h2-builds-and-combat

[grand gale]

anyone have a fun build for the skulls?

[tawny stag]

That’s been my go to so far because using sprint itself is just weird to me

[mint cedar]

i would need a higher frame rate recording though, maybe tomorrow

[mint cedar]

High rarity aphro special

[devout jungle]

there are a few that work on dashes, some unintended (probably, apollo, hestia?) some intended (aphro, no sprint only dash)

[mossy summit]

good old bull rush build

[thin lantern]

oh NICE. so apollo attack is viable, maybe aphro or hera special, aphro dash, usual apollo cast if needed... zeus attack/poseidon special does slap, I think hestia can do work but needs some specific boons

[zenith bolt]

aphrodite sweep

[thin lantern]

ngl though, the damage on this aspect is already kind of unreal

[tender flint]

who would be the best god to put on torch attack I really like the weapon so far i think either hestia or zues but anymore?

[tawny stag]

What does god mode do again?

[shy summit]

any sprint that applies a status effect isn't bad

[tawny stag]

Yeah i don’t mind the dash it’s the sprinting part that feels weird

[thin lantern]

apollo if you're using moros. not sure which you need aphrodite on if you want to use eos and proc the big damage bonus up close

[zenith bolt]

every time you die the game gets a bit easier for you iirc

[simple jasper]

Poseidon for the flat damage, Apollo or Zeus if you're doing Moros

[mint cedar]

Moros has big damage because of lingering attack

[shy summit]

i am currently using the hitch-applying sprint and it's honestly pretty great

[tender flint]

i have the base ones i am trying to get the aspects

[zenith bolt]

aspect of medea seems funny

[grand gale]

i got a normal rarity aphro special ;-;

[tender flint]

agreed real good

[tawny stag]

Are you sprinting for a while or just kinda extending your dash a bit

[mint cedar]

Also Moros with chain lighting is easy small room clear

[shy summit]

I just sprint whenever I need to and drive-by enemies along the way

[mint cedar]

Drink the narcissus

[tawny stag]

could you elaborate

[zenith bolt]

inb4 kneejerk buff to torches that make them busted

[shy summit]

put apollo on torch special for fun times

[tender flint]

also clean candle or furious fire on torch which one should I go

[cinder palm]

Torches pose are so goofy ahhh

[thin lantern]

the BIG problem with torch fears is getting past polyphemus. eris isn't too bad, just hestia keepsake for soot sprint and sleep

[mint cedar]

Narcissus keepsake turns one random (only) common boon into a rare/epic/heroic version

[thin lantern]

but while poly goes down super quick, the way he's designed HURTS on torches

[zenith bolt]

poly is just cringe as hell on melee imo

[cinder palm]

Also can't believe we have the opposite of rare crop now

[mint cedar]

We still have rare crop

[tawny stag]

wait there is something that makes them go down ?

[shy summit]

I'm so mixed about these boons that are like "if your build is garbage you get a buff"

[rocky kraken]

anyone knows how dmg stacking works? Are all +% bonus additive and power calculated otherwise

[tawny stag]

Are you talking about elements?

[mint cedar]

Which boon is that

[thin lantern]

I do feel like Moros aspect is bugged though, like, the collision on the mallows is real funky

[cinder palm]

Yeah hera has a boon that turns your boon into a heroic but gets worse after a certain number of encounters

[mint cedar]

Sometimes they just get stuck

[thin lantern]

oooor they fly way past the enemy.

[mint cedar]

Can you get the splitting hammer on Moros btw

[thin lantern]

splitting? I think so, no hammer lockouts afaik

[mint cedar]

Oooooh

Double the attacks

They should add a hammer that lets attack detonations trigger other attack detonations

[thin lantern]

right

[shy summit]

like the boon that gives you a damage buff if all your boons are common

[thin lantern]

well it feels like they kinda do but only to a point?

I think the one that gives you armor shred on the special might be really good though. Long range detonation

also seeking fire is hilarious

[mint cedar]

Armor shed is kind of always useful but kind of boring

[thin lantern]

no it's for the forward special.

[mint cedar]

But forward special has no style (circular arc)

[shy summit]

i think the armor breaking buffs are better in this game

but still not great picks

[thin lantern]

yeah meteor is a little rizzless

[heavy sleet]

any recommendations for a build using the axe?

[dense heron]

What's everyone's favorite keepsakes? I like the Silken Sash a lot.

[thin lantern]

apollo lmao

[signal mantle]

guys I think Im actually getting better at this game

[mint cedar]

Apollo attack and special, no omega attack, and 20 charges of hex heal

[signal mantle]

Im consistently going to kronos with all my defiances

[mint cedar]

Transcendent embryo / narcissus

[signal mantle]

tooth🙏

is there an equivalent to eurydice

[zenith bolt]

i use dora's to cope when i eat it to ||polyphemus||

[bleak night]

This one, because I don't need to equip it for it to count how much damage I've eaten, then i can just equip it for the final fight. ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237850400108052601/image.png?ex=663d2585&is=663bd405&hm=16ea230274e89911e21ec9048edf6ebd7a964c912c51e974ef6ab3d9bc24aa6a&||

[mint cedar]

Transcendent embro for that early game +12 magick/second and the late game +50 dash/sprint speed

[zenith bolt]

theres an arcana card that does the effect but a bit weaker

[signal mantle]

I feel like this has potential too

[mint cedar]

Narcissus because my common boon become heroic

[tired fulcrum]

Is that ||heracles' keepsake||

[signal mantle]

||medea||

[bleak night]

nope, his is kinda bad

[tired fulcrum]

What does he give?

[mint cedar]

The chaos boons are crazy in this game

[zenith bolt]

the gain all elements ones are so good

[bleak night]

+50% damage, but you lose -5% of that bonus per encounter

[tired fulcrum]

so like utterly useless once you reach a boss

[bleak night]

I've been using this one||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237850854606897184/image.png?ex=663d25f1&is=663bd471&hm=30b1c363cca6db00e0d9c32fcd454736ec501ecb0e46640deaf65b026cff863c&||

[mint cedar]

I like 50% move speed or -50% magick consumption a lot

[bleak night]

for the final boss or even the third area

[dark whale]

Apollo cast and Zeus special on staff feels great

[dense heron]

Not sure Hades 1 spoilers matter here but just in case I'll use spoilers
The axe feels like a spiritual successor to Hades 1's ||Hidden Excalibur Aspect||

[mint cedar]

You can even start the game with “extra harvest”

[dark whale]

I also like Artemis special with Apollo attack and the hammer that makes both omega attacks shoot forwards

[zenith bolt]

arthur aspect wishes it could spin this good

[dark whale]

Arthur aspect is way better imo.

[grand gale]

is the armor shredding special hammer not working on the skull for anyone else?

[zenith bolt]

shoutout to spinning around with your weapon in video games
gotta be one of my favorite genders

[mint cedar]

Support fire with Zeus elemental is also very funny

[zenith bolt]

it's like choosing between favorite children for me

[mint cedar]

Support fire doing the minimum 30 damage

[devout jungle]

that is insane

[bleak night]

Been using this instead of a God boon keepsake for the start of the run ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237851510864613487/image.png?ex=663d268e&is=663bd50e&hm=40ea56f199895ae6f0618422cc9be1bec8920cd0ff658730bad2ceb70fb83fa8&||

[zenith bolt]

hestia keepsake gets a lot of use from me bc hearth gain is goated

also i think you can get up to 9 rerolls in this game which is crazy

[bleak night]

costs a lot of Grasp though

[zenith bolt]

true

[tired fulcrum]

demeter start > gets serene gain

[bleak night]

I've been doing 11 Grasp runs recently

[devout jungle]

what is max grasp? 30?

[zenith bolt]

no clue -3-

[dense heron]

The axe has the same kind of strategic feel to it in my opinion. Slow attacks but you can dash between individual hits in the combo to avoid damage and to position the hit. It lacks the defensive special and the huge health buff that Aspect of Arthur has, but the axe itself is also just basic aspects right now. If there's not hidden aspects to the weapons right now I'm sure there will be later.

[bleak night]

yeah, but you can technically get more than what the 30 allows you if you run Crystal + the last Arcana

[white steppe]

i just realized the only cast aspect is charon right? and charon is wack as hell

[mint cedar]

You can also get like +80% gold from free chaos boon and hit like 3k gold before final fight

[cinder palm]

That with hera and poseidon duo 😩

[lusty heron]

does twilights curse the morph hex work on bosses ?

[mint cedar]

No

[dark whale]

what artifact do yall take first?

[zenith bolt]

judgment seems neat

[lusty heron]

kk thx

[mint cedar]

The one I’m farming

[zenith bolt]

seems pretty rng though, but i guess rewards being skilled

[dark whale]

fair lol

[dense heron]

How does one use Ygnium well? It feels kind of slow and clunky and not even very good DPS to me. Is it generally weak or just not my style of weapon?

[mint cedar]

If I wasn’t farming it’d be chaos

[bleak night]

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Trying to see if doing these is even worth

[dark whale]

is chaos' artifact really that good?

[mystic shell]

I was going to ask the same, how are you building this one? I can't seem to do damage with it

[mint cedar]

And the I pick some common boon I want and make it heroic after the first guardian

[zenith bolt]

it depends on what the keepsake is at max rank i feel

if you can thug it out for the first couple areas, i think it could be strong

[mint cedar]

Just gamble

[bleak night]

About to become rank 2, if it activates 2 after a Guardian fight, then it'll be worth

[tired fulcrum]

Just have some of that skill based rng

[dark whale]

lol

[dense heron]

I usually start off with Silken Sash because I can build up a ton of armor by the second area

[bleak night]

8 inactive Arcana cards per boss beat

[tired fulcrum]

Im pretty sure you keep chaoses keepsake boom even if you take it off

[zenith bolt]

isnt the keepsake only for 1 guardian

[white steppe]

who do you get that from

[dark whale]

if you take off silken sash do you keep the armor?

[mint cedar]

You do keep it

[bleak night]

Haven't tried yet lol, only doing it rn

[dense heron]

Yes

[tired fulcrum]

And max rank is epic so that some pretty big high rolling potential

[zenith bolt]

the keepsake is ||circe||, judgment is an arcana

[mental sierra]

I just got a 70% attack damage increase + a Daedulus hammer for the axe that makes my attack 300 base? uhhhh lol this is gonna be fun

[bleak night]

be careful with that though

[dark whale]

other than poseidon special spam what other builds do yall use for the staff?

[dense heron]

That one is tricky to use, because it makes your one attack the really slow final hit.

[bleak night]

slow initial attack and slow recovery afterwards

[mental sierra]

Yeahhh I’ve noticed

[zenith bolt]

i usually use axe spinny

[mental sierra]

lol it’s gonna be tough

[bleak night]

same

[zenith bolt]

does stupid damage

shreds 2nd boss

[white steppe]

poseidon attack w zoos chain lightning and the hold to attack hammer, pretend you're playing achilles spear

[dark whale]

interesting

[zenith bolt]

and all you really need is a decent magick regen boon + weed killer

[dark whale]

i like the staff omega attack too much, but i'm willing to give that a try

[white steppe]

ive never used staff omega attack lul

[modest dome]

Hey guys ! Hope you are having fun !
I was wondering: What combo would you advice on twin blades, easy win strat ?

[zenith bolt]

ive said this already but holy crap is demeter's magick regen boon so unbeliveably bad

[white steppe]

poseidon attack is extremely free

[dense heron]

Hermes has a few boons that area really good with the axe. His increased attack speed boons are really nice. Most of Apollo's boons are good too, because the axe thrives on max area coverage

[zenith bolt]

"inactive" means entirely afk, not moving or attacking

[bleak night]

speaking of that, there's a Chaos Trial with the 300 damage Axe Chop with a levelled up Apollo Attack boon. It's fun to test it out

[granite sierra]

aphro + sureshot flurry hammer + hook knives hammer

[white steppe]

have you cleared the 5 min timer one for fields of mourning and dog? i have no idea how thats possible currently

[simple jasper]

Pan aspect, Poseidon special, Apollo "extra damage from backstabs to dazed" with a way to apply it, the "specials return to you and backstab enemies", and one other special related hammer

Bonus points for Aphro or Demeter casts

[granite sierra]

or aphro + the hammer that makes you omega attack do a +400% damage explosion

[modest mauve]

hey whats the better weapon for a more aggressive playstyle

[bleak night]

I haven't done the new set of Chaos Trials yet, but what is that one called ?

[tired fulcrum]

Axe and spin

[split igloo]

Do yall have a good speedrunning build you can recommend?

[granite sierra]

probably blades

[zenith bolt]

axe spin has high damage and pretty fast with the hammer for movement

[white steppe]

trial of haste i think, they give you a staff omega attack build w apollo w the hammer where the omega attack hits twice

it doesnt do high enough dmg to clear cerberus in time imo

[dense heron]

It's quite strong in my experience. The regen is extremely fast so if you can hold still for even like 2 seconds you get a ton of magick back through it. It's usually easy enough to find yourselfa little time, though it becomes very difficult to make use of during bosses, which I suppose is when you need it most.

[bleak night]

Oh, I used that for one of my first clears

[fierce dust]

Unlock the skull aspect that turns you into a walking bomb and you'll change your mind xD

[bleak night]

I tried that one, it's kinda ass ngl

[fierce dust]

Ye but pretty fun for first area then impossible

[zenith bolt]

you basically have to use omega special to make it function at all

[shy summit]

I concur it is actually quite good

[granite sierra]

i hate the skulls, they dont click with me at all. i know a lot of peole like them, but im gonna stick to melee for now

[tired fulcrum]

Clearance sale beowulf

[devout jungle]

||pan|| + poseidon attack + spiral knifes (aphro attack + concentrated flurry) is much better imo

[fierce dust]

i prefer Witch staff and spamming posiedon boon on special, i did first clear without even using any majicka just spam special

Witch staff has the best hammers imo

[long osprey]

Does ||Chronos|| count as a guardian? I.E. Would the ||Knuckle Bones keepsake|| work on him?

[granite sierra]

he has a healthbar, so yes

[split igloo]

How does the game play in comparison to Hades 1? Does it feel as flowy?

[thin lantern]

Demeter's magick boon should be 0.5 seconds...

[granite sierra]

imo, the flow isnt quite as good since you cant cancel by dashing. still fun though

[primal kiln]

Assistance needed! Stuck at Cerebus... What builds are recommended?

[dense heron]

Axe, staff, and blades all seem good in my experience. Axe and blades especially, the staff is more versatile but a bit less raw power.

[long osprey]

Alright bet, I was unsure of the definition of 'guardian' in this context

[gleaming flame]

Combat feels slower on your end

[bleak night]

what's your playstyle ?

[primal kiln]

Axe/ Speed Hammer/ Double Strike

[fierce dust]

High dmg on axe or distance high dmg on witch staff and spam. He is fairly easy to predict to dodge attacks after 2/3 tries.

[granite sierra]

i dont like using ||pan||, mainly because i dont cast that often

[primal kiln]

I've been play around with all 5 weapons atm... I can get to Cerebus with Staff/Dagger/Scythe & Axe thus far

[zenith bolt]

guardians are named bosses with large hp bars

[split igloo]

Any builds more equipped to a better flowing/faster combat style you know of? I enjoy speedrunning so was curious of builds. I'm buying it tonight :p

[zenith bolt]

that is to say, yeah.

[fierce dust]

Cherbydis is the easiest boss in the game

[zenith bolt]

erm, hecate

[bleak night]

Oh, if you're on Axe then just block the large projectiles he sends out, and do charged up spins to attack, because you can dash to cancel the animation unlike the Axe swings

[devout jungle]

you have to give it a go, its not even comparable. with ONLY rare pos attack + spiral knives you can 4shot ||cerberus||

[patent prairie]

Any tips for Cronus He absolutely stomps me. Half a health bar is my best so far.

[cloud scarab]

The hex that does 1k damage in an area is good vs Cerberus, because he mainly stays stationary. So anything that lets you spam magic a lot to build up that hex quickly is good.

[granite sierra]

blades are gonna be your weapon then, they're the fastest, and can also dish out the biggest damage numbers ive seen with them

[primal kiln]

I had a Dagger/Scythe Backstab build that did some insane White Damage, very fast

...like +1600%

[dense heron]

Each aspect has its own playstyle, sometimes it's fun and/or beneficial to change your playstyle if your usual one isn't working well or if you're getting a bit bored. ||Aspect of Pan|| was really good when I used it, one of my farthest runs. I almost never use specials OR casts with the blades but I made an exception for that aspect and it worked great.

[fierce dust]

Apollo also gives a backstack dmg bonus btw for blades builds. Super strong if you get full aspect level, hammer and apollo boon

[split igloo]

Damn, I'll look into those, thank you 😮

[devout jungle]

backstab is fun to jump around with omega attack but ||pan|| is just overtuned, especially when every hammer makes it busted

[split igloo]

I might be back in here later looking for some boon advice lol

[neat badge]

Ive descovered that the dagger backstab with the charge attack is extremly good and does up to 2k damage

[bleak night]

when running that aspect, you want to asap find a Cast that makes it ranged, right ?

[split igloo]

Do the charge attacks feel like bow from h1?

[fierce dust]

i usually use demeter for slow while im smashing skulls 🙂 Aphro weak also v v helpful

[devout jungle]

not really honestly, you pop it down, charge it and anything dies. as i said, its 2 cast per ||cerb|| phase, he cant even use abilities that you have to dodge

[bleak night]

oh, I meant the aspect in general

[devout jungle]

you dont have to stay ranged if you just 1tap anything

it would make sense but the damage in its current state just makes the ranged cast not important

[bleak night]

I really enjoyed the Chiron Bow in the first game, so this aspect seems like it'd appeal to me

[primal kiln]

I'm sorry, but what does "pan" stand for? << Neophyte with H2 acronyms

[devout jungle]

aspect

[dense heron]

How good are hexes?

[devout jungle]

of the sister blades

[bleak night]

I only ever really enjoy the Hex that allows me to heal lol

[zenith bolt]

some of them are super bad and some of them are very good

[split igloo]

I think it's the God Pan it's referring to

[zenith bolt]

the invuln form is really trashy, as is the ray without upgrades

[tired fulcrum]

Its a name. Pan is some satyr in mythology or something

[cloud scarab]

the healing one is pretty dope I feel... and the 1k aoe dmg one is nice, but feels bad when it misses.

[bleak night]

I thought the Moon Beam was really good, but I stood there eating hits from enemies

[zenith bolt]

heal is good and the delayed high damage aoe is good too

[split igloo]

Pan is god of the wild things

[vast quartz]

How do the hex upgrade points accumulate? Is it 1 per room or how does that work

[bleak night]

so, yeah, I just pray my Hex is the healing thing

[split igloo]

He was the only god in Greek mythology to apparently die (to my knowledge)

[bleak night]

you can upgrade whenever you find Selene again

[cloud scarab]

you can find single upgrades, but if it is a room bonus I think you get 3

[primal kiln]

Ahh, I haven't unlocked him yet... but am about to... does he show up in the Overworld or Underworld?

[mental sierra]

I beat the first Surface boss like, CRAZY, fast with this

[vast quartz]

Yes but how do you accumulate points lol, as you start with 4 is it always 1 after?

[tired fulcrum]

No its an aspect for the dagger

[bleak night]

weapon variant, not an actual NPC

[tired fulcrum]

He doesnt actually show up in person

[devout jungle]

||pan|| is a sister blade aspect enhancing the specials

[cloud scarab]

no, when you get another bonus you get 3... unless it is one of those mini boons they are worth 1 point

[vast quartz]

Ah okay thanks

[tired fulcrum]

Its based on the moon variation whatsit when you select your hex boon. It tells you in the tooltip when hovering over it when you get the hex

[zenith bolt]

top is 3, middle is 4, bottom is 5
you can tell by the moon phases when selecting a hex

[cloud scarab]

TIL

[primal kiln]

Thank you for the clarification. So what Cauldron Upgrade unlocks the Weapon Enhancement? I have all but 2 unlocked at the presentand have fought the Cyclops in the Overworld.

[tired fulcrum]

Idk what the requirements are prob unlock all base weapons and fighting hecate a bunch

[devout jungle]

i'd guess its owning all weapons + beating hecate 10x

[zenith bolt]

honestly the real tip here is to hover over things and read the tooltips

[dense heron]

It seems to be 3 points each time you get the Path of Stars upgrade, but depending on the moon phase of the one you selected your first time upgrading it will get 0, 1, or 2 extra points. You can also get extra points from Selene's keepsake

[fierce dust]

just unlock all weapons once then fight hecate and you get the unlock

[primal kiln]

I've beaten Hecate far more than 10x, probably 30+ times thus far

[devout jungle]

but you dont have all weapons right?

[zenith bolt]

it might be "do x runs with each wep" but idk

[devout jungle]

definitely not needed

u can onetrick one weapon and get it

[primal kiln]

I have everything, ....Skull, Torches, Axe, Dagger/Scythe/Staff & all Mat farming items: Fishing Pole/Spade/Mining Pick/Runestone

[fierce dust]

maybe need to progress the incantations further first

[devout jungle]

yea something about incantations then probably, maybe gather tools level 2?

[fierce dust]

not needed

[supple heart]

does anyone know if volcanic flourish is supposed to be able to proc multiple times a second?

[tacit silo]

Have you unlocked the animal companion incantation

[tender flint]

can some explain how aspect of artemis work so is it after i use my omega attack or while im channeling I get a parry

[devout jungle]

channeling

[zenith bolt]

while channeling it

[tender flint]

so while im channeling just so I understand if an enemy attacks me there is a chance to parry

[primal kiln]

Yes, and I made the Familiar Item... I haven't used it yet as I wanted to use it on the Cat in the first Area

[devout jungle]

there is a 100% of not getting hit, but the shield goes on a small cooldown

[tired fulcrum]

You can see that the parry is active by the acorn shield around you

[zenith bolt]

you will parry, it has a cooldown

[tender flint]

got it cool

[dense heron]

Same, but I almost never get that one, and when I do I forget I can use it.

They all feel clunky to me, and using them only disrupts the flow of combat for me while usually not doing much more for me than I would've gotten just continuing to attack normally. I only get good value from the healing one and from the dark side/transforming one but only for the invincibility and not for the damage. The invincibility time goes well with any perks that require you to stop moving, but also let's you get free damage with little to no risk. But then you are also vulnerable in the time it takes to activate it so it's nearly as bad as not using it.

[primal kiln]

Is there a difference between what familiar you choose? Other than looks?

[wet nova]

they have passives

[devout jungle]

you have familiars BEFORE aspects?? you definitely didnt unlock a necessairy incantation

[dense heron]

I only have one familiar. But Frinos allows you to pacify lost souls. I assume other familiars can fish or mine or etc. They also likely have their own passive buffs. Frinos grants +10 base HP.

[primal kiln]

Nice! ... So can you befriend more than one Familiar and choose the one with the passive that suits your build?

[wet nova]

well so far they dont really fit to particular builds id say

like cat gives DD

[primal kiln]

+% Direct Damage?

[wet nova]

death defiance

[celest swallow]

death defiance

[dense heron]

I think I got familiars before aspects as well. Just how it is when you don't have the materials for one incantation but do have the materials for another, I guess. I just do incantations when I can, in whatever order I can.

[primal kiln]

Ahh , ok :) That's VERY strong!

Cat >>> Frog :)

[devout jungle]

nvm, i think its normal, i just got cattails wayyyyyyyyyyyy too late

[wet nova]

its not a strong death defiance but I wont say its not useful cos it let me get a dub at 10 hp lol

[primal kiln]

I was running to the overworld and farming mats very fast prior to unlocking the DoT effect elixir

[dense heron]

Is it like 10 HP Death Defiance?

[wind parcel]

not really, since its 10hp dd
AND frog blocks projectiles

[primal kiln]

so I got some stuff in a strange order...like Bronze and Plants that I probably wasn't, supposed to have yet

[dire dome]

what aspect do you guys recommend for Sister Blades?

[wind parcel]

pan is chiron bow from hades1
artemis is big dmg 1shot (my highest was 2025 on last boss)

[simple jasper]

All three are good tbh. Pan is really fun

[devout jungle]

melinoe for funsies, pan to make the game easy asf

[pseudo pond]

Hmm, are there any consistent weapon/boon builds, not sure if it’s just me, but hades 2 base difficulty seems a lot harder compared to hades 1. Enemy shields are insane, and they do a lot more damage while bullet hell is denser.

[dire dome]

word, ty

[dense heron]

Frinos is 10 HP but that applies all the time forever when active, and can benefit HP % scaling effects (like the basic Death Defiance, I think that usually heals a % of your HP). A 10 HP death defiance is significantly weaker than just 10 HP in general, but it can secure wins in tight situations and can proc effects related to Death Defiance (though I don't know of many of those).

[primal kiln]

What Arcana Cards are best to upgrade 1st?

[dire dome]

what

[wind parcel]

its very situational to compare tbh, cause imagine having 10hp base before getting hit for 30, if you had 20 (10+frog) then it changes nothing while 10+dd makes a huge difference
still i prefer froggo cause it also eats some projectiles which is huge

[simple jasper]

The best arcana cards to upgrade first are the ones you like to use? 🤷‍♂️

[wind parcel]

hp/mana per locations

[devout jungle]

depends on your build, some upgrades give crazy numbers when upgraded (in cast damage boost, priviliged status, missing magick %dmg) but u cant go wrong with hp/location and DD

[tacit silo]

That arcana is almost required for builds

[wind parcel]

unless going lowlife, lmao

[tacit silo]

I said almost for a reason

[wind parcel]

ik ik

too bad there's no just magick arcana cause having +base mana would be awesome if it wasnt tied to hp

[dire dome]

what exactly does pan do lol? i dont feel a difference 😭

[shrewd rivet]

What's everyone's opinions on the best Hexes
I like the laser beam and the healing of the ones I've tried

[devout jungle]

more daggers per omega special, daggers home in to enemies in your cast

definitely need some levels into it to make it broken

but levels are really easy to farm

[dense heron]

True. I mean 10 HP is always useful while Death Defiance for 10 HP is a bit of a gamble that may not help you, but also may help you a ton

[dire dome]

oh sick

[dire dome]

ngl i almost beat the game but died to chronos lol so i dont think i can get nightmares yet?

[devout jungle]

yeah you cant

[simple jasper]

Try it with poseidon special and then use your omega special on something in your cast

[devout jungle]

i beat my frist chronos with rank5 melinoe, it was fun but a lot weaker than pan

[dire dome]

oh damnnn no way

[devout jungle]

the big funny numbers when omega attacking are nice

[dire dome]

so lol, guess the question is: rank 5 melinoe or level 1 pan lol - what should i use?

[devout jungle]

uhhff, good question

[dire dome]

theres no way lol

[devout jungle]

id say rank5 melinoe and go aphro attack + demeter omega attack &amp

[wind parcel]

tbh its like chiron bow, before higher rank its not that great

[grizzled berry]

Small rant but I just got the Zeus sprint boon, then had a pomme that upgrades it and then choose the Aphrodite’s dash which overwrote the sprint? Didn’t know it could do that

[dire dome]

word, ty ill grind rank 5 meli then try this!

[devout jungle]

death to chronos :)

[dense heron]

I think backstab is slightly weakened compared to Hades 1 by the change in how dash works. But I can see both Melinoe and Pan aspects being really strong with the right setups.

[simple jasper]

Easy way to get backstabs is to use Demeter cast

[autumn compass]

how does one unlock the weapon aspects?

[simple jasper]

OR you can go special build with the returning special hammer on sister blades for pretty much guaranteed backstabs

Apollo is good with Pan for that same reason because he can give you a backstab damage to dazed enemies boon

[azure stratus]

||so I found Hades, any particular boon thats good? I got the restore HP on dmg one, the cast one, and the go Dark after taking damage||

[devout jungle]

apollo on pan seems weak asf

[dire dome]

incantation unlocked from... doing something? i dunno, i got to the final boss and i suddenly saw them in the incantations area, so id assume itd require you getting some distance in the last area

[simple jasper]

You only take him for the dash to daze things and the "backstab damage to dazed targets"

You're not using him for the special

[devout jungle]

ahh mb

[soft wadi]

Anybody else realize how crazy broken cast builds are?

[devout jungle]

thats really specific tho, not sure if actively going for it with keepsakes is worth at all

[simple jasper]

It's not worth actively going for, no

[devout jungle]

special, mana regen (+ ranged cast maybe) are the ones id go for

[dense heron]

In my opinion those boons are remarkably unremarkable for where they come from. The lifesteal one is the best one if you are in desperate need of HP. The rest are just like.. okayish.

[dire dome]

just a q, what cards do you use for a sister blade build?

[azure stratus]

That's what I'm seeing. I took the cast cause it sounded cool but its pretty bad

[earnest nacelle]

The shoot cast one was pretty good for me on a ranged staff build against chronos

So I can get the cast dmg bonus without getting close

[dense heron]

Perhaps something for feedback, because I think those perks could probably stand to be buffed a bit, as currently I'd take most other god boons over them if I had the choice.

[devout jungle]

1 and 6 is a must, 3 helps with room clear before getting mana regen, 19 is good to get high rarity special + some nice to haves like dd, hp per location, etc.

(for pan), for melinoe you might not need 6 if you are low on grasp

but for melinoe you definitely need 3

[dire dome]

bet, ty
also, im assuming you use a DD keepsake like C?

[sudden belfry]

question which god has the boons flutter strike and flutter flourish

[devout jungle]

it depends, when i was trying to get the win id equip it after ||cerberus||. you definitely start with aphro for the attack and then you can get mana regen if you got unlucky on region 2. for region 3, no clue honestly

[dire dome]

aphro's keepsake? sry

[devout jungle]

yes, for region 1. a mana regen keepsake for region 2 if you dont have it yet

"mana regen keepsake" = a god's keepsake, whose mana regen boon is good

[distant root]

dude it was my first try and i ALMOST had ||eris|| dead!!!! i had timer on and she was one hit away from death, daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn it

[dire dome]

ohh okay thank you

[sudden belfry]

is marauder slice good

[dire dome]

so when you say aphro's keepsake and then say "mana regen" would u be talking abt two different keepsakes or just all in aphro's keepsake lol

[devout jungle]

no, definitely not aphro's mana regen boon

because it doesnt even give mana regen, it spawns a damaging projectile after using some mana

some mana options to look for are poseidon, apollo, hestia

[keen sage]

That is a different boon. She does have a regen one, it's just awkward

[devout jungle]

really? ive looked for it for so long

[keen sage]

You regen mana while near weak foes

[devout jungle]

omg yeah

[keen sage]

Thank you, next lol

I avoid it only slightly less than I avoid Hephaestus' gain ability

[fluid quail]

apollo or aphrodite attack for axe?

[thin lantern]

Tbf, Heph gain can stack with Poseidon's DR boon, and on its own it's one of the six points for Coarse Grit. Not too bad actually.

[dire dome]

ohhh okay thank you

[thin lantern]

Apollo for ease of use. Aphrodite for big damage. Your call.

[dense heron]

I noticed a lot of the bosses have some kind of phase where they summon allies. Think they do this for the sake of having something to summon with the hex that summons a fallen enemy to fight by your side?

[fluid quail]

2 best options right?

[simple jasper]

Demeter is also really good

[fluid quail]

got a clear with the twin blades and the staff

dreading having to play with the wand and skull they suck.

[simple jasper]

Wand is fine, just go special build

[fluid quail]

with hestia or pos?

[sturdy crescent]

Hello, what are the best early good keepers to unlock with the nectar ?

[spark plover]

is there a way to get || new pets other than frinos||?

not finding the item anymore for the ritual thing

[fluid quail]

had this same question

[celest ermine]

I personally think hephaestus is good, the damage and the prime magick for armor boons are good

[slim cloud]

||Cant remember the trigger, but you get the option to brew two more in the cauldron later. ||. ||The cat does show back up afterwards for taming||

[lunar ether]

Hey guys, what is your current arcane go to?

[slim cloud]

Hard agree. Also found Hestia on daggers to do insane dps early on.

[celest ermine]

Boatman and eternity are a must

[marble raptor]

Sweet liberty, the Aspect of Medea skull really needs a change. It's so utterly bad

[sturdy crescent]

thx for you answers guyz !

[celest ermine]

For me at least, If you’re gamer you can go without eternity

[slim cloud]

If you have potential changes in mind or specific critiques, feel free to drop them in #h2-feedback !!

[marble raptor]

Honest to god, i do not know how you can salvage this weapon 😂 It's so clunky to play with.

What they want it to do, it does wonderfully well, it's just an impossible playstile

[lunar ether]

Do you think this arcane build is good enough? https://imgur.com/a/ykWOMfw
I don't know if I should take the one that give me +30 on rare boons

[dense heron]

I got the Twilight Curse hex in the first room and activated it, where it promptly hit a tree and did absolutely nothing -_-

[steel walrus]

whats the best axe hammer?

[marble raptor]

The one you throw probably

Charged Attack can be thrown for damage. It's probably the most consistent of them

[lunar ether]

+50% faster on your technic or charge attack

[marble raptor]

The Special 50% charge attack has a big downside, it makes blocking pretty much impossible

[eternal shard]

what aspects have people been finding success with? I really like the mel staff, but haven't really tried any of the others. The ui for the persephone skull is so bad that I can't tell when it's charged so that was kind of a bust for me

[eager dove]

anyone have advice on getting used to the dash having inherent delay, on top of the game buffering your dashes? All the time I find myself trying to dodge something but by the time Mel actually dashes its either too late or the delay made it so I'm dashing into danger.

Its just so difficult to build an intuition for when she's going to move, because its not close to "when you hit the button".

[dense heron]

I had the same issue. I'm mostly used to it now. The key for me was dash less, sprint more

[eager dove]

but you can only dash by sprinting 🤔

I mean sprint by dashing**

[dense heron]

Get used to holding dash instead of tapping it

[fossil matrix]

its definitely an issue of too much hades 1 muscle memory, it REALLY bothered me at first but 8 hours in its starting to feel fine

[fossil matrix]

this helps a lot

[dense heron]

Another thing that bothered me is casts and specials swapping names. Took a while to get used to Cast = Q ability and Special = right-click ability. In Hades 1 it was the other way around.

[wicked pumice]

with the Engagement Ring boon, my "who kills more" against Nemesis was incredibly easy :D
just pressed Q every ten seconds or so, and got 23 vs 4

[fossil matrix]

you can rebind everything in the menu, I have cast on mb4 and love it

[modern yacht]

Just lost to ||eris||, she was at like 50hp fml

[distant root]

spoiler btw, but dude same thing happened to me

[dense heron]

The cast also feels a bit awkward to me, because it doesn't seem to do any damage by default unless it's charged, and that makes it feel kind of like it does almost nothing until you get boons that make it do something.

[modern yacht]

Oh shoot my b

[rare brook]

Damn, got to ||Chronos|| but I need to learn to dogde ||his weapon that deals 32 dmg||

[supple heart]

they hit like a truck

[fossil matrix]

what bothers me about cast is how inconsistent it is, like sometimes it seems to root armor/bosses, and sometimes it doesnt seem to affect them at all

[paper tapir]

any tips to avoid hecate's hex? like i've tried dodging it again and again but even that takes about 10+ seconds for the projectile to disappear

[spark warren]

i think its best to just run towards the hex immediately, the longer i stall it the more enemies you need to deal with later

[vague solstice]

Dodge into it

[supple heart]

ive found doing a dodge towards it just as it gets close makes it easier

[rare brook]

Seriously, I feel like it's harbour labour pact from Hades 1

[paper tapir]

well thats kinda annoying lmao, thanks

[dense knoll]

accept your life as a sheep. can dodge towards it then back and forth. worked once for me 😦

[eager dove]

I'm definitely been getting better at it, but part of me just feels like its always going to feel inherently unintuitive to have "hit the button" and "do the thing" be so temporally disconnected.

Makes me imagine trying to play mario 64 if mario needed a solid squat time before every jump.

[spark warren]

it doesnt last that long and when there arent many mobs to deal with its really easy

[lime eagle]

Dash through it, twice is enough

[vague solstice]

What’s your favorite weapon so far ?

[supple heart]

I prefer the twin flames

[dense knoll]

AXE. spin to win

[slim cloud]

THIS!

[modern yacht]

high level ||hera|| cast feels like crack

[slim cloud]

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[spark warren]

flames, good with increased special speed and hammer for + damage for specials and getting demeter on anything just rules

[vague solstice]

It’s scepter for me but I didn’t won a run yet. Need to find a good build

[spark warren]

demeter is cracked fr

i also like zeus cast it just works

the one that pulses lightning not the one you call down

[modern yacht]

It was axe, but flames have grown on me. They need a little to get going, but they are so fun

[supple heart]

my one clear was as a result of some decent Zeus drops

[distant root]

anyone got some favourite aspects? personally melinoe dagger is my fave

[slim cloud]

Oh yea. Heroic Hera sprint into an Axe combo is insane. Demeter def feels better to play this game - not like she was bad before.

[distant root]

base backstab dmg is crazy good, and it's insane when you use the 200% backstab hammer too

[vague solstice]

Tried them but it was hard for me to play with. I need to retry

[rare brook]

Anyway, how to get bronze?

[spark warren]

freeze was a soft cc before but now considering that it is a hard cc and everything just spams it's like a must

[distant root]

||in the first area of the surface||

[rare brook]

Witch staff, seems solid for everything

[modern yacht]

If you get a good mana re gen then you are basically set. You just hold attack until you run out then spam special until magic is back

[supple heart]

and how does one get there

[modern yacht]

Incantation

[spark warren]

beat the sirens ridiculously quickly with 30 damage on me with that flames build i was talking about and its my first time this far yet

[rare brook]

I need to somehow ||unlock gate to surface||

[vague solstice]

I always try to build around special I should try attack

[modern yacht]

Which build?

[spark warren]

|| hecate unlocks it and you need the cauldron for it - apparently also chaos||

[distant root]

||talk to chaos enough times||

[tender flint]

are hestia or apollo good on blink daggers specifically from aspect of artemis

[spark warren]

demeter special with poms + zeus pulse lightning bind, hammer for special size, damage - oh yeah, also prime for + damage

[modern yacht]

I did. You should try to get a good special, but the attack spam is what I enjoy. Plus it builds Hex extremely fast

[distant root]

ngl hephaestus boons seem largely useless when you consider how much damage you can pump out otherwise

[spark warren]

hex is great but getting there feels kind of slow with flames attack actually reconsidering, plus priming for damage actually scales a lot better in flames

[rare brook]

Sometimes RNG is rigged - seems like I need to |force through Charon apperances of Chaos||

[modern yacht]

The heroic attack is nuts though, especially on axe with the 300dmg hammer upgrade

[rare brook]

From Hephaestus I recommend sprint or cast - always work. Then get his curse of additional nuke

[supple heart]

the hammer damage from casting can come in handy

[open rain]

I really want to get an all running build

[modern yacht]

Usually I aim for the nightmare hex that only costs 90. Usually works well with flames

[wet nova]

once you get frog familiar, you can let it tank it

thats what Im doing rn at least

[spark warren]

i was adamantly defending heph flames attack before because it is ridiculously strong and frequent with flames which also gets you hex options
but building it up requires a lot - and from roguelike experiences i am overall having lately overinvesting in one idea is just no

the older hades game let us work around that a lot through rerolls and certainties but this one doesnt feel like it yet (maybe i need to progress more first)

[fossil matrix]

how are you supposed to avoid the big circle of flames that moves towards the center in chronos phase 2? do you have to dash through it? it seems like standing in the middle doesnt work

[modern yacht]

Nothing like getting to the second boss with the flames, but no mag regen boon.

[sudden belfry]

oh my god ||scylla is so hard||
tips........

or builds idk

[lusty heron]

aoe is nice and focus the drummer is what i did

[signal mantle]

Kronos hard or I suck

I lose so much health dear god

[lusty heron]

when do testaments reset/change ? is it after every run ?

[steel walrus]

wait did they just add this skill wepon?

skull

[modern yacht]

I can't find the ||g-rock|| to unlock the skull weapon

[unreal swan]

If its granite, its on 2nd floor

[modern yacht]

No I think it's called ||glassrock||

[dark whale]

Would y'all say Apollo on twin blades is viable or should I stick with Poseidon

[lime eagle]

3rd floor

[modern yacht]

I swear I've never seen a mining terminal in the 4 times I've been there

[signal mantle]

Why not aphro?

[lime eagle]

They're rarer than the others but they do show up

[dark whale]

No crowd control

[fossil matrix]

just did a blade run where I got apollo legendary and it did giga damage

seems decent at least

[dark whale]

Also what is the best axe build y'all have found? I feel like Apollo or Aphrodite on the main attack would be cracked

[modern yacht]

I got the poseidon/ hepheastus cast boon plus the zeus add-on. Nice 700 dmg per omega every 15 seconds

[dark whale]

Duo boon?

[vague solstice]

Hex ?

[modern yacht]

The things you get from ||selene||

[vague solstice]

There is duo boon in hades II ? Didn’t see any yet

[vague solstice]

Oh that’s the English name okay

[modern yacht]

They're there. There is also an arcana card to boost the chances

[vague solstice]

I should sleep but … steam deck is near me and hades is in my mind

I will try this attack build

Scepter with Zeus special could be good too I think

[drowsy magnet]

i need to vent a bit, so i got to the final boss || and oh my god cronos is like playing a different game. Small room, hella enemies, absurd damage (im still getting like 4 tapped at almost 300 health????) it feels like such an absurd difficulty spike out of nowhere. I just got to get good but man, it is really frustrating to have an entire run and get dispatched in like 2 minutes after holding one revive and full health in tartarus. ||

[spark warren]

your build should let you move around easily plus the drummer's aoe is nasty, the guitarist stuns and dashes so be careful, the singer is the tankiest, keeps blocking and doesnt do much otherwise

[split igloo]

I'm digging the sister blades so far, but I find the staff a bit clunky. How is everyone else finding it, any tips to get better?

[spark warren]

any tips for styx? || cerberus' aoe feels a bit unpredictable and the mobs he spawns are quite strong, could get to like 60% of his hp at most || - i fear there is no special point to it, just be strong and fast? have a bit of a reach? meleeing this seems a bit scary

[devout jungle]

the hardest part about him is that he has 2 dodge timings, one for 2hand slams and one for 1hand slams. if you can differentiate them and act accordingly it makes the fight a lot easier

[dark whale]

Apollo omega cast

[drowsy magnet]

for the flame balls you can usually get out of the way no harm. he slams on the ground you usually have to dash preemptively but i think reacting to it is not very hard? you can i frame dodge with no much difficulty. You can melee ||cerberus|| but yea, be aware of when he does the melee ones and just circle around

[devout jungle]

attacks like ||the fire skull thingy and the big red circles|| dont do a lot

[spark warren]

yeah, figures it felt like he had two attacks in that "one" circle attack

[devout jungle]

where he makes the arena smaller?

that part is a damage check, with the right build he doesnt even get to cast any abilities before the phase ends

with a decent build*

[drowsy magnet]

i feel like ||at the second phase when he almost covers the arena in aoe explosions finding a safe spot if you decide to go to the wrong direction is a bit tough|| but other than that pretty easy. also the one where he starts ||slamming the ground non stop|| is BRUTAL if you are not paying attention

[white vessel]

whats a good build?

[devout jungle]

the ||non stop slamming|| is annoying because you cant really do damage, especially if you are melee, but its max 1 hit to tank because he just walks past usually

[fringe mantle]

Genuinely how are you supposed to beat ||Chronos? I do not see how it's possible to dodge the scythe attacks, he literally turns to you the second he does it, and then instantly swipes, I saw the "just stay behind him tip, but it just doesn't work? he turns to you when he attacks||

like as far as I can tell those attacks are genuinely not avoidable

[devout jungle]

you can get out of range of that attack, but being that paranoid of it loses a lot of damage, so just iframe it

[fringe mantle]

but it is instant, there's no time to even attempt to dodge it

[devout jungle]

ofc there is

how many times have u tried the fight?

[fringe mantle]

3 so far, each time died to the same attack being spammed

[drowsy magnet]

one time he ran into me and did like 100 in no time LMAO

[devout jungle]

after only 3 tries you arent focused on him yet

[drowsy magnet]

i feel like you need

[devout jungle]

a few more and dodging that attack will be second nature

[bright garden]

holy crap, anyone have any tips for ||eris||, I have no clue how to beat her once she starts powering up, I'm running for my life more than I can actually deal damage, and it takes like 1 shot for me to die at that point.

[grand gale]

what do ||frinos as a familiar|| do?

[drowsy magnet]

at least 5 tries to get a good grasp of ||the first phase alone||

[fringe mantle]

Nothing has changed from attempt 1 to 3 though, the attack is still as instant and as targeted

[somber kettle]

It's not spam he has a combo string, you will identify it if you see it more times. I do agree clutter is an issue tho
||I finally beat phase 1 on my 7th try and am now daunted at the prospect of phase 2 don't know why it didn't cross my mind||

[lilac vault]

i get through phase 1 with hit and run but im stuck on 2 rn xD

[devout jungle]

there are only a certain amount of attacks he can do, each with a seperate wind-up to let you know what is about to come. none of his attacks are instant

[white steppe]

wait why does the moros' keepsake work like that lmao, if you die and use a death defiance it starts the cooldown anyway and kills you again

[bright garden]

to be fair, i did get my ass handed by ||charybdis|| not even 1 encounter before that, so i was in a rough spot. But it still feels like the fight is rather tough for casual players, which would be me.

[drowsy magnet]

btw is the third weapon good

[eager dove]

||Whyyyyy are the 4 circle pools in Boss 2's arena the EXACT size that dashing across them fails only if you happen to dash exactly across the center of them||

[drowsy magnet]

it feels clunky from what i could try with schelemeus

[woven bough]

Hello, been grinding out Hades 2, I'm looking for dagger build advice?

[eager dove]

||oh no wait it only fails if you dash exactly horizontally across the center||

[lilac vault]

thats legit where im at rn xD dont know the solution to that

[willow phoenix]

Anyone knows what the death defiance upgrade for the dark form does? I tried it twice and it never gave me any death defiance.

[somber kettle]

The ||torches|| are underrated imo, they have low base stats but the best thing about them is that they hit so many times both attack and special. So if you get the right boons it stacks like crazy

[devout jungle]

just like ||boss 4's scythe attack|| its probably ment to be iframed, since when you are ||hitting the drummer, the circles can span at the edge of the arena where you are standing, and dashing into a "safe place" will get you hit by the very next wave||

[drowsy magnet]

oh maaakes sense, like stuff with zeus hestia and such right

[vast quartz]

I don't think the criticism is particularly that they're bad, but unfun, tho I disagree with both I love all the weapons

[somber kettle]

Yes

[eager dove]

@ronix I'm talking about the terrain, not hitboxes

[zenith wigeon]

ive realized why my silver wheel didnt work and this brings me here: silver wheel + a build of high usage mana + chaos's boon where when you sprint, it uses -5 is not a fun combo yall LOL

[indigo arch]

third weapon is ||the twin flame right? honestly even with some attempts it still feels clunky to me. i feel better using the special and omega special over the attack||

[eternal shard]

if you've unlocked aspects, pan dagger is very fun

[devout jungle]

ah mb, u can dash thru those luckily

[eager dove]

you cant horizontally though

[rare brook]

Is there a way to check ingame what are duos and legendaries? I want to know path to them

[eager dove]

left to right fails haha

[woven bough]

Aaah, Im working towards getting the components

Do you have any boon/hammer picks? I duuno why but my attempts with the daggers usually fall flat

[paper tapir]

where do i get bronze? need it for fishing

[supple basalt]

surface

[paper tapir]

thanks, guess im just unlucky

[supple basalt]

i'm about to go crazy with the health scaling in this game

[eternal shard]

Honestly I don't love the daggers a ton, I think the base weapon is pretty lackluster. I think special builds work well though. I think when I was on base daggers the hammers that make it shoot straight, with a flat damage boon like poseidon did pretty well

[supple basalt]

i can't make funny builds anymore

only op buids that instakill everythingo or i can't even kill the bandit on 4 area

[paper tapir]

have u replied to the wrong person?

[devout jungle]

yeah it popped up ;-;

[eternal shard]

I've found the origination and furies basically make any build feel like they hit hard enough to clear

[devout jungle]

for melinoe aphro attack demeter omega attack &amp + any attack hammer
for pan poseidon attack + good mana regen + any special hammer

[woven bough]

I see, thats fair!

[woven bough]

Aaaah, good to know, thanks

[eternal shard]

someone teach me how to use the fire sticks though, those feel so bad to me

[tall notch]

So far the best way to go about them I found was to swap for mouse and keyboard whenever I play them. Being able to aim them independently of the direction of movement seems really, really crucial for doing anything interesting with the attack

[strong cave]

So uh
Soot sprint completely removes difficulty from Eris

Every normal shot of hers is destroyed by it

[eternal shard]

I don't have a ton of trouble aiming, I just feel like they do no damage

[tall notch]

Do you have access to weapon aspects yet?

[eternal shard]

Yeah, which one is good

[prisma wharf]

Why is the final location so crazy omg

[azure stratus]

I have a demeter axe attack build, should I take the big chop with 300 power or the one that makes my final move hit twice? I have plenty of mana regen and mana pool

[lusty heron]

cause its the final location ?

[tall notch]

I am getting some pretty decent results with ||Eos||

[hazy bridge]

is there a list of duo boons somewhere?

[fluid quail]

is pos special just the best thing in the game

[modern yacht]

Prolly the 2 hit.

So you can make more freeze

[rare brook]

Yeah, I want it too, so far I only got Hestia - Demeter duo (which is quite good)

[wet nova]

Has anyone got axe as their grave thirst weapon at all?

[celest swallow]

Yep

[wet nova]

40 runs+ and I don’t recall ever getting it since I usually play with grave thirst weapon

Damn I guess I’m super unlucky cos not a single time yet

I feel bad cos I wanna play it more but I need my boness

[azure stratus]

my god its nasty

[eager dove]

Does apollo special even work on the torches? I cant tell if the area is bigger at all

[prisma wharf]

Should i try and find charon and use as much gold cause i have so much or just go for kronos?

I wouldnt be able to even use all my gold

F it im balling it

Nvm i found out

[devout jungle]

haha

[azure stratus]

your first mistake is using torches

[storm flame]

Aspect of Pan + 2 Specials Hammers + Aphrodite close dmg
I 1 shot everything in front of me xDDDD 2.2k attacks

[lament spruce]

So, I just got the Argent Skull. It looks pretty interesting, though I'm not sure what I'm suppose to do with it

[modern yacht]

I will not take flames slander in my christian hades server

[azure stratus]

i tried so hard to like it

[modern yacht]

I thought they were cringe too until they helped me beat ||cerberus||

[opal sleet]

what's wrong with torch? I run aprodite special and it hit like a truck, more so if you have that hammer for special

[wet nova]

Staff special is better torch basic attack😭

[azure stratus]

yoo do i take chronos -20% life or -50% chronos summoned foes

[wet nova]

Foes

[azure stratus]

thx shawty

[wet nova]

That 20% life could be done in the time you kill those 50% foes

[icy quail]

How does the oath of the unseen work? Do you have to clear a run with each weapon at every fear?

Like 0 fear with all 5 weapons

[cunning warren]

torches are great, I beat chronos without using any death defiances with them

[icy quail]

Then 1 fear with all 5 weapons?

[opal sleet]

my first clear with torch was actually cast + touch attack channel hold though

[cunning warren]

ok so get to 1 fear, then look at the pictures under the bosses on the screen and that will tell you what weapon to use

it confused me too

[icy quail]

Im still confused tbh

[opal sleet]

Hestia ranged cast + demeter freeze cast + demeter freeze tornado for cast
Zeus blitz attack and Zeus blitz explode when curse expire regardless

[cunning warren]

mine was just using the basic omega attack, I got it down to just using 1 mana per fire

I mean look in #h2-victory-boasting the screenshot is right there

[cunning warren]

yeah it's difficult to explain sorry

[devout jungle]

its simply kill <the boss on the picture> with <the weapon under it> on <the heat above the bosses picture> to get 1 nightmare

[cunning warren]

much better explanation

[devout jungle]

after you do that, you will get a different boss and heat for the same weapon, and after a few nightmares the weapon wont have more nightmare challanges

maybe if you clear 5 with all weapons then you get new ones?

[silent niche]

Would this be the correct channel to ask questions about boons?

[icy quail]

Ah i see. It still seems a bit weird. Suppose if you clear hecate with the specified weapon at heat 1, then you wont be able to clear any more heat for further bosses in that run with the same weapon?

[silent niche]

I have Bridal Glow currently (Your boons become heroic, and lose rarity every 7 encounters), and I have a hestia boon available that will give it up for health & magick. Wondering how that would work. Would the boons stay heroic and just not lower, or will it remove the heroic aspect altogether and they go back to normal?

[devout jungle]

you can do whatever you want at any time, the question is if you get nightmare for it

[cunning warren]

doesn't seem like it. I think they just wanted to make it different from the H1 mechanic

I think there's that issue a couple of times, if they make something the exact same as H1, then people say it's not original enough, but if they change it, people don't like it because A) H1 had very good mechanics already and B) people already got SUPER used to it

[supple basalt]

chronos is a strange difficult spike ngl

the game was a breeze until him

[devout jungle]

yea, its fun to check into the "omg broken hades 2 build" youtube video and watch them die at chronos haha

[cunning warren]

agreed, but he did only take me 3 attempts, unlike the 7 that Hades took me from the first game

[cunning warren]

💀 come on it's not that hard to find a good build

[icy quail]

Yeah i do get that. What was bothering me was the fact that like i said, you cant seem to clear 1 heat with a weapon at a single run like h1. If you clear first boss at heat 1, then second boss at heat 1 requires different weapon. So you basically have to play till the end or restart your run

[tired fulcrum]

Like moveset wise hes more like em4 dad than reg dad

[cunning warren]

I agree, it doesn't make sense at all as a system and prioritises just killing yourself

[icy quail]

Yeah if you are doing high heat runs, it basically kills the motive after you clear the specified boss

[supple basalt]

for me he was thouger than hads

[devout jungle]

thats not the point.. the best builds are easy to think of, atleast, without considering duo boons. its rather watching them try to make views off of the launch with the "insane op builds" while not even clearing the run

[supple basalt]

hades*

[cunning warren]

lol fair enough

[cunning warren]

meh I think I just struck upon a really good strategy in H2

[devout jungle]

what motive was there before for high heat runs? blood? haha

[cunning warren]

for me anyway

[devout jungle]

its a personal challange, like in h1

[supple basalt]

i'm really clueless i didn't have a felling with any weapon

[cunning warren]

unlocking the next heat level's rewards

[opal sleet]

build video is stupid in hades when you hardly got any control over what you can get due to limited reroll and heirloom choice anyway

[supple basalt]

AKA skelly statue

[icy quail]

Well the rewards, satisfaction, new dialogues

[devout jungle]

who said there arent skelly statues in h2:)

[cunning warren]

disagreed. I got pretty much the exact same run like 3 times in a row earlier with minor tweaks

[modern yacht]

I can barely get to the 3rd room of the 4th floor

[tired fulcrum]

You had a lot of control in hades 1 with maxed mirror and decent game knowledge

Main point of build rng was hammers

It was easy to go for a specific duo

[opal sleet]

we are talking about hades 2. I already 100% hades 1 so I know what's going on there but it doesn't happen like that in 2

[tired fulcrum]

Really? You get so many dice if you take the arcana

[opal sleet]

you get extra dices in hades 1 if you take specific reward, but arcana in hades 2 only go so far

[devout jungle]

you get to start a run with 8 dices tho

[tired fulcrum]

^

[supple basalt]

yeah

[tired fulcrum]

Is 8 even the max? I figured upgrades would allow more

[supple basalt]

what have they done with my beloved shield

[tired fulcrum]

Actually what even is the max arcana rank

[devout jungle]

wait it might be 10

[tired fulcrum]

3?

[supple basalt]

axe block is so small

[devout jungle]

ye it should be 10

[tired fulcrum]

If so then you get 10 die yeah

Like in hades 1 if you chose persuasion you only had 3 starting aint no way you get 7 keys in a run

[devout jungle]

i guess the 30 grasp arcana could look smt like this https://gyazo.com/a708aa777e8bf1365564a89bc2f71d6c

[tired fulcrum]

Is 30 the max?

[azure stratus]

can I unlock more dashes? I almost beat chronos phase 2 with just 1 and it feels so clunky compared to the first game

[devout jungle]

id guess so

[tired fulcrum]

No

[azure stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[cunning warren]

such a 💀 moment

that's the one singular thing I hope they change

[supple basalt]

for sure

[devout jungle]

ah i didnt red box arcana number 24

[supple basalt]

1 dash is so strange

[tired fulcrum]

Like tbh my main problem with sprint is that it doesnt really work well with your attacks like in 1

[cunning warren]

sprint is honestly garbage imo

[supple basalt]

sprint is a litle strante right now

[tired fulcrum]

No splash dash dashstrike spam

[knotty pilot]

unless you have the arcana upgrade it dosent even feel like an upgrade in speed

[supple basalt]

[icy quail]

I feel sprint is much better with how the combat is designed in h2.

[supple basalt]

the hermes boon that gave 2+ dash depending on rarity

[tender flint]

anyone understand what hephys legendary boon does caus im lost

[tired fulcrum]

Do you not have aspects unlocked?

[tender flint]

yeah

im using artemis rn

[tired fulcrum]

Well it makes more sense when you do

[tender flint]

im still confused

[tired fulcrum]

Like it just adds a level to the effect as if you upgraded it

[knotty pilot]

what weps do people like bc im stuck between axe and blades

[tender flint]

like upgrade in thew training grounds

if so thats incredibly broken

[tired fulcrum]

Yeah. Tbh it seems trash since its only 1 level

Like for a lot of aspects thats a 10% bonus to something random

[knotty pilot]

they have said they are adding more

[tender flint]

maybe i think its more for things that are level 1 to see how good it gets

[vernal quiver]

Genuinely curious what's yall opinion on the dash

[knotty pilot]

mediocre

[tribal nova]

need another

[tired fulcrum]

Maybe if it added 4 or 5

[tender flint]

maybe again whateves

[vernal quiver]

How come??

[cunning warren]

1 dash is not enough, now I can't play with any close range builds at all

[supple basalt]

^

[vernal quiver]

I'm ngl I genuinely feel like that's a skill issue(respectfully)

[tired fulcrum]

I mean you can melee pretty good but high heat melee sounds uh not safe

[vernal quiver]

I've won with Sister blades on a closer build, axe I had to be closer, and staff i did too since I was using aphrodite

[cunning warren]

💀 I've beaten Cronos without using a death defiance I don't think I'm having a skill issue

and my favourite weapon from H1 was the fists so I'm biased towards close range if anything

[modern yacht]

My only annoyance is sometimes dash delays a little after I press the button

[vernal quiver]

Hades 1 was no different :/ high heat is a whole different game

[tired fulcrum]

Idk my last run i beat chronos with spin to win axe without losing a dd though i was slightly abusing heal hex

[cunning warren]

who doesn't abuse hex heal it's mad op

[tired fulcrum]

Hades 1 dash strikes were op. Also you had stubborn defiance. For reference ive done 50 heat sword

[vernal quiver]

I've done 45 beat bow so ik how it feels

[wet nova]

What’s heal hex

[cunning warren]

from selene or whatever her name is,
25 base health heal but you can get it to like 45 and then make it stack so you have like 18 going into cronos

[vernal quiver]

But to give my opinion I feel like the dash is fine, it makes the combat feel more positional and intentional kinda like dark souls or monster hunter

[cunning warren]

well agree to disagree

[vernal quiver]

Like yea you can't mash and be safe, don't play stupid lol this game isn't as mashy as hades 1 and they wanted to give a different feel from zag and I feel people that just want zags dash don't see the purpose

[tired fulcrum]

Im fine with the dash itself but a lot of sprint boons dont really interact well with the rest of your kit. Though ig tbh a lot of hades 1 dashes were whatever really

[supple basalt]

spring boons are trash ngl, only apolo and maybe hermes work

[vernal quiver]

Oh sprint is a whole different conversation lol its nice but all the boons are ass

[supple basalt]

sprint*

[cunning warren]

yeah I mean feel free to your opinion but don't go around acting like you're right, people can have different views. Personally combat feels all kinds of clunky now compared to the original, with both the dash delay and the lack of double dash

and yes I see the purpose and still want zag's dash back

[supple basalt]

anyone already ended the main history in the early acess?

[cunning warren]

anyway I have to go sleep now

[icy quail]

Hephaestus sprint is amazing...deals blast damage, activates quickly, and cost low mana too

[sudden belfry]

what r the best boons for the torches

[vernal quiver]

I'm never close enough with the sprint to make it worth anything lol

[white steppe]

can someone tell me if they've made something out of blitz? i refuse to believe they turned zeus, the guy that made clearing 63 heat possible, into the god of static shock and nothing else

[vernal quiver]

I sprint to keep distance or circle around not to be right up on em lol

[cunning warren]

you want to know my whole torch setup?

[sudden belfry]

yes pls

[cunning warren]

ok 1s

[rustic fox]

Just did a run with zeus/poseidon boons but there's probably better

[icy quail]

It has its uses. Hecate fight is a breeze with it. Wait for her attack -> spam sprint -> repeat

[cunning warren]

so:

1. use selene's healing hex and upgrade the path so you can stack heals with fountains. Very good against Cronos
2. get the hammer upgrade that lets specials rip through armour, super useful in tartarus
3. get hephastus, especially volcanic strike and ones that upgrade it
4. use main attack and it's omega form, and if possible get the hammer upgrade that reduces it's cost by 3

[icy quail]

We are just way too used to dashes. Even some boons encourage you to be aggressive with your sprint. Like you can cause daze by sprinting near enemies with a boon. Couple that with the arcana card that increases damage with two curse effects and you can easily proc it

[tired fulcrum]

Doesnt the dash itself also daze

Or just holding sprint for a microsecond

[sudden belfry]

gotcha!!! ty ty!

[cunning warren]

np, hope I was helpful :)

[devout jungle]

it does, but thats a bug most likely

[vernal quiver]

Honestly the only sprint boons I like are demeter to clear rats in tartarus and hermes because speed and free hit

[icy quail]

Yeah demeter sprint is also pretty good. That and hephaestus sprint are probably my fav right now. Tho would still prefer hepha, that sprint carried me a long way

[rancid garnet]

Hephastus is so good at dps with the boons that makes your explosion have a second hit after 5 seconds, i dont remember the name of the boon tho

Honestly why isnt there an accurate boon list somewhere still?

[mental sierra]

you have to get it as an upgrade

[lusty hinge]

I almost beat Chronos with Sister Blades with a badly upgraded jump attack hex, reduced magick cost build (which actually screws you over if you want to use your Hex a lot, lol), Charon's boost to omega attacks, Hestia's explosive cast and Hephaestus' "your special does a big boom sometimes" which I dismissed at first but actually if you take your time (heh) it works really well overall as a burst damage build. Problem with that was that at the last store I used the reroll anvil and it gave me the most useless Sister Blades upgrade that lets you hold attack but removes your omega attack, so it meant I couldn't "nothing personnel, kid" and backstab Chronos a bunch and then dash out and use my cast + specials again... darn it. Was a damn fine build though, very slow and methodical but it worked really well.

[mental sierra]

which is… annoying, I still havent gotten it (I imagine it’s after a clear)

[rancid garnet]

Uh I see.. I must not be so far then cuz i have around 20 hours now

[icy quail]

I had the boon that if u attack eithin 0.8 sec again, it procs his blast again

[rancid garnet]

i reached Cronos once but i lacked dps...

[rancid garnet]

sounds interesting

[mental sierra]

also, does anyone know where you get one of the materials for the ||Thanatos|| aspect of the axe?

[rancid garnet]

uuuh lemme open the game ill tell you

[icy quail]

We dont have a boon list in codex or anywhere in game, right?

[mental sierra]

you have to unlock it in your codex, sadly

[rancid garnet]

apparently its and unlock...

[mental sierra]

yeah it’s not immediately given

[rancid garnet]

Apprently it's gathered by hand in chaos

[mental sierra]

interesting

[icy quail]

Huh i still havent found jt then. The only codex unlock i have so far is that it lets me see how strong retionships with characters are

[mental sierra]

I have a feeling I know how to get it then— the ||trials?||

[rancid garnet]

Maybe

I jsut got em, i wouldnt know

Why isnt there a voice chat lobby on this server tho?

[lusty hinge]

If it's an unlock then it's either a very late game unlock, or you need one clear for it to show up... I've done many runs to both ends but never succeeded

[untold ridge]

Chaos gave me one at random one time I visited them.

[mental sierra]

ah okay

[mental sierra]

it’s an incantation you unlock from what someone said earlier

but I imagine it’s a run clear unlock

I’m gonna try for one and I’ll report back lol

[rancid garnet]

How do you put something in spoilers?

[icy quail]

Ive done 1 clear at both ends but have got any unlock like that, even at the cauldron

[mental sierra]

|| <- on either side

on mobile, or on desktop, you highlight the text

[rancid garnet]

What are |Star Dusts| for?

[mental sierra]

you need double the symbols

[rancid garnet]

welp i tried...

[lusty hinge]

||familiar treat||

[tribal nova]

|| like this ||

[mental sierra]

||and for upgrading Death Defiance||

[lusty hinge]

two ||s

[icy quail]

Its not a run clear unlock

[mental sierra]

interesting

[lusty hinge]

oh right lol I still have it un-upgraded so didn't know

[icy quail]

I cleared both ends but havent got the incantation yet. Granted i havent played many runs after my first clears

[mental sierra]

I’m at 37 or so runs rn after clearing ||Eris|| but not Chronos

[lusty hinge]

idk why I haven't upgraded it, funnily enough that I nearly cleared both ends with un-upgraded... man if I had it upgraded it would have been a different story

[rancid garnet]

Personally from all the aspects there are im stille using Melinoe's on the Sister blades and the staff... I feel like they are so superior than the others

[lusty hinge]

same

Backstab damage on Sister Blades is heckin tasty, and the increase in charge time for the Staff is very very good if you get the hammer that makes the omega attack twice in front of you

[rancid garnet]

USually play special with the staff

[icy quail]

The sister blades are my fav so far, fast hitting and high dps...plus with the hammer that returns your omega specials to you and the backstab damage shreds through a lot of enemies

[lusty hinge]

The only special on a weapon that feels nice to use without any upgrades is on the ||Skull|| to me, because it reminds me of the Shield from H1 and that mechanic was satisfying as heck to me

[rain raft]

proccing stuff with the 2x staff attack is really good, like poseidon attack and zeus prime lightnings

[rancid garnet]

Same... Tho im enjoying the Staff and the Axe.

[rain raft]

both together is poggers

[rancid garnet]

HAvent tried the skull much

[slate steppe]

is the skull extrememly mid or am i crazy

[icy quail]

I still havent got used to the axe even though so many people are praising it. I guess i spent too much time with the blades in the technical test

[rancid garnet]

The axe does really good damage...

[lusty hinge]

It needs a bit of tuning, yea, at least the projectile recovery feels worse than casts from H1 (which were bad early in H1 Early Access and then got significantly more usable, ironically)

[rancid garnet]

And the special is insane with poseidon... Tho you have to be careful with it as you're vulnerable between attacks...

[icy quail]

I guess i'll try out a run with it. I can't confine myself to only the fast hitting blades

[slate steppe]

ive cleared heat 16 with the thanatos axe. im sure some people are further along, but it felt great

[icy quail]

Axe is my least played weapon so far

[rancid garnet]

i was looking for people to just chill in a vc with whils playing hades, but seems there's no voice chat here

[lusty heron]

Were do you get the familiar recipe ?

[rancid garnet]

Heat 16?! What the hell?

[icy quail]

Wow you are already at heat 16? How many hours do you have man?!

[slate steppe]

22

[rancid garnet]

You'Re cracked

[slate steppe]

i have no life this week lol

[rancid garnet]

im at 16 hours and i've only reached Cronos once ! wth

[severe light]

is there any meta of now?

[lusty hinge]

I'm at 23 and I've left both final fights at slivers of their health multiple times now oof

[icy quail]

Damn. Im at 31 hours and just started to tackle low heat runs

[rancid garnet]

Bshiz is Healian 2.0 Quesiton mark?

[slate steppe]

ive only really done heat with axe. so dont judge too much, it also doesnt go 1, 2 ,3 it jumps like 4 to 8 to 16

[vernal quiver]

I should get to doing heat soon too, I don't have every keepsake tho and all that

Probably once I get all keepsakes I'll start doing heat runs

[marsh otter]

how do i get n-mare

[zenith bolt]

im officially a torch believer

i won that run earlier (i had to pause it to go to work :p)

[rancid garnet]

torch is good witht the hammer that makes your special go straight

[zenith bolt]

i did it with the hammer that makes omega special give +1 orb and the hammer that makes orbs grow bigger and stronger over time

• aphro special giving +230% damage at close range

[rancid garnet]

Btw I dunno if y'all know or tried or noticed... I did cuz someone talked to me while fighting Cronos... But when you try and pause during the fight, Cronos actually stops you from going to pause and force you to fight with some unique voicelines, try it out 😛

[modern yacht]

I like the hammer tha makes the torch attack split up upon hit

[zenith bolt]

yea he tells you to suck it and unpauses you

theres an incantation to remove that effect

[hardy topaz]

does the dodge have iframes? i can't seem to grasp the basics tbh. i can barely make it to the second boss

[devout jungle]

yep

[icy quail]

Yeah, you can dodge through attacks

[hardy topaz]

also i hate that stupid sheep spell

even if i dodge, it just keeps chasing me

[devout jungle]

its between 6-7 dodges

[hardy topaz]

i'm at 27 runs and i can barely make it to the second boss, and even then i can't do much damage before i just die, feelsbad

[icy quail]

Yeah it takes 7 dodges i think. Frino can also block the sheep atta k

[devout jungle]

dont think about runs, just enjoy the game and have fun

[hardy topaz]

i just feel stupid, like im not getting something. and i see many people have already gotten to the end xD

[tacit oar]

I think the never ending flame needs some base adjustment. It can get strong with the right builds but compared to the axe or the staff it’s significantly underpowered

[grand gale]

what build helped yall beat the game?

i get to the final guardian every time but im struggling with winning

[tacit oar]

Staff with the double dit that reduces the rear attack or the faster special for the axe…any one of them with scorch or Apollo does a ton of damage

[devout jungle]

sister blades are by far the strongest imo. but u need post-first-chronos materials to make them op

[eager dove]

hmmm

[whole sage]

Good to know, cause I love those two

[eager dove]

I have Hestia Special on the staff (the starter weapon), and it doesnt seem like its applying scorch?

[tacit oar]

I wish the flames were seeking 😦

[simple compass]

Anyone know if there's a trick I'm missing, or are axe builds (attack focused axe builds, at least) just trash against Chronos? I keep playing axe because I enjoy it and smash through everything else in the game trivially easily then lose to phase 1 Chronos when I can get through it with ranged builds.

[normal marsh]

Question - i have a boon that says when you enter a location prime for chain lightning how do you prime?

[eager dove]

it happens on its own

[tacit oar]

Apollo that increases your special and then Hermes that channels it faster is Uber powerful. If you get Hephaestus explosion it just melts that much faster

[eager dove]

so that boon will lower your max magicka by that much

[simple compass]

Yeah, I might change tack and try special. A shame because I love the attack but you need to be too close for it.

[tacit oar]

There’s a really strong scorch spin too if you use the hammer and get Hermes to increase attach speed. It’ll charge up faster and the scorch will stack really nicely

Beat the surface the first run I was able to and sad how it ended. However it is in EA so I’ll let them cook

[icy quail]

Yeah surface runs are looking pretty unique. Seems like supergiant is experimenting with them to differentiate them from normal runs

[sudden hedge]

I found the boat section of the surface run to be a cakewalk, but that's something that can be fixed with a balance update

[hardy topaz]

I feel like im learning nothing from each failed run, any tips?

or do i just keep going

[storm moss]

keep going

[lunar valley]

More context? What stage are you at?

[simple compass]

The surface runs are probably harder to balance because they're a start from fresh, but only after you've advanced a bit. I always struggle in new zones but breezed through almost to the end the first time I did it.

[wild pine]

I struggled with Thessaly a lot compared to Fields of Mourning tbh

[eager dove]

Yeah correct be if i'm wrong but Hestia special on the staff does not apply scorch at all haha

[icy quail]

It was the opposite for me. Fields enemies took me a few runs to get used to

[hardy topaz]

uhhh, i can barely make it to the second boss. sometimes i just die at the first one.

[lunar valley]

They do

[eager dove]

doesnt seem to be happening for me

[lunar valley]

Try reloading the game and if it doesn't work make a bug report

[wicked rivet]

im going to end it, the game has only given me demeter boons for like the past 5 runs

[rough bear]

Ice boons, the dream(!)

[split igloo]

Best boon setup for knife ?

I tried aphro which felt nice

[wicked rivet]

nah hestia bestia

[wet nova]

Aspect of pan aphro is kinda op on it

[storm moss]

definitely surface bosses feel harder to me than undeground

[lunar valley]

Just keep unlocking the arcana cards, ans trying different boonn combinations. Cast boons are particularly strong and safe

[zenith bolt]

chat what staff aspect have yall been using

[wild pine]

For knife I like demetr or apollo attack and demeter or hephaestus special

hesti special is okay too

[lunar valley]

Melinoé

[wet nova]

One that increases special damage and don’t touch omega just spam special

[split igloo]

Oo gotcha

[rough bear]

I feel like the boat section depends on what your boon set up is. They're cool for kiting and if you can stop them getting to you or hide easily, you're gravy. If not, I'd imagine not so much.

[wicked rivet]

froggy

froggy is such a good boy

[hardy topaz]

i'll try cast boons i guess, i havent tried much of them

[sudden belfry]

alright yall im abt to go attempt ||cerberus|| for the second time gimme some tips so i dont Die

[white steppe]

wait so polyphemeus' sheep can aggro on you, hit you for 6 and you cant kill them?

[lunar valley]

dash

[distant root]

what's the good torch aspect?

[stoic tusk]

if you see his paw off the ground dash away that hitbox is large, otherwise there is a decent blindspot directly behind him, though still those stomp can reach you back there

[eager dove]

I reloaded the game, was suprised to lose my whole run, but I guess that safely prevents people alt f4 savescumming boss fights.

But hestia's special still isnt doing anything on staff special I think?

[sudden belfry]

okok
pray for me.....im goin in......

[rough bear]

try and smack them from a distance, they take time between set ups, but you can absolutely dart in and out before the giant red markers. good luck

[simple compass]

Unlike some fights, Cerberus seems to give you quite a lot of time and you don't risk getting overwhelmed if you play it slower. Most of his AoEs are really big so you want to really move when they come in, not just a single dash, but they seem to have big punish windows between them

[eager dove]

ok no it is working now

[rough bear]

this is beautiful, I'm so glad they do; I've just punted them towards them as decoys

[long osprey]

I'll ask here instead, when do you unlock the weapon aspects?

[eager dove]

gosh staff default special is so terrible though

[lunar valley]

I unlocked it after seeing chronos and then fighting hecate again

[eager dove]

its almost agressively bad

[long osprey]

Weird, I've defeated Chronos like twice by now and nothing weapon aspect-y is happening

[zenith bolt]

yea idk it unlocked before chronos for me

[modern yacht]

I think you have to unlock all the weapons

[long osprey]

Beaten the surface once too

[zenith bolt]

im not really sure what the unlock condition is

[lunar valley]

Try progressing some of the cauldron thingies of you haven't

I think they unlock in a hierarchy, you gotta do old cauldron stuff to unlock new ones

[long osprey]

Gonna take another look at the cauldron to see if I've missed something

Nevermind, Hecate wants me to chant with her first

[simple compass]

I'm pretty confident the weapon aspects popped for me on unlocking all weapons, before Chronos was beaten

[zenith bolt]

what boons do yall like for staff

[sudden belfry]

AAAAAAGH HE GOT ME AGAIN

[long osprey]

The only cauldron stuff I'm yet to unlock is the anti-chronos (no revives and allow pausing), surge of stygian wells, sandy lifespring, and rite of social solidarity

[grizzled ingot]

Volcanic Strike is effing amazing

currently have it upgraded twice beyond epic and it's triggering every 5 seconds, so good

[lunar valley]

Ngl hera is my favourite on literally everything 💀

[zenith bolt]

you got it boss

[long osprey]

Hera boons go hard

Doing my first run with the Argent Skull now

[grizzled ingot]

Hero + Hephestus is premo combo

[lunar valley]

Ohh Eos feels very good

[grizzled ingot]

Hera*

[modern yacht]

I love hera cast

[white steppe]

i feel like people who havent played h1 will do better w the skull cause me personally i keep thinking its like beowulf and ill block

so i charge the special in front of 3 enemies like nothings gonna happen to me lul

[lunar valley]

Glad I'm not the only one 💀

[tired fulcrum]

me realizing ive f-d up in slow motion

[eager dove]

Its strange that some moves will cast the omega if you let go of the button as soon as the charge meter appears over mels head, and others wont

[sudden belfry]

are the aspects of circe, artemis, and momus worth investing in

[eager dove]

no wait its not that

[modern yacht]

I've used axe special like twice and it's always been on accident

[long osprey]

Only on location 9 but the skull feels really fun so far, presuming it's not gonna be as fun in the mourning fields

[lunar valley]

Attack or special build?

[simple compass]

I've done one skull build and was prepared for it to feel bad because I don't like the collecting shells idea, but it was actually great and I need to do more

[long osprey]

Dude it's so good for when you need just a quick breather or wanna get a hit in on Hecate while she's doing her circle thingy

[long osprey]

I'm just full on tanking it, got Nova Strike as my only current boon so probably gonna run an attack build

[simple compass]

The base damage for the skull attack is good and fires fast, so you can get a lot of good burst out of it

[lunar valley]

Ah I see

[long osprey]

tanking it as in picking up every bit of max health I can get

[lunar valley]

If you're doing an attack build watch out for a hamner that fires all skulls at once

Legit nukes

[eager dove]

I wish there was better audio or visual feedback on when youve held the button down long enough to do omegas

getting the rhythm down for chain casting things is rough sometimes and I just drop charges

[long osprey]

Damn that sounds great, I got a hammer but the only one that seemed not trashy was the auto return -1 skull

[random garden]

ok so can someone give me some help on chronos attack pattern?

from what I observed, I have to just stand behind him and watch out for his dash attacks?

[tepid token]

ola, some help to where i can find the dwood material? thx

[supple basalt]

just pray that he don't use the spinning attack and stay behind him all the time

and be alert to dodge the 360 scithe

[livid tartan]

The torch is killing me 😔

[grizzled ingot]

Holy hell, volcanic strike with the Hera duo boon that triggers it twice is amazing

[livid tartan]

I can't get anything going with this thing

[lunar valley]

||second biome in surface||

[grizzled ingot]

big recommend