h2-victory-boasting

[rare parcel]

Ok, Frenzy 2 is hard to get used to lol

[neat jewel]

Ripple Effect + Tranquil Wolf Howl

If only you had Weed Killer too

Calling Card Oceanus into Heroic Volcanic Strike and Extended Family , brain went off after that and took like 100 damage to spike traps and Chrobo stage hazards

[neon grail]

I love nexus rush nyx

[tired shale]

just defeated Typhon with 24 of Terror AT LAST

[neat jewel]

Heat Rush start led me to Romantic Spark anyway LMAO, plus Hitch let me finally beat Sirens again

I locked tf in after not getting Survive Survive Survive from Echo, then promptly locked back out at the end of Tartarus accidentally taking Goldwrath miniboss cause I wasn't looking at the door (I was 63 HP so luckily it didn't matter with Pin), continued to not be locked in taking 142 damage to Chrobo lol

Absolute godlike luck, too bad I had to denial out Static Shock, Double Strike, and Pyro Technique

[noble ginkgo]

lol, finally managed to no-hit Chronos

[wet dagger]

Happened to me once as well. Hecate also acknowledges it if you no-hit her 🙂
Scylla doesn't though (at least she didn't in my latest run)
Speaking of which, I think it's the first time I take so little damage in a run that Chaos shows up in the list of damage taken 😄
Maybe I'll starting increasing Fear...

[lofty oriole]

Mistimed two dodges pretty poorly and cost me a nice 67 💀

Nice build though

[worldly moat]

i love the instant undo night lmfao me too twin

[lofty oriole]

Yeah I wasn't feeling it after taking like 50 shield damage against armoured Reed Stalker and having only 2 minutes left 😅

Heart wasn't in that fight

[coarse island]

Brutal

[hybrid burrow]

baby's first 40f surface

[neat jewel]

SEVEN

Morrigan enjoyer though 🤝

[cursive panther]

Probably had Athena's boon, Toula, Chaos Boon for an extra Death Defiance or smth like that

[lofty oriole]

Good stuff 👏

And this is why I hate Tempi in Tartarus. Next room was Chronos too💀💀💀

[olive vigil]

No hit promocles, wide grin hate is overblown I beat eye of typhon in 3 seconds lol

[lofty oriole]

Oh yeah Wide grin is pretty insane against Typhon 👌

[open dust]

Got my 32 Fear win just now.

Grit 2, Wards 1, Frenzy 1, Menace 2, Fangs 2, Shadow, Forfeit, Time 2, Denial, and Rivals 3

[olive vigil]

My first chronos win was wide grin, it’s like oh cluster rockets I know how to play this

I was 1-0 vs him it was so good for my ego even tho nobody cared irl

[pliant tiger]

oh yeah yo i got a new uw 67f pb a few hours ago

reached sirens

but ofc i died

[lofty oriole]

Prediction, the run where you beat sirens is the run you clear 67F 👌

Trust

[olive vigil]

just claw out their eyes and drown them to death, ez

[gray magnet]

No Boon 25 Fear. Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ7DJ9Dj5YE&t=126s

[sour widget]

Why not Icarus he’s the one making them now

[gray magnet]

I am friends with the hammers, not the person

[analog oasis]

If I beat Sirens, I make it to gramps. If he spams triple scythe, I die if not, I win. That is my prediction for you if these conditions occur.

[atomic fulcrum]

second tried Great Chaos Below, they really handed me my favorite weapon on a silver platter

fear was pain, grit 2, wards, frenzy, hordes, return, fangs, debt, shadow, time, hubris, denial, n rivals

and with that victory, i have 100%

[noble ginkgo]

I'm 95 hours in and only 29/50 achievements, and I almost never die, did you skip a lot of dialog and follow some step by step guide?
just baffles me

[atomic fulcrum]

i didnt skip dialogue but i referenced the wiki quite a bit on the fly for stuff like affinity favors n trial info

other than that ive just been marathoning it

[noble ginkgo]

I don't use the wiki too much, I could spoil the Fates quest for myself or how to wake up Hypnos, but I feel like that would ruin the game for me

[atomic fulcrum]

fair, i didnt look at anything story related pre-emptively i mainly used it to make better informed decisions with resource usage/how to unlock the hidden aspects, things like that

[wet dagger]

Oh never mind, she DOES acknowledges it... On the next run:

[lofty oriole]

Pretty sucky way to lose 67F 🙃

[rotund badger]

augh that sucks!

[lofty oriole]

He truly sucks 😬

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[tall veldt]

New surface fear PB

[frozen sequoia]

omega special merchant

[neat jewel]

Yeah looks like 3 from Death + 1 from Toula + 1 from Circe Toula + 1 from Athena + 1 from Tooth

[neat jewel]

I would say just use Pin though

[hybrid burrow]

Circe’d Toula, Stalwart Stand, Defiances, Lucky Tooth

hilariously like 5 out of those 7 were used exclusively on Rivals Typhon

[hybrid burrow]

honestly god bless Morrigan Blood-Triad reduces bad RNG so much

[neat jewel]

Yeah it's so adaptable too depending on the hammers you get

[rare parcel]

Getting the hang of Frenzy 2... I think

[orchid carbon]

New PB!

[neat jewel]

Took Tranquil Gain as my first boon hoping for Wolf Howl, got Godsent Twilight Curse instead

He LOVES Hexes

He LOVES timing out to Typhon and Prometheus and taking a billion damage as a result

He LOVES wasting CHeirloom on Pin

[neat jewel]

Eos 45f featuring a failed Pin proc in a weird Goldwraith room in Tartarus (thought it was the last wave) and a death to a Chrobo OHKO because I thought I had the damage to finish him (also featuring Blasts, Scorch, and Tranquil Gain Wolf Howl)

[neat jewel]

Eos 45f featuring Twilight Curse on the damage meter

[radiant stump]

It's a good weapon

Almost choked against spawn of typhon

[neat jewel]

45f "fun" run with Supay, thanks @lethal flicker for reminding me Anus Affront exists on aspects other than Medea and Mel Staff, I now remember how I used to beat Rivals Scylla easily, just get Anus Affront with Light Smite and kill everything at the same time (also STILL ended up getting Romantic Spark lmao)

It's just kind of a pain to set Anus Affront up optimally, got incredibly lucky getting all four of Zeus, Ares, Apollo, and Aphrodite in Erebus (but no duos until Oceanus which is why I timed out to Hecate)

[lofty oriole]

Heinous and Spark sheeeesh. Must’ve been fun 👏

[neat jewel]

Had I known I was gonna get this combo by Oceanus endshop I would've turned up the fear to at least 51 and gotten a new PB lol but you never know with Supay

[lofty oriole]

Wen 62F?

[neat jewel]

Never I'm too lazy to git gud and learn Rivals fights

[lofty oriole]

That’s what I said a few months back 🫢🫢

Ugotdis 💪

[lethal flicker]

Burn his house down, with the lemons.

[gilded ravine]

when the fire is away

[lofty oriole]

Holy Duo boons 😮

[lethal flicker]

5/6 possible, just never rolled master conductor

On a fate's whim run

[cursive panther]

When the fire is away

[cursive panther]

God dang it you had it first

[lethal flicker]

The whole sworded affair

[crimson birch]

LMAO

[pliant tiger]

more 67f training, sub 15 62f mel staff with strength no lovers lmao

that chronos fight was a war crime holy

[lofty oriole]

Damageless Chronos though 👏 👏

[pliant tiger]

i gotta send that chronos fight holy

https://youtu.be/7VINt2WwSFk

full vod coming soon

i think im confident that i can beat 67f just cuz of this alone

i just need to not let the nerves get to me

[lofty oriole]

Oo nice imma check that after work 👌

[lofty oriole]

Make sure this doesn’t happen to you too 🤪

[pliant tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[coarse island]

Bleh

Mb lol, I thought the second sreenshot was also for 24/24 50f but I guess not 😭

[lofty oriole]

Nice sub 16 👌

[coarse island]

Ye, recorded it too.

I wanna do some 67 attempts but I’m so tired rn, maybe later.

Maybe that win-screen will be on this channel today as well. Who knows.

[lofty oriole]

Looking forward to it 😄

Praying for 4 skip rooms including Artemis and good Siren patterns with every God showing up being Zeus 🙏

[coarse island]

Speaking of holy skip rooms

I had a Hecate enter with 2:21 left 😭

[steady prism]

Chaos really being my second biggest enemy

[coarse island]

That scythe dodge was so clean, I gotta try that.

[tacit zephyr]

Wow.

Reached Tartarus with all natural DDs expended, completely wiped magic gauge, underdeveloped healing hex, and beat Chronos without using EITHER my Athena DD (keepsake) or my Lucky Tooth, and with healhex left over, even.

(I got multiple Selene upgrades in Tartarus)

[frozen sequoia]

thank GOD for nergal regen i was getting my teeth kicked in by typhon

[sour widget]

Sacrifice strats for stabbing rush at the very end. Sadly didn't ever get king tide

Or an attack. I could have been funny and gone like zeus keepsake at the end to get his attack

Also didn't get arterial spray

[neat jewel]

In this house we respect Ares and his usually-trash-but-sometimes-awesome boons

[sour widget]

I would have taken his attack at the start if cut above didn’t appear

I did also get steady growth as my like second boon so that was pretty big

Took that in place of demeter’s attack

[neat jewel]

I do like Demeter attack on Supay cause it acts like a pseudo-hitstun but you're right you GOTTA take a purple Steady Growth in Ephyra

[frozen sequoia]

dionysus' weird mystery health thing is so disorientating 💔

[sour widget]

Absolutely, it was well worth it for the two levels on my special alone

[sour widget]

Holy facetank

[neat jewel]

I hate it too but it's hard to pass up that much health

Especially if the other options are complete garbage like Reckless Abandon, Drunken Stupor on a no-Omega build, or Bounce Back on Scars 3

[sour widget]

Reckless abandon is goated on SOME weapons

[neat jewel]

And with Air Quality yeah

[sour widget]

Hel, blades, mirrored thrasher staff

And yeah if you get air quality it's got basically no downside

[olive vigil]

Go off incandescent aura and Hera dash

[neat jewel]

Anubis OSpec spam 🤝

[crimson birch]

Victory roasting: this cursed run where I was running with zero attack or special boon until mid-Fields, not even out of choice -- iirc the only attack/special I skipped was the very first boon -- and then just grabbed the first two that came along because I needed something before Cerb

Then Fig Leaf failed to proc for two regions in a row, which, if you're keeping track, is the majority of the times it's supposed to proc :)

33% is a FAILING GRADE, Dionysus.

Also Controlled Burn on the damage board lmfao

[neat jewel]

SuperGiant buff Fig Leaf

Also that's 2 straight screenshots with Controlled Burn on the damage meter lol

[crimson birch]

Yeah, but Anubis Controlled Burn is reasonable

[sour widget]

Controlled burn on Selene feels cursed if not for fourth degree

[neat jewel]

First time I ever enjoyed coat, though half the run I was just annoyed I couldn't get either King Tide or Arterial Spray

I now understand after watching that Mel Coat 67 by purple that the Coat can easily be a safe ranged weapon, I just couldn't look past my dislike for the weird special animation for the longest time

[neat jewel]

Also Nyx sounds very adaptable with Blitz, Hitch, Waves, and Scorch being great options on the safe special

[sour widget]

Truly the Poseidon waves experience

Dealt with the exact same issue

Sometimes I’m tempted to take the higher chance of rare on hubris just to make legendaries more likely

[pliant tiger]

you only get like a 10% chance for legendaries if u equip excellence which is not that good imo

[neat jewel]

I swear it's Poseidon being mad at me for never playing him lol

[autumn torrent]

One of the best runs ive had. Chronos chunked me a good 145 but was armor so does it really count? anyways love mel staff remind me of zag bow so much its fun.

[neat jewel]

Congrats, what Mel Staff reminds me of is Guan-Yu because of the superstrong ranged specials

[autumn torrent]

never played much guan yu specials but now that i think of it, yeah it kinda is the strong special then dash and special again weapon of this game

[neat jewel]

45f with Judgement, never hit Death so I disabled Strength with Tooth in Tartarus just in case of OHKO shenanigans

Thinking of doing PB 53f with Judgement lol

[coarse island]

Should've antler'd smh

jk

[neat jewel]

Kid named 123 damage to normal Chronos for some reason:

There was a point in time where I consistently took 2 or less hits to normal Chronos with Mel and Circe but now I kinda just get hit a lot in P2 for some reason lol

[coarse island]

That's fine lol

[neat jewel]

Hell maybe I SHOULD Antler just to force wire my brain to try to not take hits

[coarse island]

That's the spirit

[noble ginkgo]

my first time fighting Rivals Cerberus, took a lot of damage, everything else was easy

[neat jewel]

Green lines all over the screen thank you Hera

[lofty oriole]

Can confirm that the added Antler anxiety helps with clearing runs 🫢

[lethal flicker]

Here comes trouble!
Make that double!

[analog oasis]

Holy boons

[lofty oriole]

Congrats! Think that’s the first ever 64 Nergal 😂

[analog oasis]

Thank you(?)

As you can see, I am totally bad at time.

[lofty oriole]

Eh you still beat it on Void 4

Insane progress

[analog oasis]

Yeah but kinda low fear

[lofty oriole]

64? 👀

[analog oasis]

65+ is high

[lofty oriole]

Think 99% of us would dream of getting that high lol

[analog oasis]

Everyone doing 67 with it

Keepsakes were JPom, Time Piece, Black Fleece, and Luckier Tooth.

[slate matrix]

"everyone" theres like less than a dozen people who have cleared 67 fear period

[analog oasis]

I only did it with Moros and aiming for 67 Nergal

[slate matrix]

dont be caught in the echo chamber that is speedcord

[lofty oriole]

64 is great!

[lofty oriole]

I feel that 😭

Even after clearing 67 I still feel like a novice at times 💀

[analog oasis]

Yeah. Thank you for saying that

[slate matrix]

"only did it with Moros" you do realize that you are among the first 10 person in the world to have beaten 67 at all

[analog oasis]

Oh

[slate matrix]

lmao

[lofty oriole]

That was a quick therapy session

[analog oasis]

That was my first run after work too

And of the day

[lofty oriole]

There you go

[analog oasis]

What next?

[slate matrix]

btw, the moment you clear even 50 fear you are among the top 1% of players, clearing 62 fear at all puts you prob like at top 0.01%

calling anything below 65 fear as "low fear" is insane

[analog oasis]

I'm just thinking out loud

I have sub 10 Nergal clears

Actually not

12

Yeah I gotta use it more

[lofty oriole]

0.01%?? That’s insane stats jfc 😮

[analog oasis]

I guess I can't submit that 64. Since its above 62.

[lofty oriole]

Guess you could try some Mel Staff 67s? 🙃

[lofty oriole]

You can still submit that to crossroads

[analog oasis]

I suck at Mel Staff.

[lofty oriole]

Someone did a 64F Mel Coat on H2crossroads iirc

[analog oasis]

Only done 50 Fear with it

[lofty oriole]

A while back

[analog oasis]

Nope. No video

[lofty oriole]

Oh you can do screenshot. It just won’t show up in the ladder

[analog oasis]

Oh

[lofty oriole]

It’ll show up in your Fear PBs.
Only 67F clears need videos

[analog oasis]

Ok

I'll submit it

[analog oasis]

What about 66 Fear if I did that hypothetically

[slate matrix]

lets say according to crossroads stats and vastly overestimating to say ~500 unique people cleared 62 fear

[lofty oriole]

Should be fine too I guess? Again it just won’t show up on the Ladder. Just your PBs

Weird spellcheck

[analog oasis]

You can look up PB for a person?

[slate matrix]

in EA, hades 2 sold 2 million copies, so 500/2000000 = 0.025%

[analog oasis]

How do I look up a PB for someone?

[lofty oriole]

It’s all there

[analog oasis]

I only got one submitted >.<

[lofty oriole]

Still kinda crazy to think about ngl

[slate matrix]

yeah and that 2 million was EA stats, idk how many post release copies were sold

[lofty oriole]

Even back in EA when we were doing the 50F clears

And you had the spreadsheet

[analog oasis]

I did 55 Fear right before Unseen Update dropped

Then got rocked by Hec

After the update

[crimson birch]

Did she get heckin' buffed

[slate matrix]

according to gamalytics, hades 2 sold ~3.4 million copies, and considering realistically maybe only ~250 unique people have cleared 62 fear, thats 0.007%

[analog oasis]

Submitted

[analog oasis]

Yeah. Vow of Rivals

[analog oasis]

Oh cool

[lofty oriole]

Even more crazy 😮

[analog oasis]

Is 64 Fear harder than 65 the way I did it?

Max Void so no Strength, Lovers, etc

[slate matrix]

significantly

[lofty oriole]

Ironically yeah lol

[rotund hamlet]

you left off hordes 3 or what

[lofty oriole]

Time 3

[analog oasis]

I have a feeling that 64 is basically max fear lite

Too afraid of the 5 min timer

Because well...

[rotund hamlet]

did you ever get your underworld nergal 67?

[frozen sequoia]

20 heat is my personal best ❤️

[rotund hamlet]

you can go way higher too, all that extra hp 🔥

[analog oasis]

No

[cursive panther]

when the nova is striking

[sour widget]

A shame you didn’t get exceptional talent or psychic whirlwind

[open dust]

Well done!!

Fastest time yet. Im very proud.

[open dust]

Didn’t have a recording so it’s not official but im 304th on the leaderboard

If i compare to official times

[lofty oriole]

Only using 2 keepsakes 😮

[sour widget]

FYI jpom and calling card remain active after switching

You can still use remaining rarify uses after switching off of calling card and the added Pom levels and hades boon from Jpom remain

So you can switch for region 3 and 4 and as long as you don’t take a god-summoning boon you’ll still have them

Same goes for Time Piece

[open dust]

Yeah i just usually stick with em cuz idk what to swap off to.

[sour widget]

I usually take the hammer region 3 and lion fang region 4

Or in place of hammer I’ll go like fig leaf or something else that will remain active

[lofty oriole]

Wantler into Tart

[crimson birch]

Lots of strong keepsakes out there! Metallic Droplet helps with your channel speed, Lion's Fang is a no-downsides damage boost if you take it last and don't fight a bunch of extra side rooms, Time Piece is free money, you could gamble on Chaos to give you a nice boon with the Embryo, etc

[sour widget]

Some weapons the hammer is anywhere from a decent to a massive bonus

[lofty oriole]

Always

[sour widget]

Yeah metallic droplet is also really good for fields

[lofty oriole]

JPom Fig Droplet Wantler seems to be a popular combo for speedruns

[sour widget]

I usually do jpom time piece hammer fang

Depending on gods I might go card in region 2

And depending on weapon go fig instead of hammer

Not confident enough for wantler

But yeah not picking an additional keepsake after fates’ whim keepsakes is literally just giving up potential

Since they last indefinitely

[open dust]

Greatly appreciate the advice yall. Will keep it in mind for my later runs

I keep forgetting to use hammer tbh it’s really good i just don’t think about it lol

[sour widget]

Yeah a third hammer is anywhere from decent to incredibly strong

Though depending on the weapon it’s bad if you get the wrong one like getting wide grin on skull

[open dust]

Right

12:10 just now with Shiva dang

[frozen sequoia]

i like aspect of morrigan its pretty fun and i think im getting more used to strength instead of dd so everythings going well

[covert glade]

Now to cut your time by 1/4

[analog oasis]

Night 2

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator?vows=WzUsMCwxLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDEsMCwyLDIsMF0%3D

Fear used this run

[plucky widget]

My very first clear of the Underworld :DDD and is it just me or is Scorch completely broken. Also wait im looking at this it is crazy that the thing that came closest to killing me other than the bosses was freaking Hera 😭

[analog oasis]

Scorch is indeed broken

[plucky widget]

I got very lucky with a hammer early on giving me +20 power after that I was melting everything

[analog oasis]

Put Hestia Special on blades and get Trick Knives. Melts everything

[plucky widget]

Trick Knives? Is that an aspect or boon? Or hammer upgrade

[analog oasis]

Hammer

[plucky widget]

Noted!

[analog oasis]

Or Zeus Special on Trick Knives also goes hard

[cursive panther]

when the pyro is techniqing

[crimson birch]

If you come for the queen you best not miss :P

[plucky widget]

Once again the gods have zero chill over mild slights it was like hera u nearly freaking killed me 😭

[analog oasis]

We need to make a meme out of that now "Whoops no hard feelings" Melinoë: Beaten and near Death

[olive vigil]

@crimson birch I’ve not had that dominant a rivals chronos fight before, cheers

[sour widget]

Just a tip and I know it seems like you got pyro technique first but it’s usually best to not take pyro technique if you plan to get freezer burn

That way more scorch stays on the enemy so you can activate freezer burn on it

Unless you were to get burning desire

Then it’s fine to have both since you’ve got the infinite scorch

[neat jewel]

Nyx 45f surface, no gain boon + Static Shock + Trusty Shield + Snow Queen + Shimmering Rockets meant I was basically playing worse Mel Coat most of the time lol, purple Volcanic Strike in final shop

[neat jewel]

Looks like a sacrifice killed Arterial Spray RIP, congrats though

[cinder field]

yeahhh it was right at the end. vow of denial kinda almost screwed me over

[olive vigil]

You know jpom effect persists if you swap it out in zone 2 yes?

either way great job

[cinder field]

WHAT REALLY

you just gain the effect for the whole run?

[crimson birch]

As long as you obey the Fates' Whim

[cinder field]

huge knowledge

[crimson birch]

Any other keepsake that says "this night"/"for this night" etc also keep their effect after you swap em

[sour widget]

Got the funny quad aetheric moonshot build

Sadly had to choose between exceptional talent and sunny disposition

That would have been really strong with the triple heartthrobs

[rotund badger]

very fun chill Circe run that didn't come together until pretty late -- a strong start (peep the heroic level 12 attack, lol) kept me going all the way up until the shop before cerberus with no cast boon, and then it snowballed from there. Took a bunch of damage from Chronos but as always I'm learning and improving in that fight, and the damage didn't overwhelm like it sometimes can. For a run where 3/4 of the time I had no way to use the aspect's whole mechanic, I'm pleased!

[rotund badger]

bananas burst damage!

[sour widget]

yeah I should have gone for apollo attack and aphro special

I had a sacrifice option for it but ended up taking perfect image since I still needed the special for exceptional talent

[rotund badger]

mel staff aphro special is quite nice

[sour widget]

@rotund badger

Not nearly as crazy but still fun

[rotund badger]

yeah that looks fun!

[cinder field]

this aspect is too good

[rotund badger]

it is my favorite aspect for sure, great fun!

and one of so few things that works with cast

[cinder field]

thats the aspect i got randomly in the great chaos below trial

[sour widget]

Generally considered second best aspect in the game for a good reason

[rotund badger]

i wish there were hammers that changed cast 😄

[sour widget]

Oh also that surface run just now was apparently my fastest by a minute

[olive vigil]

If you put on an Olympian keepsake you lose the effect but otherwise yeah, get that chronos watch cookin! And note that includes Athena

[sour widget]

🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨

[cinder field]

imagine if you could get 4+ athena boons

[sour widget]

Athena would honestly have invalidated a lot of the game if deflect was a core boon effect

Nearly every annoying enemy just completely useless now. Deflect was so much more situational in the first game with how fewer enemies had projectile spam

[crimson birch]

*Olympian-summoning keepsake

Dionysus and Artemis are Olympians too, but their keepsakes don't let you yoink a boon from em

Accordingly, Fig Leaf and White Antler don't invalidate FW

[sour widget]

Yeah only stuff that guarantees you boons breaks fates

Selene also doesn't count since she's not a boon

[crimson birch]

Well, she's not an Olympian either :P

[sour widget]

Well yeah I know that but it's still something that functions the same way as the god keepsakes

But yes she's not Olympian

Fates' whim liked me besides literally never seeing hephaestus to get grand caldera or furnace glow after ephyra and never getting rude awakening

Just face tanked typhon until I needed to not get hit lol

Oh yeah also common steady growth hit my attack twice and my special once before I even got to eris

So that was big stocks early on

[sour widget]

Supay popping off. Though yet again the game refuses to give me rude awakening

[rotund badger]

Back up to 45 fear, I feel confident enough in my rivals chronos fight now that I'm headed back up towards 50+ again to keep climbing. It's really nice feeling the improvement in my play over previous runs

sorry i always forget to pin the relevant stuff lol

I got heph blasts from a crappy sacrifice in the final shop before cerb, mind you, and they made the damage board by the end of the run 😄

my omega specials are entirely from when I had epic aphro special + dual moonshot + giga moonburst. Then I got heph and never used them again. they made the damage board too 😄

[sour widget]

Lol not a terrible outcome given it's not what you expected

[rotund badger]

no it worked out phenomenally!

it was a ton of my chronos fight killing power, but aphro special woulda been fun too

i like a good heph blast! got it too late for glow or any of that sadly, and gambled on a hestia boon in final final shop that could have taken away my special yet again but instead offered me master conductor!

[noble ginkgo]

why did you tank so much, you almost died

[sour widget]

Because I could

🤷‍♂️

[noble ginkgo]

one more stray projectile and you would've died

[sour widget]

Okay cool

Like not trying to sound mean but like it's just a low fear run

It doesn't worry my that much. Only reason I'd have cared was it was on track for a new time PB

[noble ginkgo]

I just did a very similar run myself, surface 12 fear (for the 2nd statue), no hit Typhon lol
pretty much a perfect Thanatos build, rapid hack + aphro + all the damage boosts, very very fun

[sour widget]

Nyoom

Beat Cerb before my damn hex even finished charging what a goofy aspect

I think it wants me to use demeter

My fastest underworld by a wide margin

If I was recording it would put me at 282 on speedrun leaderboard in between a million medea skulls and mel/circe staffs lol

With one of the worst aspects in the game

5th fastest Selene record by default cause there's only 4 and the slowest is 6:xx

[neat jewel]

First time using the axe in weeks and uh yeah I see why people say Charon is easy now (did get lucky with Super Nova Geyser Spout AND Tranquil Gain Wolf Howl AND Sudden Giga Cleaver though)

Barely have to think with this combo just spam 3 cast Ospec then Wolf Howl

Only wish I got Island Getaway for more special power lol

Got Lucid Gain on my last run 40f surface and was set up for Exceptional Talent but didn't get it

[sour widget]

Anubis is so fun

Though sometimes the placement of the secondary arc from that hammer feels so random

[neat jewel]

That was a close one on the second OHKO lol

[sour widget]

it's okay I was tippy tappying the D key

[lethal flicker]

That's due to a bug in its placement

[sour widget]

I figured

[lethal flicker]

it doesn't compensate for parallax in the Y direction

[sour widget]

Didn't feel intentional

Ah got ya

[lethal flicker]

hey at least it's better than Exceptional Talent's bug on anubis

[neat jewel]

Not on Ospec thankfully (right?)

[lethal flicker]

No, that's fine

but with the oAttack damage field, it has this property where multiple damage fields don't stack damage on the same target, so basically mirrored ankh is just giving you a bigger AoE rather than trying to get you to thread the needle and double hit big bosses

all fine and dandy, and clearly by design

Exceptional Talent causes you to fire a second damage field and it costs more, still all fine and dandy....

except it places it in exactly the same place as the first

it literally does nothing but cost more

[sour widget]

I got so utterly dumbfounded by that phase shift that I completely shut down lol

[lethal flicker]

pfft

[sour widget]

I could easily have just ran in and attacked him to cancel it

But just all brain processes ceased and I just stood there

[neat jewel]

Incandescent Aura and Explosive Intent on the damage meter (and Scorch after I only got it in Olympus on a forced sac from Arctic Ring)

I thought maybe Tipsy Shot was gonna brick me, but luckily the timing is just right with Giga Cleaver (other options were Reckless Abandon and Personal Loan and I have a soft spot for Trippy Shot anyway), it also removes the doubling up option but I don't like doing that anyway cause it causes uncertainty

Also turned down CHeirloom for Local Climate because cast boon

[south snow]

it was my first victory against vow of rivals Chronos, so i took 30% from god mode cuz it was really hard (sorry for Artemis btw)

[lofty oriole]

Should never have to apologise for Artemis 🫢👌

[south snow]

dw, i singed with her after

[south snow]

made it (shoutout to @lethal flicker and @neat jewel for tips)

[neat jewel]

Juicy duos

[lethal flicker]

Solid choices on cores

[neon grail]

snow queen weed killer

forgot to highlight epic racing thoughts

[neat jewel]

We LOVE Hail Storm doing nothing as usual

[neon grail]

it's the epitome of filler duo boon lol

[radiant stump]

It's a good weapon

A relief to do better without fates whim for once too

[lofty oriole]

Oh wow barely any damage taken 👌

[pliant tiger]

aint really a normal victory but i got a new 67f uw pb: almost phasing sirens 🔥

[sour widget]

Hey now don’t talk about Hail Storm like that… they’re trying and we love them and their willingness to contribute (however small and useless it may be)

[sour widget]

Ignore that it didn’t even show up in my top damage above Divine Vengeance

Though granted I did have heinous affront

But still I was using casts a lot at the end to get freezes

It could really use a damage rate increase though

[sour widget]

Yo that was sick I didn't mean to time that so perfectly

[olive vigil]

Last gasp gaming

[radiant stump]

Light smite on the board (no anus)

[sour widget]

Sanguinary Savor got pushed to page 2

Only 1600 kudos away from max rank

[pliant tiger]

3 am clutch

now i just need to get this amount of luck for my 67f attempts

[analog oasis]

Go for it at this point

[pliant tiger]

man its 3 am im not going for it now

[sour widget]

new unseeded PB. Would probably have saved a lot of time if I'd gone droplet in fields

[pliant tiger]

u wouldve saved a lot of time if u antlered it

[sour widget]

Shhhhhhh

Like a few seconds if even I was practically one-shotting everything anyways

Cause of Rallying cry heinous affront

[analog oasis]

Oh

[analog oasis]

I'm Nightmare. Do I have to grind longer to get this?

Like an exceptionally long time

[sour widget]

I just always planted stuff and always used my vouchers to get psyche to cash in for Kudos

Unless I needed nightmares for the ranks

I just hit 180 hours in game

And have everything in the game purchased

Aside from like one thing that apparently need moly and is eluding me

[faint orbit]

any chance it may be || power to pause and reflect ||

[sour widget]

Maybe I have never ||actually paused during chronos lol||

[faint orbit]

That's probably it then.

[crimson birch]

Gotta be Rivals

[sour widget]

Took a ton of damage from eris cause she sat in the freaking doorway where I could barely get behind her lol

But I got success rate heinous affront with grievous blow that was fun

oh right and extended family with 30% bonus damage

Success rate launcher frame was goated

My first sub-10 surface

[crimson birch]

Eyy congrats 🧥

[neat jewel]

No music what kind of monster

[manic relic]

been a while, fun run

[plucky widget]

i just spammed omega attack and rana round like a mad man occasionally using my special . aphrodite <3 still the best

[analog oasis]

Oh yeah. It has to be 62 or below without a video to count btw

Anything above 62 requires a video

[crimson birch]

Me OMW to submit a 0 Fear run

[lofty oriole]

Ahh okay

No wonder some of my Image 62 Fears still got allowed to this day 😂

[analog oasis]

That 64 will be forgotten by time eventually

[lofty oriole]

Shame the 64F didn’t get a recording 😭

I’ll remember your sacrifice 🙏

[analog oasis]

I nearly screwed up at the end so it was close

Hmm can we ask Frei to make an exception once only?

[lofty oriole]

Probably not lol

Get a steam deck and play Hades 2 there 🫢🫢

[analog oasis]

Or just categorize it as a 62

[analog oasis]

Im not rich

[lofty oriole]

It’s more comfy and comes with background recording

[analog oasis]

Plus I like Pokémon and Hades 2 game jumping

[lofty oriole]

It’s similarish to switch 2 rn I think? Or maybe cheaper

[analog oasis]

I didn't pay for my switch 2

[lofty oriole]

You can do that on deck too

[analog oasis]

It was a gift from a friend when I visited in Japan

[lofty oriole]

Through totally legitimate means

Oh wow that’s super nice of them jfc

[analog oasis]

Agreed

[analog oasis]

No you can't

It would require modding my og switch and then dump files onto an SD and plug it into a Steam Deck. Either way, its illegal

[crimson birch]

Bruv I finally got a King Tide run

It wasn't very fast as these things go but finally

[neon grail]

Lost arachne dress to p3 chronos

[neat jewel]

Boated beat Max Fear with Mel Skull with Wide Grin AGAIN (and Hammer over Time Piece Oceanus), no PArray either

[crimson birch]

Hammer Oceanus
no PArray
That's so funny

[neat jewel]

Yeah it was Wide Grin, Volatile Array, Looming Ignition

I guess Looming is kinda bootleg PArray

Though I should note he did get offered PArray on first hammer but took Wide Grin over it because he didn't have a gain

[analog oasis]

New Nergal PB: Made it out of Erebus on 67 finally

Rest should go easily

Maybe not

Probably not

Definitely not

Played a 65 earlier with mel Coat but lost at Cerb

After being used to no Arcana (64 Fear), it felt SOOOOO powerful

[neat jewel]

Set up for Thermal Dynamics, Master Conductor, Chain Reaction, and Shocking Loss and got none of it, still one of my easiest 45+ runs

[crimson birch]

I guess Zeus/Hestia/Heph is a powerful and safe god pool even if you don't get their legs and duos

[neat jewel]

Yeah easy origination, all the ward breaking tools, and armor (though my only Heph boons were purple Volcanic Strike and Grand Caldera late)

[cursive panther]

after dying 10 nights to chronos I got him but no Heph legendary sigh

[sour widget]

This felt like it was gonna be a lot faster than it was

Also explosive intent gaming

[neat jewel]

Sadly the highest I've ever seen Froth damage lol

[neat jewel]

First time using Anubis focusing on attack, ugliest 50f win ever

No Pyro Technique, no Origination until Blinding Rush in Fields endshop

[warped steeple]

6 minutes?? Teach me ur ways

[hollow quartz]

turns out Charon axe is fun actually

[lofty oriole]

Attack > OSpecial for damage? 😮😮

[hollow quartz]

you really gotta add the cast damage to ospecial given how the detonation gets counted

[lofty oriole]

I don’t think I ever use the Attack when playing Charon 😂

Gj with the run though 👏

[lethal flicker]

Sometimes you just gotta slap a fool who rudely didn't die from a cleave cast

[lofty oriole]

Truuuuuu

Was randomly doing 67 last night and istg I play better when on the brink of death 😂

[crimson birch]

The speedrunners are out there putting out four and five minute times, it's wild. If you're interested in trying to go fast I think there's a guide on the basic tricks on Mobalytics!

[warped steeple]

My fastest record in Hades 1 is 8 minutes (so far, longest is 10 minutes)

As for hades 2, so far is 12 minutes, better than half an hour

[neat jewel]

Can't believe I dismissed Charon for so long because axe = slow = no range = hard to use, literally just get Sudden Cleaver and Lucid Gain (and Super Nova) and it's wraps

No need to think about dodging you'll blow everything up even at 50f

Even had Poseidon in the pool but didn't get Geyser Spout (or Prom Flare)

[coarse island]

I’m so jealous rn, not for the fact that you played well. But for the fact that you got past sirens on max fear..

It’s so hard…

[lofty oriole]

The biggest chokepoint by far 💀

Probably the hardest boss of 67 Fear 😂

[coarse island]

Mhm. Gotten there 5 times and haven’t even gotten close.

[lofty oriole]

This being Mel Staff though

Ever since that one Chronos loss, I’ve not made it through Erebus with Circe lmao

[coarse island]

😭

Yea. Circe’s tough

Mainly just because you NEED a cast

[lofty oriole]

I just want Zeus 😭

I’ve had multiple runs of just Poseidon or Poseidon 💀

Gimme all the Erebus skips with Gigaros Melting Static Blitz and Storm and maybe I’ll make it to Chronos 😂

[noble ginkgo]

well, Unrivaled Chronos was kinda hard

[frozen sequoia]

double oattack hammer with waves is pretty tuff + 350% aphro special and the duo !?!?!?!?! too bad i didnt get king tide but like wtv

[cinder field]

ggwp

[amber flower]

I've finally joined the 32 Fear Club

[severe belfry]

I've officially beaten every aspect, surface and underworld, on 10 or more fear :D

[severe belfry]

last aspect to do it was thanatos on surface

and now to move on to 16 fear :D

[lofty oriole]

Congrats

[lofty oriole]

Good luck 💛

[thorn hamlet]

you should probably start using origination, but ggs

[analog oasis]

Congratulations 🎉

[analog oasis]

My best with the coat

[sour widget]

Just barely missed the sub-10 surface

[cursive panther]

Racing Thoughts and Ares Legendary wouldve made this run even better

[analog ermine]

Well full rivals was easier than expected

[neat jewel]

That little damage going in blind is crazy, congrats

[olive vigil]

King tide go brrr

[brave vortex]

||post victory stuff, and here cause it limited where to post items, what a clue calling this the "last will of the 3 fates" hinting this early how they would be willingly stepping back from controlling things||

epilogue spoiler, more a discussion about the fates, cause I can't post images elsewhere

[sour widget]

So close to the sub-10 surface again

I wish I'd have gotten fine line just to make myself spend more magick

[crimson birch]

That looks like a hella fun build lol

Oh, but I see the hitch was on cast -- did you get much value out of the Incandescent Aura? I feel like I don't take hitch cast often enough to have a sense for how good it is at spreading hitch compared to other things

[sour widget]

I kinda had to take that unfortunately

Also damn I've never seen gusts in third place but it was actually doing more damage than my cast

And I got cherished keepsake at the final shop so it fully reset lion fang lol

[sour widget]

21/.25s vs 37/.5s

So stronger than my actual cast lol

[analog ermine]

R4 Chronos les goooooo

[analog ermine]

Also I took a crap ton of damage because I had to ||pause||...

[frozen sequoia]

idk what this build was but its my first skull clear so . . ?

i was planning to get the one where it makes all your oattacks like shotgun out + exceptional talent from apollo but this one worked too i guess

[sour widget]

Possessed Array Medea one of the best builds in the game though usually you don’t use it for oattack builds

Since the inherent buff only affects normal attack and special it’s just effectively weaker for that purpose than Mel skull

But wide grin exceptional talent is still a VERY strong build regardless of which skull it’s on

[neat jewel]

Purple Renewed Faith after timing out to Rivals Hecate moment

Charon now my 5th aspect with 50 both routes, Anubis waiting for me to man up and do it on surface (lost to attack speed Auto-Watchers right before Prometheus last attempt)

[covert glade]

Do you know what your splits are for exiting each region?

[frozen sequoia]

STILL no king tide but double oattack plus the mirrored field is like three damage fields so

++ its my first staff surface clear i think . .

[frozen sequoia]

HOW MANY LEVELS DID YOU GET ??

[cursive panther]

the 100% sea star

[frozen sequoia]

this is my first rivals 3 on the surface so i guess its time to do rivals 4 next . . .

[cursive panther]

imagine if you got apollo's legendary

your omega special would hit 4 times

[frozen sequoia]

i was going for it bro my luck is buns

i havent gotten any legendary i WANTED for a while

[neat jewel]

Nergal Strength run after watching both Haelian and Boated do it, still hate the non-Charon axes but gonna go for 45 both routes with Nerg

Also set up for Exceptional Talent, Coffin Nail, and Cutting Edge and got none of it, curse you vow of onion (also stinky origination lol Dazzling Display + Furnace Blast)

[cursive panther]

I dont blame you the rng is so rigged

[warped steeple]

Reaching the surface 1st try

[cursive panther]

When the rent paid is dues

[frozen sequoia]

wdym 900/121 mana ????

how/why did you have to deal like 1 million damage total???????

[analog oasis]

Congratulations

[woven flicker]

Yeah… how do you get that mana count. And that damage count lmao

[analog oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hacking-cheating-hacker-man-gaming-hackers-gif-23941707

[woven flicker]

Aw man, thought you could legit get that mana count somehow

[analog oasis]

You theoretically can just highly unlikely. Also the damage numbers total near or above 1 million which is more than even Grit 3 and Hordes 3 can even total HP

And no damage

And record of 1 Fear...

Think about it

[woven flicker]

No i mean… the mana count is 900/121
That isnt possible at all is it

[analog oasis]

No

My highest was 500 and that was hard to achieve

[woven flicker]

Same guy who claimed they beat their first three runs in the game with the Eris debuff btw

Rip too bad, would have been fun

[analog oasis]

I beat 2nd night at 11 Fear with it so possible

[woven flicker]

And that was your second run ever? xD

[analog oasis]

On that file in particular yes

[woven flicker]

Good job tho

Hardest I have done in the game is like 40 fear

[analog oasis]

Not second ever ever if thats what you mean

Pretty sure I didn't even get out of Erebus in July of 2024

[woven flicker]

Got to first miniboss on my absolutely first run xD

[analog oasis]

I think I died in second room

[woven flicker]

Damn, you got so much better

[analog oasis]

Kinda happens when you spend thousands of hours on EA before making a Switch 2 profile from scratch

[woven flicker]

Guess I just need more hours in the game lol
Not even 200 yet

[analog oasis]

Switch 2 has near 300

EA had a large number

[lofty oriole]

Grandpa’s got some range to his backhand 😶

[agile geode]

super fun supay build

finally got rivals typhon with frenzy 2

[neat jewel]

This takes the cake as the new worst hit I've seen from that fight only rivaled by the rapid fire scythe throw

[lofty oriole]

Legit have never been hit by that attack until today. Honestly surprised with how long it was 🫢

[warped steeple]

And if that wasn’t enough, I’ve cleared hades 1 with 63 heat with the sword in one attempt

[woven flicker]

Yeah right

[warped steeple]

Prior before hades 2

[warped steeple]

Most ppl say finish 64 heat with shield

[warped steeple]

But I did with the sword

[woven flicker]

Aspect of arthur right

[warped steeple]

It’s Zagreus’s own sword I used

[woven flicker]

No recording I can watch?

[warped steeple]

There wasn’t a recording when I played that run

[woven flicker]

Sad, I could surely learn so much

[warped steeple]

I wasn’t planning on recording

[analog oasis]

After doing a 64 Fear that went well, I decided to crank it up more! On the road to 67 with Nergal!

[sour widget]

I could stand to use better routing in Ephyra, usually on a good run I’m like 2:30 out ephyra, 5-5:30 out Thessaly and like 7:30-8 out Olympus. My fastest run was Nyx coat at like 9:48

I also am still playing with frenzy 2 as my only vow and I doubt that’s normal. It’s just muscle memory at this point and I don’t want to break that

[covert glade]

no that is normal. I only have frenzy 2 on for surface. are you familiar with the room size map? I kinda need both good boons and good room locations for a run to even leave ephyra.

my goal is to get to eris by 2:30 but I'll accept anything less than 3 if I have a good build

[sour widget]

Yeah I have the room layouts like 90% memorized but don’t usually bother to think about it

I haven’t gotten to maximizing speed and all

I don’t usually take fig leaf when I probably should

I’m still playing semi-casual

[covert glade]

most of the rooms in the back wall are hard skips haha. but yeah, even getting that time without intentionally going for speed is good

[crimson birch]

There's no point taking Shadows for Surface, it doesn't save you any time

The only reason people take it UW is because of that one Erebus miniboss ending faster

[sour widget]

I use codex pausing and all to give myself time to think so definitely not playing casually but I’m just playing faster the way I normally would

Not intentionally routing certain things or taking stuff that would drastically speed my run up like going for Zag if I’m not confident or always taking non-encounters

[sour widget]

Yeah shadow spiller is annoying with all the guys on perimeter

I have also begun to truly hate getting Charybdis

Oh boy I love when I get the coin flip wrong and go left to right to avoid the orbs and then the tentacles end up on the opposite side

And then I waste time running all the way back over on an already time-waster warden

[covert glade]

just reset, it's not worth it

[sour widget]

See and this is why I’m saying I’m playing semi-casual cause I’ll still fight her cause I’m still improving at the game

I’ll still play a run all the way through just to get the experience

[pliant tiger]

if ur ever planning on submitting runs to the speedrun leaderboards codex pausing isnt allowed unless ur in a room where the in game timer is stopped

[sour widget]

Yeah hence that’s a reason for “semi-casual” is I’ve yet to really get to split second decisions or memorizing everything

I’m sure if I really tried I could get my time down lower without it

[pliant tiger]

main reason its banned is cuz of this (video was in early access but tech still persists even now)

also u can just pause the game normally to give yourself time to think

not just open up the codex

[sour widget]

Yeah but I still check the codex every now and then so just more convenient for muscle memory

Normal pausing isn’t allowed either though right?

[pliant tiger]

normal pausing is allowed

[sour widget]

Oh wait no right

Cause codex pausing lets stuff still move

Damn you Hercules and your slow-ass waddle

Or Artemis randomly taking twice as long to pop up. Though obviously still a net time gain

[pliant tiger]

are u aware of the tech that makes artemis spawn faster

[sour widget]

No

[pliant tiger]

so basically

[sour widget]

Oh also the video won’t load for me so I’ll just take the word it’s something crazy. It might load on my computer but not mobile for some reason

[pliant tiger]

if artemis targets the last enemy of an encounter (not wave) and u eliminate that opponent before she does, she immediately spawns right after

[sour widget]

Got ya so just wait for the big green arrow then kill it

[pliant tiger]

yeah

[pliant tiger]

if u check the vid theres a reason why its banned yeah

[sour widget]

Also I didn’t realize frenzy 2 actually makes stuff spawn faster

Makes sense why it’s normal to see 6 or 8 fear

Frenzy 2 and shadow

[covert glade]

Yes, and bosses get through phases a tiny bit faster. Like prometheus using his flame bs

Its still possible to get sub5 on 0 fear as someone did this week.

[atomic fulcrum]

frenzy makes everything about enemies faster, spawning movement attacking projectiles etc etc

[rotund hamlet]

lol who did that

[frozen sequoia]

most beautiful run ive ever had, got hit by one typhon headbutt somehow but that was genuinely it, the quadruple ospecials genuinely annihilated typhon

each phase took like 2 ospecials and hed change phase again

[covert glade]

someone who just casually doesn't pay attention sometimes and whips out 4:3x times like it's nothing

[sour widget]

“I’m just simply better without even trying”

[cursive panther]

the gods werent feeling so generous this time

[covert glade]

No frenzy is the category this week on the speedcord lol I got a 5:55 but im not gonna try again. I dont wanna get used to slow

[coral hamlet]

Momus with hephastus stronk

[rotund hamlet]

oh of course it was fate 🙄

[sour widget]

Was pretty slow but I made a funny "just intentionally get hit" build

I should have taken born gain but it kept not giving it to me even on rerolls

It would have been way stronger if I got that

I'm sure incandescent would have been on my top damage by far if I got born gain

lol I'm going for speed and it finally offers me this

I'm gonna have to pass it cause I want the infusions

[sour widget]

ISTG I'm gonna stab narcissus I got the damn "what if I don't give you a gift this time"

Just barely short of a new PB. I honestly should have just not taken ares at the shop and waited for hephaestus or zeus

Actually no wait my PB is 8:03 I was thinking of my coat PB which is 8:21

[crimson birch]

Hey ya never know, the other dudes mighta never showed up

Better to get something in there than not eh

[sour widget]

On a charon run and this damn game just refuses to give me apollo or poseidon even though I have both of them

No geyser spout and I've only got a single apollo boon and that's special

It's been giving me nothing but hera and heph even from rerolls and blind bags

[neat jewel]

Now that I think of it why doesn't Phestus have a secondary cast boon based on volcanic eruptions

[sour widget]

Makes little fireballs shoot out around it

Look at how ass the boon options it gave me were aside from landing bridal glow on super nova

No geyser spout, no prom flare, I had to take blinding rush over prom flare cause I didn't even have origination yet

And this still ended up being 4 seconds short of my PB

[neat jewel]

Yeah Super Nova Charon is just insane

[sour widget]

Scuffed as hell

[sour widget]

Well you know whats dumber. That was from the final shop

It gave me YET ANOTHER HERA at the final shop

I even took gold gold gold from echo and BOTH BLIND BAGS GAVE ME HERA

It just sucks when you start a run and get the exact two gods you want then the entire rest of the run gives you the other two that you were forced into taking

Like I don’t dislike Hephaestus or Hera but I’m just trying to get literally ANYTHING from Apollo or Poseidon

[pliant tiger]

should've antlered smh

[sour widget]

Clearly not cause I got hit multiple times lol

But yeah if I didn’t suck

[plucky widget]

IUGHGO thank god this was the first time i'd ever reached typhon and i had the Dionysus boon that hides how much health you have so between the boon the fact ive never seen this fight before and apparently typhon just Not having a health bar I HAD NO IDEA how the fight was going at ALL

[sour widget]

807 damage taken from Typhon is diabolical

[plucky widget]

i just noticed that is crazy

oh 387 health! that explains a lot

[analog oasis]

Did it once again

Iron Core + Psychic Whirlwind FTW

[plucky widget]

🤝 psychic whirlwind ftw

also wait aspect of nergal?? nergal??

[analog oasis]

Yup

Healing despite Vow of Scars

Gigaros Dash + Strength is nearly a guaranteed victory for Erebus

[sour widget]

Game refused to give me any kinda of o-cast buffs again

No geyser or prom flare

[sour widget]

Very scuffed Hel run and I got a clip of why I freaking hate Hel so much sometimes

Twice in a row the damn special threaded the needle and didn't hit a single freaking enemy

Just a horde of small enemies. The perfect thing for special to hitch all of them

And nope. Misses every single one

Oh yeah and I managed to get double hammer with gold gold gold

[cursive panther]

random artemis build

[sour widget]

This run didn't even feel that fast and yet, lo-and-behold, new PB by 12 seconds

Circe really is just build different

[sour widget]

The fine line spam build but HOLY CRAP the allies damage. Look at this it's insane

The thing did 9000 damage before I could even start attacking him

I got sun worshipper in ephyra so holy value

My path of stars was terrible though

No triple strike and I never got ares despite trying

[neat jewel]

Funny how the little spermy things are high damage allies just because of attack speed

Imagine you had Godsent Night Bloom too

[sour widget]

Yeah I've done that before but I doesn't top the 300% damage since I think their attack speed is capped

[neat jewel]

Skill? Dodging? Who needs it? Just get Heinous Affront + Light Smite and destroy the Sirens!

Funny how Heinous Smite turns Sirens from the hardest boss I have to face (no R4) into a formality

[sour widget]

But @neat jewel I'm gonna get to do the funny cause I just got Night Bloom on an apollo nergal run

So I can do both lol

I'm intentionally going for night bloom sun worshipper to go alongside Exceptional talent

ooh and I got a really good path

Also got psychic whirlwind first

The god build is underway

7 minutes past Prometheus not bad

I forgot to kill one of his minions to get sun worshipper and night bloom

[olive vigil]

@crimson birch this one’s also for you (I’ve not had this dominant a performance in a while)

Shimmering rockets hitch went brrr I was set up for both incandescent aura and king tide, got neither but it did not matter

[neat jewel]

Yeah what even triggers them jumping away, is it just time-based?

[sour widget]

Iron Core is so goofy

[neat jewel]

I bet that Eris damage is because those stupid rockets would go anywhere but to the hellfire

[sour widget]

I do really need to get a special but I'm doing the meme and maxing night bloom

[olive vigil]

Nah that’s cause I just played that fight like ass and locked in afterward

Didn’t hurt to have buried treasure and Chrolex allowing me to have 40 boons in spite of debt 2

And special shoutout to grape juice, with the special rebound hammer it was like 1500 damage plus hitch per shot

I love grape juice

[sour widget]

Damn I got all mixed up and ended up just barely missing the sub-9

If only I got the little guy instead of these dudes would have likely gone way faster

Not nearly as goofy as the last run but still second most damage

That was also my surface PB by like 40 seconds

[crimson birch]

COTE

[olive vigil]

My stabby satyr homie double tapping

[neat jewel]

No Island Getaway

[tacit zephyr]

Heck yeah. I thinkthat's my first sub-20 run this game

[graceful epoch]

idk why some people say Hel is bad

[olive vigil]

It takes a while to assemble all the pieces of exodia to make it work

and we can’t all be as based as the sub 7 hel homie

[lofty oriole]

Early Erebus can be annoying without the right boons. Getting PosAtk + Static shock can deffo help it out tho

Although I do think it’s the worst weapon in the game at 65+ Fear

[rotund hamlet]

worse than supay?

[wild lion]

just got the most insane charon run

insane god pool

[coarse island]

Took a little too long to do but this was really fun ngl. 62 all aspects all regions eventually?

[rotund hamlet]

gl with all regions, just uw took me so long

[coarse island]

lol, yea. It's just going to be a thing I do for fun every once in a while.

[wild lion]

dancing knives + controlled burn + hera special = DAMAGE

[pliant gulch]

attempt 22 at becoming night's champion

[covert glade]

Ive been running it on surface... technically I have the wr but I want to set a sub 7 at least before posting. It is awkward to use

[covert glade]

Please set a better wr for hel on the surface

[robust sapphire]

Anyways, I started blastin’

I only wish I had Strength instead of DDs so the funny numbers would be bigger

[copper salmon]

…where’s the timer…

[robust sapphire]

I was using that arcana for added damage to non-omega hence the no gain

[pliant gulch]

two of those attempts were me beating the living daylights out of Time only to lose to time
so, no

[thorn wolf]

I'm guessing it was rivals4?

[sour widget]

Note for the future if you get Poseidon and Apollo (which really should be any Charon build) you really want geyser spout and exceptional talent as well as giga cleaver

[wild lion]

yeah i really wanted those but i couldnt get em sadly

[sour widget]

Since idk if you’re aware but if you have the repeat hits on Charon you can keep throwing down casts and they will continue to get hit by the same omega special

It’s insanely good especially if you get lightning lance

Since you can just stand in one spot and throw casts doing well over 1000 damage at enemies

Exceptional talent or giga cleaver is like an essential thing on Charon since even just having one of them lets you double on your cast during a single ospecial

Can get in like 5 or 6 if you have both

[pliant tiger]

its not essential its just very nice to have

[sour widget]

Well yeah no aspect is strictly defined by a single build, I guess essential isn’t really true, but like having that is an insane difference over not

[pliant tiger]

true

[sour widget]

Since even just being able to add a single extra cast is an insane damage buff

The game hates giving me geyser spout though for some reason

[pliant tiger]

just use rerolls then ez

[sour widget]

I DID

[pliant tiger]

thats just bad rng then

[sour widget]

But the game decided NO you got Apollo and Poseidon NOW WE GIVE YOU ONLY HERA AND HEPHAESTUS

[sour widget]

No exceptional talent

No geyser spout, no prom flare

I had a single Poseidon and it was just the cast

And yet still Charon was Charon and I got a decent time

[pliant tiger]

checked the victory screen

shouldve antlered

[lofty oriole]

Startup is probably a bit slower than Hel but damage ceiling is much higher imo. You're basically sorted after a good Special and a Sprint. Just need to survive the first few Erebus rooms 😂

[lofty oriole]

Oh yeah congrats on the Medea W

[pliant tiger]

breaker rush and hera special next 67f attempt trust

[lofty oriole]

With that said. I had an awful Oceanus experience recently 💀

[lofty oriole]

See, I'll get this and then immediately die to Armoured wailers in the next room 😂

[pliant tiger]

krill issue tbh

[pliant tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-buff-men-gif-26071093

[lofty oriole]

It’s always the bad builds that make it through sirens

[lofty oriole]

Truly

[pliant tiger]

lowk fumbled a potential winning 67f run a few hours ago

legit had everything

hera attack, aphro special with dual moonshot, zeus cast and dem sprint oh yeah and static shock

and then i mistimed a dodge to cerb and i lost half of my hp 💔

proceeded to die like 5 seconds later

[lofty oriole]

Oof. Rough

Mistiming one dodge, making the Siren clear you spent so much time and effort on…meaningless
God I love 67F 🙃🙃

[pliant tiger]

shouldve went with tooth instead of pin tbh

[lofty oriole]

You use Pin in Fields?

[pliant tiger]

only on that specific attempt

cuz i was not that confident that i would get past fields without dying

i lost all my life tax to scylla so like i was giga screwed

[coarse island]

Ty ty.

[lofty oriole]

What’s next on the agenda?

[coarse island]

Idk, keep trying for Max fear.

[lofty oriole]

Back to the 67 Circe grind?

Yeah thought so lmao

[coarse island]

I just did Medea because I wanted to reward myself for getting there

[coarse island]

Also sadly not Circe, I'm going for Melstaff for now and then I'll go for Circe.

[lofty oriole]

After trying for Circe 67F, it’s kinda crazy how much stronger Mel Staff is lol

[coarse island]

Well, I wouldn't say stronger, just easier to make a build that's good for.

[lofty oriole]

Stronger 🫢🫢

[pliant tiger]

circe basically needs storm ring or else gg rip

[coarse island]

Yea

[lofty oriole]

But I see what you mean 😂

You insta have the +40 damage for Mel Staff

[coarse island]

Mhm

[pliant tiger]

plus dual moonshot exists

[lofty oriole]

And then the game refuses to give you Zeus and you settle for Tidal Ring 🫠🫠

[coarse island]

And anything works for it, while with Circe you need a cast and most likely it has to be zeus.

And even then you can get cast scammed by zeus

So it's just a lot more time consuming. I'll go for it after I beat max fear on Melstaff but until then, melstaff is good.

[lofty oriole]

Storm, Blitz, Static and then DoubleStr if you’re lucky. Then you’re good 😂

[pliant tiger]

this always happens to me when i get hera on mel staff

[lofty oriole]

Unless denial screws you over first

[pliant tiger]

i always get scammed out of special

everything but the special

[lofty oriole]

Oof

[pliant tiger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Capcom-capcom-ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-xA4o0IQt3XcsHE40UH

[lofty oriole]

My 67 had the Attack and Special swapped iirc

[pliant tiger]

yeah u had hera attack and zeus special

u had melting so kinda less screwed but still

[lofty oriole]

Shoutouts to Zeus who popped up in Tart endshop

[lofty oriole]

After all these attempts I think Melting put in so much more work than DualMoon does

It’s so good for Fields/Tart

[pliant tiger]

tho for bossing dual is clearly better

[lofty oriole]

Oh clearly yeah

[pliant tiger]

lowk its kinda funny to me that when i get zeus on mel staff i always get offered the cast and when i play circe i always get the attack

always scammed no matter what i play 💔

[thorn hamlet]

Just buy better luck

[lofty oriole]

Game just doesn't want you to beat 67 yet 😭

So that you keep playing

[lofty oriole]

Wow. I never realised you can temporarily stop laser by doing enough damage 😂

[crimson birch]

Like a phase skip type thing similar to p2?

[lofty oriole]

Yeah exactly the same

[crimson birch]

Ooh, interesting

[lofty oriole]

Didn't get the clip after, but he essentially does the shield thing with orbiting time balls after.

Then goes back to laser cutscene

[coarse island]

Who’s doing 33f 😭

[lofty oriole]

Ah I was testing out someone’s 32 vow setup in builds/combat

And yes can confirm having Hordes and Return instantly makes a run less fun 🙃

[coarse island]

Where’d the extra vow come from?!

[lofty oriole]

I might’ve accidentally added another one lol

[sour widget]

They were just feeling a little quirky

[rotund badger]

Back up to 50 fear! This was a fun run, I really like circe (it's why all my runs keep featuring it lol)

This puts me back where I was before I dropped down in fear to learn the rivals Chronos fight, except I can actually win now 😅 I heavily misread a few prompts and lost 400+ hp because of it, eurgh

maybe I'll go back to lower fear now and learn to beat him with Whantler to take less damage 😄

I'm having awful luck with hades boons (started with old grudge lol), but the Unseen Ire + Moros pin combo meant that when I went into P3 and started losing my DDs, I had a ton of invuln time to play with

oh I didn't mention, but I bled HP that entire run, ran through I think 5 DDs by the end of it? Gagged Revival at 16hp/chamber really saved my ass - I picked it up in Erebus and it must have provided several hundred HP in healing by the end of the run

[cursive panther]

He LOVES Circe

[tacit zephyr]

I know this is usually for run finishes but I just had a different type of victory :D

I beat VoR Eris with all DDs left for (iirc) the first time :3

[sour widget]

Took forever to get heinous affront or cutting edge, would have been nice

[sour widget]

If only I got exceptional talent. It never wanted to give it to me. If I got that I bet my heartthrobs would have been even stronger

[sour widget]

Average experience of getting zagreus in region 3

[coarse island]

Great run!! Using my goat circe I see lol. Also about practicing rivals Chronos, didn’t I show you how to make a savestate or am I schizophrenic? If I haven’t or you forgot, I would gladly help you with it! Just DM me if you need help.

[sour widget]

Game refused to give me arc flash or kings ransom and didn't give me static shock until region 4

Went back to fates' whim after running god keepsakes for a while

[graceful epoch]

I'm not much of a speedrunner though, idk if I even have a sub-9 surface with any aspect

[sour widget]

I'm just barely above a sub-9 with nergal

[lofty oriole]

Good progress! And yeah it’s always worth learning to take Wantler once you’re comfortable with Chronos

[neat jewel]

Idk why I find Moros so hard to use but finally got 45 both routes with it done, Fine Line in final shop did 27k damage to Typhon lol

[rotund badger]

You did, thank you! I really appreciated that, and I should go back and start doing that more 😅 I savestated a handful of runs, but I should sit down and spend a few days just doing that fight on repeat until I get better!

I really like Circe, my perhaps most sincere wish for a fix in this game is for it to be compatible with stuff like Poseidon and Ares’ casts

[covert glade]

Not yet at least! The truth is a lot of surface speed running dies as soon as you get to ephyra and see the room layout

For hel, its even easier to know when because you need poseidon or bust.

[crimson birch]

I feel like half the time Ephyra gives me false hope, because I'll be like "sick god pool!" and then they'll offer me all the wrong stuff. Or it dies in Thessaly for Thessaly reasons.

Maybe rerolls stronger on Surface? 🤔

[noble ginkgo]

didn't like the Aspect of Morrigan at all, this was one of my worst runs

[covert glade]

Yep but you wont know if you dont even get out of ephyra haha

[covert glade]

Just hit lol

[minor locust]

I prefer artemis version more than morigan :v

[graceful epoch]

I barely play surface in general so there's that as well

[lofty oriole]

Wow. I might have found my worst weapon yet 💀

Tfw you’re trying for the Omega special damage challenge and you find out you’ve barely used it 🫠

[noble ginkgo]

no special boon at all? should've picked at least something

Anubis strat is basically:
use cast first
then regular attack on the same spot (don't bother with omega)
then keep spamming special as it's very fast

[neat jewel]

Kid named Denial:

Also Oattack is very strong on Anubis

Also I think you missed the 62 fear on that guy lmao

[noble ginkgo]

huh, 62f is impressive, yes

[neat jewel]

I played it like Mel Staff for a long time just spamming Ospec but Oattack is actually very strong

Much harder to play though since you have to think about a lot more

Dash strike to apply the circular zone then dash to apply the omega arc

I hate it but it works very well

[thorn wolf]

wdym you hate it 😔

anubis is such a cool staffspect

[noble ginkgo]

idk, Anubis already melts with regular attack w/ fire strike, then you just spam special for even more damage + origination

[crimson birch]

62 is every vow except Void, so in that context

[noble ginkgo]

BUT I feel like you need to cast first, to create a safe zone in the center of your Anubis death zone, otherwise the pulled in enemies will be mobile and will hit you

[thorn wolf]

what z-kid is saying is optimal play for anubis

[neat jewel]

Yeah it's really cool but I hated using the attack, I didn't feel like I was doing it very well, whereas with Dual Moonshot Ospec spam it's just monkey brain bang bang bang

[thorn wolf]

lol

[noble ginkgo]

it helps if you can get a freeze cast

[neat jewel]

Didn't help that I got no Pyro Tech so I had to watch 999 scorch tick down slowly the entire time

[thorn wolf]

aphro cast works funny with anubis special

[neat jewel]

Oh yeah you're right about cast though I forgot to mention you can cast in the middle of this combo which is probably optimal

[frank mist]

i tried really hard to throw at chronos for some reason

but p tech burn with 20% extended family, 70% fang, 24% uncommon grace, giga dash etc

[lofty oriole]

If only I had the option to lmao

Having no good gain in Erebus at 62 can be a bit annoying

[lofty oriole]

Higher fear really changes my opinion on a lot of weapons tbh

I love Supay Charon and Momus but playing them on high fear is just bleh 🤢

[thorn wolf]

lol fair

[river yoke]

65 Fear Surface

I only had 18 failed attempts

[river yoke]

I learned this is also the WR speed for 65 fear surface according to Crossroads

[noble ginkgo]

p. array + born gain gang

[neat jewel]

By almost a whole minute too wow

[river yoke]

This WR was legitimately an accident

But sadly I don't have a vod so I can't submit it

[lofty oriole]

Many congrats on the W 👌

Time for the 67 grind now yeah? 😄

[river yoke]

Absolutely

I'll miss my persistence tho

[lofty oriole]

Having no arcana makes such a difference 💀

Going from 67 and back to 62s and 65s feels so different

[river yoke]

Yeah

I'll die a lot
And like
A LOT

Also yes, fear IS a joke to me

[tidal furnace]

I'm not good enough for any no hit runs, but I lucked into this decently high dodge build and Hermes legendary. I had a fat wallet through the 2nd half of my run which made for a hilariously low amount of dmg taken. I'm curious to hear about your highest % dodge runs.

[river yoke]

Fear this high was never meant to even be considered was it