#h2-for-new-players

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vivid flare
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That being said, all your final boss drops are getting auto-converted to Prestige so you can't just immediately finish the game when it releases

worldly topaz
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technically no, but your save will be modified like said above, with all final boss resources deleted

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i would recommend waiting just because that way you have everything fresh in your mind and there is no disconnect from winning the 1st time with the post 1.0 stuff though

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cause currently you can win like 1000 times and the first win post 1.0 will be like the "first time"

hollow mirage
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Alr thanks
Im still at 10 heat on hades 1 so im gonna take my time to really 100% everything possible

wise tartan
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wait so hades 2 is coming to switch 1 right?

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just to confirm because I tend to be a little stupid

glass moon
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Is jades 2 coming to switch on release, or later?

signal bolt
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i believe it should be on switch with 1.0

worldly topaz
glass moon
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Gotcha, thx

primal trench
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Cast was super important in the first game

shy zephyr
echo wing
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Saw something in the update notes about something resetting on the full release in exchange for a currency
wondering if there's any benefit to start playing the game now to benefit from that later or if it's best to start fresh when full release comes?

shy zephyr
echo wing
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ah, fair

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then i will return to my hole of waiting

shy zephyr
echo wing
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can't wait to return to greece on 1.0

vast oasis
weary tartan
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I mean spoilers for sure but ||first region of the surface lol||

scenic arrow
unreal halo
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hi, i have a bit off a weird question. i havent played hades 2 since the very first (and shortly, second) patch of early access. i told myself i would wait until full release to pick it back up, but ive been itching to play so badly that i installed it. but i just saw somewhere that they just released the last patch before 1.0 release. is the game mostly completed? im wondering if i should wait until 1.0 for a full experience or if its okay because the current state of the game is essentially the full experience

fierce bobcat
# unreal halo hi, i have a bit off a weird question. i havent played hades 2 since the very fi...

hey!
so we're expecting a full release to come out almost any day now! it can happen next week, or in september, or october etc.

but the game is pretty much 99% complete atp. All of the gameplay stuff is pretty much fully finished, the biggest main thing we're missing is the conclusion/ending to the story.

so you could theoretically start playing right now and it shouldn't mess with your experience as a new player at all

unreal halo
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thanks a lot, exactly what i wanted to hear

fierce bobcat
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if you played Hades 1, think of it as having EVERYTHING in the game be available except for ||going to the surface and meeting persephone and doing the ending stuff basically||

fierce bobcat
unreal halo
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also idk if im the only person in existence to have this take but i really miss the original dash that had a delay 😭

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idk why it just felt so nice and differentiated hades 2 mc from zagreus

fierce bobcat
unreal halo
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okay, starting my first run happyThumb thanks again

fierce bobcat
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I love how it's very fresh to play overall

have fun~

wanton plover
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Hi, I'm also been trying to hold off playing the game but since you basically says ot's 99% complete, I just wanna ask, is there a different dialogue each time you meet and fight the final boss?

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like do they acknowledge that you already beaten them etc.

fierce bobcat
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there are lots of side stories you can engage in as well

wanton plover
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are the romance option also complete? like can you complete a romance in the current patch?

split silo
fierce bobcat
split silo
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i didn’t even notice it was you who sent the messagezaglol

wanton plover
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Ahhh, I'l try to hold off until Oct, I think I'll try Pyre first. Maybe it will get released by then

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Silksong or Hades 2 first? what do you guys think XD

fierce bobcat
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Hades 2 90% sure

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silksong doesnt exist unfortunately 😔

wanton plover
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Do you think it will release this Oct?

fierce bobcat
wanton plover
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There's not a single day that I haven't thought about Hades 2 XD

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since Hades 1 was my first ever game that I bought with my own money and I loved every bit of it

fierce bobcat
# wanton plover https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gi...
  • well the achievements were accidentally published a couple weeks ago which seems to have been a mistake, but it also suggests that these achievements are ready and just waiting to be released properly
  • also the gameplay side of things is like 99% finished atp and they would take 3 months between upates to add a lot of gameplay stuff!! but this time it's just some story bits that they need to add which presumably takes a lot less work, so it's more so that they just want to wrap things up
  • especially since they explicitly stated that the last patch 11 is 100% the last patch, so we're not getting any more balance changes until the 1.0.. and if that's not happening, what else are they going to spend time on if not just releasing the game, right?
  • it's also very likely they've been working on a lot of ending story stuff for quite a while now, at least since the Warsong update iirc
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these are just ramblings of a mad person though bouldy

wanton plover
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June was the last major patch right, so maybe 3-4 months from then so that's why I was assuming it to be october

fierce bobcat
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but I am also high on copium and dont know anything !!!

wanton plover
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maybe they'll release it during halloween since it matches with the aesthetic

fierce bobcat
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I doubt it because if they're actually 2+ more months to finish a game then why not make 1 or 2 extra balance patches happen?

split silo
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the copium is through the roof and i’m all for it

wanton plover
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imagine they relase it on 2026 though

fierce bobcat
weary tartan
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2026 gang

wanton plover
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btw, did the achievement leak you mentioned also contains spoilers for the ending or not really?

fierce bobcat
crimson pagoda
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for a weak definition of spoiler imo but everyone has different tolerances

fierce bobcat
crimson pagoda
warped osprey
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waiting for both hades and slay the spire 2 now that i have 2 weeks off is driving me a touch insane 🥲

shy zephyr
warped osprey
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mhm, i am 150 hours in

shy zephyr
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ah

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how are you enjoying it

warped osprey
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i love my time with it, but i do want to see what 1.0 is going to bring

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have you given it a go yet?

shy zephyr
fierce bobcat
shy zephyr
split silo
warped osprey
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i just want to ||wake up hypno||

dense anchor
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same!

split silo
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<@&456908176877551658> pls

wanton plover
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lmao

split silo
wanton plover
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this new patch? haha

steep mural
primal trench
shy zephyr
rocky sentinel
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How's everyone's night Im hyped for whenever the game comes out on switch

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I put around 900 hours into hades 1 one of my favorite games ever

fierce bobcat
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A lot of people are of the opinion that H2 manages to surpass H1 by a wide margin, it's really awesome

rocky sentinel
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Wait it's that good apparently

fierce bobcat
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and the rest just say that it's just as good, just different

rocky sentinel
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I got a take a week off to fully play it whenever it's released

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I've only seen the siren fight only because I loved the music tracks that played

fierce bobcat
rocky sentinel
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I don't mind less dashes tbh

fierce bobcat
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ok then you'll probably love this game too

rocky sentinel
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Sometimes I would over dash in h1 and land in lava

vivid flare
fierce bobcat
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it's got at least twice the amount of content too!

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there is plenty of stuff to do and play with for sure

vivid flare
rocky sentinel
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Twice the amount?!?

fierce bobcat
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Yep!!!

vivid flare
rocky sentinel
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I've put around 900 hours into Hades 1

fierce bobcat
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you'll see what it means !!! :)

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yeah i already have 200+ hours in H2 despite it still being in early access

rocky sentinel
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Well gotta go I don't want to know a single mechanic about this game I want to be fully immersed into it

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I'm trying to avoid everything bout it and I mean everything

fierce bobcat
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sure thing~ yeah be mindful of the spoilers!!
there are a ton of crazy twists that are waiting for you lol

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have fun!

rocky sentinel
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Do we know a release date at all from enswitch and switch 2 yet

fierce bobcat
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tl;dr any day now is technically possible, could be august, could be september, could be october

vivid flare
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Nope, release date is "when it's done"

fierce bobcat
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probably not later than october, but i mean anything can happen

rocky sentinel
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My birthday is in December maybe by then I can pick it up for a birthday gift

fierce bobcat
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I feel like it's 99% guaranteed it'll release before december 🤞

vivid flare
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But it'll probably come out in time to be a Game of the Year award nominee

Even though Norman Reedus and the Funky Fetus 2 will likely win

rocky sentinel
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I'm hoping this game I've been waiting for whenever it's been announced

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I've been waiting

fierce bobcat
rocky sentinel
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Expedition 33 was such a good game

fierce bobcat
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or uh Silksong.. if that comes out

vivid flare
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If

fierce bobcat
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If.... 😔

rocky sentinel
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Honestly u know what I would love a Hades and Hades 2 music track on vinyl

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I haven't been this hyped for a game release since the Spyro the dragon trilogy got a remake

fierce bobcat
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you could theoretically play the game already too, you know

rocky sentinel
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I could but I don't have a PC

fierce bobcat
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ahh understandable

rocky sentinel
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I have a switch lite and Xbox one

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And I'm really not looking forward to upgrading yet plus Hades 2 will be on switch 1 console

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So I can keep using my old console

fierce bobcat
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Idk how you live without a pc tbh haha

rocky sentinel
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It's not too bad I work most of the time

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But I am taking a siesta for about a month when the game comes out I got vacation time I haven't used yet

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I got a plan Im playing Hades 2 when it comes out ordering Chinese food and dr pepper and just relaxing

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I haven't had a soda in about three years

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I'm so hyped for this game especially with everyone saying how good it is

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Have a good night everyone

woeful vapor
sacred kernel
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too bad hades 2 came out in arguably the best or second best year of videogames in the last 10 years 🙁

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i really want an indie game to win game of the year

scenic arrow
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best year of video games?

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feel like we've had a lot of those recently

fierce bobcat
fierce bobcat
scenic arrow
fierce bobcat
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Silksong could have a chance too whenever it comes out

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Balatro also got so close!

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Wait hi not evil pronto

scenic arrow
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Hades 2 and Silksong both making it to this GOTY nominee seems unlikely I think

fierce bobcat
scenic arrow
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I don't see them doing 2/6 nominees being indie lol

fierce bobcat
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I can absolutely see that!!!

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Geoff has been adamant about wanting to support indies more especially

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And dunking more on the evil capitalist companies that do tons of layoffs

scenic arrow
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nah

fierce bobcat
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You have no faith 😔

scenic arrow
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in geoff? nope

orchid spoke
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I mean I'm trying to think of what AAA has done this year that's award-worthy and I can only think of like DK Banannza and Split Fiction

fierce bobcat
# scenic arrow in geoff? nope

Idk he invited the bg3 director again last year to give a proper good speech about the games industry and also he's been giving a free slot free of charge to one indie game every time too I think

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Like he is trying to do better and make up for his mistakes in the past

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At least that's what it looks like idk

scenic arrow
orchid spoke
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Oh yeah forgot ab that

fierce bobcat
scenic arrow
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Kingdom Come 2 would be a based pick but I doubt it

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also Nightreign might make it meaning Elden Ring has gotten nominated 3 times

fierce bobcat
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I doubt night reign will make it tbh

scenic arrow
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oh KCD2 is Feb, too early for their cycle

orchid spoke
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Death Stranding 2 is prob gonna be on there 😪

scenic arrow
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probably lol

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What's still up for release this year... MGS Snake Eater remake, Borderlands 4, Silent Hill f, Ghost of Yotei, Battlefield 6, Outer Worlds 2, Pokemon Legends Z-A, Metroid Prime 4, Silksong(cope), Hades 2(probably)

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oh yeah Sakurai's new game, Kirby Air Riders

wanton plover
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insane year for gaming though, sad cant play most of them cause I only have potato laptop

fierce bobcat
wanton plover
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yehh, that's why I'm waiting for hades 2 and Silksong

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Im currently on my Metro Playthrough (2nd game). It's actually good

scenic arrow
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I need to finish Metro Exodus one of these days

wanton plover
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I'm on last Light currently and I heard good things about exodus

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it has 100k positive reviews on steam so im excited

scenic arrow
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I've mostly been juggling AAA and indie games rn. Playing the Golden Idol duology as well as MH wilds and SMT V Vengeance

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just wrapped up DK bananza

wanton plover
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Speaking of indie games, outer wilds was such a good experience alsoo, I think it's one of my top indie games with hades and hollow knight

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actually almost all indie games I've played was good tbh

scenic arrow
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I don't think I've ever really played bad games, just games I kinda fall off on

wanton plover
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The only game I've dropped (maybe I'll finish it in the future) was Mass effect Andromeda

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such a letdown storywise from the main series

sacred kernel
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i think 4 positions of GOTY nominees are locked (EXP33, DS2, Split fiction and donkey kong), i really hope that hades 2 can snatch one of the positions

scenic arrow
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oh yeah I should play mass effect sometimes, I tried the first game and fell off it in the first planet lol

wanton plover
wanton plover
scenic arrow
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6

wanton plover
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Ghost of Yotei probably gets nominated

sacred kernel
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eh, from the trailer i kinda doubt it ngl

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the graphics look oddly similar to ghost of tsushima which came out in 2019

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oops

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i mean 2020

wanton plover
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Well the graphics is still really good in 2025 terms. I even think if tsushima was released on 2024/2025, it still gets nominated haha

scenic arrow
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those grass physics

sacred kernel
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i really like the game but i dont think it would be nominated if it came out rn tbh, its reviews among critics is quite bad and it was lucky to be in an arguably weak year

wanton plover
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fair point

sacred kernel
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crazy that it has a 83 on metacritic pikawow

scenic arrow
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I think critics were just sick of reviewing big open worlds lol

wanton plover
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if Exp 33 doesnt win, I will riot XD

scenic arrow
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I'm one of those edgy "yeah expedition 33 is aight but not goated" people

sacred kernel
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to be fair i 100%d the game, and the open world aspect of it is not strong :(, but it does have alot of other strong aspects so i feel it was unfairly reviewed

scenic arrow
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I probably put Blue Prince above Expedition 33, though Blue Prince kinda doesn't have a strong ending

sacred kernel
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you hurt my soul with that one haha

wanton plover
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heard blue prince was also good, what is it about, no spoilers though

sacred kernel
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puzzle game

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with a touch of roguelike

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and it does those aspects exceptionally well

scenic arrow
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Blue Prince is a puzzle roguelike with resource management. Your goal is to get as far as you can before you run out of resources, while also solving puzzles for almost every room

wanton plover
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puzzle and roguelike, that's a combination I've never heard of before

sacred kernel
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yeah its alot of fun (though considerably difficult)

scenic arrow
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I think the elements kind of clash tbh

wanton plover
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i like puzzle games , I'll add it to my wishlist and get it once it goes on sale

scenic arrow
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the initial exploration where you're finding out new stuff is just excellent

wanton plover
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I loved outer wilds so I'll probably like this

sacred kernel
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i hated outer wilds (pls dont kill me)

wanton plover
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hahah, we all have our own opinions XD

scenic arrow
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(kills you just a little bit)

sacred kernel
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i do think its a good game tho, i just didnt connect with it

wanton plover
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just like lot of people dont like Death Stranding, I loved it tbh

scenic arrow
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outer wilds is just so goated

sacred kernel
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its a unique game that isnt supposed to work but does anyway

wanton plover
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it also released during covid which was a weird coincidence haha

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I wanna play DS2 but I need to wait for the pc port in 2-3 yrs ahhhhhhhh

sacred kernel
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its probably just a year

scenic arrow
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oh right it's ps5 exclusive

sacred kernel
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cant wait for hades 2 to fully release so i can 100% it

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i had so much fun with hades 1 100% so im excited for this one

sturdy elbow
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I think ive played hades 2 too much, because I tried to play it yesterday and my hands and brain were like: nope! Im burnt out on this!

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I give it a week before im playing it like all the time again

scenic arrow
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I like talking about it but I haven't played it in a month or so

primal trench
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rookie numbers

signal jackal
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lots of long breaks between binges bc of my old lady hands

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H1 I did entirely on Switch so I don't have access to those numbers yet but they're somewhere in the 300 range last I checked

scenic arrow
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for me there's just too many other games in the world to play!

tame blade
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I wonder if Hades 2 will surpass my full Hades 1 playtime

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I've played the first for 840 hours more or less

wanton plover
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Do you think Hades 2 release date will be revealed tom? (Gamescom)?

tall plover
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Hades 1 was a surprise release. I think there was a leak of the date at one point but there was no "The game will release on this day," type announcement.

wanton plover
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Imagine silksong and hades 2 release date tom, i might die

tame blade
orchid spoke
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Earlier release date means less polish and that likely most of the Patch 11 feedback goes unimplemented

tame blade
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Dunno

orchid spoke
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Unless they're like "oh it releases December"

tame blade
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I mean, there will be post-launch updates and for what I've seen the game looks really polished, and SGG wouldn’t release the game if there's some serious bug or any stuff

orchid spoke
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Game's closer to 1.0 this patch than 10 was but if they go to 1.0 quickly still a lot of bad mechanics that get locked into place forever

tame blade
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Hm, if they release the 1.0 on this month (I don't think that they will) I would trust in their decision

spring meadow
orchid spoke
spring meadow
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oooh

tame blade
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Btw, some datamined stuff of the Olympic Update showed material from the post-ending game

orchid spoke
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Plus patch 11 made some rework changes that could only get feedback this round

tame blade
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I will not say what, if you want to know see go in your own risk

spring meadow
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fair enough

scenic arrow
signal bolt
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ah ye the launch trailer said "fall 2020" that later became the following september, didn't catch that

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the h2 trailer's gonna be hype i think

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idk how they're gonna top the unseen trailer

tame blade
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So would be nice if SGG drop a teaser

warped osprey
wanton plover
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ah btw, is the gamescon like a livestream where they showcase the games? and upcoming new ones?

warped osprey
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there are some shows / parts of it that are being streamed, like the ONL (open night live) today, and the nintendo direct showcase

waxen pagoda
clear marsh
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how do i progress eris relationship bar? no spoilers if possible, but i usually fight her on rivals if that makes a difference

shy zephyr
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she's the most common npc encounter, just do ||surface runs||

low bough
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Mb

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You can delete that now

tame blade
tall kernel
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would be really cool to hear about full release soon

scenic arrow
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My guess is 1.0 trailer in September, release in October for the spooky season

vast oasis
tame blade
worldly topaz
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it was just concept art

tame blade
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Not gonna say the D-world anymore

night bramble
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Guys do you prefer to play hades on pc, console, or switch?

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Im wondering about buying hades 2 on switch (when it came out) but on pc is much cheaper

wanton plover
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Sept 4 Silksong, hoping Hades 2 releases a date soon

primal trench
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(i dont have a console or a switch)

tepid schooner
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The same for me, don't have a console, but it runs really well on PC (nearly any PC, it runs fine even on my 8-year-old gaming laptop)

soft jasper
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yea, this game doesn't require too much high end hardware yet still gorgeous.

tame blade
tame blade
primal trench
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i think if a game doesnt care about silkson, itd be hades

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doesnt care as in it can rival

tame blade
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Hope so

primal trench
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theyll release when ready

tame blade
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I am counting that H2 will be something like my birthday gift (November 20

primal trench
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i am counting early 2026

tame blade
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But I wouldn’t complain if SGG release in september btw

tame blade
primal trench
tame blade
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It sucks, but that's life

primal trench
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truth be told, im not that hyped for 1.0, gameplay wise we pretty much got everything

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whatever is missing is just a nice lil bonus

tame blade
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I understand that vision in the EA pals, but I have not played the game yet

primal trench
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understandable

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yeah i bought it day 1

tame blade
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And my hype is very high since the first game is my favorite game of all time

primal trench
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same

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and this is easily my second

night bramble
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hmm

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im gonna wait for switch 1 version then
it will probably feel so much better playing this and devs gets all the money LOL

scenic arrow
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switch 1 version might not be great tbh. Hades 1 already had framedrops in some hectic sections

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but who knows

fickle ruin
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well i WAS gonna get hades 2 soon

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BUT i guess im saving that money for silksong

verbal mango
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@fickle ruin i have this game absolutely amazing

wanton plover
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xbox game pass users are eating good, lot's of good games so far

rocky copper
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this game is v well optimized, i just started playing today

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ran at a locked 165 on only a 2060 super

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i might just be used to the bar being in hell tho

rocky copper
woeful vapor
sand void
warped osprey
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laptop, but with controller is my choice :D

polar laurel
tepid plank
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Controller makes me afraid I’m going to permanently strain my thumb lmao, so KB+M is my go to

shy zephyr
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funny because controller players don't use kbm to avoid carpal tunnel

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"pick your poison" ahh situation

primal trench
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Wow did i just find keyboard users? Perhaps I wasn't alonr

worldly topaz
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kbm master race

shy zephyr
primal trench
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Wow I thought i was alone

orchid spoke
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I'll learn kbm at 1.0 if they don't fix coat but fingers crossed

tall plover
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Maybe it's just a really small selection here but I feel like more people played on controller in H1 compared to H2.

signal bolt
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i imagine keyboard prob gives overall better control

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as a controller user i don't feel like learning an entirely different control scheme

tall plover
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So you're saying I should stop waffling and play Sekiro on MKB since I can't get a controller to work?

tall plover
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(I played Pyre on MKB, for what it's worth)

orchid spoke
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I played all of H1 on kbm then switched to controller for H2 bc of the dev recommendation

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Now I can't go back 😔

tall plover
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Some day I'm going to remove the "Controller strongly recommended on PC" screen from HLB's boot sequence.

zinc quest
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I feel like both KBM and controller work in Hades well enough (both games) and probably depends largely on personal preference. Some weapons lend themselves better to KBM vs. controller but I think everything was designed to work with controller.

Personally I just like using controllers for non-FPS games when I can

shy zephyr
tepid plank
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It’s a relic from playing video games during class for those wondering :P

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But also, the auto-aim for KB only is good enough where you pretty much just face Mel in a vague direction towards any enemy and the aim snaps and takes over.

split silo
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I'm genuinely interested on how the hell that works. I assume WASD are also for aiming, but what do you use for attack, special and cast?

tepid plank
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UIOP

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Shift for dash, U for cast, O for special, P for attack, LCtrl for Hex. I is unused for combat

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Along with copious amounts of auto-fire bound to space.

tall plover
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...Where's your Space?

tepid plank
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Wdym

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I have auto-fire on toggle and the toggle is my spacebar

shy zephyr
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someone should make a melinoe ballin gif

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though i assume it's a lot of work

umbral sand
night bramble
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I was wondering, will the physical release of the game be released at the same time as the virtual one?

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Or with some delay

worldly topaz
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at least currently announced, so unless its a shadow drop at the same time assume delay, if it happens period

scenic arrow
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Hm when did physical switch 1 hades 1 drop?

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Hades 1 was September 2020. Physical was March 2021.

worldly topaz
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march from what im seeing yeah

scenic arrow
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Playstation and xbox were August 2021

timid robin
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Is it just my luck or is the chance for grave thirst not equal for every weapon? I got 5 now and haven't even used all of them because the bonus is always hitting the same weapons.

polar laurel
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True randomness doesn't feel random

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Tbh they should definitely make it so the game at least tries to spread it out. I barely use the coat skulls and staff since it's always landing on the other three

timid robin
polar laurel
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If it's any consolation the grind in hades 2 is wayyyy shorter than it is in hades 1 so it definitely stops mattering at a point

scenic arrow
polar laurel
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"Mostly true" random

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I'm sure they're just doing some kind of randi % 5

scenic arrow
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the "weightgate" issue from destiny 2 comes to mind where they had a bad hashing algorithm

polar laurel
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Welp

timid robin
polar laurel
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Yeah I have 160 hours in hades 1 and have about 2/3 of the weapons maxed, maxed everything in h2 around 80 hours

timid robin
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Though right now I feel a bit overwhelmed with the amount of different resources 🙂
But I'm sure that will get better.

polar laurel
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It does. And all resources are unlocked the same way, playing

scenic arrow
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theres just one of each type per biome
flower, ore, crop
and then some other stuff like psyche, bones, ash

worldly topaz
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excluding cosmetics anyway

polar laurel
#

Tbh the resource gathering side of the game is really underdeveloped

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I hope the crossroads renewal project gets some of its prestige costs replaced with specific items you can find, that'd be a nice way to integrate it all together

primal trench
#

that said, yeah random works in random ways, not how you want it to work

rocky copper
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i just beat the first boss, really enjoying the improvements from the first game

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hecate's character is my favorite thus far

stiff hound
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Hecate is neat. She’s a great first boss too I think

rocky copper
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also the enemies in this game hit hard 😭

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i'm also terrified to face her again because ||i think i only pulled it off because i had a 25% damage boost against her from nemesis' keepsake||

soft jasper
zinc quest
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I think I went back to H1 at some point early on in EA just for fun and I was quite surprised when I realized how much they are the same...but different. Like the core gameplay is the same but Zag and Mel definitely play differently and it's jarring going back after spending much time in H2

signal bolt
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yeaa h1 feels more hack and slash while h2 feels more tactical

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you're also not fighting rng as hard which is sick

queen pendant
#

Wooo I just got hades II im hype

worldly topaz
queen pendant
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Also I’m not done with hades yet so I’ll fill in time

tall kernel
#

A hades 2 console release date would be really cool to hear soon.

tame blade
tall kernel
tame blade
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Ah

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It will launh simultaneously with the PC version

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I think that next month and beyond the launch will be imminent

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My guess is in October

tall kernel
tall kernel
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As much as I loved Hollow Knight, my hours of Hades 1 dwarfs my time with Hollow Knight by a factor of 6x or more

tame blade
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I don't know, but if the game launch in september definitely will not be in the beginning of the month

polar laurel
rocky copper
#

Is there any reference to the antikythera mechanism in the game? I got a chance to see it in person a couple years ago in Greece and always thought it would be a fun item boon to come across in the game

vivid flare
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There is in the first game, IIRC

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I want to say it's a house decoration there

woeful vapor
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Yeah, and Charon has one in one of his shops, Styx I believe

vast oasis
tall kernel
polar laurel
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I'm pretty sure I understood exactly what you said, and said that i did the opposite

scenic arrow
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I like Hades II more

primal trench
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I like both equally

primal trench
#

Moooooods

polar laurel
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Hades 2 is too good. It makes hades 1 look bad

primal trench
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disagree

orchid spoke
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Eh Hades 1 still holds up for the average experience

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Unless you're doing high heat or speedrun

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Then you start to see why H2 is better

polar laurel
#

Hades 1 is alr but i much prefer the strategy of gameplay in h2. It also just feels easier to make a build come together

fallen kite
manic path
#

I've done 4 runs on Hades 1 (one that's close to 100%, the rest just seeing how quickly I can do a full loop), and spent a ton of time with Hades 2 in early-access... atm I love them pretty equally. I slightly prefer the overall flavor/builds of 2, but I found the bosses in 1 had a clearer difficulty curve (so far) + the full story was really affecting and so well done.

They do feel quite diff and compliment one another, but until we get the full ending/s story of 2 + final gameplay balance it's impossible to choose lol.

primal trench
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The only thing missing from h2 is the story ending, so my opinion won't change, i only value gameplay, story is but a bonus for me. Both games are good gameplay wise

tall plover
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H1 1.0 added gameplay. EM4 didn't release until then, neither did Hades's keepsake.

worldly topaz
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or ||persephones||. But those are VERY minimal in the grand scheme - and we aren't even missing EM4 this time

primal trench
worldly topaz
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100%. There was stuff obviously missing from hades 1 1.0 that had to be coming. Anything coming to h2 1.0 is pure speculation short of stuff from the achievement list that was shown a month ago

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You can argue for a bunch of different things at varying levels of cope

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but nothing is on the level of guaranteed like fists hidden aspect was, cause what were they gonna do NOT have a 4th aspect for a weapon?

vivid flare
wise locust
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inb4 they surprise us with 5th aspects all around

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or just the infernal arms idk

worldly topaz
foggy radish
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Ultrlamesh

signal pewter
#

So, I take it there is no release date yet?
Let anlone a PS5 date?

shy zephyr
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ps5 and xbox will likely be a few months after the initial release

dense anchor
#

common console L

signal pewter
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Console L?

shy zephyr
signal pewter
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Ah, not sure I understand why getting it a few months later is a loss, but ok!

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That said, I do hope for a more stable port this time around Hades 1 crash more than it should!

dense anchor
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I just like teasing console players

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but I couldn't imagine waiting a couple months to play hades II after initial release

shy zephyr
primal trench
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I know right 🥹

signal pewter
#

Well I got like 4 or 5 copies of Hades on different platforms and did the full early access, for Hades 2 I wanted to get the final thing, with stories and dynamics complete instead than in progress.
So I decided to wait !
My current PC might be able to run H2 correctly, but it will likely be better on PS5.
So I'll wait and stay as far away from spoilers as I can.

primal trench
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truth be told i suggest you stay away from this channel and server in general, stuff just slips out from time to time

scenic arrow
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theres 2 hades now??????

zinc quest
shy zephyr
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but people regularly ignore it anyway 🤠

zinc quest
#

oh you mean the text at the top of the screen? I'll be honest, I didn't even notice it (I may have at some point but it's grey text and doesn't really stand out). If that's what you're referring to, I kind of wonder how "post Erebus content" is even defined. Like, you go through Erebus every Underworld run but some things about Erebus can be changed that might be considered a result of "post Erebus content" 🤷

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I'm also a bit of a Discord noob though so if you're referring to something else, I wouldn't even know how to check

orchid spoke
zinc quest
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Yeah I think that would be a fair assumption

worldly topaz
#

the good litmus test of this was basically technical test tbh

zinc quest
primal trench
zinc quest
scenic arrow
signal bolt
#

understood. apollo now is no longer a twink

zinc quest
#

If there's any question as to whether or not something is a spoiler, it's always better to air on the side of caution. This is the "no spoiler" channel, after all. Every other channel is the wild west in that regard, gotta maintain at least one safe haven for newer players

hushed moon
#

Just started playing this game the past few days and I’m enjoying the crap outta it!

unreal vigil
#

Heyo, whom to give the first nectar to?

worldly topaz
# unreal vigil Heyo, whom to give the first nectar to?

Ideally you should be aiming to give it to all olympians, but as of later patches the thing you got for that is now locked between meeting the final boss of each route so not the best target.

I would give it to skelly though, just so you can have an early DD

unreal vigil
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would they stack?

worldly topaz
#

yes

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complete separate DD, but its removed if you take off the keepsake

unreal vigil
#

i literally cant beat the 2nd boss ; (

wise locust
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she is difficult

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don't beat yourself up about it, everyone gets stuck there for a bit

unreal vigil
#

which is really annoying cuz i keep losing when she has like 50-100 hp

wise locust
#

drop your cast to keep the pinheads at bay

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especially oCast

unreal vigil
wise locust
#

absolutely fine there, just don't use omega attack since it just hits her shell

#

mel daggers can be upgraded to do backstab damage which will really help with tearing down Roxy since she can't turn

zinc quest
# unreal vigil i literally cant beat the 2nd boss ; (

You already got good advice, I'll just add that it's important to not get too greedy with your attacks. You don't have a time limit, so there's no rush. Early runs are a good opportunity to get a feel for each boss right - don't put too much pressure on "winning". It will get easier over time as you learn each fight and upgrade things, but it's harder to learn when you try to zerg rush the boss. You can dodge everything, and until you're comfortable with the fight, avoiding getting hit should be a higher priority than doing actual damage (it will come more naturally later so that avoiding getting hit is 2nd nature and you can focus more on trying to actually kill the boss)

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Also while daggers are totally fine and I think all weapons are perfectly viable here, I do think staff is probably easier. If you really like playing daggers though, you should stick with it because you're going to have more fun (and probably play better) when you're using a weapon you like. Don't be afraid to experiment with other weapons though!

shy zephyr
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delete this message

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that's a big spoiler fyi

vivid flare
#

Remember what channel you're in

unreal vigil
unreal halo
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question, in as little spoilers as possible, can somebody please tell me if there are ||any more hidden aspects besides the 3 you first get on every weapon?||

split silo
unreal halo
#

thank you!

slow ermine
#

Indeed, from different mythology’s

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Very cool stuff

queen pendant
#

Also can I say Artemis has such a glowup I was like oh my gosh

astral bobcat
#

Afternoon.

hoary prairie
#

hey i just want to know if theres any info of hades 2 coming out after early access. i don't really like to play games until i can max it all down, so once im done with hades 1, i preferably would rather wait then go into hades 2 early access.

fierce bobcat
hoary prairie
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what would you say at the absolute worst of how long it could be?

fierce bobcat
hoary prairie
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oh alr im cool then

fierce bobcat
#

yep yep!

hoary prairie
#

dont have to wait as much for silksong compared to that

fierce bobcat
#

lmaoo yeah I honestly want Hades 2 to take longer to come out now because Silksong is going to take me like a month to finish haha

hoary prairie
#

and i still can't buy it... becuz my father just bought me hades 1 like a month ago

fierce bobcat
#

💔

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that's unfortunate

hoary prairie
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its not money is the problem, its just that my father thinks ill be addicted to these games

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and he is totally right, hades 1, hollow knight, and a few other indie games were so fun

fierce bobcat
#

both Hades 2 and Silksong are insanely amazing games, so you can't go wrong either way!

hoary prairie
#

anyways thanks for the info!

fierce bobcat
#

no prob!

fringe holly
#

What is Silksong? I’ve seen multiple references to it now

split silo
cobalt rivet
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Both sequels to hugely successful indy games which weren’t thought to be getting a sequel.

open magnet
polar laurel
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6

low yew
#

7

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Lol 😂 idk why I did that

rocky sentinel
#

Whats the possibility of Hades 2 being released on Halloween of this year

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There's a Nintendo direct in like 2 days

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I've got money put away for whenever Hades 2 is released

glass berry
fringe holly
#

Does Supergiant usually announce the date of release for their games in advance? Or is this a “no warning, just release” situation

shy zephyr
fringe holly
#

What’s shadow drop?

primal trench
#

Or during the announcement itself

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That's what they've been doing with every update so far, and since h1 did i expect the same here

fringe holly
#

I’m starting to feel nostalgic for Mihoyo which releases Genshin Impact updates on a strict 6-week schedule

primal trench
#

The thing about no release schedule is you can't dissapoint people for being late bouldy

fringe holly
primal trench
#

Sometimes you gotta push back, sometimes stuff is not ready, sometimes it needs a bit more time in the oven, I prefer a game delayed than an undercooked mess

tall plover
#

Mihoyo also has many thousands of employees. They should be able to regularly churn out updates. When Amir and Greg have several battalions worth of coders and artists we can expect the same kind of work from SGG.

fierce bobcat
tall plover
#

I don't even know Mihoyo's work culture, but I can guess that it's not as healthy as SGG's (because I've never heard of a work culture as healthy as SGG's).

tall plover
#

But anytime someone says "Just don't fail," I've got a problem.

#

I am unfamiliar with TC's culture, so I'm just being safe.

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People, and every game developer is comprised of at least one of those, make mistakes. They miscalculate, sometimes bite off more than they can chew, etc.

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Take the most god gamer here, put them in their very best game, and they will eventually goof.

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Goals will be failed, deadlines will be missed. That will happen unless you have unlimited resources to eternally get more artists and testers and what-have-you.

potent cedar
shy zephyr
#

mark your calendars boys and girls, september 25th

wanton plover
#

I need to finish silksong nefore hades 2 fak

placid cloud
#

Will the price increase when 1.0 drops?

echo wing
#

1.0 is one month early for my birthday present, but i can't complain MelGrin

weary tartan
placid cloud
sand void
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"The Nintendo Switch 2 version features blazing-fast 120fps performance in TV Mode. If you get the version for the original Nintendo Switch, you can download a free upgrade to the Nintendo Switch 2 version if you have both consoles. Your progress from Steam or the Epic Games Store can transfer via Cross Saves."

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I love that 😄

rocky copper
#

Omg the game comes out on my birthday

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Silent hill f next day and ghost off yotei on October 2nd, everyone is celebrating me 😛

worldly topaz
trail zenith
#

Is the digital switch copy also a Nov release, or same day with 1.0? Hard to tell from the announcement.

fast plover
fast plover
#

yep! less than two weeks from now

vagrant shore
#

I'm so excited! I've been holding off on playing because I want to play on my switch like I did for hades 1.
Is it possible to preorder or do I have to Remember? lmao

primal trench
#

idk if switch does preorders

vagrant shore
#

me neither, i almost never preorder games lmao

sand void
#

I'd recommend setting up an alert in whatever calendar app you use 😄

vagrant shore
#

you see, there's a key assumption there,

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me and my friend did prank a server we were in about preorders for silksong. my friend kept editing in zote into the preview images on the steam page but also editing in a "preorder" button and zote got more and more obvious but no one noticed bc they were confused by the preorder button not being there for them

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he edited one for me, too. then i panicked bc i'm a mod in that server and i remembered after posting the "no misinformation" rule

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but one of the other mods pointed out the zote in mine so it was fiiiiiine

rocky sentinel
#

So i just watched the direct September 25th

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I'm so hypeeeeeeed

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I thought it was gonna be later this year

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Two weeks to go

primal trench
#

it is later this year

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close to 2 weeks late

rocky sentinel
#

Oh yeah plus I just looked on the switch store it's 30$ that's a great price

scenic arrow
#

Oh dang 1.0 on the 25th

queen pendant
#

September 25 babyyyy

royal plover
#

YOOoo

queen pendant
#

Yeah man we eating good I’m hype cause my sister got a switch two and can play this game

hollow mirage
#

We are soo back

torn barn
#

Let's gooooooooooo

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I already couldn't play silksong yet because of another game, now i'm wayyyy delayed

primal trench
hollow mirage
lone sapphire
#

taking a few days off for this game

queen pendant
#

But my sis is a hades fan and she gonna get hades two on switch day one as she planning to preorder it

tall plover
primal trench
#

boated bouldy .

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the goated

rocky sentinel
#

I'm so ready I've got two weeks of pto I gotta use I'm gonna order Chinese food and some strawberries and cream Dr pepper and just play Hades all day

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I'm really glad they ported it to Nintendo switch 1 too I have a switch lite I play on

queen pendant
#

Quick question why does hades two have so many buttons

weary tartan
#

like for general combat or other stuff? cause combat is p much the same buttons as h1

queen pendant
#

Care to show your button mapping

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Cause I feel overwhelmed by the control map and I dunno which ones are relevant aside the basic ones like cast and specials

weary tartan
#

lmb attack
rmb cast
m4 special
space/shift dash
e interact
f hex

queen pendant
#

But thanks

weary tartan
#

oh yeah I've seen people change lots to be on bumpers and triggers to play stuff that dashes a lot and still needs to attack and special, I wouldn't know myself, hopefully someone with controller schemes can chime in

agile siren
woeful arch
#

hey all, just saw the awesome news about the release date - is hades 2 going to be releasing on playstation 5 on launch? it kinda didn't look like it from the trailer but i just wanted to see?

tall plover
#

It will not be on PS5 at launch.

woeful arch
#

Ah, just switch and switch 2?

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But the digital version? The physical version will be on Nov 20?

tall plover
#

Yes, the game will launch download-only.

woeful arch
#

Ach, I only have a switch and ps5, but I don't want to do the disservice of playing the game in anything other than 120hz!

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I might need to finally get a switch 2 for it

tall plover
#

I tanked Mario Kart World across the jaw and didn't flinch. Kirby Air Riders looked at me funny and I went down. Oh, it also releases on November 20th.

#

Good year for the Switch 2.

scenic arrow
#

idk the specifics past that

woeful arch
#

It'll be interesting to see if it'll be 4k120fps - it seems too much, so maybe 1080p 120fps

scenic arrow
#

I wonder if Hades 2 benefits a lot from higher res in the first place, since a lot of it is 2d art assets

woeful arch
#

Good point!

elfin swift
#

2 weeks 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

dark breach
#

I haven't played the game for over a year now. I looked into the Early Access right when it launched but then thought I would save the rest for the final release which is now so close. I since have gotten a Switch 2 and would love to play it on there since I already played Hades on the Switch 1. But I guess there is no way of transfering that license of anything, right? I would just have to buy it again on Switch 2?

signal bolt
#

if u mean going from steam to switch, yea i think ur gonna have to buy h2 in eshop again

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standard for most games iirc

dark breach
#

Yeah that's what I figured. Bummer. But I guess I will do that. Would you say Hades 2 is as good as the first one? I loved the original and really enjoyed what I played of the EA but as I said I have only played like 10 hours in it and decided to wait for the full release then. So I have no idea what and how the game has changed since then.

signal bolt
#

it's also not really a "license" cuz buying the game should mean complete ownership of that game copy but uh that gets into an entirely different issue

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o yea h2's super enjoyable i'd say, it's got a ton of content i think u'd enjoy

dark breach
#

Do we know if there is any new content coming with the 1.0 update?

quaint fox
#

the ending of the game

signal bolt
#

1.0's gonna be all the (remaining) story stuff, then prob all the good polish etc etc

dark breach
#

But any new zones for the runs?

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I remember how story progressed in the first after every run. So is it "just that" or is there also something missing in the run. Like a zone or boss?

signal bolt
#

i believe all the runs are gameplay complete rn

dark breach
#

So I guess taking another look at the current version can't be bad

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Even though I have to admit that I forgot most my playing time from last year. I'm terrible at remembering that stuff. Ask me about a quest in a game I finished a while ago and I won't remember 😄

signal bolt
#

lol fair, tbh it might be worth just holding off until two weeks then so that u get to have a basically fresh start with a properly full game

surreal palm
signal bolt
#

mhm, i'm just taking the question very literally of "any new zones for the runs", which i heavily doubt that the current run formula will change atp

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maybe a miniboss here and there but that gets into speculation/guessing territory so eh not worth thinking about

potent cedar
signal bolt
#

i mean haelian's a really strong player overall, even if he doesn't play ||high fear|| on the regular he's still got a pretty good grasp on the game i imagine

fringe holly
potent cedar
frozen ember
#

Haelian is genuinely very good but he's not one of the best of the best rn, no. Though the distinction is only worth making when people are taking his words as gospel, he is still very good.

wanton plover
#

Will the price increase in steam for hades 2 once 1.0 is ready?

primal trench
#

according to the steam store page, no

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unless they changed their minds

flat stirrup
#

To Supergiant games, I just want y'all to know.

#

I look forward to later this month with great interest.

oblique crater
#

if i had a nickel for every time a super popular indie game sequel was given an unexpected trailer that showed a release date 2 weeks from then, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice

mystic vigil
#

Hyped.
Haven't touched the EA after the final region dropped so now I'm looking forward to start fresh on a new save MelGrin

vernal surge
#

Hi all, I haven't touched Hades 2 at all except to set the display settings.

Do we expect the introduction of the game to be different come the full release?

shy zephyr
#

there are rumors of a secret fight similar to Charon's hades 1 fight to be added, but even if so, i don't expect it to be accessible early

vernal surge
#

"First win" meaning "first exit" in terms of Hades 1 ?

fierce bobcat
vernal surge
#

Thank you 😊

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I'll play a bit of the start to set my key bindings

shy zephyr
fierce bobcat
#

😌

vernal surge
queen pendant
woeful arch
#

does anyone know what quality the switch 2 version will run at for 120fps? considering getting a switch 2 so i can play on release weekend but not sure how it'll be - though if we can get 1080p at 120fps, that would be huge

woeful arch
worldly topaz
#

the full FAQ on their website

woeful arch
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thank you!

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sounds like that's locked in me getting a switch 2 then!

round fiber
#

Hey all. I was just wondering if anyone knows when in the day Hades 2 is gonna release in each timezone? I mean I'll find out on the day I guess, but if possible I'd like to know when I'll have access to it

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and sometimes in my timezone it's a whole day later cause it happens at like 3am

primal trench
#

dont think anyone knows any time yet, were still 10 days away

round fiber
#

that's fair. I hope we get something concrete before the day. did the patches come out at a set time during the day?

worldly topaz
#

gun to my head as a full release i would bet on it launching when the steam store updates at 1pmEST

round fiber
#

okay. that'd be like 8pm for me

worldly topaz
#

entirely possible its like an hour earlier though, but i highly doubt before that

wary fiber
#

Guess I’ll take the following Monday off - can’t take the 26th off.

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Who are your favorite people to watch Hades content on YouTube?

split silo
#

Haelian and Boated are great. I mostly watch these 2 for H2 content.

weary tartan
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boated 🙏

shy zephyr
weary tartan
#

the humble frog man cult when people ask for h2 content creators:

shy zephyr
#

idk man the ||62 fear|| runs go kinda hard

split silo
#

his “fun runs” are also indeed, fun to watch

queen pendant
thick ice
#

How grindy are people finding the resource gathering? I’ve heard from a friend it can be pretty bad. Is it notably worse than Titan’s Blood?

shy zephyr
prime mica
#

They made resource gathering way better but if you want to unlock everything its still gonna take tons of runs

split silo
thick ice
#

Is it still tied to slowly increasing difficulty? I kinda liked that

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Or is it just “grind runs until you get what you need”, which is much less satisfying

dense anchor
#

the latter

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although nightmare is tied to fear

split silo
#

without spoiling, there are multiple ways to gather the resource that upgrades your weapons. both the old way and new ways

prime mica
#

Yeah you dont have to but it speeds up the process by a massive amount if you increase difficulty

worldly topaz
#

like overall its probably objectively more grindy in a vacuum

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but its not like.... GRINDY

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you'll just find yourself really needing a specific resource that won't god damn spawn

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since its not guaranteed

thick ice
#

Uuuugh that sounds actively terrible lol

prime mica
#

Its not bad really

worldly topaz
#

yeah most of the time you actively have zero issues

prime mica
#

Its more grindy in a vacuum because there's more things to spend resources on

worldly topaz
#

BUT i guarantee at one point or another you will find yourslef missing one or two specific resources and need to play one of the paths multiple times to collect that amount

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for like 90% of things you'll just automatically collect stuff on your runs and then buy stuff as it comes up

#

think like the early hades 1 contractor stuff where you need to prioritze what to spend your resources on first

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thats not an issue and is actually kinda fun

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the problem comes in when you need like 5 X and that region has multiple encounters in the same room so the chance for a resource doesn't refresh betwen encounters leading to you only getting 1 X that run

thick ice
#

Yeah, that sounds icky but otherwise it’s probably fine

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Like waiting for ||Dusa||’s quest to work in H1 (or anyone else’s lol)

polar laurel
broken bear
scenic arrow
#

gathering iron kinda sucks

broken bear
#

we probably shouldn’t be specific in this channel

#

but I mean not really

unreal halo
fossil crow
#

two quick questions:

  1. will the price of the game change on release
  2. is the 1.0 release just early access plus an update, or is early access only a part of the whole game
unreal halo
fossil crow
#

my question is regarding the amount of content in early access and in 1.0

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how do they compare

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for example, bg3 on early access was only act 1, then the game released with 3 acts

unreal halo
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oh well no one could possibly answer that for you as we can't see the future but generally speaking the game in early access is like 95% complete, most major gameplay elements are done. i assume the most major changes will be adding the endings and all character interactions relevant to that. but who knows they may surprise us with some cool new gameplay stuff as well

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definitely not as big a change as bg3

fossil crow
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gotcha

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thanks

iron star
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their ea qna on steam says price will stay the same

shy zephyr
shy zephyr
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spoiler mark those names

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you can currently get a bond with 10 characters

worldly topaz
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your can do that with 10 characters in the current version, and yes those are post Ephyra so you gotta spoiler them

jagged marten
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Idk how to do that I just deleted the message

shy zephyr
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add || on both sides of the spoiler part

worldly topaz
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| | twice without the space, once at the start and once at the end. ||like this||

jagged marten
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Oh so like this. Like this.

shy zephyr
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you can currently get a max bond with: the romancable characters which are ||nemesis, icarus, moros and eris|| and these people ||chaos, narc, ares, selene, dora, heracles||

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@jagged marten right click on my message and copy it, paste it somewhere and look where i put the | symbols

jagged marten
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So like this: ||ares||

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Oh ok, thanks for the help

queen pendant
misty sand
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for people playing on switch when it's out, are you gonna transfer data or start from scratch

primal trench
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transfer if i can

zinc quest
broken bear
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yeah

zinc quest
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oh didn't even know that was an option. That's nice! I assume you still have to buy the game twice if you're going from something like PC to Switch, but still cool to have

primal trench
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H1 had it, idk if they confirmed it'll be a thing here

queen pendant
inland hound
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The 1.0 trailer goes inconceivably hard

broken bear
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ive rewatched it an unhealthy amount of times

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(actually i watched videos of streamers live reacting to the hades 2 announcement in the nintendo direct but same difference)

inland hound
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Same, currently trying to pick good frames for wallpapers

cobalt rivet
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Studio Grackle did this one too, right?

iron star
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GOD i cant wait

shy zephyr
iron star
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I have avoided every thing in this game for over a year

dull lily
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Hey

primal trench
short crystal
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The emotional journey of going to #hades2-faq is… sad.

“Oh no, please let it be normal physical on NS2… YES YES IT IS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

…wait I’m getting excited over the bare minimum.”

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Really got me hitting that

cyan abyss
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So I've only played the first one but does Hades 2 take place after Hades 1, and if so then is it addressed? If it's technically a spoiler then I don't wanna hear it then

tall plover
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Yes, 2 is a direct sequel and takes place after H1.

worldly topaz
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with other issues not shown in h1

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just getting the 10th win(1st ending) in H1 is enough to play h2, and even then its not like it matters that much

cyan abyss
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Ah ok understandable. Asking since I've only escaped 3 times so I don't wanna accidentally get spoiled if I start playing Hades 2

worldly topaz
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you may as well wait 2 weeks for hades 2 launch

worldly topaz
cyan abyss
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Ok cool

primal trench
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yeah is a whole separate story, but it does happens after the events of h1

cobalt rivet
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Only one week now!

cyan abyss
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Yippy

worldly topaz
shy zephyr
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this is funny but technically not allowed in this channel 😂

shy zephyr
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especially with 1.0 right around the corner a lot of people in this chat have never touched the game

fleet hearth
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Aa Oki, so no spoilers here

shy zephyr
fleet hearth
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Done ^^ srry, i'm on my way to school lol

spice geode
primal trench
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I mean not really? H2 doesn't really spoil anything from h1

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What connects h2 to h1 is just the fact that it happens after the events of h1, but pretty much nothing that happens on h1 gets mentioned on h2, aside from the characters mentioning zag, which doesn't say much

broken bear
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at least, right now. im assuming the full release’s story will depend a bit more on it

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considering some things they’ve set up directly has to do with last game’s characters

frozen ember
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This is not true the ending of H1 is mentioned in H2.

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If you happen to ||check a particular item in Melinoe's tent||, you can see it before your second run, even.

idle night
glacial finch
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Soon™️

broken bear
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I almost forgor

short crystal
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Thank you Supergiant for the built-in excuse to wait a few months

Physical gang rise

queen pendant
short crystal
# queen pendant im playing the ea in steam soooo

I played the veeeeeery first release of EA, bled into the first patch, realized how much changed with the resource system in that one singular patch alone, and instantly went cold turkey on the whole shebang

broken bear
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the resource system has been changed since then if it helps (in terms of collecting)

short crystal
zinc quest
# primal trench I mean not really? H2 doesn't really spoil anything from h1

For someone truly and 100% new to H1, there are references to things revealed at later points of H1s story that would be a spoiler. People can debate on how significant those spoilers may be, but there's no getting around the fact that H2 does make reference to things in H1 that aren't immediately known when you start H1

broken bear
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yeah true^

high elm
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I had to finish h1 completely before starting h2 since it spoiled a specific part

short crystal
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I think I just sold another copy of Hades

“I loved Transistor, but I’m not a roguelike guy and I don’t care about Greek myth”
“Before either of those it’s a Supergiant game”
“Sold”

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…I’m doing my part?

elfin swift
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This was me about pyre (though tje sports aspect made me give up,.,., near immediately)

scenic arrow
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they do it well but idk, just hoping for something more exciting and novel

short crystal
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As a Percy Jackson kid (and an actual Greek at that), a new interpretation of Greek myth by cool creative people is on the higher end of stuff you can do

But I do totally get it

elfin swift
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Yeah i love hades but transistor was what got me into SGG and everything about that game was crazy good

scenic arrow
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Hades 1 and 2 do tell some interesting niches of Greek Myth that sometimes aren't explored as much

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But also sometimes do tell the stuff that everyone does know

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The quality and quantity of stuff in the games is what makes them shine, but I'm looking forward to their next game with some more zest and spice, yaknow?

elfin swift
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Greek myths probably the most well trod stuff. I love h1 & h2 but its near impossible to make greek myth feel new, especially if the the major pantheon is a major focus

Smth a la transistor... I think something thats a little less real time could be fun

scenic arrow
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Pyre was basketball in purgatory

short crystal
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~~would I be killed for admitting I only ever played SGG’s Greek games

Too many games exist in this vast world of ours~~

scenic arrow
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Hades was their breakout hit so it makes sense

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their second breakout hit I suppose, after transistor

short crystal
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Meh, always heard more about Bastion before Hades

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Guess stuff like that is relative to perspectives

elfin swift
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Yeah
I think technically hades was bigger
And crazy to think ive realized theres a lot of people who now like.. Were simply not there for the bastion and transistor years

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I dont think theres been a SGG games that wasnt a hit.. Just.. Increasingly bigger hits

Except maybe pyre? I dont hear of it as much but that could be bias

scenic arrow
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yeah they have just been growing, but hades was definitely pretty huge

short crystal
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It’s both weird and exhilarating to witness “those weird little guys who just make an increasingly diverse set of bangers”

Like, we got any Vanillaware fans in chat?

sly magnet
scenic arrow
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just looking at steam reviews:
Bastion: 17.4k reviews
Transistor: 16k reviews
Pyre: 5.4k reviews
Hades: 132kreviews

sly magnet
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and maybe the reason they launched hades EA so soon after pyre

elfin swift
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Ans theres a 5 year gap & covid iirc?
I feel like theres been an exponential increase in game interest between transistor and hades which helps hades

short crystal
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Vanillaware is Japanese SGG without a Hades II equivalent

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I can’t imagine what it must have been like for the SGG oldheads to suddenly get all the eyes on their goats after all this time

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Let alone what their FIRST SEQUEL EVER would mean to them

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I mean, both studios are responsible for two of the best games you can buy on the Switch- 13 Sentinels and Hades

queen pendant
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Bro I live in the east coast and 12 pm is pain because I have class

vivid timber
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real

tall kernel
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Me and my friend are big fan's of hades, play it together a lot. We going to do a Hades 2 night next Friday. Can't wait!

broken bear
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yay! that’ll be a blast

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have fun :D

prime mica
pine night
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not sure if i should drop silksong for hades 2 lmao

tall plover
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do it

pine night
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i don't even know what is going to win game of the year this year

tall plover
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I think the 3 contenders this year are Clair Obscur, Hades 2, and Silksong.

pine night
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i don't even think hades 2 gets a nod this year is insanely packed

tall plover
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Well those are the only three I know.

broken bear
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hades 2 will absolutely get a nod

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we have been playing EA for a while so it’s less new to us, but like as a game hades 2 is new and awesome

tall plover
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If The Last of Us 2 swept because of sequel prestige Hades 2 better get at least a nod.

broken bear
tall plover
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It only swept because of sequel prestige.

broken bear
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yeah

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the writing was abysmal 😭

tall plover
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The Ghost of Tsushima, Hades, FF7R.

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Part 2 had no business getting the press it did.

broken bear
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agreed

tall plover
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Oh yeah and The Ghost of Yotei next month.

pine night
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we got clair obscur silksong donkey kong DS2 borderlands 4 is getting massive praise now kingdom come split fiction ghost of yotei hades 2

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i didn't even mention ninja gaiden 4 that's coming out next month and doom the dark ages and monster hunter and south of midnight

tall plover
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You mean The Dork Ages?

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Eternal was also 2020.

pine night
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this is the deepest year for gaming we've seen in a good minute

tall plover
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It really is, honestly.

pine night
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so unless hades 2 is a massive success that can beat out those games i think it doesn't get into the game of the year convo

broken bear
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we also got deltarune chapters 3 and 4

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(which I don’t think will be goty just saying good year for gaming)

broken bear
pine night
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i think it's coming down to clair obscur and silksong

broken bear
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yeah expedition 33 according to some of my friends is like The Perfect Game

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it would not surprise me if it won

pine night
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and silksong is the perfect sequel to a perfect metroidvania

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clair obscur is the perfect debut game

polar laurel
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I wouldn't say silksong is a perfect sequel since it kinda doesn't do the stuff that I love about the original like the nonlinear exploration paths. Still great game but since h2 directly improves on what I loved about the original I think I like it more

vivid flare
tall plover
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TLoU2 took a lot of awards from a lot of publications, not just the VGAs.

vivid flare
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Expedition 33 does the impossible and makes the French look somewhat cool

queen pendant
worldly topaz
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just wait until lategame where ||you have like 22/30 grasp all preselected cause the others suck||

wide abyss
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why is hades 2 not releasing on ps5?

worldly topaz
shy zephyr
worldly topaz
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While we haven't ruled out bringing Hades II to any other platforms, our current focus is only on the versions listed above.

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historically, it comes to other platforms after like 6~ months

wide abyss
worldly topaz
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expect it to release next year probably late spring or summer

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of course game could theroetically giga flop and they don't port

wide abyss
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ah yes the 1% chance we do need to consider it of course ahahaha

bold sentinel
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Question for hades 2 players, just finished 1 including the epilogue and I was wondering if It would be better to wait for next Thursday before playing 2

shy zephyr
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just 5 days left anyway

bold sentinel
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That's true, I'm just very excited to try it so my resolve to wait is slipping a bit.

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But I want the full experience so probably better to wait

worldly topaz
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Gameplay wise its basically a full game already

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but to make a hades1 comparison you instantly die after fighting dad

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no meeting mom or any story consequences that come from that etc

bold sentinel
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Thanks for the comparison, Yeah I'll wait then

shy zephyr
queen pendant
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Nah I wanna go blind

broken bear
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very valid

fierce bobcat
primal trench
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Both

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I run both bewave

sly magnet
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free thinkers run max vow of void so they don't have to think

fierce bobcat
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let the game do the thinking for you!

stoic pier
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Hello everyone! This might be a stupid question but are there plans for dlc? I want to buy hades 2 at launch, but if there will be more content, I'd rather wait til it's all out! I don't want to google too much due to spoilers 🙂

worldly topaz
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but they also didnt tend to make sequels either yet here we are

stoic pier
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Haha yeah, that's what I thought also, but there's a first for everything!

worldly topaz
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they may or may not, but as far as we know this is the final content update, barring any bug/minor balance change patches that come after 1.0 similar to h1

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all we know is that this is the 1.0 update and this is not a live service game

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assume we may get a patch updating some stuff when its ported to consoles but past that who knows, doubt its anything more than balance though

stoic pier
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Okay, that makes me feel better about getting it on launch then!

shy zephyr
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woah I'm sure <@&456908176877551658> would enjoy the money

primal trench
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Me af

scenic arrow
primal trench
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how do i support the devs now

vagrant ember
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bruh

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I lost to the || Scylla || three times in a row

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when she was one hit away from death

scenic arrow
primal trench
broken bear
scenic arrow
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anything beyond the first zone

primal trench
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Oh

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Nvm then

bold sentinel
primal trench
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Yall missed the joke

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I meant how am I gonna support the devs without the free money from the scam message

signal bolt
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refund h2 and buy it again

scenic arrow
primal trench
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....

scenic arrow
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mortgage your house to buy more Hades II

bold sentinel
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continue to buy until you run out of money and go into considerable debt

scenic arrow
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put it on Klarna

vagrant ember
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didn’t think that would be a spoiler

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mb

broken bear
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u may wanna edit ur message with a spoiler tag

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||message||

vagrant ember
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ok

queen pendant
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You think the hades two ost will be in Apple Music like hades one

broken bear
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i would guess it would since that’s one of the largest music streaming platforms

signal bolt
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they should let me use the songs on instagram so i can be annoying to my friends about it

lean yarrow
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🤔

terse grail
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Hades 2 soundtrack has been on Spotify for a bit so probably will come to other platforms

crimson lark
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looking forward to h2 soundtrack all on one album presumably with additional tracks we do not currently have (like how before h1 released we didn't have "on the coast" or "in the blood" bc those were story gated)

vivid flare
crimson lark
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ooh I didn't know that (started playing h1 just 2 months ago)

karmic gazelle
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Ok as hades 2 is release on 25 September and first of all I have never played original hades and hades 2 popped on my feed and the game play I see is really good so do I need to play the first part or I can directly jump in hades 2 . And no spoilers pls

shy zephyr
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cause you'll already know some of the characters and everything at stake

broken bear
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honestly there might be even more content added to where you need to play h1 first, we don’t know yet

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imo you should play h1 first

karmic gazelle
worldly topaz
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experiencing h1 lets you enjoy h2 more though with callbacks, revisiting locations etc

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H1 is a long game but its only long if you want to 100% which is a lot of collecting stuff

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or repeating slightly harder challenge levels

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just getting the "plot" for h2 is winning 10 times ovearll

karmic gazelle
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Ok bro thanks

torn shell
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Hey guys. With the console launch approaching, if I want to play the game on both Switch 1 and 2, I have to buy the Sw1 version and get the free upgrade?

signal bolt
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i believe switch 2 edition will work on switch 1 too