h2-builds-and-combat

[hidden kindle]

So... Crystal Keepsake can activate Judgement in your run. That's a fun surprise.

[agile galleon]

Which is better use omega attack or base attack with the axe?

[bleak night]

Omega is the main build for people

[warm rover]

My current twin blade build gives me a big 600 damage aoe attack for the backstab move and because it costs 30 it easily charges the invincible moon ability that let's you spam attacks with no risk of taking damage...anxious to see how much stronger I can get before chronos

[glossy rivet]

whats a good boon combo for moros torches?

[simple compass]

Various builds seem to work but I'm pretty sure that for optimal dps the omega is the way to go. Standard attacks can work and give you more chance to hit and run though

[hidden kindle]

does Aphrodite still have the highest damage bonus among Gods?

[bleak night]

I personally really dislike the third strike of the Axe, so I've been practicing cancelling it without dashing https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238142681339662427/Axe_no_third_hit.mp4?ex=663e35ba&is=663ce43a&hm=96d5fe1e8bb5fddbcc2e93f11f2e94030eafd6926352a398d69a84bb55754484

[warm rover]

Yea hate the third strike of axe too

[fleet dagger]

So far as I've seen, yes.

[simple compass]

For the standard attack builds with the right hammers you can make a really fun build that I've seen do 1600+ damage in one hit

[hidden kindle]

awesome, thanks

[bleak night]

you can just cancel the animation for the slow third hit with a shield, then it restarts back to hit 1

[pearl estuary]

Should I take one Apollo on attack on one Aphrodite on special

[warm rover]

Yes it's easily cancelable but I wish I could just remove it and only do the first two swings lol

[bleak night]

should I drop some findings I found on Axe mechanics when I was practicing earlier ?

[still arrow]

when do i unlock hera?

[bleak night]

surface run

[still arrow]

ohh i thought its like demeter where u can unlock her by reaching atleast chronos boss battle

[pearl estuary]

Remember its in early access so it might get fixed

[still arrow]

is there a similar boon like cursed strike in the sequel?

[hidden kindle]

Blast to Vent is the closest

[agile galleon]

Is better start with the Apollo's boon or Aphrodite boon in the axe build?

[simple compass]

Seems like a stylistic choice. I like Apollo to have more range and hit everything reliably but Aphrodite is best for pure damage.

[tulip hedge]

aphrodite's is really great with the omega attack

[bleak night]

Apollo's an equally good choice for it

[weak flower]

does Life Affirmation only work with chamber rewards? I would like to know if it applies to the reward from Demeter's Plentiful Forage

Took it anyway, found out it does indeed only apply to chamber rewards. maybe the description could be edited to match that from Hades where it says "chamber reward" specifically?

[fathom flicker]

is there any sites or places that has all the currently available duo boons at the moment? I face tanked all the bosses until Chronos thanks to Apollo and Hestia’s duo

[glossy rivet]

are % boons good for moros torch or flat dmg?

apollo on special maybe?

[jaunty cloak]

My goodness, I had an extremely successful axe run last night where I picked up the hammer upgrade Hell Chopper (not sure the exact name) that adds an unbelieveable amount of damage to the basic attacks. I had aphro attack also.

[thin lantern]

Apollo is one of the best for the main attack because that increases the AOE when detonated. Basically, whatever is on the attack gets triggered in a big AOE when they're detonated

[glossy rivet]

huh ok, specials?

[jaunty cloak]

Depends imho

[warm island]

anyone knows if they will make an aspect of the staff thats focused on the normal attacks rather than the omega

[glossy rivet]

since it seems special also has bigger base dmg

[pearl estuary]

What’s a good beginner weapon

[thin lantern]

Hmm. Poseidon and Apollo also create huge special orbs...

[split igloo]

Omg Persephone kills mobs so fast I just got 100 coins from a /100 trove.

[thin lantern]

You can also use Zeus on the attack because detonating them will often just proc Blitz for a ton of damage

[jaunty cloak]

Daggers or the first weapon

[glossy rivet]

think i'll try apollo atk + pos special for moros torch

[lament kestrel]

the staff is definitely the best beginner weapon

[jaunty cloak]

I could see hitch being pretty decent too. Ballerina to tag everyone with hitch and then main attack / omega to damage everyone

[thin lantern]

Yeah that should be good. Hephaestus is nice if you have good CDR on it (rarity+poms). Can confirm Hera special is INSANE for mobbing.

[pearl estuary]

Ok for the daggers best build

[glossy rivet]

ok hera special is also an option!

[jaunty cloak]

For mel daggers, aphro attack for sure

[lament kestrel]

apollo dagger omega attack is goated

[jaunty cloak]

Special maybe heph? I dont really have strong opinions on special boons for daggers

[thin lantern]

Special Hephaestus is terrible for daggers. Get Poseidon or MAYBE Hestia

[round stag]

Hey can anyone explain the best way to use Hera boons? I was able to more or less figure out where to use the other gods but I'm still a little unsure about Hera

[bleak night]

thoughts? Been practicing animation cancelling on the Axe a bit https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238144125207842887/Axe_absorb_animation.mp4?ex=663e3713&is=663ce593&hm=fb8e37c7ffd449b2b9964d5fe6b316d30c0c8aebab9a84cbee123713821d7253

[jaunty cloak]

I apologize, sensei

[jaunty cloak]

Isnt the issue you cant animation cancel out of the massive windup finishers?

[glossy rivet]

say, how do i best use moros atk orbs though? wouldnt it be difficult to set them off if not in an enclosed space or firing at a wall?

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238142681339662427/Axe_no_third_hit.mp4?ex=663e35ba&is=663ce43a&hm=96d5fe1e8bb5fddbcc2e93f11f2e94030eafd6926352a398d69a84bb55754484

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhhh NICE. I was wondering about the special for cancelling last night but didnt bother testing it too deeply.

[bleak night]

the timing for it is really strict though, I still do the axe leap most of the time

[thin lantern]

keep your distance and spam it, then close in and special.

[jaunty cloak]

That hell chop axe hammer I was talking about above does crazy damage but each attack has a massive windup.

[bleak night]

you can bypass the windup for the first one by dashing

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238148385215615007/Attack_cancel_into_Dash.mp4?ex=663e3b0a&is=663ce98a&hm=ed03ebce61265dc64036cad69f5abcb390ffff0d5f9245ae79f1d35882c82e97

[jaunty cloak]

Yea I noticed that and it served me well until || Chronos || who spanked me at like 15% health

[bleak night]

This is mostly good for the downtime, yeah. Saves you a bit of time from having to do the first hit's windup into omega charge or having to waste your dash just to do a dash attack into the charge

[glossy rivet]

any hammer recs? would the hammer that makes the special fly straight help?

[jaunty cloak]

Has anyone bothered to test the Argent Skull aspects? I ran the Mel skulls last night and they felt like they had some potential EXCEPT when your shells end up halfway across the map

In general feels kind of bad when your flow gets killed constantly by that

[bleak night]

I don't like the Medea ones at all, and the Persephone ones basically take a while to get going, but at least the charge for Glory seems to stay for further rooms, allowing you to use it when needed

[thin lantern]

sure would, pretty sure

[glossy rivet]

alright thanks

[jaunty cloak]

For medea, When it says "your shells stay closer to you" does that just mean it's more of a melee build or do they boomerang back?

[bleak night]

wanna see rq ? I can stream how they work

[modern yacht]

Please

[bleak night]

oh, this place has no VCs

[earnest nacelle]

it stays on you and then explode

[jaunty cloak]

👀

That sounds awful lol

[thin lantern]

turns the charge into a nuke tho

[earnest nacelle]

if you use it and then special it will explode on contact

[ashen brook]

I just found out the sister blade aphrodite combo

[jaunty cloak]

Yea that is true. Prime and special charge to blow things up

Sorry not "prime" but you get what I mean

[modern yacht]

I don't think I can give up normal skull special

[earnest nacelle]

the special is the same

[jaunty cloak]

Yea I didnt think the move set changed

[earnest nacelle]

only your normal attack changes

[jaunty cloak]

That vanilla skull attack hits hard but feels so bad

[bleak night]

special is the same for Medea, Persephone's meanwhile is kinda a meme ride when you charge it up

[jaunty cloak]

Okay now I am interested haha

[bleak night]

Let me charge one up on some mobs somehow

[thin lantern]

dammit, 0 arcana sucks

[jaunty cloak]

Some of them arent too bad. The bottom left one does suck for sure haha.

Or are you saying runs with no arcana at all?

[thin lantern]

yeah, no arcana for the fates

[jaunty cloak]

So Luckier Tooth is 100% required

[thin lantern]

No, I'm just bad. But screw it. I'll just redo the Trial of Humility.

[split igloo]

And my second Chronos kill is Persephone again 💀

I still think Eris is much easier.

[dreamy inlet]

ok seriously though, how are you supposed to kill doggo with sickle and dagger?

the fight feels absolutely overtuned for close up melee

[bleak night]

I'm almost at Hecate and this thing is still only almost half lmao

[jaunty cloak]

He just has a massive health pool. If your dmg is light then get as many backstabs as you can then bail

[modern yacht]

Oh then I'm finna go crazy with medea skull

[summer seal]

So what Hex abilities are you all getting good use out of? I was a fan of the time freeze one until, well, it didn't work in an important fight

[jaunty cloak]

The impervious one isnt too bad for some breathing room but I dont love the move set. Beam is super inconsistent to me and is just asking to get smoked in boss fights.

Beam is inconsistent for more mobile bosses*. Pretty good for || Cerb ||

[modern yacht]

I like the impervious one and the health one

Also creature summon is really funny against chronos

[summer seal]

I tried the impervious one once and it just felt weird, maybe I was using it wrong

[zenith shell]

Health one is the best by far

[summer seal]

Just felt like I heavily nerfed my damage

[zenith shell]

Especially if you're lucky and get the perk that stacks your extra heals when you go to a fountain

[jaunty cloak]

There is a creature summon one?

[jaunty cloak]

Honestly this is how it felt to me too. Just felt like a mood killer.

[modern yacht]

It summons one of the enemies to fight for you

It's pretty funny

[bleak night]

@jaunty cloak Here you go, it took me this far to collect enough Glory to fill up the meter for this lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238155940449091677/Persephones_Wild_Ride.mp4?ex=663e4214&is=663cf094&hm=513d3c372276f674095d7ffd6ac5ec30ec6b0fc30761fc2006bfd16a691af1f7

[jaunty cloak]

Oh that reminds me, I picked up the legendary aphro boon that charms adds in my hell chop run last night. That was pretty funny for the || chronos || fight

[jaunty cloak]

Man this absolutely killed me lmao. That was hilarious

[modern yacht]

My God it's beautiful

I wonder if the hammer that makes special return to you is available for this weapon

[split igloo]

Okay. I take it back.
Aphrodite Specials + Persephone Skull Omega Special Repeats Twice.
That's all you need to delete anything lol.

Hera is far inferior to Aphrodite unfortunately here.

[mint cedar]

I have gained the ability to pause during the boss fight

[split igloo]

And I got both of those right at the start of the run... an Epic version of that Aphrodite boon 😱

[jaunty cloak]

Yea I can see that. Hera is great for melting massive amounts of mobs but less exciting in boss fights

[split igloo]

I just deleted Hecate.

[bleak night]

I'd like the Persephone skull a lot more if it didn't take so long to accrue all that Glory

[split igloo]

Glory is not what I take it for.

[bleak night]

it took me the entire Erebus area just to get enough

[mint cedar]

do unlock the statue do i have to clear 16 heat on the surface in the next run

[split igloo]

Look at the other stat. Ignore Glory.

[mint cedar]

or just at some point

[split igloo]

It's insane how op the Persephone skull is omg.

[bleak night]

yeah, sure, but the Glory special is so fun tho

[jaunty cloak]

Do the shells still bounce all over the place?

[bleak night]

I gotta say btw

[split igloo]

The +30% to omega special is incredible.

[mint cedar]

@bleak night does it have to be two 16 heat clears in a row for statues

[split igloo]

Glory itself... I don't care about lol haha.

[zenith shell]

If you think that's cool check out my last fight where I deleted chronos https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1238155314000302131/2024-05-08_11-47-50.mp4?ex=663e417e&is=663ceffe&hm=f30bdb15b6d6f85eac14bfaf7461516e5a513651dd00d53e42778f00e4409258&

[bleak night]

as someone that mostly uses Staff and Axe, playing as Skull feels so fast, I can just weave in anything with the special's dash

[bleak night]

not in a row, no

[split igloo]

I fully forgot its attack exists lol haha.

"Attack boon" <- ignoring all of those.

[mint cedar]

thanks. was really worried it had to be in a row

[bleak night]

oooh, you're doing the chop, nice

[mint cedar]

from what skele said

[zenith shell]

Deleted half his health in like 2 swings LOL

[jaunty cloak]

Yea that chop is extremely good if you're careful

[split igloo]

The skull attack feels really uncomfortable and I use it to break things only but that's it.

[bleak night]

I personally prefer swinging the Axe around

[jaunty cloak]

Honestly with the damage he is putting out there, no caution required. Just face tank lol

[bleak night]

that's also true, lol

[split igloo]

I have no reaction time for axe/sickle.

[jaunty cloak]

The sickles give you ample opportunity to bail?

[split igloo]

I am really surprised why people are sleeping on the skull omega attack tbh. It allows a horrible player like me easily beat Chronos.

[jaunty cloak]

Axe is like a completely different universe for timing

[split igloo]

I have a 2-second reaction window.

[bleak night]

I have the Omega version of your run, let me find the video

[zenith shell]

Really I found the skulls to be the worst weapon having the ammo limited really felt bad imo

[split igloo]

Please read what I wrote haha.

I never use the attack. Ever.

[jaunty cloak]

Wait did you mean omega special then?

[zenith shell]

I see only the special?

[split igloo]

I feel like a lot of people probably just use normal attacks on all weapons a lot and miss the omega special on the skull.

[zenith shell]

Ahh

[jaunty cloak]

Yea the bull rush is great

[split igloo]

The omega special specifically. It is extremely overpowered.

[modern yacht]

Omega special feels like Crack. It's so addictive

[bleak night]

I mostly like the skull because the movement on it is so fluid compared to everything else

[zenith shell]

It never seemed to do enough damage what boons do you ideally pair it with

[split igloo]

Aphrodite + double attack hammer.

It deals 1K per attack right now for me.

[queen charm]

Medea skulls got potential

[jaunty cloak]

Oh my god lol

[modern yacht]

Which skull aspect?

[zenith shell]

Nice I'll have to give it a try

[split igloo]

I use Persephone only because Medea does not boost the omega special.

[queen charm]

hmm

[jaunty cloak]

Do the axe aspects change the movesets at all?

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778505838003879938/1237473476202205184/funni_axe.mp4?ex=663bc67b&is=663a74fb&hm=8097a08189d88eb21b279dd7303e7342d0c6fe31af087d9b407647d807d8998e Omega Swinging version of your Gigasmash Axe build, mute the volume probs, it dies sometimes

[jaunty cloak]

Thanatos looks like it has potential

[deep summit]

Than is godly imo

[queen charm]

Im assuming lvl 5 Than is 20% crit rate

[deep summit]

Absolutely love that thing it feels amazing if you build into the crit, Artemis keepsake for Erebus then swap off after, stay moderately low for around 70% crit

[jaunty cloak]

I have seen that it is

[sand crow]

Axe omega attack is wonderful and I love it lol

[queen charm]

that's nuts

[deep summit]

Question about one of the hammer buffs for axe

[jaunty cloak]

Especially with the hammer that lets you attack and stuff after you pop it

[sand crow]

WAIT THATS A THING?? oh dang

[deep summit]

There’s one that labels giving “10% buff to attacks and -20% damage taken while attacking” as its attacks plural does that include omega attacks

[bleak night]

I kinda wanna do a Skull run now

[jaunty cloak]

Yep feels like the aspect of zeus from H1 if the special stayed on you

[sand crow]

I just knew about the one that lets you charge it super fast and move around

[deep summit]

Wondering how good that is for my axe Thanatos spin to win builds I’ve been using

[sand crow]

It makes me so happy that spin to win seems really good this game

[jaunty cloak]

Man that forward dash that Chronos does catches me flat footed all the time

[split igloo]

Oh, I forgot to mention. The whole duration of skull omega special you are invulnerable.
If you get 100% Glory, you are invulnerable for 5 seconds.

[sand crow]

I loved Hades spear from the last game but the skill ceiling did kinda plateau

[deep summit]

I had a genuinely insane run with Thanatos axe with that and the 60% faster charge on omega for the spin

[tulip hedge]

medea skull with the hammer that lets you load all skulls at once, aphrodite attack/special, and the hera magick boon is so so strong

[sand crow]

That second hammer is so so fun

[split igloo]

There is no attack stronger ingame right now than that 💀

[jaunty cloak]

There is one for omega attack? The special channel hammer is fantastic

[bleak night]

I'm more used to how he fights now, but man it was terrible the first few times for me

[sand crow]

The attack channel hammer is arguably better

[jaunty cloak]

Yea lets you defend for longer

[deep summit]

But yeah get any hammer buff relating to omega attacks, get crit from Artemis keepsake and play low health (you’re trying to not get hit anyways so I also try for apollos damage increase for each room till you get hit)

[split igloo]

Medea skull is too risky for me because I can't react to anything.

[sand crow]

K. How does one make torches not feel horrible to play 😭

The only non Mel aspect I have rn is Artemis blades, can't wait to get the boss materials to get everything else

[deep summit]

And also the buff card that gives 50% to enemies with 2 debuffs on, poesidon on either your attacks or special lets you get slip for even MORE damage to afflicted enemies, Hera also good for spreading your damage once you begin spinning

[jaunty cloak]

Special spam. Become the ballerina you are in your heart.

Anyone try a true glass cannon run with the Eris keepsake? I could see that stacking some insane damage.

[deep summit]

The BEST hammer boon is one that goes “your omega attacks damage ramps up for consecutive hits” I was able to hit for around 1.3k per tick on the rapid spin on a NON crit

[sand crow]

A friend of mine put ||Hera|| on the special and had a good time?

[split igloo]

Eos torch:
Magick build + Attack build: Poseidon + Hestia + Zeus flat damage things.
Hold attack and spam dash to boomerang giant shots.

I only can win the game with either Eos torch or Persephone skull. While they feel very different, they both are very very safe.

[split igloo]

Only against mobs.

[bleak night]

have you tried Staff Aspect of Momus? It's really safe, too

[split igloo]

I get killed on it.

[bleak night]

oh, huh

[split igloo]

I am that bad tbh.

[bleak night]

what do you do on it ?

[hollow stag]

What’s an easier more effective build than Staff with Double Special hammers?

I think this is the most newb friendly, then again I only won with this set up.

[zenith bolt]

mel aspect, aphro special, any decent magick regen boon
spam your choice of special or omega special

[split igloo]

I try to build for omega spam and hope for the attack omega heal hammer.

[bleak night]

Oh, you just spam the Special button without charging it up

[split igloo]

Without the time slowdown I get killed if I do that.

[bleak night]

it's kinda bland gameplay, but it clears stuff really quickly lol

[deep summit]

I’m a big fan of the base sister blades tbh if you can get the hammer that lets the knives track enemies so the shotgun homes in

[sand crow]

Ohhh I had this super cool build with the gigantic special explosion boon, Hestia gain, and the Nightmare hex which just basically gave me invincibility all the time

[bleak night]

Staff with double hammers spamming Specials is the most newb friendly, ngl

[split igloo]

The torch omega attack dash spam is safer than the special spam on the staff.

[bleak night]

like, nothing else is gonna be more effective than it

[jaunty cloak]

Increased attack range is also kinda nice for a buffer*

[split igloo]

It also takes me ages to kill anything on the staff in general, while Eos melts things down very fast and safely.

[bleak night]

oh, huh

[sand crow]

I think I could've beaten Kronos if I hadn't been ensnared by the Tartarus time stop enemies and hit by like 5 different lasers simultaneously lol

[blazing mesa]

Unrelated, but there's those Chaos boons which put a 120 second time limit on finishing encounters before insta kill. How do people feel about these also being applied to bosses? I think it's unfair, but I'm not sure if I'm early game and just too weak to beat bosses quick enough to beat the timer

[split igloo]

I only play other weapons during Pitch Black Stone.

[bleak night]

I never pick those for that reason tbh

[jaunty cloak]

High risk, maybe not great reward tbh. You should have an idea how close to the boss you are and avoid it like the plague if you don't have the deeps

[sand crow]

Wait is that time limit not in total??? I thought it was saying you only have 2 minutes to beat all 3 encounters LOL

[deep summit]

Yeah I barely scraped by on first boss with that timer on and I was nuking their health near instantly each phase, the phase changes took so long that I was on about 15s when it ended and the timer keeps going even after an encounter is done which for that boon I think might need a change

[charred seal]

Staff zeus is fun

[split igloo]

Oh, the boon conflict thing is back?

[jaunty cloak]

Yea

[split igloo]

First time I see god boon conflict.

[jaunty cloak]

Hestias floor is lava nonsense sucks

[deep summit]

Run still went smooth, the reward for the chaos boon was spicy enough for me to have taken it but I forget exactly what

[blazing mesa]

I just feel like it should pause the timer on a boss fight

[split igloo]

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/qKpb77ZiueiN.png?o=1 Wow. That's a lot.

[jaunty cloak]

Do not turn down hestia lol.

[split igloo]

Okay.

[sand crow]

I honestly love Hera's boon pool, you get awesome percentage boosts and it's very interactive with the boons you already have lol

[deep summit]

I think it should maybe be 150 or something if they’re gonna have it still run after a fight is over

[split igloo]

I guess I get both boons in the end anyways lol.

[jaunty cloak]

I would like it more if hitch did more on bosses

[queen charm]

those Hermes shrines are really good-doesnt take long to stack a lot of boons with them; just imagining how many boons you can get when the full surface run is possible

[deep summit]

That or have it end when the encounters end but that reduces the speed buying of items and collecting from Charon wells and stuff lmao which I quite enjoy

[sand crow]

I mean... It's like what, 60% at common for attack?

[deep summit]

I need to play with the time pressure on fear more soon

[sand crow]

Not as high as Aphro, but there's no distance requirement so 👀

[jaunty cloak]

Yea but wouldn't you just roll aphro for an even better boost? Obviously hitch has a ton more utility for clearing general encounters

[deep summit]

I wanna gush about the Thanatos axe so much lmao but it’ll likely get boring if I keep talking on it

[sand crow]

Oh for sure

[deep summit]

That thing is peak, favourite weapon in both games imo, I loved butterfly from the first game so it hits so good for me

[jaunty cloak]

Honestly I did not remember that 60 percent boost for hera. That does change my opinion a touch

[deep summit]

I’ve had 70 at common

[zenith bolt]

[sand crow]

I think it differs per weapon lol

[little ridge]

is there a full list of boons and duo boons yet

[deep summit]

Ah ye

[jaunty cloak]

Hera is good for dagger special especially with the omni directional omega

[sudden belfry]

what r the best staff builds/boons

[bleak night]

I wanna do a run with it, mostly been playing Mel axe

[sand crow]

I think hers is the second highest percentage boost?

[modern yacht]

I love hera for cast and magic re gen

[zenith bolt]

hestia's is my go-to magick regen

[sand crow]

Mana regen on Hera is MAD broken.

[jaunty cloak]

Poseidon mana orb

[sand crow]

As long as you get more max Magick you're fine

[hollow stag]

Hestia makes projectile guardians much easier

[deep summit]

I’d say to be careful the transfer over from having faster recovery on attacks in melinoes gave me a severe skill issue when I first started with than, lost several runs at early points to needless damage due to being so used to being able to greed with the speed boost from base aspect

[thin lantern]

Oh yeah. For sure, Hera's magick boon is the strongest by a mile

[sand crow]

Okay can we also talk about how absolutely broken the well item that extends the duration of your items to 2 Guardians is??

[deep summit]

Took a while to readjust to the slower axe once I had Thanatos down to muscle memory

[thin lantern]

oh yeah that one's glorious, Charon's items have been REAL nice

[sand crow]

Like just throw the Omega move booster on there and boom you have a 50% DPS increase for 2 biomes

[split igloo]

I feel like a simple mod that does this to Hitch:
+15% damage if only one enemy is affected
Is enough to make Hitch more worthwhile on bosses.

[sand crow]

Ooooooh that could be a good supporting boon

[bleak night]

I can probably try to get used to it, yeah. Main issue for me is that the lack of casting time needed for the swing is what allows me to time my stuff. The crit chance is very tempting though, so I really wanna give it a go

[sand crow]

Like Lonely Heartbreak

[jaunty cloak]

Oooh good call. Or something similar to demeters solo chill in the first game

Not solo sorry. Everyone chill lol

[split igloo]

In this case Divorce lol.

[deep summit]

Imo a lot of the bosses don’t really need it with the number of shielded ad phases they throw at you and I think it might unbalance a bit, Hera is the aoe setup so giving a flat 15% would cause her to just become a high defacto a bit like the sheer amount of crit Artemis gave in the first game, kinda why I think they made her appear less often in this game

[split igloo]

Because Hera.

[bleak night]

@jaunty cloak https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238163522873987182/Axe_double_dash_strike.mp4?ex=663e4923&is=663cf7a3&hm=87aaa1e869d53044dd3751b0119ff429043a67c36affbf481e176d3d50c05b8a I can consistently do the dash strike into no-windup first attack now took a bit to get my fingers used to the timing

[split igloo]

Hera is a mix of differents kinds of meta boons too, so why not.

[deep summit]

Another thing to watch out for is there’s a chaos reward that gave me around 24% faster charge for all omegas

[bleak night]

Ah, that'd help a lot

[jaunty cloak]

This is awesome. Going to work on that timing here tonight. Thank you.

[split igloo]

Sometimes the game locks you into specific gods on its own with rng, gods can share similar boons.

[deep summit]

Touché

[bleak night]

sure thing

[bleak night]

You ever test out the Axe's mechanics btw ?

[sand crow]

Yeah definitely a more apt name... Maybe it could be a legendary boon in exchange for a bigger damage bonus? Seems really strong for a goddess who's designed to excel at crowd control and struggle in solo

[split igloo]

I feel like many gods have multiple things they can do as I mentioned haha.

[deep summit]

Mechanics in what way

[jaunty cloak]

Has anyone seen anything compiled for legendary / duo boons? Curious about some of the gods I rarely see

[sand crow]

Still haven't gotten any duos sadge 😭

[jaunty cloak]

Like I've probably seen demeter less than 5 times total

[bleak night]

refer to video file names https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238142681339662427/Axe_no_third_hit.mp4?ex=663e35ba&is=663ce43a&hm=96d5fe1e8bb5fddbcc2e93f11f2e94030eafd6926352a398d69a84bb55754484
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238144125207842887/Axe_absorb_animation.mp4?ex=663e3713&is=663ce593&hm=fb8e37c7ffd449b2b9964d5fe6b316d30c0c8aebab9a84cbee123713821d7253

[sand crow]

Me with Hephaestus lol

[split igloo]

Oh yes, they reduced their chance by a lot this time around I guess.

[sand crow]

Also.... (Where's Dionysus??)

[deep summit]

Oh yeah delay cancelling to avoid slams and parries with the shield on special

[jaunty cloak]

Hungover

[deep summit]

Big fan of using the parry offensively to gain ground during bullet hell phases

[bleak night]

I've been practicing my parry-style shield movements, too

[kind whale]

good boons to get early on?

[split igloo]

Aphrodite really became a must this time around for me somehow. Last game I had to always avoid her.

[deep summit]

There’s one particular Aphrodite boom

[sand crow]

??? She was MAD good last game if you have a high base damage weapon

[deep summit]

Where you have “if you took less than 20% of your health in damage this chamber, get 100% back” which is WILD

[sand crow]

Like throwing Aphro on Hestia attack was unnecessarily good lol

[kind whale]

best keepsakes early on?

[deep summit]

Ungodly, genuinely wild

[jaunty cloak]

This reminded me of the hammer* that gives you a massive dmg buff after every block

[split igloo]

I only played aspect of Chaos.

[deep summit]

Skelly imo, extra death defiance is just more time to learn bosses mostly

[split igloo]

I couldn't use anything else without dying.

[thin lantern]

Hey guys, can someone do me a favor and check your Fated List for the prophecy that involves clearing something with a list of Arcana cards that includes most of the cards currently in game? Can you tell me if it's necessary to clear a run, or to just beat a guardian that way?

[deep summit]

Till I got competent with final boss I just stayed on the tooth

[kind whale]

damn that sounds great

[jaunty cloak]

If I consume the dd I swap to Odysseus

[glossy galleon]

i like Arachne the most tbh

[deep summit]

It’s not the same as a defiance tho, defiance scales as a % with current health, the tooth at max rank is a flat 107 iirc

Which early runs is better since it’s likely a full heal

Later tho it might be less my defiances usually are giving around 100 to 130 by the end of runs

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238165594541654138/Hades_II_2024-05-10_00-27-11.mp4?ex=663e4b11&is=663cf991&hm=bfd604b95bf9960fb83ab2dc76a1d84ea182ada32d8c6a151e89601be3f8c5c6 This hurts my fingers to do consistently, but it allows me to block in front of me while doing a dash attack into animation-cancelled swing, which I can hold into an omega charge

[split igloo]

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/6FOMnBuDMb2f.png?o=1 This is not balanced.

[mint cedar]

"descend to the lowest riches and prevail there" so i think it's the big guy

[sand crow]

Ahhh... If you ever go back to H1 I recommend Zeus shield or Hestia Rail, they're kind of insanely safe

[thin lantern]

DAMMIT

[wet nova]

Does evade evade evade work for echos buff?

[sand crow]

Arachne is such a good keepsake especially once you get used to the first boss

[split igloo]

Scylla deleted in 3 seconds... uhm.

[deep summit]

Oooh now that’s new for me I might have to test that out, input is just Dash > Special > Attack > Attack? Any specific timing to it, does the uppercut have to be almost the same time as the shield input

[wet nova]

it says everytime I dodge I lose it but im losing it even tho I havent dodged

[split igloo]

I mean before they all shielded up.

[split igloo]

I got bored of that game after 14 hours haha so no oof. But this game is making me have too much engagement 💅🏻

[bleak night]

Attack (cancelling the animation) -> Dash -> Shield = Attack -> Attack (use stored animation that was cancelled earlier)

[sand crow]

WHOA WHAT

[deep summit]

Oooh

[bleak night]

I input shield and attack at the same time

[deep summit]

Booting up imma test

[sand crow]

Ahhhh gotcha. If you haven't gotten true ending I highly recommend it!!

[bleak night]

[bleak night]

play Axe

[wet nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938077229206876223/1238165936150941849/image.png?ex=663e4b63&is=663cf9e3&hm=0f798d0c1087ad77be5d59764a92956457016a64e50ec75fe552688c222e7f01&

[split igloo]

Okay uhm. I can't go back to anything after the skull.

[wet nova]

I havent dodged once but im somehow at 8%

[split igloo]

Oh I watched everything I could find before I bought Hades 1 so I already know.

[jaunty cloak]

This was me last night with the hell chop with aphro attack

Annihilated them all

[mint cedar]

get lucky with circie keepsake: get the last tarot card and get a bunch of extras

[split igloo]

Aannnnd I got Transcendent Creation... what is this run. Switching to the Pin.

[split igloo]

The game rng is strange. Confirmation bias is affecting me.

[sand crow]

I already really liked Axe, this makes me want to play it even more

[thin lantern]

ah. I just switched my entire build to the last like eight cards I needed, but this sucks.

[bleak night]

I'm just enjoying the prospect of labbing a weapon in Hades

[mint cedar]

that's how i only have "strength" left haha

[jaunty cloak]

Aspect of Zeus (with zeus boons) was my most consistent build in H1. Beyblade mooooode

[deep summit]

on attempts i always end up having the cancelled animation play directly after the attack then the shield comes up, what are you doing to stagger it

[sand crow]

MOOD the way you're describing it honestly reminds me of labbing in Smash Bros training mode

[deep summit]

there we go suitable name change

[drowsy magnet]

who´s skelly 🤨

[jaunty cloak]

lool

[sand crow]

I don't understand what you're doing in this clip?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238144125207842887/Axe_absorb_animation.mp4?ex=663e3713&is=663ce593&hm=fb8e37c7ffd449b2b9964d5fe6b316d30c0c8aebab9a84cbee123713821d7253&

[split igloo]

Shameless Attitude Epic... my gods.

[zenith bolt]

some hades 1 character, incomparable to our mighty schelemeus

[jaunty cloak]

I died when I first saw him in Hades 2.

[deep summit]

ah sorry, Schelemeus

[bleak night]

I'm spamming animation cancels first by having attack windups into cast, spamming shield as I walk, etc

[drowsy magnet]

trueeeee

[deep summit]

i choose to believe Schelemeus is just Skelly grown up

[jaunty cloak]

I love when schelemeus breaks character to say some skelly stuff

[sand crow]

Our mighty Schelemeus, their barbaric Skelly

[deep summit]

our beautiful frog, their wretched dog

[bleak night]

cancelling my attack into shield to store the animation, then you can press Attack, and Attack 1 comes out with no beginning windup

[sand crow]

OH

[bleak night]

you can even walk around with it until you decide to press it again

[sand crow]

Ok don't mind me screenshotting

[thin lantern]

apparently it confirms if you give him enough nectar

[deep summit]

i shall hand more to them then

i have been very preoccupied with uh, Moros

[thin lantern]

HMMMM. I'm 3/6 to Coarse Grit. I COULD win if I get very very lucky

[zenith bolt]

my beautiful ??? (i havent unlocked familiars yet somehow)

[mint cedar]

he gives the luckier tooth smh

[deep summit]

theyre both his teeth, he just deems this one is luckier because its a wisdom tooth

[jaunty cloak]

I didnt realize that luckier tooth is just 1 health extra per level compared to lucky tooth.

[split igloo]

The + movement speed is a big problem in the Chronos phase 2. I can't get into the circle.

[mint cedar]

i mean that it implies he knows of the lucky tooth

[jaunty cloak]

Even with sprint?

[sand crow]

He also flat out says "oh yeah your brother did that too"

[zenith bolt]

shoutout to chronos choosing the circle to stand in as the one furthest from me yesterday

(i ate a death defiance but it was still my best fight of him yet)

[split igloo]

Because I am too fast, I can't precisely step inside it.

[sand crow]

I do not know what the Chronos fight is like so I shall excuse myself lol

[zenith bolt]

chronos gets a stiff back and falls over (too old

[jaunty cloak]

I can dodge everything except the front dash which tags me every time for what feels like 50% of my health

[bleak night]

Oh, haven't gotten that far yet ?

[zenith bolt]

only real ones know the name of chronos' scythe

[jaunty cloak]

educate us

[zenith bolt]

he tells you it if you use aspect of thanatos

hrodreptus iirc

[fluid quail]

you use aphrodite or zeus for aspect of eos?

[wet nova]

Poseidon😂

[split igloo]

Flat damage boosting gods only for me.

Poseidon, Zeus, Hestia (with 300 scorch boom).

[jaunty cloak]

Poseidon sprint* is so funny to me

[lament kestrel]

i like it but damn im finding it hard to use

[sand crow]

I made it to the last biome with a cheater build and then died because I got stuck in a time stop bomb and got lasered to death

[fluid quail]

on attack right?

[lament kestrel]

just doing my first run with it

[sand crow]

Pro tip, while you're starting out spam omega attack

And charge it up

[lament kestrel]

yeah its just that it then locks u in so u cant dodge

[sand crow]

I'm pretty sure you can??

[fluid quail]

whats the strat with it?

jsut spam a bunch into enemies and dash into them?

[sand crow]

I think you can cancel the attack in the middle, you just waste some Magick

[sand crow]

OH you might be talking about the slam. Yeah don't use that

[lament kestrel]

oh i didnt know thart

[sand crow]

Unless you want very big number, at risk of death. I mean like using the channeled version, I'm 90% sure you can cancel it in the middle with a dash

[sacred copper]

Hello

Why is the oath thingy scamming me

Not giving me nightmare on boss kills even with fear active

[thin lantern]

You have to kill the specific marked boss with the specific weapon

[split igloo]

Magick build. Hold Omega Attack and keep dashing around to boomerang.

[zenith bolt]

you have to have enough fear and kill the specific boss chosen

[split igloo]

When you are out of Magick, keep holding, it still deals a lot of flat damage.

[reef tiger]

u actually like the skull?!

[split igloo]

...

Are you going to tell me something about its attack?..

Because I don't use the skull's attack.

[reef tiger]

😮

[split igloo]

I think I need to put it into my name here.

[reef tiger]

wait how play then

[sand crow]

(I also like the skulls attack)

[sand crow]

spam omega special LOL

[split igloo]

There, fixed it.

[woven patrol]

Got it last night, did 1 run, was pretty solid

[reef tiger]

lmfao fair

wish i got a run with the demeter follow cast and apollo mana regen cast + hera 200% spawn time

[sand crow]

Definitely the most dopamine inducing attacks in the game

[rustic stump]

blades and heph are op for anyone wanting to use them, insane special or attack as long as you build some magik

[sand crow]

OH MY GOSH THATS SUCH A GOOD BUILD IDEA

[woven patrol]

I wanted to try something with Zeus and priming all my mana for perma lightning strikes, but it feels like there's no tempo

[jaunty cloak]

I have had better results with aphro attack on blades

[reef tiger]

would go hard with anything fr but like the luck required is sadge

[rustic stump]

maybe but I didnt get her so i got heph special and got it to heroic cause of demeter and every couple seconds I just burst 400 aoe damage

[jaunty cloak]

Unless I can get the heph attack CD down massively

[fluid quail]

I thought aspect of eos was his normal attack tho?

[reef tiger]

fr that goes so hard

[fluid quail]

wym you dont use the atack

[reef tiger]

u could also just use narcissus's keepsake

[rustic stump]

first good blade run is going so good its crazy

[reef tiger]

and retain just heph's common blessing

and then upgrade heph to heroic automatically upon reaching fountain

[rustic stump]

got 10ish second cooldown on both explosions so it works well on bosses and armor

[reef tiger]

gah btw any build recommendations for goofing eris up?

[jaunty cloak]

hide behind the columns for the harder to dodge stuff. Beat down outside that

[rustic stump]

if thats on the surface idk, ive only gotten to kill cronus once and now am working twoards going to surf

[reef tiger]

😮 there are columns to hide behind ?!

[barren pivot]

what does "prime until the next location" mean?

[zenith bolt]

soot sprint completely no-sells her fight

[sand crow]

Wait question, if you put heph on the special, does the explosion hit everyone that it touches or just the first?

[reef tiger]

fr? i always thought soot sprint was mid as balls

[split igloo]

Skull omega special solves every problem. 2K damage now from backstabs.

[rustic stump]

small area around

[zenith bolt]

prime = you can't use x magick from your magick bar
location = any room

[reef tiger]

tbh never did try it much

[zenith bolt]

99% of the threatening stuff in eris' fight is projectiles

[jaunty cloak]

I was kind of curious about this. With blades I have noticed that the attack occassionally compounds for a few seperate explosions

[zenith bolt]

and soot sprint still activates on dashing, too.

[barren pivot]

right but even after I go through a number of rooms, the magick still remains primed

[thick knoll]

What do you all think about the aspects?

[zenith bolt]

it primes it every room

[fluid quail]

you go pos / zeus attack on eos for atk then what do u look for after @split igloo

[sand crow]

Like if you get the hammer that makes a huge circle of knives, does Hephaestus trigger on each one?

[zenith bolt]

yeah it deletes projectiles, thats the main purpose of it

[rustic stump]

Do i go for ody keepsake or skull keepsake for corn

[reef tiger]

oh balloon balls, soot sprint deletes projectiles?! that does go mad hard

[split igloo]

Magick stuff and stuff that causes stuff when you spend Magick.

Survival stuff. Meta stuff. That's enough.

[sand crow]

Pos attack on Mel knives is so ridiculous I love it

[tawny stag]

Guys how do you unlock aspects?

I have reached the surface but still trying to finish the incantation to stay alive

[sand crow]

Aspects get unlocked after you beat Hecate with each weapon if I understand correctly

[hoary wedge]

hi which boons r best for twin blades dmg wise?

[reef tiger]

also just a question what do the different elements do btw?

like do certain combinations/amounts result in different effects

[tawny stag]

Thank you

[hoary wedge]

they affect boons. u need certain amounts to activate certain boons

[reef tiger]

is that it? ik infusions require like certain amounts of x elements

[grizzled igloo]

Basically certain elements are used in specific-types of Boons called "Infusions" like for example (Have 3 Water Elements gain 5 Mana Per Second)

yes that's it, no we don't like it

[hoary wedge]

ye pretty much all they affect are boons so far lol

[reef tiger]

yeah goofy fr. thought they did a lil more

[split igloo]

Just unlock all and encounter her with 4 afaik works.

[reef tiger]

welp early access is early accessing

[thin lantern]

Whew. I'm at phase 2 Chronos with this agonizing build

[tawny stag]

I mean it’s a way to get some more scattered boons a bonus it’s not too bad lol

[split igloo]

But it could be multiple optional requirements.

[tawny stag]

Chronos is crazy hard ngl he keeps dashing right up to me and smacking me idk how to deal with it

[grizzled igloo]

It could be better, plus if you just don't meet the requirement it's essentially a wasted Boon choice. I'd like if it was something we just earlier like the start of the run so we kinda 'build' towards it rather than "Oh here's a requirement for Water Boons despite the fact you're mostly running Hestia and Hephaestus"

[jaunty cloak]

Does that forward dash even have a telegraph? I am always so focused and smacking him that I havent been watching.

[thin lantern]

some of the infusions are incredibly strong though

[faint prairie]

can anyone explain to me how the aspect of persephone argent skull works? i just did a full run to chronos and i noticed zero difference from default skull

[grizzled igloo]

I'm not saying the Infusions are bad but the implementation of the entire system needs work

like how going above to the city you can sometimes find Elements as drops from the side houses

[feral kettle]

hey, can anyone tell me exactly how do you unlock the familiars? It's been over 30 runs and like 6 wins but no mention of it till now

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238165594541654138/Hades_II_2024-05-10_00-27-11.mp4?ex=663e4b11&is=663cf991&hm=bfd604b95bf9960fb83ab2dc76a1d84ea182ada32d8c6a151e89601be3f8c5c6 @deep summit @sand crow

[sand crow]

I think it's a cool way to get strong boons from a god without having to invest in them heavily. I take them if the build looks like it's gonna go that way, I don't if it doesn't lol

[grizzled igloo]

if we had a bunch of THAT to help us bad out our elements Infusions wouldn't be such a massive hit or miss

[tawny stag]

How do you upgrade things to heroic?

[bleak night]

oops wrong video lol

[hoary wedge]

did u not get any incantation recipes relating to it?

[thin lantern]

DAMMIT I died halfway through phase 2

[sand crow]

I mean still cool tho

[feral kettle]

not as of yet

[reef tiger]

narc keepsake rank 3

[tawny stag]

Oh for sure it could be better but that’s why we are here in Early access

[thin lantern]

I was so close to winning with this unreasonably scuffed build

[reef tiger]

wot was it

[grizzled igloo]

ye just saying y'know

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238175812356931715/weird_combo.mp4?ex=663e5495&is=663d0315&hm=66518bd2748b620f95685f3e8f9e52c4b129c94ce6a2a295b02889cea3173e7d

[tawny stag]

Thanks

[hoary wedge]

have u ever been to a fountain room in erebus?

[feral kettle]

just a few times, pet the cat everytime too

[tawny stag]

I have it’s got a cute kitty

[thin lantern]

momus build, thoroughly incomplete. no death defiances, buncha other crap missing because I thought I only needed to get through the first zone with all the missing arcana I had left

[split igloo]

Btw you can cast without interruping Eos omega attack.

[tawny stag]

I feel the miniboss in the fields is way harder than the moneybags miniboss

[reef tiger]

no shot 💀

[grizzled igloo]

@feral kettle Hecate should've given you a recipe for making 'biscuits' for taming a familiar early into the game. Have you tried the second tab of the Cauldron? might be there

[hoary wedge]

thats so weird. all i can think of is keep talking to hecate either through back home or during encounters. eventually she'll bring it up and u get incantation from it. idk tho, good luck

[reef tiger]

also guys have yall ever tamed the kitty? it disappeared after a while for me, just never showed up later on😦

[split igloo]

I am going to try to beat Chronos on Eos now.

[grizzled igloo]

also Argent Skull's ||Aspect of Circe|| goes so hard. They legit just gave us ||Beowolf|| 2.0

[hoary wedge]

the kitty should appear on the surface now!

[split igloo]

Only went to the surface with Eos before.

[reef tiger]

do other potential familiars show up only if u dont hv an existing familiar accompanying u btw? or does it not matter

[tawny stag]

How many surface runs did it take you guys to find all the reagents for the incantations

[hoary wedge]

doesn matter

[reef tiger]

yipee guess ill grind for the surface fountain rooms then

[grizzled igloo]

I don't know because I'm still in the process because Garlic doesn't exist

Garlic is a myth told to us by Chronos to distract us from going down and killing him

[feral kettle]

nope, just checked. There's only three incantations left (two for the final boss, one for the insight into the boons)

[grizzled igloo]

...maybe you already have it and just haven't given it to your frog or something?

[thin lantern]

What was good on Momus aspect special again?

[tawny stag]

all the surface things for the incantation require the spade right?

[grizzled igloo]

I mean there are some Pickaxe stuff (Bronze and Iron)

Spade is for Garlic and Mandrake

[tawny stag]

I mean for the incantation to stay in the surface

[feral kettle]

I'm pretty sure hecate never mentioned anything about the cat as of yet, and I also talk to Frinos a lot so idk lmao

[pine stream]

Aphro attack on the axe is probably the most busted thing ever

[bleak night]

Apollo's also really good on it, a bit safer

[grizzled igloo]

oh then I think so yeah, some are just gatherables though

[zenith shell]

Yes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1238155314000302131/2024-05-08_11-47-50.mp4?ex=663e417e&is=663ceffe&hm=f30bdb15b6d6f85eac14bfaf7461516e5a513651dd00d53e42778f00e4409258&

[grizzled igloo]

and technically you don't need to gather the|| Chaos ||Seeds since he just gives you two for free

[reef tiger]

gods i love having 3 death defiances

can just be so reckless when trynna get nightmares from early bosses

[woven bough]

Hey, does the omega attack on the blades not ||properly track Chronos as he's hovering? I used an artemis aspect scorch build but whenever I tried to omega attack, it would not hit||

[pine stream]

yeah +100% damage on room 1 is crazy (dont nerf tho lol)

[split igloo]

Okay Eos + Zeus also melts Hecate.

[deft delta]

hi guys, i need help. how tf do i beat chronos xddd. i have no problem with the 3 bosses but im struggling against chronos. im playing axe with aphro but i still cant do much, hes jsut doing to much dmg and i feel like hes unpredictable

[feral kettle]

damn I'm trying to send a media clip here but can't find the option

[feral kettle]

Getting rid of his minions and having a sprint boost helps me often, he has clear definable patterns

he is just a pool of hp tho he tanks too much

[reef tiger]

also whats the scaling on power btw?

[reef tiger]

whats the combo here? like boons?

[grizzled igloo]

After awhile you start to feel some of his "safe" zones. If you're using the axe don't try to block everything you see and rather exploit openings you know where he WILL be. His sides generally feel safe since his wide slashes have a massive dead zone around him and his charge only comes out in a straight line. In fact I feel like staying next to Chronos to feel 'better' than trying to stay from a respectful distance

[zinc glade]

big chop hammer + aphro attack i think

[reef tiger]

oh neat

[grizzled igloo]

Mostly because Aphrodite regen made me LEARN when it was just safe to AFK next to him

[reef tiger]

aphrodite regen is which boon exactly? dont know if ive encountered that

[grizzled igloo]

always inflict Weak on at least one enemy in the room. As long as you're next to a Weak enemy regen Mana

[zenith shell]

https://imgur.com/a/hX2Nhjr

[reef tiger]

ahh mana regen nvm

[grizzled igloo]

The regen is... pretty bad for the condition since it's VERY strict how close you need to be. So I just learned to hug Chronos lmao

[reef tiger]

lmfao

[feral kettle]

https://streamable.com/gjiaja here, seems like a weird predicament

[grizzled igloo]

...But wait you've had the biscuits though. At 0:23 it's the 5th Item to the from the left. Sure it says 0 but you wouldn't be able to see it at all if you didn't get it at least once

[feral kettle]

huh

[grizzled igloo]

...Maybe you've always had a familiar and never knew or just didn't equip it?

[feral kettle]

that would be hilarious, how do you equip it?

[steep flame]

are flat bonus' or percent ones better for the dagger specials?

[wet nova]

Near the gathering tools they should be

[vale shard]

howd you kill 5 guardians

[grizzled igloo]

It should just auto equip, there's not really an option to take it off and I haven't gotten the second familiar yet

[sturdy meteor]

can anyone suggest me about a build for the flame dual wand things ? i cant seem to quite get the hang of them

[runic birch]

I've not figured them out yet, either; they're a bit awkward for my usual playstyle

[vale shard]

familiars can be equipped in the training yard

[grizzled igloo]

@feral kettle do me a favor, go the the Practice Range and press B or whatever it is you use to bring up your Boons List on Controller and if you see your familiar there you'll know

[sturdy meteor]

they are kinda fun but they are very inconsistent

[wise wadi]

Is apollo special better than aphro special for twin blades?

nvm i went cast

[grizzled igloo]

I mean unless you're specifically shotgunning the Special for Aphro's close range bonus I'd say Apollo?

[runic birch]

yeahhhhhh
I'm not too fond of the delay between pressing the attack button and attacking, since it's supposed to be a hold to attack ordeal
the lack of control you have over the special's also something I've gotta get used to fjhsdgfjsd

[feral kettle]

is there no way to send a screenshot on this channel?

[sturdy meteor]

mhm ... idk if they do get stronger but im trying out a zeus special build...its ....meh i thought i could proc a lot of blitz with that but sadly cause the hits are so inconsistent with special i keep missing a lot of it

[runic birch]

ack, yeah

[winter stag]

is it just me or is ||hestia/apollo combo|| just a run winner by itself

[runic birch]

I've kind of seen the skulls as a better staff

[runic birch]

uhhhhhhh pretty much
even better if you find Aphrodite's auto-heal boon that just says "no, you have max health now" when you leave a room over a certain threshold

[sturdy meteor]

whats the combo ?

[winter stag]

||Phoenix skin. regens 3 hp/sec if not dealing or taking damage. btw are duo boons spoiler content?||

[mint cedar]

it says spoilers are allowed, and it's a build item, so probably not

this is the boon discussion channel

[sturdy meteor]

i guess so ? but thanks ill try it out if i can

[split igloo]

What does that duo do?

[solemn thunder]

so, it seems that apollo's sprint still applies Daze if you dash through an enemy without starting the full sprint. But i don't think any other sprint boon works this way, with the effect still working on a normal dash. am i wrong? or missing something?

It makes apollo's sprint really good for applying a curse for the purposes of priveleged status

[mint cedar]

the hestia sprint works like that too

[solemn thunder]

how about the Hera sprint? based on apollo's, you would expect it to still apply Hitch on a normal dash, but I don't think that's the case

[feral kettle]

https://streamable.com/yxcaig funny stuff

[grizzled igloo]

Umbral Flames are weird. I haven't won with them yet nor have I played with its Aspects all that much but on Base Aspect of Melinoe the best build I've ever gotten was Hera on Attack as it's long ranged piercing makes spreading Hitch hilariously easy making them arguably the best trash mob clearer. Then use the Special less like an offensive tool but a defensive one to prevent enemies from getting close (I personally love Demeter on Special).

[grizzled igloo]

Yeah... it's not there I have no idea what the hell is going on

[runic birch]

I haven't gotten aspects yet, since I took a break after Chronos
but that makes sense, using the special defensively- it's what I tend to do on skulls as well

that dash with poseidon's boon is unhinged in terms of damage

but it's also solid at cutting crowds

[winter stag]

i mentioned it in a follow up message

[zenith shell]

Just found a very fun and visually appealing combo of Explosive Intent Weedkiller, and Moonsilver Axe Omega Attack. Also managed to have 43% dodge chance this run which was bonkers.

[feral kettle]

cool, wondering if supergiant is aware of this yet lmao

[zenith shell]

#h2-victory-boasting message

[runic birch]

niiiiiice
dodge is honestly pretty insane late-game

[feral kettle]

maybe i should keep talking to hecate ig

[solemn thunder]

I don't remember what it's called, but the aspect that causes the attacks to explode if you hit them with a special is actaully insane. It makes it so that after you do an Omega special, basically every attack explodes. I had a run with hera attack and demeter special on it, and i did end up dying to eris but it was still really good

[zenith shell]

Literally just posted above with the video I posted

Explosive Intent

[grizzled igloo]

Ah Aspect of Moros, I was thinking of using it soon, might as well

[mint cedar]

Dungeon munchies

[solemn thunder]

yeahhh moros, it's very good. took me from "this weapon feels useless" to "OH"

[upbeat steppe]

I am struggling at the Chronos fight, even with stacked Death Defiances. What's the recommendation weapon and boons to focus on for a clear?

[sturdy meteor]

btw what are the conditions to get that duo boon

[winter stag]

frankly i dont know, got it only once. doesn’t affect directly either blind or scorch so it could be anything

[grizzled igloo]

ayo? 🫡

[fluid quail]

ok aspect of eos does DAMAGE

[grizzled igloo]

I’ll be frank Chronos does so much stacked damage out of the gate with certain mechanics that there’s no really good recommended way of saying “get these boons” “use this weapon” that will give you the win easily

[sudden belfry]

is aspect of moros worth the investment

[grizzled igloo]

Dudes a fight check. Do you know his patterns? His safe zones? What he can and cannot do from this distance, is it safe for me to BE here

[mint cedar]

I think you can recommend any projectile speed decrease

[wise idol]

It’s my fav aspect so far, I maxed it out

[mint cedar]

As well as “use cast so he can’t jump you”

[thin lantern]

incorrect. 6 points earth element, coarse grit. enjoy winning.

[upbeat steppe]

I got really close in ||phase 2|| on one run about 10% left but I was still trying to sight read new mechanics I hadn't seen.-

my most recent was destroyed because I had to pause to answer a call and didn't know he could tell you to bugger off and unpause the game.

[thin lantern]

you have to actively struggle to lose with coarse grit

[fluid quail]

pan blades makes it brainless

[grizzled igloo]

damn Shield exists after all

[sudden belfry]

kewl, any particular boons to go for?

[split igloo]

Okay, it was easy on Eos. Not as easy as Pesephone, but Chronos is done for.

[grizzled igloo]

Bruh that’s SIX Earth Elements how the hell is that free

[split igloo]

Oh great thanks.

[bleak night]

Started with 5, got 5 per guardian.

My Judgment Arcana is maxed

[wise idol]

I personally put blitz on special, but a lot of things work. I recommend attack boons that have percentage multipliers, but it’s mostly preference tbh it’s a very good weapon for most gods

[thin lantern]

well, you said 'really good recommended' and 'easily', no one said free. use two god trinkets and grofit

[upbeat steppe]

I was running pan for the first time when I got to him on this recent run. it was pretty good.

[thin lantern]

Moros... Apollo for the BIG booms and percent boost on attack, and then blitz or hitch or something else along those lines on special I figure. poseidon with slip's nice for superfat projectile

[grizzled igloo]

I’m thinking like “get shield and fall asleep till your at dad” levels of free

[strange kite]

how u use 2 god trinkets?

[fluid quail]

go with the time stop and hit him 2 times in one curse

[thin lantern]

switch them in the boxes. need an incant

[grizzled igloo]

Just swap it out after a biome

[muted breach]

I've been trying to beat Chronos to no avail. Give me your best builds to defeat him please 🙏

[wise idol]

I usually go hitch attack and blitz special, I’ll have to try that out!

[fluid quail]

pan blades poseidon special, time stop arcana with special hammers and profit

[thin lantern]

ALSO hilariously if you can get heph attack down to like 2-3 seconds somehow, you're rolling

[grizzled igloo]

Well since people keep asking. Argent Skull Aspect of Circe and just… Aphrodite on both/either Attack or Special

[muted breach]

thank you, I'm gonna try that 🙏

[grizzled igloo]

recommend it on Attack more since it scales Harder though

[muted breach]

I don't have that weapon unlocked yet, but I'm gonna keep this in mind, thanks

[dreamy inlet]

path of stars trees arent permanent right?

[grizzled igloo]

Pan is funny doe

[grizzled igloo]

Reset every night ofc

[hasty agate]

Time stop works hex on Chronos?

[dreamy inlet]

[muted breach]

Don't think so

None of the time abilities work iirc

[grizzled igloo]

Nope don’t think the Slowdown Arcane Card when charging Omega works either

Nothing time related works on that man so I’ve just decided to remove the time slow card

[hasty agate]

Ah cool, didn't realise the arcana didn't work either, that's kinda cool

[split igloo]

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/1MGbTRBbQPzG.png?o=1
Oh. My. Chaos. This is insane.

[naive bloom]

Learning his attack patterns is best way to beat him honestly, but easiest way that I found to cheese him is to use the hex which turns you into a monster and only focus on that. It doesn't do a ton of damage but you're fully invulnerable in the state.

Plus, the last upgrade in the tree for the hex makes all of your casts in the state omega casts so you can chunk out a ton of damage (ie with poseidon)

Was able to do a full HP Chronos clear with this strat

[hasty agate]

Saw a video on twitter today that he refuses to let you pause in the fight too lol

[next dune]

god

[grizzled igloo]

30 PERCENT

[next dune]

the axe feels like dogwater

[thin lantern]

there's a... chaos infusion? holy what

[azure eagle]

fr, kinda underwhelming

[upbeat steppe]

That's Dark Side right? I usually end up forgoing it for a different hex because I didn't super enjoy it. (Some of my best runs have actually been with the healing hex upgraded to max.)

[next dune]

I had ONE good run with it and I thought it was actually okay, but now I realize that was a god run and in regular runs it just doesn't feel good @azure eagle

[split igloo]

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/5DLlZbUxwXQE.png?o=1 Oh. The Hera thing I talked about already does exist.

[next dune]

I genuinely think the best weapon in the game is the staff

[grizzled igloo]

Imma die on this hill and say the skull

[low ocean]

I'm kinda confused about one of Hera's boons, Keen intuition
I don't understand how it's helpful

[naive bloom]

Honestly don't remember the name, probably

It's not particularly fun without the tree fully upgraded because you don't deal that much damage but taking zero damage for up to 10 seconds is too good for cheesing

[split igloo]

Same.

Persephone Skull Omega Special + Aphrodite deletes everything with minimum risk.

[bleak night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1238124170282532944/1238190900782301335/weird_Apollo_Axe.mp4?ex=663e62a3&is=663d1123&hm=3a3df7df09a877cc5a162bf3dd6ed0bf701c986eaff7561089fe709bb8926a14 You can tell the exact point where I get mad and lose my patience

[vale shard]

whats your initial setp

[bleak night]

for this Judgment arcana loadout ?

[grizzled igloo]

the invuln on Omega Special + AoE and Big Burst Damage goes hard and Hammers can skyrocket the attacks

[vale shard]

yah

[bleak night]

VII (Titan) - +40HP/MP flat
VIII (Unseen) - Magick Regen (probably swap for something else when doing Momus runs)
XII (Eternity) - Death Defiance x3
XX (The Queen) - Higher Duo chance, is automatically active
XXV (Judgment) - After beating a boss, activate 3-5 cards (based on level)

[mint cedar]

I did Poseidon on the skull special with the double hit special hammer just because I wanted to sweep the surface ships with the ocean

[bleak night]

I try not to skimp out on whatever healing and HP I can when doing Fear runs

20 and 25 are automatic, so just punch in 7, 8 and 12

[grizzled igloo]

Like if you were to tell me they combined Exagryph and Aegis into a SINGLE weapon I’d tell you Supergiant burned the kitchen cause that sounds dumpster fire but somehow it’s super fun and super strong?

[mint cedar]

You can cover the entire boat with the special

[grizzled igloo]

The special is disgusting

[velvet maple]

What are your favorite aspect of each weapon?

[mint cedar]

It’s crazy you are actually invincible while using it

[grizzled igloo]

having five skulls all of which deal the Omega Attack for free is also disgusting

[thin lantern]

eh? you do take damage though, right

[grizzled igloo]

yeah like the axe can get hit by unblockables, the SKULL has no such weakness

[mint cedar]

During the charge I think you have the invincibility bubble

[grizzled igloo]

I’ve dashed into the cyclops so many times I know for fact you just don’t get hit

[mint cedar]

Right

[grizzled igloo]

Since you can’t block the shockwaves with the axe

[mint cedar]

You can see it I think

[thin lantern]

wait, the whole omega charge is invuln?

[grizzled igloo]

yes it’s glorious

[tired fulcrum]

Yep

[deft delta]

i need some good builds for chronos because im going crazy ive been trying to beat him for like hours and i just cant

[grizzled igloo]

It makes me wonder wtf Supergiant was thinking because they can make a gun + shield hybrid feels so fun and quirky and yet Umbral Flames Aspect of Melonie is… that

[thin lantern]

umbral flames are great... if used properly

[grizzled igloo]

Like I FEEL like it’s supposed to be the rapid fire Omega Attacker of the Umbral Flames Aspects… but upgrading it increases the power of the Special!

[olive hornet]

best hades (god) boon?

[marsh flame]

Last night I was surprised by how strong and effective Argent Skull with Aspect of Melinoe + Daedulus Hammer that gives 2 extra skulls was. Wrecks bosses. Wrecks rooms. tis beautiful.

[thin lantern]

That's because it isn't. The Umbral Flames attack spam aspect is Eos, and Moros uses both

[loud solstice]

What is the spark that appear on some enemies/bosses? Doesn't seem like any curse.

[split igloo]

Rapid attacks is already on Eos.

Not directly, but the boomerang essentially doubles attacks.

[grizzled igloo]

well I’m just a donut aren’t it

[split igloo]

I only play Persephone and Eos, can't use anything else.

[grizzled igloo]

Argent Skull Persephone?

[split igloo]

Omega Skull Special spam, yes.

[grizzled igloo]

Meaning to ask does it even work? I don’t feel much different when using the enchanted omega special

[split igloo]

It's stronger and Glory sometimes helps me avoid more damage.

[grizzled igloo]

huh

[split igloo]

+30% is better than +0% haha.

Medea offers nothing to my playstyle. I don't use skull attacks.

[mint cedar]

Every weapon is a cast build

[grizzled igloo]

the skulls deal so much base damage it goes disgusting on Zeus

[split igloo]

I use Aphrodite for the omega special to instakill everything.

It dealt 2K damage backstabs in my previous run.

[civic wing]

Is it possible to parry with the aspect of artemis if I have the sorceress arcana on?

[grizzled igloo]

true but I’ve been trying to make the skulls work even if I still just Omega Special all the time anyways

[onyx rain]

Anyone made moros aspect work on the torches ? I think I'm executing wrongly, I use Apollo on attack to make big explosions but I don't really manage to proc it constantly. Do you stack attacks and then boom everything at once ? Or do you special and then throw attacks in it while it rotates ?

[grizzled igloo]

god I can sit here and rant about how good Argent Skull’s everything is for like hours on end

[velvet maple]

What is recovery time? I dont fully understand that

[thin lantern]

the time before you can act again after an attack

[split igloo]

I just really don't like its attack, so I never use the attack itself.

But the omega special -> nothing compares to what it can do.

[mint cedar]

Is there a way to consistently get the hades cast boon

[oak ginkgo]

So is recovery time different from attack speed?

[dreamy inlet]

https://imgur.com/a/ylzzCMH
does this work with giga moonburst?

[random idol]

really enjoying staff (aspect of momus) with poseidon special

[dreamy inlet]

does that mean i get 2 giga explosions?..

[pliant elm]

No

[thin lantern]

attack speed is the speed of the attack animation itself

[bleak night]

this doesn't work with Ω Special

[grizzled igloo]

rerolls and I guess not having a boon that alters the way you place down the cast

[random idol]

also Demeters Rare Crop is busted

[mint cedar]

I like the skull

[thin lantern]

always has been. it's the OG of 'if you get this early you're going to steamroll' boons

[mint cedar]

And if it lands properly

… If you have Hera make a couple of boons heroic, and then rare crop them, do they stay common

[icy lintel]

Apollo and Zeus (The Duo Boon) cast seems to be quite broken. 1.5k damage for 15 Mana.

[grizzled igloo]

Apollo just seems must have for Cast builds

[icy lintel]

For sure. Though I think it is a little bug.

[mint cedar]

Just Zeus works fine

[grizzled igloo]

Hera might be an alternative but making your casts stay longer is a double edged sword

[icy lintel]

Since I need to Channel 45 Magick in total for the full damage, but I can stop at 15 and it still does the full damage.

[icy lintel]

I have enjoyed Demeter freezing or slowing enemies too. Either of her cast buffs make cast even better in the intended way.

[grizzled igloo]

Demeter’s Cast Boons feel fantastic

[mint cedar]

i like the additive cast boon

[random idol]

arctic ring goes crazy

[icy lintel]

I like the cyclone more than the freeze though.

[warped juniper]

is there a way to tell how much glory you have when using the aspect of Persephone?

[mint cedar]

also if you can preserve arachne's dress throughout the game, you can keep a free +100% cast damage

[split igloo]

I don't like anything from Demeter haha.

[sturdy meteor]

imo its the best one currently

[random idol]

not even rare crop???????

[thin lantern]

circle next to ammo

[split igloo]

No, I don't see a use for it now that I have all things I want unlocked.

[mint cedar]

Actually Demeter + haephestus can perma CC enemies

Especially with sprint

[split igloo]

Why CC when omega skull special deletes everything...

[warped juniper]

ah, so it's just a modal thing? you either have glory or you don't? I thought you gathered an amount of it then spent that amount.

[split igloo]

I guess for a Pitch Black Rock trial.

[mint cedar]

Because not using omega skull?

[modern yacht]

Demeter special goes foolish on skull

[grand glacier]

Hi, little question : whats is your ||prefered Lim and Oros's aspect|| ? Personnaly, I love the Aspect of Artemis. I'm trying to make the ||Pan's || work but I struggle with it. Which boons would be the best for ||Pan ||?

[thin lantern]

No, the circle fills up as you deal damage.

[errant lily]

when do i unlock aspects ?

[split igloo]

Far more damage from Aphrodite...

[warped juniper]

ah, okay, I hadn't noticed, thanks for answering! :>

[mint cedar]

If you have Demeter cast on an enemy you can spam every haephestus boon on them and they’ll stay frozen forever

[modern yacht]

That's pretty funny

[mint cedar]

Especially since freeze can be extended

[thin lantern]

bahahahaha I just managed to win with the scuffed meme arcana

[mint cedar]

You really only need the dash

[olive hornet]

what is the best atk boon?

[mint cedar]

Weapon dependent

[tall notch]

Pan seems busted, I just posted a 8 heat clear with it in the victory boasting channel if you wanna take a look at the build

[olive hornet]

axe

[errant lily]

aphrodite on axe and dual blades

[olive hornet]

thx

[errant lily]

get atk speed from hermes if u can too

[thin lantern]

DAMMIT I didn't know there was a second page

[mint cedar]

Poseidon is quite funny on axe too

[olive hornet]

and the thing that makes axe atk become only the last one right?

[mint cedar]

Of?

[errant lily]

best hammer is psychic whirlwind

[tribal lantern]

tips for fighting cerbie with axe?

[grand glacier]

I'll check that. I had the feeling than Pan was a lower chiron. I might be wrong ahah

[mint cedar]

Attack butt

[errant lily]

charge special when he has those red aoes on the ground and dont do the 3rd hit of the combo until he attempts his instant kill attack

cerb is aggressive enough u cant do the slam w/o trading in most instances

[tall notch]

It's a better Chiron, it synergises really really well with most special hammers

[mint cedar]

He has an instant kill attack?

[errant lily]

its an arena wide aoe u dodge by being near him

[tribal lantern]

also have we figured out the trigger for unlocking aspects yet?

[grand glacier]

A strong take ! Which boon did you chose for the technique (the throw of daggers) ?

[thin lantern]

the damned arcana fate

[mint cedar]

Oh I’ve just been going into the gaps or edges

[tall notch]

I had an epic Hera boon, not upgraded with any poms

[mint cedar]

Like the fasted list?

[dire dome]

ik this is subjective, but what weapons have the best Aspects would you guys say?

[thin lantern]

Well, at least I need just two more runs. One with everything except The Artificer, and one last with The Artificer on

oh wait, no, Judgement. ree.

[mint cedar]

Use Circe’s keepsake

[eager dove]

omg Medea skull is so much fun

[thin lantern]

not leveled yet :c

also I can't afford all the frickin moondust to upgrade judgement

[eager dove]

feels like a melee version of Zag's cast bow almost

[icy lintel]

Best I had was Demeter Weed Killer combined with Apollo Attack on staff. Something like 500 damage each special attack.

Weed killer in general seems to be pretty goods for axe and staff.

[frail jasper]

anyone got tips for chronos (using an omega special lim&oros build if that matters)?

[icy lintel]

Honestly just dodge. He is the easiest of the bosses to dodge skills of but fires a lot of skills.

[frail jasper]

even easier than hecate?

[icy lintel]

Hecate turning to sheep killed me 3 times back to back yesterday.
So yes. :D

[frail jasper]

dash through the ball...

[icy lintel]

It comes back!

[frail jasper]

dash through the ball again...

[errant lily]

dash up and down till it goes away

[icy lintel]

Only time I managed to escape it was with Apollo dash. Too fast for it to catch.

[frail jasper]

idunno what to tell you then

[icy lintel]

Well, some stuff that allow you to block completely work too.

[errant lily]

u can dash into the ball repeatedly

[ripe temple]

I just dashed into it multippe times and i kept dodging it

[errant lily]

its homing but it isnt perfect so u can get into a rhythm

[frail jasper]

only time it hits me is if I get hit by one of hecate's aoe attacks she fires off during it

[gusty lichen]

use frogge

[tribal lantern]

nvm just got it

[frail jasper]

Another thing is that I have heard that hephaestus gets alot of hate, why's that? His boons increase your damage by magnitudes early game and by late game you can use the vent effect to its fullest potential

[gusty lichen]

hephaestus

[errant lily]

how do i build around heph anyway ? i built him multiple times on axe but didnt get any vent boons

[icy lintel]

He is pretty good against bosses but how high cooldown his stuff has makes it hard to clear rooms fast with him.
Though if you can get enemies packed, you can clean an entire room with one attack.

[gusty lichen]

u skip it

[frail jasper]

I'm assuming the reroll arcanas make it easier

[frail jasper]

honestly makes sense

[thin lantern]

Go husband and wife, Aphrodite cast and Heph attack/special

[icy lintel]

Like... "Does 500 damage but with 20 second cooldown" is just not worth it when you are trying to clean rooms under 30 seconds.

[frail jasper]

I've not figured out how to see requirements for duo boons in this game, any way to find a list / get one in game?

[gusty lichen]

or divorce and aphrodite + posseidon

[thin lantern]

yup but you have to farm the stuff for it

[frail jasper]

doesn't upgrading the boons reduce the cooldown or am I mistaken?

[thin lantern]

it does, and it's VERY pom efficient

[gusty lichen]

it does

[frail jasper]

Axe + hephaestus seems goated because you're practically swinging every 10 seconds already

[desert shell]

Hera born gain is basically a win button

[gusty lichen]

it worsk for the whole attack or first enemy it hits? i dont remember

[icy lintel]

Axe+Zeus. It procs like 5 times in one charged attack.

[echo storm]

any of you guys struggling on the Eris fight?

[icy lintel]

First enemy it hits.

[frail jasper]

combine that with the psychic upgrade so you can swing during the omega...

[gusty lichen]

holy

[echo storm]

haven't been able to clear it, surface feels much harder than the underworld

[frail jasper]

You battle Eris?

[hollow stag]

The first boon of my current run is a hammer.

What are really good hammer boons?

Unfortunately, there is no double special hammer for staff.

[naive silo]

Its a fight in the surface ye

[frail jasper]

are you using the witch staff?

[hollow stag]

I can use any weapon.

My option for skull is Full Salvo, Rocket Bombard, Possessed Array.

[icy lintel]

In my current run I got Apollo attack, Demeter charged attack boost and Swift Strike from Hermes. Basically spin to win entire rooms.

[tawny stag]

i’ve never even seen hera

[echo storm]

Apollo seems really strong in general, sort of this game's Athena

[willow phoenix]

Any tips for chronos phase 2? How many instant kills does he have?

[frail jasper]

what's the deal with skull? I've got the mats but I haven't crafted it yet

[icy lintel]

Larger areas for attacks and skills is pretty good in general. His cast has one of the highest damages in the game and does not need any synergy.

[peak sentinel]

his only one shot move should be the "go stand there" one

[icy lintel]

You throw it and it explodes. Then you charge to gather the skulls again.

[echo storm]

yep, AoE seems WAY more important currently in Hades 2 than 1 as well so the increased area is really nice

[frail jasper]

Apollo cast + special + aphrodite heartthrob + umbral flames = balls

[echo storm]

at least in my experience, room clearing is much tougher than 1

[naive silo]

Two if i recall correctly, ome where you have to get to the small spot, and the other with the two radiuses you have to evade in the middle

[gusty lichen]

lets say u swing 6 times per 10 seconds right? Hephaestus gives +200 damage, baseline damage from axe is (40+80+160)*2 = 760 damage
Aphrodite gives 100% increased damage => 80 160 320 = 1120 damage?

[frail jasper]

So basically hades 1 gun

[echo storm]

also I'm not crazy, but this game feels significantly harder than Hades 1, no? Part of it is it being like 3 days old, but still lmao

[barren aspen]

Hephaestus is much easier to get damage off

[willow phoenix]

What do you mean evade in the middle? That one killed me actually and I'm still confused lol

[frail jasper]

isn't it 80% dmg increase? Like that's probably still more but still

[simple compass]

I'm convinced it is. Both mechanically and in terms of the relative power of builds to boss health bars.

[fluid quail]

nah because shes coded wrong

[hollow stag]

What are good boons for Skull?

[icy lintel]

With Heaven Strike, Unyielding Slash and Weed Killer, I have done 2k in one charged attack. It is pretty good. A bit hard to hunt for.

[barren aspen]

If you have bosses all figured out where you can max the number of hits, sure... but like Hephaestus is just easier

[fluid quail]

you can cheese eris everytime on every weapon it seems

[echo storm]

how so?

[tired fulcrum]

Soot sprint

[fluid quail]

she cant shoot through the wall and you can hit through the wall

[frail jasper]

The lim and oros hooked knives heroic demeter special chaos boon + fast charging hammer in question

[icy lintel]

Hephaestus is good since you are doing ranged AOE damage. Apollo if you want to get your AOE even bigger.

[echo storm]

Can't she break those pillars though?

[fluid quail]

have never seen her break them

[naive silo]

Theres one where Chronos summons two areas that detonate, one on the outer parts of the arena and one around him as he stands in the middle, you only have a small circular portion to evade it.

[frail jasper]

most bosses seem to have both a "stand in the middle or get hit" move and a "dont stand in the middle or get hit" move

[echo storm]

when she does the purple hestia rail shot if she hits a pillar it breaks it

[tired fulcrum]

Only with her charged attack thing but you can make her not hit it

[icy lintel]

Chronos is much easier than I thought he would be ngl. I die more to Cerberus than Chronos.

[tawny stag]

Is hera unlocked through story?

[echo storm]

I have no clue, Hera showed up in a random surface run for me

[hollow stag]

I die way more to Eris than Chronos, until I get Hestia boons

[naive silo]

Yeah its seems like a general boss move, for some reason

[upbeat steppe]

Some of the telegraphs remind me an awful lot of FFXIV combat (which is not a bad thing)

[frail jasper]

Doge seems kinda like a ds boss imho

[echo storm]

Is Hestia any good? She's prob the god I've messed around with the least

[gusty lichen]

no

[waxen cobalt]

Hestia is prolly the weakest imo

[frail jasper]

Hestia, she's the pyromanic right?

[simple compass]

I felt the same, Hades 2 has much more of that sort of 'avoid the ground telegraphs' style combat than 1 did

[naive silo]

Hestia has the funny dash that deletes projectiles and a nice mana boon imo

[echo storm]

yep

[icy lintel]

Good if you are using the sickle and dagger. Or if you want the fireball cast. Her Dash can destroy projectiles but only some of them which is hard to handle.

[lunar valley]

How do you die to cerby 💀

[tawny stag]

Her cast seems good

[naive silo]

Fire damage is kinda meh

[icy lintel]

He chases you around a lot.

[tired fulcrum]

Scorch seems eh but the hestia poseidon duo seems good

[icy lintel]

And has a lot of AOE.

[gusty lichen]

u basically do no damage before u get scorch 300

[frail jasper]

ong he has the easiest rhytm (except for hecate ofc) to get into, all his attacks feel very telegraphed and dodging puts you at a safe position to wail on him

[lunar valley]

If you stay close to his body you can always dash behind him

[simple compass]

100% opposite for me. Cerberus is probably the easiest boss for me (well, maybe other than Hecate). He's so slow and telegraphed

[fluid quail]

oh on the last phase

[echo storm]

I may be wrong, but like 15 hours in current best gods to me feel like Poseidon, Hera, and Apollo - is that the sort of general early consensus or am I way off lmao

[fluid quail]

I typically just dodge that attack

[naive silo]

One run i managed to use Hestia attack was with the twin blades and the hammer to hold down button to spam attacks lol

[tired fulcrum]

Ngl that boon seems awful since it cuts the damage in half unless you have a high rariety. At that point its just going to be worse damage than splash

[tawny stag]

Chronos is pretty hard he moves so much

[echo storm]

Then prob Zeus Aphro, and Demeter in the next tier below

[fluid quail]

poseidon by far the best god

[icy lintel]

Apollo is definitely S tier.
All his abilities are awesome.

[naive silo]

Poseidon giving copies of rewards my beloved

[lunar valley]

I tried a charon run and I don't really see the point. I feel like a normal cast build is much safer (and easier)

[gusty lichen]

by splash u mean best boon in the game

[icy lintel]

Poseidon you can always take though. I never had problems with him.

[echo storm]

Crazy how Poseidon went from bottom tier to top tier 😩

[tawny stag]

What’s a charon run

[tired fulcrum]

Yeah maybe i shouldve rephrased that, splash is really good

[frail jasper]

Poseidon is the goat for resource gathering (he even duped a selene boon once) and from my limited experience his special works great with lim and oros

[lunar valley]

Aspect for the axe weapon

[gusty lichen]

oh its only a bit worse than best boon, so its good then right?

[icy lintel]

What do you mean? Poseidon's dash was the strongest thing in the first game. Just knock enemies to the walls to death.

[simple compass]

How was Poseidon bottom tier? Splash dash was totally busted

[tawny stag]

Wait poseidon can duplicate stuff? What’s that boon called

[barren aspen]

Dang people not liking Hestia, on the daggers and staff I feel hestia attacks are op

[eager dove]

aww Born Gain (Refill Magick when empty by priming 10) doesnt work with poseidon dash??

[tired fulcrum]

Tidal dash was goated

[frail jasper]

Speaking of selene she is the best god in the game. Timestops, kamehamehas, free healing that gives you at BARE minimum 75 hp / biome, necromancy she got it all

[barren aspen]

the Scorch goes up so fast

[icy lintel]

She is awesome on daggers but it can be hit or miss.

[tired fulcrum]

Also beowulf mirage shot was literally broken

[naive silo]

Hestia is basically only useful on daggers i feel

[eager dove]

so to trigger Born Gain do I have to omega cast something I cant afford?

[echo storm]

Splash dash was crazy with the Zeus duo boon and his cast was really good too, but I still think he was prob the weakest god overall in 1? Balance was really good in that game, every god had some busted boon or combo

[gusty lichen]

i think i dont remember anythign except crit explode knuckles

[naive silo]

The rest is too slow to do much burn