h2-builds-and-combat

[high crest]

Demeter/Apollo/Ares/Posideon + Hermes lets you make a pretty wild Circe/Omega Cast build.

[unreal shore]

What are apollo boons good for? So far i cant find any use for his boons

[flint widget]

geyser spout is really the main boon u should be looking for tbh, the rest are just add ons

[unreal shore]

any good duo combos with apollo

[flint widget]

his attack and special have massive aoe, plus his daze effect is op plus if u have a run that is built on omega attacks and specials, his legendary is good for that

[unreal shore]

mmm

maybe the fact that his attack and special boon doesn't have special effect on it is what makes it feel bad

[flint widget]

what aspects do u have unlocked

[unreal shore]

not much, artemis for sister blades and the torch one where your omega moves explode 3 times

[flint widget]

i see

[high crest]

Assuming u mean Momus aspect on staff, Apollo can be pretty good on attack or special imo. I like Apollo attack + Aphro special. And aiming for Apollo legendary on that one is a hoot.

[honest wadi]

been months since i played, gimme a build to get back into the game with pls

[daring nexus]

How does this work exactly? If I dash after launching an Omega move but before the Omega move actually hits, do I still get the crit bonus?

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[flint widget]

momus really only starts popping off once u get mirrored thrasher imo

[dull rapids]

i assume projectiles can critically strike after you dashed (just in time before impact)?

[flint widget]

mel staff, get zeus attack and aphro special, bonus points if u get dual moonshot

[honest wadi]

thank u

[high crest]

Here is a couple super fun builds imo.
Heph is in a great place rn so you can make some crazy blast builds. Circe omega cast builds are also fun if you want to visually impair yourself.
#h2-victory-boasting message

[honest wadi]

what weapon do u suggest for heph blasties ,,

persephone ?

[high crest]

I had Persephone on that run for the free boon levels

Yea, helps get the cooldown to 1 second on the attack boon. Plus you can roll some nice bonus damage for the blast curse (can’t remember what it’s called)

[honest wadi]

persephone is like one of 2 i dont have the stuff for lmfao, persephone and nyx

ouu ok fank u ill work towards getting it :3

[thick knoll]

im thinking what would be a good build for tier 3 vow of rivals ||surface||

[frank cape]

Aspect of artemis on blades + ares attack + hammer that makes your omega attack deal 400% damage
gives you about 2500 damage per omega attack its insane

[honest wadi]

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[surreal hazel]

What weapon?

[honest wadi]

mel staff

[still quartz]

How do you unlock the trigger dialogue for weapon Aspects? I have rank 5 weapons and talk to the right unlock characters, but they're not triggering. Instead they're talking about other stuff.
I've spent like 3 hours over a few days trying to get Artemis and Charon to tell me the trigger word, but it's not unlocking. Is it bugged in 1.0 or something?

[digital juniper]

are the weapons at rank 5 mel aspects?

the rank 5 weapon has to be a non mel-aspect

and also unlock all other aspects of said weapon

[still quartz]

Some are Mel, some are not. Like Charon's axe is rank 5 Thanatos. Blades are Mel.

[flint widget]

keep rolling for her special

[digital juniper]

for Charon you might just have some higher priority dialogue
for artemis, you need to level up a non-Mel blade aspect to 5

all you need is
the incantation to unlock hidden aspects, forgot the prereqs to get it
rank 5 non-Mel aspect
all other aspects other than the hidden aspect unlocked
then you can talk to them and eventually they’ll give you the waking phrase

[thick knoll]

that and you can only get 1 per run (including when you get back to crossroads) and you need to speak the waking phrase to the weapon (dont need to unlock it but just speak the incantation)

also if you want flames because of priority dialogue that one might take a while

[digital juniper]

oh yeah i haven’t thought of that, in EA it was relatively quick

[thick knoll]

i think problem now is there is more dialogue especially his relationship and more minor prophecies so clogs up a bit for it

[fading dew]

... Isn't it a bit unfair to have a locked weapon to have the thirst effect?

[thick knoll]

maybe tehy thought by the point you get thirst most players already unlocked base form of all mell weapons]

[still quartz]

Hm, might be a mix of priority dialogue and Mel weapons for the blades then. Thanks!

[digital juniper]

it might also be intentional tbf, it was the same case in H1 iirc

[willow kraken]

Yeah that definitely felt bad

[blissful niche]

hey there, since I love meme~y builds, is there something like an actually kinda valid movement build?
like some skills give you dmg while moving, Zeus lightning strikes enemies next to you or Hestias fire trail - but no idea if they're pimpable to be the main dmg source lol

[median anvil]

get the torch hidden aspect

[blissful niche]

oooh that looks cool, thanks

[surreal hazel]

Occasionally yes

But we're talking king's ransom builds

[unique locust]

I'm really having a hard time making the Aspect of Pan work. It feels like the Omega Special attack takes just... a bit to long to charge to be worthwhile. Any tips?

[surreal hazel]

Trick knives

[unique locust]

Ooh. That's a good point. If I can get a good dash buff as well, that'll probably do good together.

[surreal hazel]

Your regular specials will home in as well

[echo briar]

What’s everyone’s favorite cast to use alongside nergal? I’ve been using Hestia’s consistently but maybe there’s better options? I just lucked into a heroic apollo attack boon and wanna experiment lmao

[surreal hazel]

Dealer's choice honestly

Arctic ring to stop them hitting you while you bash them is no bad idea

[mental copper]

whats good for anubis

posedion?

[surreal hazel]

Everything

Except flutter strike

Heck somehow I made volcanic strike work one time

[violet orchid]

What builds y’all recommend or have fun using for the black coat?

[glass bone]

Nyx; Scorch Special spam

[wet pawn]

Wth happened the mini boss on the fields kept healing and beating me up this never happened before

[dull rapids]

I bought it yesterday 20 pm and now i gave chronos what he deserved for the first time ^-^
i intended to go for melee dmg with dual blades but i ended up as a hardcore aoe mage

[gaunt flint]

so uh something to note, i was playing with anubis with ares on attack,, and when i faced against polyphemus, it was pretty hard to tell the difference from his stomps and anubis' circle 😭 like i could guess where to dodge since polyphemus had a much larger range but they were really similar in colour

[surreal hazel]

Damage to you or the other shades heals it. Don't get hit.

[mild pumice]

what do you guys think, best build and aspect for 32 nightmare surface run?

[wet pawn]

Damn it never happened before. That's really annoying with charon

[civic wing]

Does luckier tooth work with the Strength arcana?

[split igloo]

medea and origination

[mild pumice]

which god's keepsake do you recommend? zeus' ?

[tranquil shard]

It does not- Luckier Tooth will deactivate Strength, but it won't remove it from your run. When you use the DD provided by Luckier Tooth (assuming you didn't somehow pick up other DDs), Strength will reactivate.

[civic wing]

Okay thanks

[south copper]

Same with the thing from Moros

[split igloo]

hera/demeter for easy origination procs or aphrodite/zeus if youre going for raw damage and procing origination some other way

[subtle peak]

guys i need help i use the wand and i need to get more damage and hp

[wet pawn]

I already have 4 gods but the game showed me a 5th one on the shop????

[still ferry]

New player, but could I take engraved pin and another source of death defiance, then just use the 10 seconds of impervious to whale on the boss? Or would it not give me the additional life?

[subtle peak]

idk any help

[split igloo]

You don't really need HP, just dodge, as for damage, what aspect are you using?

[subtle peak]

i dont have any

i started a few days ago i just beat cerberus

[wooden cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348151957111701517/1421871193627037776/image.png

LOL this was fun

[stable shale]

Got it doubled from echo ? 👀 I'm jealous

[wooden cedar]

Actually i got the Due boon from Hera/Zeus.

Why cant I post videos here?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348151957111701517/1421873182335434893/Hades_II_2025.09.28_-_16.50.14.01.mp4

I am Aurelion Sol.

[worldly vector]

Which weapons synergize with hera boons?

[glass bone]

A lot actually. Hitch is one the strongest curses in the game (probably worse than Blitz, but it’s AoE can be better than Blitz), and Hera’s percent boons are really good compared to the competition. If I had to name a few though…. Mel Staff Special, Hidden Staff Special, Any of the Non-Hidden Blades with Trick Knives, Moros, etc.

[scenic spire]

anyone have a good descura build?

[radiant axle]

Y'all I need some mf tips on Pan daggers. Can somebody give me some pointers to make this weapon truly shine?

I feel like every other weapon in the game speaks to me except that weapon. Idk what I'm doing wrong!

[glass bone]

Mel Staff, Circe, and Hidden Aspect Staff are considered extremely strong. But since you asked for one, here’s one everybody can do.
For Mel Staff, there’s a guide made by Haelian on YT, and Vytautas on Mobalytics, but the general gist is Blitz Attack, Hera/Apollo/Aphro Special,and either spam OSpecial, or for higher fears, Dash Attack -> Special spam.

[scenic spire]

thanks yo

[pastel vortex]

where can i get iron?

[surreal hazel]

Surface zone 2

[unique locust]

What's the most braindead build anyone's comeup with so far? I had a run with Yignium, Ares on attack and Omega attack, Poseidon for Gain, and Hephaestus cast and the entire run was just... press q, hold down one mouse button and watch every single enemy melt

[glass bone]

Ok, idk if this is requested, but TLDR of a history of Pan; Pan in Early Access used to be turbo busted. You would take Poseidon Special, and spam OSpecial for 7 waves EVERY single time. That AoE and that much damage has been nerfed countless times since everybody saw the combo. However, people have complained, so the nerfs have been partially reverted.

For the intended fear levels (up to 32 Fear), you can play Poseidon Pan to a pretty good degree, but honestly, the best combo for Pan is the one used by Artemis and Mel Blades; either Trick Knives + Hera Special (and Reaper Knives if you can get it), or a full Hephaestus Blast Build (go for Attack or Special, grab the Glow curse, and the duos combining Heph with Hestia first, then Apollo, then Poseidon).

[pastel vortex]

Okay thank you

[radiant axle]

Got it. Yeah it's a shame because the weapon seems cool but that Cast restriction really hurts sometimes

Thank you a ton for the detailed explanation.

[surreal hazel]

Lightning lance can really help you

[glass bone]

I feel like the cast is one of the better parts. It means you get Homing projectiles, and enemies that are smaller still get hit by the OSpecials.

[radiant axle]

Oh I forgot about that boon!

[surreal hazel]

But don't feel compelled to use the cast to lock on every time. You can just fire it

[radiant axle]

I'mma give them another try with your tips thanks y'all
If I get a W I'll post it here

[surreal hazel]

You can just use dancing daggers and ignore the homing part

Hidden knives and reaper blades obv

But honestly if you luck into a good attack build, just use it

[glass bone]

The most braindead option is probably Hidden Aspect Torch, where you just grab Hestia, Poseidon, or Hera Sprint. But if you don’t have it, I’d suggest the build I recommended to ryanworld with Mel Staff, OR a Circe build if you have familars

[surreal hazel]

If you're just trying to win. Any aspect can do any build

[glass bone]

Circe recommends you get a specific familiar (the cat), Hestia or Zeus Cast, Arctic Gusts from Demeter, and then just spam cast.

[glass bone]

And here’s the Mel Staff build

[unique locust]

Mmm. I may check it out, although Dash attack is a bit finnicky on Keyboard and Mouse. The timing feels off to trigger the actual dash attack.

[glass bone]

If I remember correctly, there are times where you can misinput an Attack instead of Dash Attack, so if you want, you can start with the Special spam on its own, and then get used to animation cancel and add the Attack before each Special

[supple dragon]

what boons pair well with morrigan?

[glass bone]

If there’s a specific boon, you want to go for a Gain, preferably something that gives a whole lot of Magick back. If you want to spam Attack with a few OAttacks, Cardio Gain or Grisly Gain could work. But I’ve found my favorite in Flood Gain

[surreal hazel]

Nova strike and final slice is a one-button victory

[glass bone]

Outside of that… Morrigan’s main benefit is (eventually) a 777 burst damage option. So any late game combos (so perhaps a Blast build, or maybe something related to Pyro Technique) is great.

[glass bone]

Also this is true. And also you can use Flood Gain Sweeping Ambush to a similar degree.

[ionic widget]

is hades 2 and hades 1 metas similar when it comes to the reward choices like fruit or coin?

[unique locust]

Besides Hestia and Zeus, and the other more niche ones like certain hidden boons later on, do any of the other gods have ranged casts? I haven't seen them, but I'm just being sure.

[surreal hazel]

Hestia has glowing coal

[glass bone]

There is I think one other option, but it’s not great imo, and it’s also a big spoiler for early game players; ||Howling Soul||

[surreal hazel]

Other two are npc boons

[glass bone]

Oh wait, yeah there is a second NPC one

||Howling Soul from Hades, and Tipsy Shot from Dionysius, but they are late in the runs (Tartarus and Olympus), and I personally don’t like them compared to Lightning Lance or even Glowing Coal||

[unique locust]

||Howling Soul is good if you haven't managed to put anything together by that point with cast, but while Tipsy Shot does a ton of damage, it takes waay to long to come down,||

[surreal hazel]

Glowing coal can be a heavyhitter with the ares duo

+300 power is no joke

[unique locust]

glowing coal is SO good. It's so nice just being able to throw a big damaging zone across the map and make enemies stay in it.

[surreal hazel]

Lance is generally better tbh. Instant and only slightly less damage

But fourth degree is good. And (sadly) glowing cosl is a legendary prereq

I say sadly becsuse it fights against her own legendary

[unique locust]

Can glowing Coal be combined with Arctic Ring? I feel like there's some insane potential there.

[surreal hazel]

Sure

Glowing coal isn't a core boon

[unique locust]

okay im gonna fish for that next run

I kinda want to do a run where I see how many cast effects I can stack at once.

[surreal hazel]

Tier 2 boons mostly aren't exclusive

Lance and coal are

Arctic gale, prominence flare, gyser spout, supernova? Go nuts

[final sedge]

Anyone know a good place to look up a review or ranking of boons where someone talks about each boon and talks about what’s good or not so good about each one?

[glass bone]

Well I would recommend Mobalytics, but atm, there hasn’t been enough time yet to discuss every single boon in one page.

Also, there is a guide by unexplainedbacn / leeramsynder for 32 Fear that covers every weapon, but that’s not every boon

[final sedge]

I’m thinking like an hour long YouTube video. Haelian has a god tier list but he doesn’t bring up each boon and its description.

[fluid flare]

Which nocturnal arms is the best?

[glass bone]

That’s because there are a lot of boons. There’s also all of the NPC boons, and some of them vary depending on weapon / aspect and vows.

[glass bone]

For what goal? Speedrun Any%? ||Speedrun All Rivals?|| 32 Fear? 50 Fear? 62?

[fluid flare]

normal clear

[final sedge]

Was there any tuning since the warsong update? Or is warsong info outdated already?

[glass bone]

Well any weapon can very easily clear at 0 with enough practice. But if you really want a first clear, Mel Staff or Mel Axe can work very well for their high Power bonus.

[glass bone]

Warsong is extremely outdated.

Unseen was a major balance patch (especially if you count the additional patches of 10 and 11), and 1.0 changed a solid 20-30 things in addition.

[glass bone]

Mel Axe is paradoxically less safe, and more safe than Mel Staff, because while Mel Axe is a slower weapon, it deals more damage, and gives bonus HP instead of Mel Staff’s bonus Magick

Either weapon imo works very well for a first clear

[dull rapids]

I tried a few runs with the sister blades so far (on 2 fear right now), but i feel a clear difference in difficulty wether i take armor breaking aoe or try to go for melee builds..
Aoe is so much more easy imo i almost never get some melee bonuses

[dense sluice]

what animal familar is best for circe gotta get a win with it for fated list

[final sedge]

Why do people like demeter’s cast so much. Regular snaring stops enemies about as good and the cooldown on freezing seems really long. Can you explain it to me?

[dense sluice]

activates origination easily

[final sedge]

Ah, I haven’t started playing with priv status/origination much.

Zeus’s blitz takes forever too.

[surreal hazel]

Stops them attacking you

[final sedge]

Im loving scorch cast though. And I found her cast a fireball cast at a distance and it’s awesome!!

[dense sluice]

depends on the weapon/aspect, something slow like the axe probably isnt good but i really liked it on momus

[glass bone]

I’d say a really good aspect is stopping armored enemies like hitstun.

[surreal hazel]

That's 2/3 of her legendary prereqs btw

[loud moat]

For many enemies the cast simply slows them. Freezer is most motion stopped entirely.

On top of some solid damage it’s just an overall improvement to the base cast.

It also effects all enemies unlike say, Zeus cast which is only 1 enemy.

And with HailStorm, it essentially becomes a better version of Zeus cast anyways

[jade plaza]

I'm absolutely blown away by this game. I unlocked a new weapon: torches. Pressing the basic attack button fires magic from them, and if you hold it down, every third attack drains mana and deals extra damage. Just to be clear, simply pressing and holding the button are considered different attacks in the game. I ran into ||chaos||, who offered me a deal: I'd restore 15 mana every second (a lot), but in the next 5 fights, I'd lose 5 damage for each attack I used while holding the button down. I thought, okay, I'll just press them (not holding) and not use them for the next 4 fights. But no f way! Pressing the attack button separately STILL triggers a third, enhanced attack, which counts as holding the button down. And the curse can't be reversed. 10/10 goty game sure ign

[final sedge]

Is her legendary good?

[final sedge]

Zeus only does one enemy?

[loud moat]

One enemy at a time yes. The bolt damage is higher than Dem cast, but with Freeze you can just smack them while they’re frozen and taking chip damage anyways

Dem cast could do half the damage and it’d still be amazing imo

[surreal hazel]

Interesting

Deletes most projectiles that touch your cast and adds 400 scorch to that projectile's owner

[final sedge]

I ask because I’ve not gotten a legendary yet

[surreal hazel]

They're fussy. They all need a one boon from each of three sets of boons from that god

Unusual to see them unless you go hard on that god on that run

[final sedge]

A whole bunch to learn. I’m still getting used to the game play pattern. I felt like I was good at hades 1, but hades 2 is very different.

[loud moat]

What’s different that is throwing you off?

[final sedge]

Projectiles and aggressive enemies that seem like they require the cast to snare them because dash and sprint don’t work. Also seems like the dash has a harder time phasing through things as compared to zag. Like the branches in act one’s mini boss I feel like I should be able to dash over them but it seems hard. I also get stuck behind set pieces that I feel I should be able to dash through.

I also just need to learn fight mechanics. Like the sirens feel like I should be able to do it hitless but I’m still taking a lot of damage.

[dull rapids]

I happen to dislike the torches very much aswell, their playstile feel off

[echo briar]

What boon would you guys recommend for an omega attack build on selene aspect

[jade plaza]

Im so sad I bought it in EA and didnt liked it very much, gave it a shot, bop release still a same game (slightly better), Game is fine tho, but not the 10/10 fr

[final sedge]

You’re downgrading the game because of one curse of chaos on one weapon’s gimmic?

[jade plaza]

its only a top of the iceberg

[vital yarrow]

night bloom is the best imo, plus if you get Aphro + Hera boon you've got 2 allies distracting enemies every fight

[final sedge]

10/10 games requires no skill checks on your part?

[echo briar]

Sounds fun, I don’t think I’ve gone that path before. I was aiming for aphro or hera on attack anyway so this is good thanks!

[final sedge]

Chaos boons have always required a modification to gameplay for a few rooms.

[jade plaza]

A game with disgusting game design that is buried deep under wonderful art and music. There is no skill requirements, its just grind requirements. Game is 100% rigged and scripted, its not roguelite at all. Did you beat the game on your first run? I wonder. This game is all about numbers. What are the skill you are talking about? hades I never was about skill. The essence of the second Hades is that you just play run after run for resources. Oh, the prophecies! Please get all the Daedalus Hammer upgrades just to complete all the prophecies, even if you don't want to play them. Where's the fun in that? Do I even need skill to left-click?

[final sedge]

🎻

[zinc hill]

anyone recommend any nergal builds?

[rugged moon]

Game offers a great path for finishing prophecies in the chaos trials. While didnt win on first night my friend did win on 7 *before eris stopped being a jerk too. Just like first game the game also offers an increasing challenge to counterwct increasing power in fear

[final sedge]

Also most of the fun in hades 1 was climbing the heat ladder for every aspect and playing with all the builds at max mirror and max keepsakes.

[rugged moon]

Agree sabat

Or doing any% speed runs

[rugged moon]

I enjoyed hera attack , heph special

[jade plaza]

The Punishment Pact was fine, but I don't remember it making the game more difficult in any way other than taking away your abilities and boosting damage and health to enemies (except in extreme measures, that was awesome).

[echo briar]

Apollo attack and you can do anything else you want lol it’s very fun once you get the area and damage boost it clears everything. Personally I recommend glamor gain and hestia or demeter cast to trigger origination

[rugged moon]

It had increasing health of enemies? Adding abilities to enemies. Adding timer,

[zinc hill]

ah thanks

[rugged moon]

Overshield for enmies too

90% of fear and pact is the same

[echo briar]

Just did this on my last run (fear 24 surface) it was a breeze and I never even pressed the special button or used any omegas xD

[jade plaza]

How timer is good? I remember when Far Cry 4 had a DLC with a timer, everyone was s55tting on it.

[final sedge]

My go to heats are em4, benefits package, middle management, and tight deadline.

[vital yarrow]

personal liability removed your iframe after getting hit too

[final sedge]

Anyways, that’s hades 1. Back to hades 2, of which I’m still learning because I didn’t play early access

[elfin forge]

just play fast and timer doesn't matter
timer 2 is really comfy

[final sedge]

I never played Hell mode.

[jade plaza]

but where is the challenge??

[rugged moon]

Have you beaten 62 fear yet? Or even like 24

[jade plaza]

Im not in hades II endgame yet

[lusty heron]

@jade plazajust play a different game its fine to not like something

[rugged moon]

so you arent st challenging part youre at story part

[lusty heron]

maybe youll get back to it later

[elfin forge]

well if you play too safe, too passive, and don't buildcraft well enough, you will lose to timer
Some people play the game with like, 1 hour runs
Some people play the game with 15 minute runs
They're very different

[jade plaza]

I definitely will after I get my refund tho

[elfin forge]

why are you here lol

[lusty heron]

to farm rage

[elfin forge]

oh well

[lusty heron]

the usual

[rugged moon]

I immedietely turned on higher then needed fear because the game was too easy for me on a fresh save. if you want challenge make it challenging

[elfin forge]

anyone with any actual questions

honestly I think Rivals 4 is harder than nonrivals 32fear

[rugged moon]

Rivals is oof

[elfin forge]

definitely goes to show that not all fear is equal lol

[rugged moon]

I am currently at just frenzy 2 to re get use to the fast speed and i dipped my toe in rivals one and

[elfin forge]

if you earn your 3 statues with maxed out rivals and frenzy, hats off to you

[rugged moon]

Love the heph changes. Heph special feels so much better then it use to be

[hollow dove]

Are there any resources that recommend gods for each aspect?

[rugged moon]

It depends

In general its basicly the same for everything at leasy it use to be

With a few exceptions its “anything percent” for big hitters “anything set damage” for tiny ones

Hera, dem, hestia still feeling like juat the strongest three for main boons

[elfin forge]

@glad belfry oh right, Crit (from artemis/raki/Thanatos) and the 2x damage from Ares is handled seperately

it's a true x3 for crit and x2 for ares

[glad belfry]

Sorry I realized now that it's is Google calculator that is twitching lmao

[elfin forge]

lmao

[glad belfry]

So apparently 400% + 400% is 20

400% + (400%) is 8

WHO WOULD I KNOW THAT

[elfin forge]

idk what's going on but sure

[glad belfry]

I was checking to make sure because sometimes with this build I do at least 15 to 25% of the boss health

But sometimes I just do 1k damage omg that trash

[elfin forge]

let's see

[civic ocean]

Rivals 4 frenzy 2 is harder than nonrivals 32 frenzy 2 I think

[elfin forge]

oattack = base 120 power
base 100%
aphro +230%
weedkiller +120%
hammer +400%

1020 damage

[elfin forge]

yeah this is correct

[civic ocean]

Yes my brain

There are some pretty simple heuristics you can use for gods on all aspects

[hollow dove]

Well go on then @civic ocean 's brain

[civic ocean]

Zeus - good on basically everything cannot go wrong

Poseidon, Hestia - good on weapons that hit fast

Hera, Apollo, Aphrodite - good on weapons with high Power attacks

Hephastus, Ares, Demeter - these are better used on whatever of the attack/special you are not using because you mostly want their on hit effect

There are some exceptions like you can make heph or ares work on your primary with investment - anything can work if you build around it - but that’s a general heuristic for the gods and their attack/special boons

[elfin forge]

If you want player data and to overwhelm yourself, this website has what people used for each aspect at high fear in the last couple months
https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/EALadder

[civic ocean]

Oh hey my 62 is up thats cool

[elfin forge]

I wonder if I can upload my 20 fear clears for the story lmao

[bronze flax]

Is it just me or Lucid Gain is just.... Incredibly good now?

[lusty heron]

yep

like it alot

[rugged moon]

Lucid gain was always one of the better ones

[shadow plinth]

does evil eye keepsake also affect heracles?

[indigo viper]

Genuinely I can't find how new keepsakes might be useful at normal runs.

[elfin forge]

if he kills you

[civic ocean]

Red is working on a way to run a full 30 grasp while remaining at ||fate's whim||

But I think generally speaking ||the idea is to play Judgement runs with them||

[spiral wadi]

the new keepsakes seem to be more designed towards maintaining the roguelike nature of the game by actually just taking what ur given and they juice it up nicely

[civic ocean]

Extremely nicely

[rugged moon]

Does anyone know if the “oattack on pickup” skull is just bugged? It doesnt seem to count as spending mana for hex, doesnt trigger regen on posedien gain, and similar. While other sources of hammer mana usage do

Stuff like “hit twice for 5 mana” staff does count for hex

[civic ocean]

If you play without Vow of Debt on I would say that ||Jeweled Pom|| is on averageworth somewhere around 1200-1500 gold over the course of a run?

[civic ocean]

It's bugged but is unlikely to be fixed, if that makes sense?

[elfin forge]

it doesn't count as spending mana anymore
this is correct, it was a nerf with Unseen update

[rugged moon]

Thats… sad

[civic ocean]

It's still super duper strong at least

[spiral wadi]

which is funny cuz other mana consuming hammers do

[elfin forge]

yeah it's just the singular exception

[rugged moon]

Yea thts why i was so confused red

Also of mote its extra weird

[spiral wadi]

so they gut hexes on medea which is ironic cuz u don't want to use hexes anyway just turn brain off and spam :)

[rugged moon]

It triggers posediens gain but you get no mana back

[elfin forge]

"· Possessed Array (Skull): losing Magick from retrieving Shells no longer charges your Hex"
tragic

[rugged moon]

(Gosh pos gain is so bad it really didnt need to be worse)

[elfin forge]

poseidon gain is decent if you don't want to think much about your mana

[civic ocean]

there will be no flood gain slander in this channel

[spiral wadi]

sidon gain is really good, when it's ready to be active or while it's active, u can spam as much magick as u want

[rugged moon]

xD

[spiral wadi]

even when u don't have enough, it'll still activate omegas

[rugged moon]

I have always hated it

Fair

[spiral wadi]

it's like timed born gain

[civic ocean]

It also is quite something with Seismic Servo

[spiral wadi]

tho 8sec window does kinda suck ngl

[rugged moon]

It was decent in my nergal run. Just like born gain so much more cause it doesnt interupt flow

The 8 second messes with my flow a lot

[spiral wadi]

it's why flood gain is more oriented around low magick spam builds like special only mel flames, except they gutted that so now specials are -20% effective from unseen which is ludicrously bad

[elfin forge]

I just find flood gain confusing lol

[bronze flax]

I haven't used Flood Gain tbh... I feel I need an Heroic and Poms to not interrupt my flow

[elfin forge]

I wonder if this nerf is more targeted at supay lmao

[spiral wadi]

then why didn't they put it on supay only

let me enjoy my mel flames in peace

[elfin forge]

cuz they didn't want to look like they were doubletapping supay

[bronze flax]

Supay can't drop dead (good for it) (I'm a Supay stan account) (Sorry, it's that funny)

[spiral wadi]

zz isn't supay ass anyway

it's just medea but without the atk spec spam

[bronze flax]

That's... Not even a good comparison, what?

[spiral wadi]

ass as in worse medea

[bronze flax]

I don't think they're comparable at all tbh

[spiral wadi]

hm, prob not lol

ig more in the sense of brain off aspects

[last cape]

I am loving the ||jeweled pom||

[bronze flax]

If something I feel hyper aware with Medea, but that's because my controls decide to fail when I use it and somehow wants to keep moving down when I use the Special

I am moving my stick to the left, what do you mean you want to move down with the Special, Mel?!

[last cape]

also hi cristian lol

[civic ocean]

they want to challenge u to succeed

[last cape]

wait this nerf also affected supay? Omg why does sgg hate the torches so much lol. I mean I do too but Supay is an exception 😭

[bronze flax]

And I swear my control input issues only happen with Medea, not sure what the heck is happening there lol

[spiral wadi]

the only way i won surface 62 was getting air quality sprint gust cast gust static shock

mel flame specials were already ass

[civic ocean]

Well now you can win with +4 Blitz +4 smolder ring +4 Pyro Technique rarified to heroic Thermal Dynamics

[spiral wadi]

damn ur right i should be ignoring the aspect further

[civic ocean]

it is the way

[spiral wadi]

10% crits are so bad at high fear lolol

[civic ocean]

There's definitely a build out there where its like

[fresh pivot]

Do any of the Ares basics work well with Circe?

[civic ocean]

Huntress Extra Dose Grievous Blow Raki Lethal snare and the attack speed buffs

with like static shock

[bronze flax]

Uhh I tried to use Aspect of Pan yesterday and... Yeah, I don't feel great with it, how do you even use it? lol

[spiral wadi]

i like cast ares with a ton of duos to juice it up

[indigo viper]

I'm actually really like pos gain.
Especially when I use heavy mana omega like Moros' with red lines and Ares one.
With right rarity and some poms you have mana without side effects like Hera gain

[spiral wadi]

lol tru

[last cape]

It's one of those weapons where you want to stick to picking up the same boon at the start of every run, that being flame flourish or wave flourish

[spiral wadi]

i wish artemis was more frequent on surface tho

[civic ocean]

all of the non-hidden aspect blades can sort of be played very flexibly - pan the specials home in on enemies in the cast, but it's sort of a bait because the animation of Pan's O-Special is terrible, like worse than Chiron in Hades 1 by a lot

[elfin forge]

I thought they adjusted it but nope, still haven't seen her yet

[spiral wadi]

ye, unfortunate

[elfin forge]

ospecial is so freaking slow, man

[spiral wadi]

artemis should be summit npc...

[last cape]

Getting trick knives helps a lot but then it's barely different from a mel dagger build lol

[civic ocean]

They did adjust her! From 1 in 12 to 2 in 13

[civic ocean]

Pan is notably crazy with TK because of the homing

[bronze flax]

I guess Channel speed boost would be appreciated, but if you don't get them, how do you use it then? Use special without the Omega?

[spiral wadi]

number go up

[civic ocean]

It is almost doubled yeah from around 8% to around 15%

[spiral wadi]

they still didn't fix the bug where when u swap weapons the sorceress arcana doesn't correctly apply

[elfin forge]

is heracles like 11/13

[last cape]

The homing does help a boomerang and I'm always surprised by how much damage the dagger specials do. but if I open my first hammer and see 3 attack hammers I'm pretty tempted to reset the run lmao. Yeah channel speed boosts make it a lot easier, and i think if ur doing o specials a lot of the time you have to know to do partial charges as well. They nerfed it in EA to make it so that if you dash out of the o special, you don't throw any additional knives, so you don't want to charge higher than you have to

[spiral wadi]

yea standing still is very fun in high fear (homing projectiles homing projectiles homing proj)

like i swear i get rooms where i get punished for tapping atk on axe cuz there's 3 armored hippos and 3 armored caskets all desynced

[vale musk]

does anyone have any tips for the promethus vow of rivals fight? I have tried so many builds and am usually doing well and have a really strong build but I am so hard stuck every time with those two

[spiral wadi]

it's prob that heracles can spawn in god rooms but artemis can't

so artemis inherently can only show up in uhh 1 or 2 ephyra rooms

so heracles appears more often cuz he gets more frequent rolls and can show up on olympus too

[surreal hazel]

Hitch them both and try to aoe them

[spiral wadi]

any pain points in particular

like specifics of the fight that r getting u

[vale musk]

i try to focus heracles but just take so many random hits that by the time he is dead I just get finished off by promethus

[vale musk]

do you have any aspects you prefer with hitch vs them?

[spiral wadi]

ah yea u want to be paying attention to both as much as possible, usually when the other goes away is when they'll do some weird projectile stuff while the other is up close to you, they basically trade the aggressive and passive roles

like heracles will try to run off screen and that's when u know he's about to lob a wave at u, so keep him on screen

[surreal hazel]

Not really. Probably best to keep on top of which of the two is in attack mode and who is on support

Yes, they tag team on that fight

[spiral wadi]

or prometheus will run away and i think is when he does wave kicks, ground wave, etc

also i personally prioritize dealing with prometheus first because then heracles won't start doing freaky things in p2

aetos will show up if u beat prom first but he's mega easy to dodge and not a threat, just run away

[cloud night]

quick question about keepsakes like the silver wheel, do the bonuses stay after you switch them out mid-run?

[spiral wadi]

yea silver wheel lasts for the rest of the run

would be nice if they added "for the rest of the run" to keepsakes that last

[cloud night]

ooh, is that then, the same for medea's keepsake? (bonus omega damage after 250 damage taken)

[spiral wadi]

uhh i think that one is for only one region

some keepsakes last, others don't, it's very ambiguous

[civic ocean]

Most keepsakes do not, some do. I believe the ones that do are

||the three 1.0 keepsakes||
Discordant Bell
Silver Wheel
Technically Gold Purse?
Some of Moon Beam IIRC
Fig Leaf
Experimental Hammer
The bonus from Transcendent Embryo

[spiral wadi]

imagine if gold purse put u in negative debt

moon beam gets eaten if u miss the room, but keeps the +5 for later yea

[viscid crane]

I've been struggling like crazy to clear Chronos, when it finally dawned on me that he didn't fear Melinoë, what he feared was air superiority.

[tame spindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1317345030519656489/1421931251761152010/image.png?ex=68dad42c&is=68d982ac&hm=1736d46c726060565ac2615616751065bb99e209d46ef17157424e7a41b8117b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1595&height=898 maybe the dumbest build ive ever played

i feel like rivals cerberus with the area denial

u can just make everything explode all the time and not even have to look at the enemies

[viscid crane]

Black coat + flame flourish+ shimmering rockets turns you into an actual F16 and just trivializes the game

[snow breach]

Guys what is the radius on "close up" for Aphrodite's Attack % boost boon?

Is it super tight? Is Staff too long-range for it? Or Axe on the big swipe?

[spiral wadi]

axe omega attack i think

[snow breach]

Is too big you mean?

[spiral wadi]

iirc just slightly less than axe omega attack is the nearby radius

[snow breach]

Okay thanks that's a good metric

Okay I just got it first boon and tested. With staff with no upgrades, the absolute max range of the staff is too far away

But even a couple pixels closer is close enough

So it's about the size of the staff attack

So pretty tight

[shadow plinth]

how much mana do legendary boons cost with hubris?

[elfin forge]

12/24

[shadow plinth]

does it affect chaos

[elfin forge]

3 mana per tier, 6 if you have hubris 2

[elfin forge]

nah

[sudden belfry]

tips for not getting my ass kicked by the mt olympus enemies? i feel so clumsy against them

[final sedge]

Is Hera gain still good. I see people thought it was busted a while ago

[spiral wadi]

ye

[short hare]

how do people play nergal on frenzy 2

[elfin forge]

psychic whirlwind

other than that idk

[fading dew]

Am I the only one thinking thanatos aspect is pretty good?

[short hare]

ye thats all i have for now

[elfin forge]

it just got massively buffed so yeah it's neat

[short hare]

no healian put it at A i think

[spiral wadi]

than is one of the stronger axes ye

i'm not trusting haelian tierlists ngl

[elfin forge]

lol yeah

[fading dew]

I only just unlocked it, and I like it plenty. I mean, 20% speed on top of its base dmg seem nice, imo

[shadow plinth]

does either double strike or killer current affect chain lightning/static shock?

[spiral wadi]

yea it's really good for rapid boons like sidon wave or scorch

[elfin forge]

wait poseidon thanatos?
I wonder if that works

[spiral wadi]

yea i did sidon mel axe which is objectively worse and it does good

so i figure it'd be better on than

[fading dew]

Well, I guess it does, you may just need to dash more for precise hits?

[spiral wadi]

it's like uhh at least in unseen one atk swipe can cause multiple splashes in groups of enemies

[elfin forge]

is that just dash attack spam, attack, or oattack?

[spiral wadi]

is oatk increased by than aspect

[fading dew]

I think you wanna attack before you dash. Dash attack isn't part of the combo I think? 🤔

Idk, might just be timing wise

I don't really think about it, I just click, and I can manage to replace the last combo hit through dash

[spiral wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051942150025269309/1419486183129612392/Hades_II_-_2025-09-21_5-50-21_PM.mp4 this was me using splash on mel axe in unseen

[fading dew]

Cool

[elfin forge]

I wonder why that works
mel's thing is having insane power which doesn't scale with waves

[spiral wadi]

idk it just works LOL

[elfin forge]

maybe you're just too cracked

[spiral wadi]

nah i couldn't do 62f cuz every encounter hated me

[fading dew]

I haven't been able to beat Chronos yet. Only managed to beat first phase xP
Taking a minute to get through campaign.
Though, I'm sick, so I haven't been able to just grind it as much as I'd have liked to :p

[elfin forge]

maybe hera attack would be insanely good for mel axe, balance of aoe and %

[spiral wadi]

i want to do ||jeweled pom|| tho cuz i think mel axe is hyper flexible

i was mixing around w keepsakes and it's pretty solid it's just so bad when encounters decide to punish u for not having range

siege shredder my beloved

[fading dew]

Can somebody tell me what I get out of taking the frog with me?

[spiral wadi]

hp buff, can block projectiles like hecate's twilight curse

[fading dew]

Okay. Any other familiars that's better to use?

[spiral wadi]

toula is good for bonus dd and can actually do damage long as u wake her up

raki is really good for boosting ur overall dps

hecuba is good if ur struggling to keep up with magick and can sometimes stun enemies

[fading dew]

Hmm, none of the names seems familiar to me x)

[elfin forge]

frog = hp
cat = death defiance
bird = crit
dog = mana
ferret = block 3 attacks

[spiral wadi]

isn't it polecat

[last cape]

The extra max health frinos gives you is a lot, that's the main reason. Also, Unrivalled hecate's hex is really annoying to dodge, so being able to stand behind frinos helps a lot

[elfin forge]

yeah but no one knows what a polecat is

[spiral wadi]

tru

[elfin forge]

frinos is really nice for early game, yeah

[spiral wadi]

should have a squirrel costume fr

[fading dew]

I see

[spiral wadi]

i once had frinos hide behind a stone pillar so i couldn't block hecate's curse

that was not particularly fun

[elfin forge]

bro was eepy

[fading dew]

Imagine getting trolled by a frog

[spiral wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-follow-me-gif-4273618567139914195

[last cape]

Gale probably saves you more health on the surface route, ntm having a move speed and dodge passive so go gale for surface runs imo. You can take the double max health in ephyra if you're worried about health

[spiral wadi]

oh yea gale's way more meta on the surface esp when getting hit is less frequent and each individual hit is way more dmg

[last cape]

The dog and bird are good for magic and damage respectively but not getting survivability from your pet leaves you feeling really squishy on high fear, so you tend to prefer those pets with safer and easier to use weapons

toula exists so you can pick aspect of circe and rp as a pokemon trainer lol

[unkempt sleet]

just remember to rank up the death defiance ability on toula the cat, i was using toula for so long before i realized that my toula DD only gave me 10 health 😭

[fading dew]

Sounds like an awkward time at a boss

[stoic basin]

Can someone explain what the pictures of the characters in the upper right corner mean? I have these pictures only on some of them - not all. Any idea why that is ?

[unkempt sleet]

when you forge a bond (get all their hearts) with a character you get a fun chibi image

it’s just cosmetic, but it’s fun

[stoic basin]

Ah I get it now - also thank you for understanding what I meant even though I stupidly forgot to mention it's about the keepsakes 😅 Highly appreciated!

[gritty hound]

Am i missing something? Im fairly new. I heard people praise aspect of medea a lot. Picked it up. Saw some people doing the attack special loop really smoothly. It feels very clunky to me. (Im on kbm). Any tips or anything im missing?

[elfin forge]

you'll need to keep your mouse on target, you will go through the enemy when doing the combo

do 1 attack, then do 1 special. Do this as fast as possible while going back and forth through your enemy

Large enemies, like typhon, or enemies close to a wall, are especially good because you can just slam into the wall over and over to explode on them

[worldly vector]

Just got the coat, someone explain me how to play it and what boons to go for

[cloud night]

Anyone knows if critical chance for specials apply to omega specials? It should, but it doesn't seem to

[elfin forge]

special from afar, or attack + special at the same time up close
it's a fast hitting weapon, so gods like hestia, poseidon, and zeus will help
omega attack is kinda gimmicky
omega special is ok but slow

[gritty hound]

Ah okay thank you <3

[hollow tendon]

what’re the requirements for the sister blades hidden aspect? I already have one of the aspects max level but it’s my 100th run and Artemis hasn’t told me the waking phrase for them lol

I feel like im missing something

[elfin forge]

non mel aspect level 5
artemis has to be seen during a run

[worldly vector]

Like click both attack and special together?

[hollow tendon]

ya I have Artemis level 5

I guess I just keep grinding Artemis meetings then

[elfin forge]

just like mash them at the same time, yeah

[elfin forge]

do you have pan unlocked

[hollow tendon]

yeah

but not level 5

[elfin forge]

talk to the pool, see if you have another hidden aspect rn

[worldly vector]

Any arcana cards that synergize and i should prioritize?

[elfin forge]

idk I just use the normal setup
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349278289042346008/1390093577685700658/Screenshot_2025-07-02_at_3.15.27_PM.png?ex=68da5c47&is=68d90ac7&hm=0567316fa5c0aff18b6ac068d29b7e1f025e2033a37fb425bb1943391a4fafa9&

[worldly vector]

Alr ty

[hollow tendon]

that might be it, how do I check and how do i fulfill it?

[elfin forge]

the center pool in training grounds, if mel has a hidden phrase built up, she'll unlock a hidden
only then can you obtain another

also just check to see if you don't already have it lol

[worldly vector]

I don't have 30 grasp yet, got 25, what setup would u recommend

[elfin forge]

take away boatman or origination, it'll be fine

[hollow tendon]

yeah I don’t have any hidden aspects from what I see

[split igloo]

depends on your build, a lot of arcana are omega move specific, yet the strongest build doesnt use any omega moves

[elfin forge]

ok then yeah just keep throwing yourself at artemis then, rip

just do erebus over and over again, die at hecate if she didn't show up

[ionic quest]

Just beat cerberus without getting hit lets GOOOOOOO

[left echo]

||looking for some tips on the vow of rivals for both second bosses. I can get pretty far on both fights but cant beat them||

[tame spindle]

during scylla kill all the tentacles one by one and then the drummer and then the guitarist and then get scylla

for eris u shld be able to just sit behind her and avoid the beam

eris i dont think is actually too much more difficult than normal eris and lowkey i think if u play her a bit more and get more used to her attacks her rivals form can be a bit more consistent than her normal

[worn bone]

I feel like the night arcana would be very good with aspect of supay, is that so?

[elfin forge]

rivals eris damage got hella buffed in 1.0

it revealed how bad I really am at the fight lol

[left echo]

Any aspects you would recommend for both fights?

[spiral wadi]

ye rivals eris currently is mega punishing but her attacks are kinda free

i am the minority tho

[lapis lantern]

a lot of tentcales have a safeish spot were u can hit them and ez dodge the sweep, then u can fly betwene tentcales and drummer

[tame spindle]

well i only played 1.0 today for the first time since like last patch dropped and i didnt notice it 😭 i did a rivals run on both regions

[gray imp]

the normal set up doesn’t include death defiances? also I assume this is max grasp?

[elfin forge]

she got like a 2x or 4x damage buff on her lasers I think

[tame spindle]

morrigan for eris, and i found charon kinda free for all of underworld

[spiral wadi]

u can swap either or

[elfin forge]

you can do strength or death
I play low fear so strength works best for me

[tame spindle]

maybe i just dont remember how much she did before

i only had rivals turned on tho

[spiral wadi]

o wait that's insane actually

so x2 at base that becomes x4 in max pain

[worn bone]

is night arcana good with supay?

[elfin forge]

nonono I threw those numbers off the top of my head do not take them as gospel

[left echo]

Havent messed with charon much ill try that out for my next run there thanks!

[lapis lantern]

her lazers are pretty ez to dodge the move they do tho. I allways take the most damage from the big bomb drop when she is nearly dead

[spiral wadi]

too late suace u are now influencer level

[tame spindle]

its such a stupid weapon LMFAO

[elfin forge]

it just feels like they were papercuts(5-10 damage) before and now chunk (20-30)

[spiral wadi]

tru

oh also frinos can block eris lasers

[elfin forge]

ribbit

[spiral wadi]

not exactly stable but it works

[tame spindle]

how does aspect of hel work

[elfin forge]

omega special gives you full machinegun mode for a few seconds

[tame spindle]

im up to eris on it and i lowkey have just been spamming buttons and hoping it works

what are u meant to put on it

[spiral wadi]

probably blitz

then u can do like sidon splash or hestia scorch on atk

[tame spindle]

blitz makes sense

[worn bone]

is night arcana good with supay?

[tame spindle]

which aspect is supay

[worn bone]

Hidden aspect for flames

the one that shoots automatically

[tame spindle]

ah i dont touch torches

[spiral wadi]

from what i recall omegas aren't really used on supay

[civic ocean]

Just the first like 2 rooms

But you can try it with night ig

[worn bone]

It buffs dashes, but idk. I use the omegas in between rooms

[spiral wadi]

wait it does what now

i mean sprints aren't counted as omegas

so they don't benefit from night at all

[worn bone]

The omega attack causes the balls to fire stronger projectiles for a bit, and the omega special makes the balls spin faster and on a wider range

[civic ocean]

Yeah the omegas are okay they are just costly and supay mostly just makes use of freeze and on hit effects

And a good rush

[worn bone]

I don't really got anything else to spend the last 2 points

Huntress I guess?

[civic ocean]

Should take all of the first two columns, then origination centaur lovers, I think?

Maybe thats 31 and you should drop sorc

Idr

[worn bone]

I'm running first collumn, skipping death on the 2nd, taking origination and strength

then I end with 2 spare points

[civic ocean]

Do you have 30 grasp

[worn bone]

Yes

[civic ocean]

If so you can drop wayward for lovers or artificer ig

Most supay players would drop sorc for it but if you want to use omegas you can run night

[worn bone]

I like wayward a lot tho, though I don't really run scars too much

[civic ocean]

Supay is usually played manaless so no need for sorceress

But you will lose divinity that way

So tough balance this is often why people play Death over Strength for the middle row

[worn bone]

I like strength for the damage

[civic ocean]

Yes one must find their own way ofc

[elfin forge]

No you must abide by the law that is the meta
There is only one way
Greg's way

[worn bone]

For me, if you're running scars 3, death is better, otherwise, give me D E M E G

[spiral wadi]

gregory edgeworth from ace attorney

[worn bone]

gregory edgeworth from ace attorney

[alpine sandal]

I swear every time heracles shows up I end up taking unnecessary damage in that encounter

he's just creating visual noise that gets in a way

[civic ocean]

He stuns you if you get too close

[worn bone]

I just try to ignore him as much as possible

Fighting him AND prometheus below 50% HP feels like hell

[civic ocean]

Remeber you don’t actually lose anything if he kills more than you so just chill

[worn bone]

Oh, you mean that one

[elfin forge]

just kill the gold guys and let him do the work

[worn bone]

Still haven't really figured out what to run with Morrigan Daggers, any ideas?

Since the triad doesn't get buffed by anything

[tame spindle]

hestia attack

blitz on specials

[worn bone]

So on hit stuff, got it

[tame spindle]

so u go right up to someone, omega attack them and right click and it instantly does like 1k damage

[civic lake]

I'm in the trial of destiny and this zeus boon forced me to take zeus' attack over my ares attack
How come there's only one choice? There's still other zeus boons I'm missing

The next one gave me shared wealth too... but I don't even have double strike yet

[glass bone]

A few things;

1. There is a chance that you roll into all Sacrifice Boons (you could find a roll with say, replacement Attack, Cast, and Gain). If you have all other available boons from a god, the replacement boons may be left.
2. Shared Wealth pops up when there are no alternative boons available, including if a Duo or Legendary boon roll failed.

[civic lake]

But I had
Zeus boon:

1. Replacement attack, no other choices
   Zeus boon:
2. Shared Wealth, no other choices

But I have no double strike, how is that possible?

[civic ocean]

Are you using the vow of denial?

Or how does the trial of destiny work

[tame spindle]

trials are weird

[civic lake]

Ooooh, it had vow of denial, now that makes sense, thank you

[glass bone]

Yeah, Trial of Destiny has a whole bunch of boons and Vow of Denial

[thin cargo]

do anyone have any good/interesting all purpose deck?

[glass bone]

Arcana? Or do you mean something else?

[civic lake]

Well I somehow beat it while having all my Ares boons being unusable because I had 0 main Ares boons after being forced to swap out my attack

[tame spindle]

its \vow of denial then

[cloud night]

What do y'all think about Aspect of Selen for the black coat?

[civic lake]

https://i.imgur.com/fm3tQnd.png
Zeus so strong you don't need all the other Ares boons or the Duo I got

[glass bone]

It works… personally, I’m not a fan of it over mostly all other coats (including Hidden Aspect Coat; my preferred Coat is Aspect of Nyx), but if you are using it for 50 and below, you are fine, and it works well.

I will say, Selene does require a lot of setup to get going, but its peak is really good.

[drowsy shore]

Does Arc Flash do anything for me if I’m not using Omegas?

[cerulean panther]

I don't think so.

[glass bone]

Yes, with a large asterisk. The only use for Arc Flash outside of Omegas is for the Infusions involving Air

[mossy summit]

am i supposed to use than axe's 3rd strike? it's so slow. is there way to avoid it ? dashing seems to not break the attack chain unless i wait a bit

[faint idol]

Does anyone have a good build for the hidden axe aspect?

[glass bone]

Yeah, it is really slow, and for the most part, I’d say it probably isn’t worth it. I know it’s not completely comforting, but Than Axe did get buffed majorly at 1.0, to be so much faster.

[tame spindle]

u can right click to cancel the 3rd strike midway

[glass bone]

Take Demeter or Hera Attack, and grab Tough Gain. Then take stuff like Brave Face, Iron Core, Psychic Whirlwind, or Self Healing.

[civic ocean]

Does arc flash not make blitz deal more damage normally

[mossy summit]

my right click is my dash sooo uhh...that doesnt help. what does right click even do by default

[glass bone]

Wiki says No, but I’ll double check in game

[civic ocean]

Psychic whirlwind makes it op otherwise just look for stuff that makes the spin good and work on that

[faint idol]

Spin is the attack omega right?

[civic ocean]

Yes

[faint idol]

Alright thanks so much

[glass bone]

Yeah, so Arc Flash does nothing without Omegas

[tame spindle]

special attack

[civic ocean]

https://youtu.be/YaojE8IVlr0?si=fsh4FDdFUGEV3HHm here is a 62 fear early access clear that explains a lot of stuff but it should help with nergal in general yeah it is a close to ideal build

[lapis lantern]

watched this earlier, nice to see xroads getting new vids 🙂

also really nice to see a commentary explaining choices etc

[civic ocean]

Oh that might be the circe one I need better thumbnails

They kinda the same lmao

[mossy summit]

gotcha

[glass bone]

I mean content creators do sometimes have samey thumbnails.

It’s a Brand to have some iconic image, so to speak

[civic ocean]

Its kind of a stretch to call me a content creator its like technically true but lol

[glass bone]

It is true. You create content. Probably better content than mine cause I haven’t wanted to use my voice yet.

[lapis lantern]

well i watched and enjoyed ur content 🙂

[glass bone]

Or livestream for that matter, which you also do

[lapis lantern]

so now ur stuck

[worn bone]

It feels like Sweeping Ambush (Omega Attacks with dagger do 400% more damage in a wider area, but uses +20 Magick) isn't working with morrigan

[glass bone]

How much damage does it do with Sweeping Ambush for you?

[cerulean panther]

I think the wider range doesn't work/is bugged.

[worn bone]

No clue about damage, but yeah. The wider range isn't working

[glass bone]

Oh. I see

[alpine sandal]

I think aspect of momos is my favorite so far. I've still yet to try a few others, but momos just makes me feel like I'm actually using an entire moveset. And build variety is very good, you can make anything work

[dreamy inlet]

is aspect of pan any good?

[cerulean panther]

Yes.

[glass bone]

^ See this from a few hours ago

[cerulean panther]

Kinda requires a specific Hammer, though.

[dreamy inlet]

which gods would be best for pan?

[bronze pine]

Interesting start, got the healing hex and the next selene buff gave me 5 gold buffs. So I get 75 gold per hex use. I'm at the 2nd area

[glass bone]

Poseidon for Splash Special if you want (idk if it’s still strong), or you could do Blasts (Heph, Hestia, Apollo), or Trick Knives spam (Hera Special)

[dreamy inlet]

mkay ill figure it out, thanks for the tip

for some reason i figured maybe single target would go through the roof with hestia with 10 knives insta stacking scorch

[civic ocean]

Hestia works yeah

[exotic haven]

Does anyone have any advice for typhoon with the knives

I have a lot of trouble with the chin slam

[elfin forge]

dash straight down when he's about to do it
your iframes will shield you

[exotic haven]

I have the Apollo dash rn but he still hits me so I’m annoyed

I’ll try to dash even faster

[worn bone]

Does blackened fleece's effect stay after you swap it out

[elfin forge]

he basically always does it every other attack, when you're close to him

(phase 1 and 2)

[exotic haven]

Oh you have to go straight straight down

I was going sideways a bit

[elfin forge]

you can probably side dodge but I think down is safer

[exotic haven]

Yeha the side dodged towards to other way he kept getting me

[elfin forge]

basically just train yourself to know the timing and always trigger it as much as possible

[civic lake]

I just dash upwards to stay melee range and use the iframes

[exotic haven]

Nvm he got me

With the chin slam 💔

Well it was the chin slam and tail whip combo

[civic lake]

Another tip is to look for the glowing red lights on either side of his chin, it tells you he's about to do it, they blink red

[lapis lantern]

down dodge is the best imo, its a littel delayed tho

its easy to dodge to early and get the hit anyways

[wanton leaf]

Hmm, I'm not sure what Arcana to prioritize upgrading first

[lapis lantern]

u can dodge the chin, let the bottom whip go then dodge the middle one, then if he does his lash u can do that while the top whips happen

[exotic haven]

The knives and coat are my only weapons I haven’t beaten him with yet

[alpine sandal]

so here's the question, if a hammer for example says your attacks are faster and have more power - will that apply to omega attack too?

or it needs to be explicitly worded to also affect omega

[tame spindle]

morrigan is rly good on the surface

[glass bone]

Attacks is all forms of an Attack move.

So Attack, Dash Attack, and OAttack

[exotic haven]

I was running it but I think I need a freeze or something to slow him down

[tame spindle]

demeter on cast is okay

[exotic haven]

I was using daze dash and it was good cuz he kept missing but not enough

[tame spindle]

i mean shes pretty good

[exotic haven]

Icy veneer too

[snow breach]

I have Hammer upgrade on Xinth that gives 25% chance to fire off special attack when you attack. The missiles that are coming out do not apply my special boon (hitch). Is this a known bug?
The similar hammer upgrade on knives that makes dash attack spawn 3 special attacks DOES apply special boon, so not consistent?

[echo briar]

What is everyone’s favorite builds for aspect of morrigan aspect of eos and aspect of selene? They’re my least used and I wanna experiment!

[tame spindle]

morrigan is hestia on attack and zeus on special, and u chain ur attack and omega attack into the same button input and then use ur special to hit the enemy twice so u keep chaining ur blood triads it does crazy dps

[echo briar]

Oh sounds sick! I’ve cleared with all three of those only once before so I got the combo down for morrigan at least, but I think I had Hera attack, Hestia sounds fun I’ll give it a shot thanks for the recc!

[tame spindle]

the scorch stacks so insanely fast lmfao \

u burst like 1k damage every omega attack and it also lets u tp so it clears bosses and rooms both rly well

[short hare]

in what situation do i want gale

[echo briar]

Awesome! Any ideas for the other two aspects?

[tame spindle]

i used to know a good selene build but i forgot it 😭 its been a while since ive played

[shadow plinth]

can blood triad crit?

[tame spindle]

no

[south copper]

Selene black coat has its god boon hex with Ares, so if I ever run Selene, I like to use his item, then hers, and see how the run goes for the other two

[uneven palm]

Morrigan: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-2-build-guide#aspect-of-the-morrigan-blades

Eos: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-2-build-guide#aspect-of-eos-flames

Selene: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-2-build-guide#aspect-of-selene-coat

[spiral wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051942150025269309/1421988816016773233/clip_1759098913835.mp4 i love random goddamn enemies not participating in battle

[viral yew]

Any recommendations for an arcana setup with rerolls and origination?

[elfin forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349278289042346008/1390093577685700658/Screenshot_2025-07-02_at_3.15.27_PM.png?ex=68da5c47&is=68d90ac7&hm=0567316fa5c0aff18b6ac068d29b7e1f025e2033a37fb425bb1943391a4fafa9&

[spiral wadi]

seems like ||jeweled pom|| is bugged to always give old grudge after reroll

[viral yew]

Perfect ty

I'll just have to cry without my lovers

[sudden inlet]

You can still use lovers you'd just have to modify it slightly.

[viral yew]

If i do use lovers i just get the duo boon bonus and really slow omegas so it'll depend on the build

[sterile stag]

what does everyone use as the aspect for the umbral flames? been using the default and it's like fun but wondering if i would enjoy them more with eos or moros

[elfin forge]

moros is pretty fun though I think the attack is a bit clunky

[tame spindle]

moros used to be the best </3

[jovial cove]

I am still a moros enjoyer

[viral yew]

Same here

[jovial cove]

the combo game is just too good

[tame spindle]

i mean i havent really interacted with moros a bunch since torches were changed

when they dropped i cleared up to 45

[jovial cove]

although now that I think about it I haven't been using night

[sterile stag]

i'll make it and mess around with skelly

[viral yew]

I know have 4 arcan builds to choose from the indecision will kill me

[sterile stag]

and see if i find it fun

[elfin forge]

basically use omega special, then fire attack while close to enemies

[jovial cove]

you don't want to be close per se, more like mid-range

basically put the enemy at spinny orb distance

[open olive]

Probably well known by now but moon allies are crazy, mine did 166,014 damage, love those guys

Melted Typhon in seconds

[sterile stag]

ok so

using the aspect of moros, it seems like it will finally force me to learn something i have stubbornly avoided and managed to brute force so far - spacing

[elfin forge]

lol

[sterile stag]

ok what kinda boons are good for moros sticks

like what gods so i know what keepsake to equip out the gate

[elfin forge]

uh apollo attack and zeus spec

[sterile stag]

nice nice nice

[soft quartz]

how do you guys know which specific boons are required for some duo boons to appear?

seems like the only thing you can do is check the wiki

[viral yew]

there is an ingame codex you unlock

[sterile stag]

after gifting an olympian 2 nectar (marked by a scroll inside of the heart icon in the journal) you can check offerings using triangle on a PS controller and it tells you what boons you still need to take for a prophecy, and also what boons you need to get a duo boon

[soft quartz]

ty

[exotic haven]

I can’t send images but I had an evil build I felt bad wasting it on zero heat

[elfin forge]

you can link images from other discords

[civic ocean]

wasn't happening to me

[spiral wadi]

it seems more like it doesn't reroll properly after the first reroll

like old icarus hammer bug

[civic ocean]

oooo good catch yeah just f10d that

[spiral wadi]

good cuz i'm on deck and i'm grinding axe 62f rn

[civic ocean]

I am having more fun now doing 62s for sure

[ionic glacier]

Question, does Proper Upbringing (hera infusion) also affect future boons or only the ones you have when you take it/first activate it?

[civic ocean]

affects future

[sterile stag]

ok. just finished a surface run with the moros sticks, apollo attack, ares special. uuuuummmmmm

pretty disgusting, actually? like i had a rare attack boon and no special for most of the run, base level, and i was still melting bosses

[viral yew]

Yeah moros is just very little effort for a lot of damage

[sterile stag]

will note though

bad spacing - horrendous DPS, like genuinely some of the worst ive seen
good spacing - well above average DPS
great spacing/spacing doesnt matter because giant hitbox - you are melinoe, goddess of blenders

[ionic quest]

Okay is it even possible to react to promethious attakcs? seems like his gimmic is you have to predict the attack or it hits you anyway

Like I cant even beat him with 300 hp and 4 DD

I can beat everyone else but not him

What am I missing about him?

Whats the secret?

[tame spindle]

u should see when theres two of them

[marsh flax]

what would be a good morigan build to push 32 fear and up

[ionic quest]

Okay cool but that doesnt help me if I cant beat one of him

[shadow plinth]

does dash also trigger sprint boon effects?

[tame spindle]

it really is just predict his attacks, tbf u can wait out a lot of his attacks but he will be kinda annoying until u get it

[ionic quest]

ugghhhhh

Its his stupid kick thing that keeps getting me, since it comes out WAAAAAAY earlier than his animation would suggest

so every time he does it (and he does it A LOT) I take 60 damage

[elfin forge]

in phase 2/3, he will always do 2 normal attacks and then an empowered, AOE attack I believe

[exotic haven]

I don’t like to stay too close to him

[ionic quest]

His AOEs are easy to avoid. his regualr attacks are impossible to avoid

[elfin forge]

so every 3 attacks, pay attention because there will be that followup(lingering flames, flame circle, the giant fire projectile)

[elfin forge]

idk I'm playing at frenzy 1 now so he feels appropriately slow and readable
I think they've adjusted his timings too

[ionic quest]

since when? I started playing yesterday

[exotic haven]

What’s frenzy 1

Oh the vow

[ionic quest]

Its just kinda crazy because I blew past every other boss on the path, except him

[elfin forge]

"· Prometheus: reduced ground-slam damage; reduced kick-wave travel speed, adjusted hitbox" -1.0 update

[echo briar]

Gang I have beaten both bosses more than 7 times but I still have never unlocked the incantation that let’s you reset seeds? Is there something I’m missing? (I’ve also cleared fear up to 24 for both surface and underworld)

[exotic haven]

Oh I thought he was easier cuz I stopped playing extreme measures

[ionic quest]

only one thats given me any kind of trouble. Honestly was aboout to say that the above ground path was objectivley easier than below

[elfin forge]

nah surface is signficantly harder

[ionic quest]

Only part that felt harder to me has been that one specific boss

everything else has felt much easier

[hazy forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230181039196995706/1422010856408875088/Hades_II_2025-09-28_20-02-23.mp4?ex=68db1e4f&is=68d9cccf&hm=48bae6d58e46f4997673149f90076275fb797c62411c74b385de10278e39db80&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1422011786533535774/image.png?ex=68db1f2d&is=68d9cdad&hm=9616b9065973123a9dcde77d1f1eeb05ccda9b6ea0c5cd783372ea7ecb98e7fa&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1422011901352738898/image.png?ex=68db1f48&is=68d9cdc8&hm=baead58ef23392d4b331c86fe4e5dbdae3c58ad3e1646e6269bc8d31ae9c844d&

Ding Dong Morrigan is easily my favorite build in the game right now

[elfin forge]

have you cleared surface yet?

[ionic quest]

No, Im stuck on promethious

but like I said, Hes the only boss I've lost to

[elfin forge]

ok well you'll be happy to know that he's the final boss of surface
definitely

[exotic haven]

Practice makes perfect

[elfin forge]

idk if you have it but there's a chaos trial for olympus, should let you quickly get to him and practice

[exotic haven]

You’ll be able to learn his patterns better after u fight him a few times

[viral yew]

100% yes

[elfin forge]

idk prometheus will come close to you, then wind up a slow melee attack. Dash directly away when he begins and you'll prob be fine

[ionic quest]

Something tells me that's not true

https://tenor.com/view/poul3-f-r3veil-p-gif-10988460833755738340

[exotic haven]

I like to make him aim his fire streak away from the center of the arena

[elfin forge]

it's kind of hard to gauge I think because if you are too close, you barely have any time to get out of the way
but if you stand too far away, you tend to make the firestreak bigger

[exotic haven]

For the memorization fire attack I designate the top-bottom as 1, 2 and 3 and then I have to say it out loud

[atomic sandal]

Wide Grin (send all skulls at once) affects aspect of medea? The 4 skulls explode when u do the special?

[elfin forge]

yup

[exotic haven]

Yeah it’s awesome

[elfin forge]

nah, it means you have to special twice in order to reload

it messes a bit with the rhythm, and is less damage overall I think

[round quartz]

Nexus rush being buffed from worst rush into best is really funny

[tulip barn]

I did a funny with it yesterday and got it to Heroic Level 58

It got over 1k damage

[elfin forge]

still feels janky to me

is it that you can only do the dash damage once until hitch wears off

[tulip barn]

yes

I think you also can't be near them with the dash on, cuz it refreshes maybe?

[round quartz]

It's slightly too strong but it's slightly balanced with that fact that it's very strong aoe but only has 1 instance of single target (until hitch wears off)

[tulip barn]

It doesn't matter all that much, tbh. In rooms, it's still doing more damage because of hitching other enemies, etc

[round quartz]

Yeah

[tulip barn]

and in single target, it's giving you a free*** curse

[round quartz]

It just one shots most waves just by running

In early game

[tulip barn]

especially, yeah

it's insane in erebus and ephyra

it's relevant for the remainder, but it does take a back seat unless you're a weirdo like me that hits over 2k damage on chronos with it because I could

I also just got Heroic Level 7 furnace blast and it's 46% HOLY

[elfin forge]

idk I was using it for my hitch application, I think I would've prefered hitch cast instead

[ionic glacier]

Does anyone know if the special characters can appear in the chaos trials? Artemis/Athena etc.

[elfin forge]

no

[sudden belfry]

taking aspect of pan for a spin, what boons are good for it again?

[elfin forge]

poseidon special, try to get trick knives hammer

[sudden belfry]

thx!

[ionic quest]

Nooooooo why does promethious have a phase 2!!

noooooooooo

HE DOESN'T

OOH MY GOD YES!!

[atomic sandal]

Last time I played supay was when it released and I played with hestia rush, what builds do u guys play now? I know it was nerfed a lot but it should still be fun

[elfin forge]

I don't focus on the rush part so much, instead on omega special

Ospecial Hestia, zeus or demeter or ares attack? maybe?
Dash could be zeus, hestia, or even hera, it's quite good now.

[atomic sandal]

omega? used to not press nothing at all

[elfin forge]

omega special has always been very cracked

[atomic sandal]

I'll try ares because I have yet to complete god send prophecy for it, even tho I try it 98% of the runs

[tame spindle]

thats so funny

[ionic quest]

Bro how much HP does that MFer have???

I was wailing on him for like 10 minutes

[alpine sandal]

typhon?

[ionic quest]

Yea

[elfin forge]

65k, he is double chronos

[alpine sandal]

doesn't feel like that much tbh, feels less than chronos

[ionic quest]

Chronos both bars?

[elfin forge]

yeah, combined

knucklebones absolutely chunks his hp because he has a single healthbar

[ionic quest]

Yea, that was a long fight

[elfin forge]

still, he's a stationary target that lets you absolutely slap him, should be a 2minute fight if your build is cooking

[alpine sandal]

typhon has massive windows for you to just go at him

his health bar feels way smaller than it is

[ionic quest]

Yea, but its the sections where theres a lot of AOE being thrown on screen that was getting me

[alpine sandal]

if you have ranged build you don't even need to worry about his chin strikes. He literally only does 2 moves if you stay the distance

[ionic quest]

I mean, usually I put cold on cast to just... freeze everyone. Its crazy good

[elfin forge]

playing melee is easier I think. Chin Slams are consistent to dodge, and his laser has a blind spot on his tongue

[ionic quest]

The lazer was pretty easy to dodge

[alpine sandal]

I suck at dodging his slaps, but I never get caught by lasers

[atomic sandal]

that's why I didnt play it but I like the idea of a easy mode weapon like that

[elfin forge]

yeah but it means it's time to fully stand still and just unload

[ionic quest]

What got me was the stupid balls hed throw, because I couldn't tell where the child ones would land

[atomic sandal]

and he doesnt reset blood triad like Eris

[elfin forge]

I think of Supay more of a management simulator
Keep up the omega special
Keep up your cast
dash around
Maybe omega attack as well

[elfin forge]

yeah, being close really helps for that, since they bounce off the back wall

the followup bombs almost never hit his face area

[ionic quest]

Pretty sure I was almost done with him tho

[elfin forge]

Zeus = 50% hp

[alpine sandal]

aspect of pan is one of my favs for him. Hestia on special, hidden knives, freeze cast, freezer burn. You'll just apply crazy stacks of burn, and then pop them with the cast for like 2k damage at a time

and you can stay far away, dodge the laser and some shots

[ionic quest]

Yea, I died about 2 mins after zeus

[elfin forge]

yeah that would be close then

after the second eggs phase, he's at 38% hp

[ionic quest]

Yea, I got to that part too

[heavy panther]

does inverted blaze work for daybreak?

[ionic quest]

But I had an unlucky moment where I missed the chin dodge, and got hit by that twice, as well as a random AOE thing, for a good 200 or so damage

[marsh flax]

is the hephaestus morigan build good for 32 fear or should i just do apo atack and a normal build

[tame spindle]

i've beaten rivals typhon like 3 times and i still struggle with his like balls that go all over the place even on his regular form

like where ru meant to stand

[marsh flax]

honestly just keep practicing, you kinda get used to his paterns

[tame spindle]

i dont want to keep practicing i have 300 hours 😭 i just wanna be enlightened

[steel sequoia]

i have questions because im stuck, do i need to play rivals to unlock the fates? ||ive managed to kill zagreus once, im yet to have the keepsake before chronos, im missing medea, heracles, athena and hecate progression only, i've done hestia and selene|| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684945888585842701/1421631307296936067/20250927195421_1.jpg?ex=68db0e54&is=68d9bcd4&hm=abe39aff5326c65d361d5d711a29b9bccd8e27974a71e23a7f996d7b10d44809&=&format=webp&width=1398&height=786

[marsh flax]

the fated list gives you hints how to do it

[steel sequoia]

i'm lost on that, i either need to play rivals or unlock the god boons with selene or something?

[marsh flax]

the wiki may be able to help but im not sure as im in the same prosses

[steel sequoia]

lmao i looked a guide and they said do what ive already done and proceed to the epilogue...

ive saw some ||moros shennanigans for pin on oceanus|| is that correct?

[spice coral]

anyone try the gambler build?
normal 30/30 arcana, take strength then go to the underworld
first region you do Circe, and pray for judgement
if you get Death, you can used up all three, then used athena to potentially get another set of refill
then go to the free room in Chronos and get 8% per death defiance used, so you get like 48% if you used all 6 DDs, then strength would be activated

[spiral wadi]

it's the new gambling age

[uneven python]

Can I look up my path of stars without a selene boon in front of me?

[thin cloud]

Any tips for aspect of hel?

[viral yew]

Wow, I didn't expect this, go for smth like pos or hestia

[thin cloud]

I'm trying to figure out a build

[thin cloud]

why pos

[viral yew]

hel hits pretty fast

[thin cloud]

what else for other gods?

[viral yew]

you could go zeus and do a chain lighting/froth build

[thin cloud]

True

Should zeus have like cast or magik?

[viral yew]

zeus cast definetly

pick up hestia/aphro/hera/apollo for mana regen

[thin cloud]

Should I take aphro for special?

[viral yew]

yep that'll work

[thin cloud]

I think I'll take apollo for regen

[viral yew]

yep just spam cast then

[swift obsidian]

How is Apollo’s magic regeneration boon after the changes?

[viral yew]

It's really good, one of the best now

[heavy panther]

you hope for echo as well to get another three DDs

[wanton leaf]

Question about Medea's Malice in Kind: is it 15% current health, or total health?

[uneven palm]

Current health. It’s real bad

[steel sequoia]

i feel like hel is much more stronger than all the rest, but maybe im just newb

[uneven palm]

In terms of skulls? It’s pretty strong but it’s hard to top Medea

[thin cloud]

I always forget whats good on aspect of moros

[forest hinge]

yall i started a fresh file for the 1.0 release, when does "Blessing of Eris" stop showing up??? I literally died to Chronos because I was taking an abitrary +45% dmg because I was "too good" I guess?

[uneven palm]

First 10 nights, then never again

[uneven palm]

• Percent attack, probably on-hit effects on special. Hera-Zeus is a good combo

[forest hinge]

early game daggers boons? fresh file: i've got aphro/zeus/hestia/dem keepsakes

[uneven palm]

Aphro attack or Zeus special are good starts for blades. But also you’re super early just roll with whatever imo

Since you probably can’t reroll

[supple dragon]

what pairs well with zeus's main attack/special boons? it seems like heavier slow hitting weapons pair better unlike in h1?

[uneven palm]

High-rarity blitz is basically never bad. It’s good on occasional use moves you weave in, or if you’re maining it it’s often really hard to beat

Best pairing is Hera as your fourth god that you don’t care about so you can sacrifice all her boons with Kings Ransom

[lusty fern]

Hi all! Just unlocked climbing up without dying automatically, any weps that are especially useful here?

[lean yoke]

is there a keepsake similar to the old spiked collar from the first game? that was the one i used most

[uneven palm]

No keepsakes quite like that, no. One familiar gives you a health boost tho

[uneven palm]

Anything that’s good in the underworld is good for the surface, and all weapons are viable. Use what you enjoy.

[thin cloud]

So what would I run to make as high damage of an attack as possible with axe of mel?

I was thinking of focusing around the aphro-demeter combo

[uneven palm]

Aphro attack, ares special, grievous blow from Ares, Lethal Snare from Artemis if she shows up

[spiral wadi]

how good is hearty appetite 🤔

[thin cloud]

But maybe something with ares would be good

[thin cloud]

What for the other 2?

[uneven palm]

It’s pretty bad it just adds a flat number to your strikes

[spiral wadi]

rough

[thin cloud]

isnt it %?

[uneven palm]

Whatever you want. It’s kinda hard to get exactly all 4 gods you want in a run. Better to focus on 1-2 you really want and the rest are gravy

[thin cloud]

Well yeah but I like to have options in mind to prioritize

[uneven palm]

It’s worded like any percentage boost but what it actually does is just add a flat number to your strikes.

[thin cloud]

Should I not be using god keepsakes each stage to fill out my god pool?

[uneven palm]

I don’t after the second region. Your pool is usually filled by then and there’s a lotta good late-run keepsakes.

[thin cloud]

Really? So it doesnt do an extra 10% damage to your attacks per 100 hp?

[uneven palm]

Nope. It adds 10 damage per strike per 100hp

[spiral wadi]

ah is it bugged

like just a flat 10 damage, not power

[uneven palm]

Yeah not power. It’s a late calculation addition

[thin cloud]

It literally says +10%

it must be bugged

[spiral wadi]

lol that's even worse than slow cooker and that's already ass

[uneven palm]

I know what it says. I’m telling you how it works.

Aw I like slow cooker. Fast-striking weapons can make a meal of it

[spiral wadi]

yea that's tru

i'm prob on my mel axe phase rn

slow cooker sounds fun on hel tho

idk i just feel like slow cooker's decent but i've already invested into other dps already

[thin cloud]

Man I should NOT have taken paid dues

[spiral wadi]

like it's funny cuz it's on hestia who doesn't benefit from power

and heph has % weapon dmg who doesn't benefit from that

[uneven palm]

Yeah, it’s a weird mix. I like going for Slow Cooker on blast builds or scorch builds since you tend to like those on fast-attacking weapons anyway, and those benefit from Slow Cooker + the global damage boosts you surely have for those builds anyway

[spiral wadi]

mm makes sense

[uneven palm]

So it’s like a side quest if Hestia isn’t coughing up Pyro or the Blast duos and Poms aren’t happening. Just take Fire boon and get a little stronger.

[thin cloud]

Thats who I should get on top of aphro/ares

[uneven palm]

I mean everyone’s got useful stuff. Zeus has a great cast, Poseidon has lots of damage add-ons and Hydraulic Might, Dem’s got Weed Killer, Apollo has Back Burner and Extra Dose, Hestia has a good cast and slow cooker, Heph has an infusion

[spiral wadi]

yeaa all the gods feel so good to play rn

this is kind of a nitpick but ||it feels bad that jeweled pom causes crazy weird future pom scaling where gusts can only be pommed for +1 dmg, or heph glow can only be pommed for +2% more, while other boons like pyro tech seem to still scale somewhat better||

ig poms have always been weird :p

[plain fossil]

Dont try and make sense of pom scaling, its always just sgg doing whatever tf they want lul

[deep fog]

Early poms were cracked

sad blitz noises

[elfin forge]

poms aren't that important anyways, just get 2 or 3 on the good stuff and you're good

[spiral wadi]

ye it's more in the context of the new keepsake making future poms way more wild and variable

[elfin forge]

I gotta get those new keepsakes sometime

[somber agate]

ok asking here since this is maybe better place, torches omega special circles farther away now right? last time i played was Warsong update

[spiral wadi]

it's possible they adjusted it ye, i never noticed tho

they reworked torches entirely from warsong to unseen

[elfin forge]

yeah I think so, that's new with Unseen or whenever

talk here if you want advice for boons and bosses and stuff, ask in discussion to... suffer?

[spiral wadi]

lol i've already decided to stay away from story discourse atp it feels like an echo chamber as much as i have my thoughts about it

[somber agate]

alright bc i used to run aphro attack on moros aspect but it doesn't look like it would be in close range anymore

[quartz plaza]

How much bigger does Apollo’s attack make an attack’s AoE? (Eg for Mel Axe)

[elfin forge]

I just got the ending today so it's interesting to stew on

[spiral wadi]

aphro spec on flames kinda intersects the nearby radius a little, kinda weird

[elfin forge]

it varies heavily

[somber agate]

yeah based on what i've seen ppl saying i am gonna have mixed feelings when i get there lmao

[elfin forge]

you probably are

basically you'll unlock the thing to beat typhon first which is underwhelming but sure, whatever.
Then you do chronos for credits, that's when it really hits the fan

[spiral wadi]

it feels like they nerfed apollo on mel axe atk

[elfin forge]

I can check the aoe values holup

axe is 20% aoe buff

[quartz plaza]

Thanks — where/how do you check?

Trying to decide between Apollo to aphro attack on Mel axe

[elfin forge]

the wiki's numbers should be accurate

[somber agate]

also idk when they changed lucid gain, but ... was that necessary??? i liked the gimmick of having to be standing in the cast for the mana return

[elfin forge]

I liked it too, but maybe it wasn't beginner friendly enough

plus it kind of had the issue that demeter has, standing still is a tall order in this game

[spiral wadi]

i feel like because the current game needs you to be moving around at a constant pace, making a cast and being forced to wait 3sec while inside it was kinda eh

[elfin forge]

like I often find I want to stand a bit outside of my cast, swinging into it

[unique locust]

Doing a Poseidon Special black coat build... Ripper Rockets or Shimmering Rockets?

[elfin forge]

goddamnit the wiki's numbers aren't accurate

[spiral wadi]

i like shimmering on anything, gives cracked room clears

[uneven palm]

Shimmering is the best by a lot yeah

[somber agate]

it's true that i wasn't rly using it outside of charon axe iirc
or if i had demeter cast (or maybe aphro cast with a short range weapon)

[elfin forge]

it's great on charon axe too! now you can detonate it from afar

[uneven palm]

Lucid Gain is just better now. Instead of like good on Charon and cope on everything else it’s kinda always useful, and super good on like Circe and Momus

[ionic quest]

Okay here we go, I've got a better build this time around, HOPEFULLY, Ill be able to kill Typhon

[elfin forge]

you also just didn't need full mana THAT often, I think

[wide glen]

What are people building with Melinoe staff?