h2-discussion

[nova oar]

Literally

[elfin heron]

All the drama aside

The credits music is fire

[timid vigil]

It really is

[smoky orchid]

Other aspects are amazing. Knife aspects are super friendly to new users too

[pseudo badger]

and that time is already better spent than this garbage unskippable time waste

[smoky orchid]

Highly recommend knife aspects as beginning

[timid vigil]

Although I was having mixed feelings on the original ending when credits rolled, after the patch experiencing the ending again I was able to enjoy the music a lot more

[smoky orchid]

I tried it in the training grounds and I was having fun with it

[nova oar]

Yesss me too

[smoky orchid]

No staff aspects are bad, it's crazy

[elfin heron]

I wonder why Lim and Oros is not the starter weapon though

I imagine it would make sense to use that as a starter considering Mel in the title screen used it

[nova oar]

Momus:

[smoky orchid]

I like momus... its not terrible

[nova oar]

Actually momus is fine, just tough to compete with the other staff aspects

[pseudo badger]

never saw sheep behaviour like this in my life tho, pay respect to devs by watching random names roll for 10 mins

[timid vigil]

Still, compared to the credits on hades 1 I prefer that, I was legit clapping and really emotional the whole credits sequence, its a menory I'll never forget

[smoky orchid]

It was one of the first two weapons available

[elfin heron]

If only the thing u placed aims directly at the enemies or just make it do a omega when u also do a omega

[smoky orchid]

In EA

[nova oar]

People worked hard on the game, it's important to recognise the people that made it happen so you could enjoy the game

[smoky orchid]

And the demo * it was staff and knife

[nova oar]

It's called having empathy

[nova oar]

It was fine when the timer was shorter

[pseudo badger]

there are 99% of ppl in other fields working every day, not having their names rolled on credits, get over it

[nova oar]

Huh?

[smoky orchid]

=help

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[nova oar]

You're moving the goalposts and still not making sense

[elfin heron]

Also nothing wrong with not wanting to watch credits roll

But insulting them here is the issue here

[pseudo badger]

you are talking nonsense since the start, you dont even know the definition of empathy lol

[nova oar]

If you don't want to watch the credits fine but it's not bad game design

[pseudo badger]

it is, by not having a skip option

[elfin heron]

Didnt every single thing roll credits in the end anyway?

[timid vigil]

Its not that deep just enjoy the music and the storytelling of the credits, it's really good

[pseudo badger]

what storytelling? its the same 2 sec animation all the way

[nova oar]

All the constellations and characters in the background

[timid vigil]

it's not, a bunch of characters show up

[nova oar]

So peak

[timid vigil]

it's really well done

[pseudo badger]

im not talking about the post epilogue but the first credits

[timid vigil]

Once again I couldn't stop comparing it to the first game... god that credit sequence was so peak...

[pseudo badger]

its 4 characters on a flying horse cart for 10min straight

[smoky orchid]

Yeah. There's story being told in the background.

[nova oar]

We're talking about in the credits

[elfin heron]

I always watch credits just for the post credits scene lol

And the mini story in the credit itself

[smoky orchid]

You didn't notice it, but there is stuff happening. A lot of stuff

[pseudo badger]

i watched it for 30 secs and nobody showed up

[timid vigil]

When a game is good enough I will always watch the credits

[nova oar]

Yeah super tough to beat the boat ngl

[timid vigil]

Lowkey a memory I'll take to the grave

[nova oar]

Ong

[smoky orchid]

Hades 1 credits is something I'll never forget

[timid vigil]

F*ck I wanna play hades 1 again

[nova oar]

Hades 1 story and ending is still better

[smoky orchid]

I love Hades ii but the first one emotionally hits way better for me

Helped me process a lot of my issues with my own father

[nova oar]

I need my memory wiped so I can experience h1 just make the gameplay exactly like h2

[smoky orchid]

I think h1 is way harder ngl

[elfin heron]

If only we can experience things for first time twice

[smoky orchid]

I can comfortably do 32 fear

[nova oar]

H2 is easier yeah

[timid vigil]

Hades 2 is still the better game for me because I like the gameplay a lot more but I completely understand when people prefer h1 just cause the story is better

[smoky orchid]

Couldn't do over 16 heat

I love both hades games tho

[red fox]

getting help from your relative to beat up your father like zag did?

[nova oar]

I did 32 heat in H1, and now i've done 62f in H2

[elfin heron]

Tbh I find hades 2 story pretty good

[smoky orchid]

Nawr my dad is just emotionally stunted and hard to deal with

[elfin heron]

Though hades 2 story is bit complicated

[timid vigil]

it's good but h1 is leagues better

[pseudo badger]

Hades 1.was better imo overall

[nova oar]

Nah hades 2 gameplay is a lot better in almost every aspect

[timid vigil]

Yeah

[nova oar]

H1 just did the characters and story better

[pseudo badger]

I liked h1 more

More fun weapons

[nova oar]

That's fine

H1 weapons were alot less balanced tho

Some of them were just straight up bugged too

[timid vigil]

i really dont fw hades1 anymore, I did 32heat not too long ago cause I just never done before and at all times I just couldn't stop comparing it to h2 and just thinking how better things are in general in h2

[nova oar]

Yeah I can't go back

[elfin heron]

Aspect of hestia turns you into a sniper that one shots everyone

[red fox]

H1 boon are less exciting but their duo are more exciting (or game warping lol)

[hearty fog]

Stronger?

[nova oar]

H2 duos and legendaries aren't as run defining in h1

[elfin heron]

The fact they had to nerf some of the gods in hades 2 because they shreds way too much

[nova oar]

Which I like cause hinging a run on a duo/leg isn't the most fun thing

[hearty fog]

Hard agree, nothing will ever top Hunting Blades, Ice Wine, or Merciful End.

[timid vigil]

I believe this happened in H1 as well during the EA, I don't know for sure cause I didn't play H1 EA but probably

[nova oar]

Mirage shot beowulf

[hearty fog]

RIP Freak Accident, Lightning Rod doesn't even spawn with Abyssal Soul (as it shouldn't).

Oh yeah, you don't want Ice Wine with Beowulf, just Tipsy Shot.

[grim lance]

H2 boons tend to not have as high highs, but each new zone scales less quickly so that your runs aren't a grindy chore if you don't get any high damage increases

[timid vigil]

I don't even know builds in h1 cause I never got too much into it, I just picked divine dash every time and hoped for the best

[pseudo badger]

I also went back for a run but the dodge spam is so much better imo

[elfin heron]

Demeter as op as she always is

[timid vigil]

You mean having multiple dashes?

[pseudo badger]

Yea

[timid vigil]

I really dislike it, specially now

[nova oar]

I love the sprint so much more

It requires more strategy and isn't mindless spam

[timid vigil]

Omegaslop > Dashslop

[grim lance]

anything that makes me able to dash more is an instant skip because i don't want it getting stuck in my muscle memory

[nova oar]

H1 is alot more who can hit buttons the fastest

[elfin heron]

Also its somewhat easier to dodge due of how fast u go without having to spam dash

[pseudo badger]

Omega attacks are too slow

[elfin heron]

torch would beg to differ

[nova oar]

I think you're just bad dawg

[nova oar]

Real stutter step f*cks me up

[pseudo badger]

Yeah but thats part of the aa chain

[timid vigil]

Omegas are the best addition

[nova oar]

Adds so much diversity

[tropic ravine]

There’s an arcana card for that if you don’t have it on

[pseudo badger]

I do

[hearty fog]

I actually love Stutter Step, I lowkey think they did the same thing they did with Zag's runspeed in H1, your Dash cooldown is juuust a little too long.

[tropic ravine]

I played a run of hades 1 and the combat felt so basic

[pseudo badger]

Its not fun to use still due to cast times

[hearty fog]

Same way that I wish Zag's base runspeed was juuust a little faster.

[timid vigil]

I also prefer mel cast over zag's

I do miss nem sword...

[hearty fog]

Hunting Blades, maybe Crystal Clarity > Mel > The rest Zag's cast kit..

[elfin heron]

Also omega had alot of range so its basically a great way to deal with long distance

Which is kind of better than zagreus blood arrow

[nova oar]

Cast times are not that bad

[elfin heron]

Which is his usual main source of long range attack on melee

[elfin heron]

Also cast is mostly utility anyway

And one that allows offense cast doesnt even need omega cast

[timid vigil]

Wait are talking about cast or channeling omegas?

[elfin heron]

Sort of both

Omega cast are pretty slow to channel so its a niche use case

But it helps if it works

It does good enough damage

[timid vigil]

Omega cast is probably the worst one unless you build into it, the rest depends on the weapon of course

[nova oar]

Ocast I like on some weapons for speeds

[timid vigil]

That being said ocast builds are legit fun

[nova oar]

Ocast than my beloved

[pseudo badger]

Im used to faster combat in games, for me it feels bad to cast (-torch)

[nova oar]

They're not really slow at all some of my fastest runs use omegas

[timid vigil]

I kinda wanna do an ocast hostile environment supay run

[elfin heron]

Hephaetus cast is funny

You just hammer everything

[pseudo badger]

Staff attack cast is like 1-2sec

[nova oar]

[timid vigil]

You listed like the worst one

[pseudo badger]

That is slow for a game like this

[nova oar]

Staff doesn't really use omegas

[pseudo badger]

Well dagger attack is also terrible, same probably

[nova oar]

Mel blades doesn't use omegas either

[timid vigil]

I mean... Anubis ospecial

[pseudo badger]

Yes, because its terrible

[nova oar]

Try Artemis oattack and then come back

Mel blades are fine 😭

[timid vigil]

Try not using omegas playing morrigan

[nova oar]

I love anubis ospecial

[pseudo badger]

??

[tropic ravine]

I can never understand Anubis

I do 20 damage per attack

[pseudo badger]

Im talking about the omega attack on it, nobody uses it, because its bad

[timid vigil]

The lone shades thing is bait just use the attack to set the damage field then do special or ospecial

[pseudo badger]

And its bad because its slow

[nova oar]

I mean sweeping ambush Mel goes hard

[timid vigil]

Ospecial in Anubis is faster than regular staff ospecial

Don't use oattack

[nova oar]

You need flat damage like hestia or pos

[pseudo badger]

Like, if there are 4-5 aspects out of 24 that have viable omega attacks then its not really a good addition to the game imo

[nova oar]

But I like anubis oattack

[timid vigil]

Or you put blitz on the attack, set the field, and proc blitz with every special

Cause blitz is broken

[nova oar]

Let's see, momus, anubis, circe, Artemis, pan, morrigan, mel, eos, moros, supay, charon, than, nergal, persephone, hel, mel coat, selene coat, nyx coat, and shiva coat

[manic isle]

i wish there was a way you could bring nemesis into tartarus with you

[nova oar]

Blitz works on everything except charon

[timid vigil]

Its more than that

Specially if you're not doing higher fear you can do a lot of fun omega shenanigans

[red fox]

Even mel staff can be ospec spam at mid low fear without problem

[nova oar]

It's pretty Mel blades, medea, Mel axe, and Mel skulls

[timid vigil]

selene coat (if you hate yourself)*

[timid vigil]

Yeah it's pretty fun too

[nova oar]

Selene is in there

[timid vigil]

Go for the dream apollo legendary

Mel skull too you can do some funny things with oattack

[red fox]

Axe was joked for 3 different flavour of psychic whirlwind abuse

[timid vigil]

Sure high fear omegas in general become weaker but that's understandable

[timid vigil]

I know just wanted to add the warning

[manic isle]

aspect of thanatos is hella fun

[manic isle]

meant to reply to this

[timid vigil]

Than axe is awesome

[lofty marsh]

Just did a Pan run, absolutely hated it for 99% of the run. Did Poseidon special and the damage just wasn’t there. Until I got the Poseidon legendary in the shop before Typhon. He died in like 45 seconds, it was great.

[nova oar]

I really dislike mel and than axe

Which is crazy cause somehow my surface pb is on than

[manic isle]

ugh, i still need to beat typhoon enough times to unlock the ending

[timid vigil]

I am inclined to like scythes in every game cause scythes are awesome, and than solves my biggest issue with mel axe that is being very slow so I really love it

[nova oar]

My favourite than build is either stack Zeus or do an ocast build

[manic isle]

I like scythes in games, in real life I prefer more effective polearms like halberds or maybe a nice xiphos

[timid vigil]

I really wanted to try a meme build where I pick a common nimble limbs and rarify it using phial, then go for heph legendary and plasma

And make than axe as fast as blades

[pseudo badger]

Time to work on the epilogue but if there is one more credit scene i will crash out

[manic isle]

mfw I don't use god keepsakes other than to level them up

[nova oar]

There is a 13m cutscene

[pseudo badger]

Gonna drop a negative steam review if this is true

[red fox]

You pull out stopwatch for that?

[manic isle]

oh btw, do you unlock zag's sword or any of the infernal arms after the credits?

[nova oar]

Fr tho there is like a 2m epilogue cutscene thing

[pseudo badger]

2m is fine specially if there is sth going on

[nova oar]

Yeah it's like a little storyboard thing

[manic isle]

damn, guess I'm gonna have to mod them in so that I can play with the funny ricochet shield to bully chronos

[pseudo badger]

Thats ok, i just dont like name rolls

[manic isle]

i'm still never gonna get the pjo spelling of kronos out of my head

[nova oar]

We have Mel in h1 won't be long till zag is in h2

Zag in h2 would suck tho

[pseudo badger]

No root on cast will kill him

[lofty marsh]

But double dash

[manic isle]

I think he could be fun

[nova oar]

Yeah the shriekers and beyblades will get his ass

[manic isle]

optimal, yeah no, but fun, definitely

especially if we get to kick eris in the ass and get the adamant rail from her

[timid vigil]

Zag showing up to Typhon and realizing he's not build for that

[nova oar]

He should doom glory kill her and take his weapon back

[nova oar]

I feel like he would be mostly fine

There's just some enemies that would be a pain in the ass

[elfin heron]

Would be funny if we get to fight Mel at Hades 1

[zenith dome]

So since I can farm the surface should I do that for a bit?

[manic isle]

chat, should I take double power pom or auntie hestia and some armor

[manic isle]

aegis with heroic zeus special and some of his buff boons as well as the daedelus hammer that makes it bounce 4 extra times

[manic isle]

chronos fight

[timid vigil]

I hope eventually someone actually makes that mod, the mel in h1 mod is really fun

[manic isle]

(I'll win either way)

[nova oar]

My headcanon fever dream is 2 people, one playing h1, and 1 playing h2, they get to the end of their runs, get giving like 100k health, and have to fight each other, Mel vs zag

[elfin heron]

Hades pvp moment

[nova oar]

YESSSS

Ugh it would be so awesome

[pseudo badger]

btw was the chronos fight on the run before the ending the rivals chronos? cuz if yes then it was quite easy

[elfin heron]

I wonder how would that even work though

[timid vigil]

If zag could be rooted by mel cast it's over, bro will be destroyed

[nova oar]

No, just the phase 3 with infinite dd's

[manic isle]

I'm tempted to go with auntie bc first off, she's my fav god, and I have the chance to get her boon that makes your cast destroy projectiles

[red fox]

You have infinite dd ofc it is easy

[pseudo badger]

so its the same fight but i cant die?

[nova oar]

If it's even possible

[red fox]

And it is phase 3 only

[pseudo badger]

well, i didn't even use up one

[timid vigil]

Just the phase 3

[pseudo badger]

ah, okay

[timid vigil]

Actual rival Chronos has different stuff on phases 1 and 2

[nova oar]

Yeah the first 2 phases get changed

[pseudo badger]

thought it's like hades, where p1 and 2 are the same on EM, but you get p3

well still, p3 was ok

[elfin heron]

Mel gonna pull off the Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω Ω

[nova oar]

Although I think they made the scripted p3 a bit easier?

Idk i don't really remember

[elfin heron]

Imagine mandatory phase 3 without the infinite DD

[red fox]

Zag invulnerable 80% of time with multi dash tho

[elfin heron]

All that complicated attacks just for you facetank him to death

[timid vigil]

Now I really wanna see that fight

[nova oar]

I wish they did do that lowk

[red fox]

Idk its sounds pretty frustrating

[timid vigil]

Maybe... I don't remember clone and not even the triple scythe attack

[elfin heron]

Rival chronos phase 3 when

If Hades gets phase 3 why not chronos

[nova oar]

He does?

[nova oar]

Yeah i think they ditched the super annoying bits

[elfin heron]

I mean, you cant lose at all so dodging his attacks is pointless unless ur bored

[pseudo badger]

i got a bit stressed, cuz i picked a weapon i dont like and had a bad builld, then I saw P3 and I didn't know I have infinite DD lol

[elfin heron]

While Hades has phase 3 which is basically very hard

[pseudo badger]

i was also focusing on the get to the end with arachne armor achi, so I gave up my build for that

[elfin heron]

Since u cant see anything at all and he gets more aggresive

[red fox]

Well if you pick rival yourself you don't have infinite dd

[nova oar]

Takes all the fun out of the ending however it would've killed alot of people

[elfin heron]

I have yet to get to rival chronos yet so I cant really tell

[pseudo badger]

i say let them fall

[elfin heron]

Mel casually getting the plot armor

She wants him dead so bad that she throws dying out of the window

I imagine it would be insanely difficult though

He went all over the place and the attack is really hard to dodge

[pseudo badger]

how does this game solve us re-running after the ending? cuz chronos is friendly now and typhon is supposedly gone?

[nova oar]

Ik for a fact that if it wasn't like that and you died you would rage

[nova oar]

You'll find out

[elfin heron]

Theres a explaination for it but its a heavy spoilers

[pseudo badger]

i dont think anything can make me rage anymore after doing all from games sl1

[elfin heron]

They know most players gonna ragequit since they cant win at all so they just let them win

I imagine it will take a bit to beat phase 3 legitmately

That attack pattern is absolutely insane

I got hit like 40 times

[pseudo badger]

what made me rage tho is that i took the staff to get a nightmare on hecate and then chronos took her away

[nova oar]

I mean i was alr running rivals chronos by the time I did that so idk

[pseudo badger]

[elfin heron]

Trolling

[pseudo badger]

fr

[elfin heron]

The phase is the same but without the infinite deaths right?

[nova oar]

It's harder, I think

He doesn't use some of his bs moves

In the true ending fight

[elfin heron]

Which one?

[nova oar]

Triple scythe throw and chlonos afaik

[zenith dome]

Alright I know have a goal.. KILL THE GIRL WITH THE GUN

Sorry Chronos but you're now NOT my objective

Moro's you're sister is dead

like that when she comes back to life shes falling on a spike right into her left eye and right knee cap

[elfin heron]

The fact Mel does actually say "screw going for olympus im going for you instead"

[zenith dome]

Hey Nyx... GET YOUR DAUGHTER IN LINE OR YOU'RE NEXT

Where do I get G-rock btw

[nova oar]

Fields

[zenith dome]

so upper level?

[elfin heron]

Underworld

[nova oar]

Uw

[zenith dome]

oh my hera

[twilit ice]

Hi!

i got some issue with how slow the nectar gathering is. is it worth it to do some sacrificial run to farm it?

the recipe for nectar just doesn't want to drop

it feel like im lacking far behind that when im getting closer to the endgame

[nova oar]

Don't you get the nectar recipe from aphro?

[twilit ice]

i just never got it

i have like , a bajilion golden apple

[nova oar]

😭

[twilit ice]

im BEGGING for her to give it to me

i got lovers to collect damnit

[nova oar]

No clue what the prerequisites are

[tropic ravine]

Maybe you need to gift her stuff?

[tropic ravine]

Nooo don’t threaten the goat Moros

[timid vigil]

according to the wiki (could be wrong) you need to

• Talk to Aphrodite while having at least 1 Golden Apple in your inventory and having killed Eris at least once in the last 3 runs.
• Reaching at least 1 Heart with Aphrodite by gifting her Nectar and obtaining the Beautiful Mirror Keepsake. This triggers a unique interaction during a later meeting, where Aphrodite grants the Sweet Nectar recipe directly.

you probably just have other dialogues with more priority idk

[nova oar]

Should be smth like that anyway

[rare wedge]

Merry Christmas Eve. Do we know if there is a planned PS5 release?

[hardy depot]

That's correct, also double checked it when they posted the same question to the subreddit earlier today

[timid vigil]

No but eventually they will launch it, no reason not to

maybe sometime next year? probably

[red fox]

Probably next year

[nova oar]

Probably around November next year at the earliest

[red fox]

Console exclusive for switch for 1 year

[rare wedge]

Damn i want to play so bad lol. I have a laptop but im not sure if it would run well on there

[nova oar]

H2 is pretty well optimised

[timid vigil]

you should try, if it doesnt work steam can refund you pretty easily as long as you play < 2 hours

[manic isle]

I love doom pin bc I like letting moros see what I'm doing

[timid vigil]

but its not difficult to run at all, unless your laptop is really old it should work fine

[manic isle]

the fact that circe's size change boons are reflected even in dialogue is awesome to me, also makes for some funny images

[timid vigil]

Just the other day I got || zag || dialogue reacting to gigant size mel it's so funny

[manic isle]

lol

[twilit ice]

i have the aphrodite miror!

[lime crest]

hey folks

about the chaos 120sec boon, i have questions

is it 120 for each room, or 120 for ALL of them?

120 for each seems like waaaaay too much

[calm flicker]

You're given 120s to clear a room. It's very generous time barring Unrivaled Hecate.

[pseudo badger]

Is this for the one at the broker?

Or there is an other recipe

[jolly hound]

120 seconds to clear x encounters. Once I got screwed by nemesis skipping an encounter and timed out vs Scylla. Felt bad man

[timid vigil]

Recipe on cauldron

[low wharf]

@elfin heron Just dropping by to say I commend you for being such a nice and civilized person in an earlier exchange that was made here. Keep up the great attitude

I'd also like to remind people of rule #1 Be courteous:

This is an international community whose common ground is an interest in our games. As a member of this community, we expect you to contribute to an environment where everyone feels welcome and included. This means being constructive and not getting personal.

Appropriate conduct here also requires restraint, and letting other voices be heard.

Whether you disagree with someone or think their opinion is valid or not, please stay respectful. It's frowned upon to make fun of or be condescending towards others because they have a different opinion/stance than you do. You can disagree and express your own stance without resorting to a bad attitude.

Anyways, that is all. Happy Holidays

[nimble rivet]

Happy holidays ❤️

[cosmic cape]

Whats yalls favorite song from this game?

[jolly hound]

Coral crown. #2 on Spotify wrapped this year and i didn’t start til September lol. I also listen to the first ten seconds of the chronos fight regularly

[lime crest]

for pets/companions

when you upgrade them with gift and can pick between 3 options

are the other 2 just innately and you can buff one of them

or do you pick and its just that one for the entire run

[red fox]

Each option can be upgrade 3 times

[hardy depot]

Each of those buffs are active while that familiar is with you, all of the upgrades are permanent

[red fox]

You are just picking which to upgrade

[nimble rivet]

Olympus Aflame or Rock and a Hard Place

[lime crest]

ah got it tyty guys

[cosmic cape]

Same on Olympus Aflame

[nimble rivet]

Actually Wrath of the Heavens is also a fave

[jolly hound]

I’m basic

[elfin heron]

Thanks

[timid vigil]

olympus aflame

[cunning delta]

I’ve been listening to song of isles and rock and a hard place a lot… but it was Olympus aflame before that

[weary moon]

bewitching eyes/time belongs to us

[zenith dome]

so been to the fields 5 times and zero stone..

[manic isle]

I'm gonna claw

[manic isle]

Ik, it feels like some of the resource spawn rates are way too low, like, I get almost no shaderot bc it only spawns occasionally in tartarus, and I am always desperate for glassrock

[zenith dome]

I need stone to unlock my next weapon..

[manic isle]

Yeah, I was stuck waiting on that one for a while too

It's also annoying that they don't tell you how to get rubbish

[crude dragon]

Rock and a Hard Place, The Risen Fleet, or Olympus Aflame

[manic isle]

What I wouldn't give to have moros' sword irl

Although if I were going to use it for combat, I would have to add a better cross guard

Bc that thing offers no hand protection

[opal garnet]

Coral crown is so peak.

[weary moon]

games with some level of noticeable difficulty by default always have some sort of discussion about the use of an "easy mode"

but i havent heard it from the perspective of hades players

what do you guys think about god mode users

[crude dragon]

Yeah, his needle's kinda like those guard-less katanas

[crude dragon]

As long as you're not using it for speedruns or to do a max Fear run, I do not care

[weary moon]

wouldnt there be a speedrun category that allows godmode

(im not big on speedrunning)

[buoyant matrix]

no, it's completely disallowed on speedrun.com

[weary moon]

oh i see i see

makes sense eitherway

[buoyant matrix]

godmode is for the casual players who want to experience the story and enjoy the art and aesthetic

[crude dragon]

Or just for people who need practice with the fundamentals, TBH

I know I used God Mode back in the first game before I finally got comfortable enough to turn it off

[weary moon]

i got my cheeks handed to me in h1 compared to h2

no idea why i never thought to turn god mode on

[opal garnet]

Same

[jolly hound]

either ego or cause you didn’t know it was there

[weary moon]

3rd option
monkey_with_finger_in_mouth_clueless.jpg

[elfin heron]

Tbh god mode is good for practice while still having it challenging

Since godmode is still not a free win

You still need to try, just that u dont die as fast

[buoyant matrix]

now that you can limit it i can kinda see it being used for practice

i forget that limiting it is a thing now

[elfin heron]

You still die relatively fast with 80% godmode for some reason

But atleast you dont die in one hit from chronos sycthe

[buoyant matrix]

you do not die fast with 80% damage reduction, maybe you've become too used to facetanking everything?

[jolly hound]

Strength arcana is 20 p damage resistance which is kinda like god mode

[buoyant matrix]

also doesn't chronos scythe deal like 20 damage without pain 😭

[elfin heron]

Theres not really a reason to facetank everything when you are tankier when u minimize hits

[jolly hound]

what if you do max god mode with pain 3 and strength is it just a wash

[elfin heron]

I wonder if u can do revenge hits only run with enough damage reduction

[twilit ice]

can you give "too much" nectar? or is it capped ?

[elfin heron]

Winning by doing absolutely nothing is truly a build of all time

[buoyant matrix]

mynt did afk wins against 32 fear chronos and 0 fear typhon back in early access

[crude dragon]

There was someone who did so back in Warsong

It's also worth noting that the Chronos kill was with White Antler

[manic isle]

I play with godmode on, but currently have it capped at 60, and am working down off of it

I use it mostly as training wheels

[crude dragon]

There are caps, yes

[elfin heron]

I forgot I have godmode on sometimes

[twilit ice]

so i can just give forever it wont be a waste?

[manic isle]

Annoying that you can't keep going on dates with your partners to the hotsprings and such

[crude dragon]

You'll eventually just stop being able to give them gifts

[jolly hound]

They’ll cut you off when you’ve hit max

[elfin heron]

Me casually gifting Heracles over and over till he had enough

[manic isle]

Also, Merry Christmas to those who celebrate

[crude dragon]

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

[manic isle]

starts giving him bath salts instead

[elfin heron]

[manic isle]

also asks auntie hestia to be kinder to him, as well as the other god(dess)s

Im still annoyed you can't bring nemesis down into tartarus with you

[crude dragon]

||Well...||

[manic isle]

Like, let me do an incantation that lets her return to shadow if she's about to be seriously harmed, and then let's go violate chronos with the buisiness end of our weapons

[crude dragon]

Actually, I think she eventually just starts ||taking the hole Cerby uses||

[manic isle]

That makes sense actually

Tbh i wish chronos would just ||open the door||, i mean, he knows we're gonna get in regardless, why bother making us go through the sewer, you act like you're so high and mighty but you can't even bother to be polite

[elfin heron]

I mean, I doubt he gonna be polite to what he assumed to be a "spoiled child"

[wide wigeon]

he petty like that lmao

[fast vortex]

omg im so screwed, i set my dash keybind to shift when I first started playing hades 2 and its too muscle memory to switch

i've just gotten off of like 6 hours of 55 fear runs w/charon axe and my pinky is in genuine pain

not evolved for this much button mashing

[buoyant matrix]

space is best

[fast vortex]

yeah, i have that on interact tho and idk if I can swtich so easily

for some reason also I cant bind it to m4 when m5 & 3 work

i have those two on hex and cast

[calm sorrel]

As it turns out

Lv 58 heroic heaven strike is kinda broken lmao

Having a 100% double strike didn’t hurt either

[calm flicker]

Huh. Does Grave Thirst target remaining weapons with Bearing Dark Gifts (win with all weapons) quest?

Or did I just hit 3 weapons in a row?

[thin laurel]

idt it does, it's pretty random beyond not targeting the same weapon twice in a row (or the one you last cleared with I think...?)

idk the details of how grave thirst works but ik it often doesn't target what you want lol

[calm flicker]

Guess it was just a 3-in-a-row coincidence.

[thin laurel]

yeah! pretty good luck

some people have bad luck and it bounces between the same two weapons over and over again or something

[buoyant matrix]

you just hit 3 weapons in a row

grave thirst is an equal 20% chance on the weapons you didn't use last run

[calm flicker]

There's... 6 weapons?

...Isn't there...?

[buoyant matrix]

yes

you used one last run, grave thirst can't hit that, leaves 5 weapons

[calm flicker]

Right... Silly me.

Well, I had 4 Aspects left to finish a run with each on a different weapon. Guess it wasn't that unlikely to hit 3 in a row.

[outer valve]

regarding the haunted by the past quest, can i use the chaos trials to talk to ||prometheus||?

[tall notch]

is there any ambiguity between what the game means by 'attacks' or 'specials'?

in some places 'attacks' means both the regular attack anf Omega attack

but some places it can mean only the regular attack

[red fox]

Attacks including omega

Attack don't include omega

S or no s

[buoyant matrix]

if it's attackS as in plural it's both
if it's attack as in singular it's just base attack

[red fox]

Thats the difference lol

[tall notch]

very minute

do the tips or the small panels to the side ever explain this?

[buoyant matrix]

attacks mention it affects both base and omega
attack says it affects your base

it's explained but not very well 😛

[tall notch]

and 'strikes' means everything right?

[buoyant matrix]

yep, all attacks and specials

[slim pike]

But not cast

And sometimes attack means dash strike, sometimes it does not

[nimble rivet]

Rivals Eris Frenzy 2 is so unfair

[buoyant matrix]

yeah

everyone says "unrivaled eris lowkey kinda easier than base" until they turn frenzy on

then they realize why it's worth three fear 😨

[hollow lily]

Who tf says that

Rivaled eris still beats my ass on the regular making me lose 2DDs

[broken creek]

even with frenzy on its easier than base icl

[hollow lily]

💀

[broken creek]

base eris just feels really slow and unintuitive, rivals just feels slow

[buoyant matrix]

people regularly say it here

[hollow lily]

Maybe I'm tripping dawg

Both rivaled eris and promotheus beat my ass

[broken creek]

rivals eris also spends like half the fight not even on screen so idk, shes more of a nuisance than anything else

[hollow lily]

I hate her so much

[nimble rivet]

Was Chiron intended to be in the game originally?

Chiron is the only one that has appeared on the Arcana cards and not appeared in both Hades and Hades II

[nimble rivet]

Rivals Eris is channeling the energy of a 2009 CoD player crossmapping with a sniper

If Hades II was M rated then Eris would definitely drop a (fictional) slur

[hollow lily]

We already have racial slurs for meli, time we make some for eris

[buoyant matrix]

yes, for precisely that reason we expected him to be added in the 1.0 update but he wasn't

[nimble rivet]

RIVALS ERIS FRENZY 2 IS SO BAD

[tropic ravine]

I see your point

[split flume]

I would assume eris carrying ACTUAL SATAN'S M16 would be more of a problem than usual

Even more so when she's on speed

[tropic ravine]

If only you could get like 100% damage so easily like that on the first game

With that weapon

[hallow vault]

What i think is weird that there isnt a Single song sung by Darren in the soundtrack

[buoyant matrix]

coaches don't play

[hallow vault]

Usually he Always Sung one himself

[limpid oar]

he did sing in the previous games though so that-- what Julian said

[hallow vault]

I guess bro was too busy Cooking hard

[buoyant matrix]

yeah and he cooked so hard he became the CEO of music

[hallow vault]

Yeah he always did

Bro made we all become one and Build that Wall and In the blood

[pseudo steeple]

Is the rank 6 premium service upgrade permanent?

Or does it only last one night?

Would you guys agree with this teir list https://mobalytics.gg/hades-2/tier-lists/weapon-aspects ?

[broken creek]

umm i would if like half the weapons in C didnt already clear 67f

weapon listing like that doesnt matter in the slightest until like super high fear and even then everything has cleared 62

[pseudo steeple]

I played hades 1

I forgot a lot of it. But does this game actually have an "end"? Like do you end up stopping chronos?

Or is it just keep killing chronos and the big monster over and over?

Because I'm on like fear 8 and it's gotten to the boring point

[broken creek]

yes and no

[limpid oar]

i think the best thing to use tierlists for is sharing your personal preferences, trying to make one "objectively" is kinda silly (at least for this game)

[pseudo steeple]

I remember you eventually reveal the whole "story" and that's the "end"

[broken creek]

have you hit credits?? since if you havent hit credits or epilogue you still got more to do

[pseudo steeple]

I haven't brewed all the things in the cauldron yet, not even the thing that stops chronos apparently

[pseudo steeple]

I have not.

[broken creek]

then do that, they fixed the ending for 1.1 actually, and after you do credits you get access to fates whim which is very very strong and fun

[loud moth]

just got hades 2 for myself this steam sale yay lets go bisexuals

[pseudo steeple]

This game makes me sad

[neon barn]

why?

[pseudo steeple]

melinoe and icarus

my gf has been extremely distant lately. This just reminded me of that

[nimble rivet]

One night, aye

[pallid cradle]

Uh oh

[noble sapphire]

wide grin + nova strike revaal is so funny. like i can't even aim far enough to stop these gigantic aoes from overlapping

"I think I'll just hit the whole map how's that sound"

I feel like an MMO raid boss covering this much of the arena

Prometheus: "Block my flame add that has to be placed where you won't be going in the arena"
Melinoe: "Block my necroatomic bomb"

[dire coyote]

i have a suggestion for the Devs on Hades 3 antagonist

it should be Chaos

[dull tendon]

What if it was Atlas and he let the sky crash down

[noble sapphire]

Chaos just has such a crashout that they're like "Welp, we're startin' over."

Actually, I have a pipe dream of a Hades 3 where some of the other gods represented by hidden Aspects appear

and "The world is melting b/c Chaos wants to start over, so the boundaries between time and space are dissolving leading to the appearance of other mythologies" seems like a cool way to do it that doesn't step on God of War's toes?

the discourse generated by having Lucifer himself appear would probably be nuclear levels of sour

[abstract depot]

Up to PromeCles on 40f

And i trolled oops

[timid vigil]

It's even funnier with bolstered array

[nimble rivet]

Shotgun build

[nimble rivet]

Is that the pick up skull o attack

[storm glen]

so real

[shrewd silo]

Lucifer would be awesome

[west matrix]

The coolest and funniest way Supergiant could handle us wishing to spend more time at Olympus and the House of Hades after we’ve finished the main storyline of Hades 2 imo would to release a “House of Hades Simulator” where you’re Hades and his crew of administrative shades trying to budget/resource balance the rebuilding of the House, with an alt Olympus route. What do yall think lol

[cunning laurel]

definitely a twist

[tacit sequoia]

Merry Christmas everyone

[shrewd silo]

I just wanted to meet all the Olympians and reunite with Achilles Orpheus meg and Thanatos

[merry echo]

I just checked the hades desk mat it looks cool

[dull tendon]

What if we could use Night Bloom during Zag fight to revive Theseus and Asterius

[subtle shoal]

i'd love a Hades underworld management simulator

esp on mobile

[merry echo]

Asterius would hit theseus like a truck

[pseudo badger]

if I get 4 god blessings i nregion 1 and equip a 5. keepsake then I cant get their boons right?

[gusty maple]

It will add this god to your god pool once you take the boon

From my experience at least, but I'm quite sure it works like that

[noble sapphire]

Funny Little Guy Management

I could never get mad at the Shades

Okay maybe I could get mad at the Shades but I could never get mad at Dusa

Do you think Hades ever just puts the Shades in the Shade Wiggler
Like, they can't die in a traditional sense, maybe they could be obliterated, but they can definitely have a worse time

[timid vigil]

It's +2 shells

[nimble rivet]

ah

still pretty broken

[potent current]

i love holidays but when religion is involved i hate them

Merry Christmas yall

[nimble rivet]

i know they're balanced around the game but who would be stronger?
zagreus with melinoe's boons? or melinoe with zagreus' boons?

[potent current]

||they litterally 1v1 and Zagreus doesnt have boons`||

depends on how skilled you are

[nimble rivet]

true...

[timid vigil]

Zag picking up any boon that mentions an omega and going "wtf is an omega"

[nimble rivet]

lmao

i think zag takes this due to how agile he is

[potent current]

Mel is agile too

[nimble rivet]

i haven't played h1 in a long time so don't remember all of the boons so really can't tell much

[pallid cradle]

Like that Fallout game?

Fallout Shelters or whatever it's called.

[honest kindle]

merry christmas to all ❤️

[noble sapphire]

It's really funny to me when a god boon, or especially a Selene boon, pops up at the same time a Hermes delivery does
Selene: "my little star, i-"
Hermes: "HI MEL [drops off an item] BYE MEL"
Selene: "ok as I was saying"

[nimble rivet]

HOW DID I EVER BEAT RIVALS ERIS IN THE FIRST PLACE

FRENZY 2 RIVALS ERIS IS IMPOSSIBLE

I CAN'T DODGE ANYTHING

I've had enough, I'm pulling out the JPom gambling setup

BLESS ME, MATRIM CAUTHON! BLESS ME, HAKARI KINJI!

[noble sapphire]

Eris: "I can cause problems THREE TIMES AS FAST"

Eris the (Speed of) Lightbringer

[jolly hound]

Frenzy 2 Eris is arguably the biggest difficulty spike of any frenzy boss *rivals 4 notwithstanding

[split flume]

Love it when it won't click the anti poison pot when poly is speed blitzing me

[broken creek]

Bro doesnt know abt rivals scylla or gramps

[tribal wharf]

Is there anything I should be saving fish for or can I safely just sell them all to the Broker as I find them?

[broken creek]

Eris biggest opp is standing behind her

[broken creek]

Just sell as you get them, holding em doesnt have any value unless you just like looking at them

[nimble rivet]

flashback to when i beat r4 chronos with mild difficulty

[jolly hound]

With or without frenzy 2?

[nimble rivet]

with

it was really fun

i was so locked in omfg i don't think i'd be able to beat him in another million years with frenzy 2

[pseudo badger]

i have to run pig keepsake for 1 region in my UW runs until i get a win for all arcanas

[crude dragon]

Region 1 pig and then shrimply hit Judgement

[calm flicker]

I do wish we could see ||Asterius & Theseus making a cameo. I wanna see them kiss & talk about their private escapades||.

[quartz walrus]

if you use phial with no commons what happens

[cursive nacelle]

No effect just the extra healing. Dont think it consumes the charge so if you find a common boon and a fountain later you should be able to use phial on it

[crude dragon]

Yeah, it won't consume the charge until you rarify something

[calm flicker]

Man, all the hidden aspects feel really good to use. I only really like Aspect of Lucifer in Hades 1.

[split shuttle]

hit jackpot next run on my life

[glossy shadow]

Does not consume the charge, you can carry it to a mid biome fountain if one spawns, you can use it at the next post-boss station before you switch keepsakes, but if you switch you lose the charge

[hazy parrot]

in hades,
i liked arthur a lot, it became my main sword aspect
gilgamesh was cool to use as a one off dash build thing
lucifer i liked, but to me it was overshadowed by eris
didnt really like rama
didnt use cast builds much so i didnt use beowulf
hated guan yu

in hades 2,
i love anubis its so fun to play. my fav staff
i love morrigan it is extremely fun and cool. fav daggers in terms of fun
supay is a really cool concept and ive had some p powerful builds w it
not a big nergal guy, id rather play thanatos
hel i just dont like that much
shiva i dont like that much either

in conclusion, i do think the hidden aspects are much better done in the second game

[calm flicker]

Agreed.

I think Anubis & Hel are really cool, but they conflict with the Night Arcana.

Kind of.

[potent current]

Nergal and Arthur plays similar, interestin

[hazy parrot]

lmao ive been told this by my friends. but nergal is just overshadowed by thanatos for me. i have used nergal and found it p fun, though

[quartz walrus]

nergal feels bad to play imo

[regal patio]

hi! I did the return to real possibility, and after beating again the game and see the new ending, I want to come back to my story (when I did it i already did the true ending, so I know everything about Hecate and stuff). How can I do this? thanks!

[hazy parrot]

return to a real possibility is irreversible. so you just have to keep playing on that savefile to match the progress youd made earlier

[crude dragon]

Anubis works fine with Night, it's Hel that's tricky

[split shuttle]

hel has an omega attack?

[grim hearth]

just finished the game and was wondering if i can still do the romances in the post game

[crude dragon]

Yeah, but you have to fire 3 uninterrupted bursts to see it

[crude dragon]

You can, yes

[grim hearth]

yippee

w game

[regal patio]

thanks

[hazy parrot]

last i checked, no

[split shuttle]

yeah ik but it doesn't exist in my headcanon

who actually uses hel omega attack in the big 2025 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔

[quartz walrus]

what are some tips on the rivals sirens?
theres so many projectiles I can never attack

[split shuttle]

demeters gales especially frigid rush cheese the projectiles so hard

[broken creek]

Biggest thing is gonna be priority on who to kill

There's 1 of 2 ways to go about it, either you rush the hell out of Roxy or be a bit slower and catch scylla on the bottom right tentacle and slowly work your way up

Either way you dont want to overcommit being on the top or bottom of the arena too heavy since a Roxy wave will be super disruptive

[honest kindle]

1 room away from having my arachne suit against chronos :((((

[graceful dune]

Came here to say Merry Christmas!

[abstract depot]

Ok so why is it next to impossible to preserve health with the close-range aspects

Give me flames
Give me fire
Give me Torches or i retire

[cunning laurel]

part of the challenge is knowing when its safe

[abstract depot]

Tbh i’m really greedy at the start of rooms, using any omegas usually gets me hit

if i stop doing that i’d likely just get hit less, but once i run scars 3 its imperative i don’t play like a buffoon xd

[cunning laurel]

what aspects specifically do you mean

[formal kindle]

Is hades 2 a sequal to mario party 4

[abstract depot]

Coats, Blades, and Axes mainly

Torches make most runs super free even at high-mid fear

But doing anything melee is suffering because i start burning dds on hecate when i have literally no problem thrashing her with torches

[formal kindle]

Did you try to play as luigi

[cunning laurel]

coats and blades have safe ways to break armor and start to hitstun, axe is tougher tho

nyx specifically i rarely am melee or pressing attack even

[abstract depot]

maybe i’m being way too aggressive, shiva feels super annoying to hit and run with because you can get overloaded with projectiles

from mobs

[crude dragon]

Kill the two tentacles next to Roxy, then focus her down like you do in the normal fight

[abstract depot]

Now i’m playing way too slow cause vow of time beat me up

[broken creek]

Axes is very hammer dependant, coat is just weird icl you either love or hate it, and knives idek how people make it work without tk

[abstract depot]

tk?

[broken creek]

Trick knives

[formal kindle]

Coat is awesome

I dont see how people hate it

[abstract depot]

the damage on coat is amazing but i cannot work with how close quarters it can be

[broken creek]

I hate it personally lol, it just feels like a wet noodle and too slippery

[abstract depot]

if you wanna deal good damage anyway

[crude dragon]

The attacks (both base and omega) feel really bad on the base Coats

[broken creek]

And ik im not building it wrong it just feels weak mostly cuz I dont get the rhythm compared to staff

[formal kindle]

The damage doesnt matter when the weapon looks that awesome

(Joke)

[broken creek]

I think mel and Shiva coat both have cleared 67?? So if you wanna see how its played at top level those runs exist

[formal kindle]

Why dont you have the exact same opinons as me? Is that possible?

[broken creek]

Mel knives and axe both have too

[formal kindle]

Can someone disagree with me?

I gotta look that up on wikipedia

[broken creek]

Thought we were all a hivemind or something frfr

[formal kindle]

True!!!!!

I hate the axe and torches secret aspects

I guess i hate the torches one more

[elfin heron]

I think all aspects had been used to beat max fear

But some are probably so awful its not worth it

[crude dragon]

All aspects have a 62F clear, but not everyone has a 67F

[broken creek]

Yeah not even half have 67s iirc

Every mel aspect has, medea, persephone, shiva are the ones I remember off the top of my head

[quartz walrus]

how does aspect of persephone work
it says it gives your things levels but it never seems to

[graceful dune]

Skull dominance is real

[pseudo badger]

would be nice lol

[broken creek]

Its a chance to give boons a range of levels based on the aspect rank iirc

[crude dragon]

It's not guaranteed to give you bonus levels on your boons (and the odds aren't great)

[floral quest]

too bad I can not post screenshots here :(

I would like to ask about all the minor prophecies and how to complete them

50 clears out of 144 and I think I'd win 99% of 0 fear runs. I am starting to feel like I might go for higher diff later

[oblique hemlock]

you can send it in a dm or private server and paste the link here

[silent raven]

Is hades 1 or 2 easier and more beginner friendly?

[floral quest]

No :D I'd say both are, eqally but have different playstyles

maybe 2 a little more beginner friendly

[quartz walrus]

1 has a lower skill ceiling but higher skill floor, the mechanics are simpler
2 has a higher skill ceiling but lower floor, its mechanics are generally more complex

[cunning laurel]

you can pick up either one and do fine

[floral quest]

Is there nowhere I can see how many out of all minor prophecies I have unlocked? ;-;

Anyways, I have unlocked 85 minor prophecies so far

[silent raven]

Does 2 have more replay value?

[floral quest]

to me even more than hades 1, yes

Still going strong after 120 hours

[thin laurel]

depends why you're playing the game!
I'd say yes, the gameplay is more rich and the balance is better so there are a ton of viable builds, plus there's more total variation in what a run looks like
if you're playing them for story voice acting and such with a side of roguelike gameplay they're about the same

[cunning laurel]

in 1 lots of things were genuinely bad and unfun to use, theres lots more variety fun in 2

[thin laurel]

but I'm quite addicted to this game, I just broke 700 hours on steam lol (although I've been playing since early access and have had more time than 1.0 players)

so uh. I'd say it has replayability for sure.
altho also WAY more so if you like high difficulty and/or speedrun stuff

[honest kindle]

700 is insaneeee

[silent raven]

In hades 2 does every death make you stronger? I assume you also learn the game as you die more

[quartz walrus]

to a point
your arcana cards can upgrade and unlock

[honest kindle]

yes, bit differently than H1

[crude dragon]

Hades 2 takes a lot of mechanics from the first game and iterates further on them, so I'd recommended starting with the first game and then playing the sequel

[crude dragon]

If you're grabbing meta-progression resources as they show up, yes

[silver mantle]

I got a 3D printed Lim and Oros from my wife for Xmas

[turbid bough]

Anyone know if changing the hammer =-1 to hammer = 1 is supposed to work or not? Trying to make it so I can reroll hammers

[thin laurel]

unsure what you're asking
you mean the anvil? remove 1 random hammer and gain 2 random hammer upgrades, which can appear in region 4 shops?

[turbid bough]

No there’s a thing you can change in the code to make it so you can re roll hammers without getting mods. Don’t think it works anymore though

[pulsar rose]

i got hades 2 today, i already have 8 hours gameplay on it. this is so peak

[thin laurel]

oh, yeah no idea, I don't dig in the code
tbh I don't think most people here do, you might have better luck asking on the mods discord or the speedrun discord

[hollow latch]

What does the little symbol that looks like a contract on top of the store symbol mean?

[honest kindle]

zag's contract

[hollow latch]

Wut?

I have reached the underworld once and rescued ppl

But I don't know about the contract yet

Should I just go in? I do have a door for a mini boss with hestia boon, though, considering taking the other one

[red fox]

Going in is fine

[honest kindle]

I am not sure what you mean then, but yeah go in, one way to find out

[red fox]

You need to interact with the contract to do anything

[hollow latch]

oh, ok, I'll check it, I guess

[sturdy magnet]

I always give Cerberus so many pets when visiting Hades

[pseudo badger]

when a boon says your attacks/specials do more dmg, it applies to omega and normal as well? or only normal

[timid vigil]

If it says attack (singular) it doesn't apply to omega

If it says attacks (plural) it does

[pseudo badger]

so none of the god boons are good for omega then?

considering you can only have 1 boon per slot for the main ones

[crude dragon]

No? All %-based attack boons affect both your normal and Omega

[pseudo badger]

ah ,it is plural, my bad

[crude dragon]

There are some other boons that aren't, like Heph infusion or the Huntress card only being base Attack and Special, but still

Or the near-irredeemable garbage that is Reckless Abandon

[pseudo badger]

what would be the easiest 32 fear for UW? i think maxing out time is quite easy, vow of hubris on a normal attack build is also free, forfeit, return, wards and shadow also seem easy? what else is there

[red fox]

Well you need some real fear for 32

Free fear alone isn't enough now

Forfeit ward return + time 3 isn't really easy tho

Denial is almost free

[pseudo badger]

yea

[red fox]

Fang is acceptable

[pseudo badger]

i feel like ward as well on sth like daggers

[red fox]

Vor up to 3 is manageable

Menace is mostly free

[inner arrow]

I used to hate the staff but after trying Circe, it’s actually ok

I know I’m not saying anything new it’s just fun to know I have another weapon I can beat the game with

[pseudo badger]

staff is my least fav as well i would say

dagger>torch>skull>coat>axe/staff

[terse gull]

The game didn’t become fun for me until I unlocked the daggers ngl

Staff sucks (at least at first, I’ll come back to it later. Or not.)

[crude dragon]

Frenzy and Rivals are both things you're going to need to start looking into

[pseudo badger]

rivals sure, but i think frenzy can be avoided quite easily for 32, no?

[crude dragon]

Sure, if you want to take some more BS ones like Grit or Pain in its stead

[storm glen]

rivals is more easily avoidable than frenzy

[pseudo badger]

grit seems easier to me than frenzy

[crude dragon]

Frenzy can at least be learned, you can't learn to take less damage or deal more

[pseudo badger]

yeah, but its the same thing as base game, just takes more time to clear

and base is quite easy to manage

[crude dragon]

Besides, the longer you take to adjust to the new timings, the harder it'll get

[pseudo badger]

tho i guess its only needed for UW, so should be fine even with frenzy

dont think anything other than chronos would cause an issue with it

[crude dragon]

This man is about to get sheeped

[pseudo badger]

i do it without frenzy, i have practice

[fair stone]

Is it normal for my two bathing conversations with Dora to be exactly the same?

[stark gull]

haha if you choose Heph over Hera in a Trial of the Gods, she calls him swarthy

Like lady he is much lighter skinned than you 😂

[barren ember]

Had to choose between hepheastus and Hestia. Hepheastus may be the goat, but I'll never choose against meemaw Hestia

[graceful dune]

Hepbestus or Bestia

[sturdy magnet]

Has anyone ever done a ranking/tier list on Hades 1 + 2 character designs

[pseudo badger]

I did

S tier: meg and nemesis
Below: everyone else

[sturdy magnet]

Wow

[graceful dune]

S Tier: Every hot person
Below: Typhon (Rivals)

[elfin heron]

Typhon tongue casually being a simple angry snake is funny

[full wing]

If E33 didn't come out this year, we'd have had Scylla and the sirens at the game awards.

[crude dragon]

Still would have had Skong to compete with

[full wing]

Scylla woulda reached the major leagues...

Might have seen her real happy for once.

[timid vigil]

That would have been cool

That being said all I want is an orchestral recording of Olympus aflame

They did it for mountain of the gods

[storm glen]

hades 2 mogs silksong

[solar pollen]

i have no idea where i should ask this but how come i can’t post media in any channel? (besides the victory boasting for h2 i posted a screenshot). i click the button but everything but “apps” is greyed out

[nimble rivet]

Finally

After countless runs I have beat Frenzy 2 rivals eris

[red fox]

Because mod disabled it

[crude dragon]

Incorrect

[gaunt glacier]

Fresh File fun

[neon turtle]

For the ||narcissus and echo bond quest, just I skip over narcissus one time? He’s been complaining about the water|| like 3 times already

[hardy depot]

||There's at least two points you need to skip Narcissus to make him show up in Echo's room, there is a ton of back and forth with those two on that prophecy/quest||

[flint sail]

Nyx for me. Shame we don't see her as often in h2

[nova oar]

I LOVE SHIVA RAHHHHH

[heavy gorge]

About the testament and nightmares

I beat 1 boss and got 11 fears. How to spend the fear to upgrade weapon?

[neon barn]

go to the center of the circle where the weapons are placed.

[limpid oar]

are you okay?

[nova oar]

Yeah I did first try 50f shiva

[limpid oar]

I'll eventually get that shiva 62, just need the fates to bless me with some crazy build

[nova oar]

Real

[limpid oar]

I have reached Chronos once I think

[heavy gorge]

Maybe I need to craft something first, its not showing

[neon barn]

its the place where you unlock weapons

[nimble rivet]

SSS Tier: ||Prometheus||
SS Tier: Hecate

[nimble rivet]

Hindus be like:

[queen ledge]

hi everyone, desperately trying to get my last achievement "fair fight: win 1000 gold confronting nemesis". I am on my 120th night, 100+ hours of gameplay, but nemesis won't spawn or, when she does, she would not challenge me while offering a gift instead. I have already maxed her relationship and romanced her. Do you know if this may be a bug? Or, if it isn't, do you have tips or suggestions on how to make Nemesis more likely to spawn? Thanks (really hating this achievement tho)

[cursive nacelle]

Seems you might just be unlucky

[limpid oar]

Play Underworld, she doesn't spawn on surface

[cursive nacelle]

You can do more underworld runs to force odds

[queen ledge]

thanks, i didn't mention it but of course I've been doing underworld for the past 30 runs

[limpid oar]

Also if you meet Nemesis in a run and it's not a fight just end that run, she can't spawn again

[queen ledge]

thanks, i've been doing that for the past 10 runs. If I do so, I meet her the following night but she offers a gift or challenge me to hit her hard (1000 damage in 5 seconds), which is not the challenge I'm looking for

[hallow vault]

Everyone says how talented Darren is

But Ashley is also hella talented ngl

When these 2 come together magic happens 😭

[limpid oar]

Darren is also the fastest h1 runner on the team

[unborn bison]

How much time did y'all take Finish hades 2

[nimble rivet]

Depends on what you mean by finish

Win a run? Took me 50 runs at least

[buoyant matrix]

technically around 150 hours (I'm an early access player)

[limpid oar]

something between 700 and 800

[strange copper]

I have abt 55 hrs logged and I'm past the cutscene

[broken creek]

Uhhh im at like 140 hours and did epilogue and 65f so :P

[strange copper]

I think I have uhh 91 nights

[broken creek]

Depends what you consider finish, credits i think took me like ~30-40 including the ~20 I spend on EA

[strange copper]

Only went up to 12 fear so far, Rivals Scylla was hard enough for me

I don't really keep an eye on it

I just love the game

[unborn bison]

Woah, that's dedication right there

I'm 91 hours

[buoyant matrix]

i just recently hit 220, though a good 40 hours was on my cousin's account so it's actually around 260

[nova oar]

I just hit 400 hours

[limpid oar]

now im at 1086

luthien come watch metal stream its peak gameplay

[timid vigil]

im close to 300, but when 1.0 launched I made a fresh file to experience the whole story from the beginning

[cursive nacelle]

Ive gotten all achievos at 360 hours but 200 of those were in early access before achievements were added

[pseudo badger]

i did hades 1 everything -max rank all achi etc.- in 250h lol

got 40 in hades 2 so far

no early access here, i never play games in beta/EA

[limpid oar]

I usually don't but honestly for this one I am glad I bought day 1, it was such a fun experience being here for early access and seeing feedback change the experience

[pseudo badger]

idk, to me its like watching an uncut movie, its not the final product at all

and i dont want to pay earlier to test and give feedback to their game, thats the devs job

[hazy parrot]

done. i have completed 32 fear on all aspects in the underworld. lfggg

[nova oar]

Now do 40f

Surface and uw

[pseudo badger]

do 67

oh no

the devs are trolling

with 67 being max fear

[dire coyote]

guys whats the point of reminisce?

[merry echo]

six seven 💀

[nova oar]

Devs trolled by making void a vow

[cursive nacelle]

Replay the main story

[merry echo]

so like ng+

[timid vigil]

kinda?

you don't lose all progress, you just go back to the point where you've never beated Chronos or Typhon

[dire coyote]

i mean i just finished it so is there like advantage of reminisce? or idk secrets or something?

[pseudo badger]

Yea 💀 💀

[timid vigil]

0 sand and 0 void lens so you can experience the whole story again

they did this cause of the patch that changed the ending

[pseudo badger]

What was the ending before?

[cursive nacelle]

No point. It was only added when they changed the ending so old players didnt have to reset files

[merry echo]

Yeah losing all progress wouldnt be cool

[nova oar]

Way worse

[merry echo]

oh

[timid vigil]

Not really

[timid vigil]

Not good

Difficult to explain, but it's way better now

[dire coyote]

ahhh reminisce was added for users that played the game and was still not complete? so currently since the game is finish, no need to reminisce?

[pseudo badger]

Nice

[cursive nacelle]

Mostly the same. They mostly just changed some of the subtext to be more explicit. The biggest change being mel having certain memories

[pseudo badger]

Thats a good change

[timid vigil]

Yeah unless let's say like 2 years from now you want to just see the ending again without playing on a fresh save file you could do that

[cursive nacelle]

Theres no other benefit than getting the story again.

[merry echo]

Doesnt the new ending only add like 1 scene and the rest are the same

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it's for the players that finished the game with the rushed ending

[hazy parrot]

sorry akka i am not as goated as you

[timid vigil]

No

[cursive nacelle]

It changed the ending cutscene at the end a bit. With quite a lot of the dialogue having changes as well

[timid vigil]

Not at all, there's way more dialogue, more runs needed, an entire new sequence on the final run, changes to the scenes pre-credits

[nova oar]

Do you want to see my stats

[hazy parrot]

yee

[timid vigil]

You can do 40 trust

[nova oar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hades2/s/ADDJrRfBTB

[hazy parrot]

ive done 40 w artemis and moros in the underworld, and with charon and moros on the surface

[timid vigil]

You can do 50 actually, the problem is after 50 it starts to get hard af

[hazy parrot]

oh yeah i saw this post on the subreddit didnt realise that was you

[nova oar]

I still stand by less than 50f is low fear

62 is medium fear

[hazy parrot]

id say it starts to get to high fear at 40

[nova oar]

65 and 67 is the real s**t

[timid vigil]

I agree that 50f is like the threshold between being doable and messed up but I wouldn't say anything below it is "low fear"

But yeah after playing for a long time that makes sense

[nova oar]

I have to do charon 50f next someone shoot me

[hazy parrot]

dude lowk the person who planted the seed in my mind of "hey you should do a certain fear on all aspects" was you

[nova oar]

:3

You're welcome

[timid vigil]

32f all aspects was super fun I wanna do higher fear all aspects later

[merry echo]

Watched both of them i think the old one is what i got from what I can remember

[timid vigil]

Now it's 62f grind until I get it

[nova oar]

I'm never going past 40 it is not worth it

[timid vigil]

Yeah probably I'll do 40 too

[hazy parrot]

still in low fear with all aspects,, tsk tsk

[nova oar]

I'm just doing 62f/50f on all the aspects I like

[timid vigil]

I don't even wanna think of doing 50+ fear selene

[nova oar]

Exactly 💀

[nova oar]

And what's your highest fear clear?

[hazy parrot]

40

[timid vigil]

I'm starting to remember my failed 62f yesterday that was so sad

[hazy parrot]

shucks, which aspect

[nova oar]

Yeah exactly, so shush

[glacial light]

NO, NO MPREG EMOJI

[hazy parrot]

youre the one who said sub 50 is low. im v happy w my low fear 40

[timid vigil]

Mel staff

Perfect run but I forgot to put dd

[glacial light]

[timid vigil]

I was playing with strength

[nova oar]

😒

[glacial light]

Your attitude is why your favourite aspect is dogwater

[nova oar]

Worst feeling fr

[timid vigil]

I have a collection of mpreg emojis

Including this one

[glacial light]

the hells is that

[hazy parrot]

me

[real scarab]

I did 50f Selene, dash strike spam with flame strike, static shock 😁

[hazy parrot]

its me

[nova oar]

It's cleared max fear so idc

[glacial light]

#nerfshiva

[timid vigil]

#deleteshivadashattack

[merry echo]

I dont get why the emoji pregnant man even exists it doesnt even make sense

[nova oar]

Transmascs:

[glacial light]

#makeshivadashstrikemainstrike

[hazy parrot]

transphobia 🥀🥀🥀

[merry echo]

???

[real scarab]

its dash strike is better than shiva at least

[timid vigil]

Anything is

[glacial light]

Transmascs or people born who physically are male but have female reproductive organs (real thing btw)

[timid vigil]

Life tax dual moonshot epic hera special start...

[glacial light]

No that wasn't transphobia that was a genuine question that they didn't know

[real scarab]

that's a fact yea

[hazy parrot]

nah nah i was joking

hence the 🥀

[pseudo badger]

Im pretty sure less than 1% of players do 50f

[timid vigil]

I mean, a lot of people don't even get to the true ending

[pseudo badger]

Considering only 15% gets thr second veil unlocked lol -steam achievement stat

[nova oar]

And? Just my opinion

Achievements also aren't super accurate cause of EA

[glacial light]

It's okay I agree with you :)

[merry echo]

They are missing out

[timid vigil]

Yes

[pseudo badger]

6.7% get the true ending

[timid vigil]

For H2 specifically you need to get to the epilogue

people who don't get it are really missing out

[pseudo badger]

Maybe they looked it up on yt lol

[rich frost]

Is there anything specific that I need to do to get to the true ending except just play a lot?

[pseudo badger]

Progress relationship with characters

[merry echo]

It isnt that hard to beat final boss multiple times it gets easier

[rich frost]

As in, is it just the epilogue? Or is there a chance I can already not reach it in my save file depending on my previous progress?

[nova oar]

Uh just need to complete both runs a certain number of times

Epilogue is relationship based

[pseudo badger]

Yeah but it takes a ton of time

[rich frost]

Aight perfect, so it's just like in H1 then.

[nova oar]

Yeah, fated list will give instructions

[timid vigil]

just beat the game a certain amount of times on both routes

[pseudo badger]

But you wont get the epilogue unless you max out the bonds no?

[timid vigil]

for the epilogue idk if you need specific bonds

Well you need with Hecate to get the final scene with her

[merry echo]

First character I maxed out bonds with was chaos

[pseudo badger]

I see

[timid vigil]

but you might need I'm not sure

When I got to the epilogue I had already given a lot of gifs for everyone cause I did the epilogue on my EA save

[rich frost]

But Hecate bond is only locked behind the main story, right? Mine was unlocked pretty much right after finishing the main story, with no further investment from my part.

[nova oar]

Bonds mostly come after epilogue

[timid vigil]

So you're good

[nova oar]

You just need specific dialogue

[timid vigil]

The final bond unlocks after epilogue

[rich frost]

I never even gave her any Nectar past the first lol. But I will eventually. Nectar trickles in more slowly than I'd like to give it out.

[timid vigil]

Yeah that's what I thought

Last character I fully bonded was Heracles he did not want to give me the dialogue

[nova oar]

Another perk of ea, no nectar problems

[timid vigil]

Even after beating his ass multiple times

[rich frost]

It feels like Nectar is less common in H2 than in H1, but that might just be because I spent all my Nectar on Dusa at the start of playing through H1, so I immediately got a bunch of it back once I had unlocked the bond with her lol

[timid vigil]

There's an incantion to make nectar

[nova oar]

As long as you don't mod it in

[rich frost]

I know, but Stardust is also not exactly the most abundant resource

[timid vigil]

And in h2 you need other stuff to invite people to bath and fish so I think it's actually easier to have more nectar and ambrosia

[nova oar]

The humble chaos trial:

[timid vigil]

Turn on that 12f and get the final region reward every time

Also yeah chaos trials

[raw kraken]

Nectar is so much easier to get this game

Or that’s what it feels like

[pseudo badger]

You get more gold? Or why

[rich frost]

Yeah well, I'm still fear-climbing also, so I don't actually get to the final region consistently '^^
But yeah I don't think I will need to do a lot of pure resource-farming in the end.

[nova oar]

No, you can get stardust, moondust, nmare, or pet treats

[rancid violet]

So how exactly are you supposed to complete Voice and Vanity?
I have the prophecy on my list, I've talked to Narcissus about cleaning the waters, but I haven't gotten the incantation yet

And as far as I've seen Echo has no dialogue about it either

[buoyant matrix]

how many hearts do you have with echo