bastion

[proud karma]

isn't it star?

as in the star of micia

[halcyon crest]

Ah shades

[proud karma]

(you left it burning for me)

[halcyon crest]

MOTHER

[proud karma]

I'M HEEEEEEERRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE

[halcyon crest]

Darren we love you please sing more

[proud karma]

every hour is darren appreciation hour

[halcyon crest]

Yes

Preach 🙌

[timber owl]

The wilds themes singlehandedly made me wanna learn harmonica

[timber owl]

Speaking of the bastion score a lot of the songs were some of the first I tried to learn on guitar

Which is pretty tough cause Darren, the mad lad, keeps writing songs in Drop C

[faint saffron]

There was I time when I bought 0.13 gauge strings to my acoustics guitar to learn some of the Bastion songs :) sounded goood, the drop C tuning, so deep. Can do on drop D but it's not the same...

[cedar patio]

happy 9th birthday to bastion, the best game there ever was

[wet bone]

[rucks voice] kid stops and thinks back on it all a spell

[faint saffron]

🍰

[timber owl]

Those were the days...

[reef bobcat]

wait that was today???

[violet valve]

[lime kite]

Happy birthday Bastion I love you

[primal whale]

Happy Birthday!

[vagrant hedge]

Happy birthday ^^

[timber owl]

I’ve played this game so many times and for years I only just noticed that when zulf arrives he gets a tent

[cedar patio]

and then when he leaves zia steals it

[timber owl]

Well she gotta sleep somewhere

[cedar patio]

and poor kid just gets a bedroll

[vagrant hedge]

Well, this ain't your ol' papa's story

[timber owl]

Kid wakes up
Notices his watch reads “Suffering o’ clock”
Just another day

[lime kite]

Kid doesn't complain though

Says he's used to it by now

[timber owl]

Do you think like

Any of the gang ever asked if he was ok

Like once

Like do you think Rucks saw him heading for the terminals and maybe offered a glass of tea and a warm blanket first

[lime kite]

Probably

he does take naps, occasionally

though usually I would imagine it would go like

(Ruck's): I tell the kid to take a breather. No time, he says. Says he's gotta find the rest of the cores...

[timber owl]

It’s a bit more like

Kid just keeps walkin. Like he ain’t heard a thing

It’s too bad tho cause his naps tend to be uhh

Deep dreams of more fighting and learning traumatic backstories

[timber owl]

Also

You can throw the machete?!?!?!?!?

[ripe crystal]

Yeah, by holding down the attack button.

I don't use it though. Just gun them down with hitscan riffle.

[timber owl]

Yea that’s what I’ve been using

But that’s just

Way too cool

[south breach]

🧐

[timber owl]

#self-promotion big Bastion stream tonight! Part of a lil retrospective saga I've been cooking up! Come hang out y'all!

[timber owl]

Mmmm

Reaching the wilds for the first time while slinger’s song plays is just

Poetic cinema

[timber owl]

Also I was streaming bastion this week and when I got to the grand rail I started drawling

I'm not even southern it just kinda

happened

The vibes of that sequence combined with spike in the rail are just too powerful

[wet bone]

spike in a rail SLAPS

autoscroll levels get so bold because point lemaigne is an autoscroll level

(you are not point lemaigne though)

[timber owl]

No auto scroll level is better than point lemaigne

Actually point lemaigne is the only good autoscroll level

[wet bone]

exactly

name one other fun autoscroll level, i'll wait

[zenith smelt]

bit trip runner

[crisp sentinel]

Wasn’t rux a mancer?

[cedar patio]

rucks had a variety of jobs, but iirc right before the game he was a mancer

[ionic pelican]

how's the replayability of this game?

[proud karma]

you could get through all the content in about 2 playthroughs, but you'd have to know exactly what you're doing to do that

it's mostly small details though so unless you get really into the game it's not particularly replayable beyond ng+

[faint saffron]

It's around 16-20 hours with getting the all the Steam Achievements I would say. And doing NG+ and Time Score Attack. After that you'll be coming back to it once the nostalgia hits you.

[chilly quartz]

I replay it at least once a year

Usually save it for when I’m not feeling good

Very much a comfort game for me

I try and use different weapon sets too to change it up

[timber owl]

Yeah pretty much

[faint tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705354714979500082/745037876969996308/IMG_5017.jpeg

A friend made some art depicting my favorite weapon and the main character of the game.

[cedar patio]

oh HELL yeah! your friend did a great job. but this would fit better over in #fan-works

[timber owl]

Ooooo I love that

[cunning path]

@ionic pelican there are no boons per se, but you have a greater variety of special moves, you can have two weapons at once, and there are upgrade trees for the weapons

and you never lose upgrades, but you can switch them out for others

[carmine mauve]

it also takes precisely the opposite stance as to gods helping

[cunning path]

and yeah, you should almost never die

[errant saffron]

i died a few times stacking all the idols, but maybe i was just bad lol

[cunning path]

almost

stacking hardmode is obviously going to make it harder

[errant saffron]

that does seem obvious in retrospect lol

[twilit oar]

On the 19th of September the Bastion Speedrunning community will be doing a Bastion Relay Day, playing every different kind of speedrun category made in Bastion one after the other. Showing off Bastion in its most broken form by community members with hundreds of hours of practice. Complete Bastion in under 5 minutes? Easy. Get first price in most of the Proving Grounds without any upgrades? Easy. Pick up every interactable such as weapons, upgrades and mementos in the game in under 1 hour 20 minutes? Easy!
Even showing off our very own Bastion Randomizer at the end, randomizing level order, weapon and secret skill positions and hopefully enemy locations!

Schedule and where to watch can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VZqm2HQGOEFnV7nvmoYbT-WRzOFDHzm0_OMHtbwnAhQ

[halcyon crest]

Where can I watch??

[violet valve]

the linked google sheet says on the respective runners twitch channels

[halcyon crest]

Thanks!

[chrome cove]

I haven't finished Bastion yet lol

[distant escarp]

how far have you gotten in it

[chrome cove]

It's sitting in my inventory gathering dust

Like i had two new weapons and I have unlocked like the area where waves of enemies keep coming..

[distant escarp]

OH

that one

[chrome cove]

yeah, it's not really too far in the game i think

or is it ?

[timber owl]

It’s pretty early

That one isn’t too bad

[distant escarp]

it depends on how you play the game too
i almost always die there cuz i forget the shield exists

[timber owl]

Oh yeah I never block

Machete is real spicy in that one

Give em the ol swish swish swish

And they dead

[halcyon crest]

I remember I had a button mash macro binded to M4

Hoo boi

The Kid gave it a few swings

[cedar patio]

my favorite is the ||bellows. spin around in a circle of fire and everything is dead||

[timber owl]

Carbine babey

I know it’s slow as all hell but when you get the speed bump you just obliterate everything

[halcyon crest]

Every weapon is bastion is a viable weapon

The cael hammer and the calamity cannon are best imo

[timber owl]

I cannot hammer

I dunno why but I simply do not vibe with it

Not being able to move is real frustrating

[distant escarp]

yes
but i like some weapons better than others

[halcyon crest]

I always have a thing for big weapons

[distant escarp]

aka that stupid fire weapon

[halcyon crest]

It bleeds into my D&D games as well

[distant escarp]

the pistols/rifle and pike/hammer were my favorite weapons

[timber owl]

I mean big weapons are fun yeah

But the fast weapons in bastion are just so much fun

[ember breach]

Instructions unclear, rapid fire mortar engaged

[cedar patio]

mortar absolutely slaps

[ember breach]

Pike and Mortar was my go-to for all NG+ stuff, alas they are a short-lived pair in the story mode

[toxic leaf]

Pike/Fang Repeater gang rise up

Come to think of it, maybe the the homing hyperspeed darts from the repeater inspired the ||poison|| darts in Hades

[lime kite]

I was a Pike/Fang repeater man myself

til I became a Pike/Scrap Musketeer

[wet bone]

the carbine is personally my favorite

[neat swallow]

hammer time gang

[reef bobcat]

Musket and repeater

[neat swallow]

I've decided I'm going to go achievement hunting for both transistor and bastion to try and complete them

And pyre now I guess since I'm only missing 5 achievements anyways

Can't wait to be a proud 100%er of all supergiant

[halcyon crest]

Good luck getting stranger's dream all idols

It's unbearably hard

[proud karma]

bring lifesteal and all the shield buffs

also watch out for acobi and garmuth

[reef bobcat]

dont forget about the turret achievement

[cedar patio]

bynn the breaker has SUCH a good intro

[proud karma]

it really does

[halcyon crest]

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

[halcyon crest]

AT LAST

I DID IT

https://i.imgur.com/9Pmw0wJ.png

[proud karma]

nice

[distant escarp]

bruh

good job

[neat swallow]

I’ll know your pain after I beat transistor and move on to bastion

[distant escarp]

i could barely beat it with no idols invoked

bastion is one of the games that i refuse to get all the achievements because of those last 2 ones

[halcyon crest]

Gel canister and mortar carried me all the way

[distant escarp]

the mortar always felt so slow to me

[halcyon crest]

With the speed upgrades it becomes pretty non-existent.

[merry oracle]

Honestly, my favorite loadouts are always Machete or Pike + Carbine or Musket.

Also, real quick, ||is the thing that determines immunity to the Calamity being unconscious? After going to Who Knows Where for Zia, Zulf, and the Kid, it seems the correlation with all of them is waking up after the Calamity. So are the effects avoided only if you're asleep?||

If that's the case it's really surprising the Kid never comes across any cats lol

[distant escarp]

the animals prob felt that stuff was wierd

[proud karma]

the calamity was some kind of volcanic activity, and venn hacked it so it wouldn't affect ura dens

so the thing that probably saved them was having enough earthwork between them and doom

zia was in the basement of her home, zulf was in the bottom of the war monument

that just leaves the kid who may have been protected by parts of the rippling walls

[merry oracle]

However, the thing is, the place the Kid was sleeping was wide open. No door whatsoever. And while it may have been volcanic in nature, it most definitely wasn't just lava due to the way it impacted the environment, and how it appears in the Terminals. It seems more like a 'volcanic infection' more than anything else.

[proud karma]

I'm guessing it's something like a pyroclastic flow

seems pompeii inspired

and the door could've been destroyed after the calamity hit

or the room thrown out of the building it was in

[merry oracle]

If that were the case, it wouldn't make sense for it to be so immaculate though. Or for the Kid to have not moved at all from his bedroll. Or for the blanket covering the very large hole in the wall to be fine.

[proud karma]

tbf everything floating also doesn't make much sense

[vague barn]

The floating indicates that the weapon may have caused some kind of singularity, or other event that warped the very state of the matter it interacted with

[proud karma]

yeah, it's mentioned in the colford cauldron level that the mancers were up to something

[merry oracle]

Well no, it's shown that the world of Bastion has advanced in a world where some form of magic exists with science. Given the information we have from the quarry, Cores and Shards are either conduits for this magic or are capable of gravity alteration to some extent.

[vague barn]

Would also explain how the Bastion is able to ||travel through time||

[merry oracle]

Alternatively, they've developed tech that easily warps spacetime to a degree. Overall, it's clear that the world of Bastion differs drastically from our own.

[proud karma]

u right

i forgot about that part

shame the kid never tells us anything about himself

[merry oracle]

Yeah

[vague barn]

I guess that’s the point of a silent protagonist, we get to mold who the kid is

[merry oracle]

Although there is the theory that ||Rucks is the Kid from a different timeline.||

[vague barn]

I’ve never heard that one before. Gives me ||bioshock infinite vibes||

[proud karma]

also you don't have to spoiler tag everything, this channel is spoiler ok

very considerate of you though

[merry oracle]

Well yeah. I don't wanna ruin it for peeps who haven't played it through yet.

[proud karma]

i just muted the channels for games i hadn't played

[neat swallow]

I am having major trouble with Zulf's who knows where

I've beaten Zia's and the Kid's, but haven't tried Rucks and I just cannot get through Zulf's

[merry oracle]

The trick for his is to focus a lot on evasion more than anything else. Keep a distance. You're best bets are the Army Carbine and Scrap Musket, with either Trip Mines, Hand Grenades, or Squirt Lure as your Secret Skill.

[neat swallow]

Alright, I was using mortar, carbine, and trip mines so I think I had the right idea

Musket would def help with the stupid ground-diggers and poison eyes

(And I'm going for the 10 idol achievement in case you guys didn't assume so already)

[merry oracle]

Oh yeah, if you're doing that, then you need the Squirt Lure or Gel Canister. Garmuth and Olak are gonna be you're main problems, given that all of Zulf's enemies are already hard to hit.

[neat swallow]

Oh ok

[neat swallow]

Ok so beat it with the musket and portal turret, but now I am seriously having trouble with those big bulls that come rushing at you in Rucks

@merry oracle

[merry oracle]

Oh, them? You usually want the Pike or the Bow, specifically if you apply a slowing effect to them.

The Pike actually deals REALLY high damage, so it's good for keep-away, plus you can use it at a range.

[neat swallow]

Alright

I was using the pike before but I just had to change it from 50% crit damage to dealing knockback

Way better now

[merry oracle]

That helps too

[neat swallow]

Now I'm stuck with those oh so annoying blue spike bushes

[merry oracle]

For them you wanna shield and get behind one. Then, since they don't take damage from each other, you can use the one you're behind as a shield while you block it's projectiles. Then you don't have to worry about the others as you wait for the opening.

[neat swallow]

Yeah it was moreso when there was a guy attacking me while there were 5 of those spread all around, making it impossible to avoid lol

I made it to having only 8 waves left

[neat swallow]

This is honestly making me pissed

I have gotten to the 2nd to last one 3 times now and lost

[halcyon crest]

keep trying!

You'll get it

[proud karma]

don't forget your drinks

changing your drinks can help a lot

[halcyon crest]

Leechade and Bastion Bourbon are an absolute amazing synergy

And don't worry about Zulf's dream. You'll get it eventually

It's the Stranger's dream you want to be worried about...

[neat swallow]

I already got Zulf's dream which is why I'm now on stranger's

I literally just died on the final wave

I'm done for tonight

I don't usually rage quit, but I'm too salty to keep trying

Unlike the pyre achievement with all titan stars, this is like a 25 min commitment each time I try so it feels really bad when I die like that

[proud karma]

come back fresh and rested tomorrow

[neat swallow]

Yep will do

[proud karma]

also i recommend taking all the shield boost drinks

[neat swallow]

Alrighty

Is the score attack achievement hard at all?

Since that'll be the final one I go for

[proud karma]

not really if you have gel canister and get to the right level

[neat swallow]

I'm about halfway to level 10 so I think I'll be set

[proud karma]

level as in location

my b

[neat swallow]

halfway in xp that is

oh ok

I heard kid's dream is pretty good for racking up points

[proud karma]

yeah the dreams go really fast so you can keep combo

[neat swallow]

I won't be doing stranger or zulf, but I'll probs do the other 2 in score attack

[halcyon crest]

Is the score attack achievement hard at all?
You can theoretically get the achievement in Kid's dream alone.

You can easily get a mil with all but olak and acobi turned on

You just have to make sure you never drop the combo

There is a really great guide that shows you how to get it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1889781771

I do disagree with the potions it gives though

Dreadrum is almost useless to me

I think the most essential ones are - Cham-pain, Leechade, Bastion bourbon, whale ale, Lifewine and bull brandy

[neat swallow]

Thanks!

[modest kettle]

I played Bastion about 500 hours, a lot of it was score attack on the stranger's dream tweaking my loadout trying to get the highest score I could with all idols enabled. the tl;dr is that the essentials are Brusher's Pike with Barbed Spearhead & Galleon Mortar with Bomb Barrage. These are the only weapons that hit through Garmuth and Olak while doing enough damage to kill mobs as fast as you need to. Tonics: Leechade, Cham-Pain, Lifewine, Doomshine, Bull Brandy are strongly recommended

I didn't write a steam guide for the full setup, just a reddit post that nobody read. maybe I should move it into a steam guide

Looks like with the achievement you don't have to use 10 idols so in that case I would recommend disabling Olak and using the Fang Repeater instead of the Galleon Mortar

Olak is the biggest score attack killer for sure. Looks like this guy got 6mil with fewer idols, that's impressive. my best was just under 4 mil with ten idols

Oh, that 6 mil is a total of all score attacks, not just the stranger's dream? hmmmm lol

[neat swallow]

YESSS

I didn't realize how much health those final two guys had

so I watched a video before attempting the last wave again

and they literally used two bomb barrages on each of them

I used 3 of my health tonics on just the last wave

So happy to get that over with

[neat swallow]

So glad I found this now lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwicSlqkqO4

Turret madness

and he's only level 2

[modest kettle]

Nice dude, grats

and yeah bomb barrage is really good esp. if you are stacking crit chance effects you can get absurd amounts of damage

[neat swallow]

https://ibb.co/xhVK0YP

Now I've 100%ed all 3 completed supergiant games

I'm a true fan

Can't wait for Hades 1.0

[violet valve]

Pog

[halcyon crest]

Grats! Welcome to the 100% gang

[cedar patio]

oh congrats!

[lime kite]

One day I will 100% bastion... One day

[halcyon crest]

We shall wait for you until then

[timber owl]

Soon...

[sonic tide]

Why is no audio playing for bastion iOS?

[merry oracle]

I just realized the Kid's liver is gonna be absolutely destroyed

[sonic tide]

Me?

My liver?

[cunning path]

the Kid drinks all the time
raging alcoholic

[merry oracle]

He's constantly drunk.

[cunning path]

protagonist of bastion

[sonic tide]

Oh okay I was kinda scared

Why is no audio playing for bastion iOS?
ping me if you have the answer

[merry oracle]

He's just stumbling left and right and slurring his words all the time

Secretly none of it even happened after he found Zia, he just blacks out and the rest is an alcohol-induced dream

[distant escarp]

i mean
he basically does that a little bit later after that

[merry oracle]

My cat keeps layin' on my keyboard!

Okay, we're good, I put him in Gay Baby Jail

[cunning path]

same

[merry oracle]

AKA I put a laundry hamper on top of him

[cunning path]

you softlocked the cat?

[merry oracle]

Yes

[distant escarp]

he just wants to copy what you're doing

[merry oracle]

lol

He wants a c a r e e r

He's still purring in there too

HE'S ESCAPED

[tidal agate]

the absolute villainy of this lad

T H E R E I S N O E S C A P E

[delicate plank]

Soooooo what I'm picking up here is that the Kid's motto is basically

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/if-you-see-something-say-nothing-and-drink-to-forget.png

[cedar patio]

yep!

rip kid's liver

[merry oracle]

Yup

He's been drinking repeatedly for every mission

[delicate plank]

Maybe at least some of them are medicinal liqueurs

[merry oracle]

And with Stabsinthe, he must be taking a swig between every hit

[delicate plank]

Buuuut clearly not all

[spark mulch]

The level where you get the breaker's bow, steam version, is super laggy for me

[proud karma]

that's odd

[spark mulch]

Yeah

[ripe crystal]

I only have the Score Attack achievement left. Any advice?

[proud karma]

gel canister and kids dream

[halcyon crest]

Absolutely destroy kids dream

You can literally get the achievement solely from there

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1889781771

This guide helped me a lot

[neat swallow]

I second that ^

[proud karma]

same here

[tawdry briar]

Absolutely destroy kids dream
@halcyon crest >> things that should not be quoted out of context

I'm replaying Bastion now after I don't know how many years of not touching it (or many other games for that matter), and boy. First of all, what a thrill to experience it all again. This time it really struck me though just how rapidly it introduces new weapons, and how short especially the early levels are. Has the team ever told us if that was conscious and/or intentional?

[twilit oar]

In about a week, on the 19th of September the Bastion Speedrunning community will be doing a Bastion Relay Day, playing every different kind of speedrunning category/ruleset made for Bastion one after the other. Showing off Bastion in its most broken form by community members with hundreds of hours of practice.
Complete Bastion in under 5 minutes? Easy. Get first price in most of the Proving Grounds without any upgrades? Easy. Pick up every interactable such as weapons, upgrades and mementos in under 1 hour 20 minutes? Easy!

Even showing off our very own Bastion Randomizer, randomizing level order, weapons and secret skill positions and hopefully enemy locations!
Schedule and where to watch + more info can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VZqm2HQGOEFnV7nvmoYbT-WRzOFDHzm0_OMHtbwnAhQ

[lament sedge]

lil squirt and pecker were lost in the ura assault

i will have my revenge

[halcyon crest]

NOOOOOOOO

Rest in peace

[wet bone]

that's always the saddest thing

[cunning path]

kill them

kill all of them

no second chances

[distant escarp]

i forgot that those guys can die during that scene when i played it for a second time last year

[zenith smelt]

they died on my first playthrough and I didn't realize they could actually get saved until a long time later

[lament sedge]

im pissed picking to carry zulf didnt change the ending and i hope restoration is the way to go for ng+

[zenith smelt]

carrying zulf does change the ending, slightly

he shows up in the credits

[cedar patio]

yeah you can leave him to do (bad dont do this) or you can show mercy and bring him back to the bastion, giving him a chance for redemption

resto and evac don't change ng+ much, but it makes more sense story-wise to go resto -> evac bc of some of rucks's dialogue

[zenith smelt]

I've never left zulf but I can totally see why someone would

[cunning path]

the problem with saving zulf
is that you can't wreak vengeance upon the ura for killing your pets 🔥

[cedar patio]

i feel like the calamity did that plenty

[zenith smelt]

retroactive vengeance? 🤔

[cedar patio]

i mean it was like "vengeance" for the war

[cunning path]

No
The calamity was a failed experiment. It's not enough.
Those fools killed my pets.
MY. PETS.
I must destroy the Ura personally.

[cedar patio]

yeah genocide is cool i guess

[wet bone]

perpetrating genocide over the deaths of non-human creatures is super reasonable and definitely not a horrific response

[cunning path]

it's okay

because you can restore the world and commit genocide again

[cedar patio]

do you really want to make jokes about this

[cunning path]

no undertale-esque metapunishments

[wet bone]

hey dude what the hell is wrong with you

[cunning path]

would you care to explain the question?

[wet bone]

sure. why do you think genocide jokes are remotely funny or appropriate.

[cunning path]

it wasn't a genocide joke at all

[wet bone]

The calamity was a failed experiment. It's not enough.

it's okay because you can restore the world and commit genocide again

and those statements were.......?

[cunning path]

the first one was referring to the calamity as a punishment for killing my pets

they're not related, the calamity happened first

[wet bone]

i know this, and i'm telling you saying 'this entire group of people deserve to die because they killed my pets' is in incredibly poor taste.

as is 'oh boy, so glad this game lets me commit genocide without making me feel bad about it'.

[strange token]

hey friends, this might be a good time to change the subject.

[cedar patio]

anyway one thing i always found funny in bastion is that the kid goes to save zia twice but every time she's totally fine and just chilling

the kid: gets his butt kicked by the wilds
zia: had a nice tent set up, relaxing, just singing

[neat swallow]

She landed in a lucky spot I guess

[lime kite]

or... Zia is actually an ass-kicking Ura fighter and she just repelled the wilds monsters but she just let The Kid do the dirty work the rest of the game because it was amusing

[cedar patio]

zia is the most powerful member of the bastion

[merry oracle]

Zia is secretly the living embodiment of Micia.

More like Mizia amirite

[halcyon crest]

ba dum tsss

[merry oracle]

Thank

[tawdry briar]

[true galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcfjgAd3Iy4 hey can someone help me find the image without the bastion title?

[crimson barn]

What do the animals look like in the game?

[proud karma]

you can get a squirt, pecker, bull, anklegator and a turret from the portal crossover thing

the wiki should have some pics of each

[crimson barn]

Ahh thank you just needed the names

[fallow seal]

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/523101_198572326939561_836888977_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=85a577&_nc_ohc=_AUxzCIldt0AX_6w70d&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=241ea2d8ce32230126d5da9e3015d594&oe=5F8ED392

@true galleon I had a similar problem a few years ago this is the best i could find

[true galleon]

Thank you. Maybe I will email the art director or the composer to see if they have an image

[fallow seal]

Good luck

[supple olive]

Bastion has always been my favorite video game. Its worldbuilding and the way it creates its own unique pantheon of gods inspires me as a writer. I want to build a world as vivid and amazing as Bastion's is.

[rustic relic]

I only found Bastion at the beginning of this year and it became one of my favorite games right away

The narrator, the story, the music, it's so good

[cedar patio]

glad you found it! it's really a good one

[rustic relic]

Yeah, unfortunately, I play on Xbox so I haven't been able to play pyre, transistor or Hades.

[umbral torrent]

how did that portal crossover ever come about anyway? It was so random... welcome, but random

[solar tartan]

Valve was doing crossovers with many many steam indies back in the day

(Technically bastion isn't indie but yk)

[umbral torrent]

ah I see

yeah not "indie" but I think it was their first game right? and not exactly a major big budget stuio

[solar tartan]

Yeah it was their first game

[distant escarp]

what do you mean not indie

[solar tartan]

Indie means self published, bastion was originally published by WB iirc

[proud karma]

nowadays though people just say indie when they mean small studio or non mainstream

[deep schooner]

Actually, indie has a few definitions.

Indie can also refer to a game studio in many contexts

Generally it simply means that the game didnt recieve funding from a major studio

I think one official definition defines it as how much of the budget went in to advertisement, even.

[barren estuary]

I just finished Bastion for the first time a few weeks ago. Such a fun game, and it was really fun to revisit after playing Hades and seeing how Hades is built on the foundation Bastion laid. And that ending

[barren estuary]

I chose to ||evacuate, btw. No NG+ for me (yes, I know they patched that out)||

[wet bone]

that's the better ending choice in my book

glad you liked the game.......it was the first video game i finished so it'll always be my favorite

[barren estuary]

Aww! That's awesome!

Man, some of those dieties are rough though.

[wet bone]

oh yeah absolutely

tbh if i'm going to replay i frequently just replay on no sweat mode........i'm just here for the vibes

though maybe now that i'm good at hades i should try to clear out some achievements 🤔

[barren estuary]

Yes! I had a good friend help me choose the right equipment / dieties for my preferred play style

[timber owl]

I have come so close to 100% but never all the way

I think I'm finally gonna try this year

[muted drum]

I did the same, played it a couple times but couldn't get into it. Then suddenly got really into it and spent a whole weekend completing it

[livid lily]

I need to one day replay this game and possibly try the invocations

[barren estuary]

You can tell how they grew as a studio in their "difficulty modifier" design in later games. Some of them are rough because they make certain weapons objectively useless.

[meager solstice]

all of this hades stuff with the fast paced combat and the dodge and shield and the weapon modifications is just really making me want to play bastion again for the first time in years
The things that worked well really really shine through in Hades but I would say bastion still holds up what a smash hit

[cedar patio]

yeah bastion combat is definitely rougher than hades's but it's still fun

[graceful forum]

Does anyone known if there will be a rerelease of the Bastion Soundtrack on CD?

[proud karma]

no such plans announced as of late

[autumn granite]

you can do it by yourself

[tropic spruce]

Just started playing Bastion and wanted to ask. Does the game save only when you enter a new location?

[barren estuary]

Basically, yes.

[coarse stone]

Is there a way to restore my progress? I just finished the game but accidentally started a new one... now the process is gone 😦

[autumn granite]

nope

[proud karma]

the game isn't too long tho

each stage is pretty quick

[sonic tide]

Just finished bastion I think ima buy transistor

[lime kite]

dew it

[distant stratus]

i saw bastion on the app store and

well ppl say hades is a lot like it, sooooo download time 👁👄👁

[deep schooner]

they definitely play the most similarly

[livid lily]

Yeah, a lot of foundational gameplay can be found in Bastion

[surreal shell]

And a lot of foundational Logan Cunningham

[cedar patio]

it's also the best game, in the world,

[deep schooner]

That's a dangerous phrase to say

implying that all ssg games aren't the best game in the world

[cedar patio]

other sgg games are also the best in the world, but bastion is the bestest

[distant stratus]

bahaha, i could only hear/see a little snippet of the intro since the ipad was outta battery, but I'm already IMMERSED

[distant escarp]

hmmmmmmm
babs i think you really like bastion

[merry oracle]

Who doesn't

[cedar patio]

me? like bastion? can't believe you would say that

but bastion is just a raally fun game and it was very useful for me when i was an insomniac and had no internet so it was something i could play while i waited for the sun to rise

[distant stratus]

it's really pretty too so far like
wow :0 i def wanna doodle it already

[cedar patio]

hell yeah!!

[merry oracle]

I want a webcomic about ||Rucks, Zulf, the Kid, and Zia finding more survivors after the Evacuation ending.||

[distant stratus]

||sees Zulf's pipe
"Ooooh what's that-AAAAAA"||

[merry oracle]

lol

[lime kite]

Kid smokes pot, that's the plot of Bastion

[merry oracle]

And drinks alcohol

A lot of alcohol

[proud karma]

also eats way too much stew

it's the munchies

[merry oracle]

Don't forget all the naps

[brisk mulch]

Bastion was one of the first games I ever bought

I fell in love with the demo

Windbags were my band tho, 1cm tall and could ruin your no-hit.

[hollow pilot]

bastion

is

amazing

[odd wadi]

ikr

[merry oracle]

The Kid is an innocent bean

[distant stratus]

i like letting him just

lie down for a whiiile after he smacks onto the ground

[distant stratus]

||LITTLE ANKLEGATOR BABY||

[zenith smelt]

spoilers cause we have someone playing for the first time

||okay taking bets, will it live or die||

[distant stratus]

||IT LIVED--||

aaaa i just finished the game ;7; good stuff good stuff hhhh

[merry oracle]

Which ending?

[distant stratus]

uhhh zia

[merry oracle]

||Rescue or Abandon tho?||

[distant stratus]

||rescue xD i was curious about abandon so i might go for restore/abandon in ng+, though like... that's a kinda sad note to end on bahahah||

also im curious :0
what weapons did u peeps use?? I usually just went with dueling pistols+ hammer/machete and then had the squirt lure most of the time

[cedar patio]

bellows/mortar was my go to

[distant stratus]

oooo ok ok I'll try it next time

BELLOWS WAS COOL

[bold peak]

bellows was one of my favorite, i think i did bellows/rifle for the last parts

[zenith smelt]

for the longest time i was a machete/bow person but last time I played i was really fond of pike/musket

[livid lily]

Machete/bow or bellows were the ones I mainly went with, but I tend to mix and match for fun and in case the weapons got lonely for not being used.

[ruby cairn]

I think my usual was Hammer/Repeater or Hammer/Bow. It's been a while though

[tropic spruce]

what weapons did u peeps use??
Hammer and Bow were my "main" weapons, they are the only ones I fully upgraded. The skills I used were kinda all over the place, but I eventually settled with the hammer smash that does good AoE damage.

[wet bone]

my first playthrough i think i was big on machete/carbine, but my most recent one (which was not that recent, i should replay this game) i was actually loving carbine/dueling pistols

god the carbine is so good though

favorite weapon hands down

[toxic leaf]

I liked machete for a while, but when I finished NG+ and got a little funky I really liked repeater/bellows for projectiles that could hit anything.

Then probably mirror shield or something for the bellows

I also liked the pike when I needed a melee flavor

[wicked haven]

I'm here to Stan the Breaker's Bow. @ me if you have questions on why it's the single weapon you need in ANY GAME

[neon loom]

Just started playing this game. Really love the music and narration. Only frustration I have is in certain melee situations where I get thrown up in the air....and then again....and then again.

[wet bone]

god what a mood

visions of ||anklegator||

[livid lily]

I can't remember how I managed that, but I did somehow

[distant stratus]

i think i rolled in midair to help with that

or maybe it was just the panicking that nade me think it worked xD

[proud karma]

rolling midair does make you do recovery but it's not as good as actually dodging on the ground

just gotta learn enemy patterns

they have very specific attack timings

[neon loom]

Thanks! Will keep that in mind

[proud karma]

also you can instakill a lot of them by knocking them off the stage

knockback spear is very good against lunkheads

[whole valley]

Lunkheads are just more annoying Greatshields from Hades
change my mind

[versed roost]

hmmmm less-annoying greatshields from Hades maybe?

the shields in Hades are easily the one thing I dislike running into

[lime kite]

same

[cedar patio]

lunkheads are super easy with bellows

[toxic leaf]

Everything with armor become super easy with bellows. Like those funky armored ||flowers||

[atomic cargo]

Man, doing the Who knows where stuff with the right weapons can make you feel like a badass.

[wet bone]

i love the who knows where levels

what a great way to deliver backstory

but also, if you don't play them i think you lose some really critical information

[halcyon crest]

Not true at all

The information given in who knows where is purely flavor and not necessary to understand the over-arching plot of bastion

But I think Zia's dream is more important than the rest

Since it talks about her dad and all

[atomic cargo]

I heard there are different endings

[wet bone]

no, i think zulf's backstory is also really important to understanding his character and motivation

and zia's as you said talks about her father

if anything i'd say you can skip the kid's the easiest

[halcyon crest]

@atomic cargo Technically yes, but it all depends on the last choice and doesn't need any fancy tricks to get before hand

There are technically 3 different endings (||Turning back time with or without Zulf shouldn't make a difference||)

@wet bone The stranger's dream is completely unnecessary for the story

[wet bone]

yeah, true; it's also ng+ only so i didn't count it

[atomic cargo]

The soundtrack for it is immaculate

[halcyon crest]

Agreed

[zenith smelt]

yeah the dreams just give a bit of backstory on some characters, and somewhat vaguely at that

[tropic spruce]

Where is the savefile located?

[ebon snow]

ooooohhhh i wanna make such a dumb joke here
but it's probably gonna get me

||it's probably in your documents > saved games > bastion ||

[tropic spruce]

Only Hades is in Documents/Saved Games, no Bastion there. Just wanna keep my "completed" savefile in case I ever want to start from the beginning.

[stark jungle]

out of all the supergiant soundtracks, "Setting Sail, Coming Home" from Bastion is the one that manages to always hit me in the feels every time I listen to it

[halcyon crest]

@tropic spruce You can change save files ingame

There are 4/5 save slots if i recall

[tropic spruce]

ohhh, that's good then

[tawdry briar]

It's a bit unintuitive though - you switch between them under Help & Options > Profiles

[cedar patio]

setting sail, coming home kicks my butt every time

[tropic spruce]

Can I do the 10 idol dream achievements in Score Attack Mode?

I've done Kid's and Zia's dreams with 10 idols on my normal NG+ completed savefile already, just wanna know if Score Attack mode messes with the other two, since it says it starts a new game with everything already unlocked.

Speaking of, what were your go-to weapons when going for those achievements? Mine were the gallean mortar and the brusher's pike.

Mostly the mortar though.

[onyx portal]

man, it's been a hot minute.

I remember abusing the bone repeater quite a bit. Fully upgraded with homing bolts and the spin attack, it's quite dangerous.

But I don't remember if I managed any 10-idol dreams...

[proud karma]

aw yeah homing repeater

such a good upgrade

[onyx portal]

Guess I never did manage a full 10-idol run. Hmm. Leastways I never got the achievement.

[proud karma]

you should give them a go

[onyx portal]

I should. I've been replaying the game on switch lately, kinda... got sidetracked with the hades release...

[proud karma]

understandable

[tropic spruce]

Started playing Score Attack mode. Didn't think it would be starting a new game without keeping anything I've done on my save file, but that's fine. You know what they say. "If we can build, we can rebuild".

[hollow pilot]

the 10-idol dreams aren't that bad until you get to the stranger's from what i remember

the stranger's dream with 10 idols is a grueling endurance nightmare and its the only idol related achievement i haven't managed to get

[proud karma]

yeah

[hollow pilot]

(i used pike / carbine for reference)

[proud karma]

they very good for 10 idols

mostly because olak and garmuth

[tawdry briar]

is it just me btw or is the actual contact distance of the machete weirdly out of touch with the visuals? it always strikes shorter distance than it feels it should to me...

[proud karma]

huh never really noticed

i never really got into the machete

[ebon snow]

is it really?
i've played bastion a bunch of times and most of them were with machete + musket combo and i never felt like it was out of place

but then again - it's been a while

||machete + musket is the best combo, fite me ||

[tawdry briar]

i'm pretty sure I stuck with that combo for most of my playtime too back in the day 😄 I think i'll try to mix it up for this nostalgic replay though. is there any consensus around here regarding balancing btw? i.e. are there any just flat out better or worse weapons? || I remember finding the bellows, repeater and the revolver weirdly weak||

[ebon snow]

dual revolvers? bueno

flamethrower?
eeh - not so much
i mean - i remember it being useful, just not as fun to use
which is a case for most flamethrowers in video games, now that i think about it

[tawdry briar]

actually I can agree on that. I can't recall a game with a fun flamethrower

[ebon snow]

the only weapon i straight up found pointless was the spear
it's basically a machete... but slower and clunkier

also
||calamity canon + mortar got the best quote from rucks ||

[tawdry briar]

ooh need to make sure I try that when I get there, I don't remember that quote

[onyx portal]

The bellows's primary usefulness comes from the fact that it's natively perfectly armor piercing, which means it's perfect to use against stuff like Lunkheads or Stinkeyes or Wallflowers that have block effects. But that's kind of overshadowed because some other weapons get armor piercing.

I dunno about consensus, but the repeater is pretty sick when fully upgraded. Homing bolts upgrade turns the spin shot special attack into a real killer. I'm fond of the pistols, too, but mostly on gamepad controls where you have that strong autoaim.

[tropic spruce]

Stinkeyes are like the worst enemies, sometimes they just instakill you if you aren't careful.

[onyx portal]

Yeah it can be rough, which is why it's nice to have an armor piercing weapon to deal with them. The problem is that I like the pistols better and one of the top-tier upgrades for pistols gives them piercing as well

alternatively, the pike gets pierce too

[wet bone]

carbine + pistols are really fun

carbine is my favorite weapon. carbine + anything

[ebon snow]

stinkeyes dropping grenades

what's that one god that makes everyone drop little bombs when dying?

[tawdry briar]

sounded like a micia type of thing to me, but apparently it's acobi 😛

i remember enjoying carbine as well! tbh i don't really recall having an absolute favourite weapon when i last played it (like, four years ago or so). of course the calamity canon is memorable, but tbh a little boring and cumbersome. i'll update you when i've played through it again and found my new favourite

[proud karma]

micia is enemies have regen

because she loves everyone

[lime kite]

if you didn't do Pike + Scrap musket combo have you even lived life to the fullest

Pike was good for moving out of danger then attacking from a safe distance and for high damage, then you got the musket for blowing away crowds

[proud karma]

knockback on pike is also a great upgrade

it's a strong effect and the weapon is fast, accurate, and decently ranged

[tawdry briar]

notes taken, combinations shall be tried 😛

[inner river]

just started playing bastion after just holding onto it for like two years lol... i was missing out

[untold mica]

I just started playing bastion. There is this glitch line across my screen. Is that glitch line purposely there, because it isn't on any other of my sites.

nvm fixed it

must be something with my resolution

i thought it was on purpose because like the bastion is like "oh there is very little people left" "the world is crazy right now" so i thought they added it for specials effects. lol i am so stupid.

[little parrot]

Nah, you’re not, there’s plenty of stuff like that in games, just not this one. Glad you figured it out

[untold mica]

thanks also how do you roll??? i kinda forgot

nvm

thanks loading screen

loading screen tips are actually very useful in this game🙏 unlike other games

supergiants bless you for making useful loading screen tips

[tawdry briar]

they also have quite clever little control reminders - in my last session I kept getting hit by projectiles and at some point it figured I might need a reminder I can pull out my shield with shift 😅 it was correct

I love this discord, talking to you guys reminded me of why bastion made such a strong impression on me the first time I played it. and tbh, it was the second game that really blew my mind - before then, i had just been playing games mainly out of boredom. then came Braid with its obscure narrative, and straight after that Bastion, and suddenly I was sold on indiegames. by the time Transistor came out, supergiant had me as a sucker for anything they did...

[tropic spruce]

YES, I completed Bastion
https://imgur.com/Z8Yewzx

played the game for only 21 hours, but I enjoyed every second of it.

[ebon snow]

wow this emote combo looks like he's flailing his legs around instead of

[warped wagon]

A question; did Darren Korb provide grunts for the Kid? The more I play Hades, the more Zag’s grunts remind me of the Kid

[untold mica]

bastions fun

after i complete bastion i wanna move to hades

[tawdry briar]

@warped wagon I haven't heard a mention of it in any of the interviews or making-ofs, but it's definitely possible of course

[untold mica]

they also have quite clever little control reminders - in my last session I kept getting hit by projectiles and at some point it figured I might need a reminder I can pull out my shield with shift 😅 it was correct
@tawdry briar yes, i forgot how to roll and then the loading screen tips told me "space = roll"

also thanks for reminding me to actually use my shield

[tawdry briar]

it's the Hidden Challenge Mode, a.k.a. forgetting basic controls after weeks of having no time to play

[hollow pilot]

||https://i.imgur.com/3ISM7MM.jpg||

https://i.imgur.com/pY6lDxW.png feeling like the kid after that one

biggest advice i can give for anyone doing the idol achievements: ||bring the squid lure||

[proud karma]

nah they die too fast

i recommend leechade

[toxic trail]

does Bastion have bosses?

[proud karma]

yeah

[toxic trail]

how many?

[proud karma]

uhhh

there's usually at least one really big encounter each stage

sometimes it's just a lot of enemies and sometimes it's one really big one

[toxic trail]

ah, thanks

[proud karma]

they're not super dramatic fancy bosses like in transistor or something though

[toxic trail]

gtk

[hollow pilot]

bosses are usually just bigger versions of enemies you may have already seen / will see more of

also leechade is a passive, not a black tonic skill. did use it though.

[toxic trail]

oooh thanks

[hollow pilot]

you'll know them if they get pointed out by the narration. ||they'll show up again at some point in Who Knows Where, if you decide to do that.||

[toxic trail]

gtk

[proud karma]

i'm aware of the difference between leechade and skills, but i think that helps more than the skills

like that would be my number one recc

[hollow pilot]

tbh i'd just assume people would have that equipped regardless if they're going for 10 idols

[proud karma]

fair it is just that good

[hollow pilot]

||squirt lure also may or may not benefit from your equipped passives. don't quote me on that, but i did see it spitting thorns, and the turret died way faster when i (briefly) experimented with that.||

[proud karma]

ooh that would be cool to see

also would that be the lasery kind?

it would explain a lot

[hollow pilot]

||the portal turret from the gel canister. it shreds enemies if you place it right, but it can't survive for long on its own||

[proud karma]

yeah you have to group those

[tawdry briar]

@hollow pilot interesting to see the squirt lure recommended for Who Knows Where - during the regular gameplay I didn't feel like it helped me as much as the simple "smack all the things" specials, so I probably wouldn't even have tried it

[proud karma]

they're great morale boosters

[hollow pilot]

that or the decoy, i'd use them for the same reasons

[rotund matrix]

Does anyone know if Bastion is coming to EGS?

[atomic cargo]

I am at a point where is says that once i do go there, i cannot come back

[halcyon crest]

@atomic cargo All the best!

[atomic cargo]

any advice before going there?

[halcyon crest]

If you've made it this far, you'll be perfectly fine!

Apart from that, make sure to think long and hard on any choices you might make

[atomic cargo]

i finished bastion and I quite liked it. I really like the Kid

[tawdry briar]

funny huh, silent protagonists are so easy to like xD

[atomic cargo]

Also I just love how the kid can just casually swing around ||A massive Battering Ram twice his size and weight, at least||like it's nothing

[tawdry briar]

Kid is stronk boi

[woeful dew]

Okay I finished Bastion for the first time

Only Pyre left

And gosh, this game didn't age a bit

It's been 10 years since realese and it plays fantastic

[tawdry briar]

and if you don't touch it for a few years and then try it again, it'll be almost the same fun again 😉

[woeful dew]

Now I wait for discount on Transistor on Switch to play it again

It was my first sg game and I loved it. Want to replay it once again

Especially after live concert that happened

I am listening to soundtracks from all of the games non stop for past 2 weeks

I'm a little sad that they don't have plans to port Pyre to Switch. I would love to play it on that platform since I havent finished it

[tawdry briar]

I wonder how SGG decides which platforms to port to... based on how they said they decided against pyre online multiplayer (they said they felt it goes against how the game should be experienced), I could imagine their main consideration is how the game would play on the platform and how well that works. I don't have a Switch, so dunno if that way of thinking even makes sense to reason against porting Pyre to Switch... it could also be that due to how it's built, Pyre would be much harder to port than their other games, and they just couldn't invest that much time in it

[woeful dew]

They said in reddit Q&A that Pyre needs to be rebuild from scratches so it could work on Switch, that's why they don't make it yet. They said there is possibility that they will do it, but they are gonna need time, which they didn't have since they put most of it in Hades. I hope that after seeing how big success Hades is they will invest in some more people to make that port. I think many folks would love it since Switch is fantastic to play RPGs on

Switch has every SGG games except Pyre which makes me super sad since I would love to play it comfortably in my bed or on the couch

[rose heron]

I just finished hades and bastion

Ending music for bastion is top notch

[woeful dew]

Setting Sail, Coming Home

Love it ❤️

[tawdry briar]

I see, yeah I missed most of the reddit q&as because I've only started using reddit recently 😛 but sounds like my guess was accurate

[rose heron]

im gonna try pyre and transistor next

not sure what order but should be fun

[woeful dew]

I can link it for you if you want

Pyre is more. Hmmm weird in terms of gameplay. Transistor gameplay is more similar to Bastion but it's "turn based". Both games are top notch, but i think transitor has more similar narration to Bastion than Pyre

[tawdry briar]

@rose heron my recommendation would be bastion - transistor - pyre, because it allows you to see how they progressed as a studio and puts hades into a bit of context with their history. but any order works of course, they're all great games with amazing soundtracks

[rose heron]

ah fair that makes sense

which one's the turn-based one

or the one with turn-based aspects

[tawdry briar]

Transistor

[rose heron]

👍

[woeful dew]

Pyre is narrative based weird basketball

If I had to summarize it in few words

[tawdry briar]

@woeful dew would be nice to see that q&a actually if you have it handy! gonna have to be tomorrow though for me, it's past my bed time 😉

[proud karma]

visual novel crossed with basketball specifically

if you've seen any ace attorney games it's a similar style

[tawdry briar]

"Wizard Bastketball" I believe is the official genre of Pyre

[proud karma]

but with self immolation instead of law

[woeful dew]

@tawdry briar Okay, I'm gonna send you it in the DM

[pallid wasp]

man in retrospect bastion was incredibly influential on me & my interest in game dev

i was 7 when it came out and the reactive narration & tiles coming up to build the world were maybe the coolest thing i'd ever seen in a game and i didn't realize that was a thing that normal people could do until my dad told me it was a seven person team

i think bastion is pretty dated now but man it blew my mind then

[onyx portal]

The big thing about Bastion, to me, is that it is a good look at just how much weight Supergiant's absolutely stellar writing/art/music/sound design can carry, up to and including Logan's incredible voice.

It's the kind of game I feel would have been lost in the constant shuffle of decently-polished indie action titles without the things that made it unique, and the things that made it unique were not really gameplay-centric things

[next harness]

Glad to say I have today joined the ranks of people having 100% achievements on Bastion. Next stop - Transistor.

[weary scaffold]

I have to give Supergiant my thanks

Never have I ever felt so much emotional pain and joy in both endings

Besides, it's hard to ignore such an explicit message from this game - to move on, so it was extra painful to end the game with resstored Bastion

Last time I cried was 12 years ago, but damn this game made me shed some

But thats why games are no longer a simple pastime activity, but an art form

Thanks again, Supergiant crew, and a special thanks for Darren Korb... I hope some see this

[thick pike]

[green knot]

is it just me or the hammer is inconsistent at actually hitting enemies?

like, not point blank but at the edge of it

[minor warren]

[distant escarp]

maybe
its been a while since i played bastion

[tawdry briar]

I think so too - both the hammer and the machete actually for me feel a bit off in terms of their actual hit distance and the "feel" of how far it should hit

[limpid wasp]

I like how Steam hasn't tracked any of my hours for Bastion despite the fac tI beat it like 4 times on my trip to Australia

[fallen bane]

were you offline?

[hollow pilot]

i'd assume that based on the fact that they were on a trip

steam doesn't record offline hours

[fallen bane]

yea, that's what I thought too

[hollow pilot]

I like how Steam hasn't tracked any of my hours for Bastion despite the fac tI beat it like 4 times on my trip to Australia
@limpid wasp i played mostly in offline, it unlocked achievements when I played after going online but playtime wasn't recorded

[limpid wasp]

0.1 minutes tho

[hollow pilot]

lol, i have 18. something recorded playtime

[limpid wasp]

It's showing up in my "try this next" que

[hollow pilot]

wait then you don't have the trading cards either ig?

[jade widget]

Hey folks, I absolutely love the art from the OST and I've been trying to find a version without the track titles on it. Google image search hasn't come up with anything so I thought this might be a good place to ask. Any help is greatly appreciated.

https://i.imgur.com/BQctsIs.jpg

[cedar patio]

i don't believe there is one

[jade widget]

Alrighty, thanks for letting me know. I'll just have to do a little photoshoppin'

[plucky topaz]

i now remember why i couldnt get into this game

can't stand the mouse utilization in controls

[green knot]

the hands when wielding dueling pistol and war machete at the same time...

[minor warren]

Need a hug?

[green knot]

im alright. Just a bit exhausted.

[minor warren]

Pat pat

Have some nectar

[faint saffron]

Bastion Bourbon would be probably better, but you can't always get what you want...

[tawdry briar]

how's the buttons tho? need some oil on those weary hinges?

[open python]

so I've just picked up Bastion, and I feel like I managed to softlock myself during the tutorial...I can't get back over from this platform

anyone know what to do? xD

I guess just restart the tutorial

[cedar patio]

oh yeah i don't..... think you're supposed to be there

yeah i think all you can really do is restart

[open python]

it was pretty early on, so no biggie ¯_(ツ)_/¯

making progress ^.^

[cedar patio]

how are you liking it so far?

[open python]

it's fun! Combat isn't quite as fluid as I'd like, but I'm attributing that to me not being used to it

the proving grounds are actually super helpful

cleared the bow one on my third try, and I'm about to clear the gun one

falling off the side felt a bit funky at first, but that's more "getting used to controls" than anything else

nvm I'm not about to clear the gun one that's hard xD

[tawdry briar]

so I've just picked up Bastion, and I feel like I managed to softlock myself during the tutorial...I can't get back over from this platform
@open python Haha wow, I was purposefully trying to bug out the tutorial and didn't manage that one 😆 have fun rebuilding the world

[open python]

thanks ^.^

[tawdry briar]

I remember the first time around it took me ages to clear the breaker's bow challenge... and even now during my "nostalgia playthrough", I keep falling off the edge. I blame part of it on the fact that keyboard controls only allow 8 directions of movement 😛

[open python]

the bow one wasn't too bad, since there's no time limit

now, the sword one? there are some platforms I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to be on, because it's nearly impossible to get off of them xD

alright, gonna have to stop for now, but that was fun ^.^ I picked up Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre when they went on sale and I plan on playing through all of them

[tawdry briar]

you're in for a treat, they're hands down my favourite games of all time

How do you keep managing to get on those platforms in the first place? XD

[open python]

uhhh

I spam dodge?

it's the platform on the far left, the only way off of it is by timing your dodge mid-swing, it seems (already closed the game, or I'd have a better screenshot, I grabbed this one from google)

as the devs can attest from the number of Hades bug reports I sent in, I'm good at breaking games xD

[tawdry briar]

ah yes, I've always felt like the dodge roll messes with the "on solid ground or not" detection

[zenith smelt]

yeah dodge spamming can get you into some wacky situations

[hollow pilot]

yo

thats all

[minor warren]

Isn't Bastion like 12$ on steam...?

[open python]

$15 right now, it looks like

[hollow pilot]

wait wtf

im getting scammed then

it says 25 for me

on steam

ok nvm then ig

guess my steam just hates me

[open python]

could be regional pricing?

(that's just a guess)

[hollow pilot]

im in na

[open python]

woah, that pipe was nuts

[velvet pivot]

Usually the price differences are due to region yeah

[tawdry briar]

literally took you to Who Knows Where huh?

[open python]

yup

just got my 6th core, really enjoying this

[tawdry briar]

breezin through 😄

[open python]

is that fast?

[tawdry briar]

who knows, speed would be progress/time and I have no information about one of those two variables 😛 but compared to me either you're fast or you have a lot more time

[open python]

I'm at a few hours in

according to steam, 3.1 hours

[tawdry briar]

sounds about right, you've got a few more hours to go 😉

[open python]

Yup ^.^

Done for the night, really enjoying it so far

Can I revisit places I've been to?

Just realized I hadn't tried

[faint saffron]

Not in standard mode

There's a mode called... Point Attack...? After you finish the game for the first time I believe. You can revisit all the places there and try to complete the level with a highest score (which counts toward Steam achievement)

[open python]

Mm, sounds good!

At some point I'd want to play through all of the levels with each weapon pairing

[tawdry briar]

that sounds like a test of endurance

[open python]

Yeah, definitely something long-term

[tawdry briar]

there's 12 weapons = 66 weapon combinations, and 21 levels, so that's 1386 games

[open python]

12?

[tawdry briar]

oops sorry for spoiling

[open python]

XD

No worries lol

I already figured there were a few more to find

[tawdry briar]

yes bastion never stops introducing new weapons even till literally the penultimate level or so

[open python]

I just got the dual pistols

Gonna stick with machete / shotgun though

[tawdry briar]

that's also my current fav

[faint saffron]

I liked shotgun as well and... what weapons you have unlocked so far?

[open python]

Hammer, bone-rapid-fire-thing, machete, shotgun, bow, dual pistols, I think that's all?

[faint saffron]

ok, so I won't spoil it for you, but you should got that weapon soon 😉

[open python]

[faint saffron]

I think the time for me to play Bastion again is coming...

[open python]

I'm also really happy I finally know what a squirt is

[river wyvern]

Squirt are very adorable and make for good pets

[minor warren]

Squirtness

[cedar patio]

i love how Zulf has a little squirt companion in the evac ending, wearing an apron

i want that

[tawdry briar]

there's a reason we have squirt emotes and not gasfella emotes

[hollow pilot]

We got

[outer talon]

Playing bastion for the first time after a lot of Hades, and I’m reminded how much I enjoy it when the game encourages me to mix up which things I use. The proving grounds help a bit, but in general I’m glad that this is something more commonly used in the last 10 years

[open python]

just maxed out the upgrades for the Repeater to give it || a ton of ammo + mega rapid fire + seeking || and woooo boy that's crazy

[cedar patio]

fang repeater w seeking is Good

[open python]

I've also got all but one weapon unlocked

[cedar patio]

congrats on coming so far!

[open python]

ye!

[cedar patio]

you're not that far from the end

[open python]

I'm really enjoying this

ooo

[cedar patio]

actually i could be wrong it's been a hot minute since i've played this

[open python]

I'm only 5 and half hours in! Good thing there's apparently another mode after

[cedar patio]

you might have a bit longer then! i think bastion is like ~10 hrs?

but also bastion is a very good game and it's always a delight to see other people enjoy it

[open python]

yup!

most likely, once I clear the main story I'm gonna head over to Pyre, and then Transistor

unless I just got the order wrong

[cedar patio]

transistor came before pyre

both are also very good

[open python]

then Transistor after Bastion

which is good anyway, I can use it for research for one of my current projects

[cedar patio]

oh what's your project?

[open python]

we're making a game with a time-slow mechanic

[cedar patio]

oh cool!

[open python]

|| oh snap the Bastion just got smashed up ||

[open python]

alright, I think I'm at the last area, looks much bigger so I'm gonna call it a night

[tawdry briar]

yeah I think you're two thirds of the way in now 🙂

[open python]

XD

That makes me happy!

That there's still more

For reference, || I just brought Zia back from the ice place ||

[tawdry briar]

getting tense now then, keep going 😄

[outer talon]

Finished my first playthrough. I was doing a thing where I invoked as many idols in the shrine whenever I could, but ended up turning that off for the last level and ripped through it very quickly. On to transistor 🙂

[minor warren]

Congrats! 🎉

[open python]

uhhhhhhh

|| I just accidentally clicked on one of the "Zulf" options before I finished reading them, any way to undo? ||

[merry oracle]

Nope

Unless you restart at your last save

[open python]

which would've been...not that far back...hmm

there wouldn't happen to be an easy way to dupe my save so I can do both? >:3

[merry oracle]

Not that I know of

[open python]

welp

|| screw Zulf, then, apparently >:3 ||

|| OMG ZIA'S VOICE ||

Gaaaaah I'm getting chills from these credits

oh, aight

I can continue from before I entered the final area <--

gotta be done for the night though

think I'm just gonna burn though and check out || the other endings ||, and then make my way to Transistor

[tropic spruce]

if you just want to see ||the other endings ||, you don't have to replay the entire game, you can just ||load the last save since it saves from the point before you enter the final area.||

[open python]

yee

[marsh haven]

Minor spoilers?||Okay so in the strangers dream, N is for Nordy the bird boy, but the book Rucks is reading is from when he was a kid; How would Nordy be in this book assuming he is younger than Rucks?||

[merry oracle]

||The theory is that Rucks is the Kid from a past timeline.||

[stuck storm]

if i liked hades would you guys recommend this game?

[brave jetty]

I'd say so

Do keep in mind that it's also the first game SG made, so it's gonna be a bit rough on the edges

[merry oracle]

Yeah. It's got an arsenal system like Hades, but you can have two weapons you can swap out as well as a tertiary ability that has a resource management to it.

You have melee and ranged weapon options, though you can pick any two that you want.

[open python]

word of warning, your dodge works differently than Hades' dash, which tripped me up at first

[merry oracle]

Yeah. It's something you wanna use for mobility more than anything, as well as flanking enemies.

[distant escarp]

alway be rolling

[open python]

yeah--for avoiding attacks, your shield tends to work better

[merry oracle]

Eh, I'd say it's best to use your shield as a way to close distances under heavy fire and to counter attacks, not evade damage, as you're left way too stationary to get out of bad situations just by shielding.

[distant escarp]

yea

[cedar patio]

i love using the shield to send back attacks

[wide quartz]

just replayed it again and my god what a fantastic game

thank you devs

the best storytelling experience I've had in a videogame bar none

[cedar patio]

yeah like i Love all of supergiant's game but the story telling in bastion is unbeatable

[stray crest]

Hi I just bought bastion

im in love with this game

[cedar patio]

glad you enjoy! it's my personal favorite

[stray crest]

sure

[open python]

I just played through it as well, really enjoyed it :D

[tawdry briar]

so are squirts a type of windbag?

in Cinderbrick Fort, the narrator talks about windbags a couple of times, but the enemies appearning at the time are squirts. so I'm figuring squirts, windbags and maybe scumbags might be like races of the same species, but all of them formerly worked together with humans

[tidal echo]

I thought that they were just different ages of the same species

[tawdry briar]

seems you're right, the fandom wiki considers windbag the family name, and squirts, gasfella and scumbags different stages of development. And apparently gasfellas were in some sense part of society because they worked with (for?) humans (I do remember that from one of the earliest levels, the workmen ward), but then there is the issue of the distillery offering "squirt cider", made with "squirt extract", so the relationship between humans and windbags must have been tense to say the least...

[open python]

Gasfellas were also present as workers in one of the later levels, the mines, and there were a couple that started out friendly unless you accidentally hit them

[tawdry briar]

Yes, wiki says the mines is where they're originally from apparently. So I guess they have some sort of natural drive to work with metals..? Sounds a bit like dwarves to me

Gotta remember this for the next dev Q&A... how much of the stories/world of your earlier game do you still remember, and can you tell us some stuff about the worlds of bastion or transistor that didn't really make it into the game XD

[wicked haven]

I love this game very much that is all

[tight snow]

I bought the game on steam today cus cheap and I love hades and want to see what else the studio has made.

[quiet oar]

you won't regret

[dreamy scaffold]

What, did no one have any trouble with the Repeater Trial or Challenge?

[tropic spruce]

I think it's one of the easier ones

[tawdry briar]

Yeh repeater wasn't the most troublesome one 😅 that machete though... annoying squirts running all the time

[dreamy scaffold]

The machete one’s been the easiest for me. Spawn camp all of the fleeing Squirts since they all spawn in the middle, and then take out the rest. Ez does it!

Idk if it’s playing the game for a good hour or more but the Repeater one had me averaging at 40 targets. I can’t even begin to know how to do it, other than “aim good”

Well, I did begin to imagine it. Blegh

[outer talon]

I wasn’t aware that forge and distillery upgrades were active during the trials and the repeater went “can’t imagine how” to “oh I guess I won it all?” after getting three upgrade levels on the repeater

My favorite version of this was fire bellows where ||I had lifewine equipped and ran into the middle of the squirts and exploded all of them in a single go||

[grand spear]

I remember struggling with the Launcher trial

Got through it in the end

[tawdry briar]

yeah I think I left most of the trials until after finishing the story, so the weapons were already upgraded at that point

[merry oracle]

I just did every trial as it was unlocked-

[dreamy scaffold]

I always try to do them as vanilla as possible...or, assumed that was the case.

You get the weapon’s upgrades for the Trials?

[zenith smelt]

upgrades and secret skills

[tawdry briar]

super secret super skills

[dreamy scaffold]

No I mean like, you’re able to use your current upgrades in the trials?

[tidal echo]

Yes

[dreamy scaffold]

Say, it's not just me having an issue specifically with the left Tree targets in the Slinger challenge, right?

[ionic pelican]

Hey fellas, so bastion is far from roguelikes right?

[tacit bolt]

Correct, Bastion is not roguelike at all

You play each area once in each playthrough, and one playthrough will give you at least 90% of the plot if you get all the extras. There is some backstory stuff you might not get until newgame+

[dreamy scaffold]

So just to confirm, you can't turn off Auto Aim?

[tawdry briar]

PC lets you autoaim with Shift (it doesn't autoaim by default) so I would imagine they give you the option to use it or not on other platforms as well

[dreamy scaffold]

Shift is Shield oHo

Autoaim triggers when you're in a mid-range proximity to an enemy for me...

[tidal echo]

I think that is a setting you can toggle

[tawdry briar]

Shield and autoaim trigger simultaneously for me so both Shift

[mild cairn]

Hmm, on console the autoaim is a toggle button and then a meter that I think represents distance of snap-to maybe? It must be the same as what you're talking about?

I didn't find a button to toggle it on the fly in the keybindings like described for PC but maybe I didn't look hard enough.

[tidal echo]

I could be wrong

Its been a while since ive played

[strange talon]

bough bastion on the switch, and i'll try it out tomorrow

[tidal echo]

Yooooooooo

[fallen jasper]

Bastion's one of my favorites of all times, and dayum if it's not a merited place

[minor compass]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0tZ7EcmrIMXPLsklyNZfiz?si=EHY3XzpxSRujgL12qy8dUQ
This is absolutely amazing!

I'll always be proud of Supergiant being one of the pioneers of the gaming Industry

May the Bastion Protect you, or guide you

[kindred fossil]

Listening Remember the Bastion right now. Brings back so many memories

[minor compass]

good time to mention that this is the best introduction to a soundtrack EVER
https://open.spotify.com/track/3d06Ep3yKXhYH0FsPuoUSC?si=pnWOyojhRSelPERH2Pwz5Q

[zenith smelt]

ahh yess

so good

[faint saffron]

I also absolutely love that image there - Kid with headphones.

[minor compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7TcJ2E0-I
this is a really good documentary

I would highly recommend it

there is a spoiler or two in that video

[hollow pilot]

I beat Bastion once a while ago, anyone think it's worth another play thru on switch?

[merry oracle]

I mean
It's Bastion
So obviously yes

[cedar patio]

i like bastion on switch, but it was annoying that you can't remap buttons

[sharp lintel]

I'd say 100% the game is worth it and gives a sense of accomplishment

[minor compass]

Just finished New Game Plus today

I still can't bring myself to ||leave Zulf behind and Turn back the Clock||

[rustic hollow]

He lands on top of a Breaker's Bow, and it ain't broke.

I can't enjoy Bastion gameplay anymore after the fluid combat of Hades, but man I'm a sucker for the narration.

Does anyone know if there is like a compilation of just the Bastion narration, like an audio book or something?

[tidal echo]

Not that i know of. If you eant i can see if i can pull the audio files out of the game (if it isnt illegal)

[rustic hollow]

thank you. but i found some videos that can scratch that itch for now.

appreciate the offer though.

[tidal echo]

🙂

[rustic hollow]

This is the one I found. Good editing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RTkUgov60g

[tidal echo]

Nice

I have each sgg as a #1 in a certain category and Bastion is the #1 in voice acting and (probably) story

[minor compass]

https://youtu.be/6RTkUgov60g?t=41
can someone make an Animaniacs Intro meme with this?

[strange talon]

started playing bastion

it's pretty cool

[grand spear]

Hades is everything I didn't get in Bastion

I Enjoyed Bastion but it felt real slow.

[strange talon]

it is a little slow

but still enjoyable

[dreamy scaffold]

My excuse for adjusting so easily to Bastion after playing Hades for a good how-many-months is
You're not a god anymore, so you can't expect yourself to move like one
That, and old game.

No but uh, I'm gonna be honest...

[dreamy scaffold]

I always aimed manually before learning I can use the Shift key for stuff outside the Dualies' Trial.

[orchid frost]

I-I finished Bastion today. Played it for the first time.

It's... it's so short 😭 ...I want more... blease

I know i still can start new game plus and max out all the challenges and whatnot

But I want more of the story

[tawdry briar]

😦 Sadly, there will never be more of that, not from the original hands at least

[orchid frost]

yeppy yep... though... I enjoyed it a lot. The artstyle is so cute. It was a lot of fun gameplay-wise.
Tho,,, I feel like the two decisions I made in the end didn't really matter. Because the game ends soon after making them... I just can't see their outcomes 🤔 ...so yeah I love SGG and h but it kinda felt like I'm in the middle of the story... not in the end.

[tawdry briar]

I cried the first time, once for each ending 😳 I see what you mean though, it's not like Pyre or so where you have to live with your choices from as early as 1/3 of the way in or so

I did feel ready to depart that world though when the game ended, it made me happy. Well not happy, but satisfied

Though even in Pyre, the outcome of your choices is entirely in the narrative. SGG have never really made anything where your choices really result in playing a different game so to speak. Branching level sequences or such. You mainly get to make two choices: how you want to play (esp in terms of difficulty), and how you interact with characters. Interesting observation 😄

Then again, have you played any game where you felt your decisions mattered more?

[amber kite]

That's a tough question to answer directly, in a sense the decision at the end of Bastion can't matter more since on it hangs the fate of everything the player has worked for, but in another sense there is no more game after that decision, so for a player disconnected from the world or characters it means nothing but a slightly different credit sequence. I would put forward Undertale as a game that reacts well to the player's decisions without making those decisions the only defining feature of the game. Other games that advertise themselves by claiming "multiple endings" often end up being similar to games like Until Dawn or the Henry Stickmin games, where the gameplay is entirely making the decisions. I'll list some other games that feature decisions with long-term consequences before this turns into an entire rant: The Outer Worlds, Disco Elysium, and The Stanley Parable all come to mind.

[empty narwhal]

there’s Chrono Trigger

[minor compass]

little slow? I beat the game in about 3 hours, but I get what you're saying

[grand spear]

Oh no, it's definitely not too long. It's just that the kid moves real slow

[minor compass]

I just roll a lot, but I understand

[grand spear]

He even rolls slow

It's not a bad game at all. It's just my personal peeve

[tawdry briar]

Also Undertale will only vary the dialogue as far as I'm aware though, no? Similar to Pyre, you still play the same game, but the characters you meet might have different text or every now and then characters might be swapped out for different ones depending on your actions. Until Dawn and its relatives dealt with their choices they give in a pretty horrible way tbh, where if you let a character die, for the rest of the game their relevant bits of dialogue are just cut and the result is a lot of awkward cutscenes where things don't quite match up. Outer Worlds as far as I've heard just has a lot of optional content, which is of course a nice form of player choice, but does result in hilarious speedruns finishing it in 10min XD Tbh I'm not entirely sure if it's possible to accomplish a different kinds of player-dependent game without ending up in the LoZ open-world territory. I definitely agree with you, the choices in Bastion are as substantial as they could be - but their substance lies entirely in the narrative, and they only modify the meaning of what has already happened so far due to their positioning so late in the game.

[minor compass]

then there's pretty much every Tell-a-tale game ever

[strange talon]

This game is pretty easy so far except for bullhead court

I can't get hit less than 3 times for the life of me

[faint saffron]

Oh, I remember it took me some time to complete it...

So don't give up! :)

[misty nexus]

Hello! I’m having problems with the steam client for the game. Whenever I try to run it, the game ends up kicking me out for some odd reason and I don’t know why. So I always have to go and open the game locally.

But even then this game doesn’t even work with my controller even though it says on the steam page that it does. Why do I feel like I’m being lied to...

[ruby cairn]

I have played Bastion with a controller so I can confirm that works. Maybe check the drivers for your controller? If it's just not detecting the controller when it's plugged in,y ou may need to manually assign the driver to the device. As for the Steam client, all I can reccommend is making sure Steam is updated and run a "Verify Local Files" on Bastion from your Library page to make sure all the info is there

[grand spear]

I had issues with controller too. Try using kbm to go into the options menu and manually enable controller there. Think that's how I solved it.

[spare jetty]

so, i have a theory. (and i realize its probably been discussed here before, and confirmed or denied, so apologies if i am just repeating past conversations) but i believe that the army carbine was supposed to originally be an armor piercing weapon, due to the fact that all of the enemies you find around where you get it have armor, and most of the other weapons you get are usually very effective against the enemies near where you get them, but the carbine just feels... lacking

[tawdry briar]

it does eventually get an upgrade to ignore armor, so it's quite possible they originally designed it to have that off the bat and then realised it's too powerful and shfited it to the end of the upgrade tree

[chilly oyster]

Carbine still is a good weapon, esp. when you max it as it has 2 very good lvl.5 upgrades (AoE or armor-piercing bullets)
it does good damage, and it's versatile since you can snipe w/ it but also use it up close like a shotgun
the biggest problems i have w/ it are that it can actually miss (bad w/ low firing rate), and that it gets a bit outclassed when compared to Cannon and Mortar
the Cannon does more damage as a long-range sniping weapon, fires faster and causes AoE damage at all ranges, also very reliable w/ auto aim
the Mortar (best weapon in the game) is better for both long and short range, as it has higher damage w/ (potentially) huge AoE, ignores walls and is also very reliable

[stuck storm]

does the bastion gameplay get any faster? im about an hour in but so far it seems very slow and clunky (compared to hades at least)

[ruby cairn]

it is pretty slow and clunky, unfortunately. There's a decent variety of weapons, but The Kid is not a speedy creature

[mellow night]

i tried bastion and i didn't really like the narrative style gameplay and i just felt the gameplay was kind of lacking with the same basic layout of the map

not saying it was bad just wasnt my type

would transistor or hades be any different or the same

[warped bolt]

Hades is very different

Transistor a bit less so. It's still a very different game, and the narration works differently, but it's closer.

[wintry forge]

all of supergiant games's games are very different, but they have quite some stuff that's similar. I dont think i needed to talk about the atmosphere and all, but in terms of gameplay, bastion's gameplay is quite the same with hades with all the hack and slash, but bastion's leans more into your general story-driven game with an ending while hades is a rogue-like with an additional story to fill it up, if that made sense. Transistor is somewhere in the middle, the combat isn't as complicated as hades but isn't as simple as bastion either. The narrative gameplay of transistor is present as it is present in bastion though