h2-builds-and-combat

[glass bone]

No, Sirens have had quite a few complaints.

Ok, to be fair… Sirens used to be worse in the past

[vital ledge]

eris deals way more damage with the lasers since 1.0. so there was a buff

[glass bone]

Charybdis used to shoot a lot more balls originally.

[cerulean panther]

She went from having perfect tracking with lasers to imperfectly tracking more damaging lasers.

[glass bone]

But even with the changes from Patch 10 and 11, you can find plenty of feedback in #h2-feedback to nerf Scylla more during the EA period.

[nova raven]

Eris fight is kind of a joke in comparison, I don’t even know how to deal with the plasma spheres she leaves on the ground and it still doesn’t feel difficult

[raven ivy]

I feel like Rivals Scylla deserves to be balls hard because it's one of the coolest fight concepts they could have possibly done

[glass bone]

Fair, but also Rival Scylla has more complaints than just balance

[raven ivy]

Like Eris using another rail aspect is alright but by virtue of it being a lazer the only way for them to deliver on it is making eris really bad at using the lazer

[glass bone]

There have also been complaints for visibility. Because the Roxy waves, Charybdis balls, and Jetty shockwaves are all semi-close colors of pink.

On top of the stage being a mix of blue, and purple or pink

[vital ledge]

he always destroyed exactly 1 well on each phase (when medea spams her poison around).
people just didn't get it in EA and assumed weird stuff hahaha. just go to another well. poly even jumped to the ones that got destroyed

[glass bone]

No, it was known eventually, but people didn’t like the learning process, so they chucked it out

[raven ivy]

people had an issue realizing there were wells at all

[vital ledge]

I have to admit, I also just followed poly, got poisoned and obviously I tried to take the closest well. which is the one he jumped on. RIP

[glass bone]

Yeah I never figured out the well mechanic until a dialogue mentioned wells, despite me playing Hades 1 and getting True Ending

[nova raven]

Eris really had one of the best weapons from hades 1, but preferred one of the worst ones

[cerulean panther]

Look, sometimes extremely refined taste can look crass or discordant.

Eris just knows.

[nova raven]

She is chaotic, so it feels in character

[raven ivy]

developers have learned many a time that sight is not the most consistent thing compared to text/speech

[vital ledge]

they just wanted us to finally listen to the damn music! 🎵 and not delete her in seconds

[craggy spear]

Which god is "strongest" and "weakest" in your opinions?

[cerulean panther]

Hera is strongest.

I don't know who the weakest is.

[nova raven]

I think each god can be useful in some way

I think Hephaestus is the hardest to make work, but his non offensive boons are great

So I guess he feels like the weakest one?

[craggy spear]

I love Heph's special thingy with the daggers.

[nova raven]

Zeus is the strongest one, his stuff works on almost every weapon

[craggy spear]

You can do a lot of damage from a distance

[vital ledge]

nah, trusty shield.
even if I don't get anything else from him, this is already good

[nova raven]

Yeah, i love his defensive boons

But not having a curse feels weak

Because origination is just too good not to run

[vital ledge]

he has a curse like poseidon. just need attack or special for it to show up. it is not good, but hey

[ripe wadi]

How do you build Thanatos axe?

Boutta try it out for the first time

[cerulean panther]

Heph's Curse can spawn off his Dash, too.

[nova raven]

It’s not viable to aim for that on semi high-high heat unfortunately

You need something easy to obtain like zeus/hera/hestia etc

[craggy spear]

I got Apollo's attack buff to increase my attack range or Hera's attack thingy

[vital ledge]

I think all gods have something good to go for.
before 1.0 I would have guessed apollo as the weakest, but now the gain is great. so I don't know.

[craggy spear]

My least favorite is Hestia, but I think my favorite is Demeter

[rare brook]

Apollo has excellent sprint and gain, hepha defensive boons, hestia cast etc

You can make use of any god, maybe just not in every slot

[nova raven]

Every god has something good, that’s for sure

[rare brook]

For example Zeus gain feels strange to me

[nova raven]

It largely depends on which weapons you run

[craggy spear]

Zeus is fun but I only like him if I can buff the double lightning strike chance boon

Or if I get chain lightning

It's a nice bit of extra damage with Lim and Oros

[vital ledge]

still mad that heph's cast does not benefit from the other boons that buff his kling klong

[craggy spear]

Poke the HECK out of Kronos

[vital ledge]

like what's the difference between his cast and his special? I don't see it. other than it not having 5 years of cooldown and it might be too good

[cerulean panther]

You know how the lightning bolts from Storm Ring don't get the buffs that directly involve Blitz, like Arc Flash or Thermal Dynamics? It's like that.

[vital ledge]

but... big kling klong! you need to understand

[cerulean panther]

Look, I'm a fan of clangs.

I really like his Cast, it's funny with Charon or Winner's Circle, leaving a bunch of hammers on the field.

[vital ledge]

oh! I need to try that with winner circle. sounds fun

[balmy sun]

can you please help me understand, does sister blades Melinoes aspect backstab damage add up with apollo's boon and hammer upgrade or does it not?

[spiral wadi]

ye it's an additive bonus that stacks w other bonuses too

[hollow stag]

For Moros Flames with Hera Attack, Zeus Special, what should be used for Cast? Poseidon?

[spiral wadi]

i could see some flexibility, scorch cast could lead to thermal dynamics, tho lightning froth duo is good too

maybe aphro cast if u wanna group enemies together for moros

[tall notch]

@rugged moon the Unseen Nyx run could've happened but I died to Chronos p3 😔

[hollow stag]

Rush is also available too

[open vine]

How does the Infection Hex upgrade (Sublime/purple for Twilight Curse, inflicts all Curses you are able to) interact with Wounds (+50 Power for the strike that inflicts it, resets - and thus can be reapplied - after 3 seconds)?

[shy moat]

wounds do nothing when applied to a target that already suffers from them

also dipping my toes back into Hades 1 and the Heart Seeking Bow and wow does it make me feel sad that Pan is how it came to Hades 2.

Seeks so much better

[elfin widget]

My best build so far! It literally melted Typhoon in less than a min:
https://imgur.com/a/RP1Kr16

[open vine]

Right… but what about when Wounds are being applied by Twilight Curse? In particular, by that to a Guardian that’s not going to get Morphed?

Specifically, what happens when you hit route 2 boss 4 with it?

[shy moat]

the curse does some base damage, so it will do 50 more

[open vine]

Hrm.

[hollow stag]

Does Moros Flames benefit from Demeter's Weed Killer that boosts Omega Attack damage?

[glass bone]

It does yes, but it also makes your OAttack much more expensive (5 -> 15)

Born Gain builds are hurt a bit by doing Weed Killer for Moros. But if you take Flood Gain, then that downside can be ignored.

[hollow stag]

The explosions from Moros flames also gets boosted?

[glass bone]

I believe it should, yes.

[hollow stag]

Good to know. Picked that, then Aphrodite appeared. I can switch Hera's Attack to Aphrodite for double the bonus damage. I already have Hera on Special.

I was planning to get Zeus for Special...

[hazy forge]

Overall:
Zeus Strongest, Ares Weakest

For my favorite weapons:
Zeus Strongest, Poseidon Weakest

[rare brook]

I would say it's a matter of perspective, cause I myself love Ares with the bonus that you deal crits to wounded enemies

[shy moat]

that's a lot of boons to make Ares good

Though he was similar in the first game...

[torn granite]

Anyone know if theres a specific place for High Fear runs, like 32x?

[rare brook]

Umm... it's just two boons -> attack/special and then boon for critrs. Or if you are getting hit and don't care about it, then one boon

[shy moat]

I don't see the boon for crits pop up very often

anyway

I wouldn't call Zeus the best

it's very weapon dependent who you're going to like

[torn granite]

I never knew Ares was unpopular. I run with his keepsake like 80% of the time.

[shy moat]

mostly just his plasma mechanic is meh

[torn granite]

I can see that.

I hate the way the plasma bounces like, way away from the body. I get that its supposed to be blood spray. Figured it was a balancing thing.

[shy moat]

if it's a balancing thing it makes it so it's junk unless you get the legendary, which isn't a great balance

[torn granite]

I wouldnt call it junk, but yeah.

[rare brook]

I see so many Shiva's lately 🤔

[shy moat]

you usually lose effectiveness trying to collect Ares' drops, so actually getting more than a 3-4% boost (if that) during a fight is worse than if you didn't

[rare brook]

Unless you're already moving around map. For example to put cast for use circe aspect, then you may by a chance get drops

[shy moat]

granted, there's a few setups that can make use of something that's otherwise quite weak

That doesn't really make it good, though

[rare brook]

It's just so far playing Hades 2 I don't feel that anything is weak at all, just may require change in approach

[shy moat]

the Aspect of Pan would like a quiet word

[austere trail]

if you're playing 0F then aspect of pan works just as good

[rare brook]

Haven't used it so far since early access from one year ago, so very early. I'm enjoying Morrigan aspect though

[austere trail]

I've never used it for more than 0F so idk, but for me it works just fine

[rare brook]

0F? Like zero fate to roll?

[austere trail]

0 fear, sorry

[shy moat]

There's a difference between "can make something work" and "something isn't weak"

[austere trail]

I got one of my best runs with aspect of pan in uw

[rare brook]

How to define as weak anyway

[shy moat]

you can easily win 0 fear with aspect of pan and never once use its specials

[austere trail]

I extensively used its specials

[shy moat]

for aspect of pan, it's weak because it trades the bonuses other aspects get for a homing ability that's quite short range and can whiff at the middle of its range (The outer edges of the thrown fan can't curve hard enough to actually hit the target at certain ranges)

[rare brook]

To be fair I need to get used to close-range combat in Hades 2, cause it seems harder than in Hades 1

That's why I like Morrigan for it's bonks and Thanatos for it's AS, so that I have big advantage

[brazen wasp]

so im a bit confused i got storm ring and gale but my cast doesnt trigger origination?

thats not right is it?

[rare brook]

I don't think that gale freeze enemies

[austere trail]

gale doesn't apply a curse as far as I know

[sacred storm]

storm ring doesn't apply a status

[brazen wasp]

no but gust is a curse

[sacred storm]

demeter gales DO apply status but you can't stack it with freeze for origination because they're both from demeter

[rare brook]

Is it written as curse when you highlight it?

[austere trail]

oh huh

[brazen wasp]

oh crap ur right storm ring doesnt blitz damn

[torn granite]

I mean isn't there randomness to how many plasma we collect? I understand losing dps. I guess its an averages thing.

[rare brook]

Yeah, it needs to be from a different gods

[austere trail]

I'm stupid I thought you meant the familiar :)
but yeah they need to be curses from two different olympians

[brazen wasp]

what should i get then for my cast paranoid

[rare brook]

Umm... you can get some attack and then get origination bonus

Doesn't need to be from cast itself

[brazen wasp]

yea but im trying a cast only build with circe

[sacred storm]

if you're using it strictly for status then arctic gale + any of apollo, hera, poseidon, aphrodite, hestia will do (in roughly descending order of preference from a status pov)

[brazen wasp]

i got heroic ring atm and i got demeter

[sacred storm]

oh this is for circe

[brazen wasp]

i need another curse

[sacred storm]

honestly for circe i'd say stick with storm ring and use your attack or special to apply the other half of origination

but if you're insistent on a) single button build w/ cast and b) auto-origination on cast then the gods i mentioned are your only options

zeus, ares, and heph don't apply curse via cast and demeter can't double dip on freeze + gales

[brazen wasp]

i think imma try for gyeser cuz im using a lot of omegas

[sacred storm]

yes geyser spout is goated for o-cast builds

[brazen wasp]

im also hoping for apollo gain

[sacred storm]

with that in mind i suggest apollo cast, demeter arctic gale + local climate, poseidon geyser spout, ares meat grinder, ares/demeter hostile environment duo

that would be your ideal setup imo

oh and winners circle from hermes

obviously a lot of parts to find though

[brazen wasp]

what about glorious disaster@sacred storm

[rare brook]

I miss the mirror option from Hades 1 when having different gods boons would give dmg buff like origination. What if you don't want to apply curses?

[sacred storm]

funny but not worth it unless it got stealth buffed in 1.0

there's a secondary channel period that it requires, it takes forever even with channel speed bonuses

[shy moat]

spend the 5 points on something other than origination, then

[sacred storm]

i do wish they'd added, like, inverted arcana cards. would have been thematic (rl tarot also has inverse cards with different meanings to upright) and been an interesting way of presenting alternatives to some of the current must-takes.

[vital ledge]

now that I tried to sound so smart about scylla earlier, I almost got destroyed by her.
chaos curse +60% damage taken and an aspect I'm clearly not got with (pan). OUCH!
barely survived

[sacred storm]

rivals or regular?

[vital ledge]

rivals +40% speed

[sacred storm]

regular yeah i'm judging you a bit but rivals scylla is no joke

oh jeez and max frenzy too? yeah that's fine

[torn granite]

Rivals eris is my nemisis.

[vital ledge]

I don't know. I tried to do frenzy 1, rivals 4 but chronos is just too much for now. so I made it rivals 3, frenzy 2 which is infinitely easier for some reason

[torn granite]

Haven't gotten rivals chronos yet...

[sacred storm]

it's been a hot minute since i played with rivals but i seem to remember rivals chronos just having, like, weirdly long periods where he would dash and slash around with no real opportunity to do damage in return. very much a waiting game of sorts but instead of waiting you're running for your life.

[vital ledge]

all I know: without rivals 4 the run pretty much ends after cerby. with it I take every extra room in tartarus to get stronger and still lose more often than not. soooo rivals 4 bad for 32, at least for me. surface is fine though (frenzy 1! not 2!)

[rare brook]

Rivals eris got easier for me once I learned that you can attack those lucifer orbs from distance to make them explode, so that you don't step into them

[torn granite]

I just started frenzy on fear 16 and I feel like im having beginners luck but also im stubborn and wont turn off rivals

[rare brook]

I wonder if rivals 4 Chronos is harder than Typhon 🤔

[torn granite]

Her beams always catch me in the middle of shooting them i swear she reads me like a book*

[rare brook]

For me the babe is slow, but at the same time I only had frenzy vow at lvl 1

[vital ledge]

for me absolutely. haven't lost to typhon yet on the 1.0 file. if the damage (and gaming) is good enough to get past prometheus, it'll be fiiiiiine.

[rare brook]

Typhon can still me by surprise, I have hard time to avoid his projectiles

[torn granite]

Definitely can catch me off guard sometimes

Such a swingy area in general.

[cold tusk]

Your preferred familiar to use with Circe staff?

[craggy valve]

Damn, I think I almost beat Typhon on my first try. Does he really have 130K HP?!

[uneven palm]

65k

[dire shell]

What are the must takes? 😇

[rare brook]

Lovers, Centaur, Death or Strength

[craggy valve]

OK. I thought my Bones took away 5% (displayed as 6500). That’s how I thought it was 130K.

Might have changed to 10% en route.

[dire shell]

Ooh I stopped using Lovers cuz I was feeling cheap, but now that I’m on rivals… duh

[uneven palm]

Rivals bosses without lovers is pain

It’s the first thing I drop and then I miss it the most

[sacred storm]

in the general case, i'd say origination, persistence, enchantress, boatman, champions, and either death or strength (your choice but not both). if you're in postgame and playing with the fates whim keepsakes you can drop enchantress/boatman/champions.

oh and furies. furies is super good too.

wayward son is on my personal always-on list but if you're confident in your skill you can get away with it. sorceress is good but not mandatory good, and some builds don't care about omegas that much anyway. huntress depends on your weapon and aspect. lovers also falls under "really good but skippable if you're skilled" imo

(the safety net is super nice though)

[dire shell]

I’m so bad against rivals (especially Hecate) that lovers is probably a good idea to re-equip

[spiral wadi]

yea lovers gets big value for rivals

[dire shell]

I find rivals Hecate harder than rivals Typhon or rival Prometheus lol

[spiral wadi]

i can see it, even tho i disagree lol

[sacred storm]

rivals hecate is mostly hard because you don't have a lot of boons by the time you fight her

[dire shell]

Yeah exactly

[viral yew]

If you don't have a lot of damage it can take a while to kill her

[dire shell]

I don’t think I understand how to build to make her easier

She also punishes some weapons SO much, I find

[sacred storm]

honestly a lot of it is just trying to burst her down before she starts teleporting everywhere

if you can do that she's a lot easier

[sudden belfry]

how should i build circe?

[dire shell]

I just died to her on my first Nergal run and I’m a bit frazzled 😛

[sacred storm]

rivals hecate always opens with dark side so that keeps her in place for a bit

[viral yew]

You can get a couple of easy hits in before she starts firing

[ripe wadi]

What's a good magick gain for Thanatos axe? I got Apollo attack so I'm thinking hera maybe?

[sacred storm]

hera is always a good choice for magic tbh

[viral yew]

Axe really struggles with the fight sometimes

[sudden belfry]

kk!

[forest forum]

Do you think Wispy Wiles was hit too hard, or that it's better now? I deff think it was too good at 3% per Air. If you had a Zeus build, it was just free 20% or more dodge chance.

[sacred storm]

i forgot it got nerfed tbh

although i rarely build into dodge

[viral yew]

Dodge is nice but I never aim for it

[dire shell]

Goodness. These names are useless to know what’s what

[forest forum]

The problem was that it was just free. No downside in not taking it, and even better if built with dodge or Air Boons in mind.

[viral yew]

There is certainly a lot to memorise

[forest forum]

Hard to go wrong with Hera. Axe isn't spamming Magik, due to the duration of Omega Attack. If you're spamming Omega Special, you are probably running Charon Axe and want Lucid Gain.

Charon Axe does still work that way, right? I know Lucid Gain got buffed to not require you in the circle to receive the magick regen.

If it does, Lightning Lance with Lucid gain and Charon Axe sounds fun. Not sure about the timing with Hestia's version.

[split igloo]

you dont need to be in the cast which is a huge buff

[fierce current]

Not sure where to ask this so here seems to be the most spoiler allowed channel: There's a bunch of stuff still listed on the recycler as being needed for something.... is there any way to tell what it's for and how much I'd need? I feel like I'm deep in the endgame, approaching the epilogue soon. Or maybe better to ask if it might be marked as needed because of being used for decor or something or if all this stuff is gonna be used for some kinda plot relevant incantation at some point in my future?

[craggy valve]

I had a wonderful combination on my last run with Aphro’s Healthy Rebound and Dio’s Bounce Back. Run up to Typhon was cake. Too bad it couldn’t help out further.

[rare brook]

BTW I like that hermes boon to increase chance of procs buffs zeus legendary. You'll hear more often "shocking!", "zippying!" etc

[peak urchin]

what build should I go for for the aspect of thanatos

[nova raven]

There isn’t, as far as I know

I really wish there was but I guess they didn’t want to spoil it anywhere

[brazen wasp]

is marble rare

[ebon grove]

Non.

[brazen wasp]

just did 4 runs not a single marble in the last level

[spiral wadi]

isn't marble in olympus

iirc raki increases ore frequency

[brazen wasp]

isnt it in tartarus

[viral yew]

Marble is tartarus

Take raki

[brazen wasp]

i got no bits to level him tho

[viral yew]

You don't need to level him

[spiral wadi]

ah mb

[brazen wasp]

i need to beat typhon for true ending right

[viral yew]

Multiple times yea

[patent locust]

What are the best boons on thanatos aspect

[torn granite]

I use Ares to increase speed on than.

[sudden belfry]

are there any skull aspects worth investing in

[steep galleon]

All of them are pretty good

the non hidden aspects at least

[sudden belfry]

i see
is the hidden one...Not good

[brazen wasp]

hel is good afaik1

[sudden belfry]

ooh kk
what are the best boons for morrigan? i like freezer burn a lot but wanna try something new

[viral yew]

Heph

[sudden belfry]

ooh!

[torn granite]

Do you mean medea?

Im using mel skulls with hitch right now and it feels p good.

Persophones aspect does well with freeze.

Imo, just yapping.

[uneven palm]

Almost anything is fine on Morrigan but Apollo’s legendary is a fun high-roll

[cold tusk]

How do I reset the seed if I don’t like my first boon? Without dying purposefully, that is.

[edgy nacelle]

there's a late-game incantation that does this, but if you haven't unlocked it then your only option is dying.
that, or you can switch to a different god keepsake—afaik the types of boons + rarity should stay the same, so if you get offered an epic poseidon attack and you want dmg% you could grab hera or something

[cold tusk]

Thank you. Dare I ask, how far into late game? I’m doing my 32 fear underworld run now. About 110 nights in.

[edgy nacelle]

uhhh let me try to flag someone down in another channel, I'm on my early access save file so idr the requirements for it

[weary girder]

Man Fel is just so underrated

I understand that it only works with a specific build but damn just did a fear 20 run and it was my fastest ever without the legendary

[edgy nacelle]

someone said it's a post-epilogue incantation!
have you ||completed the prophecy about finding the fates?||
iirc the old requirement had something to do with getting night's champion statues, but the epilogue didn't exist yet when I got it

[cold tusk]

No, I don’t think I’ve completed that prophecy. I remember reading some of the list and the wording seemed vague….
But I am working on the third statue

[edgy nacelle]

then work on that prophecy and it should open up! you can prob ask for hints if part of it is too vague

[cold tusk]

Is it the Melinoë seek us prophecy? I figured that was just gain affinity.

[edgy nacelle]

yes, that one! what it tells you to do changes as you progress it, rn it sounds like it's prob a list of hints for characters to max bonds with/get dialogue from
||eventually it triggers the epilogue||

[frigid tartan]

Guys is winner's circle good for circe or charon cast builds? I would think I don't want my casts to expire faster, specially with ongoing effects like blade rifts, gusts or thunderbolts

Maybe I'm missing something but except of Apollo's magic recovery which triggers when a cast expires... Why would I want them to expire faster?

[edgy nacelle]

(winner's circle) circe yes but only sometimes, charon nah

[austere trail]

it's great for charon because your cast gets erupted when you omega special

[brazen echo]

Good on circe if you play with OCast

[rugged moon]

Its good for any cast thats a one time effect like pos, apollo, ares

[edgy nacelle]

avoid winner's circle on circe if you're playing zeus or hestia casts since it'll just lower the damage, but for anything else it's very nice.
for Ω cast effects like meat grinder and prominence flare winner's circle won't lower their uptime, since they happen after your cast circle disappears
(also ig avoid it for aphrodite and demeter cast, but I don't really use those on circe and if I do it's for defensive utility so. shrug, do what you want)

[rugged moon]

The blade rifts and other omega effects dont care about cast duration

[frigid tartan]

Exactly, if it expires faster there's even less time for my cast to be up before I hit it with special

[austere trail]

once your cast is up it won't go away in the time you use your omega special

[frigid tartan]

I just grabbed it with demeter cast F

[rugged moon]

Eh but also then it doesnt do anything

[austere trail]

also does it even expire faster? I don't remember that being a part of lucid gain

[rugged moon]

Winners circle is being discussed

[frigid tartan]

It's not lucid gain I'm talking about, I'm talking about winner's circle

[rugged moon]

Not lucid gain

[frigid tartan]

I said only lucid gain came to mind for wanting them to expire faster

[austere trail]

but I responded to this message, I thought it was about lucid gain, mb

[edgy nacelle]

if you're aiming for Ω cast damage it's still a net positive! it'll explode faster, and enemies will still stay frozen the full amount of time
demeter's cast itself will do fewer ticks of damage, but its damage is low anyway so getting faster omegas is worth it imo

[frigid tartan]

I'm trying it with the Circe chaos trial, and it's not so bad, but it's a bit weird having to cast it so frequently

[edgy nacelle]

and yeah I'd avoid winner's circle on charon, best case scenario it does nothing lol, since you manually pop your cast anyway
it does make lucid gain better on non-charon weapons as a flexible magic regen, tho!

[frigid tartan]

But I still wanted it since I had lucid gain

I had gotten it offered in previous circe runs and never took it because I had Zeus and hera casts, I'm glad I didn't take it

[vernal shuttle]

whats the best pet for circe aspect?

[frigid tartan]

Seems like Toula or Raki from my experience

[rugged moon]

Its good for hera cast because hera is a single damage tick

[frigid tartan]

Man, Roxxie featured artist on Scylla rivals is rough

Do people have trouble playing moros torches with controller? I often see mel throwing attacks all around her and missing targets when I attack while dashing, and this with moros requiring specific distance from the target really screws with me in more hectic fights

And I have aim assist enabled 😵

[sudden belfry]

whats a good build for the coat other than freezer burn
using selene if that matters

[brazen echo]

Pop apollo on special and try to fit ares somewhere so that your hex gets godsent

[sudden belfry]

kk!

[shy moat]

yeaaaah I just kinda mashed the special omega and let the attacks do whatever they wanted

[viral yew]

No

[frigid tartan]

Is moros torches range for explosions close enough to trigger aphrodite's close up damage bonus on attack?

[junior trail]

yes, the close-up range for flutter is fittingly around torches o.special

[peak urchin]

best boons for aspect of thanatos?

[uneven palm]

Big percent attack, weed killer

Or wield the forbidden tech of Hestia attack for a rad flaming whirlwind axe

[edgy nacelle]

how do you plan to play it?
Than axe can spam omega moves or just spam normal attacks with its fast attack speed, and those builds can go in pretty different directions 🤷

in general % attack boons are good for everything, tho

[spiral wadi]

poseidon atk meta

[uneven palm]

Dampatos

[peak urchin]

like aphordite?

[uneven palm]

I bet that’s actually pretty good with Jeweled Pom

[peak urchin]

ill have to try the hestia attack on it then lol

[edgy nacelle]

yeah sure
it's a very flexible weapon

[peak urchin]

just hit tartarus on this run with thanatos and I got the psychic whirlwind

very fun

[uneven palm]

That’s the best spin hammer yah

[peak urchin]

how do i get the ability to send images here? do i just have to talk a ton

[uneven palm]

Hestia isn’t insane you can add Dem for Freezer Burn or Weed Killer to scale up

Post to a private server or Imgur unfortunately

[turbid crescent]

I wanna try doing a mel axe build

Any reccomendations?

[edgy nacelle]

you can upload them somewhere else and link it, but otherwise you're out of luck sadly
you can post images in #h2-victory-boasting but prob shouldn't be clogging that channel with random images

[uneven palm]

Aphro or Apollo or Hera attack, throw something like Zeus, Heph, Poseidon, Ares on special

Dashing Heave is the best hammer

[turbid crescent]

I'll try it

Kinda want a heavy hitting build

[signal coral]

Mel axe bonuses dont work on omegas so you really want to dash attack and do regular swings

(The big bonk is still bad)

[uneven palm]

Yeah tap special to cancel out of too-slow attacks. Dash-strike attack attack special is your bread and butter

[tepid rock]

this must be why i keep sucking with it

[turbid crescent]

Also, are twin embers even good with mels aspect?

It seems borderline terrible to me

[signal coral]

all torch aspects are good

[turbid crescent]

Idk might just be my skill issue

[edgy nacelle]

all the torch aspects are good tbh, they're just weird and play differently than other weapons.
Moros is basically "Mel but better," but Mel is still quite strong

[turbid crescent]

Seems I cant use anything other than twin blades

[signal coral]

mel aspect can do some builds that moros isnt as good at but in general those builds are just worse than the moros playstyle

[meager wadi]

What are the typically best magik gain boons

[frigid tartan]

Man poor cerberus, rivals 3 underworld was such a pushover, poor boy can't catch a break

[uneven palm]

Hera. Apollo’s rarely bad

[robust crypt]

Do you guys ever bother with sprinting over the cat? Mine is unupgraded barely near mid game I think?

[uneven palm]

O special, hold attack. You can dash or cast while holding attacks, so dodge and keep things off you

[edgy nacelle]

sometimes...? especially between waves when no enemies have spawned and there's nothing better to do, + if she's asleep near where I'm fighting anyway.
the damage isn't awful in region 1 before you have boons, and she doesn't do all that much else 🤷 but she's also by far my least used familiar

[uneven palm]

It’s decent damage. Kinda need to remember to wait a beat at the door to wake her up

Real good with Circe

[edgy nacelle]

yeah, with Circe also it's easier to remember because sprinting through her becomes a "move my second cast to the enemy" button, not just Toula damage

[junior trail]

Some options just have pros and cons over each other, there’s really no clear “best” that completely overshadows everything. It really depends on your build and what you're going for.

That said, Born Gain might be the most universal pick here, just make sure you don’t stack too many boons that include Prime.

[heady flame]

guys help how do i dodge prometheus's fire attack where i have to go from 1 edge lane to the other edge lane on frenzy 2

cuz im hard sprinting and still not making it

[edgy nacelle]

2 dashes and sprint in between should do it, and stay near the inner edge of the starting safe zone
dash out of it, sprint, dash into the next one on cooldown
you can also i-frame the fire attacks but that's riskier

[frigid tartan]

Guys, I completed the first night champion tasks but nothing happened, just new ones appeared. There's no dialogue or prize for the first set of surface 6 and underworld 8? I thought that would be the first statue

[uneven palm]

Did you talk to Skelly? He acknowledges it

[rain kelp]

I feel stupid asking this but how do I properly dodge Polyphemus' rock throw's waves? I can never understand the pattern of this thing

[uneven palm]

Look for him to “listen” for you. If you strike him, boulder’s coming for your position. Move away quickly and be ready to dash right back into the shockwaves

[frigid tartan]

He said nothing of the likes of it. Thing is, I completed it on the same run I "completed Mel's task" and rolled credits

So seems like all dialogue is regarding just that

[edgy nacelle]

ah, then the ending dialogue probably just took priority!

[uneven palm]

Stick as close to the middle as you can. You can make it on Frenzy 2 just sprinting but it’s tight. You can get into the passing waves as they go; only the leading edge is the hurtbox

[frigid tartan]

Now I have 2 new thresholds of surface 12 and underworld 16 but no mention of the accomplishment 🤣

Was it supposed to unlock first statue?

[uneven palm]

Oh yeah it’s lower priority than story stuff. Give it a night.

[junior trail]

have you tried walking out of the training ground and walk back again, sometimes new dialogue just pops up

[edgy nacelle]

you could prob even just do a quick chaos trial if you want to get it ASAP, idr if they refresh dialogue but they should I think

[frigid tartan]

Yes, it didn't refresh. Will probably go again and do a quick run or chaos trial

[heady flame]

oh ok

[uneven palm]

Just give it a night or two. Main story dialog is super high priority

[shy moat]

doing more runs is almost always the solution to "Why isn't X showing up?"

[shy moat]

start running as soon as the one before ends (Non-dash) then dash into the safe spot as soon as your dash will reach it, that way even if you're slightly behind you'll be in iframes

[dawn cape]

Does anyone else tend to go for hexes and hex upgrades a lot? I almost always see quite a bit of value out of them

[dire shell]

Does Shiva need upgrades, answer fast 😇

[dawn cape]

Only time I don't is when I'm going like a pure basic attack build or something

[shy moat]

most of the hexes get way better if upgraded and can be run changing

[dawn cape]

Yeah

Although lunar ray having armor on channel as a basic upgrade feels a bit strong given how armor is always guaranteed to tank at least 1 hit

[shy moat]

lunar ray is a hex that requires upgrades to actually be good, otherwise it's mediocre

[dawn cape]

And has a hitstun animation on break, so if you're smart you can always fire it until you get armor break and then dash out and then probably just charge it off of like 1 omega move

[heady flame]

hexes are broken 😭😭

[uneven palm]

Eh, not really. The higher ranks allow sillier giga-punches but you’re rarely gonna get all the stacks anyway in reality

[dawn cape]

I also find myself in the position of taking things that make my moves more expensive primarily for the increased cost to charge my hex faster

[shy moat]

I rarely got even a couple stacks, it's such a clunky mechanic 🙁

[dire shell]

Wasn’t fast enough! Thanks anyway haha

[heady flame]

nuke is a nuke laser is a laser when with the autofire thing and half of the other ones give u invuln

[shy moat]

nuke godsent is kind of amazing for a screen clear

[heady flame]

• phase shift is crazy too

[shy moat]

dark side is the most limited imo, and it still has some powerful tricks you can pull

[heady flame]

dark side might be dookie

[shy moat]

...if you get the heal upgraded early to preserve at fountains and then +6 uses you can end up with something like 16 heals at the end of a run >.>

[heady flame]

😭😭😭 no dps on that thing

heal and dark side are the ones i skip most

[shy moat]

yeah you need to have some flat damage on-hits for attack/special and upgrade it to transfer them, or be running a cast build (and again upgrade it for actual good results)

[shy moat]

once you get "undo the last 2 seconds of damage" heal is just kind of a "play sloppy and dish damage" button, but unupgraded the heal is pure crap

and useless at high heat I'm sure

[heady flame]

ig but why do that when i can nuke chronos off the face of the map

[shy moat]

sometimes your only options are heal, dark side, or sheep and you want the boss support

though godsent sheep isn't the worst damage, especially if you can upgrade it for 400 more damage to guardians (Though that's still not a lot)...

[robust crypt]

Just me or is Medea curses pretty bad in comparison to anything else u can p much grab?

[shy moat]

she's the first area meeting, so ... they're not worse than Arachne

[robust crypt]

Yeah I'm p new to the game about to do typhon for the 4x items req etc. Just been regretting taking her every run. Unsure if she's bad or unlucky

[shy moat]

huh; I still drop by when she's there.

The projectile slow is pretty great when it shows up, otherwise I just get gold or whatever if those aren't available

The armor reduction can be meaningful against minibosses

[indigo badger]

Question:

Are wound effects mutually exclusive from one each other?

As in, if you have multiple sources of wound, only one of them can give you the benefit of the extra damage at a time (until the effect expires)

[rugged moon]

Yes

[viral yew]

Only one stack of wound can be applied yeah

[brave locust]

Is it always daedalus hammer when its available?

[shy moat]

usually, though I've had rare times where I needed a boon and skipped hammer for it

but hammers are just too big of game changers to easily skip

[robust crypt]

Question: Does increasing ur size also increase ur Special Omega's sizes? I feel like I will get hit more often w the bigger hitbox but if it makes my ability sizes bigger might be worth. Running Charion build

[sudden belfry]

chat im tired of not being able to look up zagreus fanart bc of spoilers. im beating the game tonight im DOING IT

||typhon|| ur ass is grass
i keep hearing the ending is....Something so i'm a little scared but here goes

[brave locust]

which of these is best with circe?

gigamoon burst
extending wallop
cross cataclysm

[olive tusk]

spoilers are 100% allowed here btw just be wary

[edgy nacelle]

I'd grab extending wallop probably?
circe is kinda hammer agnostic, no hammers interact with its gimmick
personally I don't usually use Ω moves other than Ω cast on circe, so I avoid Ω focused hammers like the other two

[dim flame]

if you take the athena keepsake in one of the first two areas of the surface, can you get a second athena boon in olympus or does the keepsake lock you to one

[edgy nacelle]

afaik if she shows up because of the keepsake that's it for the night

[brave locust]

thanks. it def seems that way.

[shy moat]

the ending is very Zagreus.

[dim flame]

cheers

[junior trail]

If you meant the Circe one, yeah, it increases the O.Special’s hitbox, but it doesn’t boost the O.Cast size. Just a heads-up if you were expecting both.

[cold tusk]

Can you continue to use the effect of ||Calling Card|| after swapping it with another keepsake?

[sudden belfry]

i dont know whether to be excited or even more scared

[edgy nacelle]

yes, but you stop being able to use them ||if you ever take a god summoning keepsake, i.e. a core boon giver or athena, since the fate's whim effect will end||

[sudden belfry]

also is eos any good? its just so cute and magical girl esque i wanna use it eventually

[edgy nacelle]

yeah! it's not the #1 best torch but imo it's a bit underrated, it can be really strong
great with night cycling, very safe since you deal passive damage at a range. put a % boon on attack, an on hit effect on special, get some decent magick regen and it's quite good

[sudden belfry]

ooh good to know!! whats night cycling?

[shy moat]

...I've taken it three times and used it zero >.>

Someday I'll remember to use it when I have it

[edgy nacelle]

it's using the effect of the Night arcana card, which gives crit rate to Ω moves when you use different ones in a sequence!
so Eos can go Ω special, Ω attack, Ω special again and then all your omega moves have built in crit chance

you can skip the first Ω special, but then your first daybreaker attack in each room won't have crit chance. up to you 🤷

[tacit crow]

Is eos the one with the cloud?

[edgy nacelle]

yesss, the one that summons the big slow moving orb that copies your specials

[tacit crow]

Oh yeah also the crit remains as long as the cloud does dmg

[edgy nacelle]

yup! so long as you did a different omega move before summoning the cloud

[sudden belfry]

oooh gotcha!!!

[shy moat]

I use that card all the time but didn't realize it was called night cycling; name makes sense though

[edgy nacelle]

idk if it's officially called that, I've just heard ppl say it a lot and it's catchy lol
in-game I think it's called an "Ω combo" but it's only relevant to night, so

night combo, night cycling, something like that

[brave locust]

Is hazard boom worth it for circe build?

It dies 20 dmg to me so I cant make use of furies arcana

[humble dagger]

to unlock morrigan do I have to equip the blades before meeting Artemis?

[weak meteor]

I don't like it on a Circe build.

It's all right on a Hestia cast build or long distance Charon build.

[opaque holly]

Do the developers ever comment on balance changes and feedback?

Eg providing rationale for changes

[tall notch]

It's the safest torch, I like it

[rare brook]

No, just make sure that you have upgraded aspect to lvl 5 OTHER than basic one. So either Artemis or Pan

[civic wing]

What's good with the Shiva aspect?

[viral yew]

Apollo special, pos/hestia/aphro attack

[civic wing]

Thanks

Do you recommend I take photon in first?

Going for a surface run in case it matters

[viral yew]

Photon?

[civic wing]

Apollo's keepsake

[viral yew]

Oh yeah do that

Go for special and lucid gain

[civic wing]

Okay thanks

[civic wing]

I assume I just drop casts in my bouncing bubble areas then?

[viral yew]

Yeah it's a good strat

[civic wing]

Okay thanks, which cast boons do you suggest?

[rare brook]

How people in videos make so that sometimes in the first room hammer is spawned instead of boon?

[viral yew]

Hestia or pos is good, as they're both good with the weapon

[tall notch]

When you don't have a god keepsake on it can spawn there sometimes, it's rng

[civic wing]

To my knowledge, it just randomly happens sometimes

[rose turtle]

The Athena item was not just active when i have no more revives? i have my cat and one normal revive and she come

[civic wing]

Okay thanks

[viral yew]

Were you in olympus?

[rose turtle]

yeah

[viral yew]

She naturally spawns there

[rose turtle]

but the item have the description 'will come when u have no more revives'

or something similar, sorry my english

so if im not in olympus she will not come (with her item) if i have lifes?

[civic wing]

oops

[viral yew]

Yes

[viral yew]

Only when you have it equipped in another region

[civic wing]

Damn I did not know apollo special made it that big

[rose turtle]

oh, The description wasn’t clear about that
thanks

[viral yew]

Yeah it gets real big

[tall notch]

Wait Shiva lady, do you just use the ospec and then do your regular attack or do you also collect stacks and do big oattacks?

[viral yew]

Depends, for normal mobs and rooms, i normally chuck out ospecial and go to town with regular attack, most normal mobs arent worth charging the oattack for as it's faster to just attack, for bosses i'll throw an ospecial, get some charges, and use oattacks when I can

[rose turtle]

what item do u use vs Tifon? im using the tooth but i feel like is so simple

[viral yew]

I use knucklebones

[rose turtle]

ah, never think about item lol

[tall notch]

You should try the white antler it's cool

[slate trench]

Cant stand when unrivaled chronos 2nd phase starts he does the 3 wave instakill and his safespot appears in the same exact spot twice. Its not immediately obvious until you run off and get stuck in a bubble trying to find where it moved to. Entire run where i barely even got hit wiped out because of an annoying "gotcha" that happens so infrequently you forget its possible until it happens again. Literally no reason to have it spawn in the same spot so you just stand still for even longer

[viral yew]

Peak advice

[viral yew]

Skill issue

[rose turtle]

uh, 30 hp see like a suicide for me

i eat all skillshots

[viral yew]

Do it, it'll be funny

[slate trench]

No skill involved, just an annoying mechanic

[rose turtle]

me playing now with 315 hp

and still hp problems

[viral yew]

The surface do be like that

[junior trail]

you got punished by muscle memory

[keen warren]

anyone have a max fear guide?

[tulip pier]

which keepsakes do you take in region 2/3/4 on pom runs?

[edgy nacelle]

personally:

• ||timepiece|| region 2, ||calling card|| if some of my most important boons are still missing, or phial if my most important boon happens to be my only common one. fig leaf is an option as well
• often something like selene or icarus region 3, ||timepiece|| if I didn't take it in 2, athena if I'm fine with turning off ||the fate's whim buffs|| for the rest of the night (i.e. my build is in good shape) and want her boons, silver wheel if I'm really worried about priming out, or something from the region 4 section if I don't need anything else
• last region is either offensive (white antler, lion fang, blackened fleece) or defensive (knuckle bones, luckier tooth, engraved pin, ghost onion) depending on my needs. athena, icarus, and silver wheel can be taken here sometimes, too

note on taking athena (or another god tbh if you want to): you won't lose anything retroactively, ||you'll just not be able to use timepiece/calling card usages anymore and new boons won't get +4 levels. you'll keep all your existing levels and your random hades boon||

note on ||timepiece||: ||timepiece is the closest you can get to a reroll! if you're seeing a god for the first time in region 2 and turn the boon to gold before accepting it, that god will NOT enter your god pool, which gives you some control over your run again. that + the crazy amount of gold it gives you is very nice, which is why it's my default for region 2, when it's early enough to benefit from both||

[keen warren]

any good max damage build for persephone and pom

[edgy nacelle]

both are great with heph blast builds 🤷 with hestia and apollo duos then another duo of your choice, and clang related boons from
heph

[keen warren]

how do i get them though

its a roguelike not like i can choose

[viral yew]

With god keepsakes?

[edgy nacelle]

you can reroll the first room if you’re doing a Jpom run, if you have that incantation

[keen warren]

i mean i dont have rerolls with jpom becasue fates whim

[edgy nacelle]

and the avoid rooms + use timepiece to get gods out of your pool

[viral yew]

then don't take pom if u want a build

[keen warren]

i like pom its generally goated

but some runs i just get bad gods for surface

[edgy nacelle]

but tbh yeah, if you want a max damage build to aim for then wait to ask that until you know like 2-3 parts of your god pool

[viral yew]

No god is a bad god with pom

[keen warren]

what can i take generally

like what should be my attack spesh and cast

i like hestia for special and demeter for attack but it seems low damage and taking out rooms takes forever on higher fear

[viral yew]

What vows/fear are u running

[strong mesa]

am i crazy or is typhons head smash attack way easier to i frame on frenzy

[viral yew]

It's way easier i agree

[edgy nacelle]

bah ok sleeping pill kicking in p hard, but tldr my advice is just “be mindful of what charges your special, since demeter attack won’t do that” and “focus more on building around the gods you get rather than the weapon”

[keen warren]

most vows except time and arcana

[edgy nacelle]

knowing which part of each god’s kit can charge mom skull special is nice to do, + just… “what duos or other combos would be good, now that this fate’s whim run handed me a god or two”

[viral yew]

Respond to my dm before u pass out pls

[keen warren]

and like the first boon being an. onion

[steep galleon]

Zeus Ares duo + light smite from Apollo

[viral yew]

Ok but what fear

[keen warren]

52? or smthn

[viral yew]

You should absolutely be running time

[keen warren]

i barely made polyphemus with 32 seconds when i tried

[junior trail]

i mean heinous works with every weap lol

[strong mesa]

if ur on 5 minute timer just dont do all the small rooms

[mellow owl]

Is Wolf Howl good? 200 damage seems really lackluster, especially for 50 magick

[strong mesa]

and try to get an attack boon early

[keen warren]

i barely get small rooms i just suck at being fast

[steep galleon]

Works extra for Persephone cause its gimmick is tied to Olympian damage

[keen warren]

and this was 7 minutes

i generally take like 30~ minutes for a run

[mellow owl]

Also Dark Side
It’s so expensive, but I feel like I have way worse DPS with it than without it

[junior trail]

you gain iframes while using the hex, its rly good as emergency escape button even with no upgrade, very cheap and safe

[keen warren]

the laser beam one is nice when you fully upgrade it

[steep galleon]

Very

[keen warren]

and the moon blast is goated, i got good at predicting where fast enemies would end up like chronos and the rest

why do i still struggle with hecate though on rivals, even if the rest are pretty ok

i still find it hard to find the real hecate and dodge the sheep spell

[steep galleon]

Sheep spell is pretty difficult to dodge on frenzy 2

[strong mesa]

Keeping vow of pain and vow of scars as low as practically possible and preferably getting snow queen or trusty shield helps going fast

[steep galleon]

I can do it if I have speed boosts but otherwise I fail usually

[strong mesa]

lets you not have to play as safe

[keen warren]

does anyone know what condition is met to get artmeis and icarus to help you out

like why do they come

[strong mesa]

i hate getting icarus on high fear ngl, he just makes the encounter way harder 😭

[steep galleon]

Icarus sucks ass yeah.

[keen warren]

usually hes the goat

[junior trail]

also the same reason for dark side, you're impervious for the entire duration, so it works as escape button as well

as for dps, try aphro godsent with sunny disposition (aphro x apol duo), really good and safe dmg

resonance/splendor are also good upgrades if you can build around it

[keen warren]

i only like the boon where he upgrades. a random boon by 2 levels

or the hammer upgrade

[strong mesa]

I guess its cuz hordes is a percentage, and he already spawns so many enemies it just gets insane

[keen warren]

he spawns the enemies?

i mean at that point it just becomes visual clutter when i try to fight them off

so not optimal

[keen warren]

you dont deal that much damage with dark side though so its kinda just a delay tactic

[strong mesa]

If ur not on a tight deadline i really like dark side

but on high fear ive actually been liking morph and moon water the most

moon water+poseidon is just broken, and morph is great for crowd control

[keen warren]

moon water kinda mid unless fully upgraded

i am kinda terrible at this game though

[viral yew]

Wolf howl also goes crazy

[strong mesa]

true

[steep galleon]

Wolf howl is my favorite currently

[keen warren]

is the godsent hex good for wolf howl

[strong mesa]

makes it deal some damage instead of just being a dodge

pretty nice

[junior trail]

It’s blast related so it works with stuff like grand caldera and rude/cryo/love handles-sunny duo

[keen warren]

i like the cast hammer thing

ptng pting pting

[mellow owl]

Using god keepsakes, can you “rarify” into a duo or legendary or is it just gonna be a better version of the same boon

[steep galleon]

You can only rarify normal boons, duos and legendaries have requirements you need to meet to have a chance of them showing up

[viral yew]

Better version of the same boon

[junior trail]

man i wish chrolex works with sner snar

[wise swallow]

for moros flames, is it better to have demeter/zeus for attack & special, or vice versa?

[humble galleon]

how good is aspect of nyx?

[viral yew]

Worse than Shiva but better than the other two

[viral yew]

Zeus special dem attack

[junior trail]

heaven flourish/arc flash is a good combo there

[wise swallow]

thank you as always

[humble galleon]

how do boons affect the omega dash?

[keen warren]

I BEAT PROM RIVALS WITH 43 HEAT WOOHOO WITH NO DEATH DEFIANCE LOST

[tall notch]

best coat

[viral yew]

They don't

[keen warren]

With Persephone build this channel suggested unfortunately I couldn't get the duo because I didn't find apollo

[viral yew]

L opinion (no i don't care you've cleared 62f)

[keen warren]

Anyways I'm at the summit and idk what keepsake to take. My pom and calling card are spent

[tall notch]

@humble galleon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8EbzKUJ6bk here's some Nyx footage (coat got buffs since the recording of this video so it's even better rn)

[keen warren]

What should I get fellas

[tall notch]

knucklebones

Very useful vs Typhon and rooms are easy so you don't need a keepsake that works there

[viral yew]

@humble galleon don't listen to him

[keen warren]

Idk why but like why did I heal I don't have the Apollo self healing boon

[lean crypt]

holy moly ok anubis is fun actually

i have hestia attack+chain lightning from zeus

[keen warren]

Like why did I gain health when I attacked what boon was that

[wise swallow]

Does it take a while to receive the hidden aspect of a weapon even once youve achieved its requirements? cuz i have all the torches + 1 level 5

[tall notch]

@humble galleon don't listen to her

[viral yew]

There's a duo boon or charon well item

[patent locust]

What aspects are stong other than circes, i cant seem to find one as strong as this one, the only 7 clears i managed to get were with circes staff

[viral yew]

Mel aspect cant be maxxed

[keen warren]

I need a little Selene boost are you sure

[lean crypt]

or hades boon maybe

[wise swallow]

it isnt

[viral yew]

Than, moros, medea, mel staff, mel blades

[keen warren]

Nvm I should've just checked what I had it was an area boon that healed when I attacked with low health

[lean crypt]

i beat up zagreus by just staying away and letting him burn to death lol

[keen warren]

I didn't know that boon works because it never did

[viral yew]

Oh blood spree

[tall notch]

I'll be honest with you I never tried Selene keepsake on the Summit so I am not even sure if it will guarantee a path of stars for you

[junior trail]

elaborate on mel blades pls

[viral yew]

It will

[keen warren]

Yeah I can't even reroll

[viral yew]

It's the best of the non hidden aspect blades

[tall notch]

IMO Hel is also really good and it's not talked about enough

[lean crypt]

nooo artemis my beloved

[steep galleon]

One of the miniboss rooms can be Selene so yeah it should

[keen warren]

Knucklebone it is

[viral yew]

Real

[patent locust]

Medea 🤮🤮🤮 but ty for the others

[tall notch]

In such case @keen warren use your own discretion if you think you need that Selene, but as far as my recommendation goes I'd go knucklebones

[viral yew]

Medea is the best aspect in the game

[keen warren]

I got knuckle Selene might not come

[patent locust]

Yes i heard but i hate playing the skulls

[keen warren]

I kinda messed up my run with Icarus. Everytime I use cast I lose 20 health

How do I get rid of that

[viral yew]

Don't stand in the cast

[keen warren]

I dont

Its a ranged cast

[tall notch]

time for my hot take of the day: outside of anyfear speedruns context, Medea is wildly overrated. Damage isn't everything and that weapon is ridiculously unsafe

[junior trail]

why play hel if it doesnt offer possessed

[keen warren]

I don't stand in it I get dealt damage when it deals damage to enemies

[tall notch]

You don't need possessed if you don't need to collect skulls in the first place!

[viral yew]

I definitely agree, but from a record setting viewpoint, it's the best, otherwise there are more consistent options

[keen warren]

How do I get rid of the hammers apart from the random hammer replacing boon

[viral yew]

You can't

[keen warren]

Got the heinous affront boon. Should I take that or the sanguinary savor

[lean yoke]

note to self: apollo boons are GREAT at increasing the black coat's range and attakc size

[keen warren]

Both seem really good

[junior trail]

visceral impact works with heinous so more speed yay (and more magick if also using grisly)

[keen warren]

Got wispy wiles and 8 air elements am I invincible now

Aight Typhon time

Hopefully I can pull this off

[viral yew]

he was then shot 47 times

[keen warren]

Ok I did it

43 fear

[viral yew]

Yippie

Why 43 and not 45?

[keen warren]

Wdym

Yeah idk

[grave estuary]

With aspect of Hel, it still offers a hammer referencing Omega attack, does it actually do anything? I thought Hel doesn't have one

[lean crypt]

it does if you just keep attack held

it's not reaslly amazing tho

[viral yew]

It doesn't

[grave estuary]

Yeah, I thought as much. Thanks 🙂

[strong mesa]

hel has an omega attack

[lean crypt]

it starts charging after like 3 bursts

[strong mesa]

yeah

its prob never worth using but it def exists

[grave estuary]

Huh, that sounds not great

Though tbf I usually dash between bursts out of habit so I never got that far into its attack

[lean crypt]

omg level 14 hestia attack on anubis

[grave estuary]

Ooooh spicy

[lean crypt]

time to cook

[strong mesa]

also isnt the whole point of hel to throw out the omega special

which disables omega attack anyways

[vast turret]

you have to get either aphrodite duo or demeter duo

[strong mesa]

coming from playing the older early access patches into this hestia is so sick

Shes so strong

I miss burnt offering though

[vast turret]

She's okay. Requires some setup.

[strong mesa]

scorch is strong

[sudden mango]

does anyone have ideas for how to build ||aspect of nergal||?

[vast turret]

Get Apollo or Zues in attack. Then spam omega attack.

[strong mesa]

heph legendary 😎

[vast turret]

This. Pretty fun.

[sudden mango]

everytime i use ||nergal|| it feels soooo slow

but ill try these next time

[vast turret]

Yes. Because it is a big ass weapon./

To be fair. The omega attack charge time is faster than other axes.

[sudden mango]

tbh i just run melenoe aspect for big boy damage

[vast turret]

I barely use Mel's aspect.

Thanatos aspect or ||Nergal|| are basically Mel aspect but better.

[sudden mango]

the increased damage is funny

[vast turret]

Have you tried running Mel's aspect with Aphrodite on the attack?

Must have crazy amount of dmg.

[sudden mango]

i did that today

[rare brook]

So special Heph then with Zeus on attack 😄

[viral yew]

Mel axe gotta be my least favourite aspect

[sudden mango]

5 shot(basically) Chronos second form

[rare brook]

I can suspect there's a reason why it gives a lot of HP

[viral yew]

It's just so pointless

[vast turret]

My most favorite Mel aspect is the staff

[rare brook]

Yeah, it's universal

[vast turret]

Mel's staff aspect can conquer high fear runs with ease.

[rare brook]

And it's not broken like old Momus aspect 😛

[vast turret]

Least fave Mel aspect is the daggers.

Feels so bad on bosses.

Its like having 0 aspect bonus.

[sudden mango]

my fav dagger aspect is artemis

[vast turret]

I don't get Artemis enjoyers.

[sudden mango]

its the extra safety net

[vast turret]

Breaks the flow of combat for me

Like to intentionally always proc riposte 100% off cooldown.

[lean crypt]

it's for style points

[sudden mango]

just spam omega and dont dash for free crits

[vast turret]

Will give it a few more try and treat it just like Lovers arcana.

[steep galleon]

All bosses have a back except typhon though?

[rare brook]

Typhon can be somewhat backstabbed if I remember it right

[viral yew]

You just look in a different direction

[lean crypt]

and scylla

[sudden mango]

u wont be backshotting most of the bosses too much for the aspect to be worth tbh

[viral yew]

cerberus

[sudden mango]

maybe cerberus (i type too slow)

[steep galleon]

Why not?

[viral yew]

Worth it just for that tbh, especially on rivals

[steep galleon]

Daggers are good just for the moveset imo, the backstabs are a nice bonus. Pan is the worst one for me.

[sudden mango]

pan can result in big burn or damage numbers if u get the right hammers

[steep galleon]

Takes too much time to channel

[viral yew]

Pan used to be so much better so it's hard for me to use now unless I stack pos boons and get the legendary

[rare brook]

I seem to have problem to get pos legendary, it's easier to get pos - ares duo

[ionic lily]

I prefer mel aspect if I want to re-live old Pan for the poseidon special

[rare brook]

5% chance (or 10% [maybe 7.5%] with arcana) is too punishing

[viral yew]

Just bad luck maybe, I can get the duos/legendaries i want most of the time

[rare brook]

Of course I pick the requirements, it's just sometimes a bad rng happens

And often I get leg in 4th region instead of 2nd one for example

[rare brook]

Also this tip so far was really helpful for me: Every standard god has “core” boons — attack, special, cast, dash, or magick recovery. The game tries real hard to fill those slots: you are nearly guaranteed to be offered one if a slot is empty.

So if you’re fishing for tier-2 boons, duos, or legendaries you might want to fill those so you stop getting offered a dash boon you don’t care about. If you can do so without unlocking unwanted duos, perfect.

On the flip side, if you must have a core boon like Born Gain iMore info about Born Gain : fill the other core slots with whatever, then Hera will likely offer Born Gain next time you see her.

When it happened that I had sprint for example not filled then oh boy, RNG was brutal

[viral yew]

I am aware of how the boon system works yes

[ember frigate]

what weapon do you reccomend for max rivals surface run? i ussually end up dying to ||typhon||

[viral yew]

Supay

[steep galleon]

Any weapon you are good at/have fun playing

[past rover]

that last phase pisses me off (in a good way, but i keep wasting my death defiances before then so im trying to make sure i can melt everything before). still havent beaten him but good luck to you lol

[mellow owl]

Is the surface really that much harder or do I just suck lol
Like at this point I can very constistently make it to Chronos, and often even beat him, even using some Fear
On the surface I have only made it past Prometheus twice, and Typhon absolutely bodied me despite me having pretty good builds

[steep galleon]

Surface is harder for sure

[tall notch]

The latter half of the surface just feels like one big dps check

[steep galleon]

Typhon may seem intimidating cause of the lack of hp bar and what not but I'd say Prometheus is the hardest boss (no fear)

[thin osprey]

Need help with aspect of nyx black coat hahaha idk what boon combination works best

[past rover]

yeah prometheus is the one im always scared of in runs where i dont feel 100% confident in my build

[tall notch]

Hestia special, Zeus attack, Hera sprint, your favourite cast

[thin osprey]

Onega attack or just spam attack and special?

Ill tweak my arcana for it too

[tall notch]

The only omega you wanna use on Nyx is the sprint

[steep galleon]

Omega attack is ok for blocks, I like the omega special quite a bit to focus them on one target, good for bosses, but in general on nyx you're using basic attack and specials most of the time

[tall notch]

In fact, on Nyx I just use autofire and don't even consider omega attack or special

[thin osprey]

Which arcana is a must have? Also strength or death defiance and should i bring along hecuba or just frinos better?

[steep galleon]

Don't sleep on o special for sure. I only had a special boon for most of this run so most of the dmg output came from it on this run https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383166531730673777/1426552298003369994/image-34.png?ex=68eba3db&is=68ea525b&hm=25e7421b10db742f1d598551253152e24f94648641b322f07305c3a8089a895a&

[tall notch]

I consider sorceress a must, aside from that Nyx is a fairly flexible aspect

[tall notch]

To me it just feels awful to use, the main appeal of coat to me is the mobility while using regular special and ospecial takes that away to make you stand still (and the aiming is weird)

[thin osprey]

Launcher frame or exhaust riser?

Zeus attack?

[steep galleon]

Interesting, for me the o special is appealing particularly for its very short channel time so I don't feel I lose out on mobility much when I use it in the long run, the aiming thing though may be a controller vs kbm issue, I haven't had a problem with it

[tall notch]

Which control scheme are you using? I'm on controller and autoaim doesn't feel the most reliable for that move

[steep galleon]

I use KBM, default controls basically except I remapped cast to a mouse button

[patent locust]

Does anyone have a build for moros aspect, i havent done the ending yet cause im struggling with late surface (prometheus etc..)

[tall notch]

Hera attack Zeus special

[patent locust]

Ok ty

Imma try

[craggy valve]

Are there particular HP markers for Typhon? Like, 1/3 down, he retreats, 2/3 down, he retreats again? Like that?

[steep galleon]

Pretty much yeah, when he spawns eggs it's the end of a phase

Someone else here probably knows the exact numbers

[ember frigate]

which hammer is better for anubis? mirror ankh or soulfield ankh (hestia attack)

[glass bone]

So Mirror Ankh would give you a third source of scorch damage, but soulfield would make the Attack much larger. I think if you have a gain to support it, Mirror Ankh is probably better

[ember frigate]

so if im trying to fight rival chronos would it make it easier to use soulfield since he moves alot or no?

[glass bone]

Well Rival Chronos does move around quite a bit, but he also stays stationary for a good 2-5 seconds after a typical attack (ignoring Starting Instakill in P2, and Lasers in P3 because he does something else immediately when close to you).

So I guess the better bit is, do you feel confident you can hit that third source onto enemies?

[ember frigate]

ima try mirror ankh, thanks

[glass bone]

Against something like Rival Cerberus, or Rival Typhon, it’s easy. But it can be more challenging against Chronos as you said

[ember frigate]

oh i understand what it does now

[lean yoke]

anyone else have nicknames for builds

In Hades I, I called Ares' cast 'the blender', Aspect of Hera with Dionysus I called 'the bath bomb', I nicknamed the bow's special 'the shotgun' cause of how it's most effective up close, and the Flurry Slash sword upgrade 'the chainsaw' cause you can just hold Attack and saw away at the enemy's health.

[flint widget]

this ain't really a build more so an aspect but i call medea the suicide bomber weapon cuz you load your bomb and you get close to enemies and BOOM

persephone is just called car and hel is a smg

performing the morrigans blood triad is what i like to call the sacrifice cuz ur basically performing a ritual at ur enemy

[tough vapor]

circe staff with raki and zues cast absolutely is an insane melter, when I get both circles on an enemy, they just go bye bye, even polyphemus unrivaled each time I got both circles on him he just MELTED

[craggy valve]

Does Malice in Kind work more than once on an enemy?

eagerly hoping it does

[trim shoal]

Does the hammer from Experimental Hammer last even if you switch Keepsakes?

[steep galleon]

Yes

[trim shoal]

Ok ty

[patent locust]

What boons do i take for thanatos axe ?

[ionic widget]

help im use lightning king item and its not giving me at least epic for attack even tho i keep undoing night for like 5 times

[vital ledge]

could it be that selene shows up way more often, if you have her arcana activated?
did a few (like 7 or so) runs with the slowdown arcana for fun and she appeared a lot more than usual.
small sample size I know, so I wanted to know if someone else noticed the same thing.

she even mentions that you have it activated in one of the conversations.
is the game aware that if we activate it, we actually want her? MMH

[uncut sigil]

T_T yeah I accidently unknowingly went into the Zag fight without realising what it was and had to fight him with basically no boons

I spent the last 8 minutes kiting him and shooting from afar only to mess up at the last moment

[tall notch]

8 minutes... reminds me of the one time I spent 7+ minutes fighting Chronos because my build was dealing 0 damage

[uncut sigil]

honestly I think I got greedy
thankfully I DIDN'T do the thing where I thought I won and then Death Defiance sucker punched me
of course he has it

[vital ledge]

we are lucky that he runs stubborn defiance 👀

[tall notch]

Or maybe he just didn't level up his mirror

[paper ginkgo]

After him using it first time I was ready for another two to be honest

[trim shoal]

Hera is pretty good

[weary girder]

did u tried a run with wave strike and +3 hits daedalus? imo best build so far for sub 40 fear runs

unfortunately its way too specific of a build, need a lot of resets

[barren badger]

judgement definitely is the best arcana card

if you can manage to get past the first boss at least

Medea is real final boss material though

[brave locust]

Is hell splitter good or ass?

Thats a slow ass chop

[patent locust]

For the attack ?

[flint widget]

that with thanny axe is funny as hell

[safe magnet]

does anybody know if local climate (omega cast buff) affects smolder ring?

[dull marsh]

do yall feel like the combat in h2 is in favor of pc more than controller? I feel like i find myself in a lot of more aiming-from-distance situations than h1. it could be up to preference but i need to know ppl opinions so i know im not hallucinating

[trim shoal]

Yes, and pair with O-attack

[patent locust]

I can take any other cast for origination ?

[trim shoal]

Yes, would reccomend demeter for utility, but any cast with a status works

[patent locust]

Okk ty

[trim shoal]

no one told me they superbuffed Eos

[cosmic steppe]

fine line + exceptional talent + ocean swell on anubis

don't let propaganda get to you, 300 magick is NOT enough for born gain

typhon with no grit and no rivals i primed myself right at the zeus phase

[shy moat]

I'm still doing fine with controller, but I do feel like there's more situations where my shot doesn't go at the target I expected or I'm stuck wasting time aiming than I encountered in 1

So probably if you want to do high fear you'll want to figure out m+kb but for anything "normal" (eg, up through 32 fear?) controller will serve fine

[stuck token]

Did all the aspects get a bit of a rework since early access? I'm almost done with the 'win with every aspect' thing and I've eventually enjoyed all the aspects I wrote off 6-12 months ago

[tough vapor]

apollo attack and aphro attack are both insane for than axe, and both even have boons that reward not taking hits and being at full HP with even more dmg

[shy moat]

or you didn't have enough damage boosts for it

...but there is a reason I personally dislike born gain

[tough vapor]

I kinda love born gain, cause I love big bars so I shoot for big magick, and then if I can find even half a second to stand still ((pretty easy imho, and both final bosses even have points that basically require it)) you just 100% fill up your mana

[shy moat]

born gain is the one that primes when you run dry for a full refill (I have to look up names constantly...)

[tough vapor]

oh, yeah no, hate t hat one lmao

if im running something that NEEDS mana, then I dont wanna prime my mana and go bone dry on a long fight

[shy moat]

it only works with a good sized magick pool and something that dumps damage if you can keep the magick pouring in.

Otherwise you run dry.

if forced to choose I'd still take it before Hestia's in general >.>

[lean crypt]

Hestia gain is ridiculous with Anubis hehe

[shy moat]

that's fair, a couple spammy attack weapons might make it good.

But in general, eugh.

also I have issues with Aphro's regen in that as long as you're actively using magick it never kicks in. At least it still applies weakness

[stuck token]

I just don't spend that much mana with Anubis, feels like anything but flood gain works on it

[tough vapor]

hestia gain is super specific yeah, torches? goated. axe? trash

[shy moat]

ah, that makes sense; torches are my second least favorite

[stuck token]

how does highly flammable work? Is the 'first time' once per enemy, or on foes with 0 scorch?

It's the 'inflict +scorch damage on a foe for the first time' one

[shy moat]

I think just once per enemy period, which still makes it good for trash clear

but not great

...I should test

The descriptions in this game need a polish pass

[stuck token]

Ah. Makes sense, it's not good for what I usually try to do with hestia then

[tough vapor]

it goes great on torches, cause even with a common unupgraded gain, the 3 hits or however many it is before your attack allways pay back and more for the

[shy moat]

not with fine line and other added costs, but yeah I get your point >.>

[tough vapor]

oh yeah no, when you start upping the cost youll need a higher rarity

man, quick buck and buried treasure are just SO good together, even at just common rarity, its a like, total 80% booost, and higher rarities it just goes insane

[shy moat]

tbh if I can grab tidal ring at some point I'm more than happy to burn two poseidon picks on buried treasure + sea star

Bonus health, magick and coins from sea star and then the coins get multiplied by buried treasure?

C'mhere Charon I'm clearing you out every time.

[vague zinc]

does the jeweled pom effect remain even after switching keepsakes? As long as I don't pick a keepsake of an olympian affecting boons

[daring nexus]

yes

[vague zinc]

thanks

[lean crypt]

what room number is the oceanus boss?

[chilly swift]

Wow, don't sleep on Ares' cast guys, with the Cutting Edge duo boon his casts were my 2nd highest source of damage with 71k damage (surface, 24 fear). And that's with Aspect of Nergal, which already does crazy damage with its entire moveset so that's saying a lot

[shy moat]

yeah Ares' cast is good

[shy moat]

I think each area is 10-12 rooms, there's some variance possible

[chilly swift]

I believe it's typically location 23, so location 22 should be the final shop room

[shy moat]

hmmm now that I say this though, the surface may be more rigid ><

[rare brook]

What was cutting edge doing?

[shy moat]

it makes the falling blades hit twice and in a wider area

Ares' cast makes blades fall over anything in it

[pliant knot]

Anyone have a good cheese for 32 surface? I've been at it for about two days now and it has just utterly annihilated every single piece of goodwill I've had for this company.

[vast turret]

Your vow setup?

[pliant knot]

I'm honestly flexible, I just want 32 Fear, I don't care how corny I have to get with it. Prefer one that doesn't need casts though. I've been bouncing around a few different things and nothing's been working.

[vast turret]

Do you have the rivals fight?

Try Circe staff with Zues or Hestia cast.

Bring Tula or Frinos as the pet.

If you don't like hitting the cast button. Then try aspect of Mel staff

Get Zues on either the attack or special.

The combo is dash strike into special, repeat.

[pliant knot]

How do you post that fast in stacatto in this server? >>

[shy moat]

when nobody's talking, just keep typing

[pliant knot]

I just don't get why you wouldn't just put it all in one spot.

[rugged moon]

Adhd

XD

I type train of thought so often will also do the staccato typing

[pliant knot]

No, I have it too. But like, the server has like a slow mode, it's easier to do in paragraph. Staccato always gives me such a headache, I hate it when people spam.

Alright different thought...anyone know a good cheese for blood triad or hidden skull aspect?

Sorry to be weird. I have this thing where I bonk myself rather than break controllers or stuff so like. I am dizzy after the last two hoursm

[rugged moon]

Define cheese

[pliant knot]

"I want to do this easy because now at this point I am so sick of this stupid game that I do not even care about doing it with any hint of skill, I am so tired. I am so sick of this. I am so sick of this game but due to ADHD and hyperfixation I have to get a stupid gaudy statue from a skeleton and now being forced to do it is making me despise this game after having a decent 100 hours."

[rugged moon]

For hel i like just going freezer burn. Hestia attack, Dem Special

Ospecial and just machine gun

For Morrigan i dont have a great suggestion because knives just are a harder weapom. I like Hera Attack and Heph Special

[pliant knot]

For that build what curses do you go with or what's your arcana for the Hel one I mean?

[keen warren]

how do you guys even do a 5 minute speedrun, each region takes me 5 minutes

i normally do a 16

[split igloo]

games not that difficult brah

just delete each region with medea

16 is solid though

just gotta keep working at it

[rose turtle]

there is a max dodge %?

[golden relic]

running supay with hestia special, zeus attack, poseidon cast, got offered scalding vapor and burning degree at the same time, which is stronger?

[keen warren]

why medea

[vast turret]

Hidden dagger aspect is pretty flexible. You can almost slot any god in its attack or special. My rule for that aspect is to never slot Poseidon or Hestia in attack or special. It does not lack any damage whatsoever.

[keen warren]

why not persphone

[split igloo]

persephone always for knives attack

it gets so silly so quick

[vast turret]

If damage is not your problem. Then maybe it is your Vow setup. That is why I was asking earlier. What is your vow setup. If you are just going for 32 fear, do not slot in Frenzy 2.

[pliant knot]

Current was Pain 3, Horde 2, Scars 2, Time 3, grit 2, Menace 2, Debt 2, Hubris 2, Shadow, Return 1, Frenzy 1, Forfeit, Rivals 1.

Fangs kept rolling me because of just bad luck with the armor, Eris and above tend to give me trouble as far as rivals go

[steep galleon]

The sooner you get used to frenzy 2 the better imo

[steep galleon]

Bro please don't use pain or grit until very high fear levels...

[vast turret]

Yes. But if the person just wants to get over it and get the statues. There is no point in getting Frenzy 2.

[pliant knot]

32 isn't "very high"?

[steep galleon]

Pain and grit are like the very last I would use

[austere trail]

32 is considered low by most here, yeah

[brazen wasp]

how do u peeps build supay

[pliant knot]

I mean if rivals surface wasn't completely broken and stupid I'd be fine.

[steep galleon]

Not high enough to warrant using them

You're just making it hard on yourself for no reason

Pain is indeed painful

[tacit crow]

Guys quickly gimme a circe build and tell me what are the usual casts y'all go for since I'll be using two

[shy moat]

Eris and Prom rivals are both fairly easy all things considered, just Poly is really ugh

[shy moat]

you should take Denial, it doesn't wreck builds as much as you might expect so is a pretty painless 2 points

[steep galleon]

My 32 setup though I wouldn't recommend to everybody https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383166531730673777/1425833039392542790/image.png?ex=68eba8ff&is=68ea577f&hm=5ed344f2bea9d283dd6c7a72a733869734ff17ef2ee0fe9be733cfe9c958857a&

For mana heavy weapons I take 1 from hubris and put it into hordes

Though I would recommend cranking up rivals to at least 2, for 32 fear

[pliant knot]

Does frenzy not impact attack speed?

[steep galleon]

Impacts everything

[pliant knot]

Okay how do you get past Eris's stupid "Hey they don't know how to balance properly, I am on screen less than 1 second for my last 10% HAHAHHA" on rivals 2?

[vast turret]

You stay calm cool and collected. Wait for her to drop and unleash hell.

[floral spear]

if you are working with somethign you have to charge start counting a little bit how long her cycles are so you can be fully charged up for when she lands

[spiral wadi]

u basically need to have big burst damage during that time

[peak urchin]

trying to run circe, what cast should I go for

[spiral wadi]

storm ring is generally busted on circe

[peak urchin]

is there a usecase for most hepheastus boons? i feel like hes the weakest god

[vast turret]

Always take rivals 4. Practice rivals mode of every boss in low fear. All of the rivals fight are doable with a "few" practice.

Rivals 4
Denial
Shadow
Fangs 2
Menace 2
Time 2
Hubris 2
Frenzy 1

If you are going for a magick hungry build. Substitute Hubris 2 with Scars 1 & Wards 1

[shy moat]

you can also just randomly unleash lingering attacks (cast, omegas, whatever) until she drops down into one

[vast turret]

Heph is pretty bonkers if you have high rarity attack or special. Works with any weapon.

[shy moat]

Heph is unfortunately one of those "Meh base but oh zeus if boosted" cases

[spiral wadi]

blasts are cracked, his anvil ring is pretty good but it's really good on circe

u just need to do a lot of pom investment onto blasts (or luck into high rarity) and it'll start cooking

[peak urchin]

alrighty ill give it a go

[spiral wadi]

it's also just really good as burst support without having to pom so much

[vast turret]

You can run Heph on any weapon. And has pretty fun duo boons from Poseidon, Apollo and Demeter.

[peak urchin]

which god would say has the weakest boons overall

[spiral wadi]

so u can have like primary dps like blitz or scorch, while having blast as a secondary thing, esp with the glow effect

ares

[peak urchin]

that makes sense

[rugged moon]

Ares is weakest overall, but strong with some duos

[vast turret]

Ares. I avoid that guy on almost every run.. haha

[steep galleon]

Pom meta also makes heph much more viable than usual

[spiral wadi]

it's not like ares is bad but he's just annoying to setup

[rugged moon]

Although i do like ares on some builds, he just needs more setup then basicly everyone

[shy moat]

Ares would be helped if his plasma didn't baseline suck without his legendary

[spiral wadi]

truu

[rugged moon]

Ares on Shiva Coat was fun

Get like 500% attack and then hit for a +30 power hit

[vast turret]

His plasma mechanic is tedious. Just get Grievous Blow and Mutual Destruction + attack/special.

[rugged moon]

I do wish ares gain included a like “increased pickup radius”

[pallid light]

Hey guys I just had a dominating run with Trick Knives Pan on 32 Fear. What are the other equivalents to Trick Knives for other weapons that lets you rofl-stomp runs?

[shy moat]

I think the devs should have to play the ares+shiva chaos scenario until they too realize that

[vast turret]

Dual Moonshot

[raven ivy]

aspect of charon + geyser spout

[pallid light]

ahh yes, I've had experience with this one and I agree it's super strong

[raven ivy]

if you want a really silly maximalist run you can go aspect of charon and try to get both the doubling omega special hammer and the doubling omegas apollo legendary, then spam your cast so that each omega special copy gets a cast to cleave through

[vast turret]

The double omega special from axe is funny on Charon. You can literally do 2 omega cast after casting omega special.

[rose turtle]

someone know what can i do for arachne? i have full athenea und arachne afinity
wiki have no information

[pallid light]

well, the thing that makes Trick Knives good I realized was how quick the attack was and how much time I spent dodging while dishing out high dmg

[vast turret]

It melts mini-boss and bosses.

[rose turtle]

i ask athenea nicely but she said no

[shy moat]

just keep asking

[rose turtle]

must be in the olympus?

[shy moat]

double omega special + omega special reaches farther and hits harder. Boom.

[shy moat]

the hammer only detonates the regular cast, not the omega; the omega cast flares up but it's fake

[peak urchin]

what are some other really good boons to go for with aspect of circe? i already have zues cast boon

[austere trail]

apollo's cast boons are pretty good (prominence flare and super nova)

[peak urchin]

okay sweet

[raven ivy]

i didn't mention omega casting

[austere trail]

zeus and apollo duo boon (forgor the name) is also very good

[peak urchin]

Oh sweet okay ill do that then

[raven ivy]

i need to do a run with the eternity card so i can channel it long enough to get the extra effect

[shy moat]

ah, I misread

also for "melt everything" combos Momus (staff repeats omegas) + hammer for attacks hit twice but cost 5 magick + any other boosts you want to throw on top of that murders things.

Just go spam your special/cast omegas while the attack omega repeats for free on top of it (Or recast attack omega right after a free one to keep hammering it home)

I'm pretty sure Momus is underrated because it was brokenly good pre v1.0 and people are just comparing it against that instead of against existing weapons

[brazen wasp]

how do u peeps build supay

[zealous sundial]

Strong rush + curse attack and special

[brazen wasp]

whats a good rush

[zealous sundial]

Poseidon and Aphrodite have really good rush boons for Supay

[steep galleon]

Poseidon or zeus

[stable herald]

I like Zeus Rush for just holding down sprint, plus Romantic Spark is terrific on Supay

[zealous sundial]

Hera’s is also good but you only get to deal damage with it once until hitch goes away

If you do something like scorch special though it can work well

[olive tusk]

apollo and hermes

but not for supay though

[junior dome]

for axe (aspect of melinoe) I find myself just alternating attack-special-attack-special to avoid using hte attack combo? does that make sense? it just feels smoother

[olive tusk]

yeah i do that too

[stable herald]

Apollo is the best rush generally but gets nothinh from Supay since it deals no damage

[olive tusk]

yeah didnt read the full message

[steep galleon]

Pretty much the best way to play it

[rose turtle]

poseidon dmg is awesome, never take him bcs think he was very weak like hades 1 but hell, he is strong

[empty moat]

chat for thanatos aspect the best gods are appolo/aphrodite, demeter, poseidon and hera right ?

[rugged moon]

Especially with pom meta I love posedian. Sea star starting at 50ish percent is great for just ending runs on absurd resources

[shy moat]

yeeeeep

Though attack -> omega attack can be quite good at times too. You can dash after charging a bit to get an evade in then hit with the omega

Not boosted by the aspect, though 🙁

[vast turret]

Yes. But remove poseidon there.

[steep galleon]

It's pretty versatile you can even run zeus attack

Hestia probably works too

[brazen wasp]

would u say its better to go zeus attack aphro rush or vice versa on supay

[plain shard]

Hey guys, whats the best god for aspect of eos ygnium? Chronos phase 3 is kicking my ass rn

Ive found apollo and demeter to be hte best but havent tried anyone else

[surreal stratus]

how do i post an image?

[vital ledge]

pretty close to what I use. less debt, scars and denial for fangs 2 and return 2.
if you get hit too much, just buy stuff to heal!
if you can't pick up all the orbs, who cares, 7 minute timer. a single respawned enemy will not damage you and only cost time.

[shy moat]

denial seems so free to me

like; 1 run in 10 it might screw me but far more often it helps get the most effective boons I want

[raven ivy]

Aphrodite?

[brazen wasp]

so im a bit confused, running doesnt pop aphro on supay only dashing does what am i misunderstanding

[raven ivy]

you can't, you have to paste a link to an image and discord embeds it from there

you can right click copy link on any existing discord image to do this

[brazen wasp]

im holding the button and it aint doing it

[raven ivy]

I like to use Hera rush on supay, it usually takes out smaller enemies in 1 hit

[brazen wasp]

what is rushing?

[vital ledge]

keeping track of it is annoying. only reason I don't use it for 32. and I don't like picking the exact same boons every single run. more boons = easier game even if it's one that you don't really need.
plays well together with debt 2 though as you can't buy boons anyway.
and taking extra rooms in tartarus is fun to "kill chronos more" hah. if the chambers were too hard, I wouldn't do those anyway

[frigid tartan]

Well I just first tried rivals 3 surface fight, what a good one

[brazen wasp]

like isnt rushing the same as sprinting and if so why isnt the aphro rush constantly popping

[frigid tartan]

Was a mess to have a second target when dodging Prometheus fire from above

[shy moat]

yeah they could definitely make it easier to track 😐

[sacred storm]

Passion Rush only triggers twice per button press: once when you first dash, and once either at the end of the dash or, if you hold the button to sprint instead, when you let go of sprint. I'm not sure where you got the idea that it'll trigger repeatedly as you sprint.

If you want a sprint boon that does consistent damage as you run around your options are Zeus, Hestia, and possibly Hera.

[brazen wasp]

doesnt zeus dash trigger continously

it doesnt make sense for only those to be the exception thats where i got my impression