h2-discussion

[cunning laurel]

yea youll want to up it after a few wins

[brave gate]

Nah I like doing chill runs while listening to YouTube. Besides, I can always change around what vows I use to get to 32

[craggy totem]

You gonna try a no Rivals anytime ;P

[brave gate]

Also, a lot of aspects I rarely use because I don’t wanna use them at higher fear

[brave gate]

No that’s so boring at this point 😭

Also discovered the other day that beating ||Zagreus|| doesn’t give you free items at mid shops? Thats bogus

[tranquil wren]

yep, only end shops

sad times

[craggy totem]

Spoiler tag perhaps

[brave gate]

Makes fighting him with Frenzy 2 on so worthless

No worth the risk at all

[craggy totem]

||He doesn't want to spoil his little sister too much ;D||

[brave gate]

I mean isn’t it Charon who’s giving the discount the contract? 🤔

I think it would be cool if ||Zagreus|| had his own set of boons you choose from.

And they could all be references to Hades 1 stuff

[craggy totem]

Naw naw it's like getting someone a gift card 😂

[brave gate]

Wish the red shade watched the fight 😞

[craggy totem]

You buy the gift card from the shop and give it to someone else 🤣

[jolly hound]

two dashes lol

[brave gate]

Tru

Or your cast is thrown out like a crystal (howling soul but better)

[jolly hound]

That fight is worth it if you’re in Thessaly, timer is making you sweat, and the next room is a regular boat. Otherwise meh

[still mantle]

I just deleted ||zag||

[craggy totem]

Spoiler tags, yall

[jolly hound]

He doesn’t have much health he just hits really hard

[still mantle]

And then preceded to delete Eris as well

[craggy totem]

Although going into it blind for the first time and seeing the ||Death Defiance usage|| is really funny

[still mantle]

He should have 3

[brave gate]

That’s why he’s super hard on frenzy 2. Hardest frenzy 2 boss difficulty increase for me

[errant crow]

I just opened up 6 boons in a row where I was missing only an attack boon, and all 6 didn't offer an attack boon, only a sprint swap

what the actual f

[abstract aspen]

just did a 16 fear !

[errant crow]

how is this possible

[abstract aspen]

with staff

[errant crow]

what even are the odds of this

[abstract aspen]

spamming all buttons is good, you have to try

[brave gate]

Nice! What vows?

[craggy totem]

Low but not impossible. Apparently if you already have an attack or special boon, the game basically goes "ok we all good now you can deal with it lmao"

[still mantle]

Kinda funny that the first time I ever phase skipped typhon was with supay

[abstract aspen]

time 3 / menace 2 / frenzy 2 / hubis 1
https://imgur.com/a/JtVGFgW
@errant crow here the boons I had, I was invincible with the healthy rebound, onion and health of hades

[errant crow]

I thought it was insane after 3x and then it happened 3x more, if it happens a 7th time I'm cursed

[errant crow]

I was talking about this boon luck, not your run homie

[abstract aspen]

oh

[full wing]

ANUBIS SUCKS

[errant crow]

I'll never know because it wont let me have an attack

[viscid notch]

Hello, I have beaten surface and underworld with the required amount of fear (16 / 12 ) , but the Mercy, Night's Executioner - Earn the second Gift of the Veil is not unlocked.

I believe the bug triggered because I've given a bottle of Ambrosia to Schelemeus instead of talking to him first. Is this a known bug ?

[crude dragon]

Incorrect

[brave gate]

Nice 😎

If you want some easy ones to add from there try Shadows and Debt1

[abstract aspen]

surface is 12 and underworld 16, have you done it this way ?

[abstract aspen]

I'll try this next thanks

[viscid notch]

yes

[abstract aspen]

don't know sorry

[viscid notch]

yes, the next tier of requirements 24 / 32 appears, but the second tier statue is still covered

[full wing]

Correct

[crude dragon]

Nuh uh

[full wing]

Yu uh

[abstract aspen]

try save quitting and retalk

[crude dragon]

(No, but seriously, Anubis is quite good, you're probably just building and playing it wrong)

[viscid notch]

I did already

[full wing]

It deals no damage!!!

[abstract aspen]

my competence stop here

[crude dragon]

My brother in Christ, the Attack is a DoT field that deals damage to everything in it for about 10 seconds

Play to that, grab Poseidon splashes or Scorch

[brave gate]

just do another run and you'll probably get the dialogue then

[errant crow]

this isn't real

it just happened a 7th time

[crude dragon]

Also, the Special does a decent chunk of damage and can yank enemies around, toss on something like Apollo or Hitch on it

[still mantle]

Is there something wrong with you?

[crude dragon]

Genuine chance that dude's spamming the attack like it's normal staff

[full wing]

yes

I'm doing that

[errant crow]

yeah you dont want to do that

[crude dragon]

Don't

[full wing]

It makes me a sitting duck.

[still mantle]

STU-

[still mantle]

Do it once.

Then spam specials

[crude dragon]

First of all, you always want to be Dash-Striking with Anubis. Second, you don't spam it, because it's a lingering field

[errant crow]

so my anubis sucks for an entirely different reason and somehow with ONLY ATTACK OPEN 7 boons in a row offered me a sacrificed sprint instead of an attack

i have never seen anything like this

[crude dragon]

Jpom moment?

[errant crow]

is this a thing?

[brave gate]

Someone pick surface or underworld for my mel blades run

[errant crow]

im def jpom but literally any attack id take at this point

[crude dragon]

Getting completely screwed over by RNG despite having a core open? Yeah

[still mantle]

Underworld

[errant crow]

7x in a row not even seeing any attack though? seems a bit crazy

[crude dragon]

You plant down the Attack like it's a Cast and spam Specials to pull enemies in

[full wing]

You guys use casts?

[craggy totem]

The ABCs: always be casting

[crude dragon]

Mods, spin this man around a bunch and make him really dizzy

[errant crow]

just be careful of his helmet

[crude dragon]

[full wing]

[flat glacier]

hmm?

[vague bear]

[full wing]

How does spamming special help me with bosses

you don't move bosses.

[errant crow]

damage?

[crude dragon]

It's still high damage?

[flat glacier]

sorry, what needs mod attention?

[errant crow]

doesnt really need mod attention, more a psych eval

[flat glacier]

i'm not qualified for that 😔

[full wing]

Sparrow, tell 'em!

Casts aren't that good.

[crude dragon]

Anubis Omega Special still deals pretty respectable damage, and is quick to spam out

[full wing]

Why cast when I can cleave the enemies in half with attacks

[crude dragon]

Yes, they are. To the point that both cast aspects (Circe and Charon) are top 5 weapons

[still mantle]

I will send a drone strike to your house

CIRCE

[brave gate]

Lowkey I wish that when you took Aphrodite attack, special, or gain that a faint circle would appear around Mel to show you was is consdiered "nearby"

[still mantle]

CHARON

PAN

[crude dragon]

Because you could root them in place and get 30% global damage while doing that?

[abstract aspen]

calm down my friend

[brave gate]

Objectivley wrong

[still mantle]

Yeah

[crude dragon]

Pan is pretty buns, though

[still mantle]

Still uses casts well

[crude dragon]

I will leave half a watermelon on your doorstep

[still mantle]

Use charon, then you can cast and cleave at the same time

[errant crow]

okay we're back (sorta) got an attack boon on my 8th boon roll with only attack slot open on anubis and it's demeter's so w/e

[full wing]

No, don't do that

[errant crow]

still seems bad but

[full wing]

Leave a pomenegrade instead, at least i'll be able to upgrade.

[crude dragon]

No.

[still mantle]

"And unseen is the best arcana"

[still mantle]

"And discordant bell is a mainstay"

[full wing]

What's wrong with unseen

Anyway no best arcana is centaur

[still mantle]

Everybody jump this guy

[still mantle]

Do it

[crude dragon]

Waste of Grasp when you could just get a mana regen boon

[still mantle]

"And origination sucks"

[viscid notch]

it did unlock after a chaos run, thanks

[brave gate]

Np 👍

[crude dragon]

Plus if you want 5-Grasp cards for Queen, Origination and Boatman exist and are strictly better

Boatman is a guaranteed shop boon even with Vow of Debt cranked all the way up

[still mantle]

Even excellence is better

[crude dragon]

Origination is 50% global damage for something you should be doing anyways

[craggy totem]

TBF there are some curses I wouldn't bother going out of my way to take if Origination didn't exist

[still mantle]

I think we silenced him....

[still mantle]

Get a load of this

[crude dragon]

I mean, Centaur is very nice, but it's also just something of a given

[still mantle]

Yeah

Like, your almost always gonna have it active

[brave gate]

I had Circe level up my Lovers to rank 4 yesterday

That was cool

[still mantle]

Whats the best way to use nergal

Do i just hit things

Or is there a specific setup i want

[brave gate]

I like either Apollo or Hera on attack and then Demeter on cast or special.

Demeter preferably on cast. Ares is nice on special espeical if you get Grievous Blow

[still mantle]

Why Demeter?

[brave gate]

Demeter cast is always good but even more so on Nergal cause of the slower attacks

[still mantle]

Hmm

[brave gate]

She also has Weed Killer

[gentle totem]

What’s up, fellas. I’m new to Hades 2. Pretty good game ngl.

[crude dragon]

Did you play the first game, or are you completely new?

[gentle totem]

Completely new

[crude dragon]

Try the first game first

[gentle totem]

I watched some guy I know play the first Hades when it came out but I still know basically nothing about it

[gentle totem]

Well I already started playing the second one lol

[errant crow]

how do I get beach ball to be good

[crude dragon]

Well, you could stop

[buoyant matrix]

get a bunch of global damage boosts

[gentle totem]

Hmm perhaps!

[still mantle]

I mean, its just free damage

No reason to build around it

[still mantle]

Oh right

[buoyant matrix]

fresh file does that actually

[errant crow]

I've seen a bunch of places where ppl were actually talking about it being more of a focus but I don't know if it's been nerfed or what

[still mantle]

Idk, supay?

Since your dashing around constantly

[buoyant matrix]

yeah that was most likely a fresh file conversation

but beach ball is good by itself

dashing and running around is something you should already be doing anyway

[still mantle]

Random debate: who do yall think is the best and worst god to piss off?

Demeter still is really not great

[errant crow]

demeter seems to consistently do damage ot me

[still mantle]

Yeah, it's not as bad as h1 but it's bad

[buoyant matrix]

best is hestia because like, just dodge lol
worst is ares and hephaestus because they're ridiculously fast

[still mantle]

Poseidon really fell from "grace"

Im h1 it was this annoying ass wave

Now its a water bubble that moves slower than my arthritic aunt

[still mantle]

I don't think I've tried heph

[final saddle]

Best: Poseidon, Heph, Demeter if it’s a big room
Worst: Aphrodite, Zeus, Demeter if it’s a tiny room

[still mantle]

Yeah demeter can be really bad

Not as bad as in h1!

[crude dragon]

Even in the first game, I still usually angered Poseidon because he, Artemis, and Athena were the most fair to fight

[cunning laurel]

when demeter puts a tornado on revenants

[final saddle]

Bc of how I grab boons and who I like I usually have to choose between Aphrodite and Zeus, and imo Zeus is the better one

[still mantle]

[still mantle]

What does aprodite do?

I dont think I've ever made her annoyed in this game

Mostly because I barely use her

[still mantle]

Poseidon: it seems like you always side against me, niece!
Me: yeah, I do

[buoyant matrix]

same as first game, big heart that slowly follows you around

[final saddle]

Tracking hearts, hard to dodge for me

Zeus and Aphro were always problems

[still mantle]

So basically poseidon's but a bit harder

[cunning laurel]

they both completely useless

[still mantle]

It seems like most of the angee god attacks aren't as bad in this game

[crude dragon]

Same as the first game

Does the heart move slower in this game than it did in the first game? Because I remember Aphro being one of the three you never angered as Zag

(The other two being Dio and Dem)

[still mantle]

Idk

What i do remember is playing trippy nuke and having to choose between demeter and dionysyus

[broken creek]

Yeah they're all pretty easy minus demeter

Aphro is deceptively hard since theres no warning when the heart moves and it can spawn right on you and kill you

[brave gate]

Zeus’s can be hard depending on your weapon since it moves so fast

[craggy totem]

Hera and Heph are both menaces in their own way

[brave gate]

And yeah Aphrodite is card cause I can barely see the heart half the time lol

[brave gate]

Controversial I know but I think Hera is easy. I never get hit by it

[craggy totem]

Well bully for you, laddybuck

[brave gate]

It would’ve been neat if the double god room attacks matched their godsend hexes since in Hades 1 they matched the calls (mostly)

[craggy totem]

Hang on a sec, are you saying it isn't actually good for you to be able to nohit Hera 😂

[brave gate]

Oh by the way, I don’t know if anyone remember but a few weeks ago we were discussing if it was possible to get at least one boon from every god in one run.

Well we were really overthinking how to get the last god because you can just get Hera’s legendary lol

[broken creek]

Just dont stand in 1 spot 🥀

[brave gate]

I can’t tell what you’re asking 😭

[craggy totem]

Heph be like "this entire room is my spot"

[broken creek]

Heph sure its too big and fast for dealing 25 damage but like hera?? You have so much time

[brave gate]

I’d rather Hera because it’s a handful of sticks to dash across. Zeus’ is super fast and Apollo’s is much bigger, so they’re both harder to dodge imo

[craggy totem]

She has range and that's not allowed 😔

[craggy totem]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bully#Adjective

[brave gate]

Meant your second message

[brave gate]

What's the base crit chance for strikes? Like without anything that adds crit chance

[cunning laurel]

without crit chance the chance is 0

[crude dragon]

I don't think I need to deal with Hera buffing all the enemies like Athena did

[crude dragon]

There is none

[brave gate]

I thought when the game slows down slight and you attack has a wave that's its a crit

[cunning laurel]

wym a wave

[brave gate]

nvm I'm probably crazy

[cunning laurel]

wounds and heph blasts kinda slow, maybe thats what youre thinking

[crude dragon]

Is this just you forgetting you picked up Ocean Swell?

Also, yeah, clangs and Wounds have hitstop

[brave gate]

Np its not a literal wave I'm seeing

[cunning laurel]

crits dont even look different besides the damage number

[still mantle]

FRICKIN INSTAKILL

I HATE IT

The most random deaths

[cunning laurel]

wym random the charge up is like 5 whole seconds

[crude dragon]

Did you try out Frenzy and then take it off?

[still mantle]

By random I mean im doing so well then I get hourglass'd

[still mantle]

No

[crude dragon]

Oh, Tempii moment

[still mantle]

Im keeping frenzy 1 on

Might try out 2

Welp, the sister blades suck

They've lost their magic

[brave gate]

Does Possessed Array trigger Power Surge? I know it doesnt charge hexes.

[nova oar]

No

[brave gate]

Dang

[nova oar]

You realise if you copy the link it doesn't copy the list you made

You need to ss or download it and then link that image here

[still mantle]

Ah crap

[ashen hollow]

First time using supay after release, man they killed this weapon

Wtf is this

Why is it slow

[brave gate]

It's still good

[hollow crest]

I JUST BEAT GREAT CHASOS BELOW OMFGGG

chronos NO DAMAGE OH MY GOD

i locked in soooo hard

40HP the entire fight

not a single Lovers prock, even

https://imgur.com/a/od9ZDbV

[still mantle]

Wait, what?

Im new-ish to the game, and supay has been one of my most insane runs yet

[timid vigil]

Yeah supay was nuts on EA

I didn't play much at the time myself but I know it was kinda crazy

[still mantle]

Waht did it do before?

[timid vigil]

I don't remember exactly but I believe the auto attacks were faster

The auto attacks also staggered

[still mantle]

I mean for the second problem im thriving with an air quality build

[timid vigil]

Even the rush boon damage was bigger actually

#hades2-patch-notes message you can see here

[ancient token]

Is there a trick to getting Athena? Because I haven't gotten her on Olympus in my last ten runs

[red fox]

Use her keepsake

Or just pray

[ancient token]

I feel like I used to get her like half of the time

[broken creek]

Its just luck

I think she has higher chances if youve dropped a dd??

And her keepsake guarantees ofc

[ancient token]

Well given I've dropped a dd each time not feeling great about that

[broken creek]

Probably just bad luck then

[honest tulip]

BRUH I'm doing the Chaos Random eeverything

FULL SCARS?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

[nova oar]

Damn it can give scars 3?

Not too bad but super unlikely

[red fox]

Well rng is rng

[honest tulip]

These are genuinely some of the worst ones

with none of the easy ones

I got both denial and the onion boon one

[timid vigil]

Yikes

[nova oar]

Denial is easy, ff is rough

[honest tulip]

I AM ON 44 out of 230 HP

I just killed SCYLLA 😭😭😭😭😭

[nova oar]

😭

[honest tulip]

Also Once again I hate born gain

[nova oar]

[honest tulip]

I just over primed once again

[nova oar]

Are you not taking magic pots

[ancient token]

I'm trying to bond with Eris, and it keeps saying I need to win more victories against her. I've beaten her over 50 times. How many times do I have to beat her?

I've probably beaten her close to 60

[broken creek]

Take gonion for the heal

Or early pin for safety

[red fox]

Choose keepsake in chaos run?

[nova oar]

You probably need to beat rivals

[broken creek]

Ohhh wait yeah my bad

[ancient token]

I've beaten rivals about 30 times

[broken creek]

hope for gonion/pin

[ancient token]

Her rival at least.

I've only beaten typhon rival once

[honest tulip]

I have 67 health

OUT OF 280

[broken creek]

Just stop getting hit twin

[honest tulip]

This is the worst thing

[crisp comet]

Is status shock good on anubus? Like does it sent out a bolt with every tick of damage or just once?

[ancient token]

it's great

With every tick I believe

[crisp comet]

That would be great

I just passed on it because it was common hopefully I can grab it this run

[nova oar]

Yeah it's very good

[nova oar]

Why would you pass on a boon because of its rarity

[ancient token]

Heaven Strike + Static Shock + Arc Flash is wild

[crisp comet]

Well I needed another boon that also rolled

[nova oar]

Yeah arc flash goes crazy on anubis

[honest tulip]

I freaking death defied against cerberus

[nova oar]

Which one?

[crisp comet]

On Anubis or in general or both

[ancient token]

Anubis

[crude dragon]

Never pass up a Zeus boon because of rarity, not when you can potentially Ransom it into the upper stratosphere

[crisp comet]

special

fair

[honest tulip]

Oh wow knucklebones against Chronos Thanks Chaos 🙄

[broken creek]

At least it does something

[ancient token]

Add Mirrored Ankh and you're cooking

[nova oar]

Ah ok that's valid then

[nova oar]

Both

[crisp comet]

Hadn't thought put zeus on attack

Though I have Hestia this run anway

[honest tulip]

LIFE TAX

[nova oar]

Zeus attack goes on anything

[honest tulip]

It doesn't say vow of Scars penelty

[nova oar]

It's winnable

[honest tulip]

Is it un effected?

[nova oar]

No it works through scars

[crude dragon]

Zeus, like the Creation engine, just works

[crude dragon]

It is a Scars bypass, yes

Wasn't before 1.0 launch, IIRC, but it is now

[honest tulip]

117 HP / 285 HP which means I can add 150 and I have 2 DDs (I sold a zeus boon to buy another DD)

[broken creek]

Life tax, gonion, self healing, dds, nergal, some weapons vampyric hammers, etc go through scars

[crisp comet]

zeus go brr

[nova oar]

Oh yeah easy wins

[crude dragon]

Another important one is Revival from Chaos

[ancient token]

I slept on zeus for too long

[honest tulip]

oh woah Nem is here

[craggy totem]

She does that

[broken glen]

Zeus and Hera are the power couple of hades 2

Slap either one onto any build

[honest tulip]

The power of Divorce!!

[crisp comet]

Man I just death defined 3 times on Eris rivalry fml

Athena or bust lmao

[broken glen]

I enjoy how well supergiant depicted their clearly unhealthy relationship

They have completely opposite needs but they feel pressured to stay together to keep up appearances

[honest tulip]

I have literally already ran out of heal

114 hp 1 DD and 40 shield

This should not be hard

It is literally just Scars

I have
Grit I
Frenzy I
Menace I
Return I
Fangs I
Debt I
Forfeit I
Time I
Hubris I
Denial I

AND SCARS III ?????

[timid vigil]

Diabolical chaos trial

[broken creek]

Literally free besides scars3

[timid vigil]

Still funny af

[broken creek]

Although time1 you get to play super slow and safe

[timid vigil]

What aspect?

[honest tulip]

Eos

[timid vigil]

Oh it's fine then

[honest tulip]

They gave me both Death AND Strength 😭

[timid vigil]

Classic

Do you have orig?

[broken creek]

Yeah eos is free asf

[still mantle]

Jeweled pom is growing on me

[honest tulip]

Ok I had 40 hp and a DD left 😭 his Phase 2 is so much easier than phase 1

I TOOK MORE DAMAGE TO THE GOLDWRAITH

I was doing awful damage 😭

[broken creek]

What was the build eos is super strong 🥀

[timid vigil]

Were you not spamming special?

[honest tulip]

I was

[timid vigil]

[honest tulip]

I think that's the only reason I won 😭 It was making up for my awful build

[timid vigil]

Crazy how regular attack got into top damage but not special

[honest tulip]

Wait that was 2 achievements

[broken creek]

Yeah hera special is super strong on it

[honest tulip]

^I got that In Tartarus btw

That was the second time I saw her

[broken creek]

Why didnt you take posiedon special then 🥀

Like literally what were your boon choices you had a super strong pool

[honest tulip]

I mean my cast was good

Oh fun fact if you Sacrafice a boon you can get it back even with Denial

It was really funny cause it was the only option left

I'm using Supay rn

I seriously just feel like a stage hazzard

this is so weird 😭

I've also got the Hades Jars and my Hex is summoning

[crisp comet]

How do I unlock the next step of the vow or rivals I've done it going both directions

[craggy totem]

Have you fought every miniboss in Thessaly?

[crisp comet]

ah

maybe not idk

[craggy totem]

You can check this via the prophecy about Surface minibosses/"Wardens"

[crisp comet]

I only see unrivaled prowess

[craggy totem]

Okay, maybe time for details.

How many levels of Rivals have you unlocked so far? And by "done it" do you mean you took the vow or do you mean you beat the Rivals boss?

[crisp comet]

2

and I did scilla and eris

took the vow and won

Well I'm not sure if I cleared the run but I def beat the rival boss its showing in the prophcy

[craggy totem]

Look for the Shadow of Doom prophecy.

Is it fully completed/is the Thessaly section filled out

[crisp comet]

completed

[craggy totem]

And just to be sure, you've checked the cauldron and nada?

[final saddle]

Hitless ||Zagreus|| on my second try let’s go

With a little help from Hestia cast and Howling Soul too

[crisp comet]

Oooooh

Cauldron\

doy ty lol

[rough lintel]

what aspect for high fear?

i've tried moros, circe, mel staff, mel skull, medea

[glacial light]

What vows?

[nova oar]

Eos

Nyx

Charon

[broken creek]

Every mel aspect besides axe and torches, persephone

[craggy totem]

How high ya tawkin

[broken creek]

Im assuming 50f cuz they mentioned in victory boasting that they got close on a surface run

[honest tulip]

I just got recomended a video where someone used Solo Tula for all damage

[broken creek]

I think someone in this server did that a while ago

The run was like an hour long igt lmao

[honest tulip]

this is insane lol

oh hey so this is how I learned figleaf works like fates whim but without the fates whim part

[broken creek]

??

You mean like fig scamming??

[honest tulip]

I thought it only happened once

[broken creek]

No it triggers for 3 regions

Or has a chance to i should say even when removed

Hence why its an r2 take

[craggy totem]

I think they did it twice, even

Or maybe the first try got messed up by one (1) thing of trap damage or something

[craggy totem]

If you mean the thing where it stays in effect after removal, ftr the tip I was told is that if it says "this night, __" in the description, then you keep the effect.

[broken creek]

Also the whole keepsake says multiple regions so if you had to keep it on it'd be a bit counter intuitive

[honest tulip]

Does taking off the Chaos Embryo loose the boon?

[craggy totem]

Nope.

You lose the ability for it to automatically change every x rooms.

[honest tulip]

wow so chaos really Didn't need me to chaperone it beside for the lolz

[craggy totem]

Yep. Pure lulz. Chaotic person, our stepgrandparent.

[crisp comet]

I thought moros was consdered the best flame aspect

[broken creek]

Eos is better for high fear

Safer, more mana efficient, moros has higher damage though just for fear stuff you want safety and consistency

[crisp comet]

I see

[final saddle]

Eos is funny

[crisp comet]

Is running full Rivals the 32 fear meta

[final saddle]

You throw out the big ball and then you beat the room without seeing the last guy on screen

[red fox]

The ability to run rival 4 frenzy 2 give you a lot of leeway for 32f

[final saddle]

I usually like getting Zeus attack and Hera special, but nowaday’s I’m on Fate’s Whim so I just go with something solo and big for attack and something aoe and stackable on special

[crisp comet]

I'm so booty at the rivals fights

[final saddle]

Treat all Rivals fights like completely new bosses

[broken creek]

I mean rivals4 frenzy2 timer3 is a free like 24 lol

[crisp comet]

I wouldn't call it free 😭

[final saddle]

Don’t use tricks that worked on say regular Polyphemus in rivals with absolute confidence until you test it

[broken creek]

But unless you plan on going like 40+ theres no need to

[final saddle]

What’s the max you gotta hit to unlock everything btw?

[broken creek]

32/24 on uw/surface for the last statue

[crisp comet]

The fear system here is interesting because it seems more fair if every aspect has cleared max, but I was able to push heat higher in h1

[broken creek]

Testaments only go to 20, and achievement hunters only need the 2nd statue

[final saddle]

I’m on Switch so no cheevos lol

[crisp comet]

wait you don't need 32 clear for all the achievements ?

[final saddle]

Although for me personally that’d be the third statue as my goal

[honest tulip]

I am an achievement hunter but I still got the 3ed statue cause I really wanted to see what it was

[crisp comet]

I feel like ya gotta

[broken creek]

Steam only counts the 2nd statue

[craggy totem]

There is one victory screen title that only shows up if you run 40F, iirc, but yeah, there's not a lot of "you must do high Fear for completion" stuff

and you can definitely do up to 40F with no Rivals, if you don't intend on going further :B

[red fox]

50f no rival trust

[crisp comet]

I'm afraid to see what Typhon rivals is

[honest tulip]

Typhtwo

[crisp comet]

Oh no

[honest tulip]

Imagine how bad Typhthree would be

[sudden eagle]

Are nectars still useful once you max out bonds with everyone?

[red fox]

No

[rough lintel]

yes

so basically everything but void, denial and scar

[rough lintel]

it's easier than chronos rival for sure

[broken creek]

No denial and scars2 is crazy

Theyre both free fear and let you not use hoards3

[honest tulip]

really? I felt it was the other way around

[broken creek]

Nah typhon is substantially easier

[broken creek]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMSwyLDYsMCwzLDIsNSwyLDIsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd
Id be doing this for 50

[rough lintel]

hord + return is so ass

[rough lintel]

mel on surface run is much stronger

promacles is harder than typhon, significantly

[honest tulip]

huh??

[rough lintel]

rival typhon is easy if u know the cheese

[broken creek]

Then dont run hoards 😭

[honest tulip]

I really didn't feel the rivals 3ed was that hard

[broken creek]

Its 50f you can avoid it entirely

[rough lintel]

true

[honest tulip]

Hit one while the other is busy telegraphing

[rough lintel]

also you can hitch knuckle bone

[broken creek]

Yeah bones kinda murders prom

High fear consensus is that uw bosses are harder but surface enemies are harder

Nothing on surface compares to how hecate murders timer, scylla can just kill you, and chronos takes minutes long and will checkmate you

But surface then has menace thessaly and olympus so ._.

[rough lintel]

and cerebus being cerebus

(complete pushover)

[broken creek]

Cerb will randomly decide to time you tf out tho

Or his classic basically undodgeable fire breath if you arent point blank

[frigid sapphire]

Is hades 2 getting any new patches or is it finished (not bug fixes)

[rough lintel]

debt 2 is impossible without rolex

[red fox]

It is finished

[crude dragon]

Hordes + anything is ass, it's one of the last things you turn on

[rough lintel]

even void?

[wide wigeon]

foid

[red fox]

Void is the very last thing

[queen cosmos]

Whats the coolest bosses you've seen ever

For me its definitely cerberus, prometheus, eres and typhon

[wide wigeon]

in hades or in general?

[queen cosmos]

General

[queen cosmos]

Oh and ill put leshy scrybe of all beasts as well

From inscryption

[wide wigeon]

nightmare king grimm

[queen cosmos]

And the queen from dead cells

AND last judge from silksong

[wide wigeon]

man theres a queen in dead cells?

shi I only beat the general

[limpid stream]

Can someone recomend me a cast heavy build?

[slim pike]

Circe and anything?

[merry whale]

circe aspect and just throw every single omega cast boon on it

funny dmg 💪

[slim pike]

Or just charon with supernova and gyser spout

Funni kaboom is funny

[merry whale]

tru

[queen cosmos]

Its the dlc

[slim pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1464350968245129247/2056771.JPG?ex=6978725d&is=697720dd&hm=4a13fbb3acf8c09a30fd201134c43e720810581257a33f7ec77aa4457e1b8006&

Booooom

[wide wigeon]

oh yeah im not buying any dlc so base game final boss is the general right?

[queen cosmos]

WHAT

Dead cells is nothing without all the dlcs

[slim pike]

I think it was free update? Or was it.

[queen cosmos]

Its not even roguelike then

Like your exploring options are so limited then

[queen cosmos]

No

[wide wigeon]

im not buying dlc 🥀 why cant everyone do a team cherry

[queen cosmos]

Queen and the sea dlc

[queen cosmos]

Just ehem, 🦜 it

[wide wigeon]

bird it? what that mean twin

[queen cosmos]

Smth smth

🏴‍☠️

[wide wigeon]

i like your funny words magic man

[queen cosmos]

You remind me of the sherlock holmes dude from there is no game wrong dimension

[wide wigeon]

lmao idk what that is

[scenic epoch]

I have taken the Apollo keepsake in region 1. If I keep it active while entering region 2, will I get an apollo boon again? Or is it one time use like hades 1?

[real scarab]

only 1 dlc is free which is required for the true ending. other dlc's add extra biomes,weapons and bosses but they're all really good

[slim pike]

Ah well

The shipwreck level had the best music

[real scarab]

and it has the best bosses ye

[red fox]

1 time use

[slim pike]

Never did complete it because full difficulty to get the true ending shfdhsdggdj

[wide wigeon]

you get to rarify if you didnt before but idk if you get an apollo room

[slim pike]

You don't get the rarify refreshed

it's completely dead weight to keep a god keepsake for more than one region

[wide wigeon]

cant you rarify if you didnt do it yet

[slim pike]

well okay, but like... why do that?

[red fox]

Well you can but why you ain't rarify the first one you picked

[wide wigeon]

js to keep the option ig idk i rarify first time also i dont like apollo

[slim pike]

even if there was nothing worth doing that to, keeping it on to get one rarify from one god is... well yeah

Calling Card gives you 6 rarifies and people call that weak so yeah

[red fox]

Well card has opportunity cost

[wide wigeon]

i wish athena still gave the dash boon

[red fox]

Athena still have dash boon

[slim pike]

Well yeah, but so does keeping on a keepsake for two zones

which is my comparison here

[wide wigeon]

not like the hades 1 one

[slim pike]

It's exactly like it. The main issue with it is the fact that you're using it in Hades 2

Enemies are far less "Throw basic projectile at you" than in the first game

[wide wigeon]

wait did i not get this or am i forgetting divine dash wha

[red fox]

Athena even has special line for it

[wide wigeon]

i get it its cause im usually picking the defiance boons i didnt even notice the other boons

[slim pike]

"Your brother's favourite"

And also "When in doubt..."

[wide wigeon]

why cant we upgrade keepsakes to heroic

[red fox]

You can

[slim pike]

What would it do?

[red fox]

Cherished heirloom

[slim pike]

Upgrade a heroic boon to double heroic?

[wide wigeon]

i lknow with that one boon

[slim pike]

Nope

That won't upgrade god keepsakes

[red fox]

It upgrade keepsake, just not god keepsake

They asked why can't we upgrade keepsake

[wide wigeon]

no i mean permanently

[slim pike]

Oh they didn't specify

[slim pike]

Because that would render that duo obsolete

[wide wigeon]

js make it 5 star

[red fox]

And 4th level keepsake is super strong too

[slim pike]

As would allowing level 4 arcana and rank 6 weapons permanently

[red fox]

Nergal and momus liked that

[slim pike]

Thanatos rank 6 is silly

[red fox]

Lv 4 arcana is surprisingly weak tho (except death)

[slim pike]

that's because they're just linear increases

Rank 4 keepsakes are scaled like they're really rank 5, rank 6 weapons are more like rank 8

[red fox]

While rank 4 arcana is actually rank 4

[slim pike]

yeah, much as I'd really love a rank 6 Origination

In saying that though, even a lot of perfected weapons are still not worth the legendary boon it needs

and a lot of them are just straight up inferior to certain hammer upgrades

Pan gives you 3 more charge levels ar rank 6... Or just hidden knives

[red fox]

And hidden knives is still better

[slim pike]

very much so

[red fox]

Morrigan also straight up a hammer upgrade too

Except it is a good one

[slim pike]

is it though?

It's not close to the top of my picks for Morrigan

[red fox]

Big number, brain happy, good

Not top pick, but good pick

Sweeping ambush and final slice is there

[slim pike]

It is kinda sad that Premium service would be better if all it did was "You spawn a 🔨 "

[red fox]

Well good on 2 weapon is good enough ig

Legendary barely show up anyway

[slim pike]

Makes momus viable, lol

Kinda bonkers on Nyx and Moros

(it goes to 105% in both cases)

[rough lintel]

how is eos good?

maybe im using it wrong but i feels like it's so much worse than moros and mel

[red fox]

Range, safe, don't use a lot of magick

[broken creek]

Its functionally doubling of any special you output while being very safe and strong

The builds tend to be big%/zeus on attack and hestia/pos/hera for the special

And cuz it copies Ospec and special the numbers you can put up end up along with safe cc its a very strong high fear weapon

[rough lintel]

pos?

[broken creek]

Posiedon

[rough lintel]

ah right

yea my closest run with 50 fear is with morrigan

[slim pike]

Stop spamming attack once the daybreaker is out, it kinda needs a bit of a brain rewrite at first

[rough lintel]

??

what

[broken creek]

Once daybreaker is out you should only be mashing special

You send it out, Ospec so it copies, then spam special until you need to put it back out or reposition it

[rough lintel]

ahhhh

[broken creek]

And since it tracks enemies you get to play safe while it murders everything for you

[rough lintel]

righttt

also i hate playing death

ur so fragile and ur dps is so bad anyways

[broken creek]

Its safer than strength

Plus the 20% from strength is negligible

Even in 65 you dont take strength purely cuz the damage

You take it so you can get death later

[rough lintel]

i only run death when max scar

[broken creek]

And dps being bad is a build diff

[rough lintel]

right

also don't you find it's funny how one of the best designed boss in video game history (prometheus) is followed by one of the worst boss ever (typhon)

[broken creek]

I wouldnt say typhon is bad hes just a meat sponge once you get used to it

[rough lintel]

typhon is so ass

[nova oar]

Wild take

[abstract aspen]

supay feel so inneficient in term of magic usage, it chug all of it in one scoop

[abstract aspen]

tail of typhon beat me so many time

circe just activated my unseen card, so proud yet I feel stabbed

[tropic ravine]

How do

So

[abstract aspen]

oh my mighty brother who shine in this brighty screen, give me your strenght for shall I, in the name of Hades, will conquer once again mont olympus

[tropic ravine]

Nuh uh give me nectar first there’s a whole system in place

[abstract aspen]

[tropic ravine]

[abstract aspen]

I'll conquer this montain, defeat the heinous monster by extracting wich of his blood colored eyed, then I'll come to kick your hairy buttom with your spear

[tropic ravine]

Ok what is that emoji

[abstract aspen]

I don't know man, that's you

[slim pike]

Yeah, it's so expensive for very little power increase, but what else are you going to do with it?

Spend 30 magic to make your attack hit as hard as a blades basic attack

[abstract aspen]

I died in this run because it shug magic so fast even with 200 then I was there doing no damage and prometheus killed me

[compact geyser]

aspect of moros makes me a little happy because it reminds me of the funny ghost attacks from early access

i miss the funny ghosts

[abstract aspen]

why does on low fear when I gater ressources the timer stop but now on 20fear the timer don't stop

[nova oar]

Some resources stop time, some don't

[abstract aspen]

I just beat prometheus but I don't know which keepsake to choose next
I had jeweledpom, hammer and onion

[compact geyser]

do you need anything

[abstract aspen]

I'm just short on life

[compact geyser]

how's your gold looking

[nova oar]

Antler

[abstract aspen]

I have 620 before using hermes

[compact geyser]

if you want more gold, there's the time piece

if you're feeling lucky, the egg

[abstract aspen]

I have 80/320 hp, restricting to 30 feel weird, why choosing this one ?

[nova oar]

Not for region 4

[nova oar]

Big damage

[compact geyser]

Egg

[nova oar]

😒

At least pin or fang

[compact geyser]

what's pin?

[nova oar]

Moros pin

[compact geyser]

knucklebones is solid too

[nova oar]

Eh

It's alr

[compact geyser]

yeah it's okay

[abstract aspen]

I'll take fang 30% damage is big

[compact geyser]

what if egg just gives you +126% omega damage?

[abstract aspen]

thanks

[abstract aspen]

I don't use omega damage

[nova oar]

Do u not have it upgraded?

[abstract aspen]

It will be blue in 2 encounter

[compact geyser]

that's good then i think

[real scarab]

if you have a lot of olympian damage fang is really good yea

but not that much for % stuff

[nova oar]

Still worth

[abstract aspen]

I just saw why I couldn't use omega on this run
I have 9/9 magic with 146primed

[nova oar]

😭

[abstract aspen]

why do I have 146 primed ?

[compact geyser]

is it hubris

[abstract aspen]

oh I have hubris 2

nevermind I don't need omega, omega need me

[real scarab]

nah I'd rather take pin

[nova oar]

Fair

[nova oar]

What aspect?

[abstract aspen]

circe

[compact geyser]

so it's a cast build

[abstract aspen]

nah i have scorch on attacks and heph on special, I'm spamming those

[nova oar]

[abstract aspen]

and heph on cast to now

[nova oar]

Circe doesn't need omegas but it needs a better cast boon than that

Do you have origination?

[abstract aspen]

I'll go see to tell you

yes I have this one

do chain reaction work even if I don't have any zeus boon ?

[nova oar]

You need static shock

[compact geyser]

what's your heph cool down?

[nova oar]

Do you have two curses

[abstract aspen]

oh I have this one

[abstract aspen]

apolo on dash and scorch on attacks

[abstract aspen]

6 sec

f

I just died

[compact geyser]

rip

[abstract aspen]

I had so low hp but I shredded 3/4 of his hp bar in 2sec

[compact geyser]

you'll get em next time

[hollow crest]

hi. is it fun to get into high heat. im always someone who challenges himself everywhere, but i feel like high heat is just not fun. maybe i dislike the randomness factor of it.. like if i don't get ~heph then howam i supposed to play without healing? etc.

and that vow that turns 4 boons into onions. i've done the Great Chaos Below yesterday, and it was just hell. i didn't feel like i'm getting strong, it felt more like i was barely making it through without any dopamine behind it

[tranquil wren]

how high is high for you? I find 32F to be pretty fun but it isn't considered high by a lot of people

vowe of forfeit is usually not taken even at 32F, it's usually just denial plus something else

[nova oar]

What you consider high fear is important here, cause high fear for me is 50+, and you would probably hate that

[hollow crest]

32 is not high fear lol, 0-67 you can definitely tell 34 is the middle, so yea high heat

[timid vigil]

By definition maybe but you only need to turn on the really messed up vows after 50

[gusty maple]

It's far from being linear though

[timid vigil]

Also I wouldn't say randomness plays a big factor (until 50 at least), it's more of adapting to whatever the game gives you which in a way is a skill

[tacit iris]

Chronos keeps decking me with that scythe throw

Whats the best way to dodge it?

[long obsidian]

dodge in

[nova oar]

Rivals or normal

[nova oar]

Yeah 50 is the line between learning the game and just the game starting to skill check you

[tacit iris]

What do you mean?

[limpid oar]

If you don't know what Luthien means dw about it, it's a more endgame thing

[slim pike]

Single shot or the um, hard mode?

but yeah, if it's the single one, the trick is to read the tell he has visually. He throws his scythe in the air slightly before throwing it. It always travels clockwise (Guess why!) and there's a giant safe zone in front of him

[tacit iris]

Oohhhh

Thanks for the tip on the safe zone

[slim pike]

that move went from the biggest monster of early access to a free bit of damage against him, mostly due to one change

and it wasn't even a mechanical change

[buoyant matrix]

what

i don't remember any such change

was it before warsong

[slim pike]

It was Chronos' wind up animation

I think before warsong yeah

it used to look almost identical to his scythe slash animation, so it wasn't clear if you needed to dash away or towards him

[buoyant matrix]

oh that's evil

[slim pike]

it was

but now people have learned the tell instinctively, it has become so free

[jolly hound]

It depends on you; high fear feeds my ego, it’s basically like power lifting where after a certain point everyone’s impressed and you’re only going further for the love of the game. the difficulty curve grows very quickly towards the end too; presuming you’re already used to frenzy 2 timer 3 rivals 4, but once you add stuff like pain and scars, the margin for error shrinks so much

[storm glen]

it was like patch 2

the move was also near instant

[jolly hound]

Addendum; you don’t wanna go scars 3 til like, the high 50s/60s. you are right that heph is a great high fear pick (especially w jpom). You may enjoy it more if you pick vows that make combat harder without screwing with your economy, that’s what I do. Hordes 3 rivals 4 no onions no debt at 40

[final saddle]

How do you fight ||Zag|| as melee?

So far I’ve only fought him at range, his attacks seem too big and fast to weave in safely up close with how hard he hits

[split shuttle]

hit and run

[cunning laurel]

no debt at 40 with jpom? whats your r2 keepsake

[jolly hound]

Chrolex if I have travel deal, otherwise calling card or fig leaf

[craggy totem]

With jpom you can even chrolex z3 and that can still cover Debt 2, provided your luck isn't too crap and you're playing something that doesn't demand a hugely statted out build for minimum comfort with whatever other vows you picked

[jolly hound]

yea maybe I should debt more

I took three Hecate Ls in a row that I would have had with an extra boon or two so swapped to hordes 3 and dumped a tick of return and then started winning again I’m weird

[craggy totem]

What's life without a weirdo or three :P

[jolly hound]

It makes engagement ring really strong

[fathom lake]

I love over pomming engagement ring, it turns normal fights into a joke and does just fine to bosses!

[jolly hound]

do it to like 20 fish at once and it hits for like, 1000 each enemy lol

[fathom lake]

Hordes 3 makes it really fun too

[fathom lake]

1.2k-ish

[jolly hound]

No kind of kill quite like overkill

[craggy totem]

DAE remember the Transistor overkill thing

[fathom lake]

Engagement ring its genuinely underrated for Clearing Rooms

You can put somthing else for the main damage

[craggy totem]

If you're running wards, though, it's easy to waste the exponential whatsit

[jolly hound]

I’ve grown quite fond of nexus rush too, just sprint around and clear Erebus instantly

[craggy totem]

Yeah, the sprint is great

The delay sometimes throws me off though

[jolly hound]

hordes not wards 🙃

[fathom lake]

Wards its annoying but workable

[jolly hound]

I wonder how wards 2 revanants 2 and no hordes would feel

[fathom lake]

Booring

Hordes its what turns that annoying

[jolly hound]

fair enough

I need more rivals4 practice first but wanna get to 50

[hollow crest]

yeah i've only done 32 heat once, that's what i pick too

to still keep the combat engaging

5 achievements away from platinum!

[jolly hound]

If you’re getting blowout wins, bump heat up by 4 that’s what I did

[hollow crest]

yeah i barely ever lost runs. the only reason being rivals, and then rivals + frenzy

[abstract aspen]

what's a good combo on the coat ?

[jolly hound]

more weight then

[crude dragon]

It's a fast-attacking weapon (besides hidden), so the usual suspects of Poseidon, Hestia, and Zeus

[craggy totem]

And Hera's always good to have, of course

[abstract aspen]

I lost with it so I took the staff and I won

[buoyant matrix]

holy

<@&456908176877551658>

[flat glacier]

👍

[limpid oar]

did MrBeast escape Bastion?!

[abstract aspen]

now I love hera dash because I just started a run, had this one and 2 pom afterward (with jpom) so epic lvl6, I run in the room and it just despawn everything

[golden egret]

Am I supposed to beat chronos twice in only about 7 hours of playtime? Love this game btw.

[proper seal]

I think thats normal honestly

[golden egret]

Ok nice. I thought I got insanely lucky with my runs.

[proper seal]

ive been increasing my fear

and || last night I fought against Heracles and Prometheus for the first time and boy they were difficult but I managed to defeat them both on my first attempt. Ive been told that prothemeus himself is just a nerfed boss battle. its making sense 😭 ||

[cunning laurel]

yup hes tough with rivals on, needs a lot of timer too

[brave gate]

Bruh omfg, I was almost able to no-hit rivals hecate to keep my crimson dress but got hit at the very end

[golden egret]

I do have a question: how the hell do I get bronze? I need it for many things but can’t seem to even find a single one yet…

[brave gate]

If only the shop had armor

[brave gate]

Surface in Ephyra

[proper seal]

you should be able to find it on the surface

[golden egret]

Oh makes sense. I might actually do the incantation now…

[proper seal]

I only have rivals on for fear but once I max out Rivals I plan to focus on the other vows, most likely the ones that doesnt affect my boon choices

[brave gate]

lol

[brave gate]

Shadows is like Rivals for Wardens

[cunning laurel]

add frenzy 2 asap

[proper seal]

yea probably Shadow, Timer, Frenzy and Menace

I dont want to go too high on difficulty

[brave gate]

Debt 1 is pretty easy

[cunning laurel]

no sense in learning bosses just to change their timings later

[proper seal]

yep once I defeat || Typhon and Chronos in the Final Rival vow || then I will enable the other vows

[broken creek]

Debt2, frenzy2, shadow, menace2, hubris2, denial, and at least fangs1 are all pretty easy

[gusty maple]

Rivals 4 Frenzy 2 is a must to get asap because once you learn timing and patterns it's not that hard

[brave gate]

Debt 2 is kinda tough

[broken creek]

No its not chrolex exists

And even without chrolex boatman guarantees a boon in first shop

After that theres enough gaps in the shops and if you get quick buck youll be able to buy consistently

You just have to accept oceanus shops are kinda dookie but fields and tart are fine

[proper seal]

im gonna try to avoid the Debt vows, just makes coin grinding a bit challenging

[brave gate]

Even with Chrollex it's still tough. Not everyone is as good as you 😭

[broken creek]

Twin 1 chaos/selene and 3 minor rewards is 1100 gold 😭

[brave gate]

Okay?

[broken creek]

1 boon is 270, you have enough for a boon every shop

Like seriously chrolex solves all money problems

[brave gate]

Yeah and a lot of people need to buy more stuff than 1 boon per shop

[craggy totem]

Are you running Artificer+Boatman?

Or, is it an aspect thing perhaps?

[broken creek]

Yeah and you have uhhh 300 to spend in oceanus 2 shops and fields endshop

Which is enough for armor

[brave gate]

I'm not saying I struggle a ton with it. I'm just saying it's not super easy.

[broken creek]

Not even considering enemy drops, room rewards, travel deal, quick buck

[golden egret]

Does Apollo’s attack even increase range on the axe? I can’t notice it.

[gusty maple]

It does

[proper seal]

yep, makes attacks larger

[gusty maple]

It's actually very noticeable on Omega attack

[broken creek]

Nemesis is also a free 100 so a mid chrolex with a nem and boatman means you have 1500 to spend without counting enemies, room rewards, and boons that help it too

Genuinley if you run out of money what are you spending it on

[gusty maple]

Do y'all buy charon wells stuff

[craggy totem]

Depends on what the stuff is

And how much money I have, and what kind of run

[cunning laurel]

love an ixion usually

[broken creek]

Not really theyre kinda stinky unless its ixion or daniad

Ik the 500 mana one has some use for magic stuff

[broken creek]

And if we assume actually you chrolex a mana pot or heart that amount just goes up

Or the time you get a chaos and selene chrolex

[cunning laurel]

armor is good

[broken creek]

Ive had times i end a run with >1k at 62 because you get so much money even with debt active

[golden egret]

Also does Hera only appear at a certain point like with Demeter in Hades 1?

[broken creek]

Yeah hera shows up once you do surface iirc

[golden egret]

Man I REALLY need to go to the surface now lol.

[broken creek]

Ares is also tied to region4 of surface

[cunning laurel]

go too far and you'll start getting ares though

[golden egret]

And Athena too I guess?

Her event .

[proper seal]

yea Athena only appears on the surface unless u have her Keepsake

[golden egret]

Yeah well I just need to wait for that shadow.

[golden egret]

And what would you recommend on the special? Would put Hera if I had her…

[proper seal]

Zeus, Poseidon, and Aphrodite have good special boons

Demeter special is also good

[cunning laurel]

axe special does multi hit but it only procs one poseidon wave

[proper seal]

unless the omega special is used

[cunning laurel]

then it hits 2 times if youre lucky

[proper seal]

mhm right

[cunning laurel]

you know the omega special is the 3 circles in a line right

so if you somehow hit all 3 that's 3 waves

[proper seal]

I do know that indeed

Axe omega special is very fun

[cunning laurel]

sure but poseidon is not it

[proper seal]

yea your right posedions special is more efficient on other weapons

now that I have given more thought to it

[golden egret]

…how do I get Thalamus?

[broken creek]

Chaos

[proper seal]

you need to go to chaos

its gonna take time to find but itll appear there

[golden egret]

Oh thanks.

[hollow crest]

scylla rivals is the hardest boss in the game i will die on this hill

chronos rivals is a snoozefest, a literal worm, a maggot, a piece of dirt compared to this abomination of a fight

i am currently doing all aspects runs - and there was a chance to get to chronos with Arachne dress. well no, i'm never EVER EVER passing through rival Scylla frenzy 2 with less than 200 damage taken

i refuse to believe there is a person in this world able to no hit this bs

[proper seal]

I absolutely agree

with the inclusion of || Charybdis || the fight got 10x harder

[hollow crest]

consort radahn and malenia are easier to no hit than this. literally mood ruined. i had 150 armor, fml

[limpid oar]

maybe not without getting hit but i have managed to do it without getting damaged

[jolly hound]

one thing that is super effective on her is the hestia moon bomb hex, obvi a lot needs to go right to have that online in time but one volley per phase is like, 2/3 of the fight done for you and you can aim a moon bomb at Roxy too

I call it the Hestia hellbomb but idk what it’s actually called

[tranquil wren]

pcr is wayyy harder trust me

[hollow crest]

ive no hit him countless times check my steam. and no, scylla is on another lvl, my 10yo brother can beat pcr

[broken creek]

I have a damagless 62 vid lol

[hollow crest]

honestly im just tired of this game. 400hrs i still don't have 50 achievements. not a single game in my life has required this much

[hollow crest]

good for you mr jesus christ. you probably walk on water too. no damage

[tranquil wren]

took me just 100hrs for 100%

[broken creek]

Yeah 400hrs is crazy work

[tranquil wren]

also you don't need to nohit rivals scylla

[hollow crest]

https://imgur.com/a/qXkzdZP

[tranquil wren]

I'm in England so I can't see that

[jolly hound]

You don’t need rivals on for the dress achievement fam

[broken creek]

https://youtu.be/UAyViYUrV7g?si=q2tAi2qltuloGbOA
The damagless scylla in question

[tranquil wren]

can't believe people are still using imgur in the big 2026 😔

[jolly hound]

We’re stuck with it cause can’t post images here

[hollow crest]

dude i had no idea imur exists. this dumbass server doesn't let me post pics

the only server in the existence of discord to have this nonsense

[tranquil wren]

it's easier to post the image link from a priv discord

[broken creek]

Discussion doesnt embed

[jolly hound]

you can take a break, it isn’t a paid job

[tranquil wren]

yeah but neither does an imgur link. you can still click on the image link to view the image

[cunning laurel]

if achievements is the concern what is so hard you are missing it

[tranquil wren]

^

[hollow crest]

that's the entire thing, i wanna be finished with this game. it's been 2 months 400 hours, i wanna play E33, BG3, replay witcher, etc.

[brave gate]

I know that for Chronos, Moros Pin keeps you alive if you beat a phase during the 10 seconds. How does it work for Typhon?

[hollow crest]

https://imgur.com/a/CCBKa9L

[tranquil wren]

you absolutely do not need frenzy2 and rivals3(4?) for 100% achievements

you're just making it harder for yourself

[hollow crest]

i was never turning it off, that's it

because i feel bad for playing lower than frenzy 2 rivals 2-3

[broken creek]

Dressed to kill you can just do 0 fear

[hollow crest]

yea ikr. it's just a shame that i almost got it, if not for the worst boss in videogaming

i swear bed of chaos is more enjoyable as a fight

[tranquil wren]

so you're making the 100% process harder for yourself and then complaining about it?

[hollow crest]

yes. so what

[tranquil wren]

just making sure

[broken creek]

Then you have no real complaints...

I hate rivals scylla cuz I play 62-67f

[hollow crest]

i do. that is my complaint. terrible boss design

[cunning laurel]

remember that guy on reddit who called chronos the hardest boss in videogame history

[broken creek]

Lmao yeah shoutout that guy

[hollow crest]

the longest ever it took me to beat a boss was isshin. 8 hours

malenia was 4,5 hours, pcr was 1,5 hours

[cunning laurel]

well if hes that hard why isnt that terrible boss design

[tranquil wren]

idk it sounds like you're just not fighting the boss properly

[cunning laurel]

rivals scylla is very fair

[hollow crest]

absolute radiance from HK and supreme calamitas from calamity mod are one of the hardest bosses in videogames imo

[brave gate]

How is this possible

[cunning laurel]

thats crazy absrad is a joke

[tranquil wren]

making it harder for themselves

[broken creek]

Absrad is only hard because the runback is all of p5

[hollow crest]

idk when then game told me i get gems(kudos) for this weapon - i do a run with it. i did that for like 200 hours to get kudos and decorate. i thought that meant something

[brave gate]

Only thing that feels a bit unfair is when Charybdis is the featured artist in phase 2

[cunning laurel]

yea kindaa

[broken creek]

Speaking of i need to p5 all bindings

[hollow crest]

we are talking absrad, not p5. and no, i disagree. i'd say she is one of the hardest bosses ever.

[tranquil wren]

so you weren't even going for 100% for the first 200 hours? bruh

[brave gate]

?

What does that have to do with achievements

[broken creek]

Yeah absrad on its own is kinda free

[hollow crest]

idk i thought i was progressing

[tranquil wren]

💀

[broken creek]

The second you know how you ddark iframe its kinda easy

[tranquil wren]

the prophecy list is there for a reason

it's the in-game achievement guide (mostly)

[hollow crest]

i was just playing and progressing. at the end i stopped progressing for no reason, so i had to go out of my way to targfet specific achievements

[cunning laurel]

yea some things you are unlikely to get without trying for it

[tranquil wren]

again that sounds like you made it harder for yourself

[hollow crest]

yeah i figured, unfortunate. now i'll have to do 1 more run because of arachne. if she doesn't proc ill uninstall myself

[brave gate]

whats wrong with having to go for specific achievements? Besides, there's only like 2 that you'd need to specifically go for

Wild concept: If you aren't having fun, stop playing 💀

[hollow crest]

what does that change, im not a noob and am always good at any game i touch, it hurts to say that i lose to such a pathetic spam of a boss like scylla

[broken creek]

Just do 0 fear, take heph r1 and sash r2 and dressed to kill is free

[cunning laurel]

what specifically is so hard about rivals scylla

[broken creek]

Scylla at 62f and below is very fair

[tranquil wren]

stop playing frenzy2 rivals scylla then mate

[brave gate]

The world doesnt collapse if you aren't good at Hades 2, ya know

[broken creek]

You only die cuz you forgot to keep a tab on something or put yourself in a bad position in the first place

[tranquil wren]

I genuinely don't get why you need to fight rivals scylla with frenzy2 on

[broken creek]

Proper targeting is also very important

[hollow crest]

i specifically watched a guide for the boss, LITERALLY

[tranquil wren]

like get it down perfectly at 0 frenzy then work your way up

[hollow crest]

did everything as said - still took 150dmg

[tranquil wren]

_ _

[cunning laurel]

obviously you did it poorly then

[broken creek]

Then you executed poorly