h2-for-new-players

[uneven ermine]

or daggers rather idk what they are

[vivid flare]

Not great unless you get Reaper Knives

[tidal moss]

Hera is good but only really shines on high ||fear||

[uneven ermine]

so should i just take

[vivid flare]

The hell she only shines on high Fear

[uneven ermine]

sprint?

[vivid flare]

Her sprint is excellent, yes

[stiff hawk]

ahhhh Reaper Knives. I wonder if their buffs apply on omega?

[tidal moss]

Although she's been buffed and I haven't played much, I just prefer other gods tbh

[vivid flare]

So glad it's back to AoE

[uneven ermine]

it was my first time luth i actually have

||the poseidon one so i always spawn him & suddenly this bish spawned!||

[vivid flare]

It should, yes, it says Attacks (plural), right?

[uneven ermine]

||after i got my 2 seeds from the chaos gates, is there really any use for me to even take them?||

[jagged pawn]

The artificat "The Next fountain turns 1 random Common Boon of yours Heroic" - It doesn't work? I arrived with 1 common boon, used the very first fountain, it is still common. No heroic boon in sight. Bugged or very misleading wording does anybody know?

[vivid flare]

Yeah, besides the Boons, there's materials to gather there

[stiff hawk]

I have no idea, but was thinking the same

[uneven ermine]

it's just the seed ? or more?

i just feel like Fing my life is for my runs yk?

curious if it's worth or not for me to do or should i focus on completing a first run

[vivid flare]

More

And generally, the Boons are worth the price of admission

[uneven ermine]

kk

[stiff hawk]

chaos boons can be so op

[vivid flare]

Plus if you check Wells, sometimes you get an item that forces a spawn that also lets you go in for no HP cost

[uneven ermine]

tually pinneaple

you would have an absolute hard on for the boon i have in here

" afterwards your special deals 51% damage increase "

[tidal moss]

Did you have the keepsake equipped?

[uneven ermine]

hats the one u like no the right click

maybe i should try it this run for fun

[tidal moss]

Chaos my beloved

[uneven ermine]

||i wish there was an easy way to see who i gifted & who i didn't||

besides going through the keepsakes

[stiff hawk]

yeah, that one is one of my favorites, although I don't get sexually aroused from Hades at all, I am weird like that

[tidal moss]

Have you unlocked the ||codex||

[uneven ermine]

is that he C?

base keybind

[stiff hawk]

there is. let this be a motivation for you to not neglect resource farming and incantations

[vivid flare]

There's an incantation for it

[uneven ermine]

ah

okokko

For the right click build

what do i want as my boon? & to get a good run

for my left click build i kinda had a goal in mind

but idk what to go for

[tidal moss]

Just say attack and special i'm a controller player 😭

[uneven ermine]

SORRY

[tidal moss]

I don't understand

[stiff hawk]

also, a very edge-case and overlyu specific resource gathering protip, you can actually gather resources during combat

Comes in handy when you are barely pushing through and see that nice fancy resource in boss arena or something

[uneven ermine]

SPECIAL

i meant special build!

what should i go for as special build with daggers

[tidal moss]

For blades? Either blitz or scorch

[uneven ermine]

what is the star circle thing

i have choice between

||pos & a star/circle god idk if they're good or not||

[tidal moss]

Huh?

Oh is it orange?

[uneven ermine]

Its a star shape with a circle in middle

Yea

[tidal moss]

Yeah that's Apollo, not really good for your build but go check him out anyway

[uneven ermine]

i think pos is prob not good either for special build

so whichis the best from both shi options 🤣

[tidal moss]

Probably Apollo here

[stiff hawk]

I don't want to be that guy, but greek mythology is totally worth reading and learning names of most important gods

[uneven ermine]

hmmm nova strike or lucid gain

[stiff hawk]

If you don't learn names of greek gods by the end of the week, Eris will come to you at night and will speak non-stop about her family stuff, depriving you of sleep and sanity. Curse upon thou!

[uneven ermine]

40 magicka restore on cast expire is prob insane for a special build?

but idk how op nova strike is!

[tidal moss]

Nova strike is mid asf

Go for Lucid gain, amazing mana regen

[uneven ermine]

yeah i went for lucid cuz mana

cuz trying the pew pew

[stiff hawk]

It really depends, I use mana regen card f.e and dont use those boons at all

[uneven ermine]

WAIT I JUST FOUND SOMETHING

||there was a shop ?? like cauldron||

||sacrifical hym, does that remove one of my gods?||

[stiff hawk]

And now I am thinking about how many cauldrons are there in the game

[tidal moss]

Yeah chaos wells

[tidal moss]

No, your next boon will offer a sacrifice boon

[uneven ermine]

first time encountering!

are they good?

idk what a sacrifice boon is

[stiff hawk]

you replace boon you already have with another

[uneven ermine]

:O

so if u get a shi boon u can replace it

[tidal moss]

It only applies to shared boons

[stiff hawk]

tbh I don't know the details of how sacrifice boons work exactly. its kinda situational

[tidal moss]

Like you can swap your attack/special/cast/sprint/regen boons

[uneven ermine]

the new god i unlocked ( no spoilers of name )

is it worth going a 2nd time? i have her as choice to go for

[stiff hawk]

shared are those in the left column when 'B'?

[tidal moss]

Yes

[elfin granite]

Um, the gods released literal millenia ago. Are they really a spoiler? 😛

[tidal moss]

Yes

[uneven ermine]

it's a spoiler to say that got unlocked

as it's not a base one? that's what i meant

i only now unlocked her after idk how many runs

[stiff hawk]

Yeah, half of hades fans already are aware of greek gods and whatsnot, not sure if that is such a spoiler

[uneven ermine]

dont want to ruin it for ppl who care for spoilers thats all

[tidal moss]

There are much worse spoilers

[elfin granite]

'twas mostly a joke tbf

[stiff hawk]

and twas a damn fine joke, tbb

[uneven ermine]

i couldnt gift her like u said on 2nd either!

||i just got the duo of her :O||

[tidal moss]

Although someone got mad at me the other day for talking about ||hidden aspects|| in the gen chat

[uneven ermine]

sun woreshipper

[stiff hawk]

just keep one nectar at hand to gift someone

[tidal moss]

Do you have nectar?

[uneven ermine]

i have one in inv y

i always buy one after run with 30 bones

[stiff hawk]

hidden aspects, I sorta understand

[pearl sand]

it gives you one option to swap and upgrade one of your main boons. you don't get to specify which one, though

[uneven ermine]

||so now i'm a summoner :O||

[tidal moss]

Gen discussion spoilers are only things after 1.0

[uneven ermine]

ok that is Fing op

||i kill the guy first that i know does alot of dmg & he just one tapped al the mobs 🤣||

||i just got something for the first time ever, a heroic boon cuz of hera " bridal glow "||

and it procced on the sprint.. it does 195 dmg now holy f 🤣

[pearl sand]

hell yeah

[vivid flare]

Pray for the Night Bloom Hex, because that'll buff the ones from the Hex as well

[dull kite]

double centaur heart or boon in surface ephyra city?

[vivid flare]

Well, HP and MP rooms can spawn ||Artemis||

[pearl sand]

it depends. what build are you going for?

[dull kite]

got zeus attack demeter special heph gain rn with skulls aspect of hel, plan to get hestia cast

it can proc blitz and chain lightning really fast with aspect of hel attacks

[pearl sand]

are you struggling for health usually?

that's already some strong stuff, so maybe health would be more useful, unless it's a god you know you want a boon from

[dull kite]

it's another zeus

usually i try to get health because i don't want the boss to cost me a dd but idk if a boon would help me survive better

[pearl sand]

yeah, could go either way sounds like. zeus could give something good. just yolo and go with your gut?

[dull kite]

can she spawn if heracles spawned earlier?

[vivid flare]

She can. One NPC spawn doesn't lock out another (can't have multiple in the same room, though).

Plus it's more beneficial to have him already spawned for the night so he doesn't eat the ||Artemis|| spawn (since he can show up anywhere and she can only show up in non-Boon/hammer rooms)

[uneven ermine]

||WHAT THE F IS " uh oh " HARDEST THING I FOUGHT AND ITS A SMOLL TINY RAT HE ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED ME!||

First time i've encountered this thing!!!!

[pearl sand]

yep

[uneven ermine]

whatr the F

[pearl sand]

i was shocked, too

[tidal moss]

The problem is you can't see it half the time

[uneven ermine]

YES

stpd smoll Fer

@tidal moss

||i unlocked the keepsake collection thing, to track how/where where do i acces it, is it where you swap keepsakes?||

i just unlocked the incantation

[pseudo sluice]

What stats does Strength max out at?

-40% taken and +20% dealt?

[vivid flare]

Fun fact! It's an enemy from the first game

[vivid flare]

Yep

[pseudo sluice]

Finally leveled it up, think I'm going to try a run without DD and hope for the best

[uneven ermine]

Fun fact, i WISH IT WOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE FIRST GAME!

[lofty lotus]

so i got a few questions, first i met another pet in erebus and pet it but it just disappeared and i cant find it back at base, also whats the best build to trz and force with the basic torches aspect and whats the best keepsake to take for that weapon

[uneven ermine]

It ruined my INSANE rng run 😭

||i don't understand fishing, don't you press when the thing in the water moves ???||

||sorry english is my 3rd language so idk what the thing in water is called lol||

i keep failing it

[pseudo sluice]

That's what I thought before and I kept getting ||"escaped"||

||The thing in the water will actually go down when they BITE, that's when you can press E again to retrieve your fishing rod, not when it moves!||

[uneven ermine]

ah........

Right, that makes sense, i was like am i doing it to slow ??? but nvm to fast lol

Tyvm !

[pseudo sluice]

no problem I thought the same thing and was wondering why it wouldn't work for quite some time

[lofty lotus]

||thats how fishing works in real life too tbf, the float must alwazs sink||

[pearl sand]

you don't get it from the first encounter. you'll eventually ||get an incantation for witch's delight, which you feed it to get it||

if you don't already have it

[dense anchor]

it'll ||flash white to let you know when to fish||

[lofty lotus]

ah so i must do the thing first okay okay

whats the best build to trz and force with the basic torches aspect and whats the best keepsake to take for that weapon, also i unlocked everz single arcana, whats the must have combo?

[dull kite]

is renewed faith always worth it?

[lofty lotus]

||is excellence worth it?||

[pearl sand]

depends on the other options and how it's going

[pearl sand]

it's the 5 grasp one, right? not really

[wary night]

nope, not really
||origination + the reroll corner with boatman are almost always the best 5 grasp cards||

[uneven ermine]

||hold on, i can swap my keepsakes after a boss?||

[wary night]

yes! you unlocked that via an ||incantation|| iirc, you can't at first

[uneven ermine]

i guess it's turning into, less " rng " and more controlled :O

that's cool

[lofty lotus]

||what about unseen?||

[uneven ermine]

||euhmn i just made demeter angry, because i choice hestia?? there was 2 on the floor :o i didn't f myself did i? first time i had something like this||

[pearl sand]

it's pretty horrible

almost always easier to take care of magic regen with other ways and use the grasp for something else

[wary night]

||unseen is worse than almost every "gain" boon in the game, and every single god has one||
it's... kind of a new player trap imo? it solves a problem you may have, yes, but it is the worst and most expensive solution to that problem, and there are so many solutions available

[lone sapphire]

Nope it’s intended, you have to pick one and the other gets mad

[wary night]

don't worry! this sort of thing is unavoidable lol and has no permanent consequences (||and you get 2 boons out of it so if you can survive it's nice||)

[lofty lotus]

i wanted to post mz cards but i got no idea how to screenshot on the switch 2

[pearl sand]

just draw a picture in paint

[uneven ermine]

Thank god it's not !

[wary night]

if you want input on them you could prob just list the names...? might take a while

[pearl sand]

or take a pic with your phone like a boomer

[wary night]

altho tbh it's mainly the 5 and 4 cost cards that are going to mostly be the same every time. the others are at least more flexible imo (altho there are a bunch I never change lol)

[lofty lotus]

meh i think i got it down, i really like death tho, although it is a crutch

[wary night]

death is good!!! it used to be less good but the alternative got nerfed a lot, I usually use death these days

[lofty lotus]

what about the arachne sash is that also a new player trap

[uneven ermine]

OMGGG

[pearl sand]

it's not amazing or anything, but it can be helpful it certain spots

[uneven ermine]

i finally found from the forge

[wary night]

idt so! it's kind of niche but it's nice when it works. I don't take it often but it's not bad
I mainly take it if I'm already going for an armor related build (like if I got one of ||her dresses|| and want to keep it safe, or if I'm using a lot of ||heph|| boons)

[uneven ermine]

||attack speed!! 35% attacks faster, that must be insane on axe||

maybe i'd finally enjoy to play axe then lol

( i only play daggers )

[pearl sand]

you'll probably always either use one of death or strength, anyway, so it's all good

[uneven ermine]

maybe i should try other weapons now cuz i got a bit the hang of it

[dull kite]

is aspect of persephone invulnerable while charging?

[lofty lotus]

but i mostlz enjoz the torches and the skull and ive been wondering what keeps on them are best, at least to start not between regions

[uneven ermine]

once i tried the daggers, i fell in love & didn't swap off it

[wary night]

I don't think so, only once you release the button and start the attack

[pearl sand]

depends on the build you want to go for, but zeus, hera, demeter, hestia, can all give you something to work with

[lofty lotus]

i was thinking zeus and appollo for the duo boon, the duo boon seems really fun, also ghost onion sucks right, oh and

[wary night]

this is my comfort loadout if you're curious btw: https://imgur.com/a/lymPX4Q
||furies get swapped out for huntress or night for certain weapons||
and in general I usually start out with a god keepsake to have some control over my build, then pick later keepsakes reactively to what I get

[lofty lotus]

||is the enchantress a must have||

[wary night]

for torches and (some) skulls absolutely, it's very good

||if you're using Ω moves at all it's a must have, and if you're not then often you're using the huntress card and want to do a quick Ω move at the start of the room anyway. I VERY occasionally play without it if I plan to never use magick and I'm not using huntress, but for 1 cost it's p amazing||

[uneven ermine]

||i think i might have a problem.... I can't log off.... i'm addicted!||

[pearl sand]

it might be slow til the duo, but worth giving a try. ghost onion is also not crazy good but can have its place

[lofty lotus]

||said enchantress tho||

[wary night]

OH

sorry, mixed it up with sorceress

[pearl sand]

enchantress is good with anything where you're doing regular attacks/specials, yeah

just remember to use magic early to get it active

[lofty lotus]

i am verz confused

enchantress lets u reroll

[wary night]

enchantress is part of the reroll corner, and on its own it would be optional but getting access to fates for more dice total is very very good

[pearl sand]

oh yeah whoops, my bad

was thinking of huntress

[lofty lotus]

id have to activate the champions thrn

[wary night]

I usually activate the entire corner 🤷

[lofty lotus]

i quite like night and messenger tho

[wary night]

you can play without rerolls, they just make it so much easier to get a good build going they're generally better than the alternatives unless you specifically want your build to be more random

[restive swallow]

Champions is an insanely good arcana though anyhow

[pearl sand]

if you have a specific build/boon set you want to go for, the rerolls are 'stronger'

if you're not as attached, other things can be better atm

[wary night]

you can also play rerolls + night and messenger
if I replace the reroll corner it's usually with other 3-5 cost cards

[restive swallow]

I mean as you get more grasp you have to choose less. Some of the 1-2 costs are quite good though, like The Huntress feels great in boss fights

I like havng Chiron active

[uneven ermine]

||am i the only one that cerberus looks ABSOLUTELY INSANE SCARY, but he' a superb bish?? eeverytime i reach him i'm like oh god but then it goes BRR||

[lofty lotus]

i assume if im going scorch torches flame flourish build is the way to go?

[uneven ermine]

||( i think this might be the first time i'm gonna be abl eto beat the 4th world, i just killed cerberus & i'm full hp ( first time )||

[lofty lotus]

not flame flourish the attack one

[restive swallow]

Once you realise the strat he's actually the easiest boss in the game ngl even though he for sure looks the scariest

[uneven ermine]

That's what i meant !

he looks super scary but he's the easiest i fought so far

but when i got to him the first time i was like what in the absolute F is that 🤣

||i was stuck on the drummer for a while ! but cerberus wasa one shot||

[pearl sand]

either can be good - maybe attack is a bit better depending on what else you end up with, but you won't know at first

[tidal moss]

Yes

[uneven ermine]

curious how hard the boss in world 4 is now

just reached it first time with full hp !

[weary tartan]

don't worry :)

tbf it's a pretty fair fight all things considered imo

[uneven ermine]

hopefully i can reach it

[weary tartan]

you got this!

[uneven ermine]

first have to do all the other stuff ! i update if i reach :D

||sorry i have to ask i never seen this||

||one door is the helping hand where u encounter the spider n such, but the other one is like a fence/door? i 've never seen this one before||

is it worth taking the last option ^

[restive swallow]

So, that's roman numerals

Essentially you can go on the path right to the boss

or take other rooms for extra boons/resources

[uneven ermine]

prob get stronger first, it would be the first time, EVEr to fight that boss so

[restive swallow]

Sure, just make sure to not get into a position where you can't, because even going straight there you'll face encounters

it's a balance

[uneven ermine]

||I MET HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME HE IS THE OWNER OF CERBERUS??||

[restive swallow]

but for sure take the other path rn, it's content

[restive swallow]

Have you not played the first Hades 🤣 greek myth 101 is that hades owns cerberus

[uneven ermine]

no!

this is my first hades game

and i'm entirely enducated in that too

[wanton plover]

hi is it possible to get 2 ||athena boons? I summoned her early but can I meet her again in olympus in one run? ||

[uneven ermine]

||hmmm one of his powers i can pick is chronos 50% lesser reinforcements, is that needed?||

||there is one to do 200 damage on casts also that seems strong af||

[wanton plover]

you can if u want to, also useful in completing minor list prophecies

[restive swallow]

Needed? No. Good? Yes.

[wanton plover]

btw, u should definitely try hades 1, it's also very good

[knotty shore]

Question regarding Aspects:

||How do I unlock Aspect of Morrigan? I have Aspect of Artemis and Aspect of Pan unlocked. My Aspect of Melinoe is Rank V. I ran into Artemis during a run (using my Aspect of Melinoe if that matters) but still nothing.

Or do I need to unlock ALL aspects of ALL weapons?||

[restive swallow]

Yeah I always reocmmend playing hades 1 first, hades 2 is basically hades (unfair edition) 🤣

[weary tartan]

not anymore

[uneven ermine]

hierophants are scary asf wtf

[weary tartan]

||keep talking to arty and upgrading your other blades I think, but im pretty sure you only need one of them maxed||

I think h2 doesn't need h1 to be played before tbh

[uneven ermine]

||the roman numerals... there is 1 left.... i'm assuming the boss is now?||

[weary tartan]

soon

[uneven ermine]

SCARY!

[restive swallow]

doesn't need it but Hades 2 is literally a more complicated and challenging take on hades 1 like

[weary tartan]

just keep going

hmm maybe idk

I find h2 to be generally more approachable but im probably not the best person to ask

[gloomy meadow]

I dont this hades 2 is more challenging especially pushing higher fear vs heat

[weary tartan]

I have like 5x the hours on h2 than h1

[weary tartan]

1000% for sure

I think h2 is harder if your coming directly from h1 since you only have one dash and have to think a little bit ahead in combat

[wanton plover]

oh so it used to in the past?

[weary tartan]

tho mel is lowkey more tanky than zag

[quick hearth]

update in case anyone else has a similar issue, I've found the solution. Turns out this is due to Nvidia's drivers which on release caused the issue. Their latest drivers released yesterday have fixed the issue for me.

[knotty shore]

||So if my other blades are unlocked, thats enough right? Also, can I use a different weapon in the meantime to do to runs to unlock Aspect of Morrigan or do I need to stick to daggers?||

[restive swallow]

Oh I've heard that 100%, I'm still trying to complete topside atm though

[uneven ermine]

||i just reached a part where there is like 5 things to buy with gold !||

[weary tartan]

||atp idk cause they changed the unlock reqs for the hidden aspects||

[weary tartan]

:)

[uneven ermine]

GL ME FIRST TIME!

BRB

[weary tartan]

o7

[uneven ermine]

HES

DEAD I GOT HIM

LETSSS GOOOOO FIRST TIME KILL

WHAT

||HE REVIVES ????????????||

gg

||HE ONE SHOT ME ?||

[weary tartan]

ope

[uneven ermine]

he hit me for 999???

[weary tartan]

||p2 moment||

[uneven ermine]

Fugggggggggggg i left my full locked in mode ;:(

||did not expect P2 )||

||i felt op! i have 18 of the green things now||

cards

[restive swallow]

😎 Get gamer'd

[uneven ermine]

||wtf am i supposed to do there tho? the whole thing was red, and i stood behind him but he still hit me for 999||

That's an intense fight tho!

[restive swallow]

|| there will be one part of the dial that is safe ||

[weary tartan]

||there's a safe spot ||

[restive swallow]

like a point on the clock

[uneven ermine]

ngl i panicked so

did not see that 🤣

[weary tartan]

||the line effects also emanate from it ||

[restive swallow]

Yeah, || in my first fight with him he put a time bubble over the safe part first ||

[uneven ermine]

LMAO

[restive swallow]

I raged so hard 🤣

[uneven ermine]

GG go be safe and get stunned! SMILE

[weary tartan]

||earlier in EA it used to actually be higher contrast but it made the rest of the arena way darker so it was hard to see other stuff||

[uneven ermine]

oooo

[vivid flare]

Generally, yes, especially with Toula

[restive swallow]

And this, kids, is why I always bring tooth to the || chronus fight ||

[vivid flare]

Wait

Just an add moment

[uneven ermine]

||how do i get D wood?||

[vivid flare]

||From D boats :3||

[restive swallow]

Tbh that still happens sometimes, || especially when he makes it black and white, but that happens a lot less to me now because I know when it's safe to blitz him down so I don't really get to that point ||

[uneven ermine]

omg strength seems INSANE

[restive swallow]

|| Upon D Sea ||

[uneven ermine]

||just learned the strength card!||

[restive swallow]

It's good, some other people prefer going for more death defiance

[weary tartan]

||upper ways :)||

[uneven ermine]

if you get alot of hp

30% dr gives u more effective hp no than a deaths defiance

[weary tartan]

sorta yeah

[uneven ermine]

would it be worth to run it

if not upgraded? because i don't even have the option to upgrade cards i only have a few unlocked too

[weary tartan]

strength is good yea

[uneven ermine]

might be cuz of the thing on top right, i have 18 now

grasps

[restive swallow]

So, here's the thing.

I think some people are a lot more scared of getting burst down than being chipped down, and if you get burst down, the extra effective HP might not actually save you

[uneven ermine]

true, i haven't seen any of that dmg tho i am super super early game, the only one tap is the one i just experienced

[weary tartan]

||yeah i cant remember what the trigger is for being able to upgrade cards||

[restive swallow]

I would go death defiance at higher difficulty even though I prefer strength

[uneven ermine]

y

thought so but for me rn i think strength op cuz of how early i am

what weapon can u guys recommend me & a build for it, as in not cards cuz i can't do a build

but boons

[weary tartan]

strength?

[uneven ermine]

i have ONLY played the dagger with splash and it has been feling INSANELY good

[weary tartan]

like any build

[wintry summit]

Is there certain god combos I should be going for

[uneven ermine]

nono in gfeneral

[weary tartan]

ah

[uneven ermine]

excluding cards i meant actual weapons

[weary tartan]

what weaps do u have?

[uneven ermine]

i have all but argent skull

[frozen sky]

What feels good for you

[uneven ermine]

non upgraded tho

[restive swallow]

I wouldn't worry about specific builds, but my fave is the axe

[wintry summit]

I’m only like 3 hours in I haven’t really seen anything yet

[uneven ermine]

yeah it felt insanely SLOW the axe but

the thanatos looks..... woah so maybe it would feel good after getting that

[frozen sky]

I like the dagger scythe with Poseidon early

[weary tartan]

oh tbh dont worry about it until you can control god rng with ||god keepsakes||

[wintry summit]

So far I’m not really digging the game as much as the first one does it get any better?

[uneven ermine]

||that's why i'm asking for build in game itself, not cards i unlocked the part where i can swap god keepsakes after boss kill||

[wintry summit]

The weapons have been cool

[uneven ermine]

||i always go pos first with splash & then after that kinda winging it, no clue about anything||

[weary tartan]

imo its way better than h1 to me personally but i can understand missing h1s vibes and mechanics

[wintry summit]

I’m not digging the character and plot so far

[restive swallow]

The axe doesn't hit as often, but doesn't need to

And you can mix up with dash attacks and specials

[uneven ermine]

what boons do you go for & what keepsake at start?

[weary tartan]

have you gotten the duo boon ||beach ball|| yet? ||poseidon and apollo duo||

[uneven ermine]

never

i only ever gotten,

[weary tartan]

get a core boon of both gods and it should be the prereqs

its a blast :) just runnin around havin a good time

[uneven ermine]

||froth duo boon & new one||

with which weapon, daggers? or axe

or u mean any

[weary tartan]

go for axe :)

any works

[restive swallow]

Me? Hera keepsake or chaos keepsake, I go for basically the bottom two rows (minus the hades card) and up the middle column + the prince + the lovers, but I've got a lot of grasp :p

I will say

[uneven ermine]

i have 18 grasp

[restive swallow]

don't sweat perfect builds right away

[uneven ermine]

nono i don't want perf builds that'es why i don't ask for cards n such

more like, combos of gods in game itself

that's all ! to experience them

i'll look for builds once i have the grasp maxed

[restive swallow]

Generally speaking, axe likes

Hera, Apollo, Demeter, Aphrodite, and Hermes

[leaden smelt]

half asleep runs where im 1 shot has pushed me back onto DD

[restive swallow]

And works well with haephestus

[uneven ermine]

what about what spooki said?

[restive swallow]

but haephestus builds are very much haephestus builds

[uneven ermine]

pos & apollo

on axe

[restive swallow]

Poseidon is not bad, it's just not super good

[uneven ermine]

so who would u tell me to keepsake

[restive swallow]

if Poseidon is in my lineup, I'm okay with that, I like the splash

[uneven ermine]

& then swap onto after first bnoss

just want to feel good once playing axe lol

[restive swallow]

I go Hera or Chaos, because if I can get the + %damage from the chaos keepsake, I'm very happy, otherwise Hera's attack is best imo

[uneven ermine]

kk

im gonna do hera then to get the attk& try it out

[restive swallow]

Thing is that who I swap to is a giant tree of context based on what I know an axe build might need

[uneven ermine]

Thx alot guys !

[restive swallow]

I also like demeter start and the icy attack

[uneven ermine]

ooo

gonna go to sleep now i have legit been constant playing non stop absolutely addicted lmfao

thx alot for help!

[paper adder]

wouldn't hera also be good at axe special because it has more range than the attack?

[restive swallow]

Kinda. Thing is that charging up axe special is kinda situational because it takes a while

[paper adder]

I've thought of going hera for special and aphrodite with attack

[paper adder]

ah fair

[restive swallow]

I've done special-focused builds and they're fun, but they're specific

[uneven ermine]

possum u meant sworn strike right on axe

[weary tartan]

hey btw ||hera|| is def beyond erebus so ig try to spoilers

[paper adder]

I did it with charon aspect and it was actually so fun to just watch everyone erupt with like 500 damage per Ospecial

[uneven ermine]

o mb

[restive swallow]

I don't remember the specific names but if it's || hera's attack that applies hitch || then yes

[uneven ermine]

yes!

[weary tartan]

but also god names are like kinda less spoilery

[restive swallow]

I prefer thanatos to charon, I prefer the consistency

[hybrid sky]

in the peoples defence, who remembers boons by names

[restive swallow]

Also, is she post Erebus? I stg I got her very early

[paper adder]

she's on ||surface||

[restive swallow]

huh, guess I did go to the surface kinda fast

[uneven ermine]

||excluding chaos, what should i go for as 2nd god to combine with hera hitch attk?||

||i have zeus/pos as opt rn||

[weary tartan]

||zeus my goat||

[uneven ermine]

will it later on be more obvious what u need to take to get

[tidal moss]

Weapon?

[restive swallow]

Hm, both have their strengths, but zeus is very solid

[uneven ermine]

||duo? because some u need SPECIFIC things||

[weary tartan]

with game knowledge yeah

[uneven ermine]

axe! i'm trying for first time since i got some more playtime

[tidal moss]

You can see boon prerequisites in the codex

[restive swallow]

|| their duo is very unique :p ||

[fervent holly]

are ||fish|| only used for ||bones|| ?

[tidal moss]

Zeus defo

[restive swallow]

not if you don't || have codex boons unlocked ||

[tidal moss]

Yes

[tidal moss]

That's a thing?

[uneven ermine]

Anything i shouldf look out for?

at zeus

[scenic arrow]

most stuff

[restive swallow]

Just go for stuff

[tidal moss]

Just stack zeus boons and try to get queens ransom

[restive swallow]

experiment and have a vibe

[uneven ermine]

idk what ransom is

[scenic arrow]

static shock, air quality, ranged cast are all good

[uneven ermine]

i'll try!

[restive swallow]

let em discover

[uneven ermine]

i just got static shock

[scenic arrow]

dw ransom is a meme

[tidal moss]

I have taken static shock 117 times now

[tidal moss]

It's so funny when you get it to work

[weary tartan]

it's a good meme tbh tbh

[restive swallow]

the problem is that she is so goated that giving up her boons feels so bad

[tidal moss]

Never once have I felt bad about taking kransom

[scenic arrow]

you can take my hitch from my cold dead hands

[tidal moss]

I personally just don't really like hera, she's a very good god with amazing boons

Just don't like em

[uneven ermine]

mmm

||from the forge, what do you take for axe? on my dagger i always took assault for power, but idk what to take for axe||

||the attack 300 power, but only the 3 strike sequence as attk seems SUPER slow?||

[restive swallow]

so for axe, flat power is kinda weak bc your base damage is already so high, so you're looking for extra attack speed and % damage

[uneven ermine]

||or maybe melting shredder to get rid of armor||

[restive swallow]

that one is trash 🤣

[uneven ermine]

there's none of that sadly

[scenic arrow]

???

[uneven ermine]

i have ;

seeting marauder, hell splitter, melting shredder

[scenic arrow]

the armor shredding hammer is pretty great for every weap

[uneven ermine]

i'm aiming towards the shredder to get rid of armor mobs

Yeah

[restive swallow]

The one-chop is so bad

[uneven ermine]

thought so aswell

[restive swallow]

no-one is gonna gaslight me about it being good

[scenic arrow]

oh yeah the hellsplitter is bad lol

[tidal moss]

Nah u right

[proper tiger]

How do I get more death defiances? Is it the tarot cards? Do you get them in the runs? I only have one so far. I keep getting killed in Oceanus and it's probably a skill issue but I need help

[restive swallow]

it is literally 'remove the best parts of axe's attacks and leave only the worst part'

[tidal moss]

You can upgrade arcana cards

[restive swallow]

Tarot cards + tooth

Also oceanus would indeed be a skill issue, but oceanus is hard

[proper tiger]

Thank you. Now hopefully that squid thing can stop murdering me

[tidal moss]

Squid thing?

[proper tiger]

The one that spins and has jellyfish everywhere

It spits blinding balls

[tidal moss]

oh that thing, i never really fight it and when i do it kinda dies

idk what attacks it has lmao

[scenic arrow]

use cast and hit it hard and hope you win
Or just use hitch that works too

[restive swallow]

Oh that one is very doable if you just don't try to rush it. || Kill the jellyfish first, dodge the balls, run away whilst it's spinning. || And it basically doesn't do anything else

[proper tiger]

I'm so much more used to Zagreus that having to adjust to Mel's fighting style is so hard

[tidal moss]

Just something you have to get used to

everyone sucked at first, now i don't think i could go back

[scenic arrow]

jellyfish respawn

[restive swallow]

yeah but not quickly

[uneven ermine]

||just met icarus for first time!||

[tidal moss]

TWINKY GAY BOY MY BELOVED

[uneven ermine]

gave me 50 armor W

ill need it when i'm about to get railed by the fish again

[restive swallow]

phrasing

[tidal moss]

LMAO

[uneven ermine]

:O

||i got first time a natural heroic boon! engagement ring||

||is it better than zeus his lightning?||

||i have purple cast from zeus||

[tidal moss]

not really

[scenic arrow]

oh it's a sacrifice, those are always a higher rarity than the one you're replacing

[uneven ermine]

it is

have to give up my prev

[scenic arrow]

it's not a bad trade imo. I'm not a big fan of zeuscast

[uneven ermine]

rlly?

[tidal moss]

I love zeus cast

[uneven ermine]

it slapped mobs for me so hard but i'm low difficulty

same!

[scenic arrow]

zeus cast has no aoe so bleh

[uneven ermine]

ig my mobs have quite low hp & not that big packs

it's mostly st for me

but

[vivid flare]

Meanwhile, I don't like Hera cast because it's only got the flash of damage when it's placed

[uneven ermine]

||i'm gonna take it anyways, because i'm about to reach the fish...||

and guess what will happen 🙃

starting now GL me smilez

[tidal moss]

You got this

[uneven ermine]

SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE !!!!

So i have to ask, for bosses.. it's only thing i struggle with on axe

do u just not do ur last cast where u are locked forever

do you special to cancel & restart ur chain attacks?

[scenic arrow]

mass curse, especially since I don't usually grab one of her attack/special

[uneven ermine]

my attack is heras

[restive swallow]

That's part of being familiar with your own attack pattern but htat's part of axe in general, the third attack self cc's so you might want to mix up out of it with special or dash attack

[tidal moss]

i never use the last axe slam, i just dash, first two attacks, and then dash

[uneven ermine]

y

OK starting the LOVELY fish !

😊

[vivid flare]

Yep

[scenic arrow]

yeah you only really want one source of hitch

[uneven ermine]

?

what happened ???

||bosses are not static anymore? it's not fish ??||

||it's not like the first world or? i am fighting a new boss now :o eris not the dmbasss fish!ç||

[scenic arrow]

||the giant octopus is charybdis. She's a miniboss, not a boss||

[restive swallow]

One: Learn your greek myth smh Two: Minibosses sometimes have health bars but they aren't bosses

big up || our lord and saviour the rat ||

[uneven ermine]

ooooo

[tidal moss]

you reached the end of thessaly

[uneven ermine]

so that's not an actual boss the oct okok

[tidal moss]

no the actual boss is ||eris||

[uneven ermine]

i thought the char WAS LEGIT the end boss

LMAO

[vivid flare]

Nope, just a miniboss like 🐀

[tidal moss]

LMAO nah it's a miniboss

[uneven ermine]

THAT IS NOT A MINI BOSS BRO

THAT MF RAILED ME SO HARD EARLIER

[tidal moss]

welcome to hades 2

[uneven ermine]

eris dead

[tidal moss]

that was quick

[uneven ermine]

||eris legit easier than the stupid fish||

[vivid flare]

||Don't worry, she'll get better||

[tidal moss]

yeah literally

[uneven ermine]

also, i have a question

i am SPAM buying the green things now for cards with bones, is that ok?

[vivid flare]

Until ||you get clipped for 50 by one of her grenades||

[uneven ermine]

Or should i be spending it on other

[vivid flare]

I personally have a constant stream of them via Charon Prime

[tidal moss]

yes that's perfect

[uneven ermine]

idk what charon prime is

is that the cauldrons?

[vivid flare]

Obol Points deliveries

[uneven ermine]

iirc called charon

[tidal moss]

I have over a hunderd is it just worth it to order psyche

[uneven ermine]

o

[vivid flare]

Because it's Amazon Prime but Charon

[uneven ermine]

🤣

good one lmao

i made some decent progress ! i'm at 22 cards now

[tidal moss]

I used it to farm so much nmare in ea that i have over 40 now

[uneven ermine]

gonna log off now, ggs was fun & chatting !

not cards, grasp lo

[wintry summit]

Why is the sirens beating my arse so bad?

[tidal moss]

cause ur bad (with love and respect)

[tidal moss]

Return soon

[uneven ermine]

i be back tomorrow!

night night

[tidal moss]

So mote it be

[vivid flare]

||Kill the drummer first||

[wintry summit]

I feel like I hit them for like 5 minutes and their health is like a quarter of the way down

[tidal moss]

You need more upgrades/better build

[wintry summit]

Hitting them with a pool noodle

[vivid flare]

Well, it helps to know what Boons work with what weapons

[tidal moss]

what weapon? i have a clip of me beating them in like 30s if u want the build

[wintry summit]

I asked that earlier people didn’t really help me out

[vivid flare]

Did you specify the weapon, or just ask in general? Because it's not a case of "this works everywhere"

[wintry summit]

In general

[vivid flare]

That'd be why

[tidal moss]

yeah advice like that is aspect specific

[wintry summit]

How much orange juice do I gotta give people to max them out wasn’t it like 10 in hades 1?

[tidal moss]

i varies but 6-7 nectar and 2-4 ambrosia

[wintry summit]

Ahh ok thank you

[broken cliff]

aspect stuff ||so should I talk with moros on the cross roads for it's secret aspect on it's someone else on a run||

[wintry summit]

The fire lady with the sickle and dagger is pretty good

[broken cliff]

I KEEP SPENDING MY ||DARKNESS|| WRONGLY BRO RAAAAAAAAH

[restive swallow]

rah rah rasputin
or something

[restive swallow]

Hestia my goat

[tidal moss]

yes

[broken cliff]

yes to which

[tidal moss]

Groal

[broken cliff]

just the great

[scenic arrow]

moros

[broken cliff]

so on the crossroads?

[tidal moss]

yes

[broken cliff]

great

[scenic arrow]

can't be the first one you get

[broken cliff]

i got ||shiva|| but didn't buy it yet

[scenic arrow]

ok yeah you should be good

[broken cliff]

||spent my two darkness wrongly two times in a row when switching aspects||

[tidal moss]

You mean nmare?

[broken cliff]

eyah that

[scenic arrow]

just max out every aspect in the game

[tidal moss]

i did that last year

and now i have 50 nmare

[scenic arrow]

how?
the hidden aspects got added in june

[tidal moss]

I grinded the stuffing outta nmare way before they dropped, and same update they added more nmare to testaments, of which id mostly done alr

[scenic arrow]

yeah but how did you max out the unreleased hidden aspects last year
secret sgg employee

[tidal moss]

oh i meant i got all the nmare for it last year, i maxxed the aspects day 1 mb

[wanton plover]

Hi no spoilers as much pls but || I just "killed typhon" and did the dissolution of time incantation and about to head down to face chronos, after that, is that it like am I almost finished or I'm still halfway? ||

Cause I dont want this game to end yet XD

[lean terrace]

i cant seem to unlock "attending a faithful beast" in the cauldron, its just doesnt show up. i already have 3 familiars so idk whats the problem

[tidal moss]

you're almost done but you can do the epilogue after that

[wanton plover]

Is the epilogue also big?

storywise?

[fervent holly]

How exactly does scorch work? I am a bit confused

[weary tartan]

||def more than half probably, epilogue is long because you gotta do lots of runs getting max relationships with everyone||

[wary night]

when you apply scorch to an enemy, it gets added to a kind of “bank” of scorch damage, that can stack up to 999 total.
every second, up to 100 scorch from that bank is consumed and turned into damage

one boon makes scorch tick faster, and it’s 100 damage at baseline (and can benefit from damage buffs), but that’s how it works at baseline

some duo boons also change how it works quite a bit

[fervent holly]

so when the boon says "special does 50 scorch dmg" each tick of my special adds 50 to the "bank"?

[wary night]

yes!

and then if an enemy has 500 scorch on it it’ll keep taking damage for 5 seconds even if you don’t hit it, for instance

[weary tartan]

and this is all indicated with the orange part of an enemies health bar, and the orange damage text that repeatedly ticks down

[wary night]

scorch is honestly very good, it doesn’t sound op on paper but it can go crazy

[fervent holly]

yea i just beat my first run with it, all while not fully understanding it

thx for the info

[trail cairn]

what's a good early build?

[torpid vessel]

Daggers with poseidon attack

very easy one to do

Cast builds are also very good, you just take Zeus Cast + all the stuff Apollo adds to casts, then you get their Duo that adds even more to it

[wary night]

is there a weapon that feels comfortable to you?
imo hestia and poseidon are both pretty easy and strong to get going. zeus too

[torpid vessel]

Zeus is without a doubt the best god in the game imo

highly recomend just taking everything he has

[wary night]

also freeze is incredibly safe, so if you’re struggling to stay alive it’s always a great thing to grab

[slim spear]

I, a member of the Anti-Zeus gang, am rather disappointed.

[cosmic burrow]

Are bones best spent on Star Dust? Since we’ve “infinite” ways of getting other materials

[torpid vessel]

you can also get infinite stardust through various sources :P

[trail cairn]

blades > skull > flames > staff >>>>>> axe

[cosmic burrow]

Intriguing.
Now im not sure whether or not to buy Star Dust or Nightmare, ha

[scenic arrow]

nightmare is worth it imo, but you also need a bunch of bones for gift items

[torpid vessel]

small tip for the axe, ||learn to use the Special as a "finishing" move against enemies with very low health. You can cancel the attack directly into it so rather than spending all the time doing a huge swing, just tap them with the special and dash out||

[scenic arrow]

many weapons benefit from comboing attack and special. Using 2 buttons means if you have boons on both, you benefit from both
ie: one is freezing, the other is big damage
or one is hitch, the other is scorch
or one is blitz, the other is also big damage

[wary night]

for blades def go with hestia or poseidon on attack I’d say, take advantage of that fast attack speed! zeus on special is also nice if you weave it in often

and static shock is good for daggers too

[torpid vessel]

also, Trick Knives, best hammer for the blades if you can get it

[wary night]

tbh you can make most things work tho. when I was doing 40 fear runs for practice I cheesed blades with heph special and freeze attack, iirc
(altho that’s just heph blasts being heph blasts)

[trail cairn]

thanks a lot

[signal thunder]

guys is Dionisio in the game? i remember to see him in the very very early access

[indigo quest]

What's a good standard arcana setup?

[wary night]

||yes, but not as a regular god. he's an NPC you have a chance to meet in a late game area, similar to Arachne||
||he wasn't added in VERY early access, but he was in EA yes||

[wary night]

do you have all the cards and max grasp unlocked yet? or nah

[indigo quest]

Max grasp and almost all upgraded

[signal thunder]

Oh, okay thanks

[wary night]

I linked mine earlier if you want a reference ^^ but it's w full grasp

[scenic arrow]

||he wasn't added until march||

[wary night]

I swap furies for huntress/death for certain weapons, and things look different if I'm playing strength, but otherwise that's my default for general use. at high fear Wayward Son isn't necessarily worth it, but. 🤷

[indigo quest]

I've only used Strength so far and I love it. Gonna be weird using any death defiances

[signal thunder]

|| Seriously? I don't know, maybe I was confused by the trailer that he appears, I was wrong||

[wary night]

keep using strength if you like it! I mainly switched to DDs since I started trying to play high fear more often, + ||rivals|| fights are scary lol

[scenic arrow]

||no I lied sorry he wasn't in the game until september I think||

[wary night]

death => strength and wayward son => swift runner is a decent set up with minimal changes, if you want no DDs, since it still gives you a row of 5 for the card I forget the name of... divinity?
use whatever works for you though! I mostly played with strength until the last pre-1.0 update, and if you rly like artificer or messenger then by all means use them. imo the reroll corner + either death or strength + origination are the main important ones, + sorceress like 90% of the time

[tidal moss]

Nah the reroll corner gets outclassed by the ||fate's whim|| keepsake, but yeah before they're unlocked definitely more important

[wanton plover]

Is the epilogue as long as the main game, I wanna play as long as I cann

[tidal moss]

Nah it's alot shorter

[wary night]

ah, I've only done a couple post-ending runs so wouldn't know about that keepsake yet lol

for the purposes of this channel at least I'd say reroll corner is good for new players, tho

[tidal moss]

It's basically the meta for any type of run atm, including max fear

[tidal moss]

For sure

[wanton plover]

but longer than hades 1 epilogue?

[tidal moss]

Couldn't tell you, it's been years since I did the h1 epilogue

[polar laurel]

As someone with like 140 hours in this game I swear there's plenty of stuff to do, even if you've done most of the important dialogue. There's so many weapons, so many keepsakes, so much stuff

[wary night]

if you like the raw gameplay yeah there's absurdly much to do. there are also just more characters and content total.
I think the length of the epilogue will somewhat depend on how much side/friendship content you did prior to the ending, if it works anything like hades 1? but I haven't done many post ending runs yet so idk for sure

[jagged garnet]

Apollo! Appear more than once per run and my life is yours!

[tidal moss]

I'm nearly 350 runs in and I still have things I want to do

[queen pendant]

How do I get || entropy I acquire hades weapon now what do I do ||

[scenic arrow]

win on the surface like 5 times

[queen pendant]

Ok thanks

[scenic arrow]

yeah you need to fully beat surface, then do last run in underworld

[queen pendant]

Ok so five times surface and one time Erebus

[scenic arrow]

it might be more on surface, idk. roughly around that

[modest inlet]

So|| Kronos just kidnapped hekate || and since then Mel hasn’t said a word the whole night, girl is PISSED

[dull kite]

evil eye vs knuckle bones ?

[trail blade]

Bones.

Evil Eye is really specific and requires your previous death, it can even be on an enemy you can't encounter (like being on Scylla when you're on ||Surface||).

[dull kite]

so is knuckle bones straight up more efficient against bosses?

assuming evil eye is active against the final boss too

[scenic arrow]

evil eye is also % boost, but you likely already have lots of those already

remember, %boost is additive

[trail blade]

Bones at max rank deals 15% of the boss' health instantly and unconditionally. Evil Eye gives you 30% extra damage but is kind of diminishing and specific.

Keep in mind: if you die on the way to a trash mob, you can't use Eye for your next run against that boss.

[scenic arrow]

If you have strength, origination, and furies active, you have +100%, meaning you're at 200%
eye gives you 30%, so you're at 230% now.
This is just a 15% upgrade.
And that's without assuming other % boosts

[modest inlet]

Huh, that ending ||is… not what I was expecting ||

[scenic arrow]

head over to #h2-story-discussion, you can vent

[modest inlet]

Ah, gotcha

[vivid flare]

Also worth noting that Bones is a damage reduction source, which is a lot less common than damage ups

Also, does Evil Eye even track the routes individually, or is it still only the thing that killed you last?

[trail blade]

Bones' damage reduction is also rank agnostic. So even at rank 1 it's good for defense.

[trail blade]

AFAIK it's just only what killed you last. It shows Hecate when I use it on SF lol.

[indigo quest]

Who is the bottom left keepsake?

[vivid flare]

Should be Arachne?

[tidal moss]

Yes it is arachne

[vivid flare]

The bottom row is all NPC room keepsakes

And Chaos, which I guess is kinda an NPC room

[indigo quest]

Holy crap I beat the game and never gave her a nectar lol

[solid hinge]

Question:
Boon - Racing Thoughts - Your Omega Moves are faster

What does this exactly give? Make the charge time faster, or like the actual projectiles?

[trail blade]

Charge time.

Nimble Limbs (Your Attack, Special, and Cast are X% faster) affects animation speed, Racing Thoughts affects Omega channeling speed, and Winner's Circle (You channel your Omega Cast faster and your Casts expire faster) speeds up how fast your omega cast channels and also makes your casts (both normal and omega) disappear in half the duration (or less) of normal casts.

[stiff hawk]

does reducing duration of cast keep its total damage intact or reduced?

[silk mason]

Depends on the cast

Not every cast does DPS damage, so Winner's Circle pairs well with ones like Apollo, Heph, Ares, etc. But Zeus lighting per 1 sec in a cast that lasts half as long = less damage

It's still super useful for omega casts imo regardless

[stiff hawk]

does Dancing Knifes buff Omega special? Description says "specials" plural, so it does, right?

[silk mason]

Correct

[stiff hawk]

a have hephaestus glow on special, hestia epic scortch on attack sounds like a good idea right? (I have finally picked up arcana that gives damage buff for 2 curses on the enemy)

[scenic arrow]

scorch is very short term

ideally you're spamming thaf button

[stiff hawk]

Chain Reaction duo boon, "If you use your blast effects just after they recharge, they fire 2 times".

Is there any way to tell when blast effect has recharged? Some sound que or something? Its hard to eyeball 12 seconds passing by in combat, you know

getting double blast sounds quite appealing, but the other choice is a solid Grand Caldera, works every time and buffs blast AoE significantly

God I love Hephaestus

[cosmic burrow]

I think your weapon visually blinks red in your hand when blast is ready.

[stiff hawk]

like, on the character model?

[tidal moss]

Yes

[stiff hawk]

oh yes you are right! Thank so much

Also quick question about moon hex buffs, those "+2% damage after use" and so on. I imagine they do not stack cause it would be broken otherwise, but do they expire or are they per encounter?

[serene mist]

guys does hades 2 have any build like ME from hades 1?

[cosmic burrow]

They do stack per encounter; that much is written when you select that buff

[dark minnow]

lmao didnt know ||aries is here , is his boons any good ?||

[tidal moss]

Not really

[silk mason]

||Plasma's not great without serious investment, otherwise fine to good||

[cosmic burrow]

Genuinely, every boon is great if you stack multiples of them.
For his in particular, I ran my first 16 fear with life steal successfully. I wouldn’t discount anyone’s boon potential

[frigid tapir]

What are the top 3 recommended weapons/aspects for beginners? Been using mel blades since launch and want to try something new and simple

[stiff hawk]

divine dash lets goooooooo hades 1 time. damn this build comes nicely

[stiff hawk]

wait, really? I will spam my moon beam even more now

[stiff hawk]

and it is a shame

[stiff hawk]

IMO its spear, blade & sickle and axe. axe is preferable with a certain aspect that turns it into scythe, it gives a big speed buff

I also like the semi-guided munitions pack, but its attack is soso (or its my skill issue)

[eager wraith]

Even more than H1 id say every single weapon is extremely viable so it's hard to put a top 3, but when turning up the difficulty Axe and Torches demand a bit more skill in my experience (they delay your fast escapes, requiring more foresight in evading)

[stiff hawk]

also its not just about weapon, hammer upgrades are very important and can completely change how weapon feels and plays

[eager wraith]

They do great damage though, so it's very workable with the right kinda strategies. Can't get killed if you're killing quick enough

[frigid tapir]

Whats spear? Is that thr witch staff?

[eager wraith]

Yeah some call it a spear ig

[frigid tapir]

Which are the better sisterblade aspects?

Btw do chaos runs help contribute to prophecy completion?

[polar laurel]

Hidden is the most well liked blade aspect

[eager wraith]

The first 3 are fairly balanced honestly, I haven't used Pan in a while but I remember it being pretty high value with on-hit boons like Poseidon/Hestia

[polar laurel]

Beyond that probably ||pan||? It was nerfed a while back so it's not broken but honestly its current form is underappreciated

[eager wraith]

Artemis can also be strong but is sliiightly harder to use

[polar laurel]

I'm a hater of ||artemis||, I just don't like its gimmick. Mel blades are somewhat cool tho

[stiff hawk]

its a spear-staff

[eager wraith]

Can't go wrong with upgraded Mel either

[polar laurel]

Knives are my least favorite weapon but only slightly

They're still alr

[stiff hawk]

knives are great. particularly for new players imo.
Very easy to use

[polar laurel]

True

[frigid tapir]

I have mel V blades, so im looking for something new to try. Perhaps pan next? I havent unlocked hidden blades

[polar laurel]

Imo torches is the best base weapon

[stiff hawk]

torches? ugh

[eager wraith]

Pan is a different style that's easy to get into! id give it a shot

[stiff hawk]

anything but torches

[polar laurel]

Artemis is kinda just silly sidegrade to Mel, pan is unique

[frigid tapir]

U have to make sure u cast on enemies?

[polar laurel]

It's a 50/50 split between super fun aspect and mediocre

[eager wraith]

To get the specials to seek the enemies yes, pretty good value for the effort though!

[polar laurel]

However which 2 are which changes between people

[frigid tapir]

Btw whats the base effect of casts lol i nvr quite understood

[stiff hawk]

My Mel is a badass witch, torches are for boomers like Hecate

[polar laurel]

Regular enemies can't move, elites can't leave the circle... at least I'm pretty sure thats how it works

[eager wraith]

Casts are your space control tool, they stop lightweight fast enemies from entering/exiting the ring allowing you to trap them or escape without being chased

[polar laurel]

Clearly someone hasn't shredded with moros

[eager wraith]

Heavier enemies aren't as easily stuck, but they do get slowed

[stiff hawk]

think about sirens fight ending, lots of small fish spamming at you, cast helps solve this
and punching zombies in fields of mourning and other guys who likes to rush you. Talos

[eager wraith]

So in the case of blades for example, you can punish an enemy chasing you by stopping them with a cast, dashing away, then using your ranged special

[stiff hawk]

cast allows for kiting. superimportant to spam it

[polar laurel]

Casts are pretty much useless without a boon, but with a boon they become crazy good and basically free damage and status effects

[frigid tapir]

I see - i nvr knew it stopped enemies entering the circle.

When i trap them with cast, are they immobilised but still can attack, or are they stunned entirely?

[stiff hawk]

yes I haven't

[polar laurel]

Hera cast plus the thing that makes your casts expire faster is utterly bonkers

[polar laurel]

You should try it sometime 🔥

[eager wraith]

Just affects their movement, freeze does stop them attacking though if you want that effect

[stiff hawk]

nah, I don't like torches, have plenty of other weapons to have fun with. maybe later, when I would need some more nightmare from vows runs

[polar laurel]

Other weapons are cool... hades 2 overall just has great weapons (tho some don't come into their own until they're mostly fully upgraded)

I'd say almost every single aspect in h2 is better than almost every single aspect in h1

There's a few notable exceptions in h1... mostly the ones that mess with your cast, plus Zeus and hades aspects are quite cool. But otherwise hades 2 sweeps

[eager wraith]

Torches I think have the most learning curve, bit of a sleeper hit for many

Fun to get down though the damage can get crazy fast

[polar laurel]

Like the fact that Arthur is a hidden aspect but is basically just Mel axe is representative of h2 making the cool stuff in h1 the baseline

[dark minnow]

Man I adore moros keepsake, 10 seconds of free damage + revive if managed to kill

it grown on me so much I dont think I can replace it

[stiff hawk]

what I really don't like in H1 weapon upgrades is the slog of getting titan blood, its supergrindy, ass-slow and very much not early game

[wary night]

it's VERY good. and it somehow used to be even better during early access
(specifically you could use it with ||the strength arcana card, and get a damage bonus and damage reduction, AND back then strength reduced damage taken to armor too. wild times||)

[stiff hawk]

If you are getting killed before the big boss, chances are the battle isn't going your way anyway. Isn't it a sort of a symptom of build not coming together.? For the later areas I would much rather prefer something that helps build to come together, or evil eye if I struggle with big boss. Or roll the dice with bonus random hammer

[main pasture]

what does pinging on won run does?

[eager wraith]

majorly agree, titan blood was okay in concept but in execution it basically locked most of the game's variety behind the ability to beat the run completely consistently, and further bottlenecked the resource with time spent for those who were already able to do so
H2 still has you climb heat, but the fear levels go up faster which is more engaging, there's more than one way to earn nightmare, and Mel aspects don't require any nightmare, all really nice ways to improve the pace of the game for mostly all players

[wary night]

against non-boss rooms it can save your DDs and reset your health to a baseline, which is very powerful.
against bosses, you get 10 seconds of invulnerability to deal as much damage as possible without caring about dodging.
both are very good, I slept on pin but then saw some extremely good players using it and realized it's excellent. evil eye is okay but there are so many sources of % damage in the game that it usually doesn't do all that much.
for early areas tho I'd never take pin, yeah

[stiff hawk]

speaking of things that grew on me, moon ray I thought is useless, but now I see its power and utility.
If upgrades are stacked such that I don't get to choose trash endline "upgrades" like beam standing in one place and shooting in a straight line, or beam shooting 3 rays in useless pattern while making hex much less spammable.

I've maxed out all armor buffs, having a +40 armor buff at the press of the button on top of some solid damage is useful all the way until the very top area, where guys just hit insanely hard

[wary night]

my go-to when I don't have some other keepsake in mind is:
god keepsake region 1
second god keepsake or phial region 2
hammer region 3 (the buff lasts until the end of the run if you take it here)
pin region 4

altho the new 1.0 keepsakes aren't unlocked on my save file yet so that may change

[frigid tapir]

What is the hammer keepsake? Why does it last 2 regions?

[stiff hawk]

I usually pick selene keepsake for second region, +5 upgrades for moon hex is what allows me to upgrade everything for my moon hex, given that its a full moon hex rather easily

[wary night]

you get it from an NPC you meet in the... mid game? ||icarus||
it gives you a random daedalus hammer effect which only lasts a certain number of rooms.
when the keepsake is fully leveled up, it lasts enough rooms to stay for the rest of your run if you take it in the third region

[stiff hawk]

spoiler guys, daedalus had a son

[wary night]

it's quite nice. you may roll a hammer upgrade which doesn't help you, but rarely one that hurts, and getting a good one is very very strong

[wary night]

if people haven't met that character they may not know he exists in the game at all yet

[stiff hawk]

I wasn't that lucky with avoiding hammer upgrades that break my build)

I am just saying. Daedalus had a lot of hammers, but he also had a son, if you know you know

[pseudo sluice]

How to get the broker to sell n-mares? I've already got nightmares from doing fear runs and he's still not selling them

[stiff hawk]

how many nightmares have you got? Maybe its not enough

[cosmic burrow]

Post game keepsake question ||Do infernal contracts only appear in the underworld for that fight? Wondering if it’s possible to get them going towards O||

[pseudo sluice]

I keep getting 1 and just using it to level my aspects right away instead of letting them stack up, was I supposed to let them stack up?

[cosmic burrow]

No. You’re probably not yet far enough. Have you seen the credits roll?

[pseudo sluice]

Nope! Not yet. I've mostly been spamming Surface runs instead of focusing on Underworld runs.

[cosmic burrow]

The game will nudge you towards the objective. It’ll come.
I just finished my first fear 16 and ||noticed nightmare can be ordered for five loyalty cards||

[candid turret]

on what should i use my 1000 bones from defeating Cronos for the first time? my grasp is at 22, should i go all in on that?

[clear bramble]

Grasp is good, i didn’t know what else to go for at that time

It’ll be really helpful for later runs so having it maxed early will be nice

[ebon bloom]

Should i focus to beat Underworld or Surface for Progression? Beat the Underworld about 5 Times an Olympus 1 Time.

[frigid tapir]

How do u get the upgrade to auto-collect resources?

[scenic arrow]

catch all fish

[serene mist]

Is haelians last god tier list still followed after v1.0 launch?

[wise locust]

Largely, there was very little in the way of changes to boons

[serene mist]

Is there any other guides like PDFs/yt vids which might help me realize which boons are applicable to attack/sp/casts etc according to a weapon?

[wise locust]

Applicable in what sense?

which ones are sensible for each slot, or which ones even go in a particular slot?

[silk knoll]

hello how many times do i need to go down and beat the man himself?

[scenic arrow]

like 6

[silk knoll]

no spoilers pls

[wise locust]

To accomplish what?

[silk knoll]

Till i need to go up I'm at five

[wise locust]

you can go up at any time

the game will tell you that you don't need to focus that path any more, if that happens

[silk knoll]

Oh okay thank you for the help. Have a good day/night!

[wise locust]

The game is based around not punishing you for doing what you, the player, want to do

[scenic arrow]

You should try to alternate going up and down for your own sanity

[stiff hawk]

alternating is the best way

up and down and up and down and up and down

[serene mist]

Smh that tells me which gods I gotta look for while using a particular weapon and if I need them for cast/attack/sp etc

[silk knoll]

is there a safe place to ask questions that could potentially be spoily

[wise locust]

Kinda. Basically there's three broad ideas

If your weapon attacks fast, pick boons that apply a fixed amount of benefit per hit, like Posideon and hestia

if it hits hard then go for big +% bonuses

if it hits a lot of enemies for any amount of damage, look to ||Hera|| or Zeus

and I guess, if you don't that button much, ask for Hephestus

but these are very loose ideas

[serene mist]

That's actually gonna help me a lot TYSM

[wise locust]

Obviously check the move in question

[serene mist]

Nah it's perfect gives an opportunity to figure out and enjoy dw

[wise locust]

the axe attack hits hard, but the special is 20x3 quite quickly

but the axe Omega special is big hits

most duo boons require you just to have a core boon from both gods in question, so try to mix up what goes into those core 5 slots

[stiff hawk]

such a guide would be quite lengthy. We have 6 weapons, each has 3 aspects, plus over a hundred boons, plus all those arcana cards.

Have you tried to figure out and try synergies?

Its like... okay I have these daggers, attack is very fast, but not hard hitting and low range, omega attack is useful, but not always.

special is good AoE and good range, omega special charges very fast and is spammable, sounds good.
Oh, what's that, hephaestus special boon that applies +500 damage every X seconds, I wonder what would happen if I use it? Oh wow, it just deleted half a screen of enemies in one-shot, lets investigate this further. Yay, there it is hammer upgrade. bonus to daggers special power and whatsnot, and it applies to omega attacks, lets pick this one, etc etc

[silk knoll]

I got power surge with double hit, this is gonna be a fun run lol.

[wise locust]

do you have mirrored thasher?

[silk knoll]

Boon or is that a card?

[wise locust]

Hammer upgrade for staff

[silk knoll]

yes

[wise locust]

awesome, have fun

[silk knoll]

I'm horrible with the names I just go by the picture lol 😂

[wise locust]

I'm horrible with the pictures

boon ones I'm better with

[silk knoll]

and then right after i just got Flutter Flourish for Aphro.

My luck is up today it seems lol.

[stiff hawk]

sacrifice it

[main pasture]

any tip on ||prometheus|| flame waves? i don't have good memory

[wise locust]

Yes, don't try to remember where they are, just remember one safe spot to stand in each time

[stiff hawk]

say it out loud. "center, top, center, bottom". repeat it out loud when it starts to hit

[wise locust]

Also the same lane will never be safe more than twice in a row

[modern dust]

How many times do I need to defeat ||surface|| before I can || finish the incantaton for killing Chronos forever||? So far 5 times underworld 1 time ||surface||

[shy zephyr]

you have to beat ||the surface 5 times total|| for the credits

[wise locust]

4 more iirc

it's pretty obvious when it happens

[modern dust]

Okay good to know, so for now I will stop doing underword and try to focus on surface

[fickle carbon]

But surface has eris...

Ough

Ok no wait hold up

Does the double damage on eris go away after a while?

Cuz she said something like that during the last time I fought her

[shy zephyr]

it does

[fickle carbon]

Omg

They should really make that clearer I thought it was a damage race and I had to finish th fight as quickly as possible

[wise locust]

Yes, but also just dash through her and she can't do anything

[fickle carbon]

Noted

She's scary

[frail grail]

does buo boon of hera work retroactively?

if i take a new boon, does it get +levels?

[wise locust]

Queen's ransom?

One time thing

[frail grail]

thanks for clarifying

[silk knoll]

It went well. Tbh i get to close with staff so it works for me lol

That was my fastest run at 18 min!

[pseudo sluice]

LOL I just realized you can ditch ||Chronos|| when he shows up and wants to talk to you after beating ||Hecate, he even notices that you avoid him and says "GO ON THEN"||

[wise locust]

lol

[barren bronze]

I just beat the cerberus, how far am i from beating the game

[elfin granite]

Very.

[fickle carbon]

One more region+boss to finish one run, but you gotta do a bunch of runs to actually achieve the ending

[indigo quest]

Torches absolutely mega damage

[leaden pewter]

im not sure if this counts as spoiler but ill play it safe. does ||moros pin|| disable ||strength||?

[ornate pulsar]

It do

[leaden pewter]

damn

[ornate pulsar]

So does the ||cat||

[barren bronze]

What

[leaden pewter]

yeah i knew that. im assuming ||athena|| too and i know ||luckier tooth|| also disables it

[barren bronze]

How many regions are there

[ornate pulsar]

Only if you pickup ||prime magic for dd from Athena|| otherwise playing ||strength lets you consistently use Athena’s keepsake||

[leaden pewter]

yeah i meant ||athenas DD boon||

[leaden pewter]

||4 below and 4 above||

[ornate pulsar]

I’ve seen this as a strat for high fear lol (50+)

[barren bronze]

Isnt that less than hades 1?

[leaden pewter]

that boon with ||strenght||?? i thought they would just ditch that card and then run normal DDs

[ornate pulsar]

||since it refreshes every room, if you pick it up in zone 1 it effectively becomes stubborn defiance from Hades 1, which was more often used on high heat||

[leaden pewter]

no in hades 1 you had tartarus, asphodel, elysium and the end area (i forget thge name). in hades 2 you have ||erebus, oceanus, fields of mourning and tartarus when going down and city of ephyra, rift of thessaly, the 3rd one i forget the name and the summit going up||

[ornate pulsar]

||except better because if you lose it in a room you get strength bonuses to try and survive||

[leaden pewter]

ahh i see

[ornate pulsar]

||DDs from arcana are preferred i think tho because of the other athena boon that replenishes all, + you can get echo replenish+dd from cat. I had a 50Fear run that I won but lost 13DDs total||

[leaden pewter]

jesus christ

im nowhere near that level rn but that seems crazy

[ornate pulsar]

Idk how i managed to get and lose so many

Old strength used to outclass the 3DDs because it was 50% damage resistance instead but it got nerfed couple patches ago 🙁

I got my first 50 clear with that old strength card, take 50% less, deal 25% more

Now it’s ||measly 40/20||

Kinda wish they buffed base DDs instead of nerfing strength tbh

[serene mist]

Need advice regarding sister blades, how to avoid getting hit during close combat and boons to look out for

[turbid basin]

Coming from a currently at Scylla noob, don't all-in targets that still have a yellow hp bar.

And also, expect to dodge way more than when using the staff at range.

[shy trench]

The blades hit fast, so Poseidon and Hestia are good main attack boons. You can also get Zeus’ passive chain lightning effect that deals damage on hit, to multiple targets.

You can use Demeter on second or Cast to freeze the opponents before jumping in. A well applied Cast can be very good even without Demeter.

Some monsters are best dealt with at a distance, like banshees and the spinning ghosts.

[serene mist]

How does apollo's attack do on the blades btw? As for the cast, I'll keep that in my mind and yeah the banshees are a huge problem along with the projectile mobs.

Just to be sure my attacks don't go through the projectile or do they? I always seem to get hit even though I'm swinging

[sand void]

getting boons that make enemies projectiles go slower (hermes and ||medea||) helps and also going to the very bottom of the screen

[shy trench]

Once the projectile is fired, it will hit you unless you move. Most monsters except bosses will be staggered on-hit if they don’t have armour, a yellow bar like Cloudy said.

Regarding Apollo - his attacks are percentage based, so not that good on the blades. You’ll get some more reach, but not enough. Towards the end of the run, your damage will also be pretty low.

I pretty much only use Apollo for the Running buff, mana gain, and the passives like % chance to attack twice. His attacks just don’t compare to the others.

They will hit hard enough in the beginning, but after the second boss, it won’t be enough in my experience

[cyan hornet]

not sure if this has been asked before, but just wondering how can i make ||Gale|| my familiar? I've interacted with it several times but it never gave me any prompt to make it a familiar

[broken hound]

is there a better way i can control the timing of the chaos keepsake so it doesn't change before i get to the next cabinet? i started the night with the +4 to all elements boon and took hermes' +25% dmg, but the keepsake changed before getting to the boss room 🙁

[fickle carbon]

is there any real reason to pick up eris's trash? without spoilers

im hoping once you get 999 you get a keepsake that lets you oneshot her or something lol

[wise locust]

there's a single incantation for it, and also kudos

[fickle carbon]

so i can sell em no problem?

or wait does the incantation use them

[wise locust]

The game has a marker on resources that you might need later when you're on the selling page of the broker

[fickle carbon]

oh that's the lil cauldron?

[wise locust]

there's a tooltip that tells you

[thick ice]

How many ||chaos trials|| are there?

[wise locust]

quite a few, keep unlocking stuff

[tidal moss]

Around 30 from memory

[trail cairn]

what's a good build for the flames?

[tidal moss]

Which aspect

[trail cairn]

base

[tidal moss]

Pos attack zeus special

Stack zeus boons or go for pos legendary

[uneven ermine]

ALOOOOO ME BACK

Hiii luthien! time to blast again :D

[tidal moss]

YOOOOOOO

[tidal moss]

The gang's all here

[trail cairn]

it's always Poseidon attack

[frigid tapir]

hwo to unlock hidden aspects?

[lapis cloak]

|| you need to have at least one aspect maxed out for that weapon then talk to a specific character depeding on the weapon that will give you the waking phrase ||

[frigid tapir]

who do i talk to for the skull?

[lapis cloak]

|| medea iirc||

[hot cove]

what are testaments for? and what can i get out of it?

[wise locust]

Makes the game harder, gives you nightmare

[lapis cloak]

gives you nightmare, used to upgrade the weapons

[hot cove]

so it depends how much nightmare i get based on how difficult it is?

[wise locust]

Sorta

There's bounties where beating a boss at a certain fear level with a certain weapon gives you exactly one nightmare

but the fear requirements keep increasing

[lapis cloak]

you always get 1 nightmare by killing the boss it says you need to kill (you dont need to finish the run) then you need to increase the fear level to get more nightmare for that weapon on another boss

[uneven ermine]

||how do weapon aspects work, if you upgrade ALL of em u get all of em in one?||

[tidal moss]

No

[uneven ermine]

||like i have aspect of melnioe, charon, thanatos i can unlock if i buy all of em do i get all?||

So i should only get the one i want?