h2-discussion

[jaunty night]

wait they don't work together??

[covert badge]

at last the middest of the gods has arrived

[tranquil wren]

chronos goes invuln so it doesn't work

[fair patrol]

how do I reach typhon again I suck

[halcyon finch]

That's like the worst hades boon anyway

[fair patrol]

I only got lucky that time

[craggy totem]

Does it always not work? I thought the issue was that the person had done some damage and that made the timings line up badly

[jaunty night]

you did it once, you can do it again! this time, you know what's in store for you

wait cerberus is gone...

[tranquil wren]

as far as I know, whenever I use knucklebones chronos always enters an invuln state

[jaunty night]

dad your dog is missing and you don't even care? wth

[covert badge]

its only the matter.. of time

[jaunty night]

ba dum tss

i do like how many time puns they managed to cram into the game

[devout cairn]

get lucky again

[fair patrol]

should I get judgement

[devout cairn]

nah stick to what you have

[fair patrol]

I mean like unlock

[devout cairn]

do not believe in the judgement meme

[jaunty night]

unlock yes, but be aware it's 100% a meme card

[fair patrol]

wdym meme card

[verbal rampart]

Judgement is a meme? X')

[devout cairn]

judgement agents out there want you to believe it's good (it's not)

put them all on ignore (this is a joke)

[covert badge]

solid arcana card setup is better than judgement most of the time

[craggy totem]

Judgment + Circe keepsake, max out the memeticisms

[covert badge]

also the centaur

[fair patrol]

I wanna try using judgement

[devout cairn]

you fell for it

[jaunty night]

it's fun for sure, but you want consistency if you're not super experienced yet

[craggy totem]

I did one (1) maximally memetic arcana run and that was more than enough for me (it did the thing of drawing Strength and Death in a single postboss)

[verbal rampart]

At the end of the day, it's your call

[fair patrol]

ARES

[covert badge]

I’ve lost count of how many times Judgment just randomly triggers Death, and then I end up wasting all my DDs just to reactivate Strength again it’s a struggle fr

[verbal rampart]

Areeeees, Areeeeees [start to sing God's Game]

[fair patrol]

I want his keepsake

[tropic monolith]

tbh the max meme is having as many active as you can then having circe keepsake draw judgment

[jaunty night]

first 32 fear win achieved!! :D

[covert badge]

at last you're facing the middest god of the gods

[fair patrol]

?

[craggy totem]

Speaking of Ares, I totally understand why SGG made the choices they did, but my kingdom for a Greek myth inspired canon sometime that will fulfill the OG vibe of making Ares both a bloodthirsty warmonger and a total oaf

[verbal rampart]

What choices are you talking about?

[craggy totem]

Oh I just mean like the visual design and characterization stuff, not like plot stuff

[verbal rampart]

Ooooh ok

[covert badge]

Ares used to be solid, but man.. How they massacred my boy

[fair patrol]

ares is so good

[jaunty night]

him having a modicum of intelligence?

[craggy totem]

He's too busy massacreing his enemies to pay full attention to sharing boons with Meli

[devout cairn]

aphrodite also thinks she's convincing anyone with that spear and shield when she got oneshot by Diomedes

[stoic urchin]

ares is decent

[craggy totem]

Precisely 😂

[graceful badger]

Ares is very good with most other stuff

[covert badge]

Dude don't get me wrong, I love Ares! I really do. His duos are so fun to build with, and Plasma build too

But man he fell off hard when Mortal Gain got removed, and nerf after nerf

[jaunty night]

what did it do?

[graceful badger]

Joke on you, I don't remember my play time before 1.0

[covert badge]

im getting crazy

[hardy stone]

I just say it out loud. “2, 1, 3, 3, 2.”

[jaunty night]

numbers jumpscare

[tropic monolith]

it's funny you say this, because plasma build is not fun for me in any way unless I get the legendary; which is rather a lot of investment

[jaunty night]

thats even worse than left midle right

[craggy totem]

Yeah, I don't know what it is about the human brain, but saying things out loud makes things wildly easier to remember for short-term purposes.

[covert badge]

fair but also how dare you

[craggy totem]

You, me, Adamant Rails at dawn, or so help me Hestia

[tropic monolith]

Petition to have Rivals Prom randomly say "Top, three, right, ...." etc. that doesn't match the pattern

[craggy totem]

You absolute FIEND

[jaunty night]

hmmm i might try for a plasmamaxxing build with hel

[devout cairn]

this implies left middle right is bad...

[fair patrol]

up

[jaunty night]

might be funny

[hardy stone]

“Turn the middle side… topwise.” —Bart Simpson

[fair patrol]

down

[hardy stone]

Me: “…what?!” <takes 200 damage>

[jaunty night]

prometheus himself says top middle bottom... the ONLY valid, OBJECTIVELY correct way of labeling the zones

[graceful badger]

It's way more involved to say stuff rather than think stuff. You think, then you say, then you hear, it goes a long way.

[craggy totem]

TBF left middle right would be bad, because "middle" is two syllables -- left mid right is where it's at 😎

[jaunty night]

i don't hear, too busy jamming to the sick trumpets

[fair patrol]

l m r

[graceful badger]

And that's why I scream it

[tranquil wren]

olympus aflame is peak

[covert badge]

lemurs

[devout cairn]

olympus aflame 2nd half goes so hard

wrong reply

[craggy totem]

Controversial opinion, I think Sightless Shepherd goes harder 👀

[stoic urchin]

i like wrath of the heavens better for olympus

and the necropolis for ephyra is my favorite

[jaunty night]

lacking integral body parts=sick boss theme

well i guess proms liver propably has regrown

[smoky radish]

Guys i got 2 questions.

1. Does the arrow indicate romance? If yes, i shouldnt proceed there with more then one character i guess.

2. How many times do i have to beat the game for epiloque? Only need to seek the emissary and rebel against gods, i can guess who they are but tf i am supposed to do? Nothing happening

[craggy totem]

Guess who else is lacking a body part? Our girl here. So what's her boss theme? Post-ending major spoiler: ||And no, you can't say Hecate, she's from a different timeline, I mean the one from this timeline who did blow up her arm for a shade that other!Mel never met||

[craggy totem]

You can proceed with as many or as few characters as you like.

[granite wigeon]

wow that hades cast boon is really good

[stoic urchin]

me i just love feeling like hades throwing skulls

i know first hand how much they hurt 💔

[verbal rampart]

Answer 1 : you can absolutely proceed with more than 1 romance. Melinoe is not monogamous

[jaunty night]

don't let [uhh i forgot who] hear that

[smoky radish]

Does it lock me out of any important content if i dont? Because honestly i rather not

[craggy totem]

Multiple of us, Pondie..... multiple of us 😆

[craggy totem]

No, there's no important content lost if you just don't want to fw romance.

[fair patrol]

I just reached Eric

[jaunty night]

bewitching eyes, obviously

[verbal rampart]

Don't worry, even with the max bonds, you can still refuse the romances. Just max the bonds and "follow your heart"

[jaunty night]

don't listen to scylla it absolutely is about mel

[smoky radish]

I see, thanks

[jaunty night]

and she totally wrote it herself, not jetty

[verbal rampart]

Do you want to know what options you have?

[devout cairn]

i've had the hades cast miss ONCE and that was enough for me to never take that Boon again. If my cast is gonna miss it's gonna be due to my incompentece 😤

[granite wigeon]

wow the cast even lets you track the correct hekate

[smoky radish]

ye

[verbal rampart]

You can romance Moros, Icarus, Eris and Nemesis. For this, simply max the bond and choose to accept the romance. Nothing wrong will happen if you refuse

[jaunty night]

just like in hades 1 you can't date the small floaty green character, and just like in hades 1 that's bs

[craggy totem]

Spoilers la

[fair patrol]

isn't it hecate

[smoky radish]

How exactly do i accept or refuse? Because i maxed Nemesis but never ever happened

[craggy totem]

If you never meet the conditions for the "romance scene" then it doesn't come up.

[granite wigeon]

(i spell poor have)

[fair patrol]

I reached the Mountain

[smoky radish]

what are the conditions besides giving them all the gifts?

[craggy totem]

It's different for each one. For Nemesis it's got to do with the ||trade random encounters that you can get with her in the UW||, so if you never do those it won't happen.

[smoky radish]

i see thanks

[verbal rampart]

Simply keep playing and wait. she will propose you and you will do your choice during one of the trade encounters

[craggy totem]

The one that kind of amused me was Moros': ||unless I'm much mistaken, you've got to die to trigger his (or maybe use a DD?), which seems to me like maybe you'll just never trigger it if you're too good at the game lmao||

[verbal rampart]

Ah yes I forgot she never appears during the Surface runs

[verbal rampart]

Maybe the devs suppose that with enough Fear you will eventually lose.

[craggy totem]

I mean, I 100% was not originally intending to do any Fear runs at all, period 😆

[stoic urchin]

[craggy totem]

But of course they wrapped some of the interactions in Fear requirements, and some of the vows are pretty gentle to start with, so....

[wind heron]

awwwwww i was hoping you could night bloom heracles

[tropic monolith]

just watch out for its really bad targeting, it has a tendency to veer off trying to hit something it can't curve sharply enough to reach

[craggy totem]

What's everyone's favorite Hades blessings?

[hearty idol]

what is the replacement of Medea curse random boon?

[wind heron]

gigaros dash might be one of my top 3 boons period tbh

[tranquil wren]

the seeking cast is fun imo

[jaunty night]

gigaros dash is so sigma

[hearty idol]

i meant before 1.0 medea has a boon which we can curse enemies with 10 cooldown i think

[jaunty night]

idk what compelled me to use that word

[tranquil wren]

erm what the sigma

[stoic urchin]

gigaros dash, cast

ig go dark one

i dont like the "only final fight" ones very much 💔

[wind heron]

very labubu of you, as the kids say

[tropic monolith]

I wish the final fight ones couldn't be awarded randomly, they're such downers.

20% health off ||when both the final bosses have multiple phases that it doesn't touch?||

[craggy totem]

Curse like morph them? That's one of Circe's now. Or if you just mean enemy curses with cooldowns generally speaking, she has one you can unlock by increasing bond with her that does damage when you apply a curse to a new enemy (1s cooldown)

[jolly hound]

I will say that knuckle bones plus that boon phasing the final boss for free kicks ass tho

[jaunty night]

... i have a screenshot of my save select when i had 67 clears....

[jaunty night]

circe can morph enemies? how

wait let me guess it's for DD

[craggy totem]

No, it's not DD, but you have to max her bond

[fair patrol]

goonna fight Promethewus again

[craggy totem]

I'm trying to remember what the specific conditions are for it to apply but it's a chance to morph enemies with 10s cooldown

[devout cairn]

goon him down

[craggy totem]

Omega moves have 15% chance to morph, that was it

[fair patrol]

New incantation idea:
Incantation of Prometheus
Adds a board to the screen for memory game which shows all attacks

[craggy totem]

I have eavesdropped on enough convos to pick up that the big H2 nerds don't think much of omega moves in most cases, but as a dyed-in-the-wool rando I use 'em enough that I'll pick that boon if the other two suck

[stoic urchin]

that takes out like 100% of the fun

[fair patrol]

hey I ended the fight with 1 dd this time

[fair patrol]

or is it 2

[jaunty night]

if you can't be bothered to remember (epimetheus ahh bozo ) you can dash through the flames

[fair patrol]

I can't remember

[paper marsh]

can we buff kudos gains omg this is ridiculous i have like 150 nights with the game finished and still massively short on kudos

[jaunty night]

i have max but i probably have to yap with her a couple times more

[craggy totem]

Maybe just bad RNG?

[paper marsh]

why are cosmetics the hardest part of this game

[craggy totem]

How many total kudos do you have earned based on the info on the saveslot?

[jaunty night]

cuz they're non-mandatory side content

[fair patrol]

not again

spawn of typhon

[paper marsh]

68k

i have 0 left for animal appearances, music maker and the || figurines ||

[craggy totem]

Whoa. At ~170 nights I have nearly 100k.

[paper marsh]

im at 142

never ignored resources

[craggy totem]

Have you been selling all the reagents you don't need and stuff? And farming the plot at home?

[fair patrol]

typhon again

[paper marsh]

yep

[fair patrol]

I'm scared

[jaunty night]

have you been using the thirsty weapons?

[paper marsh]

sometimes

[craggy totem]

Thirsty weapons also give gemstones, not just bones (assuming you did all the incantations), which are a guaranteed 500 kudos for every cleared run

[paper marsh]

500 is still nothing

[simple sierra]

adds up tho. 50k in 100 runs

[paper marsh]

when an animal appearance is like what 3500 im not doing 7 runs xd

[craggy totem]

I mean, you don't have to unlock it if you don't want :P

[fair patrol]

HI ZEUS

[craggy totem]

I'm just saying like, your kudos to runs rate is below 50% and mine's nearly 60%, so the small things add up, probably

[paper marsh]

ok but i want it why make it so exclusive and hard to earn

[neon isle]

you can easily get a thousand in a run if youre picking up resources to sell

[fair patrol]

WAIT NO I DIED

[simple sierra]

if I have ||greatest gift of gaia|| there's zero need to manually grab resources right?

[jaunty night]

it's not exclusive, and hard to earn enough only if you wanna get absolutely everything

[fair patrol]

ON THE FINAL PHASE

[craggy totem]

Yep

[thorn fog]

hey, guys. I completed both Chaos Below from chaos trials but didn't finish the Improbable Outcomes prophecy... Any ideas?

[devout cairn]

now do it again but better

[simple sierra]

2 in a row?

[thorn fog]

yes

[craggy totem]

You need Above and Below, not two Belows

[simple sierra]

I got it with 2 belows in a row

[thorn fog]

hmm, I'll keep trying then

[simple sierra]

I think it's just about 2 consecutive clears cuz you can technically farm your first seed

[thorn fog]

thanks

[simple sierra]

so the 2nd clear is the intended chaos clear

[craggy totem]

I see 👍

[tranquil wren]

I got it with Great Chaos Below and then Chaos Below

[craggy totem]

Imagine going straight to Great Chaos 😆

[fair patrol]

how to beat typhon I suck

[simple sierra]

moar dmg lets you facetank him

[tranquil wren]

tbf I did it for the achievement Chaos in Hell

[verbal rampart]

You fought Typhon? Well then you're better than me. I can't even beat Prometheus!

[fair patrol]

didn't you finish the game

[tropic monolith]

there's already no fun in the memory game so that's okay

[verbal rampart]

Nope, I just spoiled myself everything because I don't care about spoilers

Now I deleted my game and I'm trying to get on the top from the beginning

[tropic monolith]

||bait chin slams by fighting up close and dodging away as soon as you see the flash of warning, use that for easy dps time; dodge then dodge again when he launches the seeking ball. Dodge the laser swipe from the eye - if you're up close it can fail to hit you (The tentacle part is not a hurtbox) and late phase be ready for it to swing back very quickly - pre-dodge for that.

Overall just keep your cool and watch his attacks, he doesn't do all that many different things and you can learn to avoid them.||

[tropic monolith]

Doubling down, it's not even thematic: Prom is the one with foresight, Mel suddenly "seeing it coming ahead of time" is weird and nonsense.

[graceful badger]

A memory game is not great for accessibility and unusual in these games, I wouldn't be shocked to have the option to skip it.

[fair patrol]

I'm gonna fight Eris

[craggy totem]

Anything timing-based is not great for accessibility (i.e., all of this realtime combat). There's no such thing as a universally accessible experience, it's a matter of choosing what you need to convey the experience and what's extraneous.

That's before you even get into the question of competing access needs :P

[tropic monolith]

a memory game does not convey the experience, as I just noted Mel is not the one with foresight.

And it adds a completely extraneous layer of requirements on top of the normal dodging requirements, which it still has.

[craggy totem]

I should have tagged my reply as being to Mamouthron's comment!

[limpid oar]

The game lets you pause, pause buffering and noting down where to go is your accessibility option

If you can't get through the memory game even with the ability to pause as often as you like, then just use godmode and tank it

[graceful badger]

Faaaaair point.

[tropic monolith]

Or remove the gameplay that's completely unrelated to any other skill test in the game and doesn't add value to the encounter

[fair patrol]

moon water sucks without path of stars

[tropic monolith]

it's very much one of the worst without upgrades, yeah

[limpid oar]

Nah i think it's a cool and unique mechanic

[fair patrol]

15 ealth is nothing

[graceful badger]

Yeah that's why I mention it's unusual in an action roguelike and not something someone starting would assupe to need to be able to do. But the pause makes it all a bit of a moot point on my part.

[tropic monolith]

there's a ton of "cool and unique" mechanics that could be added and would also be completely unrelated to any other skill test.

[tropic monolith]

it's ... not really a great answer to say "Just do something outside of the action game taking advantage of the pause feature"; that's a bandaid at most.

[amber oasis]

I like the memory game I think that it’s a good opportunity to cool off in the middle of the most hectic boss fight in the game

[tropic monolith]

they could have added a DDR sequence to Scylla's fight!

[amber oasis]

Additionally, I can remember stuff that happened ten seconds ago so it’s not really a skill barrier for me

[tranquil wren]

tbh it's a lot easier to dodge the waves instead of memorising their placements

[fair patrol]

promteheus memory game sucks I can't remember at all

[tranquil wren]

now it's just your ability to dash in a consistent timing, not memorisation

[tropic monolith]

my biggest complaint about it remains that it doesn't fit thematically

It fits Prom. It doesn't fit that Mel gets to know it.

[tranquil wren]

well melinoe sees other enemies' aoe attacks, it's the same premise

[tropic monolith]

and even for Prom it would be way more fitting if he tried to shove you somewhere an attack was going to come, so if you evaded away it would whiff.

Him being the originator and just warning you ahead of time is ???

[tawdry aurora]

does caribdis even exist? i made 10+ runs in the surface and not a single encounter

[fair patrol]

yes

[tropic monolith]

my tldr is: It doesn't take foresight when it's a self fulfilled prophecy.

[limpid oar]

Idk what that is but it sounds fun

[tranquil wren]

well keep in mind prometheus doesn't want to make it impossible for melinoe to proceed, in fact he wants her to win

[tropic monolith]

I'm not gonna lie, it's really badly implemented and can be rare.

If you want to grind for her use one of the chaos trials in the rift.

[glossy shadow]

Isn't prommy canonically testing us? I've always interpreted it as he telegraphs his big attacks for the specific purpose of being beatable

[unkempt zodiac]

The game is kinda unclear as to why they fight...

[tawdry aurora]

caribdis is needed to get the vow of rivals lv2, right?

[tranquil vine]

i killed chronchron 5 times, do i keep fighting him or try overground?

[fair patrol]

mount olympus charon or npc you can talk to

[tropic monolith]

that's why it's really badly implemented, yeah

[fair patrol]

chronos?

[tropic monolith]

once Zag can't hear you anymore, you go up. It should tell you when that happens.

[tawdry aurora]

beating him in chaos trials counts?

[tranquil wren]

there's dialogue after his deaths that imply he's training you for typhon. the premise is similar to hecate testing you in erebus

[tropic monolith]

you just need to see him for your book afaik, so the trial should work

That might need a kill? Not sure honestly, I lucked into it with rng

[glossy shadow]

"the strength to beat the both of us... I don't see any way for it to be stopped now 😏"

[scenic gust]

doing a re-run and it took 25 nights getting to the epilogue. Lmao it's fast pace

[verbal rampart]

Wow you're good!

[fair patrol]

DIVINE INTERVENSION

[scenic gust]

800 hours already so yeahhhh Even seeing the god 3d model before that god can show up

[scenic gust]

Divine slow-poke suffering. Already clear the room then she shows up

[fair patrol]

going to fight prometheus now

[buoyant matrix]

https://youtu.be/iDfSTMw9qsI?si=RDBj86UEnwNqRNsd

[fair patrol]

1. mid
2. mid, bottom
3. top, mid

[little mason]

I just dash into the flames now since the timing is so easy now

[graceful badger]

Sure, but it's not untrue to say there's not already a way to avoid the minigame. Could be better, but given the mediocre polish on this game I wouldn't expect more.

[fair patrol]

this memory game sucks I can't remember anything

[craggy totem]

Multiple ways, even.

[fair patrol]

I don't know how to dodge

[little mason]

U dont need memorize just dash into the flames at the right time just count down

[tropic monolith]

...damn I wish I could disagree but the polish does feel lacking for what I expected

[graceful badger]

For a supergiant games, I was pretty bummed.

[tropic monolith]

you can always use the "pause and write it down" trick if saying the safe spot out loud doesn't work

[fair patrol]

I did I still can't

[tropic monolith]

The keywording in the descriptions horrifies me, I don't even understand what happened there

[little mason]

😭 👆

[tropic monolith]

then just ... practice the timing. Specifically pay attention to as each flame comes and dodge right before it.

You'll wipe out a few times but get it eventually. Use a chaos trial to get there faster?

[fair patrol]

which one

[tranquil wren]

the gameplay in this is superb. you're taking one instance of a slightly unconventional attack to say the whole game is unpolished? there's like no way

[little mason]

That one right there

[scenic gust]

Just yell it out loud repeatedly

[tropic monolith]

no; I mean I specifically called out the keywording in skill descriptions as my biggest issue with lack of polish?

[tranquil wren]

your dash has iframes. it doesn't matter where you dash, just dash

[little mason]

It's fine

[craggy totem]

^I got stuck in one of those hourglass time fields in a Chronos fight the other day and survived the instakill by iframing with dash even though I was too far to reach the safe spot

[graceful badger]

No, I'm saying the game lacks polish compared to Hades 1 AND i'm slightly annoyed at the minigame, for which I can't hope for a fix because of point 1.

[tranquil wren]

what is the lack of polish

[tropic monolith]

Trial of Glory was pretty easy iirc

[little mason]

On my shoes

[tranquil wren]

polish your shoes!

[warm dust]

"mediocre polish" because people can't hold 4 things in their head for 5 seconds??

[jaunty night]

wdym, i'm right here 🇵🇱

[scenic gust]

You just need to yell out the positions repeatedly. As long as you stay focused, the flame ain't gonna get ya.

[little mason]

I didn't come here to play a memory game let me smash and face tank the dmg hur dur

[jaunty night]

appropriate name

[tropic monolith]

• Homing projectiles that don't track the target directly in front of them
• Poor keywording/inconsistent behavior in arcana/boon descriptions
• Awkward menu selection for inventory (Why doesn't it default to the first slot with a selectable item when I bring up planting seeds or gifting?)
• Balance between weapon aspects
• Balance in rivals increased difficulty (Hello Scylla/Poly)
• Balance among arcana cards and their costs (4 cost card options are awful if you want only 2 of each cost level, for a specific example. And 1 costs are overloaded good)

[tranquil wren]

unironically you can facetank it with strength

[craggy totem]

The Prometheus fire waves you mean? I have in fact facetanked with strength a few times lol

It's so bad when I get distracted for a sec and like, everything is off by one? Like I missed one in the middle so all my subsequent memorizations are incorrect. Strength MVP

[scenic gust]

Every slow projectile boon makes his flame look like old timer.

[fair patrol]

what do I do I'm so bored I keep dying

[little mason]

I agree unseen should be nerfed its to good

[tropic monolith]

take a break

[jaunty night]

turn on god mode

[tranquil vine]

play silksong

[fair patrol]

I did

[jaunty night]

get a dodgemaxxing build, they're hilarious

[craggy totem]

Gale my BFF

[scenic gust]

Medea breaks his leg. Hermes slows him down. And bully him with dodge boon

[pale pier]

Just realized that I do have all the fish caught, Poseidon just freaking hates me and refuses to unlock his heart

[simple sierra]

my 2nd chaos below run ended up being a near hitless run cuz it was so heavy lol, my first hitless chronos (he had dialog for if you never take a hit!)

[little mason]

Can you blame him?

[tranquil wren]

which homing projectiles?
I've never had any confusion with wording choices
never had a problem with it on keyboard + mouse
all weapon aspects work perfectly well for 32F and below. obviously there are variances in higher difficulty gameplay
rivals poly is easy
arcana cards are balanced fine as well

[jaunty night]

i just had him roast toula cuz cats hate water lmao

[tranquil wren]

also rivals scylla gets better with practice

[pale pier]

If he can give a random cow his heart, he can give it to me tf

[jaunty night]

rivals scylla is hard but like... that's the point?

[pale pier]

Poseidon is the only god I am missing max hearts with

[jaunty night]

if you say stuff like that stay away lol, also ew..

[scenic gust]

How dare ye insult the gacha god by catching all his denizens without him

[tranquil wren]

<@&456908176877551658> quick there's someone saying a slur

[jaunty night]

bro hasn't met medea

[scenic gust]

Fishing is bonding time with Uncle Gachaseidon

[simple sierra]

thought it was plausible irony at first but oop that kept escalting

[jaunty night]

yeah idk

[tranquil wren]

people like that have no soul. an empty life

[simple sierra]

love how quick the mods were

[craggy totem]

Poseidon more like POSeidon >:(

[scenic gust]

Anotherrrrrrr

[jaunty night]

hades 2 turned me from bi to fully gay (romanced than i h1 and h2 has absolutely stinky female romance options)

[tranquil wren]

have another! haha yes!

[tropic monolith]

homing projectiles are Howling Soul cast, Hel ospecial and to a lesser extent sheep hex

And the rest is you just saying "Things are perfect the way they are" which is ... not a good rebuttal 😛

[craggy totem]

This is Eris slander

[simple sierra]

we should make a group

[jaunty night]

wait if my mel dates icarus does that actually make me straight?

[tranquil wren]

the cast worked perfectly well for me idk what you're on about

[jaunty night]

have you MET her????

[craggy totem]

YES

[pale pier]

Hades 1 and Hades 2 made me realize that I do am in fact into mean women 💔

[little mason]

If I date hecate what does that make me?

[tropic monolith]

h2 is turning me ||straight from Mel's perspective because yeah what is up with those female romance options. Nem is okay but so annoying with the door stealing and Eris is ...???||

[scenic gust]

Dating Doom makes you closer to death?

[craggy totem]

I mean they're brothers so literally speaking, yes?

[jaunty night]

i really like nem and eris design wise but NOT as a partner

[craggy totem]

If you have an appreciation for the sort of frenemy type shipping, Eris is a fabulous exemplar. Nemesis is a bit more... I see what they were going for but I'm not sure they got there

[little mason]

Door stealing I hate her so

[jaunty night]

all my appreciation went to scylla

[craggy totem]

Hahaha fair enough

[tropic monolith]

...I'd take a scylla option over ||Eris||

[simple sierra]

I love how someone problematic comes in and as soon as they're dealt with chat immediately takes a turn for the gay realizing it's been a while since the last disc

[frank mulch]

thx for the ping that was evil. i banned them

[spring root]

Just downloaded hades 2 and oh my god I can sprint

[pale pier]

Nemesis is just Meg

[tropic monolith]

except with less character development

[craggy totem]

Yeah but there's a lot more extended grumpiness without much in the way of -- yeah Binary got there first

[little mason]

Thanks for putting him back in the closet

[jaunty night]

(also standard disclaimer that it's my personal opinion, if you like eris that's totally fine you do you, just remember to always take her along to any party you might attend)

[craggy totem]

I'm so 110% here for Nemesis in theory, the execution just wasn't quite there for me

[devout cairn]

I cannot believe people prefer options like Moros and Icarus over Nem or Eris 😭 "Mel i'm so nice and polite and considerate of your feelings" okay bro that's nice now can you stop being boring I'm not gonna date you IRL I want to be entertained

[scenic gust]

Familiar taming.

[craggy totem]

Whereas IMO Eris hit the specific note that it was aiming for (although it's a more divisive/controversial note) (appropriately for Eris LMAO)

[tranquil wren]

icarus is a cutie pie

[verbal rampart]

Moros is not boring, he is polite

[simple sierra]

prometheus is my fav but he's a boss 😔

[tropic monolith]

agreed, I was like "Oh this is a cool relationship" then it felt like it got forced into finishing instead of developing properly

[pale pier]

Hades 2 had more options, but they all felt like copy of hades 1 romances. Moros is literally Thanatos, and Nem is just Meg

[devout cairn]

cough boring cough

[scenic gust]

You are dating Doom. He can make you return to the Shadow now faster than speed of light

[craggy totem]

This is ||Eris and Icarus|| slander

[pale pier]

And Eris is just annoying, sorry not sorry

[jaunty night]

don't fix what ain't broken eh? nice that they added more options tho

[tranquil wren]

yeah prometheus and scylla are the best

[simple sierra]

im ngl moros made me get the whole nice guys finish last thing cuz yea a little boring

[tranquil vine]

can we get a chaos romance 0w0

[buoyant matrix]

yo ad what's up, will embed perms ever come back? also now that the big initial hype has died will slowmode be reduced to 10 seconds or less? 👀

[craggy totem]

Chaos is above romance

[simple sierra]

YES okay we're on the same page

[jaunty night]

if there's a hades 3 i'm betting chaos will be in baby form so uhhh

[pale pier]

That’s our freaking great great great grandpamom dawg 💔

[little mason]

I was really disappointed when bouldy wasn't a romance option

[tropic monolith]

Have you seen that hair?

[tranquil vine]

did i stutter?

[scenic gust]

Disintegration on sight

[jaunty night]

literally gigachad meme

[craggy totem]

I wanted Mel to at least have an attempt with ||Arachne and with Medea|| and that's where I'm at with my final word

[devout cairn]

bro rolled the Doom class and still managed to be boring

[tranquil wren]

medea would be a bit too weird. idk if she killed her kids in this version of the mythology or not

[scenic gust]

Medea cursed her lover.

[craggy totem]

I'm here for weird, if you couldn't tell :P

[tropic monolith]

oh and lack of polish - Mel has an armored leg, but it's the leg she puts behind her in her combat stance.

That's completely backwards.

[pale pier]

YESSSS. Idc about Arachne, but damn, they put Medea, and left Jason out and didn’t let us romance her 💔

[tranquil wren]

tbf jason deserved it

[craggy totem]

100% he deserved it, that jerk

[scenic gust]

But her vengeance is red flag

[craggy totem]

Greek heroes generally.... jerks the lot of em

[pale pier]

Jason abandoned and cheated on Medea who HERA herself blessed for him, who literally left everything and did everything for him.

[unkempt zodiac]

Arachne was like... ||grieving about their condition||, I thought I would deepen trust but then she just started saying generic dialogue again 😭 I wonder if I have to talk to Athena more?

[little mason]

I could of fixed her

[jaunty night]

i liked theseus portrayal

[tranquil vine]

what to build with pan daggers? im only familiar with straights

[tranquil wren]

theseus ditched ariadne on naxos, never forgive him

[verbal rampart]

He deserved it 100%

[jaunty night]

and heracles and odysseus and achilles too tbh

[scenic gust]

Uncle Gachaseidon

[jaunty night]

swap to morrigan

[simple sierra]

If you cheat on a woman who MURDERED HER BROTHER FOR YOU yeah you kinda deserve what's coming your way after

[pale pier]

Jason wouldn’t have been a hero if not for Medea. I will never consider him a hero, he’s nothing without Medea’s help. Medea is the hero in the story, even Medea was granted a good afterlife, even immortality in some sources and not him 💀

[tranquil vine]

IDK HOW TO UINLOCK IT. I HAVE MEL dags at max but arti refuses to help

[simple sierra]

if not from a justice standpoint, from a "could you not see this coming???" one

[scenic gust]

May the power of the sea slap with Pan

[tranquil wren]

need a non-mel aspect at max

[jaunty night]

wait why is pan good with poseidon

[devout cairn]

man if a woman murdered her brother for me I'd be gone so fast

[pale pier]

It’s the disrespect for Hera too. Hera literally gave Medea to him and trusted Jason. Imagine cheating and doing that stuff when HERA is your patron.

[tranquil vine]

im a moron

[simple sierra]

read this as the first boss of bloodborne

[tranquil wren]

tbf I think it used to be you had to have 5 nightmare invested into the weapon, but v1.0 seems to have changed it

[unkempt zodiac]

Poseidon, hestia, Zeus. You can get some wild damage with that. (Zeus on the attack, not the special)

[buoyant matrix]

it used to be having any aspect maxed out now it's spending 5 nightmare

[scenic gust]

Every special dagger counted. Pure raw damage. Plus steam if you get Auntie Hestia help

[tranquil wren]

people only get the hidden aspect after maxing a non-mel aspect and having the other aspects in that weapon unlocked as well

[scenic gust]

Or you can try Water torch Mel on the attack

[tranquil wren]

at least, that's the common thing I see here

anyway, it can't hurt you to max other aspects

[tropic monolith]

it definitely needs a non-mel aspect maxed

[scenic gust]

Mel:"Geve mehhhh the ultimate stafff auntie Circe"

[tropic monolith]

I was stuck at 4/6 hidden for ages and that was the difference

[buoyant matrix]

because maxing out a non mel aspect happens to need exactly 5 nightmare

[tropic monolith]

hmm

Okay, it could be 5 nightmare invested 😄

[scenic gust]

Spamming Charon Shop for his delivery

[tropic monolith]

I'm not sure I ever did a partial upgrade like that

[craggy totem]

I had lots of partial upgrades scattered around meself but I wasn't keeping track of when things became available

[scenic gust]

May the power of gold bring ye Nightmare (literally)

[tranquil wren]

so it would work if you spread the upgrades between two of the aspects?

[nocturne grove]

what even is the speed increase on thanatos axe

[crude dragon]

Attack speed

[broken glen]

I’m pretty sure they changed it in a recent update so that was the case

[nocturne grove]

no how much

[crude dragon]

40% at max rank

[buoyant matrix]

that's how we found out it's spending 5 nightmares and not maxing a non mel aspect
apparently someone got shiva while having selene and nyx both at level 4 or something

[nocturne grove]

ok not using it

[scenic gust]

Charon becomeing Doordash delivery in the crossroad is hilarious

[tranquil wren]

I see ty

[broken glen]

I call the Hermes shrines Amazon 🤑

[pale pier]

Do you guys think Charon nowadays accepts cash app and PayPal since we don’t have drachmas anymore

[scenic gust]

For the god of Speed. His delivery is slow 5/10

[tranquil wren]

I always wondered about what Charon even buys with the money

[craggy totem]

He's got other customers.... you can always pay for instant shipping ;P

[broken glen]

There’s an ATM at the entrance of Styx for conversion

[scenic gust]

Golden boat and canoe

[fair patrol]

going to try fire 6

[crude dragon]

Yes, I too hate using an axe that's 40% faster and can stack up 20% crit rate for the Omegas

[craggy totem]

Isn't it canonical that he's not buying anything with the money

[tranquil wren]

in H2 I think he wants to collect as much as he can to get rid of it, right?

[fair patrol]

underworld

[crude dragon]

He just melts it down like Heph does

[pale pier]

They got a Wells Fargo

[craggy totem]

Yee

[nocturne grove]

and then you lose all bonuses against bosses

[tranquil wren]

but in H1 I've no clue what his reasoning is. nor in the actual mythology

[crude dragon]

Just dodge

[broken glen]

Oh so that’s what the wells of Charon are

[nocturne grove]

I could be dodging with a weapon that doesnt punish me for getting hit

[pale pier]

He gives it to Hades, that’s why Hades is the god of riches

[craggy totem]

Good point about H1, and also I have never thought about the original myth motivation lol

[crude dragon]

Than is an aspect that gets better as you get better

[scenic gust]

Secretly Charon is a rapper dying his teeth gold and has a hit song Aerghhhhhhhh.

[crude dragon]

Still more intelligible than most mumble rappers

[tranquil wren]

I always thought that was because of all the minerals in the Earth and not the coins itself, but I guess it can't hurt

[broken glen]

I hope he collabs with Scylla!!!

[buoyant matrix]

charon spends the money feeding his nitrous oxide addiction you can clearly see the gas coming out his mouth

[craggy totem]

I hope someone makes a fansong that is a Scylla/Charon collab

[nocturne grove]

thats every aspect

[scenic gust]

I don't think come all Arghhhhh sailors really rhythm

At least Charybdis can do the low hellish hum

[craggy totem]

Actually, best musical collab ideas from H2, go

[crude dragon]

Most aspects don't reward you with a rank 2 Antler without the max HP loss

[dreamy forum]

guys what the hell do i use psyche now that i am max grasp

[nocturne grove]

correct, cuz most aspects dont need the crit chance to do damage

[scenic gust]

Sell it for the soulsssss

[craggy totem]

There are some unlocks/incantations that require it iirc

[crude dragon]

Artemis knives

[nocturne grove]

they will simply do damage

[nocturne grove]

they both suck whats your point bro

[crude dragon]

Okay, at this point I have to assume you're just ragebaiting

[dreamy forum]

i dont need kudos when i already got 10k and got the achievement

[tropic monolith]

at some point you unfortunately run out of things to spend anything on

[craggy totem]

Then you don't need to do anything with it. Or I guess you could view it as there's nothing you can do with it.

[dreamy forum]

4/10 ragebait

[scenic gust]

But the decoration

[fresh kelp]

Guys what gives me s reed I forgot again

[crude dragon]

Summit seeds

[craggy totem]

Plant the planktons

[dreamy forum]

i am only willing to spend kudos on artemis' area

artemis best girl dont fight me on this

[craggy totem]

It is kind of funny to lavish kudoses on Nem's area though. Trolling her.

[tranquil wren]

you're missing out on an artemis chthonic chid

[halcyon finch]

I have spent the most on nem cuz i find it amusing

[fair patrol]

timer is at 8mins and I'm at scylla is that good or am I slow

[jaunty night]

good

[devout cairn]

I resent all of the kudos I spent on anything that was not the pet skins. Really the only thing worth spending kudos on in the entire game.

thanks game for not telling me those were gonna be really expensive

[tropic monolith]

but having tons of empty glass jars for Dora to rearrange is important

[scenic gust]

How dare ye skipped the Funko Poppp

[fair patrol]

scylla done in 20 seconds

moros flames is really good

[unkempt zodiac]

Ya

[craggy totem]

Enrichment for your Shade habitats 💯

[dreamy forum]

dude im trying to get ||chrono's|| keepsake but he just doesnt appear in the erebus clearing

[craggy totem]

RNG is a cruel master

[dreamy forum]

like i have had atleast 12 attempts since the ending

[craggy totem]

That's wild...

[dreamy forum]

why does rng do me so dirty like this

[devout cairn]

are you dying after it

[tropic monolith]

having things like that gated by full rng is ... actually another notch on the lack of polish.

Rivals 2, keepsakes, etc. shouldn't be missable for ages because of rng screw

[dreamy forum]

i was leveling up keepsakes while doing that

[pine mesa]

hey do any of you know if there's a way to stop my weapons from locking on to enemies and instead precisely follow my cursor?
nvm figured it out haha

[dreamy forum]

so i didnt kms and kept going

[tropic monolith]

there's an aim assist option you can disable

[craggy totem]

I was having difficulty even in the start of the campaign with this wrt reagent RNG for the surface incantation 😔

[dreamy forum]

rivals 2 is gatekept behind rng? well i havent tried rivals but thats annoying

[tropic monolith]

you need to find ||Charybdis|| in the rift to be allowed to unlock rivals 2

[dreamy forum]

yeah ive killed him a couple of times

[tropic monolith]

at least that can be bypassed by getting a familar upgraded to +50% material rate, then they appear nuts-commonly

[craggy totem]

Her, Scylla and Charybdis were nymphs that got turned into monsters

[cosmic pelican]

hello I'd like to lodge a complaint about the great chaos trial giving me the antler xD

[tropic monolith]

then you'll have no issue with getting it once you complete 1 on both bosses 🙂

[dreamy forum]

just be good at the game duh

[craggy totem]

Not sure I had the mats for that so early in the campaign either!

[cosmic pelican]

user error

[dreamy forum]

gotcha, well i have to do 16 fear anyways

[tropic monolith]

oh probably not, but it's at least something you can address directly

Getting a specific miniboss or NPC to randomly spawn in a room has no option but grind and pray

...especially a specific miniboss in Rift, where they're already rare to encounter any

[dreamy forum]

speaking of 16 fear, what weapon should i use when i do an attempt?

[tropic monolith]

strong ranged options are good, like circe staff

[fair patrol]

why can cerebeus summon taratrus enemies
I have the fear thing but I thought he can only summon mourning fields

[pine mesa]

i might be biased but meliones staff seems better in just about every case

[devout cairn]

that vow affects boss summons

[dreamy forum]

Would black coat special be good for it?

[pine mesa]

the ranged approach means you can play super safe all the time

[tropic monolith]

not amazing, it's fairly low damage

I mean you can do it with anything. If you're most comfortable with black coat, that's a fine option

tbh I just started running it with whatever weapon gave bonus bones until I figured things out enough to win 😛

[craggy totem]

Ah yes, the 🦴us

[ivory zodiac]

how do i unlock born to win prophecy?

[tropic monolith]

I was given it by having the embryo equipped and talking to Chaos enough

...uncertain how high relationship had to be, I did prioritize that one

[dreamy forum]

i really like black coat's special along with either hestia's flourish or poseidon's flourish

[craggy totem]

Is it my imagination or is Shiva special meatier than the other aspects'?

[crude dragon]

In terms of damage? Yes

[tropic monolith]

truthfully the best weapon to run for a first fear 16 attempt is one you're comfortable with, otherwise you'll be spending focus trying to figure out a weapon while adjusting to scarier enemies

[fair patrol]

what if the weapon I like is bad

[tropic monolith]

...I was operating under the assumption you could win with it normally, before attempting 16 fear with it

[fair patrol]

I haven't but I like it

[tropic monolith]

figure out what boons you need for the build to pop off then and win with brute force

[nocturne grove]

Does the game count chaos trials as runs in the run counter

[tropic monolith]

yeeeep 😐

[nocturne grove]

Oh thats why the number is high

[tropic monolith]

I find it very annoying

[nocturne grove]

I thought I was just horrible

[shy lotus]

Does the boon that makes your attacks inflict wound apply to dash-strike too?

[craggy totem]

Also if you try to visit the Surface before you have the incantation, ask me how I know 😆

[fair patrol]

you have to die on the surface for the incantation though

[tropic monolith]

at least twice

[craggy totem]

I went Manie Tiem 😆

"Perhaps this time I will move fast enough and see the stuff I nee--" dies

[fair patrol]

what's the farthest you can reach the surface without incantation

[crude dragon]

Third room, usually

[tranquil vine]

whats the best duo with aphro for the daggers?

[crude dragon]

What Aphro boon are you using?

[tranquil vine]

attack dmg

[crude dragon]

Bad. Bad. Do not.

[tranquil vine]

flutter strike thjat is. 140%

[crude dragon]

Aphro attack is for weapons with high base damage, not for any melee weapon. Knives want on-hits like splashes or Scorch

You don't take Aphro attack on knives if you don't at least get +20 power hammer

[tranquil vine]

i just got that lmao

[crude dragon]

Yeah, but it's +140% of 10 damage

As opposed to a splash that hits for 25 each and gives you desperately-needed AoE

[granite wigeon]

pissidon is good for daggers

you should get that aries duo and stuff, zeus is also good, anything not based on base dmg

[fair patrol]

ares*
poseidon*
zioeuses*

learen to spel

[granite wigeon]

yahweh dlc when

[fair patrol]

can concave stone choose a sacrifice boon

[round token]

heroic task force from athena on poseidon moon well 😭 6 godsent uses that give a extra 40 hp and 500 magik

[hollow lily]

Just hopped on Reddit only to see that charming the hour glass Heals you 100hp per tick. Holy moly I have a Strategy for 67 fear chronos

[fair patrol]

67!!!!!!!!!

[crude dragon]

Sure can

[round token]

if you take the hex that lets you res enemies to fight for you and get the thing that makes them never expire you can have a perma healing buddy

[hollow lily]

That hex was always useless to me but apparently he used ecstatic charm

[iron thicket]

Sheep best hex

[buoyant matrix]

only heals for 1 hp with scars3

and it's like 1 tick every second

[hollow lily]

Dude was running fear 58, I highly doubt scars wasn't set

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hades2/s/vwrPzwKnWH

[buoyant matrix]

i have regularly night bloom'd those on 62 and i guarantee you the healing is ass

also that's UR chronos which means there's 4 fear missing elsewhere

comments are saying it's specifically that much healing with charmed enemies, but he's also said he's running scars0, huh...

[bleak ice]

hey guys question (for context i havent finished the game yet) is there an equivalent of resource director in hades 2? trying to figure out what resources i must hoard

[buoyant matrix]

yes, you need boss drops and a ton of kudos

get the greatest gift of gaia asap

[bleak ice]

kudos? so i can just burn the psyche and plants and whatever then?

[tidal cliff]

This game has to be trolling me this is my 6th Apollo boon with no light smite

[graceful badger]

There's one, but first you'll get decorations for which you trade superfluous ressources for kudos. And it lets you know what ressources you can safely trade since they won't be needed anymore.

[bleak ice]

oh youre right! I always wondered what those little signs are. thanks!

[rough horizon]

Ok, I need to ask; is there any special requirement for Poseidon to give me the damn fishing prophecy? He's now talking about me crossing Thessaly, after over 60 wins. Do you need to already have fished during the run before talking to him or something?

[humble urchin]

100hp per tick sounds…a lot? maybe it’s with the crit from the godsent? no clue

[heavy glen]

i got it when i'd already caught a ton of fish

once i got toula i never took her off

[crude dragon]

Does that bypass Scars?

[rough horizon]

I've gotten every kind of fish already, too. He is obviously maxed with nectar, just waiting for the prophecy but he does NOT want to bond

[crude dragon]

Yeah, bond and favor dialogue doesn't get priority for some reason

[heavy glen]

maybe bring toula for good luck

[humble urchin]

almost certain it does but that 100hp per tick sounds wayyy too much

[tropic monolith]

1 per tick

wait; charming the hourglass?

I was seeing 1 per tick from the revive hex, if it's the charm thing it might not lower its healing?

[craggy totem]

There's an Aphrodite boon of some kind that charms one enemy per encounter, it's nice

Separately from the Night Bloom or whatever other thing that requires you to kill them first

Buuuut it's a little annoying that with the non-revived/charmed version, you still have to kill it in order to end the (non-boss) encounter... plus, the fact that you can/should damage/kill it means that you lose whatever benefit it's bringing you if you have smashy smashy attacks 😔

Friendly fire 😩

[stoic urchin]

[tropic monolith]

yeah; that's why I corrected my statement. I've never used the aphrodite one on an hourglass so I'm not sure how much healing it might provide under that

[craggy totem]

Petition for Aphrodite to make it so that we don't have to/can't kill the charmed enemy 😩

[heavy glen]

i got the hex that resurrects an enemy and can do it permanently, it's fun

[craggy totem]

My major beef with that hex is that it feels like it takes the biggest usefulness hit on boss fights, out of all of the hexes.

Like, bosses are immune to morph for example, sure, whatever, but at least you can hit them for a bit of direct damage.

[tropic monolith]

if you get to revive one of those punchy things versus Cerb it takes him down in two sets of attacks

[craggy totem]

Meanwhile you can't even activate Night Bloom for the +5% after activation buff until you have an add to kill.

[tropic monolith]

the revived things do pretty solid damage once you get to phase and can start using them; even more if you have the +500 on first hit

though prommy fight is weird because if you don't jump on the adds quick they just leave

[craggy totem]

The pure suffering of -- yeah, Prometheus.

[tropic monolith]

I don't understand why they do that

[grizzled trench]

my problem with hexes in this game I think is that a good number of them are kinda bad in boss fights

[heavy glen]

one of those utterly destroyed the final surface boss

[grizzled trench]

and when you clear out regular rooms so quickly the boss fights are kind of the only relevant factor?

[heavy glen]

it was so funny

[hollow lily]

God I love gambling, spent 10 bucks on cases and keys for CS knowing I'm probably not getting shieet

[craggy totem]

They looked at Prometheus throwing fire everywhere and went "I don't wanna stick around for that" :P

Although this does make me question the WIS stat of the adds in the Eris fight....

[round token]

broooo
total eclipse crits are actually insane

[tropic monolith]

it would make sense if they leave at the simon says, but they just drop in and ditch shortly after no matter when they're summoned

[craggy totem]

They got so inspired by Prometheus' speeches that they left to spread word of the revolution 👍

[tropic monolith]

tbh if it weren't for them having to have the "I'm jumping out" intentionally coded I'd think it was entirely a bug

As it is, I think it may be a bug with them leaving too quickly 😛

[limpid oar]

I recently had a run where total eclipse was the third highest source of damage, the thing goes crazy when you lean into it

and the first is scorch so probably a notable part of the scorch damage came from total eclipse too

[heavy glen]

yeah, hestia's total eclipse is fire

[rose prism]

i think the game would have been better story wise if the goal was to bring ambrosia to uncle dionysos

[ivory slate]

Im not gonna lie typhon
fan pattern moon beam
Apollo buff
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

[ivory slate]

The game would have been better story wise if i could romance every female character
Why is selene and artemis not yuri goals

[stuck horizon]

guys how do you get the Goddess of Nightmares achievement to trigger? I have every other achievement which is the unlock condition

[limpid oar]

that sounds like a bug

[craggy totem]

TBF Artemis does ||offer to recruit you into her polycule||. That's gotta count as something.

[rough horizon]

I heard you need to move location or start a run to get it

[stuck horizon]

I'll give that a try, thanks

[rose prism]

artemis is a furry

[ivory slate]

Ive dated trans women before so im not unfamiliar with this

[craggy totem]

Man, Shiva is more mana-hungry than the normal coats but it does mean that low-req hexes are just constantly available, huh

Like 90% uptime or something silly

[rough horizon]

Shouldn't be an issue, Mel just needs to learn an incantation to turn into a bear

[wispy storm]

Hey gang I just got the pop up for Dora's bond being completed but I hadn't given her all the avaliable gifts and there's still a locked heart, should I quit out to undo this or?

[craggy totem]

And it wasn't the popup that shows mid-progress?

[river remnant]

is there a way i can turn on the old Auto-Fire ?

[wispy storm]

yeah no like chibi icon and everything

but the book of shadows still shows there's more so im not sure if i just locked myself out of stuff lol

[craggy totem]

Maybe report it as a bug before you undo the thing

[wispy storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919729815031001141/1428822725035561093/image.png?ex=68f3e65b&is=68f294db&hm=e2ac403a291916a7ec82014b33408075cacd395432c7474fb900d876aff740ec&

[crude dragon]

"Let's shine so bright it hurts!"

[dreamy helm]

Dopamine hit

[humble urchin]

wait…it’s not “light that shines so bright it hurts”?

[crude dragon]

It might be? IDK the exact line

[humble urchin]

idk i’m too focused on the massive apollo that takes half my screen to focus on the subtitles kekw

[broken glen]

That feels like it has one too many syllables

[humble urchin]

now that you mention it, it does seem like too many syllables

[craggy totem]

Is it? It's iambic tetrameter with a dropped syllable, isn't it?

[atomic river]

bruh i need to find circe one more time wit the knuckle bones its been 4 runs r we serious

[stuck horizon]

I had this a couple of dayas ago, it's like the chance of seeing her gets cut in half when you have that prophecy

[craggy totem]

Sorry folks, I stole all your RNG. I immediately saw her twice in a row after I got it.

[atomic river]

i literally see her reguarly but when i want to i dont

[stuck horizon]

I hate you

[winter cove]

is the blast from medeas aspect affected by Aphrodite proximity attack boon?

[devout cairn]

yes the blast is the attack

[wispy storm]

you can ||rarify|| artemis, but not chaos

[stuck horizon]

guys I have level 3 heroic strike aspect of thanatos with psychic whirlwind do I ||take on zagreus||

[glacial heart]

Okay I gotta ask a really dumb question. ||I've completed pretty much all of the Black Stone trials, and as far as I'm aware that's the last easy source of Star Dust. ||
||I know I can buy from the shop but that's like 1500 bones so only once every three or four runs from my understanding. ||
||I'm also aware a certain shade will start offering them to you every so often, but that's super reliant on RNGesus. And I also haven't gotten them to that point yet.||
||So like...is there anything else I can do???||

[devout cairn]

ye

[wispy storm]

don't remember what it's called and you may already know about it but that one platform in the biome 4's at 12 fear can sometimes have stardust

And also you can affect how fast you gain bones by taking Poseidon's double up and extra value for finds boons

[nocturne grove]

Does moros pin count for defiance

Top 10 cooked

[stuck horizon]

if it triggers when you die and has the potential to make you not die, it counts as a defiance and de-activates strength

[winter cove]

I learned that the Hard Way, got all the way to Typhon and then equipped it while I had A No Death Defiance run going. It destroyed my Heracles Arcan card

[nocturne grove]

what do you use in place for defense then

[dull whale]

Knuckle Bones and tank with a lot of HP lol

[winter cove]

You get 40 Damage Resistance with Heracles

[dull whale]

Yeah that too

[nocturne grove]

apollo fire is also basically 30% resistance on top

[winter cove]

That's ALOT of damage resistance, combined with other defensive boons and you can stand alot of punishment. Besides.

It's been my experience that Death Defiance while good, leads to you dying alot more. you tend to take more risks and that gets you killed more often. When people lose their death defiance in a boos fight they likely lose it again.

[dull whale]

I was hyper focused on DD because H1 was only DD so I saw Strength and said oh nah no way

Maxed out the card and played around with it and now I love it
It feels really good

[simple sierra]

I've been using stardust to make ambrosia so far, is there anything else I should be saving them for? oops wrong quote

[nocturne grove]

How do you farm shadow

[winter cove]

Besides, You can get Athena Early because you want her defensive boons, not of desperation because your run is toast due to being out of DD, but because you planned for it. You can get Athena quit early with strength.

[dull whale]

Is the dmg reduction with Knuckle Bones additive (50%) or multiplicative (44%) btw?

[dull whale]

This too

[nocturne grove]

If you get athena keepsake in olympus can you bring her over again in summit

[crude dragon]

On a Strength run, you can still go for Pin if you get Stalwart Stand from Athena

[crude dragon]

All damage reductions are multiplicative

[nocturne grove]

Why would you take stalwart stand, thats just you reducing your total hp no

[dull whale]

Ohhh sweet ok
Thanks

[winter cove]

you can bring her wherever you want, if have have no death Defiances. She'll appear in any zone ONLY if you have no death defiance.

You take Stalwart Stand for the insane crit bonus.

[crude dragon]

Stalwart has a crit bonus? It's the "DD that recharges every encounter" Boon

[winter cove]

Oh I was thinking another one lol

[nocturne grove]

wha

[winter cove]

The only reliable way to get Athena for the run to Tartarus is to either suck at the game and lose all your DDs or to plan for a Strength run.

You can get an Athena Boon immediatly in Erebus

[heavy glen]

i still haven't gotten the ambrosia recipe

[marsh spear]

Question: do moon phases have gameplay effects?

[dull whale]

Yeah it's nice to get one of her boons asap

[winter cove]

Athena boons with Strength cards are goated. You can turn into a real tank

[dull whale]

I also love the line you get when picking Divine Dash

"Your brother's favorite"

But yeah she works super well with Strength. I love the synergy

[graceful badger]

It's written, your next paths of stars gives you extra points to spend.

[simple sierra]

I love mag heavy builds with her spears

[crude dragon]

She works nicely with Death as well, since Renewed Faith is absurd

[simple sierra]

Shiva with hades urns and athena lances goes hard

[kind wharf]

Does anyone know if the fair fight achieve (win 1k off nemesis) includes the gold earned pre release?

[dull whale]

Oh yeah absolutely. Super good boom

Athena stays goated what can I say

[crude dragon]

Probably not, since it's something that isn't a one-time check

[marsh spear]

I mean the literal moon phase, as shown in the inventory

[crude dragon]

Her problematic opinions on Arachne notwithstanding

[kind wharf]

I figured but wanted to doublecheck, ty! Swore I earned more than enough already

[hearty timber]

Yes u get more upgrades for a higher moon phase

[marsh spear]

So on a new moon, all hexes will be harder to upgrade

Sorry it's to make sure i understand

[crude dragon]

The physical phase of the moon that you see from the Training Grounds and from the inventory is just flavor

[hearty timber]

I think base upgrade is 0, half moon is +1, full moon is +2

[kind wharf]

[crude dragon]

The other guy's referring to the moonglow from picking your Hex

[marsh spear]

Thanks

[hearty timber]

oh lol

[marsh spear]

Hahaha to be fair it's a hard to formulate question

[crude dragon]

It might have affected what path layout you had at one point in time, but according to people who have looked through the code, it's pretty much just cosmetic

Technically speaking, though, you don't see your first Hex until your first full moon, so there's that

[marsh spear]

Coool

[coral forge]

why do i keep getting nearly the same boon selection after rerolling

[jolly wing]

What are the prerequesites for Verdant Soil incantation to appear?

[crude dragon]

Do you have any slots filled?

[pastel lava]

im stuck trying to get the epilogue of the game im still missing he who labors and he who rebels in the prophesy im pretty sure i know its ||Hermes and Prometheus|| so ive been spamming them but i cant for the life of me get the dialogue i need and Hermes i just giving me small pointless quips now so its feels like i must be missing a part

[crude dragon]

Labors is ||Heracles||

[pastel lava]

ah damn really hermes labors way more for the gods though do iget the dialogue during the rivals duo fight or just whenever he jumps in?

[crude dragon]

Yes, but ||Heracles's whole story is about his Twelve Labors||. And the latter

[hearty timber]

It is most likely || Hermes || because I have a dialogue from him regarding this

[rough horizon]

The latter, but you ||have to beat him first during the VoR fight||

[dense yacht]

How does Arterial Spray interact with the internal cooldown on Poseidon splashes?

[rough horizon]

It isn't

[pastel lava]

i have beaten every boss with rivals but would it be better to to prometheus without rival to get his dialogue then jsut hope for Heracles before then?

[rough horizon]

Yeah, I think that's the optimal path ||beat heracles at least once, then run without vow of rivals so it doesn't interfere with Prom's dialogue||

[pastel lava]

ye thats what i have been doing but focusing on hermes boons cuz i thoguht he was the one laboring for the gods guess i keep grinding for the dialogues at this point the only achi im missing is seeing the epilogue so im wayyy overdue

[craggy totem]

It's a reference to ||The Twelve Labors of Hercules||

Not like literally anyone who does some work for 'em, which in this case would be a whole lotta folks busy-beeing it up

[upper plume]

Losing my mind trying to force ||Animal companion outfits|| but I either don't get ||Circe or she's busy yapping about the plot backlog. Ma'am, yes, I know, I vanquished time, please, PLEASE TEACH ME CUTE OUTFITS ||

[crude dragon]

Don't worry, she'll probably give you her favor first as well because you've also maxed out all your cards

[upper plume]

I would say it's my one critique of both games, but it's only a critique if you've looked things up. Just play the game dummy, and let things come naturally || But I don't wannaaaa||

[thin laurel]

you might be able to just spam thessaly chaos trials to burn through dialogue faster than a full run…? but idt if I’ve run into Circe in a chaos trial so I don’t wanna suggest that then find out she can’t appear there.

works great for any boss dialogue tho

[upper plume]

The trials are probably my favorite addition to the game, lot of good things going for them

[simple sierra]

I have only cleared rivals poly and hecate and have finished the epilogue, you do not need to do any of that as requirements for the prophecy*

re beating ||heracles|| in his vor fight etc

A trials-builder would be ELITE omg. Imagine creating and sharing trials

[unkempt zodiac]

yes.

theres so many good ideas to go with

[kind wharf]

does cherished heirloom only work on your current keepsake or any keepsake u equip after receiving the boon?

[unkempt zodiac]

if thats the +1 keepsake level thing then its permanent

[kind wharf]

it is! so just to make sure, itsll affect any keepsake u equip after taking the boon, even if you switch, correct?

[unkempt zodiac]

yes

[kind wharf]

ty

[rough horizon]

Kind of; there are keepsakes that have no effect if you already have them maxed

[unkempt zodiac]

well thats a special case

thats just keepsakes whose rank up is increasing a rarity, and that has already reached heroic

so god keepsakes let you turn something heroic, dont have a t4. narcissus the same

[kind wharf]

does nergal have an omega attack??

[unkempt zodiac]

yes(?)

[rough horizon]

Yes, it's a spin too

[unkempt zodiac]

every weapon has an omega attack except for hidden skulls 🤫

[kind wharf]

oh, idk why i didnt think it did but i guess i wasnt holding long enough just for the first time i tried the wep

[rough horizon]

It's one of those omegas where you need to do an attack first

[kind wharf]

ohhh, thats probably why

[rough horizon]

So do the attack and keep pressing to start channeling

It hits hard and charges very fast

[craggy totem]

Over 170 nights in and Odysseus finally tells me about King Vermin lmao

[kind wharf]

the way mel is hades' little princess will always be so funny to me lol but she desrves it

[astral parrot]

Hi everyone, I did the test to have a higher terror level and I only won one nightmare, does that technically mean I lost a reward? Do we have to do the contracts 1 by 1??? I find that really strange, did I miss something?

[crude dragon]

No, you didn't

[shrewd basalt]

wassup folks? I0ve been putting Hades 2 on hold for a while now cause of Undertale first, and Silksong now

[crude dragon]

You can overcap on Fear, it'll just fulfill the active contract and nothing more

Just means you don't have to ratchet it up further for a bit, is all

[astral parrot]

Then how I can get my nightmare reward if the contract with a specific fear level is already done ?

[shrewd basalt]

yes you have to go out every night with a new level of fear (or the same but with a different weapon) to get more nightmare

[dreamy forum]

i have gotten 30 achievements hooray

[astral parrot]

it wasn't exactly my question, my question was more, i'm on level 1 with a specific weapon, and I will do directly level 10 of fear, then it will be lock on 10 and I loss 9 nightmare rewrads

[shrewd basalt]

oh no, you haven't

you will see the other reward appearing later on

[astral parrot]

Okay so I did lvl 1 and 10 , later I'm back to lvl 2 then I'll get a reward ?

[shrewd basalt]

they do not stack or get added, simply you overdid it ahahah

[granite wigeon]

lol i beat rivals chronor, bro couldnt handle the moon water face tank

[astral parrot]

ok fine I though that was very strange 😄

[granite wigeon]

actually i only used one

[crude dragon]

Yes

[shrewd basalt]

take it slow for your own sake, go at it by the psecific level of fear required, unless you are at the last one and need to also win something like the statues

[granite wigeon]

ithink

[astral parrot]

okay thanks a lot guys have a good evening ^^

[crude dragon]

Or if you've gotten acclimated to a Vow like Frenzy and Rivals and don't want to re-learn the timings again for the non-Vow versions

[limpid oar]

Does anyone do better in Oceanus when certain songs are playing? I swear Song of the Pearls has got me primed to hiltess the region

[indigo cypress]

All basically the same except Bewitching Eyes makes me play the rivals fight worse

[limpid oar]

aki you know what you need to do as the maintainer of the biggest source of high fear data right

see if any of the songs is overrepresented in UW clears

[indigo cypress]

Ykw I might actually do it when I get the chance while query is still low

50% chance of me lying bc I'll procrastinate

[craggy totem]

That data is out there? :O

[limpid oar]

that means theres a 50% chance of you actually doing it, i will take it

better odds than me winning rivals scylla when i am gonna claw plays

[humble urchin]

coral crown for best chances i’m afraid

[limpid oar]

since song of the pearls playing means you will enter the fight at full hp with a sick build, i think that one does a tiny bit better than coral crown but its close

[twin rivet]

Is there a specific trigger for Bewitching Eyes to play? Because I haven't heard it yet

[limpid oar]

I heard it's hearing all the other songs but I am not sure

[humble urchin]

i got it the first or second time i met her after 1.0, but that was in a file i already played EA in

[limpid oar]

being an ea player makes me so terrible at advising people on prerequisites for things lmao, im just meeting these pre-reqs the moment the features got added 😭

[twin rivet]

Weird, I haven't heard it yet

[twin rivet]

Ngl it's kinda crazy how many incantations I still haven't completed after getting the true ending, getting them in EA was so easy

[limpid oar]

oh wait youre playing new save? uhhhh have you done rivals scylla on there?

[twin rivet]

Yeah

[limpid oar]

ah aight, i was wondering if maybe that wouldve been why you didnt hear bewitching eyes

[humble urchin]

exactly, especially now that some things had their prereqs changed, makes it even more confusing

[simple sierra]

I wasted two godly 20 fear surface testamament runs that could've easily been 24 for the statue 😔 now it's my 2 worst aspects left for surface 20

[shrewd basalt]

I'm not that sofisticated, I go at the monsters based on what I see ahahah

[shrewd basalt]

I know the feeling, I have to still win surface with a couple of weapons (Skull, Torches and Axe for sure...I won with Daggers, Staff and Coat, I think)

[thin laurel]

I feel like I so often end up playing REALLY bad when I luck out with a build sigh. I've had a few attempts that could have been my new personal best for high fear and then I blow all my lovers barriers and armor before I even get to the hard part of the final boss. sigh

[civic sedge]

not being able to dash during most attack animations feels outrageous

[devout cairn]

this game is already so generous with how much it let's you animation cancel by dashing, what attack are you particularly talking about?

[civic sedge]

most long ones iirc

i fully switched to the skull of revaal for that reason

[little mason]

Chop and final axe attack are so slooow

[civic sedge]

lemme try rq, can't quite remember

[limpid oar]

no sincerely give an example, this game allows you to dash during so many animations

[crude dragon]

Fun fact, you can make it so you never see the axe slam

[little mason]

How?

Dash after?
Atk, atk, special.

[civic sedge]

or is there something extending the dash cooldown?

[mystic rune]

extending the cooldown? you want to dash slower?

I know hermes has a boon that makes you be able to dash more often, the way it's worded says " you recover faster from dash"

[mystic rune]

Stutter Step
You can Dash more frequently.
▸ Dash Recovery Speed: +25%/+30%/+35%/+40%

[civic sedge]

no, it's not that i want to dash slower, the attacks definitely extend my dash cooldown

dash
attack
dash cooldown is longer

[little mason]

Did I stut-utter

[civic sedge]

i can notice the dash trail taking slightly longer to vanish

[little mason]

Stutter step is so niche probably the last boon anyone would take since it doesn't increase DPs

[granite wigeon]

bruh a dd only costs 200 lmao

[civic sedge]

i wish i could send a video explaining this

[wispy storm]

Wonder why ||bejewelled pom|| can't be level 4

like, god knows it doesn't need it, but, surely it's as simple as adding 1 again, right?

[lyric zenith]

Isn't that a lot of Hermes boons? I feel like it's quite good, especially if you happen to lean on dash attacks.

Defensive boons are very popular, just look at trusty shield.

[civic sedge]

alright, is there a way to see the boon list from a god?

[lyric zenith]

Codex, there's a hotkey for it.
Might require an incantation to get it.

[wispy storm]

yes after a certain point you get an incantation to add that to the book of shadows

[civic sedge]

i can open the codex

[granite wigeon]

how do i get odysseus to go with me to the surface bruh

[lyric zenith]

The boon list is separate from the codex/book of shadows, if you don't have the incantation for it then you can't use the boon list.

[civic sedge]

tf

[devout cairn]

take knuckle bones with u

[little mason]

Ur asking the wrong question it's how do I get in bed with me

[lyric zenith]

Circe spawnrate is so cooked

[mystic rune]

i feel like i get her almost every time.

[lyric zenith]

She has really bad variance, I think, or there's something weird w/ her RNG that's not well understood.

Saw someone complain they hadn't see her even once after several surface nights, and I had the same experience for a very long time (probably the last character I met in general?)

I've also stopped encountering ||Charybdis||, idk why.

[plucky dew]

i meet him everytime i got down

but couldnt tell u the last time I saw him on the surface

[hollow lily]

Just got flashed by nem and Mel sesbian lex wassup y'all

[lyric zenith]

I think boats might just not show you as many locations.

So if these are set up as rare encounters, they might end being ultra-rare inadvertently.

Don't quote me on that, though, I'm not entirely sure if it's true.

[lyric zenith]

This doesn't seem to be true, you'd need to be more specific.

[cosmic pelican]

oofffff game why do you doo this to me

zone 4 great chaos -> antler 😭

[tranquil wren]

time to lock in

[cosmic pelican]

this was such a good run too :/ instant lose

[civic sedge]

i'm using the witch's staff, i spam attack and dash repeatedly trying to prove that it's definitely extending the dash cooldown

[quartz hawk]

why is the Olympus theme in this game so goooooddddd I can't stop listening to it it's the only ost music I keep on repeat

[lyric zenith]

Which aspect?

[mystic rune]

i really like when artemis stops by i always take like 2-3 min to sing with her and just sit and enjoy

[civic sedge]

the default one, can't remember the name

[lyric zenith]

The default on every weapon is Mel, lmao.

[tepid rune]

Default is always just ‘Aspect of Melinoe’ for any weapon

[civic sedge]

lol

back to the point, attacks extend the dash cooldown, at least i'm one of those who noticed it

[wispy storm]

can't for the life of me get the pick up all eris junk at once incantation to appear

[cosmic pelican]

yeh me either, no idea what causes it to trigger

[mystic rune]

eris is such an easy fight for me now, but it really really really erks me when she put's herself right up against a wall/water, and you can't get behind her. and it seems to happen a lot to me 🙁

[lyric zenith]

No, this still isn't true. The timing is nearly identical. If there is any extension at all, it's by 0.05s

[civic sedge]

I'm good at calculating rhythms and short time intervals, i can assure you it's definitely an extension, it could be the 0.05s that you're talking about

[lyric zenith]

If you're spamming attack, it seems more likely you're animation locking yourself

[nocturne grove]

Wow I just took like 350 damage to typhon and just ignored it cuz of high health and the arcana

Aspect of moros is disgusting for olympus cuz if you have enough hp you can just sit at his face and spam attacks with it and youll end up winning the trade

[civic sedge]

That's the problem I've been talking about this whole time, I'm using auto fire for it

[nova oar]

What are we talking about?

[lyric zenith]

That's not related to dash cooldown, then.

[civic sedge]

The dash trail takes longer to vanish after attacks, it is a cooldown extension

[nova oar]

Do you have any proof of this?

[civic sedge]

Yes, but I can't send it

[lyric zenith]

And that doesn't appear to be true when looking at footage

[granite wigeon]

bruh what i brought the bones but od didnt show up bruh

am i supposed to do multiple runs bruh

[civic sedge]

My dash feels slower while I'm attacking, what else do you want me to say?

[lyric zenith]

This has nothing at all to do w/ CD

It doesn't matter whether it's off CD or not if you're animation locked.

[mystic rune]

so when i got the last weapon || the black coat|| i thought it was soo cool, and it's fun, but like im doing a run with it now, and dispite being fun to play with it does very very low dmg, I have base aspect to lvl 5, but like still 0 dmg, is there a good aspect for this thing?

[civic sedge]

If I only were allowed to send videos here..
Whatever

[nova oar]

Link it with imgur

[lyric zenith]

Can you at least acknowledge you're being inconsitent? You've said both that you are looking at the trail return and that you're basing off of feel, so which one are you actually using as a metric?

[nova oar]

Either you're imagining it, you're animation locked, or you're going crazy, cause nothing changes dash cooldown outside of boons

My guy it's Greek mythology

Idk if this is bait or not but there is no religion involved with this game

[mystic rune]

go back to back to politics chat guys... i'm in that server too, but this is not the place for trolling and race baiting....

[mystic rune]

they are 100% baiting,

[lucid shadow]

don't feed trolls

[civic sedge]

It could be the animation locking, but do I see the dash trail taking longer to vanish rather than the game straight up not letting me dash when I want to.
I'm really sorry if I'm driving you crazy, I just wanted to get confirmation about this.

[wispy tulip]

wsp guys

[nova oar]

Dm me and send me the video then i'll have a look

[wispy tulip]

???????????????????????????????????? i just said wsp

[nova oar]

Gods as in beings with lots of power, it's not a religious thing at all, at least not in the context of this game, it's all thematic

I'm a tranny too, y'all don't need to bring this kinda thing in here

[wispy tulip]

transgender muslim communist gotta be the craziest setup of all time like how do u even end up with that

[lucid shadow]

don't interact with trolls

[nova oar]

Literally who cares tho, we're just here to play the game

[wispy tulip]

genuinely dawg ur like a shiny pokemon

[wispy tulip]

i got a tarot build im not very sure of Id send it here but I cant send photos in chat

[nova oar]

Upload on imgure and paste the link here or dm me and i'll help u

[crude minnow]

narcissus spoiler || He gave me no items this time? does that happen often ||

[wispy tulip]

https://imgur.com/a/VtFBkGs

is this a good build or nah

fyi im gonna max everything lmao obviously

[crude minnow]

I like str over DD

[wispy tulip]

str? dd?

[crude minnow]

strength over death defiance

[nova oar]

Yeah the build is good, I would take wayward son over sorceress but if you don't need the healing that's fine, I would take strength over death unless you're playing with scars

[mystic rune]

DD is death defile and strength generally refers to doing more dmg ( i think?)

[wispy tulip]

i dont really feel comfortable taking strenght even tho I usually only use like 1 or 2 (which toula already gives me)

[nova oar]

Strength is 40% damage resistance and 20% damage

[wispy tulip]

its like when I take str i feel kinda stressed all the time and it hinders how Iplay

[crude minnow]

I was the same in early access, then once i went Strength I never went back

[wispy tulip]

I run circe rn so sorceress gives me more value

I do sometimes switch them around tho

[wispy tulip]

maybe Ill try it tomorrow (its 2 am I cant rn)

[nova oar]

You shouldn't be using omegas on circe anyway

[wispy tulip]

why not?

[nova oar]

No point

[wispy tulip]

u think? isnt it more damage tho?

[visual karma]

how many hearts do i have to have with || Moros in order to trigger the conversation of Three Fates? (completing prophecy Melinoe Seek us) ||

[nova oar]

Not really

[wispy tulip]

oh

[nova oar]

It's faster and safer to just drop the cast and go ham/run away than stand around charging omega cast

You can go for an omega cast build but I wouldn't really recommend it

[wispy tulip]

i like going for omega cast builds lmao

[mystic rune]

im still trying to figure out how to make black coat good lol

[wispy tulip]

i might be stupid for asking this but what does the normal cast do (not omega)

[wispy tulip]

its good already

[nova oar]

Which aspect

[mystic rune]

im running base aspect + 5 but if i was to unlock as aspect, which do u recommend?

[nova oar]

Normal cast slows down enemies, thats it, only the omega does damage (without boons)

[wispy tulip]

kk ty

[nova oar]

The hidden one is best, but the best normal one is definitely nyx, but if you want to play base, you want to be playing zeus/pos/hestia

Hera works well, you can get some really good kings ransom builds on coat

[wispy tulip]

wait there are hidden aspects?

[nova oar]

Yes, one for each weapon

[wispy tulip]

man Ive had this game since early access i genuinely need to play more

i feel like using toula is so much better when playing with circe

[nova oar]

Toula and raki are best

Frinos is also decent

[wispy tulip]

theres actually a turkish (or generally in the balkans) alcoholic drink called Rakı

[nova oar]

Interesting, my best circe run was also played with frinos, I managed to no hit vor cerb, it's such a good aspect

[plucky dew]

i had no success with cast builds even tho theyre a ton of fun

[nova oar]

Maybe you're building them wrong?

[wispy tulip]

playing with circe just feels like easy mode lol, i also no hit cerb (idk what vor is i js no hit the normal cerby) and its so fun too
i was doing an omega cast build tho

[tribal yew]

Hey guys. What did Skelly said for you when you unlocked ||Hel|| aspect? I'm my game he said " ||Hel?|| I think that's somewhere North||

[pallid cradle]

I'd say Frinos clears Toula. The only familiars I don't really use anymore are Hecuba or Gale (haven't been doing mega high fear or high magick burn builds)

[nova oar]

Vor (Vow of Rivals) is a modifier that makes all the bosses harder

[wispy tulip]

ohhh

[nova oar]

Toula is better for landing the second cast on enemies when you activate her i just take frinos for the extra health at high fear

[wispy tulip]

i rarely play with fear

[nova oar]

Ah ok I won't spoil the fight for you then

[pallid cradle]

I play Raki for Circe. He's an aggressive little bird

[wispy tulip]

aha its ok

[pallid cradle]

The only fight where Raki seems to consistently screw me over is Typhon. He hates attacking Typhon.

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/vClBbRW

[wispy tulip]

i like to play with toula because it feels like a gauranteed hit on both that string and the cast

[wispy tulip]

u just melted him 😭

[nova oar]

Yeah toula is also good for leash cause she doesn't move until you want her to

[pallid cradle]

Someone should do a leash only Circe run.

[nova oar]

Runs like that is why I say circe doesn't need omegas

[wispy tulip]

even if she is, the leash gets damage cuz she attacks enemies

also she gives DD which we love

[plucky dew]

probably, i wanted the ranged cast boons for them and just inted if i didnt get them

[nova oar]

What aspect are you playing, you never really need ranged cast boons