except that Clucker they pointed out that pops out of the fountain. That one doesn't seem to mind, lol
fringe ledge
I think recursion is just the ultimate expression of the Camarata's credo. Everything changed, so nothing changed and Cloudbank rebuilt itself. We never know where these people come from, just that they live in Cloudbank. What if once the transistor has everybody the process just starts the program of Cloudbank again, ultimately resulting in the same glitch. What if Red herself is the glitch? Her selections are strange in Cloudbank, and boxer is also an anomaly. Thoughts on thoughts on thoughts
@pulsar lily that clucker is a trendsetter lol
hollow sable
Do you guys think Boxer was an outsider?
The stuff about nonselection in his bio-- does that mean that they have no data on him ever voting in anything? But his bio also says 0% of citizens chose nonselection, so does that mean he's not really from cloudbank?
There's also how his status is different, not "integrated" like everyone else but that could just be because they got him by accident since he wasntmeant to be transistor'ed
calm jackal
They talk about selection in some throwaway lines near the stage. It's where people choose who they'll be in life or something. The reason his status is different is probably because he got hit with a sword or something. His nonselection messes up the sword, hence breach()
devout sandal
Anyone has some opinion on Red's death? I mean not the one at the end, but the one when all of the functions are lost. She glitches, disappears, and then we can hear Boxer calling her name. That's what made me think about if the Cloudbank city is actually a city or some kind of program. On the other hand we can see people's corpse in the game and I'm not so sure if it could be a part of programmed thing were there are no actual people but programs. Even Red does not die this glitched way at the end of the game and her body stays in Cloudbank next to Boxer. To bo honest I don't really know what to think about it right now
inland mirage
I think it's the transistor completely overloading (like the functions) and then sucking nearby people (only Red) into it, similar to the Cradle incident with Royce.
knotty moth
I know there's theories to the contrary, but I for one am 1,000% convinced Cloudbank is something like a full immersion social media platform VR simulation, sorta like a crazy Second Life of the far future. At the end, you see something like stasis pods containing all the people who've gone to the country, suggesting they're in cryosleep or something.
To respond to the death question, I think you're right on the money. She gets sucked into the transistor. Either that or it just burns out and the whole simulation collapses catastrophically.
My interpretation is that the transistor itself is a representation of a top level admin control program, and the process are more or less the worker ants that build Cloudbank from behind the scenes, run amok when the Camerata lose control of the transistor.
So what would death mean in that view? The process are denying the current user access to the transistor program's functions until they deny her access altogether?
Or the "damage" they're doing is corrupting parts of the transistor program until it becomes catastrophically corrupt and... something happens.
I don't think it would be inconceivable to speculate that the transistor program has code with self-healing properties, represented by the burning out of functions. If too much gets burned out, however, it's possibly too much for it to self-heal through and it crashes.
fathom scarab
What if recursion is actually only the transistor going back in time
knotty moth
Or resetting?
fathom scarab
I don't think I ever seen a theory about the player
knotty moth
You're just playing as Red, arent' you? Not something like the reader in Pyre.
fathom scarab
Like what if the game is about playing through the memories of the transistor
Only played transistor
knotty moth
Oh totally play the other two. They're magical.
I think the player's perspective in Pyre is sorta what you're talking about. With maybe a bit of he framed narrative from Bastion.
fathom scarab
I'll definitely play them
foggy fable
I completely support the 'social media/second life type game' theory because on both transistor and sl, i've seen folks dress up in the gaudiest outfits, behave in the most off kilter ways, and get mad about the most bizarre things
I'm surprised that half the cast hasn't coded themselves to dress like memes lol
But with all seriousness, the internet grants folks a certain level of anonymity, which lets them act like that. i wouldn't be surprised if some of character's weirder traits came from them being someone else's avatar.
wintry oxide
Anyone know if there'll be more Transistor Vinyl's printed ever?
rare moth
fun theory: ashers cat is a seperate person using a cat avatar, asher/grant/cat are a poly couple
fickle moth
best headcanon
blissful blaze
so........ asher and grant and Idk, Some Furry I Guess,
rare moth
furry: (picks up the trna from empty cloudbank) aha....i will buuld this plave anew
inland mirage
I wonder if there's actually a scoring system for Jump Rating
fathom scarab
There was a launcher that said something like "jump algorithm unknown"
inland mirage
Transistor, 1st playthrough: "oh wow royce can use turn"
Transistor, all other playthroughs: "hissouchthatstungimpossiblenoitcan'tbegonepleasedon'tbegone"
his fight doesn't exist once you do recursion
inland mirage
well yeah, but it's over so quickly
inland mirage
because you can instantly delete him
rare moth
wait can you?
gjgkjgjkghjk ive been just........playin along..............didnt kno the cool hacks.....
inland mirage
void(tap, purge) three times on him, bounce(crash, flood) twice on his back and he dies
rare moth
OH.....NO WAY GJKGKHK
inland mirage
just rinse and repeat twice more for his other lives
rare moth
cool hacks...
blissful blaze
get rekt
rare moth
itd be fun if you could use switch() on him
blissful blaze
rekt like the empty set
blissful blaze
pink royce? 🤔
rare moth
pink royce....
blissful blaze
pink royce??
cedar grove
i dont remember if i read that he has a line when you use switch on him or that someone wishes he had a line
i never tried
pulsar lily
does switch even work on him, i never tried either
cedar grove
i could test, maybe? i might have a save file near the end
calm jackal
royce is also weak to the stealth move
i beat him pretty easy my first run with that
wispy stratus
👆
upbeat crown
If you guys haven't tried it, Get() upgraded with Spark() and Load() is probably the most busted combo in the game. I beat all of newgame+ with all the limiters on without using Turn() and it felt easy. Only supplement I needed was Crash() upgraded with Jaunt().
devout sandal
I'll have to try it then. Thanks!
calm jackal
What does load add to get? Aoe damage?
devout sandal
"Load forms Packets that draw in nearby targets"
viral token
Whaaaat??! 😮 😮 😮 That sounds crazy!!!
devout sandal
Oh wait
I think I mixed Load upgraded with Get and Get upgraded with Load xD
Yeah, that was Load with Get
Get with Load: Get becomes slightly stronger and deal damage in a blast radius.
brave halo
devout sandal
I depended on combos out of Void, Crash and upgraded Breach
And Jaunt 'cause it helped me a lot in escaping from enemies
frail fulcrum
I just stayed alive with bounce and purge on passives
foggy fable
Amen to that tbh. ()Bounce as a passive has bought me a few extra seconds on the Royce battle more times than I can count. 😅
Or consider equipping four ()Helps as passives to up your chances to go super user to 100%. I haven’t done it yet, but you know what they say about bringing a rocket launcher to a knife fight🤷♀️
fringe ledge
Just got my platinum trophy on PlayStation for Transistor! So stoked
low cypress
The parentheses go after the functions
calm jackal
I don't think you even can equip more than 2 of a function
fringe ledge
You can equip the same function in the active and upgrade slot together. I used to double up on spark() to make it rain bombs. With load() on passive?! Forget about it
calm jackal
i meant that as a response to 4 passive helps
young yew
Oh hmm
frail fulcrum
How much damage does superuser's attack do? I only equipped it for the lore and never got lucky
lament creek
Was it 500? I feel like it was 500.
calm jackal
the aoe is too small to be that good imo
also can't you just mash spacebar until you get lucky? you can exit turn if you havent made any moves
languid pawn
Sounds like high time for another replay
calm jackal
yeah, I've been meaning to do a clean save for a while
hollow sable
Hey so u know how Sybil was kinda obsessed with Red and set things up to get rid of Blue/Boxer? What if instead Sybil decided to try to literally obtain Red by trapping Red in the Transistor instead, like how Boxer is trapped in it in the actual game?
So say Sybil is successful in trapping Red in the transistor, but before Sybil can take it back Boxer runs off with the transistor
And Red & Boxer's roles as they are in the actual game would be reversed
from within the Transistor, Red would sing to Boxer as he fights off the process
boreal lily
That is 100% valid
hollow sable
thank u
calm jackal
why would you tease the "play as sybil" and then just tear it away
boreal lily
well i guess if Sybil was playable and Red was in the Transistor then Red would'nt say anything or only sing In Circles
calm jackal
red would sass sybil the whole way
the reason i like sybil as protagonist is because she's the socialite, and sword-holders hear the voices of people they know well. sybil knew all the people in the sword well. it would be very loud
hollow sable
Oooooh
Lmao then she would hear just about everyone sassing her bc she's the one that put them in there
Imagining Red only singing In Circles to Sybil the whole way is hilarious tho
"Can you PLEASE just sing something else"
boreal lily
"I won't save you"
viral token
That's an interesting idea.....Hmmmmm......very intriguing.....
shell widget
viral token
TheCakeFlavor--would it, though?? She's an event planner so I assume she knows tons of people only superficially; acquaintances...can you hear people in the Transistor only if you have a personal connection with them, like friendship?? Because then wouldn't Mr. Nobody hear Preston Moyle and all the souls he seems to have background with?? 🤔 
wait maybe this doesn't make sense...
full peak
Has anybody ever brought up the similarities between Blank Canvas' Humming, and Paper Boats' lyrics?
Listen to how Red hums in Blank Canvas, and then listen to Paper Boats' lyrics.
calm jackal
yeah, she's definitely humming to paper boats
but think about it
if you have a blank canvas, and then you fold it
📰 ⛵
inland mirage
she also hums paper boats when there's no music iirc
viral token
oh my gosh, I never thought about it that way before....!!! 😮 😮 😮
smoky cliff
so the pizza scene has some easter eggs from bastion, do you think the doll face on the left of the shelf is a nod to anything?
calm jackal
rite mask prototype?
foggy fable
Bummed that pyre didn’t have a transistor shoutout tbh
primal glacier
Maybe it did and we just haven't looked hard enough yet lol
calm jackal
Falcon Ron is junction Jan the whole time
ebon scarab
But Junction Jan's stuff was free, wasn't it?
calm jackal
You right... maybe they're mortal enemies
ebon scarab
Yes. That makes perfect sense. Ron dosn't like that they sell stuff for free, and they don't like Ron because.....ummm.
calm jackal
Jan doesn't like Ron bc Ron smells
ebon scarab
Yes. That logic is flawless. Whose Jan anyway?
calm jackal
Jan of the junction
inland mirage
sEa MoNsTeR's ReAlLy ThE OnLy ChOiCe HeRe
wraith palm
🤔
cedar grove
@smoky cliff that's eliza from skullgirls on the shelf
http://skullgirls.com/wp-content/themes/skullgirls/images/characters/eliza.png
she also has a transistor color scheme, so i assume its not a coincidence and it has to be her
https://i.redditmedia.com/AguQq1tMCgVVD__EgT44ErHCB78rGj3F-tsiYA3PvnE.png?fit=crop&crop=faces%2Centropy&arh=2&w=960&s=597bce8904dfbc745d0783f23c4dcd7b
calm jackal
found a higher res picture, and it looks like this character you've suggested
smoky cliff
@cedar grove That's awesome, great find! I've been curious about that for a while now, thanks!
knotty moth
Wow I NEVER noticed that shelf. Thanks for pointing it out, eveyrone.
young yew
Whoaaa
knotty moth
Didn't Greg or Amir say that the skullgirls artist and Jen were super old friends?
rare moth
ohhh really? nice!!
viral token
really?? cool if true! Haven't played that game yet, myself...
Yeah, an Easter egg in Pyre would have been cool, but on the other hand since it's SOOOOO drastically different than the previous two, I can see why they didn't....although I kept on expecting the Camerata's logo or the hilt of the Transistor (maybe that one is too on-the-nose, though) or SOMETHING to appear in Falcon Ron's bulging packs.... 😋
rare moth
falcon ron scooped up the transistor out of red's body and sold the parts downside....despicable 😂 😂
calm jackal
Falcon Ron uses the transistor to make his products
full peak
"The process, you think they're afraid of heights? <laughter>" <- this is literally the best quote from transistor, don't @ me
i love drunk Boxer so darn much
viral token
Yeah that's a good line!!
I LOVE the one he says about stairs, during that same part. "You know what I hate more than stairs? ....Nothing. Right now, nothing." [I'm paraphrasing...]
Him being 'infected'/drunk with pain from the Spine makes me sooo sad, every single time. 😢
rare moth
poor guy feels every bump
calm jackal
"When I look up... at where the sky should be... I see you... and I know you can hear me"
random saddle
drunk boxer best boxer
wispy stratus
I agree
dire pollen
this is slightly off topic but I always think of this because he sounds sorta sleepy and along the lines of when he's affected by the process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIy42PsWbqo
jolly radish
important, per a pal: https://twitter.com/wintersxass/status/1026480456819081216?s=09
"imagine: royce and sybil cooking"
jolly radish
IM GONNA DIE
elder prairie
"we toast marshmallow chocolate, we know that's a schmore-"
jolly radish
help
elder prairie
"we march to the beat of our own avocado" - royce bracket from the game transistor
rare moth
for the sake of a comedy bit look what ive done. im so sorry. this is horrible i kin
slow ridge
Trying to picture the Transistor being used as a kitchen knife and failing
rare moth
HFHJFJHFHJ
jolly radish
imagining sybil cackling like that at the end and im slain
slow ridge
"So we need to sear the fish..." uses Crash
rare moth
jolly radish
KAM SCREAMS
rare moth
eyyyyyyyy 
jolly radish
rare moth
Royce uses the transistor as a giant letter opener and disintegrates all the mail
sturdy gale
Sybil is a fan girl lonve her shirt
rare moth
the whole thing just gets processed i guess
"sorry we didnt go to your wedding i unmade the invitation"
slow ridge
...Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Don't shoot the messenger"
Or I suppose "Impale the messenger to get the message"
viral token
Kamilla your art is so good and funny! Arg I wanna try digital art
rare moth
thank u!!! u really should, if u can get a tablet!!
slow ridge
Playing Transistor was weird for the first time due to me having a friend nicknamed Red, with red hair and also sang, mostly obsene songs about his computer that died on him with an acoustic guitar
full peak
Planning to 
full peak
If you mean Kam s art then i ve been staring at this for 5 hours now
If you mean the video i watched it 2-3 times 
manic lava
kam everything u draw makes my life better
viral token
Oh wow, Shoshana, that's CRAZY coincidence wow!!!!
AWWW Kamillia you are so encouraging thank you!!!!!!!!! My brother miiiight have one still, I don't know, but if he does I want to try this weekend!! Thanks!!! 😄 😄 😄 
rare moth
oooooh if u get a chance show me what u drew :0!!
viral token
Ok!! 😄 😄 First I have to get use to holding the pen and how it works in general compared to physical paper, ehhhhehehehehe, I've never done it before in my life but I'd love to show you (if he indeed still has the tablet for me to borrow!) 😄
rare moth
yeah, it can be difficult! #off-topic-discussion if u want to discuss more pls?
cinder arch
can un post art
cedar grove
@cinder arch in #fan-works you can
thick coyote
Hi!
full peak
hello hello welcome !!
hallow summit
Hello to every Transistor
ashen flame
I had to stop my transistor play through awhile back because i got stuck in one of the levels by killing stuff to fast
the next door never opened and i couldn't go backwards either was very unfortunate never went back to start over to finish the game
lethal crow
@ashen flame Send your save file to support@supergiantgames.com and I will get you un-stuck.
dawn ridge
best company
ashen flame
honest to god anytime someone ask for a game recommendation i say either bastion or transistor the story the art ITS AMAZING
cedar grove
yup transistor is my first recommendation always
sick panther
i've found home ❤
left plinth
i got my gf to cosplay red by talking about transistor every day of my life
im proud of this achievement
modest snow
I'd like to register my complaint that beating the six young ladies in that one room doesn't give XP
pseudo pulsar
think it's intentional
slow ridge
Taking the quote about young ladies out of context is somewhat tragic
lofty aurora
do you get XP for killing any of the enemies outside of a battle?
lofty aurora
i think it's cool, especially because at that point in the game there are quite a few normal process not in battle, showing that the process really is taking over, but the few enemies that you do end up getting XP from are the newly introduced process-induced humans
calm jackal
is man canonically people?
I thought limiter logs showed that man was just imitating people, like snapshots were imitating cameras
viral token
Proceeded humans?? You don't face anything like that, do you...?? What are you talking about...? 🤔 🤔
Wha? How is the young ladies "out of context" tragic, Shoshana??
slow ridge
You beat up six ladies in a room
viral token
oh lol I guess if you take it like that. But it's word choice. Technically you destroy them utterly....
shrug
😛
slow ridge
I'm aware
viral token
😃
slow ridge
But strip out the context and many things sound quite odd
viral token
yeah, I know. 😛 I do that sometimes with random book sentences XP
ever played that game with several people who all read out a random sentence of different books, on the same page, and see if they make a "story"? It's hilarious!!
Anyway I should get to sleep, goodnight all!
calm jackal
Man is based on royce, and one of the features the process decided to replicate was the haircut, because royce's hair is very important to him
hollow sable
man after hearing Pantheon from Bastion I really want Logan Cunningham to sing a song in Boxer's voice
Speaking of which, is the male voice in Paper Boats Logan Cunningham or Darren Korb?
blissful blaze
i'm pretty sure it's darren, but don't quote me on it
seems like something to ask him
spring plover
I'm like 99% sure it's Darren
The 1% is because I can't remember where I heard that
hallow summit
Wait! Why Darren Korb and Ashley Barrett are not in this discord. or they are in disguise? Show yourself, beauties! 😄 ❤
calm jackal
darren's definitely in here, he's just offline so you cant see him in the team list
hallow summit
@calm jackal That's cool.. so now i have to look all those offline people. :)) but what about Ashley?
calm jackal
I dunno
hallow summit
Yeah I found Darren.. B) but no sign of Ashley.
manic lava
they're doing an ask session today so you can ask then
misty rapids
Is Ashley officially part of the Supergiant Team? I thought she was free lance or something and Darren knew her.
viral token
I think she is officially a part! ^_^ (and at this point, how can she NOT be?? XP )
tight swallow
crossover with VA11-Hall-A when?
thorny lotus
@hollow sable Logan does the very beginning ("The river always finds the sea...")
Then it switches to Darren ("Paper Boats floating on a stream...") for the rest of the song
Youll notice the eq is kinda different if you pay attention
viral token
Hey, anyone Google "Gustav Klimt" just when Jen Zee mentioned him in the chat?? You gotta look him up!!! It's really amazing, and the influence on Transistor is awesomely clear as day; INCREDIBLE work!!!!!! Look him up! 😄
mighty spade
the name is familiar, I'm pretty certain I have his name somewhere on my Art's History book from highschool (or the equivalent in my country)
tight nacelle
Yeah! I studied him a bit since I had friends in art history (I had math instead of history)
split cove
that Klimt painting with a predominantly gold color with the couple is iconic
mighty spade
@tight nacelle u portuguese, right? I figured when you mentioned Iberanime 😄
tight nacelle
@mighty spade I am!
viral token
It's iconic?? Whoa! Cool! He is definitely amazing; I'd never heard of him before. But there's one near the top/first row of Google images that look almost exactly like Red and Mr Nobody 😍
split cove
that's the painting i'm talking about 😄
when people think of klimt, that's the first painting that usually comes to mind
gloomy rain
Fun fact, the museum where that painting is exibited has a room at the side with a reproduction and much better light for your selfie needs
blissful blaze
i love it
split cove
hahaha omg
cedar grove
i have a canvas print of it on my wall
split cove
best piece of trivia i've heard all day
cedar grove
its like, giant
mighty spade
don't you mean...
gloomy rain
The original is huge too, I did not expect that
tight nacelle
pew pew
gloomy rain
Oh, sorry, I forgot to say that I don't do phrasing
sacred delta
I find it cute that all of the Steam emotes are here as emotes, too.
still the best.
viral token
I love the Steam emotes!
Yeah, that painting is amazing, must be huge in real life!! It's so pretty!!
boreal lily
there's also this one:
https://orig00.deviantart.net/ad3e/f/2016/183/1/2/klimt_transistor_gold_foil_print_by_shattered_earth-da8jm4c.png
cedar grove
i drew one myself once, but its red and sybil, and its old and unfinished
mighty spade
I think I just found a new wallpaper for my phone
tight nacelle
@boreal lily your icon!! Is that you?! Momma Jodi!!!
boreal lily
yeah that's me :3
tight nacelle
@boreal lily it's so well done!!
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young yew
I've only seen one or two of those Transistor renditions of The Kiss
They are all so gorgeous
bright hearth
Transistor but its the Sword wearing the coat and he's hopping around using Red as a sword
boreal lily
ok now i gotta draw it
bright hearth
Red is Tposing
lofty aurora
I'm late but I always thought Man was actually humans, as in the designation Royce says one of the Camerata says that it is a "living sculplture", but Royce continues that it is "something rather troubling" going on instead. I assumed that meant it was taking over humans, but I could be wrong.
ornate hull
My thoughts on it is that Man is an imitation of people that starts to act like people. Like if a statue started walking around and tried to be a person.
rigid hull
I've had both of those impressions. Not sure which one I like more, they both seem troubling. Though I do suspect it's more of them being imitations that start to act like people, almost like it's adapting and trying to make the city full of people again but they're just mimics.
ornate hull
That fits even better. Since if the mimic gets to be good enough, who's to say its not the real thing, or that it wasn't that way to start with.
jolly radish
to me the most unnerving interpretation is that the process has started emulating people and royce has absolutely no idea why
i've often thought that royce knows the process better than anyone else and yet he still understands almost nothing about them
blissful blaze
when the average person knows absolutely nothing of a subject, it becomes remarkably easy to be the most knowledgable
fringe pivot
Heya red looking to trade?
jolly radish
important note: tangent is one of the most beautiful tracks in..... anything, ever
thanks for coming to my ted talk
really listen to it if you haven't, guys, it's so complex.
jolly radish
did you mean: the entire gotdang ost
viral token
Xel: My thoughts exactly!! 😃
languid trail
I remember the year Transistor released Austin Wintory expressed his disappointment that Darren Korb wasn't nominated for a Grammy
graceful cave
thinking about how like. the game kinda falls into the bury the gays trope but. it's a bury the everyone trope so tbh it cancels itself out
viral token
What are you talking about?! Why do so many people assume "obsessed with Red" means in love with Red? Red herself is totally, obviously, straight; she's in love with the man in the Transistor! Sybil can be creepily, completely obsessed with a potential victim without it always being love. 🙄 😒
In fact, it's creepier that way--straight, utter obsession, she's a twisted fan-stalker with a superior agenda; one thing I've learned about storytelling over the years is that a lot of the time, the simplest explanation makes for the most compelling.
full peak
you ll never take the potential of red being bi from me
graceful cave
thats. not the thing im talking about
and also its very clearly implied whtever feelings were there were not reciprocated
so red's sexuality is still undetermined
and not relevant
viral token
To each their own, I guess, Booby, by all means, that is just my view, you can totally have yours, no harm meant or anything.
😃
graceful cave
not to mention that saying that "she loves a man" meaning she's straight is kinda a big ass disservice to bi ppl
viral token
I didn't mean to come off as stiff or something, I'm sorry about that, if I did.
graceful cave
theres no evidence one way or the other, but saying that she's clearly straight is. there's nothing there
viral token
there's nothing saying she's straight? But there's nothing saying she isn't, either? 🤔 Huh?
spring plover
To be fair, Jan, the info for sybil as far as i remember says something to the effect of her being infatuated with Red
graceful cave
it's like it's ambigious and it's possible to be bi and never mention to someone you meet that fact
viral token
....I guess....Hmmmm....🤔
spring plover
Its possible to interpret that as nonromatic but it's...a stretch imo
graceful cave
straight shouldn't be the default
spring plover
You're kinda doing more mental work to assume she's not into Red than to just take the profile at its word
viral token
infatuate= "be inspired with an intense but short-lived passion or admiration for.".....
I see your point.
spring plover
I have never ever seen that word used non-romantically
And I like to think I'm pretty well-read lol
glass quail
Regardless of Red's feelings on the matter, Sybil's framing, at least to me, was very... romantic view gone wrong
spring plover
Yeah
viral token
I get what you are saying!
glass quail
so I kinda stand with @spring plover on this one
viral token
I see what you're saying, Soliam...
spring plover
Red is relatively ambiguous
I've seen people interpret In Circles as Red being disgusted with Sybil even, turned away by her advances
viral token
I hope I'm not coming across as too argumentative, btw!! 😋 Sorry guys.
if i am. was.
I understand your statements!
spring plover
It's cool, I just feel the wording is pretty unambiguous on that point at least! :P
Greg is vague about a lotta stuff but he wasn't very vague about Sybil
glass quail
Also I think the main earlier thing about the bury your gays quote kinda also
graceful cave
"bury the gays" also applies to trans characters, too, and in the game i forget who has a very clear "gender - x" marker with an androgynous character design in their trace profile, leading me to believe very heavily that she (pronoun used in the bio) is a nonbinary woman
graceful cave
yep
viral token
But that kinda loops this around to the beginning, I thought we were saying the matter IS kind of supposed to be foggy, you're saying he wasn't vauge? I suppose, but a lot of the files were only summeries...
glass quail
but yeah no since everyone dies its more just a whole thing
trim turret
man i love transistor
viral token
well I don't want to make this more complicated LOL....
trim turret
songs bop
graceful cave
a lot of the time the trope applies to works where straight relationships are allowed to go off without a hitch, but the gay characters get to enjoy torture and pain to make a "tragic" and "emotional" impact
spring plover
There have been a lot of conversations about where the treatment of the Camerata falls within the bury your gays trope, the "villainous queer" trope, the predatory lesbian trope...
graceful cave
but since this is a work thats pretty much leaning into tragedy and constant loss as a theme
trim turret
t-they were queer?
spring plover
The kendrells were married
viral token
apparently.
spring plover
So uhh
trim turret
i beat the game twice and i didn't even notice
graceful cave
it's Word of God, too, right?
glass quail
^ yeah what ven's saying
viral token
i never figured that out until ages and ages afterward.
spring plover
Not sure Greg has said anything explicitly but. No other explanation really holds water
spring plover
I've seen people reach for "asher is grant's son" lol
viral token
😛
trim turret
:p
viral token
Brothers could work, adopted.
spring plover
If you tried, sure
glass quail
Their sumaries talk about how they first met don't they?
trim turret
anyways man i'd love for a remix soundtrack of the ost
spring plover
Again it's an occam's razor thing
upbeat sky
I’m with Janeen on this one. Always thought they were brothers
spring plover
The simple explanation is staring you in the face
viral token
makes sense to me but then again their relasionship isn't exactly the focus of the story..
spring plover
I'd grab text but I'm at the store lol
glass quail
People can obviously interpret what they want XD
lofty aurora
Doesn't something about Asher in the game say something along the lines of he met someone that is far more important to him than any of the change he wanted?
upbeat sky
More I think about it though, the more it seems less likely
viral token
I mean...the game and story and themes is about CHOICE after all, so us players can choice interpretations, right? 😜
upbeat sky
They’d look more alike I suppose
glass quail
Yeah, Asher's file
pulsar lily
@graceful cave Bailey Gilande (Get(), I think?) is the "gender: X" lady!
graceful cave
yep!
trim turret
hopefully at the next event where supergiant is at they'll have Junction Jan's pizza there
glass quail
is framed that they'd never met before Asher was interviewing Grant
graceful cave
ty
pulsar lily
("gender: X" neutral... person ayou know what the profile uses feminine pronouns so I'll stick with "lady")
calm jackal
I'd like to say that the kendrells being gay was confirmed word of god
viral token
ugh this is so much fun!!! but I need to take a shower...
That would be AWESOME if they had Junction Jan's pizza/flatbread!!!!
trim turret
yo like the pizza looks good
viral token
i know right!
graceful cave
this also gets into the fact that in lots of works straight relationships are allowed to be accepted when written through the tool of subtext, but theres definitely a cultural push to assume all characters are straight unless explicitly stated, due to the fact that for so long subtext was ALL we got and it was more bait than anything, so delicate writing isn't really allowed to exist due to miscommunication of attempt.
upbeat sky
Sea Monster’s really the only choice here
viral token
😋 🍕
lofty aurora
yeah Sea Monster would go much more quickly than any of the other flavors
trim turret
when is my miku x red collab tho
glass quail
@graceful cave I will say that I really sorta like how, on that front, Transistor kept a lot of things very subtext-y for nearly everyone
lofty aurora
Dang Miku x Red would be pretty cool
graceful cave
yes!
viral token
Yeah! Even the main plot was pretty vauge at points. I liked that. The story wasn't "spoon-fed" to you.
glass quail
Like I thought it was very interesting that even though Red/Boxer as dating was all very subtext and subtly written, the one time he confesses was
graceful cave
transistor does so much with subtext
trim turret
theres no way supergiant hasnt existed for this long and not heard of miku
glass quail
when he was literally drunk and malfunctioning
trim turret
like i havent even heard of like, fanmade stuff too
glass quail
it was very neatly done, I thought, and I think they did a very good job with it, overall way better than a lot of others who have tried
viral token
yeah, really we don't even know if they are husband, boyfriend and girlfriend, fiance...
trim turret
wait nvm
viral token
But then again the song is "OLD FRIENDS"....telling some of the story right there. Obviously known each other for ages.
glass quail
Exactly! Like, all the subtext hints are there
but its the same hints that are there for the Kendrells
which i thought was very neat.
trim turret
nvm all the fanmade stuff is bad
glass quail
Like, everyone got treated on the same playing field, which I enjoyed
trim turret
i think miku and red would be a neat lil duet
glass quail
There's more with Red and Boxer, simply because they are basically the two characters we follow throughout the game
viral token
I've heard people say that growing into a romantic relationship with a childhood friend is such a special thing....cherished, you know?
Yeah....
glass quail
but otherwise EVERY relationship is all subtext
viral token
Miku?? Hastune Miku????
viral token
Yeah!! 😍
glass quail
and how-where you interpret that relationship is cool
trim turret
i mean is there any other miku
glass quail
as far as Vocaloids, personally I think Red would go better with Gakupo but thats just me
viral token
no, I suppose not....
trim turret
who
viral token
I LOOVE how all the Functions, connected to their people/users, have backstories, and I guess you're right, we are free to fill in the details ourselves, and that's what's so cool....
lofty aurora
I'm not sure I would have appreciated Transistor as much if I hadn't played Dark Souls beforehand
so I'm glad I did
upbeat sky
Is it ever explained exactly what a “trace” is? Why they have the effects they do on the transistor?
lofty aurora
because they are both in my top 3 favorite games
viral token
Arg, I gotta peace out. See all of you fantastic people later!!!!
graceful cave
also doesn't sybil's trace have some sort of heart/pink aesthetic with one of its uses?
trim turret
well you see, in the series fate/stay night, shirou uses trace-on as a means to...
glass quail
@trim turret Gakupo? He's the purple-haired one based off the same guy who voiced Genesis in FF Crisis Core
viral token
What? How does appreciatng Dark Souls have to do with Transistor....?
lofty aurora
See ya!
glass quail
whos an actual japanese singer
Dark Souls Lore is like
all implied
and in object text
graceful cave
no that's another character
trim turret
very heavy implications
viral token
I think a Trace is like their soul, which is then uploaded and "translated" into a Function based on who they were when alive....
lofty aurora
Because I played Dark Souls I grew to appreciated subtext and cryptic lore more, which is definitely present in Transistor. So since I played Dark Souls first I appreciated Transistor more than I would have otherwise
viral token
ohhhh, cool!
That's great!
I've never played that before; heard it's hard, though.
trim turret
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah it is
graceful cave
also i wanna say that the designs for all the trace characters are. amazing and tbh my only dissapointment with the game is that there wasn't anything done with them
trim turret
they were used as stepping stones LMAO
graceful cave
i think it'd be amazing to see an animated anthology series that handles vignettes into their lives before they were processed if the world were ever to get extensions
spring plover
ok i got text, lemme clean up the formatting
Background
Most children learn to stop asking 'why', but Mr. Asher Kendrell never outgrew it. His hunger for knowledge and his eagerness to spread it made him a prolific writer, who enjoyed a career as a culture-and-current-events editor for OVC. When Mr. Kendrell wasn't busy reporting, he occupied himself studying the history of his city. But the deeper he delved, the more frustrated he became with all the dead ends and contradictions. The facts simply did not add up, so he started piecing together the unwritten history of Cloudbank. He conducted interviews with venerable members of society, those who willingly worked past retirement age or could speak first-hand about the past. The most remarkable among them was an administrator.
Secrets
Mr. Kendrell was struck by the administrator's wisdom and depth of experience, and the two shared a passion for seeking the truth of things, and for much more, as it turned out. One day the administrator took Mr. Kendrell aside to a place unlike any he'd seen before, and revealed to him something he never could have imagined. With it, the administrator said, together they could learn so much -- about the past, and about the future -- as long as Mr. Kendrell was willing to keep it a secret. Mr. Kendrell accepted without a second thought. The administrator was much more to him than just a source at this point.
Goals
Mr. Kendrell continued writing for OVC, now with an ulterior motive, having joined the administrator's inner circle. The administrator needed someone like Asher to help keep a low profile, someone who could speak directly to the hearts and minds of the population, and truly understand their needs. That way, they could conduct their work in service of the people. Cloudbank would enter a new era.```so does anyone know when when you start the game a second time, that one villain dude is the person that says the beginning sentence?
graceful cave
maybe have some sort of like. element of the traces interacting with each there after processing to link the vignettes together or have some sort of play off of what their stories mean to the core themes
it's so the game begins and ends with a brackett, like a function or method in real programming
thats the best i got
o've never been able to decipher it past that
spring plover
Background
Known in elite social circles throughout Cloudbank, Ms. Sybil Reisz organized many of the city's popular public events, from ground-breaking ceremonies to contemporary festivals. She was everywhere, and yet somehow she made time to lead a second, hidden life. As one of the Camerata, Ms. Reisz was responsible for gathering information about potential high-value targets, people who could contribute to their cause. She did this job to perfection, drawing no notice, though one target in particular caused her much frustration.
Meeting Red
Ms. Reisz met Red while putting together a small program for up-and-coming artists, and became infatuated first with Red's music then with her. According to diary entries there was something inscrutable and confident about Red that Ms. Reisz could not explain. However, Ms. Reisz was frustrated to find that Red grew distant. Through all this, Ms. Reisz observed the aloofness of one of Red's companions, and decided he must have been insinuating Red against her. Ms. Reisz thought through various ways to rectify this.
Recommendations
One night Ms. Reisz nominated Red as a target for her Camerata colleagues, citing Red's surging popularity in the city and her unusual set of selections. Red could substantially advance the Camerata's agenda, and was not yet so ubiquitous that her sudden disappearance couldn't be sufficiently disguised. Ms. Reisz promised that the Camerata could get to Red at a time when she would be completely alone. Trace data reveals an 85% chance she falsified this claim.```the text in transistor is so much easier to clean than pyre's....
misty rapids
Thank for text
frail fulcrum
Is recursion considered canon? Like in Bastion?
fringe ledge
@frail fulcrum definition I found for recursion is interesting
"a computer programming technique involving the use of a procedure, subroutine, function, or algorithm that calls itself one or more times until a specified condition is met at which time the rest of each repetition is processed from the last one called to the first"
jolly radish
late but ah, if there's one thing i wish we'd gotten to see explored in greater detail in transistor it's grant and asher's relationship...
(well, that and that good good bracket content but i have a tiny but of a bias)
but the story is so dense as it is
manic lava
dude dlc where it's a vn of grant and asher's everyday life
blissful blaze
the true genius of recursion
is that it begins and ends
with a bracket
🥁 ba-dum tsh 🥁
dire pollen
oh my gosh
jolly radish
honestly transistor has one of those settings where i just genuinely want to see the slice of life content
of course the fact that it's just out of reach is probably what makes it seem so appealing...
but cloudbank seemed pretty rad when it wasn't actively being deleted
babs i'd fund that
i bet whatever courtship occurred there was cute
dire pollen
same, it's probably one of the top fictional places I'd want to visit
those credit drawings of red and boxer really really made me curious about the day-to-day life there
manic lava
hey canon fact: asher's cat vitriolically hates everyone except asher BUT it likes grant too and that's how asher knew grant was the one
jolly radish
lfnanfvdj
is asher's cat the only like. non-process animal we see?
i guess there are birds too aren't there
manic lava
mmmaybe
full peak
@jolly radish i always thought if transistor were to be turned into a show, you could spend an entire season with each episode episode respectivdely focussing on the the camerata's targets and how they lived their lives before getting attacked, building up to the events that happen in Transistor with Red (I dont know if that makes sense)
respectively*
manic lava
that'd be cool as hell
dire pollen
I need it
viral token
That'd be awesome!
jolly radish
haha it's funny you say that, i'm watching oitnb right now and imagining that sort of timeskip style of storytelling
rigid hull
One of the reasons I love Transistor is how subtle a lot of the story is. If you never read the text closely, you could miss so much.
I never noticed Grant and Asher sharing a last name until after my first playthrough and taking a moment to browse online for more info that I might’ve missed. 😄 Second playthrough I paid a bit more close attention to things, especially the text you see before interacting with terminals (like the missing person report going up by the thousands as you watch).
mortal pilot
It's defenetly not an on-your-face story with characters spouting out exposition, the characters don't feel like they're there just to drive the plot, they feel a bit more real than that
Which yeah, it's great. I just think Transistor has a bunch of elements that make it feel fresh, be it the way that it's written or the gameplay
tough galleon
Asher always wanted to die with the one he loved
I guess you could say that his wish was
Granted
viral token
oh my gosh
rare moth
hey does anyone have a cap of the overload-function lost screen?
languid trail
The first time I played, when Asher first mentions Grant I thought "People ship these two so hard dont they" then when I saw their bios and that they shared a last name my head exploded XD
rare moth
people ship them....bc they ship each other lol
full peak
@rare moth i think i have what youre looking for but cant seem to send pictures on here
rare moth
can you dm me pls
full peak
@mortal pilot yeah, i really like the subtlety of transistor, and the characters are pretty well developed considered how short the game is. they arent good or bad, the camerata do crappy things but when you look at it from their perspective you can sympathize a bit
viral token
Oh, you totally can. They started off trying to do something good, but it...spiraled drastically out of control. They confess, they barricade themselves in because they can't take the Process--which I love. Their mistake had grown so huge they were unable to handle it. You relate to them and kind of feel sorry for them at the same time....I always like/admire that part, because it gives them so much depth from that fact alone!
cedar grove
👏 👏 👏
calm jackal
Which limiter was the hardest for you?
jolly radish
the one that doesn't let you uninstall functions without breaking them tbh
i am far too inattentive for that
or the one that seriously reduces mem...
full peak
Pyre and bastion with full handicap are hard but transistor with all limiters, how do you guys not go mad ? I'd flip it.
Well, congrats 👏
full peak
the protected cells one is the hardest
ping() + jaunt() as a backup usually does it tho
violet nimbus
guh I had to take off protected cells I think when I reached the spine
full peak
i found a really good loadout (i think thats what it's called?)
i dont know if i wanna post it tho, dont wanna ruin the achievement or whatever
calm jackal
protected cells are weak to spark
there's plenty of good loadouts floating around for those who want them
the most boring possible good loadout is spark(switch())
in my first playthrough, that's how i got through man
and also bounce on passive
anyone here made ping viable?
full peak
ping has saved my life
like there would be times where my tap would overload and i would have nothing else but ping to attack with
underrated function smh
slow ridge
I don't care if it is the worst attack in the game, but the sound of it firing makes it one of my favorites
It's so chunky and rapid firing, I love it
full peak
its fun to spam
calm jackal
i love the animation
full peak
The brapbrap is really funny but it's just so weak
calm jackal
did yall notice that they specifically nerfed the interaction between ping and crash? crash doesn't apply its full debuff if done through ping
imagine a world in the sgg labs where ping was actually "too good"
slow ridge
Slander!
full peak
Was there other nerfs/buffs ?
calm jackal
seems like ping switch would be another candidate, but I don't remember
full peak
Mainly used load on launch and still do but it never seemed to have changed
calm jackal
load on passive has saved me so many times
slow ridge
I'm dubbing Ping as Lars Ulrich, the drummer from Metallica, that everyone puts up with but no one really likes