h2-victory-boasting

[worldly moat]

(frinos will be everywhere but where he needs to be and will eat the cerb fireballs point blank and blow you up)

[worn nimbus]

yeah he does that

[eternal ocean]

WHY

[worldly moat]

frinos my goat

[worn nimbus]

i need to murder

[molten hamlet]

Once again.. Chronos just beats me around... Also, Godsent Skyfall is kinda great.

[worn nimbus]

nice bro

[worn nimbus]

it was faster attack built with the fact i needed to do a acheviment for shields

[worn nimbus]

what one is that

charon?

[simple dagger]

Wasn't intending to do my first "Untouchable" clear, was just keepsake levelling, but I'll take it

also, Flash Fry of all things in top 4 highest damage, only took it cause "Fates Whim" run and nothing else offered was good

[crimson birch]

Flash Fry is dece yo!

[prime cipher]

Me taking Dionysus health upgrade because it was the last fated thing I needed from him:

Oh well... I hope this doesn't ruin me, I'll make sure to take extra health every time just in case...

Me at the end:

"oh"

[simple dagger]

Took it once, died out of nowhere cause no track of much HP I had, never again do I intend to take it

[prime cipher]

I mean yeah that's what I was expecting...

So I was extra careful and made sure to grab as many centaur hearts from hermies as possible

[eternal ocean]

Yes

[worn nimbus]

holy hell

[timber musk]

currently doing a run lmk what yall think of the results

[prime cipher]

I think it helped that when I downed him I did so much damage he immediately initiated his second spawn of kids, and I killed all of them before they hatched

[lofty oriole]

65 Fear Mel Staff!

[rocky steppe]

67f when

[lofty oriole]

Never 💀

[lofty oriole]

I did make it to Scylla but played it super poorly 😭

[lofty oriole]

Not even close 🫢🫢

Gj

[rocky steppe]

Shame plum got good otherwise he'd still be the worst 67f player

[analog oasis]

Got this far on Medea

[lofty oriole]

Lmao

[analog oasis]

Won with tourches

[prime cipher]

It was my first attempt at rival typhon too 😭 (Is there a way to tell other than the fear tab?)

[covert glade]

no omega moves on this build

[rocky steppe]

No

[covert glade]

now to get sub 5...

[prime cipher]

dang rip

[rocky steppe]

The way Mel staff should be played

[lofty oriole]

Nice speed

[covert glade]

for speedruns? you can do either... it just depends on what attack boon you end up with

[lofty oriole]

Zeus atk + any %spe. Sorted 💛

[crimson birch]

Are there people who build into omega on Mel staff speeds? That's mildly surprising to hear (I don't speedrun)

[covert glade]

me lol

[lofty oriole]

I feel like it’ll waste a lot of time channeling no? Compared to just smacking blitz continuously 🤔

[covert glade]

if i get apollo attack, i try to go omega moves but if i get zeus, i go blitz. mirrored thrasher is non negotiable

[lofty oriole]

Ah fairs

[covert glade]

yep exactly

[rare parcel]

Did I get Winter Harvest before Typhon just because funny animation? Yes
Was it worthy? Also yes

[lofty oriole]

Nice 35F victory 👏

[cursive panther]

Honestly I performed very well here

[rotund badger]

Weird boast, but I died to Chronos with Time III! It's not as good as winning, but I had him on P3 below half health, and it's better than dying to time running out on region 1 or 2 like normal 😅

[fluid quest]

unlocked aspects after this one, finally

very "hold attack to win"

[analog oasis]

This was my best with Medea

[prime cipher]

Get Wrecked Chronos

[olive vigil]

blew the doors off rivals chronos, feels good man. hereditary bane doubled my damage lol

[analog oasis]

I maxed out blessings page once

[prime cipher]

YOOO the animation is different when you still have the dress

[rocky steppe]

Yo you got a capture card

[analog oasis]

Nope, still gotta do the 30 second replays

Meaning this wasn't fully captured unfortunately

Imagine if that Eris Blessing Mechanic was a vow

[prime cipher]

isn't that just the vow of scars?

[crimson birch]

I'm gonna make my way back to where I was at least, I swear it

[analog oasis]

No

Blessing of Strife

[crimson birch]

Blessing of Strife is more like Vow of Pain, not Scars

[analog oasis]

The "Blessing" of Strife is a debuff inflicted by Eris upon entering the first area of a region along the Underworld route. It causes Melinoë to take +20% increased damage, and this penalty increases by an additional +5% for each subsequent encounter cleared. The debuff persists throughout the night and can only be removed by either completing or failing the current night.

The "Blessing" of Strife can only occur during the first 10 nights of gameplay. It is avoidable, as Eris will not appear if both of the following conditions are met before entering the first area of a region:

Melinoë has exactly or less than 50% Health (current health)
Melinoë has no active Death Defiance Death Defiance effects

Im saying if this was a vow max fear would be way harder

Near impossible even

[crimson birch]

Just take Discordant Bell z1 ;D

[analog oasis]

Jpom is what I take

Then Discordant z2

[prime cipher]

My bad I got the name wrong

[warped ocean]

i beat 40 fear with -60% magic use from chaos

[rare parcel]

Not even then Heartthrobs make it to the board 😭

[shadow crypt]

50 fear surface 🙂

[warped ocean]

1 time really

[rocky steppe]

Timer 1 surface and typhon bones is crazy

[shadow crypt]

haha I had no idea how long it was going to take with all the extra vows

[warped ocean]

time was like my first vow 😭

[rocky steppe]

Time 2 is 7 minutes per region, time 3 is 5

[shadow crypt]

as in, the previous run I'd done was 24 fear, without all the extra enemies + shields + revenants, so when adding all of those in to 50 fear I didn't know how much longer it'd take to kill everything

[warped ocean]

that is a wild jump LOL

[shadow crypt]

I meant how long for me to kill everything, I've done time 2/3 before (without most of the other vows)

[warped ocean]

though ive been climbing from 32 and just cleared 40 with mid difficulty today

[shadow crypt]

haha 24 was for the statues, 50 was as many as I could add without the ones I feel are unfun like forfeit

[warped ocean]

should try 62 👍

[ebon yacht]

lovely cast dmg build, didnt get zues/apollo duo tho so thats sad

[shadow crypt]

Is that everything besides void?

[worldly moat]

Yeah

Easier than youd expect

[warped ocean]

yeah you already did 50

[shadow crypt]

But all my boons and healing ahaha

[desert scaffold]

I'm confused about what this crit dam is. No raki no Night Arcana. I had Vital Signs but it might not work on the last Typhon's phase. Here is my build.

[warped ocean]

Does it really matter its free damage xd

[rocky steppe]

It was vital signs

[desert scaffold]

It was Typhon's last phase, so the Typhon's hp must be lower than 80% I guess.

[rocky steppe]

Each phase is calculated as its own separate healthbar

[lethal flicker]

Not actually true but

the final final for realsies this time final phase after babality is a completely new typhon with a 10k health bar

every other phase is just a 25% gate on a 65k health bar

[desert scaffold]

Oh nice, thank you guys

[lethal flicker]

Huh, Typhon does actually have more hp than chronos, even Unrivalled, not that it feels that way

[unkempt pendant]

highest DPS run i've done yet. chronos melted in ~5 seconds

[lofty oriole]

65F Circe. Getting more comfortable with Antler in Tart.
Scary ending though, almost threw P3 so hard 🫠

[unkempt pendant]

im terrible

[quick vigil]

Surely you mean terribly good 🔥

[rancid flower]

Yeah Typhon just couldnt hurt me lol

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwzLDAsMCwwLDEsMiwwLDYsMCwyLDAsMTJd

This was my vow loadout

[worn nimbus]

idk even know what this build was

[steady trout]

Gotta love the full arcana... Circe's keepsake is goated

[gentle dune]

+How many dual boons you said you wanted?
-Yes. With a Clanging Special as well, please.

The fight literally lasted 2 minutes.

[timber musk]

now this ended up being a fun build, was trying for an Apollo/Hera run but it ended up being a Heph run

wasnt able to get master conductor but I still had a lot of fun using Aspect of Moros

might end up doing another moros run

[snow nova]

sub 6 min on 3rd speed run attempt

[covert glade]

Nice!!! getting sub 6 so quickly is awesome. Medea is the only aspect with a sub 4 clear so the sky is the limit

[midnight mist]

PB for fastest run w/ thanatos (havent tried speedruns with other aspects really)

[lofty oriole]

62 Fear Momus. Props to Vital signs and Wantler giving 69% crit chance on first hit 🙏

[rancid flower]

@worldly moat meant to send this

[half gate]

Ez af

[timber musk]

did a poseidon/hestia build with aspect of Moros

[worldly moat]

Lmao nice

[rare parcel]

50 Fear with Circe

[crimson birch]

nose bleeding as I struggle up a one-meter slope: "I'll... I'll get there... one day..."

[rancid flower]

Got a Fear PB and Surface Speed PB in the same run 😎

Didnt have room to pin them but I had Tall Order AND Rallying Cry

[cursive panther]

I destroyed with the Omega Boost

[rocky steppe]

Fleece 😔

[eternal ocean]

16-

HOW

[cursive panther]

Number 1 Zagreus
Number 2 those enemies are annoying as hell

Also was on 5 Fear so I took alot of damage from the bosses mainly

[crimson birch]

Imagine if it gave you more boost the more damage you took

Okay so I checked the SS from the PB I got before my break and this is technically PB by two seconds lmao

What a bizarre run to PB on. Genuinely. Look at this. What the hell.

[rocky steppe]

16?

[eternal ocean]

1626 DAMAGE TAKEN

[rocky steppe]

Oh

[analog oasis]

Used up most DDs, then Athena refill

I'd guess

[cursive panther]

yep I lost 2 from Zag, then lost one during Thessaly and then Athena refilled and then lost another one from Typhon

[eternal ocean]

Cool, eos might not suck

[coarse island]

This Nintendo Switch holds the brightness of a thousand suns and should be kept as a sacred being from now on.

Also nice run lol

[warped ocean]

Had 1600 after zone 3 with nergal before 😂

With strength

[analog oasis]

Switch 2 is worse

[coarse island]

I find that slightly hard to believe since that’s so bright and may also be a switch 2 but that’s pretty funny if so lol.

[analog oasis]

Here's my brightness about ¾

Last image of it on camera roll

Same brightness setting in darkness

[coarse island]

Ngl I was hoping brighter but it really doesn’t matter lol. I just find the pic funny.

[warped ocean]

Switch 67 🔥

[warped ocean]

Do i suck for dying with this

Cherished heirloom is such a bait

[vale lark]

on my quest to get heph legendary boon i got this run but didnt get the legendary 😫

[lofty oriole]

Yoooo let’s go 👏

Chaos being the highest damage dealer 💀💀

[regal shard]

almost beat frei's record :(

[harsh mica]

Great chaos above

Why use magic when you can BONK?

[timber musk]

thank you I got the OLED model for the battery comes with a brighter screen

[desert scaffold]

The Beach Boy is really fun

[coarse island]

That’s why it’s like that. I have a OLED switch too but I never played at max brightness in the dark lol.

[timber musk]

I have it on max and adaptive brightness is on also

so depending on the lighting it will get brighter or darker

[mild blaze]

Thats normal. Which boon u put on attack

I had apollo and ot slaps

[rare parcel]

It was the Maimed Curse... I really needed to use the attack when I had it and I had Life Tax so sure, why not? 💀

[desert scaffold]

Hey guys, try fast omega build with Sudden Burst and Heroic Racing Thoughts. But Ripple Effect seems does not trigger double moves. Anyone know how?

[rocky steppe]

You reached the max internal cooldown on the moves

[lofty oriole]

Yeah fairs. Gratz on the 53F anyways 😛

[rare parcel]

Now trying 50F with Circe on Surface and I don't think I'll be scaling further on Fear

I only did Circe because wow it feel so safe

[desert scaffold]

Oh, I take Metallic Droplet for better but it's just worse in this case.

[midnight mist]

Strange run, first time i built around a hex in awhile and it ended up absolutely melting chronos. DPS was a problem for a lot of the run but it ended up being a solid defensive build w/ daze cast/gust sprint/dodging/snow queen despite not even using gale

[eternal ocean]

Had beach ball for thr memes🤣

[oak stirrup]

first time doing VoR II and 32F I can't imagine how people do max fear, I was already cutting it close on time with 32 and a dare I say decent build
I'm a little scared of 24F surface 😨

[worldly moat]

Jeez no wonder you struggled your vows are abysmal

Using grit, hoards, pain at 32 is dubious work

[oak stirrup]

I found them to be some of the lesser evils of the vows, they're certainly annoying and make things a lot harder but they're not unfair

[worldly moat]

Grit hoards and pain generally are avoided until 40+

Since they make the most difference on the run

[oak stirrup]

I did feel I had to spend a lot longer in each room, but I'd rather do that than have to give up a bunch of boons with denial or forfeit
Frenzy also doesn't sound fun

and I'm still using death defiances so pain is just fine

although I am a little impressed with myself first trying 32F

[worldly moat]

Frenzy makes timer easier and is muscle memory so it becomes free, denial is super easy to deal with an most of the time is actually a good thing

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwwLDAsMiwwLDIsMCwwLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd
This is a super simple 32 setup thats just comfort with frenzy and bosses that lets timer still be a breeze and the other vows do functionally nothing major

And for 24 you can just do frenzy, timer, rivals all maxed and its there

[oak stirrup]

How does frenzy make the timer easier? I just thought I'd get hit a lot more since the enemies would attack more too, no? or does it only affect their movement speed?
And I haven't actually thought about denial that way, you might be right

[worldly moat]

It spawns the enemies faster

Which is super noticeable

And if they're across the map they'll get to ya faster

[crimson birch]

Are the boss invincibility/transition phases faster too?

[oak stirrup]

Neat

[worldly moat]

Maybe?? Id think so

[crimson birch]

I feel like they are but I have crap timesense so

[worldly moat]

I haven't turned off frenzy since forever so :P

[oak stirrup]

I don't have max rivals unlocked yet though, so I'll probably just take fangs again. I don't really know why it gives 5F since it doesn't seem that bad

[worldly moat]

It can have some mean combos and paired late fear with hoards its an issue

But with no hoards its free

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsNSwwLDAsMiwwLDYsMCwxLDIsOF0=
If you wanna skip frenzy still and only do rivals3 then this is super easy for 24 surface

[oak stirrup]

just one more good surface run until I have all three statues then 🙏

[crimson birch]

Imagine an entire swarm of armored fish with, idk, what are the worst possible fangs combos for them

[worldly moat]

Uhhh fast and vacuume probably

[oak stirrup]

I only have rivals 2 so far lol, I'll just try frenzy and see how it goes

[worldly moat]

Or like the orbital one that one is stinky

[dry mist]

not even close

i sure love abusing Tranquil Gain with Wolf Howl

[ivory hearth]

Death to Chronos.

Second phase used up all if not 2 of my DDs cause of the instakill move

I hadn't gotten to it up until that point so I was still getting my bearings on just what the hell was going on

[manic relic]

Congrats on the first win

[ivory hearth]

thanks!

this game is fantastic

hard to say whether I prefer the H1 or H2 yet though

[coarse island]

Good job!!! I remember how happy I was beating Chronos for my first time. A lil tip though, use strength OR death, not both. It’s mainly because it’ll save you 4 grasp and they don’t really work well together, you get one or the other. I did the same thing at the start though so it’s honestly fine.

[charred zodiac]

New pb even with figleaf scam

[ivory hearth]

Fair enough. I was thinking it would be nice to have once I eventually run out, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense not to have both

[copper salmon]

we have officially found one use for tranquil gain

[clear oak]

2hp lol

[covert glade]

Hey good job on the white antler finish 👌 you have a lot of room to grow here! Sub 6 will be the big hurdle. I am still working on sub 5 but those times really need good rng

[charred zodiac]

Thx

[vale lark]

fastest run lesgo

huge dubs

[rotund hamlet]

you dont have to hold jpom the entire run btw

[vale lark]

idk that one run i lost dad's boon for some reason

[rotund hamlet]

effects only go away if you break fates whim

[vale lark]

ahh i see

[worldly moat]

and it doesnt look like you did

unseen ire and howling soul are both still there

but yeah every fates whim keepsake stays active when you remove em as long as whim isnt broken

[vale lark]

lowk i didnt even know what hades boon i got lmao

[worldly moat]

you didnt press cast and notice smth different 🥀

[rotund hamlet]

200 damage fireball unnoticed

[vale lark]

now why would i use cast when i had a lv 12 wave with a chance of double

[worldly moat]

cuz furies and orig

[rotund hamlet]

why not 💔

[worldly moat]

its ares cast wait i understand 🥀

still furies is 30% global

[vale lark]

orig was froth and weak from rushing didnt need cast

[worldly moat]

^^

[vale lark]

idk if i had furies on i gotta check

[worldly moat]

why wouldnt you 🥀

[vale lark]

expermienting

this was my loadout

[vale lark]

didnt have furies twin

[manic relic]

always cast its literally only benefits no downsides

[vale lark]

next time

[cinder hull]

Another Mel Coat 62. How original.

[crimson birch]

Huh, and it was an attack-centric build

[worldly moat]

Strength and death 😭

[rare parcel]

[cinder hull]

Kinda, I like going for Spesh builds more but the Hammers kinda dictated where the build went the whole run lmao

[crimson birch]

Hey, it did work!

[cinder hull]

True. Get to keep my winstreak up lol. I’ve got one now with Gigaros so it should be a win if I’m not stupid

[charred zodiac]

Both arachne achievements in one run

[tawdry wyvern]

Is me, or is the best thing to do versus Unrivaled Chronos' 3rd phase is to just blind fire?

I guess it helped I had Total Eclipse, but I have much more fun with Unrivaled Typhon.

[rocky steppe]

Uh no not really

[rancid flower]

Run went awry when I was forced to sacrifice Zeus special for Hephaestus special, but I still won (New fear PB too)

The combination of heroic Tough Gain, big Circe, Athena cast, Worry Free, Self Healing, and a ton of centaur hearts made me just not die

[crimson birch]

New Surface PB! ....it's Selene again. I don't know why I always get my cross-aspect PBs on Selene

[rocky steppe]

Use nyx or shiva you'll go way faster I promise

[crimson birch]

Shiva is my slowest coat on both routes :)

I just don't got the brain for it

[rocky steppe]

Fair

Shiva is my fastest coat both ways iirc

[crimson birch]

As expected :P

[rocky steppe]

Got a 6.28 uw and an 8 minute smth sf

[crimson birch]

Someone better playing the seed I got would have for sure gotten sub 8 if not faster

Or well, at least low 8

[gilded ravine]

hit a funny bug where chronos repeatedly spawns over and over

[rancid flower]

New Fear PB

[rotund badger]

cut back on the fear a bit to harvest nightmare from the testaments of night. Took antler on a whim because I'd already beaten my fated rival for this run, and had fun with the massive DPS boost!

[crimson birch]

Gramma harvesting Typhon is always sick as hell too

[rotund badger]

yeah I didn't actually notice the special harvest for typhon because I was midair when it happened, but watching her harvest prometheus was badass, and she really mowed through the health pools of the two minibosses in the last region!

[rotund badger]

doubted my ability to beat typhon with only 30 hp so i opted to not take antler last region. Shouldn't have doubted myself...

that said it was still a curb stomp so heyo

[ebon yacht]

HOLY MOLY, Never in my life did I think Id get the untouchable title

[lethal flicker]

Not even with gale

Or paid dues

Or snow queen, dang

[ebon yacht]

I have played this game too much /j

Cin circle was absolutely the most helpful

[gilded ravine]

completed the 62f 48/48

[sharp pewter]

65f all aspect next

[gilded ravine]

nuh uh

im considering dipping from h2 atp lmao

[ebon yacht]

at this point maybe i should try farming all the titles I havent gotten yet

[pliant tiger]

fr

played too much ngl, the con of having 600+ hours on this game

[pliant tiger]

also the fck kinda build is this

[rotund badger]

that seems like a reasonabke charon build, no?

[pliant tiger]

no

[rotund badger]

cardio gain is an odd choice admittedly

okay i mean the special and gain are odd

[covert hull]

First win with eris debuff on night :D

[harsh mica]

Feeling special

[covert hull]

Thats a lot of explosions

[lethal flicker]

4 waves for the low low cost of.... 75 mana

[charred zodiac]

are these numbers right?

[lethal flicker]

Yes, Heaven strike scales at +15 per pom minimally, but Flouish only scales by +10

[charred zodiac]

interesting

[lethal flicker]

Flourish just has bigger base and rarity values

it's not the only one like that either

Hestia strike poms by +15, 10, 10, 10, then 5 thereafter, but her flourish scales by 10, 10 and then 5 thereafter

[eternal ocean]

Extended family 40% 🤣

[coarse island]

Interesting, it’s not that big of a deal but that’s cool to know!

[eternal ocean]

Closer than I would've liked...

[lethal flicker]

It means that flame strike often adds more scorch than flourish does, but obviously that's dwarved by the hitrate of whatever moves are on your weapon

[eternal ocean]

Worry free

[lethal flicker]

What was your final hp total?

[eternal ocean]

142/616

[coarse island]

Btw beat my 3rd ever 62! I really wanna wantler next 62 but idk if I’ll be able to lol. Anyways, I’m getting better!!

[neon grail]

62f Hel redo. Cold Storage on special is really balanced

[signal saddle]

A weird run I had, I waited so long to have an actual attack boons that in the end I chose to get rid of it and go danaïd dagger on Chronos
Also Judgement run, and 1st time against rivals cerberus

[eternal ocean]

Yeah lad stood no chance🤣

My fastest run yet

[jade jetty]

First 50 fear win!

[lethal flicker]

Driveby olympian damage build

[eternal ocean]

Another in the books

[lethal flicker]

13 water and 9 boons and the clownboat cheesesack known as Posideon still wouldn't offer Water Fitness

[rancid flower]

This is by far one of my most wild runs ever. By pure chance, I happened into an Arachne dress run. I got the one that increases cast damage by 100% and immediately after got a shop with armor. Then, I got Hephaestus Trusty Shield. I used Arachne's keepsake for Oceanus. I kept the dress for almost the entire Rivals Chronos fight.

And this was all for my first 40 fear win lmao

[rotund hamlet]

dang actually an omega cast run

[rancid flower]

I love omega cast on Circe 😍

[cursive panther]

considering that things are getting harder, im gonna start upgrading all my weapons to max

[crimson birch]

No okay this is better, it's not faster than the Selene time I got the other day but it's an aspect PB? Shocking Loss showed up on the Summit... I wish it had shown up earlier 😔

[grave needle]

Heph goes so blasting hard

I love going all heph its so fun always

Hestia never showed up sadly

[warped ocean]

smithy rush only when

[analog ermine]

My final two runs of the story were also my fastest and best, feels nice

[eternal ocean]

eos and persephone😭

Two mid aspects that get overshadowed by broken ones

[worldly moat]

Bro what they're both great 😭

Eos is great at high fear and persephone is mel skull with more levels

[rancid flower]

This is one of my sketchiest runs ever. I really shouldn't have won

New PB tho

[coarse island]

And can actually use wide grin without losing out on a ton of damage (wide grin is mid but I gotta mention the lil details).

[regal shard]

eh, fast enough

[crimson birch]

Is this not simply just blazingly fast for 62F

[quartz lintel]

Fun run

[lethal ice]

my new personal best fear level

[quartz lintel]

My main goal is to blow up

[ebon yacht]

VOID 4 RUN DONE! This was the most painful title to get so far....

[quick vigil]

Epic !
You're doing a "get all titles" challenge ? That's definitely something I would like to do myself

[ebon yacht]

yup im trying to get all titles, atleast all the titles i havent gotten yet

[quick vigil]

Very nice. Do you have a list of them and the conditions needed somewhere ?

[ebon yacht]

theres a couple reddit threads on it

[desert scaffold]

Couldn't get King Tide, but still fine with this build.

[fast hazel]

Managed to get Sea Star lvl.15, 100% chance of double reward! Boy was it fun

[ebon yacht]

I cant believe there isnt a haha yes! emote I can react with

[lofty oriole]

Parray + Cardio gain 💛

[rare parcel]

And of course, for skull surfing

https://tenor.com/view/skull-car-cigarette-gif-4308401115547052449

[lethal flicker]

When hades 2 was announced I would've never guessed I'd be spending part of the time joyriding in a giant skull dressed like persephone with exotropia

[thorn hamlet]

this felt extremely op

[lethal ice]

new personal best fear, oh my god Hestia and Morrigan is da goat

[covert glade]

surface wr for circe

[coarse island]

Gg’s!! How hard would you think it would be compared to other fear levels? Idk why I’m asking this but I’m just kinda curious.

[ebon yacht]

I havent tried max frenzy so that I cant say, but of all the ones I tried its def hard to manage, not having wayword son, persistance, orginiation, strength, dd or lovers means you have to have you early game on point, there's no room for tanking

[coarse island]

That’s fair. I’m assuming it might be near 35-40 fear? Not quite sure though.

Bosses are going to be quite easy though I feel. Since it’s not rivals at all.

So, probably harder than 32-35f but definitely easier than fresh file.

[ebon yacht]

oh well if u have other fear on its going to be a lot harder yeah, I only did max void and no other fear mainly to get the who needs arcana title

[rocky steppe]

With no other fear it's decently easy, but from what i've read they're not as experienced as us so the difficulty is understandable

[coarse island]

Fair, still a great accomplishment though.

I just know that I’m probably never going for 67f 😭

[analog oasis]

Void 4 is a pain on high fear

[crimson birch]

I didn't even survive Chronos when I got the no-arcana title myself, so hey, congrats :)

[analog oasis]

Yeah. Gotta get god luck and not get hit

[coarse island]

With my aggressive play style that I really gotta smash with a rock until the habit dies, I cannot stop getting hit so it’ll take a while lol.

[ebon yacht]

I must say tho, all arcana title is far worse than no arcana title

[coarse island]

Wdym?

[analog oasis]

My first 67 win

[ebon yacht]

Needs Circe rng, thats the only way to get 25 arcana cards in one run

[crimson birch]

You don't need them in one run

[coarse island]

Coolio. For me to beat 67 I just gotta get way better at every skill set in the game.

[crimson birch]

You just need to have used them at all

It does not need to be in the same single run, you misunderstood the wording

[ebon yacht]

for the title? titles are run based no?

im not talking about achievement

[crimson birch]

Ah, got it 🫡

[analog oasis]

Practice 62 first many times, then slowly turn on Void

[coarse island]

I’ve beaten 62 3 times so far. And I haven’t gotten out of Erebus yet on 65.

It’s going to take a while

[analog oasis]

I only beat 67 twice outta 120ish runs

And none on surface

[pliant tiger]

and u still didn't record

[vale lark]

i feel so good rn my heart was pounding when i realised theres a 3rd phase

athena came in clutch lmao i had 0 defiances going into tartarus

[pliant tiger]

timer is crazy wtf

[worldly moat]

44 minutes how 😭

[crimson birch]

Based on those HP/MP numbers, probably was farming in Fields

Please give me a cookie if that is correct

[charred zodiac]

Was this a toula only chronos or something?

[vale lark]

no I think chronos alone was 10 to 15 minutes

[worldly moat]

wtf

[vale lark]

am i goated chat

[midnight mist]

Pb for fastest thanatos clear, chronos did not take 10 min

[worldly moat]

36 miniutes 🥀

[midnight mist]

What's tragic is that this would have been an absolutely banger Charon run lmao

Are you stopping for a smoke break in the middle of your runs

[vale lark]

no one told me ||theres a phase where chronos turns her into a child||

[worldly moat]

well yeah its a fun surprise

[vale lark]

no im js slow especially in surface runs

[manic relic]

Are you running like grit hordes and stuff?

[vale lark]

grit wards uhhh menace

return denial and rivals

no hordes hordes will make me slower prolly 1 night per hour lmao

[manic relic]

Not being able to run time 3 and enjoy the free fear is crazy

[vale lark]

ill do timed runs without any of the other fear see how fast i can get

[manic relic]

Not running frenzy is effectively slower, so if you wanna practice going faster frenzy helps

[molten hamlet]

On circe... casts put in work.

[lethal flicker]

Kabooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

[analog oasis]

When I get a Capture card, I will record and title it in your honor. For now though I have a poor setup

[worldly moat]

no orig 🥀

nice derust though since i havent played in a week, strength no lovers ofc

and all that gramps damage is him doing the cutscene attack a 2nd time so it was just unreactable 🥀

[ruby nova]

Not sure if I shared the first one already, but it's quite funny to me that the two surfacce wins i got are both thanks to eos

[thorn geyser]

Man, a high level rapture ring is so powerful

[covert glade]

Jpom in general 💪

[cinder hull]

Mel Axe 62 rerun

[carmine lance]

Recently did a challenge play through. It started as me just wanting to see if I could do a scorch only playthrough(the answer was yes). Then turned into a challenge to get as high a damage number on a single category as I could. Pretty happy with it turned out. The only damage that wasn't scorch was breaking the barrier in the first region and enemies dying from traps. I turned on the timed fear option because I didn't want to grind in the first region for forever as that didn't sound fun to me.

[thorn wolf]

vrey nice! I'm guessing olympic slam is the damage dealt from falling on enemies? (on mount olympus)

[carmine lance]

That must be it, I couldn't think of what it was. Yeah there were a few times I did that without thinking, when I was thinking I made sure to avoid landing on enemies.

[crimson birch]

I got sheeped at the last moment on Hec because I was a dumdum who got stunned by Total Eclipse, but it's still a Nyx PB

[rare parcel]

Ok, I had to try 50F with my favorite aspect

[coarse island]

Cmon man....

I wanted to do a funny lil silly max void run because I saw someone do one today and it nearly turned into my first hitless run 😭

[neon mango]

Does this mean I got a hitless run?

Don't remember if I got hit before getting the dress

[lethal flicker]

Your damage board is empty

[rocky steppe]

Consequences of learning 62

[regal shard]

yooo another crimson dress saver. Gg

[coarse island]

Yup

Should've done rivals 😭

[regal shard]

no because of gale and probably lovers? if not there is still gale and daze

it's damageless

[rare parcel]

Yeah, Persephone + JPom is absurd

[timber musk]

tried to do a cast build didn't work too well but im gonna keep trying tomorrow

[rocky steppe]

Dem cast isn't the best cast for it, try zeus cast

[timber musk]

I didnt get Zeus and was using Jewled pom so couldn't reroll

[rocky steppe]

In that case, the three best are zeus, aphro, or hestia, otherwise you can go for an apollo ocast build

[timber musk]

ill do another one and try and aim for one of those didnt get rapture ring when I did aph doors tho which was annoying but tolerable

[covert glade]

Zeus is best for sure

[cinder hull]

First and prob only speedrun of the day. Would've been sub-6 if I hadn't gotten Fig scammed, but oh well

[crimson birch]

That was SO CLOSE. Dio, bro, how could you do this to your baby cousin

Also holy moly those levels lol. Did it get Bridal Glow'd and then Pom Pom Pom'd?

[cinder hull]

Eyup

JPom into BGlow into Echo made for a very funny amount of levels lol

[crimson birch]

You even had time to take the Hades room in Tartarus, if I'm reading that right?

[rocky steppe]

Yep looks like ire there

[crimson birch]

I'm assuming the Ire was jpom, based on the remaining Life Tax and the damage taken

[cinder hull]

Yeh, got Life Tax

Also hey, lookie there, sub-6

Immediately after the last one too lmao

[crimson birch]

You're on fire 😆

[cinder hull]

Moreso lucky given I got almost exactly what I needed for both runs LOL

But thank ya

[crimson birch]

Naw naw you gotta get lucky and be able to take advantage of the luck

[rancid flower]

Really fun Morrigan run. Sadly didn't get Hephaestus legendary though

[regal shard]

wheeee

[crimson birch]

Didn't get the damage revenge boons until late in the run (super late in the case of Light Smite), so it wasn't really that much of a Heinous Affront run, but it did manage to nudge my Mel staff Surface time under the ten minute mark

Now my surface and underworld times have an identical situation where the same five fastest aspects are below a certain time threshold and everything else is hanging out in nowheresville 😆

[crimson birch]

sdfhdfghjj my first ever sub 6 holy

The map RNG was unreal. (and the cast was the only source of scorch, for the record)

[manic relic]

Not running shadow?

[crimson birch]

Yeah, I'm bad at the game so I just cross my fingers and hope I don't get the bad miniboss in Erebus lol

But [points to jpom] I kinda roll with gambling type choices anyway ig

[manic relic]

I see, I mean I don't think it makes that much of a difference for the other UW minibosses, surface tho I would def be scared. But nice run

[manic relic]

I'm always surprised by scorch, it always finds a way on the top damage charts

[crimson birch]

Yeah, I did get early Pyro Tech, which I think helped make sure that other stuff didn't steal the kill

And iirc Chasm does a funny with Smoulder Ring specifically?

But it's wild how it sneaks in there even under ordinary circumstances

[manic relic]

I think all effects that increase cast damage make you apply more scorch essentially

So yeah with pyro tech it can go crazy

[cursive panther]

I kindly dont wanna talk about why I lost 3 of my death defiances 😭

[crimson birch]

gotta love the 100% plasma though lmao

[cursive panther]

true got that in the final chamber before chronos so that helped

[rancid flower]

Goofy ah run

Thank you Wolf Howl

[harsh mica]

So close to sub 10

[olive vigil]

ok light smite go off

[ruby nova]

growing more and more fond of the thanatos axe by the minute

[vale lark]

I think I had frenzy on for the underworld run

[lethal ice]

Zooooz

[pliant tiger]

please speed i need this second sub 5, my mom is kind of homeless

[pliant tiger]

1:50 erebus exit, no fountain rooms at all, no artemis, and no tartarus room 1 fig leaf are we deadass

splits: 1:50/2:42/3:57/4:47/5:16

[neon grail]

Hel 62f surface, reckless abandon gaming

[jovial moss]

First clear of many! (Took me attempt #17)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1234725598115663994/1464586715837628436/Screenshot_2026-01-24_160718.png?ex=6976022b&is=6974b0ab&hm=365abdea6fe0ffcadcd890d266bb0bb2ee6b8e2c166711ffe19ca6855b94a712&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1423&height=800

[violet locust]

super proud of this supay run 🙂

[ebon yacht]

OMG, after so sooo many runs of Circe rng I finally got the Full Arcana title

[rocky steppe]

You do know it didn't have to be in one run

[pliant tiger]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SUB 5 RECORDED

[quick vigil]

so your mom is saved now?

[pliant tiger]

yeah shes kinda financially stable now

w speed for making this happen

https://tenor.com/view/w-speed-kaisgolazo-speed-drinking-water-ishowspeed-ishowspeed-water-gif-5824894989253361244

splits: 1:41/2:23/3:39/4:23/4:52

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/eXCprEay0rc

[ebon yacht]

It did need to be one run cause I was goin for the title not the achievement, I completed all achievements awhile back already

[lethal flicker]

Simple yet goated combo, and also Lol Nightspawn doing more damage than the source

[manic relic]

new pb

[coarse island]

I really gotta try speedrunning, it sounds fun.

Gg’s btw!!

[manic relic]

It's really really fun (except when you get fig scammed while on PB pace )

[coarse island]

That sounds lovely.

[crimson birch]

Intrigued to see that even with whirlybird hammer, normal atk still took first!

[manic relic]

I feel like I'm not good enough with the aspect yet otherwise oattack should have been way higher

[crimson birch]

TBF you had Nimble Limbs

[ebon yacht]

Next on the list: thick skinned, did not need to try as hard as I expected, snea snar didnt help at all

[pliant tiger]

just take medea and u won't have to worry about being good at the aspect

ram into enemies ez game

look where that got me

[crimson birch]

Lies and bait 😭

[pliant tiger]

bro why are u booing me im right

[crimson birch]

I appreciate your fine thumbnailcrafting but you're good at the aspect u liar

[pliant tiger]

"fine thumbnailcrafting" and i used samsung photo editor to make the thumbnail and it took me less than one minute to put all the handwritten red text

🔥 🔥 🔥

also im decent at the aspect at best tbh

[crimson birch]

That counts 🫡

[manic relic]

My previous pb was with Medea

[crimson birch]

Than axe faster aspect than Medea confirmed

[manic relic]

It's really good and I like it but I like than axe and Moros torches better

I still wanna go for a sub 5 moros

[pliant tiger]

moros is goated true

i like medea and moros

but charon however is a completely different story

i like charon but i hate charon as a speedrunning weapon

[manic relic]

I like jpom too much to play Charon to speedrun

Tbh moros also feels "bad" with jpom cause I feel you need to hit specific Hera boons ASAP

[crimson birch]

Oh? Gain and FL I assume

[pliant tiger]

moros feels bad to speedrun without hera special icl

[manic relic]

Yes, and also special

[crimson birch]

Oh huh.

[pliant tiger]

room clear is carried by hera special

[manic relic]

A good run imo needs all three before hec

[crimson birch]

I do love me a Hera special generally but didn't realize it was that foundational to it

[manic relic]

Meanwhile Medea jpom 2 random curses can get you really far

[ebon yacht]

and the partner title Mistress of Magic is also ours

[charred zodiac]

Mel staff goated

[rotund badger]

I beat 45 fear, finally! I'm really starting to like aspect of circe. Note also that my cast damage is 10x higher than any other damage on the board 😅

I'm veeery slowly getting better at P3 chronos - I still take a ton of damage at times when I get sloppy or lose track of what's happening, but I caught myself dodging his triple scythe once, and am otherwise just generally getting better at telling what he's doing and how to avoid it, and I only got hit once by the weird cutscene floor beams attack, which usually nails me a few times!

[lethal flicker]

Holy Thrasher Trinity meets Heinous smite build

[lethal flicker]

Consider just doing a light jog around the arena's edge, don't even have to run

[crimson birch]

Lmfao at the damage numbers on LS

[lethal flicker]

I've had bigger, would've been if my attack and special boons were reversed

but as it was, just pummelling my enemies at 4x the usual speed was doing a lot

[timber musk]

now thats a better cast run

[eternal ocean]

My faith in the coat is restored

[analog oasis]

Tried out Selene Coat

Still hate that damn ||triple scythe move||

[fluid helm]

i struggled way too much bro this heph legend is ass

[analog oasis]

It's good when you get a fully upgraded aspect

[rare parcel]

Alright game, you caught my bluff, I was going to attempt 50F with all weapons eventually

[charred zodiac]

50F medea

[analog oasis]

710 from Gramps 💀

[charred zodiac]

Yeah lol

[analog oasis]

What vows did you use?

[charred zodiac]

Oh

[analog oasis]

You didn't see that

[charred zodiac]

all of these at max

[rotund hamlet]

grit 3 hordes 3 before scars 1 or denial is diabolical

[cursive panther]

Yea Heps legendary is mid

[charred zodiac]

I had denial and I just hate scars

[rotund hamlet]

oh i meant forfeit

[charred zodiac]

I hate that too

[rotund hamlet]

how much damage do you take that scars 2 isnt free

[charred zodiac]

A lot

[mild blaze]

Rahhh switch gamer

[analog oasis]

What's wrong with Switch? I play on it

[ivory hearth]

DIE YOU BASTARD

had a few really good runs today but never actually beat him

this run though, it was a MASSACRE. The WHOLE WAY

[errant notch]

shiva 👍

[mild blaze]

same

[timber musk]

well i only have the ability to play Hades 2 on switch I dont own pc and its not on any other console

[lethal ice]

didnt think id see you here

[maiden hawk]

first unrivaled chronos 😮‍💨

[rocky steppe]

Evil eye 😔

[maiden hawk]

a little helper 😅

[rocky steppe]

Fang would've given you more damage

[maiden hawk]

yeah? I didn't count. thanks :)

[rocky steppe]

Fang gives 25% universal damage at chronos, which works the whole region, and on all the adds

[quiet stump]

Ive been struggling with rivals Polyphemus so much, but tonight he must have been real tired. Only took 23hp damage, a considerable personal best compared to losing multiple dds as usual.

[vale lark]

i could go faster probably but this is it for now maybe i need to understand how to use medea or sum

[charred zodiac]

50F Supay

[lethal ice]

exagryph at home:

[pliant tiger]

oh my fcking god this was the run until god trial charybdis and tail appeared

[pliant tiger]

splits: 1:11/2:50/5:00/5:41/6:22

[pliant tiger]

@old mountain this run is dedicated to u

[worldly moat]

I should do a 60f surface for him fr

[pliant tiger]

make sure its on an aspect that hes dogass at like circe or medea

[worldly moat]

I could probably whip out a circe one like first or 2nd try, only cuz i havent played surface in forever

Ive done 62f surface circe anyway

[pliant tiger]

i just realized

this couldve been fastest eos 62f surface if i turned on max scars

[manic relic]

62f eos

[hallow wren]

im tired boss

[rotund badger]

this is only if you go straight to him though, no?

[midnight mist]

Could you elaborate on "on all the adds"

Do the 30% vs chronos/typhon and the 25% from fang have different properties somehow

[winged sigil]

yes, the 30% is exclusive to typhon and chronos, the 25% from fang is for them AND all the enemies they spawn midfight

also evil eye is useless before the bossfight, fang is great for all the rooms before the boss too

[midnight mist]

Yeah I just didnt know what adds meant in this context

But yeah the 25% vs his minions is useful

[winged sigil]

adds = additional enemies
it's an old term derived from rpg games

[manic relic]

yes, but most of the time you wanna do that

[harsh mica]

First sub-10 😎

[rotund badger]

oh!

[pliant tiger]

yeah i never take side rooms unless its hades room

well for speedruns i dont take hades room cuz its a timeloss

[manic relic]

just to explain better, for general runs where youre maybe aiming for a specific build its okay to get the side rooms (and in that case, probably pick another keepsake rather than fang, but eye is still bad either way) but for speedruns you dont wanna take any room cause it makes the subsequent rooms have more enemies (thus slowing you) and for high fear same thing cause you dont wanna face even more enemies when they have more hp and deal more dmg etc... so its almost never worth it

[rotund badger]

oh sure i see

[midnight mist]

How is taking the Hades room a timeloss?

Apart from the time spent navigating to it

[winged sigil]

it counts for biome depth, which increases the number of enemies in the later rooms

[eternal ocean]

Awww, it wasn't no hit

(typhon)

[balmy tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204530467026763856/1465057603506798707/IMG_8038.jpg?ex=6977b8b8&is=69766738&hm=52b05ee94d5c3b8ba6547cf4621a4b94588eba803f536296a2ce80bde18442f1&

Never had a run this good in the original game, or this intense; felt really proud seeing how much time I had left

[eternal ocean]

Aspect of momus😭

[balmy tartan]

Yeah, that’s right

What’s a meta? Never heard of it

I like those extra hits

[rancid flower]

This was such a silly Mel torches run lmao

REALLY wish I had gotten Light Smite though. Would have been perfect

[wary moth]

I went all-in on blasts for my first full-Chaos run. Was a fun experiment but took awhile to snowball as I worked on getting the time between blasts reduced

[rancid flower]

Super omega Anubis run

[mild blaze]

yessir

[mild blaze]

i like playing on switch, it has the perfect form factor for this game

[eternal ocean]

I like non meta stuff too, but MOMUS???

[timber musk]

honestly fair id agree also

[thorn hamlet]

i feel like its not bad per se, just other staffs are better

[manic relic]

Momus is fine

i miss pre nerf momus...

[eternal ocean]

Ok but its gimmick is objectively useless most of the time

[manic relic]

even at high fear people have been able to use the gimmick of the aspect, it just happens to be the worse staff (cause all the others are better)

[eternal ocean]

Hm

[timber musk]

first time using aspect of nyx was tryna get kings tide but I think I did pretty good for a first time use

[lethal flicker]

Sometimes you just need raw power stacked on +% effects and nothing else.

[rotund hamlet]

sub 6 daso does not seem fun 😵

[fluid helm]

dude i just dodged everything from typhon LMAO how tf was he not even on top 5 most damage

35% dodge chance + 40 armor every time i hex

[rancid flower]

I don’t like Momus because a ton of Omega based boons aren’t applied to the turrets for no reason.

Based off the weapon description, it should be re-firing your omega attacks exactly how they work when you fire them

[rotund hamlet]

closer, maybe its not so bad

took droplet over amulet to keep gigaros but that was dumb looking back

[analog oasis]

Same

[proud flicker]

I just had a run where Gale got the assist kill on Chronos

[rancid flower]

So glad I could finally do a Possessed Array run!

[junior flower]

i don't know how i did it, but this was the first time i ever took less than 200 damage from typhon, and i did it hitless apparently

[rancid flower]

Getting Hestia legendary from Echo was unexpected but funny

[frank mist]

first win of hades 2
who cares if you buy an anvil that ruins your build if you just have 235 hp

[worldly moat]

Not getting zeus on attack is crazy 🥀

Why in gods name would you settle for poseidon

[prime cipher]

That probably got Denialed

[worldly moat]

Ok but why wouldn't you take it

[prime cipher]

I had to choose between Shocking Loss and Air Quality 😭

I can't remember my exact path I don't remember which I got

[worldly moat]

You also just didnt have origination active 😭

Its not even the games fault atp you cpuldve gotten froth or blitz atk at least

[mild blaze]

nearly got 50 fear surface T-T

[cursive panther]

HOLY BUILD

[neon grail]

62f both routes w/ top 4 weps

lots of hestia, apollo and demeter

[neon grail]

and no poseidon or ares lmao

[pliant tiger]

i am speed

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/lnzv25XH1ss

splits: 2:27/4:01/5:36/6:49/7:26

[pliant tiger]

hecate sucks

[unkempt basalt]

Real

[pliant tiger]

also this was first try wtf

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/s9EOGJ2yrGs

[maiden hawk]

and first unrivaled Typhoon 🥳

[cursive panther]

yea I hate when Hecate throws the magick that turns Mel into a morph 😭

[worldly moat]

Ggs twin, I was too slow and stopped grinding for it 🥀

[regal shard]

waoooohhh. You got it. Congrats

[eternal ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[rancid flower]

Got a god Medea build and got my new Fear PB 😎

Could've been a new time PB as well if I wasn't playing so careful.

[maiden hawk]

typhon 😅 I keep confusing it with the tropical cyclone 😒

[worldly moat]

no way

also shoutout frinos

[winged sigil]

is this the first 67 without gale

[gilded sable]

i already cleared underworld on nergal prior

[winged sigil]

oh right that had the forgge too

[molten hamlet]

I love Godsent Skyfall.

[cursive panther]

I FEEL SO LUCKY WOW

NO DEATH DEFIANCES AND MY PC WAS LAGGING AND I STILL WON

[molten hamlet]

been there. Awesome job.

[rancid flower]

Another 45f 😎

[prime cipher]

Hey guys what do you think of my build

[topaz arch]

upgrade ur aspect bruh

[prime cipher]

I'm only using it for the fated list 😭

[crimson birch]

She's a good aspect, Brent

[storm knot]

Hera Zeus duo goes crazy

[nova crater]

pb!

by over a full minute, too

[lethal ice]

fun build :DD

[proud sand]

It took me 5 tries, but I finally beat Great Chaos Above! Was about to give up in Ephyra because I started with only 50 HP, but got really lucky with Circe activating my Judgement arcana, which was a complete game-changer. Also got really lucky with Boons that gave me my own personal army

[neon grail]

I love me some summons build

[tall coyote]

Zero arcana run 🩷

[prime cipher]

Want to Guess why Charibdys and a Random Mourner are on my most damage taken list?

[thorn geyser]

@prime cipher

[prime cipher]

Paid Dues!!

Also yeah that's peak

[thorn geyser]

I don't think I even used Paid Dues, I still had over 1200 gold by the end of the fight

[prime cipher]

I forgot paid dues replaces damage in the game so I one time techniucally no hit Chronos even if It was paid dues lol

Dang that's nice though

[thorn geyser]

I hate those thorns in the fields, they're never an issue in any other run, but here they're a killer

[sour widget]

Got my first 24 fear surface run and first max vow of rivals on the same run. Nearly choked it on the final phase of typhon. Had no DD uses until typhon 😮‍💨

Decided to use that aspect just cause I needed to still clear with it and was cocky, normally would have used persephone or something

Jeweled Pom is busted

[quartz lintel]

It’s like having a rush boon that triggers my omega cast

[winged sigil]

clean quadruple dips 🔥

[lethal flicker]

Tera cleaver

[sharp schooner]

I made the ultimate dummy build
you cannot physically die as long as you're attacking

facetanked the last 2 bosses

[lethal furnace]

Max fear Surface with the coat. VOD: https://youtu.be/kS02A6Jz33Q

[lofty oriole]

Madlad 🙏 🙏
Congrats

Almost hitless until the end too jfc

[charred zodiac]

new pb

[rancid flower]

Nice!

[rancid flower]

Is the 6 fear from Frenzy 2?

[rotund hamlet]

turn on shadow too

[rancid flower]

Is that supposed to help for speed? I’m pretty sure they’re talking about speed running PBs

[rotund hamlet]

yes it makes shadow spiller faster

[rancid flower]

Oh yeah that’s true. Didn’t think about that

But wouldn’t it potentially make the other ones take longer?

[rotund hamlet]

nah you always ignore the shadows so it doesnt matter

[lethal flicker]

Would you like some additional cast damage with your anvil ring and howling soul?

[rancid flower]

How tf did you get 3 cast boons from Chaos 😭

[lethal flicker]

Sheer luck

[warped ocean]

chaos isnt even on the damage lb

[rocky steppe]

Charon well item goes crazy

[warped ocean]

how many times LOL

[rocky steppe]

2 if they got one in erebus

[thorn geyser]

This time it wasn't thorns, it was a single hit of Steam up in Oceanus

[rocky steppe]

I'm sorry but I laughed a little at this

[rocky steppe]

Why Artemis? Surely it'd be easier with smth like circe

[thorn geyser]

The idea was that I would just take every instance of a barrier possible to get, which would include the Riposte barrier, but I think I only used it like 3 times throughout both runs

[crimson birch]

Sounds like a good argument for just pickin an aspect that lets ya play safe in general

[thorn geyser]

Demeter on the special is usually enough to play safe, the only scary part was fighting the Rat king without a magik regen

[crimson birch]

Kinda wild theory: since you need to go hitless to succeed in this self-imposed challenge anyway, what if you did take Discordant Bell

[topaz arch]

peak ???

[thorn geyser]

Oh wow, I've never thought about Eris's keepsake before, it would actually be really good here

[topaz arch]

i mean jpom is still much stronger to start

[thorn geyser]

I don't have any fear on, it's not like I actually need to be that strong

[rocky steppe]

Jpom into bell into watch into antler

[crimson birch]

Well, no, killing things faster makes you risk less

[crimson birch]

Since Bell becomes a free take in this specific challenge, I was thinking jpom into fig leaf into bell into antler maybe

[rocky steppe]

Yeah could work, you're just not gonna get much from bell

[thorn geyser]

Wait, does Eris's keepsake effect stay even after swapping off of it?

[rocky steppe]

Yep

[crimson birch]

Yuh, including the negative effect

[thorn geyser]

Woah, this is how little I've used it, I litterally know nothing

[crimson birch]

I haven't ever used it myself, just been around for discussions

[thorn geyser]

The only reason I have it at max rank is because of teh chaos trial

[rotund hamlet]

you never want to use it really

[crimson birch]

Yeah, this is just a super specific use case

[sour widget]

I'd honestly never considered that aspect of charon could hit your cast multiple times with giga cleaver and exceptional talent

[charred zodiac]

new pb but idk how im supposed to go faster lmao (all bosses were 20s or less and the only things missing were artemis and narcissus)

[rocky steppe]

Rng, faster rooms, and more practice

You want frenzy 2 and shadow on

Aim for 1.20-1.40 erebus, 2.20-2.30 oceanus, 3.30 fields, and you should get close to a sub 5 finish

[charred zodiac]

yikes

ill try ig

[rocky steppe]

You can go a bit slower to improve your time

[crimson birch]

You could leave Shadow off if you don't mind the gamblin' lyfe

But between that and also jpom gambling and also the normal run RNG that might be a bit much 😆

[rocky steppe]

You also want to run rerolls for medea with the speedrun arcana

[charred zodiac]

why rerolls?

[rocky steppe]

So you can get heinous affront alot more consistently

You don't really need the power boost for (almost) no fear uw

The 3.56 wr was done with rerolls

[charred zodiac]

ok

[crimson birch]

What's the ideal Medea speed build then, Ares attack Zeus special or something? Maybe Hera rush or something to have her in the pool?

[rocky steppe]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMzIiwiYzYiLCJjMTEiLCJjMTMiLCJjMTQiLCJjMTUiLCJjMTYiLCJjMTciLCJjMjEiLCJjMjIiLCJjMjMiLCJjMjQiXQ==

Fastest arcana loadout

[rocky steppe]

Yep, you also want rousing reception or light smite in erebus for a faster hec

[prime cipher]

Lets go Hepheastus 💯💯💯

[rotund hamlet]

heinous affront erebus into 2 minute fields and double fig scam

[thorn geyser]

Finally got it on my 4th try, my first damageless run

[frank mist]

this combo felt so good yeesh. Lucid Gain was the glue on this one frfr

just some cool 500 damage fireball casts plus whatever sword ring did if they lived

[rotund hamlet]

hitless next?

[sour widget]

I nearly choked this so damn hard for first max rivals

Choked really bad on Cerberus

Would have been way easier if the damn game just gave me island getaway like I wanted

[rotund badger]

best gain in the game, imo

[analog oasis]

Got into the Coat and tried Nyx's aspect.

All in all, still hate triple scythe throw, but dodged it twice this time.

All my high fear wins are totally reliant on him not doing that (including max fear).

[prime cipher]

ngl... I don't know WHAT I was doing during that Cerberus fight

[rancid flower]

Why were you using omega special so much lol

[prime cipher]

Invulnerability

[worldly moat]

Wdym invuln its mel aspect

Ospec has no invuln

In fact mel skull is a weapon you only touch omegas to get huntress going then never again

[rotund badger]

speaking of huntress, is it one-hit-only, or sustained through the whole combat?

i.e. if I go Oattack, Ospecial, Oattack, is that +45% crit chance for the whole room? or just until my next crit?

[worldly moat]

Thats not huntress huntress is 50% attack and special damage if <100% mana

[rocky steppe]

You mean night?

[analog ermine]

“Pop quiz: How long's it take to beat a moron to death? BAM! Sorry, Time’s up!”

[rotund badger]

agh, yes, I do! thanks

[sour widget]

It is funny just how much shorter his second phase is than his first.

[rocky steppe]

It's also one hit only, as in once you get the crit it resets

[late crater]

the most fun charon build i’ve had in a while

[prime cipher]

Least damage I've taken

[mild blaze]

running this without air quality makes me sad

[worldly moat]

Nothing there would benefit from it...

Besides like maybe prominence flare but its also heroic lvl4 so probably not too

[analog ermine]

Man I just jumped into fear 16

[worldly moat]

Why in gods name did you take winners circle 😭

[analog ermine]

I wanted to cast gun

[worldly moat]

With hestia you were 1000% better off not taking it at all

[rotund badger]

oh that is cursed lol

nice job beating 16 fear, though!

[analog ermine]

Sometimes I’m just…interesting with boon choices lol

[winged sigil]

glowing coal value

[lethal ice]

incredible Nergal run

[analog ermine]

Also this didn’t play a factor into the boon choice but I did get the Ares duo that let it do bigger damage when I slapped Typhon with it

[rancid flower]

This was silly

[analog ermine]

(Oh also it’s not reflected in the screen but I also was running at literally 5 magic for all of Olympus and the Summit up to Typhon so I couldn’t even omega cast )

[lethal ice]

Heph x Morrigan my fav combo

mb*

[rancid flower]

So funny

[lethal ice]

indeed

[halcyon pawn]

I can't believe I got the Nuke Dash build lol (got it epic in the first room, Bridal Glowed in room 4 of Ephyra lol)

[sour widget]

Still not great at Shiva but solid first ever run with it

I should have gone for Exceptional Talent but kinda forgot it existed for a bit lol

Didn't manage to get a particularly strong crit on chronos sadly

Only got one more aspect to win with and ironically it's the melinoe staff

[sour widget]

pretty mediocre but first chaos clear. Gonna probably just go straight to greater chaos cause that was pretty easy lol. Just face tanked Chronos

[sour widget]

Yippee

[sour widget]

I like winners circle for blade builds on ares or air quality with Zeus-Apollo duo but otherwise most casts don’t really benefit from it

[lethal flicker]

WC is waaaay better than it looks

all single tick casts love it

[pliant tiger]

especially anvil

[sour widget]

Yeah hence why I like it for ares

I wanna do that build again sometime

Go all in on blades

[lethal flicker]

or omega builds, or the memey Sanctity builds

[sour widget]

I had a fun Nergal build with Exceptional talent and cut above with both Apollo and heph duos for ares

Just constantly using Oattack whirlwind with psychic whirlwind

[lethal flicker]

it's also good when you have a cast launch boon, since you get to use that more often

[sour widget]

Yeah especially lightning lance since you don’t have to wait for it to land if it misses

Or well, wait for it to get there

Since you can target landing spot for hestia’s

But hades’s not so much

[lethal flicker]

even so

Hades is a lot of damage

[sour widget]

Yeah absolutely

[lethal flicker]

just insert it into their teeth

WC making it a basically free lump of damage whenever it great

[sour widget]

Now I wanna do a winners circle build but I’ll probably never get lucky

[lethal flicker]

Fourth Degree Fireball builds are also lol, a little mathematically broken, and love WC

[pliant tiger]

tidal ring with circe damages enemies only once but if u have howling it damages them twice

[sour widget]

Winners circle, Zeus-Apollo, ares-apollo, ares-heph, war cry, air quality

I’m sure you can add a lot of stuff in there but sounds fun

[lethal flicker]

Rallying Cry, but yes

[sour widget]

Yeah for extra damage obviously can’t leave that out

[lethal flicker]

(Also just experiment with Rallying cry/Extended family with fourth degree and get confused as to why number so BIG)

[pliant tiger]

dont forget antler

[sour widget]

Isn’t furies arcana damage buff like not worth it due to how it calculates?

I mean might as well run it for a WC build but still

[pliant tiger]

bro furies is always worth it

if ur not running furies thats crazy

[lethal flicker]

Furies is just gud

[sour widget]

Why do I hear such different takes on furies lol

[pliant tiger]

theres different takes?

[lethal flicker]

doesn't apply to cast launching damage, but applies to all cast damage and omega cast damage almost by definition

[pliant tiger]

whoever said furies is bad ngl should be executed

[lethal flicker]

and also yeah +30% damage for just playing the game vaguely sensibly is freer than the huntress

[sour widget]

I mean due to how it’s calculated it’s not a real 30% damage buff

Least not for all stuff

[rocky steppe]

Who's been telling u this

[lethal flicker]

It's a +30% like all other globals

[rocky steppe]

It's 30% global

[lethal flicker]

it's as real as Origination's +50%

[sour widget]

Or wait nah my math was just dumb

I’m a little stupid

[rocky steppe]

[sour widget]

But yeah I was running furies, origination, and whatever the combo one is

Also I absolutely still crutch on the time freeze one lol

I’m a little baby that needs their omega safety net

[lethal flicker]

Origination is the combo one

unless you mean Night

[pliant tiger]

eternity?

[sour widget]

Nah the omega combo one

[pliant tiger]

interesting

[sour widget]

Not origination

Eternity is the time freeze we got several things going back and forth lol

[lethal flicker]

Night

[sour widget]

I was saying I use origination which is the cursed one, night is the one for omega combos?

Got it

[pliant tiger]

yes

[sour widget]

But yeah my build still always uses eternity cause I’m a little baby that needs their death defiances and time freeze cause I’m not confident enough to just run strength yet lol

[lethal flicker]

That's Death

[sour widget]

I know

[lethal flicker]

Eternity was the old name for it

[sour widget]

Separate statement

[lethal flicker]

ahh

[sour widget]

I have definitely hopped on the fates’ whim bandwagon though

I’ll happily take all my boons being stupid strong when I get them and give up my rerolls for it

[lethal ice]

took a million resets for triple beam and artemis

[sour widget]

Holy hell that’s a lot of magick and health

[rocky steppe]

You did not need this much magic and health

That's over 10k with born gain

[analog oasis]

Maybe he did

[lethal ice]

side effect of me rolling 4 health/magic stages in ephyra for Artemis

😭 😭 😭

also uhh i had money so i just went on a shopping spree in shrines of hermes

[rocky steppe]

😭

[lethal ice]

tried to make something around incandescent aura, it did a bit of dmg which is more than what i expected ig?

[lethal flicker]

it can sort of sometimes do damage, yes!

[sour widget]

Incandescent aura + born gain requires you to tread a line of having enough magick to do a lot of damage but not too much to where you never run out

Staff with exceptional talent, fine line and ocean swell definitely would do it

[lethal flicker]

And gain does big lumps that overkill. I've had more success with Carido gain

[sour widget]

Nah I know where it really is

Tough gain, Hera-heph duo

[lethal flicker]

Okay okay... you joke but

[sour widget]

AND

[lethal flicker]

the original incandescent aura was an AoE boom that didn't need hitch

[sour widget]

Self healing

[lethal flicker]

that combo was literally explosive armour, and is the reason Brave Face got nerfed down to 30%

[sour widget]

Yeah lol sounds insane

But tough gain, Hera-heph, self healing, and moon water damage recovery for the meme

Whatever that’s called

[lethal flicker]

Panacea

[sour widget]

Ferb I know what we we’re gonna do today

[rocky steppe]

Chronos watching mel walk up, eat an instakill and instantly return to full health

[sour widget]

spits out a tooth, the tooth instantly regenerates “got any more?”

[covert glade]

Staff with mirrored thrasher, sworn strike and cardio gain (and power surge) is the incandescent aura machine

[sour widget]

The aura farmer, one might say

[lethal flicker]

it is

Power Surge has more potential though, stupidly

Unless you roll like, controlled burn and fine line from those gods and throw a few oSpecials out to burn your mana bar a bit

then pummel with big stikk

[sour widget]

Power surge is Zeus gain right?

[lethal flicker]

no

[sour widget]

Oh

[lethal flicker]

Power surge is like, the most maligned zeus boon

but this is the one use case where it's good, nay great

Spend mana, get a lightning strike nearby

[sour widget]

Ohhhh that one

[lethal flicker]

no scaling, very short range

[sour widget]

That one’s ass lol

[lethal flicker]

no scaling with mana spent, that is

[sour widget]

“Oh by 40 damage”

[lethal flicker]

it's ass except with mirrored thrasher

where it really adds up and scales reasonable well on jpom

[sour widget]

JPom takes some builds from ass to slightly above mediocre

And some from mediocre to downright insane

[lethal flicker]

The thing that most kills it is oddly the tiny range it has

300 units iirc

[sour widget]

Which is funny when light smite is just universal

[lethal flicker]

(radius of a cast is 420, fyi)

[sour widget]

Light smite just hits everything no questions asked

Or at least the range is so big it doesn’t matter

Apollo > Zeus it’s just true don’t question it

[lethal flicker]

Zeus is amazing in how he has some gamebreakingly good boons and some absolute duds

Lightning Rush, Ionic Gain, Power Surge, Divine Vengeance. bumbum poopoo boons

Heaven strike and flourish, Storm Ring, Static Shock, Double Strike. Game winners