#h2-builds-and-combat
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So is the chaos embryo the best keepsake so far or what?
i managed to get triple hammer from echo just now so i have hook knives, spiral knives, and concentrated flurry on pan blades. i was doing 2.5k per special to the third boss.
pls elaborate
I didn't like it until recently cause it took a ton of learning, but sprinting in the boss fights is basically a requirement for beating them
ive been using evil eye on final boss, should i use skelly instead?
I always use skelly, but i havent explored the keep sakes in full yet
It gives you a random chaos boon every couple rooms and doesn’t expire
also ye i have to unlearn mashing dodge from hades 1
do their boons from the keepsake come with penalties or just bonuses?
yeah, that sounds like why you struggled with chronos tbh, you need to be mobile
dont stand near things that it looks like hes about to attack at
sprint will be your friend
Just the bonuses!
Unfortunately it only lets you have one. But I believe it will only give epics at level 3
i know the final boss' funnel attack is my cue to sprint but idk what else to sprint from so i thought i'd just dodge and hope i get iframes
wtf, that sounds like it needs nerfing lmao
only the funnel attack is obvious enough to me as a sprint cue
well, his orb attacks, get away from him, his scythe which leaves a black line, get away from, his scyth throw, sprint away from its trajectory
does his scythe attack always go left to right? (relative to his facing)
clockwise to him i guess
tbh, idk
should i run poseidon or hestia? i dont have hera item yet
i just had a insane staff run of both so
like both of them in a run, i'd focus on posidon for attack tho
hestia has great supporting boons
spam special or attack\
How can you dodge ||Cerberus's second phase aoe, it's so cluttering and confusing||
basically just wait till the squiggly lines are about 80% the way to the edge then run out of them - until then though just whale attacks? idk it's gotten me through pretty consistently
i just keep following behind him and hitting from behind
what was your main form of attack? basic attack or special
I just got to it the first time and died halfway, got an axe run with apollo
and then sprint as soon as it looks like he's going to bring up the claws
Anyone know how to activate the divinity card? seems impossible to do and I'm 1 more mind short to activate it
Attack, but most my dmg came from selene, atleast for bosses. It was most of a cast mana run
Is hestia boons good for torches?
I am thinking about doing a run with hestia for atk and apollo for special and cast
wait so you mainly ran cast?
It was a mix depending on the enemy. All 3 of my attacks were gud. It was definitely a god run.
hmm i see
were all your attacks poseidon or were some diff? and what selene boon was it?
This game is harder than the first one. Doing my 10th run so far and only reached the sirens the 2nd time.
Laser beam, bottom path.
||does anyone have a good skull build yet, im using mels aspect to try and nuke things with the increased power.||
But you ain't gonna be able to replicate my run perfectly anyways, I was extremely lucky. Just play about and you'll get lucky in your own way ❤
I think they are extremely powerful, idk about specific gods tho
ive been going blast for bigger BOOMS
the one that causes omega attack on pick-up was really good when i tried it
ive been leaning towards triple salvo omega builds.
with blast and triple salvo it usually deletes a minibosses armor
any build suggestions for artemis aspect?
Good gods for the axe?
hey does anyone one know whats considered "close" for aphrodites boons?
zeus, apollo, hephastus i think, oh and a phew aphrodite's boons
its a slow weapon so try to stick to burst and not DoT
scorch blast and blitz tend to be the best. Scorch really only works with psychic whirlwind
I don't know if it's just placebo/dopamine but apollo attack is crazy fun with melee weapons.
Love how devs name our lovely ||vermin "uh-oh"|| 
it is fun, but im my experience it fall out later, damage stays low
the starter boon choices are much less fun than hades 1 so far
I dont like the coinflip between special and attack
is fire bugged or do enemies from second floor just take less damage from it?
It could be, the most glaring example I've seen is zeus. They might've realized that chain lightning is really frickin good, but it's also way more fun than blitz, which is just "deal damage to deal more damage"
still cool that its in the game at all tho
Tbh the chain lightning for magick is much nicer
Means you can have another random attack, like Poseidon and basicallly have the duo boon but without duo
the basic ones attack and special from him are worse but the lighting strikes from above are a lot of fun compared to lighting in my opnion
||Hera|| cast is totally busted
i just unlocked the skull, good with % boons i take it?
any hammers to recc for it? i get -1 ammo but returning skulls, onesided special, faster special
I like the returning skulls, lets you spam them as a one-shot stop
I tried to make the torches work ... It takes sooo much work to get something going and at boss number 3 I made it pass second phase but it felt like a slog
I think I did 5 of them. The only thing I loved so far was the hammer boon that bust up the armor for 80%
Alright, so I'm finding I seem to be best casting Omega Attack Axe. What's a good build for it?
I'm thinking Aphrodite, but I don't know how close is close enough
Hestia on everything but regen will do you wonders
The Omega Axe seems hard to use, I always get hit on the long chargeup given that you need to get relatively close to use it. Also it feels bad against later enemy spams where you would rather have the option to rapidly take out a bunch of mid sized foes instead of overkilling them slowly
it's a surprisingly Daedalus focused weapon because there are upgrades that mitigate the magick cost for the large flames, cast, and special, but once you get the right upgrades for your build you're set
Im not even sure what you meant. Sorry
Axe is weird. Try using it as a more zoning-focused weapon
Yeah the spin to win Daedalus buff with the axe immediately makes it AMAZING
Aphrodite gives much more % than others and also has a prime boon that increases base attack, demeter has a boon that increases omega attack for increased min cost
Using it at range preemptively to force enemies out, instead of going up to their face and then Axing reactively, you mean?
Hestia's attack, special, cast, and cast passive are amazing for everything and turn your O special into something to be feared
But honestly yeah you have to think way more about WHEN to swing or not. I love it.
So far the two wands are the only weapon I find underwhelming, the range and damage are both so mediocre
That or maybe some atk speed and Aphrodite
Yeah honestly Demeter also helps the axe a lot with the freeze
Oh yeah the spinning orb thing
block rougher dodges with spec, but always charge up O spec as much as possible. tapping enemies with Demeter ATK and finishing with O Cast and O Spec is a good strat
Also Apollo with twice strike chances. The crit card and Artemis can make the spin even more crazy
yep! it's wise to preemptively O Spec before rushing in and laying waste to everything in sight
Totally, I’ve been lucky enough to also get that build.
Honestly I think in terms of power the Axe seems like it’s in a great place. I wish the time between swings was a bit less but it’s not the weapon that needs love right now
although having either Poesidon or Appolo's Magick regen is crucial
depends on your playstyle tbh
I feel like I need good mana regen for that
serenitys regen is NUTS. none of the mana boons have anything on this aspect
whose is that?
I’ve been having trouble with O Spec timing, the vulnerable gap between the normal special shield and the O Spec hit always gets me hit
The axe normal swings without speed buffs seem garbage outside of region 1. Just because of how much stuff you gotta dodge. But if you time it right you can keep the combo going after each dash
Ah, ||Surface|| shenanigans
explains my confusion lmao
||no its a weapon aspect. You can use those uptop or down below. Idk what prompts the unlock but after being hecate enough times she unlocks aspects for you at the cauldron||
|| how do you get hera ||
they already added those???
I mean the AOE of the axe is nuts, but I do think the health jumps of enemies in Hades 2 seem larger than in 1 between zones. So you can def fall behind in DPS with any weapon
||each weapon has three. Mels and then two random gods.||
ooooohohohohoho
I managed to land 1k in one spin atk on the 3rd boss and the fight would have been faster if it wasnt for all the scary stuff ur forced to dodge and respect. Still i managed to beat it pretty fast compare to previous and only failed attempts
I slap apollo atk on it and got Demeter buff omega atk
whats good on the staff after you go poseidon special?
just count in 3/4 time in your head; Axe and AOE should pop at 1
get the hammer that increases range. then try and get slip from poseidon
if you can also get the hammer that makes you attack twice. You're juiced. also hermes has x2 attack boons as well
They really do have more hp. But maybe more meta progression will negate that fact
seems like you don't go for duo boons in this game
duo boons are less common ive noticed. But something new that people tend to go for are elemental boons.
what weapon should i use i can consistently get to boss 3 but cant kill them
the ones that require x amount of a specific element
not a fan of the axe, really like the blades and staff
Duo boons so far didnt felt amazing. But the one with Poseidon dash and Apollo is really fun
Axe takes some getting used to
Spin to win
if anything i was surprised at how much i love the torches
torches feel so weak how do u do it
those things are crazy fun
Mana regen. Pray to get the good hammer. Put cast. Assert Spinning dominance
good night guys
Double O spec, run in, hold down atk, prefferably have a regen boon
I feel like a good cast ability makes this boss really easy, you just focus on dodge the abilities
Hammers are less crucial if you have App/Poe regen boon
i wish i couid unlock aspects
ive sunk like 10 hours in havent gotten the prophecy for it yet
hmmm you guys think like a full sprint build would be viable?
like no weapon just sprint and maybe cast if you get the one that moves with you lol
would be damn funny
guys anyone know how to avoid the 9999 hit from the last boss?
maybe poseidon cast, since it has the highest base dash damage and his legendary would make it do extra damage to bosses
stand in the circle
zeus sprint was also pretty funky from what I remember
lol maybe i should turn the game on high settings
i can't see the circle
how do i use dual torches man
talking about the torches i think that they need a little buff
everything should show regardless of graphics settings, you could always verify the game files just to check if anything is missing
k
maybe (maybe) Having Magick cost reduction round down when you stack buffs just right should play into that
the circle just has a low visibility, which is a fairly common issue with kronos. considering his small model and the amount of stuff happening on screen, especially in phase 2, it gets nearly impossible to tell what he's doing half the time
OKAY. Step one: Snag Poesidon/Appolo regen, Step Two: Grab as many Hestia boons as you can, Step Tres: Spam O Spec as much as you can before jumping into the fray
yeah but they need many specific boons to do the same as other weapons
when you get the right setup is great
they feel like a decent outlier weapon to have, kind of just something weird but powerful when the setup is done
a bit like Insect Glaive if youve ever seen/tried that in MH
for sure
you got the perfet example holy
fun but need the right setup
As someone who hard mains IG it makes sense why it clicked with me so fast lmao
Block and counter
yes sir
but no funny schmovement like Lance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUeShz_ObCw this cheese build is broken
how do you unlock the skull?
I mean like unlock the option. Do you need to have all the other weapons unlocked first?
yeah
Ahh o
Guys what does fine tuning do?
noted
also what are the best gods for staff?
pos on special?
do i need too defeat ||chronos|| to unlock weapon aspects?
does anyone have decent builds for sister blades or the starter weapon? struggling with skill issue rn 😔
I feel like I'm stuck not being able to even control my build besides my active weapon
how far into the game until my runs don't feel 100% random?
I've made it to zone 2 but
how does scorch actually work? the curse description says 40 damage but the boon card gives different numbers
i take back all the trash talking about umbral from before. It just requires very specific hammers
so still not in as good of a place as the other weapons
is the 6th weapon already in the game
but umbral can really dish it out if you get specific hammer upgrades. Its a boss killer with dire candle
sister blade, yes get the special recall hammer put in aphrodite for the special and try getting charge special hammers after that. Its insanely broken and cheese
got it, thanks :D
. could check out this vid for reference on how broken it is lol
No, they say on the "Coming Soon" screen that it will be added later
can dish out 700dmg per special charge. NOT sure if its the highest you can get tho
how does scorch work? what does 40 damage accrued in 1 second mean? why is the damage different in the boon info?
lowkey hoping we get the rail from eris as the 6th weapon that way itd be balanced between three primary range and three primary melee
rip. 6 in the game would mean theres 7 or 8 total
is it me or is ||chaos|| boons pretty underwhelming? idk maybe i just dont like getting doing challenges just to get more resources
Has there been any conversation (or anyone active right now) regarding some solid Arcana setups? I can't decide what I want to prioritize 😂
||i think you can technically get them all activated with the chronos one and circe.||
I've just been trynna fit everything lol. But i do keep deathdefiance, 200 gold start and cast slow mo always
what does dire candle do?
I think I gotta throw in 200g like you are (haven't yet), planned to keep the other two. I think I like this new system but it's breaking my brain about as bad as the time the first big boss himself 😄
the omega attack does 1500% more damage. Its currently hitting for 1200
any good staff builds? I have troubles finding good gods
legendary boons exist
any umbral flame lovers?
anyone know where the other familiars are ?
I kept meeting a cat earlier in the game but haven't seen it since I found out you can have familiars. I think it was in Oceanus both times I pet it
Also duo boons
||you can only get the cat in the upstairs, once you get the treat toula moves to the rift of thessaly||
i know that one
Cast builds are really strong and safe - I got hestia's "cast is a fiery projectile and binding circle appears at explosion location" plus demeter's "cast does damage over time and freeze" and "cast creates cyclone, doing damage in it"
No need to attack at all, just refresh the ranged cast and everything dies
the regular, non-omega cast roots enemies, right?
does hitch just not work?
so how do I get more of those ||Familiar treats or whatever theyre called||
hey can anyone give me a good build for axe I can never get late game with it
Aphrodite
i have but it doesnt get good dmg
With her attack boon? It massively increases attack to "close" enemies
My issue with the axe is I end up getting caught by dumb stuff during the long animations and some stuff can't be animation canceled (at least not with dash?)
You can brew them later ||After you beat chronos I think||
You have the companion food yet ? (Witch's Delight)
Often a cat spawns just before getting on pirate ship to the left of the dock
Hey, does anyone know if Apollo's nova strike increases the blast radius of aspect of Moros' detonated bombs?
Didn't had to beat him to get access to the craft of some more treats
What’s a good build to run on the sister blades? I’m struggling to get past the third boss
I found myself leaning on dash strikes a lot with the axe
aphro special + sureshot flurry hammer
anything except the actual attack combo and special lol
the daggers can snowball so hard if you get lucky
Thank you 🙏🏻
kind of interesting that the blades support both melee and ranged builds pretty well
i dont think the blades are that great for range, without aphro doubling the close damage, they feel a little weak to me
Hephaistus is pretty broken
Having the hammer for the technique straight or comin back at you is good too
Staff handles melee/ranged much better than Blades
heph feels kinda lackluster to me honestly. those massive numbers sound good, but he doesnt have enough to support them, and other builds can outclass the big hit pretty easy
Blades can do melee and melee chain casts pretty well
but I really feel their range/special attack to be lacking
blades do not do well at range. the best blades build involves getting upclose with the special...which is meant to be the ranged attack
ehh, i'd rather spam ranged attack from Staff any day
Do all weapons have the same cast (a binding circle)? I've only tried the cast damage build (both damage over time boons from demeter plus either hestia or zeus cast so you can aim the area at range) with staff but it should work just fine with any weapon as it's mostly weapon agnostic
Yes glyphe don't change
it's much safer and if you get the ranged splash boon from Poseidon it's GG
honestly i hope they keep the blades as very melee focused. it's much more fun to run up on someone fire a 600 dmg aphro special directly into someone's face than stand off and take potshots at them
Pan aspect can use that as a ranged weapon with the Zeus or Hestia cast throws. It's just Aspect of Charon 2 then
how do i even unlock aspects? do i need to win with every weapon? (i've been spamming the staff, just got my first clear but still don't have aspects unlocked)
you have to unlock it using the magic soup bowl, dont remember when it shows up though
does the staffs upgrade "double wallop" (attack hits twice) work with apollos boon "extra dose" (attack has chance to hit twice)? Can these double up for 3 attacks?
You get the recipe for aspects from hecate (boss), dunno about prereqs though.
that seems like. theoretically it would be possible to get 4 attacks
im just wondering, because i have them both on right now and havent been seeing the x2 thing that usually activates with the extra dose boon. kinda worried i just picked a redundant boon. Since they both say attack 2 times, the effects might just be overlapping.
Wield each weapon at least once and reach her
Ah I see, thanks! I still don't have axe or the other weapon that needs bronze, I'll do axe and then try to head up instead of down
nvm i confirmed it worked. i saw the x2
anyone know how i get revaal?
do i need the pickaxe for bronze?
nice pfp
umbral flames?
yea think so
yeah they ass indeed
i thought they would be good cus long range
i wanna get the skull. idk if its good tho
its so slow it dont anythiong
yea revaal i was told u just gotta keep playing
i cant really say who gives it cus idk how to do that cover thing for spoilers
with umbral wands the special is the main damage dealer
imo its the worse weapon
the attack is more for applying statuses imo
i am allowed to purchase it, i just need to find 1 bronze. do i need the pickaxe for bronze?
how did u get it btw? im tryna figure it out
i would say give wands another go but spam special
oh i really don't know. I just kept playing and i got it. beat the second boss if that helps u
what characters should use the nectars on?
everyone at least once imo
yea but like who should i put first
start with the non-god npcs
oh man, what cast do you go for charon build?
that thing is NUTS i just dont know whats the best
so all the ones at the safe hold where u go when u "die"?
they are not rly hard to get. Just give them randomly to all the gods. I have given already 2 to aphrodite because she is hot af
also the ones out in the wild
tbh i love the starter weapon u get
it's very solid
its so good and versatile
15 damage cap vs ||eris|| is really funny
does anyone have any sirens tips
try to focus down whichever one is causing you the most trouble first
typically i do drums singer guitar
My strategy is:
Focus on drummer first then whenever it goes into block mode, focus on the other two, rinse and repeat
ty
i usually do drums guitar singer. there isnt a ton the singer can do if you arent near her since she's so slow
is marauder slice (hold attack to slice repeatedly at the cost of losing your omega attack) on the daggers any good
it's not very good imo, a good one is the one that boosts your third attack (+range and +300% dmg)
you can clear very fast while being safe
alright
Also she blocks your attacks if you go from behind
How do I use the torches? Do I just have to play really slow?
the best hammers for daggers are probably the ones that make the blades all shoot straight and the on that makes them pierce. those two together can snowbal into higher damage numbers than heph boons
Suggestion: someone should make a website in which you can make your arcana cards build
what weapon works best with ||hera||
I was thinking sister blades or the double torches
you can dodge it
it's possible. You dodge through it instead of away.
it's possible if you dodge through the projectile 7 times or ||the frog familiar can take it if you're lucky||
if you avoid it long enough it will disappear
she'll even say something when you do it
aight time to dodge it 7 times and get complimented by her
whats the better keepsake for final boss, knuckle bones, skelly tooth or evil eye? there all lvl 2
I haven't gotten used to the Sister Blades. What Core Boons should I be going for ?
Oh, Hestia for the Sister Blades ?
aphrodite is your friend. turning the special into a shotgun is very fun
no sorry, just posting duo boons bc people havent found them all yet
Ooh, sounds fun
Does anyone know if the keepsake that makes you impervious for 10 seconds after dropping to 0 HP works while you still have death defiances?
Ive never tried doing a sisters special run only ever down attack
the dagger special is the ticket to easy mode. get the right hammers and you can do more damage per hit than a hephaustus boon, twice per second, for the cost of 5 magick
Interesting
ngl, aspect of ||artemis|| does nasty damage
Ive only ever down the like backstab or more dmg on omega attack. I might try that with the other aspect
You might wanna spoil that haend for people who dont know about those
uh-oh
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yeah, vermin got a new name
ive only used Mel aspect, that backstab damage is too good to pass up
i just wanna point out charon is such a nuts version of the axe.
But have you considered, 50% crit chance + aphro attack boon + omega attack +400% damage hammer? I was critting for 1800
Wait where you getting crit chance?
Also attack sisters with demeter freeze on attack is so nice for qol
||artemis|| aspect gives 50% crit chance for like 10 seconds when you do the parry thing w ith your omega attack
great googly moogly, that's a lot of damage. but i like the guaranteed backstab damage. it means i have to think less
Oh wow ok i forgot about that
Ive never had the parry proc because i dont like get up to enemies while channeling lol
Does that parry work on bosses?
the parry is full invincibility on the next hit (as long as you channel the omega attack) and for like 0.5 seconds afterwards so you can get out of the way of further attacks.
So as long as im holding down attack even if the bar is fun and i see that shield around me im perfectly immune?
Basically like euridice keepsake. It just deletes the next hit
Ok nice btw with your build if you can also get backstab hammer upgrade itll be even better
Unfortunately my second hammer was "OOPS ALL SPECIAL UPGRADES"
Oof makes sense rng
dont knock the dagger special, it does work
Well, I was already critting for 1800 with my attack, I doubt ANY special hammer could have topped that
You probably need the other aspect for the special
ive seen someone crit for 3600 on the special
Does anyone know if there's a hestia boon that increases the rate at which the scorch damage is dealt?
Not that ive seen sadly
dam
how does this whole priming thing work
You got less mana basically for what you gain
Like "flood control" from poseidan
reduction to total magick in exchange for some benefit
For example if it says in a location you are primed 30 you will be 30 less of your mana
so it says i prime 30 magic for a -4 damage reduction
btw, if anyone has issues with the ||serpent miniboss, if you dodge into the multi-split projectile as it detonates, none of the followup projectiles will hit you, the original explosion point is a guaranteed safe zone||
my total was 49
means you have 30 less total magick, but each hit deals -4 damage
so now do i technically have 19? since 30 is primed
yep
damn, this sounds worth it then, -4 is a lot
i keep getting hit by that so tyty
when do you unlock ||aspects?||
i believe stuff like the one Heph boon that scales off of total magick includes primed magic
||beat Hecate with every weapon, then use the magic soup bowl||
get to hecate with each weapon once I believe. for me the dialogue triggered when I reached her with the 5th weapon
huh ive done that already but nothing. maybe i gotta exhaust dialogue optoins
there's no way for me to confirm what weapons ive already used against her right
I'm gonna call it the soup bowl from now on
anyone know a good build that will let me beat the game
getting good
Playing till your eyes bleed
MASSIVE CRITS
BUILD
Psychic Axe build
Without needing weapon aspects or specific hammers, i'd recommend demeter + hestia/zeus cast spamming from range
?what
aspect of ||artemis|| sister blades, with aphro attack boon, pray you get the omega attack +400% damage hammer
boons?
just take everything cast-related
Does Static Shock work with specials as well as attacks?
the hammer that ||reduces magic cost for twin blades is kind of situationally bad since it can slow down your hex||
It says "Make your strikes emit chain-lightning" and doens't specify Attacks
daggers with mel aspect, Aphro on special, sureshot flurry hammer, boundless flurry hammer
But if I take it and I'm wrong and it doesn't work on specials, it hurts my build
you want hestia or zeus' "hold to aim cast, the circle appears where you aim" and demeter's "cast creates a cyclone on its position" plus "cast does damage over time and applies freeze"
then you just run away from enemies while putting your cast down on them over and over, and the auto damage will kill everything
I'm pretty sure it works with the special, if it was attack only, it would say so
May I advocate for a torch build that mixes Hestia and Demeter to be called "Twinrova" in honor of Zelda: Ocarina of Time?
lol, mute the video, the audio will hurt your ears
Tested it. You're correct thanks 😄
Did you read the comment?
petition to call the apollo cast + Zeus' target cast boon the "precision airstrike"
mb
big fan of aspect of ||thanatos|| + weed killer omega attack spam
but i need help with 3rd and 4th boss
just dodge
it will take forever but ill try it
you should be dashing away/around them all the time, you literally never need to commit to attacks
every 3-4s when the cast circle disappears you press Q once, the rest of the time you're free to move - it's a slow playstyle but it is extremely safe
boss 3 ||is like a dark souls boss, looks scary, but basically harmless if you stay in it's face. When it does a slam, just dodge through it to the other side||
run in circles, occasionally hit the enemy with your big number, repeat until demise
I found 3rd boss easier then 2nd honestly
if you have aoe, you can group the trio on second floor up and do triple damage by hitting all of them
he is after an attempt or two. just stay behind him and almost nothing he can do will hit you
Maybe it's just me but does it feel harder to anyone else to figure out which boon combos are great
I mean game new
yea this goes hard with the axe
I mean, I went into Hades 1 without guides or whatever and I feel like it seemed easer to figure out which boons from a god were worth grabbing compared to others. Maybe it's just me, I dunno
||They need to lower the tracking on the bags of gold this so stupid how I lose just cause I physically cant dodge it like the moment it does laser your screwed and then it has armor so no stagger frickin stupid||
just stand at drummer and spam omega attack ggs
I didnt find 2 too difficult either. ||Take out the drummer first to disable the arena-wide blasts and the fight is way easier||
can you get that many cast related boons??
yup
k starting the run now
the only one that takes up your cast slot is demeter's "your cast does damage and freezes"
the rest are, like, modifiers to your cast instead of changing the core of it
if you want to minmax, use a weapon where you can hunt for armor-breaking hammer upgrades cuz armored enemies (with the yellow hp bar) are a giant pain in the ass, i used staff and managed to get the "dash attack breaks 60% armor" hammer which made my life a lot easier but the build should work without it
thoughts on grows to 40 percent wider until expires
you want your cast to do damage - apollo doesn't let your cast do damage, you want demeter "does damage and freeze" or hestia "applies scorch"
its hilarious how garbage demeter's magick regen boon is
he lets your cast grow bigger tho
hm actually if it doesn't take up the cast slot then it's fine
i feel like it makes it expire sooner for some reason
too scared to search back through here cuz of spoilers but any boon suggestions on fighting Surface Boss #2? ||Eris||
really? interesting…
I’ll try that next time, I have her keepsake maxed out already
glowing coals with anvil ring is kinda fun
if only i had the apollo to make the cast grow
it wouldve been so op
oh that sounds awesome
yea you can just toss the cast onto enemies and it like does alot
yeah that sounds crazyyyy
its aoe is small tho, so apollo would really help
is Apollo’s grow cast hard to get? I dont think I’ve seen it before
I dont think it has any prereqs
i got to the cerberus and almost beat it using that setup, but it was my first fight with him so i didnt know everything he did and died
oof
yeah I went a REALLY long time without seeing Apollo or Aphrodite, like 10 runs at the least
i kept getting clapped by the attacks where he sucks you towards him
the run i just had was the first time i saw an apollo in a while
didnt even get what i wanted ;-;
it’s very funny having Apollo as my name and the game keeps saying it lol
I just get out of his way lol
i couldnt
like, I just move before he can get me, idk if there’s a better method
hmmm
his moves are sorta easy to predict cause he’s so massive
yea true
he still hits like a truck tho
i didnt really have a problem with anything besides the pulling moves
cause i got pulled right into the circles a decent amount of times. i went from 100 -> 0 real fast
Just dash away and sprint or dash behind
oh yea i could try getting behind him
I haven't gotten that far, but theoretical Burn attack build for the staff that I thought off:
- Hestia attack
- Apollo Double Strike
- Daedalus double strike
- Any Hestia boons that boost fire
- Dementer cast to keep enemies in place to keep stacking burn
I got pretty close to that build a few times and managed to get Hecate into low health, but was too greedy a lot of times that got me killed
so trying as hard as you cant to get double hits?
seems interesting
Mainly to increase burn stack, but yeah, that's the game plan
speaking of Hecate, I can’t believe I got to her on my first run 😅 she obviously struck me down, but I got her on the second run!
but then I experienced a ton of issues in the second area, as if to make up for my initial luck lol
yea alot of mine fall apart on the 2nd area lol
I think the second boss has killed me more than Hecate
sameeee
there’s just SO MUCH to avoid
ive kind of figured out how the boss works, i got it dead last run and the one before that like 3/4 dead
I wish you luck in beating her!
so hopefully it wont be a big problem anymore. so many attacks to memorize
i think i might try to get a more optomized build of my "YEET THE CAST AT THEM" build
thats what i shall call it
I got her a few times to low, it's just that my greed got me killed more than once
it’s the greed that always does it lol
you see that 10% health or less and you just GO FOR IT, but hubris…
Yep
but that gave me some theory crafting for the what I like to call "Just hit M1 Pyro build"
man the sheep is so hard to dodge that sometimes i just let it happen
when I faced off against Chronos for the first and only time so far, I think health is more of the factor that killed me than my build, but granted I only knocked off 1/5 of his health before he smited me lmao
how many bosses is there between cerberus and chronos
||none||
really?
mmhm
damn so i was that close, nice to know
yeah though the ||Tartarus|| enemies are brutal, so be prepared
fair, i guess ill deal with that when i get there
either a bunch of health or a very good build
the yeet the cast is pretty good tho, cause you can kinda just sit back and toss
having the hestia boon that makes ur magick regen super fast is great too
mmhm it is
with my yeet cast, i used sister blades and had the thing that makes ur special shoot fireballs
so i was basically a wizard with my cast being a fireball and my special shooting a fireball
wizard blast…
is there a limit on how much you can raise your focus?
fr
Dawg it was awful my 3rd full clear didn't get me an attack boon until right before chronos
melinoë using fireball
oh god
It took so long to kill any tartarus enemy
oh yea witch with the fireballs
So i only keep the buff an armor provides aslong as the armor is alive right?
scorch unfortunately doesn't damage more with more stacks
I remember having no attack boons for like 3 runs before the third area or something and just… losing my mind
it's always 40 dps regardless, and whatever excess scorch you have banked on an enemy is applied over time
Im noticing i am not getting much boons at all :/
yeah I thought the RNG was bad for me but it seems ubiquitous
I’m really glad to finally have my 3rd death defiance, that’ll def help with my runs…
I didn't get many my first few runs either :/ feels weird with me sometimes barely getting a 3rd row on a clear when I've seen people with like almost 4 rows
The 40 dps still melt health rather quickly, but if someone goes for the one where you get a burst of damage when hitting a stack count (I think that was 3000 damage), it can act as DPS but also a damage burst
I’m currently at 35 and it was like, my 32nd or something that I reached Chronos
Uhhh 9 or 10 I think, I posted it in #h2-victory-boasting but that was a while ago since it was yesterday
god Damn
From like 5 onward I always got to chronos
niceee
what kinda builds helped you the most?
I always have an issue of not focusing my boons into a build and just, getting stuff willy nilly
It's probably because of path of the stars
Idk tbh I feel like for me I just got a handle on the game pretty quickly, my builds haven't been anything crazy literally just getting aphro on attack or special and getting hammers to buff the omegas
My first clear was sister blades with 2 special hammers that made the omega all go in a line and the other that makes em return
27 runs in and i've ate it to the big man like 5 different times now 😔 at least i've gotten to him like 3 times in a row now
2nd was staff with the double hit omega hammer, aphro attack, Apollo cast, and Zeus on special for blitz
And 3rd clear was axe with aphro attack and psychic whirlwind hammer
struggling to find openings for the funny axe spin thing i'm going for
Honestly I wish I could help ya more but tbh a lot of the game from my stance is knowing how to cc tf out of things with cast
Crowd control
ah
Cast is your biggest friend in not getting overwhelmed
yeah I can crowd control pretty well thankfully, its just melting enemies that I gotta focus more on
I get good builds but dont work harder to make them a constant
of building synergy across runs
Honestly imo not many of the boons have synergy rn
is there a way to see all the boons?
Like aphro is just damage, Zeus is just damage checks, Apollo is the dazed status and damage, and the damage isn't done in a way that allows for a lot of synergy
My best runs have literally been aphro boons with the right hammers
Not sure if this is a spoiler for me. The girl you play as in hades 2 is this the offspring of the guy you play as in hades 1?
no, but she is his sister
Oh okay
i was confused looking at the scroll in the bedroom area
becaues that looks like the guy in hades 1
that's him, he's her older brother
So he had kids?
Yea the pic in her room is hades persephone and zag
Hades and persephone had both zag and Melinoe
persephone is zagreus and mels mom
if you upgrade the ||aspect of charon|| you get "cleave-cast size and damage". what does cleave- mean here? sure the cast gets bigger and does more damage, but what about the cleave part
What is the current limit on grasp if there is one?
I thought scroll showed Zagreus holding a womans hands and a baby
so aphro seems to be the go to atk boon goddess?
with hades in teh background
thats his mom lol
OOOH
just like in h1, it depends on the weapon
Apologies i only beat hades once so im kinda dumb when it comes to the lore
Yep
yeah persephone is his mom and hades is his dad the baby is his sister
Only one that I really haven't seen use aphro is like skull and torch
But every other one has no reason to not be close enough for aphros damage buffs
yea, i was experimenting and the only weapon that had a better feeling atk boon was the axe + hephastus
Any reccomendations on first run weapons? I have the battle axe and sister's swords
love the chunks on that thing
Oh I just used aphro on the axe lol
I cant make it past world 2 yet
I used the sister blades a lot but you gotta get used to being closer to enemies
tbh i just used what has the grave thirst bonus to get some more currencies
i think the easiest for me so far is staff and get poseidon special, ez spam
What about rings?
aphro's kinda just really good compared to most other gods. lwk zeus and poseidon feel rather underwhelming
and just tried to learn more of the game
last enemy who killed you ring seemed pointless since the bonus damage is so low
i gave the spider some fruit she gave me ring thats like. you start with armor and gain 2 armor after every room
Uhhhh use one of the ones from the gods first to get your build started then I'd say switch to skellys for the death defy
your best will probably be aphro's ring and skelly's ring
Uhhh you'll want aphro for whatever you use for your
main damage, for cast you can use whatever but aphro Zeus and Apollo are some standouts, and depending on the weapon you can make your off attack smth like Zeus for blitz procks or heph for the big hits
In hades 1 Daedalus Hammer
was pretty good
whats the maximum grasp one can reach?
question: does Skelly’s death defy stack on regular death defy?
I dont think ive met aphro yet
WHAT, that’s wild omg
Yep just like the first game
I never used it in the first game for some reason
he's my go to keepsake after the second region
I coulda sworn it didnt stack but idk
I’ve been using the Phial for a free Heroic boon a lot
Tbf acorn was better since 5 hits in a boss was worth more than the 100hp from skelly defy but still
now I know to start using the tooth lol
wonder if any keepsake in h2 will have the acorn effect
No an arcana already does
oh really
can i unlock other weapon aspects beside melinoe for weapons?
mmhm
also whats the maximum grasp possible
is there a way to see all the boons just like the codex entry in hades 1?
Yes
so what do posideon's bubbles actually do?
I pick them up. is that like a temporary shield?
how to unlock?
it throws a bubble down every so often that you can pick up to replenish magick
Its an incantation idk what causes it to unlock
ngl i rarely use my magick which might be why im dying so much lol
i see
yeah uh pls use magick lol
in hades 1 i didnt use it much at all
just auto attacked for the most part
It does slow down time which is a huge upgrade i think
what does recover mean from the aspect of melinoe axe? what's faster recovery?
you dont take as long to hit your next swing
you attack faster, essentially
veryyyyy helpful imo I love using the axe
might be a good upgrade for the battleaxe. that thing is super slow but deals so much damage
max Thanatos axe + artemis ring + ||ephaistos ||shield and dedale making your technique charge +50% faster
Give me unreal crit every time for 800 to 1k dmg per hit 
yeah it’s the first upgrade you can get
any1 got some fun builds?
how many hours did it take u guys to get a clear in the current game build?
Needed 7 to 8 hours, taking my times with story and dialogue
Plum here earlier said they got it in 9-10 runs
wow i must suck
No
nah I’m at 35 runs and no clear
im dying regularaly to haestes or whatever her name is
and I’m at 21 hours too lmao
Yea so abt 8 hours
It's not a competition, enjoy the game, really, the story is the essence of it, no need to pressure
At least for me but I also picked up on the feel really quick
I do say the dodge recovery sucks compared to hades 1
in hades 1 u could spam dodge all day
It's slower yea but nothing you can't adapt to
mmhm I got the feel quick as well, getting to Hecate on my first run, clearing her on my second, but the rest of the game has been a much slower crawl, though I’ve been taking my time to collect a bunch of materials, too
They nerfed the dodge to give us speed instead, really like that
You are basically usain bolt, on drugs
I killed hactate with some meme upgrades from the blacksmith. he gave me exploding attacks
Hephaestus’ boons are very fun
true 300 damage...
exploding attacks + Depressurization 
and they trigger other explosions too if u noticed!!!
i managed to the 4th boss (apollo cast w/ hestia fireball cast thingy carried me hard) but i can't even do anything against him lmao he hit me 3 times and thats it
its like destiny 2 or some crap lol
wit theres FOUR FLOORS
So is the boss in the 2 nd area a siren? am i right?
there could be more tho idk didnt even beat him yet
dont spoil but
(spoiler it)
Idk from the dialog
which one is Depressurization?
From Hephaestus can give you a boom that explode after the exploding attack
Uhhh yes and no
Scylla isn't a siren but the other 2 are
Basically an insane combo of 600 to 800 dmg free
it triggers after 8 seconds
I think at least >->
which makes no spammable sadly
ah I think I’ve gotten it, it’s great
yoo i just unlocked hera, is her attack good for axe?
Prenerf g un in hades 1 was my go to clearing weapon i loved that thing
we're going celestial sharanga on an axe edition
Did you ever get the ||queen of olympe boons||? Please don't read if you haven't reach the surface
YES I love their boons
BRO, her boons are insane LOL
I’ve gotten to Surface Boss #2, so you know my progress
Why did the dead guy give me a card or item?
I came into this channel asking for help on it lol
you’ll see
||The tentacle guy?|| don't read if you haven't reach the surface guys please
no, I mean ||Eris||
anyone know why i went to a spending room and the guy gave me an item after spending money?
appreciate the heads up bro from me who havent cleared the underworld:)
no? ||there’s cyclops, then Eris||
||charon gives you that every 1000 gold which can be traded at crossroad for items||
Don't worry, I got massive spoiled like that last time 
I need to stop clicking these spoielrs
for what?
yes do not click our spoilers lol
||stuff to upgrade arcana||
What the actual f is that, you spoiled me (not your fault), for me the second boss was the ||monster ||somehow 
???? what
SERIOUSLY
ARE THERE DIFFERENT BOSSES
Wait what the f 
okay wow thats pretty nutty @tired fulcrum
I sended you a dm galaxy
isnt that a miniboss
i.e. ||the rat in oceanus. it has an hp bar and name but isnt a full boss like hecate||
oh you might be right, I’m still missing a ||Warden on my prophecy|| list
ok so there is an incantation to see boons in the book of shadows
i think the unlock req is getting every god's keepsake
i tried your build but i got epic hestia further thruogh and decided to switch and only lost 100 health during 3rd boss fight wich for me at the time wasnt a death defiance
The main reason I had fun in Hades was using gauntlets and being able to dash whenever i pleased while having the dash on a shoulder button. I'm hearing the swords in Hades 2 are the most similar to the gauntlets, but you have to wait for the attack animation to finish first before being able to dash. I'm concerned intense frustration is in store for me if I play because of this. Does every weapon have to complete before you can dash in Hades 2?
recovered one in the shop anyways
im playing an ygnium special build and maybe im just not used to it but it feels like you're forced to face tank to do good damage
I have a hammer that gives 50 power to the orbs but they go away after 1 hit so i have to keep spamming it
which means im slow as hell cause im always in the special animation
i love that tartar sauce is back in the game
btw this game looks AMAZING in ultrawide. Im using a samsung g9 oled on oh my goodness. beautiful. the devs did a great job
nova strike with the axe is overkill wtf
referring to hera?
though i originally planned on using aphro attack but then hera made her debut the next run underground
used narcissus keepsake to turn hera attack to 93%
i imagine aphro goes way over 150%?
IT REALLY IS
getting the hammer that makes your Omega Attacks radiate outward + any Curse boon is just… insane lol
I think there’s a hammer that makes your general Attack swing farther too
I remember being able to swipe the entire battlefield in Erebus like crazy with that hammer upgrade
i just want to bring it to notice that melinoe naruto runs with ygnium
yuh, aphro-hera duo within hera' first boon debut
my god id kill for an ygnium special movement speed buff
other specials make enemies flinch at least
bruh i cant believe i cleared chronos with ygnium before the axe
aphro special build, the hammer that makes the specials fire straight and gives them armor stripping and the one that gvies them +50 power but they go away after a hit
I hated the axe until today due to just not getting boons but now I'm getting so many boons and it actually feels good about 26 hrs in haven't beat chronos
How good is Judgment? the one that unlocks cards as you kill guardians, but limiting factor is that you can only start with max 3
It's probably meta if you upgrade it to unlock 5 per guardian, and strong at 4, but perhaps a bit meh at 3
huh, ||eris||' keepsake sounds interesting
+0.5% damage per encounter (at level 1), but you take that same amount more as well
whats this one again
Get % bonus damage on equip, but slowly lose it as you go through encounters
I haven't touched this one, so it's only level 1
But I can see it being very good in the final area since it's only a few rooms provided you follow the numbers
When do I get access to Eris?
I randomly saw her in the home base one time and was able to give Nectar
This was pre-Surface runs, too
||Charon || axe is the best weapon in the game
Is there a way to get nightmare for upgrades or is it not available yet
yeah but you have to beat the game first
it's from ||this game's equivalent to the pact of punishment||
Chronos?
Ohhh ok
Well im close anyway
I had an incredible run with an heroic Héphaïstos boon, regular attacks made explosion every 2 seconds, shame that I got failed on the final boss, had the Hera boon that upgraded boons right at the end of the run so no issue with them being demoted in 7 fight
im a little new to hades2, is the dash being somewhat delayed after every attack normal?
Yes.
Dash waits for the last frame of attack animations now instead of interrupting like in hades1
oh thats why dodging feels awkward that makes a lot of sense
Any tips for the boss of the Second Région alternate path ||Eris? I'm getting pushed in, I guess I almost succeeded when she had a sliver of health but I got greedy. Probably the hardest boss for me so far||
Same for me I struggle against her 😭😂
At least there is the chaos trial that puts you directly in that region, so that can allow for some pattern training, but I find it quite hard to avoid
||Hestia Rush is the best thing against her I think, it just cancels any bullets||
trying to find a build to help defeat the 4th boss, currently having decent luck getting there with the blades but also with the staff however im seeing here that the axe is quite strong, is that true? i might not be understand how to use the axe properly in that case
I enjoy the Axe a lot, what part of it are you having an issue with ?
to me it feels as though the slow rate of attack hinders me quite a bit although that may just be chalked up to a skill issue
ive not even been able to get past the first boss with it
ah, I personally don't use the attacks much
I do a dash attack into charge and rely on the spins
You can easily do attack builds for it, just run an Aphro Attack and it should take care of the damage for you
Or apollo for masive aoe
also, you might need to weave in Specials because it blocks in front of you
I almost never charge it, I see it as a parry button at this point
That def works as well, yeah. My go-to for the Axe attacks are Aphro/Apollo/||Hera||
should I do a run so you can see how I play it ?
that would be amazing if you can!
I can stream after my AntiVirus is done scanning
might havee already screwed up my first run of the day with it by getting hell splitter
Hell Splitter is that thing where all your attacks are that 300 damage smash, right ?
yeah
Yeah, that's hard to master. It definitely hits hard, but I can't control it well
yeh its so slow havent been able to make that work just yet
actually no, thank you for the offer but thinking about it now, would like to learn in my own time, feels more rewarding that way
The big chop of hades 2 but it feels so much slower😭
I hate how she's doing a slo-mo
Does this game have the well of purging
haven't seen that yet, no
What does that do
in 1, it allowed you to sell God boons for gold
Could you rig ||echo|| by dying with only one boon in the previous run
haven't tried
None of the weapons I’ve tried so far have fully clicked for me yet, the range weapon least of all. The bow and gloves in the first game immediately felt satisfying to use so hoping something lands for me soon 
I think cast builds are the safest builds so far
current best|| aspect ?||
Devils advocate, it is in early access. I think I had the same thoughts with hades early access
i haven't found a well of purging yet so it might be impossible
she can duplicate hammers though so that might be more useful for some weapons
cheese your 32 heat runs while there aren't enough bosses going upwards, jfc I don't wanna go through that again ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778505838003879938/1237732385957740667/image.png?ex=663cb79c&is=663b661c&hm=ff9b4709bb8be8aabcf83d13be614cdce753901374401d1cbe667a2253bd0dad&||
can someone recomend me a aspect cus i genuinely dont know which one to go
aspect or weapon ?
aspect
which weapon's aspect are you asking about
i have the choice between
double up ( Whenever you claim a Minor Find or similar resource reward, a copy may appear.)
and
oceans bounty (Any Minor Finds and coins are worth more)
does that mean double up would also work on hearts and magic while bounty wouldnt ?
any weapon with any aspect i just want a good one cus idk what to settle on
Currently have such a good run but can't post pics of the build until I beat it 🤞 my Omega Cast has: Solar Flare (on expiration deal 19 dmg/0.13s for 2 sec)
Enshrouded Chasm (deal +27% dmg)
Transcendednt Chasm (deal +28% dmg)
Lightning Lance (aim cast and deal 70 dmg),
and best of all Glorious Disaster (channel 30M to repeatedly strike foes w lightning 50 dmg/0.13s)
It feels SO GOOD I LOVE THIS GAME
tbh I just use base Greataxe
Chad
I mean the other two are very different is all
one is Cast into Omega Shield, the other is crit chance
I'm mid through a Moonstone Axe run with Furious Whirlwind and Physic whirlwind Hammers coupled with keen intuition for 45% dmg at 100% Magick its the best run I've had so far, 1k dmg whirlwinds clearing rooms.
Hopefully going to be my first clear.
Also Lucid gain for auto refill to keep Intuition constantly active. so fun
That sounds amazing
Phycho whirlwind so good. if you are AA during whirlwind and need to dodge the WW continues while you dash around.
What's y'alls favorite weapon? I personally love the axe
Big chop feel powerful
So far I love making Melinöe an absolute tank and decimating everything with the spin attack
Literally died with him on 10% ugggh
does big chop apply to whirlwind or only normal AA?
So far axe seems too slow, on the other hand the default weapon (witch staff I believe) seems pretty solid
Also will I get a codex to see boons and possible combinations?
No, but you do get to see how far you've progressed in terms of relationships
Damn Cerberus with Eris debuff... also I need to learn how to deal well with siren band
Who should i give my nectar? In order to get the best item
My two best runs (haven't been able to win, though) so far were both with Ax
Can someone help me with recognizing what telegraphs Chronos’ attacks? I can’t tell which attack he’s about to do, or if he’s about to do the dash-slash or circle-slash 1, 2, or 3 times in a row, and it’s making me take a ton of damage
Apollo Attack Boon is amazing on Axe
can somebody tell me how vent interacts with blast that was pommed to low cd? since vent has a cd before it blows if i reduce blast below that do they stack? or the countdown for vent just restarts ?
somebody recommend a build for first time clear pls
Axe + Nova Strike (Apollo's attack boon) is a great start
any hammers or other gods to watch out for? tips to control rng?
Or arcana picks
What would be good for staff?
i only got 29 arcana atm
why apollo over aphrodite ? are there stuff to look out for other than just damage?
ive gotten to the final boss but never got him to 0 health
is axe the best meele weapon?
Furthest I got was stsrt of second phase on final boss.
Apollo gives a ton of range to Axe
My meta progression is lower than yours so I can't recommend Arcana
As for the rest, I pretty much let rng guide my way. Apollo's attack range gives me a lot of comfort
Man the fact I havent been able to kill a second phase yet shows how far off i am
Can stomp everything up until him
I think I will get my first win after 20 more deaths
So I had some fun just spamming Posiedon Sprint. Does anyone else use it?
Yes! It's amazing
I also like the Zeus blitz boons. Those are super helpful when there are rooms with massive spawn groups.
I saw a comment about Scorch/Hestia in #h2-feedback and it feeling "fine". Wondering what other people think of it?
From my experience, as long as I'm not using the axe (not counting spamming Omega Attack), it feels sufficiently strong? Arguably pretty strong if you're using the Sister Blades. I dunno how it compares to the other gods on average, though, particularly Aphrodite
axe is a difficult weapon to do well with
you often have to dash between animations to not get hit
also, something that also can work well is to wind up the anim and then dash into the enemy
Yep
and how do i get golden apple?
You'll have to complete a few quest lines which unlock another area.
There's a Hestia and Demeter duo boon that bumps up the number of Scorch stacks if you apply Freeze to an enemy and that did wonders for me with Sister Blades that had Demeter's Attack boon to apply Freeze on Attacks and Hestia's cast boon to burn targets. Got very far with that loadout but the big bad had other plans for me unfortunately
Might try to shoot for that sometime
Unrelated, but I was using Witch Staff with hammer upgrade to make the omega attack hit in front of you twice (Double Moonshot I think it was called?) + blacksmith boon to cast to have smaller AoE but attack enemies periodically in it + Hestia's burn on attack. That combo hits like a truck. Nearly killed the boss of second ||surface|| area with this combo - it's really strong, but you need to place the cast at the enemy's position which is risky. Overall really feels like the that hammer upgrade is the only way to play with Witch Staff if you want to get to the end lol. But of course you need to invest into magick regen a lot, otherwise you're doomed. Luckily blackmisth "get magick on hit" is really really juicy for that
So far I have too much memory muscle from Hades 1 and I tend to dash, not sprint
yea I'm still rewiring my brain to sprint more now, I do kind of miss H1 Athena's protection on dash, wish there was something like that here to make the sprint even safer option to use to avoid damage when bosses spam AoEs in my face
what are some good boon combos with aspect of charon?
I hope there's more weapons added to the game. I'm kinda underwhelmed by the weapons...
/Am I alone in thinking this?
the game is in early access stuff is bound to change
i think the elemental boons are kinda rare
would like to play with them some more but
Oh for sure. Ex: I remember how chaos shield went through multiple iterations in h1.
I think people underwhelmed by weapons are not engaging fully with omega attacks, once I started utilizing those more pretty much every weapon felt solid. axe slow though
is it ok to stack Excellence (30~% chance to upgrade boon to Rare) and Divinity (15~% chance to upgrade boon to Epic)?
Would having Excellence mess with the statistical probability of proccing Divinity or smt?
Can echo copy chaos boons
same i need to get used to not dashing around like Zagreus
Oof, yeah I feel you on that one. Took me a bit to remember that I can sprint
Does the Chaos trinket feel a little...off for anyone else? It is strong but getting the elemental infusion one randomly before a boss feels real bad when you're not built for any element lol
Hmm... what would be good build for staff? Apollo attack and hestia special?
Fellas. Does Flood Control (Poseidon's prime to reduce damage taken boon) stack before or after the Earth elemental infusion that limits damage per hit to 15? Like, does it reduce the 15 all the time, or does it only reduce damage for hits that are naturally at or below 15 damage?
i'd presume its before but not sure
How do I unlock weapon aspects? I am at night 25 or so and still got none
I was literally about to ask the same, I’m very keen to see how they change things. I want to like the torches but man they feel so weak
same, im still using the staff, seems to be the best to where i am at
I flit between moonstone axe and sister blades but the staff gets the odd outing, feels like a good middle ground between all the ones I’ve got so far
staff feels weak unless i get something like the forwards-only omega hammer
anyone have a good experience with aspect of ||thanatos axe||?
seems like dodging hits and axe dont go hand in hand but what do i know
I generally dont like the new weapons too much, they all feel kinda unsatisfying to play. They're either too short in range, too slow or too heavy-handed compared to the first game idk
but im sure they will fix most of the issues with time, since this is the first official release, so its their first real round of feedback they are getting
It feels very similar to Excalibur in Hades 1
exactly what i thought when i played it the first time lol
does the 4% crit chance from the spoiler aspect worth it vs maxing out melinoe aspect? not sure what exactly attack recovery is
The daggers with the back attack boon that increases dmg is so amazing with the left click hold, melts things haha
swing faster? dodge/move sooner after attack animation?
Faster attacking is named as faster attacking though (as seen in Hermes Boons), so i guess its cooldown after attack
i see
also what boons go best on dagger for attack and special? flat boon on attack, percent boon on special? also hammer recs?
Wait a second. Can you animation cancel the long wind ups with the axe with the special? I cant test right now
some help please, where can i find wood in game for upgrades?
The driftwood? ||If so it's on the ships on the surface||
How are you supposed to use the umbral flame weapon? It seems to me that the special is ill equipped to handle the tons of mobs that will group up faster than you can use your attack to kill them from range. Against bosses it feels like i'm too much of a sitting duck for too little damage. Then again, I am most certaintly not using the boons correctly, any good ones to use?
Your cast will be important for CC, so anything that can expand it's footprint like Sun boi's boons
I got the apollo attack boon and just started using omega attack. Though unless you get a good mana re-gen boon you are kinda screwed
Ight. Might try that out next time they get the increased bone modifier
yea flames needs a bit to get setup
Honestly I found that the special was the real MVP for umbral
Especially with some daedelus hammers
the hammer that reduces the cost of Ω attack is good, if you can get mana reduction from chaos or other means that's also good
thx!
also yeah spamming the special works pretty well
This too actually
My God I just got heroic volcano attack to level 4. Cool down is 2 seconds
Couple that with some kind of mana regen (e.g. standing in cast regen) makes it pretty consistent
and if you didn't know, you can dash while attacking, definitely the most mobile weapon I think, aside from skull I guess
is that heph attack?
Yup
damn that's good
Two seconds is wild. Was wondering about that.
what are they rallyable lone shades ? like how do they look
I got it on the axe too so charging omega attack gives it enough time to recharge
does nova strike boon effect Omega Attacks as well?
Two seconds is amazing for that damage
I feel like Zeus was nerfed big time how do you guys feel?
an easy combo is to go for zeus and aphrodite and try to get their duo boon with zeus attack/special with the flames
zeus is really not it
since you can Ω attack/special and run around into enemies for easy damage
returning dagger special is pretty strong
Depends how consistently you can hit blitz
Blitz is just really underwhelming I feel
I agree
all sister blades dagger hammers are crazy op, just got my first sub14 with ||pan|| 🙏
I think needing 120 damage to do anything is wild
special hammers*
ok u gotta recommend me a build for first time clearing bro
maybe I'm biased because I keep getting the zeus aphro duo, but blitz feels pretty solid to me
That's like a couple hits with the axe
i mean ive gotten to the final boss but never killed it yet
blitz scales really well
need some tips to make it through that final stretch
which move is the "cleave" on the axe?
How does it scale well? Isn’t the blitz damage the same unless you use poms
maxed ||pan|| with poseidon special, any special hammers and a lot of mana regen is literally auto clear, but since u dont have anything maxxed its tough
I got an interesting effect with Zeus, I don’t remember the name of the boons but it was the field one that’s strikes Lightning when you have like 10 mana and another one that also removed mana
I had all of my mana removed but I would have lighting hitting all the time and bouncing off, I think getting rid of mana can have some interesting applications for some builds
I wish they had a sandbox in the training room so you could try and make the best build
oh yeah for sure
Yeah plus some effects have you front loading mana
i only have default aspect, know something for that?
no mana zeus seems fun, perhaps with something that doesn't really need mana like the axe
i have aphro special and hook knives rn
When do we unlock aspects?
unlock the surface first
Yea no mana zeus is fun as hell. Had it on daggers last night and no diff'd all the way to || chronos || before dying to dumb stuff
Do you have to beat charybdis?
I don't believe so
u can go either aphro attack + demeter omega attack %amp or poseidon attack
I don't recall what exactly triggered the ritual unlock for it, but iirc you need to fight/talk to hecate after doing stuff
I guess I'll find it when I find it
yea pretty much
Is it lame that having || frenos || roll with you brings me so much joy?
I got it with the torch flames, had two hammers (but didn’t get a boon on the special lol) that breaks armor and becomes stronger the longer is our and Demeter attack, so alternating between attack and special made the enemies freeze and break armor fast plus all of Zeus bouncing lighting
based
Is there any way to have brainless runs like in Hades 1 (gloves and poseidon for example) ? I kinda miss those and have not been able to reproduce it with the H2 weapons / boons
No, its dope
Froggy stans rise up
no mana zeus
with hammers to get rid of omegas
i love having lil bro block the hecate polimorph 🙏
For real
I've got that poly sorted at this point. Just dodge left and right through it six times and you're good.
Honestly, the one boss I feel like I never clear clean is || sirens||. Too much going on for my squirrel brain to handle
Thank you I'll try that
no omegas makes the game in general a bit more brainless since I feel like omegas in general sorta break the flow of things in that you need to think a bit
but then again I'm sure itll be brainless anyways once you get more used to it lol
lowkey hoping we get some aspect that gets rid of an omega ability for a weapon by default
Yes I agree that it breaks the flow
Even with the slow down it does hurt flow for sure
But some of them are very satisfying too
oh what's everyone's thoughts on the skull?
I feel like the slowdown occasionally breaks flow too tbh
Which weapon is your favorite for brainless runs?
quick question for if anyone knows, with the perk power shot, im not noticising any "flash" to indicate i have a stronger shot, is that a bug?
I havent ran with it yet just unlocked it after procrastinating last night
I just got that divine element incant, how tf do elements work
with the staff I want to charge it up to hit enemies when they are spawning
but the slowdown means I wait 2 seconds instead of .5
Lol this happened to me constantly last night. I would fan constantly because my timing was wack from the slowdown
Does anyone here feels like Nemesis' event is nigh impossible to win?
though I will say that I'm happy that they aren't just doing hades but with different stuff and are actually making a different game with a different overall playstyle
1000%, I've only won a handful of times.
lol yes, just search "Nemesis" in the #h2-feedback channel
God, getting the "Double range and 3x damage on the final attack in your combo" while I had Aphrodite's Flurry Strikes boon dealt disgusting amounts of damage. It was awesome
wouldn't be much of a nemesis if she was easy I suppose
||who pairs well with hera|| ?
Agree with this completely. It feels fresh and I love it.
||heracles|| is also hard
are the dash boons worth it? I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use them since dash doesn't feel as useful overall as in OG Hades
Is it just me or are the armor-destroying hammers completely bonkers against minibosses? As soon as you pop their armor they can't do anything as long as you just keep attacking
even without the hammers honestly
The Hestia one has been good to me. Deleting incoming projectiles and dealing automatic damage is never a bad thing.
Even if I'm not super sure how exactly her effects work
once you've cleared the armor you spend 30secs mindlessly pressing the same button
Yea the stun lock isnt really all that satisfying
only gripe I have with this game so far (although my best run DID die to floor 2 boss) honestly
And then you run axe which cant even consistently stun lock some mobs lol