h2-builds-and-combat

[sage flame]

https://youtu.be/JDe-P5UHAqc?si=h-esufXBsItP4G0r

you can skip to 24 fear timestamp

[tacit rapids]

i turn on all menace, return, fangs, shadow, time, and 2 rivals

that leaves you with 23 so you can fill in the 1

[thorny raft]

i turn on 4 rivals cuz i think its fun

[winter zenith]

I like max time, max frenzy, rivals 3, max menace, 1 hubris

[loud saffron]

I already did 4 rivals, and I agree that was fun.

But at my current level 24+ fear & rivals 3-4 is kinda tough, so I am looking for other opinions.

[arctic current]

WHAT the HELL do people to The Morrigan to make it good? i had like 10 runs with it and it HEAVILY SUCKED. i just dont understand

[austere trail]

I just spam blood triad everywhere and it works very well. special -> hold attack (attack -> oattack) and profit. make sure to drop casts whenever you can

get something like aphro, apollo, or hera on atk and get two curses for origination, then you're cooking

[nimble lichen]

nvm turns out i am playing on an older version for some reason

thats why that isnt working

[odd bolt]

yeah i thought that was intended

[austere trail]

same! a lot of people tend to think it's a bug though. I hope SG doesn't change it, it's very fun

[hidden wind]

it is
plus iwth cahron builds youre most likely going with a ranged cast anyway

[bronze flax]

Why do I feel Unrivaled Eris is a hard counter to Nergal mao

[tall notch]

Every frenzy 2 unrivalled boss feels like a counter to Nergal unless you have psychic whirlwind

[lost merlin]

okay i have a question ik i'm unlikely to get a satisfying answer to, but: has anyone made a practice tool for this game by any chance

[ember nest]

Why does Arctic Ring + Arctic Gale not start origination?

[austere trail]

has to be separate olympians

[meager wadi]

thatd be nice

[ember nest]

Yeah maybe reading does help oops ty 🤍

[meager wadi]

what do people run with mel daggers, is dmg% oattack or something like pos normal attack?

also does anyone special build on these

[austere trail]

splash or scorch on attack, aphro on special
back burner from apollo is very strong with mel knives
and of course, trick knives

I'm not actually too knowledgeable on the knives but that's worked well for me typically

[meager wadi]

aphro on special with TK specifically right

[austere trail]

yea (or apollo ofc)

but I think anything on special works well with trick knives

[sage flame]

to be fair!!!!! you used to be able to do that in early access lol

[sage flame]

wym practice tool, like for practicing boss movesets or something?

[tawny imp]

yall everjust deal 1008 damage in room 1

[edgy nacelle]

what weapon lol?

shiva with night cycling maybe? or something w raki in general

[tawny imp]

close

nergal with level 4 epic ice strike and raki crit

i might try a funny duo boon run this run if the stars align

[edgy nacelle]

oooh nergal + jpom + raki would do it yeah

[tawny imp]

Aphrodite Demeter duo boon all out HP

[lost merlin]

yea something where i can just like, give myself boons and play a boss over and over for 3 hours would be great

[sage flame]

if you're on PC, you can set up a save state where you copy your save file in the shop/room before the boss you wanna practice to another save profile, and then set the file to read only and exit to menu/the whole game when you need to retry

I can find an actual guide for save states rq

[lost merlin]

please

18 hours of rivals scylla no breaks incoming

[sage flame]

ah rivals scylla

lmao understandable, I'll dm what ive found

[tawny imp]

what the hell 4 hestia boons in ephyra

[lost merlin]

im actually not that bad at her but going through erebus every time just to practice is rough, my current PB is 4 hits taken

[spark crown]

What aspect

[tawny imp]

mel coat

unfortunately no exhaust riser

i died because hestia did not give me scorch atgtack

whats a good rush for supay

[silent crow]

zoos

[odd bolt]

Zeus Hera*

oooor you could go the funny route and do a falling blades build with stabbing rush

it's not good and you need two duos but it's fun

[sage flame]

poseidon too and then u could get into beach ball (not boosted by the supay bonus but just a good boon)

[true gust]

yoooo

I got beach ball once when I played Supay

and it was sooooo satisfaying

beach ball one of my favourite duo so far

[torn granite]

I still have never gotten it

[true gust]

This is in my opinion one of these duos when you always not regret taking it

[spark crown]

universal donor is also a very good duo

25% grisly gain no succ rate

[true gust]

What is ur favourite monobuild?
I find aphrodite very solid especially when you find her legendary boon

[spark crown]

unpopular opinion but its ares

[true gust]

Hmm let me process

I like his magic regen

[spark crown]

its good

lvl 4 heroic is 25% chance of plasma and each plasma is 100% magick

[true gust]

boosting dmg and gaining magic so good

I find Ares very strong with Axe

Mutal Destruction + Blood Spree

So good combo

[spark crown]

mono ares on aspect of the morrigan feels so good especialy plasma

[true gust]

I think I will try next time 😄

I played only Morrigan once just to do prophecy

[spark crown]

the speed of the triple slash gets so fast you can spam dash and attack and constantly pump damage

[true gust]

And I think I went Zeus Morrigan

[tawny imp]

i mean zeus mono is good because you just take zeus boons

[true gust]

you play on controller or M&K

[spark crown]

mnk

[true gust]

basically u gotta find legendary and its so satisfaying

[lost merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0qbC0ENsbY zeus legendary mentioned

[true gust]

haha this is what I had in mind xDDD

[tawny imp]

you dont even really need it

blitz op

[true gust]

I always take Power Surge on Ygnium

[lost merlin]

power surge is uh

probably the only truly "bad" zeus boon tbh outside of torches, and even then you just have better options tbh

(fine line, ocean swell)

[opal pecan]

It's better than his gain boon 🔥

[tawny imp]

aether font is really good if you arent a bum

[lost merlin]

aether font is just okay, imo you take it for the same reason you take demeter gain

i.e. to lock in the god

[sage flame]

it was better when it was bugged 🔥

[lost merlin]

if you think of it like that, aether font is actually the best gain because more zeus

[spark crown]

aether front op on supay XD

maybeeee i should tone down the fear XD

do some training

[opal pecan]

Ya reckon???

[spark crown]

gonna half the fear :P

leaving frenzy time and scars on

and rivals

along with void 3 and shadows

[austere trail]

what's the furthest you've made it with 60F

[meager wadi]

is there some intereting boons on mel axe or than atk only axe? aside from dmg% atk

[spark crown]

half hp poly 1hp hecate

[austere trail]

yeah try 32 instead lol

[spark crown]

im at 31 XD

[muted schooner]

Greater Chaos Above without Origination is sooooooo slow. chipping damage and chipping damage and finally you die.

[tawny imp]

Could you use dissolution of time to get a 67 fear run with no hectate and free Chronos

[austere trail]

not on v1.0+ saves

since max rivals is unlocked after story

[odd bolt]

Nimble limbs for than but like you have to get a good rarity and even then it's not insane

Secret crush is good too

[meager wadi]

what are the hammers of choice for mel axe

[spark crown]

so 30f i can beat rivals poly no dd but as soon as i double it i fail T-T

[odd bolt]

The dash strike one (forgot the name), rapid slash (atk speed)

[opal pecan]

Double Heave or something like that

[spark crown]

with judgement btw

[vernal quiver]

Void3 on 30f is crazy

[spark crown]

death judment persitance

all you need

or if you are good enough strengnth judgement persistence

[vernal quiver]

What happens when judgement rolls into a reroll arcana?? Do you just lose fates whim

[spark crown]

using fates whim increase the odds of the other good cards aswell

[spiral wadi]

reroll cards r blacklisted

[spark crown]

from what i heard it cant happen with fates whim

[vernal quiver]

Oh damn that's cool at least

[spark crown]

takes 3 cards out of the running

[twin lynx]

Ok I gotta ask. Torches. I just… I’ve been trying to play them a bunch lately and I just kinda… don’t get em. Like… mainly just the Eos aspect. Moros and Mel I get. The hidden aspect I at least understand in theory, but what am I supposed to build around with eos? It just kinda feels like a more awkward moros in terms of comboing both attacks and specials. Is that just me?

Like in theory you just omega attack and mash special but like… that’s a lot of setup for what you could just kinda do… yourself… with hidden helix on moros or Mel. The duping of specials.

And like, you can’t get hidden helix on eos so.

[glass bone]

It’s OAttack -> OSpecial -> Special spam

[twin lynx]

Well yeah I get the rotation I just don’t get why you would bother playing it when moros is so similar in builds and far less clunky imo

[glass bone]

It’s because Eos builds in a very different way than Moros. Kind of.

[twin lynx]

In what ways? That’s mainly what I’m asking

[rare ermine]

If you channel special while your Oatt is out, your cloud also gets the special orbs that rotate

[glass bone]

Eos wants on-hit specials, cause you get like 5 Special projectiles

So you want Scorch / Waves / Blitz Special, and % / Blitz Attack

[twin lynx]

Yeah I am fully aware of the basic mechanics of the aspect

[twin lynx]

Well yeah but you kinda just… always want all those things on all torches

[rare ermine]

I actually prefer eos than moros

[glass bone]

Same

[twin lynx]

That’s totally fair. Just what can you do on those that you can’t on moros?

[glass bone]

You can Attack and Dodge at the same time

[twin lynx]

Is there anything or is it just like. They play different

[glass bone]

Like yeah technically you can fire out an Attack during the OSpecials, but it’s more risky to do that imo than what Eos can do.

Also Eos can do damage across an arena, akin to Circe

[edgy nacelle]

they mainly just play differently
Eos is very safe, has passive damage while you dodge if you want, can abuse night cycling, and needs waaaay less total magick regen than Moros

[glass bone]

This is a better way to describe it

[rare ermine]

I think eos has longer range of damage than moros cuz the oatt can just approach the enemies for you

[edgy nacelle]

also very good area coverage for stuff like sirens, drop a daybreaker on roxy then go beat up some tentacles

• it's geeeenerally more special focused, whereas on moros I'd focus on the attack boon and stuff like fine lines

[spark crown]

its lvl 1 nergal time :P

[rare ermine]

Wheres your testament bounties 💀

[edgy nacelle]

and also for context the unseen arcana card alone is enough magick for an entire Eos run with no gain boon, which is actually great for high fear
on moros hell no, won't work at all since you're constantly channeling

[dreamy veldt]

I have 8 more people to max bonds with

Odysseus Skelly Eris Heph Dionysus Arachne Heracles Icarus

[spark crown]

https://i.imgur.com/MN3VIMF.png

[dreamy veldt]

I have an idea of what I need to do for basically everyone except Skelly

[rare ermine]

Metal please do your vow bounties 😭 do not go 40f with nergal lvl1

[spark crown]

pretty good as i have many weapons maxed out

[meager wadi]

was planning on an atk only mel axe run

psychi whirlwind 2nd door

[rare ermine]

Its omega time

[spark crown]

tooo late

[meager wadi]

hammers are not made the same

[broken spoke]

Lv1 nergal is so bad tho

[spark crown]

all hamers are equal except tk

[rare brook]

How to play well with anubis for rivals 4 and frenzy 2?

[rare ermine]

Noooo Metal!!! He was so young! He didnt have to die like this

[rare ermine]

Simple answer: Practice
Complex answer: idk im not an expert get gud??

[spark crown]

apollo attack rapid hack grisly gain

yall underestimating lvl 1 nergal

[rare ermine]

In my training arc for rivals4 frenzy2, I had a 5 run lost streak before I finally won 1. So best way is to just bite the bullet and practice

[slim sparrow]

btw does the game ever offer sac boons for ones that are already heroic?

[spark crown]

152 loss streak

or more maybe

😆

[slim sparrow]

searched it up answer is no thanks anyway

[spark crown]

1 min on my clock to do poly 🔥

[dreamy veldt]

Ok I want to like max out everyone without having to look anything up

But I also don't want to repeatedly fight vor prom if I don't have to

[rare brook]

In the end, yeah, it's just I can't find the combo to do high dps

[dreamy veldt]

Or more times than I have to

[rare ermine]

Are you struggling with a specific boss or is it the builds?

[dreamy veldt]

Who wants to look up the requirement and tell me if it's fear level related

[spark crown]

i onnly lost 2 dd cuz he grabbed me twice while poisoned

[rare ermine]

For who?

[dreamy veldt]

Heracles

To deepen his bond

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/LHOPmTU

W ROLL

[dreamy veldt]

Oh yeah I wanna do a run like that

[spark crown]

you have to beat rivals 3

[dreamy veldt]

With Circe keepsake and Hades arcana

[rare brook]

Builds for anubis, as for example with melone aspect I can more or less go whatever and I blast enemies

[spark crown]

8 seconds left on my clock after beating poly

[dreamy veldt]

I've done that, do I like need to talk to him again in the same setting afterwards

[rare ermine]

Rivals Prom
You are fishing a specific line where heracles says he “is unaccustomed to losing”

[dreamy veldt]

So I have to repeatedly do it noooo

Though it's not that bad

If I'm only doing vor

Hmm I wonder if I should turn on 4 while I'm at it

[spark crown]

i have a pool of apollo ares zeus and demeter T_T

[dreamy veldt]

It doesn't really matter if I win or lose anymore so why not try I guess

[rare ermine]

A very simple build i could suggest is:
Posidon or hestia attack
And demeter cast
Put down att and cast, suck them in with special

[spark crown]

HEROIC NOVA STRIKE NERGAL

[rare ermine]

Its very safe and once you get used to anubis mechanics you can start changing from demeter to someone else more damaging

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/3zhkPX7

Rate the fear setup

tbh might put on another ward if scars gets too annoying

[broken spoke]

Insane

[austere trail]

bro

[spark crown]

the day i make build chat cry is the day i truly win XD

already did in in that baldurs gate discord XD

[broken spoke]

Well with enough practice you can definitely do this

[vernal quiver]

Just do 65 atp

[spark crown]

ohhhh heaven splitter looks cool

[spark crown]

no cuz screw wards

[junior trail]

wards aint that bad

[vernal quiver]

Wards is one of the most free fear as long as youre not axe 😭

[spark crown]

im activly on nergal

[rare ermine]

Lvl1 nergal 🥀

[junior trail]

void 3 60f is crazy

[spark crown]

THAT MEEEEEEE

OMG ISLAND GETTAWAY BOON 4

[steel sequoia]

@past salmon being congrated by supergiant what a goat

[past salmon]

huh

[steel sequoia]

didnt you won the lim and oros?

[past salmon]

yer

[cyan nest]

does supay work with the night card? do you get multiple combos with a single set of omega attack/special?

[steel sequoia]

they posted on X

[edgy nacelle]

the crit bonus persists until the attack/special you channeled disappears
so it’s not multiple combos but yeah, if you use omegas on supay it works how you’d want it to. same with eos

[tawny imp]

What weapon gets the most/least benefit from heph leg

I feel like most has to be nergal

[junior trail]

(most)
momus and nergal
also all skulls imo

[tawny imp]

What happens to momus

[edgy nacelle]

momus and nergal are both in the most category I assume?

[opal pecan]

For all of the aspects, Heph legendary simply ranks up the same thing that got ranked up for level 1-5

So for Momus, that means reducing the delay between the repeated omega move bursts

[tawny imp]

Yeah but sometimes it’s not exactly proportional

[edgy nacelle]

I’d guess least is like. idk, circe, nyx if you’re leaning into on-hit effects and don’t care about base damage, supay depending on build cause sometimes you’re focused on non-rush damage

[opal pecan]

Circe seems like the most useless one to me too.

[junior trail]

art is least for sure

[edgy nacelle]

ah yeah art too probably
maybe pan since it might just slow it down more

[opal pecan]

RIP blades aspects

Mel and Morrigan both have a nice time, though, don't they

[tawny imp]

Another Morrigang W

[edgy nacelle]

I’m also not super sure how much hel benefits…? haven’t rly thought abt it

[spiral wadi]

it buffs leash dmg by x1.5 effectively it's kinda insane

[opal pecan]

At some point I imagine you'd have to be using autofire to benefit from Hel buffs? 🤔

or am I misremembering the thing that gets ranked

I have opened the game and I did not in fact misremember 🫡 rare W for my memory

[edgy nacelle]

idt circe is useless, it’s just less of an explosive upgrade than some other aspects
and also easy for someone to not take advantage of if they’re not playing around the leash well

[opal pecan]

Comparatively speaking, I suppose

[junior trail]

circe is already good in rank 1, leash is for wards shred

[broken spoke]

Leash is kinda insane, not playing around it and it still deal a lot dmg

[spiral wadi]

leash regularly gets top3 damage lmao

at least top 5

[silent crow]

leash is 150 base dps with high hitrate no?

[edgy nacelle]

leash is no joke
it’s just also more skill dependent how much it helps you lol, whereas for stuff like mel staff if you’re interacting with the aspect at all it works even if you kinda suck

wrt heph legendary I mean

[opal pecan]

Actually I guess Shiva might not be that benefited either

in terms of situational.....ity

[spark crown]

... didnt bother updating on this run i i got grabbed by poly into medea poision orb again

[opal pecan]

...........I didn't realize Mean Streak carried over between encounters

This entire time I have been thinking to myself "bleh, that's hardly anything, why should I bother when it'll reset"

[rare ermine]

Mean streak also ticks down while in the boon choice UI

[opal pecan]

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT KEPT TIMING WHILE THE IGT WAS...

lmao

Ya live and learn

[rare ermine]

Mean streak is so good though

The +dmg placebo effect when i think im going fast

[true gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459353369174081538/1435842034610077757/image.png?ex=690d6f99&is=690c1e19&hm=17c3b84de70305d7085a9fcdbf248c9bfb8cf5b2f9af98fa166359bee27388e3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1423&height=800

okay I think they should nerf Revaal

God I have to buy controller bcs playing persefona aspect on keyboard is so glitchy

[azure notch]

I don't understand how people play some weapons on high fear without Eternity. Charon Axe feels really strong, but it depends so much on finding an opening to use the omega special, and on Frenzy 2, I feel like that just doesn't happen without me taking damage. Idk what I'm gonna do once I start needing to add Hordes to my Vows

[rare ermine]

just beat 45f... im so close to the 50f goal

[uneven palm]

I mean it comes with practice. Or you can still take Eternity especially if you’re gambling with Jeweled Pom

[azure notch]

why would it be better if I wasn't going Jpom?

[uneven palm]

I just mean JPom clears up a buncha grasp so if you can’t normally take Eternity with a reroll setup maybe you can with JPom

[azure notch]

I'm kinda getting used to having Artificer now. Is Eternity worth taking over that on slower weapons?

[fierce citrus]

im doing 50 for the first time rn

what vows are you gonna run?

[rare ermine]

Wheres that website with the vow setup link

[uneven palm]

Hard to answer for you. Do you need those three random major goodies or do you need the time slowdown more? Or can you shuffle stuff around and get both? Maybe you use Eternity now and when you’re really cranking fear and need to swap it out for Artificer you’ll be less reliant on Eternity? Idk

[fierce citrus]

you cant send pics here

[fierce citrus]

no clue

[rare ermine]

Hold on

[fierce citrus]

when you find it send it

[junior trail]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/

[fierce citrus]

thanks

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzMsMywyLDYsMiwzLDAsNSwxLDAsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDAsMTJd

thats my setup rn

[rare ermine]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwzLDIsNSwwLDIsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd
I’m still practicing 45 but my next is going to be pain2 then scars2

I have developed a phobia of wards cuz i play axe

[fierce citrus]

damn you running double debt

[fierce citrus]

yea fair im playing torches so its easy

[rare ermine]

I run boatman

Also holy cow you have grit3

[fierce citrus]

i run boatman on no debt and i dont got enough money 😂

[fierce citrus]

i did one 45 run i won now im doing 50

we'll see how it goes

[rare ermine]

45 to 50 is a huge jump

[fierce citrus]

nah its easy

i really should put return and debt on but i despise return tbh

and denial as well

[rare ermine]

“Doing 50f i’ll post it later
Man nvm i got my ass beat”

[fierce citrus]

i could just put denial double debt and double return and put only 1 grit and no hordes but dont feel like it

[rare ermine]

I run denial cuz it seemed easier to deal with than hordes/pain/scars

[fierce citrus]

im guessing 5 attempts

[fierce citrus]

dont feel like having to choose between boons

you running dd or strength when you get to 50

also surface or uw

[rare ermine]

Strength Gaming

[fierce citrus]

yea easy

gonna stay until 62 using strength

[rare ermine]

I haven’t practiced on surface much 😆

[fierce citrus]

surface is easier tbh

actually lemme rephrase its harder but funner

[rare ermine]

Im running strength out of spite cuz my brother runs dd so i have to prove to him that str is better and I am better than him

[junior trail]

i wont say its easier but faster to concrete your build in ephyra

[fierce citrus]

strength superior

[fierce citrus]

yea its not easier but the boss fights are funner

[rare ermine]

Agree, ephyra makes build setup so easy

I dont even need to run artificer for Sf

[fierce citrus]

nah artifiicer goated on surface

once you get on the raft you find like 1 boon artificer just helps out

also are you on fates whim?

[rare ermine]

Yes, i like not having to think about builds

[fierce citrus]

well just took 50 damage lemme restart

[rare ermine]

Just give me the god and I’ll make it work

[fierce citrus]

yea makes the game funner

[rare ermine]

Jpom is just too good to give up

[fierce citrus]

omg selene i dont want you

jk selene is amazing on high fear

[rare ermine]

I think its funny that my 7lose streak was because i had zeus in pool. The moment he left me tf alone i won my 45f

[fierce citrus]

i love when bridal glow hits my born gain 💔

[spark crown]

that so good :P

[spark crown]

more cursed 60f lvl 1 nergal

[opal pecan]

whyyyy

[fierce citrus]

peak

omg grit 3 it feels like everyone has around 30% more hp

it could just be me though

[spark crown]

POLY YOUR BLIND STOP GRABBING ME FROM 30 METERS AWAY

[opal pecan]

YOU'RE BEING THIS LOUD, OF COURSE HE CAN FIND YOU FROM 30 METERS AWAY

[fierce citrus]

alright

@rare ermine about to face typhon 50 fear first try

[rare ermine]

Omg how are you so good at this game

[fierce citrus]

55 fear now 💔

[signal coral]

good luck

[spark crown]

may aswell jump to 60 :P

[fierce citrus]

tempted i cant lie

[rare ermine]

Omg redd is so cracked at the game congrats on the win

[fierce citrus]

and while at 60 might as well just do 62

[fierce citrus]

thanks bro

at 92 hours rn

[rare ermine]

Idk how many hours i have but im in night ~180

[signal coral]

i did a 50 for surface/underworld but i need to take a break to do speedruns

[fierce citrus]

im on 130 i think but minus chaos trials if they count

[spark crown]

im on 319 O_O

[fierce citrus]

just do a 67 fear for fun

[fierce citrus]

damnn

[signal coral]

im not good enough to do high fear

[spark crown]

i have 200hrs

[shy moat]

Sea Star is sometimes the best https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/671072182926835742/1435863921788456970/yes_haha_full.mp4?ex=690d83fc&is=690c327c&hm=606a677da23fa4a397e8caa6b8e20a1555afb56074b6823e19f2a972be9a53fd&

[fierce citrus]

do the chaos trials count to have much nights youve done

[spark crown]

HAHA YES

[rare ermine]

100 of those were failed 60f attempts?

[spark crown]

i think so

[shy moat]

yes, they all do

[fierce citrus]

immediately go get that hermes boon whatever its called

[signal coral]

im not gonna lie maybe it will be easier to learn if you work your way up to 60

[spark crown]

try nearly 200 O_O i started at night 193

[shy moat]

I did just get offered Tall Order! And I took it!

[signal coral]

seems rough to just die repeatedly in ephyra or whatever because you dont even have experience with the later fights

[fierce citrus]

thats what im doing did 40 won first try 45 took 2 tries 50 first try

[signal coral]

so even if you high roll a run you will just run into rivals prom or whatever for the first time and get owned

[rare ermine]

The power of the 60f spite runs

[spark crown]

tbh i actualy dont care about working up to 60 cuz im enjoying mastering each area

[signal coral]

i did 50 but i take too much damage to enable max pain/scars

[rare ermine]

Metal is doing sisyphus strats

[signal coral]

so I probably won't climb higher than that until I learn to dodge better

I did do first try 50 underworld

surface took 3 tries I think

[fierce citrus]

honestly you start getting used to it

[fierce citrus]

yea fair i have not tried uw yet and i dont play on it

[signal coral]

underworld is for the most part easier

though the timer pressure is in erebus rather than olympus

[fierce citrus]

boss fights are so annoying thats why i dont play it

[spark crown]

thats meeeeeee Jinx noises

[fierce citrus]

i know i have to put denial on but i really dont wanna

[spark crown]

you get used to it

same with hubris

[fierce citrus]

hubris is fine though

[rare ermine]

Forfeit is the most painful for me
My precious boons

[fierce citrus]

just get a decent magik regen you chilling

[shy moat]

I like denial

[fierce citrus]

ha ha gold

[opal pecan]

Hubris you only have to think about a little bit, Denial you have to think about more but is still fine like most of the time

[fierce citrus]

when would you consider taking wayward son off

[spark crown]

scars 4

:P

[signal coral]

yeah if you are running max scars you take it off

[rare ermine]

Chaos boon that heals you every room can heal through scars?

[signal coral]

actually there are some fates whim setups where there is 1 extra grasp leftover so might as well enable it anyways on those builds

[fierce citrus]

even if i take it off the 1 grasp can be invested in nothing

[fierce citrus]

yea thats what im running

[signal coral]

lol I just commented about that

[signal coral]

yes

[spark crown]

imagine not using void 3

[signal coral]

whats your arcana setup currently?

[fierce citrus]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzMsMywyLDYsMiwzLDIsNSwxLDEsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd

fear rn

is there an arcana website?

[tawny imp]

just had the most magick starved build of all time

[fierce citrus]

found it

[signal coral]

its the same website

[rare ermine]

Its in the other tabs of the webpage

[signal coral]

fear there isnt much to comment on besides void is usually taken last

[tawny imp]

Exceptional Talent + Fine Line + weed killer on Moros Torches

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/3zhkPX7

[tawny imp]

it was really strong on the second i got to use my attack when i wasnt standing still for tranq to proc

[fierce citrus]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMyIiwiYzMiLCJjNiIsImM3IiwiYzgiLCJjMTEiLCJjMTMiLCJjMTQiLCJjMTUiLCJjMTciLCJjMTgiLCJjMjMiLCJjMjQiXQ==

[rare ermine]

Wards-phobia

[fierce citrus]

anything but wards 🙏

[signal coral]

oh you play strength

[tawny imp]

32f surface is kinda kicking me down hard

[spark crown]

it just makes rooms take longer not even more difficult

[signal coral]

have you considered switching to dds?

[fierce citrus]

all the way was gonna do dd but ima push through it

[spark crown]

have you considered both

[tawny imp]

have you tried judgement tho

[fierce citrus]

peak setup

[fierce citrus]

lowkey judgment could be good then put 2 into void

or is it 3 idk

[signal coral]

if you are gonna take dds you can do something like this
https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMzIiwiYzUiLCJjNiIsImM3IiwiYzEwIiwiYzExIiwiYzEyIiwiYzEzIiwiYzE0IiwiYzE1IiwiYzE3IiwiYzE4IiwiYzI0Il0=

[tawny imp]

unironically i am a huge judgement defender even without void

[signal coral]

judgement is a meme run unless you are doing 65 exactly

its just far less consistent than taking real arcana

[tawny imp]

i struggle with the endgame way more so judgement is kinda nice actually

[spark crown]

using it rn

[fierce citrus]

night dosent work the best with torches i think id just switch dd and strength around on my build tbh

[tawny imp]

with fates whim active you're essentially getting all the arcanas anyways consistently

[spark crown]

3 gives you 6 grasp to work with

[fierce citrus]

you could do that

[signal coral]

i dont even really think judgement makes you signficantly stronger in the endgame

[fierce citrus]

then just take away return and denial 😂

[signal coral]

with fates whim you already have enough grasp to turn on mostly what you want

[edgy nacelle]

judgement at low to medium fear sounds... not for me but I guess okay?
but at 50+ erebus is usually very scary when it comes to timer, and getting some extra late game damage is (imo) not worth having an awful early game

[signal coral]

so you can just take what you want from the start

like what are you missing with fates whim?

[fierce citrus]

isent erebus like the fastest region

[signal coral]

the next best options that you dont take in a typical 50 setup is like... eternity

or excellence

[signal coral]

erebus is the slowest region in terms of timer

[edgy nacelle]

for 62 fear? erebus is like... the only region where I'm scared of timer, at all

[signal coral]

for underworld runs on high fear, timer pressure is in erebus

for surface runs the timer pressure is mainly in olympus

[fierce citrus]

oh did not relise tbh

[signal coral]

erebus is long and doesnt have many boons

especially after onion

[edgy nacelle]

you can leave erebus with 1-2 total boons lol, with bad rng, and hecate has a lot of ways to waste your time

[signal coral]

so its very easy to time out

[broken spoke]

Here some ashes and bones instead

[fierce citrus]

yea had a minute on prom which isent to bad but its the lowest ive ogtten so far

[signal coral]

also oceanus is the fastest region on average

[edgy nacelle]

onion + debt + relying on artificer to roll a boon instead of a hex/max magick buff means there's a ton of variation in how strong you can get for Hecate
surface I'd imagine doesn't have that issue as much since Ephyra is.... Ephyra, but I have yet to try surface 62s

[signal coral]

so if you get past erebus you can build a time buffer in oceanus and carry it through the rest of the run

[fierce citrus]

just run surface trust

[signal coral]

ephyra is very chill in the surface but olympus is incredibly hard on the timer

[fierce citrus]

ephyra fun as hell and you melt poly tbh

[spark crown]

im having issues with timer in ephyra XD

[signal coral]

so if you dont have like 1-2 min of buffer coming out of ephyra you can have huge issues in olympus

[edgy nacelle]

I mean hey, now that I cleared UW 62 that is in fact my next goal 😤 so I'll try

[spark crown]

half respect :P

[signal coral]

olympus can have some terrible rooms, is just an overall very long region, and also the prometheus fight is incredibly long

because of the forced phase transitions wasting a lot of time, and also the fight just has a massive hp pool

[spark crown]

have we heared anything from mr faker :P

[signal coral]

at the very least summit is fast so if you live olympus timer you usually dont need to worry too much in summit

[fierce citrus]

idk i feel surface would be easier it has easier rival fights you get your build immediately its just learning the enemy moves in normal rooms cause if you get hit you might as well just reset your run

[signal coral]

surface enemies are ass

like theres some incredibly cursed enemy combos sometimes

[fierce citrus]

demeter cast solves everything

[spark crown]

my nemisis is anchor guys

[edgy nacelle]

yeah, my impression is that high fear surface is really just "normal enemies + prom" for the most part

[broken spoke]

I hate those olympus robot

[signal coral]

well you need to learn the typhon fight

which is not free

[fierce citrus]

prom is scary but just get the dash faster boon from hermes and its less freighting

[signal coral]

it seems okay at first since most of the stuff is dodgeable with practice but his moves do so much damage that even if you get hit once you can get ended

[tawny imp]

ive started to do 1 run of hades 2 every time i finish a unit of study for my midterm and it unironically made me lock in way harder during my runs

pro tip for high fear runners here

[signal coral]

typhon laser is 140 damage in phase 4 and phase 5

[tawny imp]

i hate rivals typhon genuinely i dont think its a fun boss

[fierce citrus]

what????

[tawny imp]

*when i have time 3 on

[fierce citrus]

dont hate on rivals typhon when theres syclla and hecate

[tawny imp]

ive only fought him with time 3 on and i hate that theres sections where im forced to just waste time on

[fierce citrus]

i cant lie i phase him immediately with grit 3 on so i dont really struggle

[edgy nacelle]

yeahhh, from my 40f and 45f surface attempts with rivals 4 ik typhon is very.... well. I'd say chronos is harder overall but typhon is more punishing. we'll see how I feel at 62, it took me ages to get past chronos even after I was able to consistently get to p3, and I suspect it'll take me more tries to get a consistent olympus but fewer tries to beat typhon overall

[tawny imp]

also yoo i finally got the last hypnos vapor if he doesnt give anything good im gonna flip

[broken spoke]

||How do you want to flip||

[fierce citrus]

the main reason i dont want to play uw is rivals Chronos

[signal coral]

it took me 3 tries to do 50 fear surface
and honestly the first two tries both died in thessaly

[spark crown]

||front or backflip ||

[signal coral]

if the build is bad and thessaly has some bad olympus enemy spawns it can get really cursed

like fangs anchor + armored auto watcher on a small ship

and my life is ended

[spark crown]

mhm T-T

[signal coral]

i will say that the chronos fight grew on me

it was really hard at first due to all his moves being changed

[tawny imp]

oh my god this mf bum

[signal coral]

but its kind of fun now

[spark crown]

im bout to do half respect 60f uw

[fierce citrus]

its sick as hell dont get me wrong but i have to learn it

[signal coral]

though still very punishing

[spark crown]

anchors are pissing me off

[tawny imp]

he shouldve lowkey died in the house of hades tbh

[edgy nacelle]

same actually
it's kind of fun to punish him in p3, honestly p2 is my least favorite now because the tempi are annoying (and maybe moreso w hordes, idk, how much it boosts them)

[fierce citrus]

hypnos aint do nothing wrong

[spark crown]

dont do my boy sleep like that

[signal coral]

also are you aware that the crossroads site also takes clear submissions and tracks stats?

[tawny imp]

you have no idea i spent like 10 runs trying to find the last poppies i needed for him for the first favor and all i get is 8 hours of time wasted

[fierce citrus]

yea theres the two shades one your run history and stats

[signal coral]

no i mean the website you were using for arcana and fear

[fierce citrus]

imagine they had a boss rush

oh hold up

[signal coral]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/Query

[fierce citrus]

lemme do that

[signal coral]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearPoints

for example, those tabs

[fierce citrus]

this is sick as hell

[signal coral]

yeah its an excellent website

you can also look at stats pages like this:
https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/StatsCodex

filter by aspect and fear level to see what the good players are doing

[fierce citrus]

aspect of supay is the best torch didnt expect that

[tawny imp]

heaven splitter or seething marauder for nergal

[signal coral]

well i would take total clears with a grain of salt

[fierce citrus]

how does it even track all this thats wild

[tawny imp]

my instinct tells me marauder for whirlwind

[signal coral]

its all manually submitted

[fierce citrus]

nah looking at high fear

[signal coral]

the weapons with lots of clears are mostly the weapons that the high fear runners like to run

[fierce citrus]

damn imagine sg had an actul website and you could sign into it for your own account

[signal coral]

there are also weekly challenges that bump up popularity for some weapons

for example last week's challenge was mel coat

so a lot of high fear runners ran that weapon and submitted their runs

which is why theres a lot of mel coat runs on the leaderboard now

[fierce citrus]

yea that makes sense

didnt that thing happen today

the twitch rivals or whatever

[signal coral]

that was a speedrun competition

but yeah it happened today

[fierce citrus]

lowkey wanted to watch it but forgot

[spark crown]

lvl 1 nergal is popping offff

[rare ermine]

Guys why is it when I switch to Eos I can get to chronos just fine but on Selene I have to fight tooth and nail to get my win

[opal pecan]

It was about eh, eight hours ago? So possibly you were busy during

[oblique hazel]

how

[signal coral]

yeah its because coat is hard

[fierce citrus]

coat

[spark crown]

cuz im jus that good

[signal coral]

im not gonna say its terrible because good players have shown that it can be played well

[edgy nacelle]

Eos is simply really good 😔 🌅

[tawny imp]

because eos is good and selene sucks

[spark crown]

in 300 runs youd hope id be

[signal coral]

but coat is kind of hard

[fierce citrus]

yea wasnt home makes sense

[oblique hazel]

selene coat moment

[fierce citrus]

now do aspect of artemis level 1

[oblique hazel]

the runt of the coat litter unfortunately 💔

[tawny imp]

meet potential aspect

[spark crown]

cuz geting coat godsent is hard

[true gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459353369174081538/1435872403644354580/image.png?ex=690d8be2&is=690c3a62&hm=34931bd27bf0bd5ab13124db872bda9067e9fb626b1671ec058748cc1b041b80&

@azure notch

[spark crown]

cant all sisterblades are maxed

[true gust]

Okay that was even broken

[rare ermine]

Youre telling me i just made my life 16489% harder by playing selene 💀

[true gust]

forget what I said about persefona aspect

[fierce citrus]

unmax them

[meager wadi]

whats the typical 32 fear set up, keeping rivals 4 frenzy 2 and warden

[true gust]

charon aspect with this build Ive made

[fierce citrus]

they should add an incantation to undo aspect upgrades

[true gust]

was broken

[fierce citrus]

yes

[oblique hazel]

ngl the best way to play selene coat is probably ignoring the aspect for the most part

[spark crown]

its called 60f :P

[opal pecan]

Then just play Mel coat for the speed bonuses :P

[signal coral]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwzLDIsNSwwLDIsMiwwLDYsMCwyLDIsOF0=
remove whatever you dont want to play until you get to 32

[oblique hazel]

they youve got slower mel coat with an ok hex

[signal coral]

can add rivals 4 if you want to do rivals 4

[fierce citrus]

yea and honstly your better off with a different hex

just play normal coat lmao

[tawny imp]

whyd they make selene hex so bad

[oblique hazel]

thats right everyone should play mel coat now...

[spark crown]

hexs arnt bad they are just not optimal

[tawny imp]

i mean specifically the coat hex

[fierce citrus]

omega attack spam on coat is fun i cant lie

[opal pecan]

Skyfall ain't that bad, just not especially safe for substantial fear

[oblique hazel]

wolf howl and twilight curse are goated

[fierce citrus]

yea time slow or moon water (no scars or 1 scar) is just better

[tawny imp]

Coat would be way more fun imo if omega special wasnt garbage

i really like the idea behind it but its just not good

[opal pecan]

Take that back right now

[fierce citrus]

yea its so wierd when moving it around i wish it wasnt like that

[oblique hazel]

ive learned to love the omega special

[spark crown]

night bloom moon water

[signal coral]

omega special is the better omega move

omega attack is kind of awful

[oblique hazel]

the base special is so innacurate that the omega special is really good for single target

[fierce citrus]

i guess you have not done omega attack one tap build

[signal coral]

omega attack is kind of awful

[oblique hazel]

omega attack is good but hard to use well

it sucks if youre omega attacking off of dash attack but its good otherwise so you gotta work around it weirdly

[spark crown]

oattack coat saved a max rivals run vs eris

[tawny imp]

anyways who cares about omega attacks the only relevent part of coat is DASH ATTACK BABYYY I LOVE MY DASH ATTACK GIVE ME EXHAUST RISER

[oblique hazel]

cancelling your sprint with a special, waiting for like a millisecond and then omega attacking is reeeaaally nice i love it for the tentacles in the scylla fight

[tawny imp]

coat dash attack unironically one of my favorite base moves in this game i wish rest of coat moveset was as fun

[hazy merlin]

im pretty sure im on like testament 2 for coat and basically finished all the other ones @_@

[oblique hazel]

coat dash strike is so nice but i like the rest of the kit just as much ngl

[rare ermine]

I do not like the coat dash cuz i just want to charge my forcefield

[oblique hazel]

the coat is so flowy in combat i love it

[meager wadi]

what are moros best boons? would you want dmg% on atk or pos/hes

[tawny imp]

i run DMG% on attack and Zeus on special

[oblique hazel]

exhaust riser is so cool but have you heard of launcher frame my beloved

[fierce citrus]

posiden ares wave duo is very fun

[rare ermine]

Then i realize that some of the most common attacks are unblockable. Truly one of the weapons of all Time

[fierce citrus]

i dont think it matter to much tbh you can even swap it around

[signal coral]

if you have magick you have damage on moros
so sort out your gain and you can take most boons on attack/special and its good enough

[opal pecan]

As a coat ought to be

[tawny imp]

devs looked at Hades 1 shield and decided theyre not gonna do that mistake again

[fierce citrus]

majority are blockable tbh

[oblique hazel]

zeus special is great and % i think is pretty standard on attack but anything works since with the explosions every attack hits twice making poseidon and hestia pretty nice

[fierce citrus]

its just anything on the ground isent

[meager wadi]

how close to do u have to be for glamor gain btw? same as max dmg for atks?

[oblique hazel]

i think this was more of an early access issue tbh

[tawny imp]

moros torches are just dummy damage no matter what you run tbh

i like the % for atk because big number

[signal coral]

do not take glamour gain on moros

[fierce citrus]

thats why they the goat

[signal coral]

aphro gain sucks on torches

[meager wadi]

it wasa a seperate question but ya

[oblique hazel]

anchors and cerb slams are the big unblockables as are like fire stuff on the ground

[signal coral]

the glamour gain range is slightly closer than the axe omega attack range

[fierce citrus]

it probably is

[signal coral]

they're almost the same i think

[meager wadi]

assuming aphro atk is not ideal as well?

[rare ermine]

Yeah that would have been awesome to know before i switched to eos

[oblique hazel]

unblockable shows up in big red letters pretty often so its memorable but half the time i realize it was just a fire thing on the ground i was standing on lol

[meager wadi]

on the moros

[fierce citrus]

its not to bad but theres better

[signal coral]

look with moros if you do not run out of magick and your attack/special boons exist you will probably deal enough damage

[oblique hazel]

yeah unless you get island getaway which isnt consistent

[tawny imp]

you never appreciate gain boons as much as you do until you run torches once

[oblique hazel]

also just looked though the 67 fear clears and someone did it with mel skull thats so cool

seeded but nevertheless

[signal coral]

some of the chinese high fear clears on the crossroads are slightly fraudulent since they save/quit

still takes a good player to do it

[tawny imp]

its called moros torches because you wanna spam Omega attacks with it, so it's more Os

[signal coral]

but its a bit different than clearing with no resets

[meager wadi]

most hammers p good for moros?

[signal coral]

channel speed on your omega attack is the best

[oblique hazel]

moros isnt super hammer dependant

[signal coral]

if you have channel speed then attack speed also becomes good

otherwise you probably want to take a special hammer i think

[oblique hazel]

i like enduring coil for the extra special uptime

[signal coral]

hermes is also very good because he can give you channel speed

[meager wadi]

i was wondering in an earlier moros, if you have a dmg% atk would the 10+power or 30% more atk dmg come out to more?

not sure what the numbers look like

[edgy nacelle]

I'd guess +10 power but that's based off of vibes, not math
moros already gets a damage% bonus on the exploding attacks, which will stack additively with the 30% and a dmg% attack boon🤷

[tawny imp]

my poissibly hot take grisly gain is actually a good gain boon

[split igloo]

Is it bad that I avoid hammers when running torches? The only ones I actually found useful were the: attacks go further and do more damage, O Special charges faster and costs -10, O attack is faster and -1. The power boosts didn't really help me much ever.

And the lingering +2 sec dash attack forgot about that one

[fierce citrus]

What about your omega special has an extra projectile

[opal pecan]

That seems like plenty of useful hammers

[fierce citrus]

That does a lot

[split igloo]

I'd rather a boon tbh. Any boon.

[fierce citrus]

And honestly they help more then you expect

[fierce citrus]

Your missing out lol

[split igloo]

I take chaos over hammers

[fierce citrus]

Espically if you have a percentage special boon it does a lot

[fierce citrus]

Idk I’d recommend taking hammers still at least just one of them

[edgy nacelle]

ok looking at this more thoroughly, base power will affect your regular attacks more, and more % will benefit your Ω attack more (assuming both explode)
however, that's without any other sources of damage%. add in origination, furies, and something like sworn strike and base power will come out on top

I did a lot of very basic math adding in just sworn strike, at which point the gap was tiny lol and base power was only barely worse for Ω attack explosions, then remembered origination exists and uh. yeah, +10 power wins

[meager wadi]

ty for that

[edgy nacelle]

it prob is situational tho, like if you have blitz attack + a lot of channel speed then things are different
but anyway 🤷 should be generally accurate

[tawny imp]

im sorry my goat icarus i was not familiar with your game

i took the exploding armor perk and did half of Eris's HP

[split igloo]

Sea Star + Supply Chain always makes me happy

[spark crown]

HAHA YES

[fierce citrus]

Had 1 more shield left and accidentally got hit in the chamber before eris

[rare ermine]

so you know that meme where rock lee takes off his training weights. thats me but with selene

i got a 50f dub

its was so easy i almost thought i was running low fear

[floral obsidian]

I just found out that you can phase skip Extreme measure Chronos' phase 2 death ring barrage at the start of phase 2 if you can do enough damage

[spark crown]

You can tell when a user is primaraly a hades 1 gamer XD

[split igloo]

I found out the other day Deep Dissent makes the swirly things in Typhon's last phase not show up.

[rare ermine]

Ok so what benefits do i get when i submit my application to the 50f club

[edgy nacelle]

the paperwork for the 54, 55, 60, and/or 62 fear clubs free of charge

[spiral wadi]

privilege

[edgy nacelle]

(also a lot of excited congrats and conversation + curiosity abt your high fear takes 👀 from me)

[spiral wadi]

we're discussing gatekeeping high fear discussion to 67 only, sry 62 is too ez rn /j

[rare ermine]

Does the membership come with a gift basket

[spiral wadi]

if u ask nicely

reminds me i have a h2 physical switch edition coming on the 20th just cuz i wanted the art compendium lmao

[rare ermine]

Because dang i actually thought this game was brutal but it turns out it was just the selene coat 😔

[junior trail]

You earn the sacred right to look at someone’s build and go, “bro what are you doing ur setup is so ass”

[spiral wadi]

yea selene coat is kinda ehh in high fear rn

coats r like good but gets kinda too technical to be usable for climbing high fear

not that it'd be impossible but like compared to mel/circe staff, moros, medea, etc

50f is still very impressive tho

what was ur fear setup

[rare ermine]

Give me a min to post it

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwyLDYsMywzLDIsNSwwLDIsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd

[spiral wadi]

standard setup, very nice

[fierce citrus]

You posting it on the website?

[rare ermine]

No just here

Should i post to the website?

[spiral wadi]

ur allowed to post ss to website ye

[fierce citrus]

Gotta pop that triple pain and grit

[fierce citrus]

Didn’t you say you were?

[fierce citrus]

Oh wait

[edgy nacelle]

just ss, no recording needed?

[rare ermine]

I meant post here in chat

[fierce citrus]

Ohhhh

Dw im dumb

[spiral wadi]

i was told ss ye

at least im p sure

[edgy nacelle]

hm, neat. maybe I'll post my charon 62 then, I wasn't recording since I didn't think it was going to work lol

[tawny imp]

What’s considered high fear

[spiral wadi]

prob 32+

[tawny imp]

Oh that’s not that high

I’ve already won that

[fierce citrus]

I’d say 40+

[tawny imp]

I assumed it would be like at least 50

[spiral wadi]

prob like above 40 to 50 range

[broken spoke]

Keep raising the number

[fierce citrus]

32 in hades 2 is easy you don’t even need to add and modifiers to the enemies

[edgy nacelle]

it really depends on the context
if someone says a weapon is bad at high fear I assume they mean like... 50+, since before that most things feel at least decent.
but high fear in the context of "is this player just doing low fear fun runs or pushing fear higher" then above 32 is already more than the game asks you to do

[spiral wadi]

tru

[fierce citrus]

Yea fair the game Isent “hard” until 40-50

[tawny imp]

I think I’ll get 32 fear on all weapons surface and underground before moving onto 40+

[fierce citrus]

Like you can get by 40 or less without to much practice I feel

[rare ermine]

@fierce citrus what do i put in the name section of the run submition?

[edgy nacelle]

I think you mean @spiral wadi

also hopefully just the name you want the record to be under since otherwise I did mine wrong

[viral yew]

My run still hasn't been approved 😭

[rare ermine]

theres too many reds on this server

[edgy nacelle]

the shiva speed you mean? :/

[viral yew]

Yep

[edgy nacelle]

rip
I think the speedrun board has more moderation than crossroads, I didn't realize all you need there is a screenshot + a form

[spiral wadi]

u can just put any name u want, as long as u maintain consistency for future submissions

[fierce citrus]

Put your name under Selene hater

Trust

[rare ermine]

disintegrate.gif

[fierce citrus]

Nah engagement bait

[manic shuttle]

what's the website you guys are talking about

[edgy nacelle]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev
good for sharing fear/arcana loadouts, also has a leaderboard etc

[manic shuttle]

ha ok, didn't realize you could submit runs here

[fierce citrus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/U-wwwPi_n44?si=PvMwctjSgFW_qODg

Just saw this video today lol

Abit late I think

[spark crown]

Judgement with a 10% pick rate is crazyyyy

[nimble lichen]

anyone a coat build?

[spiral wadi]

prob cuz no one really plays 65f rn

62f is hard but it's still fun, 65f is uhhhh

manageable but difficult, i'd say it's like pre-1.0 62f difficulty

[spiral wadi]

scorch or splash atk with exhaust riser is fun

u kinda just dash attack and win game

[nimble lichen]

so i am gonna assume that the hermes dash boon is broken on this

[spiral wadi]

prob actually yea

i never thought about it cuz i never get that boon but yes

[spark crown]

I'm using it for 60f

:P

[tacit crow]

What is the arcana setup for morrigan speed running?

[digital juniper]

have you considered that’s exactly why you haven’t gotten past hecate?

[spark crown]

Only the last 10/119 runs have been with judgement and I've been doing better with it

[digital juniper]

considering you haven’t gotten past hecate before, that’s genuinely not why it works

definitely just confirmation bias

[spark crown]

[digital juniper]

i’m rooting for you btw but you’re just shooting yourself in the foot😭

[spark crown]

no no shooting my self in the foot is using lvl 1 nergle :)

[digital juniper]

oh yeah no definitely DONT do that

[spark crown]

Would you belive using it i got poly down to 1 tap XD

imagine what i could do if i did my testements XD

poly and medea do like comboing me tho

ill get hit by poly then boom poison ball to the side

[junior trail]

3 trillion strikes to proc berserk pog

[spark crown]

🫸

[olive tusk]

Ospam Nergal is pretty viable

even with 3 trillion strikes to proc berserk

[spark crown]

who spams omega moves smh :p 🫸

i might do my testements -_-

[fierce citrus]

omg returnal is so annoying

im genuienly going to turn it off and put scars 3

[spark crown]

me but wards

i turned off wards and put on void XD

[oblique hazel]

now i dont know if its that annoying

[fierce citrus]

its that annoying

well i did not first try 55 fear

is taking time piece better then calling card in the second region so you can purge onion?

i feel like its better but once you get to 3rd region theres not much you want to rarify idk

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/MLwyhnT

the god roll ...... and its not 60f cuz i needed nightmare

[rare ermine]

Omg metal is doing testaments for n.mare

Im so proud that he finally let go of his hubris

[spark crown]

-_-

welp thats the end of that :P

🫸

"what goes up has to come down cheating death"🎶🎶🎶

https://imgur.com/CQOCrtg

not even close babyyyyy

[rare ermine]

Your hubris will be your downfall

[spark crown]

whatttt nooo neverrr

https://imgur.com/codJoUG

holy second good role

[fierce citrus]

wtf does the friken shooter guys shoot from where i cant see

like they get auto aggroed even if they are not in mny pov

[spark crown]

may time flow freely forth

[digital juniper]

yeah it’s more valuable than calling card unless you’re trying to highroll a big hermes boon

[spark crown]

hera demeter ares pool goes hard

along with getting universal donor 4th boon

[fierce citrus]

i just had the worst two rooms known to man back to back

a room full of satyr sappers and they all had shield they all had the sucking perk and the cloud that makes you go slow when you run into it and the next room it was just 50 of the satyr sappers as well as another 100 of the autoseekers who had armour

i had hope that i was gonna win then that happened 😭

is there any way to replay your run? as in rewatch it

[spark crown]

hit undo before you die and pray it dosnt change much

[thorny raft]

are there any cases where howling soul is good

[fierce citrus]

i was a hater at first but its genuienly goated

for kbm idk how it is on controller

[spark crown]

no

it makes you stop in place instant bottom of list

[thorny raft]

it says it seeks projectiles but it never feels like it does

[manic shuttle]

it's like always good since tracking is fixed in the last patch

[spark crown]

it works like the cast from hades 1

https://imgur.com/JUICeOw

https://imgur.com/e4ANPOE

[rare ermine]

tall order or rally cry

[spark crown]

Proper upbringing

rarified 10 boons XD

maybe 8 i cant count tbh

[rare ermine]

and it bypasses hubris prime

[spark crown]

if only i was doing 60f but here i am farming testiments -_-

[fierce citrus]

ok curiosity what can turn you into a sheep when your on the raft?

[spark crown]

a fangs modifier

[fierce citrus]

alright i got suprised then took 90 damage

now going to eris with 10 hp

[spark crown]

T-T

[fierce citrus]

ok yea 55 fear on strength is not being kind 😭

[junior trail]

holy hell 10 earths

[rare ermine]

i sure hope i wasnt spreading misinformation to that dude i talked to in gen-chat. hopefully he gets it

[jovial glen]

what are the best builds for 24+ fear

[spark crown]

mhm

ares hera demeter apollo in pool

such a good run only to lose to typhoon

https://imgur.com/WyU0Yir

[flint widget]

ok finally got that 50 fear surface wr

[spark crown]

1.5x respect cuz wr

could be 60f tho :P

[flint widget]

theres no 60 fear category on speedrun.com

[spark crown]

nnooooooooooo

[flint widget]

still no update from mr faker is crazy tho

[viral yew]

Nah he's long gone

[flint widget]

still here but inactive huh

[viral yew]

Noone has seen him for a while

I can't find his profile tho hmm

Oh he's still here

@gentle widget

[flint widget]

pinging him is bold

[viral yew]

I'm in the mood for violence

[flint widget]

by the time mr faker responds id have probably beat 62 fear all aspects and regions lmao

[spark crown]

Same Xd

(im still stuck region 1 XD)

[spark crown]

He's not XD if you clink on the ping he's been removed XD

Wait he might have blocked me XD

I can't see he's in the server other than in the members list Xd

[gentle widget]

yes i am here

[rare ermine]

faker what did you think of doran this worlds

[gentle widget]

and no 62 was too hard i couldnt do it

[spark crown]

You were only ment to do 60 XD

[gentle widget]

hes doing his job, most of the time, maybe he'll clutch in the finals

[rare ermine]

yeah sometimes his plays are wayy too crazy but thats my goat right there

[spark crown]

I definitely think I'm blocked XD

Mission 50% complete

[viral yew]

So you are bad

[spark crown]

He doesn't have my indomitable will

[flint widget]

im only watching

[gentle widget]

i mean yea he's totally champions level, just probably not around long enough to have mind blowing highlights

[gentle widget]

yes, so are you gonna tell me running DD+strength to get the duo boon card is a shjt build as well?

[spark crown]

No way we still crying about this XD

[viral yew]

Yes

[spark crown]

I wonder how many 62f attempts he did

[gentle widget]

ok

[viral yew]

I mean I almost did 62f first attempt so it's not even that hard idk what he's complaining about

[spark crown]

I'm chilling on 60 because I did take a huge jump

I'd just have to re add wards to reach 62

[gentle widget]

i die too much its not a fun experience

[viral yew]

Skill issue

[spark crown]

I've done 119 60f runs and died everytime dying is part of the learning experience

[viral yew]

Taking max scars or pain over wards is nutty asf

[flint widget]

that's bold

[spark crown]

Neither void

[gentle widget]

ok bro whatever u say

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/EJE2Ccv

[viral yew]

I respect the vision

[spark crown]

oh wait i do have max pain XD

was running lvl 1 nergal for a good 10 runs XD

[viral yew]

You were the one talking mad s**t, couldn't even back it up

[flint widget]

lvl 1 nergal!?

[spark crown]

mhm

[flint widget]

bro that's unplayable lmao

[gentle widget]

i think you're just grouping with the majority here to feel good bro, good luck with your insider fame

[viral yew]

Unrelated side note, have you ever seeked medical help for a potential autism diagnosis

[spark crown]

XD its not autism (probably) its adhd

[viral yew]

That makes even more sense

[spark crown]

tis the adhd with the australian stubbornness

[gentle widget]

it shows alot the best you can do to troll is using the mpreg emoji

[flint widget]

getting ragebaited with an emoji is crazy

that's literally 1/10 ragebait

[spark crown]

yeah he was chatting alot then blocked me (i assume as he refuses to acknowledge my msg) cuz we called him out

[viral yew]

Damn straight, you're doing us proud

[gentle widget]

who the h3ll are you to set the standard of what pisses people off?

[flint widget]

that's the same equivalent of getting annoyed with squeaky shoes

[viral yew]

Shows alot that it's working

[spark crown]

i cant put reactions on his message HES DEFINITELY HAS ME BLOCKED XD

The funny thing is the main thing I did was challenge him to do 60f surface XF

[gentle widget]

yea <@&456908176877551658> i am getting my opinions discarded by people saying i suck at the game and they pinged me back just to tell me i am bad at the game again

[spark crown]

Crazy work

[viral yew]

LMAO go cry to the moderators little boy the internet people are being mean

[spark crown]

Time to go pull the quote

[gentle widget]

[flint widget]

ok peace out i was never involved here in the first place

[verbal quartz]

enough.

[viral yew]

Fiiine

[verbal quartz]

If you cant be courteous to one another then do not say anything at all.

[spark crown]

can i send you a image of why this is mainly happening it was all cuz of 1 thing he said (mainly)

feel free to say no

[dreamy veldt]

Another beautiful day to spam momskull

[rain wagon]

Love the search function, thanks for letting me know to avoid an embarrassing death.

[surreal hazel]

Niiice

[verbal quartz]

I'll ping in @small wyvern, I'm on my way out the door.

[dreamy veldt]

I have hot pot at 15% and warm breeze and self healing #blessed

[spark crown]

Cool I'll go repull the ss (meh i have the message link so the mod can read when they show up)

but anyway can i have some tips for 60f other than lowering fear

[gentle widget]

cant stay out of an argument thats not even yours huh?

[spark crown]

Huh?

Argument over we ain't doing this again

You called the mod they stopped it

[gentle widget]

yea whatever, i did no wrong

[spark crown]

-_- if you say so

It's up to the mods not me

[flint widget]

but you being homophobic??

that's not wrong??

[spark crown]

Check we had a mod pop in let's not start the heat back up

[flint widget]

ok sure

i was just stating facts

i gotta get working on school stuff anyway peace

[dreamy veldt]

Stop

[spark crown]

^^^^

[gentle widget]

no, it's not contempt if i'm not telling people to dislike them as well

[spark crown]

Dude just drop it -_-

We are trying to move on

[gentle widget]

shut up

[spark crown]

but anyway can i have some tips for 60f other than lowering fear

[flint widget]

what were ur vows for ur 15 fear

[digital juniper]

have you considered lowering fear

[viral yew]

Play mel staff or circe

[spark crown]

uhhh ill go look

[flint widget]

also metal i think you should change ur nickname cuz it references the drama

just let it be metal

[spark crown]

good idea

i might leave the fear bit but drop the spite

[digital juniper]

no ok but on a real note @spark crown

for your vows, drop your silliness and do everything but scars 2 and no void, there’s no other way around it, get used to that

play with an actual safe high fear weapon, learn how to play circe and stick with it

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/2BsUZv1

some combo of these

[spark crown]

i had void on cuz i hate wards T-T and wanted it to still be 60

[flint widget]

yeah u should probably get used to frenzy

[spark crown]

https://imgur.com/JBPK7r5

oop

[digital juniper]

yeah no just don’t do that. if you actually want the 60f you gotta do wards and no void

[spark crown]

ok

[flint widget]

wards really isn't that bad tbh if u have a fast hitting weapon

[digital juniper]

idk what your keepsakes are but do jpom->time piece -> athena if you need DD refills->pin

[flint widget]

like say circe cuz cast boons basically remove wards

especially storm/smolder ring

[digital juniper]

if you lost all DDs in erebus, take athena region 2

[spark crown]

normaly go jpom -> card -> timepiece or athena -> knuckle bones

[viral yew]

Go jpom timepiece then card or athena

[flint widget]

if u have an ass timer coming out of erebus go for fig

[viral yew]

I like onion myself

[flint widget]

cuz like erebus is really really slow

max hordes return and wards in erebus is my worst nightmare

[spark crown]

mhmhm

[digital juniper]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMyIiwiYzMiLCJjNiIsImM3IiwiYzgiLCJjMTEiLCJjMTIiLCJjMTMiLCJjMTQiLCJjMTUiLCJjMTciLCJjMTgiLCJjMjQiXQ==

use this as your arcana setup, only change you could make is excellence vs boatman, but i prefer boatman for the erebus midshop boon guaranteed

[flint widget]

plus rarity is kinda overrated tbh unless the rarity scaling is a big difference

like say blitz