h2-discussion

[little mason]

Tell him ull skibity toilet him.

[lyric zenith]

God recommendations for aspect of Perseph?

Oh, I guess Heph maybe

Is on-hit good on the special?

[teal zephyr]

Ares attack, build towards heinous affront (Zeus Ares duo), get light smite from Apollo

[jaunty night]

you need it on attack to build the charge

[lyric zenith]

Oh, duh

[jaunty night]

special i go for damage boosts

[humble urchin]

aphro special goes great on perse

crazy scaling with poms, and you’re always right on the enemies so you always get the bonus %

[frail olive]

GUYS I BEAT CHRONOS FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST NIGHTTTT

[lyric zenith]

Will consider, but I've seen I haven't gotten Coffin Nail yet and may build towards that for now.

[fair patrol]

Again we meet.

MEMORY GAME NO

I PASSED BOTH MEMORY GAMES WITHOUT GETTING HIT

[covert badge]

Real

[fair patrol]

I JUT SGUESSED

https://imgur.com/a/UVjmLq3 which keepsake

[jaunty night]

[frail olive]

and it was really funny cause i did it with the cloak thing and i didnt even like cloak at firsttt

[covert badge]

Antler
Go big or go home

[fair patrol]

I suck I'm gonna die

[nova oar]

Antler

[fair patrol]

what about tooth

[nova oar]

Antler

[fair patrol]

why

[tranquil wren]

I hate imgur

[fair patrol]

I can't send screenshots

[fair patrol]

why antler

[tranquil wren]

send an image in a private discord and then right click, then copy link

[fair patrol]

I took the onion

[nova oar]

It's bugged atm to make you take way less damage

[nova oar]

British ass mf

[dapper granite]

I cicled the dialogues and nothing, now hecate doesn't speak to me anymore :/

[tranquil wren]

try brewing some familiar's delight

[fair patrol]

how many mini bosses in the summit

[tranquil wren]

two always

[fair patrol]

oh good

TYPHON

[nova oar]

This should go well

[tranquil wren]

even when I try using a vpn it doesn't work

[fair patrol]

ZEUS

[split shuttle]

hes beginning to believe

[heavy glen]

you can do it!

[fair patrol]

...I died

[heavy glen]

nooooooooo!

[tranquil wren]

sad times

[fair patrol]

HE NEVER TAKES DAMAGE???

[heavy glen]

he does, you just can't see it

[fair patrol]

I HIT HIM WITH SO MANY ATTACKS NOTHING HAPPEND

[heavy glen]

once he takes enough he'll show visible battle damage

[tranquil wren]

look at his face, it gets more bloody

[fair patrol]

AFTER THAT NOTHING HAPPENED

[tranquil wren]

zeus is like the halfway point

[nova oar]

Did he throw out eggs after zeus

[valid wind]

God the aspect of charon is weird

[nova oar]

Powerful tho

[teal zephyr]

Not in Chronos p3

[tidal axle]

I know it’ll likely never happen. But I wonder how hard it’d be to make Zag playable? Like I’d love to see some sort of Hades 1&2 “ultimate” edition where you can play through Zag’s levels as Mel and vice versa

[nova oar]

Chronos p3 doesn't count he a bish

That'd suck

[bleak scarab]

Mel in hades 1 would feel like hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[tidal axle]

Idk I think it’d be fun

[nova oar]

The movesets for each game are completely different so the fights and encounters would feel terrible either way

[tidal axle]

Ehhh, I really don’t think they’re so incompatible

[valid wind]

yeah but it takes so many boons to start to shine it feels like

[torpid owl]

Mel wouldn't work very well in Hades 1

[valid wind]

granted, it probbaly doesn't help I'm doing a judgement build on my first time trying the rival lvl 1 🙃

trying to work on unlocking hidden aspects so starting the fear grind, but also wanting to do funny hehe judgement+circe build because prophecy to use all arcana

[nova oar]

Then you don't understand the way the game is build around cast/double dash respectively

[torpid owl]

Hades 1 was way diffrent in terms of game speed, dodging and how dependent on boons you were

[fair patrol]

hades 3 is easier than hades 2

[keen tartan]

the hestia + aphrodite boon isn't that great tbh

[nova oar]

It's good if you're not constantly applying scorch

[fair patrol]

why don't trio boons exist

[keen tartan]

yea burn lasts infinitely assuming you're close or all the time with the aphro + poseidon duo boon

but even with the boon that makes burn faster its still too slow

[nova oar]

Even better with freezer burn

[keen tartan]

freezer burn removes the burn is the thing

anti synergy kinda? unless im doing it wrong and you're supposed to stack burn until half their hp is burn then nuke it

[nova oar]

Stack it to 999, remove it, stack it again

[keen tartan]

i was just spamming my demeter cast whenever its off cooldown

[graceful badger]

Too hard to make work thematically and too messy, most likely

[nova oar]

They'd be too hard to get, too overpowered, and just not too fun

[fair patrol]

hades + chronos + cerebeus

[nova oar]

Plus there would be so many possible triple combinations

[valid wind]

I mean duo boons/legends in hades 2 already feel messier/harder to get than they did in 1

The amount of times I've looked at a boons requirements and gone "wait that DOESNT, count for the boon?"

Like the aphrodite+poseidon boon requires aphro attack or special, and her mana regen doesnt count for it

Or like, the hestia+aphrodite boon? Doesn't count aphrodites regen boon

[nova oar]

Yeah some of them are quite quirky

[valid wind]

Or the hesta+heph boon requiring hwstia attack or special , when the boon really wants you to have heph on both

[fair patrol]

best duo?

[valid wind]

Personally either aphro+hestia or aphro+poseidon for me

Ive found a lot of here's duos to be a letdown. Zeus has some cool ones

[nova oar]

King's ransom

[fair patrol]

cyclops is so hard

[nova oar]

Poly is the easiest boss

[fair patrol]

hecate is easier

[mossy shell]

||one more Chronos kill and Ill get Gigaros! I already have the eyes for the incantion 🙂||

[barren ember]

I undid my night because the torches really aren't my weapon and I was struggling and Chronos laughed. Hate him

[mossy shell]

Wait hestia and aphro duo seem busted

[fair patrol]

hello circe

[mossy shell]

Infinitely stacking?

[real scarab]

vor hecate way harder than poly

[nova oar]

Real

[nocturne grove]

Vore hecate

Polyphemus is not too difficult just run away for a bit when he starts overlapping crop circles

[heavy glen]

good luck!

[fair patrol]

vor polythereseus is hard

pomethereus

WHAT'S HIS NAME

[heavy glen]

prometheus?

[fair patrol]

yeah

I'm going to fight him now

[brisk harness]

||anyone know what's life savings in the narcissus prophecy and know how to get it? never seen it in some 300 runs||

[valid wind]

Judgement is so fun but it really doesnt like you turning on the first vow of rivals 🙃

[keen tartan]

IF I GET MY HANDS ON WHOEVER ADDED ||POISON|| TO THIS GAME

[heavy glen]

you need to have spent a death defiance

[brisk harness]

so i have to run DDs... kinda cringe
thanks

[nova oar]

Not having fun with poly?

[heavy glen]

you get one DD and one Lotus

[keen tartan]

first time doing the poly rivals fight, every hit oneshot me

[nova oar]

You can cure the poison

[heavy glen]

try camping at the fountains

[keen tartan]

poison so strong having more max hp is mandatory at this point

[nova oar]

Apart from that it's the exact same as base fight, easiest rivals fr

[heavy glen]

the first time i fought them i died a lot but my second time i realized ||if you run around enough he'll lose the poison capabilities|| and you can lure medea away from imbuing him with more

[dark tide]

Can somebody properly explain how Sprouted on the Persephone skull works? I don't understand the description.

[fair patrol]

I'M GOINOG TO FIGH THIM

FATHER OF ALL MONSTERS

STRIKE HIM ZEUS

[nova oar]

When taking a boon there is a chance you will get extra levels

[heavy glen]

pack twilight curse and he's the father of all sheep XD

[nova oar]

I'll see you in a few minutes when you die

[buoyant matrix]

you can steer your skull car

crazy frog style

[shell stag]

Hey! I'm having troubles unlocking the incantation "Acceptance of Another Fate". Looking at the wiki I've had all the requirements (||7 chronos and typhon kills, second statue and all available incantations unlocked||) yet the incantation does not appear, any idea what am I missing?

[brisk harness]

you are also actually impervious while doing so iirc

[mystic rune]

my my how you've grown, i remeber the other day when you were stuggling on eris lol

[fair patrol]

I DID IT!!!!!!!

[tranquil wren]

you need to finish the epilogue now as well

[buoyant matrix]

wiki is severely outdated for most stuff
you need to have finished the epilogue too

[shell stag]

Ah that explains

Thank you!

[fair patrol]

the palace of zeus

[hearty timber]

Oh man 😨

[dark tide]

@nova oar @buoyant matrix Sorry. I meant in regards to the charging part of things.

[shell stag]

Damn I've been neglecting gods affinity, this will take a while

[heavy glen]

Woohooo!

[humble urchin]

any extra source of damage that you get from gods (think hera’s hitch, zeus’ blitz, poseidon’s wave, hestia’s scorch) fills up your meter, at max meter, your omega special goes on for 2 extra seconds

you need 2k damage from those sources to max out the meter

[buoyant matrix]

olympian damage charges up your ability bar next to your hp. more bar filled = more vroom vroom

[fair patrol]

I got the incantation

[livid field]

finished the game on a new save in 45 runs. mel aspects are better than I thought, even tho I onlu used 3 of them

[humble urchin]

yeah, mel aspects compared to zagspects in H1 are a good bit better

Mel staff being one of the best aspects in the game as a whole lol

[dark tide]

Does that include +%?

As opposed to only boons that add like +X damage?

[graceful badger]

No, except for ares

[buoyant matrix]

no

[fair patrol]

how many more times do I have to beat typhon

[humble urchin]

it has to be from the extra source of damage

so for example on hera, only the damage from hitch counts, the % damage increase wouldn’t

[humble urchin]

you can check by seeing how many void lens you need for the new incantation

but iirc it’s 5 total

[fair patrol]

2 more wins

[mossy shell]

What if sfsdsdgsd doesnt even own the game and is just talking about it lol

[heavy glen]

i stuck with the zagreus aspects cause they were most familiar to me, i loved getting the one where holding the button made your sword attack, i mixed it with the armor piercing one and the one where you recover hp with a hit and called it 'the chainsaw'

[jaunty night]

the spiritual successor would probably the ||hel|| aspect for the skull

they definitely toned down the in combat healing from H1

[heavy glen]

i got one with ares where you get hp back per hit if you're at 40 or below, against typhon i couldn't die

[brave urchin]

Guys, how do i force Ares to appear in the path of stars?

[heavy glen]

you need ||the aspect of selene on the black coat||

it offers a hidden hex by default

[graceful badger]

You can't, it appears if you have the right blue nodes at start of the run.

[jaunty night]

yeah that can be crazy

[jaunty night]

selene coat, get an ares boon and then upgrade ur star path

[keen tartan]

do i get used to rivals fights first or get used to playing with other fear modifiers

[heavy glen]

i got that one as soon as i could cause i knew i'd forget about it otherwise

[brisk harness]

frenzy 2 tbh

[plucky dew]

do both at once

[brave urchin]

thanks

[nocturne grove]

Is there a world where if youre not using rerolls youd go for the legendary boon

[jaunty night]

i mean it can happen

[nocturne grove]

Arcana

[jaunty night]

oh, hell nah

[nocturne grove]

Its 5 grasp which is the sum of those where would you put the grasp thrn

[jaunty night]

what is it, excellence? definitely not worth 5 grasp imo

the hard part about getting legendaries is getting all the prerequisites, which rerolls help big time with

[nocturne grove]

Yeah I was just thinking

It would be cool if they made the grasp give you 4 choices instead of 3 or something like that

[buoyant matrix]

yeah you can run it with fates whim

i don't, but some do

they don't take it for legendaries fyi, it's for the rares

[nocturne grove]

Without rerolls youd have to run like death defiance only too for divinity

[craggy totem]

What, why would you have to run DDs

/check game
Looks like I either use the top row or the second row in my hotswaps

[mystic rune]

so im eating lunch and like broswing youtube.... and i came across this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdM-uiESw-I

0 fear but buddy actually did full run in under 4 minutes total time on game clock. actual WTF

[limpid oar]

the same person has beat max fear btw

[craggy totem]

I was like "wait didn't people say the WR was four minutes and change" and then I saw the datestamp, I guess that one didn't count because EA?

Ugh, Selene offered my least favorite hexes at half and full moon :\

[keen horizon]

a change I don't love from the pre-release is the relationship-forming timelines. how long it takes to form a bond with nemesis now is muuuvh longer; I'm almost done the game and icarus still isn't even at the crossroads (gifted at every opportunity) and how railroaded you are into a relationship with moros (deliberately skipped every other interaction and gifted at a lower rate and still the first of the four to form a bond)—imo possibly the only flatly unlikeable character in the game.

I love all the extra dialogue and that the progression takes longer but it's isn't temporally balanced.

[brave urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1429139211998597352/image.png?ex=68f50d1c&is=68f3bb9c&hm=b2e831108f34809bee5c359c64b18e6098cf52c0636e8ebb496edf6c13c9ceb8&

[heavy glen]

if you can get them goddsent they'll work

[brave urchin]

I got 5 hammers.

[heavy glen]

hephaestus would be envious

[jaunty night]

ugh surface rivals is muchr harder than underworld rivals imo

[brave urchin]

I got 2, then 1 echo, then anvil and also Icarus keepsake lol

[jaunty night]

wait echo can dupe hammers? wowza

[heavy glen]

sea star can duplicate grab bag boons

cause the bag itself is the item

If you have the arcana card that lets you turn 3 minor rewards into a major reward, poseidons sea star will duplicate the item you turn it into. This will give you double boons and if you’re lucky enough double a hammer.

i wonder what the maximum amount of hammers is

[craggy totem]

Huh. I didn't think about that, but you're right, it happened to me the other day.

[keen horizon]

also a couple of things that have happened to me since launch that didn't in prerelease: have had a tartarus run that only 2 doors offered; when using Fates Whim the probability of getting one god's boons extremely disproportionately seems not uncommon—last run I took ares attack as my first boon and then was offered so many apollo boons I was only offered two boons in the final offering, never saw second ares.

[brave urchin]

OMG I GOT A TITLE

"hammer hoarder" XD

in the victory screen.

[buoyant matrix]

the ever off-meta middle column:

[keen horizon]

barring sea star you can minimally get 5 (echo + keepsake + anvil)

[buoyant matrix]

fyi he has 8 fear on and they're vital. frenzy2 makes enemies spawn faster and boss invulnerability phases last shorter. shadow makes the shadowspiller miniboss in erebus faster

[keen horizon]

learn the fights before you speed them up, i came from hades 1 into 2 feeling that it's best to just learn in the context you'll eventually play in, but what I actually accomplished was not really learning the fights because I was always too panicked to study patterns

[fleet jasper]

you dont need to study patterns if you kill them fast enough

[brave urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348151957111701517/1429141288388923603/Speedrun_Hades_2_-_FIVE_HAMMERS.mp4

[nocturne grove]

Whats a good build for the staff

[keen horizon]

uh hunh. wait until they have wards and you have scars

[nocturne grove]

I really cant do the dash attack into special combo

[fleet jasper]

i was just making a joke 😭

[keen horizon]

oh. well. i mean it's true up
to a point lol. i love just racing dps

[fleet jasper]

lol i get it

[keen horizon]

just did a persephone run with fates whim active; lvl 9 epic hestia attack first boon, lmao, literally stand and deliver

[keen tartan]

get lucky with a hammer that doubles your attack but consumes 5 mana, get Hestia or Poseison gain boon, poseidon cast, either Aphrodite or Hestia attack then a bunch of Zeus boons

[tall lagoon]

what does that even mean ?? what ? thats how you play the game you cant even call it a combo

[keen tartan]

poseidon attack is also good with staff attack speed build

[nocturne grove]

Thats now how I play other weapons

[tall lagoon]

its main attack and after secondary attack what do you mean you cant do it

[nocturne grove]

Because I get hit bro

[fleet jasper]

you gotta git gud (im sorry)

[tall lagoon]

the staf is super fast what do you not get hit in then

[nocturne grove]

Daggers I can stay put

[keen tartan]

what's the best torches for a fineline, ocean swell, cut above spam build

[tall lagoon]

how is staying put good

[nocturne grove]

By using the omega attack torches are too op to be bad

[tall lagoon]

torches are not too op

[nocturne grove]

Because you can stay put twelve miles away and teleport

[keen horizon]

put demeter on your special and zeus on your cast, put hestia on your attack, get the duo boons with demeter. it's a really simple build that lets you cc for damage/ get in, DoT and get out. honestly by your questions the true answer is just "get better", but I also sucked when I started and it is helpful to just have a basic success strategy to get you started

[keen tartan]

really the only op thing is Aspect of Medea skull

[nocturne grove]

And you can dodge while channeling too

[fleet jasper]

how does it even work i dont understand it

[tall lagoon]

r click l click repeat

[keen tartan]

you just mash attack and special, attacks load the skull into your hand which explodes when you land a special

and auto picks up the skull after special as well

[fleet jasper]

okay so you gotta special in enemies to do damage? isnt that like super risky?

[keen tartan]

you spam it so it deals alot of dmg to break armor and stagger enemies but yea still risky

[fleet jasper]

okay... maybe ill give it a try

[keen tartan]

the 90% increased special and attack dmg from maxing it out is also part of what makes it broken

probably more broken on controller with the auto aim so you never miss a special but still works fine on mouse and keyboard

[fleet jasper]

i play w a controller so yeah ill give it a try

also how much nightmare thingy does one need to max every weapon in the game?

[nocturne grove]

Im sorry but the staff combo is so clunky feeling

And like you have to do it so much sucks theres no good omega build

[tall lagoon]

the best thing in the game is so dookie bro

[lyric zenith]

?

[tall lagoon]

being sarcastic

[fleet jasper]

lol

[frozen narwhal]

I encountered a problem in the game, and recently I noticed that my first room has always been Zeus. Even if I die or win the next round, carrying gifts from other gods cannot change it.This issue did not occur in the new game save.

[lyric zenith]

How many nights in a row?

[fleet jasper]

do you have cloud bangle equiped?

[finite oracle]

is anyone able to help me in the new players channel below

[fair patrol]

you are lucky

[frozen narwhal]

about 20

[fair patrol]

are you doing undo night

[frozen narwhal]

no

[storm glen]

oops all zeus

[fair patrol]

oops all 6s

[fleet jasper]

i think zeus loves you

[torpid owl]

there has to be something up with serpent scales spawn chance that stuff has only appeared for me twice in like 30 runs there

[crude dragon]

Bring Raki like you should be doing anyways :3

[frozen narwhal]

no, every night i dead

[brisk harness]

welp, time to do the arachne outfit at chronos cheevo

i'll let chat pick my weapon and aspect ig idc

[lyric zenith]

Mel staff obv

[brisk harness]

well so be it, though I personally dislike that staff the most lmao

[jaunty night]

does hitting hecate clones heal her? or do they just blink green to troll you

[brisk harness]

the latter

[buoyant matrix]

troll

[crude dragon]

They just blink green to indicate it's an afterimage

You'd see a green number on the real Hecate if she got healed from it

[keen horizon]

get help? if not msg

[fair patrol]

why does this challenge have 15s slow mode

no voice to cry suffering

[buoyant matrix]

was increased for the big flux of players at 1.0 launch, not sure why they haven't reduced it yet

[keen tartan]

can any dmg source spawn plasma with profuse bleeding?

[buoyant matrix]

should exclude scorch

[wanton skiff]

I was not prepared for the boss in the field of mourning😭
I felt so sad fighting it

[fair patrol]

my first time in mourning fields I got past the boss and I lost to chronos in p2 cause I didn't know his attacks

[fleet jasper]

isnt it like play time for him?

[fair patrol]

got destroyed by the instant kill

[fleet jasper]

its okay you still did good

[stuck gazelle]

how crazy is that i found a fishing spot in Chaos for the first time ever in my 54th night? even tho i go to Chaos regularly
and which made it even crazier is that i found it twice in a row in the same night and no Toula wasnt with me

[wanton skiff]

There's a second phase? i only got half way through phase one

[stuck gazelle]

i really forgot about them

[fair patrol]

yeah

[brisk harness]

welp got cd capped heph attack and cryo pounder on top of the armor
dont have to try now

[craggy totem]

Not initially, no.

[fair patrol]

how to get nightmare quickly I really need

[wanton skiff]

Not when corrupted

[fleet jasper]

ahok

[wanton skiff]

Me when i saw the random dark mist for the first time in the field of mourning

[lyric zenith]

Testaments, buy nightmare w/ your rewards cards whenever possible

[fair patrol]

I can't see in broker

[wanton skiff]

Oh different nightmare

[fair patrol]

what

[wanton skiff]

I was thinking getting nightmare irl 😭

[lyric zenith]

Broker is not a great deal, but if you don't care about nectar or ambrosia it is the fastest way to get nightmare.

[fair patrol]

where is it I don't even see it

[craggy totem]

Q about skull specials -- if you omega special and do the rush attack, does every enemy you hit count as "close up"?

[fair patrol]

it says it's in the broker but I don't see

[lyric zenith]

In general, you want to access as many nightmare sources as possible. If you can play 12 fear consistently, that's another chance for it. If you can save 1,300 gold for the end shop consistently, that's another source for it.

[fleet jasper]

prolly bcz its NOT in the broker yet for you

[lyric zenith]

But the delivery and testaments are the two most efficient sources, and the 12 fear source is RNG but "free" so long as you don't think 12 fear is very hard.

[fleet jasper]

charon also sells nightmare sometimes

[fair patrol]

but it says it's able to get from there, and I have previously gotten a nightmare

[craggy totem]

Yeah that's what Ray meant by the 1300 gold for end shop

[fleet jasper]

well its not in stock yet

[fair patrol]

I have done many runs

[fleet jasper]

and? its just not in stock yet

[fair patrol]

when will it be

[fleet jasper]

when broker wants to? idk man im just telling you that if its not in broker store thats bcz its not in stock yet

[wanton skiff]

Is an incantation needed?

[fleet jasper]

i dont think soè

[jaunty night]

oh damn! playing greater chaos trial and i got circe keepsake and that gave me judgement

[fleet jasper]

i love when shades do this little emoticon so bad its so cute

[wanton skiff]

Real

[fair patrol]

Purchased from the Wretched Broker for 950 Bones each (becomes available after Melinoë receives her first Nightmare)

[fleet jasper]

yeah but iirc its not always in stock

[fair patrol]

x1
(Limited to
1 purchase per night)

[jaunty night]

right? best one imo

[fair patrol]

have done many nights, never saw it

[fleet jasper]

it rlly is! im also rlly happy to see good shade again

[fair patrol]

I also got a nightmare before because I have aspect of Medea rank II

[fleet jasper]

have you ever got your 1st nightmare...?

[fleet jasper]

idk then i think you just need to continue playing the game and get nightmare by killing bosses and stuff

[fair patrol]

what does "night's reward" mean

[fleet jasper]

idk whats the context?

[jaunty night]

the goat is back!!!

[fair patrol]

in testament

[worn void]

Does cleansing bridal glow unheroic and unlevel the random boon?

[fleet jasper]

okay and whats the full sentence its in?

[fair patrol]

"Testament marked. Enact it, and earn Night's reward."

[fleet jasper]

it might be a reference to nyx but idk i never thouguht about it too much

[buoyant matrix]

night is nyx, night's reward is nightmare

[lyric zenith]

It means you get nightmare for beating the target boss on sufficient fear for that weapon.

[brisk harness]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/320311688262057985/1429153918893691062/image.png?ex=68f51ace&is=68f3c94e&hm=3f527fefc7fefc0d550b482e36c0fdb45319782c8523df2553c9ec8ffba650ef&||
technically there's also Charon's shop...

[jaunty night]

dang what a coincidence i also got 4 hammers just now

[brisk harness]

or iirc doing runs with like 12 fear you get to pickup nightmare infrequently in final areas

anyway cheevo done

[fleet jasper]

gg

[jaunty night]

nergal with 4 hammers and judgement

this Greater Chaos Below won't know what hit it

ew, metallic droplet for final region

[crude dragon]

The hell you mean, ew

That's fantastic to get

[humble urchin]

droplet on nergal is great for the channel speed

[crude dragon]

And general animation speed

[jaunty night]

now that i'm using it, true

[brisk harness]

droplet is cool
especially in a full random run

[jaunty night]

and it doesnt seem like it'll run out before the boss

[brisk harness]

could've rolled more meme things

[fair patrol]

4 mins and 48 secs left and I just defeated Hecate
I'm slow

[crude dragon]

If it's rank 3, it's very unlikely to run out

[jaunty night]

maybe i should have given droplet another chance after leveling it asap and never equipping it again at the start of the game lmao

[crude dragon]

The ever-present risk of Antler

[fair patrol]

3s blast

I need quicker

[jaunty night]

ok this is ludicrous speed

mercury droplet has been redeemed in my eyes

this is such a stacked build for a random run, grandpa won't know what hit him

[wheat fog]

how do you get born to win prophecy?

[jaunty night]

speak to chaos with the embryo equipped i think

[devout cairn]

droplet non-believers in shambles...

[jaunty night]

yall what's the best way to convert obol point cards to kudos?

[fair patrol]

level 6 volcanic strike finally

[brisk harness]

didn't do the calculations but psyche seems like a good guess

[nocturne grove]

I did a aspect of mel staff special build

[jaunty night]

now get some hammer duos to really juice it up

[fair patrol]

got love handles and grand caldera, trying to get more blast related things rn

[nocturne grove]

I got aetheric moonshot with dual moonshot and apollo legendary, basically bricked my build at the end by picking up the zeus boon which makes you cast in range

[crude dragon]

Look for Poseidon and Hestia

[fervent silo]

Is #self-promotion the channel exclusively for reposting videos? I made one about hades 2 and was wondering if I can repost it here

[fair patrol]

they never appeared (I'm in Tartarus now)

[pale pier]

Ngl, I wish supergiant kept Chronos being able to cancel your pause 💔

[bronze stream]

They did

[pale pier]

No they didn't

[brisk harness]

that was very rude so no

[pale pier]

Now, when you pause, the screen turns black and he comments about it for a minute. But before, he would literally UNPAUSE the game

[bronze stream]

||its in the rivals fight where it belongs||

[brisk harness]

I'm all for nice touches but not at the cost of UX

[jaunty night]

yeah you can post it there pretty sure

[fervent silo]

[pale pier]

Wait really??? I never noticed cos I have never paused during his fight

[fair patrol]

Chronos should always stop your pause if you have Time vow

[glass ocean]

they could in theory make chronos' unpausing an accessibility setting

[pale pier]

TIME TO GO CHECK THIS OUT. I have never paused during his vow of rivals fight so I hadn't noticed they kept it there

[fair patrol]

typhon rival should be mother of all monsters

[nocturne grove]

Ive used sun worshipper three times in a row lmao

[fair patrol]

I CAN'T AFFORD NIGHTMARE NOOO

[nocturne grove]

Life saver in prometheus fight when they just start nuking him in the final phase

[brisk harness]

I hate hunting for this life savings
i can't die to anything in the first two underworld regions for it to appear 😭

[jaunty night]

lmaooooo i gotta do that too

[nocturne grove]

Is hex 5% buffs global damage?

[jaunty night]

wait don't you have to die to get it? cuz it refills?

[keen tartan]

i think i found my new favorite build i call it the blender

[brisk harness]

yes and I can't die

[keen tartan]

it involves meat grinder, arctic gale, arctic wind and combine it with air quality

[jaunty night]

eh, just go afk for a little bit

[fair patrol]

To the abyss of the subconscious I descend...!

[keen tartan]

my blender run kills typhon in like ten seconds

[fair patrol]

guys I didn't get nightmare

I won the run

oh I'm dumb

[keen tartan]

nightmare drops when you do the testaments which is a specifc boss on a specific weapon with a minimum fear level

[fair patrol]

yeah I went underworld but I had Eris

[keen tartan]

prominence flare actually sounds like a blender

combined with meat grinder

[broken glen]

Geyser spout is better for Ocast but there’s no reason not to take it if you’re doing a cast build

[keen tartan]

i didn't use any ranged casts for my cast build

[jaunty night]

if they're air quality maxxing i'd take flare for the meme

[keen tartan]

freeze was how im staying alive mostly

ive done rivals eris, time to see what sort of hell awaits me at rivals sirens

[crude dragon]

The song's to die for

[fair patrol]

why do you always kill scylla last

I tried killing her before charybdis but I couldn't

[tranquil wren]

she's the main attraction

[fair patrol]

no charybdis is more of the main attraction

[tranquil wren]

charybdis is an addition, not the main attraction

scylla is the frontwoman

[merry whale]

scylla's clam dash is annoying, i prob should start focusing her more

[fair void]

how do i unlock the guitar shade for music

[neon isle]

has the least threatening attacks

[crude dragon]

She's the least problematic

[jaunty night]

she is NOT a clam!!!!!

[neon isle]

you need to be right next to her to get hit generally

[crude dragon]

Yeah, she's an oyster :3

[neon isle]

jetty too, but jetty is more annoying w the stun

[tranquil wren]

I love the sound when scylla pops out of her shell to greet you

[merry whale]

well she's in a clam so

[keen tartan]

the "melinoe seek us" quest are these related to gifting people gifts?

[neon isle]

speaking of, someone on tumblr observed that scyllas close range spike blasts attack is her mouth

her entire body is a mouth hidden away by tentacles

[tranquil wren]

dang

[lyric zenith]

Yes.

as well as getting dialogue, p sure

[crude dragon]

No wonder she can sing so well

[tranquil wren]

okay the one thing I think H1 did better than H2 is the decoration. H2's deco is great but a lot of it is pretty minimal sometimes. I also hate it that you can't have two posters up (scylla and heracles) but you could have both aphro and dio in zag's room

[keen tartan]

trying to unlock the hidden aspect for sister blades is painful

idk how many more artemis dialogues i have to go through

[tranquil wren]

make sure you have at least 5 nightmare invested into non-mel aspects

[jaunty night]

yeah H1 did have better decor i agree, the H2 funko pops more than make up for it tho imo

[tranquil wren]

lol I do love the chthonic funk pops. I'm missing three right now, I'm guessing one is from Selene

[neon isle]

found it
https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb67dbc6bb73e2b44bb24b0672de74d3/3a7e5776b2d9d559-c8/s400x600/27672f2c2f3b24510251fe6b5c25de639f5b4d53.pnj

[fair patrol]

is oceanus cleared in 1 minute good

[glass ocean]

god i thought i was snubbing the sirens by killing them in 30 seconds look at you

[still dagger]

how does jeweled pom work? I understand the fates' whim part

[jaunty night]

all boons get +3 levels and you get a hades boon when you start the run

you keep the boon AND level increase for all future boons even when you swap keepsakes

[fair patrol]

how to get jerewlerd pom

[still dagger]

post credits

[still dagger]

nice. but not if I switch to an olympian's?

[tribal yew]

Finish the game then go to Hades room

[carmine yarrow]

it doesn't undo anything, just disables fate's whim so you don't get any future bonuses

[fair patrol]

if I die after getting nightmare do I still keep it

[carmine yarrow]

yep

[fair patrol]

good because I'm not finish thing this run

[jaunty night]

so future boons arent level boosted correct?

[carmine yarrow]

exactly

and once you break fate's whim on a run with an olympian keepsake, you can't use the other keepsakes that require it after

[jaunty night]

omg i just noticed, nem has a little ingredient satchel on her butt just like mel!

[fair patrol]

what

[neon isle]

fanny pack

[keen tartan]

If you gain dices from activating arcana mid run does that disable the jeweled pom?

and will jeweled pom reactivate upon losing those dices

[neon isle]

yes, no

[fair patrol]

nightmare isn't showing in broker shop

I just got one

[crude dragon]

You can't get the reroll Arcana mid-run if you have Fate's Whim active

It'll only show up once it's broken by a god keepsake

[keen tartan]

do olympian keepsakes that don't summon gods like Artemis, Hercules and Dionysus disable fates whim

[viral topaz]

yo tf happened to my zeus boon, picked it up and only choice was 90 coins to spend later on or sumthing... im in the shop in front of chronos smh

[keen tartan]

one i tested for sure is that athena keepsake disables it

[crude dragon]

Those don't, no

[crude dragon]

You thinned out the pool to where there was nothing left but potential Duos and maybe the Legendary, and those didn't spawn

[viral topaz]

lmao alright that makes sense

[nocturne grove]

Does fig leaf work on minibosses

[keen tartan]

I need to make a Hephaestus bulld, he's the only god i don't have a tier 3 keepsake of

I'll probably do surface runs and get a free mythical blast boon via Hera boon

[fervent silo]

here's the review i made, hopefully its ok to post here
https://youtu.be/tg8mTo8LZS0

[nocturne grove]

Is demeter ever called sibling by anyone in the game lmao

[crude dragon]

Hestia and Hera

Since those 3 are Hyperion's daughters in this game rather than Chronos's

[nocturne grove]

Who tf is hyperion

Marvel comics hero ass

[jaunty night]

comic writers try to come up with an original name challenge (impossible):

[tropic monolith]

it's hard in that the average player is really not that good at the game

[tepid rune]

Yeah if you’re on a dedicated discord server for a game there’s a reasonable chance you’re already past where the “average casual player” would be

[novel cypress]

I have a question about Stalwart Stand. If you get it while on zero dds, and then find a way to replenish/gain more dds, will stalwart stand be used before the others?

[wheat needle]

wow, i just found out that if you look closely at the moon symbol after having a hex on you, theres stars on it that indicate how much points youll get

[dire plank]

Selene is also Demeter’s sister as well in the game though I think they are estranged since she grew up with Nyx as a foster parent in a sense.

[wheat needle]

oh cool

[dire plank]

Basically Chronos is the abusive father and Hyperion is the father who went out to get milk and never came back.

[crude dragon]

It will, yes

[timid vigil]

How many times I need to beat || unrivaled prom || to earn || Heracles || trust?

[dire plank]

I could be wrong but I think it’s just once and then a lot of exhausting other dialogue options before it’s brought up.

||Everything around getting to know Heracles and Prometheus is a huge pain and I hope it’s worked on in a future patch.||

[pastel lava]

how luck based and hard is it to do great chaos below trial? heard people say its was really hard and annoying but i just got it first try idk if it was just dumb luck or people overstate the difficulty of it

[dire plank]

It’s entirely random so I imagine it’s a very different experience for different players.

[jaunty basin]

it's dumb luck

[dire plank]

Haven’t touched it yet but it’s the last achievement I need so I’ll probably have to get around to it.

[pastel lava]

i did get mel staff wich is pretty good but my vows wher a bit rough and my keepsakes did nothing all run

[dire plank]

I think not having the arcana cards you want is what really screws it up

[timid vigil]

literally the last bond i need to forge

[pastel lava]

oh i had full 30 arcanas i guess i dodged the arcana vow?

[dire plank]

Well the arcana cards in those chaos trials are randomized

[pastel lava]

yeah true i did have strength and origination pretty much jsut need those two lol

[dire plank]

So you could just not have Death, Wayward Son, Persistence, Origination etc

Or have a costly combo like Death and Strength

[pastel lava]

i mean arcana cant be fully random tho since it has to use the 30 so there is a limited amount of combos to it no?

[twin apex]

wow i just now got circe's bond maxed out. the game just refused to give me her encounter

[tepid rune]

“How luck-based is the challenge that randomizes everything” I feel like mostly speaks for itself?

[dire plank]

Not really limited since there are still so many possible combinations. You’ll probably get most of what you want but less than you’d hope.

[tepid rune]

In any case I personally found it more infuriating than doing a regular 32 Fear run, but ymmv

[pastel lava]

well depends how balanced the game is it feels fairly balanced to where you can make most weps work

[tepid rune]

The randomized arcana (and to a lesser extent, the vows and the keepsakes) were a bigger detriment to me than the weapons

Having neither Origination or Furies was pretty annoying in terms of damage, and having to put a 5th and then a 6th Olympian into my pool via randomized keepsakes was pretty annoying too

[pastel lava]

gues i just lucked out on first try only really annoying part to me was vow of forfeit and hubris my keepsaked didint do anything tho so i was basicly running without it

[tepid rune]

Also, not that there aren’t ways around it, but oof is the vow that gives enemies immunity for X hits annoying when Chaos gives you the big slow axe

Like I still managed to beat the run because, as you say, the game is generally balanced enough that sufficient skill and/or game knowledge can overcome most rng, but definitely felt like more of an uphill battle to me than my 32 Fear run, despite it being “only” 20 Fear

[hasty ocean]

What's the theoretical worst run you could roll in great chaos

They don't disable any dead combos like Death+Gorgon Amulet, right? You could habe nothing but useless/detrimental keepsakes the whole time

[tepid rune]

Uncertain, but my run had both Death and Strength active (and also Toula lol) so Strength was just a wasted slot

[broken glen]

I had a great strength run going but then I rolled white antler last region and died

[tepid rune]

Ah yeah random Antler last region would be rough

[broken glen]

I’m a white antler fan but not while I’m on STRENGTH

[slender sparrow]

If you’re not sure you’ll clear the run without using up all your defiances, then Strength isn’t a waste of Grasp — it’s your backup plan.

[tepid rune]

Fair enough I suppose, but it’s not a combination I’d have chosen for myself outside of Chaos’s influence. If I’m running Death, I’d generally prefer the 4 floating grasp to go arcana that would make it less likely to run out of DDs to begin with, either directly like Lovers for instance, or indirectly like Artificer to scale faster, or something along those lines

[spare ice]

Possibly obvious question, but if a resource doesn’t say “Needed Resource” next to it that means it is completely useless for any future incantations or upgrades and I can sell all of it?

[nocturne grove]

white antler is good but unfortunately I am not

I think I would use it if they said 30% of max hp and not just 30 hp

[jaunty basin]

this would make the game autoplay and win itself from when you equip it to beating the last boss

[glad lake]

I need some advice and/or inspiration for using both heph attack and special in one go. Someone recommended me Coat once but I cannot even recall

[jaunty basin]

morrigan blades is also a great Hephaestus blast boon pick

[glad lake]

hmmmmmmmmm

just go for big BOOM damage?

[jaunty basin]

not exactly

[glad lake]

wait does it trigger thrice since Morrigan attack hits 3 times? that can't be right

[stray nexus]

Hi, do you guys know if i can do|| melinoe find us prophecy|| in ||chaos trials||?

[jaunty basin]

morrigan synergizes because you want to use attack special and omega move once each, meaning you use the same attack at most twice per small enemy

and rather than get high % boons for damage, a 900 blast and 999 triad proc beats most other damage setups on it

[glad lake]

then I should take off Vow of Wards

[jaunty basin]

not really either

[glad lake]

you are doing me a confuse Kathleen

[tropic monolith]

I think heph won't trigger against a ward so it doesn't get wasted

[jaunty basin]

you clear wards with the initial attack/special and then blast and triad proc after

[glad lake]

whenever I read the word Triad my brain goes to Deus ex

[jaunty basin]

that is a you problem

[granite wigeon]

bruh i dont understand how i get odesseus to visit friends, ive carried the bones to all 3 now and not gotten any interaction, ive maxed his hearts and stuff

[glad lake]

you need the Circe roll

[tropic monolith]

you need to have the quest to trigger it

[glad lake]

Nobody needs to trigger it as well

[granite wigeon]

the wiki says he should prompt you with it or whatever after you take bones 🤷‍♂️

[glad lake]

I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Tough Gain

[slender sparrow]

Maybe focusing on the first word of ‘Blood Triad’ instead of the second will help?

[granite wigeon]

so quirky

[glad lake]

or you should play Deus Ex

[slender sparrow]

Probably because it’s constant, ongoing damage mitigation that applies to every single hit you take, so it especially helps against small but rapid hits.

[glad lake]

does wonders against Prometheus

[slender sparrow]

What makes you think I haven’t?

[nocturne grove]

I dont get it does morrian 777 not get boosted through orig blah blah blah

[glad lake]

nope, fixed damage

[humble urchin]

yeah, the only 2 ways to increase the triad damage is with heph’s legendary, or the hammer that adds 222 damage

technically the other hammer that gives you a 35% chance to proc a second triad does too

[glad lake]

ooh lmao Ares still simps for Nyx

[pastel lava]

i got the vow of denial on and i got all the pre req boons needed to the legendary heph boon to show up yet instead i got the 90g pop up instead of the legendary???

[granite wigeon]

||oooh bruh dora is pandora 💀 ||

[simple sierra]

you still need to pass an odds check for legends/duos to appear

[glad lake]

yep

[pastel lava]

ah damn really so i still jsut get one option of 90g

[granite wigeon]

is the getting to know prom the same as this questline, for the fates quest

prom is the only one i need to be friends with for that one i have lft

[random flame]

||chat should i let scylla drown me just this one time
she hasnt beaten me since night 3||

[glad lake]

no, never, SCylla needs to git gud

[random flame]

fair nuff

[glad lake]

tell her to drown on deez nutz and beat them

[humble urchin]

wait until you do her rivals fight

[random flame]

shes like begging me its verry silly

[glad lake]

one funny thing I like is that the onlly single enemy you actually cannot kill is Polyphemus. He jsut falls asleep ,never dies

[random flame]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395520747879010315/1429193075774853120/20D79C1.JPG?ex=68f53f46&is=68f3edc6&hm=fbc4b4f68587ade6b0095912d8919a553bcd64586196967c88766cb59cb7545b&||

idk how to spoiler a embed link

[heavy glen]

people have jokingly claimed he's the strongest character in the hades universe

[random flame]

but yeah im on the rivals fight

[elfin heron]

How do I get hidden aspect of all weapons dm pls

[random flame]

i spedran unlocked all the tiers on night 55 ish and havent turned it off even tho my fear requirements are like 4 and 8

[heavy glen]

i can't get narcissus and echo to meet a second time, i've tried talking with nemesis too but she has new conversations about plot and room stuff

[hasty ocean]

Typhon: lots of eyes, gets permanently obliterated as part of the story

Everybody else: normal amount of eyes, dies like normal

Polyphemus: no eyes, cannot be killed, only KO'd

What are they trying to tell us 👁👁

[spare venture]

whts the best god to duo with apollo for pure damage

[heavy glen]

in myths hermes killed argus, who had 100 eyes

[hollow lily]

aspect of morrigon takes so long to wind up

its unreal. the ohm attack take like a solid 2 seconds to wind up

[jaunty basin]

are you using sorceress arcana

[hollow lily]

nope

tho i mainly main artemis and the axe so this never felt like this for me

[jaunty basin]

that's your issue

[hasty ocean]

Sorc is always-on for me no matter the build

Best part of doing Fates' Whim is the extra 7 grasp from not running rerolls

[upper siren]

If you're used to Artemis then yeah, it'll feel slower, but you definitely should be running Sorceress, on every weapon, especially Morrigan.

Because if you're not using a lot of Ω moves, you're likely running Huntress, which you often need to use 1 Ω to activate.

[hollow lily]

god if only the devs took my advice and gave me the ability to name arcana sets

[dull sedge]

I mean it depends entirely on the build

[spare venture]

im using the moonstone axe, thanatos version

[dull sedge]

like, hep-apollo boon is commonly used for ding dong builds

[upper siren]

^ It is the least important duo for the Blast build though

[wheat needle]

i hate rivals chronos man 🥀

[dull sedge]

idk man I personally would've gone for Aphrodite attack if you're playing like straight up attack

[upper siren]

Blast build priority is Heph -> Hestia -> Ares -> Poseidon

[dull sedge]

oh I didn't know ares was used for blast

[upper siren]

(for maximum damage)

[spare venture]

oh i havent even met ares yet

[dreamy forum]

guys who should i romance? icarus or doom incarnate

[upper siren]

Pick your favorite, or go for both.

[hollow lily]

ironically enough i dont have the huntress on either. dawg send me a video explaining all the arcanas if i couldve named them id be soo much happier

[dreamy forum]

you can romance both?

idk that feels kinda wrong for me atleast

[upper siren]

No idea, would assume so, haven't bothered with any of the romance myself.

[dreamy forum]

fellas, is it gay to romance a male character when the character you're playing as is a girl? (🃏)

[upper siren]

Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f7HqDQ6FwU
One of the greatest explaining every arcana.

[kind saffron]

Agggh I'm stuck with the Fates' prophecy. Have no idea who the last person I gotta meet is

Not asking for help just venting a bit

[hasty ocean]

Short answer: no

Long answer: noooooo

[nimble inlet]

Greek gods… also you can romance 4 in hades II

[nimble inlet]

Knock him dead

[marsh spear]

Ok so how do i unlock chaos above/below again?

[tranquil wren]

need all keepsakes, weapon aspects, arcana, and rivals unlocked

[marsh spear]

I already did

[tranquil wren]

well actually rivals may only be for the great versions

huh, no clue then. maybe you have to do more trials?

[marsh spear]

Hmm, i'll have to check again tomorrow

[humble urchin]

i think you need to clear all or atleast most of the trials

besides unlocking every keepsake, arcana, aspects etc

[little mason]

So what happens when I do the last thing on the fated list any after story content like || opening the gates to Olympus again or seeing the old hades 1 homebase or actually renovations to the final region being done? ||

[tranquil wren]

that makes sense. I had done all of them prior to getting the last keepsake, so I unlocked them immediately

[tranquil wren]

no

[pine mesa]

what am i accomplishing when i "proclaim" at the bar? it raises some kind of rank, but what does that do?

[dreamy forum]

no
NO
I THOUGHT THIS GAME DIDNT HAVE POISON
NO

[little mason]

It's only 1 boss

[hollow lily]

i cant help but feel that attacks arent registering for the morrigon

[little mason]

Brain delay?

[tranquil wren]

purely cosmetic. you get to see your rank when you complete a run

it's just an endgame resource sink

[craggy totem]

Finally cleared with Nergal \o/ I think the main barrier for me was actually just Nergal being unupgraded lmao, after I did some grind runs for nightmare I maxed it and was able to spend less time in slowville

[nimble inlet]

There is no escape

[opaque bison]

If all my arcana are fully upgraded, does the Circe upgrade it to a higher level still or is it a waste?

[craggy totem]

Not a waste, she upgrades them past normal max

e.g. max Zag card heals you 4/room but Circe upgrade makes fully upgraded Zag card heal you 5/room

[little mason]

Her upgrades tend to suck

[nimble inlet]

Didn’t zag healed 5 per room on max without Circe?

[little mason]

It's 5 now lol

[craggy totem]

I could be misremembering lol, I don't tend to rely on it that often

[little mason]

Think ur to scarred

[craggy totem]

It's a small boost, anyway, nothing gamechanging

[opaque bison]

Thanks, normally I just learn through trying but I'm on too high of fear to make the mistake. Centaur is giving 6/6 and divinity is 20% epic now

[nimble inlet]

6/6? you mean 60% for rare or above?

[hollow lily]

yeah nah this is real, mouse clicks arent registering for morrigan

[little mason]

Small benefits that don't do much worth to get dodge or dmg or upgrade ur pet really that's all

[craggy totem]

Centaur they said, that's the max HP/max magick card. So now it's giving +6/+6

[nimble inlet]

Oh right

[little mason]

To bad circe doesn't upgrade to rank 4 forever 😭

[nimble inlet]

Per a couple of rooms right? Or region? I don’t have great memory in that card

[craggy totem]

TBH doubling the Gale buff seems moderately good compared to some of the other buffs

[pale pier]

Chat, how do we unlock the ability to change our familiar's appearances?

[craggy totem]

Or the Raki buff, I imagine that would be pretty good.

[little mason]

Birb 4-8% crit sign me up

[nimble inlet]

Also did you see Hermes chance boon adds to max mortality on Thanatos?

[little mason]

Does Toula get 2dd upgraded?

[nimble inlet]

If you’re going on a crit build that is

[little mason]

Every build is a crit build

That's the most universally used pet

[craggy totem]

It's not 4-8% crit, it's going from 4% to 8% >_>

[nimble inlet]

Well yeah but I meant if you wanna try to max out the crit

[craggy totem]

The Vow removal is also pretty nice if it hits a good one but that's super RNG

[broken glen]

I love success rate

[dark zenith]

think i found a bug

[broken glen]

By far one of the best additions to hades 2. Just makes all of your % boons feel better

[little mason]

Artificer gets renew when it's upgraded yes

[broken glen]

You can report it with f10 in-game, even if it’s a bit after the incident happened

[dark zenith]

if you have a god keepsake like the photon for example and you're in oceanus, if one of the sealed exits would be the god who'se keepsake you chose, the game will tell you

maybe not a bug and maybe a feature

[broken glen]

Even if that’s a bug I would rather them not fix that 💀

What that means is that your god keepsake is triggering, spawning a god on one of the doors, which is intentional I think

[little mason]

When u reset a room is it just pulling the next door to ur current door?

[dark zenith]

is it a hot take to say i wouldn't hate the intermissions in oceanus into the past if it was SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES ASPHODEL

[tranquil wren]

I get them like one every ten runs so I don't mind at all

[dark zenith]

it was cool the first time now its just a bother

[graceful badger]

You can't really fit them anywhere else tho

[dark zenith]

hot take: i would lowkey take a fight with asterius.

[little mason]

Anyone else notice the bull boss has ridiculous range when he does a back kick the legs stretching is almost comicial

[dreamy forum]

guys i died twice and dont have any dd left, should i go for the gorgon amulet and hope for all my dds back or do i use luckier tooth and hope typhon doesnt decide he doesnt like me

[dreamy forum]

wrong game discussion.

[little mason]

I'm talking about the hog on the surface city mini boss

[devout cairn]

gamble for gorgon, trust

[broken glen]

Fun fact: If you want to exit asphodel early, just leave the ring after activating it. It’ll teleport you out when it reaches 0%, but you won’t get a reward.

[craggy totem]

How much faster is that?

[dark zenith]

that's good to know

[nocturne grove]

you will lose reward so

[broken glen]

It’s really fast since the ring starts at a really low %

[dark zenith]

oddly counterintuitive though

[nimble inlet]

Btw I had the melinoe help us prophecy before launch and now I didn’t see it, whys that?

[dark zenith]

like how does melinoe escape in practice

[little mason]

U know what's faster standing in the lava and dying

[devout cairn]

witch magic

[broken glen]

The reward can’t be a god, because you can’t get dialogue in asphodel (that would be weird) so if you’re ok with losing money or a Pom just do it

[dark zenith]

...you CAN get gods in asphodel.

[broken glen]

There’s actually dialogue from chronos in-game if you do this, he says that you figured out his trick (you can just leave if you ignore the circle)

[nimble inlet]

Magick

[graceful badger]

It can be a god, at least in trials

[dark zenith]

i just got apollo lmao

[broken glen]

You can? Dang I never realized that

[dark zenith]

wish i was recording

[broken glen]

I feel like I’m getting Mandela’d

[dark zenith]

also when's the scylla world tour

[little mason]

U mean melinoed

[jaunty basin]

when your eyes have been clawed out and you've been drowned to death

[wispy forum]

is there a reason artemis is a lot more involved with melinoe than the other olympians? apart from artemis just objectively being cooler than most gods

[broken glen]

She’s a silver sister

[jaunty basin]

silver sister

[little mason]

Silvester?

[wispy forum]

hmmm, i c i c

[dreamy forum]

paid dues is so ass man...

[jaunty basin]

Sylvestre de la eldenring NIGHTREIGN con pita pan

[broken glen]

She’s she only one who would ever be out in Erebus, so it makes sense that she would be with them

[glad spindle]

Do SGG going to make a DLC for H2?

[jaunty basin]

if taken early yes if taken with 2k gold at Olympus/fields no

[broken glen]

Most likely not, they’ve never done DLC before

[stiff merlin]

Can I get offered Renewed Faith by Athena while using Strength? Or do I have to actually have spent death defiances

[jaunty basin]

latter

[nocturne grove]

you can get the prime defiance but not the refills

[dark zenith]

i mean... they've also never done sequels before... 👀

[little mason]

Just give us a coop with Mel and zag now for hades 3 😭

[nocturne grove]

hypnos dream dlc

[little mason]

Or interchangeable character swapping

So when I wake him up do I ever see him again?

[dark zenith]

look i'm not saying i WANT dlc, i'm just saying if there was i would download it/buy it in a heartbeat

[nimble inlet]

Holy -

[dreamy forum]

holy quac or whatever screw this rule, night blossom is so op what was i worried about

[nimble inlet]

You can never know what new and unique banger will SG send our way next

[little mason]

Like silksong

[nocturne grove]

they should definitely do a randomizer where 4 rooms get shifted around

out of the 8

[vestal grove]

what is the best boongiver with medea?

[little mason]

Give us a 100 room dungeon that incorporates all bosses and rooms from every region into one run.

[dreamy forum]

man why does getting the outfit incantation so expensive

i dont have 6 wool i only have 1. so evil

[nocturne grove]

chronos 1st boss ergythian boar final boss

[nimble inlet]

I wouldn’t want an Hades III tbh, the best outcome will be if SG makes a Greek mythology game next about something else

[dreamy forum]

rivals 2 shivers my timbers

[nimble inlet]

Or Mayhaps a game about a different mythology? Ohhhh

[little mason]

Make a hades 3 game but you only play as bouldy but you have to keep pushing him up the hill

[nimble inlet]

Nah I wanna be bouldy rolling over some bad guys (baddies) like going downhill

And then you can be also be launched from a catapult, the possibilities are endless

[little mason]

Bouldy can sit on me... I mean crush me... I mean..

[nimble inlet]

[bronze stream]

I dont think bouldy can push himself

[little mason]

He can if he receives the blessing of telekinesis or gravity magic

[little mason]

If an ape can fly why can't a rock.

[nimble inlet]

Gravity is crazy

A game with Sisyphus pushing bouldy on enemies

[little mason]

I think bouldy is crushing on me 🥁

[nimble inlet]

I think you have a crush on bouldy

As long as it doesn’t crush on you tho

[little mason]

Can't blame him he's rock hard

[nimble inlet]

Oop

[pastel lava]

hooolllly lvl 10 heroic volcanic strike in shop before first guardian of the run man i love persephone

[little mason]

You can't have that high of hepestus boon it's a waste.

U don't go lower then 2 seconds

[pastel lava]

ik i had it at common at lvl 8 from start of run and got bridal glow making it heroic and giving it 2 free lvls i mainly jsut picked it for the hreoic to take it to 2 secs plus i got chain reaction

[hasty ocean]

I can't believe even Bouldy got a sexy glow-up in the sequel

[little mason]

Wonder what bouldy would look like in the hot tub

[tropic monolith]

I'd click Accept on that

[little mason]

Why can't hearcles just pick him up and take him to crossroads 😭

[thorny adder]

Imagine the noises are just Mel grunting as she tries to push Bouldy into/out of the hot tub

[dreamy forum]

17 achievements to go, and now i shall sleep

[devout cairn]

mel's staff is pretty cool

[craggy totem]

I've six to go but at least two of them involve more Fear than I'm comfortable with 😂

[little mason]

It's a pretty universal staff

[tidal cliff]

You just gotta try out different fears until you find what your comfortable with, fangs sounds bad at first but it’s nearly unnoticeable after a while

[tropic monolith]

I think the highest fear needed for achievements is 16

[craggy totem]

Great Chaos Below

That's 20, isn't it? And then -- oh, I guess I didn't consider in the Rivals one, which isn't necessarily high in raw fear but I've heard some ominous things about Rivals 4 😆

[thorny adder]

Great Chaos Below is the tamer version. As long as you don’t roll into Time 3, you’ll probably be fine

And Rivals 4 is really unlikely, so you’ll probably be fine

[unreal temple]

Bruh vow of pain in the surface is absurd absolutely everything shreds 1/4 of your health per hit

[tropic monolith]

oh yeah, missed that one

[craggy totem]

Re: Rivals 4, for the Unrivaled Prowess prophecy one, I mean -- though if I ever decide to give that one a crack, for sure I am not putting on any other vows lmao

[thorny adder]

Ah. You don’t have to beat Rivals 4 though, you just have to reach the final bosses for each route

[wheat needle]

got to the epilogue...thats it? wow

[craggy totem]

Ah! I must have misremembered and mixed it up with one of the other prophecies, then. That at least just cuts it down to needing to learn Rivals Cerb...

[little mason]

I know right lol

[tropic monolith]

yeah that was really friendly of the devs

[thorny adder]

(But also, Rivals 4 is pretty fun once you learn it, but it takes so much focus lol)

[craggy totem]

(Controllable) focus definitely not one of my strong points 😆 I thought a bit about submitting some slowass baby runs to the board on the less popular aspects, but in the end the clincher wasn't "I'm slow", it was "I would not be able to screen-record for a solid and uninterrupted x minutes without going off and doing other things between screens"

[dusk dove]

Post end spoiler:|| how do you fight zag and get his keepsake? ||

[craggy totem]

Shows up by RNG in the non-boss shops in the middle of a zone, you'll know it when you see it

[thorny adder]

Hey, on the bright side, you won’t have time to go between screens on Rivals 4!

[dusk dove]

Do you mean shops in between encounters or shop before a bossfight?

[tropic monolith]

shops that are not before a boss fight

[craggy totem]

non-boss
Not the one before the bossfight

BTW people in the chat have said that due to how the map generation works, it's easier to get him in the Underworld

I don't know jack about it myself but I figure that's something to take into consideration if you're a-huntin'

[tropic monolith]

I haven't checked it but I'm pretty sure finding mid-area shops in the rift/mountain are harder

[thorny adder]

Can confirm. Surface 1st biome has no mid-shop, Thessaly prioritizes fountains, Circe, and disputes

[tropic monolith]

rift particularly feels like it's lower chance to find

[craggy totem]

OH right, duh, y'all even pointed out the Ephyra thing before and I literally even responded to it lmao. Yeah, ofc.

[tropic monolith]

UW third biome has no mid-shops either, barring an echo failure that I don't think the contract can spawn in

[thorny adder]

It does

They added it in Unseen. There are now midshops in the fields

(Echo is still prioritized though. It’s not a straight 50/50, more like 70/30)

[craggy totem]

Is it just fields that makes the generation choose between NPC and midshop?

[thorny adder]

Thessaly

[vapid igloo]

I gave Nyx a gift and she didn't give me anything back, She hates Mel

[little mason]

the gift she gave you is you get to keep existing

[thorny adder]

Nyx and Mel feel like an employer/employee relationship, so gifts would be kind of weird there.

[craggy totem]

She already gave you six sickass slice'n'dicers subsidized, what more do you want ;P

[thorny adder]

Can’t forget the statues (although I’m pretty sure despite being called Gifts of Night Skelly made them himself)

[craggy totem]

Perhaps she commissioned him to make them :P

[little mason]

you literally have the nyx black coat she gave you that, so ungrateful

[thorny adder]

More like… dug up from a warehouse

[craggy totem]

Warehouse or not, ain't nobody else in the game giving you six keepsakes 😆 (Or nine, if you count the statues...)

As expected of a goddess with five billion kids, that is a lady who knows how to operate at volume.

[thorny adder]

Ah true, she did outright reject Mel’s request of returning the axe to Than

[craggy totem]

The literal personification of Death going up to his boyfriend like "[cough] I hear mom gave my scythe to your little sister..."

[mystic rune]

oh man i gotta choose between ares and appollo both of them rain circles from the sky....

[craggy totem]

Is there one whose boons would fit your build or preferences better? If they're alike in anger, perhaps the differentiator is which one will help you fight the other better.

though, gen q, does one of them have scarier circles? I feel like I don't take Ares enough to see

[mystic rune]

im doing a whim of the fates run, jewled pom with thanatos aspect, and i already got appolo on main attack

my run is going really well

[craggy totem]

....I wonder, if you take a family dispute room, is it possible to get a duo boon for the two disputin' gods when you pick the first boon?

That would be mildly amusing in an inapt sort of way

[tropic monolith]

If it's the same as in Hades 1 you can't get any duo in a dispute

[craggy totem]

Ah, aha, that is a pity but it makes more sense. (Can't believe the devs are out there making things make sense. Truly, how dare.)

[dusty tapir]

So Im a fair bit into the post game and Moros still* hasnt given me the phrase for the torches hidden aspect. I have the base aspect at 5, do I need to get one of the other 2 to 5?

[tranquil wren]

yeah it needs to be 5 nightmare into non-mel aspects

[dusty tapir]

ahhhhh

ok ty

[novel turtle]

alright, I'm mad at Dio now. ||epic worry free, rare reckless abandon and a common personal loan.||

I- Echo hates me too. I grabbed the common and she gave me the epic too...

[jolly hound]

she doesn’t stop you from treating her kids like Pokemon, what more can you ask for

[hearty fog]

"Ew, you're not your brother."

[reef radish]

what are some of the better aspects for ||jeweled pom|| runs ?

[tranquil wren]

wait you can gift her? the codex always says that she's only interested in your continued service, so I never bothered

[prisma monolith]

just triggers some dialogue, theres no affinity or anything

[prisma monolith]

if i had a dollar for everytime this happened, wouldve been $3 id say

[tranquil wren]

[prisma monolith]

rarity is a trap outside of heph

[tropic monolith]

Pretty sure she gives you the nectar back

[prisma monolith]

ignore it

[rough horizon]

Poor Moros ||just got rejected||

[nocturne grove]

If athena can make it herself all the way to tartarus she should jut fight cronos

[devout cairn]

she doesn't have witch hacks for the time magic

[nocturne grove]

does knuckle bones make it 46% resist or 55% resist

and does demeter infusion take the 10 off before resistance or after

Im guessing after cuz its useless otherwise

[craggy totem]

Incredible trollery. H2 Dionysus is hilarious.

[toxic lark]

Does anyone remember if its in the crossroads or out on the surface path icarus affinity gauge unlocks? (for giving him ambrosia)

[nova oar]

Surface

[bleak gust]

just making sure , if i play with fig leaf , it will skip me 3 rooms in total but 1 per region ?
the text doesnt make it clear for me

[nova oar]

Yes

[craggy totem]

Well, it skips you three rooms max, one max per region. Apparently you can get unlucky and have it just never proc, which sounds terribly annoying.

[bleak gust]

sounds like my friend that had 98% sea star and didn't get a double xd

[broken glen]

How about one???

[nova oar]

He has a 40% chance to appear in midshops

[craggy totem]

It's just RNG and not common, you're not doing anything wrong. Bad luck.

[fleet jasper]

pray that he comes and beat your ass (im sorry i had to)

[broken glen]

(Also, maybe mark spoilers)

[humble urchin]

possessed array doesn’t trigger rightous pike, does it?

[broken glen]

I feel like it should, but if I remember correctly it explicitly does not

[little mason]

Hermes reappear item in shop is just so op

[humble urchin]

yeah i’m leaning more towards it doesn’t, but just wanted to hear it from someone else, thank you!

[frank eagle]

I was doing really well in chaos bellow and then it gave me the artemis keepsake for tartarus with no dd or armor

[craggy totem]

Now that's certainly some chaos that'll make you bellow.

[broken glen]

That same exact scenario has happened to me before, I’m so sorry for your loss

[vocal adder]

I just realized that posiedon's crown isnt coral, its 2 seahorses

[craggy totem]

Can't believe Scylla tricked us like that

[sweet cove]

Xcom coded

[nocturne grove]

Im kinda hating the casts spells that are like shoot out cast et

you cant use cast mid channel when you take those its so annoying

[velvet igloo]

i might be cooked

32 heat, just finished first region with 1 hp and no death defiances 😭

[vocal adder]

Yeah wrap it up

[nocturne grove]

I hate the squid monsters

charybdis and the stupid thing in oceanus Idk how to fight them

[proper lake]

its just a lot of running around lmao

[craggy totem]

Oceanus one: sheep it 😂

[lyric zenith]

Tranquil gain has quickly become my favorite mana restoration

So nice w/ mixed builds where I have huntress, especially.

[velvet igloo]

why tf do i do no damage when i use anything that isnt moros torches

[nova oar]

You need to build/play those weapons better

[velvet igloo]

tbf the only things i have maxed out are moros and melanoie revaal

[novel turtle]

Can someone explain aspect of Hel to me like I'm 5

[hearty fog]

Always start combat activating Valkyrie Mode with an Omega Special.

[torpid breach]

OK, need advice: Do I take Epic Grievous Blow (20% chance of double damage if enemy has Wounds, pumped to 60%(!) by Success Rate) or Rare Blood Spree (+2 HP/hit, if under 40 HP)?

[hearty fog]

Grievous Blow.

[torpid breach]

(Strength run, no DDs)

[velvet igloo]

blood spree

[torpid breach]

yeah, I also am having a hard time deciding xD

[broken glen]

G blow, you can get spree later

[torpid breach]

I'm already near the end of the boats...

[broken glen]

G blow is just so good for wounds build and you have success rate

[torpid breach]

yeah, true that

[stable flame]

I am pretty sure it only pumps it to 25%?

[broken glen]

You’re only in Thessaly

[robust hare]

is there a quick way to farm adamant? im just trying to upgrade the black coat and its taking too long

[torpid breach]

I have +40% with Succes Rate.

[stable flame]

Yeah, I think it's 40% of the current rate

[torpid breach]

Rare.

[broken glen]

That is 40% of the current odds, so 20/4 = 5

[velvet igloo]

also is it just me or do yall forget to use your casts

[pallid cradle]

You're correct. It's not just an attitude %

[bronze stream]

||do you think there could be any connection between taking athena keepsake in oceanus on my 'final' run at chronos and not getting athena||

[torpid breach]

Ah, ty, so multiplicative, not additive

[stoic urchin]

you could also take the echo strike super mod

[torpid breach]

Smack yourself, O Out of Context Utterer

[stoic urchin]

im told s5 works wonders against typhon 💔

[stable flame]

Depends on the build but usually not, it's still usually at least a bit more free damage/enemy position control

[torpid breach]

I use casts constantly/ Demeter cast is just "that" useful

[broken glen]

But yeah I’d take grievous blow since you’re only in Thessaly, you’ll have plenty of chances to get blood spree (rarity doesn’t really matter for it)

But you want a good g blow

[robust hare]

can you get adamnt from trial runs? is that the fastest way to get some?

[frank eagle]

what do you mean by "final"? do you mean the final run to get the main ending?
if so I could see there being some scripted element of that run that prevents you from getting her

[broken glen]

Resources don’t spawn in chaos trials iirc

[craggy totem]

Hey folks I have an important dispatch which is: if you are fighting a million hourglasses and you have Shocking Loss, sometimes you do not get out of the way in time

[robust hare]

ok ok, so only way to get it is by progressing through the surface?

[frank eagle]

i find that focusing on optimizing resources never pans out as much as just continuing doing normal runs and eventually getting it

just use the right familiar and you'll get it pretty quickly

[robust hare]

how do you get all the familiars? i only have frinos toula and gale

[bronze stream]

yeah thats what i mean

[frank eagle]

stock up on treats and you will find them randomly in specific rooms

[robust hare]

right, but which rooms?

[frank eagle]

different ones for every familiar

this guide goes into it in detail
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3242576853

[robust hare]

thank you!

[frank eagle]

keep in mind though that they aren't guaranteed to show up at these locations, it's random chance every run

[robust hare]

ok ok, i think thats why i havent found them

[wispy forum]

why does odysseus keep giving you stuff

and how can you shower him with affection and money and the bloody mangled corpses of his enemies to pay him back

[craggy totem]

Cos it's tactically beneficial to keep your main attacker supplied, of course 👍 Wise man.

[wispy forum]

brilliant tactician indeed

[simple sierra]

#h2-victory-boasting message First GCB clear was with vow of forfeit and scars, and neither death nor strength arcana!

[craggy totem]

Neither death NOR strength seems a bit mean of Chaos smh

[simple sierra]

fr, and with 2x scars too

[craggy totem]

"I'm sick of y'all arguing over which is better -- how bout NEITHER"

[simple sierra]

had to play really safe, but aspect of hel worked well with that. then i got scorch on attack right before tartarus and my dmg finally stopped being abysmal

[robust hare]

||does hitting typhons heart or whatever comes out actually do something?||

[simple sierra]

sirens took maybe 4 minutes to kill

[nova oar]

Maturing is realising dd's are better

[craggy totem]

Sounds like the words of someone who's.... living in fear

[merry whale]

ye, if u do enough damage it skips straight to the second egg phase

[nova oar]

Damn right I am

[craggy totem]

Folks I have a very important and serious complaint about game balance:
you can't pet the cats that you attract to the Crossroads

[novel turtle]

YES

[brittle solar]

guys, can u romance 2 characters at once?

[nova oar]

You can do all 4

[brittle solar]

Ooooh!!!
Thank you

[weary tartan]

yes keep ballin

[mental stone]

any tips against the post story ||zagreus|| when using melee like axe in early regions (1-2)? Feels like I just don't have safe openings to counter them

[craggy totem]

IDK the pro strats or whatever, but I did it by kiting a LOT and using the omega special and casts

If you have any of the boons that let you range your cast, that's obviously very helpful too

[mental stone]

I didn't have any mana regen so couldnt stay in range 😅 thats why I hoped for melee tips, but maybe its just safer to avoid them when I have no range option available

[craggy totem]

Ah fair, that is a hungry hungry omega 😅

[mental stone]

yeah, it feels pretty easy when I have ranged option like skull or missiles

[thin laurel]

with axe I feel like I’d try to rely very hard on the dash attack and punish him at the end of combos, since getting locked into the slow swings sucks

but idk, I haven’t done that fight all that many times yet and I rarely play axe

[neat frigate]

My dad always calls me boy so I changed his contact image https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795392053273165864/1429271245903499348/IMG_9703.png?ex=68f58813&is=68f43693&hm=6b7ce0f8caf20ebc41772fe753e42c1f4be8db9ce4c3972cb60537ba4d312f43&

I thought it would embed oops 😭

[weary tartan]

it's very easy to guess what the image is

[neat frigate]

True

[chilly summit]

can you get narcissus encounter in chaos trial

[simple sierra]

i think i did during GCB
meant nemesis*

[novel turtle]

Yeah I have no idea how to use aspect of Hel

[chilly summit]

damn so none of the floor specific ones

[nova oar]

No

[chilly summit]

should i just die every time i meet him caus it seems like he never shows up in successive seeds

i’m trying for the trophies and since the game doesn’t let you gift echo until after you talk to her, this was left until the end and it’s been infuriating trying to meet with each of them

[nova oar]

Echo is almost guaranteed every fields, you just have to keep hoping for narcissus

[chilly summit]

yea echo i got caught up

[simple sierra]

Idk if it's the right way but in my gcb and 2nd clear of anything with hel, I put hestia on attack and just kept up the valkyrie buff

[novel turtle]

ohhhhh after the special ends holding attack is bursts of 3 maybe I should've tested on skelly before a run lmao

[simple sierra]

ye after using the special you rapid fire with no pauses for a bit

builds scorch so fast 2 thirds of an enemy's bar would be yellow

[craggy totem]

....I'm ngl it took me until you said that for me to understand that's what was going on with the yellow bit on the health bar. LMAO

[weary tartan]

games that show how much DoT is left in the enemy health bar are my favorite kind of gender

[little mason]

Love chaos above and below give me atremis keepsake twice in a row in last region good thing I built around heph armour

Got lucky with silk sash too