h2-builds-and-combat

[cosmic steppe]

But as is, no reason to take it bc you're either not grabbing air quality so your rush boon is weaker than it would've been on another aspect with aq or you do and it's exactly the same, that's just silly

I guess I could make it worth it with ||mom pom|| artificer and extended family+rallying cry+tall order though...

It's mostly a utility button in this aspect, slap a lasting curse on there for orig if your cast+rush don't ensure it or just a freeze if you're on high fear and in need of some safety imo

[zealous zodiac]

Hi! I do the surface or underworld first ?

[bronze flax]

Poseidon, Hera, and if I can put Air Quality online, Demeter

[civic salmon]

How do you give gifts to echo? it keeps saying now seems not the time

[odd bolt]

after getting her reward

took me too long to notice that too 🥲

[civic salmon]

wdym her reward?

like her keepsake?

[cosmic steppe]

Her offering

[keen moon]

Does anyone know the spawn rates of the fountains in Erebus? I somehow got Gale and Hecuba without getting the raven who appears in the fountain rooms of Erebus. So now I’m trying to get a fountain to spawn and it’s not

[cosmic steppe]

Prayge

[velvet hawk]

how well does pos attack work with daggers

artemis dagger

[cosmic steppe]

It may be anecdotal but I've noticed that more than half of my fountains come from either midshop or arachne room

[cosmic steppe]

Bad, your main gimmick is crit, you should be pumping the white number

[velvet hawk]

Mm

[cosmic steppe]

So, % boons

[velvet hawk]

apho again then

[cosmic steppe]

I mean, Apollo ain't bad either, aspect lacks in the room clear department

[velvet hawk]

hera works as well right

[cosmic steppe]

And it's the second best % iirc

[velvet hawk]

makes sense

[keen moon]

I ran into a fountain just now

[velvet hawk]

apollo it is then

[cosmic steppe]

I only ever ran this aspect with aphro attack and fished for sunny disposition

[keen moon]

@cosmic steppe your prayer worked. Thank you

[velvet hawk]

oo i never tried that, will do now

[cosmic steppe]

I'm cool with Jesus

That was back at first EA patch when it was still my fav aspect

[velvet hawk]

its not now?

[lime atlas]

Man, got my first clear last night. I really like success rate when it lines up lol

[cosmic steppe]

Nah, ||Morgan|| way more fun on daggers and I like ||Anubis|| Selene Medea Persephone and charon

[lime atlas]

Got it to heroic and had a ton of chance based stuff. I really like how builds feel more important in this versus hades 1

[cosmic steppe]

Don't open spoilers if you don't want to know the hidden aspects of daggers and staff

[velvet hawk]

gotta still unlock it

[velvet hawk]

its fine

[grave vortex]

For the boss Charybdis, When it goes into the phase where they lob out several projectiles that split and track you, whats the default expected way to deal with them? I'm aware there are gimmick solutions like gust slowing them down so you can dodge, but if you don't RNG into those there has to be an option.

I tried starting from 1 side of the stage and waiting to the last minute to run to the other side, and yet the projectiles still remain even then...I'm stumped as to how you're meant to deal with them.

[tulip pier]

is there a better cast for charon than apollo?

[elder falcon]

I don't quite understanding the Wounds curse. Is it that you get the +% attack like normal, but on the hit that applies wounds to the enemy has the +50 power?

[grave vortex]

My understanding is the damage takes affect imminently, then they are marked 'cursed' for the duration and you can't reapply wounds until it drops off?

[elder falcon]

That's how I understand it right now but the wording is a little strange to me

[junior dome]

so the % buff is multiplicative with the wound buff, right?

[cosmic steppe]

Run in the upper left corner, wait till the first 3 projectiles are near you and split, run steadily along the outer wall to the lower right corner of the room, don't be too fast so they don't cut too much corners homing at you, when you get down there it should be a second or two till the small splits of the projectiles begin to flash, time the dash through them to evade the explosion, you're done

[cosmic steppe]

Yeah, applying wounds gives you extra 100+% you got from poms/rarity on the first hit

[grave vortex]

Alright, so my theory of running on the outskirts from the corner was right, but I wasn't [pacing] correctly then...so as you mentioned, perhaps running too fast caused them to change direction and ruin the timing of the last dodge.

[cosmic steppe]

Should "leash" them in a sense, make sure they're as close to exactly following your path as possible

They live long enough to fly across the room, they don't live long enough to fly along the whole wall

Took me some practice, the fact that she's a rare encounter didn't help

It helps that there's no variety to this attack so you can get a reliable reference from somebody doing it on YouTube or smth

[grave vortex]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[glass wraith]

Tips on Rival Eris, anyone? The Luc aspect was my favorite Rail back in H1 but seems it's terrible having those aura bombs and lasers now pointed at you 💀

[stray notch]

Which is the best coat aspect to use? They all seems quite overly complicated tbh...

[rugged moon]

Slightly sarcastic but “git gud”.
Just practice. Her pattern on rivals is even easier then normal honestly. She does a lot of like 60* sweeps and forward dashes that if you are just behind her just do nothing. Bombs can be cleared using anything ranged including just her own laser. Run the outskirts slowly during the invuln so bombs take les space. You can overlap them quite a lot

[cosmic steppe]

If you're melee you've gotta have a constant damage on your cast to diffuse the orbs imo

Drop it preemptively on those that get in the way

[lapis lantern]

Nyx of Mel I think

[cosmic steppe]

Ignore the inconsequential adds

Track where she lands after flying

[lapis lantern]

Maybe people like shiva it is good but I haven't played it enough to comment on 8tn

[cosmic steppe]

You're set

[cosmic steppe]

Nyx is a better Mel imo

[lapis lantern]

Yewy well lish

I know the effect isn't huge but I absolutely feel it

[cosmic steppe]

Selene can absolutely destroy bosses, so can shiva

[stray notch]

Idk, I saw Harlan put shive as best coat but I really don't get how it should work

[lapis lantern]

But yeah u kinda play them the same

Yeah I like Selene aspect

I really really like the cost

Coat it's probs my fave

[cosmic steppe]

Drop o special, charge attack on top of it, bonk

[lapis lantern]

Oh at least I was playing it kinda right lol

[stable herald]

just alternate between OAttack and OSpecial, and stay in the Ospecial's radius to buff OAttack. very magick hungry tho

the regular attack combo on it is great too

[cosmic steppe]

I'm still fuming I got chaos's -78% magick cost on shiva ONLY when I was running variety on 0f for the ending

Could've been so high...

[lapis lantern]

I really enjoy myself when I'm playing coat, and I have a few builds that I like that are different enough for me to not get bored

Awww

Always the way lol

But yeah I'm jot sure what I prefer over the cost tbh. I do like artimes and charon

I haven't played enough of the other axes yet

[glass wraith]

Thanks for the tips!

[lapis lantern]

Played some medea today, it's dng. Is insane but I don't really like itb

[snow stratus]

hey guys good day , have a question here

[cosmic steppe]

I be pulling up to chaos at 32f and he offers me

Gathering
Max HP
Decent upgrade on my main button but I can't use it for 5 encounters

[snow stratus]

does anyone know if strenth arcana activate with only toula death defiance?

[lapis lantern]

Nah

It's a dd

[snow stratus]

ok thanks

[inland pumice]

No, any death defiance cancels out strength. But it would activate if you lost it

[snow stratus]

thanks for responding

[sour cape]

How do you build a good Hephaestus setup on the jetpack?

[inland pumice]

So if you use up the dd then strength is active again

[snow stratus]

makes sense to just go with death defiance arcana then

[sour cape]

Ive heard thats supposed to be really op? 🤔

[sour cape]

Strength is really good

because it makes healing effects better

[cosmic steppe]

Strength is not something to consider as a "last line", you simply take it instead of any and all dds to make it harder for yourself to die through the entire run

[snow stratus]

i use strength all the time but not death defiance

[lapis lantern]

It's good but I feel like it's what u take when Ur farming a fear lvl

[snow stratus]

but now i got toula im wondering

[sour cape]

So id say similar but you wouldn ttkae both strength and DD

[lapis lantern]

Being able to blow through them and swap to Athena DD is op

[cosmic steppe]

Athena+Pin my beloved

[sour cape]

Strength turns off while you have Athena DD

[cosmic steppe]

You get your own phase transition but you deal damage during it unlike those pitiful bosses

[lapis lantern]

I did some fates playthroughs today and I start str untill u get the DD arcana

Reqlly fun playthroughs tbh

[sour cape]

I think Judgement Arcana is just bad 😂

Since it def feels like win more

[lapis lantern]

It was fun to play with the pom keepsake

[cosmic steppe]

What's judgement

[stable herald]

It's just a different way to play, it's definitely not optimal

[lapis lantern]

Op it still works when u swap it out

[sour cape]

The Arcanan taht limits you to 3 cards, but you get 5 random ones every boss

[lapis lantern]

It is fun to play tho with total random and no rolls tho

Was super cool, I wish u could make it randomise weapon and familiar etc

[daring nexus]

I don't think I understand how Aspect of Nyx works? The split attack appears to hit farther away, so it skips the main target?

[kind rover]

How does Spiritual Affirmation and similar percentage buffs work? Do I get 25% buff to my current health at the time of taking the boon, or like a permanent 25% increase to my running flat health as it increases?

[jaunty garden]

did they remove charibe ? I used to face it before facing eris

[lapis lantern]

Like the great chaos challenge

[cosmic steppe]

It splits after the initial hit

[sour cape]

Hmmm Hephaestus Jetpack, how do that? 🤔 🤔

Honestly not having much luck using Heph, it seems not good

[cosmic steppe]

It backtracks and forwardtracks

[daring nexus]

yeah, but do the split hits actually hit the target? cause they seem to go past their hitbox

[lapis lantern]

I normally throw some rockets for blitz do my charge and then use my attack to pop the blitz

[stable herald]

Heph requires pomming/rarifying his blasts to their two-second cooldown, then and only then do you start to cook

[kind rover]

Thats what I thought but wanted to make sure thanks

[sour cape]

Oh? So gotta fish for poms?

How you rareify so much

[cosmic steppe]

4 seconds attack is already okay with mom skull, perfect for sprouted rotation

[lapis lantern]

Arcana gives u pretty good chance to be rare or better

[stable herald]

Assuming you complete that step, I like Volcanic Flourish plus Launcher Frame, then do an attack build and just spam attacks with free passive blasts. Usually fast enough to trigger Chain Reaction too

[sour cape]

Ohh I see

[cosmic steppe]

He instantly fills it with grand caldera

[sour cape]

I like Poseidon Special or Hestia special

and just spam rockets and Omega cast

[stable herald]

yeah coat special is one of the best for added damage boons. The coat dash-strike is great too, especially with Exhaust Riser

[sour cape]

Yea the hitting 3 times is so good!

[lapis lantern]

Yeah it's a really nice opener

I hardly ever use omegas with nyx tho, only if I'm chilling to not got hit

[cosmic steppe]

A life saver is what it is

[stable herald]

Coat has the best dash-strike of them all

[chilly swift]

Glamour Gain doesn't seem to scale with poms well at all, makes it pretty useless as a gain

[cosmic steppe]

And this game doesn't have a hunters dash, truly a shame...

[lapis lantern]

Gg is nice for like low magic use

[cosmic steppe]

It has its uses, for low magick builds it's a free status

[lapis lantern]

But it's mostly for the weak and giving me burning desire lol

[junior bronze]

Where I can find a place with good builds? Not much where look

[cosmic steppe]

Burning desire yeah

[stable herald]

Glamour Gain is more for the free status proc for Origination imo

[lapis lantern]

Check out the crossroads site

It's got so much good stuff on there tbh

[chilly swift]

Yeah, I hear that. Just wish I'd known the gain part of it scaled so poorly before I chose it with Aspect of Supay, big oof moment

[stable herald]

Tough Gain from Heph is the other gain for non-magick builds

[cosmic steppe]

Morrigan with glamour gain, flame strike, ice flourish, burning desire, freezer burn is just a beautiful Nuketown

[lapis lantern]

I really need to learn morrigan

I use GG a lot with my knives and coat builds if I'm going Hestia

Today was another day of not even getting close to 32f tho lol

[brazen wasp]

Looming ignition, bolstered or possessed I only have heroic zeus attack for now I'm new at skull

[tulip pier]

can sb eli5 hera mana boon regen boon to me, i dont understand the text

[cosmic steppe]

Gg+burning desire is just about the only thing that makes the scorch speed boon not only viable, but also busted

[chilly swift]

Is there a maximum level for upgrading via poms?

[cosmic steppe]

Very few instances where you can keep the scorch up with high rarity scorch speed

[lapis lantern]

Yewy I love to duo it with demi for the big pops

[chilly swift]

Scorch speed boon is also amazing with the aphro-hestia duo that causes scorch not to diminish

Ah that's burning desire I think actually? My b!

[cosmic steppe]

Possessed the best hammer in the game period

[chilly swift]

Possessed is amazing on nearly every skull aspect, but you need a lot of magick regen to keep it up

[lapis lantern]

Ya scorch speed boon is kinda required for a sick scorch build tbh. Sometimes I don't get it and I can really feel it

[cosmic steppe]

You need Regen to keep it up ye but if you don't have you still have a hammer that phases almost every boss before they do anything

[daring nexus]

How does Rousing Reception work exactly? Any enemy that spawns while your cast is active gets damaged?

[surreal hazel]

literally that

[daring nexus]

That doesn't sound very useful. 🤔

[cosmic steppe]

Yeah, I began religiously searching for it on any and all big bonk aspects when I run with vow of wards on

[surreal hazel]

well, maybe? it can be thousands of free damage just for tapping B when nothing else is happening

It's also a Legendary pre-req, shared with Hereditary bane

so if you're only using Born Gain from hera's cores for some reason, there's that

[kind rover]

Is Circle able to upgrade Arcana cards beyond their natural maximum?

[cosmic steppe]

Yes

[surreal hazel]

They can go to rank 4, yes, but the step up isn't honestly that impressive

[cosmic steppe]

Same with heph legendary and aspect levels

[lapis lantern]

Man hitch is just so good, Hera's dash is actually insane

[surreal hazel]

Rank 6 weapons are more like rank 8 in terms of linear progression

[cosmic steppe]

Same with cherished heirloom and non-olympian (except Athena) boons

[surreal hazel]

but in terms of linear progression, rank 4 arcana are equivalent to rank.... 4

congrats, wayward son heals 6 instead of 5, I'm sure that'll save your run

[lapis lantern]

I do with Hera's dash works better with nyx tho sometimes her dmg on contact happens instead of the nyx proc

[surreal hazel]

it shouldn't interfere

[cosmic steppe]

Shouldn't it be both?

[surreal hazel]

Nexus rush happens to nearby enemies, Nyx is on contact once charged

[lapis lantern]

It should but I have deffo noticed sometimes it not proccing

[brazen wasp]

So what do I take to support it hestia regen or born gain

[surreal hazel]

won't be nexus rush doing that

also, fun fact, Nyx Rush is in every sense an omega move

you can proc fine line from it, for 15 more spent

[lapis lantern]

It's only when I'm using this, I'm sure it says on nexus rush it damages if she makes contact

[surreal hazel]

it used to work that way, but was changed at 1.0

[lapis lantern]

Hmm ,

Maybe I'm dumb and this was the other day..

I've been using Apollo when using nyx coat cos of this

Nexus Rush is amazing

As Is much of Hera I think at least

[cosmic steppe]

I don't have a lot of nyx runs but I noticed myself being wrong with the anticipation of impact and stopping the dash too early by hand, could be the case

[urban imp]

is anubis staff even good? i can't tell. it seems like it SHOULD be good, but i can't make it work. what am i doing wrong? i'm doing the dash-cancelling, but i just can't find a way to enjoy this aspect.

[cosmic steppe]

It's amazing, one of the safest weapons out there

[lapis lantern]

Oh ok, thanks I'll see if it'd that. Cheers

[cosmic steppe]

Try master conductor with Apollo/hera attack

[lapis lantern]

I'm so lost with Anubis lol

It's so different

[cosmic steppe]

Just drop an attack and dance around instigate dead people

[urban imp]

that was the first build i tried, but i flopped HILARIOUSLY bad on the bosses

[cosmic steppe]

Gotta stay close for lightning bounces

[urban imp]

it's just a very unique playstyle

[lapis lantern]

U drag em into Ur circle of death right ?

[cosmic steppe]

I drag them with special but don't overuse it

[lapis lantern]

Yeh it's way different than the other weps which is xool6

[frigid tartan]

So question. When do you guys take heph? So far I've preferred other gods if possible because I never manage to get his boons at a low enough level, also I mostly get him end of first region or on the second, so I have a set build and feel he doesn't contribute much. Am I missing something?

[cosmic steppe]

I usually put o-attack, dash up to the extra field, put a cast in there, pull someone if need be and then run

[urban imp]

as long as you can pom it down to 2 seconds, it kinda doesnt matter

[cosmic steppe]

He's always an option for his armor stuff

[polar prawn]

I love seeing heph for my 3rd honestly, he gives great defensive boons like Security System, Trusty Shield, Uncanny Fortitude, etc

[urban imp]

it's preposterous damage, especially if ares is your second guy and you can get grievous wounds

[elfin forge]

an endgame keepsake lets you pom a ton, which can make heph the best choice

[frigid tartan]

First point I mentioned was that I never have the means to pom them so much

[turbid parrot]

what'd u use for 32 fear to get the last ||statue||?

[elfin forge]

I would avoid heph for now probably

[urban imp]

oh, sorry. i'm a writer, not a reader.

[bright gull]

When using Charon Axe do you focus on Cast boon or Special boon ?

Does the O-Cast pop damage gain benefit from olympian effects?

[polar prawn]

Plus Anvil Ring is funny (rest in peace Clang Gang I'll miss you forever)

[elfin forge]

medea

[frigid tartan]

Every heph boon goes down to 2 secs?

[cosmic steppe]

Mom skull+mom pom, in these runs heph is the god I wanna see as early as possible for my attack slot

[elfin forge]

attack and special

[turbid parrot]

i meant what fear setup ill use my staff build anyways

[urban imp]

@frigid tartan if you can't pom them, don't take heph for attack or special, ever.

[cosmic steppe]

His cast is aight but sucks vs wards, then again you can always take gale from demeter

[frigid tartan]

I mean if I get him as 1st or 2nd god, via room pom rewards it's really hard to level it anyways. As you get more boons it's harder to level it

[lapis lantern]

I get my cast first then hopefully special then I round out my cast a bit with supports then a bit more into my special

But I am a bit of a noob

[elfin forge]

Hestia/Poseidon = small fast hits
Aphro/Apollo = big strong hits
Zeus/Ares/Hera/Demeter = Support DPS/Curses
Heph = Support as well, can be your main with investment

[frigid tartan]

So being "able" to level them is not really something you can guarantee

[urban imp]

it's the most busted thing in the game if all the stars align for you, lol, but yeah, it doesn't always work out.

[cosmic steppe]

Nah my Charon specials are HELLA neglected like bruh

[frigid tartan]

I just did a Charon aspect run and melted everything

[cosmic steppe]

I can't help but gamble every last bit I have on cast stuff with Circe and charon

[elfin forge]

it's just really funny to see so many 62f runs right now with heph
Couldn't imagine it last patch

[urban imp]

he does the damage

[lapis lantern]

Sowcial gets the hammer tho ! That one that makes it attack twice is niiioxe

[elfin forge]

pom keepsake goes brr

[lapis lantern]

But circie is basically only cast stuff for me , ive only managed to get the full stupid a couple of times tho

[cosmic steppe]

Haven't quite noticed, does the fates whim persist after switching to another non-olympian one?

[frigid tartan]

I often don't even pick poms when I have the option too. Maybe that's an error on my part, but I prefer getting my god rotation and requirements for duos or legendaries asap

[lapis lantern]

Yeah it does

Ridiculous thst it is

[polar prawn]

Doing endless runs to hope for that legendary +5 heroic start Heph on Persephone skull

😩

[elfin forge]

1 or 2 poms on your main boons is a big bonus usually. Any more and you get big diminishing returns
Heph is the only god who gets exponentially better with each pom

[urban imp]

i dont understand what y'all mean, can somebody elaborate?

[polar prawn]

Yeah, as long as you don't take any of those keepsakes, all effects stay through the run so you can continue to purge/rarify things

[cosmic steppe]

Gonna send you a screenshot of almost that when I get home tmrw

[urban imp]

i know what Fate's Whim is

[lapis lantern]

So the new pol keepsake gives u +3 on boons

Pom

[cosmic steppe]

Lvl8 rare or epic right off the bat

[lapis lantern]

When u replace it u keep the effect

[cosmic steppe]

Didn't need more bc I was in the sprouted wheel for the entire cd anyways

[lapis lantern]

The same as u keep Ur dad's boon

[frigid tartan]

I guess it's pretty much a thing of it heph shows up early, focus on getting poms asap before diluting boon pool

Any particular weapon with which his boons work best?

[lapis lantern]

There is an important duo for heph as well right ? For cds

[polar prawn]

Wrapping?

[frigid tartan]

Edited hehe

[cosmic steppe]

Given you're not setting up for hestia Apollo or deme duos that way you should also fish for caldera at least once

[polar prawn]

Seismic Servo (Poseidon) for CD and Chain Reaction (Hestia) for double bonks are gonna help a lot

[cosmic steppe]

Servo doesn't help that much on high poms

[frigid tartan]

Apollo deme duos level boons?

[polar prawn]

I believe poms stop at 2 seconds so it's the only way to reduce it further

[cosmic steppe]

I meant those gods' duos with heph

[frigid tartan]

I remember deme Poseidon leveling boons

Oh ok

[cosmic steppe]

And yeah come to think of it if you can kinda cheat some poms onto heph attack by only getting 3/5 cores till pos/deme duo

[cosmic steppe]

What I was saying is that 2s>1,65s is a boost that's low-key below the usual value of a duo boon

[frigid tartan]

Imagine having 3 core, getting +3 on one, +4 on another and +1 on heph

[cosmic steppe]

Don't have to, that's my life expressed via silly rogue like game terms

[frigid tartan]

For heph level is cooldown and rarity is damage?

[polar prawn]

Rarity knocks off 2 seconds per level, damage is fixed

[frigid tartan]

So both rarity and levels take seconds off

I'm assuming there's not really any weapon that works best with it, as the blasts are not %, nor hit every attack, so it's just "put this in the attack you're gonna use the most on any weapon" I assume

[polar prawn]

I tend to put it on something where I don't use it as often, like (just spitballing here) axe special since you're usually using attack, so you'd fit it in your rotation as just an extra source of damage

Dunno if it's the best choice in slot but it's the best spot for a heph blast if you get my wording

[frigid tartan]

Gotchu, that makes sense, that way you can use a boon that's works better with the type of weapon you're using and just fill with heph

[raw reef]

Are any of the knife aspects good

[elfin forge]

hidden is good

[daring nexus]

Melinoe sure is.

[raw reef]

I was just gonna do meliones

The other ones feel very specific

[elfin forge]

Melinoe is good but it's so much % that it kinda of diminishing returns you

[sudden belfry]

currently using aspect of selene and have ares on attack, what are the best duo boons i should seek out?

[raw reef]

I don’t even have ares yet

What about the witches staff

[brittle brook]

What gods are good for aspect of pan?

[sudden belfry]

poseidon i believe

[brittle brook]

On any part in particular? Like do i want him on special or cast?

[elfin forge]

apollo special probably

Hera, Apollo, or Aphro special
Zeus attack

[raw reef]

Are there more aspects to unlock outside of these 3

[elfin forge]

every weapon has a 4th

[raw reef]

Ah ok that explains it

How about the axe?

[elfin forge]

what about it

[raw reef]

Is the melinoe one good on that?

I’m trying to just optimize my materials a bit so I can make the grind easier for myself

[elfin forge]

all the axes are pretty good, though mel axe is an aquired taste

[raw reef]

I saw Thanatos scythe in there that’s pretty cool

[elfin forge]

thanatos is really fast
charon has lots of explosions
Mel is boring but big swings

[sudden belfry]

special

[raw reef]

Mel has the extra health so i upgraded that

[polar prawn]

Than Axe feels so good with that faster swing speed

[kind rover]

The term "rush" seems new. Did dash and sprint used to be separate boon slots and now they are a single function called rush? I can't remember.

[stable herald]

No, it was just a vocabulary change since all "Rush" boons work a little different, and there are some secondary boons that only affect dash or sprint like Divine Dash

[elfin forge]

it was just to unify the terminology

[kind rover]

I see. For some reason I started to "remember" them being separate at some point

[old flicker]

the heck is mom pom

I guess I am very basic because my best clears and runs are with the staff. Not even a fancy aspect, mostly Mel. But some circe too I guess

when I unlocked the black coat I was like dang that is cool. And then I can't play it at all lol

[tranquil agate]

What's the best pet for Aspect of Circle?

[vital ledge]

chaos... buddy... don't you activate +60% enemies, wards, -50% heal and onion for 20 freaking fear. stop it

[near badge]

im gonna try Aspect of Shiva for the first time, any tips for a build? seems pretty hard to use

[sudden belfry]

I BEAT TYPHON LETS GOOOOOO

[civic salmon]

for the seek the fates thing, in oceanus, does the room with the arachne webs count?

[wooden carbon]

i have a question about aspect of charon, when i use the omega special after a cast, do the special projectiles also copy the damage gain from stuff like geyser spout? im not talking about the casts but the special projectiles

[elfin forge]

no, it's just that your cast will explode like an omega cast

[civic salmon]

also, what happens if there's a locked room?

[civic salmon]

apparently it does count

[sudden belfry]

which gale bond is the best?

[craggy valve]

I have a quick question: I’m using skulls now, and I’ve got Fetching Array already (the hammer that brings the skulls back to me). I’m currently on another hammer, and here are my three choices:

1. Wide Grin (spread pattern attack),
2. Mega Driver (+50% Attack on Specials and longer launch), and
3. Possessed Array (fire Omega Attack upon retrieval, but use 25 Mana).

I feel like all of these have bad synergy with Fetching Array (spread pattern will not hit as much as straight line spamming, I’m not using Specials as much because no need for retrieval, and Possessed Array will drain my Mana very quickly), but Mega Driver’s the least bad, because I’ve got Heph on it, at least. Agreed?

[wild laurel]

I’m abt to fight the final(?) boss for the first time- are there any tips yall have before I go in (I managed to save two death defies and I’m at a full 178 health

(Plus 15/30 armor)

[craggy valve]

If you have the Hex where you copy an enemy, killing one of those hourglasses and then activating it will cause it to heal you rather than hurt the boss.

It won’t be much, but it might be enough.

[wild laurel]

Aight

Wish me luck or smtg I guess

[opal seal]

does this game also have a cap of 5 different gods or wtv the limit is in hades 1? if so does skipping a boon in a shop still "force" me to get that god or can it be completely avoided?

[polar prawn]

4 naturally, not including Hermes/Selene and they're not added to your pool unless you actually take the boon

[civic ocean]

when the ground is big and red/gold except for the spots its not stand in those spots

[opal seal]

alr ty

[wild laurel]

DOES GE OBLY HAVE TEO STAGES

ARE THERE MORE

DID I WIN IM SCARED

[civic ocean]

no spoilers

[wild laurel]

YAYYYYYYY

first try too 😃

[cinder palm]

Why does it take 10 business day to channel a glorious disaster cast wth

[craggy valve]

FINAL BOSS DOWN on the third try!

[dull rapids]

I have just discoverd:
you can charge omega-attack with the Axe and dodge while charged up to do a dodge and follow with the wirlwind afterwards
in melee 😗
how long I tried to figure this out better remains a secret 💀

[civic ocean]

Should be noted that your dash will not leave you invulenrable as long or at all if you do this

[dull rapids]

jup, almost died on olympus just now. 4 hp at the end

how come hecuba doesnt dig up any mana at boss fights whatsoever just when i would actually need it >_>
all the way up he swarms me wit it

[spiral wadi]

hecuba only does it once per location (or encounter idk)

[civic ocean]

Once per encounter IIRC

[rustic egret]

How do yall like to build Mel Skull? Trying to get a feel for it. Like obv wide grin and/or blitz but anything beyond that?

[cerulean panther]

Don't take Wide Grin on Mel Skull.

Unless it's been fixed the damage bonus is calculated in such a way that Wide Grin completely disables it.

[rustic egret]

that so?

[cerulean panther]

Yes, each skull gets damage based on how many you have when you fire, so if you want a full Wide Grin blast the game will say "You have full skulls, no damage bonus for this Attack."

[rustic egret]

So I shouldn't take it even for silly omega attack builds?

[old flicker]

raki imo

[cerulean panther]

That would be fun, just know that you're kinda playing without an Aspect.

[civic ocean]

Wide Grin is pretty good in Mel Skull even though it doesn’t interact with the aspect - if you are playing O-Atk

[civic ocean]

Strong things on mel skull:

-lots of % based boons + fetching array

-a good mana gain + possessed array

[indigo badger]

ok, so apparently upper ubringing deactivating dosen't un-rarifies your boons, good to know?

[split igloo]

tryna refine my arcana for my sister blades artemis build anyone got any suggestions?

wait i cant sent screenshots

[indigo badger]

the loan boon from dionisus gets removed from your boon list once you cash in that loan, that can deactivate upper ubringing, but nothing gets un-rarified, funny how that works

[split igloo]

does anyone use the swift runner?

[civic ocean]

Future boons won’t all be rare in that case

[civic ocean]

Almost everyone high fear plays runner yeah

[split igloo]

yeah thought so

[civic ocean]

Unless ur playing judgement

[split igloo]

what about persistence?

[civic ocean]

Yes

[split igloo]

is judgement worth it, seems a bit sketchy for going up

[civic ocean]

65 fear you play it and you can some 62s if you highly value no hordes or onion

[indigo badger]

one thing i never bothered to check, judgment can trigger multiple times or just only once?

[civic ocean]

After every guardian

[eternal ledge]

It's after every Guardian

[civic ocean]

When maxed its 15 total cards

[split igloo]

what do you go when running judgement for the other 3?

[indigo badger]

oh, neat

[civic ocean]

Usually at 65 fear it’s just persistence strength

Grasp limit of 6

[split igloo]

persistence is kinda eh imo

i dont find it very useful

[eternal ledge]

I'm not thinking it's worth it even at lower fear but if you do Judgement + Fate's Whim you can build in a way that makes it so you fight the final boss with every non roll arcana.

[civic ocean]

Jeweled Pom is very strong so most 62+ clears in 1.0 are fate’s whim runs

[slate zodiac]

What do you guys like to start on Supay?

I hear Hera Dash is pretty good now

[rustic egret]

Hera dash, Poseidon Dash still probably better but heras very good

[lunar lotus]

So I really like playing with aspect of eos umbral flame and I'm wondering what would be the best boon for the special attack?

[indigo badger]

if you have the duo of apollo and hera, do those enemies on your side get benefit from any of the modifiers of the Hex that also raises enemies?

[glass bone]

I’ve tried Heat Rush, Breaker Rush, and the Hitch Rush. Poseidon’s did the most damage but felt the hardest to stay safe, Hitch Rush felt pretty safe but did the least damage from what I could tell. Heat Rush is the perfect middle ground for me, and is what I used to clear Supay at 62 Fear (UW)

[weary ledge]

recently unlocked Ares. What weapon aspects work well with his boons?

[glass bone]

Ares imo is the worst god. But his main benefits are for long-term fights. Wounds is a power boost theoretically for like… Mel Blades or Artemis OAttack, because Base Power combined with percents is huge. Alternatively, you could use Selene and go for the Ares Godsent.

[indigo badger]

wounds give raw power on the first hit they do each 3 seconds on a per enemy basis, "power" as in, its applied before multipliers, so its good if you pair it with zeus, as you can blitz > wound to detonate blitz on basically any circumstance

[glass bone]

The main benefits I can think of for Ares is Selene Godsent, Grievous Blow, and the duos Fourth Degree and Heinous Affront.

[indigo badger]

other than that, ares dosent really have that many good "main boons", but kinda good long passive effecs, like healing each time you land a hit (if you are below a treshold) or the one that makes you hit for more damage with a chance that grows the less health you have

the swords can miss more that then feel like they should sometimes

[weary ledge]

so like medea skull with blitz on special and ares on attack could be an example of a good build for him?

[indigo badger]

that could work

if you do that might as well go full zeus, as you can go heinous affront

its better that you think at first glance

[lunar lotus]

Okay but like which should be on special and which should be on basic?

Oh wait I misunderstood

[indigo badger]

im asking how those effects interact, do the enemies raised by that duo work on the same logic or not, as in do they get benefits like the "can activate [on getting hit] effects"?

[lunar lotus]

I don't think so but idk. Thought you were answering my question

[indigo badger]

divine vengance with double strike, is indeed, very funny

[austere trail]

what goes well with aspect of moros? I've tried blitz and it works well but I got bodied by unrivalled kronos

[indigo badger]

any effect that gives you benefit from letting it just go, hera could be good on special, as it could just go ham with the hitch damage, similarly to the special of the hel skull aspect

[glass bone]

What did you have?

[austere trail]

lemme boot up the game and check, one sec

[glass bone]

Best build I can think of for Moros is Hera Attack, Zeus Special, and Born Gain.

[dull rapids]

i wished i would get O-attack on muh axe but noo, only specials when I intently not picked the special version >_>

[indigo badger]

im pretty sure that the the daybreak orb counts as a omega attack, so it can trigger the zeuz boon of making omega attacks inmedialty trigger blitz, so that could work too

[austere trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584505260068962304/1424153720064708708/image.png?ex=68e2ea02&is=68e19882&hm=e8311bca8324aaf8a0820b00cf6e4f31136956923050c38a63b65755adf0c32d&

[dull rapids]

yes, in my experience day break triggers O-attacks

[glass bone]

The main reason why you want Zeus on Special, is because the OSpecial in its orbit will probably hit the enemy before your Attack explosions, and Hera on Attack is used to make that explosion damage hit several at once.

[austere trail]

ah nice, I see

so I'm guessing I use hera's keepsake first, then zeus?

[indigo badger]

that's pretty good then, wanna try that now

[glass bone]

Also, you need a Large Gain boon that constantly refills Magick well enough, because Unseen doesn’t work from you channeling constantly. In theory, some gains like Cardio, Glamour, or Grisly could work, but Flood or Born Gain I think are best, even at really high fears (50-62)

[lunar lotus]

I mean most of the time my gameplan is to get my main omega to fly towards the group of enemies then get the special omega going and spam special turning my orb into a flying meatgrinder. So far I had success with Zeus boon on my special, but that build relies on getting the omega early detonation boon from Zeus too

[dull rapids]

i got demolished when i played with thing but it was my first run and my boons were chaotic disharmony

[fringe mantle]

What are the best online resources for strategy on meta? Ty

[dull rapids]

this channel 😄

[glass bone]

Yes

[austere trail]

tysm!

[glass bone]

Although you could just run into Zeus, so then you don’t need the keepsake

[austere trail]

yea

[fringe mantle]

I anyone have a good guide on keepsake order/strategy?

[glass bone]

Because the really only boon you need is Zeus Special, and in theory, you could do without Zeus Special (boated did a 62 with Aphro Special instead of Zeus Special)

Zeus Special is ideal, but the main components I think are Sworn Strike and Born Gain

[tacit laurel]

||does anyone have a good build for morgian its messing with me ||

[glass bone]

Depends. Do you mean pushing fear, or time? (I.e. Fear to 62/65/67, or Speedrunning)?

[fringe mantle]

Not sure lol. I’m fairly new to probably just main boss completion or resource farming

[glass bone]

Also, Mobalytics and H2Crossroads are websites with a lot of guides and runs. Do note that H2Crossroads may have spoilers, and Mobalytics may not be able to give all of your answers.

[glass bone]

Ok, then in that case, best keepsakes are typically a God Keepsake (from the Olympians), then some additional permanent bonus (Ghost Onion, Experimental Hammer, Silver Wheel, etc.) for Regions 2/3, then some final region keepsakes in 3/4 (like Luckier Tooth, or Knuckle Bones).

[tacit laurel]

i love knuckle bones

[junior bronze]

Which is best staff?

[glass bone]

Circe Staff, but Mel Staff is reaaaaally close, and Hidden isn’t that far behind

Circe and Mel Staff specifically are contenders for being potentially the best aspect in the whole game. Medea is the only other contender imo to that same tier, and although Medea does more damage, it is not as safe to play.

[junior bronze]

Okey thanks, yeah Medea is too agresive

[indigo badger]

the staff is just a very realiable weapon overall, so at that point you are just picking witch part of the staff's playstyle you wanna minmax

[glass bone]

Ok, here’s what it is. For Damage; Circe < Mel Staff < Medea. This order is reversed for safety.

[indigo badger]

just did a run with circe, got winner's circle and apollo's cast on epic, i really didnt have to think trough the whole run

[glass bone]

In theory, weapons such as Hidden Blades, Charon, Moros / Eos, and Nyx are also “S Tier aspects”, but I think those 3 are like a step above the rest for damage with no problems reaching that damage, and for being extremely flexible for boon choice.

[spiral wadi]

yea omega cast circe is super fun

[dull rapids]

yes its a double buff to either cast boosting and bonus dmg to foes inside the cast aswell

[indigo badger]

Now im thinking about what to have on attack with the hel aspect, having into account that i always go hera's special with that aspect, usually i would go poseidon, but the duo of hera and poseidon dosent really do that much for the aspect

Any suggestions?

[glass bone]

Hestia Attack also works

[tacit laurel]

Circe my beloved

[indigo badger]

That could work too actually

[dull rapids]

I went for heavy scorch on backstabbing daggers but it slowed me down soo much that i ended up dying to prometheus because the 999 fire dmg ticked soo slow lol

i thought it might me funny to watch the enemy burn down but turns out you need some dps after all

[indigo badger]

Wait there is a cap to the burn damage?

[crimson rapids]

Unfortunately

I know there’s a duo boon so it doesn’t decrease under the right conditions

[dull rapids]

anything above 999 is ignored and you need to wait for it to trickle down based on the 100 fire dmg/sec

there are boons that increase the trickle speed or to never reduce the amounted fire but you need to be lucky to get those

[indigo badger]

Eugh, no wonder that one time i did a full scorch run it felt slow at some point, good to know it wasnt placebo then

[dull rapids]

nah its not placebo 😄
no competition to some regular hephaestus bonking

but a neat asset on daggers, i always pick it for attacks since they are so quick

[lunar lotus]

I just start with Arachne keepsake and keep it until my armor breaks. That bell keepsake from doom is also quite good if you're struggling

[tacit laurel]

Have you managed to bring the dress to the end?

[lunar lotus]

Yes

[dull rapids]

its possible to keep up your armor, but you have to look out for the resupplies imo,
also some moon boons give temporary armor which might help

[indigo badger]

I really have to do the dress thing at some point, but it will have to be on purpose, as it would be the most sensible thing to do that at fear 0 (but it would be addmidetly lame on my part)

[dull rapids]

my usual first keepsake is the one that makes common -> heroic on a random one,
so i can decide which i want to have as heroic

[sudden belfry]

so my first typhon defeat was with aspect of selene (and ares godsend), what should i try nextttt

[lunar lotus]

Well the easiest way is to bring Arachne keepsake and try to get hephastos boons. Especially the one that makes your damage scale with armor

[tacit laurel]

i had to go back to 0 fear to get something it feels so weird

[crimson rapids]

I just finished a run with 44% baseline dodge and Blue Athena Dash + Stutter Step

[dull rapids]

melenoe axe on O-attack is neat

[sudden belfry]

inch resting

also how do i get the dust/fur? ball for dumbest sleep incantation or whatever

[dull rapids]

thats a lot of dodge chance you massed there 😄

[lunar lotus]

I just like doing the umbral flames cause I like making the enemy play bullet hell, plus the dodge window is bigger when I'm far away from them

[crimson rapids]

What’s the highest you can get with good RNG?

I got 18% Hasty Retreat 14% Wispy Wiles 10% Smaller Stature

[brazen wasp]

so about argent skull i tried like a zeus hestia attack build with their duo but the dmg wasnt really there, idk what im doing wrong

[rugged moon]

Argent mel aspect has base power

You want a % attack boon not a flat like hestia and zues

[daring frost]

I had a decent build today that got me to my second ever Typhon fight.

Had the hammer that made picking up skulls use my O Attack, mixed with Aphro making things weak, my cast doing splash/froth dmg, (and a few other boons I'm sure I'm forgetting) it did a pretty good job of melting Eris and a bit of Prometheus.

Probably could have taken Typhon too if Prometheus's memory attack hadn't eaten two of my DDs even though I got the pattern right (apparently I still need to work on my timing.)

[kind rover]

Bro. The game screwed me so hard. Got to the secret boss for the first time with a good build, but my controller stopped working after an alt-tab for literally the first time ever for no reason.

[sudden belfry]

how do you find the secret boss?

[brazen wasp]

prism or cascade for selene

[stable herald]

Mid-shops after beating the game

[brazen wasp]

which ones are those

[indigo badger]

what is the best gain for using incandesent aura (hera/hestia duo)?

im guessing born again, but im not sure

[cerulean panther]

Depends on the build, honestly.

Except Tranquil and probably Ionic Gain.

The other 7 all have ways to very quickly generate Magick depending on how it gels with your kit.

[indigo badger]

im asking for damage using the duo

its 0.2 seconds per activation, but its 500% the magick you gain, so burst gains also should do the trick

i will go hel's aspect if that extra info means anything

[calm arch]

i can't believe i forgot this but how do you dodge this chronos phase 2 attack where these damaging rings come in toward the center

[indigo badger]

dash has I-frames, same as the flame rings of hecate as only the outer part of the attack deals damage

so you can dash over the outer area of the ring

[compact ginkgo]

what do u guys think the best build on revaal is?

[cerulean panther]

Depends on the Aspect, but probably Medea with [insert Origination-proccing Attack] and Zeus Special.

[compact ginkgo]

i'm pretty early on, no aspects yet

just trying to make it past cerberus 🫠

[indigo badger]

all aspects of the skull play too differently from one each other, so i cant really recomend a specific build for the skull

[compact ginkgo]

what about just the base skull?

[indigo badger]

on the base skull using zeus would work, as the base omega attack damage deals enough to detonate blitz early

[tacit laurel]

You got this!!!

[indigo badger]

with how big the omega attacks are on base skull, making it bigger with apollo could help you if you struggle with groups

[tacit laurel]

freeze might help too if you are having trouble dodging the dogs attacks but i have no idea if that is good on skull

[compact ginkgo]

o i basically nvr use omega attack on skull 😅 i just fire all my skulls, omega special to retrieve, and rinse and repeat lol

[sacred storm]

skull + apollo attack + apollo legendary + wide grin is a good time if you can get all the pieces

[indigo badger]

regular special also retrieves btw

[compact ginkgo]

freeze works on dog?

[tacit laurel]

ye not for too long but long enough

[compact ginkgo]

honestly cerberus wouldn't be too bad, i just keep getting there with no health 😭 .... so just taking too much dmg in the mourning fields

i hate those punching bag dudes

[hardy idol]

Question, does|| Zagreus ||get any harder? Or is the current moveset all he has

[compact ginkgo]

ok ig i'll try zeus or apollo, thanks guys!

[indigo badger]

unlike other arenas in this game, you arent really forced to fight on an enclosed space on the fields, so you can just go far then wait for the enemies to come to you, that way you can get more and more used to the enemies before being comftable brawling with them

[compact ginkgo]

ooo ok good tip.... im used to hades 1 where i just jump in and start mashing all my buttons with my insane build loool, but yeah ig i dont have enough stats rn so i gotta take it slow

[indigo badger]

specially with the skull, as that weapon is basically the equivalent of the "gun" of hades 1

[indigo badger]

take your time, you will get better with time, as Hecate says in one of the pre-fight dialoges "there is a reason their craft is called "practice""

[calm arch]

wow that was pretty simple lmao idk why i didn't try that

just got first chronos win on my new v1.0 save

i started with apollo keepsake and tried the entire game to get nova strike and didn't get offered it once

i forgot how this game is without rerolls lmao

[fading sluice]

Is Chaos keepsake something I bring early in the run? I assume its effect stays even when you swap it out right

[wide glen]

What do people use for Melinoe Skull? Feels like I only see people talkin about Medea lol

[sacred storm]

transcendent chaos boons do stay even after you swap out the keepsake. god keepsakes are typically the best option for zone 1 just so you can get a build started, but there's no drawback to using chaos's keepsake since it doesn't roll any of the curses.

[sacred storm]

wide grin + apollo legendary is funny, if technically suboptimal since mel skull's bonus doesn't work right with wide grin. (calculated when you press the button, not on impact.)

[fading sluice]

I think I will bring it on zone 2 instead

[lean yoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1nxwip9/call_me_hephaestus_cause_its_hammering_time/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1nxobni/i_guess_hestia_really_wants_me_to_have_a_boon/

[compact ginkgo]

can you get multiple boons on one attack? in hades 1 it wasn't like that but i'm noticing that for cast sometimes you can have two god boons on it so i'm kinda confused

[lunar kiln]

does poseidon on attack and special on medea work? i can't tell if both splashes are proccing but i know they fixed the cooldown issue

[rugged moon]

just like in hades 1 there are "support" boons for various abilities but you can only have one primary boon

[rustic egret]

What's the optimal way to set up arcana for fates' whim? Since IK jeweled pom is very strong and i wanna get the most out of these runs

i know the judgement tech but beyond that im clueless

[spiral wadi]

swap the 3 card reroll for artificier, and the 4 card can be put on anything like huntress/night, or if u really want queen (like i do) then dd + strength

[split igloo]

it does and its usually my third, i go in order: god boon required for build, apollo, chaos, white antler

[rustic egret]

is there any thought given toward trying to get Divinity?

[viral yew]

https://imgur.com/a/ZhnRvP9

[rustic egret]

right that's roughly what I was running, thanks

only diff I had was messenger, swift runner, and lovers out for excellence but now im guessing thats probably not worth

[spiral wadi]

i just do middle row

actually i do high fear so i don't do wayward son but that's a solid setup ye

i still prefer having artificier cuz it negates a bit of fates whim by giving urself some more major rewards

and that can still proc the middle column by swapping the omega slowdown

[junior dome]

1. If you have 100 real armor
2. Then encounter starts and security system grants you 100 temp armor
3. Then you take 50 damage (absorbed by armor)
4. Then 7s elapse and temp armor goes away

Do you end up with 50 armor, or 100?

[spiral wadi]

iirc security system is supposed to take priority and will leave u with ur 100 real armor

[rustic egret]

from my own experience it pulls from temporary armor sources first

[junior dome]

so temp first, but if you treat your run as an opportunity to playtest for bugs you might find an exception, gotcha

quite liking sec system with heavy metal

[spiral wadi]

ye, i remember having super weird armor interactions that hurt my head lol

[junior dome]

on the maraca torches

[rustic egret]

I mean all of the defensive heph boons are just super nice

Sec Sys, Trusty Shield, the health from max magic one, all tight

[spiral wadi]

yea heph is primarily a defensive boon giver, his blasts require some investment to really get running but he can get super funny offensively

[rustic egret]

ive yet to do a very good heph dingdong blast build

i may try it...

[spiral wadi]

dingdong best build fr fr

[sacred storm]

heph can be funny with aspect of persephone + jeweled pom. lots of free levels, which is half the battle to getting him up and running.

ofc if you're running the pom you need to find him naturally

[junior dome]

i only have blast on the special and just using it to break armor

hestia heroic +4 on attack so probably the +% from heavy metal is a small fraction of my overall damage
the armor is nice though
the build takes so little damage as it is

oh, hestia heroic +8 actually, thanks echo

[stray shore]

i never see anyone run the eternity arcana, is it bad? i've grown accostumed to it, should i change it?

[spiral wadi]

it's a good arcana, i'd recommend keeping it unless u feel like ur comfortable with omegas without the slowdown

[viral yew]

It is defiently a big change if you've only ever played with it

I rememer the riots when they first removed it

[spiral wadi]

lol wait what'd they replace it with

[junior dome]

honestly while learning boss patterns its super helpful

on demand bullet time

[viral yew]

I can't remember they reverted it the next patch after putting it on hecate keepsake

[spiral wadi]

ooh i see

[lapis lantern]

Hey guys

[viral yew]

Nergal I am so sorry for doubting you this weapon is amazing

[rustic egret]

Nergal slaps

throw a %damage on the attack and whirl away

[lapis lantern]

Do you just spin to win?

[rustic egret]

yeah p much

[cerulean panther]

Eternity used to be Sorceress?

[lapis lantern]

I thought the move set was pleasing to look at

[cerulean panther]

You take Apollo Attack so that your spin hits about 75% of your screen by the last spin and get super easy heals.

[viral yew]

Works with alot of boons but apollo is best

[lapis lantern]

I only used it once in the chaos trials and it was super fun

But I was just being a noob and doing combos then the slam

[junior dome]

huh, just had a heph blast go for 1500, does it benefit from crit chance?

[lapis lantern]

The move set was quite cool to watch the special eycb

Luthien has a lot to answer for telling me about the pom keepsake

Been playing for hours

[viral yew]

I'm just a girl :3

[lapis lantern]

What a terrible excuse lol

[sacred storm]

depends on the source of the crit chance. something like raki or pressure points, yes, they can crit.

[tacit laurel]

||The fruit one?||

[lapis lantern]

So with the nergal u just get the proc rolling and start spinning ?

[viral yew]

you just start spinnin and you don't stop spinnin

[lapis lantern]

Haha ok

[viral yew]

and hope for psychic wirlwind

[lapis lantern]

Hammer ?

[viral yew]

yep

[lapis lantern]

Just bashing skelly I think tge move set is one of the best In game

[obtuse schooner]

Any tips against Zagreus? I beat him once with Morrigan but I can't beat him again to get his keepsake

[lapis lantern]

Gonna give it a whirl now, any other suggestions for boons ?

Medea and turn brain off

Honestly

[rustic egret]

The biggest mental roadblock you gotta get over is that zag is honestly really dumb

like, very very dumb

spend a minute running around the arena and you'll be like "oh, he's stupid. got it."

[sacred storm]

he flashes before doing his spin and i think that's honestly the most threatening attack he has

[rustic egret]

that too

and when he pops DD he does spin twice in a row and thats it

[sacred storm]

his casts have light homing but it's honestly nothing to write home about, they're easy to avoid

[obtuse schooner]

Also can the contract appear twice in a run? I keep seeing and taking the contract in Erebus so I might need more boons

[sacred storm]

i think so yes

[obtuse schooner]

His spin attacks can hit through the pillars so I was shocked that it managed to hit me while I was behind one lol

[rustic egret]

they run on hades 1 logic

[obtuse schooner]

Think I should try fighting him like I did with Hades in the first game

[rustic egret]

Honestly you should

They have... remarkably similar movesets

different, yes, but the spins are near spot on

[sacred storm]

pretty much yeah. there are some subtle differences but between his casts inflicting boiling blood and the spin attack it seems like it's clearly meant to be an homage to the hades fight in h1.

[brazen echo]

Any tips for aspect of selene? I got it to rank 5 because I wanted to unlock the coat’s hidden aspect and have a reason to level selene’s keepsake but then I discovered that a) the coat’s omegas feel bad and b) the hex feels really weak 😭

I never did get all the complaints about the coat’s omegas until I had to actually play around it as a main thing

[sacred storm]

apollo o-attack covers a surprisingly large area, you can try building around that

[obtuse schooner]

Honestly I just won a run with Selene by stacking Zeus and spamming the normals attacks and cast

[sacred storm]

can't go wrong with blitz lmao

especially if you hit a fat king's ransom to boost it

[obtuse schooner]

I tried builidng around the omegas and it was too hard lol

[lapis lantern]

Selene with aphro attack and spamming the shield gave me my first surface clear

But it's a lame play style

[sacred storm]

one trap i kept falling into with selene is when i took ares for the godsent, i would take his attack or special for wounds while forgetting that godsent sky fall already does wounds. so there was too much wounding to go around.

[lapis lantern]

I prefer coat just using the abilities not omegas

[brazen echo]

My favorite coat aspect might unironically just be mel

[lapis lantern]

Coat is easily my fave wep

[brazen echo]

For lack of a better alternative

[lapis lantern]

Yeah it's really nippy

I use nyx tho

[sacred storm]

i do like mel coat the most out of the aspects

[obtuse schooner]

It is satisfying tho being able to hit a charged omega attacks and taking a chunk of a boss's health

[brazen echo]

As someone who’s favorite hades 1 weapon was demeter fist the coat’s are kind of dissapointing

[sacred storm]

fast punches go brrr. poseidon attack + static shock + arterial spray is a fun time

[brazen echo]

And pure attack spam daggers kind of don’t have a real aspect

[lapis lantern]

I like zues special and Hera attack

[sacred storm]

mel, sort of. they backstab innately. artemis if you stretch it and only use oattack for the parry.

[lapis lantern]

Set up a load of blitz and pop it and spread with hitch

It's super fun r

[sacred storm]

i think the biggest weakness of the coat in general is that you kind of need to see what hammers you get before you can really decide how to build it.

lots of good options but hard to get an agnostic setup

[elfin forge]

idk coat works fine with attack and special spam, relying on zeus and hestia boons

[lapis lantern]

Shimmering rockets and frame launcher is so absurd lol

[elfin forge]

it feels pretty hammer agnostic

[brazen echo]

Weapon balance overall is pretty good tbh, i just think they need to buff coat and daggers a bit

[lapis lantern]

Yeah sauce I RELLY love it for thagt

[sacred storm]

blitz and scorch can definitely carry a run but that's on the strength of the status effects more than anything else

[lapis lantern]

I just really enjoy your coat and it's moveeet etc

Quite enjoying this nergal spinning but I seem to take quite a bit of dmg B4 she gets going

[obtuse schooner]

They need to buff Pan for daggers. That is probabl one of the weakest aspect in the game

[waxen gorge]

i finally had some luck doing a hep Medea build. got seismic servo, chain reaction and a bunch of lucky boon options that just made all those hammers banging so satisfying, tried to get rude awakening but had no luck though

[brazen echo]

Pan’s generally regarded as the second best dagger aspect tho

[obtuse schooner]

Over mel and moriigan?

[brazen echo]

Over mel and artemis

Morrigan is considered the best

[lapis lantern]

Morrigan is the best right ?

I quite can't get the hang of it

[obtuse schooner]

I thought Artemis was considered the best

[brazen echo]

No

But also pan and morrigan scale really well with ranks so if they feel weak to you try leveling them first

[obtuse schooner]

I have been using max upgraded pan and I find it weak unless I get trick knives compared to the others

[waxen gorge]

just want to make sure, so Aspect of Persephone will give all boons +x amount of levels or will it give it our randomly?

[brazen wasp]

how do i build medea

[sacred storm]

random. there's a 50% chance of no bonus levels, and successively smaller odds of +1, +2, etc. up to +whatever the max is.

[sacred storm]

zeus special, something beefy on attack. if you're feeling saucy you can do ares special instead and fish for grevious blow but blitz is more consistent. go for double strike and a bunch of hera boons, then try to grab king's ransom.

[brazen wasp]

is it strong on lvl 1 i dont have any nmare rn

[viral yew]

yes

[sacred storm]

i don't know the l1 stats offhand but i see no reason why it couldn't work anyway

[waxen gorge]

i like to burst with it. so something that can apply a status effect on attack, then something that can proc it on special. you can do zeus attack and hestia special, because their duo will proc it. i like using hep on special though, because of the AOE and there are a few duo boons that make it fun.

[viral yew]

heph is kinda buns on medea because of how much you need to proc it, you always want to go for blitz

https://imgur.com/a/PiSUCU7

Anubis goes absolutly insane

[waxen gorge]

true it requires a lot of investment. will try a blitz build next time

[stoic shuttle]

im using the axe and the hammer offered me Hell Splitter, the one that gives 300 power but the attack becomes the final chop, is it good because to me that sounds kinda slow and awkward?

[viral yew]

it sucks don't take it

[stoic shuttle]

yeah it sounds awful

thanks for confirming

[waxen gorge]

i think it works if you get something that speeds up your attack. i think its supposed to be used with Ares with all the plasma it would drop, but plasma is pretty lame. i wish it would last longer than the location you're in

does any one have any good circe build ideas? I'm thinking Raki is probably the best familar to use

[viral yew]

Raki and zeus cast

[spiral wadi]

yea raki with zeus cast is rly solid

[brazen echo]

Toula is pretty good too if you can stand the micromanagement (I can’t)

[low elk]

Quick question, what's the boons you want for the skull hidden aspect? It's been a while since I've played so I can't remember (also don't want to name it because of spoilers for new people)

[spiral wadi]

toula's pretty solid too, but yea the micromanagement is a pain

[sacred storm]

i like hera special and poseidon attack. hestia attack could probably do work as well.

[low elk]

Got it, thanks!

[spiral wadi]

by the way what was that thing in one of the h2 release date trailers where it showed an invulnerable enemy with fang trait popups, i've literally never seen that in game

[sacred storm]

there's an incantation you can unlock that makes special monuments appear in chambers sometimes. depending on the monument, it'll challenge you to either defeat a wave of enemies without getting hit (similar to erebus chambers in h1), or drop a single really beefed up enemy on you that you just have to kill by any means necessary. the beefy enemy will show the invuln barrier as it announces its perks to the player.

[kind rover]

Does ||Chronos Phase 3|| have a 1 shot? I feel like I got one shot but I was so disoriented by the environment I don't really know what happened.

[sacred storm]

it's been a hot minute since i fought unrivalled chronos but i don't think so.

[cerulean panther]

I don't recall ever seeing one, leaning towards no.

[stray shore]

should i switch the boatman for excellence?

[glass bone]

No. But there are some extremely high damage moves in that phase

[glass bone]

More often than not, you shouldn’t. The one exception is like… ||Jeweled Pom runs||

[plain condor]

is strength + artificer better than death + lovers? all are same level

[glass bone]

But even then, Excellence could be outclassed by Boatman

[glass bone]

Depends. What’s the context?

[stray shore]

got it, thanks

[glass bone]

If it’s Any%, Strength > Death, and Artificer and Lovers are both good (Artificer takes time away, but could give back time from a more powerful build, Lovers can be a save when you use Antler)

[plain condor]

just for general runs I suppose, I am still unlocking grasp and stuff rn but this is an option I have to potentially switch to, while keeping my centaur and divinity

[glass bone]

Well for general runs… Death > Strength for a first clear, then Strength > Death until you take Vow of Pain, Scars 3, and/or max Rivals

[lapis lantern]

So id kike to report some progress as I have No1 else to tell I cleared a 24 but I knocked the frenzy up to 2 and the timer to 3. And shiled on 1. Gnna try a few more to see if it was a fluke or not and then start adding up to 32

Frenzy on 2 is quite the rush

[glass bone]

Actually, I should clarify; this is a super late game spoiler (post ending), but… ||Fate Whim runs in general could perhaps see Excellence over Boatman, provided you take Time Piece Region 2. That keepsake choice fills the void of Boatman||

[junior dome]

yo, is the ||Worry Free|| boon the ultimate counter to ||Typhon||?

[plain condor]

what arcana do you recommend leveling up first

i only have wayward son and centaur leveled up one time so far but I can buy some more with my bones

[stray shore]

thanks, ill remember that. U seem to know alot of this stuff, so i have to ask; i really like a build with thanatos, so full crit and all that, but i dont know if i should switch the wayward son and swift runner for the night, if i do it also removes divinity. what do you think?

[sacred storm]

Probably some combination of origination, persistence, enchantress, champions, fates, and either strength or death

[tight prairie]

Any recommendations on Rivals polyphemus? Ive tried slowing down and hitting from a distance, but so far he's the only boss I really struggle on (beaten chronos twice, faced typhon once)

Rivals hec seemed perfectly fine, but it seems like every way I try to fight polyphemus i spend more time running for the wells than actually fighting him. In Hades 1 i pretty much exclusively played with the alternate bosses once unlocked, even when I didnt need more heat, so I was hoping to do the same again here

[kind rover]

Bro. WTF is this|| Typhon Rivals|| fight. ||Kid Melonie.||

[viral yew]

peak gaming

[compact ginkgo]

oh god i got to chronos and wtf how am i supposed to deal against || 999 dmg || ..... does the spell work??

[tall notch]

Whenever he does the oneshots there is a safe zone to stand in

[compact ginkgo]

so if u don't dodge ur screwed?

there's no other way? x_x

[tall notch]

You can tank it with armor/lovers charges

[compact ginkgo]

how can u possibly stack that much armor 😂 you'd have to build exactly for it right?

[tall notch]

You used to be able to iframe it (and at some point of EA the timing was even fairly generous) but I'm not sure if that's still a thing you can do

[compact ginkgo]

also p sure lovers would be long gone by phase 2 for me

[tall notch]

Ohhh, hits into armor don't overflow. If you have 10 armor, the oneshot is just going to eat it and your health stays intact

[compact ginkgo]

oh!! i didn't know that

well, its unlikely my armor will last that late into the game and then also through first phase at this stage haha. but good to know

[tall notch]

Best thing to do against that move is getting used to running into the safe zones

[compact ginkgo]

dammit, ok i'll just have to try again haha

[indigo badger]

I tried runs with strenght and othera with death, somehow strenght feels better?

I would need to do the math , but it feels like my resources means more with strenght, as treating the damage reduction as a increase of the efficiency of both max hp upgrades and healing efficiency

[viral yew]

dd gives more health, strenght gives better healing and more damage

strenght is better for 32 fear and under

[indigo badger]

I also realized that on most scenarios if you burn one of your death defiances, its the usual for that loss to follow another

Now i wondrñer, does the healing you recieve with DD get affected by scars?

Or using a DD dosent count as healing?

[tall notch]

Scars doesn't affect DDs

[polar prawn]

In my experience I found success with DDs when I was struggling with specific encounters but Strength helped me get through the general region with better relative healing and damage output

[uneven palm]

The full red screen run to the glowing clock circle. That’s safe.

There’s another instakill where he moves to the center and there’s a black outer ring, black center, normal ring in the middle. Stand in the normal part.

[polar prawn]

What's the part you're struggling on specifically? If it's with the poison lines that ||Medea|| throws between phases, I think it's a small but helpful tip to realize her patterns never touch the entrance/exit as a safe zone (though that won't stop other attacks from hitting you there)

[tight prairie]

Nah, im usually safe during the phase transitions. It just seems like a lot of his attacks travel faster or there's something im not seeing because im having a lot of instances of thinking its clear to attack him, then suddenly im poisoned. I run to the well and try to reposition back into the fight and suddenly poisoned again. Just struggling to process everything I guess?

[polar prawn]

Oh yeah, I think he's one of those first wakeup calls with the vow -- really comes down to timing dash through his shockwaves and stuff. Doesn't help that everything is green lmao

Keep practicing and you got this tbh

[lean yoke]

i found a pool of serpents with hera's sprint so i'm doing laps and occasionally attacking and waitinf for them to die

it's fun

[kind rover]

OMG. ||Chronos 3|| down. I have no idea how I'm going to survive ||Final Typhon.||

[nocturne isle]

Any advice for good builds for swinging for Typhon? I've been on a cold streak so severe Hestia is scared of me.

i got him exactly once but i had so much healing going into it i was practically immortal (That thing where it burns magic before health, the thing where your HP recovers with each swing, on knives)

and i have not been able to replicate that

[indigo badger]

well, finally did surface at 24, now I have to figure out how to do the underground at 32, any tips for fear configs?
for now I always play with rivals 3, hordes 3, menace 2, fangs 2, shadow
then adding a mix of hubris, scars, grit and pain

[nocturne isle]

jebus

[indigo badger]

i really want that statue

[nocturne isle]

i bet.

[polar prawn]

Honestly I think Time 1 is genuinely free and 2 isn't that bad

[nocturne isle]

Time one is free, genuinely.

[viral yew]

I'll share mine

[indigo badger]

somehow forgot to add time 1 into "always pick" list, oath so free i forgot i have it on

[viral yew]

time 3 and frenzy 2 are both free

[polar prawn]

Frenzy 2 takes time to get used to but once you throw it on, you just play and eventually get acclimated yeah

And then you never take it off because otherwise you become like me, forget how long Chronos' default instakill takes to pop, and move out of the circle too early :V

[indigo badger]

Anything by that points works really, if you maged to beat prometeus you can beat typhon, the problem really is that typhon hits like a truck, so once you get used to the patterns its not that bad, just be really attentive to him moving his jaw back if you are at melee range, as that is one of the most dangerous attacks if you dodge too late as it can be really easy to dodge a bit too late.

[polar prawn]

Besides the chin slam, up close is really the best place to be in my experience

[indigo badger]

yup

[viral yew]

https://imgur.com/a/BmIJqk0

Why is it not uploading

[indigo badger]

also during phase two, when he uses the laser beam attack, he uses it twice, at melee range, you only need to dodge the first one, as the second one will miss

somehow feel like stacking grit and time 2 is going to be a mistake

so maybe staking it to 1 might be for the best

[viral yew]

yes

[indigo badger]

oh well, finally did the "yeetus deletus" spell for typhon, the grandpa can wait for 1-2 runs until i figure out a good oath config for the underground

[viral yew]

https://imgur.com/a/Cbvleck

@indigo badger

I give up

[indigo badger]

im sorry

[viral yew]

For what?

[waxen gorge]

how is daybreaker treated? does it have its own seperate cooldowns eg blast?

[civic ocean]

No it doesn’t

[indigo badger]

Its treated as an omega attack, meaning it can trigger that one "omega attacks trigger blitz effects inmediatly and makes them stronger" boon from zeus

[cosmic steppe]

Melinoe never acquired true true permament invincibility, but... the Premium Service given by Hephaestus caused her Aspect of Nergal to reflexively perform berserk state in order to avoid damage. in other words, in the 8 seconds following 4 strikes, Melinoe is effectively immortal.

God I love this aspect

[cosmic steppe]

People say that dodging proms Simon says with dashing is cold but lately I've been occasionally full dodging chin slam and it always feels good, i-frames barely cover the active frames of the attack

[polar prawn]

Same, it feels like a dance almost when you have it down

[verbal tapir]

Stupid question. I see on the Internet test people talk about Origination with 63%, but i my caps at 50?

[polar prawn]

Circe has an option to take an active Arcana at random and upgrade it from Epic (in Origination's case, 50%) to Heroic (63%)

In most cases you should be capped at 50% though

[lyric kernel]

Does each omega special in sister blades, aspect of pan (I believe) also act like this with blitz? I tried it today but couldnt tell. Feel like it doesn't

[polar prawn]

i don't think it's easy to tell with Blitz specifically since Blitz is limited by its animation: the lightning bolt has to drop and the animation has to finish before another Blitz can be started so I don't think that'll happen by the time all the Pan blades hit -- I'm inclined to believe they all count as one omega special though, so only one proc?

[lyric kernel]

Ooh good to know, it makes sense now that it doesn't work

[indigo badger]

pretty sure that you can reapply blitz while the animation of it detonating is playing

that's the real limiting factor there

[edgy stone]

Shiva aspect is broken ..... once you put poseiden specials and get the poseidon legendary and heph attacks ...... its just cake walk from that point onwards

[ionic widget]

after beating the time king, should i keep b eating him or go overworld and beatg whoever the boss is up there

[edgy nacelle]

Both are fine.
The surface is generally harder, but if you haven't done many runs on the surface yet then you'll unlock new things by doing that (including many that you can use in the underworld too)
Order really doesn't matter, I'd alternate back and forth myself to keep the gameplay fresh but truly just do whatever sounds fun 🤷

[civic ocean]

You will need to beat them both a bunch to advance the plot

[ionic widget]

ok

guys i only have 30 hp but i hav e that one card that is supposed to give me extra hp so why it not working

[viral yew]

Have you activated it?

[ionic widget]

yes i have persistence it even shows in the boon info thing when i press b

i also have the centaur but for some reason only my magick went up and my health is still 30

[viral yew]

Do you have white antler equipped?

[ionic widget]

nah

[viral yew]

Are you sure, that's the only thing that will keep your health at 30

[ionic widget]

oh i do

[fallen stirrup]

how exactly do you play the circe staff?

[ionic widget]

damn this kinda mid i think ill just gut this run

[viral yew]

Take raki, go for zeus cast

[edgy nacelle]

focus on cast damage!
there are kinda two routes you can take. I'd try starting with Zeus cast since it gets online really fast.
alternately you can try to focus on Ω casts and stack a lot of boons which affect that—poseidon's is the best, apollo and ares have one too.
So I usually start Poseidon or Zeus for Circe

[opal bay]

Zeus/demeter/poseidon cast, bird/cat, demeter gust on cast, O cast bonus from demeter poseidon apollo ares, hermes winner circle

[fallen stirrup]

So do you just focus on casting or omega casting?

[cosmic steppe]

Are centaur hearts replaced by centaur souls on max scars?

[fallen stirrup]

dont focus deep on dpsing with your attack or specal?

[cosmic steppe]

Functionally

[opal bay]

U might not even need to attack/special if u got the right combo

[cosmic steppe]

You fill in with them during cast eruption at best

[edgy nacelle]

cast will be your main source of damage, but you weave in other attacks too. just prioritize your cast since it's what Circe does best and is based around.
if you get winner's circle you may have enough channel speed to not have time to use other stuff lol, but if you're playing zeus cast then you'll be attacking while your cast does its work

[cosmic steppe]

U also fill in the slots just for better chances of cast stuff

[civic ocean]

you dont even have to be super specific on the type of cast

any good cast boon will be fine

[opal bay]

#h2-victory-boasting message
my O cast was instant, and it also instantly go away so i was just running around spamming O cast

But that was becoz of heroic winner circle xD

[edgy nacelle]

(also winner's circle is a hermes boon which makes your Ω cast channel faster and expire/deal damage sooner, in case you don't know! so if you're playing Circe and focusing on Ω casts it's a really important pick up)

[fallen stirrup]

ok another question does the cast effect the link?

[opal bay]

Nope

[fallen stirrup]

awww

[opal bay]

Link dps fell short really quick so just focus on cast dps

[edgy nacelle]

the leash damage isn't all that important tbh. it gets decent if you upgrade the aspect...? but the main appeal is just 2x cast damage (and potentially AoE)

[fallen stirrup]

gotcha so just focus on the double cast hits

[opal bay]

Ideally u’ll wanna have poseidon cast, demeter gust, posei + apollo + ares O cast, demeter O cast dmg, demeter ares duo, hermes winner circle + O moves speed

That’s insane dps for ya

[fallen stirrup]

roger ill try

[opal bay]

And also good layer of protection since gust

Hammers dont matter at all

[fallen stirrup]

Really?

none of them influence the cast playstyle at all?

[opal bay]

Yep all hammer gives attack/special bonus

[cosmic steppe]

None period

[fallen stirrup]

thats sad

[edgy nacelle]

yeah, hammers don't do anything for your casts.
some hammers are better than others but it has little to do with playing Circe, more like... what boon ended up on your attack/special, and which hammers are better in general regardless of aspect

[civic ocean]

Remember that just because Circe makes your cast good doesn't mean you should tunnel vision on it

You can still take good hammers and boons for your attack and special, Hammers are still VERY good on Circe

[cosmic steppe]

Cast is not part of any weapons movelist inherently, makes sense

But Charon ax is another cast aspect and it does benefit from two hammers

[edgy nacelle]

like, if you're playing hestia cast and get cardio gain then dual thrasher is really nice, even tho it doesn't interact with your cast! same with wicked trasher if you're playing apollo and get his % bonus on your attack

hammers do help you a lot when playing Circe, they're just disconnected from your cast

[fallen stirrup]

Ill tread the waters and find what i can possablely do on the fly

[opal bay]

Btw u can also take zeus instead of poseidon as air quality is insane with demter cast & gust & ares & apollo O cast effects

[edgy nacelle]

you should be fine!
just get any good cast boon online first (imo, at least when trying to learn the aspect), and improvise from there. Circe is pretty strong with just a cast, and everything else will fall into place based on what shows up during your run, so experiment and see what feels good

[fallen stirrup]

so ultimately you want a good cast effect with grandmother/apollo and ares extra effects

[opal bay]

Yep

[edgy nacelle]

and yes but you don't need that, really any good cast is fine. if you're doing zeus you could also go storm ring + double strike + king's ransom to pump a ton of pom levels into his cast, for instance
but stacking those effects is very popular! not the only good option, but a fun one

[civic ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH2vReUp3OE Here's a video of a high fear clear from early access, demonstrates how circe works pretty well

[fallen stirrup]

May i ask why the birb?

[civic ocean]

all pets work

[opal bay]

Most fun i’ve had was demter cast & gust, ares appollo O cast, zeus air quality, zeus apollo duo, zeus demeter duo, ares demeter duo

[opal bay]

Becoz it sticks on enemies most of the time

And it doesn’t take away strength arcana like the cat

[viral yew]

Shameless self promo

[civic ocean]

I trust the content

[viral yew]

Real

[fallen stirrup]

oh wait thats actually his lol i didnt even notice lol

it looks interesting ima just jump in and try and see if i can beat a fear 1 on it... chrono isnt that hard

Oh and thank you all

[indigo badger]

because the bird is the most likely to be on top of enemies, so we are running on terraria IA summoner logic here, the one that is on top of the enemies tends to be the one with the best damage, not out of good numbers, but because its actually where you want it to be

[mortal jay]

where are popular comm build lists

[indigo badger]

on a full cast build with circe, Raki might as well be Mel's stand

[edgy nacelle]

tbh I kind of prefer the familiars that stay close to Mel when playing Circe. if Raki chooses to attack an enemy I don't want to prioritize that can be awkward, but if they follow her around then it's easy to either stack double casts or position the familiar where you want then dash-cast to drop a circle somewhere else too

but they're all really good, it's just a matter of personal preference 🤷

[indigo badger]

pretty sure you can force raki into you by getting far enough so raki is off-screen

[edgy nacelle]

still, I just personally prefer how some of the other familiars move. idt any familiar is actively bad with Circe, in any case, just... different

[indigo badger]

fair enough

at the end of the day, if it works, it works

[fallen stirrup]

Air quality is so fn broke on tiny tick build

[late mica]

So question about flood gain. Using it first time and I dont really get it. So I use x magick, and then over y seconds it regains. But y increases as you level it up, so clearly theres some benefit over it taking LONGER to restore. Only answer I found in this discord thus far was that its because omega moves dont cost any magick while flood gain is active, but I have it at 8 seconds for 8 cooldown (so if that was true then I proc flood gain, while recharing they all cost 0, and then by the time its off I should have it up again). Does it take 8 seconds after flood gain wears off? Because it usually odenst feel like that to me (usually feels way shorter), but its the only reasonable explanation

[civic ocean]

Y seconds stands for the amount of seconds during which anything you use gets added to the regen stack, the regen stack doesn't change in terms of restore.

It is always Y seconds on, 8 seconds off, Y scaling with rarity and level (except with Seismic Servo, the Pos/Heph Duo, which changes 8 to 5.2)

[late mica]

Ok so it was that, I just thought the cooldown didnt feel like 8 so it confused me. Thanksf or confirming

[spiral wadi]

plus whenever flood gain can be activated or is activated, you are free to use as many omegas as u want during the time period even if u lack the magick for them

[late mica]

yea I did notice that. Its just im going omega build and needed to decide between magick regain (Aetheric Moonburst) or damage (Mirrored Thrasher).

[violet orchid]

What are y’all favorite builds to run? Or a build for an easy run as a warm up?

[spiral wadi]

i really like putting poseidon splashes on literally anything, even tho it's off meta (in most cases, certain weapons do actually benefit massively) it's super funny to play with

[viral yew]

Shiva with apollo and pos

[tall notch]

Hestia special Nyx

[sudden marlin]

I realize after 40h that when I pick bless from gods its sometimes combine with selene moon power...I there any list with all combinations ?

[spiral wadi]

from the wiki
Phase Shift - Demeter
Twilight Curse - Zeus
Lunar Ray - Apollo
Wolf Howl - Hephaestus
Moon Water - Poseidon
Night Bloom - Hera
Total Eclipse - Hestia
Dark Side - Aphrodite
Sky Fall - Ares

sky fall is part of the selene aspect

[night spruce]

Which is better for argent skull, melinoe or persephone?

[signal coral]

up to personal preference

I like mel skull more but they're both okayish

[night spruce]

Real

I know medea is supposed to be really strong but I prefer a ranged playstyle

[viral yew]

Try persephone then

[tall notch]

Melinoe is more hammer-dependent. Without the hammers Persephone will likely do more, but if you get the strong hammers it will start dishing out silly amounts of damage from perfectly safe range.

[night spruce]

Cool, thank you all for the thoughts!

[snow stratus]

good day all

anyone ever tried sister blade parrying?

[viral yew]

Yeah, it's not amazing

[snow stratus]

thanks

[reef ice]

I find it hilarious that you can parry ||Chronos's one hit KO attacks|| with it.

It's tricky to use but I kinda like it.

[pastel vortex]

how can i get poppys?

[reef ice]

Find seeds in ||Tartarus||. If you have already found ||Hecuba|| that will help you find more seeds. You can also note whatever you need them for with your Forget-Me-Not, then you can see which paths in that region will lead to the seeds.

[pastel vortex]

Thank you

[brazen echo]

are the purple enchantments of selene's hex even worth it?

feels like it's better to get more hex casts than the effects they get

[reef ice]

Perhaps it is; I think it depends on the situation

[dull rapids]

I just beat chronos but still have a chaos boon that damages me when using specials.
Should i kill myself and see what happensß

[tall notch]

I find Artemis parry handy against telegraphed moves with long wind-ups (mostly from minibosses/bosses) but rarely bother using it in regular rooms

[craggy valve]

Does Double Dose sync up with Mirrored Thrasher?

I’m curious to see if I’m gonna triple strike enemies once in a while.

Eh. Dash boon’s better.

[rain drum]

Does paid dues (hermes legendary) work with armor?

[brazen wasp]

is hestia any good on medea

[viral yew]

Nah

[tall notch]

Foolish had Hestia attack in his 67f Medea, so it has to be good right

[opal bay]

I still have that thing left to prevail and i’ll say 1 thing, it sucks

[opal bay]

Why do i feel like foolish just took whatever not too bad as an option so hestia was there xD

[viral yew]

Leave my Artemis blades alone

[opal bay]

U sob just said the same thing here lul

[viral yew]

It's not amazing but I love it anyway

[ember frigate]

would cardio gain work well with aspect of anubis?

[viral yew]

Yes

[near badge]

what works with Aspect of Persephone?

[iron grail]

what count as 'when hit' for Froth? Does each tick of arctic ring count?

or Storm ring?

[cosmic steppe]

Does nimble limbs only apply to setting up Anubis attack or tick rate too?

[cloud night]

Is Hades keepsake permanent? Like, it stays after I remove it?

[near badge]

yep

[brazen echo]

So long as you don’t put on an olympian keepsake

Aside from athena and dionysus

[viral yew]

Athena no longer works

[violet orchid]

What are some good boons for mel ax?

[mellow owl]

How do I buy ||Nightmares|| from the Broker? Apparently I should be able to, but I still can’t. At this point I’ve gotten enough from various runs to upgrade one Aspect fully (||Aspect of Selene|| my beloved), but he still hasn’t started selling it

[tall notch]

Oh I was just joking, he absolutely only picked that up because he had nothing better and 67f doesn't allow you much control over the build

[cosmic steppe]

Hermes too is Olympian who is an exception I suppose

For fates whim I mean

[tall notch]

It's because the wording says Olympian summoning keepsakes, his keepsake just makes you faster and doesn't make Hermes show up

[cosmic steppe]

Aphro attack

[violet orchid]

Anything else I should get or any duo’s I should look out for?

[brittle brook]

Does romantic spark work with medea? Since your mainly gonna be using the special for movement anyway?

[tulip pier]

whats the go to arcana setup for the new keepsakes? i imagine you ought to start with judgement, but what else?

[viral yew]

Everything but rerolls, and not judgement

[violet orchid]

What are some good boons for mel staff?

[viral yew]

https://imgur.com/a/ZhnRvP9

[viral yew]

Aphro on the special

[tulip pier]

any% on special and a curse on attack

[stray notch]

Can I use Morringan without caring for the blood trial thing?
It's super clunky to proc @_@

[viral yew]

No

Just dash attack, oattack, special, repeat

[tulip pier]

start with omega attack, if you are close oyu will get both attack and omega stack, then use special, you should get a stack->proc and get a new special stack for another loop

[stray notch]

But is the damaghe high enought to justify this hassle?

[viral yew]

Yes

Once you get it down it flows really well

[sacred storm]

777 per proc at max rank, higher with certain hammers. yes it's worth.

[stray notch]

ok ty guys, any specific build ytou suggest?

[sacred storm]

gotta get the flow down to trigger it often ofc

[stray notch]

I would go with Aphrodite but maybe there is something better

[viral yew]

Zeus attack or special, hestia or Demeter or another curse on attack or special, doesn't matter which

Blood triad isn't affected by any damage modifiers so you want to stack high burst damage with blitz and origination

[flint widget]

you could go for the classic apollo attack final slice combo (a person has won 62 fear surface with this btw) but imo just go for blood triad spamming

[lunar lotus]

Is Judgement card worth it? Or is it more like something for a challenge run?

[jaunty garden]

what should i try with argent skulls ?

[viral yew]

It's a meme/challenge

[viral yew]

Apollo/aphro attack, any curse on the special

[jaunty garden]

with any aspect ?

[stray notch]

could you elabprate pr send me the video or something please? :3

[viral yew]

That's for base, for medea you want zeus special aphro attack and for persephone you want hitch/Apollo on the special

[lunar lotus]

What about the queen card?

Is it good?

[viral yew]

The arcana card?

[lunar lotus]

Ye

[sacred storm]

it's good but it's not so good that you need to stress over keeping it active

[viral yew]

It is good, but you don't want to sacrifice too much to activate it

[violet orchid]

Good boons for nyx black coat?

[viral yew]

Pos attack, hera special, go for shimmering rockets

[lunar lotus]

Though looking at judgement I can activate it plus 3 cards and up to 3 0 cost cards. That's 7 cards at the start if I upgrade judgement to max and bring crystal figurine that's extra 7 which is 14 total which is the same as all of my other builds (the only problem is that I don't get to choose), after boss 2 it's 19 and after boss 3 it's 24

[viral yew]

Yes you can easily get all arcana

Problem is you can't run strength

[daring nexus]

It also has anti-synergy with the ||Fate's Whim|| keepsakes, no?

[viral yew]

If you have fates whim active then judgement won't pick rerolls ever

[daring nexus]

wait, really?

[viral yew]

Yep, so 22/25 arcana rather than all 25

[tall notch]

actually, now I wonder... can you get || fates whim || in the randomiser Chaos trials? Does anyone happen to know?

[light nymph]

this is how I understand scorch, someone please tell me if I'm wrong:

scorch inflictions are added to a pool
the pool drains at a rate of 100 points - and 100 damage - per second
if you inflict more than 100 scorch per second, your damage from scorch does not increase, but it does mean if you need to stop inflicting it (to dodge, etc) it'll still keep ticking down from the pool and dealing damage, just never faster than 100 dps so the hestia cast effectively is just a 40 dps for 3 sec cast on its own

[viral yew]

No, they're locked as long as you have reroll arcana

[viral yew]

Yes

[light nymph]

Thanks!!

[lunar lotus]

Why not?

Also it seems like you get free fear with judgment

[viral yew]

You pull dd's, it's cancelled