bastion

[spring bloom]

pushing things off the edge of the map with increased range musket

[loud ridge]

The machete was so good

[spring bloom]

machete’s a solid weapon, but the machete chanllenge is quite frustrating

[open python]

gods it is

[loud ridge]

Oh yeah

At least it was fun

I never did the shield challenge lmao

[open python]

I managed to get stuck on one of those outer platforms at least once or twice

Not quite as bad as soft locking the tutorial though, because unlike that, I was eventually able to get off

[spring bloom]

happy little squirts, bobbing out of range

the only challenge i couldn’t complete at all was the last one

[open python]

The cannon thingy?

[spring bloom]

yeah

[open python]

That one took a couple tries, yeah

[loud ridge]

Where you have to shoot everything at once?

[spring bloom]

i just took my damage achievement and left

[open python]

Though I just didn't understand it the first time lmao

No idea what I was supposed to do

Got it the second or third time iirc

[spring bloom]

where you have to defend an area against gasfellas

turrets or some sort of statues?

[open python]

Yeah

Statues I think

But because of the AoE, you couldn't hit them if they got too close

[loud ridge]

oh yeah

I think that one had really stingy requirements for the first prize

I think I cheesed it but idr how

[spring bloom]

if you ever remember let me know, i’ve never even passed it

[halcyon crest]

If I recall first prize on that is no statues destroyed, but I recall that it was also pretty easy with everything put into the left side so that reloading and charging up took basically no time at all. You could go for the extra damage instead of the reload speed though.

[spring bloom]

oh, upgrade it first. there’s my problem

[delicate plank]

Any bow+machete crew in here?

Gotta go fast~~

[novel schooner]

im spear pistols gang 😎

[hollow pilot]

hi, im new to bastion

army carbine or galleon mortar?
which is better cuz can't decide both :(

[tidal echo]

I always prefer carbine

[open python]

A lot of the weapons come down to preference and playstyle

[spring bloom]

it’s quite interesting seeing the different combinations people prefer

personally i’d probably go with the mortar myself

[hollow pilot]

and yea

i choose mortar, also
||what's the point of leave zulf and restore? he will still be alive back right? cuz i accidentally picked restoration instead of evacuation ||

[hollow pilot]

Yes, he will be alright.

[red pawn]

Just got bastion recently and it's awesome

[delicate plank]

Where is the lie though 💕

What's your favorite thing so far?

[hollow pilot]

3rd time repeating bastion

idk how i fell in love with brusher's pike

[red pawn]

My favorite thing so far is probably the proving grounds but I rewrote this message 3 times so there's a lot of awesome stuff

I'm really happy I found supergiant all of their games so far have been awesome

[hollow pilot]

i rarely play proving grounds

and i love bow one

[spring bloom]

i try them all at least once. the bow one is very satisfying

[red pawn]

I like the shield one

[faint saffron]

I always disliked the Fang one, but I'm replaying Bastion on Switch currently and it's actually not that bad. The Pistols one was fun as well, quite intense 😉

[red pawn]

I think I have the fang one unlocked so I'll probably try that

I could also progress the story but I'm gonna 100% so I'm gonna do all proving grounds

[arctic summit]

just bought bastion for 3 cents on switch

i just discovered it was on switch and ive wanted to try it

oh yeah theres so much hades DNA here

yeah this feels like a slower paced hades, and a lot of the weapons feel similar to the ones in hades

[wet cloak]

i just got it on switch last night bc i saw it was on sale

eager to try

[hollow pilot]

try it

[chrome grove]

i only ever beat bastion once, and then i didnt play it anymore, but hades has me wanting to revisit bastion again

[wise loom]

Bit late to rep the gang. Am I an honorary member if I rep machete and carbine? It's the real Rucks playstyle.

[chrome hinge]

Hue hue part of the sale buyers and am really enjoying it-I'm super early in though-I think

[misty lagoon]

Bless Bastion being on sale on the switch, instant buy!

[faint saffron]

It plays so well on Switch and still, after all these years, looks amazing! It's a shame we can't rebind the controls, but it's not that hard to Get Used To It.

And I'm really enjoying critical Machete and Bow a lot.

[fiery oriole]

I've just started replaying Bastion for the first time in years, and I think my time playing Hades has vastly upped my skill level

[chrome hinge]

80% of my gameplay so far is:
"How am I supposed to evade that???"
The game 20 minutes later:
"YOU HAVE A SHIELD."
"oh"

[thick pike]

I was introduced to sg purely through Switch sales so I have nintendo to thank

Shielding saved my būtt on multiple occasions

[cedar patio]

i loved using the shield on the turrets

[hollow pilot]

until you meet the inferno tower-like turrets

[red pawn]

Sg is a really good company I'm probably going to get all of their games after playing hades and now bastion

This should go In general sry for that

[ancient cape]

ive only played bastionand some transistor lol

[wanton dune]

Started playing bastion now that I’m taking a break from hades and I see how the weapons in hades are inspired by bastion. The game still holds up even years later except for the targeting system

[red pawn]

agreement noises

[crisp python]

The similarity of the weapons between Bastion and Hades was one of the first things I noticed too. I like rail because it's a fusion between galleon mortar and fang repeater.

[wanton dune]

Does bastion's controls and targeting system feel clunky to anyone else?

I have trouble with some of the proving grounds

I keep barely missing the second prize for war machete's proving grounds

Bastion's controls infuriate me in the proving grounds sometimes. Is there anything unique that I can only get in proving grounds?

I hope not because the proving grounds are frustrating me

[open python]

the machete's proving grounds are super hard for me

I'm pretty sure they mostly just give upgrade parts?

[tranquil kindle]

third price is always a hidden technique for that weapon iirc

for machete one, try killing the non spawning thingies (can’t remember the name sry) first. The ones that get produced run towards you, while the others try to escape in random patterns. I also remember that almost every proving ground area becomes easier after upgrading your weapons

[novel schooner]

its less that the targeting is clunky and more so that its just not hitting since the machete doesnt travel like per say the bow iirc

i ran pistols and spear and it felt fine but throwing the machete required a bit more effort tbh knowing when a good time is

specifically for that proving ground(the hardest for me) i sat in the center jjst killing as many as i could that were spawning since otherwise they will be all over the place and take forever. after that its really just running around and hitting things. its difficult to throw things at the squirts so id advise against it unless you know you can get a good hit in

my upgrades for the machete too were like 1 in cripple and 1 extra machete and the rest were attack and crit related iirc

[wanton dune]

I finally got the second prize for machete

[cedar patio]

congrats!

[wise loom]

Tip for the machete, get as many upgrades as possible, spec it for throwing more blades. Easiest way to get hits on the squirts that run.

[wanton dune]

I got the second place prize but I’ll try that for first prize

If I decide to do that

I’m not going for first prizes on anything yet

[wise loom]

I played way, way, way too much Bastion back in the day. Like, cleared all proving grounds with first place multiple times. And the machete is totally my favorite melee weapon in the game, but the machete proving grounds is so much harder than it should be.

[wanton dune]

Ok so I’m not the only one who finds that frustrating

[wise loom]

However, the special skill you get from it is insanely good for the machete.

The first place prize is a skill called ghost blade, which is super nuts for the combo I ran. I usually ran machete and carbine.

Ahem, darn, I need to play bastion again. Almost forgot a particular rule for this server.

A few of the other proving grounds can be annoying. The hammer one was always a pain to me, the shield challenge is long and time consuming. Some of the challenges become super easy with the right set of upgrades, though. Like the homing bullets on the repeater.

[mint portal]

Nah, you’re not alone. The machete proving ground is by far the most infuriating.

[wanton dune]

How much extra damage are critical hits in Bastion?

[boreal oyster]

replayed bastion for the first time in years
i forgot just how good it was

[boreal oyster]

machete + musket gang

[tidal echo]

repeater pistol + army carbine gang

[peak whale]

calamity rocket + mortar gang

[boreal oyster]

i used to really dislike the pistols but i've warmed up to them

[tidal echo]

pew pew

[boreal oyster]

the calamity cannon is really fun too

[peak whale]

honestly i like the overkill combination

because actually effective and also funny

[boreal oyster]

haven't tried calamity cannon + mortar, it seems a bit too slow for my taste

[peak whale]

mortar and be used to fend off close range and zone while cannon can delete a bunch of enemies

its how i use them anyways

[boreal oyster]

that's reasonable

i honestly rely mostly on the musket when i play, with the double shot upgrade and a few others it just carries hard

only thing it's not that good against is ura

[peak whale]

i hate the ura ngl

very annoying

[boreal oyster]

yeah they're annoying to fight
tons of health, moving around really fast
i especially hate the poison arrow guys

[peak whale]

especially the cluckers of them (i forgot the name of those rock-flingers)

[boreal oyster]

the rattle-tails?

yeah those are annoying but not as much since it's not as hard to dodge them

[peak whale]

true but killing them is the worst part

[boreal oyster]

ye

[boreal oyster]

what are y'all's favorite areas, atmosphere-wise?

mine is probably jawson bog

[peak whale]

the Outlands

[boreal oyster]

the outlands?

[peak whale]

the place with i think

the final spot where you get the uh

core

the place that looks much more whole than the other areas

wait- its called the outer wilds isnt it

[boreal oyster]

oh yeah
the wild outskirts
that was a good introduction to the wilds in general
the wilds just has an amazing design throughout

[peak whale]

yeah

[cedar patio]

the wilds is a great section

it really goes with the feel of the game, this sort of wild west feeling the game has

[boreal oyster]

it does

plus it has some of the best levels in the game

places like point lemaign and jawson bog

[cedar patio]

jawson big is the best level, narratively speaking

you learn SO much abt the Kid and there's so much to dissect

[boreal oyster]

yeah
the kid is a really interesting character, even though we don't see a lot of characterization for him except in a select few places

also, imo the tazal terminals is up there competing with jawson bog for best narrative level

[cedar patio]

yeah tatzel terminals is also a really good place

i want to replay this game so bad 😭

[boreal oyster]

||the final section if you choose to save zulf is just so, so good||
||the fact that the ura stop shooting at you after a while hits so hard||
nvm spoiling this for safety even though it says spoilers are ok

[peak whale]

im not that far yet

[boreal oyster]

oh

i'm really sorry

thought i could just talk about it since the channel description

[peak whale]

tru

[boreal oyster]

didn't mean to lessen your experience

[peak whale]

but aaaa

i need to finish the game now

[boreal oyster]

you go do that
sorry that i accidentally spoiled that for you, but the experience is still really good even if you already know that part

still worth doing

[cedar patio]

wow i just looked it up and july 20th marks bastion's 10 yr anniversary

[boreal oyster]

yeah

[tidal echo]

10 years! Holy bejeebus

I remember playing it when I was a wee lad of 6

[wise loom]

A musket and a carbine aren't that different, so I'll join the gang.

[boreal oyster]

eh, those two are pretty different

[boreal oyster]

carbine is really fun tho

[leaden slate]

bastion

[hybrid coral]

bastion

[boreal oyster]

bastion

[chrome hinge]

bastion

[spring bloom]

oh no

[meager gazelle]

Remember the Bastion

[boreal oyster]

rucks can't tell me what to do, he's not my dad

[cedar patio]

rucks should be thrown in the garbage

[boreal oyster]

nooooo

rucks good

[cedar patio]

war criminal

[boreal oyster]

wait he was just the guy who designed the bastion
i know he was a high level mancer but afaik he didn't actually work on the ||project to eliminate the ura||

[cedar patio]

he didn't specifically work on that but he was well aware of what was happening and didn't make any move to stop, not seemed particularly opposed to it

the calamity cannon & his rxn to it is also a pretty good representation of that

[boreal oyster]

did he even have the power to stop it?
if he wasn't opposed to it, why did he build a machine specifically intended to undo something like that
he doesn't seem to hate the ura, and he's pretty clearly regretful in the game
also what does rxn mean

[cedar patio]

oh rxn means reaction

[boreal oyster]

oh

i guess i just like to see the best in characters i like
and i really like rucks
his character hits a lot of the tropes i enjoy

[cedar patio]

i mean he does have regrets but it's very... surface. he has his regrets but that's something that comes about a lot because the calamity didn't go as planned. he was ok with the calamity; he had that whole bit of never having another war and it's not based in a "all ura deserve to die" but its still "genocide is an acceptable solution" which is pretty bad. even if he couldn't have changed what happened he was still ok with it happening and was complicit in it. there's also the matter of the calamity cannon. it's an absolutely horrendous weapon and when the Kid picks it up rucks days he should "finish what the calamity started" which is a really telling piece of dialogue there. how regretful can he be if he's okay with the genocide being successful?

and like i do like rucks as a character and i think he's interesting but yeah he's a war criminal

[spring bloom]

he doesn’t strike me as a supporter of genocide. he seems to be more of a “that’s just the way the world works and none of us can change it” kind of person. which might not necessarily be better, but it’s different from resenting the ura specifically

[cedar patio]

i mean it's not about the feelings of on the ura but he did very much know a genocide was planned and accepted it. he talks about how he didn't want another war and this was a solution he was okay with. he's not like "wow genocide is so cool i love genocide" but he does treat it as a viable option. he is a very "the ends justify the means" type of character and his feelings on the calamity reflect that. and again the calamity cannon says a lot about rucks.

[spring bloom]

but that’s just it, right? he doesn’t really think that genocide is okay, and regrets that it has to happen that way. but the fact that he believes it has to happen that way shows him to be a person who has morals (or a ghost of them), but believes that those morals won’t really matter or make a difference in the world. so he sets them aside and deals with the sleepless nights (so to speak). he’s not callous so much as he’s disillusioned

[cedar patio]

but the calamity cannon

like this is a Big thing because it's a horrendous weapon and rucks not only encourages the use of it, but in the proving grounds it's mentioned that it was created in an area overlooking the tazal terminals

and he's like fine with this

i mean the "finish what the calamity started" line is horrific and really shows that he's not actually as regretful as he says

[spring bloom]

sure, but:

1. when you believe people are basically bad, there’s a lot that you’ll put up with

2. i am unclear on how autocratic the caelondian government was: they seem to be rather militaristic, which is a mark of an autocracy. what happens when you show dissent? are you persecuted or merely ignored? will your family and friends be in danger?

all of this could lead to someone like rucks favouring an easy decision, even if he knows it’s not the right one

[cedar patio]

that still doesn't make his actions excusable nor stop him from being a war criminal

[spring bloom]

definitely not, i’m not arguing that point. however, it does mean he can be shown a better way to do things, and perhaps take such a lesson to heart, as indicated when the kid chooses evacuation, thus breaking a cycle of violence he didn’t think could be broken

[cedar patio]

it is a possibility

[boreal oyster]

wait how is the calamity cannon a horrendous weapon
isn't it essentially a rocket launcher
instant, relatively painless death for anyone on the receiving end

but you make a lot of good points, you've helped me realize some stuff
as for the "finish what the calamity started" line, i always interpreted that as him just being cynical and defeatist, not really sincere
plus the fact that he wants to undo it all anyway, so in his view whatever the kid has to do to get the shard is justified because it goes toward the restoration so it could be viewed that it doesn't really matter in the end

but yeah, that doesn't make his actions excusable
he thinks that the ends justify the means as you said which is definitely bad
but i would argue that he's still deeply regretful, which is one of the main driving forces behind all his insistence on the restoration effort
he's an extremely morally gray character, but i feel like i can still like him

[lime kite]

^

[zenith smelt]

I always saw "finish what the calamity started" as just a bit of cynical dark humor from him, not genuinely wanted to wipe out the rest of the ura

[boreal oyster]

yeah

[spring bloom]

^

[boreal oyster]

i just can't see rucks as someone holding racial hatred

[cedar patio]

i call the calamity cannon a horrendous weapon because it's just calamity lite™️ in the proving grounds text rucks says specifically that the mancers tested it while overlooking the terminals, with the intent to use it on the Ura. it was created to enhance a genocide.

i wouldn't say one can't like rucks, as a character doesn't need to be morally pure ("pure") to be likeable. i like him quite a lot. but honestly i see a lot of "rucks felt bad so everything is ok" (which is often paired with "Zulf inconvenienced me so he deserves to die") and not a lot of nuance when examining rucks's character and motivations.

i will hold that i don't view that as a joke. just the tone of his voice doesn't set that off for me. it's another ends justify the means thing-- it's not about his feelings on the Ura, it's about them being in the way. with them gone the Kid can get everything he needs and they can restore and everything will be fine. it ties back in with his feelings on the genocide. no Ura, no war. finish what was started and it'll be fine because you'll go back and undo it and it'll be ok.

sorry for the absolute wall of text i am Passionate about this game

[spring bloom]

actually, this discussion got me thinking about rucks and zulf. i can't help wondering if rucks was an idealist like zulf at some point, but like zulf, discovered a terrible truth of how cruel/unfeeling people can be, and changed his worldview

[cedar patio]

it could be that, something like that would be really interesting to explore

i viewed rucks' past as like he was drafted into the war as a teen (the war was 50 yrs ago and i set his age at ~65) and it starts as a very excited fighting the good fight sort of thing and then he's in combat and sees how horrific everything really is

[spring bloom]

it's the thought that you could broker a lasting peace between two warring nations, crushed by the realization that one side would rather wipe out their enemy completely instead

which, come to think of it, is a theme present in pyre as well

[boreal oyster]

yeah i don't want to excuse the things rucks has done
but i do hope that he finds peace in the evacuation ending
you can hear his existential weariness in a lot of his lines near the end of the game
same with zulf
sure nearly destroying the bastion was bad, but his reaction was completely reasonable considering what was in the journal
and he gave the kid a chance to back out and stop peacefully
which is why i can't fathom ever not saving zulf

rucks undoubtedly made a horrible choice, a decision that was in his power to make
but we can somewhat understand why he did it while acknowledging the moral failure
he would have had to be really desperate to make the fighting and all the horrors that came with it stop to do what he did

[cedar patio]

it's wild to me when i see people be like "rucks being complicit in genocide was ok because he feels bad about it but zulf destroying the bastion means he deserves death"

there's like. almost a lack of empathy with that

[tidal echo]

most leikly because rucks is the character you're with the most and painted as the ally and the good guy for most of the game while the Ura and zulf in specificare painted as the nemies until the near end of it

[spring bloom]

doesn't make sense to me either, i'd rather show everyone empathy. people could think that way because zulf's turn affects the player directly, while rucks's deeds happened before the events of the game

[cedar patio]

ftr im not saying these people lack empathy overall

[spring bloom]

lol my comment comes across as a bit self-righeous. not meant to be that way

but in esscence, rucks is helping you build the bastion, zulf undoes your hard work

which is why some players may resent zulf: his "betrayal" feels more personal, even though it isn't

[cedar patio]

tbh i wish there was more pushback against rucks in game bc this is how you get stuff like that. i understand that the game is about rucks and he's the main character and the narrator so obviously everything is going to be colored in his favor. but i think there should have been just a little more "rucks did something very terrible and that is something that reflects his character bc he thought genocide was a viable solution" bc you get a lot of people taking that uncritically

[spring bloom]

i think it's a case of thinking in short-term/details vs. long-term/the big picture

there's also still a lot we don't know about rucks (unless you've made it through the stranger's (?) dream sequence in ng+, which i haven't

he doesn't speak super frankly about his feelings, or how he got to be where he ended up

more context may allow for more accurate judgement

[boreal oyster]

stranger's dream is just an alphabet book

not actually rucks' past

characters that do indisputably bad things yet can be understood and even felt sorry for are some of my favorite kinds of characters
and yeah, zulf is morally better than rucks imo
i don't personally see the lack of expansion on rucks' past as a flaw in the game, mostly because he's supposed to be the one you don't know too much about in comparison to the rest of the gang

i agree with the other stuff you're saying tho

[hollow pilot]

This is a little reductive.

[spring bloom]

this is all true, it just means that we can't fully judge rucks because we don't have all the info

he's complex: that's about all

[hollow pilot]

Yes, he worked on the Calamity project, and the game could have used some more "Rucks is a war criminal, what the hell?" in it, but at the point that Zulf attacks the Bastion he's putting everyone's survival in jeopardy, and to Rucks' credit he explicitly opposed firing the Calamity and is now trying to fix it.

[spring bloom]

"fix it" = "undo it" which to zulf may mean that he's trying to give the calamity an old redo (but this time have it work as intended)

he doesn't want the old system brought back, which is all that he knows the bastion will do

[hollow pilot]

That's a possible line for Zulf to follow.

[cedar patio]

how is he putting everyone's survival into jeopardy?

[hollow pilot]

Because the Terminals aren't stable. Caelondia and the surrounding country isn't safe for humans to survive in.

It's been a while since I've played, I don't remember how late into the game Evacuation is presented as an option.

It could have been at the very very end when you make it back.

[spring bloom]

how do you know? the wilds might be dangerous, but they're not unlivable.

it's at the end

rucks doesn't think of evac as a viable option, but zia does, as can the kid

[hollow pilot]

I remember Rucks being emotionally drawn to Restoration.

He's carrying the guilt for the work he did on the Calamity project, and he wants to undo that entirely.

[cedar patio]

no amount of guilt is going to free him from being complicit in genocide

[hollow pilot]

Of course not.

His intention, before you actually try Restoration and find out that no one's memories are safe, it's a literal rewind, is to stop the Calamity from firing again.

Again, I agree that this does not undo the work that he did to make the Calamity possible in the first place.

[spring bloom]

he admits himself, however, that he's not sure whether this will prevent the calamity from occurring again

[hollow pilot]

And bombing the only safe place on the continent (?) 1) Makes sure that everyone who died in the first place stays dead and 2) puts the lives of everyone else left at risk.

[spring bloom]

again, it's not necessarily the only place you could live. the wilds are more stable than the city centres, and carry an abundance of food

sure they're dangerous, but people are quite hardy

[cedar patio]

i mean zia did pretty well on her own on prosper bluff

[hollow pilot]

What's the time scale of the plot?

[cedar patio]

iirc it takes a week to find zia but there's no timeline given otherwise

[boreal oyster]

i always thought they would go to the motherland in the evacuation ending

[cedar patio]

that's what rucks said he wanted to do

[boreal oyster]

and he seems to be the captain
it's not like the rest of caelondia/wilds/ura territory isn't literally falling apart

[hollow pilot]

That week to find Zia, is that the first encounter or after she leaves with Zulf and other Ura?

[cedar patio]

after she leaves

[hollow pilot]

Cool, thanks.

[spring bloom]

which brings up another few questions: how big is the world, and how far did the calamity reach?

[boreal oyster]

probably not all the way across the boundless sea

[hollow pilot]

I'm assuming just Caelondia and the surrounding land. It was originally intended to just hit the Tazal Terminals.

Evacuation only even is an option because there's safe land away from Caelondia, but there's either no transportation to it besides the Bastion or Rucks is more concerned with trying Restoration first.

[spring bloom]

if the calamity was only meant to hit the tazal terminals, the radius isn't too big for someone to escape

[hollow pilot]

It was only meant to.

Zia's father sabotaged it.

Hence why when Caelondian leadership activated it the whole continent went.

[spring bloom]

which changed its target, but not its size

did it even reach into the wilds?

[hollow pilot]

Yes.

[boreal oyster]

rucks wants restoration, zia wants evacuation
rucks wants restoration so he can erase his failures, zia wants evacuation because she wasn't happy before the calamity

[hollow pilot]

That's why the game is built the way it is, with the moving bits of land, and how the Kid can fall off any map.

[boreal oyster]

yeah ^

ultimately, evacuation is good for rucks as well because he needs to actually be able to live with what he's done and move on, choosing to do good and help the others he can

[spring bloom]

^^

[cedar patio]

something i saw recently that i think is interesting:
It [the calamity cannon] shows that he [rucks] learned nothing from the Calamity; he was complicit in making the Calamity, but doesn't see anything wrong in the processes that led to the Calamity (i.e. Caelondia's xenophobia), but only in the outcome of the Calamity occurring.

It's the same reason why he pushes you to choose the Restoration ending over the Evacuation ending; he doesn't believe that Caelondia was wrong, and thus doesn't believe the Calamity could happen again.

[boreal oyster]

huh
where is this from?

[spring bloom]

by the time the cannon is introduced, peace with the ura seems unattainable (after all, they did attack the bastion). but rucks does have a military mind, so it is true that he may be more likely to respond with force of his own, if there's a chance of it leading to a positive outcome

[hollow pilot]

I'm not saying those excerpts aren't legitimate interpretations of Rucks' character, but they're not backed up that textually by the game.

[spring bloom]

i'm curious as well. an essay/analysis?

[hollow pilot]

inb4 it's Greg's Twitter and I have to eat my words.

[spring bloom]

yet, he does tell zia that he's not 100% sure of that when she asks, iirc

[boreal oyster]

this is a totally valid interpretation
i personally interpret it differently
imo there's really not enough evidence to say any one interpretation is overwhelmingly canon
again, because rucks isn't expanded upon a lot

[hollow pilot]

To wrap this all back to where it started, I'm not giving Rucks a clean pass just because he regrets his work on/the firing of the Calamity, and I didn't look to put Zulf six feet under just because he pulled a Face-Heel Turn.

[boreal oyster]

same for me

zulf just needs a hug

[hollow pilot]

Zulf snapping is tragic.

Top 5 tragic moment in all of SGG's work.

[boreal oyster]

yeah

[open python]

I accidentally opted to leave him behind and I was very sad because I hadn't meant to

[hollow pilot]

But he did leave the Kid (and I think Zia? I remember her leaving and the attack on the Bastion being seperate events) to die. I didn't think that saving Zulf would result in a Bad Ending, but I personally would not have put my life at risk for someone whose last actions and words in my direction were to condemn me to die.

[boreal oyster]

zia left with the ura after the attack on the bastion

i will always, always save sulf

[spring bloom]

to learn about her people, yes

[boreal oyster]

*zulf

[hollow pilot]

Especially in as close to an actual End of the World scenario as Caelondia post-Calamity.

[spring bloom]

he's not aiming to kill anyone, just to destroy the device that could bring back a status quo stacked against his people

[boreal oyster]

^

[hollow pilot]

Caelondia isn't safe.

[spring bloom]

he's showed openness and kindness to people who, for all he knows, were lying through their smiles and actually wanted him dead

[cedar patio]

and a restored caelondia is not safe for the ura

[boreal oyster]

exactly

[cedar patio]

and does he not deserve redemption, like rucks? does he not deserve a chance to make up for what he had done, like rucks?

[hollow pilot]

I don't disagree with that idea.

But in the moment, in a him-or-me decision, I'm picking me every time.

Again, Rucks has spent the entirety of the game trying to undo what had happened.

Yes, Caelondia is a superpower that's breathing down the Ura's neck.

But unless we're going to take the least charitable possible interpretations of Rucks' words at that point, which you could argue Zulf would or even should at that point, he still was against activating the Calamity, and he tells the player that.

Zulf's actions come down to revenge against a proxy, including an innocent person who's saved Zulf's life at least once at that point.

[spring bloom]

what good is such a sentiment after the calamity already happened?

zulf doesn't target rucks, he targets the bastion

and if it weren't for zia's father, zulf would be the one with no people left

[hollow pilot]

The Bastion isn't the mechanism behind the Calamity.

[cedar patio]

but it is the mechanism that will bring about the calamity again

[spring bloom]

it's the mechanism that will reset things, though

^^

[hollow pilot]

Zulf doesn't know that.

[spring bloom]

he read the journal: he knows

[cedar patio]

the notebook mentions reseting, doesn't it?

[spring bloom]

may not have made it as far as the evac part, though :)

[cedar patio]

it's been a really long time since i've gotten to the end of bastion but iirc evac is sort of a weird thing anyway? like it wasn't really intended for that

[boreal oyster]

zulf read the entire journal iirc

[spring bloom]

otherwise why destroy the core

[boreal oyster]

yeah it's an auxiliary function

[spring bloom]

that clears things up!

[cedar patio]

zulf reads this journal and he learns about restoration and he knows that things will reset and the calamity will happen again. and even if they stopped the calamity, that wouldn't repair any of the relations between the ura and caels. ura in the terminal would still suffer from the plague and ura in the city still suffer from xenophobia

[hollow pilot]

Doing a little reading and all I'm seeing is that the journal says that Caelondia designed the Calamity.

Rucks is the only source of information on the Bastion itself.

[spring bloom]

zulf and rucks did exchange words before zulf left. he could have learned about the bastion's purpose then

[hollow pilot]

That's speculation, then, and you shouldn't be basing hard opinions on it.

[spring bloom]

he smashed the core, though. specifically

[boreal oyster]

i never understood how zulf damaged the bastion like that by smashing just one core
aren't there multiple?

[hollow pilot]

No, just the one.

You add multiple shards to it.

I think it's entirely possible that Rucks told Zulf and Zia what the Bastion did while the Kid was out collecting shards.

[boreal oyster]

oh you're talking about core as in center not core as in blue rock

that makes more sense

also, only tangentially related:
how old do yall think the main characters are

[hollow pilot]

The Kid is at most 18.

[cedar patio]

i'd argue against that

[hollow pilot]

Zulf and Zia are likely in their 20s, maybe Zulf is in his early 30s.

[boreal oyster]

that would make him like 8 when he first started on the walls

[cedar patio]

not to sound confrontational

he's been in 1+ tour. so less than 10 yrs but more than 5

[hollow pilot]

He's on his second tour when the Calamity went off.

[cedar patio]

but even if it was just 5 he'd still be going on at 13

[boreal oyster]

oh
i thought it was a solid 2 tours

[cedar patio]

no he started his second byt didnt finish bc of the calamity

[boreal oyster]

that makes more sense
probably misremembered since i did the kid's dream a while ago

[cedar patio]

i'd put him at 23. 7 yrs on the wall, joined when he was 16

[boreal oyster]

as for zulf and zia, i kinda agree with schpoonman here
zia probably mid 20s, zulf early 30s

[boreal oyster]

that's reasonable
i've never been able to establish a good headcanon age for the kid

[cedar patio]

i'd say zia is 18-20 and zulf is 27 or 28

and then rucks i'd put at at least 65

[boreal oyster]

rucks seems to me like late 60s - early 70s
too old to do any of the heavy lifting but young enough to still be physically able

[hollow pilot]

I think he's got a cane?

Either an old war injury or advanced age.

[boreal oyster]

war injury maybe

[cedar patio]

yeah he's got a cane, i like the idea of a war injury better bc i like seeing disabled characters

[boreal oyster]

it's nice that the triggers he served with are one of the few things from the past he doesn't hold a profound apathy for
adds a lot of flavor to his character

[cedar patio]

yeah he's pretty secretive too so it's interesting to see that, like a lot of things he'll say nothing about, but this is such a point of pride that he'll share this

[spring bloom]

triggers=his fellow soldiers? it’s the camaraderie. i read somewhere that one can form a deep bond with the people they’re fighting alongside

[boreal oyster]

what are y'all's theories on why the kid is so small despite being an adult

[novel schooner]

thats how it be sometimes

like

really thats about it

people can be smol

[boreal oyster]

i mean

fair

[cedar patio]

i love what a shorty he is

so buff and strong but he's the size of a 6th grader

[boreal oyster]

dude be lifting the entire battering ram by himself

[cedar patio]

it's like 3x his size

[boreal oyster]

the kid: can function with copious amounts of alcohol and survive jawson bog without going insane
also the kid: out cold with one puff of zulf's pipe

[cedar patio]

quite awhile ago someone mentioned it looked like something you would smoke opium out of (idr what they called it, maybe a skooma bubbler) which would explain why kid conks out so fast

[boreal oyster]

huh

[boreal oyster]

zulf didn't really do anything unjustifiably bad imo

[wanton dune]

I have a lot of trouble using the Calamity Cannon
Any tips for Calamity Cannon, and also fighting the Ura?

[boreal oyster]

for fighting the ura, use dodges liberally and keep moving so it's harder for them to hit you
i don't have any tips for calamity cannon unfortunately
not one of my main weapons

[wanton dune]

Thanks for the tip about the Ura 🙂

[boreal oyster]

np

where are you in the game rn

[wanton dune]

Zulf's reflection

i think the next mission is to get the final shard from Zulf

[boreal oyster]

ah
good luck

[cedar patio]

hey so bastion is turning 10 o july 20th and i was wondering if people would be interested in doing a fan thing for it

we still have quite a while but im excited already

[boreal oyster]

what sort of fan thing
i'm interested

[tidal echo]

:O

Me too

[cedar patio]

so for the 5th anniversary we did a bastion week

https://fyeahsupergiant.tumblr.com/tagged/bastion-week

people did fan content but it included things like cosplay and a blog theme, which was very cool

so i think i'd like to do something like that again

7 days, a prompt for each day. prompts could be done out of order or ignored, or a new one could be made up individually

i think bc it's 10 yrs it'd also be very cool to have people do like reflections on bastion, especially if they've loved it for a long time

so it could be meta content too

[boreal oyster]

hmm
i cannot draw at all, i could try my hand at writing though

[cedar patio]

it'd be good to try! anything you can bring is great

[boreal oyster]

the last time i played bastion before the time i got into it very recently was a long time ago, when i was a little kid

i got it on steam to replay it for the nostalgia

rediscovered how good it was

[cedar patio]

once i'm out of class i'm definitely playing bastion again

[tidal echo]

Ooo I have no talent outside programming but I would definitly consume the media people produce

[cedar patio]

it was a really fun thing today and i hope i can round up enough people to do it again

the fandom............. is quiet

[boreal oyster]

i mean it makes sense
10 year old game and all

[lime kite]

oh that's cool! I might do something for it if I'm not a burned out piece of mess. I remember the last bastion drawing I did sapped all of my energy but we'll see

[cedar patio]

hell yeah! im hoping you can :3

and now this means i have to write rip

[lime kite]

are those the prompts for this year or are they for the previous year(s)?

[cedar patio]

they were for the 5th anniversary

but also if you like em you can use em

[thick pike]

I can't write, but I could learn some Bastion songs on my kalimba 🤷‍♀️

[faint saffron]

Hey, maybe we can do some sort of music fan medley? I play acoustic guitar, we could put something together 😉

[open python]

I can try my hand at vocals if I have time

[thick pike]

I'm not sure how great the audio quality with be over the internet

[thick pike]

But boy am I excited. That sounds awesome!!!

[cedar patio]

that'd be like hands down the coolest thing possible for this

[daring fossil]

Is there any way to change the order of the buildings in the Bastion? Should I care about that, or just build whatever I feel like it's better for me at that point?

[spring bloom]

once they're built, you can't change them, i believe

just go with your gut

[daring fossil]

Can't spell guilt without gut
Alright, I'll try to be easygoing

Also, Hades' (game) thing that spawns skulls looks like a carbon copy of the cotton candy machine that spawns these . And the skulls attack is nearly the same

I expected similarities, but even then this surprised me

[boreal oyster]

bastion is a proto-hades in many ways

mechanically, of course

in terms of tone, themes, and story they're basically nothing alike

[daring fossil]

I don't think I'd be able to notice that both are from SGG on my own

[spring bloom]

there is a certain something the games all have in common that i can't quite put my finger on. case in point: when i launched hades for the first time and heard the opening theme, i started grinning from ear to ear. different ost, but still uniquely darren korb

[boreal oyster]

i'm probably biased towards bastion lol but i like rucks' narration more than zag's voice lines

[daring fossil]

Seems like your gut is more trustworthy than mine. While I like Bastion's and Pyre's and Hades' music, I couldn't tell they're all from Darren

They all are self-consistent, but I can't find that connection yet. Maybe because I'm missing

[daring fossil]

Is it fair to compare Logan's voice with someone else's? Agree with you though. Also the writing is better

Good news is the security system still works. Bad news is it's aiming for the Kid.

[boreal oyster]

yeah the narration is consistently magnificent

especially in jawson bog

[spring bloom]

to be fair, rucks is telling a story. the closest we get to that in hades is the mysterious narrator, who largely disappears past the early game

zag isn't really narrating, we just hear his voice most often

[boreal oyster]

that's true

the comparison isn't really fair

still

[spring bloom]

oh i very much agree with you. jawson bog left me confused and bewildered (and a bit scared as well!) it's great narrating, and it's a big part of what kept me going forward in the game

[daring fossil]

writes down Jawson Bog
Is this the place with the ||burrowing snake and the tall grass||?
(Please say Y/N)

[boreal oyster]

N

wait have you not finished the game

[daring fossil]

Played 5 hours, then didn't play for 3 years
So I'm restarting

[boreal oyster]

oh

[daring fossil]

Also, I had about two baby (?) enemies as pets in the Bastion. Does that happen upon meeting hidden criteria or is it a "beat this level" or "clear X areas" kind of thing?

[boreal oyster]

nah you get those by getting mementos and talking to people about them

[spring bloom]

yep, it's a matter of finding the mementos, which are missable! ||i think you can have four pets/friends||

[daring fossil]

Whew. I'll be thorough. It's extra-fun in this game

Thanks, you two

[spring bloom]

||no problem, kid||

[cedar patio]

iirc you can also buy mememntos later

[boreal oyster]

at the lost and found?

[cedar patio]

yeah

[boreal oyster]

hi

[spring bloom]

it's a quiet channel

the Kid is the Kid. just your average, everyday fellow trying to survive

that could be true of any other surviving Caelondian, especially the ones posted to the Rippling Walls. i think the Kid was meant to represent the average Caelondian soldier, who doesn't know why there's a Calamity and the politics behind it

the calamity was ||a sabotaged attempt by the Caelondian government (military?) to wipe out the Ura population||

[tranquil kindle]

no average soldier takes a double shift at the walls

[boreal oyster]

rucks voice Kid was built different.

[cedar patio]

i was on the wiki and it said caelondia is only 100 yrs old and i totally forgot that, but wow that is a very young city

[novel schooner]

||and a very audacious city to try to commit genocide||

[boreal oyster]

colonists gonna colonize

[novel schooner]

america when they find oil or britain when they find any "new" land

[lime kite]

||imagine being only 100 years old and deciding to literally just blow up the world||

[thick pike]

Some people get bored at that age

[novel schooner]

yea caelondia does a little bit of trolling

what else are you supposed to do when you hit 100

[thick pike]

Yeah does Caelondia have an entertainment industry because if not it must suck to be 100 with nothing to do

[lime kite]

Could have made some theatres and some movies but nah instead they made WMDs

[cedar patio]

there's like no basis for this theory but what do people think of the theory of Kid being part ura? based on that ura child's drawing with a character with white hair

[boreal oyster]

his skin is too bronze to be an ura imo

[spring bloom]

but if he was part ura, he would likely have traits from both races. it’s plausible

[cedar patio]

yeah there can be mixing in skin pigmentation

[boreal oyster]

idk i just think if the kid was intended to be part ura it would be a plot point not an easily missable and explainable detail

[cedar patio]

i mean yeah the theory has no basis, like i said. but it's interesting to me

[boreal oyster]

that's valid

[cedar patio]

i kinda like it bc i think it makes his whole white hair part more interesting. like children would absolutely ridicule another child for having white hair but there's something with a little more depth to it

[boreal oyster]

not telling yall what yall can't find interesting

[zenith smelt]

the ura all have black hair though, don't they?

[cedar patio]

from what we've seen

iirc the ura child picture the kid finds has a person with green hair and another person with white hair

[wise loom]

Some people think it might be Percy, because the track that plays when you grab the first core and head to the Bastion is called Percy's Escape.

[hybrid coral]

isn’t there a deceased character called percy that you see in one of the early levels

[cedar patio]

yeah there

there's percy the snitch

but before hades sgg had a tendency for unnamed protags. bastion, then transistor, then pyre

[hollow pilot]

I thought Red was her name.

[solar tartan]

Yeah but the sword

[hollow pilot]

Ah.

[cedar patio]

no red is a nickname

oh well it seems like that's not like canon

but i feel like it's likely; red doesn't fit that well with the naming scheme

but this is getting into wrong channel

ok i'm too tired for this now but i have Thoughts on this name thing i will come back to later

[west bluff]

damn it. Bastion was so good

you won't expect it to be a debut game.

[cedar patio]

hullo

[faint saffron]

Hi everyone, with Eizouken and Swan we started working on a music fan tribute for Bastion anniversary (which is on 20th of July). If you'd like to join with your musical / vocal talents, just dm me 🙂

[cedar patio]

hell yeah!!!!

[crystal jolt]

me: man this fight is hard
game: you have a block button
me: so difficult
game: use your block...
me: why cant i do it
game: block..
me: truly a mystery

[west bluff]

when a hades player tries bastion.

[crystal jolt]

why do you gotta call me out like that after I called myself out thats like finding someone who shot themselves in the leg and shooting the other one-

😂

[west bluff]

i mean we are masochists after all using god trials and pacts of punishments just for some goodies.

[crystal jolt]

me, running at 30+ heat with excalibur

[west bluff]

The first thing I did after understanding the heat/pact of punishment mechanic is attempt a full heat run

[crystal jolt]

how fast did you die

[west bluff]

i got up to asphodel

on the 3rd run elysium

and then i got stuck on the tartarus

[crystal jolt]

i got to elysium on 32

and then just Died

[west bluff]

Asterius put the nail on the coffin for me.

[crystal jolt]

heat asterius hirts

but this is a bastion chat

the only bull here is uh

i forgot his name damn

phyn?

[hollow pilot]

Pyth.

[west bluff]

mecha bull god?

[crystal jolt]

almost had it

[crystal jolt]

i heard that in logan's voice help

[hollow pilot]

No, that's a good thing.

[crystal jolt]

i accept logan as my new internal monologue

[cedar patio]

logan does an absolute killer job on all his voices but i think rucks is my favorite

an older man without being some cartoon old person voice, the rumble, it's like honey over gravel

[crystal jolt]

modern rucks with an asmr channel

i'd die for logan to do more dramatic readings

[crystal birch]

does anyone have the upgrades for all of the items

[cedar patio]

i imagine the wiki would

[crystal birch]

give me the wiki

[cedar patio]

https://bastion.fandom.com/wiki/Bastion_Wiki

[cedar patio]

listened to the soundtrack after not listening to it for a quite awhile and damn it really holds up

especially terminal march, that's just a bop

[daring fossil]

There's a what? I have the OST but it's just 22 songs.
Did I miss something?

[cedar patio]

oh that was just weird phone stuff

[daring fossil]

Aw. Oh well, 22 songs will do.
I like Mine, Windbag, Mine and Bynn the Breaker. Can loop those for hours

Are you of the loopy type or the whole-listen type?

[cedar patio]

oh both are good, especially the intro to bynn the breaker. i'm more of whole-listen personally

[spring bloom]

never loop. i don't want to ruin the songs i love by repeating them forever

[cedar patio]

gotta get that whole mood

yeah i agree! gotta keep it fresh

[spring bloom]

my itunes library is all video game themes. when i want to get some work done, i put them all on shuffle
songs like Terminal March are super motivating when they hit you out of nowhere

[cedar patio]

it really does have the right best for that. it's a good random song

bastion songs are great random songs, except for mother im here, which will destroy you

[spring bloom]

pale watchers always hits me hard, there's just something about it and the feelings it evokes

Build That Wall is a spot of calm every time

[daring fossil]

Resuscitate the what

The two I mentioned never overdo their themes, unlike other songs. Rather rare

[cedar patio]

im sorry more phone stuff

im so tired my autoswype is being weird and im not checking

[daring fossil]

A Proper Story is very energetic, but too short

[spring bloom]

seems like it's meant to be an introduction to the rest of the ost more than anything else

[cedar patio]

yeah, and it's a really good intro

gives you a feel of what's gonna come

[daring fossil]

I want a longer version

[hollow pilot]

Gonna start my Supergiant Power Hour with In Case Of Trouble.

[cedar patio]

good choice

[crystal birch]

is it me or i can't equip the two skill that is calamity rockets and bomb barrage

[crystal birch]

i need an reasoning

[open python]

What happens when you try?

[crystal birch]

it just doesn't equip it

wanted to test them

[open python]

Could you send a screenshot? You can upload an image to a site like imgur (or another discord server) and link here

[crystal birch]

getting a gif

https://gyazo.com/ac387fc68846c56ac936ed2958f44c64

[open python]

And you're able to select any other skill? If you haven't already, I'd close and reopen the game, see if that fixes it

[crystal birch]

i can select other skills but not those two

i found something more cursed

[delicate plank]

Any love for Spike In A Rail among the soundtrack lovers? 😁

[spring bloom]

oh definitely, spike in a rail is a bop

100% A Jam

[loud ridge]

OH MY GOD

After I beat the game I listened to it for at least a week straight

I am now legally obligated to play it again what have you done.

Spike In a Rail is like if Cuphead had nicer music or something lol

[cedar patio]

spike in a rail is super good

i started a replay early and it's like wow im noticing so much more

so def recommend

[cedar patio]

i wrote some meta abt the kid and work/the evac-ending nap scene and most of it has already been said but here's a part that maybe people will find interesting

so the nap part is so important because [the kid] is finally giving himself a moment to take care of himself, to do something for pleasure, and take a break from that tireless, tireless work he's been subjected to for so many years. he's also not wearing his armor, which shows he's ready to rest and not be on the alert. and it's also really important that rucks is putting a blanket over the kid, because the kid went from being completely alone in his life to having people that care about him and love him. this is a scene where rucks is helping take care of the kid while the kid takes care of himself, things that have never happened. so the boy finally gets the break he deserves, and even though he's sleeping, he looks pretty happy.

[spring bloom]

he sleeps earlier on in the game as well, but the epilogue is the first time he sleeps without bad dreams or stress for the next day

[cedar patio]

yeah i mean there is jawson bog/who knows where but those i didn't count bc they weren't like a moment, of care, they were like "well i have to"

[cedar patio]

never forget the kid's terrible little ponytail

[daring fossil]

The real calamity right there

[cedar patio]

it's so dinky

it's so random im sad jen zee ignored it

imagine all the official art Kid has that pointless ponytail

[daring fossil]

I'm going to laugh a lot if the next MC has one

Even better, the reader could have had a ponytail all this time

Maybe Red wears one every second she's off-camera

[solar tartan]

We only see most of the pyre cast either from the front or with mask on... so they all have the same ponytail

[daring fossil]

Why yes, that's the Scribes' will

On the other hand, the Kid must surely deserve to keep it after two shifts on the walls.
Maybe that's why he did the double shift

[spring bloom]

he’s not in a position to get regular haircuts. if he already needed one when the calamity struck, he wouldn’t be able to get one. his hair’s still too short to chop off without proper tools, and the world is not the same anyway so haircuts no longer matter

so it makes sense, in a way, that he’d simply start tying it back until it got long enough to chop off

[cedar patio]

right i had a terrible ponytail similar to that one when my hair was first growing out, as it was too long to keep loose but too short for something that wasnt. ugly

so i love kid's ugly ponytail

[daring fossil]

Kid could have used a headband, Zia said. "Won't come loose as a dinky ponytail would.", she said as she offered him a piece of cloth.
Can't have a calamity happen in the Bastion, right here in our hearth.

[cedar patio]

adsbhjdscbjvdf

riiiiip

[spring bloom]

kid in a headband art, someone with skills, make it happen

[cedar patio]

kid shoulda used the crystal barette

"keeps hair firmly in check" after all

[daring fossil]

Tbf I'm picturing Hedwyn with white hair

Wouldn't be too far from that

[cedar patio]

hedwyn and kid outfit swap

[delicate plank]

They'd both work it

[cedar patio]

honestly they really would

[crystal jolt]

plant it

[wanton dune]

So I'm doing bastion idol challenges, I did 10 idols kid and zia, working on Zulf (did 5 but not 10 yet), I have a question about hammer: how do I not touch the enemies while using it? I used Pike for the other two reflections but I find hammer better against the Ura, but when I use the hammer I take damage from touching the enemy

I take so much damage from the Ura at the very beginning

I have trouble dealing with those plant things that spawn Stinkeyes efficiently too

Yeah, I don't know how to deal with the plant things once I run out of secret tonics

[wanton dune]

I cleared zulf 10 idols but I'll still need to do stranger's reflection

[zenith smelt]

use the bow or carbine

to hit them from a distance

[robust geyser]

Hi guys, I need help! I don't know which decision to make: Restoration vs Evacuation. I'd rather not get story spoilers, but more about gameplay consequences please! I don't want the game to end yet and I still haven't 100% the Bastion before I started the end game and would like to still do that. I'm worried one or both of these options will wipe my progress.. (I tried to select back when it told me there's no turning back but for some reason it still launched me into the endgame 😅)

[spring bloom]

too late to go back now whatever you choose, but you can always do another playthrough with new game plus

[robust geyser]

Do I get to keep any progression with new game +?

Man, the music is just ❤

[cyan dune]

the entire point of ng+ in most games is to keep progression

[cedar patio]

you do get to keep things like weapons and such in ng+

[red pawn]

Probably only cash and upgrades

[leaden slate]

bastion

[cedar patio]

iirc you get shards, level, weapons, possibly weapon upgrades, and spirits

it's been a minute since ive done ng+ so i could be wrong

[peak whale]

where’s a <@&456908176877551658> when we need one

[lyric swift]

What do you need?

[twilit urchin]

Just took care of it

[lyric swift]

Thanks Sparrow!

[peak whale]

was a csgo scammer

[distant escarp]

gross

[tidal echo]

agreed, scammers bad

[distant escarp]

there was a scammer from a different sever who recently would dm people how they accidently reported them on discord or something

[peak whale]

thats

unfunny

[distant escarp]

yeah
they were immediately yeeted
and multiple of people told them to f off

[tidal echo]

wait it moved from steam reports to discord, oof

[cedar patio]

the dead welcome him with open arms is such a raw line and then on the Zulf level it's absolutely killer

[slender dagger]

<@&456908176877551658>

[glass gate]

👍

[hollow pilot]

<@&456908176877551658>

[delicate tendon]

Cheers

[orchid heart]

Really? Again?
<@&456908176877551658> :c

[barren fulcrum]

nah, I'm good

[violet valve]

Cheers

[twilit urchin]

weird that it’s always the bastion channel they hit

didn’t realise scammers were such longtime fans....

[delicate tendon]

Spam bots of good taste?

[shrewd forum]

Bastion is the original home of

[open python]

<@&456908176877551658> blehg

[harsh nexus]

oh boy

[twilit urchin]

always bastion

[open python]

Also, I think some of these are hacked accounts

[lyric swift]

3rd time today

[open python]

Not bots

I got one in a DM from someone I know is not a bot, from this server

I can DM one of you for ref if you want

[lyric swift]

Yup DMing any of us is good

[strange token]

why is it always this channel specifically

[novel schooner]

||because they chose restoration and are in a neverending loop||

[cedar patio]

i love the hanging gardens just bc at the end rucks is going over how many people died and it should have been Zulf instead essentially... tell us how you really feel

i do love when rucks goes out of his way to be like "hey zulf sucks" it's so funny

[lime kite]

Wait the bastion anniversary is on July 20m

?

[cedar patio]

yep

[lime kite]

I thought it was June 20 and accidentally hurriedly made art for it 😔

[pale heron]

Oh I thought that it was the 17 of march

Also amazing game

[marsh sonnet]

Just completed Bastion today. It did take two play sessions, but overall was a decent game. I found the gameplay mechanics simple, but enjoyable. I do see it similar to Hades in gameplay, but Hades is more polished for obvious reasons. I would say it's my third favorite Supergiant game. At the end credits I did read Supergiant's Analyst, Business Developer, Adam Schiender, as Adam Sandler. I did make a photo of this for some reason but can't post it yet. I'll probably play it again because it wasn't a long game.

[novel schooner]

lol <@&456908176877551658>

it has struck once again

i just find it funny that its always bastion chat

[twilit urchin]

so many people leaving csgo lately and giving away all their stuff, huh

[novel schooner]

ikr wonder why

[shrewd forum]

They decided to move on to Bastion, that's why

[pale heron]

How I noticed that you has a channel dedicated to Hades translation I remember something that I wanted to mention, in the credits during the part about to the WB people who worked on Bastion is mention someone related to the sales of the game in Mexico, the fact is that in case of the game is being played on Spanish it says "Méjico" instead of "México"

Spoiler warning ⚠️
But still be related to Spanish translation of the game

||Also IDK if was a bug or someone used from base other language instead of English for make the Spanish translation but during one of the last parts of the game (I think that was when Zulf destroy the Bastion) the subtitles suddenly changed to other language that I can't identify (but I think it was Italian or French, I repeat I'm not sure about that)||

[open python]

Heyo! While the devs may see your message here, I'd suggest also reaching out to them through their contact page: https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

[pale heron]

I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't update the game just for two bad translation but anyways I will leave my message
||And I'm sure because they even didn't patched it for make it run correctly on windows 10||

[south breach]

|| having a hard time with Zulten's hollow || ugh

|| those dang birbs||

[open python]

Wait, || what was the issue with Win10? ||

[pale heron]

The game don't boot or poor performance

But only on Win10

That can be easily fixed putting a command in the parameters in the game launcher options but still being a bit annoying

Oh and I only had the poor performance issue and even after of add the commandline to the launcher parameters my PC is working almost 100% (oh and if you ask I have a i5 3470 (integrated graphics) 8gbs ram)

[open python]

It worked for me on Win10...

So I'm not totally sure what to tell you xD

[cunning coyote]

The game is extremely cheap rn cause of the steam sale

Will be getting it

80% off

[hollow pilot]

See where it all began.

[wet magnet]

It was on sale on switch too

[proven skiff]

Just bought it, the last game missing to my SGG collection

[cunning coyote]

My game pad isn't working on bastion anymore

It worked yesterday and I can still play games with my controller on other games

[cunning coyote]

ive tried a ps4 and a ps5 controller

[cunning coyote]

nvm just changed some stuff in the settings and it works now

[cunning coyote]

I just finished bastion in 4.5hrs, didn't expect it to be this short ngl

[proven skiff]

oh?

I seem to have the exact same issue, how did you fix it?

@cunning coyote I hope you don't mind the ping, but in case you never come back, heh you never know

Oh I got it. If someone has the same problem, just go in the controls settings and select the controller. You don't have to touch anything, it will make it the "priority" way to play the game

[cunning coyote]

Oh just go to settings and press the controller option

[cunning coyote]

Nah I always check this server lol

[proven skiff]

Yeah I figured it out, thanks though!

[cunning coyote]

Np, have fun!

[limber garden]

Just got bastion, havent heard anything about it, accept of course its made by an amazing game studio, cant wait to jump in

[cedar patio]

hope you enjoy!

[lucid pagoda]

Hello. I bought Bastion a while back and didn't reopen it til now, so I've missed the "free upgrade" period. Does that mean my previous purchase is now completely void and I just need to buy the game again? 😦

[meager gazelle]

What do you mean "free upgrade"?

[solar tartan]

At some point, WBs license to publish bastion expired, which means that SGG could take 100% of the money from sales that took place after that period

To do that, they had to make a new apple app with the same game, because that's how the apple system works I guese

which means people who bought the game needed to get the new app within a certain time period in order to keep having access to bastion

David might be able to contact support and get help that way

[open python]

^^ I'd use the contact page on their website, yeah

[peak quartz]

Hey so I'm a beginner at this game and I'm doing bullhead court right now. For every other enemy type I just deflect and roll to damage them but I can't seem to do that for squirts? How am I supposed to kill them with just the sheild?

Nevermind I figured out I'm supposed to counter them lmao

[proven skiff]

I just did that yesterday, was a bit hard. You have to counter them in right frame to deal damage

well congrats lol

same for the other enemies though, the counter is like 30 ish damage

[peak quartz]

Yeah I didn't even realize it was thing lol. Thanks anyway.

[proven skiff]

Did you do it in 3 hits or less?

The last mob was annoying, still taking damage on a perfect counter sometimes

[peak quartz]

Nope. Not yet anyway I'm still trying. Yes that last guy is the hardest part

[proven skiff]

I found it easier to bait it in a clear line and roll right after the counter

because it leaves some mud or whatever and it can stack hits really fast

[peak quartz]

Whoa I just realized I can lead that guy to fall off the platform instead of killing it? Dope.

Wait that only happened that one time maybe it was a bug lmao.

[proven skiff]

Lmao I did not know

I'll try to replicate

[peak quartz]

It happened more times so it's not a bug but I'm not sure how it's happening or how to replicate it.

[wise loom]

Yeah, you can do that. It's how I would do it back when I played this game way too many times. Easiest way is to lead it off the long straight bit in the bottom right.

Pretty sure it was designed with that in mind, there is a voiceline from rucks that implies that making the enemy throw itself off is the best way.

[proven skiff]

Finished first playthrough within 8 hours

idols can make the game a nightmare lol

[peak quartz]

Interesting. I'll see if I can do it later. thanks for the tip.

[solar tartan]

@violet valve

[violet valve]

thanks for that

[shrewd depot]

reaching build that wall is always great

[shrewd depot]

oh god i suck at the hammer test

[tall bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-suicide-squad-king-shark-hand-shark-raising-hand-gif-20920812

[hollow pilot]

@shrewd forum How's that Bastion playthrough coming along?

[shrewd forum]

I WILL HOLD YOU TIGHT AND SQUEEZE YOU

I mean, it's going great

I actually have it on my desktop there, taunting me...

[hollow pilot]

Waiting on you.

[shrewd forum]

OK, do you want to watch me play it or do you want me to play it and obsess over it after I end it?

[hollow pilot]

The latter.

[shrewd forum]

Peach will remember that.

[hollow pilot]

I honestly need to get playthroughs of Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre in.

I'll see what I can do this week.

[shrewd forum]

I swear, on my honor as a mod, that I will play it tomorrow after I wake up. I will even ping you!

And if I don't... @open python can punish me somehow, I don't know.

Before I play though, anything you have to say to me? Anything to look out for?

[hollow pilot]

Gods ain't gonna help you.

[shrewd forum]

Fair.

[meager gazelle]

That’s such a perfect response tho jaksjskmsskjsskks

“Anything I should know beforehand?”
“I got 2 things. 1, the gods ain’t gonna catch you when you fall. 2, eeehhh, forget about 2.”

[shrewd forum]

OK NOW I GET THE JOKE

This game in a word: PLOP!

[hollow pilot]

How far in are you?

[shrewd forum]

I just got my 3rd core

Also, one does not simply avoid somersaulting 👌
(The narrator even mentions it)

[open python]

[shrewd depot]

@outer raft uh, i think this should be deleted? (sorry for the ping)

[outer raft]

yup, thank you

[south breach]

You're gonna do great.

[blissful dome]

Does anybody know when they are planning to restock the Bastion OST Vinyl in their store? I've been trying to get my hands on it for the retail price for a week now

[cedar patio]

what if..... bastion weapon enamel pins

[open python]

pls

[cedar patio]

i would suplex a baby for more sgg enamels and the weapons works look SO cool

[daring fossil]

Possible solution: tape something stinky to your backpack 🧄

Also something heavy

[novel schooner]

ahh yes lemme tape something sharp

and something burnt

[daring fossil]

Wait, there's no "Something Stinky". There's Stringy, Nasty, Greasy, and Foul (and others).
And out of all of those, I remembered Stinky

[novel schooner]

and maybe ill be able to tape smth wrong to it too

like where do i find something wrong lol

[open python]

Reddit is usually a good place to start

[mint portal]

Have you been on the internet before? lol

[stoic viper]

bastion was the first video game i ever played (not counting the edutainment games i played as a child)!

[dire vine]

Bastion was one of the first games I've ever played, and I'm thankful for that. The small cast and the fragility of the characters really influenced me, as did the music

[placid lintel]

I’m actually playing through bastion at the moment (bought all the games that I didn’t have already in the summer sale) and I love it so far!

[distant stratus]

I played bastion on october last year and it was honestly so cool!

The look, the music and the feeling of it were super rad. I actually remember seeing an article of it on a magazine ten years ago! And I think that was my first exposure to Jen Zee's art too. The art was really tiny, but I loved seeing how serious and somber the kid looked. I just liked staring at it bahaha.

About seven years later, I think I rediscovered the art after 7ish years when the name of the game popped up in my head. Studying the art and listening to the music while drawing was amazing. I'm glad I got to play it last year!

[tidal echo]

10- year aniversary wow!

Bastion was one of the first games i ever played and certainly the first SGG game. Great memories. Thank you SGG ❤️

[dire vine]

The art is so good. My favorite piece is Zia looking out from the Bastion

[distant stratus]

Yeah! And the "cold war kid" art they have on their store is just HM HM quite nice

[remote finch]

First time I played Bastion was years ago, can’t exactly remember when, but it was only Android, back when I was still using Android phones

I remembered grinding through the challenge sections of the game to have maxed out everything in the game

Sad, because all that are still stuck on my Google account on Android, non-transferable to iOS

[cedar patio]

ive told this story before but i got into bastion when i was a severe insomniac and lived in this loft without internet access and that was typically 90 degrees until about 3 or 4 in the morning, when a cool breeze would roll in from the screen door. so bastion kept me company during this time, and i just immediately fell in love with everything about the game. it's been 8 yrs now and this beautiful game still fills me with joy. ive made amazing friends from it and really honed my writing ability and i am just so grateful that this game exists.

[halcyon crest]

My lord it's been ten years already. My gateway drug into all things supergiant. I'm so grateful that my 12 year old self decided to give this game a chance

[pale heron]

I played Bastion like a month ago and I really enjoyed it and is one of best games I played, the art style is so unique and I love that style art that remembers me to ends of 2000s, despite of not being the best work of Darren, the soundtrack is really good and it fit perfectly with art style of the game, and it gameplay it just wonderful

I would like play it again when I finally dominate or improve my skills of compression of spoken English because that I think I missed big part of the essence of the game just for that, but that don't mean that I didn't enjoyed the game (and also understand a bit of it, my main problem was when Rucks was talking during combat)

[mental helm]

My friend adviced me to play Bastion some time after release and since then this game (and you, guys, in general) holds a special place in our hearts (he still have the soundtrack from Bastion as a ringtone and I always keep your soundtrack as downloaded as a crucial for the library)
Thank you for this incredible experience, you've made and keep making awesome games, keep going! ❤️

[timber owl]

Mmmm national holiday today huh

I think I played bastion in like, 2013, got the game and immediately played through it all in one sitting. I was up until like 4am

I remember getting to all the wilderness stuff and doing the first Who Knows Where and realizing I was playing something special

[tidal echo]

Currently crying over bastion

I remebe replaying it back when I was 6 or 7

It's the reason that I am who I am

It sparked the want to create games inside me that has burned ever since

SGG literally changed my life and I could not be happier

It's been an amazing 10 years and I hope that bastion will live on forever inside my memories, not to be forgotten, and be my own little bastion

[edgy oxide]

https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1417488810028408832

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

"Proper story's supposed to start at the beginning. Ain't so simple with this one." BASTION, our first game, launched on this day 10 years ago!🌱

Here's the Kid & friends in a new image by @0jenzee0. Your support of this game meant the world to us, and allowed us to keep going.

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[turbid bison]

happy birthday bastion!

i still think about the jawson's bog level :) bastion is one of my favorite games

[spring bloom]

love reading the stories about you all's discovery of bastion! for my part, i dug it out of my library out of boredom on day, and got fully blown away by the music, story, and atmosphere. it's the first game i can remember that actually made me cry, and it's the first game where i bought the soundtrack as well to listen to whenever. and it still holds up upon replaying! happy 10 years

[mint portal]

Happy birthday Bastion. This soundtrack continues to be my jam

[smoky locust]

Let’s go, bastion

[tame whale]

Oh lord, have the mighty fallen

I feel bad, Bastion 10th anniversary and the last message was hours ago

[cedar patio]

?

[open python]

there was quite a bit going on, especially on tumblr

[cedar patio]

yeah there was bastion week on tumblr as well as 2 or 3 thousand retweets on twitter

[gleaming heath]

hey guys is bastion the only SG game besides hades on the switch? also is it worth getting, never played it but i do love hades

[south knoll]

pyre is the only supergiant game that isnt on switch, so bastion, transistor and hades are all on the switch

[novel schooner]

^^i need to get transistor on my switch lol. and id say its def worth. the combat is the most similar to hades(soundtrack also has a similar vibe just not as hard and metal) and the story is still ;-;

[gleaming heath]

between pyre and bastion which would you say is better to play firstly?

[novel schooner]

depends on if you like reading a lot

pyre is a lot of reading

[gleaming heath]

i do!

i enjoy anything thats very storyline heavy

[novel schooner]

ooo ok then ummmm personally id say pyre since i just love the experience as a whole, the gameplay loop is a tad bland after a certain point but the story is stellar

bastion's story is much more hidden and a bit more linear ngl so if you want a story to sink your teeth into and smth to spend a long time just reading id say pyre ;3

[gleaming heath]

awesome, ty!

[novel schooner]

np :3

[gleaming heath]

i actually decided to go ahead and try out bastion since its the first SG game (plus i got confused and misread earlier thinking pyre was on the switch), overall been great!

[tidal echo]

nice!

[leaden slate]

someone buy me bastion

[cedar patio]

it goes on sale pretty regularly for like $2

[tidal echo]

Yeh

[delicate plank]

Ahh, Bastion. I worked my way through it the year I got married, so it's fondly associated with those memories

Newlywed husband patiently listening to my agonies about the final choice 💕

[gleaming heath]

the narrators voice in this game is absolutely amazing, reminds me of spike spiegel for some reason

[tidal echo]

Its Logan Cunningham, who also voiced the Sword in Transistor, the Voice in Pyre, and Hades in Hades

He is an awesome voice actor

[gleaming heath]

wow his hades and narrator voice are so distinct from each other but still so good

[tidal echo]

he is really talented and it was 7-8 years between each game

[gleaming heath]

cant wait to hear him in transistor, hoping to play it after this

[tidal echo]

he is so good in it, hard to choose if pyre or transistor is his best voice acting

[thick pike]

Bastion's ending made me feel things in my soul that only the greats, like Zelda have. I was so moved that it allowed, almost encouraged me to || spare Zulf. || It didn't have to end in tragedy and it wasn't downplayed as the "soft choice" wow that meant so much to me 🥺

[heavy forge]

This game is short, right? I have a lot of games on my backlog and I figure both Bastion & Transistor would be the easiest to knock out

[open python]

I believe I finished the main story and most of the side quests in about 8 hours?

[heavy forge]

I've played a little bit of both games so it might take less time

(I have Bastion/Transistor/Hades on Switch and Pyre on PS4)

[proven skiff]

8 hours on my end too

[cedar patio]

hey quick question: so for the mortar, does the game say what branch of the military used it? i know it's like "the navy" or smth but is it more specific

[mint portal]

At some point it mentions the mortar was used by the Caelondian armada, but I believe that’s the closest we ever get to an actual military name.

[cedar patio]

thank u i appreciate that

[crystal jolt]

mortar my beloved

[cedar patio]

mortar Gudt

also found that according to whale ale they're called mariners

[austere fog]

A belated happy 10 year anniversary, Bastion

I'm happy that the team that worked on that game was able to stay together to work on other titles at Supergiant. The games have a certain signature style to them that I absolutely adore. But besides that I also think it speaks of a healthy work culture at the studio, which is something that's become a bit of a topic of discussion recently.

Bastion was the first title I played of Supergiant and I remember being blown away by the whole experience, how seamless every aspect of the game seemed to fit together and how beautiful all those aspects were.

[slender pollen]

Is there a bastion discord server?

[cedar patio]

there was one a very long time ago but it never got more than a few people

so now it's just here

[slender pollen]

Oh well where do the pics go when u take a pic in the ozo

[cedar patio]

the ozo?

[slender pollen]

The ozo the place on ur left when u log in

[slender pollen]

Or do you think u can give me it

Like the link to it @cedar patio

[tidal echo]

this should probably go in #self-promotion

[gleaming heath]

finished the game, what an ending

i do wish it was atleast 50+ hours longer 🙂

[south breach]

VICTORY.!!! New achievement in Bastion

Bout time. 21%! I got lots more to go but it's better than where I was. Still gotta beat a foe in an area but I'm tired now lol

I love this game so much:)

[cedar patio]

yeah would you mind putting that in #self-promotion?

[ancient cape]

i love this game

not paying attention to class for 2 years was definitely worth it

[solar tartan]

<@&456908176877551658>

[twilit urchin]

it's always this channel, isn't it....

[glass gate]

they just love bastion

[outer raft]

jesus i didn't even get a chance to see what it was lmao sparrow 2fast

[glass gate]

the channel didn't load for the first few seconds sparrow so fast

[twilit urchin]

a totally real and definitely not a scam at all discord nitro giveaway link

i even paused a moment to take a screenshot for log purposes

bird speed >:3c

[cedar patio]

their mod powers are unparalleled

[tidal echo]

its great (sarcasm) how theres a 25% chance to open the bastion channel and see either a) a scam, or b) a sea of purple names after sending the scammer so far into the shadow realm that not even rucks could tell you a plausible way of how they get back

[spring bloom]

gotta do a rucks style introduction on the mods, like the ones you get when you visit the memorial wall and claim a bounty (???? if that's the word)

[tidal echo]

yeah bounty is right, although it might be a memory

[spring bloom]

"The Moderators. Ain't no scammer stcking around when these fellows are on the watch"
something like that

[south knoll]

vigil?

[tidal echo]

hahahaha beautiful

[spring bloom]

Vigil! that's it, i think

[lusty pier]

Having a bit of trouble with the Trappers Vigil. Which baddies exactly does the game recognize as "hardy foes"?

[cyan dune]

<@&456908176877551658>

[glass gate]

when will bastion be left alone

[cyan dune]

When it runs out of delicious crystals

[strange token]

it's always the bastion channel huh

ty for pinging us

[hollow pilot]

guess that's their favorite game

[cedar patio]

sullying our good channel 😔

[shrewd forum]

Bastion channel become a meme at this point

[open python]

It's the Bastion holding the line

[dire vine]

Caught in the restoration loop

[lusty pier]

Nevm, got it by spray-n-prayin' on some plant baddies. 👌

[tidal echo]

@cedar patio

[open python]

sigh

Did they just hit three channels that time?

Babs is offline so @glass gate

[tidal echo]

this is the only channel i saw, sorryu for the ping while you were offline babs

[open python]

I saw empty messages in #pyre and #transistor so wasn't sure

[glass gate]

thanks

[heavy forge]

Quick question: You're getting near the end of the game when ||Zulf peaces out on you||, right?

[violet valve]

By when ||Zulf peaces out on you|| do you mean when ||zulf breaks the bastion a little?|| @heavy forge

If yes, you're about half way

[heavy forge]

Yeah

Okay, good to know.

Thanks.

[violet valve]

No worries

[heavy forge]

I assume I just have to upgrade all the facilities and it's done?

Well, I know there's stuff that comes after, but that's basically it?

[spring bloom]

you can use the upgrades as an indicator for how far you still have to go, yes

upgrading the bastion is your main goal for now

[lusty pier]

You won't be able to fully level up, complete all of the vigils and fully upgrade all your weapons until New Game+.

[heavy forge]

I figured that was the case.

[timber vigil]

so uh i just found/finished this game and just
wow
is there
more

[solar tartan]

there's the "who knows where" levels, where you interact with the pipe, pot, bedroll, and books, and those will give you challenges and lore

[timber vigil]

yeah those are cool

[solar tartan]

and ultimately the other games SGG have made carry on similar themes and mechanics

[timber vigil]

cool, I'll take a look

[open python]

@twilit urchin

[twilit urchin]

👉 🚪

that's me showing the spammer the door

if,,,,,, if it wasn't obvious,

[open python]

I got it Twas a good one

[proven skiff]

wait a minute, I don't have that shade smile variation

[open python]

:3

It's the good shade!

[proven skiff]

the red shade

[twilit urchin]

he may be the good shade but he is also off-topic for this channel

[heavy forge]

First run of Bastion completed!

And since I can't help myself I'm immediately going back to get the other ending.

[shrewd depot]

wich ending did you do first 👀

[novel schooner]

||technically there's 4 endings considering the combinations||

[shrewd depot]

||there is only 2 endings bc i cant bring myself to let zulf behind||

[heavy forge]

||Save Zulf + Restoration||

This was before I noticed I could go back to before the final level

Also, I'm partially doing the final level again because I didn't hear the whole song

[whole valley]

[open python]

sigh
@onyx elbow

[onyx elbow]

On it

[shrewd depot]

@south knoll

[proven skiff]

[south knoll]

lol thanks, bastion channel as usual huh

[unborn forum]

Testing spoiler mark before I type... ||Spoiler mark testing||

Aight cool.

So, I just finished the game. Naturally, chose to ||Save Zulf|| and chose the ||Evacuation Protocol||. If I had chosen ||Restoration||, what point in the game do I go back to?

Also, how hard are the ||Who Knows Where levels|| with all 10 Idols? I imagine the ||Kid's Dream|| and the ||Survivor's Dream|| being super difficult.

[novel schooner]

uhhhhhhh you dont necessarily "go back" to a point in the game... its just an ending. lore wise ||you go back to before the calamity but new game plus kinda hints towards the fact that it didnt work and its just looping"|| iirc that is

[novel schooner]

anything with all idols is difficult ._.

[heavy forge]

If you want to see the other ending, you can always boot up the save file and play the final level again.

That's what I did.

[shrewd depot]

You can do that?

I did ng+

[heavy forge]

Yes, you can.

Well. I'm not sure if going NG+ overwrites your main save file, but multiple file slots do exist.

[faint saffron]

<@&456908176877551658>

[violet valve]

ty

[faint saffron]

<@&456908176877551658> again ;)

[twilit urchin]

👍

[mossy talon]

why is it always bastion

[twilit urchin]

my theory is that it's the first channel, alphabetically, that regular users have access to, but i've no idea if that's really the reason

[cedar patio]

so something not bot related: what do you think the Kid had under his face bandage

[delicate plank]

another smaller face

[solar tartan]

<@&456908176877551658>

[delicate tendon]

always bastion

[tidal echo]

always has always will be

[solar tartan]

I saw em try to hit transistor and pyre, but the bot got those ones

[daring fossil]

Why would the bot not notice it in here?

[open python]

It only catches spamming

[tidal echo]

its given up?

[open python]

This one is first

That's probably why it doesn't hit the rest, the account gets muted

[twilit urchin]

The bot catches multiple messages in a short period and deletes the extras

[daring fossil]

Oh well. I wanted a more fantastical explanation