h2-builds-and-combat

[errant thunder]

was there stunlock on mini-bosses in Hades 1 as well?

[frail jasper]

My first and so far only axe run I got the psychic Omega attack and it was epic

[drifting raptor]

I think in hades 1 the armor is usually like 2-3x more than the enemy base health, so they die pretty fast after the armor is gone

[sharp trout]

Yeah. Much like this game it was better with faster weapons than slower ones like Aegis and Excalibur

[ionic glacier]

yeah, that one's the best one but it never feels as satisfying as, say, Athena's block/repel did. And I can't ever tell when it's procced. I had the || Hera || one in my last run and had no clue if enemies were taking extra damage or not (esp since I was barely dashing to begin with)

[jaunty cloak]

Is it just 1 to 1 for hades 2? I was wondering about that

[drifting raptor]

it feels like it yeah

maybe 1.5 to 1?

[frail jasper]

yall how are aspects obtained?

[drifting raptor]

I could be completely wrong on both lol

[sudden violet]

poseidon - the duo boon you get causes enemies to steam / vent and take more damage

[jaunty cloak]

This has piqued my interest lol

[ionic glacier]

story unlock to get the incantation for aspects, then you have to unlock the aspects via different crafting mats

[sudden violet]

that is... IF you can find poseidn lol. i haven't seen him in MANY long run now

[drifting raptor]

I really like the crafting and incantations, very cool

[errant thunder]

Maybe it's lacking visual indactors of the block. Athena's block was very satisfying bc of it's animation I feel like

[jaunty cloak]

Man I thought it was just me but I barely see him

[frail jasper]

||I'm currently trying to remove the surface ward, am I far from the aspects story-wise?||

[sudden violet]

IF you can use the first weapon, get the poseidon special, hestia cast, and the steam / vent duo for having both of these, then any hammer upgrades to speed up / double your special. its a deadly range combo (spam special)

[carmine ginkgo]

Fun build so far. Umbral flames with Blitz on Special. Then just spam the special to get many balls around you (makes the omega cast useless, faster to spam cast) and each ball does a ton of damage

[bleak night]

||beat Hecate once with each weapon and you should be able to get aspects after you make the incantation||

[frail jasper]

you can SPAM THE SPECIAL?

[sharp trout]

God, that'd suck. I've been relying on his magic bubble passive to get mana back for the last few runs

[drifting raptor]

a few more things then you'll be there

[jaunty cloak]

This just made me realize that this would work pretty clean for || hera || too

[tender flint]

Yeah

[frail jasper]

oh thank you so much. All I have left is the goddamn umbral flames, not my cup of tea really

[errant thunder]

Is blitz a boon?

[carmine ginkgo]

Yep. I just had 4 balls floating around me for like a half second. Can get 3 of them regularly and 2 up via spam is no issue

[sudden violet]

yesterday morning i was having no trouble coming across poseidon. now it seems impossible

[jaunty cloak]

It's a status specific to Zeus boons.

[bleak night]

Oh, you made the 5th weapon already ?

[errant thunder]

ok ty

[frail jasper]

There's a fifth? Woah

[bleak night]

Yep, take the pickaxe on your surface expeditions for the material

[carmine ginkgo]

https://i.imgur.com/vO9aOOa.png

[frail jasper]

first surface AND underworld and now this; Hades 2 will 100% win the goty next year

[drifting raptor]

the fifth sucks imo. aka I used it once and it felt so unintuitive I'm not touching it for a long while

[frail jasper]

I feel so stupid for taking the hammer that makes it one straight armor stripping ball now lol

[errant thunder]

Were the weapons tweaked a lot during Hades 1 early access? Or just minor fixes

[drifting raptor]

if you have good mana capacity and regen it's not too bad for okega attack

[frail jasper]

They were going to add another weapon latter, so I wonder what playstyle is underrepresented as of now. Daggers are quick, staff is for spamming mana, axe is for slow but giant damage and aoe, umbral flames are certaintly something, and idk the fifth.

[tender flint]

I really can't fully express how good of a job the VAs have don't for this game ||scylla and all the siren songs are so good||. ||Polyphemus VA|| makes me have a stupid smile on my face everytime I fight him. ||Narcisus|| practically being nic cage if amazing like I can go on and on the music my god coral crown goes hard

[ionic glacier]

I actually liked it more than the twin flames weapon. 😮 I got a decent combo going where I would lay the Hestia cast, then charge up the shot while the mobs were stuck

[drifting raptor]

fifth is the rail's deformed sister

[ionic glacier]

I think Demeter cast would work well too since they keep taking damage.

[frail jasper]

"I may be out of spells, but I've got plenty of shells"

[ionic glacier]

I found I was using the spells more once I got the arcana for auto-regen

[carmine ginkgo]

Also the boon that makes the blitz trigger after 3 seconds even if they didn't take the 120 damage (though it's a % of the damage). Having fun with this so far

[orchid kestrel]

How does Zeus attack boon work? Do I need to do x amount of damage before it activates?

[carmine ginkgo]

Yes, usually says on it. 120 damage to trigger it, I believe

[drifting raptor]

twin flames is weird because it seems like an attack spam weapon but really it's a special spam weapon

[tender flint]

Yep that's why I feel people dislike it

[orchid kestrel]

Is that on a specific monster or can I run around and tag all monsters?

[frail jasper]

How do the god keepsakes work? I thought they were going to guarantee the first (or second, if you get moon / hammer) thing you got was their boon but I have gotten SO many ashes and psyche and stuff without even a single one

[carmine ginkgo]

Uhh. I think you can tag all, but each mob will require you hit it for 120

[tender flint]

The actual attack is also good but the special is the kicker and the balancing of it is really good how the special doesn't hit stun cause then it would be broken

[orchid kestrel]

Ah I was hoping it was just total damage before it activates

[frail jasper]

also whoever indirectly informed me of the fact you can spam the special of umbral flames, thank you so much

[drifting raptor]

"can we get ares in hades 2"
"we already have ares in hades 2"
ares in hades 2:

[carmine ginkgo]

[jaunty cloak]

I genuinely miss DOOOOOM

[carmine ginkgo]

I mean just look at my screenshot again. I essentially have a doom build

[jaunty cloak]

Those || birds on the boat || toss out the ares rift's and they SUCK

[cursive oyster]

it guarantees the next non selene/hermes boon you find will be that god

[orchid kestrel]

I miss my fist weps. Combat was so satisfying with those lol

[drifting raptor]

theres a duo iirc that makes all blitz-afflicted enemies take damage when you activate it on one

[frail jasper]

Oh, so you can get the ingredients before, that clears it up

Also, is there any arcana that lets you reroll what a god offers?

[drifting raptor]

yes

[bleak citrus]

build thats working for me.. 1) the 2 daggers that attacks quick, 2) take the boon from artimis that shoots intercontinental cruise missles from your body, the one boon that makes attack deal some status.. i forgot the name.. and the other 2 where 1) that makes my attacks attack faster, and 2) one that theres a chance that each attack hits twice or something.

[tender flint]

I feel like if they do want to add more gods they should do it like Hermes from hades 1 where you only see him in asphodel (usually). Like make the gods that show up in hell stay but like add Athena ares maybe even dio to be exclusively on ||olympus||

[drifting raptor]

bottom left corner

[frail jasper]

thank the gods

[drifting raptor]

2nd column last row I believe for boobs, 1st column second last row for room choices

[carmine ginkgo]

with who?! that would make my build insane

[tender flint]

Zues hestia I believe

[drifting raptor]

I completely forgot tbh. I think ||hera||?

[frail jasper]

When I first heard about where hermes was I thought he was going to be post the final boss of the underworld, what with the fact he hadn't returned from investigating him

[tender flint]

Yeah same buy i also like talking to him he funny

[drifting raptor]

the thing is, then you'd a lot more gods on ||olympus||

[frail jasper]

best way to farm ash?

[jaunty cloak]

I wonder what Athena is up to

I miss that deflect

[carmine ginkgo]

well I have Hestia boon coming up next room... time to check it out

[drifting raptor]

do you have the duos arcana?

[frail jasper]

do you need it to activate duo boons?

[jaunty cloak]

no

[drifting raptor]

nah, just much more likely

what are your guy's favourite keepsakes?

[frail jasper]

So far it's probably apollos keepsake purely because of that one boon that gives you passive mana regen while standing in your cast, honestly

either that or the luckier tooth

[drifting raptor]

icic

[jaunty cloak]

Luckier tooth until it is used then swap to odysseus

[tired turret]

I've been having a lot of fun with the moonlit axe and moon water

[drifting raptor]

mine is probs artemis keepsake

or narcissus'

free heroic is pretty epic

[frail jasper]

The hexes are amazingly fun in this game. I much prefer (practically) stopping time, shooting lasers or healing to that one thing in hades 1

[jaunty cloak]

Do you love having no health?

[tired turret]

Armor

[drifting raptor]

yea

[tired turret]

Im happy there is a glass cannon build

Im happy at how many build options there are tbh

[jaunty cloak]

It's only going to get denser too

[drifting raptor]

I didn't prioritize hearts in my last run on accident, so I was up against the final boss with 116 total health

[tired turret]

Yay

[frail jasper]

this game is killing it when it comes to build variety

[delicate spindle]

Isnt Demeter's mana regen better than Appolos, and Hestia's is stronger than both?

[tired turret]

Every run I've done even with same weapon and keepsake has felt different

[frail jasper]

Demeter's, what did that one do again? I remember getting it on my first real run, but I don't remember exactly what it did

[tired turret]

I love Apollo sprint on axe btw. Highly reccomend

[drifting raptor]

but I had a chaos boon for 11 regen, and aphrodite boon that heals you to full after a room if you're above 60% lol

[bleak citrus]

is the skull any good? just unlocked it. 🤔

[drifting raptor]

no it's cringe

[delicate spindle]

Apollos, regens Mana is you stand still in your cast. Demiters regens mana if you stand still for 1 second. Hestia's regens without any a requirement but will take a small % of your health 1 time

[tired turret]

Who cares if its good. Is it fun

[jaunty cloak]

Awww really?

[drifting raptor]

it's bad and unfun, worst of both worlds

[tired turret]

I have fun with the wands even though I feel they need to be tuned

[drifting raptor]

I am not biased btw

[carmine ginkgo]

Oh snap, daedelus hammer... so my special spam my be even more fun

[frail jasper]

Ah. I prefer having the slight mobility with apollo's, but demeter's seems really good as well

[ripe temple]

It might be good if you build for its special

[tired turret]

The wands make me feel like a ballerina and I love it

[glossy rivet]

it is done

[drifting raptor]

trueee you're so right

[jaunty cloak]

I cleared || sirens || the first time casually with this lol

[bleak citrus]

is it worse then the double torches?

[frail jasper]

just get apollo's special size increase, some decent mana regen and spam the omega special to your heart's content (umbral flames)

[drifting raptor]

yea

[tired turret]

I wish we had something precise like some kind of fencing foil

[bleak citrus]

💀💀

[carmine ginkgo]

My special ||grows in size up to 25% the longer they are active|| and i just spam these... this'll be fun

[jaunty cloak]

Some Ranking of Kings tier needle

[drifting raptor]

it's like if you combined rail attack and special into the regular attack, and then added shield bull rush to the special

[tired turret]

Haven't tried that

[frail jasper]

Is there any way to have multiple casts at once?

[knotty fulcrum]

what weapon would you guys suggest. I'm trying to beat ||chronos||. I found that spamming omega attack on the first weapon works pretty well but idk I wanna try smth else

[drifting raptor]

oh that'd be pretty epic

something like fiora passive in league would be baller

[tired turret]

I think the weapon matters less than the build

[carmine ginkgo]

Oof. Except next room was 3rd region boss and he got me because i was already low. QQ

[tired turret]

I was thinking like that or pearl from Steven universe

[jaunty cloak]

That boss requires some solid damage for sure.

Unless you want to sit in that tiny (relatively) room for 10 minutes lol

[drifting raptor]

oooo that'd be nice

[tired turret]

I love the variety of chaos stuff

[drifting raptor]

though I suppose that's pretty similar to spear

[tired turret]

The different kinds of debuff

[jaunty cloak]

One thing I was wondered, is there any chaos boons that buff attack or special like Hades 1?

[drifting raptor]

yea

[tired turret]

I think so

[drifting raptor]

the health regen and mana regen ones can be pretty huge

[tired turret]

Yeah for sure.

[frail jasper]

Is as much love given to the surface part of the game as the underworld? Like if so we literally just got twice the amount of hades

[knotty fulcrum]

than what build could i try?

[drifting raptor]

I saw a chaos boon that made you take +61% damage and added +61% to attack... seemed a lil too risky

[jaunty cloak]

This is my kind of gamble lol

[tired turret]

Not a clue

[drifting raptor]

not quite yet, since it's only at 2 bosses right now

[jaunty cloak]

I'd take that even with the axe tbh (I hands down take the most damage with that thing)

[tired turret]

I found one 60% move speed penalty for 60% move speed boost

[jaunty cloak]

Yea that one I've taken. Cast damage also

[frail jasper]

I'm not that good at the game but I used poseidon's mana bubble, demeters attack and then a bunch of modifiers ot my omega things. Idea is you freeze and gain mana bubbles so you can spam the everliving hades out of all your special thingies, pick up the bubbles and repeat again.

[frail jasper]

Ah. Well, I hope they add more to it then

[jaunty cloak]

What's everyone's take on that poseidon mana regen bubbles?

[frail jasper]

Imho they are the goat

[jaunty cloak]

Yea I have had very good experience with them too

[knotty fulcrum]

on a specific weapon or in general?

[drifting raptor]

it works really well with grouped enemies and torches Ω attack

[earnest echo]

is medea or persephone aspect better? (argent skull)

[drifting raptor]

since you have infinite sustain basically

[green jewel]

Yah this game is definitely a very different playstyle than the first and once you start to learn it and the omega moves it starts to click

[drifting raptor]

they are both for the skull so they both suck, unfortunately (aka no clue)

[frail jasper]

I used it on the witch staff but it seems general enough to not require it, like you asked for

[tired turret]

Trying to play it like the first with my like 2k hours in hades 1... got me killed so many times.

[drifting raptor]

looool yea

[tired turret]

Its like erebus is made to make you unlearn the first game

Its so painful

[drifting raptor]

axe is the only one that really feels like a hades 1 weapon

[jaunty cloak]

Biggest thing imho is the cast being a necessity to cc certain types of mobs

[tired turret]

But its working

[jaunty cloak]

You could get by never bothering with casts in Hades 1 (on low to medium heats)

[tired turret]

Oops

[frail jasper]

Casts from hades 1 vs the omega system from hades 2?

[jaunty cloak]

That's a tough one

[tired turret]

Those dang wailers are worse than the exploding wheels

[jaunty cloak]

Omega probably since it has a lot more variety

[tired turret]

Omega

[scenic sky]

Are the controls clunky or is that just me?

[drifting raptor]

yeah they did a good job with teaching u how to play hades 2, unfortunately it means everyone who rightfully expected to get into it and beat hecate first try or whatever got ganked fr

[shy summit]

i like that the cast actually matters in this game

[drifting raptor]

lol

[frail jasper]

Oh I hate those wailers

[tired turret]

The freaking first time I got turned into a sheep omg

[drifting raptor]

not the controls so much as the Ω attack system, but yea

[jaunty cloak]

I got her down to 25% first run which I was pretty proud of and then proceeded to die several times lol

[frail jasper]

||me but with asphodel||

[green jewel]

It’s definitely still taking some time to sink in but I feel like the controls in this are supposed to feel slower

[drifting raptor]

I think you'll get used to it eventually though

[frail jasper]

Aka the soulsborne syndrome

[scenic sky]

Maybe

[tired turret]

I dont think the controls are clunkier

Everything has more weight in this game

[scenic sky]

It's got different pacing and playstyle

[jaunty cloak]

I think movement feels extremely fluid. The intertia from the sprint feels pretty tight

[green jewel]

It’s definitely a bit hard to get used to the omega moves. At least for me

[tired turret]

And you preserve momentum. Which can hinder or help

[quiet swan]

anyone have a solution to getting away from wailers? i feel like i'm too slow to get out of their range or they're too fast

[jaunty cloak]

Just tokyo drifitng around

[scenic sky]

Yeah but sometimes it just doesn't do it

[tired turret]

Your cast

[drifting raptor]

yea the playstyle difference might make it feel clunky at first but in reality it's pretty smooth

[tired turret]

It stops enemies from moving

[frail jasper]

It is a bit slower imho, but that makes sense because you're a magic user casting spells and not some guy flying around the room at mach ten with a sword

[jaunty cloak]

The banshee mobs are the true tutorial for how important cast is lol

[tired turret]

Idk default

[shy summit]

there are many enemies whose primary purpose is to teach you to play around cast / aoe

[frail jasper]

either that or just spam witch staff attack at them lol

[drifting raptor]

the fact that you don't have two dashes changes a lot tbh

[tired turret]

Have you tried Apollo sprint?

[jaunty cloak]

Just screaming at you until you learn

[drifting raptor]

fr

[tired turret]

Its SUPER FAST

[scenic sky]

Yeah most of us spent hades just dash spamming

[tired turret]

Its dare I say, stupid fast

[jaunty cloak]

dash strike spamming for me

[split igloo]

oh so you never get the two dashes upgrade? I was wondering since I dont have all cards yet

[quiet swan]

i know there's the 20% speed increase w/ arcana

[tired turret]

I stopped using two dashes in hades and played with the shield and shield glided everywhere.

[frail jasper]

Any way to get two death defiances without luckier tooth?

[jaunty cloak]

This almost feels too fast to me but I defer to the group

[tired turret]

So I was already kind of used to this ngl

[jaunty cloak]

Yes

[green jewel]

Have we hit the level of ash and psyche farming tips yet lol

[shy summit]

faster sprint is really good

[frail jasper]

Ight. So you can upgrade arcanas then?

[drifting raptor]

yes.

[jaunty cloak]

|| yes ||

[drifting raptor]

yes. you use cocaine

[quiet swan]

@tired turret playing the long game this whole time

[frail jasper]

Somehow this seems like it would make sense

[tired turret]

Faster sprint with axe makes me feel like a barbarian

[jaunty cloak]

Lol what is the mat called again? Mooooon dust?

[drifting raptor]

need to try

[tired turret]

Its so fun!

And effective actually

[frail jasper]

Who knew the true barbarian experience was in a game about killing time

[drifting raptor]

it gets you so high you fly to the moon

[split igloo]

I like that melinoe feels very diff from piloting zagreus so far tbh...not missing the 2nd dash actually even tho it was so vital in hades 1

[drifting raptor]

did you hear the dialogue with dora about killing time?

[tired turret]

I dont think the second dash was ever vital

[jaunty cloak]

Selene just ZOOMING rn

[frail jasper]

Nope, how come?

[frail jasper]

After playing bg3 I cannot help but think of Selene as Selune

[quiet swan]

mel is definietly a different play style than zag and i appreciate that. just something to get used to

[tired turret]

With the 1 dash everything was faster because you used all your tools and got 50% extra damage to everything

[split igloo]

I was very used to using dash strike combos, esp on high heat but it was not needed to beat the game yeah

[jaunty cloak]

You just made me realize the difference because my brain also did this

[frail jasper]

One of them is a witch, the other one (mainly) uses a sword

[drifting raptor]

melinoë is like "wahhhh wahhhh I'm having such a hard time beating chronos, it's so hard for me to kill time" and dora responds "really? I'm really good at killing time"

[frail jasper]

Doesn't this just make witches into clerics?

[green jewel]

Same. I’m glad it feels different than the first. Something new to conquer and love

[frail jasper]

Hades 3 features dora exploring the underworld to kill time

[jaunty cloak]

Dora the explorer? lol

[frail jasper]

does she ever get idunno decent at haunting people?

[drifting raptor]

I heard someone suggesting that hades 3 would be a third sibling fighting chronos' father, given the current trend

[signal mantle]

gang what aspects should I focus on?

[quiet swan]

but both got fiery feet and mommy issues

[drifting raptor]

aspect of melinoë

[frail jasper]

tf

[tired turret]

Do you remember those flying bird things that come after you in massive numbers?

[signal mantle]

for all weapons?

[quiet swan]

just trying to be funny

[drifting raptor]

you ain't wrong

[tired turret]

It really seems hard to deal with sometimes.

[jaunty cloak]

Which ones lol

[split igloo]

the fishes?

[frail jasper]

We got a wizard (but more of a cleric imho) and a fighter, what playstyle would the protagonist of the third game be

[tired turret]

In the 2nd act

[jaunty cloak]

The ones on the || surface boats || are BRUTAL

[tired turret]

Yeah fishes

[split igloo]

they honestly never gave me issues so far, I just hit them they die fast. using omega cast is very helpful on them as well

[drifting raptor]

hmm, suppose some sort of heavy knight?

even slower gameplay lol

[frail jasper]

I'm so glad that casts actually feel like you're casting a spell, instead of throwing some random red shiny rock three times

[tired turret]

Eh its mostly an issue if I dont have any good aoe

[jaunty cloak]

The armored ones can be a touch annoying but, in general, cast plus big AOE takes them out fast

[frail jasper]

I'd say they would be between mel and zag, although that would probably be too similar

[split igloo]

I love how cast works right now tbh, great boon synergies and good payoffs

[frail jasper]

Seeing as this is the first sequel SG have ever done they are probably just not going to bother making a third

[jaunty cloak]

100%. It is great

[drifting raptor]

suppose ranged specialist also works

[split igloo]

cast was also great in 1 but mostly with cast weapons

[tired turret]

I think it could be tuned but I need much more playing before I can offer any good feedback

[drifting raptor]

oh yeab for sure

[ember frigate]

is it worth trying to make (probably a meme) build for the axe where you try and get as many levels on the volcanic strike? (does blast attacks with 200(?) damage and can reduce recharge time)

[drifting raptor]

but hey, nobody expected hades 2 in the first place

[exotic heath]

havent really figured out how to use it yet, any advice?

[tired turret]

This game is focused on trying to make you use as many tools as possible

[frail jasper]

Hades 1: throw thing 3 times, maybe some fancy effect.

Hades 2: Cast giant circles of arcane inscriptions, binding and hurting your foes, with different throwing methods and effects

[frail jasper]

Quite literally

[tired turret]

Sounds fun

[split igloo]

getting a good cast boon is key, but in general the omega cast has a huge payoff and is worth spending your mana on. it grabs enemies and then damages them in a big blast

[drifting raptor]

put your cast in between enemies then use aoe, mostly

also yeah Ω cast op

[tired turret]

It all depends on the situation

[velvet maple]

How I can unlock the weapon upgrades?

[drifting raptor]

the base damage is really high for what it is

[frail jasper]

||afaik you gotta beat hecate with one of every weapon||

[tired turret]

Cool ty

[drifting raptor]

beat hecate with most of the weapons, then go to the surface and don't die

[frail jasper]

at all?

[exotic heath]

i see, yeah havent really figured out the combat or builds that work for me yet, i just killed the 2nd boss and died to third now. guess i need more practice

[jaunty cloak]

It might be just unlocking them all

[drifting raptor]

you'll see what I mean

[exotic heath]

the fire weapon with hestia attack seemed fun tho

[frail jasper]

Guess so

[zenith bolt]

axe spin + weed killer (demeter) is my goto

[velvet maple]

thanks you I am literally suicide after beating her with the Umbral Flames

[drifting raptor]

damn that sounds goated

[spiral locust]

It has been so long since I've played Hades 1 that I'm entirely unsure if sprint is a new feaure

[frail jasper]

Psychic spin on top of it

[zenith bolt]

hestia's magick regen boon is my preferred choice

[frail jasper]

what does it do?

[split igloo]

passive regen in exchange for max health, lets you spam omega moves

[zenith bolt]

good chunk of magick regen, but you lose 20% of your max hp

[stuck star]

Hey everyone. Can you give me advise how to make the umbral flame work? For some reason its the most unintuitive for me.

[drifting raptor]

spam special, run around

[zenith bolt]

i think base it's like 7 magick/s? i forget

[frail jasper]

What made them fun for me is getting as much mana regen as possible, plus some good modifier to specials and then just spam em, same as childchewer said

[split igloo]

omega special is rly good on it

[frail jasper]

Let's go just beat hestia with the fourth weapon

[sacred copper]

Anyone got builds or just aspects for first clear?

[oblique shell]

im gonna krill myshelf

[tired turret]

Use hephestus on attack for umbral

[wild pine]

for me it happened when I confronted Hecate after unlocking all 5 weapons

[zenith bolt]

axe feels really good overall though i wish i could block without doing omega special

[frail jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-yourself-gif-4614880990811011027

[stuck star]

I thought so, but it does not feel very satisfying for some reason. Thank you!

[drifting raptor]

saaaaaame

[zenith bolt]

i guess the current version disincentivizes standing still and blocking

[tired turret]

Find a way to prime it all

[drifting raptor]

pretend you are ballerina

[zenith bolt]

priming all my magick = no spin :(

[frail jasper]

is there a hammer that allows you to block without doing the special?

[stuck star]

Gotcha

[drifting raptor]

no clue

[gusty lichen]

spin + Aphrodite attack + demeter Omega + Hephaestus more damage when u get hit while casting attack

[tired turret]

You're not attacking directly so you have to take rotation into account

[zenith bolt]

theres a hammer that lets you spin and still attack/special during it

[fleet urchin]

||Hello. Ceberus is kicking my ass I feel I don't do much damage I can survive for a while. Any tips?||

[frail jasper]

I'd love if there is one that, maybe at the cost of magick draining, just allows you to hold and deflect projectiles

[tired turret]

Its God tier

[gusty lichen]

p sure its like 800 damage per hit

[zenith bolt]

that one is really good and 100% worth taking in most scenarios

[jaunty cloak]

Spoiler this man. What is you doing

[frail jasper]

||WAIT YOU FIGHT THE DOG?||

[drifting raptor]

stay back, mostly

[zenith bolt]

you can dodge into the shockwaves and sometimes that's easier than dodging away from them

[gusty lichen]

||u save it from curse||

[drifting raptor]

treat all his melee attacks like hades big swing

[tired turret]

Lmfao

[fleet urchin]

I'm so sorry i suck at discord

[frail jasper]

oops, not the god of discord, how does the spoiler thing really work lol

[jaunty cloak]

Take some advice from the gungeon and roll into stuff

[tired turret]

Im gonna go. Latet

[drifting raptor]

bye

[jaunty cloak]

Wrap stuff in double pipes ||

[frail jasper]

gungeon? they added what to hades?

[tired turret]

I dont want to be spoiled

[frail jasper]

what is a gungeon

[drifting raptor]

also make lots of puns

[zenith bolt]

enter the gungeon is a different roguelike game

[jaunty cloak]

No I meant that in into the gungeon (another classic roguelite) rolling away from stuff is almost always a surefire way to get killed

[drifting raptor]

enter the gungeon, roguelike game that is based and gun-pilled

[frail jasper]

"rolling away from stuff is almost always a surefire way to get killed" elden ring, you mean?

[drifting raptor]

and yea you have to roll into things a lot instead of way to dodge them properly

[frail jasper]

Also do you still use the boss rewards to unlock new aspects?

[tawny stag]

How are you guys using sprint boons? It feels awkward to me to hold the button and not attack or anything just for the effect

[drifting raptor]

ye, among other things

[frail jasper]

Then it feels amazing that you get them on repeat clear

Btw how do you only add the spoiler tags to certain words?

[drifting raptor]

I think ||arcana upgrades|| also require it for some of them, alongside the cocaine

[zenith bolt]

use these || on both sides of the text

[drifting raptor]

you do it ||like this||

[jaunty cloak]

Put some respect on their name

[frail jasper]

||like this?||

[jaunty cloak]

Pipes

[frail jasper]

any way to type them on keyboard?

[zenith bolt]

shift + \

[tawny stag]

I miss dash boons sprint boons are just so awkward to me

[jaunty cloak]

Shift + \

[drifting raptor]

nobody will know what they are if you only refer to them by the name

[jaunty cloak]

There has to be some programmers in the house

[zenith bolt]

soot sprint is goated, that's all i know

[drifting raptor]

yea

[frail jasper]

shift and \ only give me a question mark

[drifting raptor]

<---

[jaunty cloak]

Idk what kind of keyboard you're using my guy

[drifting raptor]

other direction

[zenith bolt]

i believe shift + / is ?, you're pressing the wrong key

[frail jasper]

then I just get a normal /

[zenith bolt]

you want shift + \, not shift + /

[steady goblet]

I think there is a chance, that people across the world have different keyboard layouts

[frail jasper]

then I just get a question mark

[drifting raptor]

you can also highlight text and right click to spoil I think?

[warped warren]

Was about to say

Its on alt + 1 for me

[drifting raptor]

preposterous, you are simply making things up

[frail jasper]

any idea what | is called? I probably gotta go check it for my specific layout

[drifting raptor]

pipe

[jaunty cloak]

What keyboard layout do you have setup? That's pretty cool

[frail jasper]

oh so it's called pipe? I thought that was some gungeon thing lol

[warped warren]

It’s just a regular laptop bestie

[drifting raptor]

"pretty cool" funny way to say completely and utterly deranged

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhh sorry I always underestimate laptop keyboards

[drifting raptor]

laptop keyboard makes sense

those are indeed the most deranged layouts of them all

[tawny stag]

fire mana regen is fantastic

[jaunty cloak]

Does it? The more I think about it the more I disagree with my initial statement

[grand glacier]

Hi, do you guys have any tip for ||chronos|| ? I'm playing the daggers kind of weapon. Everything is smooth expect this bastard lmao

[tawny stag]

Pretty much infinite mana

[frail jasper]

spoiler?

[drifting raptor]

i mean

[frail jasper]

Ight I figured it out. It's the right alt + <

[drifting raptor]

"death to chronos" being said 24/7 kinda implies a chronos fight

[frail jasper]

Yeah that kinda makes sense IG

[drifting raptor]

its not like the hades fight where you probably dont expect it

[gusty lichen]

there is a character in game named Hades, dont tell anybody

[carmine nymph]

what if it wasn’t chronos, what if they pulled a fast one on us

[jaunty cloak]

Leave it alone

[frail jasper]

true. Anyways what is your favorite ost and why is it ||scylla and the siren's boss music||?

[jaunty cloak]

Someone will spoil lol

[drifting raptor]

which song though

[frail jasper]

their ost

[steady goblet]

by that you imply he's alive, shhhh

[drifting raptor]

cuz they have two songs if im not mistaken

[frail jasper]

Btw does chronos only ||tp you to asphodel|| once?

[steady goblet]

I don't think so

[frail jasper]

Can he ||send you to other layers of the first game||?

[drifting raptor]

it happens every now and then i think

it's happened to me twice so far, and in the same place

[frail jasper]

I just got absolutely annihilated by the ||bomb skeletons||, wasted a death defy

[drifting raptor]

like same arena and everything

i was visibly pogging when it first happened ngl

[steady goblet]

nostalgia feels

[drifting raptor]

same as the side character in region 4

[jaunty cloak]

I thought I was hooped when I wasnt standing in the || gold circle || but it eventually teleported me out

[plucky stump]

So why is Umbral Flames so hilariously bad? There's potential there in the way the weapon works, but the base damage it does is so terribly low that it's not worth picking, ever.

[drifting raptor]

try special spam

[steady goblet]

not played with them yet, I figure with good mana regen it's nice

[drifting raptor]

high mana regen/cap and low mana costs (hammers, chaos) is pretty much mandatory if you want to make use of the attack more

[wet nova]

Idk if anyone’s done it before but skulls with blitz special and using omega attack to proc it is pretty clean. You launch attack prior to using special and then apply the blitz which instantly gets activated when the skull lands

[drifting raptor]

skulls
i proceed to ignore the rest of the sentence

[plucky stump]

Sure, but the attack is probably the worst attack, both in feel and usability, out of every weapon in both games.

[drifting raptor]

this is true

yet somehow my second best weapon i think

[plucky stump]

The attack needs a complete rework imo

[drifting raptor]

i dont think it needs a rework so much as it needs a bit more attack speed and base damage

[steady goblet]

Wish there was a lock on target for the auto aim

[plucky stump]

Maybe you're using mouse and keyboard? With the controller it's horrible. The gun in the first game worked because you stood still while firing so you could aim, but Umbral Flames doesn't do that.

[drifting raptor]

though i also think it'd be cooler if instead of it being the same for 5 seconds and then omega attack, if it slowly ramped up in damage and attack speed instead

[drifting raptor]

oh i am indeed

[drifting raptor]

though im gonna say thats a skill issue tbh, i play gungeon on controller and never had any issues w it

[plucky stump]

Try the attack with controller, it's practically unusable

[jaunty cloak]

I use controller and dont find it that bad

[drifting raptor]

and gungeon is all moving and shooting at the same time

[steady goblet]

It tries to auto aim at the nearest target, no?

[jaunty cloak]

Just kind of uninspired

[drifting raptor]

give us hecate's flames instead, those seem cooler

[plucky stump]

Yes, but the auto aim distance is really low, so anything a few feet away doesn't get locked into

[jaunty cloak]

Umbral Flame's special is ballerina tier and I wont have you all besmirch it

[drifting raptor]

^^

im gonna do chronos boonless and arcana less with umbral flames attack only just to spite u

[jaunty cloak]

I kind of want to try and run || hera || on the special and see what that's like. Absolutely worthless for bosses I guess but still

[drifting raptor]

mmm their boons are pretty not good against bosses

[frail jasper]

what are ||hera's|| boons focused around?

[carmine nymph]

|| marriage, seems like a lot aoe stuff ||

very very thematic, not for me

[frail jasper]

you...||marry|| enemies?

[carmine nymph]

|| you make enemies marry each other ||

[frail jasper]

this some aphrodite stuff

[jaunty cloak]

|| essentially damaging all enemies with a particular debuff when you hit an enemy with that debuff ||

[tender flint]

without spoiling whole fight what is chronos instakill i really dont want to die to it

[frail jasper]

okay

[carmine nymph]

|| she has a boon called bridal glow, and her cast is called engagement ring ||

[frail jasper]

everything goes dark and you need to stand in a non-dark circle afaik

[jaunty cloak]

Mfw I am now realizing that I dont really read the boon names just those juicy buffs

[tender flint]

thank you

[frail jasper]

who gave hermes a dog?

[carmine nymph]

lmao i only notice the ones that really stick out to me. like those, and the ones from the first game. i have no idea what any of the attack/special boons are called

[jaunty cloak]

Me neither

[drifting raptor]

the status effect is named ||hitch|| lmao

they all get ||hitched and take on each other's burdens, very domestic||

[carmine nymph]

i hate her boons, not for me

[jaunty cloak]

Regulus from ReZero noding in approval rn

[frail jasper]

I just saw that floor two has ||narcissus||, does this mean the ||nymph|| also exists?

[carmine nymph]

yes

[frail jasper]

I wonder what he is going to look like once he gets artwork / a character

[white steppe]

what do yall run for a twin blades special build

as in what god on the special

[frail jasper]

selune hex time slow for the cosplay

[carmine nymph]

probably Poseidon?

since his boon is good for fast attacks

[jaunty cloak]

The omni directional omega Daedalus hammer and the return backstab one

[signal coral]

i play controller and the flames attack seems fine to me

[mild phoenix]

Aphro hook knives I think

[white steppe]

the specials dont really fire that fast

[carmine nymph]

well depending on if you get hammers that make you shoot the omega all forward or the one that makes them bounce

[signal coral]

the flame attack felt horrible the first run and I spammed special until I died, but then I realized that you can dash in between firing with the flames, and when you dash it lets you quickly change directions and lock on to a new target

[jaunty cloak]

Are hecates familiars unfinished in the cross-roads? They just look like funny lil statues right now

[unreal swan]

||there is echo on 3rd floor||

[frail jasper]

ah. I've not made it to the 3rd floor yet

[jaunty cloak]

|| ahhh I didnt realize that this was who echo was supposed to be ||

[carmine nymph]

yeah you find out the more you talk to them

[frail jasper]

the ||pond|| part of ||narcissus|| is why he is in oceanus, I assume

[daring nexus]

I need a recommendation for a ||Hades boon||. My options are ||+10% DMG per unspent Death Defiance (I got 2 of them)||, ||-20% Chronos HP||, ||-50% Chronos adds||.
Also, does that second one apply to phase 2 as well?

[unreal swan]

||20% hp and -50% adds both are good choices imo||

||usually i chose the skull head special one along side hephaestus' special||

[frail jasper]

Just died to ||scylla|| again, I had no idea they had an Smough and Ornstein mechanic. That + the fact that every god just refused to give me any sort of mana regen for my mana-heavy build

[rich oxide]

I have died so many times and also can't kill them

[frail jasper]

afaik ||drums|| --> ||scylla|| --> ||guitarist|| works best but idk how each of them improve when getting the ||featured artist buff||

[smoky cairn]

Do the Trials reset daily? is there a way to force reset them?

[jaunty cloak]

Yea || drums || is such an easy target, I just dump nasty casts on top of them and bail

[frail jasper]

nasty casts?

[carmine nymph]

depending on what weapon you use, the sister blades melt the || drummer cause she’s stationary for backstabs || the staff is also really good for aoe against them

[jaunty cloak]

Casts that do damage* Not just the default vanilla cast

[frail jasper]

I used the flames and spammed the omega special, that seemed to work

[jaunty cloak]

Or honestly the omega cast would work too. Just drop that and maybe kite || scylla || in for good measure

[carmine nymph]

yeah yeah i kite || scylla until the other two are dead both times ||

[frail jasper]

is ||scylla|| a creature from mythology? My greek mythos knowledge isn't the best

[carmine nymph]

yes

[frail jasper]

ight

[jaunty cloak]

|| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla ||

[frail jasper]

Also anyone know if you can access the flooded river near the back of the crossroads?

[jaunty cloak]

Oh I didnt realize that || scylla || and || charybdis || are technically counter parts

[frail jasper]

you fight ||charybdis?||

[jaunty cloak]

|| yes on the surface second boss||

[frail jasper]

What boons would you guys recommend with axe?

[jaunty cloak]

Me personally, I roll with blitz on attack (often just go whole hog on zeus) or aphrodite on attack and then whatever sorts of hammers I can scrounge up

[frail jasper]

might try that when I get zeus's keepsake

[jaunty cloak]

Getting the hammer that massively reduces the omega special channel time also helps for some burst damage

[tired fulcrum]

Aphro attack + demeter boon that increases omega attack damage is funny

[jaunty cloak]

WHAT. I did not know demeter had a boon like that. I very rarely see her

[carmine nymph]

i had zeus attack and the hammer for ranged spin omega attack and it was crazy dps, but i’m horrible at using it

yeah it’s called weed killer i think

[jaunty cloak]

I just get tagged by my dumb wind ups too much

The margin of error is very thin and I get burned by over comitting

[carmine nymph]

i love the Sister Blades || Artemis || aspect, but I really need to get used to it

[frail jasper]

first surface run here we go

[dire dome]

i need axe build 🥲

[jaunty cloak]

|| I just looked that up and I would main that in a heart beat. What's the moveset like? ||

[lament spruce]

So, for the Axe Spin, I upgraded the time slow. It allows me to make it to max spins while still under the time slow

[dire dome]

I don’t know if im just not used to them or just rly bad, but I swear i can’t use sister blades

[tired fulcrum]

The same

[dire dome]

word

[fluid quail]

|| pan is best with poseidon special right? ||

[jaunty cloak]

The special tends to be the most underwhelming part of the sister blades for me except for applying statuses

[lament spruce]

Yep! As a fan of Fallout 4's Vats, it feels a bit like that

At least in my opinion

[oak charm]

Haven't been here in a while, where's the corner where you whine about how first surface boss is Sheeps**t?

[carmine nymph]

it’s the same but you can do || big crits ||

[frail jasper]

why do you take so much damage ||on the surface||

[rough trench]

I just do not understand how to kill ||Scylla||. I thought I had a really strong build finally going with the axe, but I still got decimated. They just seem so tanky.

[jaunty cloak]

|| that's part of the progression. You will see ||

[frail jasper]

okay

[lament spruce]

I go for the ||drummer|| first. It helps a lot

[carmine nymph]

with hammer that || buff omega attack and backstab damage it goes CRAZY like hit for 500-600 each time you get a crit with it ||

[wild pine]

It's identical except that ||While channeling your omega attack you get a visible shield aura that blocks one hit and give you a temporary damage boost when it does. Then it goes on cooldown and is unavailable for a while. You get a text notification when it has recharged.||

[dire dome]

I’d say it’s easiest with axe to be honest, just use a lot of left click and held right-clicks

[jaunty cloak]

|| Pick your battles and dont tunnel vision. DPS down the other band members before focusing on Scylla. Just stay the hell away from her haha ||

[jaunty cloak]

Lol so just a wholesale upgrade from the || base aspect ||?

[wild pine]

Use cast to trap the big enemy on one side of the room and then go kill the others

[carmine nymph]

the base has buffs too

[split igloo]

which god/goddess is best for the axe

[carmine nymph]

the base has || + backstab damage ||

[split igloo]

i tried many things but i think i cant do proper build

[carmine nymph]

once you unlock the upgrades for it

[rough trench]

Oh, that sounds like a good idea. I'll give that a shot.

[frail jasper]

ohhhh you need to ||cast a spell to remove the damage over time.||

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhh I was misreading the table I looked up. I saw the backstab buffs and assumed it was for || artemis aspect || my bad

[frail jasper]

why didnt zag just ||cast that spell|| is my question

[jaunty cloak]

Zag isnt a witch. He's just a bro

[carmine nymph]

yeah the || backstab crit buff is so so so insane, you can get 500-600 damage hits with artemis buff up ||

[lament spruce]

||He doesn't seem like the type to learn spells||

[frail jasper]

couldn't mel just have done it then?

[carmine nymph]

with certain hammers

[rare grail]

for the staff are there any ||interesting aspects that make it worth doing a run w other weapons to unlock them or can i just onetrick the staff for now bc i love it||

[wild pine]

I don't think ||the Fates would have allowed it, in his case. Cirumstances are different now in various ways that you may or may not have learned about yet.||

[jaunty cloak]

It's mentioned that Mel was a baby by the time the Chronos stuff popped off

[frail jasper]

ah okay

[jaunty cloak]

Like right at the beginning so not a spoiler I believe but let me know if I am wrong

[frail jasper]

Huh. So she and zag never knew eachother?

[jaunty cloak]

Well as much as a baby can "know" someone I suppose

[frail jasper]

ight. How do you get ||thalamus|| for the ||anti die on surface spell||

[carmine nymph]

|| talk to chaos in their gate. ||

[frail jasper]

Ight, thanks

[jaunty cloak]

You can snoop that stuff in your inventory as well hey?

[wild pine]

I think Axe build is relatively open-ended. On the attack I like Apollo or Demeter as both make it much easier to land hits and combos safely. But Aphro is more damage is you git gud. You don't really need a special boon, but many are defensible. Hephaestus and Poseidon are both decent along with the same ones that are good on attack. ||Hera is also good for attack|| once you find them.

[jaunty cloak]

If you highlight the item Mel might say something or the description might give you a better idea

[split igloo]

she is really good but i cant find her boons at the time hahahaha but thanks

[jaunty cloak]

Remind me, what's the apollo buff on the attack again?

[wild pine]

Moderate +% damage and significant +AoE

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhh that's right that's right. Just like the special

[lost oriole]

Apollo axe feels like it hits the whole screen

[jaunty cloak]

Dash strike spam is a pretty viable strat with the axe lol

The full combo is extremely high risk high reward

[wild pine]

yes, if you go aphro this is the way

[carmine nymph]

do you usually just 1, 2

[jaunty cloak]

I miss the dash attack (plus hammer buffs) on the Eternal Spear from Hades 1

[jaunty cloak]

No I will go big and then go home when I get tagged and die

[split igloo]

well i spin i love spinning

[jaunty cloak]

Yea the omega attack is solid imho. I meant the full combo basic attack with the big aoe finisher

[carmine nymph]

i was hoping that the axe special blocked more stuff and didn’t expire into omega

but it’s pretty cool

[jaunty cloak]

Man that hammer buff that gives you 50% dmg for 15 seconds when you block anything is WILD

[nocturne nova]

How are you all finding success with the Umbral Flames? I can't seem to get them to do good damage. Advice appreciated.

[jaunty cloak]

A lot of people have been saying special spams and reduced costs to omega attack

[heady viper]

Loving the axe. Apollo on attack for the range, get Hestia for mana recover (Or also Apollo while standing in cast), Demeter for Omega attack. Ideal hammer upgrade is the one that lets you attack/ special/ do whatever else normally while Omega attack is going, along with anything that speeds up your Omega attack (This goes for Hermes boons too). Plus anything that makes it use less magic or recharge more from Chaos is great.

[split igloo]

you equip bunch of regen like tons of regen and go hermes

[jaunty cloak]

That hammer buff reminded me of the aspect of zeus

[split igloo]

if you are lucky zeus and artemis if not just zeus

[jaunty cloak]

That was a fun build just kitting a massive thunder beyblade around the map lol

[split igloo]

i wish red crit existed ingame

[heady viper]

Oh yeah, basically just being a beyblade and using Omega attack and dodging stuff while time is slowed for charge.

[jaunty cloak]

It will never spark the joy that the aspect of zeus (shield from Hades 1) had lol

[heady viper]

With the ideal hammer to attack/ special during, the damage output is wicked high, got me to the last bit of the Chronos fight buuuuut didn't quite dodge stuff in time RIP

[nocturne nova]

I'll give it a try. Thanks for the ideas. The rest of the weapons feel solid.

[jagged garnet]

The Poseidon sprint boon is gonna get nerfed

[split igloo]

demeter afk boon is must have for flame builds imo

[jaunty cloak]

I dont have a ton of good experience with any of the sprint boons outside the Heph big boom one

[frail jasper]

how feed cat

[jaunty cloak]

That one is super fun for just running into a big group and exploding lol

[split igloo]

you need the item

[frail jasper]

what item

[jaunty cloak]

I feel extreme anxiety when I am not drifting around the map. Standing still doesnt work for me on a spiritual level

[tall notch]

I normally play the game with controller, but whenever I pick up the flames I swap to mouse and keyboard. This weapon feels like it needs the ability to aim

[frail jasper]

damn just got my first duo boon

[jaunty cloak]

Controller doesnt feel terrible with Umbral honestly. But I will tend more towards specials without the ability to aim more precise.

Whose going to be the brave person that wants to try and get gyro aiming dialed in? lol

[signal mantle]

aspect of circe or momus?

[tired fulcrum]

Like you cant aim attack since your thumbstick does movement instead so you rely on autoaim which is only close range

[jaunty cloak]

Oh this is actually a good point. I was playing gungeon earlier in the week and misremembered the twin stick feeling.

Didnt hades 1 have an option for aim direction being distinct to move direction?

[tired fulcrum]

Thats for mnk

[jaunty cloak]

Ahhh makes sense. I never played Hades 1 with a controller. Just mnk

[signal mantle]

Anyonev

[sudden violet]

i'm assuming the last weapon isn't available yet, right?

[jaunty cloak]

Depends what you mean by last weapon

[gray edge]

Which god would you guys go on a special-focused mage staff build?

^ for special

[sudden violet]

the weapon in the top left spot

[jaunty cloak]

Oh my mistake I didnt realize there was actually six slots. Then yes. That's the one they've mentioned will be added

[sudden violet]

i just beat ||chronos|| for the first time, poseidon special is OP

[tall notch]

Circe feels really good imo

[jaunty cloak]

Which weapon?

[sudden violet]

witch's staff

[jaunty cloak]

That's awesome. Ur a real ballerina now

[sudden violet]

||https://i.imgur.com/D7t6g4f.jpeg|| << the build i used, end screen screenshot after beating ||chronos||

[wet nova]

Yh fr

[marsh otter]

how do i get ||e-mare ||

[shut token]

guys is it worst replacing grandma's attack on the blades with hestia?

[placid sinew]

is this for showing your build or for asking for help with a build?

[shut token]

there's a victory boasting channel so i thought i was about asking questions

[gusty lichen]

||double special is op||

[spare laurel]

Man I wasn't putting a lot of faith in the torches because they're clunky but.......Actually my first attempt that made it to the final boss was with them. I definitely feel like the idea there is to spam special, and only use the attack if you have something to benefit. I got poseidon special and just spamming it cleared rooms really fast, you don't really aim and they do great damage. Later I got that boon from Zeus that makes lightning strike everything if you're at no magick, turns out the attack is great to stay at low magic and still do chip damage while the lightning bolts fall

Plus I managed to get chain lightning on the attack so it turned into big pew pew

[distant root]

dude i've been waiting all game for the dual special hammer for the staff, i get to charon in ||tartarus|| and he doesn't have one, but he does have 3 goddamned hephaestus boons

[spare laurel]

Seems like an absolute win to me, Hephaestus has the most fun boons

I love that big ol' CLANG for 200

[mellow hemlock]

the vent damage goes crazy too

[shut token]

i'm not a torch believer. worst weapon imo sorry

[weak hamlet]

Anyone got a winning combo for the Axe?

[distant root]

ok guys i HAVE this in the bag i'm at ||chronos phase 2, 3 death defiance 100 health ish||

[signal mantle]

Ok aphrodite is broken

[distant root]

I DID IT

[zenith bolt]

W

[silent parcel]

A quick question regarding Hecate fight. Can you avoid that ||polymorph of hers?||

[distant root]

yes, simply dash through it

[silent parcel]

Sweet

[distant root]

if you have high enough sprint speed you can also outrun it

[cinder palm]

Hey y'all quick question currently there are less boon gods in hades 2 than hades 1 right?

[simple jasper]

You can also stand behind your frog if you have familiars unlocked

[cinder palm]

My runs feel kinda repetitive for some reason

[mint cedar]

I was so surprised it did that

[simple jasper]

Nope, there's more afaik, but they need to be unlocked ||Hera|| or found randomly during your run ||Hades, Artemis, Icarus, Medea, Circe etc.||

[grand gale]

i accidently got spoiled on one of them but ||ik there's at least one that i still haven't seen||

[shy summit]

exactly i've been saying this

the torches are simply being misused - the special is the main dps dealer

[simple jasper]

I know people love the sister blades attacks, but I've actually had a ton of luck with them and a special based build

If you get the one that makes your specials pierce/hit a second time/backstab you can do a ton of damage from a really safe range

If you're using Pan aspect, you can also pick up the "Your omega special shoots even more times in a circle around you" hammer, and if not you can grab the one that makes your omega special all fire in a straight line or the one that makes it bounce

Gotten pretty lucky with both Poseidon and Zeus special boons on that setup

[wild pine]

apollo attack, demeter spesh. Or demeter attack, hephaestus spesh

and get demeter/hephy duo if poss

heph dash good

or splashy dash

[simple jasper]

Apollo attack feels like such good quality of life on axe, but Demeter attack is amazing if you're going for the hammer that turns your attack combo into that single slow high damage swing

[shy summit]

speaking of which... what are poseidon's boons good for

[wild pine]

a utility hex like wold howl can make a big difference for axe runs too, but only if you have a mana dump to enable it

[shy summit]

i have been trying to make them work but they're often underwhelming (with the exception of the mana spheres)

[simple jasper]

Low damage high fire rate, they add a lot of flat damage to things

Sister Blades special and attacks, Staff Special etc.

[little ridge]

who has the best omega cast?

[thin lantern]

Apollo

[little ridge]

my first guess too

[simple jasper]

Apollo for omega cast

I'm a huge fan of Aphrodite cast or Hestia cast if I'm just dropping it instead of doing omega

Had a great run with Demeter "Your cast has a cyclone going at all times" Zeus "Drop lightning constantly in your cast" and Aphro cast to keep them in it. It also both counts as them being in your cast and afflicts them with both weak and freeze for the damage bonus tarot cards

[little ridge]

who has the best mana regan?

[brittle scroll]

who allow you to throw out your cast other then zues?

[wild pine]

Decent room clear on sister blades attack, though the omega suffers. Very good on staff special or skull special.

Skull for utility more than damage

[simple jasper]

Hestia and ||Hades if you meet him in zone 4||

[shy summit]

btw has anyone found a use case for the zeus boon that reduces your mana by 70%

i feel like that boon is just always awful

[little ridge]

I had this encounter that made me hate sister blades, everything was armored and I had like 4 of those sucking dudes spawn and it basically CC locked me

[wild pine]

It's hot garbage. If you reduced your max after priming instead of before it would at least be good with prime boons.

But instead it makes primes basically unusable.

[simple jasper]

That's not even a sister blades problem at that point, that spawn is just rough

[little ridge]

true, but the close range of the blades didn't help lol

[shy summit]

the only thing I can think of is the zeus boon that activates when you're on < 10 mana

[simple jasper]

Yeah, not worth it

A lot of the primes are so good too

[shy summit]

i suspect the devs will try to make low mana builds some sort of niche build option later

[little ridge]

the furies card wouldn't affect apollo's omega cast would it since it happens after

[cinder palm]

Oh damn haven't found ||medea|| or ||circe|| yet

[simple jasper]

They're ||In the "helper" rooms on the surface like Arachne etc. Medea is in the first zone, Circe is in the second||

[zenith bolt]

hestia imo

[thin lantern]

man, Moros torches actually kinda slap.

[simple jasper]

So does the Charon axe

[velvet maple]

What is the best aspect in the game?

[cinder palm]

I vibe majorly with the skulls tho

[simple jasper]

Hard question. Moros Torches are good, Charon Axe, Pan Sister Blades. Some of the base aspects are really good too

[tacit silo]

Yo how do I not die from the ||999 attack of chronos||?

[cursive oyster]

dd

[cinder palm]

Stand on the tiny circle that appear near the edge

[thin lantern]

Also just use the 6 earth infusion to facetank it like a champ

[cursive oyster]

forgor how to spoiler but ^

[cinder palm]

Also you can actually i frame dodge it too

[tacit silo]

Oh

[cinder palm]

I did it acidentally on my first run

[thin lantern]

What builds do you have for Moros torches @simple jasper

[silver dune]

so apollo omega cast is definitely getting nerfed, right?

[velvet maple]

YAS, I almost finished level up to level 4 the charon axe

[compact nest]

whats the thoughts on chaos keepsake? I find it incredibly useful to use during biome 3 cause its a guaranteed free chaos boon of high rarity that can compliment your build, or at minimum not ruin it. The fact you keep it after dropping the keepsake is insane

[simple jasper]

Eh? It's pretty much the only thing that makes omega casting worth it

Only build I've felt the need to use it on is Charon axe

[thin lantern]

Does apollo attack scale the moros explosions?

[thin lantern]

chaos keepsake is goated just like chaos themselves

[compact nest]

yeah at first i thought it sucked cause who cares about a chaos boon for one biome, but then i realized you keep it and oh man did ti shoot up my rankings

[winged garnet]

Does the axe suck or am I just bad? It feels so weak compared to other weapons because of how much you need to commit do deal damage and even then it's not that much damage. It wouldn't be so bad if the omega atttack and special didn't channel for 5 years, but they do. No idea how to do well with that weapon

[compact nest]

Axe is probably top two weapons

[silver dune]

apollo omega cast kinda shreds bosses even at low levels in my experience, almost beat ||time grandpa|| with it on my first go at him

[winged garnet]

Skill issue it is then 😦

[simple jasper]

Axe is amazing, grab Apollo or Demeter attacks with it

[thin lantern]

axe is REALLY hard at high fear, but it can be good if you can hit its skillchecks

[silver dune]

dadelus hammer can improve the attack charge dramatically

[cinder palm]

Idk how everyone is saying hera cast is op hers is so mid 😔

[thin lantern]

what? really? hera cast feels like the single worst cast in the game

[compact nest]

Axes delay between attacks is perfectly timed to stunlock every enemy in the game as long as you hit every attack. Only ones you won't stunlock are bosses who can't be and armored people. People say a region 4 enemy can break it but i have gone there several times and haven't seem them do it.

Tips for axe are to not use the m2 omega, you just tap m2 as a quick block for attacks. Notably this helps you defeat cerberus incredibly easy cause you just tap m2 every time he slams his paws in the ground and you never take damage(with proper positioning)

[winged garnet]

Can you consistently get attack boons? I just had two runs where I only got one at the 3rd stage, just literally did not appear as a reward

[cinder palm]

I've seen some people here say that hera is op so 😔

[compact nest]

as consistently as anything else, especially after getting rerolls

Hera cast is pretty broken for a lot of rooms, just not for bosses.

[simple jasper]

Get reroll tarot cards and use the keepsakes to make boons from the god you want the attack boon of more likely 🤷‍♂️

[dark whale]

I feel like Apollo is low key slept on

[winged garnet]

Thanks for the tips, will try on my next run

[compact nest]

Hera cast handily invalidates additional mob spawns by deleting them on spawn unless they have a decent hp bar, and the double duration makes stunlocking incredibly easy.

It won't win you a run like apollo/zues cast would but it sure as hell gets you to the point of winning

[zenith bolt]

axe with omega attack boons is really nice

[dark whale]

What does Apollo cast do again

[compact nest]

after cast ends do 300~ damage in the area over 2 seconds

[topaz beacon]

Hera cast is niche, but it definitely has uses

[fair plover]

||is the aspect of charon supposed to not slow time down during the channel of the special attack?||

[dark whale]

Oh yeah that is huge

[cinder palm]

After the 2nd biome I feel like it barely does any dmg tho

[dark whale]

I also like Apollo's magick regen

[cinder palm]

And I had mine on heroic

[smoky cairn]

People are getting chronos runs done in 12 minutes lol

[simple jasper]

Apollo cast with Charon axe feels so good

[compact nest]

depends on the mob. Biome 3 it instakills the slam pumpkin things, biome 4 it instakills any rats the satyrs spawn

[zenith bolt]

my recommendations:

• use demeter's attack for freeze as well as grab her Weed Killer boon that buffs your omega attack damage a lot. freeze makes armored enemies a lot easier to handle. another good option is aphrodite's attack for more damage, though no freeze
• don't take the "your omega attack moves away from you" hammer. it sucks

[storm flame]

Soooo how does this work, im not sure when does it activate?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233664091934162944/1237831264728252507/image.png?ex=663d13b3&is=663bc233&hm=fc9fb92d300942efb8668b3336b9fec4249a10de0569b83bc7460d35b2b174c4&

[topaz beacon]

I think the main benefit of Hera cast isn't the damage on spawn, but the extra duration

[simple jasper]

If a death defiance is triggered, your hex automatically fully charges

[compact nest]

When you die you get a full hex charge. Pretty simple to understand unless im missing something?

[storm flame]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, omfg i thought its the other way around

[cursive oyster]

the wording is confusing

[compact nest]

you thought using your hex would give a DD? At rare? holy that would be more broken than original chaos in hades 1 lmfao

[zenith bolt]

"it" could mean either death defiance or hex i guess

[storm flame]

Yeah id write, when DD is triggered, fully charge your hex.

[compact nest]

idk its pretty clear to me, maybe to an ESL it would be confusing but it reads clearly to me

[zenith bolt]

i had a teacher ban the use of "it" or "that" when i was in HS. decently helpful for understanding why it sucks

[compact nest]

"your DD effects" aka on death - "fully recharge your hex" is the effect its talking about "if its not ready" if hex is below 100%

[cinder palm]

Also the boons codex is not in the game right? Played for a while now and haven't unlock it

[full yarrow]

my vampire doesnt trigger when i slayed foe idk why

[compact nest]

eventual codex unlock

[zenith bolt]

its an incantation with decently expensive unlock

[topaz beacon]

It is, just WAY far in progression

[cinder palm]

Dayum

[zenith bolt]

||2 ambrosia, 2 poppy, 1 golden apple||, if memory serves me

[cinder palm]

Also pretty funny that the ability to pause during ||chronos|| is an unlockable lmao

[compact nest]

funny, but shouldn't be

[zenith bolt]

im not a big fan of that tbh (mainly bc nerves get to me during that fight a lot)

[full yarrow]

uhm uh anyone got same issue?

[zenith bolt]

mine bad habits of not breathing while nervous do not lend to much success in the hand coordination aspect of gaming

[compact nest]

i have 0 idea what "Vampire" is. Clarity?

[cinder palm]

Idk after beating him twice now his fight is actually pretty predictable ngl

[compact nest]

i surmise its a vamprisim effect but what boon/chaos effect/etc

[full yarrow]

the boon that said when u slayed foe +5 health?

[compact nest]

the hammer im assuming? That specfically says omega attack

[full yarrow]

ohhhhhhh

[compact nest]

or omega something idk if its specifically attack

[spark plover]

what are the best boons so far for yall? especially with kinda weak weapons like the staff or 1 handed double staff thing

[simple jasper]

Staff and wands are both strong if you go for specials. Poseidon special is really good with both

[compact nest]

staff is mid but its not weak by any means. Ideally you get double special/attack/omega and build around that. From that point its just stack modifiers. I just posted in #h2-victory-boasting for a staff build i had

didn't die once with 4 dds available

[thin lantern]

staff is very very not weak, but specifically, the momus staff is one of the most busted weapons in the game

[compact nest]

I prefer circe myself

[zenith bolt]

my personal opinions are:
axe > staff > i havent toyed with the other 3 enough LOL

[thin lantern]

the melinoe staff is kind of an average weapon, the circe... really REALLY depends on whether you have any attack speed I guess

[zenith bolt]

||thanatos|| axe seems like the best for omega attack spam, idk the other's playstyles

[compact nest]

Axe=Daggers>staff>skull>>>>>>>>>>torch

[thin lantern]

circe with no attack speed or multihit sounds like agony

[zenith bolt]

torch is fine with aphro special

[visual shoal]

The one weapon I vibe with so far are the torches

[thin lantern]

people dunk on the torches to an absurd degree, but like... if you're on controller you have a completely different and nonfunctional experience from the kbm players

[zenith bolt]

no way, kbm good?

[simple jasper]

Charon axe is amazing with Apollo cast and Demeter or Hephaestus specials

[compact nest]

hell i AM a kbm player and i hate torches

[zenith bolt]

(am kbm player)

[spark plover]

i agree with this heavily. so far has my experience been. i was able to beat || eris|| with the axe and came close to beating ||chronos|| with the daggers but was no where near going near these bosses with the other weapons

[zenith bolt]

axe is my GOAT just because spin spam is generally really strong in both mobbing and bossing

[visual shoal]

Oh I play on steam deck so that's why torches are mid for me

Favorites are the daggers

[thin lantern]

why do people complain about torches so much? legit

[visual shoal]

Axe is a close second because I like being a beyblade

[simple jasper]

I almost beat ||Chronos|| with the skull, got a solid build going with Zeus attack and Heph special

Wand and Staff are both solid with poseidon special spam

[crisp lark]

I don't like the torches much at all

[spark plover]

a general question tho: do boons that buff attacks/abilites also buff their omega counterpart? and viceversa?

[visual shoal]

I... Assume they do?

[zenith bolt]

i would hope so

[compact nest]

the ||charon aspect trial|| really showed me that i was doubting it lmao

[simple jasper]

Eh, the attack on the torches is really awkward even with aim assist, and doesn't do a ton of damage unless you stand still long enough to start channeling the omega version

[tired fulcrum]

Yes not viceversa

[wet nova]

Double projectile staff special + Poseidon is disgusting

[lament spruce]

Agreed. Spin + Aphrodite rarity bumped means I delete the first floor pretty quickly

[zenith bolt]

there's ||more trials than just the starting 3? damn i gotta unlock more stuff fr||

[compact nest]

Depends on the exact wording.

If it says attackS then it affects both omega and regular. No attackS then only the basic version

[zenith bolt]

Weed Killer + hestia's magick regen is my goto for axe spin

[compact nest]

same for omega, if it specifically calls out the omega version then its only the omega

[thin lantern]

stand... still? you mean people don't dash everywhere while firing?

[zenith bolt]

eating the -20% hp is fine bc i dont get hit smilers (ignore my like 200+ damage taken on the big man)

[spark plover]

dash is so clunky man. it feels bad. also sometimes area indicators are smaller than the actual area that does the damage lol.

[simple jasper]

Dash feels fine to me, I miss having the second dash from H1, but it feels fine

[zenith bolt]

i do not feel the issues with dash people are having tbh

[visual shoal]

Dash is fine imo

[compact nest]

dash is fine

[zenith bolt]

but also i was a real Single Dash Truther™️ in hades 1 lol

[thin lantern]

same, you get used to the startup thing and the sheer speed of sprint is INSANE

[compact nest]

the indicator especially on biome 3 boss fight... yeah. Otherwise everything seems normal

[visual shoal]

Dash feels better here than in Hades 1

[thin lantern]

wait what, but biome 3 has the most obvious indicators for everything except the basic slap attack

[compact nest]

The explosions of the big fire rings are bigger than indicated.

[thin lantern]

Ah. Did you f10 that one

[compact nest]

If you stand on the edge, but not in the red you still get hit.

[zenith bolt]

i see slow moving fireball in a video game i straight up bail

[spark plover]

idk about yall but whenever i get dash upgrades my dash feels suddenly like a whole thing to worry about. fighting || chronos|| where you have to dodge alot clearly made it obvious that current dash needs a bit of tuning.

[zenith bolt]

i want no part of this slow moving glowing projectile business

[thin lantern]

What are the other dash specific boons besides Aphrodite?

[compact nest]

considering there is quite literally ONE dash boon in the game sounds like your full of it lmao

[spark plover]

Poseidon dash is the mvp lol

[visual shoal]

I have the card that restores magic so I don't really worry about mana management, at least not where I am in the game

[thin lantern]

poseidon is a sprint. is aphro the only actual dash boon in the game

[white steppe]

isnt polyphemus meant to jump and then crash down? I feel like its kinda bull that you can get double hit by the stomp by him just going over you

[spark plover]

its probably gonna stay one since there is a whole indicator and a trail for it, thing we didnt need in hades 1

[thin lantern]

that sounds like an oversight for feedback/bug reports

[compact nest]

You supposed to avoid his sight on that attack

[lament spruce]

Agreed. You know, I wonder if pairing it with the Axe Special isn't a bad idea

[spark plover]

unless im blind and there was a trail in hades 1

[lament spruce]

If something is about to hit you, parry it

[white steppe]

wym avoid his sight he cant see

[zenith bolt]

||polyphemus|| jumps can hit you like instantly if he does it and you're close, which feels bad

[compact nest]

During that attack he goes "where are you" or something and puts his hand over his eye to look for you. break los

[white steppe]

im talking about his normal stomps which he spams

[compact nest]

oh the normal stomps idk

[zenith bolt]

oh the spawn for the zombie dudes i just bail i dont think theres an opening there if you're not ranged

[visual shoal]

In the Tech Test and at the beginning of EA I really wasn't feeling the combat of 2 after playing a ton of Hades 1

But each run it grows on me

[white steppe]

i do wish you could dash cancel

[zenith bolt]

omega special staff favoritism...

[visual shoal]

Yea staff Omega is great

[tired fulcrum]

I think youre just supposed to stay behind him so he doesnt smack you while jumping doesnt he turn slowly i forget

[thin lantern]

man, Moros torches do an ungodly amount of damage when set up right, but Mel ones really are kinda just for the special

[zenith bolt]

special spam torches are neat

aphro special goes a long way for em damage-wise

[thin lantern]

that's not useful for moros aspect though, but it could be good for eos

moros wants to be spamming the marshmallows and detonating them

[placid plinth]

how do you dodge the goldwrath laser? once the pillars fall it seems to be unavoidable

[zenith bolt]

i stay close to it and behind

[frail jasper]

is there any way to open the locked door leading to a river in the crossroads?

[tired fulcrum]

You can dash back and forth through the beam

[placid plinth]

it feels like it tracks you too well, after each dash the laser snaps to me instantly, will try getting close and behind next time tho, thanks

[tired fulcrum]

Worked by sprinting a little after each dash

[mystic forge]

the normal ones or the boss ones? for both of them just get as close as possible and theyll never hit you

[thin lantern]

that's because it does

[placid plinth]

hmm ok, i was having a breeze until this enemy popped up and killed me in 3 volleys and i didn't even have time to process how to fight it 😅

[mystic forge]

yea i feel you lol

got rekt the first time i fought them

[thin lantern]

Hmm. I feel like Torches need Aphrodite in them because of Passion Dash being the only true Dash boon in the game.

[silver dune]

yeah I've been missing athena dash hard in this game

[wet nova]

They’ve got so many projectile speed lowering things tbf

Like you can get 30% from Hermes if not higher

[silver dune]

evasion is not really the same as being able to reflect stuff and counter some melee attacks...

[thin lantern]

btw, I think if you step into the sheep circles that's what makes him 'see you'?

[keen cosmos]

Found a build where Blitz actually works decent on, Axe with Psychic Whirlwind lets you put Blitz on special and repeatedly trigger it

still not amazing though tbh

[carmine nymph]

blitz is really good with heph

staff with zeus on attack and hephaestus on special feels good

[small vigil]

Any build with torch

[gray edge]

Know its quiet early, but is there an source where I can check duo boons and etc?

[quick blaze]

What gods should you pick for the axe

[devout jungle]

blitz is only good if you have a secondary attack that has low damage, big range/spread

[quick blaze]

And what's like the best axe play style

[devout jungle]

really bad as a primary damage source

[cinder palm]

Speen

[mossy summit]

@thin lantern played around with the torch more. i feel like aphro special is kinda good but it needs to stagger if they change that it's salvageable. did you get any further with torch testing?

[thin lantern]

actually, hm, hera special seems kind of insane for the torch

[coral falcon]

I only started playing the early access recently, but I quite like the first weapon you get, can you guys help me make a high dmg build for it?

[thin lantern]

pretty mid on bosses I guess, but it actually just erases crowds in moments.

[mossy summit]

yea i went with aphro so im not useless on the boss

im thinkin i could add something like heph on the attack cuz im not using it anyway so the cd wont hurt much

[simple jasper]

Yeah, that's the thing I'm noticing with Hera, you need something else to carry bossing, but it's great for rooms

[mint cedar]

moros torch with zeus and poseidon cleared the entire surface for me

[cinder palm]

Damn basically everyone is ignoring the attack on torch lol

[thin lantern]

also, you really, really want aphro in the build for the dash. but the attack is essential for moros aspect

[mossy summit]

cuz it feels bad to me the special also kinda feels bad cuz no stagger

[mint cedar]

zeus attack to prime all the enemies and then special to detonate

[simple jasper]

Poseidon on the special, zeus on the attack?

[mossy summit]

oh right. aphro dash is the only dash boon. they really gotta fix that. i really hate how all other dash boons just became sprint boons now

[mint cedar]

yeah

[thin lantern]

the thing is I think you're supposed to dodge attacks instead of spamming staggers

since you can dash while channeling, uninterrupted.

[simple jasper]

Actually, I was using the Apollo sprint boon in my run, and it was still dazing enemies when I just dashed near them, so I think some of the sprint ones do work on dash

[mossy summit]

well...give me a better dodge and i will 😄 i am still not used to how much clunkier mel dash is compared to zag

[thin lantern]

yes, you can charge the omega marshmallows, AND fire your special, AND dash.

[mint cedar]

or while the specials are flying you can continue to attack

[devout jungle]

in my experience, only apollo works on dashes which is a bug i guess

[mossy summit]

oooh good catch. then they should signal that on the boon itself. thanks for letting me know

[cinder palm]

You can dash during the attack tho but my fingers aren't flexible enough for that

[simple jasper]

And the sprint speed from the Apollo sprint boon was also great in the 3rd zone 😂

[mint cedar]

the haephestus dash is good

[mossy summit]

it's awkward. really awkward

i dont know if the aspects fixed torch or not

[carmine nymph]

“fix”

[mossy summit]

but if it's shooting the same ghost bubbles and the general gameplay stayed the same then it's saaaad

[mint cedar]

the poseidon dash is also good

[keen cosmos]

holy hell upgraded healing hex is so broken its like 5 extra death defiances worth of health

[thin lantern]

@mint cedar say, have you tried apollo on the moros torches, does it scale the explosions?

[mint cedar]

haven't tried it

[mossy summit]

thing is. the game has such a huge emphasis on omega stuff that wasting my mana on sprint just feels bad. thats why i'd like an option to to just have it on the dash too and not just the sprint

[keen cosmos]

it basically is on the dash if you just hold dash slightly for a moment

[mint cedar]

if the sprint kills all of the enemies and you don't have to omega, why not just zoom

[cinder palm]

Even worse feeling is you run a build that doesn't use magick so hex from selene just sits there lol

[carmine nymph]

i almost never take selene

[gloomy sonnet]

There's an arcana card that ||automaticly charge it up||

[mossy summit]

yea in that case a dash with mana drain is nice

[zenith bolt]

i take selene if i get it early otherwise i ignore it

also if i get bad hexes e.g. polymorph/invuln form then i also skip future ones

[cinder palm]

The heal is so good tho

[zenith bolt]

lunar ray is super duper garbage

[mossy summit]

but ye selene is kinda mid too. i dont like that they replaced calls with it. only the heal is really worth. the possession stuff is funny vs 2nd boss but thats about it

[devout jungle]

only heal is good imo

[gaunt wind]

Does anyone else have a hard time differentiating between some of Chronos' attack animations? He has three attacks that look very similar, right now I'm trying to figure out a way to dodge all three at once

[zenith bolt]

the delayed 1000 damage is nice

[thin lantern]

Lunar ray would be amazing with hyper armor/invincibility

[zenith bolt]

get behind him for most of his attacks

[cinder palm]

Lunar ray once you ugrade it enough so it fires on its own tho 🥺

[gaunt wind]

@zenith bolt ty

[devout jungle]

the dash, slash, throw?

[cinder palm]

Crystal beam welcome back

[timber spear]

do we lose our progress once early access is over?

[gloomy sonnet]

No

[simple jasper]

It's a single player game, why would they wipe progress?

[gaunt wind]

@devout jungle yeah they all seem to have the same windup I'm wondering if there's any way to figure out which ones coming

[timber spear]

oof, relief

[devout jungle]

id say its easy to tell after 5 encounters

[zenith bolt]

goddamn it i keep forgetting this server is pg13.
for the big man, the throw is dangerous if you're not close bc it hits super hard and is hard to react/iframe

[gaunt wind]

@devout jungle cool thanks for the advice

[devout jungle]

if you get more comfortable with the fight, and you are not excited about actually getting your first clear

you can focus much better

[wet nova]

Boss 2 spoiler: Hitch is crazy good with this aspect lol||, nearly killed all 3 in one go second time https://medal.tv/games/hades-ii/clips/2bY6yN-7de-RrU/d1337SrZp1Jp?invite=cr-MSw1ekIsMTcwMzI0MTkzLA ||

[zenith bolt]

any aoe goes really hard for boss 2

i have a clip of me downing them in a minute flat with axe spin

[thin lantern]

moros?

[wet nova]

think its called eos

[thin lantern]

ahh

[wet nova]

the one they come back to you when you dash

[cinder palm]

Aoe goes hard for boss 2 while spread moves goes hard for boss 3

Soot sprint vs ||eris|| is a joke

[zenith bolt]

#h2-victory-boasting message message link, spoilers abound

[mint cedar]

i think it is a little bit

[tawny stag]

How are you guys using sprint boons? You can’t attack or special during the sprint right to me it just feels awkward

[devout jungle]

not picking them works wonders 🙏

[zenith bolt]

soot sprint (the one i use the most) also works on dash

[mint cedar]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aokq4pURC_apSl7m_yJOz9R_ceqQssFlyrKOyYL5S3I/edit?usp=sharing

[tawny stag]

Why is it garbage? it’s a lot of damage pretty quickly what’s not to like other than being in place

[zenith bolt]

being stuck in place is what makes it super garbage at base