h2-builds-and-combat

[long osprey]

I did one run with the torches and didn't even bother making it past Hecate

[white steppe]

aphrodite special and pray for good hammers thats all i got

[fossil matrix]

last run I did the hammer that gives +50 special damage plus aphro special and it immediately started doing 300 an orb

[tepid token]

my 4th time there and still cant find it, do i need something for it?

[white steppe]

i cleared chronos with that strat tbf

[grizzled ingot]

Torch is good if you focus things that make you cast stronger

[livid tartan]

I survived Hecate with Hestia special

[grizzled ingot]

it is reallly build and luck dependant though

[lunar valley]

I just unlocked Aspect of Eos and it's actually pretty good. Don't feel good about base torch though

[livid tartan]

Then got the hammer that makes O-Special stationary instead

[lunar valley]

No, they spawn like flowers in underground. Pure rng

[fossil matrix]

the damage is pretty absurd with the aphro special, but I dont like how much it slows you down to attack with it

[livid tartan]

and rage quit the run

[grizzled ingot]

Torches cast size is great for locking enemies inside cast while hitting them from afar but you kinda have to kite or use your cast as crowd control / area control

[timber spear]

guys, is the hammer with double attack broken? i almost got to final boss after a certain build ( i was still in the start of area 2)
Like, absurd damage

[sudden belfry]

are the aspects all applied at once or something bc i cant figure out how to switch them lol

[grizzled ingot]

everything with double attack is broken --> double attack is broken

[white steppe]

walk up to the weapon and it'll let you choose

[lunar valley]

You click on the weapon and it lets you switch

[sudden belfry]

oh gotcha

[white steppe]

my ranking:

1. twin blades
2. axe
3. staff
4. skulls
5. torches
   anyone feel differently?

[lunar valley]

What aspect on twin blades? Pan?

[white steppe]

nah i just run base and do attack builds w poseidon

[lunar valley]

Ah

[steel prawn]

is it just me or are howlers super annoying to deal with when shielded? especially using the axe

[long osprey]

Hecate defeated and I only took 11 damage, love me some ranged weapons

[sudden belfry]

oh god idk how im gonna get past ||cerberus|| its so hard

[long osprey]

Chronos better be happy I can't swear in this server /lh

[white steppe]

he did say no rude language in the house of hades

[tired fulcrum]

Axe has enough dps to quickly shred the shield unless you have no attack boon. Cast also exists and you have omega special though ig its more annoying when you have no mana regen

[lunar valley]

Mine is probably
Staff
Axe
Skull
Twin Blade
Torch

I feel like twin blades have potential (and certainly useless what I pick for cast builds since special spam is safe) but I don't really like it that much overall

[tired fulcrum]

Oh yeah special also cancels their attack

[white steppe]

i gotta question skull over twin blades

am i just bad at skulls? i feel like the weapon's bad

[tender flint]

ok i barely used this weapon but for ||aspect of circe staff|| what are the best boons and hammers and question about the staff do the omega attacks auto aim or do i have to

[clever drum]

Just had a really fun run with torches and the poseidon/hestia duo boon

[tepid token]

ok thx!

[simple compass]

Build specific, but I put a lot of value on Apollo for axe attack, and that lets you outrange them pretty well

[lunar valley]

Skull is pretty hammer dependent but once you get going you're kinda invincible (if special build) or nuke (attack build)

[white steppe]

mmm lottery

do you just jam aphro on them and shotgun everything or

[tired fulcrum]

Actually this is like 99% probably a bug

[lunar valley]

Hera or Aphro yeah

I prefer hera for special, aphro for attack

[long osprey]

My rating without having spent considerable time with some of them yet:

1. Axe (I'm a sucker for beefy attacks)
2. Skull
3. Twin blades
4. Staff
5. Torches

[white steppe]

i dont really like hera's gimmick

[tender flint]

what boons are good for staff aspect of circe

[white steppe]

you didnt really play rama for the damage sharing in h1 either

[tender flint]

my rating is

[lunar valley]

The damage difference in hera vs aphro in terms of AoE isn't that much, hera technically clears faster in mob rooms (tested with Axe spin), but it's pretty close either way so can't go wrong with aphro

[tender flint]

1. torches 2. axe 3. blades 4. staff 5. havent tried skull

[white steppe]

stopped reading after 1 torches you gotta go in arkham asylum

[tender flint]

its so good and easy

just get either posidion on attack or zues and smooth sailing

[lunar valley]

No but fr I'm in the middle of an Eos run rn and its nuking

Torch might be redeemable with Eos

[white steppe]

zeus on attack for torches? bruh

[drifting moon]

what do you aim for on Torches to make them enjoyable? every time I've tried them they haven't felt great

[white steppe]

maybe i should try eos idk i dont have the mats for it yet

[lunar valley]

Unlock Eos imo

[white steppe]

but apparently i gotta clear eris w them for the damn nightmare thing

[long osprey]

NEM APPEARANCE😍

[lunar valley]

I'm just running lvl1 Eos

[white steppe]

is eos the torch attack build or something, im just tired of doing specials and eating damage cause no hitstun

[bleak night]

Why not just pick the weapon that lets you get a Nightmare by fighting Hecate or ||Polyphemus||

[mild phoenix]

yes you do?

[white steppe]

cause i got those already

[bleak night]

Ooh, alr

[mild phoenix]

the most powerful part of rama is being able to clear a room in a few attacks

[lunar valley]

Yep your attack skulls return when you "sprint" which also triggers on dash. You basically play it like fists by holding attack and dashing, but with aphro attack instead of zeus and you nuke

[long osprey]

I let her stab me for a juicy centaur heart

[summer seal]

What boons and hammers are y'all finding most useful with the twin blades?

[white steppe]

poseidon attack, static shock, fish for zeus/heph zeus/poseidon duo, whatever attack hammers you get

[drifting moon]

I really enjoyed the bouncing knives + returning knives with Zeus and Poseidon, was really great at clearing rooms quickly

[white steppe]

support fire's also pretty nice if you get it

[tender flint]

is aphro good on staff?

barelly used it

[mild phoenix]

aphro Oattack is decent

[undone talon]

oops sorry wrong channel

[tender flint]

whats best staff boons hestia or posideion maybe

im trying to learn it

[lunar valley]

Special? Both are fine, though I don't really like special build on staff. Attack just feels so much nicer

[tender flint]

got it k

[long osprey]

Solar Ring + Glowing Coal goes so hard bro

Just melted through Scylla and the sirens

[lunar valley]

Cast boons are very strong yeah, pretty safe too once you get any of the multiple "aim the cast from afar" boons

[fluid quail]

Poseidon special with double attack hammer is super nice

[long osprey]

I feel like it weighs up for the fact that the skulls can be a little slow, especially with the auto retrieve option, a strong cast provides much needed crowd control and juicy juicy dps

[lunar valley]

Okay this Eos run is going too good. Phased through cerby in.. 8 seconds?

[fluid quail]

umbral flames seem terrible what do y’all use

[lunar valley]

Don't have suggestions for base aspect but I highly recommend aspect of eos

[runic yoke]

Is this intended or a bug for a Shell weapon build? I cannot get 0 Mana omega attack from Possessed Array.
First weapon modifier (Fetching Array) automatically returns Shells but you have -1.
Second (Possessed Array) Your Shells fire Omega attack for 0 Mana whenever retrieved.

[silver musk]

i think i. i think i accidentally made a build where i practically can't die

[lunar valley]

Do share

[long osprey]

Gonna pause this run and continue tomorrow cause it's 3am and I am beat

[simple jasper]

Aspect of Moros also slaps from what I've heard

Base aspect you just want aphro or poseidon special

[lunar valley]

Will try it. Eos has got me pretty hyped to play the torches more

[simple jasper]

I need to try Eos, farming the stuff to unlock it now

[lunar valley]

Good luck! Get aphro attack and play it like fists. Should chew through health bars

[wheat lagoon]

The skull is a good weapon?

[silver musk]

lemme check the names hang on

[sand shadow]

What's the opinions on the Axe? I've been enjoying using it so far

[simple jasper]

The skull is weird, still trying to figure out which builds are good on it

Biggest issue with the skulls is that they can go to unretrievable spots on the second zone

[lunar valley]

Hammer dependent but strong

[wheat lagoon]

What weapon is the best one so far?

[simple jasper]

Axe slaps

Charon axe is amazing if you get Apollo or Poseidon omega cast buffs and then a good special buff. I did a super easy full clear with Zeus special and Apollo cast earlier

[silver musk]

• engraved pin
• moon water + upgrades to heal extra health
• death defiance (of course)
• wayward son + unseen
• final slice (not sure if it contributes much but i think it's cool as hell)

[rare phoenix]

THE SKULL IS SM FUN

[wet nova]

Eos is nice if you get a % dmg boon on attack and also get hammers that make attack omega cheaper

[sand shadow]

Icic. I've been enjoying it, though I've noticed unless you have specific boons, you run the risk of getting caught in animations very frequently. Namely in ||Oceanus|| with the ||pinheads||

Demeter works really well for it if you get the basic attack freeze buff

[simple jasper]

Personal preference tbh, all of them seem to have viable builds

I'm a huge fan of Pan aspect Sister Blades since you have like 4 or 5 viable hammer rolls for it

Charon Axe is a ton of fun

Poseidon special spam staff is really good but you're pretty reliant on getting the right hammer upgrades

Heard really good things about both wand aspects

I want to try and make Medea skull work against my better judgement

[lunar valley]

I wanna try the axe but chaos refuses to drop dark 💀

[fluid quail]

pan is G O A T E D

I was so sad for no chiron, and then I realized we have chiron at home

[simple jasper]

Pan sister blades is great even at rank 1, and gets nuts as you rank up the aspect. Even more fun if you get the hammer upgrade that launches even more projectiles in a circle when you omega special

I'd say that's probably my most consistent weapon, slightly edging out special spam staff since you're not as hammer upgrade reliant

[fluid quail]

I don’t like that upgrade early

[simple jasper]

Yeah, but as your second hammer upgrade it's great

[fluid quail]

It misses too many shots

[simple jasper]

Won't miss shots if you're using Pan

[lunar valley]

Posted my eos run in #h2-victory-boasting

[fluid quail]

|| I’m trying with that build on the surface and it’s clunky ||

[simple jasper]

But the nice thing about Pan Sister Blades is you have multiple viable hammer options, vs. special spam staff where you're praying you get doubled projectiles

[fluid quail]

the staff doesn’t seem that good without Poseidon

[zenith wigeon]

I was so close to beating chronos! I was running a Descura build with heavy leaning into scorch attack, cast hepahastus, and damage reduction and had 357 hp. Unfortunately messed up and got a death defiance insta taken out. It was a good showing too! I hope in later updates theres a way to see previous run builds because man, that was a victory build if i didnt mess up

[long osprey]

Still dwelling on the fact that I haven’t gotten the aspects incantation yet… feels like it must be a bug or something

[simple jasper]

I don't remember what triggers it, have you unlocked all of the weapons etc.?

[stoic ridge]

anyone figure out effective builds for the skull?

[simple jasper]

I kind of want to try Medea skull with Aphro attack

[long osprey]

Unlocked all weapons, done a run with all weapons (soon), etc

[lunar valley]

Aphro attack + hammer that shoots all skulls at once for attack build

Hera/Aphro special + hammer that doubles special damage if special build

[split igloo]

Apollo/aph attack with aspect of medea is really strong

[long osprey]

Apparently Hecate gives you the incantation after defeating her but I definitely haven’t gotten it and I’ve definitely beaten her enough times

[stoic ridge]

really? medea felt horrid to use cause of the 3 second delay

[split igloo]

If you special into enemies it instantly detonates

[stoic ridge]

ohhhhh, didnt know that

[split igloo]

It doesnt say it anywhere. I found it accidentally while testing the moves on schelemius

[simple jasper]

Yeah, it's whole thing is you stack 3 skulls then special into someone

But it's hard to figure it out since the text on the aspect just says "3 seconds or move into an enemy" or something

[lunar valley]

Complicated beowulf you mean

[stoic ridge]

tool tips need a bit of time to fix

i was so confused by the charon axe, i thought "cleave" only meant the special attack and not just all damage while in your cast

[fluid quail]

Oh lmao I thought the same thing

[stoic ridge]

had to use it on skelly a bit to figure that out

[lunar valley]

What does charon do again

[stoic ridge]

makes your cast last longer and more damage to enemies in cast, also your special detonates the cast

[north salmon]

Anyone know if Double Strike can double the Chain Lightning effect from Zeus's "prime" boon? (Double Strike's text is "Your lightning bolt effects may strike 1 more time.")

[lunar valley]

Ignoring special, for a pure case build does it increase the damage?

[simple jasper]

No, lightning bolts and chain lightning are separate

[wicked portal]

Anyone know max grasp?

[fluid quail]

speaking of Zeus

[north salmon]

This is the worst day of my life 😂 Thank you though!

[fluid quail]

Does anyone else think he feels TERRIBLE

[lunar valley]

No

[fluid quail]

It’s just a worse ares

[stoic ridge]

his blitz feels bad

why use him when you can do even more damage with hestia, and even hestia is underwhelming a bit

[simple jasper]

I've had some good luck with Blitz on some builds

Worked well for me with Charon axe using Zeus special

[white vessel]

who? zeus?

[lunar valley]

Zeus is much the same like in hades 1, you need to get a ton of his boons. When you do they all synergize well and he absolutely shreds

[fluid quail]

Yea

[white vessel]

im freaky for burst damage so i like it

[simple jasper]

The chain lightning boons are all great, getting the primed chain lightning boon on sister blades is amazing, no matter which build you're going

[lunar valley]

I decided to get chain lightning for my eos run too

[fluid quail]

I disagree Zeus in H1 felt good even on 2 boons

[simple jasper]

Blitz does have the benefit of being easy to apply and count for your arcana that gives you more damage to enemies with 2+ curse effects

[lunar valley]

I guess you're right. The floor of the damage was higher in hades1 but I think the ceiling is slightly higher here

[cursive knot]

Speaking of Charon axe it feels super fun with apollo cast

[simple jasper]

Apollo cast is great with it, Poseidon cast is also good

[distant root]

finally got 3 death defiance, not including tooth

[cursive knot]

Haven't tried poseidon with it yet maybe will go for that next

[golden flare]

can you get the same boon back after burnt offering?

[summer seal]

Damn, how does one manage that?

[distant root]

upgrade the card that gives you it twice

[lunar valley]

I love how the skulls are just an embodiment of hades1 cast builds 💀

[runic birch]

they're insanely strong

the special with poseidon's wave boon is a free stun lock, and it's mental for dps

[distant root]

i think aspect of moros can be set up to be a huge burst build

[distant root]

which aspect?

[white vessel]

WHEN DO YOU unlock aspects

[distant root]

||beat chronos once then beat hecate again||

[runic birch]

n/a, haven't gotten there yet

[white vessel]

aha!

[eager dove]

oof do the eyeball throw boys need to both be homing and always throw in your direction even if they have to 180 to do it

[simple swan]

So, what're some of the better gods/boons for the staff?

[ripe temple]

||beat hecate once with each weapon||

not sure what the other person is on lol

[sudden belfry]

best staff boons?

[wanton leaf]

I'm a little confused on how Blitz actually works

[cursive knot]

I forget the numbers but once you apply it and then do x amount of damage it procs for an additional burst.

[simple jasper]

Staff builds are really hammer dependent, you want to go either attack or special depending on what you get

Poseidon special is god tier if you can get the "double projectiles" hammer though

[white vessel]

how do i get the skull weapon

[simple jasper]

TBH the only real issue with Blitz is the delay before it goes off, so even if you can apply and trigger another in that time, you don't

[simple jasper]

Go up to the surface instead of down, different materials up there, you need to do the incantation to unlock it

[ripe temple]

i believe get the rest of them

[runic birch]

I usually run blitz on my more curse-heavy builds, since it gives solid damage after a few seconds and gives an opening to jab at other enemies
but it's pretty mediocre against bosses, in my experience

[distant root]

poseidon special and double special hammer is literally all you need for a win

[runic birch]

best boon pair I've run so far was getting Artemis' seeking arrows on a bouncing projectile build

huge single target, even better crowd control

[simple jasper]

I like blitz on the Charon axe build, on my special

Since generally the explosion from the cast will then trigger blitz, and setting it up again takes enough time for blitz to reapply and go off again the next time you do it

[cursive knot]

had one run where blitz felt really nice after getting aphrodite duo boon with it and had it pretty pommed up, other runs havent made it work as well

[runic birch]

yeah, it's not the most reliable to work with

[simple jasper]

Blitz can also be a nice alternative to Hephaestus on builds where you have either an attack or special you're not going to be using much

Can hit something once and then go back to spamming your other thing and get some extra damage

Really the main advantage of doing blitz for that is getting more Zeus boons later though 😂

[summer seal]

What boons pair well with the axe?

[fossil matrix]

aphro attack is pretty beastly on the axe

[iron pivot]

you can unlock it but it's not detailed

[simple jasper]

Depends on aspect

Aphro, Demeter, and Apollo are the best for the strike in general

If you're going Charon axe, you want Poseidon or Apollo cast

Hephaestus is good for special on regular axe, but I'd go with Zeus, Demeter, or Aphro for the Charon one

Charon axe also likes getting Zeus or Hestia to be able to throw your cast

I want to try a Charon axe build with the Hephaestus + Poseidon duo boon and Poseidon cast, seems legit

If you're not going Charon, Demeter also gives you good stuff for scaling your omega attack, which is a solid option

[rancid garnet]

oh i think im starting something here...

[simple jasper]

Apollo + Demeter is a good combo in general for Charon axe most likely, since their duo boon scales your omega cast the more you use it

[rancid garnet]

Axe Aphrodite Strike With Apollo's double hit chance and hepastus dash

[simple jasper]

You said Aphro strike axe, so you're automatically off to a good start

[ripe temple]

is demeter worth it for sisters?

[rancid garnet]

Zeus for sisters imo

[ripe temple]

artemis sisters specifcailly?

[rancid garnet]

i dont remember what Artemis effect does

[ripe temple]

the parry into 50 crit chance when you aprry

[rancid garnet]

Melinoe Sisters better imo

[simple jasper]

Demeter cast is worth it for Pan since it freezes enemies while you charge your special

Even better if you can get the demeter "Cyclone on your cast" on top of Aphro or Hestia cast so you can trigger double curse + enemy in cast damage bonus arcana at the same time

[ripe temple]

huh why is cyclone on cast good?

[simple jasper]

It doesn't use up your cast slot and it applies a curse effect, so if you use it along with one of the casts that applies a different curse, you can trigger the arcana easily

Then you use Pan omega special to wreck things

[ripe temple]

whats the arcana do

[bleak night]

bonus damage to targets suffering at least two status curses

[hot citrus]

since when did hecate have lasers HUH

[ripe temple]

its like h1 where the more you beat the boss mroe variants there is

[eager dove]

so, how does hestia dash, work exactly

[white vessel]

how do you get shadow

[ripe temple]

||from what i seen you craft it but forgot how you unlock the ability||

[simple jasper]

||Incantation pot second tab opens up once you have a recipe that needs it||

[simple jasper]

You need to be sprinting, so hold down space, and it'll delete nearby projectiles and scorch enemies

[eager dove]

ah well I havent tried it much and ||Eris|| just shot me dead while I was sprinting with her first bullet haha

[simple jasper]

It's fine, there's one particularly annoying boss that it basically invalidates, but I don't see much other reason to use it

I'd rather have Apollo or Aphrodite on my dash slot since their apply a curse and work off just dashing, not sprinting

[ripe temple]

i just noticed why zues for sisters?

[eager dove]

I assume thats the same boss, I thought id be safe from the projectiles and I very much was not

[ripe temple]

whose ||eris|| again?

[simple jasper]

Chain lightning primed boon is amazing, especially if you can get the Heph + Zeus duo boon

[simple jasper]

||Second boss of the surface||

[ripe temple]

i need a arcana for duo boons right?

[simple jasper]

No, the arcana just makes them more likely

[ripe temple]

ah ok

[eager dove]

I feel like this was the exact circumstance hestia dash shouldve protected me but I just died instead

[ripe temple]

chain lightnihng is that for special for attack sisters

[granite sierra]

alright so aspect of pan is completely broken

[eager dove]

this is why I never trust "get hit on purpose" mechanics in games like this

[simple jasper]

Either one, it triggers on attack and special hits and adds a lot of flat damage + some aoe

[tall notch]

Has anyone tried the arcana that activates only when you have 3 or less other cards active? I'm wondering if it could be a viable way of playing with some weapons

[lunar valley]

Doesn't seem worth it

[ripe temple]

what arcanas do you guys use

[tired fulcrum]

I like rerolling

[tall notch]

I tried it in 0 heat once but only got it at level 1 and some of the other arcanas it gave me weren't levelled so I died to the final boss 😦

[ripe temple]

heats in the game? thats like ng+ right?

[bleak night]

just noticed that we can't pull up the Night Book to read up on Duo Boon requirements as we're on the boon selection screen ?

It was a thing I relied on a bit in Hades I, so I should probs put that on the Feedback channel

[hot citrus]

my streak of living on one the first time i beat a boss continues

[runic birch]

idk, it forces you to disable some really solid cards

[lunar valley]

I haven't even gotten to the point where you see all the boons the gods have

[bleak night]

ah, it's an incantation you unlock eventually

[tall notch]

It's called something else I can't remember right now but yes it's added already

[zenith bolt]

fear

[ripe temple]

Huh interesting didnt know

How you get to that point? And what does it add other then it being harder?

[fossil matrix]

alright demeter attack and hera special on the skull has been by far the easiest mob rooms and the hardest boss rooms so far

like 20 minute boss fights out here

[ripe temple]

I feel like skulls you gotta put the attention onto omega specials or something

[cursive knot]

aspect of pan with the right hammers/chaos boosting specials feels so insanely nice

[tall notch]

You get || bounties that give a pretty important resource ||

[ripe temple]

Or that second aspect might make it better

[fossil matrix]

yeah the omega special seems pretty strong, makes sense its good to go into

[ripe temple]

||this isnt the chaos trials right?|| also how do we use the resource we get from the ||trials||?

[minor garden]

poseidon > apollo for staff special build?

[stoic ridge]

thats how i beat chronos

[ripe temple]

I heard aphro really good for sisters

[tall notch]

|| These bounties are a different thing than the trials ||

[ripe temple]

Got it

[hot citrus]

no yeah

[ripe temple]

Is that a no yeah as in no or no yeah as ye it is

[modern yacht]

Which hammer is best for skulls? Is return skulls good?

[tawny stag]

Is the surface path unlockable yet? Like playable in early access

[modern yacht]

Yes it's an incantation. Don't know if it is fully complete though

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237957655692050512/image.png?ex=663d8969&is=663c37e9&hm=12beaf0b5f045546d9707c961dc630f563d0b834deb5005454e0d1ffce1340e1& IT'S PAYING OFF AAAAAAA

[elder dove]

Not fully complete. Can get through a few bosses then you get a little narration and a popup saying it's in development

[wet nova]

What guardians would even count for this other than the bosses

[ripe temple]

Wait does that keep proccing?

[tawny stag]

Sweet thanks! Do we know if arcana is going to replace mirror completely or will there be another mirror equivalent

[ripe temple]

So after you kill 2nd boss 5 more?

[bleak night]

it keeps proccing, yeah. I got +15 off the three bosses I've fought

[tawny stag]

I’m guessing minibuses?

[wet nova]

Arcana is probably mirror replacement, it has nearly everything the mirror has and more/some less

[ripe temple]

Does it also grab the ones you havent unlocked yet?

[simple jasper]

minibosses aren't guardians

[wet nova]

The only one I can think of where it has a name is octopus

The rest don’t have red hp on top of screen

[bleak night]

unsure, this is the last one I unlocked

[ripe temple]

||uh-oh|| as well has a name

[bleak night]

I think just the inactive ones are given to you post-fight

[ripe temple]

Got it

[wet nova]

You combine this arcana card with the keepsake to max out maybe

[wheat lagoon]

How do you unlock the aspects?

[wet nova]

Play the game naturally should come in cauldron

[ripe temple]

If you want to know ||beat first boss with all weapons then you get the incantation||

[wet nova]

Oh is that it

I wonder who’d even keep track of that tbh😂

[zenith bolt]

oh ok the testaments jump from 4 to 12 fear needed

that's quite a jump ngl though i do quite enjoy not needing to slog through every number

[wet nova]

the fears in this game are more harsh than hades 1 tbf

Like idk why but tight deadline feels much more difficult to take

Because there’s a lot of things that can extend your run duration

[civic lake]

Demeter has a boon that boosts Ωattacks by a % for a higher cost
Is there a similar boon for Ωspecials?

[zenith bolt]

i got a run earlier where i literally didn't get a single demeter boon for like 2 entire goddamn areas and thus i only got weed killer right at the end

[wet nova]

Like just the last stage of main map i had like 4 rooms before I went from II to I

[zenith bolt]

not joking, literally inflated my run time by 10 minutes

rng moment

[glossy rivet]

Do attack and special boons affect omega damage?

[bleak night]

Sorry the low FPS, my windows recording thing has caps ig https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778505838003879938/1237958838804807690/Hades_II_2024-05-09_10-45-40.mp4?ex=663d8a83&is=663c3903&hm=15c8bf4083331c6511e84a91b6a69ffd1a66264110ab4c43f5c6e4c52e9a1752
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[wet nova]

If it says “attacks” or “specials”

[zenith bolt]

what i do like about the testaments is that it's just "beat this boss" and not "finish an entire run"

so even though the vows are harsher than heat was to some extent, you don't have to necessarily be as good at the game anyway

[tall notch]

The game's pacing is slower in general with the more tactical approach to combat it feels like. I've been using the time slow down a lot and it does drag s run out

[zenith bolt]

yea the timer not slowing when you use a time-slowing effect def hurts

[wet nova]

Yh I turned timer off for myself so I don’t feel bad for taking extra time with everything 😂

[ripe temple]

I mean it makes sense the timer doesnt slow down

[wet nova]

It’s cos it says you slow everything down around you but ofcourse you yourself aren’t

Also if you could slow timer could do chronos mega quick😂

[round owl]

it mostly depends on what weapon/boons you use. there is some builds that are extremely fast at clearing stuff still

[wild pine]

Seems like a gimmick for stream content or a self-challenge mode IMO. By the time you get into the 4th area you'd have 12 cards active -- but you can probbly activate 12 cards manually from the beginning if you want.

The real problem with random arcana mechanics (and there are some other ways to activate random bonus cards mid run) is that a lot of the arcana give you drip feeds of value over time. There's really no point getting + a few HP per chamber, or +% boon rarity, or whatever when your run is half over and your core boons are all locked in

[split igloo]

You can upgrade the cards. When that arcana is fulling upgraded you get 5 per guardian, giving you 23 by chronos. At this point you would have 1 random card not active.

[wild pine]

Hmm. That's a lot more appealing ... but still probably worse than playing normally. Again because if you want to take boon rerolls, rarity, bonus gold, passive MP regen, etc., those are all more impactful the sooner they come online

[distant root]

anyone know how to get ||dark|| for ||aspect of thanatos||?

[wild pine]

Wait, also, wouldn't it be 18 by big C?

[round owl]

yeh upgraded dodge arcana is pretty funny

[wild pine]

At some point I startd being able to harvest it by hand in Chaos rooms. I think it was after messing with the chaos stone but I'm not sure

[distant root]

ahhh that makes sense, ty

[split igloo]

Right yeah, you get it after killing the guardian...

[wild pine]

Does anyone else find it extremely fiddly and not worthwhile to get the pet cat to attack stuff? I easily lose track of her in a fight and then sometimes dashing right through her fails to proc anyway. (Sometimes it's cause I forget to wait for the aura). The only real reason I can see to take her is if you want to shed the frog HP to exploit low-HP mechanics

[bleak night]

I think Blitz wasn't a very good choice for it, but it's still fun. ||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778505838003879938/1237965931989438485/Pan_run.mp4?ex=663d911e&is=663c3f9e&hm=6f3e0ed42302cc7c6b3ebf8363e862abf5438009c8668e6c3b654f327d054c9f||

[storm creek]

are there any absolutely braindead bds that could get me past Chronos? its been 30 runs no luck furthest ive gone is half of his second phase

[stoic ridge]

poseidon special spam on the staff with apollo sprint

[proper cedar]

Chronos tool me 47 runs to beat. But for me my favourite build is charon axe with apolo

[storm creek]

closest run i think was poseidon special on witch's staff but playing that build again would probably break my mouse im ngl

[stoic ridge]

thats how i did it at least, with the double special hammer too

[round owl]

chaos keepsake into a good epic boon before you change the keepsake might help as well

[proper cedar]

Also special hammers to get it faster

[simple jasper]

At this point I find Chronos less rippy than ||Eris, that fight might need to be tuned a bit||

[proper cedar]

Also if you have died to chronos and used up your skelly death defiance, use nemesis keepsake for extra damage

And a good lunar ray will do the trick

[round owl]

any multihit hammer or boon on the staff melts stuff up as well. coupled with artemis arrow on attack

[proper cedar]

Also torch with support fire is pretty funny

[zinc mural]

Is it better to go for more boons or poms

[round owl]

yeah that keepsake helps too

[proper cedar]

Moros torch preferably tbh

[round owl]

depends on build

[zinc mural]

Upgrade existing key boons or more boons overall?

on average

[round owl]

i'd say boon. if they are good

[bleak night]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237968693842022410/image.png?ex=663d93b0&is=663c4230&hm=4c6449a434f1dff11b2bfa679a10cc5cd3e3c7e50217206ff7b4dc3dec40b462&|| You can get up to 5, dear god

[cursive knot]

Aspect of pan with good hammer luck and omega special melted him the two runs i did with hit

[simple jasper]

Depends on your build, if you're playing something that abuses Poseidon special, or Charon axe, which have a few key boons, you'll want to rank that up

[proper cedar]

Yeah lmao

[zinc mural]

Do you ever get back a second dash ever? :c

[round owl]

there's some really stupid stuff in the game. like that boon that negates damage for the first? like 10 seconds?

[proper cedar]

Thats how i beat chronos lol

[bleak night]

no lol

[zinc mural]

AAAAAAAAAAAH

[simple jasper]

Barely even need good hammer luck, you need any 2 of like 4-5 good hammers for special builds 😂

[zinc mural]

I have to actually TIME my dashes and LEARN combat patterns? smh

[simple jasper]

Have fun with that too, the bosses in this are more complicated fights from the get go pattern wise than H1 had

At least that's how it feels to me

[cursive knot]

true, with last run i got 3 special hammers using the keepsake and it was nutty

[zinc mural]

Honestly I found the bosses in H2 easier so far

[proper cedar]

Also black dress melinoë with thanatos aspect axe is iconic lmfao

[zinc mural]

I think it's because there's more long range options

hephaestus + special spam has been my main builds usually

[proper cedar]

Anyone else get whichever dress goes with their weapon better lmfao

[round owl]

the only real move you have to be aware of is the one where if you're not staying in the tiny circle, chronos fully takes one of your death defiance iirc

in phase 2

[proper cedar]

Also anyone else can't keep armour on?

[simple jasper]

I have yet to test if the damage from that can be stopped by the Demeter infusion boon that caps all damage you take at 15 if you have enough earth

[proper cedar]

Also the time stop bubbles are annoying

[round owl]

oh that,s a nice idea lol

[round owl]

yeah they can be annoying

[simple jasper]

I actually had that infusion on a successful run, but I'm pretty sure that was my run with Charon axe where I just obliterated him, and I just did the mechanic normally

[proper cedar]

I love that melinoë has NO chill when speaking to chronos

Especially the first win conversation

[tropic cargo]

is it just me or is the duo boon of zeus aphrodeitis completly broken

[plain marten]

I just got it on the run I'm currently playing and it seems pretty sweet

[proper cedar]

||mel: now die, chron: I'll kill your family, mel: idk die||

[proper cedar]

What does it do?

[tropic cargo]

I just finished a run with it and didnt even use a single dd

[simple jasper]

The only gods with chill are Dionysus and Hypnos, one of them isn't in this game, and one of them is being a bit too chill

[proper cedar]

Lmao

[nimble estuary]

I did an Artemis run with no attack hammers and then a pan run with no special hammers

[tropic cargo]

when u dash into enemys that have the clound above them they instatly trigger and deal 200% dmg

[simple jasper]

Some of the duos are pretty sweet in this game

Zeus + Hephaestus is also great, it makes your chain lightnings able to bounce of you and hit a target again

[tropic cargo]

the enemy needs to be weakend(apro dash)

[nimble estuary]

Still probably could've won the Artemis one but flubbed it pretty bad

[proper cedar]

Merciful end but different gods?

[tropic cargo]

yeah

[plain marten]

I'm hoping it serves me well, I haven't completed a run yet down below

[proper cedar]

I wanna se what athena ares and Dionysus will do

[tropic cargo]

I wasnt even on daggers i was on staff

[plain marten]

On staff as well rn

Was planning on just pressing Y but here are having to adapt 😂

[proper cedar]

Calls or selene better?

[tropic cargo]

calls tbh

the star path is neat though

half the hexes are useless in bosses

[proper cedar]

A good starpath ray, also moonwater

[plain marten]

It's wild just building up moonwater uses from fountains throughout the run

[wild pine]

I love wolf howl and then phase shift is my second fave

[proper cedar]

Phase shift is the transformation one?

[simple jasper]

Have they said they'll be adding those? Dio's DoT schtick was kind of replaced with Hestia, Apollo does a lot of Athena stuff, and Zeus seems to have taken on a bit of Ares' stuff

[wild pine]

with selene keepsake you can get some busted buff-shredding wolf howl builds that are very safe

[wild pine]

no, but I forget about the transform. That's also in my top 3 : the jump, the time slow, and the transform

[proper cedar]

They did say that ALL gods are back along with new ones

[wild pine]

actually because chronos ignores the time slow the transform is better

[simple jasper]

Hex top 3 without including the heal one that gives you 5 fountain uses a stage smh

[proper cedar]

For me is lunar ray, moonwater, darkside

[edgy karma]

Hera's cast buff (engagement ring) is great in Hecate's fight. The on-spawn damage it deals helps you manage her spawns and can help narrow down her true form. The ring will shoot the fakes and the one that it doesn't hit is her

[proper cedar]

Also aphros glamour gain will go to the real one

" a foe is always weak, recover magick when near them"

[lunar valley]

Selena has potential, should see some tweaks

[timid marsh]

TBH, I vastly prefer calls

[tall notch]

I adore Selena. Pretty much every one of them feels good to use if you find a full moon one early

[timid marsh]

I think my problem is that Hexes are a very self contained mechanic

To my knowledge, Hades 2 doesn't have anything like the Zeus + Aphrodite duo from H1 or boons like Billowing Strength and whatnot

[modern yacht]

Skull+ special return hammer + demeter just brought me to chronos for the first time

[lunar valley]

Nice

[timid marsh]

The only boon I've seen interact with Hexes is Hermes' boon that reduces Hex cooldown

[modern yacht]

Almost won, also creature summon hex went crazy

[tall notch]

I'm getting the impression that they gave every boss fight some adds just because of that hex

[modern yacht]

Probably, rat wizards went foolish

[tall notch]

Ressing one of the syrens feels incredibly rewarding

[modern yacht]

I think the run would've been 10x worse if I didn't get the hammer so early

[eager dove]

I'm kinda scareed that my best strategy mighht just be to nearly ignore my weapon every run in favor of casts, because that sounds like it will get old fast

but dropping a giant nuke behind you while moving compares so favorably comparfed to standing still to omega the weapons

[modern yacht]

Ngl I think major god balancing is in order cause right now it feels like demeter>all

[stoic ridge]

funee aphrodite on melee weapons

i just think blitz needs a bit of a balance pass and maybe hera for bosses, hera boons are oddly very specific and seem to never help much

[tall notch]

Doesn't every god have some kind of powerful build? And we haven't even seen many duos yet

[modern yacht]

Hitting skull special with frost back and forth on bosses is so much fun

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237975566280298538/image.png?ex=663d9a17&is=663c4897&hm=247f0c6bd64c5c816574f41c5bed90ee81bcf20c44ef6da1491f3641e3a3d894&

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Imagine I still lost

[stoic ridge]

no sprint i see

[random dust]

@distant root theres a hammer keepsake?

[bleak night]

yes

[distant root]

wait why did i get pinged

also there is???

[bleak night]

It lasts you 20 encounters at max rank, so you can run it on the 3rd area's start and have it be pretty much permanent throughout

[modern yacht]

Doesn't it only last for like 8 encounters though

[random dust]

someone upstairs i guess?

[bleak night]

20 at max rank

[distant root]

ohhh i think i have that one

[bleak night]

Yep,someone from upstairs

[modern yacht]

I wish it wasn't encounter based, or at least made normal hammers more likely or something

[random dust]

was supposed to be reply to that lol maybe i tap wrong person

[queen charm]

zeus/hera duo is booboo

[stone ledge]

Huh I haven't tried a casting build and have gotten super OP wins with the Aspect of Charon and the Aspect of Madea

[bleak night]

This doesn't seem very legal but alr https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778505838003879938/1237976928699551744/Momus.mp4?ex=663d9b5c&is=663c49dc&hm=673bae8ceb2e768e7ee8e833ee540221aff98fbfdfcff66ac3942ed9d9055a71

[queen charm]

WTH is that

[split igloo]

Def agree about blitz, but hera is kind of busted. Born gain is the best Magick boon in the game, and hitch is really strong. I do agree that alot of her non slot boons seem to actively hurt you though

[bleak night]

I'll show the boons after the run, hold on

[stone ledge]

That's funny that you say that because I love Hera and Zeus

My win against fear 16 Chronos was with that combo and the Charon axe

[dreamy stag]

ill have to make use of demeter boons before they get nerfed

[stone ledge]

and he got slapped

[desert shell]

Best Duo for Hestia?

[stone ledge]

Wdym duo boon for the first boss?

[desert shell]

Not hecate, hestia

[stone ledge]

OO my bad lol

[hazy bridge]

who has water boons that i can double up wtih poseidon on? it seems like zeus/aphro have air, apollo/hestia/hephaestus fire, hephaestus for earth, but poseidon is the only water

i haven't unlocked hera. does she have a lot of water later?

[steep musk]

seems this channel ought to allow pasting images, id like to paste an image of my boons lol

[fair sentinel]

Demeter has some. Aphrodite also has a couple if I remember correctly.

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237978636208836639/image.png?ex=663d9cf3&is=663c4b73&hm=fa73451eedf7a535d981b594acd5d5dae05f351ffda25b39f9d3e2ada74f9ae6& Here's the build for it, I barely used the healing thing since I just spammed the special button like my life depended on it. I also have 6 death defiances left lmao

[queen charm]

ok I see

[dreamy stag]

thank you for the info

[bleak night]

post it into a different channel, maybe your private server, then grab the link and paste it here

it's a workaround that the mods allow

[steep musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810651277280149534/1237978115037331627/SPOILER_image.png?ex=663d9c77&is=663c4af7&hm=dcbd856f64cd56b3188c3bfa7d69a245d2f4f2ec6bc75150ebd5c9fec1ca5d22&

my first OP combo!

local climate and lucid gain is just crazy

[bleak night]

so like

I think I'll main both the Axe and the Wand at this point just because of Momus

[mint cedar]

soot sprint destroys every eris attack

[ornate sapphire]

im really bad with axe, seems like wand and blades are easiest to play

[mint cedar]

it's crazy

[bleak night]

you need some tips on it ?

[ornate sapphire]

not gonna say no to that

since i play whatever has grave buff always

[bleak night]

hmm, I wanna do an Axe run rn. You wanna watch ?

[mint cedar]

did y'all know that circe can upgrade the DD tarot card and give you a max of 4 DDs

[bleak night]

idk if my stream quality will be any good though, but worth a shot

[ornate sapphire]

sure why not

[stone ledge]

Does anyone enjoy the torches? I've tried them a few times and they feel so weird

[dreamy stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912461842641723462/1237980629673578527/image0.jpg?ex=663d9ece&is=663c4d4e&hm=82591c10dfcc4834d63b3b69693593a2fca824aa6d828a7a3f47c6b9d9a36890&

felt like it had promise just need to tweak it a little bit

[cursive knot]

holy cow staff with apollo legendary with the hammer that makes omega attack hit twice is insane

made chronos very easy

each omega attack was hitting over 2k

[desert shell]

How do you unlock weapon levels?

[modern yacht]

Unlock all the weapons, use all the weapons(I think?), beat hecate

[supple leaf]

you have to unlock all the weapons, once you have you have to beat hecate. This could take some time though because if there is more important dialoge qued up for her to say (thinks that have to happen at certain times) she will go through those first. So it could still take a few runs before she pops the diaglog to give you the aspects. Once you can do weapon aspects, you can then level them up as well

[vital pendant]

Yea staff with the omega hit twice hammer upgrade is nutty. The staff is in general has been my favorite so far, i love the omega attack so much lol

[cursive knot]

realized how cracked it was that run, took a while to get going but insane at the end

[vital pendant]

Yea i was able to beat ||chronos|| for the first time with that build and killed ||Eris|| first try with that build too

[pearl imp]

anyone have a build for max damage ?

[river shore]

do you guys prefer double up or ocean's bounty?

[stone ledge]

depends on when its offered

[river shore]

i got it before 1st boss

[stone ledge]

double up

[river shore]

thanks so much!

[stone ledge]

yup just think about it like how many times does this potentially get to proc stage mid stage 3-4 you probably aren't going to get much lol

One thing I've noticed is that chain lightning will sometimes stop proccing mid fight for some reason

[shrewd mantle]

Do duos still require the main boons like strike, special, cast, sprint, or do they work with any? I'm useless without the book lol

[cursive knot]

depends on boon

[worldly oriole]

How does the axe special work? Do you have to time it perfectly to get the block

[shrewd mantle]

Is there a way to see requirements in game or on the Internet? I can't find much on duo requirements at all

[stone ledge]

Not sure about duos. Axe will block what's in front of you if it can be blocked during its cast, you don't have to time it really other than having it up when something would hit you.

@shrewd mantle Mistah the wiki's are barren right now I checked earlier

[mint mauve]

should i save my newly found moondust for 2 death defiances or do you all have any other recommendations

[stone ledge]

death defiance is good

[ember lintel]

we are working on the new wiki right now, it will take some time, but looks promising already.

[stone ledge]

I can help add to it I've no lifed this game since it launched on steam lol

[final moon]

Is it just me or is there a tiny delay between when you dodge and when you actually dodge?

[ember lintel]

#self-promotion message Would like any help we can get 😄

[grand gale]

does aspect of || persephone work? i dont seem to notice any changes||

[sudden belfry]

abt to face off against ||chronos|| for the first time, pls gimme tips

[grand gale]

u going to die

[tawny stag]

Sirens have so much hp

[grand gale]

||dodge into him on his swings, keep distance when ur not sure of what hes gonna do||

[hard musk]

actual tip ||most of his attacks hit clockwise||

[tawny stag]

I had builds that melt rooms but I just can’t beat the sirens. So much bullet spam and they are tanky af

[hard musk]

if you group up the sirens and AoE them then they'll also melt

[bronze summit]

the arcana card that ||lets you only have 3 selected cards but gives you three random ones after each boss.|| is it worth using? if so ||which 3 should i pick?||

[mint cedar]

the torches are really really strong

[hard musk]

you can upgrade ||it to be 5 cards per biome at which point I think it's barely worth it? Although I haven't tried it so I don't know if other 0 cost cards count (if so you'll be stuck with the duo boon card as one of them)||

[bronze summit]

||it doesn’t count the 0 cost ones so it’s better (thankfully)||

[bronze summit]

i think torches are the best weapon by like a lot. torches + hestia was cooking especially with the daed hammer that makes omega attack cost 2. you just hold attack and melt enemies, especially with something like zeus or hestia attack

[mint cedar]

i just killed the guy with no deaths with the torch

[bronze summit]

very much surprises me how people are thinking they’re bad, i think they’re literally just not channeling

[stone ledge]

dodge

[swift gulch]

I do with hammers they special can go crazy

[modern yacht]

No one told me there was a phase 2 cronos.

I was so close again

[tall notch]

The thing I dislike about torches the most is that mana regen doesn't work even if you use the non-mana attack, feels really bad to go OOM with them because of that

[swift gulch]

same
I went with a mainly apollo cast build, 5 lv pom, a lot of stuff that made it so strong

[stone ledge]

what aspect?

[lunar valley]

Yeah with the torches you really want Poseidon gain boon

[swift gulch]

torches lol also using the special

[bronze summit]

when i run out of mana i just run around and mash special to let my passive regen catch up

[swift gulch]

apollo special on them isnt bad

[bronze summit]

spirit bubbles are suuuuuuper good for them poseidon is amazing on torche

[stone ledge]

the Hera mana gen is literally just infinite mana

[modern yacht]

I enjoy torches. Once you get them running they are enjoyable

[tall notch]

Torches feel like ranged Hades 1 fists

[lunar valley]

Pretty much

[stone ledge]

Ill try a hera build with them to see if it works well

[bronze summit]

also torches with the heph boon that refunds mana when you get hit is so silly

i had a bunch of health going into chronos and i just stopped dodging when i got low so i could keep my dps

[tired orbit]

The axe feels the most natural to me. It's pretty much Arthur

[bronze summit]

axe made me wanna blow my brains out cuz i got immediate daed hammer into the 300 damage attack

enemies just hit too fast

[stone ledge]

oh yeah it's so slow

I love everything about the axe EXCEPT the third hit

[hard musk]

Hermes can help a bit but tbh if you go full enhanced attack strats you need a ton of health and/or Hera's revenge boon

[mint cedar]

i have a plan

you use the black fleece, get scylla low, while using the vampiric hammer on the staff, you farm damage

the infinite swarm of tiny fish will allow you to instantly heal to full, and they probably can't kill you fast enough

so as long as you don't kill scylla, you can farm damage

[lunar valley]

You don't need to be holding the black fleece for damage to count btw. You can always check it in the keepsakes after a biome to see if you got enough damage done to you

[sudden belfry]

got killed by ||chronos|| which was expected as it was my first time but i think i did good nonetheless! got over halfway there!

[radiant stirrup]

extremely broken combo: aspect of artemis blades + explosive ambush hammer

[tired orbit]

Are the Selene hexes too imbalanced toward the healing? The others can't really compete can they?

[sudden belfry]

but it was exhausting so i really have to take a break LOL

[swift gulch]

I wanna try recreating aphrodite attack with the hammer that gives you the last hit of the axe only, did crazy damage

[tired orbit]

I glanced at him, got hit 5 times and sent home

[stone ledge]

grats on getting there 🙂

[sudden belfry]

tyyy

[stone ledge]

I just got to him with what I call the carpal tunnel build

[tired orbit]

27 damage is mean

[lyric drum]

selene hexes all feel pretty bad except for the healing one

[arctic osprey]

i just got to chronos with that settup, it is pretty painful to use

[bronze summit]

torches are easy mode victory you just kite enemies until they die

[lyric drum]

@bronze summiti hate torches, how do you make em work good?

[bronze summit]

hold attack

[stone ledge]

thats crazy to me because i tried them and felt weird but loved the axe

[arctic osprey]

i also hate torches, been loving cycle and axe so far

[lucid talon]

Total eclipse is quite good imo. Some positioning needed but quite a nice 1k shot

[rare brook]

Hmm... what Apollo boons to pick to get his legendary?

[bronze summit]

but fr tho relying on your omega attack for DPS and using your special when you’re out of mana is how i’ve been playing it. finding something like zeus or hestia to put on my main or even like demeter just for the damage is fine enough damage to scale fine

[lucid talon]

I use Poseidon on Special for the torches then spin to win

[bronze summit]

the good thing about torches is the range lets you not get hit by most enemies if you just play cautious, and if you dash in the middle of your omega attacks it doesn’t cancel which is super nice

[lyric drum]

also is it just me or does torch hitbox feel wonky?

[hard musk]

the delayed hit one gives invuln with a second level up, and that's useful for cheesing phases
the slowdown one can give +20% crit while active which is still decent even if ||it doesn't work on Chronos||

[plain marten]

I feel like I need to buckle down and learn a weapon instead of constantly chasing the one that'll give me bones

[stone ledge]

a lot of the hit boxes are kinda wonky but I imagine they will be fixed soon

[hard musk]

and ofc you can mix the beam hex/install hex with hestia's boon to get lots of burn stacks

[lucid talon]

Imo torch DPS still feels kinda low so I rely on slapping two statuses to increase the damage output. Freeze on cast and Poseidon slip on special is one of the stronger combis to me

[bronze summit]

everything else that isn’t the torches feels clunky to me lmao cuz it’s so easy to just get hit because of the short range. dps is very difficult when your uptime is limited by your health

[lunar valley]

Just have fun. I feel like changing weapons each run is good fun, even though I clearly have favourites

[lyric drum]

getting any kind of range on staff makes them so fun

[bronze summit]

i don’t think the natural DPS could be higher without them being incredibly broken honestly

[plain marten]

I dig that normally but there's a part of me that really wants to...kill time finally haha

[stone ledge]

as someone who has played a million rogue and soulslikes you just kinda get good at dodging and it makes melee a lot more thrilling than ranged imo

[bronze summit]

i liked the hammer that gave you boomerang special on staff, that was a fun build

[lucid talon]

Yeah, Double Cataclysm? The hammer upgrade for the staff that causes O attack to hit twice but only in front makes the hitbox move a bit further, so enemies right next to you might not get hit

[bronze summit]

perhaps i need more time. i loved using sword in hades I, bounced between that and rail

[lunar valley]

Ah, for the first kill that's understandable. Though if you want an easy win, just run a cast build tbh. Stay away and keep casting until you win hahaha

[stone ledge]

casting with the staff and a zues chain lightning build WILL give you carpal tunnel

[plain marten]

I do have a LOT of time/progress in (including another certain boss kill) already without getting that one. That sounds fun, I haven't seen what people are doing with cast builds specifically though

[bronze summit]

i might swallow my pride and try axe again. the frame data is so gross though lmao. it seems balanced but it’s sooooooo slow

[lucid talon]

I think it's still warranted because the DPS is imo too slow for Tight Deadline. Died to chronos because it took too long

[arctic osprey]

i had the most fun so far just going unga bunga on the axe. demeter main attack and whatever else i felt like and just taking my time hitting enemies with my truck on a stick. first hit freeze then charge omega and wrek house. that let me take out scylla in probably under 2 min damageless

[lunar valley]

Zeus/Apollo cast boon that you just keep levelling up. Getting a secondary boon that let's you place the cast wherever you want from afar also helps, at the top of my mind I remember Zeus, Hestia, ||hades|| having those boons. You keep your distance, get some magic recovery (likely Zeus) and spam your omega cast until everything is dead. Add in revenge boons too

[lucid talon]

My experience with axe was that it felt too clunky at first but I realize using dash strike after the 2nd strike to reset the attack combo or using Omega attack allows you to skip the wait for the last attack. Most of my chronos wins now are with the axe lol. Aphrodite/Zeus Axe is just too good

[arctic osprey]

i dont think i used the exe's special the entire run or my cast, just smacked everything

[plain marten]

Thanks man, I'll give that a spin!

[arctic osprey]

also a very good choice. i just used demeter to cheese most enemies and bosses (bosses that will freeze at least)

spin to win

[stone ledge]

I've been a zeus hera simp

[lucid talon]

I put Demeter on the cast instead so that I can dash into a group, cast and freeze then spin to win. I realized Demeter's cyclone cast boon and freeze boon are separate boons and statuses, so you can proc the dual status buff with one cast and see big numbers with the axe

[lunar valley]

Gonna go sleep soon, I think tomorrow I'm gonna work on farming psyche to max my grasp

(and nightmares)

[arctic osprey]

ive been going in on demeter and Hestia. demeter on axe and hestia burn proc on sickle

[arctic osprey]

i had demeter on attack but got the hammer that turned the dash attack into an aoe so just dash in and spin to kill just about any enemy

also stacked a chaos attack up boon and another hammer boon that raised attack for maximum unga bunga

[lucid talon]

Demeter's Weed Killer which boosts Omega attack damage is also lovely on the axe

[bleak night]

I kinda hope they make Loadouts for Arcanas so we don't need to keep swapping them out depending on the weapon or run we're doing

[split igloo]

where is the cat familiar?

[lucid talon]

I had a run which had Aphrodite and Demeter's dual boon which increases attack based on HP, Aphrodite boon which increases HP gain from hearts and boons, and Demeter's boon which gave HP on nuts/seeds/plants. Easily 400 HP and huge numbers on the axe

[bleak night]

Thesally

I found it there, at least, before I entered the first ship

was chilling by the docks

[tall notch]

Does it boost every individual spin?

[open pawn]

THE ASPECT FOR THE TORCHES oh my gosh is even more fun. I love them. Not sure how to spoiler tag… but yeah the one where your specials explode your attacks.

[bronze summit]

mix that with the heph max hp scaling based on max mana and you got a stew going

[arctic osprey]

i got that one on it too it was a pretty stacked run. unfortunatly it was my first time to the house so i got hit a few times too many by the boss since i wasnt familiar with his attack pattern

[lucid talon]

Hmmm I don't actually know tbh I just saw big numbers lol. But I think it does increase every swing and not just the first

[arctic osprey]

i couldnt talk to the cat when i found it

[arctic osprey]

every part of the spin is the omega attack so yes +50% or more for each hit i believe

[lucid talon]

Oh man I feel ya. I learnt to step into the circle for chronos phase 2 for dual blade hestia boomerang special run. Time can't be stopped indeed

[tall notch]

You spin lovers NEED Than aspect

[bleak night]

are we talking about Than Axe ?

[tall notch]

Yes

[bleak night]

Yeah, it's great

[arctic osprey]

it is a good one but demeters normal attack buff takes priority just for the freeze and raw damage

[woven bough]

Okay, so I managed to unlock the Artemis aspect for the knives, what does it do?

[bleak night]

it encourages you to play like a Ninja

Omega Attacks to leap behind enemies

[rocky kraken]

hi does proper upbringing not work with the boon you get from echo?

[bleak night]

what's Proper Upbringing

[rocky kraken]

the one that upgrades all common boons

[woven bough]

Opoh, I see, is there a recommended build/playstyle apart from spamming omegas?

[bleak night]

Oh, then I'm not too sure. Might be an oversight

[rocky kraken]

i got a common one from previous night and it wasnt upgraded so my commonless buff got turned off

[bleak night]

I haven't used that one much, I just unlocked Pan instead

[modern yacht]

Has anyone used medea skull yet?

[stone ledge]

medea skull is amazing its just janky against area 3 boss and the hydra miniboss

[distant maple]

try spamming specials with poseidon boon its awesome

just pops everything right off

[modern yacht]

Great

[little ridge]

what boons are good with skulls

[stone ledge]

honestly for medea I think hitch is crazy because the damage gets bounced between them all with the explosion

[little ridge]

best way to apply it? I know you can sprint but makes me feel valuable sprinting through everything

[stone ledge]

you can apply it through attacks or special

aphro is also super strong for either since she makes you do insane damage close range

[swift shadow]

Maybe this fits better here:

do we have any mathematicians in here? I'm trying to figure out how to word a concern I have. H1 had 10 boon-giving gods, that could alter/improve roughly 10 aspects. H2 has 13 boon-giving gods, that can alter/improve roughly 16 aspects. But I think we have roughly the same amount of rooms per room, and we're still offered only 3 boons at a time. I feel most of my runs pretty empty handed, in comparison to H1, when you also factor in all the Minor Find and money rooms there are. I don't know if we need more rooms per biome, or less something else, but does anyone else feel a cohesive build is a bit... more difficult to construct, given the limited slots in a much wider pool of rewards? Something's not working out for me here. Are we also locked at 5 Gods per run? My head is spinning here. Any assistance would be appreciated 🙂 🙂

In the same amount of rooms, I have almost double the aspects to alter/improve from even more boon-giving deities, it feels a bit overwhelming and results in less focused builds.

[shy summit]

I have massive skill issue with ||Chronos|| I don't know how to explain it

[glossy sluice]

Same 😭

[shy summit]

I've been there like 5 or 6 times with 4 death defiances

[bleak night]

what part of it is giving you trouble ?

[shy summit]

and 250+ health sometimes... I don't get it!

[bleak night]

I choked a 4 death defiance lead on Eris, so I get it lol

[shy summit]

the time window to react to moves is too low and weapon lag is too high 😦

[stone ledge]

against him dodge roll is OP

[bleak night]

also using the Axe ?

[shy summit]

I have every other boss down consistently at this point except ||chronos|| (yes, including ||eris||)

[shy summit]

I've attempted the fight with the axe twice I think

[stone ledge]

thats crazy she always destroys me

[bleak night]

who?

[stone ledge]

I dont know how to make the censored tag but the topside final boss

[ripe temple]

Its || on both sides

[bleak night]

she'll get nerfed hard eventually when the area after her is up for play

[timber fractal]

How does scorch work?

[shy summit]

I suspect I might just have to slow my gameplay down

[timber fractal]

like say if someone has 100 scorch and 100 hp left, what happens

[shy summit]

||chronos|| attacks are so fast I should just focus on dodging over damaging

[ripe temple]

Theyll take tick dmg of 40 per second i believe for scorch

[bleak night]

it slowly burns them down until nothing is left, just think of it as Dionysus' Hangover poison

[timber fractal]

its the same then?

[bleak night]

kinda, yeah

[timber fractal]

is it mean to call that lazy?

[bleak night]

They probably needed a God whose main boons are DoT, so they gave it to Scorch

[devout jungle]

It's not the same, Dionysus had stacks that gave more damage over time when applied more. Hestia only extends the duration when re-applying it

[stone ledge]

Do you mean like give it an execute? That would be a neat legendary boon tbh

[glossy rivet]

oh man it took 40 attempts to finally see a trial of the gods lol

[devout jungle]

But Hestia feels ass tbh

[timber fractal]

i guess

[glossy rivet]

btw is hera the only new god revealed from going to the surface?

[shy summit]

scorch is one of the stronger statuses I think

[glossy rivet]

still no ares, athena, dio, etc?

[devout jungle]

Scorch is terrible imo

[timber fractal]

Is Fire Extinguisher a good buff? my builds magic heavy and Hearth gain is the other boon

[shy summit]

great on fast attacks - it's just a better hangover

[bleak night]

for now, I'm guessing. I still have hopes Athena, Ares and Dionysus are going to be added, though they don't need to be boon-giving Gods, just NPCs

[shy summit]

add fire extinguisher and it gets even better

[bleak night]

I only use Scorch if I need the two-status curse damage boost immediately

[devout jungle]

It's alright. Scorch + fire extinguisher just turns hesta into no aoe poseidon

[shy summit]

dionysus is just a great character i hope he comes back

[devout jungle]

Ye, good for that, but still not using Hestia as the primary damage source. Maybe use it on cast to apply the curse

[shell sun]

any tips on the final boss? i can reach it consistently but i always choke against it

[bleak night]

What are your weapon distributions rn btw ?

[shy summit]

I am also very much struggling with this

I think the solution is to just use a ranged build frankly

[shell sun]

i used the || skull || two times that i reached it, didnt help

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1238013870992523334/image.png?ex=663dbdc4&is=663c6c44&hm=b88456fc01d5ae0b312841a1bead3b8be3998686aaa30829c37bb1f1c2b13d89& some of these are inflated because it counts as one run and a LOSS whenever you do a Chaos Trial

[devout jungle]

But if you have fire extinguisher, you proc 150 damage every 10 hits (assuming everything is common and level 1) which is just terrible.

[bleak night]

I should do a fast Sister Blades and Argent Skull run on the surface to fix those Best Times

[hot citrus]

does anyone have any torches tips they feel so bad to use

[shy summit]

use special

[bleak night]

I'm terrible with them

[shy summit]

use special for dps and attack for applying statuses

[hot citrus]

hm yeah

[shy summit]

the basic combo goes cast -> stand nearby -> spam special
(for me)

[atomic lava]

How many hours of gameplay you at Zandy?

[timber fractal]

Why wont cloud synch after i retry it 0-0

[shy summit]

26 hrs in and still haven't beaten chronos (skill issue)

[atomic lava]

Oof i need to grind more

[shy summit]

I think they are very build dependent and the path to easy wins is narrow

[hot citrus]

im 12.5~ in rn and only got to the underworld third area boss so its good 🫡

tbh im playing it only really to enjoy it and im havign a ton of fun

[shy summit]

sweating is fun so far

but I have yet to find a build that just completely destroys the game

I think in Hades 1 it was easier to snowball into a crazy build without trying too hard

[atomic lava]

Torch build kinda hard atm and also rely heavy on boons and luck

[hot citrus]

one more run.... (lie)

[granite sierra]

so far it feels like getting hookshot flourish hammer on the daggers special trivializes most things if you can get any decent boons for it

[shy summit]

I did notice that this was a potential hammer combo situation

[devout jungle]

for me that is definitely ||pan aspect blades + poseidon attack + any special hammer + any decent mana regen||. it feels like cheating for basically 0 rng

[mint cedar]

ive changed my mind: arachne is the best buff

there is a dress that is just +100% cast damage

[shy summit]

I found ||pan aspect|| hard to use, but I will give it another go

[granite sierra]

hookshot flourish plus sureshot flourish hammers are stupidly overpowered for bosses

[timber fractal]

Can you save in the middle of a run

I was legit right about to fight chronos and a storm zapped my power...

[shy summit]

i think the game saves at every chamber?

[timber fractal]

mind you with 2 death defiances and an insane axe build

[granite sierra]

it gets way easier if you get Zeus's boon that lets you aim your cast wherever

[modern yacht]

Ngl I hope ares comes back. His boons were always my favorite

[timber fractal]

Because i just relaunched and im back before I started the run.

[atomic lava]

Yea. Autosave

[shy summit]

ah then maybe it doesn't
the game does let you save and quit at the ends of chambers

[timber fractal]

uhm... why didnt autosave autosave? 0-0

[granite sierra]

do we know how many gods they're planning to add?

[shy summit]

I mean *Locations

[modern yacht]

I don't think so

[shy summit]

btw does anyone else find ||the surface|| much easier overall

[modern yacht]

Nah ||Polyphemus|| wrecks me everytime

[timber fractal]

Well now im incredibly frustrated, 2 death defiances + moon water before chronos just for none of the run to be saved? should i report this as a bug?

[shy summit]

actually I take back the "much"

i think it is a little easier overall

[modern yacht]

The rooms are def simpler imo

[atomic lava]

Dunno how to answer that one. I had a run mid game and my laptop died. Charged it and open and was back at previous room.

[timber fractal]

Thats crazy :/

Are rooms predetermined? could i theoretically re-run my old run if i chose the right rooms?

[atomic lava]

Doubt it

[storm moss]

welp I went scorch with the twin blades and didn't get enough output --- for the twin blades I am definitely liking demeter attack buff the best

[charred flame]

I could see it generating the room order when you get to a region, but it could also just be random, but following a rule set (is, X amount of boons vs resources, etc)

[charred flame]

I personally like Zeus's chain lightning on hit + aphrodite close damage amp (which for me is usually +100%) or Hera's hitch on hit.

[storm moss]

that should work too

anything that gets a bit of cc on the hit with enough damage for bosses

[strange kite]

should i go with axe or daggersickle for best consistency? im kinda hating the staff because even tho the range is nice it feels too rng dependent.

[modern yacht]

You should play skull

[mint cedar]

I brought the crimson dress to the Chronos fight

[modern yacht]

It's God's gift to earth. Special spam is so much fun

[mint cedar]

It was a lot of damage

[rich oxide]

What is a good build to beat Oceanus boss cause ||Scylla and the Sirens|| keep killing me using any of my builds, I have all the weapons

[proper cedar]

APOLO ||CHARON|| AXE IS THE BEST WEAPON IN THE GAME IDC

OH MY GOD THE CAST AND SPECIAL ARE AMAZING FOR THIS ASPECT

[rich oxide]

How do you get that? Can Charon give boons?

[stiff locust]

good cast build to get my first win?

[tribal lantern]

Alright with ||axe|| I can consistently get to ||cerbie|| but cant seem to get past him. I just managed to get him to 2nd phase for the first time and perished instantly.

[stiff locust]

its an aspect

[rich oxide]

I thought those weren't released yet, how do you get them?

[proper cedar]

aspect of charon axe

[stiff locust]

great for cast builds

[proper cedar]

your special activates your cast

[stiff locust]

the magical soup bowl

[rich oxide]

When do you get it? How many ||Hecate|| kills or some other way?

[proper cedar]

apolo cast + size expand + apolo special + hermes faster special + dedalus faster special activation + apolo double special (legendary boon) + dedalus (or hermes idk) double special

[stiff locust]

we dont know what the requirements are yet

[proper cedar]

the room gets destroyed with one click

[rich oxide]

Ok

[proper cedar]

it's litterally broken lmao

[stiff locust]

came for me on my 20th run

[stiff locust]

i think

[rich oxide]

How do you get legendary boons just randomly?

[proper cedar]

i think its run based im not sure

[rich oxide]

Which number?

Long way to go then, I have not not been grinding

[proper cedar]

yes but i think its high chance if you already have a lot of boons from a god also if you are at the ||tartarus charon shop|| you get better boons

[tawny stag]

Man I just had hestia attack on torches with a TWO second cooldown but still lost to chronos

[rich oxide]

Ok, Ty so much?

[proper cedar]

i think the more boons you get from a god the higher the chance becomes

[tawny stag]

yeah

It was only 200 attack but man it was feeling good on the mobs

[stiff locust]

anyways i need help getting through the fourth boss and need a reasonably achievable build to do that

[split igloo]

what weapons do you guys think is easiest to chain and move around with ?

skulls the only one i havent unlocked yet :/

[zinc mural]

is it me or does the torches kinda not good

[stiff locust]

everybody agrees there trash

[stiff locust]

not just you

[split igloo]

i really dont like the torches

feels really weak and slow

[zinc mural]

what does the oath grant. Is it weapon variants?

[split igloo]

just got a bugged run (i had a chaos boon from transcendent embryo that didnt reroll when it should've) and i think i might've world recorded the chronos fight
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200500734299476130/1238026390864138250/2024-05-09_00-10-51.mp4?ex=663dc96d&is=663c77ed&hm=f53024a35600a316e9046dc3a69a5e97bd6802e58f2be855563ee7aa6319a82f&

[queen charm]

Aspect of Charon is good against Eris too since it can block her bullets

[paper tapir]

is it normal to revive with 0 health when u only have 1 max HP?

i took phoenix while having less than 100 health

[lusty heron]

Probably a rounding thing since revives are half your hp and i assume they round down on uneven numbers ?

[tawny stag]

I think they are good just need rapid fire heph lol

[jolly basalt]

What kind of boons are good for sister blades?

[split igloo]

Who should i bond with first for an animal familiar?

Find the cat again or Frinos?

[strong cave]

Love goddes for melee

[jolly basalt]

Okay, and what about hammers and some other tips regarding sister blades if you don’t mind

[marsh stirrup]

guys, how to obtain golden apple??

[strong cave]

go to the surface and finish the run

[marsh stirrup]

omg its joever

havent even cleared the underworld:)

[strong cave]

depends on what you get but most upgrades to your basic attacks/omega attack are good if you get a good +damage boon for it

If you get some strong hammers for special like making it all in one line then it can become a very strong focus too

[tawny stag]

We are limited to two hammers right

[queen charm]

not sure

[ornate sapphire]

special buffs are nice in blades too… i had the hammer had makes you shoot knives all around you in a 360 radius and it was clearing screens with blitz + chain lightning

the backstab hammer that makes the knives return is pretty good too

[primal wren]

Does anyone know how to use the aspect of persephone on the 💀

[quaint ingot]

is there a known bug with not being able to get the familiars?

if anyone knows

[primal wren]

i have frinos but havent seen the cat again

[quaint ingot]

i havent gotten the familiar concoction despite doing 30 plus runs and beating the game

[tired fulcrum]

Cat might require you to fish at least once

[primal wren]

have you gotten the lotus flowers?

[thin terrace]

How do people generally feel about the moonstone axe? With about 12 runs under my belt the only times I’ve ever lost to Hecate were my very first run and the two runs I’ve attempted with the axe. The defense/blocking special feels a little wonky. I just died to something that I really felt should have been blocked

[quaint ingot]

ive gotten pretty much all collectables

ive unlocked like 25 concoctions

[tired fulcrum]

Have you used the shade tablet thingy idk

[quaint ingot]

once

[frank onyx]

I did not like it the first time I used it and also lost to Hecate. Next time I made it all the way and had a lot of fun (still lost but meh)

[thin terrace]

Any tips for use?

[quaint ingot]

axe and sickles are my favorite weapons

[tired fulcrum]

Its pretty good with aphro attack and spinning a lot imo

[thin terrace]

Yeah, I love the sister blades, play style feels kind of like aspect of nemesis sword from the first game

[tribal lantern]

What’s the trigger for aspects?

[frank onyx]

Mess around with how much you can dash/dodge without interrupting your attack sequence. Pair it was freeze effects, especially ones that affect your cast, then enemies will be nicely grouped for wide swings and the slam down at the end of your attack

[thin terrace]

Thanks! Do you use the special much?

[frank onyx]

Not the regular special, but the charged special is really nice

I like using the arcana card that gives passive magic regen and spamming the axe’s charge abilities

[thin terrace]

Right, I got the Apollo boon on it and it tore through stuff

But the defense aspect of it just feels unreliable. Like the hitbox for shielding is smaller than I expect. Or angled strangely

[frank onyx]

I feel like it’s better to just keep up with dodging than try to use the block. Not sure if this is how the block is supposed to work or not, but I’d rather just dodge and know that if I take damage I messed up the dodge rather than using a block that I’m not sure is working right

[thin terrace]

Yeah, I think next axe run I’ll try just doing that

Thanks for the advice

[frank onyx]

No problem! Good luck on your next run

[tired fulcrum]

The axe block can delete some hit boxes like wailer shrieks though it seems a little buggy

[remote thicket]

finally beat the game lol

the sister dagger thing with the special as poseidon is insane

[random dust]

isnt poseidon special knock away other enemies? is that actually helpful on a boss

[remote thicket]

its because special on the knives has low base damage

and the poseidon special adds damage instead of multiplying likie aphrodites special

[remote thicket]

i have a picture of it in victory boasting

the waves did 170k damage

[livid tartan]

Aw man. Just had a run end at the very end at final final boss because I didn't know how to dodge

I still had 5 heals on deck but it didn't matter 😦

[granite finch]

do axe builds just involve spin/special spam?
base attack just seems god awful to use

[remote thicket]

you can go hell splitter hammer

and then build aphrodite attack

then you go chaos attack boosts

i was critting for 3.2k against eris with that

[granite finch]

id rather just play staff or skull then

I beat the game a couple of times already but with axe i loose dd in erebus

[remote thicket]

do u have any good staff/skull builds you could reccomend

ive been avoiding them cuz idk how to make them work

[granite finch]

for Skull, just get some crowd control on your cast and orbital bombard everything with charge attack, A lot of things can work

[royal skiff]

so skull with demeter?

[granite finch]

I had a good run with Apollo on attack for extra aoe, but Demeter would probably be better yeah

[royal skiff]

i was thinking cylone cast but yeah

[granite finch]

Hera can also work but she is rare to see even after she is unloked

[wise wadi]

twin blades with zeus special? would it be good

[light quiver]

I've had that, it's very meh. Blitz overall has been kinda underwhelming.

[royal skiff]

blitz seems like it'd be constant with axe

[light quiver]

why do that when you could just go all in on heph or aphro though?

[royal skiff]

true

[wise wadi]

that shucks, aphro has been the best with specials as of now tho tbh.

[royal skiff]

one of my favorite books I've done had both chain lightning and art arrow on attack

[wise wadi]

atleast for the blades

[royal skiff]

i really want to do run that adds hera as well

[granite finch]

for staff i just spec into big ball, +40 mana use from hammer, +10 from hestia and demeter, and look for good mana regen from chaos/hestia/apollo/demeter
And then invest in your hex, cuz its gonna charge real fast with how much mana you spend

[light quiver]

blades and aphro are crazy. I did that and almost mindlessly killed chronos.

[granite finch]

good choice for hex is either dark side or eclipse cuz they give you invuln (eclipse with upgrade) and time to recharge your mana to start blasting again right after and charge them right back

[light quiver]

transcendent embryo is so unbelievably good. I honestly might call it the best keepsake in the game, or one of.

[tender flint]

Ok quick clarification help when boons say they add attack power what are they adding plus to? Is it only attack is it omega attack or is it both very unclear and does it apply to boons you already have on attack ? They way I understand is that whatever the base dmg is let's say on axe regular attack it adds to it but it seems incredibly weak since it's only +5-+9 dmg am I wrong in my assumption

[wise wadi]

which one was that

[light quiver]

Chaos' keepsake.

you keep the buff after you unequip it. If you get a good buff after a boss it's basically a free win machine.

[split igloo]

I never part with it.

[royal skiff]

Poseidon sprint my beloved

[wise wadi]

wtf fr??

[light quiver]

yep. free epic chaos buff with no downside.

[split igloo]

The only keepsake that stacks lol.

[wise wadi]

I've been using the armor keepsake lol

[light quiver]

its good but my go-to combo for starting runs is either embyro, or god boon into narcissus boon to make it instant higher rarity. Getting an attack boon you specifically want then making it high rarity can make runs way more consistent.

[wise wadi]

Im doing a very scuffed run rn with zeus special on twin blades ;-;

[bleak night]

can confirm that I equipped Icarus' keepsake after Scylla, and it still has 14 uses left when I get to Tartarus, meaning you could do all extra rooms and still have that extra 3rd Daedalus Hammer for the final fight

[granite finch]

If the decryption says "attackS/specialS" plural, then it applies to both versions, if it specifically says "Attack/Special" singular or specifies the Omega version then it only applies to that

[wise wadi]

btw are there no boon takeaway thingys like in hades? like the boon dematerializer thing where u can remove boons for gold

[tender flint]

Is it just the base dmg or will the plus also apply to boons on attack or special

[granite finch]

if it says + X Power then it means base weapon damage which is multiplied by boons

its in the tooltip usually

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1238046227963056189/image.png?ex=663ddbe6&is=663c8a66&hm=1c10fcc4c2da26d9daf44b296fc8348b6d133f6ff82e7e0df4db7cae30072547& button mashing build is fun

[tender flint]

Ok got it now that it's clarified I feel like they are kinda underwhelming personally like +9 on attack and then let's say aphro attack boon which increase dmg based on how close you are let's say she gives 60% based on how close that's only like a plus 5.5 extra dmg that barely anything

[tender flint]

What weapon I cannot tell

[bleak night]

Wand Aspect that boosts my Special damage by 30%

nvm not 30%, 30 flat damage

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1238046681489084468/image.png?ex=663ddc52&is=663c8ad2&hm=e8c0948de71f2b14012169d26b0f10f724520c580a1b9f910d2a4ad591fd8de3&

[random dust]

me2

[tender flint]

So I haven't used wand a lot what are good boons I see u use position whatelse

[granite finch]

60% also applies to base weapon damage
and static bonuses to power can be realy good on twin blade with a lot of small attacks

[bleak night]

probs wait for this Aspect before you do the Special spam build, but otherwise I go for Attack boons and mana regen boons for the base Aspect so I can spam the Omega Attacks with their range

[tender flint]

Ok yeah but that's on a weapon that deals minimal dmg and again there are better boons out there that would increase it more and faster I just am truly not seeing the benefit of it. The only 2 weapons I can see even good is twin blade and torch but torch will outscale it late game

[random dust]

how does god boon into narcissus boon work tho? you can only switch in between biomes i thought? so you get the attack you want and actively avoid boons after?

[granite finch]

honestly, base staff aspect is plenty strong, just cast big ball

[light quiver]

Get the attack you want and go for utility boons. So posideon and dementer, mostly.

[tender flint]

Any specific gods

I have aspects

[random dust]

utility ones dont have rarity i guess so narcissus ignores them?

[daring wolf]

Can someone tell me how the Groly of Revaals(aspect2) working? I think it didnot work except the damage increase though I want to build something with this

[light quiver]

Narcissus tends to target the boons that are openly displayed on the left of the screen before anything else, typically. That's biased and based on my experience though

I could just be ungodly highrolling every time

[tender flint]

By God boon you mean any of the gods right or is there a something else

[light quiver]

He also only targets common, so just don't take other commons.

[bleak night]

Poseidon spam when playing Momus is your best choice, you can also do Demeter but it's not as strong vs bosses, you'll have no issues from normal enemies though

[tender flint]

Got it thanks I had to take a break from the game in 72 hrs I got 40hrs in so will try tomorrow😅

[bleak night]

Yeah, you definitely need a break lol

[devout mortar]

How can u change keepsake o-O

[light quiver]

you unlock the keepsakes box as a ritual(?) in the cauldron after a point.

[devout mortar]

Like in moddle@of run when boon is on ground ?

[lyric wasp]

I’ve really been enjoying cast builds, and one that I really want to try is Apollo’s boon that makes the cast do X damage to enemies in the cast area every like .15 seconds for a couple of seconds after it ends. Paired with Poseidon’s boon that makes the cast trigger immediately instead of with a delay, I bet that would be broken

[light quiver]

A thing I desperately want to try is- I remember seeing a zeus boon that like, made a minimum for the amount of damage something can do? I think it was an infusion. But 'minimum damage 20' + the dementer sprint cylcone would be hilarious.

[bleak night]

those in-between fountain areas will have Keepsake Vaults in them after you unlock via incantation

[lyric wasp]

Haha I haven’t ran the cyclone much at all. I’ll have to check that out. My favorite build so far has been Zeus’ cast boon that’s very similar to Apollo’s except his effect triggers less frequently (like .25 instead of .15), it happens during the cast instead of after, and it only hits one enemy at a time. Then I run Apollo’s boon to gain mana while standing in the cast. A run I did a bit ago had nearly 170k damage from casts. Apollos would be nearly twice as good I think using the boons I mentioned above

[proper cedar]

again for the 100th time can we agree that aspect of charon axe with apollo is op

[proper cedar]

nevermind :(

[light quiver]

oh huh. I hit rank 6 of an aspect with a boon. neat.

[bleak night]

huh

[light quiver]

heph legendary boon just +1's your weapon, I have a tier V axe. It's tier VI now.

[bleak night]

that's kinda amazing

[wise wadi]

are hepha boons any good? the attack/specials

[light quiver]

I think so. if you get them ranked up / leveled up you can get it to trigger every 2 seconds.

[granite sierra]

only if you get epic + lots of poms

[wise wadi]

Ahhok

[thin lantern]

Ah those take the same slot, unfortunately

[thin lantern]

That's interesting...

[light quiver]

I was running base mel axe, but im sure with certain weapons that could be very strong

what seems to be the best dagger aspect from what people have tried?

[thin lantern]

Afaik Pan is unbelievably busted

[crisp stratus]

hey guys can someone explain how tax life works? i mean does it only go 100hp and you cant use it anymore after that or can you continuously use it until your 100Hp??

[thin lantern]

What is that? Hades boon? If so, it's a heal up to 100 total hp like ghost onion

[lyric wasp]

Ah really? That’s disappointing haha. Figured they were different since apollos was an added effect and Poseidon’s was one that just allowed you to control where you cast it at and made it pop instantly. There are several other boons like that that let you control where it goes while still allowing those other boons I mentioned, but I guess that one’s different

[crisp stratus]

oh okay thanks man im bout fight Cronos and was like hol up that could be broken but i figured it wouldnt be lmao

[stiff locust]

anyone know a good axe build i can use

[split igloo]

posted this earlier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200500734299476130/1238026390864138250/2024-05-09_00-10-51.mp4?ex=663dc96d&is=663c77ed&hm=f53024a35600a316e9046dc3a69a5e97bd6802e58f2be855563ee7aa6319a82f&

[split igloo]

yes it works like that

[crisp stratus]

which one??

[thin lantern]

Omae wa mou shindeiru.gif

That really needs a clip of all the times he just gets his healthbar erased near instantly

[light quiver]

this just in, narcissus's thing can in fact, target something other than your selected weapon boon

it chose artemis' buff instead of my +3 aphrodite. It's so over.

[thin lantern]

lmao damn, nice

[light quiver]

upside, 14% chance to crit in cast on 300 power axe swings.

[bleak night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1238059694598389780/image.png?ex=663de871&is=663c96f1&hm=4c08485f2a72e04c536ffd4d40a2bfd83ceeb3128e251659e6139e48536784f0& ...32 Fear

Golden Rule made me do more damage with raw Special than the actual Poseidon stuff

[thin lantern]

What is Golden Rule, like which duo is that, and what's the weapon/aspect

[bleak night]

Momus Wand (+30 flat damage to Special and Omega Special), Golden Rule is ||Hera||-Poseidon

[thin lantern]

Oh, nice.

[bleak night]

ended with 20 Arcana cards active https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1238060681086111875/image.png?ex=663de95c&is=663c97dc&hm=d64a634560e1d948f78f6649b871dc8c9889402e7a765e31a25315e418804ce2&

[thin lantern]

gigachad momus moment.

[thin lantern]

was that with judgment or something?

[bleak night]

Yep, I only run Judgement + 11 Grasp now

[thin lantern]

build for 11 grasp?

[bleak night]

except for Surface runs where I can't do much with it

[bleak night]

lemme check rq for you, hold on

[bleak night]

VII (Titan) - +40HP/MP flat
VIII (Unseen) - Magick Regen (probably swap for something else when doing Momus runs)
XII (Eternity) - Death Defiance x3
XX (The Queen) - Higher Duo chance, is automatically active
XXV (Judgment)

[thin lantern]

Also. What's the best way to farm up all these resources? Tablet of peace and just keep running for shades, and/or poseidon trinket and just keep rolling up outrageous amounts of gold for Charon?

[bleak night]

I got the frog and I use the fishing rod, the frog allows you to do what the Tablet of Peace does

[light quiver]

hypnotoad.

[bleak night]

🐸

[thin lantern]

what does the fishing rod even get you?

[wise wadi]

what are like the best boons for the staff?

[bleak night]

mostly bones, but it still helps

[bleak night]

what aspect are we doin