#h2-discussion

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whole remnant
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but once i got higher supay and anubis got way tougher

spring breach
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62F Anubis now

whole remnant
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my 62 UW clear i tanked the clock

spring breach
whole remnant
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and had zeus attack static shock and dem cast

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but last part chronos took what felt like forever

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Anubis is still good dont get me wrong but its cracked mid fear

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but high fear it can take a bit to get going, little slower, haven't done over 57 (scars3 and pain removed) on surface, taking too much damage

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supay obv drops off the higher you get and that was prob my fav with circe

willow fog
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Mind tagging it for the newbies peeking in?

whole remnant
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did clear 62 on poseidons adventure with epic pommed breaker rush then wave floursh hidden helix pom pom pom rare 7 wave flourish to 14 for 100 damage waves and hit king tide with slope and zeus attack. other times i fell flat

whole remnant
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dunno why that was a reply

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and charon the only axe i could play gets rough high fear so ended up staff/skulls mainly

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still play some morrigan and coats etc but yeah its a big difference between playing mel staff/mel skulls/persephone and kinda circe between the others

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Circe i still use Raki so thats a lot of safety dropped but its still staff and leash damage crazy double cats etc weighsout

whole remnant
# willow fog This a spoiler btw

i changed it but i am confused on spoilers here, people will give others in depth requirements for end/post stuff and tips for rival phase fights but then thats a spoiler? the spoilers probably pointing it out that draws attention. just really all vague i mean to someone brand new the list of spoilers is pretty much everything discussed here

willow fog
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Also getting selene at the start of a run sucks

whole remnant
willow fog
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Yeah, just saying

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I spoiled someone on that before is all

whole remnant
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yeah its just hard to have a channel to discuss hades II and saying be sensitive about spoillers for new people when practically anthing can be and selene start is a salute from me usually unless maybe i get like twilight curse available

willow fog
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I do agree

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It gets a lil absurd at times

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There are people who still get spoiled on ||Moros||

whole remnant
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usually there is a set time, Hades II been out a while and yeah we still get new players especially with new console launch (which idk why it took so long) but its just very unclear but oh well

lean bronze
bitter stirrup
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I think the last time I played out a Selene start was on my first 62 ever lol cause I got Gigaros

lean bronze
bitter stirrup
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Though my current laptop seems to not even be able to record well so probably wouldn't be able to stream

mortal warren
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hola

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how we doing this morning

high steeple
raven portal
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In the fight vs Rivals Chronos, are you allowed to stand on the black surface? Or do you have to stand on the clocks?

nova oar
mortal warren
high steeple
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Also has anyone else experienced not being able to pick other familiar forms for Raki, Hecuba and Galen?

raven portal
nova oar
high steeple
raven portal
raven portal
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I’ve played since EA and have treated it as insta kill since the first fight I ever had

harsh bluff
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apollo axe is so strong

raven portal
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I just basically didn’t stop dashing since I thought I’d die if I were to stand still. Must have been hit by something and thought “ok I better not stand on the void”

harsh bluff
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with 3 dds i think its almost guaranteed

nova oar
high steeple
raven portal
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Including that super difficult Oceanus Drake mini boss eating my previous two DD

quiet seal
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Welp, I got addicted to the game

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It pulled me in, hook, line and sinker

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Seriously, this game is amazing

raven portal
brisk bison
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Imagine doing a pumped up last gasps run with malice in kind though

quiet seal
raven portal
quiet seal
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Oh I've been a fan of Supergiant Games's, uh, games since Transistor

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Only game I haven't played in full is Pyre, and I intend to get to that eventually

raven portal
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I bought Hades 1 & 2 for Steam, Switch and PS5 and finished Bastion as well at some point.

harsh bluff
raven portal
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The next biome lol

nova oar
fathom lake
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YOu cans do it

sturdy goblet
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What fear are you on

harsh bluff
harsh bluff
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you tell me

sturdy goblet
harsh bluff
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idk anything about fear

sturdy goblet
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Let's go champ

ebon sigil
wide wigeon
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no fear yet

sturdy goblet
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Ignore it Hades2Fire

harsh bluff
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alright

hollow pilot
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yoo, is the hades 2 zagreus journey mod good? like is there new dialogue, story, etc?

wide wigeon
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didnt even know there was a zag mod

ebon sigil
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The roman numerals count down till you see a hourglass looking thing, and that's the last shop before the big bad. @harsh bluff

The rooms that aren't roman numeral are optional extra stuff you might want, but it is an extra room to clear.

ebon sigil
hollow pilot
wide wigeon
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wait what theres a mel mod for h1

fathom lake
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Not yet

ebon sigil
wide wigeon
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with the h1 boons or h2 boons

ebon sigil
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h2 boons

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no h1 weapons or boons... it's just h2 with h1 maps

wide wigeon
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i need to see how mel works with h1 arty boons

ebon sigil
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it's not h1 boons

wide wigeon
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i know

ebon sigil
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that would be hard to mod.

ebon sigil
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I want zag with zag weapons and boons in h2 maps.

harsh bluff
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what do you guys think?

wide wigeon
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idk lmao they modded the knight into silksong why not mel into h1

harsh bluff
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just go in?

wide wigeon
ebon sigil
ebon sigil
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crazy

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just attackin and thats it

fathom lake
ebon sigil
ebon sigil
fathom lake
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I would take aphro Spiritual affirmation couuld be good

ebon sigil
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axe special kinda good tho... probably not even using origination yet

ebon sigil
ebon sigil
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there is an axe aspect where you basically only use omega special

harsh bluff
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might just be self healing

fathom lake
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I like that there are actually a good chunk of Omegaless buiilds

harsh bluff
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but yea

ebon sigil
fathom lake
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Like its the main thing of the game but it doesnt lock you intoo it to have good fun runs

sturdy goblet
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Once you unlock the uhm attack speed aspect for the axe it's gonna become your best friend nectar

fathom lake
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Boooo

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womp womp

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Than its so fun

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Fast chop chop

sturdy goblet
nova oar
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Yeah well it's really bad at max fear at that just makes it unplayable /j

sturdy goblet
nova oar
ebon sigil
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i'm conviced high fear and low fear players are different and the game is in fact very different.

nova oar
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Low fear? literally anything is viable up till like 62

sturdy goblet
nova oar
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When people are saying that things are bad it's just relative to the best meta builds

sturdy goblet
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Meta is whatever, nothing will convince me to try medea again after seeing how it plays, I value my wrists

ebon sigil
strong rapids
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my keybinds make the "roll your finger from attack into special" thing annoying so I just do this instead and it's worked for me, for my crackhead playstyle at least

warm reef
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I am in so much love with this new update. I’m so happy that Hypnos has more content. His new sprites are beautiful and his new mechanic is so cool. I’m so so so happy ough

strong rapids
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same, I never gave up on ares through it all and my loyalty has paid off

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and hypnos content is wonderful as well

ebon sigil
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honestly I could use another Ares buff... I want my god of war to be buffer than hera and zeus combined.

harsh bluff
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I DIED

fathom lake
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wow

harsh bluff
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sadge

ebon sigil
nova oar
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Alot of people first try typhon but i've never seen anyone beat chronos first try

fathom lake
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Typhon was overnerfed

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I genuinely feared surface in the EA

nova oar
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Agreed

ebon sigil
harsh bluff
ebon sigil
harsh bluff
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i might be wrong tho

fathom lake
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I cant remember i have everything maxed for a long time lmfao

ebon sigil
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I don't think so... just need moondust

crude dragon
harsh bluff
crude dragon
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Keep fighting her

harsh bluff
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ive fought her so many times

harsh bluff
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maybe its tooo little times lol

fathom lake
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Everything its good ngl

whole remnant
harsh bluff
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i have 4 more grasp

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dk what to use it on

whole remnant
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buuuut rivals chronos is worse than typhon

ebon sigil
whole remnant
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but the encounters on surface are awful

nova oar
harsh bluff
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location rewards and boons?

ebon sigil
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Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I didn't use lovers until I was also using strength

harsh bluff
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alrght

nova oar
ebon sigil
harsh bluff
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eh prolly

fathom lake
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Aphro its pretty good on the axe!

harsh bluff
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alright

fathom lake
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especially in the attack

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Yummy % dmg

ebon sigil
ebon sigil
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but I almost only used god keepsakes for a build when i was early game, didn't touch the top or bottom rows often.

harsh bluff
ebon sigil
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and 4th!

harsh bluff
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but they are one use

ebon sigil
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you change to a different god

crude dragon
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Yeah, but you can still swap them out

ebon sigil
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3-4 separate but deliberate god choices, especially with rerolls, can make a very cohesive build.

sturdy goblet
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when I was going through early access I used to spam dd, lose them all on cerberus, take gorgon amulet and pray that athena had what I needed 😂

nova oar
harsh bluff
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alright

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how do i get more?

sturdy goblet
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from the wretched broker

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or from charon's for Obol Points (the cards that you get by spending 1k gold on stuff in shops and what not)

slow sphinx
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does hell splitter hammer for the axe work with dash strike?

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or only normal attacks

crude dragon
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Only normal attacks

harsh bluff
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i finally got moros and moon dust

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took me long enough

blissful fog
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guys i am one step closer to reaching the credits

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i only need 3 more typhon clears and 2 more chronos clears

willow fog
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Lmao those Mel statues

blissful fog
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ok im getting 2 great runs in a row

fathom lake
willow fog
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I have just got it to 16 so far

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Whats last statue need btw

cunning laurel
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32 24 i think

willow fog
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Thats rough, ty

blissful fog
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omg i beat typhon twice in a row

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this build is insane

hearty idol
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wow Ares got reworked??! it feels pretty good now hellyeahGandalf

fathom lake
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Yes!

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I will mis the dumb 600% plasma runs though

blissful fog
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ok

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gigaros aqquired

wide wigeon
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lowk thought we'd get to do the whole night with gigaros once i got it

fathom lake
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Yeah i would have loved to play the Spear with mel

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it already knda has an omega attack an omea special

unborn bison
jolly hound
fathom lake
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Justa mild rework

unborn bison
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What are the changes

unborn bison
fathom lake
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Legendary wasnt working a lot and Plasma was his whole personality

jolly hound
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His legendary now buffs wounds a lot, grisly gain is now viable as a regen boon, profuse bleeding now drops a sword on a dude when you get blood drops

merry whale
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grisly now is flat 20% (still gets affected by succ rate), and pomming increases mana gained per plasma

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no longer jpom dependent which is huge

jolly hound
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He can stand on his own now not just henious affront

merry whale
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now if tranquil gain wasn't jpom dependent that'd be huge too

unborn bison
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I need a Hades 3

jolly hound
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Tranquil gain isn’t as bad as ya think

merry whale
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hades 3 would be cool but i really wanna just see a new ip lol

fathom lake
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Tranquil gain its terally 100% per second at rare lmfao

jolly hound
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It won’t work for p array but there’s plenty of chances to pause and refill

blissful fog
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im so excited for the jeweled pom ngl

jolly hound
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yes true

fathom lake
blissful fog
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which is why i want it

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i need 2 more typhon clears and 1 more chronos clear to reach the credits

unkempt zodiac
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Jpom does remove a lot of strategy in favor of random fun

fathom lake
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yes

jolly hound
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part of the fun is making it work

merry whale
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there is still the fact that u need to know which boons are the good ones to pick up

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it also does shift a lot in what boons are good especially with ones with crazy pom scaling

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like hereditary bane rarity only increases it by 5% but each pom is a flat +10% which is insane

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pyro tech practically triples in effectiveness

buoyant matrix
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jpom rapture ring my beloved 🫀

blissful fog
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chat im getting closerrr

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i finally got desintegration of monstrosity

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2 more runs and its over

jolly hound
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Jpom makes heph great too

blissful fog
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poseidon and hera have been saving my builds frinsane

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aspect of shiva poseidon attack hera special

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ares dash and hestia cast

proud swift
ebon sigil
fathom lake
ebon sigil
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how does shiva handle posidon waves?

fathom lake
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I mean

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It works

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Its not a slow normal attack combo and since the normal attack does decent damage already its not bad
I wouldnt call it idea though

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Hera special its decent though
I prefer Apollo or Aprho

ebon sigil
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using shiva's base attack is like using any of the other cloaks base attack... so why mention shiva?

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honestly i haven't used shiva much personally

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grave thirst hasn't chosen cloak much for me like the last 20 runs maybe once.

fathom lake
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It has a slightly slower but tankier attack
THat i remember

broken creek
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yeah shiva wants % on its attack

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apollo iirc is prefered since it makes it huge

crude dragon
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Ares is

fathom lake
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It could work

crude dragon
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Because Wounds works with Destructive stacks

fathom lake
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Since it takes a whle to charge up

ebon sigil
crude dragon
fathom lake
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You just gotta be careful to not waste it on normal attack

crude dragon
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Especially once you get the Legendary

ebon sigil
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sounds fun like a suprise boom explode build

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does heph bonks get shiva boosted?

fathom lake
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  • slow cooker
broken creek
fathom lake
broken creek
ebon sigil
broken creek
ebon sigil
broken creek
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its coat so its still strong

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but it just needs different builds than the regular 3 and avoids its omegas like the plague since its so expensive for so little payoff

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which is also why apollo is the standard take, the final hit of the attack combo has 140 power to work with lol

fathom lake
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heh knew it

hot kernel
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Hey everyone! I finished Hades I on PS5 today (it was awesome). Now I'm itching to play Hades II, also on PS5. But I was wondering if there will be a physical version, as I'm quite keen on being able to collect such great games in my library, or if there will only be a digital version (forever) and therefore I won't have to wait.

proud swift
reef sail
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When I tried shiva the oattack felt like it had no aoe at all

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Does it only get decent aoe with Apollo?

nova oar
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takes alot of skill

broken creek
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or you just do the normal thing of play like it doesnt exist lol

reef sail
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Why is Selene start so common 💀

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Stop it, game

vital hollow
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Does the power boost from hell splitter still apply to the axe's dash attack?

halcyon rain
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no

reef sail
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You ever start a run aiming for knuckle bones circe dialog but you don’t want to throw it so you just keep going

crude dragon
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It's not awful, but you really need to see at least two sources of attack speed before you can click it

reef sail
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It’s fun tho

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And then you die

whole remnant
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like no frenzy low fear you can get away with it

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but third strikes leave you way open for damage esp frenzy 2. thats why all the axe builds are omega psychic whirlwind/furious, charon omega spam, and mel axe dashing heave

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when you play mel axe if you don't get dashing heave the next best thing is rapid hack and nimble limbs better rarity and avoid the third hit

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but for high fear mel axe its dashing heave 👍

jovial wedge
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Man prometheus has still not mentioned dora a second time, I'm multiple runs past finding the ||fates||| wtf

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Anybody know if I can run an olympus trial to get more odds at him mentioning her, can character stories be progressed in a trial?

honest quarry
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Does Fate’s Whim stay active if you put on Selene’s keepsake?

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I would think so since she’s not an Olympian, just wanna confirm

vital hollow
honest quarry
sullen thorn
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Can someone help me

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I just got an heroic boon for no reason at all

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It's my first time

bitter stirrup
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It was probably the scripted Heroic Sea Star

sullen thorn
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Yep

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It's the last Patch?

bitter stirrup
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Yeah it was added recently

jolly wing
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What triggers Narcissus to meet Echo?

Does Nemesis have to visit Echo’s area for Narcissus to meet Echo?

I entered Narcissus room just now and his dialogue is silent. He’s not complaining about murky waters anymore.

strong rapids
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I swear after the latest patch half the time I return to the crossroads moros wants to get freaky

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bro needs to relax

bitter stirrup
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Same lol I usually just ignore him (not Eris though)

strong rapids
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of course, can't ignore eris

brisk bison
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PSA: don't mix Island Getaway with Aphro legendary if you have Glamour Gain

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Weak will only apply once so you won't get the repeated benefits

reef sail
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bouldy circe really said bring the bones a second time

jovial wedge
strong rapids
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we ALL love eris

proper seal
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we all HATE eris

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we all HATE strife lol

reef sail
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We all love babe

whole remnant
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easy boss and gives some luvin

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shes fine in my book

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not clingey like moros either

halcyon rain
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she wants it bad, shows up literally all the time wanting to go at it

craggy totem
candid nimbus
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If I'd have to pick a relationship, I'd pick Moros, but I draw the line at straight relationships. I'm sorry Mel, you're ace now

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(I am also ace too, so samesieeeees! bouldy )

reef sail
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I wanna do another save where I decline everyone

strong rapids
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sigma grindset mel

candid nimbus
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We all know her true canon: she loves Frinos

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As I supposed, embed fail

craggy totem
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Her true love is, according to Homer (the most reliable narrator), the discus throw.

willow fog
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Love how Homer deadass says she didnt win the game but won everyones hearts

toxic whale
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just got 150 max hp boost from one location in the city, double heart plus two single hearts from side-rooms plus two extra hearts from sea star 🤩

wide wigeon
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have another

fathom lake
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BOUNDLESS RICHES!

strong rapids
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getting sea star on a mega heart is such a great feeling

jolly wing
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If you remain with one romance, can you romance other characters?

wide wigeon
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yes

merry echo
jolly wing
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So it's not just choose one but you're locked out of the rest?

wide wigeon
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you can choose to do them all

hearty timber
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These are deathless gods it's chill

reef sail
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You choose to allow or deny each relationship to become romantic

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Nothing else determines which ones go either way

reef sail
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Persephone skull makes absolutely no sense melcry

cunning laurel
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how so

cursive nacelle
nova oar
prisma monolith
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Very strong

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Also the free poms, I believe it can roll up to +6? Someone correct me if im wrong

red fox
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Lv 5 aspect is up to +6

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It very rare tho

prisma monolith
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Right but still

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Just get lucky melproud

red fox
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2~4 most of the time if it even come with extra level

prisma monolith
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Thats still good, just for using the weapon

red fox
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There is something like 50% chance for no extra pom iirc

cursive nacelle
willow fog
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Thansks

granite cosmos
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You know what would be cool an endless mod for the game where you just need to survive for as many levels as possible but it also lets you plsy as other characters

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Like in resident evil with mercury

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Like you could play as Odysseus and nemesis and stuff

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Hades is even already programmed to be playbel in a flash back

prisma monolith
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Never been a fan of endless myself, i dont see the appeal

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I know hades 1 had a mod for it

cunning laurel
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yea ive never seen any game have a good endless mode

prisma monolith
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Risk of rain 2 is the best contender imo, and I still dislike looping

granite cosmos
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I just want to be able to play as other characters

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And you can have cool stuff like Odysseus actually get debuffs from possidon but has a bigger chance to get help from Athena

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And hades could like summon red dogy to help him

prisma monolith
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Oh on that I agree

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No endless needed for that

prisma monolith
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He calls himself hades yes

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The lord of the dead 💪

harsh bluff
prisma monolith
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One would say so

harsh bluff
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scorn could be good

spiral dawn
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I like the scorn dash

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Esp since it combines with your dash/rush boon

nova oar
harsh bluff
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alright

prisma monolith
harsh bluff
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oh yea i can meet the new gods

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im deffo going up

harsh bluff
prisma monolith
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How could I

short raft
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Moondust is used for far more things imo, having full grasp is nice, but like, if your cards are tier 1, full grasp doesnt matter much

harsh bluff
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hmm alright

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so i am lacking more on moondust rn

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make sense

short raft
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The moondust grind is real

short raft
harsh bluff
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im like new ngl

prisma monolith
short raft
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Well pick up special and try to find the hammer than make your special bounce and shot 2 specials at close range

short raft
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that should carry ur game

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ye lvl1 staff

harsh bluff
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alright i will try

nova oar
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On staff anyway

harsh bluff
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last round i went into chronos with blitz

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blitz attack

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quite good

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btw why am i losing health?

short raft
harsh bluff
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i died from losing health

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or smtg simila lol

short raft
nova oar
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You need to dash to iframe it

harsh bluff
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its like leaking health or smtg

nova oar
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Yeah it's always like that

short raft
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Oh its the surffice

prisma monolith
prisma monolith
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As you should

short raft
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true and factual

harsh bluff
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so i should speed blitz it?

prisma monolith
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Yes

harsh bluff
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or i need healing

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alright

prisma monolith
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Until you get the spell that helps with it

harsh bluff
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what is the difference between bathsalts and nectar

prisma monolith
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One is for the bath, the other is for regular gifting

harsh bluff
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oh right

prisma monolith
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If you check the items in your inventory it gives you a description

harsh bluff
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melinoe don't need to shower

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i finally got skull

lean bronze
harsh bluff
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have you guys ever used your omega casts?

short raft
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ye

prisma monolith
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From time to time yes, depending weapon, builds etc

harsh bluff
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i complete forget that it has an omega

lean bronze
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what is an omega cast lol

harsh bluff
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exactly

prisma monolith
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A cast thats omega

harsh bluff
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skull is finnnicky

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imma do my usual apollo axe and see how quick i kill

reef sail
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Skull is goat

harsh bluff
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Idk how did i died

prisma monolith
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Me neither

harsh bluff
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i had 30 hp and just cleared the floor

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maybe i run into one of the structural enemies

prisma monolith
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Maybe you died to fate

harsh bluff
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maybe

short raft
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can someone answer my question at #fan-works ?

cunning laurel
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better to just google it lol

limpid oar
bitter stirrup
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Yeah p much just for Huntress especially when I have auto-fire on like on Mel Coat

limpid oar
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Also on circe early game I like ocasting, it's one of the better ways of dealing with tankier enemies before the build comes together

wheat stream
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VoR typhon makes everything annoying about it more annoying but its lowkey way more fun

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Except the mithrix pizza ass final phase

cunning laurel
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damn i never made that correlation but its pretty similar huh

prisma monolith
willow fog
wheat stream
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Its basically mithrix pizza

prisma monolith
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Oh I see

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Yeah very annoying

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Dont think ive ever died during that

wheat stream
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Its not about it being hard its more how bad it feels to do

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Cause you’re not actually fighting you just hope you dont get your ass beat

prisma monolith
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Yeah I know i agree, its annoying

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Tbf tho its completely fine for bosses to have dodge phases

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But idk something about the way they did doesnt feel good

night veldt
#

Is it just me and my luck or are chaos boons less useful than any normal boons you could get?

prisma monolith
#

It depends on what gets offered

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100% attack damage increase is quite a big deal if youre doing attack build

ebon sigil
ebon sigil
prisma monolith
#

Why i said it depends son what gets offered

night veldt
#

Like when you don't know what will you get it's like for some of the boons the curse is just too costly to take

#

The number of nice runs that eneded because I took something good on the cost of stuns, and then some fight just stunlocked me for all my life, or I couldn't use my attack on a boss

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That's a tough way to learn

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But then most of the boons are like +mana, or +mana regen, or +speed which are all not worth the risk for me

eager gust
#

whats the best way to get the arachne armour to chronos

blissful fog
bitter stirrup
#

Hera/Demeter keepsake start, hope to get the other one naturally for, Hephaestus keepsake next, hope for Cherished Heirloom, hopefully while you have Silken Sash already equipped for even more extra armor

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But that's probably unnecessary it's just what I did to try to get the most armor possible to Chronos for a challenge lol, probably just take Silken Sash the whole time

eager gust
#

i just went into a normal run and i have 211 armour going into tart

jolly wing
#

I’m on Night 40.

I have all the Nightmares that I need for upgrades.

spring breach
#

Think we got to like 450+ or smth right?

bitter stirrup
spring breach
#

Jfc 😂

eager gust
#

i had 533 if you include temporary heph armour

spring breach
#

I guess it was worth keeping Silken sash equipped from Oceanus onwards

eager gust
#

the heph bonus damage from armour is so free if you just dont lose ot

spring breach
#

Ye Heavy Metal’s fun

eager gust
#

i had all the heph armour

#

trusty shield is really helpful for keeping the armour up

#

the funniest thing was jpom gave me life tax

#

who needs healing when you have 500 armour

harsh bluff
#

is boon not guaranteed in the surface?

tranquil wren
#

like at the start? you either get a hammer, selene, or a boon

harsh bluff
#

ahh alright

willow fog
#

The selene is the worst by far

harsh bluff
#

bruh i just die on the surface

willow fog
#

On higher fear its a cursed start

harsh bluff
#

idk how to survive

heady socket
#

i think you need some kind of incantation

harsh bluff
#

alright i googled

#

thanks for the hints

blissful fog
#

i did it

#

i got to the credits

harsh bluff
#

how do i grind chaos?

#

like get more chaos

#

i guess i could intentionally die and reset

eager gust
#

sometimes theres items in the wells that give you a chaos room

harsh bluff
#

i rerolled it and it didn't come

#

do i always get origin seeds now

#

?

#

now that i died in the surface

crimson badger
#

What the hell

#

Someone simultaneously cleared both surface and underworld at 50 fear

bitter stirrup
harsh bluff
#

dayumn

crude dragon
crimson badger
#

Oh I didn't know they were in this discord

heady socket
#

hi

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yeah i didn't expect that many people to view the video, maybe i should have put some more effort into/commentary or something

#

i'm still getting the youtube notifications for it...

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if i can find two friends to borrow laptops from i'll try to do three at once. i'd like to do four but then i'd need to borrow a lot more things

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and if i do that, i'll try to have commentary for it

strong rapids
#

gotta be h1 underworld, h2 underworld, and h2 surface for the next vid

harsh bluff
#

the safety pin keepsake is insane

#

it actually is cracked

jolly hound
#

that is amazing you pulled that off tho melsalute

heady socket
blissful fog
#

just found out its not a very good idea to ||fight zag|| in the first region

past violet
#

+40% faster

#

I got pierced like heaven's messenger too just like you

blissful fog
#

lol

blissful fog
#

i had 64 hp

prisma monolith
#

shucks

#

try dodging next time FrinosSmooch

#

welcome to the house of hades, thanks for dying

blissful fog
prisma monolith
#

given you died, not that?

blissful fog
#

blocking you /j

prisma monolith
#

id block myself too

blissful fog
#

well, at least ive learned smth

prisma monolith
#

now thats a win

blissful fog
#

i've set myself a challenge rn

#

i wont stop playing until i get either the jpom or the time piece

#

and i got the jpom

blissful fog
#

bro the jpom is so fire

prisma monolith
#

it is

#

i start every run with it

jolly hound
#

yall member the hades 1 reroll and keepsake meta

strong rapids
#

i wonder if an "only one element" run would be interesting. like you cant take any element besides earth. would that even be hard

#

having greatest gift of gaia + the incantation that random gives you elements for harvesting resources would definitely throw a wrench in that plan

reef sail
#

The simple fact that you can’t refuse a boon would make it not really possible

strong rapids
#

yeah :/

#

i was thinking maybe you just take fewer boons, i know boonless in hades 1 is possible, idk if hades 2 forces more boons on you

reef sail
#

Boonless h2 is actually easier

strong rapids
#

so it would just be a slightly lamer version of a boonless run xD

reef sail
#

H1 r4 you could be forced to take boons after the last guaranteed purging pool

#

Tart avoids that here. Summit could still force you tho

eager gust
#

i was on pace for a new surface pb and died like an idiot :(

#

i hate tail of typhon

broken creek
night veldt
#

I don't get why Athena's keepsake has this weird requirement now, makes her again a god of one boon

crude dragon
#

I mean, yeah? Those boons are also run-defining

night veldt
#

Cos if you have no dd left you sure as hell going to pick reflective dash

crude dragon
#

And are even sometimes worth breaking Fate's Whim to get them

halcyon rain
crude dragon
#

Or "Literally just Stubborn Defiance"

night veldt
#

I once took reflective special on the Skull and it was sad

crude dragon
#

Well yeah, Phalanx Shot is the worst thing she has

night veldt
#

Cos Mel launched forward with the speed of light, and the reflective shield just kinda lagged behind and never reflected a thing

#

And I was left with no dd, so I just lost the run alltogether

reef sail
#

Deflect cast seems good

#

Divine dash wasn’t even OP in 1 it was just very comfy and fit in nearly any build

night veldt
#

I gotta say, I picked her other boons just for the quest, and my eyes are trained to only pick the two with death defiance

crude dragon
#

Mental Block is great, Divine Dash is still good, Righteous Pike is great for MP-heavy runs, the DD refill is run-saving, Task Force is funny, Stalwart Stand is great if you're not using MP, Defensive Posture is alright for survivability

Phalanx Shot exists

reef sail
#

Splash dash supremacy don’t @ me

#

Unless you want to ig

night veldt
#

And it's not only dd refill, it gives you additional 20% HP for each

jolly hound
eager gust
#

i have officially got more playtime in h2 than in h1 now

jolly hound
reef sail
#

H1 divine dash was some bell curve shi

eager gust
reef sail
#

If you’re bad you love the crutch, if you’re really good and doing high heat you need the safety

#

Anywhere in the middle you’re much better off with splash dash

#

Unless ME

eager gust
#

i miss athena being a full boon god

reef sail
#

I do not, as my username here may suggest

eager gust
#

my fav h1 build was athena based

#

pos sword with athena/zeus duo cast

#

athenas call was mid when you had hades call

reef sail
#

Phalanx pos was fun yeah until your casts fly off into lava 😭

eager gust
#

also should i post a possible bugged enemy location in tech support

#

or is that more for getting help with fixable issues

eager gust
#

like you can barely see it in the screenshot

reef sail
#

I’ve knocked an enemy off the map in erebus before like that

reef sail
#

Time to try great chaos

#

Wards2 shiva

#

I’m crine

#

And denial

#

Oh I’m blind it’s mel coat

proper seal
#

I experienced something on a video that I never experienced in my playthrough

#

|| Eris can give you a curse in Oceanus if you perform well in the run, what does the curse do?||

nova oar
proper seal
#

ha sounds like torture

nova oar
true nova
#

||does prometheus dodge thing work on your hex attack like the moon beam?||

true nova
#

ah ok thanks

foggy sable
#

||so zagreus can show up in almost any area, which weapons are easiest and hardest to beat him with no boons?||

nova oar
bitter stirrup
#

I never fight him but I bet coat would be really easy with special spam

nova oar
merry whale
reef sail
#

are the arcana for great chaos trials fixed?

#

Or does it just love giving me the unseen for funni

tardy swift
#

What does the infinity symbol mean when looking at relationship bonds with certain characters? Some have it and some don’t even though the bond is maxed out for each.

crude dragon
#

I think that's letting you still gift them stuff like Lures and Bath Salts despite their relationship no longer requiring them to progress?

wide wigeon
#

chat how do I get the new stuff from the new patch I js got to the epilogue again after the reset

wide wigeon
reef sail
#

Was gonna gonna complain about great chaos above giving me toula plus strength for two attempts in a row

#

But this time it was toula and no strength or death

reef sail
jolly wing
#

Hurray, I’m going to reach Epilogue on Night 41.

I have enough Nightmares to upgrade all of my weapons. I need one more Underworld run to unlock hidden Staff aspect.

I’m almost done leveling up all of my keep sakes. Maybe they’ll be fully leveled up by around night 45.

reef sail
#

That’s a low night count, you must have planned this well

reef sail
# wide wigeon from who?

I don’t remember exactly what triggered it showing up. Ik that Hades and Nyx talk about him sometimes

wide wigeon
#

ahh I'll js run a few nights lets see what happens thanks

jolly wing
#

A lot of Sea Stars and Buried Treasures. All of my runs had them.

wide wigeon
#

dio party?

reef sail
#

I dunno what the Heracles stuff is I guess

limpid stream
#

Is there a convenient way to see what aspects I’ve gotten clears with?

bitter stirrup
#

There's something you can unlock

limpid stream
#

Why didn’t I think of the record keeper rip

willow fog
#

Lmao

harsh bluff
#

i think we switch

#

after a few poms its gonna turn into 3 or 2 seconds

#

then we profit from a lot of damage

#

i guess i don't really use my flourish

#

ill try it

#

hmmmmm

#

nah its alright i guess... no point picking a boon i don't need

#

ill get shield

#

if it was strike i would snap pick it

grave remnant
#

has anyone ever had the chaos blessing "will" be taken away somehow? Like I got it as my second boon and then once I'd cleared the curse and the blessing started working I forgot about it until the boss fight(Polyphemus) where I didn't have any mana regen and now when I look at my boons, it's nowhere to be seen.

buoyant matrix
grave remnant
#

i had jeweled pom

#

my god... why'd i take the echo keepsake... thing has screwed me over more times than it has helped....

harsh bluff
#

i got my aspects damn

#

can’t wait to try circe

crude dragon
#

So this is my first time taking the post-buff Nyx Coat for a spin, and good gods is it juiced

#

Like, I knew it was good from other people's testimonies, but I hadn't realized it was this good

wheat stream
#

Born gain double hubris bad idea?

nova oar
wheat stream
#

Alright

limpid oar
verbal rampart
crude dragon
wide wigeon
#

chat what do i get to do with the ||shiny stars from hypnos dream dive||

bitter stirrup
#

Decorations

harsh bluff
#

i died at prometheus

#

can’t remember the combination lol

wide wigeon
harsh bluff
#

the fire combination

wide wigeon
#

dash to dodge the flames

harsh bluff
wide wigeon
#

you can do it i believe in you

harsh bluff
#

i’ll try

#

i unlocked a lot

#

that was basically my first non cursed surface game

bitter stirrup
#

But what most people do is just say it out loud

night veldt
#

Can Bearing Dark Gifts prophecy be finished in sleep with Hyonos?

harsh bluff
wide wigeon
night veldt
#

It says "Shall prevail against either of her ultimate adversaries using each and every Aspect"

#

Imma try anyway

#

Doubt tho

crude dragon
#

I'd assume so, but with the caveat that you still have to win a run

night veldt
#

Daem a Dream Dive threw me straight on summit and I already lost 2 defiances right in the first chamber

limpid oar
wide wigeon
#

i was actually feeling floaty asl cause the shades in fields were going down so quick

night veldt
#

Holy mother and rivals works there still Hades2Fire

#

That was quick

cunning laurel
wide wigeon
#

i see i see ig fields is easy

cunning laurel
#

fields is the easily the best start yea

willow fog
#

Fields is snowball heaven

#

Then we have erebus bs selene/max magick spam

whole remnant
#

so its 50/50 you're not going back to salute

#

I was taking random aspects (non axe) and doing 62 dives yesterday

#

got hel and supay

#

per request of the discord channel

#

at least Hel is pretty good but Supay was stupid hard even with a good start including epic breaker rush and rare flame strike and melting helix

#

theres a 62 Supay dive on cross roads but its Vang who is amazing at Supay and stupid good in general

#

only one 67f clear by raj lol maniacs

eager gust
#

why is fields such a good start

cunning laurel
#

lot of boons

bitter stirrup
#

Enemies and boss are not too hard and you are likely to get 2+ boons plus free minor rewards for Artificer

merry whale
#

in high fear dream dives, fields & oceanus are basically the only two regions u can start with where u can actually comfortably get a good build going

mystic ruin
#

Good Typhon fights are lowk hella unsatisfying because of the no health bar lol.

whole remnant
#

and rivals cerb isn't bad if you have like half your build set and know how to use the aspect

whole remnant
#

thessaly is definitely annoying but has an easy rivals boss

merry whale
whole remnant
#

i actually have quite a few 62 clears but 3 started in fields

#

its the best

#

mel staffx2, circe, mel skulls, persephone, mel coat

lean bronze
#

melcry i lost my 50f nergal surface one hit away from victory
typhons chin slam has a weird hitbox

willow fog
#

Erebus is a bad start because you just get less to work with

lean bronze
#

and because cerb is a lot less oppressive compared to other rivals or just normal bosses

lean bronze
willow fog
#

Oh I just mean why erebus is a bad starting area in general

#

Meanwhile we have ephyra

nova oar
#

Erebus suuuuuuuucks

willow fog
#

God I love ephyra

lean bronze
nova oar
willow fog
#

Medea hooking me up with 5 mp per room

#

Whats the best gold converts btw

lean bronze
willow fog
#

Other than chaos boons

lean bronze
willow fog
#

Cuz moon trade in price is ass

#

So deity boons

bitter stirrup
#

Selene is 500/300

real scarab
#

I love purging the first moon and then buying it from shop for 180

#

I don't purge at all tho if I have good money

raw kraken
torn wind
#

Honestly I never purge god boons unless they would force me to sacrifice due to denial

bitter stirrup
#

I've definitely purged a forced Ares miniboss in Thessaly before

torn wind
#

Or if I absolutely can’t afford hubris magick loss I suppose

#

That’s fair I guess if you REALLY don’t want the god but that’s pretty rare

#

I’m just saying telling people to “purge god boons” isn’t especially accurate

#

Cause like you’ll get more gold than you ever need by just purging Poms, tonics and minor rewards

#

Unless you’re playing on debt 2 just purging 4 minor rewards in region 2 gives you more money than you’ll probably spend on boons at every shop after

halcyon rain
#

i'm an ares fan so even if its not great for my build i get him but i have purged lots of other boons before specially aphro

prisma monolith
#

😐

torn wind
#

<@&456908176877551658>

#

Smitten ⚡️

torpid grove
#

HAHA YES!

frank mulch
#

yep

#

ur welc

verbal rampart
#

Wow, I missed the fun part where the mods banish

grave flame
#

even gifs are not allowed for newcomers

wide wigeon
#

gifs are not allowed for anyone

buoyant matrix
# frank mulch

it has been years since the last time i saw an embed in this channel 👴

#

also great edit lmao

frank mulch
#

that is a full on image. not even an embed this is the REAL thing

grave flame
#

envy fills me

quasi kite
#

hi
i want to unlock nergal, i maxed out charon's axe, do i need to talk to charon with the axe equipped or is just chance based?

buoyant matrix
quasi kite
#

yeah i have all non hidden aspects unlocked and both melinoe axe and charon's axe maxed out

#

ty

reef sail
tranquil wren
#

yea like aspect of circe does not need max rank for it to shine

trail folio
#

Eris just called Raki ugly..

tranquil wren
#

raki never catches a break

harsh bluff
#

if i play staff special omegas... i prioritise percentage specials right?

#

like apollo

crude dragon
wheat stream
#

Yall i genuinely ran through every single piece of medea dialogue and i cant get the hypnos quest one is my file locked out of it?💀

crude dragon
#

No?

wheat stream
#

As far as i know ||after the firat time you enter the dream you get the second part of the spell from medea no?||

strong phoenix
#

Can anybody tell me if 32 heat or 32 fear in underworld route is harder?

reef sail
#

32 fear general considered easier than h1 32 heat

strong phoenix
#

Each other

reef sail
#

Yeah I misunderstood

strong phoenix
#

Your good

strong phoenix
nova oar
harsh bluff
#

is there a certain pet that works best with circe?

nova oar
nova oar
harsh bluff
#

i basically trying to play around my omega spec

harsh bluff
#

idk when ill get them tho

crude dragon
#

I'm very biased towards having Hitch sources

harsh bluff
#

i think my origination needs me to have 2 sources of curse

#

so it feels dumb to go all in on freeze

#

im waiting for fire for my attack

#

or like poseidon

harsh bluff
#

ill prime some magic

#

forage is pretty pitiful

wheat stream
crude dragon
#

Shouldn't you be gifting her 2 Nectar anyways for her reward list prophecy?

pure cargo
#

What are the best gods now

wheat stream
#

Like i will fully gift someone and after that start with another one

crude dragon
#

Hestia, Ares, and Hephaestus are all in a dead heat for third

wheat stream
reef sail
#

Lots of stuff is gated by relationship progress

wheat stream
reef sail
#

And since most bonds (maxed relationship) are gated by small tasks or story progress anyway, rushing one at a time early on prob doesn’t even do much for you

prisma monolith
#

the game kinda wants you to slowly work on everything instead of rushing specific things

#

mostly since you can only talk to characters once per run

eager gust
#

what would be the optimal dream dive order if you wanted the quickest regions

#

not based on getting a build

crude dragon
#

Fields, Summit, Tartarus, and Ephyra, I'd assume?

tranquil wren
#

wait can you get ephyra as the last region?

crude dragon
#

Yep

tranquil wren
#

dang, I've never had that

crude dragon
#

Traces of Spirit becomes 20/room

#

And Suffering's cap is 2999 damage

broken creek
eager gust
#

i just realised how quick early summit is even though you cant get a good build going so i wondered if there was an order for speed

broken creek
#

fields -> ephyra -> erebus -> thessaly is the high fear order since you get a massive build and timer becomes a non issue, only problem with going like fields -> summit -> tart means you have like actually nothing to work with unless you get lucky in fields or take tart side rooms which is a bit against the idea

#

regardless speed comes from a strong build so fields -> ephyra would be necessary id assume

#

but you also wanna dodge r4 bosses since they take forever, same with olympus

#

and an r4 erebus is evil because hecate gets 9x hp lmao

dim gorge
#

i wish they added appendixes to the game

#

like a collectible or a material or something

#

i wanna see an appendix in supergiants artstyle

broken creek
#

since first 2 give you a build fast, oceanus with skips is stupid fast, and wantler tart is also kinda a joke

halcyon rain
#

you just never want to see olympus, ever

eager gust
#

whats the nightmare order

torn wind
#

Olympus final region

#

It’s not as bad as it was before to get tart or summit since the end shop is more heavily weighted to give boons now

crude dragon
halcyon rain
limpid stream
#

Lvl 19 flutter strike + mirrored thrasher + secret crush + lvl 4 glamor gain + island getaway lmao

torn wind
#

But no nervous wreck RIP

austere oxide
#

Hi, is there any 'trick' to getting the 'Last Gasp' blessing from Hades? I'm on night 100 and don't have it yet. I really like running Strength. But the requirement is to take the Death card when running the Underworld route, and cross your fingers when you meet Hades, right?

tranquil wren
#

I think if you use jpom you can get it? could be wrong though, I've never used Death + jpom

#

but yeah I don't think there's any hades blessing you can't get with jpom

reef sail
#

Does getting them via jpom cross them off his prophecy list?

#

I finished it long before getting the pom

tranquil wren
#

no clue either haha

austere oxide
#

I wonder if you have to get it from Hades once before you can use the jpom. I'll keep trying (both ways) - I have the jpom as my default keepsake, that gives a double chance. 👍

reef sail
#

They’re really gonna make me pick between soul filled ankh and dual moonshot

crude dragon
#

What's the former do? More damage on the OAttack?

reef sail
#

5 flat to attacks and wider radius

crude dragon
#

Oh

reef sail
#

I got an epic chaos strike boon so I’m gonna lean into it

bitter stirrup
#

In general the attack hammers are probably the best for Anubis anyway, though Ospec builds are fun

reef sail
#

Turn that 5 into 9 😎

bitter stirrup
#

Attack is way more efficient

prisma monolith
unkempt zodiac
#

does discordant bell last even when you take it off

crude dragon
#

The accumulated stacks will, but it won't keep ticking up

reef sail
#

38 second chronos fight

#

I don’t think I’ve been that fast before

reef sail
#

Two trips to the crossroads in a row where I wasn’t allowed to gift anyone 🤨

#

Oh, I think because I had “time passes” events within the run both times

jolly wing
#

What’s better?

Ares Attack/Special + Grievous Blow

Or Apollo Legendary

On an omega build with Hera as the main damage.

Apollo Legendary requires 4 boons compared to Ares 2 boons. Or Zeus 1 boon for Blitz.

bitter stirrup
#

Can't say without knowing the aspect

bitter stirrup
#

But if it's just "strongest" then it's gonna be Exceptional Talent

pine flume
#

how much do i have to spend at Hermes shrines ... shocked I havent spent enough yet

bleak otter
reef sail
wide wigeon
#

whoever opened my eyes on how good born gain is, thank you

reef sail
#

Convincing my friend who misses the rail to keep playing this game because the rail is in it

#

And it’s not even a lie technically

candid nimbus
#

I suppose Aspect of ||Hel|| counts as the spiritual sucessor of the Rail

reef sail
#

I just meant the one Eris wields

#

They haven’t even gotten that far yet

candid nimbus
#

Ohhhh, right, right zaglol