#h2-discussion
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62F Anubis now
my 62 UW clear i tanked the clock
Pffft same. Didn’t know what I was doing back then
and had zeus attack static shock and dem cast
but last part chronos took what felt like forever
Anubis is still good dont get me wrong but its cracked mid fear
but high fear it can take a bit to get going, little slower, haven't done over 57 (scars3 and pain removed) on surface, taking too much damage
supay obv drops off the higher you get and that was prob my fav with circe
This a spoiler btw
Mind tagging it for the newbies peeking in?
did clear 62 on poseidons adventure with epic pommed breaker rush then wave floursh hidden helix pom pom pom rare 7 wave flourish to 14 for 100 damage waves and hit king tide with slope and zeus attack. other times i fell flat
supay 65 must be crazy hard
dunno why that was a reply
and charon the only axe i could play gets rough high fear so ended up staff/skulls mainly
still play some morrigan and coats etc but yeah its a big difference between playing mel staff/mel skulls/persephone and kinda circe between the others
Circe i still use Raki so thats a lot of safety dropped but its still staff and leash damage crazy double cats etc weighsout
i changed it but i am confused on spoilers here, people will give others in depth requirements for end/post stuff and tips for rival phase fights but then thats a spoiler? the spoilers probably pointing it out that draws attention. just really all vague i mean to someone brand new the list of spoilers is pretty much everything discussed here
Its more the fact there is a ||phase 3 for vows||
Also getting selene at the start of a run sucks
yeah thats small potatoes to discussions i see here is all.
yeah its just hard to have a channel to discuss hades II and saying be sensitive about spoillers for new people when practically anthing can be and selene start is a salute from me usually unless maybe i get like twilight curse available
I do agree
It gets a lil absurd at times
There are people who still get spoiled on ||Moros||
also most subs and discords have like a 3 month policy or something, i've never been on one thats just indefinite
usually there is a set time, Hades II been out a while and yeah we still get new players especially with new console launch (which idk why it took so long) but its just very unclear but oh well
we love a cinecary circle x selene start
I think the last time I played out a Selene start was on my first 62 ever lol cause I got Gigaros
do you do streams
not on topic, just curious
Nah but I've been thinking of doing so in the speedcord
Though my current laptop seems to not even be able to record well so probably wouldn't be able to stream

lemme know if you do try/start
Getting ready to wind down for today because it‘s 5pm
In the fight vs Rivals Chronos, are you allowed to stand on the black surface? Or do you have to stand on the clocks?
It's 1.22am and I have work in 7 hours
It's all solid ground

Also has anyone else experienced not being able to pick other familiar forms for Raki, Hecuba and Galen?
I won’t get insta-killed?
There are no instakills in p3
But it does take a big chunk of your health if he attacks
…I feel dumb…
I’ve played since EA and have treated it as insta kill since the first fight I ever had
apollo axe is so strong
I just basically didn’t stop dashing since I thought I’d die if I were to stand still. Must have been hit by something and thought “ok I better not stand on the void”
with 3 dds i think its almost guaranteed
Well yeah, it'd be stupid if chronos didnt attack
Bruh lmfao
Well depending on your health at that point in the fight it might as well end in an instakill
lol it was bad combo of nerves plus my last DD
Including that super difficult Oceanus Drake mini boss eating my previous two DD
Welp, I got addicted to the game
It pulled me in, hook, line and sinker
Seriously, this game is amazing
I bought a Steam Deck just for Hades 2, the first game sold me (if you haven’t played that yet too)
Imagine doing a pumped up last gasps run with malice in kind though
Oh, I've played a lot of Hades I, also an amazing game
Well you made a great choice either way 😂
Oh I've been a fan of Supergiant Games's, uh, games since Transistor
Only game I haven't played in full is Pyre, and I intend to get to that eventually
I bought Hades 1 & 2 for Steam, Switch and PS5 and finished Bastion as well at some point.
Now for the fun part
ggs thanks again @torn wind
what is that
The next biome lol
Respectfully, and with all the love in my heart, you're not surviving this
YOu cans do it
i know
lol
What fear are you on
so what is the difference between 3 and couns
Oh ggs
idk anything about fear
Let's go champ
the 3 gets you to chronos one room faster, but the coins give you coins.
no fear yet
Ignore it 
alright
yoo, is the hades 2 zagreus journey mod good? like is there new dialogue, story, etc?
didnt even know there was a zag mod
The roman numerals count down till you see a hourglass looking thing, and that's the last shop before the big bad. @harsh bluff
The rooms that aren't roman numeral are optional extra stuff you might want, but it is an extra room to clear.
I've heard it's good, and no not really new dialog, and zag isn't in it, it's mel doing hades 1
yeh even supergiantgames themself shared it
wait what theres a mel mod for h1
Not yet
puts h1 maps and enemies into h2
with the h1 boons or h2 boons
i need to see how mel works with h1 arty boons
it's not h1 boons
i know
that would be hard to mod.
I want zag with zag weapons and boons in h2 maps.
what do you guys think?
idk lmao they modded the knight into silksong why not mel into h1
just go in?
yes
you're not there yet, and you have two death defiances... good luck
alrighrt
how did you get to chronos and not fill out your base boons like at all?
crazy
just attackin and thats it
That would be hard af
i wanna try
what do you mean
i don't use my special
so i don't really care
don't worry about it... but you have only an attack boon and sprint boon, no special cast or gain.
I would take aphro Spiritual affirmation couuld be good
axe special kinda good tho... probably not even using origination yet
exactly
there is an axe aspect where you basically only use omega special
might just be self healing
I like that there are actually a good chunk of Omegaless buiilds
i don't really lile omega
but yea
you're killing me smalls, just go buy your stuff and go in, you have the cash
Like its the main thing of the game but it doesnt lock you intoo it to have good fun runs
Once you unlock the uhm attack speed aspect for the axe it's gonna become your best friend 
You mean thantrash?
Idk I got through 40 surface easily with it
Yeah well it's really bad at max fear at that just makes it unplayable /j
Yeah || Nergal || is better but I cba playing that slow thing
Nergal ignores everything and only uses oattack btw
i'm conviced high fear and low fear players are different and the game is in fact very different.
Low fear? literally anything is viable up till like 62
Yea but still I like my normal attack speed fantasy
When people are saying that things are bad it's just relative to the best meta builds
Meta is whatever, nothing will convince me to try medea again after seeing how it plays, I value my wrists
you can remap buttons if you need to
you could play it The Mason Way: turn on auto fire, hold down special almost constantly, spam attack while trying to face toward enemies
my keybinds make the "roll your finger from attack into special" thing annoying so I just do this instead and it's worked for me, for my crackhead playstyle at least
I am in so much love with this new update. I’m so happy that Hypnos has more content. His new sprites are beautiful and his new mechanic is so cool. I’m so so so happy ough
same, I never gave up on ares through it all and my loyalty has paid off
and hypnos content is wonderful as well
honestly I could use another Ares buff... I want my god of war to be buffer than hera and zeus combined.
I DIED
wow
sadge
I dont like Medea a lot either
most do when they face chronos first time.
Alot of people first try typhon but i've never seen anyone beat chronos first try
Agreed
regular typhon is a victory lap
But it took me a few tries to get rivals typhon
nothing leveled up yet?? ack!
i can't level up any unless i unlock all of them iirc
🤔 is that right?
i might be wrong tho
I cant remember i have everything maxed for a long time lmfao
I don't think so... just need moondust
No, you just need Hecate to give you the Incantation
so keep giving her nectar?
Keep fighting her
ive fought her so many times
what do i choose here?
maybe its tooo little times lol
Everything its good ngl
surface is terrifying at 62+ fear, UW is a cakewalk in comparison
buuuut rivals chronos is worse than typhon
i focused on getting grasp up as soon as I could, and I focused on the reroll corner. But origination is a must. @harsh bluff
but the encounters on surface are awful
take off messenger and huntress, put on the two rerolls
location rewards and boons?
Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I didn't use lovers until I was also using strength
alrght
Yeah it lets you reroll them
they need it
it's only a single hit until they level it up
i wonder if i choose anything else other than apollo
eh prolly
Aphro its pretty good on the axe!
alright
zeus good on everything.
Also onion does a decent amount of healing , and skelly's tooth only worth taking if you think you need an extra DD that region.
but I almost only used god keepsakes for a build when i was early game, didn't touch the top or bottom rows often.
i took tooth to max it
i change to top on second and third region
you can take gods in the 2nd and 3rd region also
and 4th!
why?
but they are one use
you change to a different god
Yeah, but you can still swap them out
3-4 separate but deliberate god choices, especially with rerolls, can make a very cohesive build.
i got it
way too late
i shouldve paid attention to my couldron
what to upgrade first?
when I was going through early access I used to spam dd, lose them all on cerberus, take gorgon amulet and pray that athena had what I needed 😂
death and origination
from the wretched broker
or from charon's for Obol Points (the cards that you get by spending 1k gold on stuff in shops and what not)
Only normal attacks
guys i am one step closer to reaching the credits
i only need 3 more typhon clears and 2 more chronos clears
Lmao those Mel statues
ok im getting 2 great runs in a row
Yeahh soo gooodd
Homer reaction to the satues is almost better
32 24 i think
Thats rough, ty
wow Ares got reworked??! it feels pretty good now 
lowk thought we'd get to do the whole night with gigaros once i got it
Yeah i would have loved to play the Spear with mel
it already knda has an omega attack an omea special
Wait he got reworked? Since when
Mid April
Justa mild rework
What are the changes
Still good considering he's really weak for most builds
Legendary wasnt working a lot and Plasma was his whole personality
His legendary now buffs wounds a lot, grisly gain is now viable as a regen boon, profuse bleeding now drops a sword on a dude when you get blood drops
grisly now is flat 20% (still gets affected by succ rate), and pomming increases mana gained per plasma
no longer jpom dependent which is huge
He can stand on his own now not just henious affront
now if tranquil gain wasn't jpom dependent that'd be huge too
I need a Hades 3
Tranquil gain isn’t as bad as ya think
hades 3 would be cool but i really wanna just see a new ip lol
Tranquil gain its terally 100% per second at rare lmfao
Fair
It won’t work for p array but there’s plenty of chances to pause and refill
Or when you hit with wounds
im so excited for the jeweled pom ngl
yes true
Its broken
which is why i want it
i need 2 more typhon clears and 1 more chronos clear to reach the credits
Jpom does remove a lot of strategy in favor of random fun
yes
part of the fun is making it work
there is still the fact that u need to know which boons are the good ones to pick up
it also does shift a lot in what boons are good especially with ones with crazy pom scaling
like hereditary bane rarity only increases it by 5% but each pom is a flat +10% which is insane
pyro tech practically triples in effectiveness
jpom rapture ring my beloved 🫀
chat im getting closerrr
i finally got desintegration of monstrosity
2 more runs and its over
Jpom makes heph great too
poseidon and hera have been saving my builds fr
aspect of shiva poseidon attack hera special
ares dash and hestia cast
👀
just when it's over, you get a whole bunch of things that make it fun to keep playing
what.
you going to put poseidon on shiva's attack when the whole point of shiva is to have high percentage?
how does shiva handle posidon waves?
I mean
It works
Its not a slow normal attack combo and since the normal attack does decent damage already its not bad
I wouldnt call it idea though
Hera special its decent though
I prefer Apollo or Aprho
using shiva's base attack is like using any of the other cloaks base attack... so why mention shiva?
honestly i haven't used shiva much personally
grave thirst hasn't chosen cloak much for me like the last 20 runs maybe once.
It has a slightly slower but tankier attack
THat i remember
Ares is
It could work
Because Wounds works with Destructive stacks
Since it takes a whle to charge up
initial wounds gets shiva boosted?
Yep
You just gotta be careful to not waste it on normal attack
Especially once you get the Legendary
- slow cooker
Oattack shiva 🥀
i dont think so,,,
no why would it lol
isn't the oattack the whole point?
at high fear its omegas become terrible
sounds like it would just be bad in general then?
its coat so its still strong
but it just needs different builds than the regular 3 and avoids its omegas like the plague since its so expensive for so little payoff
which is also why apollo is the standard take, the final hit of the attack combo has 140 power to work with lol
heh knew it
Hey everyone! I finished Hades I on PS5 today (it was awesome). Now I'm itching to play Hades II, also on PS5. But I was wondering if there will be a physical version, as I'm quite keen on being able to collect such great games in my library, or if there will only be a digital version (forever) and therefore I won't have to wait.
They've stated that they have no plans for a physical ps5 or xbox version right now, it could happen in the future but for now I think it's best to assume there won't be one.
When I tried shiva the oattack felt like it had no aoe at all
Does it only get decent aoe with Apollo?
You've gotta dash chain it while the hitbox is active or hope that the enemies are close enough together
takes alot of skill
or you just do the normal thing of play like it doesnt exist lol
Does the power boost from hell splitter still apply to the axe's dash attack?
no
You ever start a run aiming for knuckle bones circe dialog but you don’t want to throw it so you just keep going
not a good hammer
avoid
It's not awful, but you really need to see at least two sources of attack speed before you can click it
its pretty bad
like no frenzy low fear you can get away with it
but third strikes leave you way open for damage esp frenzy 2. thats why all the axe builds are omega psychic whirlwind/furious, charon omega spam, and mel axe dashing heave
when you play mel axe if you don't get dashing heave the next best thing is rapid hack and nimble limbs better rarity and avoid the third hit
but for high fear mel axe its dashing heave 👍
Man prometheus has still not mentioned dora a second time, I'm multiple runs past finding the ||fates||| wtf
Anybody know if I can run an olympus trial to get more odds at him mentioning her, can character stories be progressed in a trial?
Does Fate’s Whim stay active if you put on Selene’s keepsake?
I would think so since she’s not an Olympian, just wanna confirm
Yep, her keepsake is safe to take
Excellent, thank you so much!
Should be possible
Can someone help me
I just got an heroic boon for no reason at all
It's my first time
It was probably the scripted Heroic Sea Star
Yeah it was added recently
What triggers Narcissus to meet Echo?
Does Nemesis have to visit Echo’s area for Narcissus to meet Echo?
I entered Narcissus room just now and his dialogue is silent. He’s not complaining about murky waters anymore.
The wha
I swear after the latest patch half the time I return to the crossroads moros wants to get freaky
bro needs to relax
Same lol I usually just ignore him (not Eris though)
of course, can't ignore eris
PSA: don't mix Island Getaway with Aphro legendary if you have Glamour Gain
Weak will only apply once so you won't get the repeated benefits
circe really said bring the bones a second time
It does indeed work
my file with eris 😳
we ALL love eris
We all love babe
easy boss and gives some luvin
shes fine in my book
not clingey like moros either
to me it's nemesis
she wants it bad, shows up literally all the time wanting to go at it
Speak for yerself, bubsy :P
If I'd have to pick a relationship, I'd pick Moros, but I draw the line at straight relationships. I'm sorry Mel, you're ace now
(I am also ace too, so samesieeeees!
)
I wanna do another save where I decline everyone
sigma grindset mel
Her true love is, according to Homer (the most reliable narrator), the discus throw.
Love how Homer deadass says she didnt win the game but won everyones hearts
just got 150 max hp boost from one location in the city, double heart plus two single hearts from side-rooms plus two extra hearts from sea star 🤩
have another
BOUNDLESS RICHES!
getting sea star on a mega heart is such a great feeling
If you remain with one romance, can you romance other characters?
yes
Real
So it's not just choose one but you're locked out of the rest?
you can choose to do them all
These are deathless gods it's chill
You choose to allow or deny each relationship to become romantic
Nothing else determines which ones go either way
Persephone skull makes absolutely no sense 
how so
it has 2 passives.
- free extra levels on boons
- When you deal olympian damage(usually damage that has a different color) your next Omega special will last +2 seconds longer.
Thank you!
Up to 2 seconds longer when you do enough olympian damage*
Very strong
Also the free poms, I believe it can roll up to +6? Someone correct me if im wrong
2~4 most of the time if it even come with extra level
Thats still good, just for using the weapon
There is something like 50% chance for no extra pom iirc
It stacks with jeweled?
yes
Thansks
You know what would be cool an endless mod for the game where you just need to survive for as many levels as possible but it also lets you plsy as other characters
Like in resident evil with mercury
Like you could play as Odysseus and nemesis and stuff
Hades is even already programmed to be playbel in a flash back
Never been a fan of endless myself, i dont see the appeal
I know hades 1 had a mod for it
yea ive never seen any game have a good endless mode
Risk of rain 2 is the best contender imo, and I still dislike looping
I just want to be able to play as other characters
And you can have cool stuff like Odysseus actually get debuffs from possidon but has a bigger chance to get help from Athena
And hades could like summon red dogy to help him
the one the game is named after
One would say so
sadly i toook death defy
we here again
i prolly won't win
but oh well
I died
i can go up now
i wonder if i should
Yes
alright
Who's gon stop you
you
How could I
this is me currently
just 8 is way too little prolly
i think psych still better yea
Moondust is used for far more things imo, having full grasp is nice, but like, if your cards are tier 1, full grasp doesnt matter much
The moondust grind is real
Is this an upgraded staff? like Circe and evolve mel? or just naked staff?
prolly just naked
im like new ngl
Probably a lvl 1 mel
Well pick up special and try to find the hammer than make your special bounce and shot 2 specials at close range
alright i will try
Shimmering isn't that great
On staff anyway
last round i went into chronos with blitz
blitz attack
quite good
btw why am i losing health?
yeah, but its early on so it doesnt matter much.
picked up a Chaos gate?
You need to dash to iframe it
Yeah it's always like that
Oh its the surffice
Melinoe is cursed, bound to the underworld, she cant walk the surface
As you should
make sense
true and factual
so i should speed blitz it?
Yes
Until you get the spell that helps with it
what is the difference between bathsalts and nectar
One is for the bath, the other is for regular gifting
oh right
If you check the items in your inventory it gives you a description
reasons why games shouldnt have scent
lol
have you guys ever used your omega casts?
ye
From time to time yes, depending weapon, builds etc
i complete forget that it has an omega
what is an omega cast lol
exactly
A cast thats omega
Skull is goat
Idk how did i died
Me neither
i had 30 hp and just cleared the floor
maybe i run into one of the structural enemies
Maybe you died to fate
maybe
can someone answer my question at #fan-works ?
better to just google it lol
I'll sometimes place one down if I either need to activate huntress or I'm waiting for a wave of enemies and I don't particularly like my weapon's omegas
Yeah p much just for Huntress especially when I have auto-fire on like on Mel Coat
Also on circe early game I like ocasting, it's one of the better ways of dealing with tankier enemies before the build comes together
VoR typhon makes everything annoying about it more annoying but its lowkey way more fun
Except the mithrix pizza ass final phase
damn i never made that correlation but its pretty similar huh
Wait what mithrix pizza, what attack are you talking about, dont slander the king of nothing like that
Apollo buffed zeus casts are funny
The whole wait around and dodge last phase
Its basically mithrix pizza
Its not about it being hard its more how bad it feels to do
Cause you’re not actually fighting you just hope you dont get your ass beat
Yeah I know i agree, its annoying
Tbf tho its completely fine for bosses to have dodge phases
But idk something about the way they did doesnt feel good
Is it just me and my luck or are chaos boons less useful than any normal boons you could get?
It depends on what gets offered
100% attack damage increase is quite a big deal if youre doing attack build
It’s never been close to 100 for me
I too find them mostly meh. But the plus damage ones are ok if you get them.
Why i said it depends son what gets offered
I kinda feel like it's mostly +30% which is good but
Like when you don't know what will you get it's like for some of the boons the curse is just too costly to take
The number of nice runs that eneded because I took something good on the cost of stuns, and then some fight just stunlocked me for all my life, or I couldn't use my attack on a boss
That's a tough way to learn
But then most of the boons are like +mana, or +mana regen, or +speed which are all not worth the risk for me
whats the best way to get the arachne armour to chronos
not getting damaged
Hera/Demeter keepsake start, hope to get the other one naturally for, Hephaestus keepsake next, hope for Cherished Heirloom, hopefully while you have Silken Sash already equipped for even more extra armor
But that's probably unnecessary it's just what I did to try to get the most armor possible to Chronos for a challenge lol, probably just take Silken Sash the whole time
i just went into a normal run and i have 211 armour going into tart
I’m on Night 40.
I have all the Nightmares that I need for upgrades.
What did you end up getting again? 😂
Think we got to like 450+ or smth right?
Something like 314, Tia got 550+
Jfc 😂
i had 533 if you include temporary heph armour
I guess it was worth keeping Silken sash equipped from Oceanus onwards
the heph bonus damage from armour is so free if you just dont lose ot
Ye Heavy Metal’s fun
i had all the heph armour
trusty shield is really helpful for keeping the armour up
the funniest thing was jpom gave me life tax
who needs healing when you have 500 armour
is boon not guaranteed in the surface?
like at the start? you either get a hammer, selene, or a boon
ahh alright
The selene is the worst by far
bruh i just die on the surface
On higher fear its a cursed start
idk how to survive
i think you need some kind of incantation
how do i grind chaos?
like get more chaos
i guess i could intentionally die and reset
sometimes theres items in the wells that give you a chaos room
yea
i rerolled it and it didn't come
do i always get origin seeds now
?
now that i died in the surface
What the hell
Someone simultaneously cleared both surface and underworld at 50 fear
That someone is in here ^^
dayumn
Once Chaos gives you some from dialogue, you'll be able to find gathering points in their rooms
oh alright
@heady socket
Oh I didn't know they were in this discord
hi
yeah i didn't expect that many people to view the video, maybe i should have put some more effort into/commentary or something
i'm still getting the youtube notifications for it...
if i can find two friends to borrow laptops from i'll try to do three at once. i'd like to do four but then i'd need to borrow a lot more things
and if i do that, i'll try to have commentary for it
gotta be h1 underworld, h2 underworld, and h2 surface for the next vid
you gonna use your feet for the third computer?
that is amazing you pulled that off tho 
yea ig so
just found out its not a very good idea to ||fight zag|| in the first region
lol
wdym, more free stuff
what do you think i did 
given you died, not that?
id block myself too
well, at least ive learned smth
now thats a win
i've set myself a challenge rn
i wont stop playing until i get either the jpom or the time piece
and i got the jpom
bro the jpom is so fire
yall member the hades 1 reroll and keepsake meta
i wonder if an "only one element" run would be interesting. like you cant take any element besides earth. would that even be hard
having greatest gift of gaia + the incantation that random gives you elements for harvesting resources would definitely throw a wrench in that plan
Pressure cooker moment
The simple fact that you can’t refuse a boon would make it not really possible
yeah :/
i was thinking maybe you just take fewer boons, i know boonless in hades 1 is possible, idk if hades 2 forces more boons on you
Boonless h2 is actually easier
so it would just be a slightly lamer version of a boonless run xD
H1 r4 you could be forced to take boons after the last guaranteed purging pool
Tart avoids that here. Summit could still force you tho
i love starting athena everytime because she was just the strongest god because of 1 boon
I don't get why Athena's keepsake has this weird requirement now, makes her again a god of one boon
I mean, yeah? Those boons are also run-defining
Cos if you have no dd left you sure as hell going to pick reflective dash
And are even sometimes worth breaking Fate's Whim to get them
its not even that good in this game
No, there's plenty of other options. Like her full DD refill
Or "Literally just Stubborn Defiance"
I once took reflective special on the Skull and it was sad
Well yeah, Phalanx Shot is the worst thing she has
Cos Mel launched forward with the speed of light, and the reflective shield just kinda lagged behind and never reflected a thing
And I was left with no dd, so I just lost the run alltogether
Deflect cast seems good
Divine dash wasn’t even OP in 1 it was just very comfy and fit in nearly any build
I gotta say, I picked her other boons just for the quest, and my eyes are trained to only pick the two with death defiance
Mental Block is great, Divine Dash is still good, Righteous Pike is great for MP-heavy runs, the DD refill is run-saving, Task Force is funny, Stalwart Stand is great if you're not using MP, Defensive Posture is alright for survivability
Phalanx Shot exists
it was insanely op
lol
And it's not only dd refill, it gives you additional 20% HP for each
I’d go splash dash first most of the time. Breaker rush just ain’t the same
i have officially got more playtime in h2 than in h1 now
Defensive posture is kinda clutch learning rivals Typhon
H1 divine dash was some bell curve shi
divine dash with merciful end
If you’re bad you love the crutch, if you’re really good and doing high heat you need the safety
Anywhere in the middle you’re much better off with splash dash
Unless ME
i miss athena being a full boon god
I do not, as my username here may suggest
my fav h1 build was athena based
pos sword with athena/zeus duo cast
athenas call was mid when you had hades call
Phalanx pos was fun yeah until your casts fly off into lava 😭
that was the worst
also should i post a possible bugged enemy location in tech support
or is that more for getting help with fixable issues
What was the bug
a tartarus enemy ended up off the map so far away nothing could hit it
like you can barely see it in the screenshot
I’ve knocked an enemy off the map in erebus before like that
Time to try great chaos
Wards2 shiva
I’m crine
And denial
Oh I’m blind it’s mel coat
I experienced something on a video that I never experienced in my playthrough
|| Eris can give you a curse in Oceanus if you perform well in the run, what does the curse do?||
Increases the damage you receive ever encounter
ha sounds like torture
It's early enough in the game that you're not using fear anyway so it's still free, you can also avoid it by being at a low enough health
||does prometheus dodge thing work on your hex attack like the moon beam?||
No, just omegas
ah ok thanks
||so zagreus can show up in almost any area, which weapons are easiest and hardest to beat him with no boons?||
He has a 40% chance to show up in any midshop, staff is easiest, coat and axe would be hardest
I never fight him but I bet coat would be really easy with special spam
They said boonless so just low base damage
ye, basically only regions with midshop
are the arcana for great chaos trials fixed?
Or does it just love giving me the unseen for funni
What does the infinity symbol mean when looking at relationship bonds with certain characters? Some have it and some don’t even though the bond is maxed out for each.
I think that's letting you still gift them stuff like Lures and Bath Salts despite their relationship no longer requiring them to progress?
Correct
chat how do I get the new stuff from the new patch I js got to the epilogue again after the reset
Wake up hypnos
done and 3fates also done
Was gonna gonna complain about great chaos above giving me toula plus strength for two attempts in a row
But this time it was toula and no strength or death
Should be a new piece of furniture in the training area after you wake him up and get a few more random dialogs about him
Hurray, I’m going to reach Epilogue on Night 41.
I have enough Nightmares to upgrade all of my weapons. I need one more Underworld run to unlock hidden Staff aspect.
I’m almost done leveling up all of my keep sakes. Maybe they’ll be fully leveled up by around night 45.
thats amazing
That’s a low night count, you must have planned this well
from who?
the dialog
I don’t remember exactly what triggered it showing up. Ik that Hades and Nyx talk about him sometimes
ahh I'll js run a few nights lets see what happens thanks
A lot of Sea Stars and Buried Treasures. All of my runs had them.
and how do I get the heracles stuff
dio party?
I dunno what the Heracles stuff is I guess
Is there a convenient way to see what aspects I’ve gotten clears with?
There's something you can unlock
Why didn’t I think of the record keeper rip
Lmao
i think we switch
after a few poms its gonna turn into 3 or 2 seconds
then we profit from a lot of damage
i guess i don't really use my flourish
ill try it
hmmmmm
nah its alright i guess... no point picking a boon i don't need
ill get shield
if it was strike i would snap pick it
has anyone ever had the chaos blessing "will" be taken away somehow? Like I got it as my second boon and then once I'd cleared the curse and the blessing started working I forgot about it until the boss fight(Polyphemus) where I didn't have any mana regen and now when I look at my boons, it's nowhere to be seen.
did you have chaos embryo as your keepsake
i had jeweled pom
my god... why'd i take the echo keepsake... thing has screwed me over more times than it has helped....
So this is my first time taking the post-buff Nyx Coat for a spin, and good gods is it juiced
Like, I knew it was good from other people's testimonies, but I hadn't realized it was this good
NYX GOT A BUFF? WHEN
Born gain double hubris bad idea?
Nah hubris is still free
Alright
Well that is good news!
They may be talking about the coat buffs back in EA
(Btw hello you, been a long time!)
Nah, the old buff in Unseen that made Nightspawn proc effects
It had been that long since I touched it
chat what do i get to do with the ||shiny stars from hypnos dream dive||
Decorations
1 run gives 10 right?
the fire combination
you can dash
dash to dodge the flames
yes but i wasn’t confident in the timing
you can do it i believe in you
hmm like down to up?
i’ll try
i unlocked a lot
that was basically my first non cursed surface game
You can pause and write it down
But what most people do is just say it out loud
Can Bearing Dark Gifts prophecy be finished in sleep with Hyonos?
i’ll try lol
great question lmao idk tho i finished it before the dream dive was a thing
It says "Shall prevail against either of her ultimate adversaries using each and every Aspect"
Imma try anyway
Doubt tho
I'd assume so, but with the caveat that you still have to win a run
Daem a Dream Dive threw me straight on summit and I already lost 2 defiances right in the first chamber
yesterday, I had a dream dive start with Summit and follow it up with Tartarus 
Tough one
alright so no then
isnt the 1st region the shades are considerably less tankier and easy to beat
i was actually feeling floaty asl cause the shades in fields were going down so quick
Not really
it's all scaled but olympus is still terrible to start
i see i see ig fields is easy
fields is the easily the best start yea
At high fear you're rolling for Fields, or Thessaly/Oceanus back ups, you're screwed otherwise
so its 50/50 you're not going back to salute
I was taking random aspects (non axe) and doing 62 dives yesterday
got hel and supay
per request of the discord channel
at least Hel is pretty good but Supay was stupid hard even with a good start including epic breaker rush and rare flame strike and melting helix
theres a 62 Supay dive on cross roads but its Vang who is amazing at Supay and stupid good in general
only one 67f clear by raj lol maniacs
why is fields such a good start
lot of boons
Enemies and boss are not too hard and you are likely to get 2+ boons plus free minor rewards for Artificer
in high fear dream dives, fields & oceanus are basically the only two regions u can start with where u can actually comfortably get a good build going
Good Typhon fights are lowk hella unsatisfying because of the no health bar lol.
or boons from artificer or even hammers if lucky
and rivals cerb isn't bad if you have like half your build set and know how to use the aspect
i've won in thessaly off artificer and good... wheels?
thessaly is definitely annoying but has an easy rivals boss
yea thessaly is fine just swingy
i actually have quite a few 62 clears but 3 started in fields
its the best
mel staffx2, circe, mel skulls, persephone, mel coat
i lost my 50f nergal surface one hit away from victory
typhons chin slam has a weird hitbox
Good boons and multiple rewards per "room"
Erebus is a bad start because you just get less to work with
and because cerb is a lot less oppressive compared to other rivals or just normal bosses
r1 cant be start
Erebus suuuuuuuucks
God I love ephyra
who doesnt love a good buffet 
Fields is still a bit easier
chaos
Other than chaos boons
any god that isnt relevant to your build, or you already got what you need from them
Selene is 500/300
I love purging the first moon and then buying it from shop for 180
I don't purge at all tho if I have good money
Chaos selene or god boons you don’t need
Honestly I never purge god boons unless they would force me to sacrifice due to denial
I've definitely purged a forced Ares miniboss in Thessaly before
Or if I absolutely can’t afford hubris magick loss I suppose
That’s fair I guess if you REALLY don’t want the god but that’s pretty rare
I’m just saying telling people to “purge god boons” isn’t especially accurate
Cause like you’ll get more gold than you ever need by just purging Poms, tonics and minor rewards
Unless you’re playing on debt 2 just purging 4 minor rewards in region 2 gives you more money than you’ll probably spend on boons at every shop after
i'm an ares fan so even if its not great for my build i get him but i have purged lots of other boons before specially aphro
😐
HAHA YES!
Wow, I missed the fun part where the mods banish
gifs are not allowed for anyone
it has been years since the last time i saw an embed in this channel 👴
also great edit lmao
that is a full on image. not even an embed this is the REAL thing
envy fills me
hi
i want to unlock nergal, i maxed out charon's axe, do i need to talk to charon with the axe equipped or is just chance based?
just chance based
you need to have unlocked aspect of thanatos too by the way
yeah i have all non hidden aspects unlocked and both melinoe axe and charon's axe maxed out
ty
For most aspects rank is fairly important, some not as much. You can see what each rank improves
yea like aspect of circe does not need max rank for it to shine
Eris just called Raki ugly..
raki never catches a break
so circe is ok at rank 1?
if i play staff special omegas... i prioritise percentage specials right?
like apollo
Yeah, the main draw of Circe is the double cast, not the leash
Yall i genuinely ran through every single piece of medea dialogue and i cant get the hypnos quest one is my file locked out of it?💀
No?
As far as i know ||after the firat time you enter the dream you get the second part of the spell from medea no?||
Can anybody tell me if 32 heat or 32 fear in underworld route is harder?
32 fear general considered easier than h1 32 heat
Each other
Yeah I misunderstood
Your good
Thanks
After progressing through the game more yeah, doesn't happen right away
oh yea true
is there a certain pet that works best with circe?
Still one of the strongest aspects
Raki and gale
do i care about ice flourish over my current?
i basically trying to play around my omega spec
I'm very biased towards having Hitch sources
i think my origination needs me to have 2 sources of curse
so it feels dumb to go all in on freeze
im waiting for fire for my attack
or like poseidon
alright then
ill prime some magic
forage is pretty pitiful
Nvm turns out shes greedy she wanted two nectars not one
Shouldn't you be gifting her 2 Nectar anyways for her reward list prophecy?
What are the best gods now
I kinda do them one by one
Like i will fully gift someone and after that start with another one
Hera and Zeus, as always
Hestia, Ares, and Hephaestus are all in a dead heat for third
Awww maybe adultery isnt so bad
You will continue to run into these sort of issues if you keep doing that just fyi
Lots of stuff is gated by relationship progress
Alright will try to do more gifting
And since most bonds (maxed relationship) are gated by small tasks or story progress anyway, rushing one at a time early on prob doesn’t even do much for you
the game kinda wants you to slowly work on everything instead of rushing specific things
mostly since you can only talk to characters once per run
what would be the optimal dream dive order if you wanted the quickest regions
not based on getting a build
Fields, Summit, Tartarus, and Ephyra, I'd assume?
wait can you get ephyra as the last region?
Yep
dang, I've never had that
eh kinda a weird question since good build = goes fast
i just realised how quick early summit is even though you cant get a good build going so i wondered if there was an order for speed
fields -> ephyra -> erebus -> thessaly is the high fear order since you get a massive build and timer becomes a non issue, only problem with going like fields -> summit -> tart means you have like actually nothing to work with unless you get lucky in fields or take tart side rooms which is a bit against the idea
regardless speed comes from a strong build so fields -> ephyra would be necessary id assume
but you also wanna dodge r4 bosses since they take forever, same with olympus
and an r4 erebus is evil because hecate gets 9x hp lmao
i wish they added appendixes to the game
like a collectible or a material or something
i wanna see an appendix in supergiants artstyle
i could see fields -> ephyra -> oceanus -> tart??
since first 2 give you a build fast, oceanus with skips is stupid fast, and wantler tart is also kinda a joke
you just never want to see olympus, ever
whats the nightmare order
Olympus final region
It’s not as bad as it was before to get tart or summit since the end shop is more heavily weighted to give boons now
Tartarus, Thessaly, Erebus, Olympus
r3 hecate followed by r4 promacles is... definitely an experience
Lvl 19 flutter strike + mirrored thrasher + secret crush + lvl 4 glamor gain + island getaway lmao
But no nervous wreck RIP
Hi, is there any 'trick' to getting the 'Last Gasp' blessing from Hades? I'm on night 100 and don't have it yet. I really like running Strength. But the requirement is to take the Death card when running the Underworld route, and cross your fingers when you meet Hades, right?
I think if you use jpom you can get it? could be wrong though, I've never used Death + jpom
but yeah I don't think there's any hades blessing you can't get with jpom
Does getting them via jpom cross them off his prophecy list?
I finished it long before getting the pom
no clue either haha
I wonder if you have to get it from Hades once before you can use the jpom. I'll keep trying (both ways) - I have the jpom as my default keepsake, that gives a double chance. 👍
They’re really gonna make me pick between soul filled ankh and dual moonshot
What's the former do? More damage on the OAttack?
5 flat to attacks and wider radius
Oh
I got an epic chaos strike boon so I’m gonna lean into it
In general the attack hammers are probably the best for Anubis anyway, though Ospec builds are fun
Turn that 5 into 9 😎
Attack is way more efficient
you cant get ephyra or erebus as first region, aside from that anything else is possible
does discordant bell last even when you take it off
The accumulated stacks will, but it won't keep ticking up
Two trips to the crossroads in a row where I wasn’t allowed to gift anyone 🤨
Oh, I think because I had “time passes” events within the run both times
What’s better?
Ares Attack/Special + Grievous Blow
Or Apollo Legendary
On an omega build with Hera as the main damage.
Apollo Legendary requires 4 boons compared to Ares 2 boons. Or Zeus 1 boon for Blitz.
Can't say without knowing the aspect
Run death defy and hope
But if it's just "strongest" then it's gonna be Exceptional Talent
how much do i have to spend at Hermes shrines ... shocked I havent spent enough yet

whoever opened my eyes on how good born gain is, thank you
Convincing my friend who misses the rail to keep playing this game because the rail is in it
And it’s not even a lie technically
I suppose Aspect of ||Hel|| counts as the spiritual sucessor of the Rail
Ohhhh, right, right 


